Monday, October 31, 2011

Nemo's Findings Multi-time frame levels for week of 10/30

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I decided to wait a day to post the charts so I could get the new month data in.  Anyway, seeing as my prop firm shut down because they didn't want to deal with the new regulations, I had some time on my hands so I reformatted my charts.   Sooooooooooo....if you download the formats and not just the jpgs, you'll notice multiple tabs across the top of the freestockchart formats.  What I've done is broken down each time period and study.  So the leftmost tab will be the montage, palette, combo, cluster...er...nevermind, with all the data so that you can see all the levels together.  The second tab is the weekly only , third -monthly, etc...the last two are the fib retracements I'm currently using followed by the subjective price levels I put in.

This should elucidate completely one of two things, or both: 1) the logic of my methodology or 2) psychological deficiency of significant scale.  Hey!!!! but it's free....don't bother emailing me with complaints, I don't care...

So, here are the links:

spy:      http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=5b2f916c-5a31-4535-83c7-6c86e09eae07
iwm:     http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=7771f006-2432-4df9-b085-52b4a260dfbf





Te morituri salutamos,

Nemo











Oct 31 2011

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Nice day for us, as most gap down days are - 7 trades, 5 wins. Stops were negligibly small, 3 of wins were nicely sized. No complaints about starting the week this way.



Session Time: Mon Oct 31 00:00:00 2011
[09:14] {ese} morning
[09:14] {Threei}  morning ese
[09:15] {ese} was just making up a calculus test for my b blk math class....anybody wanna take the test.....i'll send it on over
[09:15] {Threei}  hmmm
[09:15] {Threei}  if there is anything beyond 2x2, I'll pass, thank you
[09:16] {ese} lol
[09:16] {ese} knowing calc definitely doesn't help you in the market
[09:17] {Threei}  or anywhere else for that matter
[09:17] {ese} indeed
[09:17] {Threei}  except calc class
[09:19] {ese} didn't you have to do it......way back when
[09:19] {Threei}  yes... but I can't calaculate now how long ago it was
[09:19] {dino} gm all
[09:19] {RonS} gm
[09:20] {Threei}  which tells you a lot about how frequently that skill was required :)
[09:20] {Threei}  dino, ron :)
[09:20] {Threei}  so, MF failure was overleveraged invetsment in EU debt, right?
[09:20] {ese} well it's come in handy don't you think........hmmmm number of shiskabob squers?......required to barbecue steak and vegetables......hmmmmmmm
[09:21] {Threei}  lol
[09:21] {Threei}  I can't help but ask - how come the hopelessness of those bionds was so obvious to anyone who gave himself troubles to think, but not to these guys?
[09:22] {Threei}  is it total overriding hubris, "they'll print their way out of everything and we can bet safely on tat"?
[09:23] {Threei}  Since Corzine, 64, arrived at MF Global in March 2010, he increased the firms risk and used its own money to trade, including investments in European sovereign debt that have rattled markets
[09:23] {Threei}  MF Global, which has a market value of $198 million, owns $6.3 billion of Italian, Spanish, Belgian, Portuguese and Irish debt, the company said in an Oct. 25 presentation.
[09:23] {Threei}  good move
[09:24] {RonS} hearing corzine gets $30 mil regardless...where is ows now?
[09:24] {ese} huh..........how did they leverage that?
[09:25] {RonS} w/ the same banks that will be bailed out...
[09:25] {Threei}  as long as no one steps in to bail them out with public money, I have zero problem with all that
[09:25] {ese} me either
[09:25] {Threei}  make bad bet,m fail, go bankrupt
[09:26] {ese} Chicago Mercantile Exchange Holdings Inc MF Global members and clearing associates barred from floor access and trading at CME- CME taking actions to protect risk ahead of MF developments  Have Market Intel? TradeTheNews.com Tip Line -} Click Here
[09:28] {Threei}  aiming to short FCX half lot into bounce
[09:29] {Threei}  ideally, around .50 - .60
[09:29] {dino} watch 11869, 2334, 1242 gaps from wed.
[09:32] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .50 break
[09:32] {Threei}  if stays under .65
[09:33] {Threei}  target 41.05
[09:33] {Threei}  1:1
[09:33] {Threei}  stop to .55 for the balance
[09:35] {Threei}  1"2
[09:35] {Threei}  1:2
[09:36] {Threei}  .51 for the leftover
[09:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .60 break
[09:37] {Threei}  aww, late
[09:37] {dino} ty fcx, cov .30, +.20
[09:37] {Threei}  ok
[09:37] {Threei}  valid again
[09:37] {Threei}  if holding .50
[09:37] {Threei}  1:1
[09:37] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:38] {Threei}  1:2 SLW, out
[09:38] {Threei}  no fill
[09:38] {Threei}  waiting at .80 withg stop trailed to .59
[09:39] {Threei}  scalpers win
[09:40] {Threei}  stop to .35 for the last piece of FCX
[09:41] {RonS} chi pmi 1 min early 4 min public
[09:41] {Threei}  yeah, sudden move is likely
[09:41] {Threei}  thanks for reminder
[09:41] {Threei}  always forgetting this double time
[09:42] {Threei}  bad numbers
[09:42] {Threei}  target hit
[09:42] {Threei}  out FCX
[09:43] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .50 break
[09:43] {Threei}  if stays under .55
[09:43] {Threei}  .50 sorry
[09:43] {Threei}  grrr
[09:43] {Threei}  disregard
[09:45] {Threei}  *(US) OCT CHICAGO PURCHASING MANAGERS INDEX: 58.4 V 59.0E
[09:47] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM  .85
[09:47] {Threei}  if stays under .95
[09:50] {Threei}  disregard RIMM
[09:50] {Threei}  doesn't trade right
[09:55] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .25 break half lot
[09:56] {Threei}  if stays under .35
[09:56] {Threei}  target 1:3, 3 partials
[09:56] {Threei}  1:1
[09:57] {Threei}  stop to .31
[09:57] {Threei}  to .26
[09:59] {Threei}  scalpers win
[10:00] {Threei}  3:3... did we break Monday curse?
[10:00] {Threei}  mondays have been lacklustre lately
[10:01] {dino} gj
[10:01] {Threei}  ty
[10:02] {dino} drive sm l .60
[10:03] {RonS} driv or drive?
[10:03] {ese} i'm still hangin in there with a small position from last friday dino at .86
[10:04] {ese} this one is just looking for an excuse
[10:04] {dino} driv, lol
[10:07] {dino} mdr sm l .70
[10:07] {ese} you got a target on driv dino?
[10:08] {dino} damn had hmsy on screen, spiked w/o me
[10:08] {dino} .90s ese
[10:10] {dino} nihd sm l .14
[10:10] {ese} hmmmmmmm......was gonna swing this small one for mid 19's
[10:10] {dino} could do it, just looking at fri resis
[10:11] {ese} ah well....it's a whatever........if it works great if not.........whatever
[10:11] {dino} sure
[10:12] {ese} sure lookin like it wants up though
[10:12] {dino} holds well, but kind of stuck
[10:12] {ese} ya
[10:15] {ese} if it goes by .65 your position will pay off easily.......i'll consider wether it's worth hangin onto at that point
[10:15] {Threei}  MF files folr bankruptsy\
[10:16] {ese} were they that big?......i don't know much about them
[10:19] {Threei}  yeah
[10:19] {Threei}  cleared for a lot of other firms
[10:19] {Threei}  fallout is significant
[10:20] {Threei}  but hey
[10:20] {Threei}  this is opportunity to finally test this novekl idea:
[10:20] {Threei}  let failure fail
[10:24] {dino} was expected eese
[10:30] {ese} I hadn't heard......was unaware
[10:30] {dino} ten sm l .30
[10:31] {RonS} some saying market cap 4 yrs ago $4 bil...corzine got brought in after one of their traders dropped $100 mil on commodity bet...chump change to the corzine bet
[10:32] {Threei}  amazes me, really
[10:32] {ese} i'll say
[10:32] {Threei}  did they really believe so strignly that EU will print its way out easily?
[10:38] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  48 break
[10:38] {Threei}  if stays above ,90
[10:39] {Threei}  target 1:3
[10:39] {Threei}  standard procedure
[10:40] {Threei}  1:1
[10:40] {dino} out ten .94, +.64
[10:40] {Threei}  wtg
[10:40] {dino} ty
[10:41] {swill} ty
[10:41] {Threei}  scalpers win
[10:42] {dino} you take that ten swill?
[10:42] {swill} no, lvs
[10:42] {dino} ok
[10:45] {dino} tzoo spike
[10:48] {Threei}  lvs deserved two-sided setup in retrospect,e h?
[10:52] {dino} auxl sm l .70
[10:52] {Threei}  TransCanada Corp Canada Energy Min: May need to sell oil sands oil elsewhere if the US does not approve the Keystone XL pipeline; may shift focus to a proposed pipeline to the west coast to serve Asian markets
[10:53] {dino} another obama screw-up
[10:53] {Threei}  let's see: oil from hostile countries with extremely volatile environment, or from closest stable neighbor?
[10:53] {Threei}  hmmm... touch choice
[10:53] {Threei}  tough
[10:54] {dino} db lod
[10:54] {RonS} db load
[10:55] {dino} out mdr .90, +.20
[10:55] {dino} driv stop -.15
[10:57] {dino} fslr sm l .31
[10:59] {dino} out fslr .64, +.33
[11:01] {dino} wow sold way too soon
[11:09] {ese} crap man....your hot today dino
[11:09] {Threei}  he takes revenge for Friday
[11:10] {ese} i'll say
[11:11] {ese} and here I am.......just watching my measily little position........ho hum
[11:12] {dino} friday was bad day for me
[11:12] {Threei}  we all have those
[11:13] {dino} auxl stop, -.30
[11:15] {Threei}  Fannie Mae Some managers at the company said have been placed on leave due to investigations of multi family transactions - financial press
[11:16] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .15 break
[11:16] {Threei}  stop above .25
[11:18] {Threei}  let's trail to .21
[11:18] {Threei}  not liking it much
[11:18] {Threei}  out
[11:25] {dino} auxl sm l .11
[11:28] {dino} nihd sm l .60
[11:41] {nemo} how today going?
[11:42] {RonS} 'jus sittin in te blind waiting for some deer to shoot and petting our rabbits
[11:42] {nemo} man after my own heart
[11:42] {RonS} lol...btw got the gunnars and they do help...thanks
[11:43] {nemo} yw
[11:44] {nemo} market digesting last week...end of month also
[11:44] {Threei}  moring nemo
[11:45] {Threei}  4:5 here
[11:45] {nemo} scalps or biggies?
[11:45] {Threei}  couple scalps
[11:45] {Threei}  couple better ones
[11:45] {Threei}  stop is whooping 7 cents
[11:45] {nemo} back breaker
[11:45] {Threei}  yeah
[11:45] {dino} 5 of 8 nemo
[11:46] {nemo} with slippage and fees, that's $.10!!!!
[11:46] {Threei}  yes :(
[11:46] {nemo} that's good for you dino on a gap market
[11:47] {nemo} Europe closing hour later today
[11:47] {dino} gap downs i don't mind, its the big gap up opens that mess w/me
[11:47] {Threei}  as far as I am concenred Europe is closed
[11:48] {nemo} stealth trend in IWM
[12:03] {RonS} dino, whatch thinkin target auxl...in .04 ave
[12:04] {dino}  ten sm l .50
[12:04] {RonS} qotd:  corzine to be dick fuld for halloween...
[12:05] {ese} am outta here ...cya tomorrow
[12:05] {Threei}  take care ese
[12:05] {Threei}  lol ron
[12:05] {Threei}  took me a second
[12:05] {dino} cya ese
[12:05] {RonS} lol:  Kim Kardashian will file for divorce this morning, after 72 days of not-so-wedded bliss to Kris Humphries ... TMZ has learned.
[12:06] {RonS} cya ese
[12:09] {RonS} merger rumor:   Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will become:  Knott NOW!
[12:09] {RonS} another...:   Victoria 's Secret and Smith & Wesson will merge under the new name:
[12:10] {RonS} TittyTittyBangBang
[12:11] {Threei}  lol
[12:11] {dino} out auxl .43, +.32
[12:11] {Threei}  nice
[12:11] {dino} lol
[12:11] {RonS} jeez my sell at .44
[12:12] {dino} almost missed, fingers covered in hot wing sauce
[12:12] {RonS} but you licked it...
[12:13] {dino} :)
[12:13] {dino} brb
[12:25] {Threei}  euro slides relentlessly
[12:30] {RonS} out auxl .38  +.34  ese size
[12:30] {Threei}  wtg
[12:31] {dino} gj
[12:31] {RonS} the market slide shook me out
[12:34] {dino} out ten .82, +.30
[12:34] {dino} +.32
[12:36] {RonS} wtg
[12:36] {dino} ty
[12:39] {RonS} bma sm l .95
[12:47] {dino} vhc
[12:54] {RonS} out bma .87 -.08
[13:07] {RonS} lol...CNBC reporting market sell-off due to Kardashian divorce rumors.
[13:08] {Threei}  is it an April 1 joke?
[13:08] {dino}   lol
[13:09] {RonS} lol...S&P downgrades $MF to D rating
[13:10] {RonS} first joke...second not...
[13:12] {dino} nice value added research s/p
[13:12] {Threei}  lol
[13:12] {Threei}  no kidding
[13:12] {Threei}  I'll say, second is a joke too Ron
[13:12] {RonS} qotd:  S&P must read the papers, savvy!
[13:15] {RonS} tif 81 break l if it consolidates 3i?
[13:16] {Threei}  doesn't inspire me...
[13:16] {RonS} diamond hater...
[13:16] {Threei}  something is too unreadable about it
[13:16] {Threei}  lol
[13:17] {Threei}  it's not even "no, not a good one..." it's "no idea, seems too random"
[13:17] {Threei}  but, diamonds are forever
[13:21] {RonS} and if bush had done this?  State Dept.: U.S. will withhold $60 million in funding to UNESCO that was due in November after vote on Palestinian membership.
[13:32] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .90 break half lot
[13:32] {Threei}  this is aggressive entry to .80 break,
[13:32] {Threei}  and idea is:
[13:32] {Threei}  half lot is taken on .90 break with stop above 41,
[13:32] {Threei}  and then half lot added on .80 break
[13:33] {Threei}  so, building full position as confirmation appears
[13:38] {Threei}  and if no confirmation ever comes, we get stopped on just a galf lot
[13:38] {Threei}  half
[13:39] {Threei}  ok, out
[13:40] {Threei}  be back in an hour guys
[13:40] {Threei}  to try and hunt for something good at the last hour
[14:27] {RonS} nwl l .80 break
[14:34] {RonS} out .88 +.07 ese size ese trade
[14:34] {dino} still in fl
[14:39] {RonS} dino, iart
[14:39] {RonS} looking of vol capit
[14:39] {RonS} for
[14:41] {dino} funny i have that on my screen, beat and lowered slightly
[14:42] {RonS} hmmm
[14:46] {dino} out nwl .92, +.12, thx ron
[14:47] {RonS} yw
[14:47] {dino} iart sm l .50
[14:56] {dino} thing's all over the place
[14:57] {RonS} auxl sm l .56
[14:57] {RonS} iart sm l .65
[14:59] {dino} out .77 ave +.27
[15:00] {dino} thing has air pockets under it
[15:01] {RonS} out iart flat
[15:02] {Threei}  back
[15:02] {Threei}  didn't miss much I see
[15:03] {RonS} hearing mf situation has impacted futures volmes
[15:05] {Threei}  gut says down to the eod
[15:06] {RonS} question of the day:  How many times does Dick Bove have to be wrong before he gets tar and feathered?
[15:06] {Threei}  lol
[15:15] {dino} lod
[15:16] {dino} out nihd -.05
[15:17] {dino} btw, 10" of snow fell here on saturday
[15:18] {Threei}  yikes
[15:18] {dino} was a mess
[15:19] {dino} but slowly melting away
[15:19] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .70 break
[15:19] {Threei}  if holding .60
[15:19] {Threei}  target 1:3
[15:19] {Threei}  1:1
[15:20] {Threei}  told ya I'd be back for another win
[15:20] {Threei}  1:2
[15:21] {Threei}  1:3 baby
[15:22] {dino} gj
[15:23] {Threei}  ty
[15:23] {Threei}  look at the precision of the target
[15:27] {RonS} out auxl +.01 .60 break fail
[15:30] {Threei}  freefall
[15:31] {dino} tom petty
[15:31] {Threei}  (GR) Greek parliament is planning a vote of confidence in the government for Friday, Nov 4th - financial press
[15:33] {dino} gotta hop, may be back for close
[15:33] {RonS} wow, does this mean dino is nemo's rabbit?
[15:34] {Threei}  you realize he will read it when he is back, right?:)
[15:36] {larisa} he can not read :)
[15:36] {Threei}  that's ron's only hope
[15:46] {Threei}  this one catstrophically looking close
[15:51] {Threei}  one pascinbating look at the market dynamics, real time:
[15:51] {Threei}  fascinating
[15:51] {Threei}  http://www.trade-ideas.com/Quantalytics/Charts.html
[15:55] {dino} hmmmmm
[15:55] {larisa} he CAN read :)
[15:55] {Threei}  tough luck Ron
[15:55] {dino} indeed
[15:56] {Threei}  hmm... you say indeed as if it was a given... I for instance can't
[15:58] {dino} looks like mf bankruptcy is hitting db hard
[16:01] {larisa} bye :)
[16:01] {Threei}  thank you all
[16:01] {Threei}  have a good evening
[16:01] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[16:02] {swill} thank you
[16:02] {dino} gn all, thx for ideas

Friday, October 28, 2011

Market Week Wrap-up

Trade The News Weekly market update: Market Week Wrap-up

- The euro zone leaders' summit on Wednesday dictated global market sentiment this week. Ahead of the meeting European officials worked very hard to dispel any ideas that a potential agreement would be the decisive end to the European debt crisis. France and Germany negotiated down to the wire, only coming to final agreement with Europe's major banks in the small hours of Thursday morning. In the end, Chancellor Merkel and President Sarkozy convinced the banks to take 50% haircuts on their Greek bonds and accept plans to boost their tier one capital ratio to 9% by next June. However everyone realizes that the deal raises as many questions as it answers; it also means that markets will face another wave of negotiations to settle a raft of outstanding issues in the months ahead. Fitch said the debt haircut plan would amount to a Greek default if it were carried out, even after the International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA) said they believed the "voluntary" nature of the exchange would not trigger CDS. The equity rally that followed the deal was dampened on Friday after Italy was forced to accept a yield over 6% in an auction of 10-year debt, driving home the tenuous state of the Italian economy. Corporate earnings among industrial and energy names were relatively strong, while the initial +2.5% reading US Q3 GDP data helped dampen fears of an imminent return to recession in the United States. The HSBC flash PMI report for China also calmed some nerves about a Chinese hard landing. In the negative column, the US October Consumer Confidence index was much weaker than expected, putting the index back at levels seen during the 2008-09 recession. Commodity prices surged along with equities: WTI crude remained firmly above the $90 handle, while spot gold gained approx $100 to trade just shy of $1,750. Copper prices moved up to the highest level in more than a month testing $3.75. For the week the DJIA gained 3.6%, the Nasdaq rose 3.8% and the S&P500 increased 3.7%, putting it positive territory for the year.

- The world's largest oil companies reported robust profits, capitalizing on higher prices and improved refining margins in the third quarter. Shell doubled its profits y/y, Chevron nearly doubled its earnings, Exxon's profit was up 41% y/y. Gains at ConocoPhillips, Total and BP were not quite as huge, but still impressive. Nevertheless, there was very little evidence that any of the supermajors are managing to grow production levels, limiting share gains this week.

- Despite the economic deceleration seen over the summer, manufacturing names performed extremely well during the third quarter. Caterpillar ground consensus estimates into dust, on profits that were up 44% y/y. Ford beat Q3 expectations, although profits slipped a bit on a y/y basis thanks to higher commodity costs. Boeing, General Dynamics, Northrop Gumman and Lockheed Martin beat, although executives cautioned that cuts to the FY12 US defense budget could be a big headwind next year. There were signs of trouble, however. Goodyear's results were strong, but it warned that tire sales volumes in North America declined 8% y/y. Whirlpool's results were not strong at all, and the firm announced that it would cut 10% of its workforce. Continuing trouble among tech-sector clients hurt 3M, which also cut its full-year outlook.

- Tech icons Netflix and Amazon saw big slides in their share values this week. Shares of Netflix were down as much as 36% after the company admitted that 800K customers had fled the service in the quarter following its failed attempt to split its streaming and DVD business. Shares of Amazon fell by double digits after margins collapsed and it missed top- and bottom-line, due in large part to the launch of the Fire tablet. Sprint's quarterly loss was a bit smaller than expected, and the firm outlined its strategy for betting the farm on the iPhone 4S. Radioshack got slammed after the firm's profits tanked on a big decline in margins and awful sales comps. In other news, Hewlett-Packard announced that it had decided not to spin off its PC unit.

- Visa's profit and revenue growth rates slowed on a sequential basis although payment volumes and total transactions showed healthy growth. Leading health insurance names reported quarterly results that were widely boosted by lower utilization rates, thanks to the weak economy and high unemployment. Metlife modestly exceeded expectations in its Q3 report, thanks in part to double-digit growth in international premiums and a big gain in investment income.

- Consumer staples names Colgate and Procter & Gamble met expectations in quarterly reports, although guidance was lackluster. Colgate said FY11 margins would fall further than expected due to "significantly higher" costs, while Procter's Q2 guidance was very soft. At UPS, volumes and revenues showed little growth, and the only bright spot in the firm's outlook was Asia.

- Trading in fixed income markets remained highly dependent on traders' overall affinity towards risk this week. The positive momentum that built up heading into the eurozone's master-plan announcement sent Treasury yields to their highest levels since early August. Corporate bond markets awakened with notable deals by some of the largest European financial companies, and even demand for high yield debt picked up. By Friday though, the Euro euphoria gave way, highlighted by another surge wider in sovereign debt spreads. The Italian 10-year yield reached 6% while Spain's 10-year rate climbed 18 basis points to 5.47%. Bund and Treasury prices bounced getting back a modest portion of the post summit losses. For the week the US 10-year yield backed up about 10 basis to points to finish above 3.3%.

- The euro traded in a tight range against other major currencies ahead of the successful leaders' summit on Thursday morning, with EUR/USD pivoting around 1.3900. Stabs downward followed on rumors that the summit would be cancelled or put off - the pair tested the 1.3850 level on confusion over the timing of various meetings on Wednesday - and continued ECB purchases of peripheral European sovereign debt helped hold up the single currency. Note that data out on Monday indicated that the ECB had boosted the amount it settled in the bond buying program last week to €4.5B from the prior week's €2.2B. Early on dealers were saying that the market was still maintaining net euro short positions, although they were mostly flushed out as the week progressed on optimism about possibilities for a successful summit outcome, and in the end the shorts were crushed. After the deal was announced, EUR/USD tested its former one-year uptrend line that was broken back in early September at the 1.4200 level. Note that 1.3970 is critical hourly support to maintain the recent upward momentum. USD/CHF tested five-week lows below the 0.88 level. The Swiss Franc did not react to comments from SNB Chief Hildebrand, who reiterated that the SNB will defend its floor with full determination.

- USD/JPY hit consecutive all-time lows several times this the week. Verbal intervention by numerous officials warned about the yen and even increases to Japan's asset purchases failed to weaken the JPY. Tough talk between the US and China on trade issues is punishing the yen: the US Treasury this week warned that China's access to US markets depended on fixing discriminatory trade practices. BoJ intervention risk has increased as this sort of rhetoric has heated up of late. Japan Finance Minister Azumi stated that Japan sees USD/JPY between ¥76-77 as inappropriate.

- In China, the 51.1 print in the October HSBC flash manufacturing PMI marked the first expansionary result in four months, setting a bullish tone for the week on Monday. The full official manufacturing data is expected early next week and it should indicate further improvement, as the official data includes some of the larger and more stable state-owned entities.

- Rate decisions from central banks of New Zealand and Japan were on the opposite sides of the policy spectrum. The RBNZ surprised analysts looking for a more dovish assessment in light of constraints from the EU sovereign debt crisis, reiterating that future rate increases may be needed if global impact turns out to be mild. NZD hit five-week lows above $0.82 against USD and also gained against AUD. In contrast, the Bank of Japan expanded its asset buying program by ¥5T to ¥55T, pledging to purchase additional long-term JGSs through the end of 2012. Australia is on tap for a policy decision early next week, as analysts pushed forward expectations for a rate cut following softer than expected Q3 consumer inflation data.



Trade The News

Oct 28 2011

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Somewhat listless day,  with few trades and slightly positive. Fitting for a Friday after tense week. Overall, we handled this week very well. 


Session Time: Fri Oct 28 00:00:01 2011
[09:19] {dino} gm all
[09:19] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:21] {ese} mornin
[09:22] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:22] {ese} huge up day vad yesterday........what your general sense for today....pullback then carry on
[09:22] {ese} whats
[09:22] {ese} pause?
[09:23] {Threei}  my inclination is for pullback...
[09:23] {Threei}  may start sobering up,
[09:23] {Threei}  italian bond yields go through the roof, outlining next problem looming
[09:23] {ese} ya .....i'd be leaning that way as well
[09:24] {Threei}  worst of all - it's not really "next" problem
[09:24] {Threei}  it's the same probem, and the deal was supposed to calm down market fears about Italy
[09:25] {Threei}  this reation shows failure
[09:25] {ese} hmmmmmm.......gets one to thinkin for sure
[09:25] {Threei}  yeah... see, it was never about Greece per se
[09:25] {Threei}  it was about contagion
[09:26] {Threei}  you can save Greece or abandon Grece, and it wouldn;'t matter much - if niot the reaction it causes in more important economies
[09:26] {Threei}  of which Italy is number 1
[09:26] {larisa} gm :)
[09:26] {Threei}  larisa :)
[09:26] {ese} ya true.......can't disagree with that really
[09:26] {ese} laris
[09:27] {Threei}  equity market reaction is fleeting and not idnicative to the same degree as bond market
[09:27] {Threei}  and bind market says I am not impressed
[09:27] {Threei}  bond
[09:27] {RonS} gm...mf will be an interesting side show...could get carried out today
[09:27] {Threei}  Ron :)
[09:27] {ese} you?
[09:28] {ese} ron
[09:28] {ese} why?
[09:28] {RonS} not me...mf
[09:28] {Threei}  before we short out first FXC, gotta share this quote:
[09:28] {Threei}  I try not to pay too much attention to the news. It's always full of other people's problems.
[09:29] {Threei}  lol
[09:29] {ese} lol
[09:29] {Threei}  keep half lot ready
[09:29] {dino} hey ron, that snowstorm of yours is hitting me tonight, 5"-12" inches
[09:30] {Threei}  wow
[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .90 break
[09:31] {Threei}  half lot
[09:31] {Threei}  if stays under .05
[09:31] {Threei}  no, not ready yet
[09:32] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .90 break
[09:33] {Threei}  if stays under .05
[09:33] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .20 break
[09:33] {Threei}  if stays under .30
[09:33] {Threei}  FCX half lot, SLW full
[09:34] {Threei}  SLW invalidated
[09:34] {Threei}  FCX triggered
[09:34] {Threei}  1:1
[09:34] {Threei}  target 1:3
[09:34] {Threei}  half out .06
[09:35] {Threei}  stop to .21
[09:35] {Threei}  1:3
[09:35] {Threei}  out
[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  35 break
[09:36] {Threei}  if stays under .10
[09:36] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .20 break
[09:39] {Threei}  stop above .30
[09:39] {Threei}  target 1:4 this time
[09:40] {Threei}  3 partials
[09:40] {Threei}  no rinsing FCX
[09:40] {Threei}  just die
[09:42] {Threei}  scalpers win
[09:44] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  .10 break
[09:44] {Threei}  if stays above 21 of course
[09:48] {Threei}  Germany's highest court has issued a temporary injunction banning the work of a new panel convened by the country's parliament to quickly green-light decisions on disbursement of taxpayer funds through the euro bailout program. The decision could lead to further delays in German decision-making in efforts to rescue the beleaguered common currency.
[09:53] {ese} dino...thoughts on DRIV
[09:53] {Threei}  (GE) German Chancellor Merkel; Does not believe the debt crisis will be over in a year
[09:54] {Threei}  try "ever" ma'am
[09:54] {dino} downgrade
[09:54] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  35 break
[09:54] {Threei}  if stays under .10
[09:55] {dino} nihd hl l .34
[09:55] {Threei}  *(US) OCT FINAL UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 60.9 V 58.0E
[09:55] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:56] {ese} the confidence report?
[09:56] {ese} ohhhhhhhhhhhh.....SLW
[09:57] {Threei}  lol, yes
[09:57] {dino} dk driv
[09:57] {ese} dk?
[09:58] {dino} don't know
[09:58] {RonS} don't know
[09:58] {ese} lol
[09:58] {ese} i definitely didn't know!
[09:58] {Threei}  dki = Drop Kraszy Idea
[09:59] {dino} nihd stop -.24
[09:59] {Threei}  wow... SLW deserved two-sided setup
[09:59] {RonS} lol...sm l nihd .10  next time call me...
[10:00] {dino} rinsed
[10:04] {RonS} out nihd +.11  thing is acting doggy
[10:05] {RonS} big early volume
[10:05] {dino} good out
[10:05] {RonS} waiting for a bolli break and re-enter
[10:11] {ese} L RVBD .48
[10:12] {Threei}  watching LVS for topping setup
[10:13] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .15 break
[10:13] {Threei}  stop above .25
[10:13] {ese} out RVBD ..5941 to be exact +.11
[10:13] {Threei}  1:1
[10:13] {dino} gj ese
[10:13] {Threei}  target 1:3
[10:14] {Threei}  1:2
[10:14] {Threei}  stop to .11
[10:15] {dino} fcx hl s .49
[10:15] {Threei}  1:3, out
[10:18] {cipher} lvs good one, thx 3i
[10:18] {Threei}  :)
[10:19] {dino} fcx stop -.16
[10:21] {ese} tks dino
[10:23] {dino} nihd hl l .81
[10:23] {RonS} nihd l .78
[10:24] {Threei} Long Setup:  V  95 break
[10:24] {Threei}  half lot
[10:24] {Threei}  lol
[10:29] {Threei}  come on... anyone even tried?
[10:29] {Threei}  I understand no one got it
[10:29] {Threei}  that was rocket launch
[10:29] {cipher} i cought a short on it for a scalp
[10:29] {dino} gj
[10:29] {Threei}  lol
[10:29] {dino} cipher the contrarian
[10:30] {Threei}  sibling of konan the barbarian?
[10:32] {ese} L DRIV by shooting .58
[10:34] {ese} out DRIV .69 +.11
[10:36] {dino} nihd to .98
[10:37] {nemo} how goies it today
[10:38] {ese} L DRIV .60
[10:38] {dino} out nihd  =.17
[10:39] {dino} +
[10:40] {Threei}  who is up for scaslp type I?
[10:40] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  21 break
[10:40] {Threei}  if stays above .95
[10:40] {ese} out DRIV .75 +.15
[10:41] {dino} gj
[10:41] {ese} tks...well done on nihd
[10:42] {dino} ty
[10:43] {Threei}  now, while the world is drowning in problems, Canada has some on its own:
[10:43] {Threei}  A Canadian senator is calling for the industrious beaver to step aside for a new, more intimidating official national emblem: the polar bear.
[10:43] {Threei}  Slamming the beaver as a "dentally defective rat," Conservative Sen. Nicole Eaton this week urged that it be replaced as part of a national "emblem makeover," the National Post reports.
[10:43] {Threei}  Read more: http://www.canada.com/technology/Polar+bear+beaver+Time+replace+national+emblem+Senator/5621897/story.html#ixzz1c5UzpTfz
[10:43] {ese} Christ.......
[10:43] {ese} wtf next
[10:43] {Threei}  dentally defective rat, lol
[10:44] {Threei}  RIMM invalidated
[10:44] {ese} rotflol
[10:45] {ese} oh.........................my.............................god
[10:45] {ese} and yes.........................
[10:45] {RonS} guy's an idiot...the beaver was the backbone of the frontier economy
[10:45] {nemo} I like beaver
[10:45] {ese} for those of you south of the border
[10:46] {ese} some of us are that freakin stupid
[10:46] {RonS} w/ out the beaver it would have been another 100 years before settlement of the continenet
[10:46] {RonS} what did the polar bear ever do for anybody?  freakin greenies
[10:47] {Threei}  well, one thing they did for me
[10:47] {Threei}  my phto of a polar bear is my best seller
[10:47] {RonS} lol
[10:47] {Threei}  other than that... no idea :)
[10:48] {ese} lol
[10:48] {Threei}  this one:
[10:49] {Threei}  http://www.realitytrader.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=367
[10:49] {ese} nice
[10:50] {dino} nihd hl l .10 break
[10:50] {ese} could be dentally defective as well with those incisor teeth
[10:51] {RonS} out nihd .18 +.40
[10:52] {ese} L DRIV .65
[10:53] {ese} well done ron.............hard fought battle
[10:54] {ese} Royal BC museum vad?
[10:54] {Threei}  no
[10:54] {Threei}  it's a live one
[10:54] {ese} oh
[10:55] {RonS} ya shook me out of half of my position on the whip...was going for ese size, but held w/ ese dwarf
[10:55] {ese} where did you get that
[10:55] {Threei}  Portland zoo
[10:55] {Threei}  replaced background
[10:56] {RonS} oh ya, been there...remember when that exhibit was new...
[10:56] {ese} well go figur
[10:56] {dino} gj ron
[10:56] {RonS} ty
[11:01] {dino} cpsi
[11:01] {Threei}  how about that RIMM?
[11:02] {ese} well ya know..............ya got yer dentally defective rats and den ya got yer dentally defective bears............end of story
[11:02] {Threei}  here we go:
[11:02] {Threei}  (IR) Ireland PM Kenny: Will attempt more options to deal with lowering debt;will ask for more flexibility as Ireland has never requested a debt writedown
[11:03] {dino} ten hl l .75
[11:05] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/48FXl
[11:09] {dino} and it begins, ireland
[11:09] {Threei}  yup
[11:09] {ese} am outta here early day.........cya monday...have a great weekend
[11:09] {dino} portugal, then italy
[11:09] {Threei}  how very unexpectedly
[11:09] {dino} cya ese
[11:10] {Threei}  who could have seen this coming
[11:10] {ese} dino vad ron
[11:10] {Threei}  take care ese
[11:10] {RonS} cya ese
[11:12] {dino} out nihd +.23
[11:21] {Threei}  hmmm
[11:21] {Threei}  how come ese and patience are not in the room at the same time?
[11:21] {Threei}  these two are hiding something
[11:25] {dino} hmsy hl l .51
[11:26] {thomcbell} what are u seeing there Dino?
[11:26] {dino} upside
[11:30] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/3iTGT
[11:30] {dino} hmsy stuck, tighten to .46
[11:32] {dino} stop
[11:36] {dino} ten to b/e
[11:43] {dino} out
[11:44] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  36 break
[11:44] {Threei}  ugh... late
[11:45] {Threei}  ok
[11:45] {Threei}  same setup
[11:45] {Threei}  stop above .10
[11:46] {Threei}  watching FCX for bounce
[11:48] {Threei}  let's trail SLW stop to .06
[11:48] {Threei}  don't wnt to give it too much room
[11:48] {Threei}  out
[11:51] {dino} ten l .60
[11:51] {dino} stop .49
[11:55] {Threei}  grrr
[11:55] {Threei}  rinsed
[11:57] {dino} me too
[11:57] {dino} lots of rinses today for me
[11:58] {dino} stop ten -.11
[11:58] {dino} taking a break
[12:01] {patience} good morning
[12:01] {patience} i really dislike being patience when i short a stock
[12:01] {patience} patient
[12:03] {Threei}  what did you short?
[12:03] {patience} slw
[12:04] {patience} i don't do reversals well
[12:25] {RonS} sm l qihu .90  s/l .79
[12:28] {cipher} ten l 15
[12:29] {RonS} what the heck 100k sh offered at 21.00 qihu...
[12:31] {cipher} ten -15
[12:32] {RonS} offer acting real...
[12:37] {dino} chewing it up
[12:39] {thomcbell} SLW breaking the reaction low for short setup?
[12:42] {Threei}  does look this way...
[12:43] {patience} they aren't exactly rushing to the exits on it though
[12:46] {patience} out, rather trade gold
[12:51] {RonS} expe sm l .25
[12:52] {RonS} may be old news...Freeport McMoRan declares force majeure in Indonesia - strike will force it to break copper supply contracts.
[12:55] {Threei}  (IT) Italy PM Berlusconi: Euro has not convinced anyone; it is a 'strange' currency; vulnerabilities exist in legacy debt
[12:55] {Threei}  huh?
[12:55] {Threei}  this guy blackmails them or what?
[12:57] {dino} classic debtor, "not our fault"
[12:58] {Threei}  after his recent "banking problem is Germany and France issue" we see a pattern emerging
[12:59] {Threei}  Italy is the next Europe's disobeying child
[12:59] {Threei}  disobedient?
[13:00] {Threei}  bad boy, in short
[13:00] {RonS} disrobing?
[13:00] {Threei}  well, considring bunga bunga parties... yes :)
[13:47] {RonS} out qihu -.05, out expe -.07
[14:07] {dino}   vc spike
[14:11] {dino} sm s .98
[14:12] {RonS} Visteon $VC Shares Jump as Co. Might Be Looking to Sell Lighting, Interior Units -Bloomberg
[14:12] {dino} ty
[14:14] {dino} stop
[14:15] {dino} rinsed again wtf
[14:19] {dino} sm s .25 break wide
[14:23] {dino} stopped
[14:23] {dino} i give up today, nothing working
[14:23] {Threei}  locked market
[14:23] {Threei}  my coma seems to be the mst ap[propriate responce
[14:23] {patience} made money in overnight holds but useless day for me today
[14:25] {patience} it is a melt up environment when logically i'm thinking markets should be falling
[14:25] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/ofn3i
[14:26] {Threei}  logically?
[14:26] {Threei}  where is nemo
[14:26] {Threei}  he needs ot be here to eradicate this word from our vocabulary
[14:56] {RonS} qotd:  when mf gets kicked off the big board they plan to change their symbol to mofo..
[14:57] {Threei}  lol
[14:59] {patience} vad, any thoughts on tza
[14:59] {Threei}  i can't tell if market wants to drop into close
[15:01] {patience} ty
[15:03] {Threei}  doesn't look ike that so far
[15:05] {Threei}  Pru 7.0 eathquake
[15:05] {Threei}  Peru
[15:06] {RonS} doesn't scco operate there?
[15:07] {RonS} no reaction yet...
[15:10] {RonS} wierd epu ran up
[15:24] {thomcbell} slw Vad?
[15:25] {Threei}  really want to short the bejeezeus out of it
[15:25] {thomcbell} lol
[15:25] {Threei}  but honestly, not a very confident setup
[15:25] {Threei}  marginal
[15:25] {thomcbell} fair enuf
[15:25] {Threei}  look at SPY
[15:25] {Threei}  embodiment of indecisiveness
[15:26] {thomcbell} coin flip 7 handle move
[15:39] {Threei}  imagine a jellyfish now and then hit wth eletrocharged stick
[15:40] {Threei}  that's the market rifght now
[15:40] {Threei}  drifting aimlessly, from time and time jerking this or that way
[15:55] {Threei}  Ok guys, thank you all
[15:55] {Threei}  interesting week
[15:55] {Threei}  we handled it rather well
[15:56] {Threei}  have a great weekend, see ou all Monday
[15:59] {larisa} bye :)
[15:59] {patience} very profitable week, ty vad

Thursday, October 27, 2011

Oct 27 2011

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7 calls, 6 wins - not bad, right? But here is the curious thing: on what probably is the strongest day for the markets this year, all 7 plays were on a short side. We day traders weird creatures.


Session Time: Thu Oct 27 00:00:00 2011
[08:31] {Threei}  *(US) INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 402K V 401KE;
[08:31] {Threei}  GDP 2.5% in line
[09:10] {Threei}  everyone's asleep after yesterday?
[09:12] {ese} gm
[09:13] {larisa} gm :)
[09:14] {ese} morning laris
[09:14] {larisa} ese :)
[09:16] {thomcbell} isn't the world a nice place
[09:17] {Threei}  ese, larisa, thom :)
[09:17] {Threei}  why, it sure is
[09:21] {nemo} well, no tree sitting in the rain
[09:22] {Threei}  sorry
[09:22] {Threei}  but hey,
[09:22] {Threei}  you get to hang out with us
[09:22] {Threei}  and vice versa
[09:23] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/cIPPl
[09:25] {dino} gm all
[09:25] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:25] {RonS} hello everyone
[09:26] {Threei}  ron :)
[09:26] {dino} nemo, are you trading for yourself or sombody else now that you passed the test?
[09:26] {Threei}  want to skip first few minutes, to let the market work out first hectic movements,
[09:26] {Threei}  then look for setups, thinking short side
[09:27] {patience} good morning
[09:27] {Threei}  patience :)
[09:29] {Threei}  FCX is getting anead of itself
[09:30] {dino} heck of agap left behind
[09:31] {Threei}  no kidding
[09:31] {Threei}  RIMM sharp drop
[09:31] {dino} especailly ndx
[09:31] {Threei}  bounce into .40 - .50 area for shorting
[09:31] {dino} 66 pts
[09:31] {Threei}  FCX, prepare smallish shares
[09:32] {Threei}  too fast...
[09:32] {Threei}  had .10 break in mind
[09:34] {Threei}  RIMM is almost getting there
[09:35] {Threei}  sharp break, no chance for entry
[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .60 break half lot
[09:37] {Threei}  stop above .75
[09:37] {Threei}  target 42.20
[09:38] {Threei}  1:1
[09:39] {Threei}  stop for the balance to .65
[09:39] {Threei}  to .61
[09:39] {Threei}  1:2
[09:39] {Threei}  to .55
[09:41] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM  .20 break
[09:42] {Threei}  1:1
[09:42] {dino} cov fcx .30, +.30 ty vad
[09:42] {Threei}  :)
[09:43] {Threei}  FCX target hit, out
[09:44] {dino} cov rimm .12, +.08
[09:44] {dino} ty vad
[09:44] {Threei}  welcome sir
[09:44] {Threei}  let's go home?
[09:45] {dino} not yet
[09:46] {Threei}  then SLW short is next
[09:46] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .20 break
[09:47] {Threei}  stop above .30
[09:48] {Threei}  no go
[09:50] {Threei}  RIMM agan
[09:50] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM  .35 break
[09:50] {Threei}  if stays under .45
[09:53] {Threei}  target .15
[09:53] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  42 break half lot
[09:54] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:54] {Threei}  but on radar for reestablishing
[09:55] {Threei}  valid again
[09:56] {ese} anyone checked out BMC.....dino......was tanked for no good reason
[09:57] {dino} cov rimm .20, +.04
[09:57] {Threei}  let's trail timm to .41
[09:57] {Threei}  was 1 cent to 1:1
[09:57] {dino} will do ese, was playing vad as not my type of market
[09:58] {Threei}  1:1
[09:58] {Threei}  half out, stop to .36
[09:58] {dino} bunch of mark guts bmc
[09:58] {dino} cuts
[09:58] {RonS} got rimm .35 to .18  ty
[09:58] {Threei}  target hit
[09:58] {Threei}  :)
[09:58] {dino} gj rimm vad i was too tight
[09:59] {ese} ya target price deal........
[09:59] {Threei}  wow RIMM
[09:59] {Threei}  had more in it
[09:59] {dino} fcx target?
[09:59] {Threei}  FCX 1:1
[10:00] {Threei}  1:2 is target
[10:00] {dino} ese bmc, lets see re-test hold
[10:00] {Threei}  hmmm
[10:00] {Threei}  maybe more FCX
[10:00] {dino} 07 solid red
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) SEPT PENDING HOME SALES M/M: -4.6% V 0.3%E; Y/Y: 7.9% V 11.8%E
[10:00] {Threei}  because of this horrific crap
[10:01] {Threei}  awwww RIMMMMMM
[10:01] {dino} regn
[10:01] {Threei}  strong case of scalper's regret
[10:02] {ese} yup....am lookin at that
[10:02] {Threei}  FCX stop for the balance to .01
[10:04] {Threei}  1:2
[10:05] {Threei}  should have more in it
[10:07] {Threei}  stop to .95
[10:08] {Threei}  to .91
[10:08] {dino} 07 all red
[10:09] {dino} cov fcx .90, +.09
[10:09] {Threei}  out last piece FCX
[10:09] {Threei}  4 out of 5
[10:09] {Threei}  all are shorts
[10:10] {Threei}  day traders are weird creatures
[10:10] {Threei}  almost like green men from Mars
[10:10] {ese} gj dino
[10:10] {Threei}  except patience and larisa who are blue women from Venus
[10:11] {ese} thats my style......short and too the point
[10:11] {ese} BMC approaching .00
[10:11] {dino} mdr sm l .52
[10:13] {Threei}  RIMM actually went red
[10:13] {patience} blue?  nope, gold and silver, my favs  :),     in slw 34.10 btw
[10:13] {dino} lol
[10:14] {ese} L MYL 1/2 .23
[10:14] {dino} out mdr .80, +.28
[10:15] {dino} hgr sm l .00
[10:15] {Threei}  nice
[10:15] {dino} thx
[10:16] {ese} ya good one
[10:16] {dino} figured i'd give first half hour to you boss
[10:16] {Threei}  that may be too much for me
[10:17] {Threei}  but I am flattered nonetheless {G}
[10:17] {Threei}  (just trying to bargain for the timing of the next "can I go home?" question)
[10:18] {Threei}  gosh... look at RIMM daily
[10:18] {ese} crap missed BMC
[10:18] {Threei}  memories of PALM
[10:19] {ese} " feelings..........nothing more than Feelings......."
[10:19] {nemo} It's more than a feeling....
[10:20] {ese} out MYL .20 -.03.........doing nothing for me
[10:20] {Threei}  whatcha talking about guys?
[10:21] {Threei}  who is feeling what?
[10:21] {dino} songs
[10:21] {Threei}  oh... I don't do those
[10:21] {Threei}  nor dances
[10:21] {ese} lol
[10:22] {dino} so you're more like phil collins "i can't dance"
[10:22] {ese} thats ok vad......you talent in other areas.......Like.....you dance around a barbecue great
[10:22] {ese} you have
[10:23] {Threei}  just as ese... I once as much as hummed 5 seconds tune in presence of his group, they had to call paramedics and rescucite three of them
[10:23] {Threei}  just ask
[10:23] {dino} afraid to
[10:23] {dino} :D
[10:24] {ese} lol
[10:25] {dino} \bmc hl l .25
[10:25] {dino} things getting pulp-like
[10:26] {dino} bmc that is
[10:27] {dino} all red
[10:28] {dino} out bmc .50, +.25
[10:29] {Threei}  how about this real time demonstration of the major tape reading principle
[10:29] {Threei}  For three weeks market was discounting this EU news; when news finally came, crowd jumped in creating this enormous gap;
[10:29] {Threei}  Smart Money that bought earlier dumps their holdings now into crowd's hands, and market goes down on great news. Textbook study.
[10:30] {dino} madness of crowds
[10:31] {ese} good one with BMC dino.......ticks me off that i missed that
[10:36] {Threei}  RIMM starts getting this ominous look of "short wherever and don't be ain rush to cover"
[10:39] {nemo} iwm spy looking weak
[10:41] {nemo} having said that .96 vwap iwm 127.28 vwap spy
[10:41] {thomcbell} cvh?
[10:44] {patience} half out slw
[10:45] {Threei}  don't see any clear play on it here, thomc
[10:51] {dino} cvh all i see is up on takeover rumors yesterday
[10:51] {dino} gut feel short it, as weak in strong market
[10:51] {ese} L MWW 1/2 .24
[10:53] {thomcbell} cvh downgraded at Bernstein pre-open
[10:55] {RonS} Avon Products Under Investigation for Potentially Violating Bribery Laws
[10:56] {Threei}  they refused to take bribe?
[10:56] {Threei}  or to give?
[10:56] {dino} is that all the investigation is?
[10:57] {Threei}  my perception may be clouded by Soviet experience here you'd get investigated unless bribed investigatiors
[10:58] {Threei}  so refusal to give a bribe was in fact violation
[10:58] {RonS} Avon mis-execution across mkts = hugely under-performing global beauty. More SEC investigations. Why is CEO around after lost decade?
[11:04] {patience} out other half of slw, need to go for a run
[11:04] {Threei}  RIMM comes to a resistance at .80
[11:05] {Threei}  not sujre break or reversal, watching
[11:09] {ese} mww moving at a snails pace ....but moving
[11:10] {dino} cern hl l .98
[11:11] {dino} out .38, +.40
[11:11] {Threei}  wtg
[11:14] {dino} ty pulp
[11:14] {Threei}  pulp it is
[11:14] {dino} qsii all over the place
[11:14] {Threei}  that's what pulp does :)
[11:14] {dino} nihd hl l .50
[11:16] {dino} wow cern went a buck
[11:16] {Threei} Short Setup: EIX  .05 break
[11:16] {Threei}  if stays under .10
[11:17] {Threei}  ridiculously tight stop
[11:17] {Threei}  just a scalp most likely, to cover somewhere under 41
[11:18] {Threei}  RIMM elected to break .80... not sure if there is play here somewhere
[11:20] {Threei}  interesting... Italian bonds didn't really show any considerable positive reaction
[11:20] {Threei}  bond players don't believe the crisis is resolved or what? :)
[11:21] {RonS} to the rimm break?
[11:21] {Threei}  EIX, feel free to cover as you see fit, just a scalp
[11:21] {dino} out nihd .78, +.28
[11:23] {Threei}  out EIX
[11:23] {Threei}  guys, I have to leave for an hour or so, wife car's windshield needs to be replaced
[11:24] {nemo} why'd she push your head through it?
[11:24] {Threei}  let it be our family secret
[11:24] {nemo} ahhh
[11:25] {Threei}  I mean, yes, but that's not the reason... she does that regularly and never did it lead to glass breaking
[11:25] {Threei}  nice EIX
[11:25] {Threei}  with 5 out of 6, I think you can let me go for an hour
[11:25] {Threei}  be back soon
[11:27] {dino} gj 3i
[11:30] {cipher} eix .80 l
[11:32] {ese} out mww.43 +.19
[11:32] {dino} gj
[11:33] {ese} L symc .33
[11:35] {RonS} watching bmc for a turn
[11:37] {ese} symc just like the old days 5k
[11:37] {ese} out 1/2 .41 +.08
[11:37] {RonS} ye old ese size
[11:38] {RonS} olde
[11:38] {ese} yup
[11:38] {RonS} bmc l .32
[11:38] {ese} gut feeling here
[11:38] {dino} wtg
[11:39] {ese} stop to .35 balance
[11:40] {ese} lets just see what happens shall we
[11:43] {ese} out .45 balance +.12     2 /1/2k
[11:43] {ese} good for me.....gotta go cya all tomorrow...choir show today
[11:43] {RonS} cya ese wtg
[11:44] {ese} tks
[11:44] {ese} nice work if you can get it
[11:44] {dino} cya ses gj
[11:44] {RonS} lol
[11:48] {cipher} out eix be
[11:50] {dino} lol ese i mean
[12:08] {cipher} s iex .73
[12:09] {RonS} out bmc .69  +.37
[12:09] {RonS} dang it...
[12:09] {RonS} unreal
[12:09] {RonS} wanted .86
[12:10] {cipher} out -.11
[12:11] {RonS} market order for 80k shares...wtf
[12:14] {dino} gj
[12:14] {RonS} thing popped .20 w/in 1 sec after exit...had order to sell .86...i'm pissed
[12:15] {dino} hate when that happens
[12:16] {RonS} took +.13 on hgr...thing was boring me to death...thanks
[12:18] {dino} gj, i should've, had .19 but greed
[12:19] {RonS} ya, when it rolled from there i just bailed..
[12:22] {dino} mmm, meatloaf sandwich, the most under-rated sandwich out there
[12:34] {dino} out hgr .20, +.20
[12:39] {Threei}  back
[12:39] {Threei}  what did I miss?
[12:39] {RonS} dino making money...imagine that!...
[12:40] {Threei}  huh
[12:40] {Threei}  that's new
[12:46] {RonS} i knew that stuff was bs...:  New Study Finds Influenza Vaccine is Only 1.5% Effective; Not 60% As We Have Been Told
[12:47] {RonS} free to start, now koolaid for money...
[12:49] {RonS} got nothing to do?  watch mf for volume run or crash...
[12:50] {RonS} mf sm l .64  s/l .59
[12:55] {dino} wtf hgr goes to .20 drops to .09 goes to .44
[12:57] {dino} nihd app lod
[12:58] {dino} hl l .17
[12:59] {Threei}  lol
[12:59] {Threei}  (EU) ECB's Noyer: Markets appear to believe euro zone plan is adequate - financial press interview
[12:59] {Threei}  Noyer, to the side: can you believe this??
[13:00] {dino} roflol, after one day all is well
[13:00] {Threei}  market doesn't believe anything, Noyer - market sees money poured in and reacts accordingly
[13:01] {Threei}  no immediate collaspe and new injections ahead - why wouldn't market go up
[13:01] {Threei}  doesn't mean anyone believes that solution is found
[13:01] {Threei}  or even possible
[13:06] {dino} out nihd .43, +.26
[13:08] {RonS} out mf .60 -.04
[13:09] {RonS} Fitch downgrades $MF.
[13:10] {Threei}  well, with that name, wouldn't you
[13:10] {RonS} lol
[13:12] {dino} nihd spikes after i sell
[13:19] {RonS} qsii sm l .60
[13:20] {Threei}  market went into slow creep-up mode
[13:20] {Threei}  not my environment
[13:25] {patience} my type   :)
[13:26] {Threei}  great, you drive
[13:26] {patience} better yet, Westjet blue tag specials coming up in 25 minutes.  i am booking somewhere warm.
[13:54] {RonS} qsii stop .20
[14:05] {RonS} qsii stop .35
[14:08] {RonS} out qs11 40.10  +1.50
[14:08] {RonS} qsii
[14:08] {dino}  wtfg
[14:08] {RonS} ty
[14:09] {RonS} and thanks to nemo...
[14:12] {Threei}  nice one
[14:41] {RonS} lol...Sarkozy Says Was An 'Error' To Admit Greece To Euro In 2001
[14:42] {dino}  lol
[14:42] {dino} expensive error at that
[14:42] {Threei}  rofl
[14:52] {Threei}  OK, whose gut says what about last hour?
[14:52] {Threei}  profit taking or new march up?
[14:52] {patience} new march up
[14:52] {patience} not that i think it is warranted
[14:53] {Threei}  btw patience
[14:53] {patience} y
[14:53] {Threei}  you know that according to our local paper, you "grow thin"?
[14:53] {Threei}  Occupy Victoria protesters remain in square as patience grows thin
[14:53] {Threei}  Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Occupy+Victoria+protesters+remain+square+patience+grows+thin/5612710/story.html#ixzz1c0fdh3NY
[14:53] {patience} if you believe that, i have a great piece of property going up in value in greece if you want it
[14:54] {patience} oh, funny
[14:54] {dino} down to close around +225
[15:06] {Threei}  (EU) Some ECB members commentary in light of Euro zone agreement suggests possibility of maintained emergency measures due to slight skepticism of recent agreement - financial presss
[15:09] {RonS} ya mean the band of thieves may have lied to each other?
[15:09] {Threei}  noooo
[15:09] {RonS} gambling in this establishment...shocking...
[15:09] {Threei}  it can't be
[15:09] {Threei}  tell me it's not so... my world is crashing all around me
[15:12] {RonS} funny how the "fisheads & rice" labor market in thailand doesn't look so cheap anymore
[15:14] {RonS} look cstr
[15:15] {RonS} Studios considering 60-day delay on $NFLX and $CSTR to boost movie sales
[15:15] {Threei}  yeah
[15:15] {Threei}  saw that news
[15:20] {RonS} optioons education anyone?  the new insider frontier...look at mrvl call 14 3x the OI w/ earnings and options that expire tomorrow
[15:20] {Threei}  not me, sorry
[15:21] {dino} seems my 225 call is not happening
[15:21] {RonS} let's see how this turns out and how much these bandits steal...w/ no worries about the sec
[15:23] {Threei}  +400
[15:23] {Threei}  sheesh
[15:24] {nemo} we'll probably get to 131.50 tomorrow, and then new highs next week
[15:24] {nemo} earnings aren't bad, economy is expanding, there's nowhere to go in bonds, money will continue into equities
[15:25] {nemo} that is, unless Europe has further structural issues that come to the forefront
[15:27] {dino} if this was -400 everybody would be complaining about the shorts
[15:28] {nemo} and HFT
[15:28] {dino} yes
[15:29] {dino} i have ndx yearly high of 2417
[15:34] {dino} gotta hop, maybe back for close
[15:34] {dino} thx for some great ideas today, good deay overall
[15:35] {dino} day
[15:35] {RonS} cya dino
[15:36] {Threei}  take care dino
[15:47] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .85 break half lot
[15:48] {Threei}  stop above .95
[15:48] {Threei}  1;1
[15:49] {Threei}  1:2
[15:49] {Threei}  out
[15:49] {Threei}  6 for 7
[15:49] {Threei}  what else does one want from life
[15:49] {RonS} gj
[15:49] {Threei}  thank you all, have a great evening
[15:50] {dino}  hmmm dropped 100 while out
[15:50] {nemo} a trading firm
[15:50] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:50] {dino} cool nemo, gl to you
[15:50] {patience} ty vad




Wednesday, October 26, 2011

Oct 26 2011

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We handled this quite unusual day with great restraint and discipline. 5 trades, 4 wins, 2 of them nicely sized. One of them made Catch of the Day:




Session Time: Wed Oct 26 00:00:01 2011
[09:01] :Threei}  OK... I knew at some point I'd have to open my eyes...
[09:01] :Threei}  I can trade not waking up, but with my eyes closed - tough...
[09:04] :patience} good morning
[09:04] :Threei}  patience :)
[09:05] :patience} nice batch of shrimp last night for dinner
[09:05] :Threei}  :)
[09:05] :ese} morning
[09:05] :Threei}  ese :)
[09:06] :swill} :)gm
[09:06] :ese} this is too laugh...........these little techie guys in T.O. still have not figured out why I got dashes on my charts instead of candles
[09:07] :Threei}  swill :)
[09:07] :dino} gm all
[09:07] :Threei}  lol ese
[09:07] :Threei}  dino :)
[09:07] :ese} dino swill vad patience
[09:07] :swill} ese morning
[09:08] :dino} :)
[09:08] :patience} morning ese et al
[09:09] :ese} LNG up 4.85...72%
[09:10] :ese} more now
[09:11] :dino} 8 b deal lng
[09:14] :ese} got out of HUBG around 3:30 yesterday at .42 +.44 on a 1/2 lot....a dino clasic
[09:17] :Threei}  (GE) German Bundestag (Lower House) approves measures on EFSF leveraging (as expected)
[09:17] :Threei}  - ECB will no longer need to purchase bonds on the secondary market
[09:17] :Threei}  - EFSF can Not be financed through the ECB
[09:17] :Threei}  - The final vote was 503 to 89
[09:17] :dino} gj ese
[09:17] :Threei}  (EU) Juncker: have to make the direction of the Euro Zone plan "ultra clear" as of tonight; talks with the banks are ongoing
[09:19] :ese} tks
[09:20] :dino} so we have a plan?
[09:21] :Threei}  they say they do
[09:21] :Threei}  market is going to be a football today, punched each every direction by another headline, real or fake or misunderstood or mistyped
[09:22] :Threei}  let's be nimble
[09:23] :Threei}  get caught on the wrong side today during sharp turn caused by another "news" - the pain can be enormous
[09:28] :Threei}  http://www.facebook.com/RealityTrader/posts/279410518760297
[09:28] :Threei}  with that in mind, let's keep first trades at half lot
[09:29] :Threei}  usual suspects on the radar
[09:30] :Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .35 break half lot
[09:31] :Threei}  if stays under .50
[09:31] :Threei}  nope
[09:33] :Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .40 break
[09:33] :Threei}  if stays under .55
[09:33] :Threei}  invalidated
[09:34] :Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .50 break
[09:34] :Threei}  ugh, late
[09:35] :Threei}  see if bounces back into trigger
[09:36] :Threei}  doesn't look like that
[09:36] :Threei}  got away
[09:36] :Threei}  opening volatility...
[09:36] :Threei}  grrr
[09:36] :ese} L MPEL .11
[09:38] :Threei}  (EU) Negotiations over bank haircuts for Greek debt are said to be deadlocked - financial press
[09:38] :Threei}  RIMM delayed next version of Playbook OS
[09:39] :Threei}  TZA, let's see if can catch a long on pullback to about .40
[09:41] :Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .40 break half lot
[09:41] :Threei}  stop .25
[09:42] :Threei}  1:1
[09:42] :Threei}  if partialing, stop to .34 for the balance
[09:44] :Threei}  chart shows spike into 1:2 but I didn't see level 2 going there in reality
[09:44] :Threei}  must be out of bounds
[09:44] :Threei}  OK, here it is
[09:44] :Threei}  1:2
[09:45] :Threei}  stop to .49 if still holding some
[09:45] :Threei}  target .90 - .95 for the last piece
[09:47] :Threei}  let's go TZA
[09:47] :Threei}  SPY break of 124 should do it
[09:47] :Threei}  which should correspond with TZA break of .80
[09:48] :Threei}  here we go
[09:49] :Threei}  stop to .59
[09:49] :Threei}  my a$$ is out TZA in full here, +.50
[09:50] :dino} gj
[09:50] :Threei}  ty
[09:51] :swill} wow wtg
[09:53] :cipher} NFLX l 87
[09:54] :ese} dino what are you stalking
[09:56] :cipher} out .19 & .01
[09:56] :Threei}  wow cipher... not only gutsy entry, but great gut feel as well
[09:57] :cipher} may go lower
[09:57] :ese} well done chief with TZA
[09:57] :Threei}  ty sir
[09:57] :Threei} Short Setup: FCX  39 break
[09:58] :Threei}  if stays under .10
[09:59] :Threei}  target 1:3
[10:00] :RonS} chk sm l .70
[10:00] :Threei}  *(EU) REPORT FROM OFFICIALS INDICATES THAT THE EFSF CAPACITY TO BE DETERMINED BY END OF NOV
[10:01] :Threei}  *(US) SEPT NEW HOME SALES: 313K V 300KE
[10:02] :Threei}  die FCX
[10:02] :dino} out chk .90 +.20 ty ron
[10:02] :Threei}  nice one
[10:03] :RonS} out chk .95 +.25  yw ese
[10:03] :dino} call me dino, lol
[10:04] :ese} excellent you guys
[10:04] :Threei}  FCX take a bit too long
[10:05] :Threei}  but still feels very vulnerable...
[10:05] :Threei}  OK, just letting it trade
[10:06] :Threei}  gotta allow things to resolve themsekves
[10:06] :Threei}  1:1
[10:06] :Threei}  first partial out
[10:06] :Threei}  stop to .05
[10:07] :ese} mpel stopped .99 -.12
[10:08] :Threei}  1:2 baby
[10:08] :pragmatic} baby indeed
[10:08] :RonS} sheesh just figured out i called dino ese...sorry 'bout that but at least it wasn't les...
[10:08] :Threei}  second part out, stop to .01
[10:08] :Threei}  lol ron
[10:09] :Threei}  Les returns in 2012, he will remember all these jabs... he revenge is going to be terrific
[10:10] :Threei}  target hit
[10:10] :Threei}  me out
[10:10] :RonS} ...tracking for a sohu turn
[10:11] :Threei}  (US) Bank of International Settlements (BIS): Sovereign debt should not carry zero risk; recent rules from the EU have pushed complacency on sovereign debt
[10:12] :RonS} ...go bis
[10:13] :RonS} swiss located but i imagine this is a swiss comment
[10:19] :ese} L mpel .82
[10:29] :cipher} S mpel .80
[10:31] :ese} yup stopped .72-.10
[10:31] :ese} daaaaaaaa
[10:32] :cipher} out .67
[10:32] :cipher} thx ese
[10:33] :ese} L wbsn .01
[10:33] :cipher} was this a good setup?
[10:33] :ese} your welcome.....i got it wrong
[10:33] :dino} sina blood
[10:34] :RonS} commie crackdown on social net
[10:38] :ese} wbsn out 1/2 .27 +.24
[10:38] :cipher} nice one ese
[10:39] :ese} another dino classic
[10:39] :RonS} got wbsn .03 to .30  +.27  thanks ese
[10:39] :ese} for sure....finally got something right this morning
[10:41] :dino} still in wbsn, thx ese
[10:41] :dino} hard stop .25
[10:43] :ese} balance to break even wbsn .02
[10:43] :dino} out wbsn .38, +.35
[10:43] :ese} me as well 1/2 lot still to go
[10:43] :dino} too soon
[10:44] :ese} out .45
[10:44] :Threei}  (UK) BOE's Posen: EU summit will serve to 'kick the can down the road'; QE was correct as GDP would have been negative otherwise - CNBC
[10:45] :ese} +.44 wbsn
[10:45] :Threei}  wtg
[10:45] :ese} good enough
[10:45] :ese} tks
[10:46] :dino} gj
[10:48] :Threei}  no new news... just mass exit
[10:49] :Threei}  market finally believes nthing will transpire today
[10:50] :dino} gaps 11539, 2306, 1215
[10:51] :Threei}  watching FAZ for long on pullback
[10:52] :Threei}  ideally from under .50
[10:53] :Threei}  also,
[10:53] :Threei} Short Setup: SLV  .30 break
[10:53] :Threei}  if stays under .40
[10:53] :Threei}  aggressive entry for much stringer sell signal at .20
[10:56] :Threei}  FAZ didn't give clear entry
[10:57] :Threei}  there was a setup at .70 but not very inspiring
[10:58] :Threei}  watching FAZ again
[10:58] :dino} coh appx gap fill
[10:58] :dino} sm l .75
[11:01] :Threei}  summit starts in about an hour
[11:01] :Threei}  SLV stopped
[11:02] :RonS} ...break out the croissants...
[11:02] :cipher} +14 coh thx dino
[11:02] :RonS} pate' ?
[11:02] :RonS} caviar?
[11:02] :Threei}  but of course
[11:03] :Threei}  after all, it' can be one of their last summits :G}
[11:04] :dino} gj
[11:05] :dino} out coh .38, +.63
[11:05] :Threei}  what a sadly misguided individual:
[11:05] :Threei}  (EU) ECB's Mersch: Will not make comments on ECB purchases of post EFSF bonds; Governing council will make the decisions
[11:05] :Threei}  - Notes that the vacuum on institutional fiscal policy should be filled
[11:05] :Threei}  - Euro area needs an organization to monitor policies of the nations
[11:05] :Threei}  - Highlights the EMU finances are in better shape than the US
[11:05] :Threei}  - Sees need for EFSF to intervene in the markets as soon as possible, and it should be able to help countries sustain their debt
[11:09] :nemo} Hehehehehehe
[11:09] :Threei}  wow
[11:09] :Threei}  look who dropped by
[11:09] :nemo} I'm drunk
[11:09] :Threei}  what else is new?
[11:09] :Threei}  as if we ever see you otherwise
[11:09] :RonS} gee, that's different
[11:09] :ese} MASI worth it dino based on it's news
[11:09] :nemo} Actually it is, I'm celebrating
[11:09] :Threei}  tell uss
[11:10] :nemo} Here comes some work for the janitor
[11:10] :Threei}  ummm
[11:10] :Threei}  he is frowning
[11:10] :nemo} o.k.  I'll tone it down...
[11:10] :ese} too late
[11:10] :patience} go for it nemo
[11:11] :nemo} I PASSED THE FUCKING 56 EXAM!!!!!!
[11:11] :Threei}  wooohooo!
[11:11] :Threei}  congratulations!
[11:11] :nemo} yeah, thank the Gods, going to get live chickens
[11:11] :nemo} after I sober up
[11:11] :nemo} on Sunday
[11:11] :dino} congrats nemo, what is 56 exam?
[11:11] :patience} where is the white wine.....cheers!   good work Nemo
[11:12] :nemo} proprietary traders exam...anybody who trades through a prop firm has to pass it
[11:12] :dino} ahh, gj
[11:12] :patience} does this mean you have to wear a suit to trade with us now?
[11:13] :nemo} Put clothes on to trade, nah...
[11:14] :ese} L mpel .58
[11:15] :Threei} Long Setup:  FAZ  .50 break
[11:15] :Threei}  half lot
[11:16] :Threei}  invalidated for now
[11:18] :Threei}  heh
[11:18] :Threei}  remember guys my beef with Forex trading?
[11:18] :Threei}  that you deal with bank/broker instead of open market?
[11:18] :Threei}  look at this:
[11:18] :Threei}  Bank of New York Company Inc Massachusetts files charges against the company, alleging fraud - financial press
[11:18] :Threei}  - Reminder: As recently as September reports circulated that the Mass. AG has been probing Forex trading by BK and STT; and the NY AG filed a civil suit against Bank of NY Mellon for allegedly defrauding pension funds by purchasing and selling forex at the worst rate traded in the day; with many other states having also filed similiar cases
[11:18] :Threei}  - Note that in April reports circulated that Massachusetts regulators were investigating some forex transactions at State Street
[11:20] :nemo} yeah...guess who did the investigation on this suit
[11:20] :Threei}  who?
[11:21] :larisa} nemo's rabbit :)
[11:21] :nemo} Harry Markopolos, the guy who originally blew the whistle on Madoff.  He lives in my area, was talking to him last Spring, he told me aobut this
[11:21] :nemo} said he had State Street by the short and curlies
[11:22] :nemo} I think Bank of America too
[11:22] :Threei}  cute, larisa :)
[11:22] :Threei}  yeah, I remember the name
[11:22] :Threei}  well, it's about time
[11:23] :Threei}  this Forex bucket shop activity is absolutely incredible to me in that it's aloowed to bloom for so long
[11:31] :Threei}  FAS looked like long to me at .55, but I am really hesitant to go long today
[11:34] :Threei} Long Setup:  FAZ  45 break
[11:35] :Threei}  stop under .85
[11:35] :Threei}  target 1:2 - 1:3
[11:38] :Threei}  1:1
[11:39] :Threei}  play it by the book
[11:39] :Threei}  partial, trail
[11:39] :Threei}  unless you are a scalper
[11:39] :Threei}  in which case:
[11:39] :Threei}  1. you are out
[11:40] :Threei}  2. you are content
[11:40] :Threei}  3. you are worry free
[11:40] :Threei}  4. we hate you
[11:41] :Threei}  scalpers win
[11:42] :dino} out masi .33, +.29 ty ron
[11:44] :RonS} welcome les
[11:45] :RonS} 3i, gs is working long...
[11:47] :RonS} ese look wprt
[11:58] :dino} lol ron
[12:10] :ese} hey ......missed it was on the phone......signing off though cya tomorrow
[12:10] :ese} hey ron
[12:11] :Threei}  take care ese
[12:11] :RonS} cya ese
[12:11] :dino} cya ese
[12:14] :RonS} dino we need to start dogging ctrp...cs came out today and said china is hinting at easing
[12:16] :thomcbell} this FIO been strong all day
[12:17] :dino} on screen
[12:18] :RonS} fio show short interest at 65% of float
[12:19] :RonS} cheap p/e too...
[12:19] :RonS} :D
[12:20] :Threei}  GS
[12:20] :Threei}  ascending triangle
[12:20] :Threei}  broke
[12:20] :Threei}  late typing by a few seconds
[12:21] :Threei}  grrr
[12:21] :Threei}  40 cents
[12:23] :RonS} hearing BP gets permission to drill in the Gulf.
[12:26] :Threei}  (SW) Sweden PM: A final solution for the EMU crisis may not happen today
[12:26] :Threei}  or ever?
[12:26] :Threei}  final sokution for EMU crisis is EMU liquidation
[12:26] :RonS} ..."the dalai...he's a big hitter" (bill murray in caddyshack): http://twitpic.com/76440j
[12:26] :Threei}  as Stalin used to say: no man - no problem
[12:27] :Threei}  (BE) Belgium PM: EFSF's power should be increased significantly beyond the 1T leverage level - comments ahead of EU summit
[12:28] :RonS} ...clarifies that he means the germans need to leverage...
[12:28] :Threei}  who else is there
[12:28] :RonS} flemish?
[12:29] :Threei}  read this line by line and tgell me, do you see a disaster in the makng?
[12:29] :Threei}  (US) Democrats in the Congressional 'super commitee' said to have offered $2.5-3.0T in budget savings over 10 year time period - financial press
[12:29] :Threei}  - Savings to come from revenue hikes and spending cuts, with 50% from each.
[12:29] :Threei}  - Plan includes $300B in stimulus
[12:29] :Threei}  - $400B in cuts to medicare, with 50% worth of benefit cuts and 50% in savings from providers
[12:29] :Threei}  **REMINDER: the Congressional Supercommittee is holding its first public meeting today, with less than four weeks to their deadline for a proposal on Nov 23
[12:29] :RonS} lichtensteinians
[12:29] :Threei}  leprechaurns?
[12:29] :Threei}  hobbits?
[12:29] :RonS} fleas?
[12:30] :Threei}  (EU) Italy PM Berlusconi is said to have met with EU's Van Rompuy and Barroso ahead of the current leaders summit - financial press
[12:30] :RonS} whatever the committee comes w/ it is DOA...
[12:31] :Threei}  Berlusconi: listen folks, there will be too many of us at the summit, and I have just one bottle of this exclusive wine...
[12:31] :Threei}  Van Rompuy and Barroso: oh yes, let's meet before the summit
[12:32] :dino} back in hour or so
[12:32] :RonS} dino look crm...cnbc tilson bash...
[12:32] :Threei}  dino???
[12:32] :Threei}  there is just one bottle of that wine
[12:32] :Threei}  and I am pretty sure Berlusconi didn't have you in mind
[12:37] :patience} slw, nice trader so far today
[12:38] :patience} comex expiry today i think
[12:43] :thomcbell} i sure put the kabash on FIO
[12:45] :Threei}  lol
[12:53] :Threei}  summit started
[12:58] :patience} i am barely awake
[13:03] :nemo} o.k. Bambi whackin' time
[13:09] :Threei}  lol
[13:10] :Threei}  that's what EU summit leaders said going into session
[13:18] :Threei}  come on... no one listens through the keyhole to feed us news?
[13:18] :Threei}  what kind of organization is that
[13:20] :Threei}  BRUSSELS: In what many are hailing as a breakthrough solution to Greeces crippling debt crisis, Greece today offered to repay loans from the European Union nations by giving them a gigantic horse.
[13:20] :Threei}  Finance ministers from sixteen EU nations awoke in Brussels this morning to find that a huge wooden horse had been wheeled into the city center overnight.
[13:20] :Threei}  The horse, measuring several stories in height, drew mixed responses from the finance ministers, many of whom said they would have preferred a cash repayment of the EUs bailout.
[13:21] :Threei}  But German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she welcomed the beautiful wooden horse, adding, What harm could it possibly do?
[13:21] :Threei}  Elsewhere, in a poll about a hypothetical matchup between Rick Perry and Barack Obama, a majority of Perry voters answered, What does hypothetical mean?
[13:32] :RonS} sm l chrw .15
[13:35] :Threei}  (IT) Italy Industry Min: Letter for the EU will not detail economic reforms; Berlusconi to decide timeline and details of reforms
[13:35] :Threei}  andf market takes off on this?
[13:37] :dino} spike
[13:39] :RonS} out chrw .72 +.57
[13:39] :Threei}  wtg
[13:39] :Threei}  (US) Republican 'super committee' member Camp suggests bringing top corporate and individual tax rates to 25% from 35%
[13:39] :Threei}  yeah, that's going to go over just fine
[13:40] :RonS} ty
[13:40] :Threei}  this deadline approaching is another trainwreck ahead
[13:40] :Threei}  (EU) Recent equity market strength attributed to recirculated reports that China and Russia may be considering investing in the SPIV from the EU
[13:41] :Threei}  shrot the hell out of it then
[13:42] :Threei}  what an incredible bs
[13:42] :Threei}  FAZ .50 break long
[13:43] :dino} gj ron
[13:43] :RonS} thanks...needed it
[13:44] :Threei}  stop under .35
[13:44] :Threei}  1:1
[13:44] :Threei}  half out
[13:44] :Threei}  stop to .45
[13:45] :Threei}  scalpers, you know we hate you, right?
[13:45] :Threei}  and they win again
[13:45] :Threei}  anyway, we have what, 4 out of 5 today?
[13:46] :Threei}  with couple nice sizeable wins
[13:46] :patience} definitely a good day so far
[13:47] :Threei}  considering the scale of event taking place today, can't complain
[13:51] :Threei}  EU) EU27 leaders conclude their meeting; EMU17 leaders now begin their summit meeting- Expectations are that the EMU (euro zone) leaders meeting will extend late into the night, perhaps as late as 04:00 local time (22:00ET).
[13:51] :Threei}  hmmm... I'd think it depends on Berlusconi
[13:51] :Threei}  if he brings his bunga bunga party in, we can see a very prolonged session
[13:52] :RonS} ...toga...toga...
[13:53] :RonS} did animal house play over in the ukraine when it came out?
[13:54] :Threei}  *(EU) EMU DRAFT STATEMENT INDICATES THE EFSF LEVERAGE TO BE 'SEVERAL FOLD'; DETAILS TO BE UNVEILED IN NOVEMBER
[13:54] :Threei}  no
[13:56] :dino} they wanted 4t originally
[13:56] :RonS} futes in a chop frenzy
[13:57] :Threei}  let me quote myself from this morning:
[13:57] :Threei}  the market is going to be a football today, punched each every direction by another headline, real or fake or misunderstood or mistyped. Be nimble.
[13:57] :RonS} full 1 point moves in second...both ways
[13:57] :Threei}  - EFSF to have flexibility to employ two models, using SPIV vehicle from the IMF and risk insurance at the same time; other possibilities on the EFSF and its resources are possible through IMF cooperation
[13:58] :Threei}  and, not to be outdone by myself, continuing quoting myself:
[13:58] :Threei}  [09:23] :Threei} get caught on the wrong side today during sharp turn caused by another "news" - the pain can be enormous
[14:00] :Threei}  now, if you look at this bel,ow, it will be obvious to you that all they are trying to do is to find the wrding that wouldn't trigger immediate blowback:
[14:00] :Threei}  (EU) Germany and Spain said to be attempting to "soften" plan for bank capital levels - FT
[14:00] :Threei}  - Germany and Spain are mounting a last-ditch effort to soften the details of Europe's plan to strengthen its banking system, pressing for a broader range of capital to be counted towards the mandatory "temporary buffer" for banks.
[14:00] :Threei}  - European leaders will tell banks to reach a higher 9 per cent threshold of the "highest quality capital." Spain and Germany are reviving objections to the criteria and pushing for other forms of capital, such as hybrid debt, to be included.
[14:00] :Threei}  - Reports now that it would be unlikely that the EU leader statement would differ materially from the EMU draft statement
[14:05] :RonS} faz sm l .20
[14:09] :RonS} out -.10
[14:17] :RonS} rinsed
[14:18] :Threei}  yeah
[14:32] :dino}  idcc sm l .76
[14:34] :RonS} downside in $IDCC attributed to DealReporter saying potential suitors may be in 'holding pattern'
[14:46] :dino} thx
[15:01] :dino} out idcc ave .10, +.34
[15:02] :RonS} gj
[15:02] :dino} ty
[15:03] :dino} too timid today, had more in it
[15:10] :RonS} ha...caught mf .58 to .68 ese size
[15:10] :RonS} too quick to post sorry
[15:11] :dino} nice
[15:14] :RonS} guess will check ou earnings ah since it is 30, snowing and 5" on ground
[15:14] :RonS} out
[15:17] :dino} that sucks
[15:18] :RonS} unusual wet storm from west...good for the winter wheat farmers
[15:21] :RonS} going long mf .74 break
[15:23] :RonS} needs to be w/ volume
[15:23] :RonS} v run into earnings ah
[15:30] :RonS} nuts missed...platform froze and shut down,needed reboot
[15:32] :dino} hate when that happens
[15:33] :dino} gotta hop early, thx all decent day, got lots of help from you guys today
[15:33] :RonS} cya dino
[15:33] :Threei}  take care dino
[15:33] :dino} :D
[15:45] :RonS} hearing merkel and sarkozy meeting bankers tonight
[15:45] :RonS} betting bankers practicing grabbing ankles
[15:46] :Threei}  (EU) Leverage of EFSF program of up to 4 times said to be using a base figure in the range of 250-275B; implying total leverage of approximately 1-1.1T - financial press
[15:46] :Threei}  lol ron
[15:46] :Threei}  that's one funny visual
[15:52] :Threei}  well, that was one weird day
[15:52] :Threei}  happy with our restraint in gandling it
[15:52] :Threei}  handling too
[15:54] :Threei}  amazing thing is, they finished this day (sa far at least) not resolving anything
[15:55] :Threei}  whatever... have a great evening, see you all tomorrow
[16:01] :larisa} bye :)

Tuesday, October 25, 2011

Oct 25 2011

(Participation in the room in real time requires membership)

A bit too whippy trading today - we exchanged jabs with market, winning some and losing some. Then I decided to wait for one final breakdown which just had to come closer to the end of the day and that's when we got out day-fixing trade, TZA long for over 50 cents. Tomorrow promises to be interesting.


Session Time: Tue Oct 25 00:00:00 2011
[09:08] {Threei}  is it a gap down that we see??
[09:09] {Threei}  it can't be...can it?
[09:09] {dino} gm all
[09:09] {dino} wow nflx
[09:09] {Threei}  yeah, what a slaughter
[09:09] {dino} in july it was over 300
[09:10] {Threei}  sic transit gloria mundi
[09:10] {dino} fwiw gaps below dji 11539, 11103; ndx 2335, 2306, 2202; s/p 1238, 1215, 1155
[09:11] {RonS} gm...dated her in high school...
[09:11] {Threei}  Ron :)
[09:11] {Threei}  her - gloria? or transit?
[09:11] {RonS} gloria mundi
[09:12] {RonS} :D
[09:12] {Threei}  ah
[09:12] {RonS} look uis...gap right to resistance
[09:24] {dino} gap 25.40 area
[09:27] {Threei}  going to look at NFLX a little later
[09:27] {Threei}  not at the open
[09:28] {larisa} gm :)
[09:29] {RonS} hearing german govt and opposition party have agreed joint motion on efsf leverage...
[09:30] {Threei}  larisa :)
[09:31] {Threei}  they do it often ron :)
[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .85 break half lot
[09:33] {Threei}  stop under .75
[09:33] {Threei}  target 39.20
[09:33] {Threei}  1:1
[09:33] {Threei}  stop to .79
[09:34] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .95 break
[09:34] {Threei}  FCX, scalpers win
[09:35] {Threei}  SLW 1:1
[09:35] {Threei}  1:2
[09:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .50 break
[09:36] {Threei}  stop under .40
[09:36] {Threei}  no go
[09:37] {dino} 1238 filled
[09:38] {Threei}  wow FCX
[09:39] {dino} chk gap fill
[09:41] {Threei}  a lot of nervousness in the market
[09:41] {RonS} hearing eu meeting cancelled
[09:41] {Threei}  it's almost as if they started suspecting that EU might not come to resolution
[09:42] {Threei}  no, not full meeting
[09:42] {Threei}  only fin ministers
[09:42] {Threei}  summit itself is still scheduled to proceed
[09:42] {Threei}  (UK) UK confirms that Wednesday's Ecofin meeting has been canceled (note that this is the finance minister meeting, not the planned EU summit)
[09:42] {Threei}  **Note: the planned euro zone summit will proceed on Wednesday. A short Ecofin meeting had been scheduled before the euro zone meeting.
[09:43] {Threei}  but if this misunderstood headline is what caused the sharp drop, we just got a preview of what's to come if they throw arms up in the air
[09:47] {dino} whippy
[09:47] {Threei}  very
[09:48] {Threei}  numbers at 10
[09:48] {Threei}  consumer confidence and Richmod Fed manufacturing
[09:57] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .65 break half lot
[09:57] {Threei}  if stays above .50
[09:59] {Threei}  *(US) OCT RICHMOND FED MANUFACTURING INDEX: -6 V -1E
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) OCT CONSUMER CONFIDENCE: 39.8 V 46.0E
[10:03] {Threei}  no go
[10:03] {dino} fcx stop -.16
[10:04] {Threei}  was a few cents from 1:1, really should have just dumped it
[10:04] {Threei}  but iot held so well on negative numers
[10:05] {dino} same
[10:05] {Threei}  was really tempting
[10:08] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .25 break
[10:08] {Threei}  if staysn under .35
[10:10] {patience} good morning
[10:12] {Threei}  patience :)
[10:13] {dino} fcx hl l .45
[10:13] {ese} christ.........good morning
[10:13] {Threei}  ese :)
[10:14] {ese} finally figured out what was wrong with the chart quotes
[10:14] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .40 break
[10:14] {Threei}  if stays under .50
[10:14] {ese} there is an internet time sync function that was not set properly
[10:15] {ese} had to figure it out myself .....those high paid tech goofs at questrade in toronto are still working on it........am gonna see how many days it takes them
[10:15] {Threei}  lol
[10:16] {Threei}  invalidated
[10:16] {RonS} ye olde time synch vortex , eh ese?
[10:17] {Threei}  rofl
[10:17] {ese} I guess thats what it is........
[10:17] {ese} that is funny
[10:17] {Threei}  chronoclastic incundibulum
[10:18] {patience} interesting...now my gdx and hgu trades are working with my tza position instead of opposite
[10:18] {ese} on windows vista all you have to do is click on the clock bottom....click on internet time and click sync.......this is funnier than hell those idiots still can't figure it out
[10:21] {Threei}  wow... SLW was a good two-sided play
[10:21] {dino} out fcx .81, +.36
[10:21] {ese} ya just lookin at that
[10:21] {Threei}  wtg dino
[10:22] {dino} ty for idea
[10:22] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .80 break
[10:22] {Threei}  if stays under .90
[10:22] {ese} nice dino
[10:22] {dino} ty
[10:24] {dino} stop slw -.11
[10:24] {Threei}  no go
[10:24] {Threei}  not delighted
[10:27] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .65 break
[10:27] {Threei}  stop under .50
[10:27] {Threei}  target .90
[10:28] {Threei}  maybe .95
[10:28] {Threei}  two partials
[10:32] {Threei}  offering first half at .78
[10:32] {Threei}  hit
[10:32] {Threei}  stop for the balance to .59
[10:33] {Threei}  shoot me now
[10:33] {Threei}  look at this
[10:33] {Threei}  (US) Obama administration said to be planning to offer new student loan repayment options to help refinance private loans into a Govt program - financial press
[10:33] {Threei}  - Program may lower interest rates
[10:33] {Threei}  offering second half at .93
[10:34] {Threei}  stop trailed to .64
[10:34] {dino} he needs that college vote
[10:34] {Threei}  can't believe this... so transparently political, zero regard for economic realities
[10:35] {Threei}  let's do more of the same crap that got us into this mess, just need to get votes
[10:37] {Threei}  out second half b/e
[10:37] {Threei}  a few cents foolish
[10:39] {RonS} deal for what?...US envoy: Progress in N. Korea talks, but no deal
[10:39] {dino} big money, oil or food, every year same junk
[10:41] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  23 break
[10:42] {RonS} for you ese:  “The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine”  Abraham Lincoln
[10:42] {Threei}  rofl!
[10:44] {Threei}  ig holding above .90
[10:44] {Threei}  if
[10:45] {Threei}  target 1:2
[10:45] {dino} coh hl l .49
[10:46] {ese} slw just carrying ...carrying on
[10:47] {Threei}  look at GLD too
[10:47] {Threei}  feels like this is PM specific move,
[10:47] {patience} today would be classified as a very good day for me
[10:47] {Threei}  prep for AU summit failure
[10:47] {Threei}  which should send up bot PM and USD
[10:47] {Threei}  however strange it may sound
[10:47] {patience} ft report today that italy gov on brink of collapse
[10:48] {Threei}  yes
[10:48] {RonS} ...used to happen every week...
[10:48] {ese} hmmmmmmm.......wife and I are going there spring break.....might not be any country to visit?
[10:49] {Threei}  no one knows at this point ese... whole Europe might be a zone of riots by then
[10:49] {ese} hope not
[10:49] {Threei}  yeah... wouldn't be pretty
[10:50] {RonS} ...but better than going to thailand now...
[10:50] {ese} this buying in precious metals .....maye a good slug coming from those areas
[10:50] {ese} definitely
[10:51] {ese} patience....was that political colapse or economic colapse
[10:52] {RonS} nuts...lvs had me up, rimm took me to b/e
[10:53] {Threei}  same
[10:53] {Threei}  whippy
[10:53] {Threei}  let's take every second trade?
[10:54] {RonS} collapse this government and put patience in charge?
[10:54] {RonS} :D
[10:55] {ese} indeed
[10:55] {patience} http://www.ft.com/home/us
[10:59] {dino} coh stop
[11:00] {RonS} definition of bagholder dino?  strange day when a person beats fcx and gets whipped by coh on great earnings
[11:02] {Threei}  lol
[11:02] {dino} tell me about it. tough day
[11:03] {RonS} lol dgx up 12% on 70% div incr....10 to .17!
[11:03] {RonS} come on...on a $56 stock?
[11:04] {RonS} now gonna yield 1.5%...this market is nuts
[11:05] {ese} dino ...you wern't at HUBG by chance were you
[11:05] {ese} looking at
[11:05] {dino} no
[11:06] {ese} L 1/2 hubg .98
[11:07] {ese} off of 30.00 would have been better......we'll see
[11:07] {dino} ok
[11:08] {ese} stop .65
[11:09] {ese} not following mrkt.........i like that in a women..........errrrrrrr i mean stock
[11:09] {dino} lol
[11:19] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .85 half lot
[11:19] {Threei}  stop under .70
[11:19] {Threei}  target 34.20
[11:21] {ese} in .83
[11:22] {ese} well .84........taking into account the 4 million decimal places after .83
[11:22] {Threei}  lol
[11:22] {ese} out 1/2 .91
[11:23] {ese} stopped on balance .84
[11:23] {ese} hmmmmmmmmmm
[11:23] {ese} tought i was gonna popo up more
[11:23] {Threei}  I still think so
[11:29] {Threei}  sigh
[11:29] {Threei}  not liking today
[11:31] {ese} just keep carrying on...........
[11:32] {ese} HUBG is about to do the same to me ....me thinks
[11:33] {Threei}  my thinking is,
[11:33] {Threei}  having this summit tomorrow, we are probably to see some drastic movement today yet
[11:33] {Threei}  getting it right can be that day-fixng trade
[11:33] {Threei}  and that's what I want to focus on
[11:34] {Threei}  btw, nemo says hello from the woods
[11:34] {RonS} ya, call the guardian and see what the rumour du jour will be
[11:35] {ese} what woods.....where is he?
[11:35] {Threei}  hunting
[11:35] {RonS} is bunny his lead dog?
[11:35] {Threei}  lol
[11:35] {ese} in Africa?
[11:36] {Threei}  unless Massachusets moved to Africa... no
[11:38] {ese} hmmmmmmmmm  Massa..........cre comes to mind
[11:50] {patience} partialled out 1/5th of hgu shares
[11:53] {patience} ese, dcc please
[12:01] {Threei}  market is frozen
[12:03] {Threei}  (EU) Eurogroup's Juncker: Reiterates that the Brussels summit tommorow will make final decisions; solution should not place undue burden on the ECB
[12:04] {Threei}  somehow to me it feels like it's rather: we made a final decision to postpone decision
[12:07] {dino} csh l break.35
[12:22] {Threei}  interesting read:
[12:22] {Threei}  http://www.cnbc.com/id/45031546
[12:27] {dino} pretty much what we are saying vad
[12:27] {Threei}  yes
[13:01] {Threei}  lol, from twitter:
[13:01] {Threei}  I'd be more enthusiastic on the coming Euro bailout but I'm just not crazy about all those heavy cream sauces
[13:09] {RonS} wynn smacks 'em again:  http://tinyurl.com/3rztwv3
[13:13] {Threei}  Wynn is a convert
[13:13] {Threei}  life-long democratic supporter
[13:15] {RonS} converts can be effective:  saul of tarsus, st augustine et al
[13:20] {RonS} lol...Capitalists Seek to Trademark #OWS #Occupy
[13:21] {RonS} http://tinyurl.com/6x2lsmx
[13:24] {Threei}  heh
[13:24] {RonS} crying over here...bored to tears...
[13:24] {Threei}  (IT) Italy center right party leader affirms the coalition will stay together - financial press
[13:24] {Threei}  - Reminder: Earlier reports circulated that political dysfunction was weighing on Italy, and that the govt could break down and out of agreement on various budget issues
[13:25] {RonS} whew...that was close...
[13:25] {Threei}  well, ow that it's ofcially denied we can believe it
[13:25] {Threei}  remember... never believe anything until it's officially denied :)
[13:26] {RonS} ffreakin italians took 50 years to create a country...200 years after everyone else in europe had done it
[13:39] {Threei}  (NV) Netherlands Fin Min: Transaction tax (tobin) should be global in nature; but Netherlands will not block a proposed tax
[13:39] {Threei}  **NOTE: this comment appears to be easing off a more hard line stance against a Tobin tax; on 9/20 the Dutch Fin Min said the Dutch Parliament will never initiate a fiancial transaction tax.
[13:40] {RonS} fslr fizzle
[13:40] {dino}   ceo out
[13:41] {RonS} lol...$FSLR has been renamed to Last Solar
[13:42] {larisa} lol
[13:45] {dino} seriously?
[13:45] {RonS} lol...FLASH - Reed Hastings taking over as CEO of $FSLR
[13:45] {RonS} ...these are jokes people...
[13:46] {dino} lol, ok
[13:55] {dino} hans drop
[14:00] {dino} gap fill
[14:00] {dino} sm l .00
[14:01] {dino} out hans .50, +.50
[14:02] {dino} osis sm l .97 ave
[14:06] {dino} sm l hans .50
[14:07] {dino} out hans .93, +.43
[14:07] {dino} too soon
[14:14] {dino} out osis .29 ave , +.32
[14:16] {Threei}  nice series
[14:16] {Threei}  getting day under control eh?
[14:17] {dino} took awhile
[14:21] {RonS} classic...TZA to acquire $NFLX and $FSLR "accretive, with synergies"
[14:25] {dino} coh sm l .00
[14:28] {RonS} pot smoked
[14:29] {RonS} 5.2 quake hits Japan's Fukushima prefecture - USGS
[14:38] {Threei}  SPY loss of support here is lucrative play
[14:38] {Threei}  can take a few tests
[14:39] {Threei}  successful one will send TZA through the roof
[14:39] {Threei}  so the general idea is TZA .40 break
[14:40] {Threei}  stop placement is probably under .20 - .25
[14:40] {dino} coh stop -.31
[14:40] {Threei}  half lot is the best idea
[14:40] {Threei}  since it can take a few tries
[14:40] {Threei}  treat it as a milk trade
[14:41] {dino} pot gap fill thurs
[14:41] {Threei}  partial out and target 35 and above
[14:44] {Threei}  not this time
[14:44] {dino} news?
[14:45] {dino} coh rinsed
[14:45] {Threei}  not that I see
[14:51] {swill} Vad, I got 0.11 on tza. Am happy with that
[14:53] {Threei}  cool
[14:53] {Threei}  I just need to keep my expectations low today
[14:54] {swill} me too
[14:58] {RonS} holy smokes...record high yesterday...4-8 inches of snow expected tonight and tomorrow
[14:58] {Threei}  ??
[14:58] {Threei}  you serious?
[14:58] {RonS} yep
[14:58] {Threei}  wow
[15:18] {dino} fslr-15
[15:20] {RonS} wants 40 break or 0, can't tell which...
[15:22] {RonS} who needs trainwrecks?
[15:27] {dino} sm l osis .76
[15:30] {Threei}  this drop just must happen today
[15:31] {Threei}  my gut is screaming it has to
[15:31] {dino} mine the other way, doesn't feel real
[15:31] {dino} hows volume?
[15:31] {RonS} lol...the runup flet real, eh?
[15:32] {RonS} felt
[15:32] {dino} no
[15:32] {dino} good point
[15:32] {Threei}  hehe
[15:32] {Threei}  volume is higher than yesterday's
[15:32] {dino} none of it feels real since june
[15:33] {RonS} ain't that the truth...
[15:35] {RonS} 3i, we need some recruiting around here:  http://tinyurl.com/69okdhm
[15:36] {Threei}  if I only knew how to recruit... :)
[15:36] {RonS} lol
[15:37] {dino} out osis ave .06, +.30
[15:37] {RonS} gj
[15:37] {dino} ty
[15:38] {RonS} must be a rocket scientist:  Art Cashin Sees Risk for Recent Rally
[15:38] {Threei}  rofl
[15:40] {Threei}  http://caracommunity.com/content/bill-caras-blog-oct-25-2011#comment-98451
[15:45] {Threei}  ok
[15:45] {Threei}  trying TZA again
[15:45] {Threei}  breakdown in SPY must be near
[15:45] {Threei}  took .67
[15:46] {Threei}  stop under .50
[15:46] {Threei}  want over 35
[15:51] {Threei}  brrrreakdown time
[15:52] {Threei}  out first partial .89
[15:53] {dino} gj
[15:53] {Threei}  let's take this 35
[15:53] {Threei}  about time, eh dino? LOL
[15:53] {Threei}  stop to .65
[15:53] {Threei}  next partail target is 35.09
[15:56] {Threei}  move your butt TZA
[15:56] {Threei}  5 cents more
[15:56] {dino} 2335 filled
[15:57] {Threei}  out second part
[15:57] {Threei}  next and last target is .35
[15:57] {swill} gj
[15:58] {Threei}  ty
[15:58] {Threei}  I knew I had it in me today... it was just buried a bit deeper than usual
[15:59] {swill} true
[16:01] {larisa} bye :)
[16:02] {swill} thank you
[16:02] {Threei}  have a good evening guys, see you tomorrow
[16:03] {dino} thx all, gn
[16:03] {Threei}  almost missed final bell, lol
[16:04] {Threei}  got too involved into last trade, lost sense of time