Friday, December 14, 2007

December 14, 2007

Session Start: Fri Dec 14 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Fri Dec 14 00:00:00 2007

[05:04] {Threei} 07:07am [CSUN] Announces supply agreement with Asola
[05:04] {BillyD} morning
[05:05] {BillyD} ESLR rocking
[05:05] {Threei} morning :)
[05:05] {Threei} 12/13/07 04:13pm [ESLR] Announces a ten-year polysilicon supply agreement with Silpro
[05:05] {BillyD} yeah, they now have a supplier
[05:06] {BillyD} and stock up huge
[05:06] {hawkfan4} eslr great trader last night and this morning
[05:06] {BillyD} morning hawk
[05:06] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:06] {hawkfan4} morning billy :) vad :)
[05:07] {BillyD} u play it last night hawk
[05:08] {BillyD} just when you thought it would stop going up it would spike up .30-.4- it seemed
[05:08] {hawkfan4} yep, and this morning got it 17.20, sold 18.15. can i go back to bed?
[05:08] {BillyD} sure
[05:08] {hawkfan4} lol :)
[05:08] {Threei} nice!
[05:08] {Threei} wtg
[05:09] {BillyD} got a little here at 17.50 and sold balance at .99
[05:09] {hawkfan4} very nice
[05:10] {hawkfan4} solf good start today too, looks like a solar day
[05:10] {BillyD} was to skiddish to buy preopen, couldn't anyway
[05:11] {Threei} CSUN bid
[05:11] {BillyD} .60?
[05:12] {Threei} took selling
[05:12] {BillyD} yes
[05:12] {Threei} looks like accumulating
[05:12] {BillyD} see how eslr jumps
[05:15] {BillyD} u n CSUN Vad
[05:15] {Threei} half
[05:15] {Threei} .51
[05:21] {Threei} RIGL... lol
[05:22] {BillyD} another one that moved in .50 increments in ah
[05:22] {BillyD} vol was lower on it
[05:22] {BillyD} couldn't risk it personally
[05:25] {BillyD} your stop .30 on CSUN
[05:25] {Threei} I am not sure it's a play for stop or profit at this point
[05:25] {Threei} it's securing half position to add later on to full,
[05:26] {Threei} either on deeper pullback or on break
[05:26] {Threei} hopefully on pullback
[05:26] {Threei} as hawk said, it shapes up as possible solar day
[05:28] {BillyD} got it
[05:30] {Threei} *NOV CONSUMER PRICE INDEX M/M: 0.8% V 0.6%E; CPI EX FOOD_ENERGY M/M: 0.3% V 0.2%E; CPI NSA: V 209.800E
[05:36] {Threei} not deep enough to add second half... and not sure I trust break
[05:36] {Threei} most likely will be sitting with half still
[05:37] {BillyD} nice bids
[05:37] {BillyD} some assurance
[05:37] {Threei} will see... CSUN is tough nut to crack
[05:37] {BillyD} you are in good company
[05:43] {Threei} offering .85
[05:44] {esemde} morning all.....sooooo....... the senate passes the renewable enery bill eh....solars here we come
[05:44] {Threei} ese :)
[05:45] {Threei} if not taken at .85 and .70 gets hit will bail and look for reenter
[05:47] {Threei} c'mon, one more push
[05:47] {Threei} I mean two
[05:48] {BillyD} c'mon for Vad
[05:48] {Threei} .70 strenghtened
[05:52] {Threei} ok, out
[05:52] {Threei} +.19
[05:53] {BillyD} looked good for a min
[05:53] {BillyD} still profit
[05:53] {BillyD} watching CRDC today
[05:58] {BillyD} BMRN non sto[
[05:58] {BillyD} stop
[06:02] {dino} gm all
[06:03] {Threei} dino :)
[06:05] {BillyD} hi dino
[06:06] {dino} gm guys
[06:12] {esemde} morning dino
[06:12] {esemde} Vad do you trade pre market often...
[06:12] {Threei} when see something irresistible
[06:13] {Threei} wouldn't say it's regular occurence
[06:13] {esemde} like CSUN.....
[06:14] {Threei} this is for you:
[06:14] {Threei} ESE
[06:14] {dptl} good morning all
[06:14] {esemde} is that CSUN?....
[06:14] {Threei} dp :)
[06:14] {esemde} dp
[06:14] {Threei} no, for ESE
[06:15] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:15] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:15] {esemde} it goin
[06:16] {BillyD} baby?
[06:16] {liranm} baby?
[06:16] {BillyD} lol
[06:16] {dptl} lol
[06:16] {esemde} musical term.......
[06:16] {BillyD} u scaring me ese
[06:16] {esemde} friendly greeting
[06:16] {liranm} my wife will not like it
[06:17] {Threei} lol
[06:17] {BillyD} for a moment, I thought is Liranm a woman
[06:17] {BillyD} no offense
[06:17] {esemde} looks like i've stired up a controversy.....
[06:17] {BillyD} again
[06:18] {BillyD} :)
[06:20] {BillyD} CSUN holds well so far Vad
[06:21] {BillyD} where is magoo
[06:22] {BillyD} snowed in?
[06:22] {Threei} magoo is busy writing fake letters from Santa
[06:22] {Threei} I sent my request to Santa, for tomorrow's WSJ subscription for 2008
[06:22] {BillyD} or pleading his case for good behavior
[06:22] {magoo} morning
[06:22] {Threei} got answer yesterday, saying:
[06:23] {magoo} was plowing snow all morn
[06:23] {Threei} "aren't you greedy one"
[06:23] {BillyD} lol
[06:23] {Threei} and for some reason signed magoo, crossed out and replaced by Truly Yours, Santa
[06:23] {Threei} oh hi magoo :)
[06:25] {esemde} my kids got one of them letters too
[06:25] {magoo} he he
[06:25] {esemde} except signed "Grinch"
[06:26] {magoo} i caught some ESLR afterhours, it went 18.40 area i believe
[06:26] {Threei} one of this scandalous latest ones ese??
[06:26] {Threei} or normal?
[06:27] {magoo} vad, i gotta motivate u
[06:27] {Threei} uh oh
[06:27] {magoo} i missed first three days, need some moolah
[06:28] * Threei ducks
[06:28] {lumdus} 3i, dcc
[06:28] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[06:33] {Roman} ENER long setup
[06:33] {Threei} BMRN small shares long 36 break
[06:33] {Threei} stop under .75
[06:34] {Roman} in ENER small
[06:34] {Roman} 33.35
[06:34] {Roman} may add small on pullback
[06:34] {Threei} {ENER} what's pullback?
[06:35] {esemde} CSUN blast off approaching
[06:35] {Roman} out ENER +.58
[06:35] {esemde} bstop .66
[06:36] {magoo} in bm,rn agg
[06:36] {magoo} .90
[06:36] {esemde} in .68
[06:36] {Threei} come on 36, give up
[06:37] {Roman} FCeL
[06:37] {Roman} long setup
[06:37] {Threei} nice CSUN ese
[06:37] {esemde} out CSUN .94 +.28
[06:38] {esemde} nice way to start the i have to go and do another show this morning
[06:38] {Threei} finally
[06:38] {magoo} i was kickin it vad
[06:39] {Threei} good job
[06:39] {esemde} i did that with a 1/2 lot Vad..... in your estimation would that be proper risk management
[06:39] {Threei} very much so
[06:39] {esemde} tks
[06:39] {Roman} magoo, where are u waiting on BMRN ?
[06:39] {Threei} CSUN deserves respect risk control wise
[06:39] {esemde} when do you tend to use a full lot
[06:40] {Threei} whewn it's not that jumpy and I can count on no or minimal slippage if getting stopped
[06:40] {Threei} BMRN:
[06:41] {Threei} it has all the markings of these runners of last days that just won't quit moving
[06:41] {Threei} it's at 1:1 now,
[06:41] {BillyD} took scalp on it Vad
[06:41] {BillyD} ty
[06:41] {dptl} out +.23 bmrn ty
[06:41] {Threei} make up your mind whether you want to take easy money or try and exploit this manner of them to go and go and go
[06:42] {magoo} me too, out .23 TY
[06:42] {bruce} 1/2 out brmn +.40
[06:42] {Threei} out half .35
[06:42] {Threei} FCEL moving
[06:42] {Threei} nice one Roman
[06:42] {Threei} (again)
[06:43] {Roman} CSIQ high
[06:44] {Threei} look at RIGL to see what I am trying to say on BMRN
[06:44] {Threei} of course noone knows if it has same chance,
[06:44] {Threei} but it's very similar to how RIGL looked yesterday morning
[06:45] {Threei} and you know how at the end of the day you sigh and say "why didn't I buy and hold"
[06:45] {lumdus} if we only know
[06:45] {Threei} or worse yet, "why didn't you tell us to buy and hold"
[06:45] {Threei} so here is your chance
[06:46] {Threei} solar day alright
[06:46] {Threei} scanner is full of solar stocks
[06:46] {magoo} bmrn solar?
[06:47] {Roman} ENER is new solar discovered play
[06:47] {esemde} indeed Vad indeed
[06:47] {Roman} going to be active
[06:47] {Threei} no magoo
[06:47] {Threei} lost 36, out
[06:48] {lumdus} what a deep
[06:49] {Roman} HOKU
[06:49] {Roman} long setup
[06:49] {Roman} PEIX long setup small
[06:50] {Roman} in HOKU small 11.40
[06:50] {Roman} no chasing
[06:51] {Roman} took PEIX small 6.42
[06:52] {Threei} lol
[06:52] {Threei} 09:51:40 ADMIN7 --} (All): EDGE is having problems with orders, we cant reach them, no one picking up phone.
[06:52] {BillyD} lol...again
[06:52] {Threei} ,EDGE rep, covering his face with both hands} ah leave alone
[06:52] {dptl} lol
[06:53] {cosmo} ESLR weak
[06:53] {BillyD} say the least cosmo
[06:53] {Threei} yeah but do you dare short it
[06:53] {Roman} pit HOKU +.32
[06:53] {BillyD} no
[06:53] {Roman} DNDN radar
[06:53] {cosmo} or find a bottom
[06:54] {liranm} Roman is on fire today, pity I didn't catch anything
[06:54] {bruce} exel vad?
[06:54] {BillyD} 1:30 before open ESLR dropped }40 in flash
[06:55] {Threei} 07:01am [EXEL] GlaxoSmithKline exercises its option to further develop and commercialize EXEL's anti-cancer inhibitor XL880
[06:55] {Threei} trades kind of sporadically
[06:55] {Threei} dunno
[06:55] {bruce} k - passing thanx
[06:56] {Threei} here is the thing about a lot of these stocks you look at and ask bruce:
[06:56] {Threei} they don't trade in a normal manner, no stream of prints
[06:56] {Threei} they sit fopr a while with no trades,
[06:57] {Threei} then some come,
[06:57] {Threei} stop trading again
[06:57] {Threei} this doesn't allow for one of major components of our mehtod of reading,
[06:57] {Threei} which is pace changes
[06:57] {Threei} stock moves up, pace increases, moves down - pace goes down - you get your indication
[06:58] {Threei} on chart you can see it as volume on advance vs volume of pullback
[06:58] {bruce} k
[06:58] {Threei} and when they trade like I described, with no activity, then flurry of prints, then no activity again... you just don't have a way to see which direction is the path of least resistance
[06:59] {bruce} got you - looking for clearer voolume price pattern
[06:59] {Threei} just trying to give you an additional filter to stop wasting time and ebergy on those "can do anything" useless pieces of whatever
[07:00] {bruce} thanx
[07:00] {Threei} keep EXEL on your screen for 5 minutes, watch T&S, you will recognize this kind immediately after this exercise
[07:00] {bruce} no point in looking at coin flip trades
[07:01] {BillyD} coin flip odds better
[07:01] {Threei} no, but there is a p;oint in watching it for a while to make it a recognizable one
[07:01] {Roman} CTDC high
[07:01] {Threei} kind of "adding a tool to your arsenal"
[07:01] {Roman} kinda early but also believe has a Solar connection
[07:02] {cosmo} solar rise in the morning
[07:02] {Threei} process of learning is a process of collecting recognizable situations and shaping up your responses
[07:02] {Threei} so there... one more
[07:02] {Threei} and cosmo... kind of obvious but still good one :)
[07:03] {Roman} VLNC radar, slow one but has some room for upside
[07:03] {cosmo} i always like to make sure tho
[07:07] {Roman} ASTI
[07:07] {Roman} has some room
[07:09] {Threei} CSUN holding rather well
[07:09] {Threei} if not losing .25 has a chance
[07:09] {Threei} break area is .50
[07:09] {magoo} BMRN feels like 37
[07:10] {magoo} in now .33
[07:10] {magoo} fast
[07:10] {magoo} as rtyped
[07:10] {Threei} but aggressive entry with tight stop is better on it yes
[07:11] {Threei} lost .25... no read for now
[07:11] {dino} l drys .95
[07:13] {Threei} OK, CSUN: half lot long .32
[07:13] {Threei} stop under .20
[07:14] {Threei} look to exit half on spike above .40
[07:14] {magoo} in csun
[07:15] {Threei} 1:1
[07:15] {magoo} out here .47 TY nice
[07:15] {dptl} half out .46
[07:15] {Threei} half out, stop to b/e
[07:15] {Threei} brealk or no break?
[07:15] {magoo} half out of a half lot??
[07:16] {Threei} how is it a contradiction?
[07:16] {BillyD} cable company doing maintenance , lost phones and internet
[07:16] {BillyD} luckily not in anything
[07:17] {Threei} break it is
[07:17] {dptl} got scared sold other half
[07:17] {bruce} don't they give you notice billy?
[07:18] {Threei} you are easy to scare dp
[07:18] {BillyD} nol, they were suppose to cal 48 hour advance notice
[07:18] {dptl} well sometimes
[07:18] {Threei} stop to .34
[07:18] {BillyD} got back up ISP in case, but no phone lines
[07:19] {bruce} that sucks - not bothering to give notice
[07:19] {cosmo} forces of nature i say
[07:20] {Threei} JASO lost its mind
[07:20] {Threei} (again)
[07:21] {BillyD} anyhting can happen
[07:21] {BillyD} and it does lol
[07:22] {Threei} out balance CSUN
[07:23] {Threei} CSIQ trying
[07:23] {lumdus} we in csiq ?
[07:23] {Threei} me no
[07:23] {Threei} observing it
[07:24] {Threei} calling attention to it
[07:24] {Threei} if we were in you would see me posting setup on it, with trigger and stop
[07:25] {Threei} .25 resisatnce to break, 24 support... I am not keen on breaks on this one, pullbacks work better with it
[07:25] {lumdus} thank you.
[07:25] {Threei} I'd try to bid half lot at .75
[07:25] {Threei} with top under .50
[07:26] {Threei} if no fill, so be it
[07:26] {Threei} I prefer to miss this one rather than enter too high, it tends to pull back too deep for comfort
[07:27] {BillyD} ESLR looks sneaky
[07:28] {cosmo} snakey
[07:28] {BillyD} tried to buy at 17 and no connection to Laser order server
[07:31] {Threei} EMKR half lot long .70 if holding above .60
[07:34] {Threei} still in BMRN magoo?
[07:34] {magoo} yes
[07:34] {Threei} EMKR, if losing .60 once more forget break
[07:35] {dino} gs stop from yesterday to 212.49
[07:35] {Roman} CPSL trying too
[07:35] {magoo} was waiting .83, only got to .73 dammit
[07:36] {dino} out gs +5.99
[07:36] {dptl} nice one Dino
[07:37] {dino} ty
[07:37] {magoo} now stopped for loss..IDIOT..should stick to scalpin
[07:38] {dino} out drys .19, +.24 toughy today
[07:38] {dptl} emkr...held
[07:40] {Roman} FRPT bouncing nicely
[07:40] {Roman} no clear entry
[07:40] {Roman} i think SPAR should follow
[07:41] {dptl} got.73 emkr
[07:41] {Threei} EMKR stop either .59 or .54, depending on your risk tolerance, both are valid
[07:42] {Roman} watching CHNR with other china plays
[07:43] {magoo} emkr entry was?
[07:43] {Threei} .70
[07:43] {dptl} .70
[07:44] {Roman} long SPAR
[07:45] {Threei} 1:1 EMKR
[07:45] {Roman} 7.20 area
[07:46] {Roman} FFHL think
[07:46] {Roman} radar
[07:46] {Roman} spiker
[07:46] {magoo} bmrn gonna go..back in .29
[07:47] {magoo} risky..stopped mealready
[07:48] {Roman} CHNR
[07:48] {Roman} in super small
[07:48] {magoo} 35.98 stiop
[07:48] {Threei} ESLR pullback entry .51 if holding above .35
[07:50] {dino} meli
[07:52] {magoo} eslr valid still?
[07:52] {Threei} only if not losing .35 anymore
[07:52] {Threei} if it does, interested closer to 17
[07:52] {dptl} stoped emkr
[07:53] {magoo} k
[07:54] {Roman} DNDN
[07:54] {Roman} mentioned on CNBC
[07:55] {lumdus} where would the stop be for eslr if enter
[07:55] {lumdus} forget it lost .35
[07:56] {Threei} if it would, .35 was defined as indicative support
[07:56] {Threei} so stop would be .34
[07:56] {lumdus} ok, maybe here is good
[07:56] {lumdus} in 17.03
[07:56] {bruce} looking like a deep pullback kinda day
[07:57] {Roman} DNDN Dendreon follow up: Jon Najarian highlights stock on CNBC -- says it's going a lot higher, into the "double digits" quickly (7.14 +0.15)
[07:58] {Threei} protect profit lum
[07:59] {lumdus} thank you
[08:00] {dino} bmrn s .15, stop .46
[08:03] {dino} ocnf l .63, stop .37
[08:03] {esemde} what does DNDN do again...anyone know
[08:04] {Threei} drugs
[08:04] {Threei} mostly not approved ones
[08:04] {BillyD} story of most of them
[08:04] {BillyD} they can be good traders though
[08:05] {esemde} this is the one one that went $20 in one day a while ago ....
[08:05] {esemde} one of you caught it on a short on the way down if i remember.....
[08:09] {magoo} what u looking at vad? interested in ESLR?
[08:09] {Threei} not here
[08:09] {Threei} bounce off 17 was it, one that lumdus caught
[08:10] {Threei} next indication on it depends on whether it's able to hold 17
[08:10] {Threei} high is a bit too far from support for now, 30 cents
[08:10] {Threei} so need some new consolidation
[08:11] {Threei} however magoo,
[08:11] {Threei} I have just the thing fro you to endure the lack of activity:
[08:11] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:11] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:11] {Threei} feeling better?
[08:12] {Threei} ESLR tests
[08:12] {Threei} shortable btw
[08:12] {Roman} FRPT topped
[08:12] {Roman} out 1/2 SPAR +.23
[08:12] {Threei} .90 short
[08:13] {Threei} 17.01 stop
[08:13] {Roman} out CHNR +.75
[08:13] {Threei} invalidated
[08:13] {Threei} scorching hot Roman
[08:13] {Threei} aggressive ESLR short here
[08:13] {Roman} LUNA thin
[08:13] {Threei} with .16 stop
[08:13] {Roman} spiker
[08:16] {Threei} 1:1 ESLR cover half
[08:16] {Threei} stop to .06
[08:18] {Threei} NQ drop here should kill ESLR
[08:18] {Threei} in any case, stop is just couple cents now
[08:20] {Threei} stopped
[08:21] {magoo} strong bounce
[08:22] {magoo} dndn hangin around
[08:22] {magoo} anyone in it?
[08:22] {BillyD} not here
[08:25] {magoo} 8 in its range
[08:26] {dino} bstop to .85 bmrn
[08:26] {dino} stopped +.30
[08:28] {esemde} Have a great weekend everyone...i'm off
[08:28] {magoo} u s es
[08:29] {dino} later ese
[08:29] {Threei} take care ese
[08:31] {bruce} bye ese
[08:31] {dino} airm
[08:32] {bruce} frpt
[08:33] {dino} reading my mind bruce
[08:33] {bruce} lol
[08:38] {dptl} Vad,how about emkr of .68?
[08:39] {Threei} nah
[08:40] {dptl} ok
[08:41] {dino} missed frpt
[08:42] {dino} luna
[08:43] {dptl} means moon in russian (luna)
[08:46] {dino} airm l .01, stop lod
[08:49] {BillyD} gotta run out for an hour
[08:50] {magoo} goodd luck
[08:50] {dino} luna, bear in the big blue house
[08:52] {dptl} i am slowly going into coma mode
[08:53] {dino} same here
[08:54] {dptl} well at least Magoo gonna serve beer for you soon
[08:56] {Threei} going into coma?
[08:56] {Threei} you mean you actually ever come out of it?
[08:56] {dptl} for short time Vad
[08:56] {Threei} not me
[09:04] {dino} simo
[09:04] {dino} in 4-5 hours dp
[09:05] {dino} break of .50 bmti s
[09:05] {dino} hbio
[09:05] {dino} b/o 5 bucks
[09:10] {Threei} watch LUNA for bounce here
[09:10] {magoo} u in?
[09:10] {Threei} not yet
[09:11] {magoo} let me know when
[09:11] {Threei} won't do you any good, too thin
[09:11] {dino} simo s .30, wide
[09:12] {Threei} by the time I post price is not likely to be available
[09:12] {Threei} in
[09:12] {Threei} .10
[09:12] {magoo} in .09 lol
[09:12] {Threei} just a scalp IMO
[09:13] {magoo} 37 BMRN
[09:13] {magoo} f'er
[09:13] {magoo} new it
[09:15] {bruce} you buy 2k vad?
[09:16] {Threei} on LUNA??
[09:16] {bruce} yes - saw 2 k entry - seemed like a lot
[09:16] {magoo} prob roman lol
[09:16] {Threei} I like to think of myself as sane
[09:17] {Threei} vould be a stretch of course
[09:17] {Threei} but there are limits to asny stretch
[09:17] {magoo} ugly picture..watching vad stretch
[09:18] {bruce} k -
[09:18] {magoo} where u waitring vad?
[09:18] {Threei} not sure yet
[09:19] {Threei} will see how determined it is
[09:19] {magoo} ok, let me know so i can under cut your offer ok?
[09:19] {Threei} great
[09:19] {dptl} lol
[09:19] {Threei} 10.50 then
[09:19] {magoo} just by a pemnny
[09:19] {magoo} .49
[09:19] {Threei} go ahead and undercut me at 10.49
[09:20] {Threei} ARCA reserve at .17
[09:20] {Threei} that could be your 2K buyer bruce
[09:21] {Threei} if so, sold 1200 already
[09:25] {bruce} big moves meli dino
[09:28] {dino} yes
[09:28] {dino} think we missed it
[09:29] {magoo} out luna like
[09:29] {bruce} lol - I sure did
[09:29] {magoo} sh bidu 393.04
[09:30] {dino} qelp
[09:30] {BillyD} back
[09:32] {dino} you must be tired
[09:32] {BillyD} lol
[09:32] {BillyD} do you and magoo practice your comedy routine together
[09:33] {dino} lol
[09:33] {BillyD} lol
[09:34] {dino} layn blood
[09:36] {magoo} coveredc here 392
[09:36] {magoo} 1.03 200 shgares
[09:40] {bruce} somethings wrong vad
[09:40] {Threei} with the world?
[09:40] {bruce} that too
[09:41] {Threei} I came to this conclusion when heard how Santa got forbidden to say ho ho ho
[09:41] {Threei} as offensive to women
[09:41] {bruce} lol
[09:41] {dptl} lol
[09:41] {bruce} sorry - not supposed to laugh at that
[09:41] {Threei} and it got confirmed when activsts said Santa has to losde weight in order to be a worthy role model
[09:43] {Threei} and in case you think I made that up...
[09:43] {Threei}
[09:44] {dino} ocnf stopped -.28
[09:44] {Threei}
[09:44] {bruce} he should proabably get rid of those smelly reindeer too
[09:44] {BillyD} it is animal cruelty
[09:46] {bruce} indded billy
[09:47] {bruce} plus they're hard on roof shingles
[09:47] {dino} cov simo .06, +.24
[09:49] {dino} "they" have to ruin everything
[09:50] {bruce} "blame canada - blame canada"
[09:50] {bruce} learned that in the "south park movie
[09:52] {BillyD} DNDN activity
[09:54] {BillyD} Vad take a look
[09:54] {BillyD} if holds here and takes .60 offer?
[09:55] {Threei} half lot...
[09:55] {BillyD} k
[09:57] {BillyD} in .61
[09:58] {dptl} in.62
[09:58] {bruce} same billy
[09:58] {BillyD} .62 gotta lift
[09:58] {magoo} in .60
[09:59] {BillyD} I am keeping tight stop by feel
[09:59] {dptl} stop under .50?
[09:59] {BillyD} for sure
[10:00] {Threei} finally
[10:01] {Threei} questionable enthusiasm
[10:01] {BillyD} yup
[10:01] {dino} airm stopped w/slip, .55 ave - .46
[10:01] {magoo} out flat
[10:02] {BillyD} out 1/2 -.02
[10:07] {BillyD} out rest -.06
[10:09] {bruce} out -.08 for me
[10:09] {bruce} good trade control mags
[10:10] {dptl} still in
[10:10] {bruce} break time
[10:10] {BillyD} it may hold here
[10:11] {magoo} dndn u mean?
[10:13] {magoo} treacherous stock, easily drop in .38 area
[10:15] {dptl} stopped dndn
[10:17] {dino} rams
[10:17] {BillyD} EDGE gonna get the boot if it doesn't get its technical issues resolved
[10:17] {magoo} worthless
[10:18] {BillyD} has to be very annoying for everyone
[10:18] {BillyD} especially the guy who won't answer the phone...hehe
[10:18] {magoo} who the heck uses it anyway?
[10:19] {BillyD} ISLD route for me
[10:19] {magoo} ESLR l 17
[10:19] {magoo} fresh?
[10:20] {Threei} 13:18
[10:20] {magoo} u mean 18:13
[10:20] {dino} rams l .20
[10:21] {lumdus} usually when such news comes ou we get a pop ?
[10:22] {BillyD} upgrades/downgrades always questionable
[10:22] {Threei} absolutely not necessary lum
[10:23] {Threei} very much depends on market mood
[10:23] {Threei} in a strong bull, even simple mention can take a stock higher
[10:23] {lumdus} now, everyone out to lunch mabye when they come back we will see it move
[10:24] {Threei} FYI... about 80% of upgrades are being issued in the upper 20% of stock's range... visa-versa for downgrades
[10:24] {Threei} that's official stats from 2002
[10:25] {magoo} uh vad...this is 2008 bro
[10:25] {Threei} so judge for yourself how effective/truthful those are
[10:25] {liranm} Vad, what is your opinion about trading in launch time?
[10:25] {BillyD} so its true, "they" exist
[10:25] {magoo} long eslr off 17
[10:26] {Threei} it's not "mine" liranm, it's very well known... lunch time equals decreased activity, less volume, less pattern-following, more erratic moves
[10:26] {lumdus} lunch time is to eat not to trade. that simple
[10:26] {BillyD} lol
[10:26] {liranm} but I see that you trade launch time every day
[10:27] {Threei} compare activity
[10:27] {Threei} how many calls on average in the morning vs lunch time
[10:27] {Threei} 5:1?
[10:30] {dptl} where is youe stop Magoo?
[10:30] {magoo} .17 cents
[10:30] {Threei} - Jefferies says the terrestrial Solar Concentrated Photo Voltaics (CPV) business is poised for growth in 2008
[10:30] {Threei} - note: EMKR is scheduled to report earnings on Monday morning
[10:31] {magoo} they are pumping it
[10:31] {lumdus} who's pumping it ? i'll go for the rid
[10:31] {dino} artw
[10:31] {Threei} EMKR misses on Monday, it goes to 9 in a blink of eye
[10:32] {lumdus} ok, so just quick trade for lunch money - got it
[10:32] {Threei} beats, opens at 15
[10:32] {Threei} pretty much liranm, follow through is weak so scalps are way to go
[10:32] {lumdus} well, if they just got upgraded chance they beat
[10:32] {Threei} huh?
[10:33] {Threei} how do you figure?
[10:33] {Threei} you haven't seen upgrade followed by huge miss and harrowing haircut?
[10:33] {lumdus} you think they upgrade without knowing anything ?
[10:34] {Threei} that's fundamentally wrong way to approach it lum
[10:34] {lumdus} ok. tha't for the correction
[10:34] {Threei} forget entire universe of reasoning behind the company
[10:34] {Threei} that's for investors
[10:35] {Threei} trade off stock's reaction
[10:35] {lumdus} ok, forgotten . i hear you loud a clear
[10:35] {Threei} you need profit from stock movement - read stock movement
[10:35] {magoo} thats cause hes yelling at u
[10:35] {Threei} you need to be right about company deveopments - read prospects and statements and industry news
[10:36] {lumdus} that's fine, haven't been in the market for a good 3 years. so i need to remember it all
[10:36] {Threei} those two realities are not necessary connected directly
[10:36] {magoo} she was so cold.....all the salt in world could not melt her heart
[10:37] {BillyD} different twilight zones lum
[10:37] {magoo} .83 is my stop, was not hit
[10:37] {magoo} saw .85
[10:37] {dptl} no...still in
[10:37] {BillyD} it hit .83
[10:38] {BillyD} barely
[10:38] {magoo} i no see thatr
[10:38] {magoo} i manually stoppin
[10:38] {BillyD} look at chart
[10:38] {magoo} NO
[10:38] {lumdus} 3i, so help me here i am in emkr 12.53
[10:39] {Threei} I can't
[10:39] {Threei} I see no play here
[10:39] {lumdus} oh, thanks partner
[10:39] {Threei} it can do anything
[10:39] {BillyD} lum, set stop or sell it
[10:39] {lumdus} ok, stop 12.54
[10:40] {lumdus} it felt like it needed me in the stock
[10:40] {BillyD} peaceful eh :)
[10:40] {BillyD} lol
[10:40] {dino} artw l .75, risky
[10:40] {magoo} offer it out LUm'
[10:42] {magoo} u got a good not give it back imho
[10:44] {dino} out artw .15, +.40
[10:44] {magoo} magoo kickin punchin biting pullin ESLR
[10:44] {lumdus} a few cents i got it
[10:46] {magoo} out .17 + .17 FL
[10:47] {BillyD} nice one guys
[10:48] {dino} out ra,ms +.20 at .40
[10:49] {magoo} sigh..i wish vad would contribute {as i run to hide under rock lol}
[10:49] {BillyD} magoo, do you do motocycly jumping/flips etc
[10:50] {BillyD} watching some guys on ESPN and amazed
[10:50] {Threei} magoo, you almost did it
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] {Threei} but I kept myself restrained... trout is back to holster
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] {Threei} but holster is unbuttoned
[10:50] {Chaeron} there you go Threei... I had mine handy
[10:50] {BillyD} rfol
[10:50] {Threei} thank you Chaeron
[10:51] {Threei} how about that, EMKR?
[10:51] * Chaeron changes his nick to
[10:51] {Chaeron} Quickdraw
[10:51] {Chaeron} *sigh*
[10:51] {Chaeron} (dang fat fingers)
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:53] {Chaeron} :)
[10:53] {lumdus} funny place. same joke about this trout
[10:53] * BillyD slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:53] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[10:54] {BillyD} lum, do you know how to trout someone
[10:54] {Threei} TTR, page 11-13, then 44 and on - everything you need to know about trading vs upgrades, downgrades and all this chaff
[10:56] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:56] {lumdus} ouch it hurts. be kind
[10:57] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:57] {magoo} hoe bout now?
[10:57] {BillyD} fight back lum
[10:57] {Threei} magoo? kind? now, that's something I hopew never to see
[10:57] {magoo} u pushing your luck little man {soup nazi lol}
[10:57] {Chaeron} will mean the end of age
[10:58] {Threei} you mean end of era
[10:58] {magoo} u mean end of days
[10:58] {Threei} magoo, you mean he actually meant something?
[10:58] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:59] {magoo} i mean he meant what you mean i think
[10:59] {Threei} {--- going to monastery for the next three years to ponder it all
[10:59] {magoo} with vodka??
[10:59] {Threei} and chaeron's trout
[11:00] {lumdus} lots of vodka
[11:00] {magoo} i was out drinking in snowstorm last nite...woke up, bottle of vodka on my night stand and my freezer was wringing from cell phone
[11:00] {magoo} CSUN activity
[11:01] {magoo} BMRN
[11:01] {Threei} {--- extneds monastery term to 5 years to ponder latest magoo statement
[11:03] {Threei} 11.57 that stopped CSUN today is exact high on the last spike, 12/o5
[11:03] {Threei} and just 4 cents diff with one before that, 10.29
[11:03] {Threei} all 3 together formed C&H on daily
[11:03] {magoo} enough with commentary and pick a winner {as magoo dives foir cover}
[11:03] {Threei} volume configures right
[11:04] {Threei} OK, that did it
[11:04] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {magoo} ROFLOL
[11:04] {Threei} ideally, I would like to see CSUN breaking this high on Monday
[11:04] {Threei} would be clasic C&H break
[11:11] {dino} layn l .12
[11:12] {BillyD} aimless wandering
[11:16] {dino} pfwd
[11:25] {Threei} SFUN
[11:25] {Threei} I don't see news
[11:25] {Threei} probably just another solar getting rememberd
[11:26] {BillyD} AFFX
[11:26] {BillyD} nice chart
[11:26] {Threei} whoa
[11:26] {BillyD} intraday
[11:26] {Threei} SFUN
[11:27] {lumdus} affx is solar also ?
[11:27] {Threei} rotten spread
[11:27] {magoo} shortable
[11:27] {Threei} AFFX is bio
[11:27] {BillyD} not sure lum
[11:27] {Threei} (I think)
[11:28] {BillyD} got upgrade today
[11:28] {BillyD} slow though
[11:32] {Threei} who plugged SFUN into high-voltage supply?
[11:32] {magoo} wheres the short?
[11:33] {BillyD} dunno, it probably said sun was shining over its corporate HQ
[11:34] {magoo} 10 was the short
[11:34] {Threei} 10.06 even better
[11:36] {BillyD} didn't want to buy on price alone here
[11:37] {BillyD} you interested Vad
[11:37] {Threei} I don't know... it almost completed roundtrip
[11:37] {dino} pfwd l .36
[11:38] {Threei} feels like just some pump somewhere
[11:38] {BillyD} yeah
[11:38] {BillyD} keep me honest
[11:38] {Threei} those often turn into one time deal
[11:38] {BillyD} no one to sell to
[11:39] {BillyD} AFFX I like if holds and takes high
[11:39] {BillyD} mkt dependent probably
[11:41] {Threei} 9.20 if holding above .10
[11:41] {Threei} if loses it, want it under 9
[11:41] {Threei} 50/50 play, just on small risk
[11:41] {lumdus} whcih stock ?
[11:42] {dptl} sfun
[11:42] {lumdus} ahhh, not my type
[11:48] {BillyD} thx for nothing AFFX
[11:49] {dino} bmti cov .22, +.24
[11:50] {magoo} is volume low today anyone?
[11:51] {Threei} yes
[11:51] {dptl} are you in sfun ,Vad?
[11:51] {Threei} yeah
[11:51] {Threei} not for long I suspect
[11:52] {dptl} in .22
[11:52] {dino} special dividend or something, $1
[11:52] {Threei} yuk
[11:52] {BillyD} sheesh
[11:53] {dino} hey, i don't make the rules...
[11:53] {BillyD} lol
[11:53] {dptl} out.09
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {magoo} quid bounce vad??
[12:04] {magoo} i mean opposite
[12:04] {Threei} hmm?
[12:07] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:07] {magoo} wake up man!!!
[12:07] {Threei} CSUN
[12:08] {Threei} .70 reak half lkot
[12:08] {Threei} .55 stop
[12:09] {magoo} what a reak lkot??
[12:09] {dptl} lol
[12:10] {Threei} frikin stock right at .70 at the moment, I am trying to type as fast as I can in case it scrolls... and what do I get for effort?
[12:11] {magoo} what is it??real lot?
[12:11] {Threei} and from whom? world's best typist magoo {G}
[12:14] {dino} biti
[12:14] {bruce} a half lkot sounds like a medical condition
[12:16] {dino} out pfrd .50, +.14
[12:18] {Threei} stop to .63
[12:19] {dino} risky, s biti .05
[12:21] {magoo} breaking SFUN trades vad
[12:21] {Threei} lol
[12:21] {Threei} [14:38] {Threei} feels like just some pump somewhere
[12:22] {Threei} 15:04:23 ADMIN7 --} (All): NASDAQ MarketWatch is investigating potentially erroneous transactions involving the security Saifun Semiconductors Ltd "SFUN" executed between 2:22:00 and 2:40:00 ET today
[12:23] {magoo} short qid yet boss?
[12:23] {Threei} no idea... it can continue wityh the same odds
[12:24] {Chaeron} leaving early all... have a great weekend. Best to all
[12:24] {Threei} take care chaeron
[12:24] {dino} take care chaer
[12:24] {magoo} WAIT!
[12:24] {magoo} missed him
[12:26] {magoo} i just didn't know how many shares were in a reak klot, so missed csun
[12:26] {Threei} god, send me power to bear with him
[12:26] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:27] {lumdus} way to funny
[12:27] {bruce} I've heard reak klots smell real bad too mags
[12:29] {magoo} sound like they would
[12:29] {bruce} maybe its a russian christmas dish?
[12:29] {bruce} mmm- pass the real klots
[12:29] {magoo} roflol
[12:29] {magoo} killing me
[12:30] {Threei} on second thought... I already demonstrated enough restraint and exercised enough patience
[12:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:30] * Threei slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:30] {magoo} choking here wuith layughter
[12:30] {bruce} trout and reak klots - yummer
[12:31] {Threei} make sure you sprinkle them with enough vodka to get real russian flavor
[12:31] {lumdus} csun we scalp +.12 - good for supper
[12:31] {Threei} good thing we haven't got ourselves into SFUN
[12:32] {Threei} if they break trades it's not fun
[12:32] {Threei} not even S fun
[12:32] {lumdus} sfun .. ha ha
[12:32] {magoo} yeah..been there remember
[12:32] {Threei} SCUN 1:1
[12:32] {Threei} CSUN
[12:33] {Threei} on reak klot
[12:33] {Threei} whatever that is
[12:33] {lumdus} freakin lot's
[12:34] {BillyD} out vad ty
[12:34] {BillyD} a miracle it worked
[12:34] {Threei} welcome sir
[12:34] {bruce} reak klots with trout and vodka
[12:34] {magoo} make sure on my bidu calls u only take a reak klot ok?
[12:34] {Threei} why... reak klots work well
[12:34] {bruce} and russian bear intestine
[12:34] {BillyD} lol
[12:34] {bruce} now thats a real treat
[12:35] {BillyD} so Vad, I guess we still own our SFUN trades
[12:36] {dptl} out +0.20 csun ty
[12:36] {BillyD} wtg dp
[12:36] {Threei} welcome dp
[12:36] {Threei} they haven't broken them yet billy, just investigating
[12:37] {Threei} my time stamps are outside of their investigated frame
[12:37] {lumdus} csun could run hard .. right ?
[12:37] {dino} out layn .37, +.25
[12:37] {Threei} so I guess we do whatever happens
[12:37] {BillyD} exactly
[12:37] {Threei} very much so lum
[12:37] {BillyD} can't lose :)
[12:37] {Threei} you mean 'cause we already did? {G}
[12:37] {BillyD} yes
[12:38] {magoo} u still in a half reak klot CSUN?
[12:38] {Threei} you can lose if one side of your trade is within timeframe getting broken
[12:38] {Threei} no, out full klot
[12:38] {magoo} ok
[12:41] {dino} apei, nice spread
[12:49] {Threei} CLNE, interesting move
[12:49] {BillyD} MESA as well
[12:51] {Threei} if .95 gets taken on CSUN, deserves another shot
[12:51] {Threei} risky
[12:51] {dino} biti stopped -.22
[12:54] {dptl} with stop under .80?
[12:54] {Threei} depends on where it bottoms on this pullback
[12:55] {dptl} i see
[12:55] {dptl} 5 min left
[12:55] {Threei} yeah, no time for a play
[12:55] {Threei} not even reak klot
[12:55] {bruce} green 8 out of 10 days so far this month vad
[12:55] {dptl} lol
[12:55] {Threei} now we are talking
[12:55] {Threei} wtg bruce
[12:56] {bruce} know what that means?
[12:56] {Threei} tell me
[12:56] {bruce} I'm environmentally friendly now
[12:56] {Threei} ahhh
[12:56] {BillyD} lol
[12:57] {Threei} dp, dcc please before you leave
[12:57] {bruce} have a great weekend all
[12:57] {bruce} go easy on the klots
[12:57] {Threei} take care bruce, good job
[12:57] {bruce} see you monday
[12:57] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:57] {bruce} help much appreciated
[12:58] {Threei} what help... reak klots is all I am capable of
[12:59] {Threei} but a lot of them
[12:59] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[12:59] {Threei} have a great relaxing weekend
[12:59] {BillyD} u 2
[13:00] {Threei} don't overeat reak klots
[13:00] {dptl} have a good weekend all
[13:00] {magoo} thanx ecverybody
[13:12] {dino} later all
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