Wednesday, February 13, 2008

February 13 2008

Session Time: Wed Feb 13 00:00:00 2008

[08:12] {Threei} BIDU
- maintains SP ratings and $400 PT
[08:12] {Threei} - reminder the Co. reports after the close
[08:14] {Threei} solars
[08:14] {Threei} 07:02am [FSLR] Reports Q4 $0.68 v $0.53e, R $200.8M v $179.6Me
[08:24] {Threei} GUIDES 2008 SALES $900-950M V $820ME, EXPECTS TO SELL 400-430MW
[08:30] {Threei} *(US) JAN ADVANCE RETAIL SALES: 0.3% V -0.3%E; LESS AUTOS: 0.3% V 0.2%E
[08:30] {Threei} bear market is over?
[08:30] {Threei} no recession?
[08:30] {Threei} boy, is it fun or what
[08:31] {hawkfan4} hard to keep up
[08:31] {Threei} NOIZ
[08:31] {Threei} REPORTS Q3 R$8.8M V $3.3M Y/Y
[08:33] {Threei} good thing I gave up on the concept of keeping up long ago
[08:36] {Threei} SPIR
[08:36] {Threei} oh cool
[08:36] {Threei} I longed for some quantum dot nanostructures for a while now
[08:37] {hawkfan4} well really vad, who hasn't?
[08:37] {Threei} true... seems our wishes are being granted
[08:38] {Threei} just a day or two ago I recieved e-mail from cosmo inquiring just how long we will have to wait for those quantum dot nanostructures... and stating that any patience has its limits
[08:43] {Threei} I am actually shocked raven isn't jumping up and down
[08:45] {Raven}
3 too cold
[08:45] {Threei} oh
[08:46] {Raven}
3 stuck in the snow
[08:47] {Threei} FSLR MANAGEMENT SAYS NO COMMENT ON MARKET RUMORS - CONF CALL- notes regarding yields, " to our knowledge we have not had any problems with customers"
[08:48] {cosmo} nano customers?
[08:49] {Raven}
3 nano yields are a problem
[08:49] {cosmo} they need time to compound prpoerly
[08:49] {Raven}
3 very true
[08:49] {cosmo} properly
[08:53] {cosmo} JASO pre mkt high = 19.08 fwiw
[08:56] {dptl} good morning all
[08:56] {Threei} dp :)
[08:58] {dino} gm all, seems i got lucky on fslr
[08:58] {Threei} dino :)
[08:58] {Threei} wow, you held it?
[08:59] {dino} yes, i said swing from 181
[08:59] {cosmo} AMAT
[09:00] {cosmo} 19.35 pre mkt high far
[09:17] {dino} nile, wynn
[09:17] {curtisweese} i wonder if aapl and rimm are up today. :)
[09:17] {cosmo} solars also rising
[09:17] {Threei} FSLR breaks
[09:18] {magoo} morning
[09:18] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:18] {magoo} out plowing snow...sigh'
[09:18] {Threei} yikes
[09:18] {esemde} morning ...interesting morning...
[09:18] {Threei} ese :)
[09:18] {cosmo} here come the solars
[09:19] {esemde} Steve Goldman was right maybe...says this Bear is about 80% over
[09:19] {esemde} i'm right there with ya cos
[09:19] {cosmo} :)
[09:23] {Threei} SOL is one of solar laggers
[09:23] {Threei} getting some buying
[09:25] {esemde} SOLF you mean?
[09:25] {Threei} no SOL
[09:25] {cosmo} sorry to here
[09:25] {bruce} nice piece of luckdino
[09:26] {cosmo} hear
[09:26] {bruce} no need to trade rest of week
[09:27] {dino} yeah, that pretty much covers it, dumb luck
[09:28] {dino} going to hard stop at 213
[09:29] {esemde} what did you do dino,,,,missed it....
[09:30] {dino} took fslr l towards eod for overnight, just lucky
[09:30] {dino} stopped fslr 212.48, slip, +31.48
[09:31] {esemde} holy smoke ....and it gaps up 35..........nice dino nice!!!
[09:31] {patience} impressive dino, nice work
[09:31] {dino} sm, could've went eitrher way
[09:31] {dino} ok, back to work
[09:31] {esemde} full lot?
[09:32] {dino} lol, no small
[09:32] {dino} only 100
[09:34] {lumdus} gm all
[09:34] {Threei} lum :)
[09:35] {bruce} amat break vad?
[09:35] {Threei} doesn't look to be working on breaks
[09:35] {esemde} lum...
[09:35] {Threei} jumps off pullbacks rather
[09:36] {bruce} good point - thanx
[09:39] {Threei} COST, looking for long entry if pulls back into 65
[09:40] {Threei} if never loses .40, then breakout play above .60, half lot
[09:41] {Roman}
21 JASO bouncable
[09:42] {Roman}
21 bidding 18.5
[09:42] {lumdus} short gg 35.30 stop 34.42
[09:43] {lumdus} out -.13
[09:45] {Roman}
21 in JASO
[09:45] {Roman}
21 out JASO
[09:45] {Threei} nice one Roman
[09:45] {Threei} scalped too
[09:46] {magoo} in cost, anyone else?
[09:46] {dino} wspi s .00, stop .23
[09:46] {Threei} not here
[09:49] {dino} rick l .40, stop lod
[09:50] {dino} stopped rick
[09:51] {dino} nile, wynn, looking for bottom
[09:52] {Roman}
[09:52] {Roman}
21 feels higher
[09:52] {Roman}
21 in small 20.18
[09:53] {dino} gs to 175 seems
[09:53] {Threei} ONXX .15 long half lot
[09:53] {Threei} stop under .95
[09:54] {bruce} nfx dino
[09:54] {magoo} stopped cost btw
[09:54] {dino} nile sm l 42.00, stop .48
[09:55] {Threei} wasn't worth the entry on such break mags
[09:55] {magoo} [09:40] {Threei} if never loses .40, then breakout play above .60, half lot
[09:55] {magoo} [09:42] {Roman} JASO bouncab
[09:55] {Threei} yeah?
[09:55] {Threei} if never loses .40,
[09:55] {Threei} it did, dropped into .20
[09:56] {Threei} then spiked sharply into break level
[09:56] {magoo} oh, never saw that
[09:56] {magoo} sorry
[09:56] {Threei} not a breakout
[09:56] {magoo} should have confirmed valid
[09:56] {magoo} went for coffeee
[09:56] {Threei} 9:45 bar
[09:56] {magoo} xpensive cup
[09:56] {Threei} you don't have 1 min chart on?
[09:56] {magoo} $150 dollar cup
[09:57] {magoo} yeah...just came back..saw it near .60 and went for faukllt
[09:57] {magoo} no complaints hee
[09:57] {magoo} here
[09:57] {Threei} just hate to see unnecessary stops
[09:58] {magoo} i feel that boss
[09:58] {lumdus} gild watching long
[09:58] {lumdus} break of 46.00and i am long
[09:59] {dino} out nile 43 +1.00
[10:00] {dino} wspi bstop to b/e not moving
[10:02] {dino} clhb
[10:02] {dino} diod
[10:03] {lumdus} in axp 45.99
[10:03] {lumdus} stop 45.77
[10:05] {lumdus} stop on axp 45.84
[10:06] {bruce} hsii dino
[10:08] {dino} no news
[10:09] {esemde} LONG amkr .94 1/2 LOT
[10:09] {dino} where?
[10:09] {dino} clhb l .47
[10:09] {dino} sm
[10:11] {dino} wspi stopped flast
[10:12] {Threei} scary trade:
[10:12] {Threei} CSIQ .50 break long small shares
[10:13] {Threei} under .20 invalidated
[10:13] {bruce} l clhb .23 stop lod
[10:13] {lumdus} axp stop to 45.87
[10:15] {lumdus} out 46.20 + .21 axp
[10:15] {Threei} FSLR trying to break out of the range
[10:15] {Threei} NQ rtoo
[10:16] {Roman}
[10:16] {cosmo} ESLR wants 11
[10:16] {Roman}
21 looking good too
[10:16] {Roman}
21 buy them all
[10:18] {dino} hsii s sm .48
[10:18] {dino} stop .76
[10:19] {Threei} EXEL?
[10:20] {Threei} RIMM long small
[10:20] {dino} wynn fast fall
[10:20] {magoo} here or under 94?
[10:20] {Threei} here
[10:20] {Threei} stop under .90
[10:21] {magoo} still liking CSIQ?
[10:21] {Threei} no
[10:22] {Threei} no worky RIMM
[10:22] {esemde} OUT amkr .06 +.12
[10:24] {esemde} ok...Vad...i seem to be picking these stocks that seem to have OK liquidity levels but they move like snails.....what might i be missing here
[10:24] {Threei} the thicker stock is the slower it moves as a rule
[10:24] {Threei} trade-off of safety
[10:25] {Threei} thinnies are jumpy
[10:25] {Threei} oil numbers in 5 min btw
[10:25] {esemde} they are safe for sure.....maybe go at them with more size...does that seem reasonable
[10:25] {Threei} that;s the idea
[10:26] {bruce} do you know how to you the alert feature in laser modules vad?
[10:26] {Threei} the thicker it is the easier it is to get in and out with no significant slippage,
[10:26] {Threei} and since they are narrower, stops are usually smaller too
[10:26] {Threei} which allows for bigger size
[10:27] {esemde} tks
[10:27] {dino} clhb stopped -.40
[10:27] {Threei} alert feature?
[10:28] {Threei} I don't see it in OMS
[10:28] {dino} sm s dwsn .24 jumpy, wide
[10:29] {Threei} oh, separate module... see it now bruce
[10:29] {Threei} no, never looked into it
[10:29] {Threei} can inquire when dave gets his computer back up and runninh
[10:29] {bruce} stopped clhb
[10:30] {lumdus} short trv 57.41 stop 47.61
[10:30] {lumdus} s trv 47.51 stop 47.61
[10:30] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: +1.07M V +2.5ME; GASOLINE: +1.75M V +1.6ME; DISTILLATES: -166K V -1.5ME; UTILIZATION: % V 84.3%E
[10:30] {Threei} - Crude: +1.3M
[10:30] {Threei} - Gasoline: +610K
[10:30] {Threei} - Distillate:-540K
[10:36] {Threei} RIMM
[10:36] {Threei} HEARING CHATTER OF PARTIAL OUTAGES OF BLACKBERRY SYSTEM ON THE WEST COAST (UNCONFIRMED)- reminder the Blackberry network went down across North America for several hours on Monday; at that time, the company cited ongoing data center upgrades for the outage
[10:36] {curtisweese} my blackberry is up in SEattle ...hehe
[10:39] {lumdus} did you short rimm at least ?
[10:40] {curtisweese} i'm shorting roger clemens
[10:40] {lumdus} ok.. out trv -.11
[10:40] {lumdus} no workie today
[10:48] {dino} cpla drop
[10:51] {dino} dwsn bstop to .52, oih up
[10:53] {dino} hsii bstop to .41, not moving
[10:53] {esemde} long SOLF .46
[10:53] {esemde} on top of my swing lot
[10:54] {dino} cov dwsn .50, -.26
[10:54] {dino} hsii cov .42, +.06
[10:55] {Threei} FSLR seems to be looking for 220 at least
[10:56] {magoo} hit it next pullbk ?
[10:56] {Threei} risk on it is beyond my tolerance
[10:56] {Threei} I'd prefer to play one of its followers
[10:57] {dino} de l .40, stop .99
[10:57] {dino} sm
[10:58] {lumdus} maybe jdsu long if it breaks.
[10:58] {magoo} aapl long here vad? naz trying
[10:58] {Threei} closer to .50 I'd feel more comfortable on AAPL mags
[10:59] {Threei} stop would have to be under .30
[10:59] {lumdus} vad, why would you take aapl long or short it's stuck .. i think
[11:00] {Threei} stuck?
[11:00] {Threei} thing moves 50 cents in a matter of minutes :)
[11:00] {lumdus} oh, so you just playing the channel..
[11:01] {Threei} there is double bottom support around .35,
[11:01] {Threei} there is secondary support around .50,
[11:01] {magoo} all it needs is a naz push
[11:01] {Threei} stock pulls back from 127 to it, it's a ligitmate long if NQ helps
[11:01] {lumdus} ok tx vad
[11:03] {Threei} what's with DNDN?
[11:03] {magoo} hate that one
[11:05] {Threei} FSLR almost 220
[11:05] {lumdus} short ggp 36.20 sto p36.32
[11:05] {Threei} I don't think it was tradable mags, pulled back and jumped sharply with no warning
[11:06] {Chaeron} no news DNDN
[11:06] {Chaeron} good morning to all btw
[11:06] {Threei} hi chaeron
[11:06] {magoo} see, if u only take 100 the pullbk..thats how to do it
[11:06] {Threei} I don't see anything either
[11:06] {magoo} was looking at 117 area
[11:06] {magoo} risk a max of 2 points against
[11:07] {magoo} maybe catch 5 up
[11:07] {lumdus} ggp stop 36.31
[11:08] {Threei} ESLR gave much more tradable move of FSLR jump
[11:08] {magoo} wasn't on my watch list
[11:09] {lumdus} amzn rocking
[11:09] {magoo} in aapl from .55
[11:09] {Threei} me out .90
[11:10] {Threei} worked like charm
[11:10] {Threei} never lost .50, not even saying of jeopardizing stop under .35
[11:10] {Threei} and came into that .50 support for entry like a good boy
[11:10] {magoo} my spot..your read entry..nice
[11:11] {lumdus} aapl very nice trade. i missed it
[11:11] {lumdus} vad, you where looking on 3 mins chart i assume..
[11:11] {Threei} ahhh... DNDN has conference call today at 1:15
[11:11] {Threei} no, 1 min
[11:11] {magoo} especially for one thats "stuck"
[11:11] {esemde} out SOLF .80
[11:12] {esemde} +.34....
[11:15] {Threei} you got a good feel for it ese... it scares the living daylight out of me
[11:15] {dptl} got to go....have a good day everyone
[11:15] {Threei} take care dp
[11:15] {esemde} have been watching this stock for a month and a bit now
[11:15] {Threei} don't go near that explosion area
[11:16] {esemde} plus the fact that I have swing lot in there at 6.10
[11:16] {esemde} has made me extra sensitive to it
[11:17] {curtisweese} jump back in aapl at .50 again?
[11:17] {esemde} first time or second maybe that i've done a day trade on it as well
[11:18] {Threei} not sure curtis
[11:18] {Threei} not as clean setup as last time around
[11:18] {curtisweese} gonna break down or up big soon methinks ....just which way? grrrrr
[11:18] {Threei} with resistance at 127 tested so many times and holding, it could fail holdng support anytime now
[11:18] {Threei} and NQ looks questionable here too
[11:19] {Threei} not sure it's ready to be shorted but it ceased to be long
[11:19] {curtisweese} shorted at .54 aapl......roll the dice!!
[11:20] {Threei} OK, stop is above .80
[11:20] {Threei} and pray it loses .35
[11:20] {lumdus} praying for all of you :)
[11:20] {Threei} I am just an observer
[11:20] {lumdus} me too. i am just short ggp
[11:21] {lumdus} i like less heart pounding scray setups. i learned to take "easy" money only.
[11:22] {Threei} some of us need their adrenalin injection daily...
[11:22] * Threei pretends not to be looking at magoo and curtis
[11:23] {bruce} out for balance of day
[11:23] {bruce} see you tomorrow
[11:23] {lumdus} a couple of good shots are cheaper then losing money
[11:23] {bruce} bye all
[11:23] {magoo} bye bruce
[11:23] {Threei} take care bruce
[11:24] {Threei} I'd trail stop to above .70 on AAPL curtis
[11:24] {esemde} see ya bruce
[11:24] {curtisweese} i accidentally clicked buy to!!! i'm out :(
[11:25] {Threei} OK... was 50/50 trade to begin with anyway
[11:25] {Threei} so it's a destiny to exit on accident :)
[11:25] {curtisweese} works for me!!! only losing $14 in trade fees is a win sometimes
[11:25] {curtisweese} okay many time
[11:25] {curtisweese} s
[11:26] {Threei} FSLR
[11:26] {Threei} if you want real adrenalin injection
[11:26] {lumdus} ggp stop 36.16 (protect my capital and commi)
[11:26] {Threei} buy 220 break
[11:26] {Threei} close your eyes
[11:26] {Threei} pray
[11:26] {Threei} open in 3 min
[11:26] {Threei} click sell and look what came out of it
[11:27] {dino} wynnsm l .50
[11:27] {lumdus} out ggp flaat
[11:29] {Threei} 3 min are up
[11:29] {Threei} you are up 1.50
[11:30] {Threei} magoo???
[11:30] {Threei} don't tell me you are still in
[11:30] {magoo} i didn't take
[11:30] {Threei} ok, that did it
[11:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:30] {magoo} i gotta go plow, be back hour or more
[11:31] {Threei} extracting call on FSLR from me, finally getting it and not taking it?? :)
[11:31] {magoo} i gotta go.LEAVE ME BE
[11:31] {Threei} no
[11:32] {Threei} ghost of this trade is going to haunt you
[11:33] {Chaeron} mags, if you would have listened to Threei, you could have hired a crew of guys to do your plowing for you
[11:33] {magoo} fu guys
[11:34] {Chaeron} love you too bro
[11:34] {Chaeron} :)
[11:34] {curtisweese} in at 127 on aapl
[11:38] {esemde} SOLF approaching highs of day...
[11:39] {esemde} if it can get past 18.88...skys the limit with this one
[11:39] {esemde} sorry high of the day is 18.03 and 7 day high is 18.88
[11:42] {curtisweese} out aapl +$.34
[11:42] {Threei} wtg
[11:42] {curtisweese} not bad i guess!
[11:43] {Threei} nice SOLF
[11:45] {Threei} should pull back now
[11:45] {esemde} RATS....was looking away at something else......missed that scalp trade....
[11:45] {Threei} I took .96
[11:45] {esemde} gj vad
[11:46] {Threei} .95 big offer was too tempting
[11:46] {esemde} as long as markets move in it's direction it should keep going
[11:47] {esemde} how do you mean too tempting
[11:47] {Threei} when such offer is taken it provides nice momo
[11:47] {esemde} ahhhh....tks
[11:49] {curtisweese} in aapl again at .28
[11:51] {curtisweese} out...doh!
[11:51] {Chaeron} guys, I'm normally on top of this, but is market closed Monday?
[11:52] {Chaeron} Presidents' Day
[11:52] {Threei} NASDAQ Holiday Trading Schedule
[11:52] {Threei} 2008 Holiday Schedule
[11:52] {Threei} 2007 Dates - Unless noted, the following dates are holidays that The NASDAQ Stock Market is closed. January 1 - New Year's Day
[11:52] {Threei} January 15 - Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday
[11:52] {Threei} February 19 - Presidents' Day
[11:52] {Threei} yes
[11:52] {Threei}
[11:52] {Chaeron} sorry... thanks...
[11:55] {dino} i think it's feb. 18th 3i
[11:56] {Threei} yeah I guess they copied it from last year for website posting :)
[12:03] {esemde} SOLF nice!!!!
[12:04] {Threei} FSLR is dragging it
[12:05] {esemde} is it ever....
[12:05] {curtisweese} out on aapl again.. +$.21 only
[12:16] {dino} out wynn 112.15, +.65
[12:17] {dino} oyog
[12:17] {dino} thin
[12:19] {Threei} if today is anything like last days, we are to see selloffs starting about now
[12:21] {dino} if is a word in life
[12:21] {Threei} as always...
[12:22] {dino} as"if"
[12:23] {Threei} so... IF it materializes, QID is long
[12:23] {dino} hayn
[12:23] {Threei} .80 is closest support
[12:24] {Threei} hard to nail entry, see if you agree with general assesment of direction
[12:24] {Threei} and try to grab it with .79 stop
[12:31] {Threei} if we make sharp red bar here it will be a nice confirmation of patterns starting
[12:35] {Threei} took .84, 5 cents stop is too temnpting to pass
[12:36] {Threei} if too early, that's risk I am willing to take
[12:36] {dino} sm s hayn .68
[12:36] {dino} cov .,28, +.40
[12:37] {dino} too quick
[12:37] {Threei} wtg
[12:38] {dino} ty
[12:39] {Threei} volume on this last NQ nounce was quite pathetic
[12:42] {Threei} hmmm... I have 1:2 here... scalper's blood is boiling
[12:42] {Threei} remember SOL I entioned earlier ese?
[12:44] {dino} recn
[12:51] {dino} asys
[12:53] {esemde} have a great rest of the day .....ya hear(as Jed Calmpet used to say)!
[12:53] {Threei} take care ese :)
[12:53] {esemde} thats CLAMpet
[12:53] {esemde} see ya vad
[13:00] {Threei} let's pull the rug NQ
[13:00] {Threei} there you go
[13:00] {Threei} out half QID +.18
[13:00] {dino} ceph
[13:01] {Threei} almost 1:4
[13:02] {dino} wow
[13:02] {dino} cep[h
[13:04] {Threei} WILL BE ACCUSED BY FTC OF ILLEGAL DEALS OVER PROVIGIL AGREEMENTS, COMPLAINT COULD BE FILED TODAY - WIRE CITES SOURCES- FTC to accuse CEPH of making illegal deals to delay generic competition for its sleep disorder drug, Provigil, which is its top selling product.
[13:05] {dino} about 4 bucks in 5 mins.
[13:05] {Threei} and doesn't seem to stop
[13:05] {dino} ok thx
[13:06] {dino} recn l .35, sm
[13:09] {dino} give me a bottom ceph? 57.50s
[13:09] {dino} whers' bruce when i need him:)
[13:09] {Threei} gosh with this news...
[13:10] {dino} it will drag on and on......imo
[13:14] {Threei} no ultimate rug pull on NQ so far
[13:14] {Threei} maybe too soon but new highs do not really fit the picture
[13:15] {Threei} CEPH should be short somehwre
[13:17] {Threei} FTC will challenge agreements CEPH made with four companies (BRL, MYL, TEVA, and Ranbaxy) to postpone generic versions until 2012, as part of a campaign to prevent drug makers from extending monopolies by buying off competitors.
[13:18] {dino} it will probably take a year +
[13:19] {Threei} sure... if that quick :)
[13:19] {Threei} it's just this bounce will be tempting enough for those caught by news to sell
[13:19] {dino} so, really doesn't matter
[13:20] {Threei} news itself, of course not... fear it generates does... as always :)
[13:21] {Threei} one more spike and seems to be running out of gas
[13:22] {Threei} finger on a trigger
[13:22] {dino} 60.68
[13:22] {Threei} in
[13:23] {Threei} stop above 60.10
[13:23] {Threei} if no worky, then your target is next
[13:24] {magoo} back
[13:24] {dino} nice
[13:24] {Threei} still in.... maybe too greedy
[13:26] {Threei} out
[13:26] {Threei} .50
[13:26] {Threei} +.48
[13:26] {dino} gj
[13:26] {Threei} hey mags
[13:27] {Threei} your back OK?
[13:27] {magoo} yeah..thanx for asking
[13:27] {magoo} slush outside like 6 inches
[13:28] {Threei} just remembering what this snow plowing was like on my back
[13:28] {magoo} if freeezes gonna be bad
[13:29] {patience} vad, be honest with magoo. your lawn has grown so much this spring, you know you have to mow for an hour at least as well
[13:30] {Threei} lol
[13:30] {Threei} true actually
[13:30] {patience} i know
[13:30] {dino} who said that :)
[13:31] {Threei} when I feel especially mean, I am sending photos of my lawn to friends back in Winnipeg
[13:32] {Threei} note I said "especially mean" because just mean is my usual state
[13:32] {Threei} covered CEPH a bit too soon eh?
[13:34] {dino} y
[13:36] {magoo} i would think qid long soon for scalp
[13:36] {Threei} BIDU after close makes waters more mirky today
[13:37] {magoo} it will move 30 points
[13:37] {magoo} don't know which way
[13:37] {Threei} awww
[13:37] {magoo} but i always follow its report
[13:37] {Threei} feels like CEPH bounce from here
[13:38] {Threei} in, .70 stop
[13:38] {dino} s at .60 l at .57.70 imo
[13:38] {magoo} in .892
[13:38] {dino} otherwise no-man's land
[13:40] {Threei} out
[13:40] {magoo} out here .23 TY vad
[13:40] {Threei} welcome :)
[13:40] {dino} gj magoo
[13:40] {magoo} easy button worthy
[13:40] {dino} easy button
[13:41] {dino} recn stop to .58
[13:41] {magoo} u still in
[13:41] {Threei} [13:40] {Threei} out
[13:42] {magoo} sorry
[13:42] {Threei} nope
[13:42] {Threei} no forgiveness
[13:43] {magoo} thats ok..i deserve it
[13:43] {Threei} lol
[13:43] {magoo} was cranky earlier
[13:44] {magoo} goog sold off 40 points on gun to head
[13:44] {magoo} bidu sells off
[13:47] {dino} out recn +.23
[13:48] {magoo} rimm sh soon
[13:57] {lumdus} i am about to short pg
[13:58] {magoo} vad,,FSLR short if mkt retreats?
[13:58] {curtisweese} DIE AAPL!!
[13:59] {Threei} I don't think there is such direct connection betwen market and FSLR today magoo
[14:00] {lumdus} short pg 66.87 stop 67.05
[14:00] {magoo} ok
[14:01] {dino} sm s wynn .20
[14:03] {curtisweese} out on aapl short $.49 ahead! yay!
[14:03] {magoo} nice
[14:04] {curtisweese} bought in again on aapl for bounce 128.99
[14:06] {curtisweese} stopped out :(
[14:06] {lumdus} my touch this AM was off down, -.04 .. maybe the pm session i be better
[14:06] {curtisweese} or i mean.....yay...i didn't lose more
[14:06] {lumdus} ok, so now pg die a horrible misreable death.. i need the points now.
[14:09] {Threei} points is tough thing to expct ferom PG
[14:11] {lumdus} i was thinking to ride it to 66
[14:12] {magoo} vad, u like anything for pullbk?
[14:14] {Threei} not really, I can't tell between pullback and bounce on one side and continuation down on other
[14:14] {magoo} like RIMM
[14:14] {magoo} ok, what u watching? {besides TV lol}
[14:14] {dino} stopped wynn/cov .60, +.60
[14:14] {Threei} market is 25 points higher than I'd thought it should be
[14:15] {Chaeron} I'll call them and tell them
[14:15] {Threei} lol
[14:15] {Chaeron} :)
[14:15] {Threei} I'll tell you what I watch... XIDE, in total disgust
[14:15] {Threei} day after day I see it on a scanner making new highs
[14:15] {magoo} what channel is XIDE on?
[14:15] {Threei} and can't find any play on it
[14:16] {dino} hayn sm s .14
[14:16] {dino} risky, jumpy
[14:21] {ludva1} hello
[14:21] {ludva1} first time here
[14:21] {curtisweese} hi
[14:22] {dino} welcome ludva
[14:22] {patience} hi ludva1
[14:24] {magoo} welcome ludva1
[14:24] {ludva1} yesterday Ive ordered Vads course package I got access here
[14:24] {dino} ceph break of .00 s
[14:24] {ludva1} could anyone point me out what shall I do now please?
[14:24] {Chaeron} good to have you ludva. You'll love the course
[14:25] {lumdus} ludva, maybe watch jnpr for a scalp long
[14:25] {ludva1} I love anything what is not full of ballony, which I expect this is not :)
[14:25] {ludva1} OK lets see juniper
[14:26] {Threei} hi ludva, welcome
[14:26] {magoo} ludva, if i and observe our strategy and style first and for awhile
[14:26] {magoo} we have very quick time frame
[14:27] {magoo} trigger an entry and we layout exit
[14:27] {lumdus} ludva, after you hang here a while you wont need to eat baloney you can eat steak for lunch
[14:27] {ludva1} :):)
[14:27] {Threei} I'll be back in 10 min guys, need to slap myself out of coma
[14:27] {dino} cov .70, +.30
[14:27] {ludva1} looks like nice company here
[14:28] {dino} give it time, lol
[14:29] {ludva1} what is that floor thing in other window I can see pls?
[14:31] {magoo} its for special trade setups that only vad will put in there
[14:31] {magoo} rarely used, ignore it
[14:31] {dino} hayn bstop to .97
[14:31] {ludva1} Ok thanx
[14:31] {lumdus} ludva, we never ever use it
[14:32] {lumdus} watching csx break of .20
[14:32] {lumdus} long
[14:33] {ludva1} does it mean you guys only using this discussion board for your trades and others learn from it? Is everybody here trading Vads methods or some of you trade totally different things and just enjoy this nice company? Sorry for all these questions, after I spend some time here, I calm down :)
[14:34] {Threei} back... nicotine works
[14:34] {dino} cov hayn .80, +.34
[14:34] {Threei} ludva, there are my calls and there are all other things members here see and trade
[14:34] {lumdus} in csx 50.20
[14:34] {Threei} eventually it comes down to each working out his own style and vision
[14:35] {Threei} since every trader has his own risk tolerance and expcetations
[14:35] {lumdus} long csx 50.20 stop 50.05
[14:35] {ludva1} Great, I actually trade minies for some time, but I love to learn new things, so thats why Im here. thank you
[14:36] {lumdus} ludva, i like to think i trade vad's style. I learned only from here.. so i consider my self a student of vad
[14:36] {Threei} one thing you really need to make your peace with is:
[14:36] {Threei} we are world's worst typists
[14:36] {Chaeron} and spellers
[14:36] {Chaeron} *cough*
[14:36] {dino} lumdus the brown-noser
[14:36] {ludva1} understand.
[14:37] {lumdus} dino, he's new we give him the truthh and then we rough him up
[14:37] {ludva1} spellers I guess Im the one worst here as not native english speaker
[14:37] {dino} wyn almost lod
[14:37] {ludva1} :) :)
[14:37] {ludva1} lumdus funny huh
[14:37] {lumdus} go csx !
[14:38] {dino} lol um
[14:38] {dino} recn l .90-
[14:40] {lumdus} csx stop now 50.14
[14:40] {Threei} QID short on bounce, as close to .10 as possible
[14:40] {Threei} just a small scalp
[14:41] {Threei} in, stop .15
[14:41] {Threei} NQ break of 1825 should make it work
[14:42] {lumdus} go csx ..
[14:42] {Threei} nope, no worky
[14:42] {lumdus} stop on csx 50.24
[14:43] {lumdus} vad, stop on csx in 50.20 .. what would be stop on it ?
[14:43] {lumdus} 50.15 ?
[14:44] {Threei} yup, that's the closest support
[14:45] {Threei} so far scenario with BIDU is the same as with GOOG on earnings day
[14:45] {Threei} market is up, BIDU is up
[14:45] {Threei} after announcement GOOG dropped 40 points
[14:45] {Threei} will history repeat?
[14:45] {lumdus} out csx - .05
[14:45] {magoo} then bounced 20 back
[14:46] {magoo} all in 30 minutes
[14:46] {magoo} but settled in20 down
[14:47] {magoo} trhey are similar in many ways related to trading perspective
[14:47] {magoo} if goog dissappoints..would figur bidu will
[14:47] {Threei} yeah, that's why I recite the analogy
[14:48] {magoo} i know..agrreeing and adding what i remember
[14:48] {magoo} i caught goog fopr like 17 points remember
[14:48] {Threei} I remember struggling with calculator trying to compute your win
[14:49] {dino} recn stop to .95
[14:49] {dino} trouble w/.01
[14:50] {lumdus} stop on pg 66.94
[14:50] {dino} stopped +.05
[14:51] {Threei} now NQ starts looking like down, and I can't make myself rely on it
[14:51] {Threei} not much following to the recent patterns today
[14:51] {lumdus} amzn looking sweet, just need to wait a little
[14:52] {magoo} lum, as short?
[14:53] {dino} sm s wynn .10\
[14:53] {lumdus} amzn as long ..
[14:54] {lumdus} i just want to wait a few more mins, before i take another trade. today not my usual self here.
[14:54] {lumdus} amzn next stop 80.00 maybe
[14:56] {Threei} CEPH managed to make new lows
[14:57] {Threei} wouldn't try it for bounce here but on the next sharp selloff probably yes
[14:58] {Threei} perfect... NQ now looks upward again
[14:58] {Threei} sigh... useless peice of you know what
[14:58] {dino} stopped wynn -.40
[14:59] {lumdus} out pg -.03
[14:59] {Threei} and this time QID does what was expected last time around
[14:59] {dino} rinsed
[15:00] {dino} take it l .10
[15:00] {lumdus} in rimm 96.52 stop 96.20
[15:01] {ludva1} Vad, is your course applicable for minies as well or mainly for scalping stocks pls?
[15:01] {lumdus} rimm 96.42 stop 96.20
[15:01] {Threei} mostly stocks
[15:01] {Threei} main priniciples are the same
[15:02] {Threei} it's just stocks that I trade so a lot of material is specific to that
[15:04] {ludva1} thanx. is this time of high volatility good, bad or dont care for your work?
[15:04] {ludva1} I mean course info
[15:04] {Threei} it's a bit more complicated than that
[15:04] {Threei} high volatility presents more opportunities,
[15:04] {Threei} but major question is,
[15:05] {Threei} whether your mehtod of reading allows to find safe entries
[15:05] {Threei} volatility is not always readable
[15:05] {dino} out wynn .20, +.120
[15:05] {Threei} sometimes it's just listless jerking around
[15:05] {dino} .10
[15:06] {Threei} prettty much like we have last hour or so
[15:07] {ludva1} how many trades a day you can expect to have on average?
[15:07] {Threei} really depends on market activity and readability
[15:07] {Threei} anywhere from 3-5 to 15-20
[15:07] {ludva1} Is it Ok Im asking so many question here?
[15:07] {Threei} 3-5 being market in a coma
[15:08] {ludva1} :)
[15:08] {Threei} 15-20 when market in fever
[15:09] {Threei} if market remains as it, sharp spike is coming
[15:10] {ludva1} should do something. for last 2 hours there is no volume on ES
[15:11] {Threei} come on NQ
[15:12] {Threei} you want to retry 1830
[15:15] {Threei} meaningless up and downin a tight range
[15:23] {Threei} DNDN
[15:23] {Threei} not in a short list
[15:23] {dino} hmmm eod rally so far
[15:28] {Threei} IMO, one more pullback, then thrust to 1830 and possible above'
[15:28] {Threei} see chart, if you afree consider plasying QID accordingly
[15:29] {Threei} SOLF scalp candidate .20 break trigger
[15:30] {dino} trak s .97
[15:31] {lumdus} in bbd 28.09
[15:31] {lumdus} stop 28.03
[15:31] {Threei} stop under .15
[15:32] {magoo} in solf
[15:33] {Threei} just a scalp mags, don't oversit it
[15:34] {Threei} end of day is too wierd today
[15:34] {magoo} out there .44
[15:34] {magoo} no good/
[15:35] {magoo} .39
[15:35] {dino} bstop to .83 trak
[15:36] {dino} stopped covered .84, +.13
[15:37] {Threei} FSLR new highs
[15:37] {Threei} let's see if helps your SOLF magoo
[15:38] {magoo} sitting .39
[15:38] {Threei} maybe too optimistic
[15:38] {Threei} FSALR pulling back
[15:39] {Threei} then again... your risk was 5-7 cents to begin with
[15:40] {magoo} ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:40] {lumdus} done for the day. tough day for me -.57 (with commission) for the day. not used to a loss. haven't had that for almost 1 month. geesh !
[15:41] {Threei} take care lum, chill out overnight... noone wins every day
[15:41] {magoo} out here .30
[15:41] {magoo} saw .38 hits..was at .39
[15:41] {lumdus} yeah, my axp.. if it didn't shake me i would be up +1.30 . drink a cold beer and come back fighting
[15:43] {dino} shake it off lum
[15:45] {dino} asei
[15:47] {dino} asei break of .50 s
[15:48] {dino} ok
[15:48] {magoo} bidu really pushing up here vad
[15:49] {magoo} im ,ooking for news predictions on it
[15:52] {dino} bidu est .71
[15:55] {magoo} vad, get bidu's news up asap ok??
[15:55] {magoo} u da man
[15:55] {ludva1} im going, thanx for welcome.bye
[15:55] {Threei} do they report right after close?
[15:56] {magoo} c u tomorrow lud
[15:56] {Threei} take care ludva, see you tomorrow
[15:57] {dino} asei stopped -.07
[15:57] {magoo} not sure vad, real money site all screwed up for info
[15:58] {magoo} they re did it..messed it up
[15:58] {Threei} watching news feed
[16:04] {Threei} come on already BIDU... report
[16:05] {magoo} stay on it boss : )
[16:06] {Threei} easy to say... I keep my eyes open for 6 min already
[16:06] {Threei} how often do you think it happens to me
[16:06] {magoo} not often
[16:06] {Threei} not at all
[16:10] {magoo} its getting jumpuy
[16:14] {Threei} you mean it ever sits still? :)
[16:17] {dino} gn all thx for a decent day
[16:27] {Threei} hmmm
[16:27] {Threei} 5 points move, still nothing on wires
[16:28] {Threei} I mean 9 points
[16:28] {magoo} what u make of thay?
[16:28] {Threei} shrug
[16:29] {Threei} doesn't take much to move it, you know :)
[16:29] {Threei} couple traders decided to make their bet...
[16:29] {Threei} couple more thought those first ones know something and joined
[16:30] {Threei} snowball effect :)
[16:30] {Threei} REPORTS Q4 $0.87 V $0.72E, R$78.3M V $77.1ME- Guides Q1 Rev $ v $77.1Me
[16:31] {Threei} no guidance yet
[16:31] {Threei} - Guides Q1 Rev $73.1M-$75.1M v $77.1Me
[16:31] {Threei} hmmm
[16:32] {Threei} beats earnings, lowers guidance on rev