Session Time: Fri May 09 00:00:01 2014
[08:46] {thomcbell} gm
01[08:52] {@Threei} morning thom
[09:02] {Phil} gm all
01[09:03] {@Threei} phil :)
[09:08] {dino} gm
01[09:09] {@Threei} dino :)
[09:10] {RonS} good morning gents
[09:11] {thomcbell} dino put ubnt on your radar
01[09:11] {@Threei} ron :)
[09:11] {thomcbell} think this one might be overdone
[09:12] {dino} on it
[09:13] {thomcbell} they met earnings
[09:13] {thomcbell} now valuation is pretty reasonable at 22x
[09:13] {thomcbell} but........
[09:14] {troub} good morning you all
01[09:14] {@Threei} troub :)
[09:18] {RonS} thom, the ubnt 5 yr daily shows a volume pocket below 30 down to 20, then 14 and 12...pretty scary imo but there is a 21% of float short
[09:21] {thomcbell} thanks
[09:21] {dino} its just a general tech wreck, destroy them no matter what the earnings
[09:22] {Alexs} gm
01[09:22] {@Threei} alex :)
[09:22] {dptl} good morning
01[09:22] {@Threei} dp :)
[09:23] {dino} almost feels like a few tech/momo hedgies are in trouble, dumping shares
01[09:24] {@Threei} that's most likely what happens
[09:30] {thomcbell} too scary ubnt
01[09:30] {@Threei} Long Setup: TZA .70 break
01[09:30] {@Threei} If holds .60
[09:31] {ese} gm
01[09:31] {@Threei} ese :)
01[09:32] {@Threei} tighten to .64
[09:32] {thomcbell} wow ubnt dino
01[09:33] {@Threei} out
01[09:33] {@Threei} Short Setup: FB .80 break hl
01[09:33] {@Threei} If holds .90
01[09:34] {@Threei} stubborn
01[09:35] {@Threei} nope
[09:35] {dino} tbell, careful w/it, techs getting crushed
[09:35] {thomcbell} im out
[09:35] {thomcbell} i made money in it now gone
[09:36] {dino} 3 day rule these
[09:38] {thomcbell} watching syna for short setup
[09:40] {thomcbell} too wide on syna
01[09:41] {@Threei} Long Setup: P .10 break
01[09:41] {@Threei} If holds 22
01[09:43] {@Threei} valid
[09:43] {thomcbell} panw looking for a short setup
[09:43] {thomcbell} chart is scary
01[09:44] {@Threei} Invalidated
01[09:45] {@Threei} shrug
[09:48] {dino} bcei sm l .50
[09:49] {dino} yy sm l .35
[09:50] {thomcbell} i shorted panw small on that spike
[09:50] {thomcbell} horrid action
[09:51] {dino} fb sm l .00
[09:51] {dino} panw and data ranging 5 pts last few days
[09:52] {thomcbell} out
[09:54] {dino} out fb .45, +.45
[09:56] {dino} out yy .57, +1.22
01[09:57] {@Threei} Long Setup: IWM .70 break
01[09:58] {@Threei} If holds .60
01[09:58] {@Threei} 1:1
01[09:58] {@Threei} 1:2
01[10:02] {@Threei} Long Setup: TZA 65 break
01[10:02] {@Threei} If holds .55
01[10:05] {@Threei} stop to .59
01[10:06] {@Threei} what the deuce
01[10:06] {@Threei} not liking this morning
[10:08] {nemo} kinda' reminds me of Les's thinking
[10:09] {Alexs} Dr Dre - Hip Hop's first Billionaire ( Celebrates With Tyrese ).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2e5ZibypDk
[10:12] {dino} vwap holding bcei
01[10:19] {@Threei} Long Setup: TWTR 33 break hl
01[10:19] {@Threei} If holds .90
01[10:22] {@Threei} stop .94
[10:22] {RonS} needed to get back to rehab?
[10:24] {joomlab} What does everyone think of GNVC?
[10:24] {ese} not bad for having no talent
[10:29] {dino} nothing
01[10:30] {@Threei} Eastern Ukraine's vote as a key moment
01[10:30] {@Threei} must be a joke
[10:30] {ese} i'll say
01[10:31] {@Threei} as if there is any doubt in the result... I predict 89%
01[10:31] {@Threei} they made it 93% in Crimea, gotta do a little lower here
01[10:33] {@Threei} Short Setup: CAT .65 break
01[10:33] {@Threei} If holds .75
[10:33] {Alexs} in fact new ukrainian government does nothing to change that situation
[10:34] {Phil} thing is, staying part of Ukraine is going to mean tough times ahead.. with the IMF imposing austerity and the raise in energy costs, I wouldn't blame them for wanting to go the other way
01[10:34] {@Threei} that's true but referndum result has not much to do with it
[10:34] {Phil} I think a couple of years down the line, the western Ukrainians may be thinking they made the wrong choice
01[10:35] {@Threei} there will be any number dictated from Putin's office
01[10:35] {@Threei} all real polls show majority wanting to stay united Ukraine
[10:36] {Alexs} who makes the real polls Vad?
01[10:36] {@Threei} quite a few of them were set by many organizations
01[10:37] {@Threei} most of them impartial and credible
[10:37] {Alexs} who's going to eastern ukraine currently to make a polls?
01[10:38] {@Threei} over last 2 month, at least dozen was done
01[10:38] {@Threei} I can find them if you want
01[10:39] {@Threei} and this government if you can call it that... they can't really do much
01[10:39] {@Threei} their own army doesn't obey them
01[10:39] {@Threei} total disarray everywhere
[10:41] {Alexs} it's like russians blame america for everything, the same way do ukrainians: blame russians for all their problems
[10:42] {Alexs} and nobody do the real job
01[10:42] {@Threei} true, they elected one thief afdter another for 20 years
01[10:42] {@Threei} but at this point they are under attack
[10:46] {Alexs} the new prime minister spends all the time in europe even visits Vatican for Canonization he doesn't have a time to fight the attack
01[10:47] {@Threei} have you seen him?? :)
01[10:47] {@Threei} geek who for the first time in his life suddenly got 5 min a fame
[10:47] {ese} I don't think cannons are gonna cut it against modern armour and nuclear arsenals
[10:48] {Alexs} ese who's gonna use nuclear arsenals?
[10:49] {ese} Russians of course.....there stupid enough
[10:49] {Alexs} lol ese
[10:49] {dino} fb sm l .88
[10:49] {dptl} lol...man...
[10:50] {Alexs} I hope you are not serious ese
[10:50] {dptl} no more vodka for you Ese...lol
[10:50] {ese} lol
01[10:50] {@Threei} ese... Putin has two daughters who live in Germany. Think he is about to start bombing Berlin?
01[10:52] {@Threei} alex, have a look at the latest of polls: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/05/08/new-poll-shows-eastern-ukraines-separatists-are-wrong/?tid=pm_world_pop
[10:52] {ese} Really......two daughters who live internationally and he's dumb enough to do what he's doing......OK Alexis...i can now answer that question....ya he's stupid enough to do it
01[10:53] {@Threei} how is he stupid?
01[10:53] {@Threei} he is getting everything he wants, and no one is capable to stop him
[10:53] {ese} that doesn't mean he's smart vad
01[10:53] {@Threei} have a look ese: http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/bloomberg-russias-exports-unhindered-by-putins-incursion-into-ukraine-347106.html
01[10:54] {@Threei} even russia's exports are untouched by "sanctions"
01[10:54] {@Threei} west continues financing him
01[10:54] {@Threei} who is tupid, tell me?
[10:56] {ese} a man with complete disregard for the sovernty of another country.....convince me that thats smart......at best half wit intelligence
01[10:57] {@Threei} you really are using words "evil" and stupid" interchangeably, aren't you?
[10:58] {ese} ya maybe
[10:58] {RonS} Obama has no regard for the sovereignty of the US...so is he in that camp?
[10:59] {ese} in another life he could/can be a serial killer
01[10:59] {@Threei} ok... can serial killer be smart?
[10:59] {ese} no feelings....no sense of right or wrong
[10:59] {dino} sure
[11:00] {dino} doesn't mean he's dumb
01[11:00] {@Threei} I am just trying to understand how putin can be stupid, when the whole world so far dances to his tune :)
[11:00] {dino} guy is getting what he wants
[11:01] {dino} i agree w/you vad
[11:01] {dino} stupid ones are the ones who let him get away w/it
01[11:01] {@Threei} exactly
[11:01] {ese} well there just as stupid for sure
01[11:01] {@Threei} with all the military and economic might, a guy with sharp elbows keeps them all at bay
[11:01] {ese} their
01[11:02] {@Threei} I'd say, he outmaneuvered them all by factor 10
[11:02] {dino} ese, just because some "feel" differently than liberals does not make them stupid
[11:03] {dino} actions, not talk, rule the world
[11:03] {Alexs} Vad Pew Research methods in detail http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/05/08/methods-in-detail/
01[11:04] {@Threei} anything's wrong with them?
[11:04] {Alexs} 1600 people in 13 ukrainian cities you can get any results and it will not be real
01[11:05] {@Threei} they show pretty much the same results as about 10 others over last 2 months
01[11:07] {@Threei} Long Setup: P .10 break
01[11:07] {@Threei} If holds 22
[11:07] {Alexs} I think if somebody wants a real results they need to make a real referendum under international supervision
01[11:08] {@Threei} that's not what is going to take place on this Sun
[11:08] {ese} thats true dino can't deny that.....
01[11:08] {@Threei} this resuklt is predetermined
[11:10] {Alexs} yes but it's result of international comunity doesn't want to have a real referendum
01[11:10] {@Threei} why would they? this is not a federation
01[11:11] {@Threei} orovinces to not have right to separate per Ukraine constitution
[11:11] {RonS} ...just send in Jimmy Carter
[11:11] {Alexs} of course it's better to have a war
01[11:12] {@Threei} unlike Russian btw... and look what happened to one who wanted to separate
01[11:12] {@Threei} no,i i'ts better not to invade sovereign country
01[11:12] {@Threei} you don't really think it's locals who initiate all this unrest?
[11:13] {Alexs} honestly I don't know Vad I don't trust anybody in this conflict
[11:14] {RonS} sheesh, their talking snow for Mother's Day
01[11:14] {@Threei} well, I have enough friends in many of the cities in the middle of all this
01[11:14] {@Threei} you sare kidding Ron
[11:14] {RonS} wonder how many thought you were dumb for leaving 3i...
01[11:15] {@Threei} lol... nah, not many :)
[11:15] {ese} am outa here....have a great weekend all.
01[11:16] {@Threei} take care ese
[11:16] {ese} cya vad.....hope the people you know over there are all right
01[11:16] {@Threei} some are... some are not
[11:16] {RonS} how did you get into Canada?...always heard it has relatively tough immigration laws
01[11:16] {@Threei} it's difficult to be all right in Gorlovka right now
01[11:17] {@Threei} imagine, you walk out of your apartment to get some bread in the corner store - there a frikin tank on the street
01[11:17] {@Threei} that's a Hollywood story Ron...
[11:17] {ese} can't imagine that......take care
[11:19] {RonS} omg just looked in the dictionary for the definition of a liberal: it was posted with a picture of ese :)
01[11:19] {@Threei} lol
01[11:19] {@Threei} in two words (and it's going to be considerably more, but as brief as possible)
[11:19] {_rcford} nice onP
01[11:20] {@Threei} 1/2 p
01[11:20] {@Threei} 1:2 P
01[11:20] {@Threei} ran my own business in Ukraine from 1987,
01[11:20] {@Threei} from the first days of perestroika
01[11:21] {@Threei} in 1990s mafia started appearing,
01[11:21] {@Threei} in a few years they started uniting with corrupted police
01[11:21] {@Threei} so situation became really unbearable,
01[11:21] {@Threei} leaving you with choices:
01[11:22] {@Threei} 1. mafia will kill you
01[11:22] {@Threei} 2. police will jail you
01[11:22] {@Threei} 3. You became one of them
[11:22] {RonS} understand all that, the q is how and why did Canada let you in?
01[11:22] {@Threei} none left me delighted,
01[11:23] {@Threei} so I contacted a guy from our city, business friend, who immigrated to Canada a year before with help of relative living there for many years
01[11:24] {@Threei} and we started a project - exhibition of Ukrainian companies in Toronto.
01[11:24] {@Threei} He organized canadian side, I did ukrainian.
01[11:24] {@Threei} That project gave me multuple entry business visa
01[11:25] {@Threei} and being in Canada, I applied to business class immigration.
01[11:25] {@Threei} Canadian security started investigating my background
01[11:25] {@Threei} and it took 3 years
01[11:26] {@Threei} meanwhile, I lived in Canada with guest status,
01[11:26] {@Threei} no right tio work, not right for kids to attend school.
01[11:26] {@Threei} so the only thing I could do was to tarde
01[11:26] {@Threei} trade
[11:26] {RonS} wow...good deal...thanks for sharing
01[11:27] {@Threei} in 3 years CSIS finished their investigation
01[11:27] {@Threei} said I was no a mafia
01[11:27] {@Threei} still, my imigrant status was conditional
01[11:28] {@Threei} and it took 2 more years to fulfill all the conditions
[11:28] {RonS} ...until you could sing Oh Canada?
01[11:28] {@Threei} that toomk a year more, to gain citizenship :)
[11:28] {troub} they didn't require accurate typing skill?
[11:28] {RonS} lol
01[11:29] {@Threei} thank goodness, no
01[11:29] {@Threei} that I'd fail for sure
01[11:29] {@Threei} here is some light reading for your entertainment:
01[11:29] {@Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/freechapters.html#chapter1
01[11:29] {@Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/freechapters.html#chapter2
01[11:38] {@Threei} 1:3
01[11:38] {@Threei} out
01[11:38] {@Threei} finally something worls
01[11:38] {@Threei} works too
01[11:39] {@Threei} Alex... to sum it up briefly
01[11:40] {@Threei} I have zero sympathy to the guys who ran Ukraine for all this time, and run it now
01[11:40] {@Threei} but all the problems country have are its problems, Russia's aggression can not be justified by them
01[11:41] {@Threei} this whole unrest is entirely russian creation
01[11:41] {@Threei} and country will be broken up as a result of it, while the world looks on
01[11:42] {@Threei} despite guarantees given to Ukraine in 1994 in exchange for its nukes
[11:42] {Alexs} 100% agree that russian agression can not be justified
[11:42] {dino} azn drop
01[11:42] {@Threei} and the world will be much worse for it,
01[11:43] {@Threei} because the message to alll the bad guys is clear
[11:43] {dino} azn smr l .50
01[11:43] {@Threei} don't trust agreements and gusrantees, don't give up your nukes
01[11:43] {@Threei} and be bold - west has no guts to enforce its own rules if you just go ahead and do it.
[11:44] {dino} out azn .65, +1.15
01[11:44] {@Threei} wtg
[11:44] {Alexs} but when you say the whole unrest is entirely russian creation, here it comes again, when they think like that it doesn't help ukranians
[11:44] {dino} ty
01[11:44] {@Threei} but it is
01[11:45] {@Threei} it's russian commandos who organize the crews taking over buildings
[11:45] {Alexs} ok what ukranians do to resolve the situation?
01[11:46] {@Threei} send troops
[11:46] {Alexs} lol
01[11:46] {@Threei} what else can they do?
01[11:46] {@Threei} some immediately turn to russian side
01[11:46] {@Threei} some fight
01[11:46] {@Threei} what would you do?
[11:47] {Alexs} it doesn't work
01[11:47] {@Threei} pieces of the country are being yanked from under them
01[11:47] {@Threei} no it doesn't
01[11:47] {@Threei} 20 years of rampant corruption left people cynical
01[11:47] {@Threei} not trusting anyone
[11:47] {Alexs} they should forget that their country is not a federation and make a real referendum
01[11:48] {@Threei} real referndum is not being organized in a week
[11:48] {Alexs} under strict supervision
01[11:48] {@Threei} not under machine guns
01[11:48] {@Threei} it requires peace and time
[11:48] {Alexs} yes but they don't want to agree to make the real one
01[11:48] {@Threei} they have neither
01[11:48] {@Threei} you think if they agree Putin will pull out?
01[11:48] {@Threei} lol
01[11:49] {@Threei} he is determined to resolve this now
[11:49] {Alexs} I don't care about Putin
01[11:49] {@Threei} he won't wait for a year
[11:50] {Alexs} if they agree to make a referendum he will not have something to say
01[11:50] {@Threei} but it's because of his actions they have no time or peace to organize anything real
01[11:50] {@Threei} he is not saying anything... he is tearing country apart
01[11:50] {@Threei} not waiting for it to consolidate
[11:51] {Alexs} but they have time to make election
01[11:51] {@Threei} to gain EU memebrship
[11:51] {dino} putin has disrupters in place no matter the outcome
01[11:51] {@Threei} I don't see what they can do to stop him alex
[11:51] {thomcbell} pva - 16 long break if holding 15.96
01[11:52] {@Threei} they may promise any referendums or whatever, he simply won't stop until he gets what he wants
[11:52] {thomcbell} invalidated - still watching
[11:53] {Alexs} they made a first mistake when they decided to make election in May and don't want to change anything now
01[11:53] {@Threei} when should they have election?
01[11:53] {@Threei} why May is worse than anything else?
[11:54] {Alexs} because you have that situation now
01[11:54] {@Threei} that date was set right after Yanukovish ousting
[11:54] {Alexs} it was stupid
01[11:54] {@Threei} what will change if they cancel election?
01[11:54] {@Threei} it's totally irrelevant
[11:56] {Alexs} I don't agree you can't make a presidential election in 3 month in any civilized country
[11:56] {Alexs} it's like referendum in Crimea no difference
01[11:57] {@Threei} that wasn't your normal election... snap election can be much faster
01[11:57] {@Threei} country shouldn't remain wiothout legitimate elected government for too long
[11:57] {Alexs} lol Vad not in that situation
01[11:58] {@Threei} but it's not even the point... if that was september, what would it change?
01[11:58] {@Threei} what's the difference?
01[11:58] {@Threei} would Putin not do what he did?
[11:59] {Alexs} you know Vad it's easy to blame putin for everything but it won't help
01[11:59] {@Threei} I don't
01[11:59] {@Threei} I blame him for this invasion
01[11:59] {@Threei} the rest is ukraine's pown fault
01[11:59] {@Threei} own
01[12:00] {@Threei} but right now, this invasion is what tears the country apart
[12:00] {Alexs} ok it's a fact they should move on
01[12:00] {@Threei} and I don't see how election timing has anything to do with it
01[12:00] {@Threei} move on where?
01[12:01] {@Threei} you are running Ukraine right now, what do you do?
[12:01] {Alexs} try to negotiate
[12:01] {Alexs} sending troops doesn't help
01[12:01] {@Threei} negotiate what? Russia doesn't speak to you
01[12:02] {@Threei} they don't want to make peace with you
01[12:02] {@Threei} they eant to break your country by piecers
[12:02] {Alexs} I mean negotiate with eastern Ukraine people first of all
01[12:02] {@Threei} there is no one to negotiate with
01[12:02] {@Threei} there is "people's governor"
[12:02] {_rcford} TOUR
01[12:03] {@Threei} installed by Russia
01[12:03] {@Threei} with instructuins to set referndum
01[12:03] {@Threei} and finish it with 89%
[12:03] {Alexs} ok that's a position that killing Ukraine right now
01[12:03] {@Threei} who are you going to negotiate with?
[12:04] {cosmo} the bankers?
[12:05] {Alexs} have you seen somebody from ukrainian presidential candidates went to eastern ukraine to talk to the people?
01[12:06] {@Threei} yes, but what do you mean by "people"?
01[12:07] {@Threei} you can't talk to 4 million living in Donetsk province'
01[12:07] {@Threei} who exactly will you talk to?
01[12:07] {@Threei} there is governor
01[12:07] {@Threei} there is "people's governor"
01[12:07] {@Threei} one is helpless
01[12:07] {@Threei} another doesn't want to talk to you
[12:08] {Alexs} who tried
01[12:08] {@Threei} Tymoshenko
[12:08] {Alexs} lol
01[12:09] {@Threei} who is not "lol"?
01[12:09] {@Threei} they are all the same
01[12:09] {@Threei} front-runner is not much different from her
[12:09] {Alexs} of course he is in Germany currently
01[12:10] {@Threei} but whoever it is, the question remains: who are you going to talk to?
01[12:10] {@Threei} walk on the Artema street with megaphone?
[12:11] {Alexs} wnen you are sitting in Germany two weeks to elections and think there's nobody to talk in Ukaine...
[12:12] {thomcbell} ubnt testing the low
[12:12] {thomcbell} what a wild one
01[12:12] {@Threei} well, as I asked... [12:01] {@Threei} you are running Ukraine right now, what do you do?
01[12:12] {@Threei} :)
[12:13] {dino} ubnt gap around 21, but thats a ways away
[12:13] {dino} maybe 30 strike area worth bid
[12:13] {Alexs} go to all the people even "people's governors" and talk to them
01[12:14] {@Threei} we've been over that already
01[12:14] {@Threei} the guy is under direct orders
01[12:14] {@Threei} he is not going to talk to anyone, he is there to fulfill his task
01[12:14] {@Threei} he has no power to decide anything for anyone
[12:15] {Alexs} ok Vad it's better to travel around Europe and think like that
01[12:15] {@Threei} you misunderstand alex..
01[12:15] {@Threei} better or not, it doesn;'t matter
01[12:15] {@Threei} they are powerless to do anything
01[12:15] {@Threei} they have no military power to resist, and no one wants to help them. End of story
[12:16] {dino} russia will do as it pleases because they know that nobody will stop them
01[12:16] {@Threei} right
01[12:16] {@Threei} let me tell you however what those who are prepared to do something, will actually do
[12:16] {dino} obummer showed them that in syria
01[12:16] {@Threei} when territory is taken over by Russia, partisan war will start
01[12:16] {@Threei} just like in WW2
01[12:17] {@Threei} that is being organized as we speak
[12:18] {Alexs} Russia won't invade eastern Ukraine, if Putin wanted he would do it already
01[12:18] {@Threei} and not from above... that's grass root resistance
[12:19] {Alexs} he knows that guerilla war will kill him
01[12:19] {@Threei} if not overtly, how will you call the "referendum," then separation, then union with Russia?
01[12:19] {@Threei} isn't it invasion by other means?
01[12:20] {@Threei} Crimea was easy thanks to geography and demographics... Eastern Ukraine is tougher and larger, thus means are different
[12:21] {Alexs} if somebody wants a real referendum they find out what toask a right way
01[12:21] {@Threei} but the goal is the same - be in union with us, not with EU, and be weak
01[12:22] {@Threei} Long Setup: DAL .40 break
[12:22] {Alexs} who's goal?
01[12:22] {@Threei} If holds .30
01[12:22] {@Threei} russia's
[12:23] {Alexs} ukrainians need to start thinking about their goals
01[12:23] {@Threei} for that they need invasion to stop
01[12:23] {@Threei} what goals when country ceases to exist in front of your eyes?
01[12:24] {@Threei} listen to this:
01[12:24] {@Threei} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag4_Dm2YdgU
[12:24] {Alexs} I bet russia won't invade
01[12:24] {@Threei} it did already
01[12:24] {@Threei} via commandos
[12:26] {Alexs} there was a lot of people killed, did they find one russian commando?
01[12:26] {@Threei} come on
[12:26] {Alexs} I diddn't hear about it
01[12:26] {@Threei} you don't really watch it closely, do you
[12:26] {Alexs} show me the link Vad
01[12:26] {@Threei} Igor Strelkov?
01[12:27] {@Threei} name tells you anything?
01[12:27] {@Threei} phone conversations after shootout under Slavyansk?
[12:28] {Alexs} so what in that conversations?
01[12:28] {@Threei} one is above
01[12:29] {@Threei} another, I'll see if I can find... but really, there are dozens of them
[12:30] {troub} DAL valid?
[12:30] {_rcford} Twtr
01[12:30] {@Threei} DAL, yes
01[12:32] {@Threei} there you go Alex, start at 3:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKElv2p3oS4
01[12:35] {@Threei} 1:1
01[12:39] {@Threei} 1:2
01[12:39] {@Threei} day starts fixing itself
[12:40] {thomcbell} Stupid pva worked
[12:42] {dino} out fb .32, +.50
01[12:42] {@Threei} gj
[12:46] {dino} ty
[12:47] {thomcbell} rrc looks like it might bean 87.89 short break if holding 88
[12:49] {nathan} hi gents
01[12:49] {@Threei} hey nathan
[12:51] {thomcbell} rrc no go
[12:54] {Alexs} I looked the link Vad, I'm sure that you can see a lot of that kind of things about ukrainans on russian propaganda, like Timoshenko conversations
[12:54] {Alexs} she just said she didn't said that
01[12:55] {@Threei} I am not sure what your point is... are you seriously saying there are no russian instigators in Ukraine and whole uprising is entirely done by locals?
[12:56] {Alexs} No, I'm sure there are a lot of russian istignators in Ukraine now
01[12:56] {@Threei} that's my point
[12:56] {Alexs} but it's not a real invasion
01[12:57] {@Threei} it absolutely is
01[12:57] {@Threei} they stage fake referendum,
01[12:57] {@Threei} they ask Putin for help
01[12:57] {@Threei} and he can enter "per law"
01[12:58] {@Threei} since it's not a sovereign state anymore that doesn't want him
01[12:58] {@Threei} if you under impression somehow that I am sympathetic to any of ukrainian figures, it's a wrong impression
01[12:58] {@Threei} some of the names you can see in media I know personally
[12:58] {Alexs} Do you remember Sashko Biliy from right sector he fought in Chechnya against russians so: was it ukrainian invasion
01[12:59] {@Threei} believe me, they are very very unpleasant guys
01[12:59] {@Threei} and gals
01[12:59] {@Threei} come one... he was there on a personal mission, these guys are coordinated from Kremlin
01[12:59] {@Threei} that's a world of difference
01[13:01] {@Threei} gas princess Tymoshenko, sheesh... probably second most corrupted after Yanukovich
01[13:01] {@Threei} and was first before he became president
[13:02] {Alexs} I wouldn't bet so sure about 'right sector' in ukraine, that that guys on a personal missions
01[13:02] {@Threei} you mean Kiev sent them to Chechnya?? :)
01[13:02] {@Threei} that would mean ukrainian invasion
01[13:03] {@Threei} otherwise, it's him... or his right sector
[13:03] {Alexs} I don't know I just say I'm not sure
01[13:03] {@Threei} DAL...
01[13:03] {@Threei} .60 break, looks tempting
01[13:03] {@Threei} let's do hl this time
01[13:05] {@Threei} Long Setup: DAL .60 break hl
01[13:05] {@Threei} If holds .50
[13:05] {Alexs} you also can't make a definite conclusions just on youtube
[13:12] {Alexs} what I wanted to say that ukrainians should try to resolve the situation by dialogs and negotiations if they just think that Putin won and nothing they cand it's bad for them
[13:13] {Alexs} cand = can do
[13:18] {dptl} have a good weekend all...see ya monday
01[13:18] {@Threei} take care dp
01[13:34] {@Threei} meh
01[13:35] {@Threei} watching TZA for pullback
01[13:43] {@Threei} Long Setup: TZA .30 break
01[13:43] {@Threei} If holds .20
[13:48] {dino} grub drop
[13:49] {RonS} someone drop the plate?
[13:49] {RonS} step on the bug?
[13:49] {dino} sm l .99
[13:53] {nathan} c'mon tza!
[13:53] {dino} out grub .40 ave, +.41
[13:53] {RonS} gj
[13:53] {dino} ty
[13:54] {nathan} gj
[13:55] {dino} ty
[14:00] {nathan} dino do you ever trade tza, dal,...? or just this trades with this big spreads?
[14:03] {dino} tza, tna, vxx sure. dal if it fits my edge. i will trade anything as long as it fits my edge
[14:04] {dino} most of my trades come from 07 scanner, but if scanners are dead, i go over to other stuff
[14:04] {nathan} ok
[14:05] {dino} tbell ubnt going for 30s
[14:06] {thomcbell} big volume there at 31 level
[14:07] {thomcbell} should have shorted the raymond james defense
[14:07] {thomcbell} its looking like a 25 dollar stock
[14:07] {dino} gap around 22
[14:08] {thomcbell} nice miss on this one today
[14:09] {dino} tech wreck brutal. 25% drop on confirm
[14:11] {thomcbell} and it didnt have the nosebleed valuations of some
[14:11] {thomcbell} of the rest of them - feye etc
[14:13] {dino} no mercy
01[14:14] {@Threei} die already SPY
[14:14] {Alexs} SPY waaited for your order VAD :)
01[14:15] {@Threei} ahhh
01[14:15] {@Threei} if I knew I'd give it sooner
01[14:15] {@Threei} half out
[14:15] {Alexs} you did it many times
01[14:16] {@Threei} City Of Victoria City Hall has been evacuated as police investigate a suspicious package
01[14:16] {@Threei} hmmm... is this why ese left early?
[14:16] {RonS} old fish in wrapper?
[14:16] {nathan} lol
01[14:17] {@Threei} probably not, or this guy would wear gas mask: http://goo.gl/TpxkZ2
01[14:17] {@Threei} 1:1
[14:21] {Alexs} judging by that guy it's just a postal package
01[14:21] {@Threei} not likely, it was taped to a mailbox
01[14:21] {@Threei} kind of unusual way to deliver :)
[14:22] {nathan} dino TEVA
[14:22] {nathan} is that a spike 4 u?
[14:24] {dino} too slow, need fast drop, straight down
[14:32] {_rcford} DRL wow
[14:36] {goinshort} V you still like TZA?
01[14:36] {@Threei} can't tell
01[14:36] {@Threei} lost chart configuration
01[14:36] {@Threei} Short Setup: FB .50 break
01[14:36] {@Threei} If holds .60
01[14:38] {@Threei} Invalidated
01[14:38] {@Threei} for now
01[14:47] {@Threei} Short Setup: P .60 break
01[14:47] {@Threei} If holds .65
[14:48] {thomcbell} ubnt have a chance here dino with your methodology
[14:48] {thomcbell} vwap much higher
[14:48] {thomcbell} or is it roadkill
[14:49] {dino} don't know seems to just be a slow grind lower.
[14:49] {dino} trigger imo is break .00
[14:49] {dino} most likely not playing it today
[14:49] {nathan} well gents, have a nice weekend
[14:49] {nathan} had enough for today
01[14:49] {@Threei} have a good one nathan
[14:49] {nathan} see you on monday
01[14:50] {@Threei} P just start working
[14:50] {thomcbell} im long it small
01[14:51] {@Threei} or not
[14:51] {RonS} only 8 blocks traded ubnt 195k shares...need some big guys to capitulate...thinkin this goes sub 30 to trigger stops on Monday...if it re-catures maaybe long but looks like fast down to 25, pause then 20
[14:59] {thomcbell} i agree
[14:59] {thomcbell} lack of blocks was a concern
[14:59] {thomcbell} how did u get the blocks info
[14:59] {RonS} on my quote section
[14:59] {RonS} always
[15:00] {thomcbell} on what system?
[15:00] {RonS} like to see blocks that are goldilocks...not too small, not too big
[15:00] {RonS} Fidelity
01[15:01] {@Threei} thom, right click on T&S
01[15:01] {@Threei} Filter
01[15:01] {@Threei} show only sales with Qty
01[15:02] {@Threei} pick }
01[15:02] {@Threei} and enter amount of shares
[15:04] {thomcbell} tu
[15:08] {thomcbell} im out ubnt
[15:08] {thomcbell} made 0.20 cents on the bugger
[15:08] {thomcbell} it looks finished
[15:08] {thomcbell} lol
[15:13] {goinshort} restesting low
[15:13] {thomcbell} ron do u put it in as greater than 5k
[15:13] {thomcbell} or more
[15:15] {RonS} quote has block line with quantity and volume...right now shows ubnt at 9 trades and 210313 shares block traded...changes as trades occur all day
[15:16] {thomcbell} is that on nonko?
[15:17] {RonS} minor feature to me...more interested in sh outstanding, volume ongoing, % float short
[15:17] {RonS} fidelity has their own platform
01[15:17] {@Threei} Long Setup: VXX .40 break
01[15:17] {@Threei} If holds .30
01[15:20] {@Threei} Staff are now returning to work at Victoria City Hall. Suspicious package incident is over.
01[15:20] {@Threei} yeah, I guess fish that was
[15:20] {dino} most likely a six pack being delivered for happy hour
01[15:21] {@Threei} or that
01[15:24] {@Threei} stop to .34
01[15:25] {@Threei} half out
01[15:25] {@Threei} .48
01[15:28] {@Threei} stop .39 for the balance
[15:29] {goinshort} thanks V !
01[15:29] {@Threei} :)
01[15:29] {@Threei} not an easy day but we mostly fixed it
[15:29] {goinshort} strange day
01[15:29] {@Threei} wouldn't mind to get 1:3 on last trade
01[15:30] {@Threei} but I sense someone up there raising the brow at that
01[15:30] {@Threei} and saying "say thanks for what you've got and shut up"
[15:30] {dino} oh, you heard that
01[15:30] {@Threei} lol
01[15:31] {@Threei} you need to cover the mike
[15:31] {RonS} ya, had a real nice week here...thanks everyone...have a good weekend
[15:31] {goinshort} cya
01[15:31] {@Threei} have a good one Ron
[15:31] {dino} gj ron
01[15:34] {@Threei} ok VXX... you chance to shine
01[15:34] {@Threei} your
[15:34] {Alexs} VXX needs your order Vad
01[15:35] {@Threei} oh
01[15:35] {@Threei} sheesh
01[15:35] {@Threei} {--- early onset of Alzheimer
01[15:35] {@Threei} VXX, go up, right now!
01[15:35] {@Threei} SPY, die!
01[15:37] {@Threei} nope... I am no Kremlin
[15:40] {Alexs} lol
[15:42] {dino} too much excitement, calling it a day, gn all
[15:42] {dino} icpt spike
01[15:42] {@Threei} yeah
[15:42] {Alexs} gn dino
01[15:42] {@Threei} thank you all, let's have a nice relaxing weekend
[15:42] {dino} ty,u2
[15:43] {goinshort} u 2 thanks
01[15:43] {@Threei} over which Ukraine will start breaking down
01[15:43] {@Threei} see you on Monday :)
[15:44] {Alexs} Ukraine will survive Vad
01[15:44] {@Threei} not as a whole, I am confident
01[15:45] {@Threei} will retain parts
01[15:45] {@Threei} and will lose some
[15:45] {Alexs} without Crimea of course
01[15:45] {@Threei} that is not even a matter of discussion anymore, lol
01[15:45] {@Threei} Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov
[15:45] {Alexs} everything else will stay in I'm sure
01[15:46] {@Threei} no way no how
01[15:46] {@Threei} referndum will be 89%
[15:46] {Alexs} make a bet?
[15:46] {troub} have a good weekend, everyone.
01[15:46] {@Threei} then they'll announce themselves independent
01[15:46] {@Threei} demand Kyev to pull out troops
01[15:47] {@Threei} and if Kiev doesn't do that, as Putin for help
01[15:47] {@Threei} done, they are not a part of Ukraine anymore
[15:47] {Alexs} Putin will never go to eastern Ukraine he doesn't want guerilla war for himself
01[15:48] {@Threei} he doesn't have to go there...
01[15:48] {@Threei} all he needs is a government that dances to his tune
01[15:48] {@Threei} military plants important to him remain in his supply chain
01[15:49] {@Threei} and Ukraine is no longer a threat in regard of EU/NATO membership
01[15:49] {@Threei} that's all he needs
01[15:49] {@Threei} going there with actual military is last resort
01[15:49] {@Threei} and he is likely to get what he wants without it
[15:50] {Alexs} it's possible
01[15:50] {@Threei} whoever is elected on May 25 will be a president of a much smaller country than it is today
01[15:51] {@Threei} and world will sigh with relief that there is no big war
[15:51] {Alexs} I'm sure the country will be as it is today
01[15:51] {@Threei} ok... beer bet? :)
[15:52] {Alexs} :) done
01[15:52] {@Threei} see you Monday
[15:52] {goinshort} I'm just glad its gonna end - I only got 3 cases of Russian standard left!
01[15:52] {@Threei} lol
01[15:52] {@Threei} gs... just pray Putin doesn't go further
[15:52] {Alexs} I order you your favorite beer by mail if I lose
01[15:53] {@Threei} Moldova, Belarus, Baltic
01[15:53] {@Threei} that might ruin supply chain
01[15:53] {@Threei} if he stops at Ukraine, I am sure you'll be fine
[15:53] {goinshort} I'm going shopping
01[15:54] {@Threei} sanctions will be forgotten in a year
01[15:54] {@Threei} even those negligible that are in place now
[15:54] {Alexs} btw I can't find some ukrainian vodka here already
01[15:54] {@Threei} start locating Innis and Gunn, Alex :)
01[15:55] {@Threei} we never had ukrainian vodka here
01[15:55] {@Threei} Russian Standard is a staple though
[15:56] {Alexs} there was no problem in Brooklyn with that
01[15:56] {@Threei} what brand?
[15:56] {Alexs} everything, you name it
01[15:56] {@Threei} ukrainian I mean
01[15:57] {@Threei} I don't know new ones
[15:57] {Alexs} oh, Nemiroff pertcovka
01[15:58] {@Threei} never tried... not sold here
01[15:58] {@Threei} good?
[15:58] {Phil} thanks Vad, cya guys
01[15:58] {@Threei} take care phil
[15:59] {Alexs} depends on your taste I like it very much
01[15:59] {@Threei} mix of sweetness and bitter?
01[16:00] {@Threei} amber color?
01[16:00] {@Threei} that's pertsovka I remember...
[16:00] {Alexs} no much sweetness amber color yes
01[16:00] {@Threei} with little red chili pepper
[16:00] {Alexs} yes
01[16:00] {@Threei} yeah, just a tad of sweet taste
01[16:01] {@Threei} unexpected after you see a chili pepper
[16:01] {Alexs} lol
[16:02] {Alexs} ok good night Vad have a good weekend
01[16:03] {@Threei} you too :)'
