Thursday, October 18, 2007

October 18, 2007

Session Start: Thu Oct 18 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Thu Oct 18 00:00:00 2007

[05:04] {bruce} gm all
[05:40] {cosmo} LOGI should hold 33.50
[05:40] {cosmo} ... or its nap time
[05:41] {Threei} any time is nap time
[05:41] {Threei} morning :)
[05:41] {cosmo} yes... even in the morning
[05:41] {Threei} especially in the morning
[05:42] {Threei} but, you realize if you said evening or afternoon I'd say the same
[05:42] {cosmo} its a 24 hour world these days
[05:43] {bruce} ebay gave up all its post market frenzy gains
[05:43] {cosmo} 24 hours of morning... somewhere...
[05:43] {Threei} yeah, what's up EBAY
[05:43] {Threei} contradicting upgrades/downgrades
[05:44] {Threei} 3 upgrades including GS, 2 downgrades
[05:44] {bruce} kind of looks like it - didn't even hold closing price
[05:45] {Threei} GOAM prints near yeste high
[05:47] {bruce} you think logi is a long for day cosmo?
[05:48] {cosmo} hmmm .... long zzzz, maybe
[05:48] {bruce} k
[05:49] {bruce} vad - have you considered doing more all - day trades?
[05:49] {cosmo} i'll sleep on it, bruce
[05:49] {bruce} target trades with a high probability of move in one direction
[05:49] {bruce} then buy small on open and hold for day
[05:50] {cosmo} a day is a long time
[05:50] {bruce} too long you think?
[05:50] {Threei} I need to see a reason for putting such trade on
[05:50] {bruce} SOME STOCKS TREND ALL DAY
[05:50] {Threei} some do, some don't,
[05:50] {Threei} question is
[05:50] {bruce} I have trouble identifying them though
[05:50] {Threei} as stock moves, read changes, right?
[05:51] {bruce} yes
[05:51] {Threei} so, how can you assign the target in time terms instead of character of the move terms?
[05:51] {Threei} I mean, you decide this one is all day hold,
[05:51] {bruce} don't know - just thought there might be setups that identify strong trend potential
[05:52] {Threei} then you see parabolic move, verticla explosion obviously setting a stage for euphoria-selloff cycle
[05:52] {dptl} good morning all
[05:52] {Threei} will you continue holding because you decided it's a day hold
[05:52] {Threei} or will you react on the character of the move?
[05:52] {Threei} dp :)
[05:52] {bruce} hi dp
[05:53] {bruce} I thought maybe day patterns could identify potential day trenders
[05:53] {Threei} it's just a matter of time frame in which you read the charts
[05:53] {bruce} but I think I hear you sayingmost moves are too erratic during a day for that
[05:54] {Threei} you can go ahead and identify trends in intraday time frame, or daily, or monthly
[05:54] {bruce} better to just grab moves while they are moving in one direction and get out
[05:54] {Threei} this is what I do
[05:54] {Threei} in order to do what you say I would need to change EVERYTHING
[05:54] {Threei} whole approach to trading
[05:55] {cosmo} use fundamentals?
[05:55] {Threei} mine has shaped up under the influence of zillion factors
[05:55] {Threei} risk tolerance most of all
[05:55] {Threei} the longer your exposure to the market is the bigger your risk
[05:56] {Threei} method of reading I apply looks at what's happening in fron of your eyes and governs your reaction
[05:56] {Threei} thus picking up the easiest money
[05:56] {Threei} and getting out before weather changes
[05:57] {Threei} of course now and then I identify longer time frame trends,
[05:57] {cosmo} NKTR
[05:58] {Threei} as in recent example with rally call around 09/12
[05:58] {Threei} but that is to help find the right trades
[05:58] {Threei} in my time frame
[05:58] {Threei} rather than trade that time ferame
[05:58] {magoo} morn
[05:58] {Threei} magoo :)
[05:59] {bruce} hey magoo
[06:00] {bruce} thanks vad - just exploring diferent ways to trade profitably
[06:00] {esemde} good morning all....
[06:00] {Threei} ese :)
[06:00] {Threei} ese, look your e-mail please
[06:00] {esemde} got your email yesterday Vad
[06:00] {bruce} still learning your strategy - not easy money for me
[06:00] {Threei} cool, let me know
[06:00] {bruce} howdy ese
[06:00] {esemde} bruce
[06:01] {cosmo} NKTR: Nektar stock drops after Pfizer pulls plug on drug
[06:01] {Threei} as you observe the trades I call bruce... try to identfy the decision factors, ask questions
[06:01] {Threei} it's really nothing complicated
[06:01] {bruce} working on it vad
[06:01] {bruce} thanks
[06:01] {esemde} will do...... have not been much of a participant this week everyone...big tech problems
[06:02] {bruce} sorry to ask so many questions
[06:02] {bruce} getting there though I think
[06:02] {Threei} don't be sorry... ask'em
[06:02] {Threei} ese, other problems aside of this scanner one?
[06:05] {Threei} bruce... for longer time frame trades watch roman, he does a lot of those,
[06:05] {esemde} yes....the trading vehicle keeps shutting down...
[06:05] {Threei} but my thinking is, you are looking for alternative before mastering one
[06:05] {Threei} that's not focused approach
[06:06] {Threei} learn one, expand your horizons after if there is a need/want
[06:06] {esemde} it could be the way my computor is configed....but everthing else works
[06:06] {Threei} hmm ese... sounds like this scanner issue just a symptom of bigger one then
[06:07] {bruce} thanx vad
[06:07] {esemde} funny thing is....i restored my computor to a previous state and the old trading vehicle worked..
[06:08] {Threei} so their upgraded version is flawed looks like
[06:08] {esemde} this new one that they have doesn't....hmmmmmis it ...or is it not my computor then....hmmmm
[06:08] {Threei} sounds like that tome
[06:08] {cosmo} ese: i had a support tech tell me once this problem could be spiritual ...fwiw
[06:09] {esemde} spiritual......nice....all in my mind......as i watch profitable trades go by...FOR REAL
[06:10] {cosmo} i can emphasize
[06:10] {Threei} try what our support suggested ese... to narrow down the problem
[06:11] {Threei} empathize cos?
[06:11] {cosmo} hmm
[06:12] {cosmo} spelling? ....that's raven's job i thot
[06:13] {Threei} yes, I am baiting him
[06:13] {magoo} obsevation here....yhoo popped after earnings 3 points....gave all back and some next morn
[06:14] {magoo} ebay pops 3 pts...gave all back next morn
[06:14] {magoo} are u with me?
[06:14] {bruce} lol - yes - typed that 30 mins ago mags
[06:14] {Threei} yes but we are deweply distrubed by this
[06:15] {dino} gm all
[06:15] {magoo} last qtr...bidu poped 30 pts..i shorted it next morn and got it all back
[06:15] {magoo} hhhhmmmm
[06:15] {Threei} dino :)
[06:15] {bruce} hi dino
[06:15] {magoo} mkt xtended...the tone is becoming a pop and drop
[06:16] {bruce} thats what id did yesterday for mostpart - quick moves
[06:16] {markweb} gm all
[06:16] {bruce} lulu was an exception - kept rising
[06:16] {bruce} hey mark
[06:16] {Threei} mark :)
[06:17] {Raven} {-------- overloaded with bad grammer and misspelled words ... arghhh ... GM
[06:17] {Threei} sorry R
[06:17] {cosmo} me too
[06:17] {Threei} but we can't help it
[06:17] {cosmo} i try
[06:18] {Raven} sigh
[06:21] {bruce} hi raven
[06:21] {Raven} hey bruce
[06:21] {bruce} maybe add a spell ceck vad
[06:21] {bruce} lol
[06:21] {bruce} check
[06:22] {Threei} why
[06:22] {Threei} to kill all the fun?
[06:22] {Threei} and to make Raven's life boring?
[06:23] {Threei} magoo with good spelling - won't it feel very unnatural?
[06:23] {Raven} oh sigh ... too much blabber in here ... results in too many errors
[06:23] {magoo} d;odgjk;dj
[06:23] {Raven} magoo is so bad I sometimes use "ignore"
[06:24] {magoo} aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh come on????
[06:24] {Raven} oh ... hi ma a gog gogooooooo
[06:24] {bruce} are you choking raven
[06:24] {bruce} ?
[06:24] {Raven} at times
[06:24] {bruce} someone call a paramedic
[06:24] {cosmo} LOGI
[06:25] {cosmo} looks testy
[06:25] {Threei} [09:24] {magoo} d;odgjk;dj {--- that's magoo we know and appreciate
[06:26] {magoo} thats russian vad, what i say to enlighten roiom
[06:27] {Raven} roiom
[06:27] {dino} bruce good questions this a.m., don't be afraid to ask.
[06:27] {Raven} moior
[06:28] {bruce} you can offer an english grammer add -on subscription feature vad
[06:29] {Threei} and spiritual consulting for computer problems?
[06:29] {bruce} good idea
[06:30] {bruce} maybe add a computer psychic too
[06:30] {cosmo} :)
[06:30] {bruce} ebay short?
[06:31] {Threei} let it establish something
[06:31] {ramvfin2003} NVDA?
[06:31] {dino} just need an easy button bruce
[06:31] {ramvfin2003} wife works for staples corp...can get u a ton of easy buttons..lol
[06:31] {bruce} me too dino
[06:32] {bruce} thats another add- on
[06:35] {Threei} JNPR short half lot .90 breakdown
[06:36] {Threei} over 37.15 invalidated
[06:36] {Threei} see GEOI?
[06:37] {bruce} bac short?
[06:37] {magoo} vad..look at volume
[06:37] {magoo} that was roman entirely
[06:37] {Threei} lol
[06:38] {Threei} BAC, I would short 48 break
[06:39] {Threei} JNPR is two-sided setup
[06:39] {Threei} breakout is long
[06:39] {ramvfin2003} break of .14 is long on JNPR vad?
[06:39] {Threei} yes
[06:39] {Threei} half lot
[06:40] {dino} avct
[06:40] {Threei} .99 stop JNPR
[06:43] {bruce} jnpr .17 l
[06:43] {esemde} PLCM.....
[06:45] {magoo} LULU continues vad
[06:45] {bruce} missed bac entry
[06:45] {Threei} and looks breaky
[06:45] {magoo} OY
[06:46] {Threei} pullback into 53 would be best to look for entry mags
[06:46] {Threei} GOAM on the move
[06:46] {Threei} Roman was right
[06:46] {bruce} logi took off
[06:48] {Threei} BAC CFO: CDO PIPELINE 'SLIGHTLY MORE' THAN $1B - CONF CALL
[06:49] {dino} need a top on it
[06:50] {bruce} stopped jnpr
[06:50] {Threei} yup
[06:50] {ramvfin2003} topped JNPR
[06:51] {bruce} next
[06:51] {magoo} stoped jnpr a
[06:52] {bruce} wm short?
[06:52] {Threei} CTDC
[06:52] {dino} fonr hl s .55, risky
[06:53] {dino} bstop .82
[06:53] {Threei} 30 breakdown, but this is scary one bruce
[06:53] {Threei} volatile
[06:53] {bruce} see that - big stop - going to pass
[06:54] {dino} hl l vrtx .80, stop .46
[06:55] {dino} forn stopped slips -.35
[06:55] {ramvfin2003} AVCI?
[06:56] {Threei} BRCM half lot aggressive short with stop just above 42
[06:56] {dino} stopped vrtx -.33
[06:56] {Threei} first sign of weakness from here BRCM
[06:57] {Threei} no read on AVCI, wierd one
[06:57] {Threei} ADBE
[06:57] {Threei} .33 long
[06:58] {Threei} .19 stop
[06:58] {ramvfin2003} in .33
[06:59] {Threei} BRCM invaliadted over 42
[07:00] {Threei} SEPT LEADING INDICATORS: 0.3% V 0.3%E
[07:00] {Threei} IRAQ STOPPING OIL DUE TO FULL STORAGE TANKS
[07:01] {cosmo} ... that figures
[07:02] {Threei} anyone got BRCM?
[07:02] {magoo} i in
[07:02] {magoo} .93
[07:03] {bruce} missed entry
[07:03] {bruce} tried .93
[07:05] {Threei} cover half BRCM
[07:06] {Threei} stop to .85
[07:08] {ramvfin2003} VRTX?
[07:10] {Threei} NVDA .75 short, .86 stop
[07:11] {cosmo} adbe
[07:11] {Threei} ADBE is nice candidate for trend but NQ action keeps it down
[07:12] {cosmo} adbe patiently waits for reversal
[07:14] {dino} wrnc hl l .02
[07:15] {dino} avct l hl .35
[07:17] {dino} good spot vrtx ram
[07:17] {ramvfin2003} RIO?
[07:17] {Threei} what's with PRGN
[07:18] {bruce} was stop 28.45 avct dino?
[07:18] {dino} wierd moves today
[07:19] {dino} getting rinsed, if following, i'm widening careful
[07:19] {bruce} just curious _ didn't take it - support looke3d too far away
[07:20] {dino} bruce, i'm long l=long
[07:20] {dino} should've sdhorted, lol
[07:20] {bruce} yup
[07:21] {Threei} INFY
[07:21] {bruce} how would you set stop for avct long trade?
[07:21] {Threei} INDIAN FIN MIN SAYS NO INTENTION OF IMPOSING CAPITAL CONTROLS ON CAPITAL FLOWS
[07:21] {dino} wide, lol, it's whipping, go smaller size and wider stop, can't use the hard as it will rinse
[07:22] {bruce} k
[07:22] {bruce} thought it would need to be pretty big
[07:22] {dino} like pulp
[07:22] {bruce} so you watch price action and make judgement call when in?
[07:23] {dino} y
[07:23] {dino} but don't let it kill you
[07:23] {bruce} k
[07:24] {cosmo} .....so, is India 'lese faire'?
[07:25] {dino} indians in the series i believe
[07:25] {bruce} adbe long?
[07:26] {Threei} it's a slowly trending one... tough read for me
[07:26] {bruce} k - passing then
[07:26] {Threei} one of those that can climb slowly whole day
[07:26] {Threei} but finding entries is tough on them
[07:27] {cosmo} but its a good investment
[07:27] {bruce} lol cosmo
[07:28] {bruce} thats what brokers say when you get rinsed
[07:28] {Threei} PRGN, half lot long on .50 break
[07:28] {bruce} next line is double up
[07:28] {Threei} stop under .30
[07:28] {Threei} can go to 27 easily
[07:28] {magoo} in prgn
[07:29] {dino} cramer pick last night prgn
[07:30] {Threei} EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: +39 BCF VS. + 55 TO +60 BCF EXPECTED RANGE
[07:31] {Threei} come on cramerites, buy it
[07:31] {magoo} we need him to mentiobn it today
[07:33] {bruce} prgn in .43
[07:34] {Threei} NQ just can't make up its mind today
[07:35] {dino} vrtx interesting now
[07:36] {dino} bruce avct stop tto .19
[07:36] {dino} hard
[07:36] {magoo} nvda valid??
[07:37] {bruce} stopped
[07:37] {dino} risky, hl l vrtx .60
[07:37] {Threei} backing off for now, nothing workas
[07:38] {dino} avct stop to .75
[07:39] {bruce} thanks dino
[07:39] {ramvfin2003} NTES?
[07:39] {dino} out avct .79, +.44
[07:40] {dino} np, gj
[07:40] {dino} pullback to .25ish imo
[07:40] {bruce} your brcm trade worked vad
[07:41] {magoo} LULU frenzuy
[07:41] {dino} stopped vrtx -.44
[07:41] {dino} done w/it
[07:41] {bruce} was just going to say - lulu testing agin
[07:42] {magoo} why don't u?;lol
[07:42] {bruce} just did
[07:42] {dino} wrnc not moving, stop to .91
[07:43] {dino} screw it, to flat
[07:45] {Threei} [09:46] {Threei} pullback into 53 would be best to look for entry mags
[07:45] {Threei} see where it bounced from?
[07:45] {magoo} scalped twice vad
[07:45] {magoo} second was my alert of frenzy @ 55..out now .91
[07:45] {Threei} to the frikking cent
[07:46] {magoo} feels like 57 today
[07:46] {magoo} but not easy
[07:47] {magoo} oops..i mean 58 he he
[07:47] {bruce} going to buy 10 k lulu and hold for day
[07:47] {bruce} oops
[07:47] {bruce} thats a trout for sure
[07:47] {dino} bidu ramp, watch chinas
[07:47] {Threei} BIDU... mama mia
[07:47] {Threei} can this pulp move
[07:48] {bruce} I HATE bidu
[07:48] {magoo} i think LULU proportionately moves better
[07:48] {dino} pulp moves baby
[07:49] {dino} lulu tutu, iran iraq whatever
[07:49] {magoo} pulp can move baby!!!!!!!!
[07:49] {bruce} seed short?
[07:49] {Threei} 55 is next support level to watch for LULU entry
[07:50] {Threei} by daily chart, rather a place top look for bounce bruce
[07:50] {Threei} filled the gap, volume dried up
[07:51] {magoo} 57 before 55 imho
[07:51] {magoo} in .99
[07:52] {Threei} quite possibly
[07:52] {Threei} this one works on both pullbacks and breaks, and you never know which one this particular time, lol
[07:52] {ramvfin2003} VRTX vad?
[07:53] {magoo} [10:52] {magoo} 57 before 55 imho
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {magoo} in .99
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {Threei} quite possibly
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {Threei} this one work
[07:53] {dino} wrnc stopped +.01 whoopie
[07:53] {magoo} OUT
[07:53] {magoo} 57
[07:53] {ramvfin2003} nice mags
[07:53] {markweb} CTSH dino?
[07:53] {Threei} looks like bounce time ram
[07:53] {magoo} [10:48] {magoo} oops..i mean 58 he he
[07:53] {dino} avct hl l .16, whippy
[07:53] {ramvfin2003} where would u enter?
[07:54] {dino} i like it ram
[07:54] {dino} l hl .75
[07:54] {Threei} ALTI?
[07:56] {dino} man that vrtx rinsed me again
[07:59] {magoo} 55 might be now vad
[08:05] {dino} star
[08:05] {magoo} someone kick vad..i have a question
[08:06] {Threei} so ask... why kicking
[08:06] {magoo} keep kickin..he'll wake up
[08:06] {magoo} see
[08:07] {magoo} u got any vodka at the house?
[08:07] {Threei} usually, some
[08:07] {Threei} why, you ran out of?
[08:07] {Threei} see ADBE?
[08:07] {magoo} i like PRGN to 27, any thoughts
[08:07] {Threei} makes new highs but can you play it?
[08:07] {Threei} pullbacks are unreadable
[08:08] {Threei} breakouts don't work and no way to read the entry on pullback
[08:09] {Threei} tough one mags... it had a great chance when we tried it earlier, and failed
[08:09] {magoo} i think if takes 65 we gonna get it
[08:09] {magoo} .65
[08:09] {magoo} aggressive here hl
[08:10] {Threei} stop under .20?
[08:10] {magoo} i will add at .61 and exit ,93
[08:11] {magoo} .14 cause its a half
[08:11] {magoo} no damage
[08:11] {Threei} Raven... any cold war stocks?
[08:11] {magoo} aggressive entry here LULU ...58 comith
[08:11] {Threei} http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4wuPvoZL.NI&refer=home
[08:11] {Threei} get ready for cold war, round 2
[08:12] {magoo} does that mean u moving back to moscow vad??
[08:12] {Threei} let me think about it
[08:12] {Threei} OK, I thought about it
[08:12] {Threei} no
[08:13] {magoo} russian women are very VERY hot
[08:13] {bruce} thats only cause its so damn cold there mags
[08:14] {bruce} in moscow you can cosy up to a ridge for warmth
[08:14] {bruce} fridge
[08:14] {Threei} lol... and polar bears on the streets, right?
[08:14] {bruce} no
[08:14] {bruce} penquins isn't it?
[08:15] {Threei} wrong hemisphere
[08:15] {bruce} we've got the polar bears
[08:15] {bruce} seen it in the beer commercials
[08:15] {bruce} my hemispheres are working toeday
[08:15] {magoo} in more
[08:15] {bruce} arent
[08:16] {bruce} no pressure vad - just find us a nice low risk trade
[08:17] {Threei} not much luck so far today bruce
[08:17] {Threei} maybe early... maybe simply not my day
[08:17] {ramvfin2003} bad day for me :(
[08:17] {bruce} drat
[08:17] {Threei} look at NQ 1 min
[08:18] {Threei} see how irrational and patternless it is?
[08:18] {bruce} looks like a pretty whippy flat day to me
[08:18] {Threei} so, you have market followers and you have momo movers,
[08:18] {Threei} market followers keep shaking you out on a day like this
[08:18] {Threei} which is exactly what they did
[08:19] {Threei} and there are no momo plays so far
[08:19] {bruce} yup - good day to go light
[08:19] {bruce} I'll stop for day if next trade is another stop
[08:19] {dino} star hl s .15
[08:20] {Threei} of course thereare always things like PRGN, BIDU or LULU
[08:20] {magoo} not getting any help from mkt on my PRGN trade vad
[08:20] {Threei} but they are anything but low risk
[08:20] {bruce} I get routinely killed overtrading days like this - trying to get bqack to flat
[08:20] {Threei} that's common mistake bruce
[08:20] {Threei} just accept that some days are not good,
[08:20] {Threei} keep your loss small,
[08:20] {Threei} observe and wait for nice clean mover to appear
[08:21] {dino} ctsh tighten stop to .59
[08:21] {bruce} got you - thats the lan
[08:21] {Threei} and if nothing like that surfaces, simply stay inactive and come back tomorrow
[08:21] {Threei} can't win every day
[08:21] {bruce} exactly
[08:21] {Threei} take it as normal course of things
[08:21] {magoo} stopped LULU..
[08:21] {Threei} look at NQ:
[08:22] {dino} take breaks bruce, walk away for 30 mins.
[08:22] {Threei} moved up on the open,
[08:22] {bruce} eric short?
[08:22] {Threei} consolidated a little,
[08:22] {Threei} failed to break out, dropped, made new low,
[08:22] {dino} not watching eric got me yesterday
[08:22] {Threei} little bounce, new low,
[08:22] {Threei} new bounce takes it all the way to the high, believe it or now
[08:23] {Threei} little pullback, new high
[08:23] {Threei} and what do you know, drop all the way to the low
[08:23] {Threei} day when market tells you "read this!"
[08:24] {bruce} adbe all over again
[08:25] {dino} ok, i know i shouldn't, but hl l vrtx off of .75
[08:28] {bruce} nice move for you dino
[08:29] {markweb} dino! dino! dino!
[08:31] {dino} lol
[08:32] {markweb} sorry for CTSH sloooow:(
[08:33] {magoo} CTDC trying....not in'
[08:33] {magoo} nasty
[08:34] {dino} stop to .91
[08:34] {dino} ctsh is up, no stop hit, no worries bro
[08:35] {markweb} ctsh sold @41.02
[08:37] {Threei} CTDC
[08:37] {dino} out vrtx .30, +.55
[08:37] {ramvfin2003} long on .70 break vad?
[08:37] {markweb} gj
[08:37] {Threei} wow... no way ram
[08:38] {ramvfin2003} k just askin...
[08:38] {Threei} you get in momo movers when they start, not after spike
[08:38] {bruce} wtg dino
[08:38] {dino} ty
[08:39] {esemde} have agreat day everyone...
[08:39] {ramvfin2003} PNC long?
[08:40] {Threei} ese, don't forget to let me know how it goes with scanner
[08:41] {Threei} PNC? 1 dollar down in two bars?
[08:42] {dino} later ese
[08:44] {bruce} see you ese
[08:47] {bruce} vrtx short now dino?
[08:50] {dino} dk,
[08:51] {dino} watch market imo, seems to me its overreacting to a competitors drug thats about 2 years away, but who knows
[08:52] {dino} avct stop to .74
[08:55] {dino} star bstop to .01
[08:55] {ramvfin2003} CTEL moving
[08:57] {dino} ctsh stop to .89
[08:57] {dino} stopped avct -.41
[09:00] {dino} out star slippage +.06
[09:00] {dino} that sucked
[09:00] {dino} out ctsh .90, +.15
[09:01] {dino} brb
[09:04] {Threei} LDK
[09:04] {Threei} OTHER EXECS QUESTIONED CO.'S INVENTORY QUALITY - WSJ
[09:05] {magoo} no avail now
[09:05] {Threei} ione day thing will open at $5
[09:06] {dino} wait for the halt
[09:09] {Threei} this stock has scam written all over it
[09:09] {dino} rrst
[09:09] {dino} thin
[09:10] {ramvfin2003} SDTH?
[09:10] {Threei} risky scalp on momo if breaks
[09:11] {dino} one more spike imo
[09:11] {magoo} LULU more intriguing
[09:11] {dino} can't borrow at cyber
[09:12] {dino} sdth that is
[09:14] {magoo} PRGN stooped f@cker
[09:17] {Threei} 8.33 is now long trigger for SDTH if stays above .20
[09:18] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:18] {ramvfin2003} in .33
[09:19] {magoo} in
[09:19] {ramvfin2003} target VAD?
[09:20] {magoo} i waiting .48
[09:20] {Threei} either scalp closer to .50, or take half and see if it stages next leg
[09:20] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:21] {dino} ipsu
[09:21] {dino} thin
[09:22] {magoo} OUYT TRY vad
[09:23] {Threei} :)
[09:23] {magoo} sheesh..typing
[09:23] {magoo} raven luv that 1
[09:23] {magoo} OUT TY VAD
[09:23] {Threei} that's how I read it
[09:23] {Threei} with years of practice I can understand magooish
[09:23] {dino} magoo ebonics
[09:24] {Threei} CTEL
[09:24] {Threei} 8.50 break, scary as
[09:24] {Threei} as
[09:24] {Threei} use your imagination
[09:25] {magoo} follow magoo..ill lead u thru hell and back
[09:25] {Threei} lol
[09:29] {markweb} seed
[09:29] {markweb} sey
[09:29] {markweb} sry:)
[09:29] {Threei} GILD halt
[09:34] {magoo} news vads?
[09:34] {Threei} on what?
[09:34] {magoo} [12:30] {Threei} GILD halt
[09:34] {Threei} TRADING HALTED; NEWS PENDING- note: earnings report is scheduled for after the close
[09:35] {dino} positive drug opinion eu
[09:38] {Threei} new high ADBE...
[09:38] {Threei} frustrating stock
[09:39] {magoo} but u never called it right?
[09:39] {Threei} not after first stop
[09:40] {magoo} ram..u ok on SDTH?
[09:40] {dino} wrnc l hl .50, stop .19
[09:41] {ramvfin2003} out .48
[09:41] {magoo} keep an eye on LULU...really bothers magoo
[09:41] {magoo} gj
[09:41] {magoo} ram
[09:42] {Threei} CTEL relatively low risk entry here
[09:42] {dino} gj ram, i ditched i took it off screen as no short, hate when only allowed one way to play
[09:42] {magoo} u going in?
[09:42] {Threei} with 7.90 stop
[09:42] {magoo} what u get?
[09:42] {Threei} ,08
[09:43] {magoo} PRGN coiling
[09:43] {magoo} with naz help, gonna gp imho
[09:43] {ramvfin2003} in CTEL
[09:45] {Threei} SDTH new highs
[09:46] {magoo} LULU
[09:46] {ramvfin2003} target on CTEL vad?
[09:46] {Threei} if breaks .60, I'd say somewhere around .75
[09:49] {bruce} ctel in
[09:51] {magoo} in LULU
[09:51] {magoo} 56
[09:56] {ramvfin2003} CTEL needs a shot of vodka..lol
[09:57] {bruce} ctel needs adrenaline
[09:57] {bruce} and maybe large russian boot
[09:57] {dino} so do i
[09:57] {dino} the vodka that is
[09:58] {bruce} go you b@asta@d
[09:58] {bruce} learned that spelling from dino
[09:58] {ramvfin2003} lol
[09:59] {bruce} if ctel doesn't go I will never buy another chinese phone ag@in
[10:00] {Threei} you will have to live without phone then
[10:00] {bruce} I can go back to cans vad
[10:00] {bruce} you know - with string betwen them
[10:01] {Threei} I guess... but where do you think cans and strings are made?
[10:01] {bruce} lol
[10:01] {bruce} da@m
[10:01] {ramvfin2003} good point vad
[10:02] {bruce} sc@ewed
[10:02] {Threei} FED'S PLOSSER: PREFERS TO USE FORWARD LOOKING ECONOMIC MODELS
[10:02] {Threei} oh wow
[10:02] {Threei} wiser and wiser
[10:02] {magoo} as opposed to what/ lol
[10:02] {Threei} here we sit trying to use backward looking ones
[10:02] {bruce} is that where they spend based on 2025 earnings?
[10:03] {bruce} maybe they can borrow from nigeria
[10:04] {Threei} I am not sharing my nigerian riches
[10:04] {bruce} you can charge nigerian interst
[10:05] {bruce} 2100%
[10:05] {Threei} CTDC
[10:05] {ramvfin2003} stpped ctel
[10:05] {Threei} .70 break is scary scalp
[10:06] {magoo} big ooffer .75 vad
[10:06] {bruce} still in - we didn't get .9 yet ram
[10:07] {Threei} you know what happens to those offers when momo hits
[10:11] {bruce} you guys ever get halted in a stock you were in ?
[10:11] {dino} y
[10:11] {Threei} not pleasant experience
[10:12] {bruce} scary stuff
[10:12] {magoo} several
[10:12] {dino} tell you what else sucks, when they break trades
[10:12] {Threei} one side
[10:12] {Threei} yikes
[10:12] {magoo} that happened to me too
[10:13] {dino} last spring, had a 30 pt gain on short, three hours later they break all trades
[10:13] {bruce} geez
[10:13] {Threei} both sides of your trade dino?
[10:13] {bruce} sue the ba@ta@ds
[10:13] {Threei} or just one
[10:14] {Threei} out CTEL
[10:14] {bruce} me too
[10:14] {dino} not worth it, "they" always win
[10:14] {bruce} 3 strikes
[10:14] {bruce} I'm out forday lads
[10:15] {patience} and a lass
[10:15] {Threei} ok guys, now that bruce is out,
[10:15] {Threei} let's make real trades
[10:15] {bruce} exactly
[10:15] {dino} take care bruce
[10:15] {ramvfin2003} im with bruce bad day...need to turn it around
[10:15] {bruce} going to stay guys - just not taking any more tradews
[10:15] {bruce} going to watch you all rack up the wins now
[10:16] {dino} take care ram
[10:17] {Threei} SDTH target hit
[10:17] {Threei} [12:47] {Threei} if breaks .60, I'd say somewhere around .75
[10:17] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:17] {Threei} what?
[10:17] {Threei} one frikin winning trade and I get slkapped?
[10:18] {magoo} what? its only my first one today
[10:19] {dino} hl l vrtx .70
[10:19] {dino} stop .29
[10:24] {Threei} GILD crazy
[10:34] {magoo} go greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnn
[10:35] {ramvfin2003} vad, thoughts on RIO?
[10:35] {magoo} brazil??
[10:36] {magoo} awesome
[10:36] {dino} vrtx stopped, off my screen 1/4 on it
[10:36] {Threei} no thoughts here... break of .80 was a setup, not now
[10:38] {magoo} vad CTDC?
[10:39] {Threei} 9.75 break
[10:39] {magoo} where would u wait? .91 or .07?
[10:40] {Threei} no faintest idea
[10:40] {Threei} both are quite arbitrary
[10:42] {magoo} do u think .91 has a better shot than 07??
[10:42] {magoo} no slap for that??
[10:43] {Threei} sigh... lol
[10:48] {Threei} .51 long GILD if holding above .35
[10:50] {dino} tbsi
[10:51] {magoo} market power up comith
[10:53] {dino} asbc
[10:57] {magoo} green
[10:57] {magoo} both
[10:57] {Threei} that 1.85% works
[10:57] {magoo} fasten trading helmet..buckle up trading chair seatbelt
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} .51 on GILD vad?
[10:58] {Threei} no
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} i missed it didnt i, the first time
[10:58] {magoo} no..it invalidated'
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:59] {Threei} you didn't
[10:59] {Threei} it never triggered and lost support
[10:59] {ramvfin2003} NVDA long?
[10:59] {magoo} ram..take 200 shares of LULU ..56
[10:59] {magoo} RISKI
[11:00] {magoo} stop 55.49..$250 bux or we ride it to 57.76
[11:02] {Threei} ZVUE?
[11:02] {magoo} RISKY tho...mkt sux today
[11:04] {Threei} don't you hate it, ADBE
[11:04] {Threei} identified it as all day climber and never found the way to play it
[11:05] {magoo} wait vad...i on the phone being abused by ADBE
[11:05] {Threei} don't even think of giving it my phone number
[11:05] {bruce} thats one of those buy 100 on open and hold all day vad
[11:05] {dino} wrnc stop to .74
[11:05] {bruce} lol
[11:06] {magoo} ADBE just insulted my mama.sheesh
[11:06] {dino} thats just wrong
[11:07] {bruce} put it in dpf for them mags
[11:07] {ramvfin2003} STV long?
[11:07] {Threei} ?
[11:07] {Threei} why?
[11:07] {dino} hate to do it buys, but hard stopping bidu at 320, don't want goog earning to screw it up afterhours
[11:07] {Threei} what do you see on STV?
[11:09] {dino} out wrnc .74, +.24
[11:13] {dino} out bidu from other day +5.46
[11:13] {Threei} wtg
[11:14] {dino} not really, chickened out.
[11:14] {Threei} +5 is +5, however you slice it
[11:15] {dino} magoo only allows the day trades to count, my swings are no good (although my acct likes them)
[11:15] {magoo} does not count
[11:15] {dino} see
[11:15] {Threei} count for what? determine who is bringing beer today?
[11:15] {magoo} BINGO
[11:15] {magoo} and pizza
[11:16] {dino} me
[11:17] {Threei} HMIN
[11:17] {Threei} ummm... risky as hell
[11:17] {magoo} IN
[11:17] {magoo} OOPS...which way
[11:18] {Threei} lol
[11:18] {magoo} i just saw 2 key words...risky...hell
[11:19] {ramvfin2003} stop on HMIN?
[11:20] {Threei} I don't even know what the play is...
[11:21] {ramvfin2003} k
[11:23] {Threei} you in CTDC magoo?
[11:23] {magoo} yes
[11:24] {dino} chke drop
[11:24] {magoo} in .64
[11:24] {magoo} waiting .965
[11:25] {magoo} .95
[11:29] {dino} cavm
[11:34] {Threei} ASTI pulled back into support
[11:35] {magoo} we need mkt help
[11:35] {Threei} half lot long around here, stop is under 18.70, if breaks 19.30 can move into .50 and 20 is not out of question
[11:37] {dino} cavm hl l .08, stop .74
[11:37] {magoo} in vad
[11:39] {magoo} if it fails...u gonna smell fishy LOL
[11:43] {Threei} look at GEOI
[11:44] {magoo} u spotted it 2 days ago...u take any?
[11:44] {Threei} scalped
[11:44] {magoo} i waiting .95 CTDC
[11:44] {Threei} couldn't bear with its volatility
[11:47] {ramvfin2003} come on ASTI..papa needs a winner today
[11:48] {dino} lol
[11:48] {dino} "new shoes"
[11:49] {magoo} i gotta pee soooo bad...but everytime i leave desk market tanks
[11:49] {Threei} stay put then
[11:49] {dino} cavm stop to .09, mkt dropping
[11:49] {dino} stopped +.01
[11:49] {magoo} nice dino
[11:49] {magoo} OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[11:49] {dino} i know, but better than down
[11:50] {dino} a flash just ran down the hall
[11:51] {Threei} lol
[11:51] {ramvfin2003} ha
[11:51] {dino} ctct, thin
[11:52] {Threei} break that wall ASTI
[11:53] {dino} ram, i should close my door so i don't see thoise flashes
[11:53] *** Disconnected
Session Close: Thu Oct 18 11:53:50 2007


Session Start: Thu Oct 18 12:06:48 2007
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[12:07] {Threei} ok, that was a joke, just to make sure everyone knows:
[12:07] {Threei} [13:15] {Threei} ok guys, now that bruce is out, let's make real trades
[12:07] {magoo} i just reloaded ASTI .58
[12:07] {magoo} waiting .91
[12:07] {ramvfin2003} VFC movin
[12:08] {magoo} u still got 1/4 vad?
[12:08] {Threei} yes sir
[12:08] {Threei} I believe in 20
[12:08] {Threei} and I have ASTIZ as well
[12:08] {magoo} entry?
[12:08] {ramvfin2003} u think 10 on the z's?\
[12:09] {Threei} not sure on 10
[12:09] {Threei} depends
[12:09] {Threei} 9.16 mags
[12:09] {magoo} all out vad
[12:09] {magoo} asked patience for some
[12:09] {magoo} [15:10] {Threei} depends
[12:09] {Threei} out half 9.35
[12:09] {Threei} lol... I am slow today
[12:10] {Threei} I take severe umbrage in number of vital parts enlargement e-mails I am getting these days... someone is trying to tell me something
[12:10] {magoo} if IF LULU takes .25..we got 57
[12:11] {magoo} in
[12:11] {magoo} kicking it
[12:11] {magoo} ouch..kicked me nback
[12:13] {magoo} vad..2x4 it please
[12:13] {Threei} on LULU?
[12:13] {magoo} yep
[12:13] {bruce} good to see everyon making money now
[12:13] {Threei} no can do magoo
[12:13] {magoo} hit it correct duirection
[12:14] {Threei} with this this name, no rude behavior
[12:14] {Threei} sorry bruce
[12:14] {Threei} but you did the right thing
[12:14] {magoo} oh sh#t...
[12:14] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {Threei} hmm... good idea actually
[12:15] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {bruce} agreed vad
[12:15] {Threei} look... recovery after a nasty beginning of the day requires a lot of skill and ability to emotionally detach yourself
[12:16] {Threei} ability to trade with no emotional baggage of earlier stops
[12:16] {cosmo} there's meds too
[12:16] {Threei} so this baggage doesn't make you jump on opportunities that are not there
[12:16] {Threei} always cos
[12:16] {Threei} but I run out
[12:17] {Threei} biggest danger at that point is exactly this:
[12:17] {dino} wow cavm down move
[12:17] {Threei} you confuse wishful thinking for real opportunity
[12:17] {bruce} lol cosmo
[12:18] {bruce} I'm sticking w beer
[12:18] {Threei} desire to get revenge makes you push hard when there is nothing
[12:18] {bruce} what revenge?
[12:18] {bruce} I've already got 3 cans strung
[12:19] {Threei} made in...?
[12:19] {bruce} beans cans
[12:19] {dino} lol
[12:19] {bruce} of course
[12:21] {cosmo} i like to get my cans from Norway
[12:22] {bruce} oh?
[12:22] {bruce} tjpse the sardine ones?
[12:22] {bruce} too small for trout
[12:22] {cosmo} good metal work
[12:23] {dino} cos, you're getting old
[12:23] {bruce} Ididn't know that
[12:23] {dino} :)
[12:23] {bruce} prefer the ones without rust
[12:23] {Threei} but they weld them shut cos
[12:24] {cosmo} vikings took them all over the world and really confused modern scholars
[12:24] {dino} now thats a memory, viking beers
[12:25] {magoo} frat days dino
[12:26] {dino} indeed
[12:26] {dino} long time ago.......
[12:27] {cosmo} the 'past' is just another hoax
[12:28] {Threei} that last little piece of ASTI I have, stop is .24
[12:28] {Threei} there is no past cos?
[12:29] {cosmo} there was no past?
[12:30] {Threei} I knew it... now, can you help me expose gravity as another fraud?
[12:30] {cosmo} the universe is actually falling up
[12:31] {cosmo} in every direction
[12:31] {cosmo} there was no big bang
[12:31] {Threei} not even small one?
[12:32] {ramvfin2003} CECO why movin?
[12:32] {Threei} looking, can't see anything of significance
[12:32] {Threei} the pnly piece of news I see is ridiculous
[12:33] {Threei} SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF THE COMMISSION ON COLLEGES OF THE SOUTHERN ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS ("SACS") COMPLETED ITS SCHEDULED VISITS TO FOUR AMERICAN INTERCONTINENTAL UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES ON OCTOBER 17, 2007. - FILING- At the conclusion of the visits, the Special Committee informed AIU that its final report to SACS would contain no recommendations for further corrective action.
[12:33] {Threei} CFC
[12:33] {Threei} SEN SCHUMER URGING SEC PROBE OF CEO. TO INCLUDE CO
[12:34] {dino} ceco
[12:34] {magoo} 3 points CECO
[12:35] {dino} scor 300 filled s .80
[12:35] {dino} 390\
[12:36] {dino} cov scor .47, +.33
[12:38] {Threei} SEED, reversal from where I said it would
[12:39] {Threei} [10:50] {Threei} by daily chart, rather a place top look for bounce bruce
[12:39] {Threei} [10:51] {Threei} filled the gap, volume dried up
[12:41] {magoo} LULU finally
[12:43] {bruce} thanx vadster
[12:44] {Threei} welcome... but for what?
[12:44] {bruce} info on bounce
[12:45] {Threei} out last portuion ASTI .98
[12:45] {dino} vad the hard azz today
[12:45] {Threei} today?
[12:46] {Threei} 20 ASTI, as told
[12:46] {Threei} ASTIZ, start looking for exit ram
[12:46] {Threei} I think it's time
[12:47] {Threei} too close to eod
[12:47] {ramvfin2003} sold 1/2 @ .35 and the rest @ .05 :(
[12:47] {dino} ceco s hl .41
[12:47] {Threei} ASTI will be a matter of interest for tomorrow as well
[12:48] {dino} damn, didn't think it would get there
[12:48] {dino} strange days
[12:49] {Threei} offering balance ASTIZ 9.90
[12:49] {dino} stop is .77
[12:49] {Threei} won't let it go under .50 on me
[12:49] {magoo} out ASTI 20.30
[12:49] {magoo} from my .58
[12:49] {magoo} nuice vad
[12:49] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:50] {dino} stopped -.41 slippage
[12:52] {Threei} OK guys, I am beat
[12:52] {Threei} thank you all
[12:52] {Threei} have a good evening
[12:52] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[12:52] {magoo} u not waiting for goog vad?
[12:52] {dino} f'in ceco, rinse
[12:52] {Threei} no
[12:52] {Threei} I don't care
[12:53] {dino} rick s .87
[12:53] {bruce} night you guys
[12:58] {dptl} see ya tomorrow all.....have a good evening
[12:59] {dino} cov rick .82, +.05 ugh
[13:01] {dino} take care all, a bit light today
Session Close: Fri Oct 19 00:00:00 2007