Thursday, June 19, 2008

Jun 19 2008

Session Time: Thu Jun 19 00:00:00 2008
[08:03] {Threei} 06/17/08 05:58pm [ESLR] Stanford Group Analyst Initiates ESLR with Buy
[08:03] {Threei} 06/18/08 04:54pm
[08:03] {Threei} [ESLR] Evergreen Solar Inc Signs two new sales contracts for a total of $600M
[08:03] {Threei} - These contracts extend through 2012 and bring the company's total contractual backlog to approximately $1.7B.
[08:03] {Threei} - The contracts are with US-based groSolar and German-based Wagner & Co Solartechnik GmbH.
[08:03] {Threei} - These two contracts plus two others previously announced contracts represent approximately 65% of the expected 160MW of annual production capacity at Devens through 2013.
[08:04] {Threei} 08:00am [ESLR] Introduces New ES-A Series String Ribbon (TM) Solar Panels at InterSolar 2008 in Munich, Germany
[08:04] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad, dptl, hawkfan4, jmb.
[08:05] {Threei} Good morning lisa
[08:05] {Threei} don't have ESLR quotes yet... anyone see it trading?
[08:05] {hawkfan4} gm all, trading 11.57, up 1.34
[08:06] {Threei} ty hawk
[08:06] {hawkfan4} np
[08:06] {Threei} 12 is huge resistance for it
[08:07] {Threei} if it ever breaks it, not much to keep it down
[08:07] {Threei} the only problem is, this stock is notorious for not holding gains
[08:08] {Threei} - This new line of 200, 205 and 210 W solar panels features the most powerful products Evergreen Solar has produced. And with a -0, +5W specification, the ES-A Series also provides the best power tolerance currently available in the industry.
[08:08] {Threei} - The carbon footprint of these panels is up to 50% smaller than that of its competitors'. These solar panels also have the quickest energy payback, now as fast as 12 months for installed panels.
[08:08] {hawkfan4} yep, but it sure does look good over 12
[08:09] {Threei} I don't know if today is the day... there are a lot of sellers in this one. But if it finally does break, we have a runner on our hands I believe
[08:10] {Threei} Short Percent of Float 23.54 %
[08:10] {Threei} not bad
[08:13] {Threei} you can tell I am intrigued :)
[08:13] {hawkfan4} i could have used this news yesterday, had big size from 10.09, sold 10.40
[08:13] {Threei} it came after hours
[08:15] {Threei} - Expectations for initial claims are 375K v prior release of 384K.
[08:15] {Threei} - Continuing claims seen at 3.135M v prior 3.139M.
[08:23] {Threei} ROYL is another hero candidate
[08:25] {Threei} andf if it moves, OMNI is sector sympathy play
[08:26] {hawkfan4} yep, just put omni on the screen
[08:27] {Threei} there is some contradiction though between these two candidates
[08:28] {Threei} ESLR is likely to move when oil is strong, while ROYL needs oil weakening
[08:29] {Threei} there are some signs of solar sector starting to disconnect from oil lately... but it hasn't shaped up enough yet
[08:30] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 381K V 375KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 3.06M V 3.135ME
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Initial Jobless Claims revised from 384K to 386K
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Continuing Claims revised from 3.139M to 3.136M
[08:39] {Threei} some enthusiasm ESLR
[08:40] {Threei} yesterday after hours it topped around 11.80 - .85
[08:44] {Threei} would love to see .50 holding, .65 broken...
[08:44] {Threei} that would lay a good foundation for a squeeze,
[08:45] {Threei} then 12 break should put it in category of Oh Wow
[08:45] {hawkfan4} got some .53 avg, also have JASO small from 21.11, grabbed it in after hours . SOLF was really strong yesterday too
[08:46] {Threei} overall, this sector serves us well from last fall
[08:47] {Threei} if we are confessing... took .50 :)
[08:47] {hawkfan4} seriously, i keep thinking i'm going to have to move on, but they are pretty darn reliable
[08:47] {hawkfan4} :)
[08:47] {Threei} as long as momentum is there... milk it :)
[08:48] {Threei} beating myself for not taking SATC at 3 yesterday
[08:48] {Threei} really didn't want to commit to swing trade... but chart was so darn perfect
[08:49] {hawkfan4} i passed too, was thinking closer to 2.80, the 20 sma. looked like it wanted to get there
[08:51] {Threei} up 28 cents
[08:51] {Threei} would have been 3-5K candidate
[08:51] {Threei} sigh
[08:51] {Threei} 32 cents
[08:52] {hawkfan4} i had 3k ESLR yesterday. sigh
[08:54] {Threei} ROYL is trading above 52 week high
[08:57] {fernp} Good morning
[08:57] {Threei} fern :)
[08:57] {Threei} replay isn't working still?
[08:58] {fernp} no
[08:58] {Threei} will contact them again after market...
[08:58] {Threei} we are watching ESLR and ROYL
[08:59] {Threei} really want to see .50 holding
[09:00] {fernp} After Hours: ESLR +14.5% (signs two new sales contracts totaling ~$600 mln);
[09:00] {Threei} yup
[09:00] {Threei} and upgrade, adn unveiled new solar panels
[09:00] {Threei} more effective than old ones
[09:01] {Threei} oil jumping up
[09:01] {Threei} (again)
[09:01] {hawkfan4} yep
[09:01] {Threei} let's see some sizeable buys ESLR... I miss good old relentless short squeeze
[09:03] {hawkfan4} i second that emotion
[09:05] {Threei} always hated this viscosity in ESLR
[09:05] {Threei} as if there was an elastic band on its waist, tied to some pole behind it
[09:06] {cosmo} in a bad dream...
[09:07] {Threei} my bad dreams usually involve pulling shark teeth for some reason
[09:07] {Threei} but yeah
[09:07] {GeoArb} gm
[09:07] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:08] {cosmo} hmm ... a wanna be vetinarian?
[09:08] {Threei} last thing on my mind...
[09:08] {Threei} IVAN on the move again
[09:10] {cosmo} ESLR needs to hold 11.30 ..should hold 11.40 imho
[09:10] {Threei} true
[09:10] {Threei} I would prefer it to hold .50 though
[09:10] {_Lisa_Jay} tra
[09:11] {_Lisa_Jay} sorry wrong screen.
[09:13] {Threei} take that .65 ESLR
[09:13] {Threei} will I hate to beg for each cent or what
[09:13] {Threei} have
[09:15] {dino} gm all
[09:15] {magoo} lksd,hsrlkifhlfhlkghsrkfhek : )
[09:15] {Threei} dino, magoo :)
[09:16] {Threei} [08:58] {Threei} we are watching ESLR and ROYL
[09:17] {magoo} u take anything premkt?
[09:18] {cosmo} coffee
[09:18] {Threei} ESLR
[09:18] {cosmo} ah..yea
[09:18] {Threei} .50
[09:18] {Threei} stop under .30
[09:18] {magoo} ok
[09:18] {Threei} if squezes, planning to dump half somewhere .80- .90, and hol,d half for break of 12 and real run
[09:19] {cosmo} someday solars as a group will have an open break
[09:20] {magoo} u holding it into open?
[09:21] {cosmo} .44 and .39 stops
[09:21] {Threei} unless it reaches my target before that :)
06[09:22] * Threei points to 11.61 offer and tells ESLR "there boy, there, go get it!"
[09:22] {Threei} good boy
[09:22] {Threei} can you believe I never had a dog?
[09:26] {cosmo} gee... that's lucky...
[09:28] {peterg} hello!?
[09:28] {Threei} hi peter
[09:28] {Threei} ESLR on radar
[09:28] {peterg} k
[09:30] {magoo} ESLR news vad?
[09:30] {Threei} new contracts, new products, upgrade
[09:31] {Threei} .50 break long if holding above .35
[09:32] {Threei} oil drop holding it back I suppose
[09:32] {Threei} should break
[09:33] {magoo} in .50
[09:34] {Threei} ABAY again
[09:34] {Threei} ABAT
[09:34] {cosmo} ESLR needs to hold 11.30 ..should hold 11.40 imho
[09:34] {esemde} morning...late but morning
[09:34] {Threei} ese :)
[09:34] {dino} news bphx?
[09:34] {Threei} not good ESLR
[09:34] {cosmo} not today...
[09:34] {dino} ty
[09:35] {fernp} stopped
[09:35] {peterg} out for now
[09:35] {peterg} abat
[09:35] {magoo} stopped
[09:36] {dino} sm l bphx .99, wide
[09:37] {esemde} nice jump
[09:38] {esemde} another 600mil contract
[09:38] {Threei} [09:30] {Threei} new contracts, new products, upgrade
[09:38] {Threei} tough to find right entry on it
[09:40] {magoo} right now entire solar sector not performing
[09:40] {Threei} because of sharp drop in oil
[09:40] {Roman} 21 COIN
[09:41] {Roman} 21 in small
[09:41] {Roman} 21 7.50 area bidding some more
[09:41] {Roman} 21 NCOC continues
[09:44] {dino} bphx stopped
[09:46] {magoo} man..RIMM totally disconnected from naz here
[09:47] {Threei} ROYL doesn't look inspiring
[09:47] {Threei} who is up to second try on ESLR, .31 long if stays above .20
[09:47] {pita} gm all
[09:47] {Threei} pita :)
[09:47] {magoo} i am
[09:47] {dino} oil dropping fwiw
[09:47] {magoo} revenge
[09:48] {Threei} too bad you missed yesterday pita
[09:48] {Threei} that was pure "can do no wrong"
[09:49] {pita} just my luck
[09:49] {Threei} even Chaeron had Midas touch
[09:50] {Threei} and considering that he is known as plays killer, that tells you something {G}
[09:50] {pita} eslr good here?
[09:50] {Threei} yeah
[09:50] {Threei} stop is tight enough
[09:51] {esemde} I think i'm going to a small at .31 ESLR
[09:51] {pita} in .31
[09:51] {Threei} hard to believe it's not ready to squeeze yet
[09:51] {esemde} check screen just died
[09:51] {pita} stop?
[09:51] {Threei} news don't get better than that
[09:51] {Threei} chart's nice
[09:51] {Threei} short interest is over 20%
[09:52] {Threei} tempting barrier at 12 is just ahead12
[09:52] {Threei} what else does this thing need
[09:52] {esemde} Ok back on that ESLR Vad
[09:52] {Threei} yes sir
[09:52] {esemde} short interest 20%
[09:52] {Threei} it always traded viscously... but some day it should change its ways
[09:53] {peterg} vicious or viscous?
[09:53] {peterg} the one is mean, thje other gooey
[09:53] {Threei} viscous
[09:53] {peterg} gooey
[09:53] {Threei} [09:05] {Threei} always hated this viscosity in ESLR
[09:53] {Threei} [09:05] {Threei} as if there was an elastic band on its waist, tied to some pole behind it
[09:53] {peterg} sticky
[09:53] {esemde} leslr .30
[09:54] {esemde} thats long
[09:54] {Threei} PTEN
[09:54] {Threei} .50 break half lot long
[09:55] {Threei} if holding above .30
[09:55] {Threei} jeez
[09:55] {Threei} look at ROYL
[09:55] {Threei} thing just waited for me to stop watching it
[09:55] {dino} smts l .45
[09:56] {Threei} here is deal with PTEN
[09:56] {Threei} I call for half lot because it's not very safe stock,
[09:56] {Threei} but at the same time it has potential for more that scalp
[09:56] {Threei} so, if you are fine with this stop on full size, I'd suggest taking full lot,
[09:56] {Threei} scalping half,
[09:57] {Threei} and leaving other half for something like closer to 35
[09:57] {Threei} see this sharp tail on red bar?
[09:57] {Threei} this is what I mean by "not very safe"
[09:57] {_Lisa_Jay} eco data out at 10
[09:58] {esemde} looking at the ESLR Chart....that short interest may kick in seriously after 12 Vad...breakout of 3 month resistance would probably scare the crap out of them
[09:58] {Threei} - Note the bill was speculated to place certain trading limits on speculation, may aim to close certain abilities for bilateral swaps
[09:58] {Threei} exactly ese
[09:58] {esemde} 12 looks key to me
[09:58] {GeoArb} where do I look for short interest?
[09:59] {judijim} good morning all
[09:59] {Threei} [08:06] {Threei} 12 is huge resistance for it
[09:59] {Threei} [08:07] {Threei} if it ever breaks it, not much to keep it down
[09:59] {Threei} [08:07] {Threei} the only problem is, this stock is notorious for not holding gains
[09:59] {esemde} would probably run to about 14/15 i think
[09:59] {Threei} [08:09] {Threei} I don't know if today is the day... there are a lot of sellers in this one. But if it finally does break, we have a runner on our hands I believe
[09:59] {Threei} [08:10] {Threei} Short Percent of Float 23.54 %
[09:59] {Threei} jj :)
[10:00] {GeoArb} its on your platform vad?
[10:00] {esemde} yes i see what you mean with the may 22nd gap up
[10:00] {Threei} MAY LEADING INDICATORS: 0.1% V 0.0%E
[10:00] {Threei} just a sec geo
[10:00] {Threei} JUNE PHILADELPHIA INDEX: -17.1 V -10.0E
[10:01] {Threei}
[10:01] {GeoArb} ty
[10:02] {pita} stop eslr?
[10:02] {Threei} stopped
[10:02] {patience} vad, Largo Resources, LGO, on Vancouver exchange, look at chart today
[10:03] {Threei} [09:47] {Threei} who is up to second try on ESLR, .31 long if stays above .20
[10:03] {esemde} i'm still in with small lot ...i think this is worth holding onto
[10:03] {esemde} will consider adding more at some point
[10:04] {pita} misread
[10:04] {Threei} I guess not today
[10:05] {Roman} 21 stopped COIN
[10:05] {Roman} 21 -.24
[10:06] {Threei} keep stops tight guys, we had it too easy last few days
[10:07] {Threei} payback sooner or later comes inevitably, trader's job is keep damage to minimum
[10:08] {esemde} hmmm just noticed...ESLR has triple bottom.....very strong indicator for a swing long
[10:08] {dino} hun l .39
[10:09] {peterg} ROYL now?
[10:09] {Threei} can't read it
[10:11] {magoo} ah.RIMM reconnects to naz
[10:11] {magoo} but stronger
[10:14] {Threei} CSIQ, small shares long either on next dump under .50
[10:14] {Threei} or on 49 break if holding .75
[10:15] {Chaeron} Good morning all
[10:15] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:16] {Chaeron} was going to ask SQNM short under .75
[10:16] {magoo} chaerbroil:)
[10:17] {Chaeron} hey mags, ese:)
[10:17] {Threei} not sure SQNM
[10:17] {Chaeron} thanks Threei, good morning to you
[10:19] {Threei} maybe it's time to abandon solar sector for a while
[10:20] {Threei} all ideas that worked flawlessly in it over last days and weeks seem tired
[10:20] {peterg} just when I went long....
[10:20] {Threei} just no same oomh that pushed them all for us
[10:20] {magoo} all down vad..fslr,csun.solf jaso
[10:21] {Threei} look at USO spiking
[10:21] {magoo} meaning?
[10:21] {Threei} solars should follow
[10:21] {Threei} yet CSIQ following is fibble
[10:22] {Threei} SOLF is almost dead
[10:22] {Threei} JASO is dead without almost
[10:22] {magoo} is PTEN solar}?
[10:22] {peterg} go CSIQ
[10:22] {Threei} energy but not solar
[10:23] {magoo} oil?
[10:24] {dino} de sm l .60
[10:24] {magoo} took CSIQ .96 btw
[10:24] {Threei} provides onshore contract drilling services to exploration and production companies in North America. The Company has approximately 350 currently marketable land-based drilling rigs that operate primarily in oil and natural gas producing regions
[10:24] {magoo} .95 actually
[10:24] {peterg} go magoo
[10:24] {magoo} ah..ty..big demand there
[10:26] {Threei} I want them off the island
[10:27] {magoo} took PTEN off .43 btw
[10:27] {Threei} don't oversit CSIQ
[10:27] {magoo} lil aggressive entries
[10:27] {pita} will eslr follow?
[10:27] {magoo} ESLR blows
[10:27] {Threei} I'd leave it alone
[10:27] {magoo} CSIQ could rock
[10:27] {pita} been painful so far
[10:28] {Threei} PTEN looks good
[10:28] {magoo} indeed pten
[10:28] {Threei} you took full l,ot mags? or half?
[10:28] {peterg} out CSIQ + .66
[10:28] {Threei} wtg peter
[10:29] {dino} gj
[10:29] {peterg} greed sez go back for more but ill wait
[10:29] {magoo} half..i haven't played full lots in a month
[10:29] {magoo} to volatile
[10:29] {Threei} wait... let it come to you
[10:29] {Threei} OK... just wanted to remind that if full lot, dump half
[10:29] {Threei} 'cause you do tend to forget to sell {G}
[10:30] {magoo} waiting .90 CSIQ
[10:30] {peterg} hat off to you if you make it
[10:31] {magoo} take hat off..OUT
[10:31] {magoo} + .96
06[10:32] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:32] {peterg} wtg magoo
[10:32] {peterg} waving my stetson at you
[10:32] {Threei} just in time
[10:32] {Threei} look at it diving
[10:32] {Chaeron} gj magoo
[10:32] {dino} gj
[10:33] {magoo} i think laser was only .90 fill there lol
[10:35] {dino} out hun .20 +.81
[10:36] {Chaeron} nice one dino
[10:36] {dino} ty
[10:36] {magoo} wow ..dino is back with vengance
[10:36] {hawkfan4} nice dino
[10:36] {dino} ty
[10:38] {Threei} good one
[10:38] {Threei} scary too
[10:40] {Threei} sheesh ESLR
[10:41] {Threei} disgusting display of unreadability
[10:41] {cosmo} ..just like clockwork
[10:42] {GeoArb} uso has been consolidating on highs last couple of days
[10:43] {Threei} yeah... scary
[10:43] {GeoArb} oil going to break highs?
[10:43] {GeoArb} and market? :)
[10:43] {Threei} I am afraid so
[10:43] {magoo} out PTEN dime
[10:43] {GeoArb} well I am going to put my shorting shorts on
[10:43] {GeoArb} :)
[10:44] {_Lisa_Jay} ENT
[10:45] {peterg} Ear Nose and Throat
[10:46] {peterg} Sorry
[10:46] {Threei} lol
[10:46] {Threei} PEGA?
[10:46] {Threei} no news that I see
[10:47] {GeoArb} declares 0.03 dividend
[10:48] {Roman} 21 CHNR
[10:49] {Roman} 21 moving on the china news
[10:50] {Roman} 21 China Government says jet kerosene prices to increase by 25% - DJ
[10:50] {Roman} 21 CTDC on radar
[10:53] {Roman} 21 long CPSL
[10:53] {dino} ipi sm l .75
[10:53] {Roman} 21 5.20 1/2 size, stop 5.04\
[10:56] {magoo} just got off phone w/PTEN..nasty b*stard
[10:56] {Threei} PTEN reached 35
[10:56] {Threei} and ESLR, I don't even have words to describe its behavior
[10:57] {Roman} 21 long VNDA
[10:57] {Roman} 21 5.52 area
[10:58] {Roman} 21 long CSUN
[10:58] {Roman} 21 small 11.92 area
[10:59] {Roman} 21 cpsl
[11:02] {magoo} CSIQ should go green..not in
[11:03] {Roman} 21 CHNR thin one
[11:04] {Roman} 21 would not be surprised if goes to $24 today
[11:04] {dino} out ipi .15 +.40
[11:04] {dino} out de .20, +.6-
[11:04] {dino} +.60
[11:05] {Threei} wtg
[11:05] {Threei} beautiful hitting rate
[11:05] {Threei} I am cold as cucumber today
[11:05] {dino} just lucky
[11:05] {Roman} 21 CPSL looking for $5.6
[11:09] {Threei} ZION
[11:09] {esemde} Ok I'mm otta here everyone...gving 2 exams...still long ESLR...much different looking bar than the may 22nd gap up
[11:09] {Threei} .83 short
[11:09] {Threei} if stays under 31
[11:10] {Threei} take care ese :)
[11:10] {esemde} see ya vad have a great fday
[11:10] {Chaeron} bye ese
[11:10] {Roman} 21 C Citigroup on corporate call says they could face another credit value adjustment similar to last qtr from monoline exposure (20.11 -0.29) -Update-
[11:10] {Threei} I am scared even to think what he meant by fday
[11:10] {Chaeron} heheh
[11:10] {hawkfan4} lol
[11:11] {hawkfan4} C
[11:12] {hawkfan4} 11:09 C Citigroup on corporate call says they could face another credit value adjustment similar to last qtr from monoline exposure (20.11 -0.29) -Update
[11:15] {Threei} valid again ZION
[11:21] {magoo} u finally gonna get one right vad?
[11:21] {magoo} as i run dfor nearest rock to hide
[11:21] {Threei} run faster
[11:21] {_Lisa_Jay} Trout Magoo?
06[11:22] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:22] {Chaeron} I 'm already behind this one... find another magoo
[11:22] {GeoArb} i thought today was opposited day
[11:22] {GeoArb} i made money on all of them
[11:22] {Threei} lol
[11:22] {Threei} good job then
[11:22] {dino} c going to 15 then\
[11:22] {magoo} :)
[11:23] {Threei} not sure why you are smiling magoo... didn't you see chaeron suggesting that we find another magoo??
[11:23] {magoo} tricky morning...vad always bounces back
[11:23] {magoo} i thought he meant magoo find another rock
[11:23] {GeoArb} (picturing vad bouncing)
[11:24] {Chaeron} hmmmmm
[11:24] {Chaeron} or did I...?
[11:24] {dino} sm l .60 bucy
[11:24] {Threei} I know... but I deliberately elected different interpretation :)
[11:24] {magoo} on a tramoline in skivvies
[11:24] {Threei} careful Geo... that image may burn one's retina :)
[11:25] {Chaeron} you guys mind? I'm trying to have my oatmeal here...........
[11:25] {GeoArb} lol
[11:25] {Threei} lol
[11:25] {Threei} oh and btw... what do you mean "get one right"? what about PTEN and CSIQ?
[11:25] {GeoArb} those were observations (runing fast....)
[11:26] {Threei} sigh... can't win, can I
[11:26] {Threei} eevn asigned target to PTEN which I seldom do
[11:26] {_Lisa_Jay} ZION working now.
[11:26] {Threei} and ZION makes new low
[11:28] {GeoArb} i have been scaling in these days.....i like it
[11:28] {dino} smts stopped -.15]
[11:30] {Threei} over 1:1 now
06[11:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[11:30] * Threei slaps GeoArb around a bit with a large trout
[11:31] {GeoArb} (accepts it humbly)
[11:31] {Threei} you better... I had another one prepared in case you wouldn't
[11:31] {magoo} didn't take zion..thought u were off today lol
[11:31] {GeoArb} i saw in chat logs you were looking for me with a trout at EOD?
[11:31] {GeoArb} lololol
[11:31] {Threei} yes
[11:32] {Threei} I wasn't completely sure why
[11:32] {Threei} but thankfully, today you helped me rationalize that desire :)
[11:32] {Threei} ESLR - I need a tissue
[11:35] {magoo} man..pass the box over vbad
[11:36] {Threei} I can't believe it fooled me like this
[11:37] {Threei} and USO dropped
[11:37] {Threei} whatever... world is not right
[11:38] {Chaeron} sigh
[11:43] {Chaeron} first Threei says that and then I read this:
[11:44] {dino} ipi fast fall
[11:45] {dino} sm l .24
[11:57] {Threei} so... ready to try this slime for 12 break?
[11:59] {hawkfan4} still in from .30 {ducks}
[11:59] {Threei} so is ese
[12:03] {Threei} I am out 2/3 here
[12:03] {Threei} 1/3 with stop .85
[12:04] {pita} later all
[12:04] {Threei} take care pita
[12:04] {hawkfan4} 1/2 out +1
[12:04] {Threei} wtg
[12:05] {hawkfan4} took a couple stops before i got it
[12:05] {dino} gj
[12:05] {dino} magoo said you were hot yesterday
[12:06] {hawkfan4} thx. yep, best day of the year by a bunch
[12:06] {dino} super
[12:09] {magoo} if IF ESLR prints 13 today i cut my wrists with a banana
[12:09] {Threei} and I'll eat my keyboard
[12:17] {dino} bucy stop to .99
[12:17] {Threei} trailing to .95
[12:18] {hawkfan4} starting to feel wrong that i'm rooting for oil to rally
[12:18] {Threei} hehe
[12:18] {Threei} the depth of pullback on this thing can be frightening... if it loses 12 I'll just dump it and let it be
[12:19] {dino} out .00, +.40
[12:23] {hawkfan4} out .06
[12:25] {Threei} even though I am positive for the day, I can't get rid of feeling that I am trading like a caw in ice today :)
[12:25] {Threei} cow on ice
[12:25] {GeoArb} thank you
[12:25] {GeoArb} i was thinking caw must be a canadian specie
[12:26] {Threei} no but my typing is
[12:26] {_Lisa_Jay} My trading is like that. Must be contageous.
[12:26] {Threei} lol
[12:26] {Chaeron} I thought it was a reference to Raven
[12:27] {GeoArb} lol
[12:27] {Threei} Raven vehemently denies having any links to caws
[12:28] {magoo} is a crow and raven same bird?seriously
[12:28] {Threei} not by raven
[12:31] {Raven} 3 sheesh
[12:32] {_Lisa_Jay} Sorry, got kicked out and had to reboot.
[12:33] {Chaeron} dang Vad, kicking a trialer? not good for PR
[12:35] {_Lisa_Jay} :-) No my trading platform did not like being associated with a cow (me).
[12:35] {Threei} I am not good at marketing
[12:41] {Threei} who would expect tech stock to make new 52 week highs in this climate
[12:41] {Threei} QCOM
[12:43] {magoo} i would suspect csiq has a bounce in it somewhere
[12:43] {fernp} out PAET +.09 i like this kind of easy scalp :)
[12:44] {Threei} nice setup fern
[12:44] {Threei} clean and easy
[12:44] {fernp} TY
[12:44] {Threei} - If offered, such liquidity should be limited and focused on systemic risk.
[12:44] {Threei} - Must ensure that any new regulatory authority does not undermine market discipline.
[12:44] {magoo} raven, are they same species?
[12:45] {GeoArb} all ravens are crows
[12:45] {GeoArb} but all crows arent racens
[12:45] {GeoArb} ravens
[12:47] {Threei} for give them Raven, for they know not what they are saying
[12:48] {magoo} for give?
[12:48] {Threei} sigh
[12:48] {Threei} I mean, si gh
[12:48] {hawkfan4} l ol
[12:56] {Raven} 3 two different species magoo
[12:56] {magoo} look same right?
[12:56] {Raven} 3 similar
[12:57] {Raven} 3 several species of crows
[12:57] {Raven} 3 several species of ravens
[12:57] {GeoArb} raven is a specie of crow
[12:57] {Raven} 3 wrong
[12:57] {Raven} 3 they are of the same Genus
[12:57] {Raven} 3 Corvus
[12:57] {GeoArb} ravens belong to crow (corvus) family
[12:58] {Raven} 3 Genus is Corvus
[12:58] {Threei} I am so not good at botany...
[12:58] {GeoArb} exactly
[12:58] {GeoArb} crow is the generic term
[12:59] {Raven} 3 Family is Corvidae
[12:59] {GeoArb} yo have ravents magpies etc
[12:59] {Raven} 3 I am Corvus corax
[12:59] {Threei} Corvidae is family... Corleone is family...
[12:59] {Raven} 3 yes ... they are of family Corvidae
06[12:59] * Raven slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:59] {GeoArb} lol
[13:00] {GeoArb} neways i am not vested in this
[13:00] {Threei} was that rainbow trout family or steelhead trout family?
[13:00] {GeoArb} my impression is crow is the generic group
[13:00] {GeoArb} i may be wrong but ok
[13:00] {Raven} 3 your impression is inaccurate
[13:00] {Chaeron} surprisingly, this is one of the most intelligent conversations off the topic of investing this room has ever had...
[13:00] {Threei} lol
[13:00] {Raven} 3 TRhx Ch :)
[13:01] {Raven} 3 thx too
[13:01] {Threei} you mean my global warming tirades were not intelligent?
[13:01] {Threei} or not illegible?
[13:02] {GeoArb} but you goota tell us whay that name now raven
[13:03] {magoo} and who introduced it ? lol
[13:03] {Raven} 3 ? Geo
[13:04] {GeoArb} the nickname raven
[13:04] {Raven} 3 why ? Uh, because I like Ravens
[13:04] {GeoArb} easy enough :)
[13:04] {Raven} 3 yup
[13:04] {Threei} and guess why hawkfan is hawkfan
[13:04] {GeoArb} thats easy
[13:05] {GeoArb} chaeron?
[13:05] {Threei} dino has a soft spot for T-Rex
[13:05] {hawkfan4} actually that was supposed to be my password but i screwed up when i entered it
[13:05] {Threei} rofl
[13:05] {GeoArb} lolol
[13:06] {Raven} 3 this is degenerating ... I will take a shower
[13:06] {Threei} it's good Raven, it means business is as usual
[13:06] {Threei} now... _3579 is real mystery
[13:07] {Threei} if it's love to odd numbers, what happened to 1?
[13:08] {_3579} lol
[13:10] {GeoArb} back
[13:11] {hawkfan4} trying ESLR again, stop under .90
[13:11] {Threei} lowr high...
[13:11] {Threei} but what do I know, I misread this stock completely
[13:12] {Threei} don't pay much attention to my comments on it
[13:12] {Threei} or on botany
[13:12] {hawkfan4} hee
[13:12] {GeoArb} btw i see where my (false) impression is coming from
[13:12] {GeoArb} A large majority of the 40 or so Corvus species are known as crows,
[13:12] {Threei} about me having third eye in the center of forehead?
[13:12] {GeoArb}
[13:13] {GeoArb} remember vad yo gotta always keep that eye closed
[13:13] {Threei} I tape it over
[13:19] {Threei} ENER
[13:19] {Threei} want deep nice pullback for long entry
[13:27] {Threei} not much of pullback so far
[13:27] {Threei} but I am hesitant to buy break on it
[13:29] {Threei} would be comfortable somewhere in 77 - 77.50 area
[13:30] {Threei} look at 1 min on it to see what kind of cruel airpockets it's capable of
[13:39] {Raven} 3 back ... Geo ... wrong again on the Corvidae
[13:41] {GeoArb} I accepted i am wrong... merely pointed a source where the confusion occurs
[13:41] {Raven} 3 4 Corvidae of 19 are Crows
[13:41] {Threei} the rest are mosquitos
[13:41] {Raven} 3 source ... schmorce
[13:41] {Raven} 3 burn that encyclopedia
[13:42] {Threei} can you burn an online version?
[13:42] {Raven} 3 hire a hacker
[13:42] {Threei} lol
[13:42] {GeoArb} did anyone buy ener on pullback?
[13:43] {Threei} was not deep enough for me
[13:43] {Threei} I was rather looking at the kind that occured twice earlier
[13:43] {Threei} 9:40 - 9:50
[13:44] {Threei} then 11:08 - 11:15
[13:44] {GeoArb} ah
[13:44] {Threei} but look how breakout would have trapped you
[13:44] {GeoArb} or rather ahhhhhhhh it hurts !!!
[13:46] {Raven} 3 Geo ... your reference might be referring to Corvids worldwide ... I am referring to North America only
[13:47] {GeoArb} thank you for that out :)
[13:47] {_Lisa_Jay} Breaking down now? Market.
[13:47] {Raven} 3 I'm guessing though
[13:47] {Threei} ok, this pullback is more to my liking
[13:47] {Threei} need panic now
[13:47] {Threei} far from it lisa
[13:47] {Threei} still very close to the high
[13:48] {Threei} will it drop from here or consolidate and break out is anyone's guess
[13:49] {_Lisa_Jay} Falg or double top on NQ
[13:49] {dino} out ipi .05 +.81
[13:49] {magoo} how come u never think to short the anticipated pullbk?
[13:49] {GeoArb} i love dino's style
[13:50] {Threei} I need indication of it starting
[13:50] {GeoArb} pacman.... keeps chomping along
[13:50] {Threei} with ENER, there was none, ranges are too wide
[13:50] {dino} lol geo
[13:50] {Threei} lol
[13:50] {Threei} T-Rex Pacman
[13:51] {GeoArb} steady bites throut the day
[13:51] {Threei} dino just plugs along, whatever happens
[13:51] {GeoArb} yup
[13:51] {dino} stress free trading
[13:51] {Threei} my favorite kind
[13:51] {GeoArb} wish i get there some day
[13:51] {_Lisa_Jay} Dino wanted to thank you for your comment about the "probabilities" and "throw all book learning out" comments.
[13:51] {Threei} you will Geo
[13:52] {dino} yw lisa
[13:52] {_Lisa_Jay} Read your posts on old chat room logs. Stopped buying more books much to the delight of my spouse.
[13:52] {GeoArb} hehe
[13:52] {GeoArb} link lisa?
[13:52] {Threei} I'll have to insert a correction here... "throw out all books but TTR and MPP" {G}
[13:52] {dino} lol, fwiw, the less i know coming into each day the better i trade
[13:52] {GeoArb} lol
[13:53] {Threei} this is very true dino
[13:53] {dino} i used to get up at 6:00 am, watch the news until markets opened at 9;30 am, now get up at 6:30, read local paper and go for 2 mile walk
[13:53] {Threei} it's through many complications that we come to this simplicity
[13:54] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. I have been following vad's style for past month and am finally green since i started trading.
[13:54] {Threei} but when you are there you won't trade it for all the knowledge in the world
[13:54] {dino} great to hear
[13:54] {Threei} one thing about TTR and MPP that makes them different
[13:54] {Threei} they are not written be academic who never traded
[13:55] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[13:55] {Threei} nor by someone who may be a trader but have written a book in order to look more than he is or get in the cicrles where you need to have a book out
[13:55] {GeoArb} youre saying you didnt pay the ghostwriter?
[13:55] {Threei} it's a practical things
[13:56] {Threei} I have meny e-mails saying something to the effect:
[13:57] {magoo} ghost rider? hey, that was magoo this past weekend
[13:57] {Threei} reading it I felt as though you looked over my shoulder
[13:58] {_Lisa_Jay} You seemed to have experienced all the emotions at one time or another in your trading.
[13:58] {Threei} sure... name the mistake, I made it
[14:00] {magoo} u ever spill a coke on keyboartd
[14:00] {Threei} coffee
[14:00] {Threei} remember blackout on East Coast?
[14:01] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:01] {_Lisa_Jay} down
[14:01] {Threei} ENER is doing it
[14:02] {hawkfan4} stopped eslr
[14:02] {Threei} move your butt SATC... daddy needs new lens for his camera
[14:04] {magoo} did u call SATC today?
[14:05] {Threei} b*tched about not taking it yesterda when it opened with gap... then took pullback 3.10
[14:05] {Threei} I posted it
[14:05] {magoo} ok
[14:06] {Threei} it his 3.32 before open
[14:07] {magoo} CSIQ for a bounce vad??
[14:07] {Threei} feels to me like destined to lose 48
[14:07] {Threei} after that maybe
[14:08] {peterg} Networking monitors--MaxiVista?
[14:08] {Threei} alternatively, if it pulls back not too deep from here, then break .45-.50
[14:08] {Threei} what's that peter?
[14:08] {peterg} a way to network monitors
[14:08] {Threei} never heard
[14:08] {peterg} one mouse rules all machines.
[14:09] {Threei} machines?
[14:09] {peterg} computers
[14:09] {Threei} it's one machine, 4 monitors for me
[14:09] {peterg} how networked?
[14:09] {peterg} plugged
[14:09] {Threei} two videocards, 2 heads each
[14:09] {peterg} I see
[14:09] {Threei} Nvidia
[14:09] {peterg} heard of it
[14:10] {Threei} install their drivers, go to Display - Properties - Advanced, make one monitor primary and extened Windows to three others
[14:10] {Threei} that's it, simple like rake
[14:11] {peterg} MaxiVista supposed to do same
[14:11] {peterg} Will report
[14:13] {Threei} too sharp spike into rtesistance CSIQ
[14:13] {Threei} not sure
[14:13] {Threei} I like them coming into break more smoothly
[14:13] {_Lisa_Jay} ener?
[14:14] {dino} ipi l .70
[14:17] {Threei} nah
[14:17] {Threei} never saw aentry
[14:19] {magoo} if solars get active csiq should bounce..not in
[14:20] {Threei} actually, CSIQ is likely to lead that bounce
[14:20] {magoo} i thought maybe FSLR lead
[14:21] {Threei} last few days FSLR sat in the basement while CSIQ took the charge
[14:21] {Threei} latest leader
[14:21] {Threei} they trade places
[14:22] {Threei} probably worth a try here with stop under .30
[14:22] {Threei} just keep it small
[14:23] {magoo} in
[14:23] {magoo} .50
[14:27] {Threei} good boy CSIQ
[14:31] {magoo} don';t praise it yet
[14:31] {Threei} it moved over 1:2
[14:31] {magoo} oh come on
[14:32] {magoo} small shares remember
[14:32] {Threei} ahhh... you don't take anything less than coupla points...
[14:32] {dino} anss
[14:32] {Threei} 50 cents, sheesh... small shares is not 10 shares right?
[14:33] {magoo} 300
[14:33] {magoo} sh
[14:36] {dino} out ipi .30 +.60
[14:36] {Threei} nice
[14:36] {Threei} half out SATC
[14:37] {dino} ty
[14:37] {Threei} 2 more cents and it takes 52 week high
[14:57] {magoo} sidetracked, out csiq awhile back at .72
[14:57] {magoo} ty vad
[14:58] {Threei} we (yawn) lcome
[15:08] {dino} anss s .50 sm
[15:08] {Threei} what good is he then?
[15:09] {Threei} pleasant drop oil
[15:09] {Threei} how about drop 10 points and start widespread panic
[15:11] {magoo} u using USO to watch oil?
[15:13] {Threei} real time yes, to see the price itself -
[15:14] {cosmo} 105 pivot
[15:27] {dino} anss bstop to .10
[15:27] {dino} cov +.40
[15:31] {cosmo} SLAB maybe
[15:33] {dino} bucy l .30
[15:34] {_Lisa_Jay} where would your stop on Bucy be Dino?
[15:38] {dino} ,97
[15:39] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you.
[15:39] {dino} np
[15:40] {dino} generally i run stops .30-.37, and look to get min. .40 out of trade
[15:44] {dino} thing is whippy goes from .17 to .37 and back in seconds
[15:45] {_Lisa_Jay} yes.
[15:48] {magoo} ok..ty vad..everybody
[15:49] {_Lisa_Jay} Bye Magoo.
[15:49] {Threei} take care mags
[15:49] {peterg} Bye
[15:49] {Threei} profitable day even though not as spectacular as a few before
[15:50] {Threei} not really complaining
[15:50] {dino} running out of time on bucy, will cut it soon regardless
[15:51] {Threei} will take second half of SATC overnight
[15:51] {Threei} hopefully it announces some 2-bil contract and opens at 10
[15:51] {dino} stop to .19 on bucy
[15:52] {dino} stopped -.11, sorry lisa
[15:52] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[15:53] {_Lisa_Jay} Considering where it is now, that was a good exit.
[15:53] {dino} lol lucky
[15:54] {dino} will watch it tomorrow
[15:54] {_Lisa_Jay} Are u using hard stop in the system or manually kill trade?
[15:54] {dino} on naz hard stops on dow stocks, manual
[15:54] {dino} some reason, dow stocks rinse my hard stops all the time
[15:55] {_Lisa_Jay} because they can see the stop on nyse?
[15:55] {dino} i think so
[15:56] {dino} ok, calling it a day, thx all, good one
[15:56] {Threei} thank you all
[15:56] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:56] {_Lisa_Jay} Thanks a lot Vad.
[15:56] {dino} wow bucy drops more
[15:56] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.