Session Time: Tue Nov 17 00:00:00 2009
[08:18] {Threei} Preview: Oct Producer Price Index and PPI ex Food & Energy due at 8:30amET
[08:18] {Threei} - Producer Price Index MoM: 0.5%e v -0.6% prior; YoY expected at -1.8% v -4.8% prior
[08:18] {Threei} - PPI ex Food & Energy MoM: 0.1%e v -0.1% prior; YoY expected at 1.4% v 1.8% prior
[08:20] {Threei} BLTXX Baltic Dry Bulk Index rises 3.8% (14th straight increase)
[08:30] {Threei} *(US) OCT PRODUCERPRICE INDEX M/M: 0.3% V 0.5%E; PPI EX FOOD&ENERGY M/M: -0.6% V 0.1%E
[08:31] {Threei} ONCY Collaborators Present Positive Phase I/II Trial Results in Advanced Solid Cancers with a Focus on the Head and Neck at the AACR-NCI-EORTC Meeting (3.69, 0.00, 0.00%)
[08:36] {nemo} How's the weather down south Strider?
[08:37] {strider} 50 degrees, sunny.
[08:37] {nemo} not that much warmer than up here...mmmhhh
[08:52] {ese} i'm eschewing already ...i'm eschewing
[08:52] {strider} remember to swallow
[08:52] {ese} good morning if your hanging
[08:53] {ese} morning ST
[08:53] {nemo} dude
[08:53] {ese} dude
[08:53] {ese} I got my 5 cents from fitb yesterday.........looks like it took a little bit of a tank end of day
[08:54] {Threei} ese :)
[08:54] {ese} morning vad
[08:59] {lasertrev} morning
[09:00] {Threei} trev :)
[09:00] {Threei} *SEPT NET LONG TERM TIC FLOWS: $40.7B V 30.0BE; TOTAL NET TIC FLOWS: $133.5B V $10.2B PRIOR
[09:02] {ese} hmmm something capitol flows....whats the TI
[09:05] {Les} good afternoon
06[09:05] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large eastern standard time clock
[09:05] {cosmo} evening for some, ya know....
[09:05] {ese} les
[09:05] {nemo} cosmo, where are you?
[09:06] {cosmo} So,Cal.
[09:06] {Threei} les, cosmo :)
[09:06] {nemo} life's tough
[09:06] {ese} boston, hartford?
[09:06] {cosmo} So. Cal that is
[09:06] {Les} I see Bernanke's comments regarding "not too big to fail" yesterday intimately tied to financial services lobbying
[09:07] {Les} "The problem is not that some institutions are too large. It's that there is currently no legal authority to unwind, in an orderly way, a failing financial conglomerate."
[09:07] {Les} hmmm
[09:07] {cosmo} that legal authority has been deregulated i think
[09:08] {cosmo} those serving time for the 1980's Saving and loan scandle where subsequently pardoned by W during his last week.
[09:10] {Threei} what, NLST didn't gap to 8?
[09:10] {Threei} strange
[09:10] {BillyD} yeah and NABI only a dime
[09:10] {Threei} NABI though did first print of the day at 5, lol
[09:11] {nemo} that just frosts my ass
[09:11] {BillyD} poor soul
[09:11] {nemo} sorry
[09:11] {Threei} buyer of that 1K at 5 looks at it now and thinks, what the deuce
[09:11] {Threei} people are so strange sometimes...
[09:15] {Threei} Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:15:02 AM
[09:15] {Threei} * (US) OCT INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION: 0.1% V 0.4%E; CAPACITY UTILIZATION: 70.7% V 70.8%E
[09:15] {Threei} - Prior Industrial Production revised from 0.7% to 0.6%
[09:15] {dino} gm all
[09:15] {nemo} another optimist
[09:16] {Threei} dino :)
[09:16] {ese} dino
[09:17] {Threei} lol, do these guys have quotes:
[09:17] {Threei} PALM Barclays Raised PALM to Equal Weight from Underweight, price target: $11
[09:17] {Threei} seriously
[09:17] {Threei} how do you uograde the stock assigning the target below what it trades now at?
[09:19] {dino} that is called value added research
[09:19] {Threei} ahha
[09:20] {fernp} Good morning everybody
[09:20] {Threei} fern :)
[09:20] {Les} hi fern
[09:21] {dino} because of this 3i, i have decided to apply for two jobs in my next life, research for the street and weather man
[09:21] {nemo} what if you come back as a lemming?
[09:21] {strider} make lemming-aid
[09:22] {dino} i will shrug
[09:22] {BillyD} lol dino
[09:22] {nemo} can lemmings shrug-anatomically speaking
[09:23] {Threei} dino, if you get the reasearch job - I'll apply for for "boy reading the quotes" position
[09:23] {dino} if we do it as a group
[09:23] {dino} lol
[09:23] {Threei} we will have our upgrades a bit more meaningful but more importantly, we will hang out near the beer-cooler
[09:23] {Threei} they'll have those in the next lifetime, right?
[09:24] {Les} canadian solar beat earnings this morn. solars have been hot, STP up yesterday. follow thru today?
[09:24] {Threei} SPWRA looks pitiful
[09:25] {dino} ago
[09:25] {dino} if they don't 3i, i will not make the trip
[09:25] {Threei} CSIQ in fact is the strongest in the group
[09:25] {Les} ouch. what happened to them
[09:26] {Threei} FSLR is green but the position on daily is, ummm
[09:26] {Threei} overall, it seems to me CSIQ is more likely to succumb to a general mood
[09:26] {nemo} rimm ad amzn look like setting up for drops at the open
[09:28] {Threei} no clear candidates for the open
[09:30] {fernp} HGSI daily chart is interesting for 29 or 30 breakout
[09:30] {dino} spwra acct issues
[09:30] {nemo} got rimm right anyway
[09:31] {magoo} teirirrWIR
[09:31] {Threei} mags :)
[09:31] {ese} l sina .61
[09:32] {Threei} wow
[09:32] {magoo} NICE
[09:32] {ese} out sina. .33
[09:32] {ese} whoa
[09:32] {Threei} wtg ese
[09:32] {fernp} gj
[09:32] {ese} 1k + .72 i think
[09:32] {magoo} C YA TOMORROW ES LOL
[09:33] {nemo} was that mags or ese?
[09:33] {ese} it's still goin
[09:33] {ese} that was movin so fast almost couldn't type it
[09:35] {dino} gj
[09:35] {Threei} watch RIMM for sharp pullback
[09:36] {nemo} .25-.35 area?
[09:36] {Threei} 61.10 - .20 area should be good for entry
[09:36] {Threei} no pullback
[09:36] {Les} stp
[09:36] {ese} definitely one of those cases of shoot now ask questions later
[09:38] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM .70 break
[09:38] {Threei} half lot
[09:38] {Threei} if stays under .85
[09:39] {Threei} invalidated
[09:39] {magoo} monster pllbk sINA vad
[09:39] {Threei} .80 break RIMM
[09:39] {Threei} if stays under .95
[09:39] {Threei} half lot!
[09:41] {dino} jec blood
[09:42] {Threei} NABI 5
[09:42] {Threei} morning buyer is out
[09:42] {Threei} with sigh of relief
[09:42] {Les} hgsi just broke resistance
[09:42] {Threei} no go RIMM
[09:44] {nemo} amzn dropping, it breaks 131 could go a bit
[09:45] {Threei} why am I not convinced by this morning ramp-up...
[09:45] {nemo} nor genetically sunny disposition?
[09:45] {Threei} pronbably
[09:46] {dino} lol gut feeling down
[09:46] {Threei} yeah
[09:46] {Threei} don't want to short arbitrarily
[09:46] {Threei} so hunting for topping setups
[09:47] {Threei} Short Setup: NTRI .90 break half lot
[09:47] {Threei} if stays under 23
[09:48] {nemo} amzn broke 131
[09:49] {Les} mbi
[09:49] {Les} sorry under 5
[09:49] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM .95 break half lot
[09:49] {Threei} if stays below 62.10
[09:50] {magoo} trend fighter?
[09:50] {Threei} nope
[09:50] {Threei} invalidated
[09:50] {nemo} market still too strong
[09:50] {nemo} amzn going against market
[09:50] {nemo} should be weak today
[09:51] {nemo} was weak yesterday
[09:53] {dino} randon
[09:53] {Threei} VVUS?
[09:53] {Threei} no news that I see
[09:53] {Threei} ahha
[09:53] {Threei} rumors
[09:53] {Threei} VVUS Hearing vague chatter could receive approval for a product (0.87, 0.00, 0.00%)
[09:53] {Threei} bunker is at work
[09:54] {Les} rimm now?
[09:54] {Threei} market is upticking again
[09:54] {nemo} got support at .89 les
[09:54] {Threei} let's see how RIMM handles it
[09:55] {ese} dino you had a look at spwra
[09:55] {magoo} news SINA?
[09:56] {Threei} beat earnings yesterday
[09:56] {Threei} got couple upgrades today
[09:56] {Threei} RIMM just had to invalidate setup befor working, eh?
[09:57] {Les} HGSI close to breaking suppport
[09:57] {Threei} 29?
[09:58] {Les} .97 no? but its bouncing
[09:59] {Threei} hgsi
[09:59] {Threei} let it consolidate above the support,
[09:59] {Threei} so you have the resistance defined for a stop placement
[09:59] {Threei} so far resistance is .20
[10:00] {Threei} die NTRI
[10:01] {ese} ya know....i get this feeling drys is going to be mentioning a drilling rig contract soon....call me crazy but......it's acting odd
[10:02] {Threei} BLTXX had 14th straight increase ese
[10:02] {Threei} both DRYS and EGLE are strong
[10:02] {dino} i'll hit the time machine w/stewie and let you know es
[10:02] {fernp} ty Vad
[10:02] {KSystems} morning!
[10:02] {Threei} I'll be right behind with mad Doc, dino
[10:02] {ese} ya ok
[10:03] {Threei} ks :)
[10:03] {Threei} he says flux capacitor is almost fixed
[10:03] {dino} lol
[10:03] {ese} goes right along with the clairvoyance thing
[10:04] {Threei} that;s the one we embracing, right?
[10:04] {Threei} not eschewing
[10:05] {dino} aixg
[10:06] {Threei} RIMM bounced
[10:06] {Threei} right into resistance
[10:06] {Threei} NTRI 1:1
[10:06] {Threei} grrr... keep missing RIMM
[10:07] {Threei} oh come on, that was a perfect short opportunity finally
[10:07] {Threei} and I slept through it
[10:08] {dino} ibkc hl s .60 stop .94
06[10:08] * strider slaps Threei around a bit with a large feather pillow
[10:09] {Threei} I don't take this kind of abuse from males strider...
[10:09] {dino} no pillow talk
[10:10] {fernp} Vad, Why have we shorted NTRI? its daily and intraday seemed good for breakout. What have you seen on it?
[10:10] {Threei} breakout would have been invalidation of the setup,
[10:10] {Threei} breakdown of the support is breakout failure
[10:10] {Threei} or breakout invalidation if happens first
[10:10] {Threei} rught?
[10:10] {fernp} fading the setup
[10:10] {fernp} ok
[10:11] {Threei} yes
[10:11] {Threei} so, looking for short setup, you have two options
[10:11] {Threei} short the weakest
[10:11] {Threei} or short relatively storng but failing to follow through
[10:11] {Threei} and the sign of such failure is loss of support instead of breaking the resistance
[10:12] {Threei} after signal is in, the rest is simple a trade management with no thinking involved
[10:12] {fernp} I understand. Thank you
[10:12] {magoo} AGO big pullbk
[10:12] {Threei} (my favorite part as it alows me to get back to my neanderthal core)
[10:12] {Threei} now, having RIMM pegged as a short and missing it keeps me grinding my teeth
[10:14] {Les} MS?
[10:14] {Threei} Les, took HGSI breakdown?
[10:14] {Threei} nicely hit 1:1 and more
[10:15] {Threei} MS is .50 break short
[10:15] {Les} i am ashamed to say no
[10:15] {Les} i did not
[10:16] {Threei} with stop for scalpers above .60
[10:16] {Threei} no need to be ashamed really, just use the discussion and observation to collect more of "standard situations"
[10:17] {Les} k. I like reading charts. trading them is not so easy for me.
[10:18] {Threei} of course... otherwise everyone would be doing that, got rich, abandoned work and civilization as we know it would have ceased to exist
[10:18] {Threei} that's what we are doing here though: eliminating barrier between read and execution
[10:20] {Threei} as far as I am concerned Hawaii can have their pineapple express back... this rain becomes tiresome
[10:21] {fernp} HIG .40 break is good idea?
[10:21] {Threei} most likely, yes
[10:22] {Threei} looking at SPWRA with short in mind
[10:22] {Threei} got e-mail from a friend over there though, they have it even worse right now... his litarl words were "my lawn flowing past the window"
[10:22] {fernp} lol
[10:22] {Threei} .50 in nearest resistance for SPWRA
[10:23] {Threei} let's see if it bounces there,
[10:23] {Threei} to short first weakness with stop above .60
[10:24] {dino} cov ibkc -.11 stuck
[10:24] {Threei} volume looks to be shaping right for HIG breakout fern
[10:24] {Threei} Long Setup: HIG .40 break if stays above .30
[10:24] {fernp} thank. my finger is ready
[10:25] {Threei} SPWRA, breakdown short would be .30
[10:25] {Threei} .30 break I mean
[10:25] {Threei} with stop above .50...
[10:25] {Threei} a bit wider than I'd like
[10:26] {Threei} HIG invalidated
[10:27] {dino} esc hl l .19 stop .87
[10:28] {Les} weakness all round, but where's the entry...
[10:28] {fernp} .29 SPWRA in one entry
[10:28] {fernp} is
[10:29] {dino} hl jec l .15 stop .83
[10:30] {Threei} US Fed to trim maxiumum maturity of discount window loans to 28 days from 90; effective Jan 14
[10:31] {Threei} cites improvement in financial markets
[10:31] {dino} after they take the trimmings off the xmas trees
[10:31] {nemo} gag
[10:38] {Les} fcx short?
[10:39] {Threei} looks right
[10:39] {fernp} still above .50 SPWRA stop?
[10:39] {nemo} rimm too
[10:39] {Threei} .35 break
[10:39] {Threei} I'd trail it fern
[10:40] {fernp} .40?
[10:40] {Threei} to above .45 or .40, depending on how much in hurry you are
[10:40] {Threei} there you go Les
[10:40] {Threei} pattern recognition starts kicking in
[10:40] {ese} am signing off to lay dn for an hour....flu thing i think
[10:40] {Threei} 1:1 FCX
[10:41] {Threei} btw, tell me what pattern that was, and I'll be one happy boy for today
[10:41] {nemo} 1/2 out rimm
[10:41] {dino} vaya con dias es
[10:42] {Threei} take care ese, get well
[10:42] {fernp} bye ese
[10:42] {nemo} 1/4 more
[10:43] {dino} tjx lod
[10:43] {Threei} (US/CA) USGS: 6.5 Magnitude Earthquake reported off coast of British Columbia
[10:43] {Threei} hmmm
[10:43] {Threei} I didn't feel anything
[10:44] {Les} ty Vad. covered HIG +.12, FCX +.10
[10:44] {nemo} way off the coast
[10:44] {Threei} wtg Les
[10:44] {fernp} FCX was a dbi that I missed trading SPWRA
[10:44] {Les} how many vodkas you had this morning Vad'
[10:44] {Les} perhaps explains lack of feeling for earthquake
[10:44] {Threei} don't eschew rthe question Les...
[10:44] {Threei} what pattern FCX was?? :)
[10:44] {dino} gj les
[10:45] {nemo} out rimm .32
[10:45] {Les} what pattern?
[10:45] {nemo} fcx
[10:45] {Threei} chart pattern that shaped up as a short
[10:45] {Les} is this trick question, or school time?
[10:45] {Threei} no tricks
[10:45] {nemo} the one you called les
[10:45] {Threei} what am I, ancient mayan
[10:46] {Threei} to trick people into being scared of 2012
[10:46] {nemo} no...neanderthal
[10:46] {Les} hmm can't put name to pattern
[10:46] {Threei} yeah... forgot
[10:46] {Threei} let me give you time frame
[10:46] {Threei} on 1 min
[10:46] {nemo} 10:06 to 10:40
[10:46] {Threei} right
[10:47] {nemo} not as dumb as I look
[10:47] {cosmo} http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/AK10/50.60.-140.-120.php
[10:47] {Threei} 10:08 to be exact
[10:47] {nemo} eh...not if you include the tail on the candle
[10:47] {nemo} that is since you did call break .35
[10:47] {dino} tjx hl l .30, stop .97
[10:47] {Threei} ok, 10:07
[10:47] {Les} wait a minute. inverted c&h?
[10:48] {nemo} are we arguing?
[10:48] {Threei} A+
[10:48] {Threei} you made my day Les
[10:48] {nemo} nah....B for time
[10:48] {nemo} then again...he made money....so
[10:48] {Les} I am smart arse like nemo, but I do pay attention
[10:48] {Threei} finding patterns, nailing entries and actually executing trades
[10:48] {nemo} yep
[10:48] {nemo} a+
[10:49] {Threei} teaching fishing works, eh
[10:49] {Threei} die already SPWRA
[10:49] {Threei} topped out at .40 on the last bounce btw
[10:49] {Threei} so stop is for sure above .40 now
[10:50] {Les} question. does laser permit multiple trades at a time? like multiple windows for trading various stocks at same time rapidly?
[10:50] {nemo} yep
[10:50] {Threei} Tsunami is not expected
[10:50] {Threei} - Earthquake centered 70 miles/113 Km southeast of Sandsp
[10:50] {Threei} hmmm... text end on Sandsp
[10:50] {Threei} one who wrote it was living there?
[10:50] {dino} jec stopped -/32
[10:50] {Threei} yes les
[10:50] {Threei} open a few windows and do a few trades
[10:51] {Threei} that's what I do
[10:52] {dino} gme\
[10:52] {dino} gap fill
[10:53] {nemo} eh...scalpers regret rimm...sniff, coulda had 1:5
[10:53] {Threei} where di you short it nemo, I missed?
[10:53] {nemo} right after Les called fcx at 62.20 rimm
[10:54] {Threei} with stop above .35?
[10:54] {nemo} [10:38] {Les} fcx short?
[10:54] {nemo} [10:39] {&Threei} looks right
[10:54] {nemo} [10:39] {fernp} still above .50 SPWRA stop?
[10:54] {nemo} [10:39] {nemo} rimm too
[10:54] {nemo} yes
[10:54] {nemo} well, I was looking .30
[10:55] {nemo} or a close above .30 that is, I chicken out on tails of the candles alot, and then it closes within the stop range on me
[10:55] {nemo} Makes me feel like an idiot when I stop out at the top or bottom of the range
[10:56] {Threei} don't provoke me
[10:56] {nemo} provoke what?
[10:56] {Threei} we neanderthals like those chins
[10:56] {nemo} oh...go ahead, it'll make you feel good
[10:56] {nemo} remember...I'm a masochist
[10:57] {Threei} lol... I'll withold the whack then
[10:57] {nemo} I know..hahahaha
[10:57] {nemo} rimm consolidating 70-.80
[10:58] {Threei} lol, looking how NTRI doesn;'t go anywhere I start thinking we just got lucky on that short and caught almost random movement
[10:59] {nemo} today's nabi
[11:00] {Threei} fiinally SPWRA
[11:00] {Threei} sure took its sweet time
[11:00] {Threei} 1:1
[11:01] {fernp} ty
[11:01] {Threei} sure thing
[11:03] {Threei} rain finally stopped too
[11:12] {dino} tjx stopped
[11:13] {Threei} FNM Exec: Forecasting home sales to rise when recession ends
[11:13] {Threei} no really?
[11:14] {Threei} 2010 housing starts to rise 35%
[11:14] {nemo} government employee...probably barney's ex
[11:14] {BillyD} brilliance is deafening
[11:17] {fernp} market lod. QID Vad?
[11:18] {Threei} most likely...
[11:18] {Threei} I just hate breakouts on it
[11:18] {fernp} ok
[11:19] {Threei} and we moved into lunch time
[11:19] {nemo} fcx at sink or swim
[11:19] {Threei} can we reasonably expect big break and follow through ,
[11:19] {Threei} or rather choppy shakeouts?
[11:19] {nemo} the latter
[11:19] {Threei} that's my concern
[11:19] {nemo} which means, it'll drop like a stone
[11:19] {nemo} since I figure shakeouts
[11:20] {fernp} you are too rational Vad. Mags QID? lol
[11:20] {nemo} we are approaching the nefarious lunch hour
[11:20] {Threei} you want irrational? here:
[11:21] {Threei} NABI .20 break
[11:21] {Threei} ratget 6
[11:21] {nemo} that's a good one
[11:21] {Threei} how's that for irrational? :)
[11:21] {nemo} after yesterday's water torture...very
[11:22] {BillyD} was that a real call?
[11:22] {magoo} pard vad
[11:22] {Threei} no Billy
[11:22] {fernp} no
[11:22] {nemo} look at .25, same trap as yesterday
[11:22] {BillyD} ok, there is CC going on now for NABI
[11:22] {nemo} who is CC?
[11:22] {nemo} Captain Cramer?
[11:22] {BillyD} conference call
[11:23] {Threei} PARD news was pretty horrible mags... dunno
[11:23] {BillyD} THOR but wide
[11:26] {BillyD} if SPWRA consolidates and break of 22 might be good
[11:29] {dino} jec
[11:34] {BillyD} I take scalps today and there seems to be follow thru....
[11:34] {BillyD} yesterday the opposite
[11:34] {nemo} glad I didn't take Nabi break
[11:34] {BillyD} took NABI at 4.61 this morning for scalp...and you know the rest...lol
06[11:35] * nemo slaps BillyD around a bit with a large roll of cash
[11:35] {Threei} well, at least you didn't get scalped
[11:36] {nemo} scalped isn't the word that comes to mind
[11:36] {BillyD} exactly, not complaining or regretting
[11:36] {BillyD} simply observing
[11:38] {BillyD} Vad, question for you
[11:38] {BillyD} I took SPWRA short at 22
[11:38] {BillyD} with .10 hopeful stop due to large offer and .16 drop dead
[11:39] {BillyD} took +.10 scalp
[11:39] {BillyD} it looked like trap possibilities
[11:40] {BillyD} does that stop structure and last 1 min high of .09 make sense to you?
[11:40] {Threei} it does,
[11:40] {Threei} the only distinction I'd make is
[11:40] {Threei} I would be more jazzed about looking for entries into bounce on it
[11:41] {Threei} bounce into resistance, if it shows a setup
[11:41] {Threei} it tends to torture you for a while on breakdowns
[11:41] {Threei} not this time, you got luckier on this entry
[11:41] {BillyD} you mean SPWRA personality ?
[11:41] {Threei} but remember hiow long it kept us hostages with .30 entrey
[11:41] {BillyD} ok
[11:41] {Threei} the way it trades today, yes
[11:42] {Threei} overall, that was valid setup
[11:42] {BillyD} thx
[11:44] {Threei} SPWRA Hearing SPWRA upgraded at Soleil (timing uncertain) (21.92, -5.31, -19.50%)
[11:44] {Threei} Fed's Lacker: Main objective for USD is for domestic purchasing power; 'extended period of time' phrase pertains to no specific time frame - Q&A
[11:44] {Threei} - comments that the discount window adjustment will help restore normalcy
[11:46] {dino} jec double bottom
[11:46] {dino} l off of .50 break
[11:56] {Threei} fern... see how QID break would have been a perfect trap?
[11:56] {nemo} watch amazon for a bear flag here
06[11:56] * Threei pats himself on the back for eschewing it, even at the risk of dislocating his shoulder
[11:57] {nemo} probably working back to the .20 area
[11:57] {fernp} yes. i saw earlier
[11:57] {strider} just remember, vad after you eschew it, you should spit it out.
[11:58] {fernp} thanks for your rationality :-)
[11:58] {Threei} yeah, or I'd have to embrace it
[11:58] {strider} eewwww!
[11:58] {Threei} there is some mismatch here
[11:58] {Threei} how come people who know me personally never put me and rational in the same line
[11:59] {nemo} [11:56] * &Threei pats himself on the back for eschewing it, even at the risk of dislocating his shoulder
[11:59] {Les} WHR threatening new lows. volume aint great though.
[11:59] {nemo} because your always complementing yourself anyway
[11:59] {Threei} oh
[11:59] {Threei} okay then
[11:59] {Threei} but what can I do if no one else does
[12:00] {strider} Vad is a market complementarian
[12:00] {nemo} is that the tree falling in the forest question?
[12:01] {Threei} trying to decode strider's meaning
[12:01] {strider} =market contrarian
[12:01] {nemo} just ignore it like I do :)
[12:01] {Threei} in what way I complement the market - in slap;ping hard for mistakes?
[12:02] {strider} I hate it when I have to explain my superior wit}}
[12:02] {Threei} nemo
[12:02] {strider} whoops. complimentarian
[12:02] {strider} but imperfect spelling.
[12:02] {nemo} that's kinda' like using military and intelligence together Strider
[12:02] {Threei} we need a rifle to shoot this unusdually high horse he rode in on
[12:03] {nemo} I'm good at distance though Vad?
06[12:03] * strider slaps nemo around a bit with a large GRE exam score.
[12:03] {nemo} oxymoron-thats it
[12:03] {nemo} been hit in the head too many times
[12:04] {strider} jec-which way's it going, dino?
[12:04] {nemo} watch TIES for support around here
[12:04] {nemo} T&S
[12:04] {dino} up
[12:05] {strider} com: Jacobs Engineering says chemical business is slow outside of Middle East
[12:05] {strider} These comments were made at the Q4 Jacobs Engineering Group earnings conference call.
[12:05] {nemo} bids are catching bigger size
[12:05] {magoo} vad, we in anything? and how can i program that question into this forum so i can just hit 1 key to ask?
[12:05] {Threei} no mags
[12:05] {Threei} and you can't
[12:05] {dino} awia magoo
[12:06] {nemo} aawiav
[12:06] {nemo} awiav
[12:06] {dino} are we in anything
[12:06] {nemo} vad
[12:06] {magoo} ROFLOL
[12:08] {Threei} lol
[12:08] {nemo} think of the variations awiaogo awiadv awia3i
[12:09] {nemo} fcx near the top of it's range
[12:11] {dino} hl l ese .69
[12:14] {Les} thanks Nemo out +.10 on fcx
[12:14] {nemo} yw
[12:15] {ese} i'm back
[12:15] {nemo} dude
[12:15] {ilana} RIMM capitulation
[12:15] {Threei} spared by the earthquake and even no rain, ese?
[12:16] {Threei} RIMM sharp drop into support, good eye
[12:16] {ese} dude
[12:16] {nemo} yeah, I was looking at rimm, the volume pattern wasn't making a lot of sense to me on the increase
[12:16] {nemo} then again, 3 letter words don't either
[12:18] {Threei} .70 break for a scalp, anyone?
[12:18] {strider} RIMM lvl1 showing incorrect LOD
[12:18] {BillyD} short Vad?
[12:18] {Threei} 60.65... looks right to me
[12:18] {nemo} look at 8:06 strider
[12:19] {Threei} no, bounce scalp if breaks .70
[12:19] {nemo} then 9:31
[12:19] {nemo} after 9:30 they start calculating
[12:19] {strider} 11:02, 61.52
[12:19] {strider} whoops
[12:19] {strider} never mind. :(
[12:19] {nemo} yeah
[12:19] {nemo} I feel better about myself
[12:20] {dino} heat
[12:20] {strider} I get those darn 0s and 1s confusedd]
[12:20] {BillyD} stop .60 then?
[12:20] {nemo} break on rimm at lunch vad?
[12:21] {Threei} this is not a breakout play
[12:21] {Threei} this is bounce
[12:21] {nemo} oh bounce, sorry
[12:21] {Threei} see... not much reasong forthis: [12:19] {nemo} I feel better about myself
[12:21] {Threei} {GGG}
[12:21] {nemo} yes there was
[12:21] {dino} heat
[12:21] {Threei} not for long
[12:21] {ilana} missed
[12:22] {nemo} [12:19] {strider} 11:02, 61.52
[12:22] {nemo} [12:19] {strider} whoops
[12:22] {nemo} [12:19] {strider} never mind. :(
[12:22] {fernp} missed. too fast
[12:22] {Threei} feel free to take profit on RIMM
[12:22] {magoo} HEAT news vad?
[12:22] {Threei} just a scalp, as intended
[12:22] {Threei} not since yesterday
[12:23] {Threei} beat earnings, announced yesterday before open
[12:23] {dino} jec triggereed
[12:23] {nemo} C&H on amzn 130.50
[12:23] {nemo} .45
[12:24] {Les} wow just played upro for +.20. nasty spread. not nice.
[12:26] {Threei} you don't look at these things before the trade?
[12:26] {nemo} yeah, upro pretty thin
[12:28] {Threei} (US) Treasury Sec Geithner: US economy is growing again, although the environment remains tough
[12:28] {Threei} - Calls financial markets "much more stable." (related EUR/USD )
[12:28] {nemo} growing...inflated maybe
[12:33] {strider} Hey fern. Awhile back you said the stop loss function on LVL2 was working for you. what route does that work with?
[12:34] {fernp} route -} route and in the blotter you see "auto" when executed
[12:35] {fernp} route -} stop
[12:36] {strider} And under 'type' is a stop loss a stop or a stop L?
[12:36] {fernp} limit or market. What do you want? :-)
[12:37] {strider} OK. didn't know if "L" mean limit or loss.
[12:37] {fernp} StopT should be trailing. but I never used
[12:42] {strider} So, under route}stop, there are two choices for type: stop and stop L. stop = stop market, and stop L means stop limit. Correct?
[12:42] {fernp} yes
[12:42] {strider} thx
[12:42] {fernp} :-)
[12:45] {strider} btw, +.22 on ESE. out .91. thx dino.
[12:45] {fernp} note that if you select Stop then "price field" is unavailable. You can't write a price there
[12:47] {strider} Oh. so under Stop L you put in a stop price and a limit price?
[12:47] {fernp} right
[12:47] {strider} don't understand
[12:47] {fernp} that's the difference
[12:47] {strider} so say stop price would be .50 (on a long) and limit would be .53?
[12:48] {strider} for example.
[12:48] {nemo} interesting, where are those choices?
[12:48] {Threei} stop price is the price your stop is getting triggered by
[12:48] {nemo} I bring up stop route, but don't see those choices
[12:48] {Threei} limit is the price to wich it will chase
[12:48] {strider} yeah. what I said}:)
[12:49] {Threei} unlike stop market where you enter triger price only
[12:49] {Threei} and market order is being sent when it's hit
[12:49] {strider} nemo..under route, choose stop.
[12:49] {fernp} limit is the worst price you admit
[12:49] {strider} gotcha.
[12:49] {nemo} yes
[12:50] {nemo} but I don't see any choices...just using the limit and market buttons?
[12:50] {strider} under route=stop, type options are stop and stop L
[12:50] {BillyD} nemo. on L2 do you see the TYPE drop down
[12:51] {nemo} yes route=} stop
[12:51] {strider} now look under type options
[12:51] {strider} 'type'
[12:51] {nemo} must have the wrong LII interface
[12:51] {nemo} no such animal
[12:51] {fernp} route -} stop and type --} stop or stopL
[12:51] {strider} need advanced LII
[12:52] {BillyD} do you have to have the ROUTE Stop option checked or can you use NASDAQ as the route and still enter stop orders?
[12:52] {strider} actually you don't.
[12:52] {BillyD} it appears I can on my L2 order entry
[12:52] {strider} it's under my regular lvl 2 also.
[12:52] {fernp} doesn't work Billy
[12:53] {BillyD} have to use STOP route then Fern?
[12:53] {fernp} the order never triggers if you don't select route = stop
[12:54] {BillyD} ok, thank you...are the fills pretty good then doing a stop limit
[12:54] {strider} new dbl bottom for JEC, dino.
[12:54] {BillyD} since you don't know what route is used
[12:55] {strider} PARD
[12:55] {fernp} if you are in front of your computer don't use stop orders
[12:55] {BillyD} right, but if stepped away is it reliable using the STOP route to get fills
[12:56] {fernp} yes. But i always use market order
[12:56] {dino} dk strider coin toss imo
[12:56] {BillyD} ok thx Fern
[12:56] {BillyD} is Lasertrev here?
[12:57] {nemo} electronically
[12:57] {Threei} easy to check Billy.. try to slap him
[12:57] {Threei} can be slapped - ergo exists
06[12:57] * nemo slaps lasertrev around a bit with a large trout
[12:57] {fernp} all this information is avilable on API documentation
[12:57] {BillyD} at Genesis fern?
[12:58] {fernp} yes
[13:00] {Threei} NOV NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 17 V 19E
[13:00] {Threei} - prior revised from 18 to 17
[13:00] {Threei} Fed's Pianalto: US beginning to emerge from crisis; housing will take time to fully recover
[13:00] {Threei} - sees recovery as 'gradual', 'bumpy'; Fed still must do more
[13:00] {Threei} yeah? I think they've done enough
[13:01] {nemo} interesting $ and oil up
[13:06] {Les} RIMM breakdown from .50?
[13:06] {Threei} looks good
[13:06] {Threei} except time of the day
[13:07] {Threei} bit with 10 cents risk, why not
[13:07] {Les} ah bon? everyone out to lunch?
[13:07] {Threei} pattern follow through is usually questionable during lunch time
[13:07] {Les} k
[13:08] {BillyD} Vad, does that lunchtime comment apply to your RIMM bounce play earlier?
[13:09] {BillyD} or is it bounce plays that have better follow thru
[13:10] {Threei} oscillations within the range are usually more reliable suring this time,
[13:10] {Threei} so are bounces,
[13:10] {Threei} but breakouts and breakdowns are the least desirable plays at lunch
[13:10] {BillyD} ok, just clarifying
[13:12] {Threei} ok... pineapple express gone I think
[13:12] {Threei} saaun is out
[13:12] {Threei} sun too
[13:13] {fernp} HIG breaking hod
[13:19] {fernp} I'm long .41 HIG w/stop under .30
[13:20] {fernp} out
[13:20] {BillyD} gj fern
[13:20] {fernp} ty
[13:21] {Threei} good one
[13:22] {BillyD} finding setups seem a little easier today
[13:23] {nemo} funny, Obama wants the yuan to appreciate, but that guarantees inflation in the US
[13:24] {strider} auto stop doesn't seem to work with shorts.
[13:31] {magoo} AWIAV?
[13:32] {nemo} nwan
[13:32] {Threei} c
[13:33] {Threei} which is short for Coma
[13:34] {fernp} thanks, I was looking for setup in Citigroup :)
[13:34] {Threei} lol
[13:34] {magoo} although vad, id think u are answering we are in citigroup
[13:35] {nemo} think bull trap on amzn?
[13:35] {Threei} ydes, unless arket suddenly ramps up
[13:36] {dino} jec hl l .75
[13:42] {nemo} be interesting to see if amzn attracts volume over 131
[13:42] {Threei} GS Reportedly cooperating with Berkshire to provide aid for 10K small businesses in new philanthropy - unconfirmed report (176.77, -0.48, -0.27%) (related BRK.A TLT SHY XLF )
[13:42] {Threei} damage control in PR department?
[13:43] {nemo} said the spider to the fly
[13:44] {strider} PARD
[13:48] {BillyD} NABI holds well so far
[13:49] {Threei} yeah but it did yesterday too
[13:49] {BillyD} you are not buying into its changed behavior...lol
[13:49] {BillyD} or teasing
[13:51] {dino} most likely equity stakes
[13:53] {dino} ese stop to .94
[13:53] {magoo} DINOOOOOOOOOO
[13:53] {magoo} hooks a big one
[13:54] {strider} out 1/2 jec...muchas gracias, dino.
[13:54] {strider} +.25
[13:54] {dino} jec to .98
[13:54] {magoo} STRIPPER:)
[13:55] {dino} np stride, gj
[13:55] {strider} howd you know?
[13:55] {dino} out jec +.23
[13:55] {fernp} gj strider
[13:56] {fernp} gj dino
[13:56] {dino} thx
[13:57] {strider} holding balance with stop at b/e.....79
[13:58] {dino} pot
[13:59] {strider} got any?
[13:59] {dino} will re-load around .70 is goes there
[13:59] {strider} pot
[13:59] {dino} say no to drugs
[13:59] {nemo} knew it was coming
[13:59] {dino} ese tighten to .97
[14:01] {dino} gdx and gld move up
[14:02] {dino} bwld wants gap filled
[14:03] {dino} ese to .99 stalled
[14:04] {BillyD} Vad, any read SPWRA .60 break
[14:04] {BillyD} stop look stoo wide to me
[14:06] {Threei} .45 can be used
[14:06] {Threei} if this market pullback is a little bull flag, it may help SPWRA when springs up
[14:09] {strider} AAPL drop
[14:09] {strider} downgrade
[14:09] {magoo} look at AMZN
[14:10] {strider} also AMZN downgrade
[14:10] {Threei} I see fresh downgrade on AAPL... not on AMZN
[14:10] {strider} Needham
[14:11] {Threei} but nonetheless, RIMM should be next
[14:11] {Threei} ahha, here comes AMZN too
[14:11] {dino} you mean a bruised apple
[14:11] {dino} iid
[14:11] {magoo} out jec here 39 TY dino
[14:11] {magoo} +.25
[14:12] {dino} gj
[14:12] {Threei} good one
[14:12] {dino} you guys do better on my picks than i
[14:13] {strider} actually, that's not hard to do....since nobody's entry is likely to be at low
[14:13] {BillyD} watch RIMM to see if hold s.50 area and break .40 area
[14:13] {strider} even YOURS!:)
[14:13] {dino} makes sense (& cents)
[14:13] {strider} I'm still in a little from .79
[14:13] {strider} and thanks:)
[14:13] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM .40
[14:15] {Threei} come on Needham, downgrade RIMM for the good measure
[14:15] {strider} stop .55ish?
[14:15] {Threei} yeah
[14:15] {dino} ese to .03
[14:16] {strider} sprd downgrade Needham
[14:16] {Threei} Needham on a roll
[14:16] {Threei} really RIMM's turn
[14:16] {strider} in.38
[14:17] {magoo} in .385
[14:17] {Threei} am I the only one with unconditional love for aggressive entries
[14:17] {Threei} 1:1
[14:17] {fernp} .39 here
[14:17] {BillyD} out
[14:18] {Threei} half out
[14:18] {magoo} out .23 ty
[14:18] {Threei} me greedy
[14:18] {fernp} ty Mr Graifer
[14:18] {BillyD} you typed 1:1 before it hit
[14:18] {Threei} got in aggresively so can aford it
[14:18] {magoo} cheating:)
[14:18] {Threei} why, it was tyrading .29 when it did
06[14:18] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:18] {BillyD} ok....thought my quotes off
[14:18] {Threei} welcome fern, lol
[14:18] {dino} 2:20
[14:19] {strider} out +.08 +.15
[14:19] {dino} out ese .02, +.33
[14:19] {strider} much grass
[14:19] {Threei} funny... NASDAQ goes up, our short goes down
[14:19] {Threei} are we good or what
[14:19] {fernp} great spot Billy / Threei
[14:19] {BillyD} yw
[14:19] {dino} gj
[14:22] {strider} out balance JEC, stopped +.10
[14:22] {strider} and that auto stop works....kewl
[14:22] {fernp} i like your stops (+.10)
[14:23] {strider} don't you have that feature on your Laser?
[14:23] {strider} :)
[14:23] {Les} fcx trying to breach resistance
[14:23] {fernp} lol
[14:26] {dino} will jec hold
[14:30] {strider} I sure don't know.
[14:35] {dino} iid pretty good smack down
[14:35] {BillyD} watching NLST for possible short if stays under 5, but it is down quite a bit already
[14:36] {BillyD} forget it
[14:36] {strider} JEC invserse c&h
[14:40] {strider} and thar she goes
[14:40] {strider} without me:(
[14:40] {Les} fcx good to go long Vad?
[14:41] {Threei} not here
[14:41] {Threei} .50 break, coluld be if you are in a breakout mode
[14:41] {Threei} I wouldn't go even for that though
[14:42] {Threei} HEV CEO: Think Global has applied for govt loan to develop battery manufacturing plant (15.36, +0.31, 2.06%)
[14:42] {nemo} hehe look at the market volume..
[14:42] {Les} watchya thinking? market weakness, dollar?
[14:42] {Threei} which reminds me... look at AONE
[14:42] {magoo} and?
[14:43] {fernp} yes, and?
[14:43] {Threei} ridiculously weak
[14:43] {nemo} si, y
[14:43] {Threei} was a highflier
[14:44] {Threei} but when bounce finally comes, will be a good one just on squeeze
[14:46] {Threei} volume? what volume nemo?
[14:46] {Threei} there is none
[14:46] {Threei} it's not even funny
[14:46] {nemo} duh
[14:46] {Threei} no sorry... still funny... but my sense of humor is one of 14 years old
[14:46] {Threei} I am easily amused
[14:51] {strider} JEC theflyonthewall.com: Jacobs Engineering downgraded to Hold from Buy at Morgan Joseph
[14:52] {magoo} rimm short w/futes vad..loss ,50?
[14:52] {Threei} why not
[14:52] {Threei} if stays under .60
[14:52] {dino} jec: upgraded to hold, dino the dog
[14:53] {strider} vampire upgrade
[14:53] {nemo} look for dt rimm at 65
[14:53] {nemo} .65
[14:53] {strider} teenage girls must love you.
[14:53] {dino} practicing for next life
[14:54] {dino} lol, in the day yes
[14:56] {Les} inverted c&h fcx?
[14:56] {fernp} Have a good evening everybody. See you all tomorrow
[14:56] {Les} bye fern
[14:56] {Threei} take care fern
[14:56] {nemo} not sure on fcx it's stayed strong in market weakness this afternoon
[14:56] {Threei} no les
[14:56] {strider} bye fern
[14:56] {Threei} too small
[14:56] {Les} k
[14:56] {dino} cya fern
[14:56] {Threei} they need a bit more time to be reliable
[14:58] {fernp} ahh!! Vad Forgive me for having called you rational. I'll never do it again :-) see you all
[14:58] {Threei} lol
[14:58] {nemo} cya fern
[14:58] {dino} wlt
[14:58] {Threei} don't call me nice either while you are at it
[14:58] {Threei} girls don't like that
[14:59] {nemo} o.k. what's rimm climbing on
[14:59] {Threei} on fumes?
[14:59] {nemo} good one
[14:59] {strider} on the nemo downgrade3
[15:00] {nemo} got the 3i disease huh Strider
[15:00] {nemo} 1 finger 2 keys
[15:00] {Threei} hey, I am working on 3 keys
[15:00] {nemo} use your forehead
[15:00] {cosmo} apwr
[15:01] {strider} using the muzzle of my..........
[15:01] {strider} dog
[15:02] {nemo} interesting strider
[15:02] {nemo} your mind scares me
[15:02] {Threei} I prefer elegant solutions nemo... anyone can type badly with their elbows or knees... I practice using what is intended for typing - fingers, yet making just as many errors
[15:02] {strider} good.
[15:03] {Threei} that's a real quest for perfection
[15:03] {strider} vad, you know you're supposed to use the ENDS of your fingers, right?
[15:03] {Threei} ??
[15:03] {Threei} oops...
[15:03] {strider} not the knuckles.
[15:03] {Threei} that maybe the reason...
[15:03] {strider} knuckles are for walking.
[15:03] {nemo} you might have your fcx short coming Les
[15:03] {BillyD} SPWRA may be weakening
[15:05] {Threei} US Treasury Sec Geither: Must rebalance world economy away from US demand in efforts to trim unemployment
[15:05] {Threei} - asks Congress to pay down debts to international development banks of $1B
[15:05] {Threei} does it make much sense to you?
[15:06] {nemo} what
[15:06] {Threei} Must rebalance world economy away from US demand in efforts to trim unemployment
[15:06] {nemo} code for killing the dollar so we can manufacture stuff here
[15:06] {dino} it means nothing. don't overthink it
[15:07] {cosmo} where's here
[15:07] {cosmo} ?
[15:07] {nemo} yes, I was being patronizing...they say stuff just to say stuff
[15:07] {nemo} Dino and Mags are in NE pennsylvania
[15:08] {dino} poli-tics = many bloodsuckers
[15:08] {Threei} lol
[15:08] {dino} nemo stalking me
[15:08] {magoo} we prefer to call it "pennsyl-tuckey"
[15:08] {BillyD} northern hillbillies
[15:09] {nemo} ahh...family trees have no branches
[15:09] {cosmo} wait till spring
[15:09] {strider} I resemble these remarks.
[15:09] {nemo} why cosmo?
[15:09] {cosmo} life ... will find a way
[15:10] {nemo} that's plagiarism
[15:10] {cosmo} past life
[15:10] {Threei} ok guys, did eschewing/embracing stugg get old yet?
[15:10] {dino} stugg?
[15:10] {nemo} patterns I see are matching market moves
[15:12] {Les} I dunno, we have expression in Switzerland: better to be happy di&%head than worried intellectual.
[15:12] {dino} if you think mezcal is good try cabo wabo
[15:13] {cosmo} the 'worried' have better memories
[15:14] {dino} \markets saying "giddy-up"
[15:14] {Les} sometimes ignorance could be bliss, or so I imagine...
[15:14] {Les} $ taken a little dive
[15:16] {Threei} interestingly enough, most of our plays are on the short side today
[15:16] {Threei} view it as practicing... one day, maybe even this year, this rally is going to run out of steam
[15:17] {dino} uup been holding steady for 2 hours
[15:17] {dino} iid hl l .12
[15:17] {Threei} which in itself is not small feat, the way dollar goes recenlty
[15:18] {dino} you worry too much
[15:18] {Threei} of course I do, frikin loonie takes money right out of my pocket
[15:18] {dino} good, you admit the real problem
[15:19] {Threei} when did I deny it
[15:19] {dino} now buy some u.s. real estate
[15:20] {Threei} I'll wait till they start selling whole islands
[15:20] {dino} lol
[15:20] {Threei} Kawaii will do
[15:20] {BillyD} the US Island is for sale....buy bonds
[15:20] {dino} i have some nice swamp land for you
[15:20] {magoo} wheres that? near haw
[15:21] {strider} China already has majority interest, Billy.
[15:21] {BillyD} Vad, could have Chines partners
[15:22] {cosmo} climate change will turn the US southwest into lush green savanas ....buy now
[15:22] {dino} zstn
[15:22] {strider} sure would be nice to be able to scroll the t&s
[15:23] {dino} you mean a
[15:23] {dino} cosmo, except that average temps have been dropping last 10 years
[15:24] {patience} i'm a nonbeliever in global warming....what a lot of hooey
[15:24] {strider} Ok. I've got one ........RLOG
[15:24] {dino} same here
[15:24] {cosmo} they keep picking colder places to monitor
[15:25] {cosmo} sneeky
[15:25] {cosmo} ... but i agree
[15:26] {cosmo} warmer oceans - colder air
[15:27] {dino} prime example of the poli-tics above
[15:28] {cosmo} i plan to grow corn in death valley
[15:28] {cosmo} things change
[15:29] {dino} ambitious, :)
[15:29] {patience} make sure you get a government grant for this cosmo
[15:29] {cosmo} next life
[15:30] {dino} ahhh
[15:31] {cosmo} we'll be using the Globerro then
[15:32] {dino} prefer tacos
[15:34] {Threei} wow... 12 points NQ range for the day
[15:34] {Threei} and no volume
[15:35] {Threei} it's a miracle we found plays we did
[15:35] {Threei} Market Internals update at 3:30pmET
[15:35] {Threei} - NYSE volume 690M shares, about 25% below its three-month average; decliners lead advancers by 1.4:1.
[15:35] {Threei} - NASDAQ volume 1.58B shares, about 15% below its three-month average; decliners lead advancers by 1.2:1.
[15:35] {Threei} - VIX index -2% to just under 22.50
[15:38] {Threei} go do decliners lead advancers with green indices
[15:38] {Threei} how
[15:38] {Threei} negative breadth?
[15:43] {dino} we call that xactly
[15:43] {dino} when your breath smells xactly like your azz
[15:43] {cosmo} floss might help
[15:44] {Threei} janitor getting angry
[15:45] {nemo} wow...and it's not me causing it
[15:46] {Threei} (US) Senate Majority Leader Reid (D-NV): Senate vote on carbon bill delayed until 2010
[15:46] {Threei} ***Reminder: On 11/16, the NYT reported that President Obama has acknowledged that a comprehensive climate deal was beyond reach this year.
[15:46] {Threei} seriously? there is some piece of crap they do not intend to shove in taxpayers throat immediately?
[15:46] {Threei} that's a progress
[15:47] {dino} indeed
[15:47] {Threei} bet hey, get right to it as soon as 2010 starts
[15:47] {Threei} 'cause month of no taxes raised is a lost month
[15:47] {dino} nope, election year not happening
[15:48] {Threei} I hope you are right but I amnot holding my breath
[15:48] {Threei} okay guys, got a birthday lunch to attend
[15:48] {dino} me too
[15:48] {Threei} no trades for today anyway anymore
[15:48] {Threei} thank you all
[15:48] {cosmo} the problem used to be carbon monoxide....now its carbon dioxide....sheesh
[15:48] {dino} take care 3i
[15:48] {magoo} ty
[15:48] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
