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[05:49] {Threei} 00:37am [JMBA] Nestle USA to begin selling Jamba Juice at grocery stores in 8 Western US states in 2008
[05:55] {BillyD} morning Vad
[05:56] {Threei} Billy :)
[06:02] {Threei} (CA) BANK OF CANADA LOWERS INTEREST RATES BY 25BP TO 4.25%, NOT EXPECTED
[06:02] {Threei} big smile here
[06:02] {BillyD} wow
[06:03] {Threei} CAD just dropped half cent
[06:03] {Threei} just 30-40 more to go for me to be very happy
[06:03] {dptl} good morning all
[06:03] {BillyD} dp
[06:03] {Threei} dp :)
[06:03] {BillyD} maybe today ZIXI goes
[06:04] {Threei} want dark secret?
[06:04] {BillyD} it triggered yesterday but di nothing
[06:04] {Threei} I was interested to see how OMS works... left buy stop
[06:04] {BillyD} why not
[06:04] {Threei} got a fill
[06:05] {Threei} dp... as canuck to canuck:
[06:05] {Threei} USD BREAKS ABOVE 1.01 LEVEL AFTER SURPRISE BOC INTEREST RATE CUT
[06:05] {dptl} oms?
[06:05] {Threei} OMS modulwe in new version
[06:05] {Threei} stop orders
[06:06] {Threei} it says "and more" but I didn't get to and more part :)
[06:07] {dptl} you got that new laser version?
[06:07] {Threei} yes sir
[06:07] {Threei} 1.0132 CAD right now
[06:08] {Threei} I asked bruce yesterday, you didn't see? he said it's more stable quotes qise
[06:08] {BillyD} Vad...on OMS
[06:08] {Threei} (not that I had many complaints before... but more is better)
[06:08] {Threei} I guess
[06:09] {Threei} yes Billy
[06:09] {BillyD} when entering order ....do you enter as stop limit to buy say when hits 4.189 and then a stop limit price?
[06:09] {BillyD} 4.19
[06:09] {Threei} that's what I did... but one thing I just realized
[06:10] {Threei} I was in a hurry and haven't looked what happened right after I hit SAtart Order
[06:10] {Threei} so, I am not sure whether it was sitting waiting for a trigger
[06:10] {Threei} or got executed immediately
[06:10] {Threei} see what I mean?
[06:10] {BillyD} yes
[06:10] {BillyD} when entering stop limit
[06:11] {BillyD} is the price field the order to trigger your order?
[06:11] {Threei} they could work the same for new and existing position, or they could work differently
[06:11] {Threei} gotta check on that
[06:11] {cosmo} is there a cue for thes orders?
[06:11] {Threei} that's my understanding billy
[06:12] {Threei} cue?
[06:12] {cosmo} you stand in line, that is
[06:12] {Threei} line?
[06:12] {BillyD} ak Vad...and the stop limit is the max price you are willing to pay right
[06:12] {Threei} what is it, buying milk in USSR circa 1970?
[06:12] {Threei} right
[06:12] {BillyD} ty
[06:12] {cosmo} if its a limit order, you might get left behind
[06:12] {BillyD} right cosmo
[06:12] {Threei} if there are enough shares you won't
[06:13] {Threei} if not, then it's who is first
[06:13] {cosmo} liquididy is key
[06:13] {Threei} and this is where Laser shines
[06:13] {BillyD} Vad..I wonder what route it uses?
[06:13] {Threei} all things equal, it tends to be first :)
[06:14] {Threei} smart or inet - my understanding
[06:14] {BillyD} ok
[06:14] {cosmo} i like smart
[06:14] {Threei} me too
[06:14] {BillyD} smart does what again?
[06:14] {cosmo} but, who knows about laser
[06:14] {Threei} sweeps everything
[06:15] {cosmo} its their 'smart' protocol that matters
[06:15] {BillyD} so does Inet right Vad
[06:15] {Threei} smart makes me feel inadequate cosmo... but also gives me a confidence adequacy if not required
[06:15] {Threei} if you chwecked Route Out, yes
[06:16] {BillyD} w/ smart if sweeps everything and not enough to fill order....it doesn't put balance at offer or bid right?
[06:16] {Threei} INET does
[06:16] {cosmo} trust the force, if you dare
[06:16] {Threei} Smart, I think does too but I could be wrong
[06:16] {dino} gm all
[06:17] {BillyD} dino :)
[06:17] {Threei} since executions became no brainer I stopped looking into those fine details as thorouighly as I did during SOES/SNet times :)
[06:17] {Threei} dino :)
[06:17] {BillyD} INET is great
[06:18] {Threei} it's amazing how ewhole area of art of getting your order filled got just wiped out eh?
[06:18] {BillyD} make sit a truer mkt
[06:18] {Threei} 1.0138, canucks
[06:19] {cosmo} its like starting your car without a crank
[06:19] {Threei} lol
[06:19] {cosmo} it like to use a key
[06:19] {BillyD} or remote
[06:19] {esemde} morning....
[06:19] {Threei} ese, Christams came today from Bank of Canada :)
[06:19] {esemde} in the form of what
[06:19] {Threei} rate cut
[06:20] {Threei} CAD getting slaughtered
[06:20] {Threei} 1.0142
[06:20] {esemde} yahoo!!!!!!!
[06:20] {Threei} there :)
[06:20] {cosmo} JMBA looks like a buyout.....?
[06:20] {Threei} no
[06:20] {cosmo} chart...that is
[06:21] {cosmo} 3.98 hod
[06:21] {cosmo} pre mkt coma?
[06:22] {cosmo} nah
[06:22] {Threei} just haven't got the guts to break resistance so far
[06:22] {cosmo} ah...guts... I remember those
[06:22] {Threei} lol
[06:27] {dino} back in 30-40 min.
[06:28] {cosmo} can't look..right?
[06:29] {cosmo} SOLF pre mkt high = 21.30 fwiw
[06:30] {BillyD} couldn't bring myself to buy SOLF on premkt PB
[06:31] {Threei} JMBA, 4 looks like long trigger but I'd like to see how it trades... hope it won't break right out of the gate
[06:33] {Threei} out ZIXI +.1 btw
[06:33] {Threei} hope I won't cause inflation when spend it
[06:33] {BillyD} lol
[06:33] {Threei} .01 that is
[06:34] {BillyD} rflol
[06:34] {Threei} was worth an OMS test :)
[06:34] {BillyD} yes
[06:35] {Threei} JMBS trying
[06:35] {Threei} 4.01
[06:35] {Threei} if stays above 3.95
[06:35] {cosmo} :)
[06:36] {Threei} 1:1
[06:36] {BillyD} out took some aggressivre at .93
[06:36] {Threei} out in full
[06:36] {bruce} out 1/2 .23
[06:36] {Threei} cool beans guys
[06:37] {Threei} good to see you focused and decisive
[06:37] {BillyD} a little more patience would help :)
[06:38] {bruce} out balance .45
[06:38] {BillyD} gj bruce
[06:38] {bruce} nice trade vad
[06:38] {bruce} thanx billy
[06:38] {bruce} lucky
[06:39] {Threei} high five bruce
[06:39] {Threei} beautifully done
[06:40] {bruce} thanx vadster
[06:40] {dptl} that was quick
[06:41] {Threei} that's how we like'em
[06:41] {Threei} instant gratification
[06:41] {Threei} argh ZIXI
[06:41] {Threei} you took it too dp?
[06:42] {Threei} JMBA I mean
[06:42] {dptl} yep thnx
[06:42] {esemde} CSIQ news?...
[06:42] {Threei} not that I see
[06:43] {esemde} tks
[06:43] {esemde} shot up $1 almost instantly
[06:43] {Threei} just being itself
[06:45] {cosmo} MPEL
[06:45] {esemde} am watching that one as well cos
[06:46] {cosmo} needs to hold .95
[06:46] {bruce} holx as long play vad?
[06:47] {Roman} CSUN spike
[06:47] {Threei} SOLF small shares long 22.50 break
[06:47] {esemde} yes...have tentatively got a bstop in at .35
[06:47] {Threei} not my cup of tea bruce
[06:48] {esemde} CSIQ go nuts baby...
[06:48] {Threei} SOLF stop under .30
[06:50] {BillyD} out +.29 very small shares
[06:50] {Threei} out half
[06:50] {BillyD} ty
[06:50] {Threei} yw
[06:50] {Threei} out in full
[06:50] {bruce} out in full solf + .20
[06:50] {Threei} qwhew
[06:50] {bruce} no guts on that one
[06:50] {esemde} long small CSIQ .50
[06:50] {BillyD} JMBA PB
[06:51] {esemde} passing on MPEL...
[06:51] {Threei} ah come on brucve... 100 shares with 20-30 cents stop?
[06:51] {esemde} concentrating on one
[06:52] {dptl} missed solf but got mpel....thnx
[06:53] {esemde} out CSIQ .86..+36
[06:53] {bruce} yep - should have stayed in vad
[06:53] {BillyD} in JMBA .11
[06:54] {BillyD} out some +.10
[06:54] {esemde} MPEL did ok as well...cos did you play it?
[06:55] {dino} gj guys
[06:55] {BillyD} out rest JMBA
[06:55] {BillyD} lame bounce
[06:56] {BillyD} watch large JMBA offer for possible new entry
[06:56] {cosmo} TRMP @ 4.50 hod
[06:57] {BillyD} Vad...thoughts on JMBA
[06:57] {Threei} not sure
[06:57] {bruce} just wondering where you got .50 entry for solf vad - previous high was .80
[06:58] {bruce} so that was a pullback entry?
[06:58] {Threei} huge offers
[06:58] {BillyD} yes at .20 as well
[06:58] {bruce} ah
[06:58] {bruce} k
[06:58] {bruce} hadn't noticed that
[06:58] {esemde} L csiq .80
[06:58] {cosmo} TRMP @ 4.50 hod fwiw
[06:59] {bruce} you mean huge bids?
[06:59] {Threei} no
[06:59] {esemde} out csiq .26 +.46
[06:59] {Threei} look at ity this way bruce
[06:59] {Threei} bids or offers by themselves are not very indicative,
[07:00] {esemde} next resistance .78 csiq
[07:00] {Threei} it's how stock goes about them that is telling
[07:00] {bruce} you're thinking really large offers are a fakeout?
[07:00] {Threei} SOLF had huge offers at .50,
[07:00] {Threei} it's generally thin stock,
[07:00] {bruce} k
[07:00] {bruce} got you
[07:00] {bruce} so when it broke no where to go but a quick up
[07:00] {Threei} overcoming such resistance is a very good sign of strength,
[07:01] {bruce} got it - thanx
[07:01] {Threei} so break of that level with taking out big offers becomes a trigger
[07:01] {bruce} yup
[07:01] {bruce} makes sense to me
[07:01] {esemde} am done for the day...2 good hits with CSIQ.
[07:01] {Threei} overall, never think of support and resistance (however you define them) as levels where stock will or will not turn because of those levels,
[07:01] {dino} hl l lstr .80
[07:02] {Threei} think of them as levels where stock will or will not turn because of what it does with those levels
[07:02] {Threei} wtg ese
[07:02] {BillyD} good analogy Vad
[07:02] {Threei} see what I mean by that?
[07:02] {Threei} you have a resistance at 20,
[07:03] {bruce} yep - makes sense to me
[07:03] {Threei} chart formation or MA, or Level 2, or awhatever. or any combination of those,
[07:03] {esemde} somethings up with this one....is probably going to take a shot at 5yrs high next few days
[07:03] {Threei} you can't tell what to do when it comes to 20
[07:03] {esemde} for sure
[07:03] {Threei} but when it breaks or doesn't break that 20, that is what defines your action
[07:04] {cosmo} Bush on TV
[07:04] {Roman} JASO long
[07:04] {Roman} small
[07:04] {Roman} 56.05 area
[07:04] {Roman} ESLR pop
[07:05] {bruce} thanx vad
[07:09] {dino} mind hl l .24, stop .97
[07:09] {Threei} always
[07:10] {Threei} ESLR if you want it, go for pullback
[07:10] {Threei} it's back into support
[07:10] {Threei} CSIQ moving up again, should help
[07:10] {Threei} .86 trigger if stays above .80
[07:11] {dino} teloz
[07:11] {Threei} 7-8 cents stop, certainly worth a try
[07:12] {BillyD} JMBA gonna try imo
[07:13] {Roman} i am going to ride JASO a bit
[07:13] {Roman} see what happens
[07:13] {Roman} CTDC playng a bit
[07:16] {Threei} ESLR 1:1
[07:16] {Threei} half out
[07:16] {BillyD} took it for dime Vad ty
[07:16] {Threei} :)
[07:16] {BillyD} stopped jmba -.05
[07:16] {dino} mind stopped -.27
[07:17] {dptl} nice eslr....missed it
[07:17] {Threei} wow... don't sleep at the wheel dp, it was at the trigger level for like couple minutes
[07:17] {dptl} should quit smoking
[07:17] {Threei} ah lol
[07:18] {dino} mind rinse
[07:18] {Threei} out 1/4 more
[07:18] {Threei} +.20
[07:18] {Threei} stop .89
[07:19] {esemde} good run in solars today...
[07:19] {Threei} nice to see
[07:19] {Threei} when mania is in town, peanuts sell well
[07:19] {esemde} ESLR ..that should keep going up rest of the day
[07:21] {Threei} ZIXI... why didn't I focus on continuation
[07:21] {esemde} how long do manias in general last vad...or does it depend on the type of mania it is....could solars be what...couple of years?
[07:21] {Threei} got =distracted by all the solars hoopla
[07:21] {Threei} no way to tell ese... anywhere from 1 day to years
[07:21] {esemde} hmmmmm
[07:22] {esemde} these are things of the future.....hmmmmm
[07:22] {Threei} we saw stem cells manias lasted for 1 day.... and we saw internet mania lasted for years
[07:22] {esemde} pre 2000 for internet?
[07:22] {dino} spir?
[07:23] {Threei} remember times when news about company starting website would prop it to double and triple in a matter of hours? :)
[07:23] {esemde} yes
[07:23] {Threei} KTEL? :)
[07:23] {Threei} how lame was that... and went from 6 to 80
[07:23] {esemde} lived in Winnipeg...can't for get that one
[07:23] {Threei} :)
[07:24] {dino} lstr stop to .04
[07:24] {Threei} so you remember owner refusing to sell his shares because "he was told it goes to 100"
[07:24] {bruce} atvi - any read?
[07:24] {Threei} no... I hate daily
[07:25] {bruce} k
[07:25] {dino} to .16
[07:25] {Threei} this is formation where it can do anything
[07:25] {esemde} kind of remember that..he was arogant
[07:25] {esemde} young fellow as i recal
[07:25] {Threei} ASTI
[07:26] {esemde} he's broke now...
[07:26] {Threei} don't chase it
[07:26] {Threei} let's see if we get pullback
[07:26] {dino} out lstr .20, +.40
[07:26] {Threei} closer to 19
[07:26] {Threei} if not let it be
[07:26] {Threei} risk is too high here
[07:26] {bruce} nice dino
[07:27] {Threei} SPIR is solar too dino, if I am not mistaken
[07:27] {dino} ty bruce
[07:27] {dino} ok thx, couldn't figure it out
[07:27] {dino} overthinking
[07:28] {dino} fcsx
[07:28] {dino} wow solf
[07:28] {dino} the only one not going up is fslr
[07:29] {BillyD} I've noticed some sticking "last trades" in boardview since new install of laser....anyone else?
[07:29] {BillyD} stock is up .20 and I show last trade .20 lower
[07:30] {Threei} there were some changes to boardview billy, read release notes
[07:30] {dino} ctrp
[07:30] {BillyD} ok
[07:30] {Threei} http://www.gndt.com/home/release.htm
[07:30] {BillyD} ty
[07:31] {dino} hl s ctrp .47 risky
[07:31] {Threei} essentially, they took it off real time by default as bandwidth saving option
[07:31] {Threei} and left it up to you to turn it on
[07:31] {Threei} and regulate updating speed
[07:31] {esemde} eslr....nice
[07:32] {Threei} SOLF takes it with it I believe
[07:32] {Threei} out last portion ESLR
[07:33] {Threei} SOLF euphoria
[07:33] {Threei} top is coming
[07:33] {magoo} morn RT
[07:33] {Threei} mags!'
[07:33] {magoo} :)
[07:33] {Threei} missed beautiful morning :(
[07:34] {magoo} always vad
[07:34] {Threei} wow... hit SOLF top to the second
[07:34] {Threei} too bad in words and not in actual trade
[07:35] {Threei} ah not shortable anyway
[07:35] {magoo} is the download easy process?
[07:35] {Threei} yes
[07:35] {Threei} piece of cake
[07:35] {magoo} i go try now, brb
[07:35] {Threei} in some cases have to uninstall old version first but in most, no
[07:36] {magoo} wait, first, anything i ned to know?
[07:36] {Threei} make sure you know where your layout is saved
[07:36] {Threei} just in case
[07:36] {BillyD} ty Vad...that helped
[07:36] {Threei} it should recognize it automatically but you know...
[07:36] {Threei} welcome billy
[07:37] {dptl} got to leave early.........see ya all tomorrow......
[07:38] {Threei} take care dp
[07:38] {Threei} wait!
[07:38] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[07:38] {Threei} now go
[07:38] {BillyD} lol
[07:38] {dptl} lol
[07:40] {dino} ctrp not moving, bstop to .52
[07:42] {dino} ctrp stopped -.20 slippage
[07:43] {Threei} you have SOLF for short dino?
[07:43] {dino} can't borrow
[07:43] {Threei} ok... noone does, forget it
[07:43] {magoo} i think SOLF put me in a daytrade call friday
[07:44] {magoo} i have a call into genesis to find out
[07:44] {magoo} one of those nice surprises
[07:44] {Threei} sheesh, what a PIA
[07:44] {magoo} walk in owe 7k
[07:45] {magoo} ive talked to u before on this
[07:45] {Threei} yes
[07:45] {magoo} no way for meto correctproblem
[07:45] {Threei} there is... I told you about it
[07:45] {esemde} wow. SOLF up $6 and change...
[07:45] {magoo} that won't work for me :(
[07:45] {dino} i seem to be back in the i'm better in the afternoon zone
[07:46] {magoo} brb
[07:48] {bruce} I suck in the afternoons dino
[07:50] {Threei} HOKU 8.50 break long if stays above .30, half lot
[07:50] {dino} i'm george castanzza , opposit
[07:54] {Threei} SOLF feels long again
[07:54] {Threei} with 26 support
[07:56] {dino} hl s cmgi .73
[07:56] {dino} stop .02
[07:57] {bruce} l hoku - stop to .40
[07:58] {BillyD} out HOKU thx Vad
[07:58] {Threei} welcome
[07:59] {Threei} 1:1
[07:59] {bruce} out 1/2 hoku .70
[07:59] {BillyD} you saw some hidden tension Vad on HOKU
[08:00] {Threei} and another solar... lagging
[08:00] {BillyD} nice...I always think it is Bio
[08:00] {BillyD} reminds me of DNDN
[08:00] {magoo} anyone go for SOLF?
[08:01] {bruce} stopped balance hoku .60
[08:04] {dino} teloz hl s .99, stop .33
[08:08] {BillyD} missing ZIXI bothers me]
[08:09] {BillyD} such a nice setup
[08:10] {Threei} yeah
[08:10] {Threei} was so narrow yesterday, today showed its potential
[08:10] {BillyD} I got 100 at .26 and wouldn't pay up
[08:10] {BillyD} and took -.05 stop yesterday eod
[08:11] {Threei} triggered too close to eod
[08:11] {BillyD} yes...otherwise would had held
[08:12] {Chaeron} gm all... :)
[08:12] {Threei} chaeron :)
[08:12] {BillyD} C:)
[08:12] {bruce} hi chaeron
[08:16] {esemde} have a great rest of the day all...see ya tomorrow
[08:16] {BillyD} bye ese
[08:16] {Threei} takwe care ese
[08:16] {magoo} bye ES
[08:16] {esemde} see ya billy
[08:16] {magoo} hi chaer
[08:16] {esemde} mags
[08:16] {Threei} you instill inferiority complex in Chaeron
[08:20] {Threei} somewhat tough trade:
[08:20] {dino} cmgi cov .63, +.10
[08:20] {Threei} TIVO
[08:21] {BillyD} not enough yesterday eh
[08:21] {Threei} 7.96 trigger, .84 stop
[08:21] {Threei} lol
[08:21] {BillyD} at least you can sleep with this one
[08:21] {Threei} it nears 52 week huigh
[08:21] {dino} teloz stopped -.33
[08:22] {Threei} will try OMS module for buy stop
[08:23] {Threei} consider me a guinea pig
[08:23] {BillyD} u get it
[08:23] {magoo} io in billy
[08:23] {magoo} tivo
[08:23] {Threei} yes
[08:26] {dino} citp s .15, stop .28]
[08:26] {BillyD} sovad...in OMs....u set price at .96 and then stop limit at .96?
[08:27] {Threei} that's what I did but I am not sure I did it right
[08:30] {BillyD} ok
[08:30] {dino} layn
[08:31] {dino} hl l layn .50
[08:33] {dino} killed it in 2 cent beat
[08:37] {magoo} vad, i downloaded, i do not see any look thats different
[08:37] {Threei} click View
[08:38] {magoo} ok
[08:38] {Threei} do you see the line that says
[08:38] {Threei} CreditSuisee settings?
[08:38] {magoo} yup
[08:38] {Threei} OK, you got new version alright
[08:38] {Threei} OMS module under Modules is for stops
[08:38] {BillyD} Is applicable to us Vad
[08:38] {BillyD} CS
[08:38] {magoo} i still have "methods window"
[08:38] {Threei} sure
[08:39] {magoo} old stop
[08:39] {Threei} I just know little about it
[08:39] {Threei} old stop is buried
[08:39] {Threei} OMS module is the way to enter it
[08:39] {Threei} make sure you read release notes
[08:39] {Threei} http://www.gndt.com/home/release.htm
[08:40] {BillyD} in L2 Route pop up window "stop" is still an option
[08:40] {Threei} I don't know what it is and how to use it... gotta ask dave
[08:40] {BillyD} ok
[08:46] {Threei} watching NVDA for short if NQ drops quickly
[08:46] {Threei} 32 closest resistance
[08:47] {dino} citp stopped -.15
[08:50] {dino} uhal drop thin
[08:51] {BillyD} NVDA here Vad
[08:52] {BillyD} can't get a clear read
[08:52] {Threei} no... but it's more of a risk-based setup here
[08:52] {BillyD} makes sense
[08:53] {Threei} meaning, close to 32 worth a try simply on a very small stop size even if odds are 50/50
[08:53] {magoo} anyone still in TIVO?
[08:53] {BillyD} yes
[08:53] {BillyD} no on tivo
[09:00] {magoo} ok vad, read it
[09:01] {Threei} don't tell me you understood it all
[09:01] {magoo} now how do i actually use it? as in, like old way? click price, go to mrthod window?
[09:01] {Threei} it will make me feel very inferior
[09:01] {Threei} use OMS you mean?
[09:01] {magoo} yeah
[09:01] {Threei} no, click Add new order button
[09:02] {Threei} fill in all the parameters
[09:02] {Threei} click OK
[09:02] {Threei} when you want order to actualize, click green triangle button
[09:02] {magoo} OY, wheres new order button
[09:02] {Threei} open OMS module first, lol
[09:02] {Threei} Modules- OMS
[09:03] {BillyD} lol
[09:03] {magoo} ok, blank
[09:03] {Threei} right
[09:07] {dino} uhal l .00
[09:11] {magoo} well that was a bust he hge
[09:12] {BillyD} I just entered order through OMS and it automatically sent it as live pending
[09:12] {magoo} t 7.86???
[09:12] {magoo} what u do?
[09:13] {magoo} mine sold it
[09:13] {Threei} you chose stop limit magoo?
[09:13] {magoo} vad, should i get rid of that methods window from old stop
[09:13] {BillyD} entered order to buy 100 zixi at 4 w/ stop limit at 4.01
[09:14] {BillyD} and it showed order live at 4.01
[09:14] {Threei} under price indicator
[09:14] {Threei} yeah, kill it
[09:14] {BillyD} I did
[09:14] {BillyD} confused though
[09:14] {magoo} no, vad on stop limit
[09:14] {magoo} ok on killing
[09:14] {Threei} then you simply send an order
[09:15] {Threei} instead of entering a stop
[09:15] {magoo} gotcha
[09:15] {magoo} and then that worked he he sigh
[09:15] {Threei} yes, lol
[09:16] {Threei} CTDC
[09:16] {Threei} maybe 6 break
[09:16] {Threei} not sure
[09:16] {Threei} anyone shorted NVDA near 32?
[09:17] {BillyD} yes ...cov'd at .93 before it went over 32
[09:17] {magoo} duh, vad, how i kill methods window?ctrl F$ no work
[09:18] {BillyD} and just realized somehow I was short again at .86 by accident and co'vd .83
[09:18] {BillyD} don't know how that happened
[09:18] {Threei} under View magoo
[09:18] {Threei} uncheck Method Bar
[09:18] {magoo} cool, ty
[09:18] {Threei} :)
[09:20] {BillyD} Vad...has Laserdave explained the OMS to you
[09:20] {Threei} no
[09:20] {Threei} he is lazy or ignores me
[09:20] {Threei} or both
[09:20] {BillyD} tough when no one cares
[09:21] {Threei} nah, I am used to it
[09:22] {Threei} if 6.01 melts on CTDC... worth a try
[09:25] {Threei} out .17
[09:25] {BillyD} nice
[09:26] {Threei} stupid trade... but worked nicely :)
[09:26] {BillyD} I got out at .09 truth be known because I couldn't believe I went in
[09:26] {BillyD} something pushed button
[09:27] {BillyD} before thinking at all
[09:27] {Threei} that something is a inuitive trader in you
[09:27] {Threei} then you came back and took over {G}
[09:27] {BillyD} it was like wait a minute.....do you remeber this stock
[09:28] {BillyD} yse
[09:28] {BillyD} yes
[09:28] {BillyD} gotta find the perfect baalance between the two
[09:29] {magoo} between "yse and yes"?
[09:29] {BillyD} lol
[09:29] {Threei} lol
[09:30] {BillyD} XMSR rebounds nicely considering downgrade this morning
[09:44] {Threei} TASR
[09:44] {Threei} 15 break long
[09:44] {Threei} if stays above .90
[09:45] {magoo} u in tivo?
[09:45] {magoo} that was my learning curve exit
[09:45] {Threei} never hit my stop
[09:45] {magoo} right
[09:46] {magoo} that was my oms exit
[09:46] {BillyD} so vad...did we figure out how OMS really works
[09:47] {BillyD} so it doesn't dend orders live
[09:47] {BillyD} send
[09:47] {Threei} it doesn't if you use Stop Limit
[09:47] {BillyD} that is what I used
[09:48] {Threei} I just entered it on TASR to trigger by 15.01
[09:48] {Threei} it's not sending it
[09:49] {BillyD} well...I must have a problem
[09:49] {magoo} we gionna need dave give a quick lesson on actually using it
[09:49] {magoo} and spelling course too
[09:50] {BillyD} i just enterd buy 100 zixi as stop limit order w/ price at 4 and stop limit 4.01.......hit start and shows as live pending
[09:50] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:51] {Threei} but of course
[09:51] {Threei} your trigger price is below actual
[09:51] {Threei} for buy stop it means it triggered
[09:51] {BillyD} so not for pullback buy then?
[09:52] {Threei} that's not how it works
[09:52] {Threei} for pullback you can simply enter buy
[09:52] {BillyD} ok
[09:52] {BillyD} jus don't slap me
[09:52] {Threei} buy stop means trigger is higher than current price
[09:52] * magoo slaps BillyD around a bit with a large trout
[09:53] {BillyD} I see now
[09:54] {BillyD} vad...on your TASR order....you have price at 15.01 as trigger and what was your buy stop limit?
[09:54] {Threei} I made them the same
[09:55] {Threei} not right way to do it
[09:55] {Threei} still experimenting
[09:55] {BillyD} ok
[09:55] {Threei} got just 100 shares fill
[09:55] {BillyD} thats all that were avaialble though from what T&S showed
[09:55] {Threei} yes but I'd rather overpay couple cents
[09:56] {BillyD} does it keep reamaning portion of order open?
[09:56] {magoo} i confused
[09:56] {Threei} yes until you cancel it
[09:56] {magoo} u using it to enter AND as a stop?
[09:56] {BillyD} ok
[09:56] {Threei} it's a buy stop magoo
[09:56] {Threei} to enter when trigger is hit
[09:57] {bruce} have to head out
[09:57] {bruce} see you all tomorrow
[09:57] {magoo} wait bruce
[09:57] * magoo slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[09:57] {bruce} good trading
[09:57] {magoo} there, ok
[09:57] {bruce} lol
[09:57] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:57] {bruce} thanks mags
[09:58] {magoo} HOKU
[09:58] {magoo} missed that
[10:02] {BillyD} HOKU got lit
[10:02] {magoo} entry?
[10:02] {BillyD} gonna watch for feel
[10:03] {magoo} i thought lit=it
[10:03] {magoo} ass in..IN
[10:03] {BillyD} oh
[10:04] {Threei} TASR 1:1
[10:04] {BillyD} good spot Vad....not in
[10:04] {magoo} u out vad?
[10:05] {Threei} lol, I have just 100 shares
[10:05] {Threei} with that experiemtn with OMS
[10:05] {BillyD} sell 1/2 1:1
[10:05] {Threei} lol
[10:05] {BillyD} stick w/ plan
[10:05] {magoo} and keep tight stop on balance he he
[10:05] {BillyD} I think that is in MPP
[10:06] {Threei} you two... :)
[10:09] {BillyD} solars edging up
[10:10] {BillyD} Vad...what do you mainly look for on dail charts
[10:10] {BillyD} y
[10:11] {Threei} just want to see where the stocks is, is there formation to us
[10:11] {Threei} support/resistance to use
[10:11] {BillyD} some charts have different levels of resistance/support every .20 it seems
[10:12] {Threei} OK, just experiemnted again with that little piece of TASR
[10:12] {Threei} Price is what triggers the order
[10:13] {Threei} Stop limit is how far you want to set it
[10:13] {BillyD} yes
[10:13] {Threei} so, to get TASR on entry, I had to set Price 15.01,
[10:13] {Threei} Stop Limit 15.03 let's say
[10:14] {Threei} also, don't forget to delete finished or stopped orders form OMS
[10:15] {Threei} they won't be canceled by blotter
[10:15] {BillyD} true..ty
[10:15] {Threei} OMS will re-enter them if you cancel from there
[10:16] {magoo} u can't just double click them off?
[10:16] {Threei} no, not the ones you entered through OMS
[10:16] {Threei} release notes mention that
[10:16] {magoo} how u canx those?
[10:16] {Threei} in that same OMS there are buttons for delete
[10:17] {Threei} if order is not finished, first click red square
[10:17] {Threei} to stop it
[10:17] {Threei} then click button Delete all stopped and finished orders
[10:18] {magoo} ok, if its gone from the oms window, its gone correct?
[10:18] {Threei} if it disappeared from there, yes
[10:19] {magoo} ok
[10:19] {Threei} just have a look in blotter to make sure, I haven't checked this
[10:19] {Threei} anyway, for those who need stops, they are here
[10:20] {magoo} the blotter window that hasa the green tri and red block, there correct?
[10:20] {BillyD} Vad...when will you Laser help video be coming out on OMS
[10:20] {Threei} there is also a possibility to program whole chain of orders... but that's beyond my understanding
[10:20] {Threei} no, blotter is one where you have all those pending, open etc
[10:21] {Threei} I'll leave it to a broker billy :)
[10:23] {BillyD} CSIQ near .50
[10:23] {magoo} sheesh, blotter says i short sold tivo
[10:23] {BillyD} still not wise on break Vad for CSIQ
[10:23] {magoo} but i had1k long, and it says sh sold 1k
[10:24] {magoo} so i out i guess
[10:24] {BillyD} look at your summary screen to show if in any position
[10:25] {magoo} not showing
[10:25] {BillyD} ok
[10:46] {BillyD} ,
[10:47] {magoo} ..
[10:48] {magoo} HIKU interesting
[10:48] {magoo} HOKU
[10:48] {Threei} CSIQ has a shot at its all time high
[10:48] {Threei} if not today then tomorrow
[10:48] {Threei} and overal, it looks much much higher to me
[10:48] {magoo} solar?
[10:49] {Threei} yes
[10:50] {Threei} ASTI too
[10:52] {BillyD} both so jumpy
[10:53] {BillyD} seems like fresher solars geting the action
[10:54] {dino} out layn ave .84, +.34
[11:02] {Chaeron} LaserDave see DCC please
[11:03] {Threei} better don't dave... every time I look chaeron's dcc I find nothing but obcenities
[11:03] {Threei} but then again... maybe he likes you better than he likes me
[11:04] {Chaeron} I'm an equal opportunity people hater Threei
[11:04] {Threei} good to hear :)
[11:04] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {magoo} SOLF vad
[11:05] {Chaeron} and you wonder why I am the way I am magoo :)
[11:05] {magoo} i do not wonder...
[11:05] {magoo} i know
[11:05] {Threei} lol
[11:06] {Threei} magoo, they are all momo movers with no technicals at this point
[11:06] {Chaeron} :) Bye all... have to jump early today... best of luck in all your trades
[11:24] {Threei} dumped TIVO in dusgust
[11:24] {Threei} disgust too
[11:24] {dino} powi
[11:24] {BillyD} RFLOL
[11:26] {BillyD} JMBA short maybe
[11:29] {Threei} CSIQ... if you want to try entry, 17.80 is support to watch
[11:29] {Threei} if loses it, can set stage for another of its infamous horrific setbacks
[11:33] {magoo} tasr and tivo always bone us vad
[11:33] {Threei} actually we got TASR pretty good while you were away
[11:33] {Threei} NVDA too
[11:35] {magoo} u asking for it lil' man :)
[11:37] {Threei} CSIQ... if takes .65, should go to 19 today
[11:38] {magoo} has the feel vad
[11:38] {magoo} in it
[11:38] {Threei} foam at the mouth, white eyes
[11:38] {BillyD} u gonna take it or in already
[11:39] {magoo} already .21
[11:39] {BillyD} very nice
[11:39] {Threei} ese will be happy about his swing from 14.50
[11:40] {dino} l layn again, .60
[11:45] {dino} rick
[11:47] {magoo} covered .50 here
[11:47] {magoo} may reload
[11:49] {Threei} finally
[11:49] {Threei} US SENATE APPROVES FREE TRADE DEAL WITH PERU, SENDS TO BUSH TO SIGN INTO LAW
[11:50] {Threei} GERN at yesterday high
[11:50] {Threei} not sure about this one
[11:51] {Threei} but if stays under it iot breaks tomorrow, I'll be a buyer
[11:51] {Threei} iot = and
[11:52] {Threei} just how crappy one's typing has to be to type and as iot
[11:57] {dino} layn stop is .96
[11:58] {BillyD} HOKU acts like might be something in it ......still not sure here
[11:58] {BillyD} any read Vad
[11:58] {magoo} solf back to top
[11:59] {dino} out .95 ave., +.35
[11:59] {Threei} just ramps up with the rest of solars billy
[11:59] {Threei} nice dino
[11:59] {Threei} you are back to former self
[11:59] {BillyD} so no technical off .60
[11:59] {dino} :), p.m. trader i guess
[11:59] {Threei} there is... if you want hindsight :)
[11:59] {dino} i should sleep in
[12:00] {Threei} lol
[12:01] {BillyD} hindight syas yes
[12:04] {BillyD} u take Gern vad or wait
[12:04] {Threei} no
[12:05] {BillyD} festiv day....good to see
[12:05] {Threei} SOLF new high
[12:05] {Threei} CSIQ pullback should be supported
[12:08] {Threei} out CAST balance .75
[12:08] {Threei} of course will go to 8 and higher now
[12:08] {BillyD} at least it was profitable
[12:11] {Threei} SOLF next round
[12:11] {Threei} jumpy
[12:11] {Threei} but seems to be able to lead CSIQ
[12:12] {Threei} FOLLOW UP: US ENERGY BILL TO INCLUDE $21B TAX PLAN BOOSTING RENEWABLE ENERGY
[12:12] {Threei} I wonder if this is what lit fire under solars today
[12:13] {BillyD} they throw Billions around like its nothing
[12:13] {Threei} yeah, why don't they throw couple our way
[12:14] {magoo} ebven just a measely couple million
[12:17] {BillyD} Vad...you playing CSIQ
[12:17] {Threei} if SOLF jumps again
[12:17] {Threei} CSIQ gives a delay for entry
[12:17] {BillyD} just under .40 so far is support
[12:17] {BillyD} don't know that counts
[12:18] {Threei} nope
[12:18] {Threei} in
[12:18] {magoo} IN
[12:18] {Threei} just need SOLF to go for real
[12:19] {Threei} if it does CSIQ will work
[12:19] {Threei} if not - fill in the blank
[12:19] {magoo} ironically, we should just buy SOLF
[12:19] {Threei} see both, following and little delay?
[12:19] {Threei} if you believe in it
[12:20] {magoo} waiting .91
[12:20] {Threei} I am simply trying to use it as leading indicator
[12:20] {BillyD} yes
[12:20] {Threei} come on SOLF,. break .25
[12:20] {magoo} OUT
[12:20] {magoo} TY
[12:20] {Threei} out too
[12:21] {Threei} SOLF pulled back, so use that same delay for exit :)
[12:21] {Threei} see advantages of my way? :)
[12:22] {BillyD} :)
[12:22] {Threei} more of a guess with SOLF, quiote readable following with CSIQ
[12:22] {magoo} absolutely...safer play
[12:22] {magoo} solf confirms
[12:22] {BillyD} CSIQ gonna be new leader now
[12:22] {Threei} it got a bit of additiohjnal fire by breaking its all time high billy
[12:23] {BillyD} yes...reason for my comment
[12:23] {Threei} CAST you $%*&#$ )(%^&$#@
[12:23] {Threei} I swear sometimes it's like they watch you :)
[12:24] {BillyD} sorry Vad.....but I couldn't keep from laughing
[12:24] {Threei} hehe
[12:24] {BillyD} a week for that one
[12:24] {Threei} what can I say... :)
[12:25] {Threei} I am still sure that I read it right,
[12:25] {Threei} and I managed even to profit from my read,
[12:25] {Threei} it's just so beyond my normal canvass
[12:25] {BillyD} yeah....I think it affected you into taking TIVO again
[12:26] {BillyD} TIVO was psycho one day and dead next
[12:26] {Threei} luckily we got it on its psycho day too so it's not complete waste
[12:26] {BillyD} yes
[12:26] {Threei} OK where is ese
[12:27] {Threei} he gets back from work, sees CSIQ above 19
[12:27] {BillyD} see if he shows up early tomorrow
[12:27] {Threei} screams of joy cover whole distance from Willows beach to patience's haouse
[12:28] {Threei} mine is a bit farher away so I am not rushing out to buy earplugs
[12:30] {Threei} but if CSIQ goes to 20 maybe I should
[12:30] {patience} i'll join in with ese, it has been a fantastic trading day for me..scalping currencies
[12:30] {Threei} :)
[12:31] {dino} natl
[12:31] {dino} gj patience
[12:31] {magoo} nice pat:)
[12:32] {patience} ty guys...i am pretty much sitting in cash but seem to be able to scalp currencies...ty vad for teaching me to scalp
[12:32] {patience} :)
[12:32] {Threei} wow... that's second week someone thanks me for something
[12:33] {dino} lol
[12:33] {Threei} Christmas or what
[12:37] {Threei} so, what solars haven;'t moved yet
[12:37] {Threei} DSTI I think
[12:37] {Threei} ESLR is still fairly low on the daily
[12:39] {BillyD} HOKU near 10
[12:41] {Threei} what a beautifyl day
[12:41] {Threei} TIVO was our only stop, right?
[12:41] {Threei} all 10 cents of it
[12:41] {BillyD} pretty much
[12:42] {Threei} btw guys, about OMS
[12:42] {Threei} if you prepared an order, started it,
[12:42] {Threei} then stock retreated from trigger
[12:42] {Threei} invalidating setup
[12:43] {Threei} but you suspect it could become valid again later
[12:43] {Threei} simply hit red square
[12:43] {Threei} not deleting the order
[12:43] {Threei} so it stays there and all you need is to click green triangle again to start it
[12:43] {BillyD} this may turn out to be decent tool
[12:43] {Threei} trying to find uses for it... :)
[12:44] {Threei} since I am not a big fun of atuomatic stops
[12:44] {BillyD} video?
[12:44] {Threei} no
[12:44] {BillyD} lol
[12:44] {Threei} :)
[12:44] {Threei} I am bold, overweght
[12:44] {Threei} and haven't actually looked good even before went bold and overweight
[12:44] {BillyD} Laser videos don't show person
[12:45] {BillyD} jsut screen and commentary
[12:46] {Threei} don't know billy... how to eplain then that aftre watching one of videos magoo started every day next week with dcc to me stating that he never saw anyone that ugly
[12:46] {Threei} so let me err on safe side
[12:46] {BillyD} put him on ignore
[12:46] {BillyD} block his dcc
[12:46] {Threei} I did... but he seems to know the way to get through
[12:47] {BillyD} he did say he was a computer geek now
[12:47] {Threei} see?
[12:47] {Threei} CAST!!!!
[12:47] {Threei} f..................
[12:47] {magoo} yeah...thats me allright..comp illiterate
[12:47] {BillyD} "they" were watching you
[12:48] {Threei} could there be any other explanation?
[12:48] {BillyD} [13:21] {Threei} CAST you $%*&#$ )(%^&$#@
[12:48] {BillyD} [13:21] {Threei} I swear sometimes it's like they watch you :)
[12:48] {magoo} SOLF selloff
[12:48] {magoo} look
[12:49] {Threei} I am interested
[12:49] {Threei} small shares
[12:49] {Threei} CAST
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[12:51] {dino} layn l hl .55, stop lod
[12:51] {Threei} in
[12:52] {Threei} stop under 25
[12:52] {magoo} entry?
[12:53] {Threei} .37
[12:53] {Threei} out
[12:53] {Threei} whew
[12:53] {Threei} wild trip
[12:55] {Threei} too soon
[12:55] {Threei} had full buck in it
[12:56] {Threei} I mean buck and half
[12:56] * Threei prepares "I mean 2 bucks"
[12:56] {BillyD} I couldn't determine a stop area
[12:56] {BillyD} never entered
[12:57] {magoo} my spot and never took..sigh
[12:59] {BillyD} wem missed CTDC
[13:01] {dino} out layn -.05
[13:02] {Threei} one morfe thing about OMS - you can modify existing order if entry conditions change
[13:02] {Threei} faster than making new one
[13:02] {Threei} Ok guys, with all the hoopla didn't notice the day is over :)
[13:02] {Threei} thank you all
[13:03] {Threei} hacve a great evening
[13:03] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:03] {BillyD} u 2 Vad
[13:03] {magoo} ty vad
[13:03] {Threei} oh btw
[13:03] {Threei} one in five canadians now is foreign born
[13:04] {Threei} (my bit of useless information for the day)
[13:04] {dino} the new melting pot
