Apr 30 2009

Mostly scalping day but profits are profits - big gap days are often like this. One of interesting plays was on unlikely stock: URRE. Usual suspects become boring over time, so it was nice to play in a new sandbox.

Session Time: Thu Apr 30 00:00:00 2009

[08:04] {magoo} morning

[08:05] {Threei}  Good morning

[08:05] {Threei}  SQNM

[08:05] {Threei}  holy smokes

[08:06] {magoo} WOW

[08:06] {Threei}  04/29/09 04:40pm

[08:06] {Threei}  [SQNM] Sequenom, Inc Reports Q1 -$0.29 v -$0.23e, R $8.7M v $11.1Me

[08:06] {Threei}  - Guides FY09 Rev $32M-$35M v $55Me

[08:06] {Threei}  and of course bunch of downgrades

[08:07] {magoo} bouncer somewhere vad

[08:07] {magoo} maybe at zero

[08:09] {Threei}  what a punishment

[08:09] {magoo} vad..fslr reported last nite..u have it?

[08:09] {Threei}  04/29/09 04:38pm

[08:09] {Threei}  [FSLR] First Solar Inc. Reiterates prior FY09 guidance - conf call slides

[08:09] {Threei}  - Reiterates FY09 sales guidance $1.9B-$2.0B v $1.87Be, and margins of 31%-33%

[08:09] {Threei}  - Follow up 16:49pmET: CEO reaffirms 10%-15% of planned 2009 shipments at risk of default - conf call

[08:10] {magoo} jesus though..a 15 dollar stock to 2??

[08:10] {Threei}  try 3 brwak with stop under 2.90

[08:11] {nemo} fslr cleaned up

[08:12] {Threei}  MGM nice gap

[08:12] {Threei}  LVS is trying to catch up

[08:13] {magoo} news AMZN?

[08:14] {Threei}  no

[08:14] {Threei}  wow... SQNM didn't even try to bounce

[08:16] {cosmo} 2.50 looks solid?    hehe

[08:16] {Threei}  sure.. unless it breaks

[08:16] {nemo} it all works until it doesn't

[08:17] {magoo} and its all fun and games until someone loses an eye :)

[08:17] {Threei}  or breaks an ankle

[08:17] {magoo} ROFLOL

[08:17] {nemo} nephew has a great shirt:  "It's all fun and games until the flying monkeys attack"

[08:18] {Threei}  lol

[08:18] {nemo} "wanna' play ball scarecrow!"

[08:18] {nemo} ohoh

[08:19] {cosmo} poppies will make them sleep

[08:20] {nemo} ohoh

[08:20] {Threei}  number of downgrades on SQNM becomes ridiculous

[08:20] {Threei}  every second headline

[08:20] {nemo} rats from a sinking ship

[08:20] {magoo} really at 3 bux should be strong buy

[08:21] {magoo} ate huge offer 06

[08:22] {Threei}  there are more where that came from

[08:23] {magoo} big at 3

[08:27] {nemo} who's playing sqnm?

[08:29] {magoo} i have a lil at 2.95

[08:29] {nemo} Where's ese?  He'd have 20000 of the little buggers

[08:30] {Threei}  INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 631K V 640KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 6.271M V 6.200ME

[08:30] {Threei}  - Prior jobless claims revised from 640K to 645K

[08:30] {Threei}  - Prior Continuing Claims revised from 6.137M to 6.138M

[08:30] {Threei}  MAR PERSONAL INCOME: -0.3% V -0.2%E; PERSONAL SPENDING: -0.2% V -0.1%E

[08:30] {Threei}  - Prior Personal Spending revised from 0.2% to 0.4%

[08:31] {Threei}  Q1 EMPLOYMENT COST INDEX: 0.3% V 0.5%E

[08:31] {Threei}  MAR PCE CORE M/M: 0.2% V 0.1%E; PCE CORE Y/Y: 1.8% V 1.8%E; PCE DEFLATOR Y/Y: 0.7% V 0.7%E

[08:32] {jfjf64} mornin

[08:33] {Threei}  jf :)

[08:37] {Threei}  WHITE HOUSE: CHRYSLER WILL PROCEED WITH CHAPTER 11 FILING

[08:40] {magoo} shoot..missed LVS

[08:40] {Threei}  me too

[08:40] {magoo} u take vads?

[08:41] {Threei}  waited for pullback that never came

[08:43] {Threei}  SQNM honestly trying

[08:45] {Threei}  F over 5.50 resistance

[08:46] {dptl} good morning all

[08:46] {Threei}  dp :)

[08:49] {Threei}  taking any off the table magoo?

[08:50] {magoo} soon

[08:50] {magoo} wont lose on it

[08:50] {magoo} but maybe its a pointer

[08:50] {magoo} LVS pullbk enough vad

[08:51] {Threei}  a bit more would make me happier

[08:53] {ese} good morning

[08:53] {Threei}  ese :)

[08:53] {magoo} ese:)

[08:53] {vinod} good morning

[08:53] {nemo} dude :)

[08:53] {Threei}  vinod :)

[08:54] {nemo} vinod :)

[08:54] {vinod} first time i am watching you guys on pre marke

[08:54] {nemo} sqnm still running

[08:54] {Threei}  mags... take half off

[08:54] {Threei}  don't be a pig

[08:54] {ese} rally continues ehh

[08:54] {nemo} oink oink

[08:54] {Threei}  they get flu

[08:54] {vinod} got sgnm at 2.95

[08:54] {nemo} good one

[08:55] {Threei}  half out vinod, at least

[08:55] {vinod} 0ut 3.40 ony 500

[08:55] {Threei}  good job

[08:56] {vinod} i learn something new today

[08:56] {Threei}  LVS

[08:56] {Threei}  just a tad more please

[08:57] {nemo} nice call on sqnm vad

[08:58] {dptl} where are you thinking lvs?

[08:59] {Threei}  maybe under 9 if we get lucky

[08:59] {Threei}  8.80 if we get very lucky

[08:59] {dptl} i see

[09:00] {Threei}  (RU) RUSSIAN NATO ENVOY: RESPONSE TO EXPULSION OF DIPLOMATS WILL BE HARSH AND DECISIVE

[09:00] {Threei}  what did I miss?

[09:01] {fernp} Hello everybody

[09:01] {Threei}  fern :)

[09:01] {Threei}  who expelled whose dimplomats?

[09:02] {Threei}  keep an eye opn ABAT guys

[09:02] {Threei}  this one may bet some traction

[09:02] {ese} fern

06[09:04] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large bootle of AntiGreedin

[09:06] {wulff} LVS

[09:06] {Threei}  took half at 9

[09:06] {Threei}  with idea to add another half if drops more

[09:12] {pita} ola everyone

[09:12] {nemo} que tal?

[09:13] {wulff} took .05

[09:13] {Threei}  pita :)

[09:14] {pita} bien?

[09:14] {fernp} ola = sea wave and hola = hello :)

[09:15] {pita} hola, gracias

[09:15] {fernp} de nada

[09:16] {dptl} where is your stop Vad lvs?

[09:16] {Threei}  [09:06] {Threei} took half at 9

[09:16] {Threei}  [09:06] {Threei} with idea to add another half if drops more

[09:16] {Threei}  I am looking for entry point for another half, not stop

[09:16] {pita} trading in the pre mkt?

[09:17] {Threei}  SQNM and LVS, pita

[09:18] {pita} wrong day to sleep in...

[09:18] {wulff} never touched .80

[09:18] {dino} gm all

[09:18] {Threei}  dino :)

[09:19] {Threei}  SQNM retreat

[09:20] {ese} wow just looked at that.......-11.75.....thats a hair cut

[09:21] {nemo} haircut...I think they started at the throat...

[09:21] {ese} what do they do?

[09:22] {ese} sqnm that is

[09:22] {Threei}  they drop

[09:22] {ese} ha ha .....ha ha

[09:23] {Threei}  genetic analysis products that translate genomic science into superior solutions for biomedical research, agricultural applications, molecular medicine and non-invasive prenatal diagnostics research, and potentially, clinical utility.

[09:24] {Threei}  (US) WHITE HOUSE AIDE: CHRYSLER BANKRUPTCY TO LAST "ONE OR TWO MONTHS"

[09:26] {ese} tks vad.........ever thought about a comedy act?

[09:27] {Threei}  yeah

[09:27] {ese} i'll be the straight guy..........you the one liners.......we could be big

[09:27] {Threei}  seinfield wasn't scared

[09:27] {ese} hmmmmmm

[09:29] {dino} downs' syndrum test claimed near 100% accuracy, now saying deata not reliable

[09:30] {dino} spelling errors

[09:30] {nemo} lab workers were stoned

[09:33] {Threei} Long Setup:  URRE  .45 break if stays above .35

[09:33] {dino} gmcr

[09:34] {jfjf64} stop

[09:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .40 break

[09:37] {Threei}  under .30, invalidated

[09:37] {nemo} bummer

[09:37] {fernp} too fast

[09:37] {Threei}  too fast anyway

[09:37] {nemo} and invalidated

[09:39] {dptl} in urre

[09:39] {nemo} in urre

[09:39] {nemo} partial

[09:40] {dino} hmmm cyber no gmcr

[09:41] {dptl} half out ty

[09:41] {Threei}  half out URRE

[09:41] {magoo} out .84 TY vad

[09:42] {nemo} out urre ty

[09:42] {dptl} more out .65

[09:43] {ese} nice one boys

[09:45] {magoo} u still in LVS vad?

[09:45] {Threei}  no

[09:45] {magoo} me out too

[09:47] {nemo} you're outed mags?

[09:47] {nemo} whoa

06[09:47] * magoo slaps nemo around a bit with a large trout

[09:47] {nemo} hehehehehe

[09:48] {magoo} no laughing, cant focus:)

[09:48] {nemo} I'm sick, can't focus anyway

[09:50] {magoo} GMCR nuts

[09:53] {Threei}  DNDN bottomless

[09:53] {nemo} was just looking at that

[09:53] {dino} mgln

[09:56] {dino} not participating, t, vz, wmt, schw,gld

[09:58] {Threei} Long Setup:  EBAY  .95 if stays above .80

[09:59] {nemo} in

[09:59] {dptl} in

[10:00] {magoo} in

[10:00] {fernp} in

[10:00] {pita} finally caught one - EBAY

[10:01] {Threei}  (US) WHITE HOUSE ECON ADV ROMER: EXPECTS US ECONOMY TO PICK UP IN H2

[10:01] {ese} H2 ?

[10:01] {ese} or Q2?

[10:02] {_ryanagler} new here -- can you explain the ".95 if stays above .80".  when that was posted, ebay was at 16.95.  Does that mean buy at 16.95 and set your stop at 16.80?

[10:03] {nemo} I always wondered what vad meant???

[10:03] {Threei}  yes, but it was .93 wheh it was posted

[10:03] {dino} mant

[10:03] {Threei}  it also means that if it loses .80 before triggering, play is invalidated

[10:06] {Threei}  US GOVT TO REPORTEDLY ASK CHRYSLER CEO NARDELLI TO REMAIN WITH COMAPNY DURING THE TRANSITION

[10:08] {_ryanagler} thanks.  when i looked at the quote it must have just moved to .95.  so, in that setup, if it had remained at .93 for awhile longer, you are recommending to wait for .95 or to get in anywhere between .80 and .95?

[10:08] {Threei}  that depends on your level of aggressiveness

[10:09] {Threei}  look up blog article titled

[10:09] {fernp} stop below .90 for ebay?

[10:09] {Threei}  How agressive are you

[10:09] {Threei}  yeah, makes sense fern

[10:10] {Threei}  http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2007/07/how-aggressive-are-you.html

[10:11] {Threei}  let's take half off here EBAY

[10:12] {Threei}  stop for second half URRE to under .60

[10:12] {Threei}  .50, sorry

[10:12] {pita} what did you see to sell half at this level?  Declining volume?

[10:13] {Threei}  NASDAQ stalles at resistance and is likely to pull back

[10:13] {Threei}  I don't want to run into situation where EBAY overreacts

[10:13] {Threei}  and shakes us out

[10:14] {Threei}  which is exatly what it does as we speak

[10:14] {pita} ah ty - looks like that is happening

[10:14] {nemo} out ebay

[10:14] {Threei}  out breakeven second half

[10:14] {Threei}  a bit disappointing

[10:14] {nemo} no lost

[10:14] {Threei}  such break on daily deserved more attention

[10:15] {pita} me too

[10:15] {pita} reenter if holds .80?

[10:15] {dino} ]psys, mant, mgln, isys, aiz

[10:15] {dptl} out too....ebay

[10:16] {Threei}  I won't pita

[10:16] {pita} k ty

[10:18] {dptl} whats with cat?

[10:18] {nemo} announced rebounding business yesterday

[10:19] {pita} cat = china growth

[10:19] {dptl} ok ty

[10:19] {dino} sm l mgln .60

[10:26] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  69 break

[10:26] {Threei}  stop under .85

[10:26] {nemo} amn

[10:26] {nemo} damn

[10:26] {Threei}  let it pull back

[10:27] {Threei}  wait for resumed strength now

[10:27] {nemo} oops in

[10:29] {nemo} got out

[10:29] {Threei}  hmm?

[10:29] {Threei}  that's one weird trading :)

[10:30] {nemo} well, sounds like I jumped the gun, so bad entry 

[10:30] {nemo} therefore, being able to get out whole I consider luck

[10:30] {dptl} in 69

[10:31] {nemo} stop on RIMM?

[10:32] {Threei}  stop to under .90

[10:32] {dino} double bottom mant?, sm l mant .30 risky

[10:32] {Threei}  URRE stop to under .55

[10:34] {dptl} stopped rimm -.14

[10:34] {dino} stopped mant -.32

[10:34] {dino} f'ing rinse

[10:36] {magoo} l aapl off .50

[10:36] {magoo} stop .19 hl

[10:36] {dptl} ah rimm shakeout

[10:36] {magoo} .90 area looking for

[10:36] {jfjf64} yup

[10:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  FAS  .85 break if stays above .80

[10:37] {Threei} Long Setup:  WFC  .40 break

[10:40] {nemo} wfc invalidated?

[10:41] {Threei}  yeah

[10:41] {Threei}  turns into bounce candidate

[10:41] {Threei}  from under .20 most likely

[10:42] {_ryanagler} long might be tough into 888 s&p resistance

[10:43] {dino} mant sm l .35, last try

[10:46] {magoo} aapl stiopped

[10:48] {dino} psys s .01

[10:49] {chinggis} BAC?

[10:50] {Threei} Short Setup: DNDN  .85 half lot

[10:50] {Threei}  if stays below 21

[10:50] {magoo} OY

[10:50] {nemo} good for you guys, I magoo it and you make a call.

[10:50] {Threei}  see that big UBSS bid at .85?

[10:51] {Threei}  that's youer indication

[10:51] {dptl} in

[10:51] {nemo} too fast

[10:51] {magoo} missed dammit

[10:52] {jfjf64} cant  short    schwab   crazy

[10:52] {Threei}  I don't see any play on BAC chinggis

[10:52] {magoo} call chuck

[10:52] {nemo} hehehehe

[10:52] {jfjf64} lol

[10:52] {nemo} chuck you farley

[10:52] {Threei}  (US) WHITE HOUSE ADVISOR ROMER: REITERATES THAT UNEMPLOYMENT IS SEEN RISING OVER THE COMING MONTHS -CONG TESTIMONY

[10:52] {chinggis} ok ty

[10:54] {jfjf64} fas??

[10:54] {dptl} out urre

[10:55] {dino} pnra wants gap filled, imo

[10:55] {magoo} i like AAPl as clkose to .50 u can get long

[10:55] {magoo} 127 in the cards if IF mkt resiumes

[10:56] {magoo} i am in

[10:56] {dino} mgln stop to .91

[10:57] {dino} to .05

[10:58] {dino} out mgln .05, +.45

[10:59] {dino} psys bstop is .12 fwiw

[10:59] {nemo} what you short it at?

[10:59] {nemo} Dino

[11:01] {dino} .01

[11:01] {dptl} covered some .70 dndn

[11:01] {Threei}  covering half DNDN .60

06[11:01] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[11:02] {magoo} supplement in there "large roll of cash" lol

[11:02] {Threei}  just no shaking out now DNDN, okay?

[11:03] {Threei}  break .50 and give us a buck

[11:03] {dptl} same stop?

[11:03] {Threei}  matter of taste really

[11:03] {Threei}  can move to above .90 if that matters

[11:04] {dptl} ok ty

[11:05] {dino} psys stopped -.11

[11:05] {dino} pnra hmmm, perhaps the gap waitsa

[11:06] {magoo} out aapl

[11:06] {nemo} "waitsa"?

[11:06] {nemo} solid NAS volume today...anybody know why?

[11:07] {dino} typo

[11:08] {nemo} dino, reenter psys if it breaks 19?

[11:10] {Threei}  die already DNDN

[11:10] {magoo} funny how such a wild animal one day

[11:10] {magoo} next pussycat

[11:11] {dino} should work, but its a toughie. maybe better short towards hod

[11:13] {Threei}  RIMM, that was rude

[11:13] {dino} cymi

[11:14] {jfjf64} y

[11:14] {Threei}  hate these big gap - slow climb days

[11:14] {dino} me too

[11:15] {Threei}  first you can't tell continuation from reversal, so you wait for pullback

[11:15] {nemo} yeah might as well go fishing...reminds me

[11:15] {Threei}  pullback never comes

06[11:15] * nemo slaps Alert around a bit with a large trout

06[11:15] * nemo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[11:15] {nemo} better

[11:15] {Threei}  then you run into long stall

[11:15] {nemo} oh and magoo...

[11:15] {Threei}  where longs don't work,

[11:15] {Threei}  neither do shorts

06[11:15] * nemo slaps magoo around a bit with a large venison back straps

[11:16] {jfjf64} that cd be prob

[11:21] {dptl} out dndn

[11:21] {Threei}  yeah

[11:22] {pita} LVS filled gap -  now what?

[11:24] {Threei}  it didn't

[11:25] {Threei}  7.70 is yest close

[11:25] {pita} from yest high

[11:26] {Threei}  hihg 7.99

[11:27] {pita} my 5 day says 8.20?

[11:27] {dino} bare

[11:27] {pita} oh that's after mkt

[11:33] {dino} cymi s sm .53

[11:35] {Threei}  (US) WHITE HOUSE ADVISOR ROMER:

[11:35] {Threei}  - "Incredible uncertainty' surround the cost of fixing the financial system

[11:35] {Threei}  - States that IMF is unlikely to have accurate estimates on true costs for the 'clean up' of the US financial system

[11:35] {Threei}  - Reminder: On 4/29 -White House's Romer: Believes Q1 GDP may have a "silver lining" in higher consumer spending and lower inventories - TV interview

[11:35] {Threei}  - Reiterates that it is expected for economy to bottom out in Q2 of 2009 with recovery possible in H2

[11:35] {Threei}  - Reiterates that there are limited signs that financial markets are loosening up somewhat.

[11:36] {Threei}  STATEMENT FROM NON-TARP LENDERS TO CHRYSLER; SAYS OFFERS TO CO. HAVE BEEN REJECTED OR IGNORED

[11:36] {Threei}  - Lending group comments that it is continuing talks with US Treasury

[11:36] {Threei}  - Offered to take 40% haircut

[11:39] {dino} dealing w/govt=dealing w/devil it seems

[11:40] {Threei}  heh

[11:40] {Threei}  white house statement says lenders failed to act in their own interests and in national interests

[11:40] {Threei}  how about that?

[11:41] {magoo} national interests

[11:41] {magoo} nazi germany

[11:41] {Threei}  wagging finger

[11:41] {magoo} huh?

[11:46] {Threei}  don't you find it incredibly patronizing to tell them what their best interests are?

[11:46] {nemo} I liked that one best

[11:46] {Threei}  IMF: IMPACT ON CERTAIN COUNTRIES FROM THE SWINE FLU OUTBREAK MAY BE QUITE 'DRAMATIC'

[11:48] {Threei}  CDC official on CNN... "we are twitting... I've never twitted before"

[11:49] {Threei}  I am getting old...

[11:49] {Threei}  it irritates me to no end, lol

[11:49] {Threei}  ity's acting CDC director

[11:50] {Threei}  apparently can't wait to finish press-conference and go twit

[11:50] {cosmo} twit?

[11:50] {Threei}  you are old too cosmo

[11:51] {Threei}  you don't twit

[11:51] {cosmo} very

[11:51] {cosmo} oh

[11:51] {vinod} outbreak of swine flu panic

[11:51] {nemo} sqnm vad

[11:51] {dptl} short wfc agresive .23 stop above .30

[11:52] {Threei}  lol vinod

[11:53] {Raven} chirp

[11:53] {nemo} ravens chirp?

[11:53] {Threei}  wow... CDC: Mexico lab is able to make diagnosis now

[11:53] {Raven} today they do

[11:53] {Threei}  nemo... one thing is for sure

[11:53] {Threei}  Ravens do NOT twit

[11:53] {Raven} I hate twits

[11:53] {vinod} good excuse to stay home

[11:54] {vinod} i should tell my bos i am feeling swan

[11:54] {Threei}  ahha

[11:54] {Threei}  CNN corrected him

[11:54] {cosmo} is it dangerous while driving?

[11:54] {Threei}  it's not twitted, it's tweeted

[11:54] {cosmo} ...twitting?

[11:55] {Threei}  now I know too, along with acting director of CDC

[11:55] {Raven} how absurd

[11:55] {dino} wow, the tangents you guys take lately, lol

[11:56] {Raven} cosines?

[11:56] {Threei}  I am telling you... 5 years more, I won't understand half of what they say

[11:56] {Threei}  (of course I don't understand about 47% as of now)

[11:56] {dino} mgln approaches lod, life, psys towards hod

[11:56] {fernp} How many days without smoking, Vad?

[11:56] {nemo} wait til we go to derivatives Dino

[11:57] {nemo} without smoking what?

[11:57] {fernp} lol

[11:57] {Threei}  6 weeks, fern

[11:57] {fernp} WTG

[11:57] {Threei}  ty

[11:57] {Threei}  no craving either

[11:58] {Threei}  clean break

[11:58] {Threei}  after 30 years of smoking

[11:58] {dptl} sigh...stopped wfc

[11:58] {dptl} -.07

[11:58] {dino} congrats vad

[11:58] {Threei}  ty

[11:58] {Raven} after 30 years you're doomed anyway

[11:58] {fernp} yes, congrats

[11:58] {Threei}  of course I am... smoking or no smoking

[11:59] {Raven} just trying to be the optimist

[11:59] {Threei}  but for different reasons

[11:59] {nemo} only sure thing in life

[11:59] {vinod} congrat for giving up smoking

[11:59] {Threei}  maybe .80 break on SQNM worth a short

[12:00] {Threei}  ty vinod

[12:00] {vinod} 20 year ago my wife was going to leave unless i quite

[12:00] {Threei}  you are single since then right?

[12:01] {vinod} no i quite in hurry

[12:01] {Threei}  wow

[12:01] {nemo} stuff croaked my mother...rotten painful way to go

[12:01] {Threei}  I'd leave her just because I wouldn't accept ultimatum :)

[12:02] {vinod} accept all when you are in love

[12:02] {dptl} in sqnm

[12:02] {Threei}  REPORTEDLY US OFFICIALS ARE LEANING TO DISCLOSING INDIVIDUAL BANK STRESS TEST RESULTS NEXT WEEK

[12:03] {Threei}  PRESIDENT OBAMA: CHRYSLER TO FILE FOR BANKRUPTCY IN NEW YORK, FIAT TO TAKE 20% STAKE IN REORGANIZED COMPANY

[12:03] {Threei}  - GMAC to be financing arm for new Chrysler cars

[12:03] {Threei}  - US Treasury to have 8% equity stake in new Chrysler; Govt of Canada and Ontario to have 2% stake

[12:03] {Threei}  - White House confirms sees a 'surgical' bankruptcy to last approx 30-60 days

[12:03] {Threei}  - Chrysler network of US dealers are part of bankruptcy{GM F F.IT USD/CAD EWC}

[12:04] {dptl} stop .94

[12:04] {dptl} ?

[12:04] {Threei}  I prefer .91

[12:04] {dptl} ok ty

[12:06] {nemo} what quoth the Raven today?

[12:07] {Raven} Neverenough ?

[12:07] {dino} cymi bstop to .23

[12:08] {Threei}  Prez on TV

[12:09] {Threei}  PRESIDENT OBAMA: REORGANIZATION WILL GIVE CHRYSLER A "NEW LEASE ON LIFE"

[12:11] {dino} life s sm .86, stop hod

[12:11] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  36 breakdown

[12:12] {magoo} independent of mkt?

[12:12] {dino} mant waking up

[12:13] {Threei}  why independent?

[12:13] {Threei}  mostly moves in unison

[12:14] {magoo} i mean mkts upticking

[12:14] {nemo} PSYS DINO

[12:14] {Threei}  which means CAQT is not likely to trigger

[12:14] {magoo} dont like to short in uptrend

[12:14] {magoo} unlessstox independent

[12:14] {magoo} hey, theres that word again

[12:14] {Threei}  if stays close enough to thwe trigger level, should trigger when market reverses

[12:14] {dino} schw big gap around 17.60 from tues.

[12:15] {dino} cymi to .13

[12:15] {dino} cov +.40

[12:15] {Threei}  - Believes the arrangement with Fiat will save 30K jobs.

[12:15] {Threei}  - Deal involves transfer of Fiat's 'cutting edge' technology to Chrysler.

[12:16] {Threei}  - bankruptsy is not a sign of the weakness

[12:16] {Threei}  hmmm

[12:16] {Threei}  this one is my favorite I think

[12:17] {Threei}  - small group of speculators endangers Chrysler future by refusing to make sacrifice like everyone else

[12:17] {Threei}  no... this one is better

[12:18] {dino} no mention of union concessions

[12:18] {vinod} Creditors have decided that cash is more important than the future of the American car industry

[12:18] {nemo} what future?

[12:18] {Threei}  UAW had 55% stake under the proposed deal

[12:18] {Threei}  creditors said no way

[12:19] {Threei}  also, all projections show that Chrysler if survives can count on 5% market share

[12:19] {Threei}  that's less that Kia ot Hundai

[12:19] {Threei}  creditors are quite right to walk away

[12:20] {Threei}  CAT invalidated

[12:20] {Threei}  - Notes disappointment with hedgefund bondholders, who were holding out for a better deal.

[12:20] {Threei}  - says Chrysler Finance would have needed an unacceptable amount of govt support, thus new Chrysler financing will be provided by GMAC

[12:21] {patience} why does it think i'm away vad

[12:22] {Threei}  what does?

[12:22] {patience} the little line that says patience is away

[12:22] {Threei}  you must have set it somewhere

[12:22] {patience} ty

[12:22] {Threei}  in mirc, go to:

[12:23] {cosmo} Solution for auto companies:  They are 'shovel ready' to make rail cars, rails, and MagLev systems.... they had to make tanks during the war...remember?

[12:23] {Threei}  Commands - Set Away

[12:23] {Threei}  make sure it's on Off

[12:23] {Threei}  I don't remember cosmo... you take my 'I am old" too literally {G}

[12:24] {chinggis} cat

[12:24] {chinggis} sorry mistake

[12:24] {cosmo} oh ... not the more recent wars, of course

[12:28] {dino} how do they figure gmac has funds, gm is broke too

[12:31] {wulff} CAT breaks

[12:33] {cosmo} CAT next big U.S. auto maker maybe?

[12:34] {Raven} those are gonne be pretty heavy cosmo ...

[12:34] {dino} mant to .60

[12:34] {Raven} gonna

[12:35] {Raven} will chew up the roads mabye

[12:35] {Raven} maybe ...

[12:35] {Threei}  that will create more jobs Raven

[12:35] {Raven} that'll be swell

[12:35] {cosmo} they are very stable in high winds

[12:35] {dino} cool name

[12:35] {Raven} lol ... very true

[12:36] {cosmo} i love the treads too

[12:36] {Raven} I like tanks a lot

[12:36] {dino} your welcome

[12:36] {Raven} always wanted one

[12:36] {cosmo} hmmm

06[12:36] * Raven slaps dino around a bit with a large trout

[12:37] {dino} to .72 mant

[12:37] {dino} ouch

[12:37] {dino} to .80

[12:38] {dptl} out sqnm ty

[12:38] {dino} out +.45

[12:38] {Threei}  can't believe it took this long to work, dp

[12:38] {jfjf64} im i on line  lost  connection

[12:38] {Threei}  but whatever

[12:38] {dino} too tight

[12:39] {dino} itri blood

[12:39] {jfjf64} any body copy   yes  no   

[12:39] {Threei}  no

[12:39] {fernp} yes, you are in jf

[12:39] {cosmo} Infrastructure Conglomerate   ... the next industrial sector...

[12:39] {Threei}  fern... you are wayyy too polite

[12:40] {jfjf64} ty    are ya in anything

[12:40] {Threei}  just covered SQNM, jf

[12:40] {jfjf64} ty

[12:42] {pita} adios

[12:43] {fernp} adios pita, nos vemos maana

[12:43] {dino} itri hmmmm

[12:43] {dino} mgln lod

[12:45] {Threei}  awww

[12:45] {Threei}  too soon on SQNM

[12:45] {Threei}  but jeez, it took so long

[12:45] {Threei}  I was just glad to stop staring at it

[12:45] {jfjf64} lol

[12:45] {nemo} look at cat

[12:46] {dino} nemoooooooooo, we missed psys short

[12:46] {Threei}  CAT was kind of discretionary

[12:47] {nemo} I pointed it out to you, and didn't hear back

[12:47] {Threei}  it did reestablish short setup but somewhat lukewarmly

[12:47] {dino} said around hod, see way above

[12:47] {cosmo} 35.50 is pivotal imho

[12:47] {nemo} [12:14] {nemo} PSYS DINO

[12:47] {ese} am back......whats with the dive of the market since i',ve been gone

[12:48] {Threei}  just pulling back off resistance, ese

[12:48] {nemo} So, it's my fault?

[12:48] {ese} for the market pulling back nemo

[12:48] {dino} indeed, lol

[12:48] {nemo} interloper...no the psys short

[12:49] {dino} now, i know this is a contradiction, but; dieeeeeee life

06[12:49] * nemo slaps dino around a bit with a large copy of Nemo's "Disgruntled Postal Worker Fantasy List"

[12:49] {dino} :)

[12:49] {nemo} life and death are merely different sides of the same coin...puke

[12:50] {dino} ok, nemo, riddle me this, itri entry?

[12:50] {dino} isle

[12:51] {Threei}  FAZ

[12:52] {dino} ugh, none avail

[12:52] {Threei}  watching for entry under 8

[12:52] {nemo} with market help, break of 43 

[12:52] {nemo} however, stop below .75 

[12:54] {nemo} why itri drop so much?

[12:54] {Threei}  missed earnings

[12:54] {dino} bstop life to .66

[12:54] {nemo} you in itri dino?

[12:55] {nemo} where?

[12:55] {dptl} in faz 8

[12:55] {vinod} in faz 8.00

[12:55] {dino} not yet

[12:56] {dino} waiting 42.80

[12:56] {nemo} what you lookin for, Willis?

[12:56] {vinod} i still have CAT shorted at 36.02   200

[12:56] {dptl} .95 stop?

[12:56] {dino} mgln hmmmm

[12:56] {dino} holding lod so far

[12:56] {Threei}  CHRYSLER FORMALLY FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY PROTECTION

[12:58] {dptl} out .05 ty

[12:59] {nemo} Dino, ITRI

[12:59] {dptl} got to use EDGX with faz ..fills mush faster than isld]

[12:59] {dino} missed itri

[13:00] {Threei}  seriously dp?

[13:00] {Threei}  I get instant ones with ISLD

[13:00] {nemo} ITRI moving without market

[13:01] {dino} i chickened out nemo

[13:01] {dptl} i don't know waiting all the time on isld with this one and edgx filling

[13:01] {nemo} that's o.k.  my middle name

[13:01] {dino} bummer

[13:01] {nemo} yeah .90 so far

[13:01] {Threei}  whose middle name is bummer?

[13:01] {dino} life to .57

[13:01] {nemo} for years I thought my name was "Asshole!"

[13:02] {nemo} I'm crying Dino

[13:02] {Threei}  mine was Hey You

[13:03] {dino} i'm a dumbazz

[13:03] {Threei}  magoos, I bet, is: Mister, don't shoot!!

[13:03] {dino} cov life .55, +.31

[13:04] {dino} there are better worlds(stocks) than these nemo

[13:04] {nemo} 2.00 in 10 minutes?

[13:05] {nemo} mags/3i's google earnings plays not-withstanding

[13:05] {dino} eyes on mgln

[13:07] {Threei}  hmm

[13:07] {Threei}  dp, you are right

[13:07] {Threei}  got very nice fills on both removing and adding liquidity on EDGX

[13:08] {dptl} ye even if you look at ecn t&s you'll see it's all edgx

[13:08] {Threei}  ty, and your middle name from now on is How Very Observant

[13:08] {dptl} what you in again?

[13:09] {Threei}  nothing right now, just scalped FAZ

[13:10] {Threei}  again, both sides adding liquidity this time

[13:10] {Threei}  ECN revate in works

[13:10] {Threei}  rebate

[13:11] {Threei}  laserheads, you know you can sdee rebate real time, right?

[13:11] {Threei}  see

[13:12] {nemo} the "passthru"

[13:12] {Threei}  right

[13:12] {Threei}  can see both overall and on particular stock

[13:12] {nemo} Had no idea

[13:13] {Threei}  look at number before fill

[13:13] {Threei}  then after

[13:13] {Threei}  you'l see it changing

[13:13] {Threei}  if you add liquidity, it will decerase

[13:15] {nemo} you in mgln yet dino?

[13:15] {Threei}  on my FAZ trades today I actually have positive number

[13:15] {Threei}  meaning I got paid by ECNs to play it

[13:16] {vinod} cover cat 35.48 out faz 8.08

[13:17] {Threei}  very nice on CAT

[13:17] {Threei}  over 50 cents

[13:17] {vinod} TK 

[13:17] {dptl} ye ,thats why it's nice to have ecn t&s to see wich ecn is filling the most so you can get out or get in easily

[13:18] {vinod} I have to play my way sometime because of work

[13:18] {Threei}  unless it gets overcrowded

[13:19] {Threei}  trying to bid FAZ 8.02

[13:19] {dino} mgln not yet nemo, waiting at 29.50

[13:19] {Threei}  yeah right FAZ says

[13:20] {dino} darn, covered my shorts too soon

[13:21] {dino} watching mant and itri for drops into this then bounces

[13:25] {dino} sm l mgln .50 wide

[13:26] {dptl} cat bounce? or to early?

[13:31] {dino} tndm

[13:44] {dino} sm l pnra .10

[13:49] {Threei}  S&P LOWERS CHRYSLER LLC'S RATINGS

[13:49] {Threei}  no really?

[13:52] {nemo} pnra looking more like a short now

[13:54] {dino}  depends on mkt imo

[13:55] {ese} ya'll have good time naaa ya hear........see ya tomorrow

[13:55] {dino} cya es

[13:55] {ese} c ya dino

[13:58] {dptl} {dptl} cat bounce? or to early?...lol 

[14:00] {dino} pnra tighten to .87 not working

[14:01] {nemo} kinda' scary if it breaks 57

[14:06] {dino} stopped-.23

[14:08] {nemo} ITRI ino

[14:09] {Threei} Long Setup:  FAS  .50 break if stays above .45

[14:14] {dino} cpla

[14:17] {dptl} valid again?

[14:18] {nemo} you play cpla dino?

[14:19] {Threei}  I'd like it to make one more move between .45 and .50

[14:19] {Threei}  to reestabliash the range

[14:20] {_ryanagler} gs short at 127 maybe?

[14:20] {_ryanagler} both 20 & 50 ma resistance

[14:20] {dino} sm l life .00

[14:21] {dino} nemo, waiting at 49.60

[14:21] {Threei}  finanacials uptrend again ryan

[14:21] {nemo} for CPLA?

[14:21] {Threei}  it's very jerky, can drop of course

[14:22] {Threei}  but there is nothing to indicate entry

[14:26] {dino} y

[14:26] {dptl} .55-.60 now fas?

[14:27] {Threei}  nah

[14:27] {Threei}  pullback into .50 or under

[14:27] {Threei}  I can't chase after such vertical spike

[14:27] {dptl} ok will wait

[14:28] {_ryanagler} short gs at .05

[14:30] {Threei}  swimming against the current ryan...

[14:32] {_ryanagler} youre probably right.  stop is at .50.  usually when 20 and 50 ma converge on 10min to a point at even number its good resist

[14:32] {nemo} ohoh indicators

[14:34] {vint} even after luch hrs, mkt seems tired

[14:34] {jfjf64} fas

[14:35] {Threei}  news helped send GS/FAS down

[14:36] {Threei}  TSLF auction, not very successful

[14:36] {Threei}  not sure it will have any lasting impact though

[14:36] {Threei}  SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: GEITHNER TELLS SENATE THAT NO ADDED BAILOUT FUNDS WILL BE REQUESTED ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE

[14:36] {nemo} hasn't moved TBT

[14:39] {Threei}  half out FAS here

[14:40] {nemo} when did you enter?

[14:40] {nemo} nevermind

[14:45] {_ryanagler} out gs at .50

[14:53] {dino} mant getting interesting again

[14:53] {dino} scor spike

[14:57] {Threei}  uh oh

[14:57] {Threei}  GM

[14:57] {Threei}  BONDHOLDER COMMITTEE HAS REPORTEDLY CANCELLED CONFERENCE CALL; GM NOTES IT WANTS TO FOCUS ON REDUCING DEBT AND CAPACITY AND WORKING WITH AUTO TASK FORCE

[14:57] {Threei}  another sign of strength coming?

[14:58] {Threei}  [12:16] {Threei} - bankruptcy is not a sign of the weakness

[14:59] {dino} score

[15:00] {dino} mwiv drop

[15:03] {Threei}  feels like selloff toward the end of day

[15:03] {Threei}  watch FAZ for entry

[15:03] {Threei}  likely to opullback toward 8 or just under

[15:05] {Threei}  US SENATE DEFEATS CRAM DOWN AMENDMENT TO HOUSING LEGISLATION

[15:05] {dino} mgln stop to .59, mkt fall

[15:05] {dino} life to .89

[15:06] {dino} life stopped -.11

[15:06] {dino} mgln stopped +.09

[15:06] {jfjf64} faz nice

[15:06] {Threei}  you took it jf?

[15:07] {jfjf64} yes .05

[15:07] {jfjf64} out .13

[15:07] {Threei}  good reflexes

[15:07] {fernp} gj

[15:07] {Threei}  it's not over

[15:07] {Threei}  bounce, then selling should resume

[15:08] {_ryanagler} dbl bottom

[15:08] {Threei}  and bounce is not likely to big big

[15:08] {jfjf64} when  do i get hit with the trout

[15:08] {Threei}  I don't think it's going to hold ryan

[15:08] {Threei}  new low is coming

[15:08] {_ryanagler} agree :)

06[15:08] * nemo slaps jfjf64 around a bit with a large roll of cash

[15:09] {jfjf64} yeah 

[15:09] {jfjf64} faz  again

[15:12] {jfjf64} need ya help bg guy

[15:12] {Threei}  what's with DRYS?

[15:13] {nemo} yeah saw that

[15:16] {Threei}  DOW red

[15:16] {Threei}  S&P red

[15:16] {Threei}  NASDAQ is a last one holding

[15:17] {Threei}  here comes breakdown on NASDAQ

[15:17] {Threei}  new low

06[15:17] * Threei high-fives ryan

[15:18] {Threei}  COMP red

[15:18] {Threei}  NQ last one in green

[15:18] {dino} s psys .15

[15:18] {Threei}  FAZ 20 cents spike from under .10

[15:18] {dino} gaps fill, next 8016, 1361,855

[15:25] {Threei}  US HOUSE APPROVES LEGISLATION TO APPROVE CREDIT CARD RULES

[15:25] {jfjf64} ??

[15:25] {Threei}  shrug

[15:25] {jfjf64} no more interest

[15:25] {dino} sm l mwiv .30

[15:27] {jfjf64} faz   .10   

[15:28] {dino} mgln l hl .53

[15:29] {dino} psys stopped -.16 done w/it

[15:30] {Threei}  AIG

[15:30] {Threei}  CONSIDERING CLOSING UNPROFITABLE MORTGAGE GUARANTEE UNIT

[15:30] {Threei}  lol

[15:30] {jfjf64} hmm

[15:30] {Threei}  we must be approaching to bottom of the crisis

[15:31] {jfjf64} faz?

[15:31] {dino} mant sm l .63

[15:31] {Threei}  in .05

[15:31] {Threei}  stop under 8

[15:32] {Threei}  hmmm

[15:32] {Threei}  no news that I see

[15:33] {dptl} faz?

[15:33] {Threei}  15:31] {Threei} in .05

[15:33] {Threei}  [15:31] {Threei} stop under 8

[15:33] {dptl} oh lol

06[15:33] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large alarm clock

[15:34] {dptl} in .05

[15:34] {_ryanagler} in .03

[15:35] {dino} out mwiv .05, +.75

[15:36] {Threei}  wtg dino

[15:36] {fernp} indecent dino :)

[15:37] {dino} lol, lucky bounce

[15:38] {nemo} cu tomorrow

[15:39] {jfjf64} kick this faz

[15:39] {dino} cya nemo

06[15:39] * Threei slowly puts on steel toe boots and looks in FAZ's direction

[15:40] {dino} pnra maybe will fill that gap

[15:40] {dptl} out ty

06[15:40] * Threei meets FAZ eyes

06[15:41] * Threei points finger at his pffer at .15

[15:41] {chinggis} out faz.12 ty

[15:42] {Threei}  sure

[15:42] {dino} mant stop to .83

[15:42] {Threei}  whatever... out .13

[15:43] {jfjf64} ditto ty

[15:43] {jfjf64} faz  got me goin  today   lol

[15:43] {_ryanagler} something big coming

[15:44] {dino} stopped mant +.20

[15:47] {Threei}  last try

[15:48] {Threei}  stop is really small

[15:48] {Threei}  can't stay away

[15:48] {dptl} .05 again?

[15:48] {Threei}  no, took .02

[15:48] {dino} m,gln stop to .93

[15:49] {Threei}  out .08

[15:49] {dino} out +.40

[15:49] {Threei}  chicken feed

[15:49] {Threei}  but there was enough of that today to make it profitable day

[15:49] {_ryanagler} nice

[15:50] {_ryanagler} still holding at .03

[15:51] {dino} light but green

[15:51] {Threei}  yeah

[15:51] {dino} lots of rinses today

[15:52] {Threei}  ryan... you know it's 7 min till eod, right?

[15:53] {_ryanagler} yes.  biggest dumps have come in last 5 min in last couple weeks

[15:53] {Threei}  yeah

[15:53] {_ryanagler} but also biggest rallys :)

[15:53] {Threei}  just making sure :)

[15:53] {Threei}  some here actually frogot

[15:53] {Threei}  and were closing positions in hurry on last seconds, lol

[15:54] {dino} gotta hop, thx all, baseball calls

[15:54] {Threei}  take care dino

[15:54] {dino} u2

[15:55] {Threei}  nice FAZ

[15:56] {_ryanagler} gogo

[15:56] {Threei}  4 min

[15:58] {_ryanagler} fun faz run

[15:58] {jfjf64} woooo    ty    good  night

[15:59] {_ryanagler} stops to .32

[15:59] {dptl} have a good evening all

[15:59] {_ryanagler} ouy. ty vad!

[15:59] {Threei}  thank you all

[15:59] {_ryanagler} out

[15:59] {Threei}  welcome, good job

[16:00] {Threei}  have a good evening

[16:00] {Threei}  see you tomorrow

[16:00] {fernp} good evening all

[16:00] {_ryanagler} take care