Monday, May 12, 2014

May 12 2014

Nice morning and jerky afternoon locked in a tight range. Light volume, too.

Session Time: Mon May 12 00:00:00 2014
[09:02] {dino} gm
01[09:02] {@Threei}  morning dino
[09:03] {dptl} good morning
[09:03] {RonS} gm from snowy denver
01[09:03] {@Threei}  dp, ron :)
01[09:03] {@Threei}  wow... really Ron??
[09:04] {RonS} ya, low from west combined w/ cold and moisture from north to produce upslope...
[09:05] {RonS} rain/snow all day yesterday, still snowing now...system out at noon
[09:06] {RonS} still cold through tomorrow...80 by sunday
01[09:06] {@Threei}  brutal
01[09:06] {@Threei}  it was too hot yesterday to finish lawn mowing, did just half
[09:08] {RonS} may be rascist but in US we say:  that's why god invented mexicans...
01[09:09] {@Threei}  none here
[09:09] {RonS} the ones around here are from the state of chihuahua and are good workers and decent folk
[09:10] {RonS} clb getting clubbed on miss and guide lower...interested 155-157...
[09:12] {RonS} sheesh, thought it was biotech but its oil service
01[09:12] {@Threei}  who cares... }G}
[09:13] {nemo} no spy volume this morning
01[09:13] {@Threei}  no but it's weightless
01[09:13] {@Threei}  floats up by itself
[09:13] {nemo} so isn't the space in Les's head
[09:14] {RonS} miss Les...prompts nemo's participation...
[09:14] {nemo} yeah, he creates a Pavlovian response
[09:15] {troub} Good morning you all
[09:15] {nemo} troub....niceties are really tough on me
01[09:15] {@Threei}  troub :)
[09:16] {nemo} btw...Orphan Black is a very interesting tv actress plays multiple's engaging
[09:16] {nemo} Odd Thomas a good movie too
01[09:17] {@Threei}  I again suggest The Americans
01[09:17] {@Threei}
[09:18] {nemo} and The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
[09:21] {RonS} ut oh, power fickering
[09:21] {RonS} flick
[09:23] {Alexs} good morning
01[09:23] {@Threei}  alex :)
[09:24] {RonS} gogo 25% float short...beat
[09:25] {ese} morning
01[09:25] {@Threei}  ese :)
[09:25] {RonS} ese gogo
[09:26] {ese} Ron Vad
01[09:29] {@Threei}  looks like floating up is the theme
01[09:29] {@Threei}  not sure why GLD climbs though, would exect it to drop
[09:30] {dino} vad, saw those elections in ukraine, 90%
[09:30] {ese} hmmmmmm ya......thats a good point vad
01[09:30] {@Threei}  89
01[09:30] {@Threei}  you know who to ask about next lttery numbers, right?
01[09:31] {@Threei}  {Threei} 10:31] {@Threei} as if there is any doubt in the result... I predict 89%
01[09:31] {@Threei}  {Threei} [15:46] {@Threei} referndum will be 89%
01[09:31] {@Threei}  Separatist election officials reported 89 percent for seceding and 10 percent against doing so in Donetsk Oblast.
01[09:31] {@Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .30 break
[09:31] {ese} I can't make a judgement on gold these days.....the events in the Ukraine seem to play havoc with gold
01[09:31] {@Threei}  If holds  .40
01[09:36] {@Threei}  (EU) France's Le Pen: Right wing parties in the EU Parliament looking to band together and work to block EU trade agreement with the US- Eurosceptic parties should win enough seats to form a political group in the legislature **NOTE: in the May 22-25th European Parliament elections, polls have indicated that anti-EU populists and nationalist from the left and right could potentially double the number of seats they hold in the body to over 20%
01[09:36] {@Threei}  next possible irritant for the market
01[09:37] {@Threei}  FB sharp pullback
01[09:40] {@Threei}  wake up already GLD
01[09:40] {@Threei}  right direction but you could move faster
01[09:41] {@Threei}  should accelerate after losing .20
01[09:44] {@Threei}  seriously... didn't expect it to be this slow
[09:44] {nemo} there trying to get to new spy highs it's all indexes
01[09:45] {@Threei}  "there"? give me a gun
[09:45] {nemo} they're
[09:45] {nemo} sorry...too much vodka this morning
01[09:45] {@Threei}  stop to .36
[09:46] {nemo} OP EX week too
01[09:46] {@Threei}  1:1
01[09:46] {@Threei}  finally
01[09:47] {@Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .40 break
01[09:48] {@Threei}  If holds  .35
01[09:48] {@Threei}  Invalidated
01[09:48] {@Threei}  but the idea is valid, looking for another entry
01[09:51] {@Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .30 break
01[09:52] {@Threei}  If holds  .24
01[09:52] {@Threei}  GLD stop to .26
01[09:53] {@Threei}  1/4 more out
01[09:53] {@Threei}  stop to .21
01[09:54] {@Threei}  meh TZA
01[09:54] {@Threei}  OK GLD, give us 1:3 and we are friends again
01[09:56] {@Threei}  closed on a trail
[09:56] {dino} bcei hl l .61 gappy
01[09:58] {@Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .15 break hl
01[09:59] {@Threei}  If holds  106
[10:01] {dino} bcei stop .33 -.31
01[10:02] {@Threei}  half out
01[10:02] {@Threei}  stop .14
[10:03] {nemo} spy iwm short setups, but think they push higher
01[10:03] {@Threei}  feels like one last push
01[10:03] {@Threei}  then pullback finally
01[10:04] {@Threei}  1/4 more out CAT
[10:04] {nemo} well you are the proverbial hair from all time highs during op ex week  "diabolical" is the week's watchword
01[10:04] {@Threei}  stop .24
[10:06] {dino} rinsed
[10:08] {dino} clb smr l .49
01[10:09] {@Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  ..5 break
01[10:09] {@Threei}  .05
01[10:10] {@Threei}  If holds  .97
01[10:11] {@Threei}  closed last CAT on a trail
[10:11] {nemo} 112.05 Weekly R1 IWM
01[10:13] {@Threei}  Invalidated  TZA
[10:13] {ese} L peix .32
[10:14] {ese} sm
01[10:16] {@Threei}  [09:29] {@Threei} looks like floating up is the theme
[10:16] {nemo} R3 IWM
01[10:17] {@Threei}  why didn't we just buy IWM on thast idea, having preliminary sold farm, wife and children
[10:17] {nemo} pay somebody to take the wife and children
[10:17] {dino} out clb .68, +1.19
01[10:18] {@Threei}  wtg
[10:18] {dino} ty, things all over the place
01[10:21] {@Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .80 break
01[10:21] {@Threei}  If holds  .72
[10:21] {nemo} algo all green no weakness anywhere
[10:22] {nemo} we're .20 off all time highs
01[10:25] {@Threei}  "Which country we will join will be decided after consultations with experts," separatist leader said.
01[10:25] {@Threei}  they consider Honduras I understand
01[10:25] {@Threei}  or Burkina Faso
[10:26] {Alexs} EU I guess
01[10:26] {@Threei}  not exotic enough
[10:27] {cosmo} turkey?
01[10:27] {@Threei}  no
01[10:28] {@Threei}  leader's kast name sounds dirty for russian ear
01[10:28] {@Threei}  last
[10:28] {cosmo} i c
01[10:28] {@Threei}  suggest alex or dp to say Edrogan without flinching
01[10:29] {@Threei}  stop to .74
01[10:31] {@Threei}  holding by fingertips
[10:38] {Alexs} Turchynov, acting president of Ukraine, told parliament on Monday that turnout was 24% in Luhansk and 32% in Donetsk
01[10:39] {@Threei}  I wonder how he knows that
[10:40] {Alexs} It's stupid to alaborate on it if you don't recognize the referendum
01[10:41] {@Threei}  but that's nothing... from my friend in Gorlovka, Donetsk province, quick translation. Here is how real men do referendums:
01[10:41] {@Threei}  you come to a booth with ballot in hands, a man standing near the ballot box takes it from you and looks at it. If Yes is checked, he drops it in the box; if No, he throws it in the litter and tells you go and think again before you come back. As you walk back, people with machine guns observing the scene focus on you.
[10:41] {Alexs} lol
[10:44] {Alexs} so  what was your friend choice finally?
01[10:44] {@Threei}  walked off
[10:44] {dino} gun to the head
01[10:44] {@Threei}  according to him, majority never came to vote
01[10:45] {@Threei}  they were against separation but coming and voting so means putting yourself in too much danger
01[10:45] {@Threei}  people get beaten up and kidnapped routinely for speaking ip against separation
01[10:48] {@Threei}  16 year old teen's from Donetsk Tweet: “Hooray! I already voted 4 times, no ID needed, ballots marked “No” are immediately torn up"
01[10:49] {@Threei}  ok... SPY finally shows more weakness
[10:49] {dino} lol, sounds like philadelphia, no id needed
[10:49] {nemo}
01[10:50] {@Threei}  half out TZA
01[10:50] {@Threei}  stop to .79
01[10:50] {@Threei}
01[10:51] {@Threei}  can't believe we finally nailed the top
01[10:52] {@Threei}  drive up looked endless
01[10:53] {@Threei}  A senior Russian politician said on Sunday he had brought to Moscow a petition by residents of Moldova's Russian-speaking, breakaway region of Transdniestria backing union with Russia.
01[10:54] {@Threei}  Rogozin triggered an angry response from NATO member Romania on Saturday when, reacting to being barred from Romanian airspace, he said that next time he would fly on a Russian bomber jet.
01[10:59] {@Threei}  business first:
01[10:59] {@Threei}  PARIS — France will press ahead with a 1.2 billion-euro ($1.66 billion) contract to sell helicopter carriers to Russia because cancelling the deal would do more damage to Paris than to Moscow, French diplomatic sources said on May 12.
[11:00] {Alexs} lol
[11:03] {dino} lol
[11:04] {dino} clb smr l .34
01[11:09] {@Threei}  UR) Ukraine separatists call on Russia to absorb the Donetsk region into Russia - Russia press- Donetsk declares itself a sovereign state as the Donetsk People's Republic and asks to join the Russian Federation.
01[11:10] {@Threei}  difficyukt choice between Russia, Honduras and Burkina Faso is made after prolonged deliberations
[11:16] {cosmo} I'd go with Uraguay
01[11:17] {@Threei}  valid option but too late I guess
01[11:17] {@Threei}  compettition from Honduras was fierce
01[11:19] {@Threei}  Traders appear to be ignoring the events in Ukraine this morning.
01[11:19] {@Threei}  of course they do
01[11:19] {@Threei}  market dioesn't care who Ukraine belongs to
01[11:19] {@Threei}  market cares about war breaking out
01[11:19] {@Threei}  if no war, market floats up
[11:20] {nemo} ehhh  Ukraine...just a bunch of Russky wannabees anyway
01[11:21] {@Threei}  or rather not-wannabees, lol
[11:21] {nemo} yeah...."1 man's death a tragedy...20 million, merely a statistic"  ~Uncle Joe
[11:21] {nemo} DE looks weak
01[11:23] {@Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .40 break
01[11:23] {@Threei}  If holds  .30
01[11:28] {@Threei}  no go
01[11:34] {@Threei}  looks like new highs are about to be madr
01[11:34] {@Threei} Long Setup:  IWM  .50 break hl
[11:34] {nemo} DIA all time highs today
01[11:34] {@Threei}  If holds  .40
[11:34] {ese} out peix .54 +.22
[11:35] {ese} have a good day all...pleasure doing business wih you
01[11:35] {@Threei}  take care ese
[11:36] {ese} cya vad.....not participating much these day on the blog but i'll get...busy time of the year....3 sometimes four shows a week for the next five weeks
[11:36] {ese} get there
[11:36] {dino} cyaese
[11:36] {ese} cya
01[11:36] {@Threei}  Invalidated  IWM
[11:36] {ese} dino
01[11:49] {@Threei}  second region made the difficult choice, and alas cosmo, Uruguay is not in the running again...
01[11:49] {@Threei}  (UR) Ukraine region of Luhansk declares independence and asks to join the Russian Federation - Russia press- Earlier this morning, Donetsk declared itself a sovereign state as the Donetsk People's Republic and asked to join the Russian Federation.
01[11:50] {@Threei}  so Alex... what criteria do we use for beer bet settlement?
[11:53] {Alexs} Annexation of those regions by Russia of course
01[11:53] {@Threei}  why? bet was for separation from Ukraine or remaining a part of it
[11:53] {Alexs} I bet Russia will not do it
01[11:54] {@Threei}  [15:51] {Alexs} I'm sure the country will be as it is today
01[11:54] {@Threei}  [15:51] {@Threei} ok... beer bet? :)
01[11:54] {@Threei}  [15:52] {Alexs} :) done
01[11:56] {@Threei}  full text is at :)
01[11:57] {@Threei}  {---- keeping thorough records when it comes to beer
[11:57] {Alexs} ok what's your point of view, do they separated from Ukraine already?
01[11:57] {@Threei}  no
01[11:58] {@Threei}  it's a first step, still reversible, although I don't believe it will be reversed
[11:58] {Alexs} what will be that "red line"?
01[11:58] {@Threei}  thast was my question
01[11:59] {@Threei}  what is the market where you admit losing the bet? :)
01[11:59] {@Threei}  marker
01[12:00] {@Threei} Long Setup:  IWM  .30 break
01[12:00] {@Threei}  If holds  .20
[12:02] {Alexs} they can't survive separately, so I propose it will be the point there they conclude any agreement with other country then Ukraine about any kind of union
01[12:02] {@Threei}  what if they still simply remain autonomy?
01[12:03] {@Threei}  elect their own government, do not take part in Ukraine election etc
01[12:03] {@Threei}  isn't it separation?
01[12:03] {@Threei}  ugh, come on IWM
01[12:03] {@Threei}  2 cents from 1:1
[12:07] {Alexs} autonomy inside the country doesn't mean separation if they don't take a part in current Ukraine election in that situation I think it's obviouse thing because of war
[12:08] {Alexs} Don't you agree that they can't exist by theirselves?
01[12:09] {@Threei}  it doesn't mean they wouldn't try
01[12:09] {@Threei}  and why not... there are smaller countries
[12:10] {nemo} .16 range Qs since 10:15
01[12:11] {@Threei}  half out
01[12:11] {@Threei}  not going to let it turn into loss
01[12:11] {@Threei}  stop to .24
01[12:11] {@Threei}  worst case scenario, breakeven
01[12:20] {@Threei}  finally
01[12:20] {@Threei}  1/4 more out
01[12:20] {@Threei}  .46
01[12:23] {@Threei}  stop to .34
01[12:34] {@Threei}  is it time for SPY to retreat some, or will just hang in here
01[12:36] {@Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .95 break
01[12:36] {@Threei}  If holds  .85
[12:36] {dino} not finding anything
01[12:37] {@Threei}  tight range at the top
01[12:37] {@Threei}  I doubt we will see real reversal, but some pullback is probably in order
01[12:37] {@Threei}  if for nothing else, then to just sucker in bears
01[12:38] {@Threei}  and then kill them by new spike into eod
01[12:38] {@Threei}  if this read is right (an no news comes in to ruin it), then we have a plan
[12:39] {Alexs} ok Vad lets put like that: as long as ukraine fight for that territories it's still a part of ukraine if they give up and their troops retreat from donetsk and lugansk regions you won?
01[12:39] {@Threei}  look for scalps on short side for now, then longs into close
01[12:39] {@Threei}  sounds about right
[12:40] {Alexs} :)
01[12:40] {@Threei}  (and I keep Kharkiv in reserve, i hope for another bet, for gorilka this time {G})
[12:41] {Alexs} rofl
01[12:42] {@Threei}  gs... do you have it in your liquor stores?
01[12:42] {@Threei}  ok TZA
01[12:42] {@Threei}  let's do 1:2
01[12:46] {@Threei}  anyone interested in good and unusual vodka, see if you can find it in your local stores... may sell as gorilka or pertsovka, easy to recognize by an amber color and red chili pepper floating inside
01[12:51] {@Threei}  .40 is SPY support to lose, to start some downdraft
01[13:25] {@Threei}  ugh
01[13:29] {@Threei}  anyone's breathing? or you all are asleep?
[13:30] {_rcford} lol
[13:30] {_rcford} here
01[13:30] {@Threei}  cool... I thought it was some kind of widespread coma
[13:30] {_rcford} lol
01[13:30] {@Threei}  although market is sure coma-onducing
01[13:30] {@Threei}  inducing
[13:31] {_rcford} twtr has performed well
[13:31] {_rcford} looks to make move higher
[13:31] {_rcford} resistance tho
01[13:33] {@Threei}  P breaks out
01[13:34] {@Threei}  if SPY does too, I'd think TWTR won't be far behind
[13:34] {_rcford} That'd be great ]
[13:35] {nemo} finnies noew highs
[13:35] {nemo} new
01[13:39] {@Threei}  TWTR new high
01[13:39] {@Threei}  whole 2 cents higher than old high
[13:39] {_rcford} lol
[13:40] {_rcford} it goes to 34 In my opinion
[13:42] {nemo} finnies going for the gap
[13:48] {nathan} hi gents
01[13:48] {@Threei}  hi nathan
[13:48] {nathan} important news at 14h?
01[13:49] {@Threei}  nah
01[13:49] {@Threei}  Budget statement
[13:49] {nathan} ok
01[13:49] {@Threei}  not a biggie
[13:49] {nathan} good to know
01[13:49] {@Threei}  (US) Preview: Apr Monthly Budget Statement due out at 14:00ET (18:00 GMT)**Consensus expectation: $114Be v $112.9B prior
01[13:50] {@Threei}  unless it's some outrageous number... like 5B
01[13:51] {@Threei}  Donetsk armed forces claim they will engage and fight Ukraine forces if the deadline for Ukraine security forces to leave the sovereign territory is ignored
01[13:51] {@Threei}  I can already taste my beer, Alex
01[13:54] {@Threei}  34 is within spit distance rcford
01[13:54] {@Threei}  spitting is not very polite though... so, stone throw
[13:58] {_rcford} lol
[13:58] {_rcford} it should happen
01[13:59] {@Threei}  *(US) APR MONTHLY BUDGET STATEMENT: $106.9B V $114BE- Receipts: $ v $406.7B y/y- Outlays: $ v $293.8B y/y -
01[13:59] {@Threei}  Receipts: $414.2B v $406.7B y/y - Outlays: $307.4B v $293.8B y/y
01[14:00] {@Threei}  so, receipts grew by 8B
01[14:00] {@Threei}  great
01[14:00] {@Threei}  but putlays grew by 14B
01[14:00] {@Threei}  yep, we are on our way to extuinguish debt
01[14:04] {@Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .80 break
01[14:04] {@Threei}  If holds  .90
01[14:12] {@Threei}  TWTR is almost there
[14:13] {_rcford} yes
01[14:13] {@Threei}  I think it might get blisters on its skin with this speed
[14:13] {_rcford} lol
[14:13] {_rcford} This one a good read from the momentum
[14:14] {_rcford} oh
[14:14] {_rcford} yeah
[14:16] {_rcford} here comes the bride
[14:17] {nemo} spy what a frickin tease
01[14:18] {@Threei}  meanwhile, referndum or not, but there is real war happening in Slavyansk... shooting, explosions, small cannons
01[14:18] {@Threei}  people sit in their apartments and dshare information via internet where the shooting happens
01[14:19] {@Threei}  alex, want to read? It's beyond surreal
01[14:20] {@Threei}  die GLD
[14:20] {Alexs} it means ukraine is still fighting
01[14:20] {@Threei}  I guess, unless they all shoot at each other now
[14:22] {Alexs} they say separatists are not ukrainians, KGB agents
01[14:22] {@Threei}  not all of them
01[14:23] {@Threei}  instigators who forment unrest and recruit
01[14:23] {@Threei}  oh, and you know who is military commander of donetsk republic now?
[14:24] {Alexs} no who?
01[14:24] {@Threei}  that same igor strelkov
01[14:24] {@Threei}  GRU officer
01[14:24] {@Threei}  good boy GLD, give is more
01[14:24] {@Threei}  us
01[14:25] {@Threei}  .70 is last line of defense
01[14:25] {@Threei}  if loses it, should cascade
01[14:25] {@Threei}  plummet
01[14:25] {@Threei}  crash
01[14:25] {@Threei}  I mean crrrrrash
[14:27] {Alexs} don't spook it Vad lol
01[14:27] {@Threei}  I am trying to encourage it
01[14:28] {@Threei}  by shooting at it
[14:29] {Alexs} you learned something from Putin
01[14:29] {@Threei}  I am trying
01[14:29] {@Threei}  it obviously works for him
[14:30] {Alexs} lol
[14:33] {Alexs} Putin's tactic is Sun Tzu's art of war at work
01[14:33] {@Threei}  totally
01[14:33] {@Threei}  page by page
01[14:33] {@Threei}  and ese thinks he is stupid
01[14:34] {@Threei}  his purpose may be, but his actions in a course of acheiving that purpose are anything but
01[14:35] {@Threei}  and sheesh, he is reading West as open book and playing it like a flute
06[14:35] * @Threei hits GLD over the head with 2x4
01[14:38] {@Threei}  Duma chief: Anti-Russian sanctions cannot end Ukraine crisis
01[14:38] {@Threei}  Obama: you think?? just wait till we sanction 3, yes 3 more people!
01[14:39] {@Threei}  let's trail GLD to .86
[14:40] {RonS} Obama:  meanwhile we are holding the ultimate weapon in reserve...Michele getting on youtube with a pouty face holding a sign "Let Uktraine go"
01[14:41] {@Threei}  and, scared to mention such powerful weapon... hashtag??
01[14:42] {@Threei}  no... that might provoke nuclear response
[14:42] {nathan} rons you missed the #LetUkrainego
[14:42] {nathan} lol
01[14:43] {@Threei}  yes... last resort
01[14:43] {@Threei}  when nothing works, go to twitter and deploy almighty hashtag
[14:45] {RonS} beware the nuclear hashtag...
01[14:45] {@Threei}  General Motors Corp Reportedly intends to provide 4G LTE service in some vehicles beginning in 2015 using the OnStar and AT&T networks - financial press- Cars would be allowed to become a Wi-Fi hot spot for $5/day
01[14:45] {@Threei}  right
01[14:46] {@Threei}  let's text, watch youtube and tweet while driving
[14:46] {RonS} but smoking...unless its pot
01[14:46] {@Threei}  imagine the productivity
[14:47] {Alexs} 5$/ day!? who needs it?
01[14:48] {@Threei}  bored drivers?
01[14:48] {@Threei}  also, if you drive in Slavyansk, you may want it to avoide the streets with active shooting
[14:49] {Alexs} you can make your phone a hot spot much cheaper
01[14:49] {@Threei}  but alex... if you are that smart you re not likely to drive GM
[14:50] {RonS} lol
[14:50] {nathan} lol
01[14:50] {@Threei}  see, they know their audience :)
[14:51] {Alexs} I like chevy tahoe actaully
01[14:51] {@Threei}  this guy bought our car? let's sell him an electornic map of his fridge
01[14:51] {@Threei}  app that helps find a shelf with mill
01[14:51] {@Threei}  milk
[14:55] {nemo} spy volume 56 mil probably looking at 80 mil day
01[14:56] {@Threei}  I overestimated sanctions by west. I said 3 people? it's two
01[14:56] {@Threei}  (RU) EU discloses new targets for sanctions in Russia as a result of the Ukraine crisis - press- Sanctions list includes Volodin (First Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office), Shamanov (commander of Russia airborne unit)
01[14:56] {@Threei}  Volodin and Shamanov are in deep sorrow, and will drink whole next week
01[14:56] {@Threei}  wait... they would anyway
[14:59] {Alexs} actually russia suffer a big capital outflow mor than $170 bil already
01[14:59] {@Threei}  yup
[15:00] {Alexs} I think it hurts a lot
01[15:00] {@Threei}  It must
[15:00] {Alexs} and it will be harder
[15:02] {Alexs} now Putin's trying to get investment from china and it will be very dangerous fro russia
[15:02] {dino} of course small price to pay for that real estate called crimea
[15:03] {Alexs} china can swallow russia very quickly
01[15:03] {@Threei}  it actually started
01[15:04] {@Threei}  millions are sneaking in far east
[15:04] {Alexs} yup
01[15:04] {@Threei}  huge porous border
[15:04] {Alexs} just a beginning
01[15:05] {@Threei}  they read Sun Tzu too...
01[15:06] {@Threei}  why start a war if you can infiltrate and assimilate
[15:06] {nemo} actually, the Russian translations of Sun Tzu are much better than what are available in Englishy
[15:06] {nemo} English
01[15:06] {@Threei}  20 years later, half of Russia speaks Mandarin... what war?
[15:07] {Alexs} how do you know nemo?
[15:08] {nemo} It kinda' falls under my vocational expertise
01[15:08] {@Threei} Long Setup:  IWM  .90 break
01[15:08] {@Threei}  If holds  .80
01[15:09] {@Threei}  closed GLD
[15:10] {Alexs} but chinese read it in original language
[15:11] {nemo} You asked me about my statement comparing English and Russian translations
[15:11] {RonS} hmm... really?  given its age is it not an old version?
[15:11] {Alexs} yeah sure nemo
01[15:11] {@Threei}  as far as general principles go, quite current, ron
[15:12] {nathan} gn all
[15:12] {nathan} see u tomorrow
[15:12] {nemo} go have some Sangria
01[15:12] {@Threei}  take care nathan
[15:12] {RonS} not talking subject matter...but language...
[15:13] {nathan} hahaha
01[15:13] {@Threei}  oh
[15:14] {nemo} don't understand your point Ron
[15:16] {RonS} since there is Olde English, and Latin was the precursor to the romance languages would not a Chinese dialect be the same?
[15:16] {nemo} Mandarin characters have stayed pretty consistent for a coupla' thousand years
[15:17] {nemo} pronounciations vary
[15:17] {dptl} see ya tomorrow all
01[15:17] {@Threei}  take care dp
01[15:18] {@Threei}  btw, speaking of... if there were a rule forbidding to eat asnything with higher IQ, I know quite a few who would have been banned from eating a mandarin
[15:18] {RonS} characters may be the same but would not the meanings(s) evolve or devolve?
[15:19] {RonS} back then gay character homo   :)
01[15:20] {@Threei}  TWTR did it
01[15:21] {@Threei}  well... almost
[15:21] {RonS} happy to homo?
01[15:21] {@Threei}  got 34, but I expected it to explode after tat
01[15:21] {@Threei}  lol ron
01[15:21] {@Threei}  you rode it to 34, rcford?
[15:24] {_rcford} Oh No
[15:25] {_rcford} I actually just watch cause I hade face book and a couple others.  Up 700
01[15:25] {@Threei}  oh
[15:25] {_rcford} key board acting up
01[15:25] {@Threei}  gj anyway
[15:26] {_rcford} absolutely  we can't get them all
01[15:27] {@Threei}  Avakov: Ukraine government's armed operation in east to go on
[15:33] {Alexs} Avakov spoiled your beer dreams Vad
01[15:33] {@Threei}  not in the least
01[15:33] {@Threei}  I didn't expect them to give up on one day
01[15:35] {@Threei}  but it's inevitable... I see many ways to separation and practically none to reuniting
[15:37] {Alexs} looks like putin doesn't want an army of starving miners in his country though
01[15:37] {@Threei}  who would
01[15:37] {@Threei}  6.5 mil
01[15:37] {@Threei}  no go IWM
01[15:37] {@Threei}  afternoon is not mine today
[15:38] {Alexs} finaly it all be china
[15:38] {RonS} dammit..CLB unreal
[15:38] {Alexs} they give food and job to everybody
01[15:38] {@Threei}  imagine paying them all pensions and taking care of budget-dependent, at russian rate vs ukrainian
[15:39] {Alexs} it's killing factor that's what i'm saying
01[15:39] {@Threei}  plud guerrilla war
[15:40] {Alexs} exactly
01[15:40] {@Threei}  sure he will try to keep them out of russia, but not let them back in UYkraine either... puppet gobernment will be fine with him
[15:40] {Alexs} it's impossible situation
01[15:40] {@Threei}  for whom?
01[15:41] {@Threei}  for miners?
01[15:41] {@Threei}  what does he care? :)
01[15:42] {@Threei}  what the deuce
01[15:42] {@Threei}  SPY/IWM divergence
01[15:43] {@Threei}  q'uite weird
[15:43] {Alexs} lol I mean independent donetsk and luhansk even with a puppet government somebody needs to give them money
01[15:44] {@Threei}  well, they might face this impossible to imagine concept of actually earning it
01[15:45] {@Threei}  but on serious note, giving them discounted gas and some money here and there will be cheaper way for Russia to keep situation as it is
[15:47] {Alexs} I don't think that's what putin is planning
[15:48] {Alexs} he will sell them to the west for something more valuable for him
01[15:49] {@Threei}  difficult to say, but they sure made themselves a subject of trading
[15:49] {Alexs} yup
01[15:50] {@Threei}  new highs into close
01[15:50] {@Threei}  just as expected... but haven't found the way to exploit it
01[15:50] {@Threei}  grrr
01[15:51] {@Threei}  Ok guys, thank you
01[15:51] {@Threei}  have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:51] {Alexs} yes IWM behaved strange