Thursday, December 17, 2009

Dec 17 2009

Very nice day with almost total frog eradication. I'd call it Midas day.

Session Time: Thu Dec 17 00:00:00 2009

[08:18] {Les} GLD prsented nice short but jumped straight over my offer.
[08:18] {Les} GM all :)
[08:18] {nemo} what's Les short for?
[08:18] {Les} Lesbian
[08:18] {Les} back in high school
[08:18] {Les} nowaday's its Leslie
[08:19] {nemo} as in Nielsen
[08:19] {Les} I exist as an individual being Nemo
[08:19] {Les} as in Leslie Robinson
[08:20] {nemo} {Les} I exist as an individual being you understand what an existential nightmare that is?
[08:20] {nemo} Hi Raven
[08:20] {Les} crap GLD just back tested my trigger price and I wasn't watching
[08:20] {Les} and look at GLD goooooooo
[08:21] {Threei} (US) Preview: Initial Jobless Claims and Continuing Claims due out at 8:30amET
[08:21] {Threei} - Expectations for initial claims are 465K v prior release of 474K (range seen from 450K to 475K)
[08:21] {Threei} - Continuing claims seen at 5.170M v prior 5.157M (range seen from 5.000M to 5.300M)
[08:22] {Threei} Les, what was your short trigger for GLD?
[08:22] {Les} the US is still shedding 400+ thousand a month? incredible.
[08:22] {Les} .60 with .70 stop
[08:23] {Threei} hey
[08:23] {Threei} good one
[08:24] {Les} price and volume baby, price and volume. I like this game
[08:24] {Threei} well, and chart configurations
[08:25] {Threei} this is clean nice setup
[08:25] {Les} doesn't the price and volume create the chart setup?
[08:25] {Threei} sure
[08:25] {nemo} look at amzn and rimm
[08:25] {Threei} they create everything
[08:26] {Les} I was going to say it all comes down to price and volume, but realise that is not true
[08:26] {Threei} it's just that these formations on the chart is easiest way to visualixe
[08:26] {Threei} and see the setup forming
[08:26] {Threei} also there is a pace
[08:26] {Les} price and volume must move in such an arrangement so as to create viable setup
[08:26] {Les} and pace as well
[08:26] {Threei} with is a function of volume in time
[08:27] {Les} volume in time?
[08:27] {Threei} 1K shares in 1 second and 1K shares in one minute is very different pace
[08:28] {Les} ah ok
[08:30] {Threei} *(US) INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 480K V 465KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 5.186M V 5.170ME
[08:31] {Threei} at this rate, how long before no one is working?
[08:32] {strider} and you'll have 5 million daytraders in the room.
[08:32] {Les} lol
[08:32] {Threei} yeah but
[08:32] {Les} that's what I call competitive workplace environment
[08:33] {strider} read FDX vad?
[08:34] {Threei} no read
[08:34] {strider} k
[08:34] {Threei} not enough base for reading anything yet on it
[08:34] {Les} .25 b/d on GLD might be in the works. larger stop this time
[08:35] {Threei} C is chewing through taxpayer's money with ferocity deserving better use
[08:36] {nemo} you mean, taxpayer toilet paper
[08:36] {Les} destructive capitalism
[08:36] {Threei} capitalism?
[08:37] {Threei} where do you see capitalism in that
[08:37] {Threei} if it were capitalism, C would have been bankrupt long ago
[08:37] {nemo} Les, capitalism in the US stopped with the institution of the FED and the income tax in 1913
[08:38] {Les} was playing with the popular description of capitalism
[08:38] {Les} capitalism makes things and breaks things down
[08:38] {Les} destructive capitalism is supposed to be a good tenet of the system
[08:38] {Les} but this "destructive capitalism" is exactly that - destructive
[08:39] {Threei} this whole mess, against popular opinion, is totally creatiion of deviation from capitalism
[08:40] {Threei} watch your GLD,
[08:40] {Les} happily for the oligarchs not too many people understand what capitalism is hey?
[08:40] {Threei} it may give you tighter stop
[08:40] {Threei} no, not many
[08:40] {Threei} too many really think it is a capitalism failure
[08:40] {Threei} just look at Moore
[08:41] {Threei} but then again... look how many think if developed country transfer all their wealth and industrial base to the third world countries, climate becomes better
[08:42] {Les} really?
[08:42] {Les} haven't heard that one
[08:42] {Threei} isn't it what is happening in Copenhagen?
[08:42] {Threei} "climate justice"?
[08:42] {Les} oh right. haven't been watching it
[08:42] {Threei} do if you want to be shell shocked by
[08:43] {Threei} umm
[08:43] {Threei} well, pretty much by everything
[08:43] {Threei} lol
[08:43] {Les} saw it covered on news when G8 in Geneva. Looting, rioting blah blah blah
[08:44] {Threei} wow GLD
[08:44] {Threei} typical example of when you don't want to enter on your trigger
[08:44] {Threei} tell me why?
[08:44] {Les} jumps straight over trigger
[08:46] {Les} sorry, didn't see your question
[08:47] {Les} doesn't consolidate prior to setup trigger. increased volatility. I guess directional movement is less predictable
[08:47] {Threei} plus sharp move into trigger
[08:48] {Threei} and sharp moves often produce snapback
[08:48] {Threei} so triiger becomes a trap
[08:48] {Les} ok
[08:54] {Threei} returned into trigger zone on drying up volume
[08:54] {Threei} good chance of drop from here
[08:54] {Threei} it's premarket, these things are less pronounced
[08:54] {Threei} but good for observation... as a, umm, teachable moment
[08:58] {ese} morning
[08:58] {Threei} ese :)
[08:58] {Les} hey ese
[09:00] {nemo} Your Dudeness
[09:01] {ese} hey les
[09:01] {ese} dude
[09:02] {ese} sorry was off getting a coffee
[09:02] {ese} and a hypodermic needle to inject it in with
[09:03] {nemo} why don't you just use a butterfly catheter, only have to change it twice a week, "les" holes in your arm
[09:03] {Les} I've already withdrawn from daily high and am now coming down with red wine...
[09:03] {Les} belt up nemo
[09:04] {strider} good morning all
[09:04] {strider} watching FDX, HOG
[09:04] {nemo} frickin' optimist
[09:04] {Threei} strider :)
[09:05] {strider} Sir:)
[09:05] {ese} st
[09:05] {strider} ese:)
[09:10] {magoo} morn
[09:10] {ese} nemo what were the 2 dollar symbols you gave me a few weeks back UUP? UUD? lost those 2 with computor change over
[09:10] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:10] {ese} mags
[09:10] {magoo} man, FSLR popped afterhrs to 145
[09:10] {magoo} gave all back
[09:11] {dino} gm all
[09:11] {ese} i've tried to trade that stock mags......nightmare
[09:11] {Threei} yesterday's Frank - Paul fight was disappointing - they agreed with each other on almost everything
[09:11] {strider} dino:)
[09:11] {Threei} excpet CRA
[09:11] {Threei} dino :)
[09:11] {ese} dino
[09:15] {magoo} i actually got lucky, shorted 143 covered 140 somewhere
[09:15] {magoo} when i closed up it was 141.40
[09:15] {ese} nice......hard stock to trade.....good on ya
[09:16] {magoo} best to play extremes on it
[09:16] {fernp} Good morning everybody
[09:16] {magoo} but ive been struggling with this mkt of late
[09:16] {magoo} no follow thru
[09:16] {Threei} fern }:)
[09:16] {larisa} gm :)
[09:16] {magoo} dimes or death it seems
[09:17] {Threei} larisa :)
[09:17] {ese} laris
[09:17] {strider} Vad, now a read on FDX?:)
[09:18] {Threei} chart wise .40 break for short
[09:18] {Threei} but you see how thin it is?
[09:18] {strider} yeah
[09:18] {Threei} its move within its natural volatility can exceed its range width
[09:23] {dino} fdx, high 85s imo
[09:23] {magoo} your buddy farley thinks today is a climax day vad, a "oops there it was" day...and in breakout RALLY terms
[09:23] {dino} hog downgrade target 23, gs
[09:24] {nemo} rimm sitting at support
[09:24] {dino} gap around 84.60
[09:25] {Threei} mags, as in break and up from here?
[09:25] {dino} up
[09:25] {larisa} Alan thinks up because consolidating without selling for so long?
[09:27] {Threei} strider
[09:28] {Threei} see how untradable it is?
[09:28] {dino} dino, has no idea, will p;ay whats given to him
[09:28] {strider} yeah
[09:28] {Threei} OK guys
[09:28] {Threei} let's be a bit more mellow
[09:28] {Threei} holiday trading
[09:29] {Threei} no good comes out of pushing
[09:29] {Les} has begun today?
[09:29] {Threei} better sit, patiently wait for something easy to pass by
[09:30] {lasertrev} gm
[09:30] {Threei} trev :)
[09:30] {Threei} NVDA is trying again
[09:31] {Les} volume has returned to GLD upon most recent breakdown
[09:31] {magoo} watch FCX vad
[09:31] {strider} KRA IPO trading
[09:31] {dino} esrx getting some back
[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup: NVDA .10 break
[09:32] {magoo} in
[09:33] {ese} ndsn.....dino
[09:33] {fernp} stop under .17 , no?
[09:33] {Threei} yes
[09:33] {ese} 3.5 gap dn
[09:34] {dino} misses
[09:34] {Threei} .90 makes sense if you want to stay in for a longer move but I just can't bring myself to keep such wide stop
[09:34] {dino} gap around 50.20
[09:34] {Threei} not these pre-holiday days
[09:35] {magoo} WOW RIMM vad
[09:35] {Threei} wow is right
[09:35] {dino} ndsn, miss not too bad, guidance ok, imo
[09:35] {Threei} ok NVDA
[09:35] {Threei} now or never
[09:36] {Threei} aaalmost there
[09:36] {nemo} out 1:1
[09:36] {Threei} half out
[09:36] {fernp} ty
[09:36] {Threei} still want something more out of it
[09:36] {magoo} ,34 im thinking
[09:37] {Threei} thinking?... what a novel concept... I gotta try it some day
[09:37] {nemo} don't hurt yourself
[09:37] {Threei} I promise to be careful
[09:37] {ese} just lookin at that dino thinkin the same thing
[09:37] {Threei} 2 hours of drinking per 1 minute of thinking
[09:37] {Threei} US) Senator Dodd: Reiterates he will vote in favor of re-nomination of Fed Chairman Bernanke
[09:37] {dino} esrx ballistic
[09:37] {ese} might try L sm at .50
[09:38] {Threei} offering 1/4 more NVDA just above .30
[09:39] {Threei} good girl
[09:39] {Threei} out 1/4 more .31
[09:39] {ese} bstop ndsn 54.50 sm
[09:40] {magoo} out NICE vad
[09:40] {magoo} .31
[09:40] {Threei} wtg
[09:41] {magoo} AONE vad
[09:41] {ese} esrx....whoever got in at 82.60.....good on em
[09:41] {Threei} AONE CEO: The JV with SAIC is a significant milestone - CNBC (20.00, +1.68, 9.17%)
[09:42] {Threei} 4:01:20 AM
[09:42] {Threei} A123Systems Forms JV with SAIC Motor to tap growing Chinese market for hybrid electric & pure electric vehicles
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[09:42] {Threei} out NVDA in full
[09:42] {Threei} .44
[09:43] {Threei} +.32
[09:43] {Threei} surprizingly easy trade
[09:43] {Threei} (US) Senator Shelby: Opposes second term for Fed Chairman Bernanke
[09:43] {Les} FCX
[09:46] {ese} L ndsn .45
[09:46] {ese} wow great fill
[09:47] {nemo} buy the whole float?
[09:48] {dino} gef, bunch of directors added shares 12-15, 54
[09:48] {ese} don't usually get filled lower than bstop
[09:48] {dino} kss coming into 2 month support
[09:48] {ese} ndsn stop to break even
[09:48] {ese} .45
[09:49] {dino} pot blood
[09:49] {dino} fdx hits high 85s
[09:50] {Les} fcx .90 b/d with .05 stop?
[09:50] {Threei} AONE...
[09:50] {Threei} trying to turn into momo
[09:50] {magoo} in
[09:51] {Threei} looks good les
[09:51] {Les} ty AONE took .10
[09:51] {magoo} 22
[09:51] {dino} stec es
[09:52] {ese} will check that out
[09:52] {nemo} aone looking weak
[09:53] {ese} that was bound to happen
[09:53] {Threei} FCX 1:1
[09:53] {Les} ty out
[09:53] {Threei} gj
[09:53] {Les} this is better than holiday shopping...
[09:53] {Threei} things become much clearer eh Les
[09:54] {ese} .15 spread on this ndsn.....makes it hard to sell it
[09:54] {dino} gj
[09:54] {dino} where you in?
[09:55] {ese} i'm thinkin it should make it above 55
[09:55] {ese} .45
[09:55] {dino} gj, i wanted re-test area, not in
[09:55] {dino} rino, maybe today gap fill
[09:56] {dino} lod's
[09:56] {nemo} fcx foring tight range
[09:56] {dino} whoosh down coming, gut says
[09:56] {ese} out ndsn .86 +.41
[09:57] {dino} wtg
[09:57] {dino} dji, -120 area
[09:57] {ese} ya look at it
[09:58] {Threei} dino's gut was right
[09:58] {dino} wow
[09:58] {dino} xmas cookies 3i, great insight
[09:58] {nemo} 1/2 out fcx .45 shrot from .70
[09:58] {Threei} got it, ty for the tip
[09:59] {dino} rino gap filled
[09:59] {Threei} great job nemo
[09:59] {Threei} wow... who would have thought I'd ever say that
[09:59] {ese} back in 10
[09:59] {dino} wtfg nemo
[09:59] {Threei} lol dino
[10:00] {Threei} I realize it's a fat finger case but what an appropriate insertion of f
[10:00] {dino} :)
[10:00] {Threei} *(US) NOV LEADING INDICATORS: 0.9% V 0.7%E
[10:00] {Threei} DEC PHILADELPHIA FED INDEX: 20.4 V 16E
[10:00] {fernp} FITB, ese
[10:01] {Threei} Treasury's Allison: Goal of TARP stakes was not to make money, govt wants to exit TARP as soon as possible
[10:01] {Threei} (US) Moody's changes outlook on US homebuilding industry to Stable from Negative
[10:01] {Threei} - suggesting that the bottom has been reached for the sector.
[10:01] {Threei} - Housing starts, new home sales and existing home sales are all showing positive trends
[10:01] {Threei} - home affordability is at its strongest in many years.
[10:01] {Threei} - Joseph Snider, Moody's Vice President - Senior Credit Officer, stated that the U.S. government's support for the sector remains a critical source of strength. A premature removal of government backing, Snider said, would put the industry's outlook at considerable risk of returning to negative
[10:04] {nemo} sorry too fast scalp for 30 on rimm
[10:05] {larisa} short?
[10:05] {nemo} yes
[10:06] {larisa} washed 63 stops powerfully
[10:06] {nemo} break of .40
[10:06] {Les} FCX
[10:08] {nemo} look to short at .44
[10:08] {nemo} fcx
[10:08] {nemo} cat break of .50 short
[10:08] {Les} already in. starting to think of it as daytrade
[10:10] {strider} long PAYX .09 stop .00
[10:11] {dino} gef sm l .25
[10:11] {dino} thin
[10:11] {Threei} wow... look at NVDA exit
[10:11] {Threei} 4 cents under day high
06[10:11] * nemo slaps Threei around a bit with a large piece of his dislocated right arm
[10:12] {Threei} what a wierd case of self-mutilation
[10:13] {nemo} well, you pat yourself on the back so often, it was just hanging by a thread anyway
[10:13] {dino} uthr
[10:14] {Threei} often?
[10:14] {Threei} this is first time today
[10:14] {Threei} which means I had an urge 5 times and resisted it 4
[10:15] {nemo} that's if I believe you
[10:15] {Threei} and btw,
[10:15] {Threei} I even complimented your trading
[10:15] {Threei} which took all my physical and mental strength
[10:16] {Threei} 09:59] {Threei} great job nemo
[10:16] {Threei} [09:59] {Threei} wow... who would have thought I'd ever say that
[10:16] {strider} long gef .24
[10:16] {nemo} missed it
[10:16] {Threei} of course
[10:16] {nemo} in payx, thanks strider
[10:16] {ese} back
[10:17] {strider} I'm offering at .20
[10:17] {fernp} out FITB +.10
[10:17] {Threei} strider... you realize that for all your complaining about fast stocks, you are picking quite thin ones to trade?
[10:17] {magoo} he prefers to be addressed STRIPPER vad
[10:17] {strider} in some cases, yes.
[10:17] {Threei} not that there is anything inherently wrong with that
[10:18] {Threei} just want to make sure you do it consciously
[10:18] {strider} out PAYX +.11
[10:18] {fernp} gj
[10:18] {Threei} mags, he can apply for nick change if so...
[10:18] {strider} yes....trying to find comfortable bottom entries.
[10:19] {dino} as a stripper should
[10:19] {Threei} rofl
[10:19] {dino} lol
[10:20] {nemo} see that bloc sell at .23 on payx 1000
[10:21] {magoo} u are comfortable with your bottom stripper?
[10:21] {fernp} BAC on lows
[10:21] {nemo} nice payx stripper
[10:22] {strider} not trading large enough t partial out on these, though.
[10:22] {dino} sm l kss .75
[10:22] {nemo} if payx gets through .37 look out
[10:23] {Les} WMT
[10:26] {ese} i'm gonna join you dino bstop kss .80 sm
[10:26] {nemo} stopped last payx .21
[10:26] {dino} es, your bstop is trigger?
[10:27] {ese} yes
[10:27] {dino} ok, i enter differently, my bstops are used on shorts
[10:28] {ese} it touched .80 i'm long .797
[10:28] {nemo} no tighty whiteys?
[10:28] {ese} decent fills on bstops
[10:29] {nemo} look at nvda now
[10:29] {Threei} beautiful
[10:29] {Threei} cristmas tree formation
[10:29] {dino} i see, never tried it
[10:29] {ese} nemo? what was that dollar tracking stock....or stocks?
[10:30] {dino} learn something every day
[10:30] {nemo} cat might be a short from hear on this pull back, next stop 57.10
[10:30] {Threei} UUP?
[10:30] {strider} bid holds at.30 GEF
[10:30] {strider} now up
[10:30] {dino} uup es
[10:30] {ese} tks....whats the other one.....i think there were 2
[10:30] {dino} 2x's
[10:31] {dino} udn
[10:31] {dino} 2x's short
[10:31] {strider} offer GEF .47
[10:31] {ese} tks
[10:31] {dino} i refer to the 2x and 3x as crack
[10:33] {nemo} that was interesting buying in payx
[10:35] {ese} stopped kss.65 -.15
[10:36] {Threei} AIG
[10:37] {Threei} 20 cents range between .40 and .60
[10:37] {strider} out GEF .38
[10:37] {strider} +.14
[10:37] {Threei} half lot play on range break looks plausible
[10:37] {Threei} wtg strider
[10:37] {Threei} finding your game step by step, eh
[10:38] {dino} gj strider, i'm still in, want .90s
[10:38] {strider} flying under the radar...not getting best yield..
[10:38] {Threei} well, does this week feel different from last one?
[10:38] {strider} yeah dino, my big problem right now is premature evacuation.
[10:39] {Threei} nemo, not a word
[10:39] {dino} trail hard stops
[10:39] {strider} absolutely, vad.........
[10:39] {Threei} great
[10:39] {strider} good idea, dino. I'll work on that.
[10:39] {dino} but is something catching your eye "(edge)?
[10:39] {Threei} means nexzt step is made
[10:39] {nemo} what?
[10:40] {Threei} means no mental block anymore that keeps you locked in repeating same thing that doesn't work
[10:40] {strider} things that weren't working last week are working better now.
[10:40] {larisa} lol
[10:40] {Threei} that's because it's different things
[10:40] {strider} I get in a funk if I start out with a loser.
[10:40] {dino} ahhh lari
[10:40] {strider} Haven't done that this week.
[10:40] {nemo} fcx short .30 break
[10:41] {Threei} les nailed a few good setups too
[10:41] {strider} yep.
[10:41] {strider} congrats Les
[10:41] {Threei} unthnkbale for him himself just a few short weeks ago {G}
[10:41] {Threei} and nemo, sheesh... I actually complimented his trading today... I am still shell shocked
[10:42] {dino} nemo is in the zone
[10:42] {nemo} glad I missed it....would have fallen off the chair
[10:42] {strider} need to wash your mouth out with soap, vad.
[10:42] {Threei} no kidding
[10:42] {magoo} better than a poke in the ass, oops, er um, EYE
[10:42] {nemo} vodka is just as good a disinfectant
[10:43] {nemo} JANITOR!
[10:43] {Threei} if it goes this way, during my week in Bahamas you'll find out you don't need me
[10:43] {strider} that's what I was thinking.
[10:43] {Threei} and upon return I find my room access withdrawn
[10:44] {dino} he's on to us
[10:44] {nemo} when you trade down there, you logging into the room?
[10:44] {strider} I'm still waiting for _notvad to show up.
[10:44] {dino} i smell a rat
[10:44] {Threei} lol
[10:44] {nemo} that's magoo next door dino
[10:45] {strider} nemo, what kind of humongous stop you put on FCX ?
[10:45] {nemo} haven't taken it yet but looks like .45
[10:46] {dino} ag's beat up, mon, mos, pot, etc
[10:47] {dino} rino sm l .83
[10:47] {dino} scanners solid green, fwiw
[10:50] {ilana} things seem still random today?
[10:50] {magoo} RIMM bounce
[10:51] {ese} nahhhhhhhhh ....for a brief moment there i was thinking about 5k of kry.........could it bee that i'm going temporarily insane
[10:51] {dino} indeed
[10:51] {magoo} mkts bouncing
[10:51] {Threei} opening was good ilana
[10:52] {Threei} Long Setup: WFC 26 break
[10:52] {dino} hmmm, i had the exact reverse impression ilana
[10:52] {Threei} if stays above .90
[10:52] {nemo} cat. .43 break if above .35
[10:54] {Threei} nemo, notice big offer there
[10:54] {nemo} volume not confirming yet
[10:54] {nemo} yep
[10:54] {Threei} amazing how often they coinside with chart resistance
[10:54] {nemo} frickin metaphuysical
[10:56] {Threei} WFC 1:1
[10:56] {fernp} ty
[10:57] {Threei} CAT 1:1
[10:57] {nemo} yep
[10:57] {Threei} frogs eradication
[10:59] {nemo} rimm interesting sitting on 200 period ma
[11:01] {nemo} took the scalp just above 1:1 lunchtime comes early
[11:02] {ilana} wake up, AIG
[11:02] {ese} it's been a while since we've had a really cool word......"metaphuysical".....i like it
[11:02] {nemo} ty
[11:03] {ese} your welcome
[11:04] {strider} PAYX
[11:04] {nemo} by the way, I took the scalp because cat hit a pivot resistance
[11:06] {strider} l PAYX .04, stop below 31.00
[11:10] {strider} spy heading south
[11:16] {strider} stop to b/e PAYX
[11:17] {Threei} ilana, you in AIG short?
[11:17] {ilana} no, why
[11:17] {ilana} in HIG .76
[11:18] {Threei} 11:02] {ilana} wake up, AIG
[11:18] {Threei} thought it meant you were in
[11:18] {ilana} i was
[11:18] {Threei} so wanted to provide some running comment
[11:18] {ilana} please, on HIG too
[11:19] {Threei} lol, I don't have any on HIG
[11:19] {ilana} out btw, don't like anymore
[11:20] {Threei} les fell asleep I guess
[11:20] {fernp} MS lod
[11:21] {ilana} what was the comment on AIG, Vad?
[11:22] {Threei} to trail stop to above .50
[11:22] {ilana} ok
[11:22] {nemo} sneaky volume increases in rimm over last 10 minutes
[11:23] {strider} stop oujt +.02 PAYX
[11:23] {ilana} to which direction, RIMM
[11:24] {nemo} which one of us dumbasses forgot to look at deck?
[11:24] {nemo} not sure ilan
[11:24] {nemo} ilana
[11:24] {nemo} having said that, a .20 spread- ALL DINO!
[11:24] {larisa} i did not, no volume though DECK
[11:25] {larisa} plus what you said
[11:26] {patience} .
[11:27] {ese} i knew you wern't away.......
[11:29] {patience} :)
[11:29] {strider} PAYX new lod
[11:29] {fernp} MS short .54 stop above .60
[11:29] {patience} i am waiting for a turn up in hgu...usually turns around 10:30 our time
[11:30] {strider} hgu?
[11:31] {strider} what is hgu
[11:31] {strider} ?
[11:33] {nemo} canadian gold stock or etf
[11:33] {Threei} Toronto exchange strider
[11:33] {strider} ah, that explains it.
[11:33] {strider} thx
[11:37] {Threei} (US) Senate Banking Committee votes to nominate Fed Chairman Bernake, full Senate vote on Bernanke soon
[11:37] {Threei} - Final vote: 16-7
[11:37] {fernp} 1:1 MS
[11:41] {strider} good trade, fern.
[11:42] {fernp} BYD lod interesting if breaks .50
[11:42] {fernp} ty strider
[11:43] {strider} at open, lod=.39
[11:44] {strider} but may not matter.
[11:44] {fernp} yeah, ignoring those few prints
[11:44] {dino} out gef .60, +.35
[11:45] {fernp} gj dino (as always)
[11:45] {dino} ty
[11:46] {dino} screwed up rino, had .60 on it
[11:46] {larisa} I think I 'll start my Christmas early. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, guys. Good trading and be safe.
[11:47] {Threei} have a great holiday time larisa, Merry Christmas
[11:47] {fernp} happy holidays larisa
[11:47] {larisa} do not let market fall below 9K :)
[11:47] {strider} merry xmas larisa:)
[11:47] {patience} enjoy larisa
[11:48] {dino} have a wonderful xmas and new year larisa
[11:48] {larisa} patience, you help ilana to watch guys.. they need to learn to behave
[11:49] {patience} that's your job :)
[11:49] {larisa} nah :)
[11:50] {fernp} MU breaking .75
[11:50] {ilana} i lost last hope
[11:51] {dino} esrx quite the ride
[11:53] {Threei} you girls mean we msibehave??
[11:53] {nemo} shorn rimm .29
[11:58] {fernp} TXN also insteresting if breaks .25
[11:59] {magoo} so mch for that retard farleys callu
[12:00] {strider} haha
[12:00] {strider} what has happened now, mags?
[12:00] {patience} day isn't over yet magoo...and its options week
[12:01] {Threei} Senator Dodd: would be difficult to reimpose Glass-Steagall limits on banks as suggested by Senators McCain and Cantwell yesterday
[12:01] {Threei} why??
[12:01] {nemo} cost him votes from CT
[12:01] {Threei} that goes without saying
[12:01] {Threei} I just want to hear any opf them explaining why
[12:01] {fernp} BYD 1:1
[12:01] {Threei} him, Timmy
[12:13] {strider} AONE bear flag
[12:15] {nemo} amzn hit resistance at .73, might be forming a range here
[12:18] {nemo} huh...deck, shouldn't have taken my eye off it perfect short at 96.50
[12:20] {dino} out rino .33, +.50
[12:23] {Les} AWIAV?
[12:23] {nemo} coma
[12:27] {strider} ESRX
[12:28] {dino} i like it stride, trying to figure entry
[12:28] {strider} news vad? none here.
[12:28] {strider} no bad news anyway.
[12:28] {nemo} see if you can get .40,
[12:29] {strider} retracement from morning euphoria
[12:31] {nemo} do my eyes deceive me or is the relative volume on S&P500 over 200%
[12:31] {nemo} if so THAT'S distribution
[12:32] {dino} strider, was -4 yesterday
[12:32] {nemo} volume or point loss?
[12:33] {Threei} nothing on ESRX since 8 a,
[12:33] {Threei} am
[12:33] {ese} i'm outta here or today.....not doing much but watching see ya tomorrow
[12:33] {Threei} take care ese
[12:33] {strider} see ya, ese.
[12:34] {fernp} bye ese
[12:34] {Threei} 8:02:10 AM
[12:34] {Threei} Express Scripts Inc Study finds no association between anti-epileptic drug switches and increased seizure activity
[12:34] {Threei} - Results of a study that examined the association of seizure risk among epilepsy patients after switching between A-rated anti-epileptic drug formulations. The study found no evidence that switching between A-rated anti-epileptic drugs, including brand to generic substitution, was associated with increased emergency room visits or hospitalizations for epilepsy.
[12:34] {ese} cya guys and gals
[12:34] {patience} later ese :)
[12:34] {strider} so, no bad news is good new.
[12:34] {Threei} for canucks
[12:34] {Threei} CA) BoC's Carney: Pledge to keep rates on hold through mid 2010 is "conditional," policy will change if conditions change
[12:34] {Threei} - BoC believes the current rate plan is "most appropriate
[12:35] {Threei} no reaction by loonie
[12:35] {Threei} and actually loonie looks nicely bearish
[12:35] {Threei} thank godness
[12:40] {Threei} since larisa is not here, I'll abuse the analogy one more time and post this:
[12:40] {Threei} As long as you expect certain percentage of frogs to remain frogs rendering your kisses wasted - you don't consider every kiss not resulting in prince/princess appearance an error that can and should be eradicated. Thus you stay true to market reality - it's an odds game with no 100% certainty, thus no need to get stubborn and try to squeeze a princess out of each and every frog, thus stops are taken easily, losses are kept well under control and don't cause emotional disturbance.
[12:42] {Les} that's my problem - trying to continuously squeeze princesses from toads
[12:42] {strider} I don't know about this frog-kissing. I mean, I always heard they turned into princes. Too old to change my ways now.
[12:44] {strider} (NOTE to self: check gender of frog before kissing.)
[12:44] {Threei} I guess I am a reeloader...
[12:45] {Threei} I am waiting for someone else to deal with the frog, and then go for a princess if aforementioned appears
[12:45] {strider} OK. I vote for nemo.
[12:46] {strider} FDX selloff
[12:46] {fernp} TXN 1:1
[12:46] {Threei} fern knows no frogs today
[12:46] {fernp} :-)
[12:46] {strider} I know. Every rock he turns over has a princess under it.
[12:48] {strider} Lots of roses in Spanish Harlem.
[12:48] {fernp} lol
[12:49] {strider} care to read FDX one more time, vad?
[12:49] {Threei} not really
[12:49] {Threei} quick 50 cents drop
[12:49] {Threei} needs to do something here to form readable formation
[12:49] {ilana} AIG .25 break?
[12:50] {Threei} I hate the way it trades today
[12:50] {Threei} these sharp sudden moves both ways
[12:50] {ilana} what are the big offers mean?
[12:50] {Threei} usually a good indication of spike if broken
[12:51] {fernp} one mistake today: MU i didn't know it moves so slow.
[12:51] {fernp} It is doing nothing. I think I'm gonna close the trade here. with +.01
[12:51] {Threei} easy to see actually fern
[12:51] {Threei} look at its daily ranges
[12:52] {Threei} and how thick it is
[12:52] {fernp} y, true
[12:52] {Threei} rare days when it makes 50 cents range stand out like superstars
[12:53] {fernp} yeah. out MU .... I hate MU lol
[12:54] {Les} double bottom WMT?
[12:55] {Threei} not the kind I can trade
[12:55] {Les} ok
[12:55] {Threei} confirmation is 53 break, lol
[12:55] {Threei} Ilana, see what I mean about AIG?
[12:56] {ilana} you said spike
[12:56] {Threei} what the deuce was that... and during market upward move
[12:56] {ilana} spike down?
[12:56] {Threei} [12:50] {Threei} I hate the way it trades today
[12:56] {Threei} [12:50] {Threei} these sharp sudden moves both ways
[12:56] {Threei} this is what I refer to
[12:56] {ilana} ok
[12:56] {Threei} normally those breaks of big offers lead to spike up
[12:57] {patience} back in hgu
[12:57] {Threei} but the way this thing trades today, I just have no grip on it
[12:57] {ilana} i see
[12:58] {strider} GLD bear flag, best seen on 5min.
[12:59] {patience} don't say that, mortgage payment is tomorrow strider
[12:59] {strider} obviously, I was mistaken.
[13:00] {Threei} look at 1 min strider
[13:00] {Threei} double bottom, uptrend ever since, ascending triangle
[13:00] {Threei} break of triangle's flat top at .50
[13:00] {strider} yep. see that, too.
[13:01] {strider} not an impressive climb from the bottom , though.
[13:01] {Threei} well, it's in general downtrend
[13:01] {Threei} look at daily
[13:01] {strider} yeah
[13:02] {dino} fdx gap filled from mid nov.
[13:02] {Threei} goldbugs always hate my guts... but, gold is so dead
[13:02] {patience} on the way down,it still has relief jumps...i like those because they are steady trades for scalps
[13:02] {Threei} of course...
[13:02] {strider} But breeak of 5min. trend would be at about break of 1 min. support at 10:50. No?
[13:03] {Threei} and before dying eventually, will probably make one last rally
[13:03] {Threei} luring in believers
[13:03] {strider} about .30
[13:03] {Threei} then USD will rally like there is no tomorrow, and gold bubble will burst
[13:04] {patience} andwhen usd has momo up, iwill play it
[13:05] {Threei} oil story will repeat itself to a T... but of course "this time will be different"
[13:05] {dino} fwiw watching; ndsn, fdx, rino, gef, esrx, ebix
[13:06] {dino} i see we hit the -125 gut saw
[13:11] {dino} pbm tax considered in senate, w/heathplan proposal
[13:11] {dino} that explains esrx
[13:13] {dino} gef lod
[13:14] {Les} WDC?
[13:15] {dino} raised to outperform
[13:15] {Threei} US) Fed's Fisher: Has not seen any inflation data that "ruffles my hawkish feathers," sees Q4 GDP +3-4%
[13:15] {Threei} - Believes inflation remains mild
[13:20] {strider} long FDX .69
[13:23] {strider} stopped .58
[13:24] {dino} imo strider, watch the dji for the trigger on fdx
[13:25] {strider} k. thx.
[13:25] {strider} was trying to buy low side of consolidation.
[13:26] {dino} on these big(?) down days, i sit, wait for market to tell me
[13:26] {ilana} tell us what it says
[13:27] {Threei} he can't
[13:27] {strider} I would probably have been ok with wider stop. but not willing to take it.
[13:27] {dino} right now it says "sit"
[13:27] {Threei} it''s pure swearing, no single decent word
[13:27] {dino} break of 10345, possibly up
[13:28] {dino} other way is to hit bottoms
[13:28] {dino} but that is just me
[13:31] {dino} i see a lot of support levels holding well
[13:32] {dino} fdx getting interesting
[13:34] {nemo} pru could be interesting break of .08
[13:34] {dino} been watching met off it
[13:35] {dino} seeing gef, rino, kss holding lows well
[13:35] {nemo} frickin rim
[13:35] {nemo} rimm
[13:39] {strider} dcc trev
[13:40] {dino} osk
[13:40] {Threei} no news here
[13:40] {dino} gao confirms oask wins
[13:41] {Threei} OSK GAO Decision Affirms Major Army Conclusions Supporting Oshkosh FMTV Award; Denies Challenges to $440 Million Dollars in Savings and Nearly All Other Protestor Complaints
[13:44] {dino} way i read it, still 60 days to accept or decline gao decision
[13:44] {dino} so, politics comes into play
[13:46] {fernp} TXN hit my 1:1 and bounced from there all the way back. I guess I got lucky :-)
[13:46] {dino} gj
[13:46] {fernp} ty
[13:48] {nemo} short cat .29
[13:48] {nemo} stop .37
[13:55] {nemo} stopped
[14:00] {dino} gef hl l .30
[14:01] {lasertrev} Strider got it
[14:05] {dino} esrx one crazy ride
[14:11] {nemo} whaddya' think dino .25 on esrx?
[14:11] {Threei} who thinks BAC .10 break deserves a short?
[14:12] {nemo} too obvious
[14:12] {dino} i don't like it up here
[14:12] {nemo} oh, I thought you were in it
[14:13] {dino} no, walked away and she got legs
[14:13] {nemo} zztop
[14:13] {dino} lol
[14:13] {nemo} great video
[14:16] {fernp} BAC on lows and WFC on highs
[14:19] {fernp} shorting BAC here
[14:20] {strider} trev, dcc
[14:21] {Les}
[14:21] {Les} Russian's preparing for war Vad. Stocking up on essential items
[14:22] {fernp} lol
[14:22] {patience} good beer
[14:23] {Threei} no leader ever survived over there attempt to cut alcohol consumption
[14:23] {Threei} nor succeeded in the slightest in doing so
[14:26] {Threei} General Motors Corp Treasury Official: Expects GM to make a "reasonable effort" to have an IPO by mid 2010
[14:26] {Threei} - Does not know whether July 2010 would be an appropriate time for an IPO or not.
[14:26] {Threei} ***Reminder: On 12/15 GM Chairman Whitacre said he plns to repay govt funds by the end of June (GM's current TARP funds approx $20.64B)
[14:30] {Threei} BAC 1:1
[14:30] {fernp} 1:1 BAC
[14:30] {fernp} i need days like this oftener
[14:30] {Threei} rather than seldomer?
[14:31] {dino} wtg fern
[14:31] {fernp} "oftener" word is correct?
[14:31] {nemo} more often
[14:32] {fernp} i knew
[14:32] {fernp} ty dino
[14:33] {Threei} I like oftener
[14:33] {Threei} I also like bester, worser
[14:33] {Threei} badder
[14:33] {Threei} overboughter and oversolder
[14:34] {Threei} don't listen to them fern
[14:36] {Les} you spanish fern?
[14:36] {nemo} funny spanish fern
[14:36] {fernp} no problem Vad. they speak english better than me
[14:36] {fernp} yes, spanish
[14:36] {nemo} isn't there a vegitation "spanish fern"
[14:37] {Les} ok, can't be too sure. From what I hear a lot of southern Spain is now English...
[14:38] {Les} NVDA looking for green
[14:41] {fernp} PETM hod and daily interesting
[14:46] {Threei} BAC 1:2
[14:46] {Threei} and accelerating
[14:47] {fernp} yeah, losing 15, BAC looks very bearish
[14:48] {fernp} on daily i mean
[14:55] {Threei} F North American President: reiterates 12.5M SAAR sales forecast - CNBC
[14:55] {Threei} - have seen some imporvement at the retail level
[14:56] {Les} SNDK
[14:58] {magoo} CECO vad news
[15:02] {Threei} CECO Weakness attributed to chatter that the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) has sent a letter to the Dept of Education proposing stripping accredation authority of the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) (26.00, -2.35, -8.29%) (related COCO ESI DV STRA )
[15:04] {Les} damn it mags, did you do that to CECO?
[15:05] {Les} I wasn't fast enough by half
[15:11] {nemo} gotta' go cu2morow
[15:12] {Threei} take care nemo
[15:12] {Les} no you won't
[15:12] {nemo} small blessing
[15:12] {Les} actually no it's not saturday tomorrow, so yes you will
[15:14] {Threei} BAC unhinged
[15:17] {dino} rino sm l .95
[15:21] {Threei} CECO Higher Learning Commission (HLC): Aware of report out of the DoE's Office of the Inspector General, preparing a response shortly (25.05, -3.30, -11.64%)
[15:22] {Threei} solunds like admissions that report is true
[15:22] {Threei} you don't need to "prepare a response" if it's not, takes all of 5 seconds to say there is nothing going on
[15:24] {Threei} the reference link for the report is here:
[15:25] {Threei} yup
[15:25] {Threei} look how it drops when the link appeared in news update
[15:25] {dino} esi, apol too
[15:26] {Threei} and COCO
[15:28] {Threei} old joke about trajectory of a missile being curved, meaning that you can shoot from around the corner if you put a gun on its side is not a joke anymore
[15:28] {Threei} see reports about XM-25?
[15:28] {Les} hmm?
[15:28] {Threei} new gun in testing
[15:29] {Threei} extremely sophisticated
[15:29] {Les} Israeli's have had shotgun with camera that shoots round corners for a while
[15:30] {Les}
[15:30] {Les} ok its that weapon
[15:32] {Les} looking for bounce in CECO but impossible to tell
[15:33] {dino} out gef .52, +.22
[15:33] {Threei}
[15:35] {Les} interesting. cover from fire is no longer the case with such a weapon.
[15:35] {Threei} right
[15:45] {Threei} what a murder, CECO
[15:45] {fernp} woow
[15:45] {Les} wish I knew how to play it
[15:45] {Threei} as impressive as it looks on intraday, just have a look at daily for a gasp
[15:46] {Les} cool
[15:47] {fernp} a lot of news CECO today
[15:48] {Les} allright bed is looking better than this market. night all.
[15:48] {fernp} DELL strong
[15:50] {dino} gn les
[15:50] {fernp} go to the bank :-) Good evening everybody. see you tomorrow
[15:52] {Threei} take care les, fern
[15:54] {Threei} interesting day
[15:54] {Threei} quite mellow but very nicely profitable
[15:54] {Threei} thank you all, have a nice evening
[15:54] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[15:54] {dino} gj fern, cya
[15:55] {patience} see you vad, one trade for me today....some days you just sit and wait
[15:55] {Threei} as long as it's winning trade...
[15:56] {patience} remains to be seen, stop hasn't been hit yet
[15:56] {dino} ndx, s/p gaps filled from 12-09
[15:58] {dino} out rino .99, +.04
[15:59] {dino} thx all ok day
[16:02] {Threei} ORCL Reports Q2 $0.39 v $0.36e, R$5.9B v $5.7Be
[16:06] {Threei} RIMM Reports Q3 $1.10 v $1.04e, R$3.92B v $3.8Be
[16:11] {Threei} mags, got any of them?
[16:11] {Threei} your style moves