Friday, January 9, 2009

Jan 9 2009

It was a good day until LEN short came along... and the day became fantastic - not every day scaleprs make $1.40 on a single trade in minutes. All in all, first trading week of 2009 is a pure beauty - no single losing day.

[08:59] {Threei}  08:12am Baltic Dry Bulk Index up 6.2%, a fourth straight advance
[08:59] {Threei}  DRYS looks like another rally in cards
[08:59] {Threei}  likely to bust through resistance now
[08:59] {Threei}  there... .93 offer is taken in one gulp
[08:59] {Threei}  16 wasn't a big problem either
[08:59] {Threei}  if we get so lucky to have a shot at it on pullback into .40-.50 area...
[08:59] {Threei}  DEC CHANGE IN NONFARM PAYROLLS: -524K V -525KE; CHANGE IN MANUFACTURING PAYROLLS: -149K V -100KE
[08:59] {Threei}  - Prior Nov Nonfarm revised Lower from -533K to -584K
[08:59] {Threei}  - Prior Nov Manufacturing revised from -85K to -104K
[08:59] {Threei}  DEC UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: 7.2% V 7.0%E
[08:59] {Threei}  - Prior revised from 6.7% to 6.8%
[08:59] {Threei}  - last 7.0% reading in unemply rate was Jun 1993
[08:59] {Threei}  how about that, DRYS
[08:59] {Onix} Good morning all
[08:59] {Threei}  onix :)
[08:59] {Threei}  cosmo, look dcc please
[08:59] {i2romantis} morning guys
[08:59] {Threei}  i2r :)
[08:59] {i2romantis} yes, DRYS, that's just crazy
[08:59] {hawkfan4} gm all 
[08:59] {Threei}  hawk :)
[08:59] {Onix} hi hawk
[08:59] {hawkfan4} morning Onix
[08:59] {Threei}  looking at numbers, I am not sure I see what caused such enthusiasm
[08:59] {Threei}  OCNF got away
[08:59] {lisa_jay} Good morning.
[08:59] {Threei}  lisa :)
[08:59] {dawg} gm all
[08:59] {Threei}  dawg :)
[08:59] {lisa_jay} Hi Dawg.
[08:59] {dawg} hi Lisa
[08:59] {Onix} hi dawg
[08:59] {dawg} hi Onix
[08:59] {Larisa1} good morning :)
[08:59] {Threei}  Larisa :)
[08:59] {Larisa1} threei :)
[08:59] {Onix} morning Larisa
[08:59] {Larisa1} gm Onix :)
[08:59] {wishbone} good morning
[08:59] {Larisa1} wish :)
[09:00] {wishbone} hello Larisa
[09:03] {Threei}  wish :)
[09:06] {_jamie} hello
[09:06] {Threei}  hi jamie
[09:06] {Threei}  welcome
[09:06] {_jamie} Hi.
[09:06] {KSystems} hey jamie
[09:06] {patience} good morning RT  :)
[09:06] {Threei}  patience :)
[09:07] {_jamie} Hi everybody..i have looked at this blog many afternoons, wishing I had been here earlier.
[09:07] {Threei}  well... what kept you?? :)
[09:07] {_jamie} Ok, a couple of weeks worth then:)
[09:07] {dino} gm all
[09:07] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:08] {Geo} good morning fellow speculators...
[09:09] {dino} welcome jamie
[09:09] {_jamie} Hi there dino
[09:09] {Threei}  geo :)
[09:11] {Onix} morning wish; jamie; patience; dino & geo
[09:12] {_jamie} :)
[09:12] {patience} tgif Onix   :)
[09:12] {dino} :)
[09:12] {dptl} good morning all
[09:13] {wishbone} hey onix
[09:13] {Onix} tgif patience?
[09:13] {Onix} hi dp
[09:14] {dptl} :)
[09:14] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:14] {magoo} mornink comrades
[09:15] {dino} apol beat, maybe coco (the monkey) and cpla will react
[09:15] {Onix} hi magoo :)
[09:15] {wishbone} anybody see spies like us w/ chevy chase and dan akroyd?
[09:15] {hawkfan4} doctor, doctor, doctor, doctor...
[09:15] {wishbone} lol....exactly......hawk
[09:16] {dino} ebs
[09:16] {hawkfan4} :) 
[09:16] {Threei}  magoo :)
[09:16] {dino} long time ago wish
[09:16] {wishbone} i think of that scene every morning
[09:16] {hawkfan4} me too wish, cracks me up
[09:17] {wishbone} me too
[09:17] {Threei}  OK guys, clearly DRYS is a player again
[09:17] {ese} morning team......
[09:18] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:18] {Onix} hi ese
[09:18] {Threei}  ese, you missed yesterday's warning about switch to another chat host coming
[09:18] {magoo} have u taken DRYS premkt boss?
[09:19] {Threei}  please send me an e-mail with "login: in subject line, and your nick and password
[09:19] {Threei}  yes mag
[09:19] {magoo} u in noiw?
[09:20] {ese} anyone made mention of APOL......up 10....price target of 100 ...was at 77
[09:21] {Threei}  just 100 shares left mags, fed it out on the way up
[09:21] {hawkfan4} [08:15] {dino} apol beat, maybe coco (the monkey) and cpla will react
[09:21] {Threei}  but I was in at 15.85
[09:21] {ese} what does that mean vad?....switch to another host
[09:21] {Threei}  so don't even think about chasing it here
[09:21] {Threei}  current chat host experiences technical difficulties and doesn't seem capable of resolving them
[09:22] {wishbone} never bought pre-market. is it the same as during trading hours with margin or do u have to use cash? anyone
[09:22] {Threei}  it's been 9 years with them so no one can call me disloyal :)
[09:22] {Threei}  but it's time to switch
[09:23] {ese} gotta do what ya gotta do.........
[09:24] {Threei}  yes
[09:24] {Threei}  we are aiming to do the switch over the weekend
[09:24] {Threei}  if everything goes smoothly, we will:
[09:24] {Threei}  1. send an e-mail to all of ya
[09:24] {Threei}  2. post new way to connect at www.realitytrader.com/tradingroom
[09:25] {Threei}  bortom of the page, where login instructions are
[09:25] {magoo} wish, pre & post same as normal margin..BUT mkts thin..extremely volatile
[09:25] {wishbone} ok ty magoo. cash only applies to overnight then.
[09:27] {magoo} correct
[09:31] {Threei}  DRYS is beyond this universe
[09:32] {magoo} its leaving the station without us
[09:33] {Geo} de\
[09:33] {Geo} de
[09:33] {Threei}  OK
[09:33] {Threei}  pullback into .50 .60 area
[09:33] {Threei}  half lot
[09:34] {Threei}  get ready
[09:34] {Threei}  one more leg down
[09:35] {Threei}  if no more, .85 long with stop under .70
[09:35] {Threei}  OK, this I like more than break
[09:36] {Threei}  in
[09:36] {Threei}  .45
[09:36] {Threei}  stop under .30
[09:36] {Threei}  not yet
[09:36] {KSystems} stopped
[09:37] {Threei}  argh
[09:37] {Threei}  shake
[09:37] {dino} afam
[09:37] {dino} ebs lod
[09:37] {Geo} heheheh
[09:37] {Geo} got it
[09:37] {dino} gtiv
[09:37] {Geo} was late on stop out
[09:37] {Threei}  that was rude
[09:38] {_jamie} in 16.50
[09:38] {Geo} out .67
[09:38] {Threei}  take profit jamie
[09:38] {Threei}  risk is too high here
[09:38] {_jamie} ok just did
[09:38] {Threei}  wtg
[09:38] {_jamie} at .75
[09:38] {Geo} wierd spiky rinse
[09:38] {_jamie} I didn't like the indexes
[09:39] {Geo} OK DRYS is certifiable
[09:39] {dino} gg
[09:39] {Threei}  let it be for now
[09:40] {wishbone} wow gg
[09:40] {Threei}  commodities are not very happy
[09:41] {Geo} FAN highest sector
[09:41] {_jamie} palm rising more
[09:41] {wishbone} what's fan geo?
[09:41] {Threei}  yeah. PALM resurrection
[09:41] {Threei}  LEN
[09:41] {Threei}  HEARING 'FRAUD DISCOVERY INSTITUTE' RAISING RED FLAGS CONCERNING THE COMPANY (TIMING UNCERTAIN)
[09:41] {Geo} wind
[09:42] {Onix} what about that RIMM hey
[09:42] {Threei}  let's see if we can find LEN short entry
[09:42] {Threei}  .60 breakdown
[09:42] {Threei}  if stays under .80
[09:43] {dino} 8651; 1223, 896 all lod yesterday
[09:43] {Threei}  if triggers from here, stop .75
[09:43] {dptl} in
[09:45] {Threei}  let's partial, this one is capable of more than scalp
[09:45] {Geo} half out
[09:45] {dptl} out +.15 ty
[09:45] {Threei}  nicely over 1:1
[09:46] {Threei}  covering 1/4 .25
[09:47] {Geo} all out .2
[09:47] {Geo} .4 thanks lord vader
[09:47] {Threei}  welcome sir
[09:47] {Geo} hmm not listening to indexes
[09:47] {_jamie} How about drys long?
[09:48] {hawkfan4} sorry, have to do it, beauty Vad
[09:48] {Geo} lol hawk
[09:48] {_jamie} oh my gosh
[09:48] {wishbone} len cov 1/2 +.14, 1/4 +30, 1/4 +.65 ty vad
[09:48] {Geo} wow scalpers regret
[09:49] {KSystems} this is getting kinda boring :)
[09:49] {Threei}  all out 9..20
[09:49] {Threei}  help me with math
[09:49] {Geo} 1.4
[09:49] {Threei}  +1.40?
[09:49] {_jamie} WOW
[09:49] {wishbone} nice
[09:49] {Threei}  can I go home?
[09:49] {KSystems} LEN out 1/2 .43 out 1/4 .27 out rest 9.23
[09:49] * Geo slaps _jamie around a bit with a large golden sceptre
[09:49] {KSystems} marveillous, vad
[09:50] * Geo slaps Threei around a bit with a large gold sack
[09:50] {tomg} thanks vad
[09:50] {Geo} sorry jamie
[09:50] * Threei slaps KSystems around a bit with a large warning not to make too much money lest market gets scared and stops playing with him
[09:50] {hawkfan4} out last 8.52, holy moolah
[09:50] {Threei}  jeez hawk
[09:50] {dino} s&p break
[09:50] {wishbone} nice hawk
[09:50] {_jamie} no it's cool...I didn't go short and I'm quite upset..
[09:50] {hawkfan4} thx :)
[09:51] {tomg} me too 8.52 
[09:51] {hawkfan4} nice
[09:51] * Geo banging his head against wall
[09:51] {Threei}  why no jamie... just 15 cents stop, horrible news, breakdown
[09:51] {Threei}  can it get any better for short?
[09:51] {Threei}  sheesh PALM
[09:51] {_jamie} Incredible job Vad....i am not presently as conversant with the short side
[09:52] {KSystems} jamie dont worry, more will follow ;)
[09:52] {wishbone} ok Vad lesson learnt
[09:52] {Threei}  it's the same as long, just revresed order
[09:52] {dino} mygn sm l .02
[09:52] {Threei}  going long you buy first, sell later
[09:52] {Threei}  going shoet you sell first, buy later :)
[09:52] {_jamie} I know it....this is an amazing day...lots of plays. 
[09:52] {Threei}  WOW
[09:53] {Threei}  I just noticed what market did while we played with our toys
[09:53] {Threei}  US REP FRANK: DRAFT OF TARP BILL INCLUDING COMPENSATION LIMITS, AID TO COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND AUTOMAKERS TO BE RELEASED LATER TODAY
[09:53] {Threei}  - Updates to TRAP will need to have 'certain minimum amount' set aside for home foreclosure aide
[09:54] {Threei}  look how resilient DRYS is
[09:54] {dino} mygn stop .92 -.10
[09:55] {hawkfan4} COCO coiling
[09:55] {Threei}  mama... we are 25 minutes into trading day, and might just as well go home
[09:56] {Onix} please don't
[09:56] {_jamie} Things have quieted down...who's ready for lunch?
[09:56] {Threei}  lol
[09:56] {Geo} i think vad's sneakyly sstarting a new trend
[09:56] {Threei}  sneakily?
[09:56] {Geo} throw money at the guys and leave
[09:56] {Threei}  I am crying about retirement for years
[09:56] {Geo} guys/gals
[09:56] {KSystems} LOL
[09:56] {dino} -5% since wed
[09:57] {Geo} retirement is for slackers vad
[09:57] {Threei}  geo... would you rather prefer I stay and bring no money? :)
[09:57] {Geo} i didnt say it was bad
[09:57] {Geo} you caould then stay and "guide"
[09:58] {Threei}  PALM...
[09:58] {Threei}  break or double top...
[09:58] {Threei}  grrr... break
[09:58] {KSystems} too fast for me
[09:58] {Threei}  it's been so long since this thing traded with any decency, I unlearned to trade it
[09:58] {_jamie} Palm has a daily gap bigger than the Snake River
[09:59] {tomg} len again vad?
[09:59] {Geo} just realeased a new gadget
[09:59] {Geo} suppossed t be good
[09:59] {Threei}  I wouln't tim
[09:59] {Threei}  tom, sorry
[09:59] {tomg} ok ty
[10:00] {Threei}  OK, when was last time you had a portion of bs poured on you?
[10:00] {Threei}  here comes:
[10:00] {Threei}  (US) WHITE HOUSE PRESS SEC: ACTIONS TAKEN TO AIDE ECONOMY WILL TAKE TIME BEFORE THEIR FULL EFFECTS ARE FELT
[10:00] {Threei}  - US citizens need to 'have faith' that the economy will recover
[10:00] {Threei}  need to have faith?
[10:00] {Onix} like every day!
[10:00] {Threei}  we have faith it will recover if you stop screwing with it
[10:01] {cosmo} a fifth?
[10:01] {Threei}  RIMM
[10:01] {Threei}  aww
[10:02] {Threei}  late
[10:04] {dino} wynn sm l .95
[10:08] {Threei}  some more details on LEN
[10:08] {Threei}  HEARING 'FRAUD DISCOVERY INSTITUTE' RAISING RED FLAGS CONCERNING THE COMPANY (TIMING UNCERTAIN)
[10:08] {Threei}  - Red flags addressed concern company's joint ventures allegedly operating like Ponzi schme, and company has continued to provide vague and less than transparent responses to the SEC about off balance sheet and joint venture debt
[10:09] {Threei}  I would stay away from short side
[10:09] {Threei}  too high risk of denial, CNBC comment etc
[10:09] {Threei}  can jump very fast
[10:10] {Threei}  US BANK INDUSTRY GROUP REITERATES OPPOSITION TO PROPOSED BY US SENATE PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW BANKRUPTCY JUDGES TO ALTER MORTGAGE TERMS
[10:10] {Threei}  - Note: 1.08 -Senators release details of mortgage modification plan: Asking to modify bankruptcy laws to allow for additional mortgage modifications
[10:10] {Threei}  - Would incentivize banks to rewrite mortgages to try and prevent bankruptcies
[10:10] {Threei}  US bank industry group dares to oppose something?
[10:10] {Threei}  where the hell is my machine gun
[10:11] {hawkfan4} lol
[10:12] {tomg} palm vad?
[10:13] {Threei}  I would feel much safer with deep juicy pullback
[10:13] {tomg} ok ty
[10:13] {Threei}  this thing was abandoned and almost written off for sop long,
[10:13] {dino} take the cash and flip them off
[10:14] {Threei}  its re-entrance in market with some relevant product caused a lot of enthusiasm
[10:14] {Threei}  but still, it's not 1999
[10:14] {Threei}  such extended moves rarely get extendeer, if I may say so
[10:16] {Threei}  OK, that's better
[10:17] {Threei}  can start trying for bounce
[10:17] {Threei}  stop narturally under 6
[10:17] {Threei}  take scalp or partial if got it around .15
[10:18] {Threei}  I don't call it exaclly, this is different kind of play
[10:18] {Threei}  either you got a feel for bounce in the area I can outline, or stay away
[10:18] {Threei}  DREYS sharpo drop
[10:19] {Threei}  DRYS
[10:21] {ese} DAAAAAAA......HWAY.....always the spread of 5 to 10 cents from11.80 on up ....could not get in
[10:21] {Threei}  from under 6 now
[10:21] {Threei}  if holding above 5.90, then on re-crossing 6
[10:22] {Threei}  if loses 5.90, look for 5.60 area
[10:22] {Threei}  aren't you glad we didn't believe in another break on PALM
[10:23] {dino} celg sm l .85
[10:23] {KSystems} palm stop?
[10:23] {dptl} in palm .00
[10:24] {Threei}  come on... :)
[10:24] {Threei}  under 5.90 of course
[10:24] {KSystems} would have said 80
[10:24] {KSystems} ok
[10:24] {Threei}  [10:21] {Threei} if holding above 5.90, then on re-crossing 6
[10:24] {Threei}  this is where it bounced from
[10:24] {Threei}  last support becomes stop level
[10:24] {KSystems} some idiot filled me at .10
[10:24] {Threei}  and it actually went to 1;1
[10:24] {KSystems} wow
[10:25] {_jamie} vad are you liking palm here or no?
[10:25] {Threei}  for scalp only jamie, but you are late
[10:25] {dptl} ahh didn't get it
[10:25] {Threei}  I described the p,lay above
[10:25] {Threei}  KS, that was rude... here is politically correct way to say it:
[10:26] {Threei}  thank you unknown buyer!
[10:26] {KSystems} jeez
[10:26] {Threei}  1:1 is upon us again
[10:26] {dptl} ok out .10 ty
[10:27] {Geo} man i bailed early again
[10:27] {wishbone} me too
[10:27] {tomg} ty vad out .17
[10:27] * Geo needs a chat with vad
[10:27] {dptl} i dont even care profit is profit
[10:28] {Geo} no i missed the first 1:1 so bailed at 5 cents :(
[10:28] {dptl} ohhh 
[10:29] {wishbone} geo..did the same thing
[10:29] {KSystems} PALM - out 1/2 .10 - out 1/4 .20 - out rest .13
[10:29] {Geo} was too focussed on keeping the drys and len money
[10:30] {wishbone} i chickened out at vads comment.....,but you are late!
[10:30] {tomg} great read on palm vad
[10:30] {tomg} and no, you can't go home :)
[10:30] {Threei}  ty tom
[10:31] {Threei}  wish... that was comment with meaning do not enter here
[10:31] {Geo} same here wishbone
[10:31] {wishbone} i realize that now:)
[10:31] {Threei}  doesn't necessary mean bail out here, as long as you are comfortable with risk
[10:31] {Threei}  what's with fearing 10 cents stops??? :)
[10:31] {Geo} youre right vad..... as always
[10:31] {wishbone} i don't know.......:(
[10:31] {Threei}  or you guys intend to learn to trade with no stops at all?
[10:32] {dino} afam sm l .60, risky
[10:32] {ese} dino...howd you do on AFAM?
[10:33] {Threei}  if anyone manages to do that, don't forget to teach me
[10:33] {Geo} sarcasm
[10:33] {dino} just bgt it
[10:33] {Onix} can't be done
[10:33] {dino} so far not good
[10:33] {Geo} hey buy and hold investors did it all 2008 :)
[10:33] {Threei}  although I'll submit, one who learns to trade with no stops can rightfuly claim title of god - only gods defy odds, right?
[10:34] {wishbone} lol geo
[10:34] {ese} thinking bounce?
[10:34] {dino} y
[10:34] {ese} been following it......want to go long sm...300 maybe
[10:34] {dino} -7 pts since 3:30 yesterday
[10:35] {ese} it's now hooked onto thQQQQ so if Q's bounce it might
[10:37] {dino} y
[10:37] {dino} patience; gg?
[10:38] {patience} got a downgrade today, i'll look at the chart
[10:38] {dino} gold turning up
[10:39] {tomg} palm ?
[10:39] {patience} 5 minute chart looks good for a bounce
[10:39] {Onix} you are ABSOLUTELY spot on about the no stops Vad
[10:40] {patience} i got burnt this morning on gold dino...stocks not behaving
[10:41] {dino} ok, thx
[10:41] {dino} thought it was just me missing something\
[10:42] {ese} limit .60 sm  gonna give it a try AFAM
[10:42] {dino} :)
[10:42] {ese} thats me sitin there at .60 for 300
[10:43] {Geo} on arca ese?
[10:43] {ese} y
[10:43] {Geo} for nasdaq stock?
[10:43] {ese} anybodys stock.....
[10:43] {Geo} ok
[10:43] {Geo} you on laser?
[10:44] {ese} cancelled it......
[10:44] {ese} was worth a shot
[10:44] {Geo} yup
[10:45] {ese} no....useless canadian company....Questrade
[10:45] {Geo} laser is the amazing
[10:46] {ese} y...am thinking about changing when things settle down
[10:46] {hawkfan4} it's great es, just started with it on monday and already loving it
[10:47] {Geo} i only know one more as fast... but it has glitches during fomc and needs retail margin... so i bailed out
[10:52] {ese} one of them day late dollar short type of days...missed palm,ocnf,hway, and afam......somebodys telling me something here
[10:52] {_jamie} Good call on Palm Vad
[10:52] {Threei}  :)
[10:52] {dino} my entries are way off es, tricky market
[10:53] {wishbone} aplm call?
[10:53] {wishbone} palm
[10:54] {ese} napalm.........
[10:54] {wishbone} lol
[10:57] {lisa_jay} .
[10:58] {Chaeron} Hi everyone
[10:58] {Geo} hiya chaeron
[10:58] {hawkfan4} hey Chaer
[10:58] {ese} CCCCCCHHHHH BABY!!!!!!!!!
[10:59] {Chaeron} heheh... hi ese, hawk, Geo... is Lisa connected or is she just littering?
[10:59] {dino} v sm wide deck .75 l
[10:59] {_jamie} Pleasure 
[10:59] {lisa_jay} :-)
[10:59] {Chaeron} nice to meet you too Jamie
[10:59] {_jamie} :)
[10:59] {wishbone} '
[10:59] {lisa_jay} Not sure Chaeron.
[11:00] {wishbone} did i get disconnected then reconnected
[11:00] {KSystems} yes wish
[11:00] {Chaeron} look ok from here lisa... you too wish
[11:00] {lisa_jay} Microwave was on earlier...so just checking to see if i am alive.
[11:00] {dino} lol
[11:00] {wishbone} anyone else?
[11:02] {Threei}  chaeron :)
[11:02] {Chaeron} hi Threei
[11:03] {ese} littering?????   ha ha ha ....haven't heard that line before...funny
[11:04] {Chaeron} you need to get out more ese...
[11:04] {Chaeron} pru
[11:20] {patience} nice bounce in goldf and slw
[11:20] {dino} yes, missed it wanted 26.40
[11:20] {wishbone} ya caught a bit of that on gg patience:)
[11:20] {patience} no wish, was getting ready to go out for a run
[11:21] {wishbone} sorry i caught a bit of it:)
[11:21] {dino} -4 lbs so far, need -20
[11:21] {Threei}  watch DRYS for pullback into .50 area
[11:21] {Threei}  possibly establishing scalpabkle range between .50 and .70
[11:25] {ese} ICLR...%$#@%$@.....can NOT!!! seem to deal with these spreads today
[11:27] {dino} size down
[11:27] {ese} hmmmmmmmm....why didn't i think of that....?
[11:29] {ese} seems dumb.....but i didn't ithink about it.....wrong mind set.....was looking full lot on most everything
[11:30] {dino} i and thought you were being sarcastic
[11:30] {ese} no weirdly enough........
[11:32] {ese} dino....yo da women!!!!  ahhhhhh man!!! 
[11:32] * dino slaps ese around a bit with a large trout
[11:32] {dino} sxci drop
[11:32] {tomg} still looking at drys for range scalp vad?
[11:32] {ese} I knew that was coming......i just knew
[11:33] {Threei}  yes tom
[11:33] {tomg} k
[11:33] {Threei}  not in a big hurry though
[11:33] {Threei}  things slowed down considerably
[11:34] {tomg} think i'll stop then, have a good weekend everyone
[11:34] {Threei}  good idea if you up nixcely
[11:34] {Threei}  have a great weekend
[11:34] {tomg} yes, best day this week, ty :)
[11:35] {Threei}  :)
[11:35] {dino} cya tom
[11:35] {dino} gj
[11:36] {hawkfan4} nice tom
[11:40] {Threei}  LEN
[11:40] {Threei}  EARING DEFENDED AT SOLEIL (TIMING UNCERTAIN)
[11:41] {Threei}  LENCFO: FRAUD INSITITUTE'S MINKOW IS AN 'ANGRY LITIGANT'; DOES NOT COMMENT ON OR DENY THE SPECIFIC ALLEGATIONS MADE BY MINKOW - CNBC
[11:45] {Threei}  watch DRYS and market
[11:45] {Threei}  market stabilizes and recovers, DRYS is a buy off support for a scalp
[11:47] {dptl} in .56
[11:48] {dptl} stop under .50
[11:55] {Threei}  don't oversit dp... just a scalp
[11:55] {Threei}  little lunch money
[11:57] {dptl} out +.10 ty
[11:57] {i2romantis} got out of palm too early, but +.20 is not bad
[11:57] {i2romantis} 1:2
[11:58] {i2romantis} out of drys at +.12 ty Vad
[11:58] {i2romantis} i had palm at 5.71 and didn't see it jumping so much back up
[11:59] {i2romantis} but i won't complain :)
[11:59] {dptl} grabed hway +.31
[11:59] {i2romantis} nice
[11:59] {Threei}  good job guys
[12:00] {dino} celg stop to .25
[12:00] {ese} outta here for the weekend all...see ya monday
[12:00] {Threei}  take care ese :)
[12:00] {dino} cya es
[12:01] {wishbone} drys +14 ty vad
[12:01] {Threei}  wish :)
[12:01] * Threei is soo ready to retire
[12:02] {i2romantis} must be nice :)
[12:02] {KSystems} no way 3i you still have to punch in loads of user accounts :P
[12:02] {Threei}  lol
[12:03] {dino} out celg .29, +.44
[12:04] {Threei}  you guys fgind your plays just fine... that's my door to retirement
[12:06] {dino} you retiring?
[12:06] {Larisa1} in his dreams :)
[12:06] {dino} ohhh
[12:08] {Larisa1} I know threei for many years and he was dreaming of retirement for all these years, just ignore :)
[12:09] {dptl} lol
[12:09] {Threei}  sure... go ahead and ignore me
12:09] {Threei}  everyone esle does...
[12:09] {Threei}  why not you
[12:09] {Geo} vad this IS retirement
[12:09] {Larisa1} lol
[12:09] {Threei}  in a way, yes, lol
[12:12] {wishbone} yousers DRYS
[12:13] {Geo} ended this week really well courtesy vad....... off to work... have an excellent weekend all
[12:13] {hawkfan4} u2 geo
[12:13] {Threei}  take care geo, have a good one
[12:14] {dino} cya geo
[12:14] {dino} rmbs
[12:15] {Larisa1} do not see news
[12:16] {wishbone} vad u catch that bounce in drys
[12:19] {dino} you find rmbs news?
[12:23] {dino} micron case, rmbscannot enforce
[12:23] {dino} from boards so careful
[12:28] {dino} v sm l rmbs .81
[12:28] {hawkfan4} 12:16   RMBS Rambus drops 1 pt amid surge in volume following Bloomberg headline indicating that Rambus has lost a chip patent case against Micron  (16.77 -1.71) 
[12:30] {dino} stopped
[12:31] {Larisa1} falling knife
[12:33] {magoo} VAD RMBS bounce?
[12:37] {Threei}  beyond risky for now
[12:39] {hawkfan4} wow
[12:39] {Threei}  uhhu
[12:41] {magoo} quite a percentage hit here
[12:54] {dptl} drys .80?
[12:57] {Threei}  ok... this time is safer if pulls back again
[12:57] {Threei}  .40 is likely to hold
[12:57] {dptl} rmbs?
[12:57] {Larisa1} bad thing it does not want to provide any bounces
[12:58] {dino} how much were they supposed to get/
[12:58] {hawkfan4} wants 50 day at 11.70, at least
[12:58] {Threei}  not holding again
[12:59] {Threei}  sheesh
[12:59] {Threei}  didn't eve pause around .40
[12:59] {i2romantis} yes, very nervous
[13:00] {dino} is mu the other company
[13:01] {dptl} drys?
[13:01] {Larisa1} missed HIG because of freaking RMBS, glued to it :)
[13:02] {dino} rmbs maybe 10 magnet
[13:12] {Threei}  hawk, dcc pls
[13:21] {Larisa1} signs of real panic
[13:21] {Threei}  yup
[13:22] {Threei}  pure joy to see
[13:22] {Threei}  traders have passion
[13:26] {dino}  rmbs 10s
[13:35] {Threei}  ok guys
[13:35] {Threei}  let's test new room connection
[13:35] {Threei}  so we have less confusion come Monday
[13:35] {Threei}  first, simplest method
[13:35] {Threei}  go to address I will post, enter your username and password
[13:35] {Threei}  http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1751cb31976f0adcb5507411d8ee92ac&server=irc.jastech.de&channel=%23floor%2C%23discussions&promptPass=true
[13:36] {dino} ncit sm l .15
[13:37] {Geo} cois this web based only?
[13:38] {Threei}  no
[13:38] {dptl} i've benn kiked out
[13:39] {Threei}  wrong password
[13:40] {wishbone} keeps scrolling up and can't read most recent text
[13:40] {dptl} in
[13:41] {dptl} is anybody there?
[13:42] {Threei}  I don't see you there dp
[13:43] {dptl} well it's says i am here...and alone lol
[13:44] {patience} i see you there dp
[13:44] {Threei}  there you go
[13:44] {dptl} there now i see 
[13:45] {Threei}  OK now
[13:45] {Threei}  if you want mirc
[13:46] {Threei}  you need to download new one from www.mirc.com or whereever they give away mircs these days
[13:46] {Threei}  connect to a server by /SERVER irc.jastech.de 6667
[13:46] {Geo} wow hosted in germany
[13:46] {Geo} fancy
[13:46] {KSystems} lol
[13:46] {Threei}  then login using /msg nickserv IDENTIFY {password}
[13:47] {Geo} too complex... anyway we can save all this info in irc in future?
[13:47] {Threei}  then joing channels by commands /join #discussions and /join #floor
[13:47] {Geo} like current
[13:47] {Threei}  not channel join commands
[13:50] {_jamie}  Vad is there something I need to be doing now to go to the new room, I had to step away?
[13:50] {Threei}  just go to http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1751cb31976f0adcb5507411d8ee92ac&server=irc.jastech.de&channel=%23floor%2C%23discussions&promptPass=true
[13:50] {Threei}  enter your nick and password
[13:52] {Geo} hey K
[13:52] {Geo} i closed my browser
[13:52] {Geo} and trying to connect with mirc
[13:52] {Geo} it says geo already in use
[13:52] {Geo} unable to join
[13:52] {Geo} address is banned
[13:53] {KSystems} geo
[13:53] {KSystems} you tried to login with the nick Geo1
[13:53] {KSystems} thats not registered
[13:53] {Geo} thats alternate
[13:53] {Geo} ok
[13:53] {KSystems} try again as Geo :)
[13:53] {Geo} ill remove
[13:54] {patience} hey dino, what are your thoughts on how we end the day? ty
[13:55] {Threei}  lol geo
[13:55] {Threei}  ks just doesn't like you
[13:55] {Geo} ah come on i am trying hard.... mirc newbie
[13:55] {lisa_jay} are you logged in GEo?
[13:56] {Geo} not in the new room
[13:56] {KSystems} geo dcc on new room plz
[13:59] {dino} patience, feels down
[13:59] {patience} yup
[14:09] {patience} back in silver wheaton (slw)
[14:14] {Threei}  so guys... since everything seems to be rolling smoothly, come Monday we are in the new room
[14:14] {Threei}  deal?
[14:14] {Onix} where?
[14:14] {Onix} patience
[14:15] {patience} ?
[14:16] {Onix} in SLW
[14:16] {patience} yup, just for something to do
[14:16] {KSystems} jmb dcc please, on new system
[14:16] {patience} 7.49 on cdn side
[14:16] {Onix} ty
06[14:21] * dptl slaps Geo around a bit with a large trout
[14:22] {dino} out ncit .97, +.82
[14:22] {patience} very nice dino
[14:23] {dino} ty
[14:26] {wishbone} has any figured out how to keep mibbitt on top of other applications?
[14:33] {brian3579} i missed it all again vad whats going on
[14:33] {Threei}  lol
[14:33] {Threei}  testing new room
[14:33] {magoo} vad, doesnew room habve icon on screen to log in like old one
[14:33] {Threei}  the easiest solution for now:
[14:34] {brian3579} do you need me to do anything
[14:34] {Threei}  [13:50] {Threei} just go to http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1751cb31976f0adcb5507411d8ee92ac&server=irc.jastech.de&channel=%23floor%2C%23discussions&promptPass=true
[14:34] {Threei}  [13:50] {Threei} enter your nick and password
[14:34] {Threei}  just use this link magoo
[14:34] {Geo} could we keep both on for a while?
[14:34] {Threei}  not really
[14:35] {Geo} sigh
[14:35] {Threei}  I can't type in both, and it's highly confusing
[14:35] {Geo} let me copy all the instructions from this room then
[14:35] {KSystems} you could vad, just shutdown laser
[14:35] {Geo} lol
[14:35] {Threei}  lol
[14:35] {dptl} roflol
[14:35] {KSystems} instead of entering order, you do second chat
[14:35] {Geo} we could open a social networking site
[14:37] {Geo} vad one concern....
[14:37] {Geo} i am not endorcing hydra
[14:37] {Geo} as i hav only "heard" its good
[14:37] {Geo} which one do you want documented
[14:38] {dino} out wynn .35, +.40 all day
[14:38] {Threei}  President Ford: I wish everyone in my surroundings had just one hand
[14:38] {brian3579} go to this new room on monday?
[14:39] {Threei}  yes brian
[14:39] {Threei}  old one is holding by fingertips
[14:39] {brian3579} lol
[14:39] {Threei}  can crash any day
[14:39] {KSystems} even did, few days ago
[14:39] {KSystems} remember?
[14:39] {Threei}  and problems causing it are pratcically unfixable
[14:39] {Geo} i am documenting mirc
[14:39] {Geo} not sure about hydra right now
[14:39] {Geo} can add later
[14:40] {Geo} it has most userbase
[14:40] {Threei}  I am looking at reviews geo
[14:40] {Geo} YOU tell me boss
[14:42] {wishbone} geo DCC pleas
[14:43] {Threei}  geo
[14:43] {Geo} y
[14:44] {Threei}  reviews are good, it all comes to how convinient it is and whether there are some configuration quirks that are important for our particular case
[14:44] {Geo} we also have to be mindfull if your old scripts port vad
[14:44] {Geo} mirc is easier but they want money
[14:44] {Threei}  what do you say if you try it for a day or two to make sure it can do everything we need
[14:44] {Geo} only you or K can try out your call scripts etc
[14:45] {Geo} i can try as normal user
[14:45] {Threei}  yes, but no one else needs scripts
[14:45] {Geo} yes
[14:45] {Threei}  so let's testg it for the room members,
[14:45] {Geo} hydra?
[14:45] {Geo} ok
[14:45] {Threei}  and we will check into script side
[14:45] {Geo} works for me
[14:45] {Geo} ill get on it
[14:45] {Threei}  worst case scneario, you'll use hydra and I'll remain on mirc
[14:45] {Geo} ill crawl back then
[14:45] {Geo} lol
[14:45] {Threei}  and automate it as you did
[14:46] {Geo} cool
[14:46] {Geo} makes sense
[14:46] {Geo} ok boss
[14:46] {Threei}  ty
[14:46] {KSystems} currently, hydra has no scripting capabilities
[14:46] {KSystems} according to its wiki
[14:46] {Geo} crap
[14:46] {Geo} you could move to the paid mirc
[14:46] {Geo} something like 40 yr
[14:46] {wishbone} are MIRC and Hydra just different chat softwares.....VAD?
[14:46] {Geo} we all be freebies on hydara?
[14:47] {Geo} you keep scripts
[14:47] {Threei}  yes wish
[14:47] {Geo} bet of bot worlds
[14:47] {Threei}  I guess that's the way to go if you test hydra OK
[14:47] {Geo} i am downloading 
[15:03] {patience} god willing no one else bought slw...watching moss grow is faster
[15:11] {Onix} i did but took a tight stop ty
[15:23] {Geo} vad dcc pls
[15:24] {patience} out slw -.10
[15:24] {Onix} aah
[15:27] {Onix} i thought there would be quite a bit of short-covering by this time
[15:28] {patience} i think there are private wealth funds dumping this week onix
[15:28] {Onix} oh thats whats happe'ning
[15:28] {Onix} ty
[15:28] {patience} just guessing, i'm not one of their clients   :)
[15:29] {Onix} lol
[15:29] {Threei}  *CITIGROUP AND MORGAN STANELY IN TALKS TO MERGER BROKERAGE UNITS - CNBC
[15:29] {Threei}  {MS}
[15:30] {dino} wynn sm l .51
[15:31] {Threei}  DRYS
[15:31] {Threei}  if not losing .40, long on .50 break
[15:31] {dino} markets whipping around
[15:31] {Threei}  let's do half lot, why risk spoiling perfect day
[15:32] {Threei}  invalidated anyway
[15:42] {hawkfan4} gotta run, have a great weekend all
[15:42] {wishbone} take care hawk
[15:43] {Threei}  take care hawk
[15:43] {dino} cya hawk
[15:53] {Threei}  Ok guys... no more trades as you probably gathered
[15:53] {Threei}  excellent start of the new year
[15:54] {lisa_jay} Thanks Vad.
[15:54] {Threei}  6 trading days, 6 wins
[15:54] {Threei}  let's have a great relaxing weekend,
[15:54] {Threei}  start new week in new room
[15:54] {dptl} have a good weekend all
[15:54] {Threei}  I'll see you all on Monday
[15:54] {lisa_jay} Bye everyone.
[15:54] {Larisa1} see you
[15:55] {dino} out wynn -.35