Tuesday, January 15, 2008

January 15, 2008

Session Start: Tue Jan 15 00:00:00 2008

Session Time: Tue Jan 15 00:00:00 2008

[05:12] {Threei} 07:01am [DNDN] Receives European patent covering Provenge and Company's ACI platform technology
[05:23] {esemde} morning Vad
[05:23] {Threei} hi ese :)
[05:23] {esemde} up early like me i see
[05:24] {Threei} {whining session on} age... insomnia... {whining session off}
[05:24] {esemde} Maureen my VP siad that she she hve contact info for you hopefully today
[05:24] {esemde} for camosun
[05:24] {Threei} dcc? :)
[05:40] {Threei} yesterday ag heroes are not very happy
[05:40] {Threei} but could be just general gap down in the markets
[05:53] {cosmo} TLAB rumor: NOK possible buy out...
[05:55] {cosmo} 6.45 pre mkt high fwiw
[05:59] {cosmo} DNDN pre mkt high = 6.85 fwiw
[06:00] {cosmo} {...coffee pre mkt high fwiw
[06:02] {dino} gm all
[06:02] {Threei} dino :)
[06:02] {dptl} good morning all
[06:02] {Threei} dp :)
[06:02] {dino} :)
[06:04] {lumdus} good morning all
[06:05] {Threei} hi lum
[06:05] {esemde} lum
[06:07] {lumdus} i got one of those damm DTC margin calls. They by mistake dumped some stock in my account and fixed it .. but the margin call still stays.
[06:07] {Threei} wait for magoo to high-five you
[06:07] {lumdus} i keep on asking what to do, and they tell me no worry we take care
[06:08] {lumdus} yeah, but i made very good on the deal. On friday I shorted a stock then i covered for .05 profit.
[06:08] {lumdus} however, i bought it out of market (don't know what the heck that means)
[06:08] {lumdus} so 2 hours later i was back short that stock and the profit was + 1.75
[06:08] {lumdus} i was happy untill i saw this margin crap and asked what I do .. so far they sleeping on this.
[06:09] {Threei} wait
[06:09] {Threei} your cover was broken without you knowing it for 2 hours?
[06:09] {lumdus} yes, that is correct. They told me It was bought out of market
[06:09] {Threei} meaning, if stock went up big meanwhile, you would have stuck with big loss
[06:09] {Threei} and no recourse
[06:10] {lumdus} yes, exactly what they said.
[06:10] {Threei} that's a scary situation
[06:10] {lumdus} well you know who i am with .. might need to change if this is not normal.
[06:10] {esemde} hold on there bobalooey.......scary.....understatement....have they made that right...
[06:10] {Threei} if you sent your order as usual and got confirmation of a fill
[06:10] {lumdus} i'll tell you stock symbol
[06:10] {Threei} what do you care where they got the shares
[06:11] {esemde} who are you dealing with LUM?
[06:11] {lumdus} I don't care, they said that it's the rule
[06:11] {lumdus} i am dealing with MBT
[06:11] {esemde} what does that stand for
[06:12] {cosmo} MBT = TSATA flashbacks .... for me
[06:12] {lumdus} MB Trading..
[06:12] {Threei} rule that says you may find out later that your order was not actually filled despite confirmation, and you have open position unknowingly?
[06:12] {Threei} because of some internal mechanics of theirs?
[06:12] {esemde} I thought that they were a reputable firm....
[06:12] {lumdus} yes, that is what they told me. I didn't fight it since I made good money on it.
[06:13] {Threei} what can I say...
[06:13] {lumdus} they said it was their mechanics .. it was some fcc stuff.. I don't even understand this crap
[06:13] {Threei} you won't be as forgiving if such thing happens against you, that's for sure
[06:13] {lumdus} right.
[06:14] {lumdus} the symbol was penn
[06:14] {Threei} and I gotta tell you
[06:14] {Threei} in 11 + years of trading I've never heard of this
[06:14] {Threei} fill is a fill
[06:14] {Threei} NASDAQ breaking the trades is the only legit reason
[06:14] {Threei} that may leave you with involuntary open position
[06:15] {lumdus} this is what they told me.
[06:15] {esemde} call or send NASDAQ an email....
[06:15] {lumdus} ese, right now i am happy with the money. I need the margin call gone.
[06:16] {lumdus} even if i have to wire the money in it's worth it, it's more then a 20% gain for me
[06:16] {lumdus} when magoo comes he'll high five me and tell me his horror stories.
[06:16] {Threei} yours is a horror story lum
[06:17] {Threei} no control over trade outcome with no fault of yours is a horror story
[06:17] {esemde} indeed
[06:17] {dino} 1 million + margin call a week or so ago, w/magoo
[06:18] {lumdus} my call is only 10K.
[06:18] {esemde} holly crap.........can i say that on this board holly crap...
[06:18] {BillyD} mornignRT
[06:18] {cosmo} CLWR: Clearwire and Google Collaborate to Offer Search and Communications Tools
[06:18] {cosmo} Business Wire (Tue 9:00am)
[06:19] {cosmo} 16 spike...
[06:20] {magoo} morning
[06:21] {esemde} magoo
[06:21] {dino} gotta hop, back in 30
[06:22] {Threei} billy, magoo :)
[06:22] {esemde} morning billy ...sorry missed ya there
[06:22] {BillyD} ese :)
[06:23] {Threei} OPEC SECRETARY GENERAL: RECESSION IS NOT IN OPEC'S INTERESTS
[06:23] {Threei} wow
[06:23] {cosmo} .. but its not off the table either
[06:24] {Threei} be back in 5
[06:29] {Threei} back... world is still intact I see
[06:29] {lumdus} my account fixed. tk goodnes
[06:31] {Threei} CLWR news looks quite fluffy to me
[06:31] {Threei} unless there os some deeper meaning to it
[06:31] {cosmo} checking
[06:32] {Threei} non-shortable anyway
[06:32] {magoo} my entire watch list red
[06:33] {Threei} Bloomberg says 4 q of 2007 maybe worse earning season since great depression
[06:33] {Threei} worst
[06:33] {lumdus} surprised that C is not down more . I though I can get it for 20.00 today
[06:34] {magoo} might be pricedinb vad
[06:34] {magoo} priced
[06:37] {Threei} BIDZ, small shares long if 11 gets hit
[06:37] {Roman} watching COIN
[06:37] {Threei} stop under 10.80
[06:39] {Roman} DNDN
[06:40] {Roman} SOLF short watch
[06:43] {Roman} GOLD short watch
[06:45] {BillyD} out bidz avg +.24 thx Vad
[06:45] {Threei} welcome
[06:46] {dptl} same here ty
[06:47] {lumdus} esrx long strong i think
[06:47] {bruce} 1/2 out bidz .27
[06:48] {Roman} COIN high
[06:48] {bruce} out balance .43
[06:48] {bruce} thanx vad
[06:48] {BillyD} nice bruce
[06:48] {Threei} :)
[06:49] {bruce} lucky billy
[06:49] {bruce} good call vad
[06:49] {bruce} it had double top at .50 already so not something I would have recognized as good long candidate
[06:52] {BillyD} SEED ready to go one way or another her imo
[06:54] {bruce} hibb possible long vad?
[06:55] {Threei} not my kind... no idea
[06:55] {bruce} k
[06:59] {dino} vign s .50, vchg l .11
[06:59] {dino} vcgh
[06:59] {dino} vcgh stop .98
[06:59] {bruce} pcln dino
[07:00] {dino} vign at hod
[07:00] {Threei} *NOV BUSINESS INVENTORIES: 0.4 % V 0.4%E
[07:01] {dino} strange
[07:01] {bruce} .85 stop for vign dino?
[07:02] {BillyD} Vad, doe sit feel at all like the mkt is in quiet before the storm so to speak to capitulate....just sense something different
[07:03] {dino} y
[07:03] {dino} i'm finally hearing friends complaining about market, so must be getting bad
[07:04] {cosmo} bad for shorts, maybe
[07:04] {Threei} I wouldn't call it quiet
[07:04] {Threei} quite a turbulence
[07:05] {dino} bad for shorts?
[07:05] {cosmo} ...if it bottoms...
[07:05] {dino} oh
[07:06] {dino} -200 again patience?
[07:06] {bruce} edu dumping dino - misssed the short in it
[07:06] {Threei} NVDA .25 short if stays below .40
[07:08] {dino} vcgh stopped slippage -.20
[07:09] {dino} edu earnings, but no est. to compare w/
[07:09] {patience} not sure dino, i just sold my sds i picked up before close last night, i'm moving back to cash
[07:10] {dino} ty
[07:10] {dino} feels like -200+ coming
[07:11] {patience} i am expecting a good size correction but see it as an opportunity
[07:11] {dino} notice, i've been going long more than short lately, capits are working
[07:12] {patience} it has been great month for me, i just wish i had your skill shorting
[07:12] {magoo} back, nvda trigger yet?
[07:12] {Threei} it got invalidated
[07:12] {magoo} computer tech guy was here trying to fix some issues
[07:13] {dino} the issues are in your head magoo
[07:13] {BillyD} lol
[07:13] {dino} waiting for edu at 65.40 bruce
[07:13] {dino} sm
[07:14] {dino} missed
[07:14] {dino} took .60
[07:16] {dino} out 66.60, +1.00
[07:17] {dino} too soon
[07:17] {bruce} great timing dino
[07:17] {dino} lucky
[07:20] {bruce} rmbs short candidagte vad?
[07:20] {dino} darn vign won't move
[07:20] {Threei} questionable volume and no real following bruce
[07:20] {bruce} yes - noticed that
[07:21] {bruce} k - thanx vad
[07:21] {dino} spwr wants 100 strike
[07:27] {lumdus} we watching anything specific ?
[07:27] {dino} gme l .25, stop .97
[07:27] {cosmo} ANSV
[07:27] {dino} too soon
[07:29] {dino} vign stopped -.33
[07:31] {bruce} l gme .09
[07:32] {lumdus} coin ?
[07:35] {dino} meli sm l .51
[07:36] {magoo} ugly out there.....sigh..again
[07:36] {bruce} meli stop dino?
[07:38] {Threei} COIN looks explosive but it moves onb market bounces only
[07:38] {magoo} take the ball vad..i go whicha
[07:40] {Threei} NVDA just had to ruin setup before triggering, didn't it
[07:40] {magoo} lppking at nvda as a bounce if mkts bounce
[07:40] {magoo} looking
[07:42] {Threei} use this offer on COIN as indication for entry
[07:42] {dino} gme stopped -.28
[07:42] {Threei} 12.90 I mean
[07:42] {Threei} if it's taken
[07:42] {dino} edu holding up
[07:42] {bruce} stopped gme
[07:42] {patience} 200 dino
[07:43] {bruce} -.19 for me dino - my stop idn't fire
[07:43] {lumdus} coin long or short ?
[07:44] {magoo} careful lum
[07:44] {magoo} very dangerous
[07:44] {magoo} but long if IF eats .90
[07:44] {lumdus} hmm, i see the damm coin trade. not my taste now
[07:44] {lumdus} i'd rather more easier ones
[07:45] {Threei} lol
[07:45] {Threei} you asked about it
[07:45] {Threei} I answered
[07:45] {magoo} :)
[07:45] {bruce} what ever happened to trend trades vad?
[07:45] {magoo} thats right, it was your ? lum
[07:45] {dino} gme fast drop
[07:46] {lumdus} yes, i know. but after magood showed me the problem i chicken out. nothing wrong with that
[07:46] {bruce} you know - the ones with small pullbacks narrow spread and nice runs?
[07:46] {bruce} we almost never see them
[07:46] {Threei} those are in short supply when market emotions run high
[07:46] {bruce} glad I'm out dino - was a quick drop
[07:47] {Threei} DNDN high
[07:47] {dino} yeah, another one and i re-enter
[07:47] {bruce} k - give entry and stop for it dino
[07:48] {magoo} hate DNDN ..just my thoughts'
[07:48] {dino} 50.30ish
[07:48] {Threei} me too
[07:48] {Threei} used to be hot player
[07:48] {dino} stop .90
[07:49] {dino} if it gets there
[07:49] {dino} i like edu better tho
[07:49] {magoo} i remember vad, several days straight up into 20's
[07:49] {magoo} but no more
[07:49] {bruce} thanx dino
[07:52] {bruce} we may be getting a higher how in edu here
[07:52] {dino} y off of 68
[07:55] {magoo} if QQQ turns up hard, i like aapl for bounce..small shares as in say 300
[07:56] {magoo} risky..fast
[07:56] {magoo} not in
[07:57] {Threei} NVDA worth a try long with .49 stop
[07:58] {dino} edu l 67.10 sm, wide
[07:59] {magoo} u take nvda vad? i just did
[07:59] {Threei} yes, .62
[07:59] {bruce} edu still looks short to me dino
[07:59] {magoo} .64
[08:00] {magoo} we need a major naz bar up
[08:00] {lumdus} what makes you guess we will get one ?
[08:01] {magoo} just a feel from 7 solid yrs of staring at screen
[08:01] {dptl} out nvda+.13 ty
[08:01] {Threei} half out .83
[08:01] {lumdus} cool
[08:01] {lumdus} tx magoo
[08:01] {Threei} welcome dp
[08:01] {Threei} stop to .59
[08:03] {Threei} half out COIN 13.13
[08:06] {bruce} grmn long here vad?
[08:06] {Threei} tough read...
[08:07] {Threei} nvda
[08:07] {Threei} stop to .65
[08:08] {Threei} out COIN in full .36
[08:09] {magoo} beauty
[08:09] {Threei} ah thank you... noone called me that
[08:12] {lumdus} and i was too scared to take coin .. crap
[08:13] {Threei} out NVDA in full .97
[08:13] {BillyD} gj Vad
[08:13] {Threei} ty
[08:14] {dino} nice
[08:15] {Threei} ah come on dino... both are under .60 profit, thus qualified as horrible trades
[08:17] {Threei} I like this new definition
[08:18] {esemde} have a great everyone......gotta go
[08:18] {Threei} take care ese :)
[08:19] {Threei} MATR HALTED, NEWS PENDING
[08:19] {bruce} mgm dino
[08:20] {dino} out meli .30, +.79
[08:20] {Threei} not horrible at all
[08:20] {dino} out edu 68.50, +1.40
[08:20] {Threei} twice not horrible
[08:21] {dino} no takers i see
[08:22] {Threei} we picked nice time to exit both NVDA and COIN
[08:23] {Threei} mags
[08:23] {magoo} yeah?
[08:23] {Threei} isn't it amazing how intuition built up on years of trading works
[08:23] {dino} lndc
[08:24] {bruce} stp dino
[08:24] {Threei} there was not much in charts to call bounce,
[08:24] {Threei} market dropped more several times today in the same chart formation
[08:24] {Threei} but this time bounce just felt right
[08:24] {bruce} agreed vad - I didn't see any direction in nvda either way
[08:24] {magoo} subliminal vad
[08:24] {dino} stp watch oih
[08:25] {Threei} one thing to keep in mind about that particular trade bruce
[08:25] {Threei} it wasn't based on NVDA own chart
[08:25] {Threei} two things combined made it a valid trade:
[08:25] {Threei} 1. stron feeling of overall market bounce
[08:25] {Threei} and most important, 2:
[08:26] {Threei} very small risk as it was close to singificant support
[08:26] {dino} bruce, watch oih along w/stp, spwr, fslr
[08:26] {Threei} allowing for a very tight stop
[08:26] {Threei} you can call it risk-based setup, asupported by likely market reversal
[08:26] {dino} soon
[08:26] {bruce} got you - see the support on daily now for nvda- had overlooked it
[08:27] {dino} i suck at nvda, so not watching it
[08:27] {Threei} it changes its ways dino
[08:27] {bruce} lol - moves not big enough for your taste dino
[08:27] {Threei} readable some days, total crapshoot others
[08:29] {dino} no matter, just had enough of its pain in the past
[08:30] {Threei} yup, no read - no play
[08:30] {Threei} "no shoes, no shirt"....
[08:31] {dino} righttttt, easier ones for my screwed up mind
[08:31] {Threei} lol
[08:31] {lumdus} same here dino
[08:31] {Threei} funniest thing is, those you call easier ones would be dismissed by majority of traders off hand
[08:31] {lumdus} short klac 42.
[08:31] {dino} great minds think alike, huh lumdus
[08:31] {Threei} as absolutely untradeable
[08:32] {dino} crowd theory vad
[08:32] {Threei} eqaktly
[08:32] {lumdus} huh hu .. common klac
[08:32] {Threei} +z
[08:32] {dino} no on klac
[08:33] {dino} maybe wants -300 today patience
[08:33] {dino} i am waiting, no trades on
[08:33] {lumdus} 1/2 out klac
[08:33] {Threei} none here either
[08:34] {Threei} 3 for 3 so far, going to remain very picky
[08:34] {dino} 3 misses, 4 wins, but over daily
[08:34] {lumdus} ok, i stay picky with youyt. but klac i read it from my teaching of you 3i.. so i took it.
[08:34] {Threei} on days when emotions are that high I tend to avoid "garden variety" trades
[08:34] {lumdus} garden variety .. hmm what is that ?
[08:35] {Threei} standard setups
[08:35] {Threei} ordinary trades that on ordinary day I could do in dosens
[08:35] {Threei} dozens?
[08:35] {lumdus} ok
[08:36] {Threei} MATR ANNOUNCES PURSUIT OF STARTEGIC ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING POSSIBLE SALE OF COMPANY- will not release guidance due to advanced stage fo initiatives
[08:36] {dino} and lum, don't pay attn to me, as i don't trade vads'. the great minds was a comment on not playing nvda
[08:37] {dino} matr, thats conforting, won't release, lol
[08:38] {Threei} "we are nehgotiating sale of the company and scared out of our mind that if we release guidance, that's where all the negotiations end"
[08:40] {dino} indeed
[08:40] {bruce} rmbs at double bottom
[08:40] {bruce} no ead on direction
[08:40] {dino} hey, remember that talk about not seeing a dividend cut, lol on citigroup, same thing a week ago, cuts in half today
[08:43] {BillyD} lost quotes??
[08:43] {magoo} good here
[08:44] {dino} what do you need?
[08:46] {Threei} Client exiting: BillyD (RealityTra@XXXXX.ph.ph.cox.net) [Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)]
[08:46] {dino} spwr 100
[08:46] {Threei} looks like his whole connection went out
[08:47] {magoo} aapl bounce vad?
[08:47] {Threei} still has room down it feels
[08:47] {BillyD} yes, back for now
[08:48] {Threei} got quotes billy?
[08:48] {BillyD} not really...it is my ISP
[08:49] {Threei} yeah
[08:49] {dptl} fine here
[08:49] {BillyD} gonna reboot modem, brb
[08:49] {Threei} AAPL
[08:49] {Threei} REMINDER: STEVE JOBS KEYNOTE ADDRESS AT MACWORLD EXPO SLATED TO BEGIN AT NOON ET- analysts are expecting introduction of an 'ultra-mini' portable computer, and possibly a video rental service as well as an software update for the iPhone.
[08:50] {Threei} no new low on this NQ drop
[08:50] {dino} edu fast fall
[08:50] {Threei} probably bounce in cards now
[08:50] {dino} edu l trig .50 sm
[08:51] {Threei} grabbed it mags?
[08:51] {magoo} missed
[08:51] {Threei} should give one more pullback
[08:52] {Threei} here it is
[08:52] {magoo} in .52
[08:53] {Threei} beautiful timing
[08:53] * dptl slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:55] {dptl} dell?
[08:55] {Threei} I am out above 174.40
[08:55] {Threei} sorry, 174.40
[08:55] {Threei} not above
[08:55] {Threei} and you beat me on entry by 8 cents
[08:56] {Threei} I hate DELL dp
[08:56] {Threei} it's a MSFT/INTC twin
[08:56] {Threei} rarely tradeable
[08:56] {dptl} i see
[08:57] {Threei} bruce... that was first not horrible trade by me on AAPL... +.80
[08:57] {magoo} out .49 here
[08:57] {Threei} wtg
[08:58] {bruce} nice- treid to get it but moved too fast on me
[08:58] {dptl} gj magoo
[08:58] {magoo} ty, nice pullbk call
[08:58] {dino} l frx .59
[08:58] {dino} gj magoo
[08:59] {BillyD} bac, see I missed a good one
[08:59] {BillyD} k
[08:59] {Threei} sorry billy
[09:00] {BillyD} it's ok, I know it's no longer they but you guys ....lol
[09:02] {bruce} frx stop?
[09:02] {bruce} .20 or so dino?
[09:04] {magoo} can jobs turnm it rgreen wqith naz help is the qurestion?
[09:05] {dino} give it room bruce, great report, beat by .21
[09:05] {bruce} k
[09:06] {dino} let me re-state bruce, keep your stop, i am giving it room
[09:08] {bruce} k - thanx
[09:08] {magoo} long nvda .55
[09:09] {dino} oih spike
[09:09] {dino} darn partial fill meli l .06
[09:10] {dino} spwr 101
[09:10] {dino} smallll
[09:14] {bruce} edu - another dive down dino
[09:14] {dino} watching it, feels like 60 coming
[09:17] {Threei} what's with FRPT?
[09:17] {Threei} I see no news
[09:17] {magoo} dunno
[09:19] {magoo} out -.05
[09:19] {magoo} naz dump
[09:20] {dino} out spwr .60, -.40, small
[09:22] {dino} brutal
[09:23] {Threei} AAPl is crazy
[09:24] {dino} frx working bruce
[09:24] {BillyD} SCON
[09:24] {bruce} yes dino
[09:25] {magoo} aapl really flying
[09:25] {magoo} unusal speed
[09:25] {bruce} do you check news before puttingon trades dino?
[09:27] {magoo} cramer says we IN the recession now
[09:27] {dino} 90% of time yes
[09:27] {dino} cyber, realmoney & yahoo
[09:27] {magoo} checks dart board ..i know
[09:27] {dino} just a click away
[09:28] {bruce} k - so you are checking to see there is no reported news disaster before entering a long in a big drop?
[09:28] {dino} yes
[09:29] {dino} we have time, my bids are usually way below
[09:29] {bruce} makes sense
[09:29] {bruce} thnx
[09:29] {bruce} are those subscriptions services?
[09:30] {dino} only realmoney...cyber/streetsmart pro is schwab
[09:30] {dino} however, the street .com real good news source too, imo
[09:31] {bruce} k - why use 3 - and they give diferent info?
[09:31] {magoo} aapol vad
[09:31] {magoo} look
[09:32] {dino} cyber is my trading acct., so right there, others because sometimes they are late.
[09:32] {bruce} have heard of the street - but not looked at it
[09:32] {bruce} k- figured so
[09:33] {bruce} edu pausing
[09:34] {Threei} SCON is toothache in the heart... looked at it around 5.20 and decided against it
[09:34] {BillyD} Iknow vad, it seem it doesn't follow thru so pass on it
[09:38] {magoo} holy crap..whjat chuck jobs do on stage..shit himself??
[09:38] {dino} lol
[09:38] {dino} end of the world as we know it magoo
[09:39] {dino} gme holding lod
[09:39] {magoo} not until weekend dino..then end
[09:40] {Threei} you promise?
[09:40] {bruce} feels like another market downdraft coming
[09:40] {magoo} oh yeah vad
[09:40] {Threei} I really have several things to finish before weekend is over if so
[09:40] {magoo} better hurry
[09:40] {magoo} although...won't matter
[09:41] {Threei} tough to do, one of them involves travel
[09:41] {Threei} in order to tell sir greenspan what I really think of him
[09:41] {magoo} nvda vad..really held well there
[09:42] {Threei} sure did
[09:42] {Threei} just want to see pronounced market recovery starting before jumping on it
[09:42] {magoo} nvda must have a nuclear shelter
[09:42] {Threei} we had too many lukewarm attempts
[09:42] {magoo} not worried about end
[09:43] {Threei} maybe it's just stupid?
[09:43] {magoo} stupid is as stupid does forest
[09:44] {magoo} i like it .38
[09:44] {magoo} stop .24
[09:44] {magoo} in
[09:46] {BillyD} SCON has way of rubbing it in Vad
[09:46] {Threei} no kidding
[09:47] {magoo} out
[09:47] {magoo} +.03 lol
[09:47] {Threei} why?
[09:47] {Threei} it held well
[09:47] {magoo} do not like naz here
[09:47] {magoo} stalking
[09:49] {dptl} ,50 nvda?
[09:50] {Threei} .39 stop
[09:52] {dptl} in .52
[09:53] {Threei} dear SCON,
[09:54] {Threei} please accept this as an acknowldgement of sincere hate
[10:00] {bruce} wow- edu dino
[10:02] {dino} y
[10:02] {dino} scor
[10:03] {Threei} should work now, dp
[10:03] {Threei} NQ shows some determination finally
[10:03] {dptl} offering .65
[10:03] {Threei} wtg
[10:04] {dptl} out ty
[10:04] {magoo} nice
[10:04] {Threei} now that it's over, if I may
[10:04] {Threei} I didn't particularly like your entry
[10:04] {Threei} see, the way NVDA trades
[10:05] {Threei} when there is no clean direction in NQ yet and you go for kind of anticipatory trade
[10:05] {Threei} NVDA tends to do several quick telepotrations up and down
[10:05] {Threei} usually not violating support yet
[10:05] {Threei} but coming fairly close to it
[10:05] {Threei} and this is the best moment to grab it if you want to be in aggressively
[10:06] {Threei} this way you won't have to endure those torturing moves
[10:06] {Threei} plus tighter stop and bigger potentil on profit side as icing on a cake
[10:06] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:06] {Threei} noticed how after your entry it gave .44 - .45 chance couple times?
[10:08] {dptl} yes you right.....as close to stop point would be much better and easier to handle
[10:08] {dptl} i see the point
[10:08] {magoo} uh vad..lil help
[10:10] {magoo} vadddddd
[10:10] {Threei} ?
[10:10] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:10] {Threei} ah
[10:11] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:11] {dptl} lol
[10:23] {dino} frx stop to flat bruce
[10:26] {dino} out frx .73, +.14
[10:31] {Threei} whew... COIN finally lost support and stopped torturing me with this illusion of new run coming
[10:33] {Threei} NVDA holding above .50 on this NQ drop is shaping for another play
[10:34] {magoo} 169 area good aapl bottom vad?
[10:35] {Threei} doesn't feel good to me...
[10:35] {magoo} whats a good nvda long entry?
[10:35] {Threei} as close to .50 as it allows
[10:36] {Threei} but as usual, not on price alone
[10:37] {dino} risky, l scor .31
[10:38] {BillyD} now if we could get NVDA to dip in .50's
[10:39] {BillyD} probably too late
[10:39] {Threei} not sure
[10:39] {Threei} one more pullback NQ is probably coming
[10:39] {Threei} if not, oh well
[10:40] {Threei} just let it be
[10:40] {Threei} here is pullback NQ
[10:40] {Threei} watch how NVDA is handling it
[10:40] {Threei} if not coming in, take half lot on NQ reversal
[10:42] {Threei} AAPL mags
[10:43] {magoo} yeah??
[10:43] {dino} clms
[10:43] {Threei} interesting now
[10:43] {magoo} needs naz help
[10:44] {Threei} good panic
[10:45] {magoo} make the call
[10:45] {magoo} i'll go with u
[10:45] {magoo} need naz bounce
[10:45] {magoo} first
[10:45] {Threei} 166.50
[10:46] {Threei} or below
[10:46] {magoo} lower vad
[10:46] {Threei} but not above
[10:46] {magoo} 165.50 possible
[10:46] {Threei} 166.50finger on a trigger
[10:47] {Threei} oops
[10:47] {Threei} finger on a trigger
[10:47] {dino} scor stopped -.55 sm
[10:47] {Threei} NVDA says "whatever, I am done dropping"
[10:47] {BillyD} yeah, amazing
[10:48] {bruce} crash and burn day
[10:48] {Threei} bounce time
[10:48] {bruce} scor here dino?
[10:49] {magoo} u in?
[10:49] {magoo} i scalped already
[10:49] {Threei} idiot I am, tried for 165.30
[10:49] {magoo} too fast ,in .11 out .56
[10:49] {Threei} missed
[10:50] {magoo} lets try aghain
[10:50] {bruce} wow - your165.50 was within 9c of bottom vad
[10:51] {magoo} EXCUSE ME
[10:51] {Threei} magoo's
[10:51] {magoo} [13:46] {magoo} 165.50 possible
[10:51] {magoo} [13:47] {Threei} 166.50finger on a trigger
[10:51] {magoo} [13:47] {Threei} oops
[10:51] {magoo} he he
[10:51] {bruce} oops
[10:52] {bruce} so sory mags
[10:52] * magoo slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[10:52] {bruce} I deserved that
[10:52] {BillyD} Vad, NVDA no partake in bounce and now pulls back...a little confusing to me
[10:53] {Threei} it's confusing to everyone including itself
[10:53] {BillyD} lol
[10:53] {Threei} took .54
[10:53] {Threei} 5 cents stop
[10:53] {Threei} can I handle such risk?
[10:53] {magoo} patience said 300 down...might be
[10:54] {magoo} i can not vad
[10:54] {Threei} can I manage such loss?
[10:54] {magoo} i can not
[10:54] {Threei} can I live with such grief?
[10:54] {magoo} i can not
[10:54] {Threei} I will suffer alone then...
[10:55] {Threei} there... suffering mode is on
[10:55] {magoo} is it me or has the entire 08 trading year been tough everyday?
[10:55] {patience} its you magoosky
[10:55] {magoo} not saying losing, just tough to get feel
[10:55] {bruce} thats my story mags
[10:55] {Threei} yeah, we all walk the rose passage
[10:55] {bruce} and I'm sticking too it
[10:56] {magoo} now i confused
[10:56] {Threei} ok ok NVDA, I got it
[10:56] {Threei} you are in "me so confused" mode
[10:57] {magoo} u just loaded nvda?
[10:57] {Threei} .54
[10:57] {magoo} play 10k and dump for .06 cents
[11:01] {Threei} market just can't raise its head
[11:01] {dptl} stopped nvda
[11:01] {BillyD} I took NVDA .53 stopped .47,.46
[11:05] {magoo} feels like capitulation
[11:05] {BillyD} VVTV
[11:05] {magoo} throwing in the diaper,er um, towel
[11:05] {lumdus} in rimm 90.89 sto .69
[11:07] {lumdus} stop .83 i think
[11:09] {dino} nyx l .00, stop .69
[11:09] {lumdus} out rim + .40
[11:10] {dino} gj
[11:10] {lumdus} tx dino
[11:10] {magoo} diaper change Lum?
[11:10] {lumdus} huh ?
[11:10] {magoo} explaine vad
[11:11] {Threei} why would I
[11:11] {magoo} why not?
[11:17] {dino} out nyx .30, +.30
[11:17] {bruce} congrats dino
[11:18] {dino} thx
[11:18] {lumdus} nice dino
[11:19] {Threei} SOMX?
[11:19] {BillyD} SCON maybe
[11:20] {dino} somx
[11:23] {dino} no news that i see, sm s .73
[11:37] {magoo} .
[11:38] {BillyD} ?
[11:38] {dino} ba new delays 787
[11:41] {Threei} SCON, I am crying
[11:41] {BillyD} you me and the skinny lady
[11:44] {dino} somx bstop to .62
[11:45] {BillyD} maybe it's short on SCON but there is aare buyers
[11:45] {BillyD} shorts
[11:45] {magoo} no guts no glory vad {i guess}
[11:46] {BillyD} very true magoo
[11:46] {Threei} yes but no brains part worked nicely for me before
[11:46] {magoo} because u a natural
[11:46] {magoo} lol
[11:46] {Threei} and this time just failed miserably
[11:46] {magoo} we in anything, i was on phone
[11:46] {magoo} business
[11:48] {magoo} hello?
[11:49] {Threei} yes
[11:49] {Threei} we are in coma
[11:49] {magoo} symbol?coma not coming up
[11:50] {Threei} CM
[11:50] {Threei} or CMA
[11:50] {BillyD} or COMA
[11:50] {BillyD} we are bored
[11:51] {dino} somx bstop to .49
[11:52] {dino} stopped ave .51, +.22
[11:52] {magoo} vad, u usually have a feel...mkt tank or bounce strong into bell?
[11:52] {Threei} no feel
[11:53] {Threei} if I absolutely had to, I would pick down
[11:53] {Threei} but with odds like 51:49
[11:54] {dino} going for -300, then bounce 50 or 70
[11:55] {Threei} IDIX
[11:56] {Threei} another one of those crawlers
[11:56] {Threei} at no point in the day you can tell it's a safe entrey here... then at the end of the day you look and think, sheesh, where was I
[11:57] {BillyD} afterwards it looks like it ewas such a sure thing
[11:57] {Threei} AAPL CEO JOBS SAYS SPECULATION OF CHINA MOBILE TALKS FALSE
[11:57] {BillyD} definitely a Roman type
[12:01] {Threei} IDIX daily has no resistance up to 5.60
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {BillyD} you play as daytrade because pullback could be to low 4'sor small swing
[12:03] {BillyD} due to it's pace
[12:04] {Threei} 51 overweighs 49 so far
[12:07] {lumdus} i am looking for a stock to go up now. help me find a good one :)
[12:08] {Threei} may I interest you in little BXMNF?
[12:09] {lumdus} ok, in bxmnf 950.07 thank you.
[12:09] {Threei} just never mind chief geologist bodies dropping out of choppers
[12:09] {dino} somx again
[12:10] {bruce} whatabout some barf?
[12:10] {bruce} barf is always good on a yr like this
[12:12] {dino} aapl lod
[12:13] {lumdus} wondering hoe low can we go.
[12:14] {bruce} we3're see a lot of trending red days dino
[12:14] {dino} nyx l .95
[12:14] {bruce} must be some way to catch that trend
[12:15] {lumdus} bruce, i am trying hard to figure it out. so far no luck
[12:15] {dino} i'm not a trend trader guys, you know that. i'm contrarian
[12:16] {lumdus} ok, dino so what do we go long on now
[12:16] {dino} see above
[12:17] {lumdus} we in stale mate now. I need to see something happening either way
[12:18] {bruce} nyx stop .50 or so?
[12:18] {dino} yes
[12:18] {bruce} k
[12:19] {magoo} 283 down
[12:20] {Threei} ALLI
[12:21] {Threei} what woodwork are those coming from
[12:25] {magoo} poering up here
[12:28] {dino} ?
[12:28] {Threei} IDIC breaking
[12:28] {Threei} IDIX
[12:28] {bruce} wotht try long vad?
[12:28] {dino} had the call -300 then +50-70\
[12:28] {Threei} nailed it right dino
[12:28] {dino} on your own w/nyx
[12:28] {bruce} well done dino
[12:29] {Threei} bruce, just letting know for thosde who can read/trade this k,ind
[12:29] {bruce} k
[12:29] {dino} around the -280--300 seems to be the max lately
[12:30] {magoo} nice dinooooooooo
[12:30] {dino} ty bruce
[12:32] {magoo} damn..missed nvda
[12:32] {magoo} anyone get that}?
[12:33] {Threei} yes... but I bought all those shares all the way up... now I am scared to sell, not sure there is anyone to buy them
[12:38] {dino} out nyx .70, +.75
[12:40] {magoo} nice hit
[12:40] {patience} very nice dino
[12:40] {magoo} not horrible
[12:40] {dino} thx patience
[12:41] {dino} enoc blood
[12:50] {dino} sats
[12:53] {dino} edu coming back
[12:53] {Threei} ETFC fast drop
[12:53] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:54] {magoo} not much time vad'
[12:54] {Threei} no
[12:54] {Threei} wouldn't go for it anyway
[12:54] {Threei} dog with fleas
[12:54] {Threei} barks sheepishly and at the wrong trees
[12:55] {magoo} eats its own poo poo
[12:55] {Threei} and sheds a lot of fur
[12:55] {magoo} chews furniture
[12:55] {Threei} and neighbors
[12:55] {Threei} which actually is not a necessary bad thing
[12:56] {Threei} SCON buying into close
[12:56] {BillyD} VAD, ETFC come up on your Capitulation alert window?
[12:56] {magoo} except whren i move next to u
[12:57] {Threei} no, on one of other windows
[12:57] {Threei} I have 14 running
[12:57] {BillyD} ok, thx
[12:57] {BillyD} you a machine
[12:58] {Threei} only when I wake up
[12:58] {Threei} which doesn't happen often
[12:59] {lumdus} stop on scon ?
[12:59] {Threei} 2 min till close?
[12:59] {lumdus} ho, out
[12:59] {lumdus} +.22 tx
[12:59] {Threei} unless you intend to carry it overnifght, jjust get out
[12:59] {lumdus} i didn't realize the damm time
[12:59] {Threei} lol
[12:59] {lumdus} i got .69 that was good
[13:00] {Threei} thank you all
[13:00] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[13:00] {dptl} have a good evening all
[13:00] {lumdus} yeah, if i carry anything over night i most propably get 10 margin calls.
[13:00] {BillyD} u 2
[13:00] {BillyD} bye all
[13:00] {lumdus} you too 3i
[13:00] {magoo} u in tomorrow vad he he
[13:02] {magoo} thanx all
[13:03] {dino} take care all, crazy day