Friday, June 20, 2008

Jun 20 2008

Session Time: Fri Jun 20 00:00:00 2008
[08:05] {Threei} OPEC KELIL SAYS THAT PRODCUTION INCREASE IS ILOGICAL AND IRRATIOANAL
[08:05] {Threei} 06/20/08 08:00am
[08:05] {Threei} [HOKU] Hoku Scientific Collaborating with Great Western Malting on utilities
[08:05] {Threei} - Under the terms of its bid, The Orchard would assume control of TVT's catalogue of recorded masters, artist contracts and physical record distribution infrastructure, among other assets, but excluding its holdings in its music publishing subsidiary.
[08:07] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad, Dptl, Hawkfan4 and Jmb.
[08:07] {Threei} Good morning
[08:07] {hawkfan4} good morning
[08:09] {Threei} ESLR gapping down
[08:09] {Threei} what an impossible stock
[08:10] {Threei} such words as "follow through" are just not in its vocabulary
[08:13] {Threei} spam mail becomes plainly insulting
[08:13] {Threei} "Be a man finally"?
[08:14] {Threei} I liked "buy replica watches" better :)
[08:14] {Threei} coming at the rate about 400-500 a day
[08:14] {Threei} downside of having e-mail address posted
[08:15] {hawkfan4} lol, that's pretty bad
[08:15] {Threei} it is...
[08:15] {Threei} most irrtating thing, there is good chance to miss a valid one while deleting
[08:22] {_Lisa_Jay} Spam filter.
[08:24] {Threei} tried a lot of them
[08:24] {Threei} none seems to be effective enough
[08:30] {_3579} gm
[08:30] {Threei} 3579 :)
[08:31] {Threei} ENOC
[08:31] {Threei} SIGNS 110 MEGAWATT CONTRACT WITH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
[08:32] {_3579} vad i finished the last chapter of reminiscences of a stock operator last night that chapter is very depressing
[08:33] {Threei} why?
[08:34] {_3579} everyone dies poor
[08:34] {Threei} Jesse didn't
[08:34] {Threei} his estate was about 5 mil when he died
[08:35] {Threei} which in todsay's money is what
[08:35] {Threei} about 80?
[08:37] {Threei} but as famous Hawaiian rules say... He who dies with the most toys - still dies :)
[08:37] {_3579} all smart people with no self control, not him but the whales that lost everything looking for more good lesson
[08:37] {Threei} yeah... as long as leson is taking, why depressing? :)
[08:38] {Threei} rather encouraging as you got useful piece of someone's life experience
[08:38] {Threei} you can tell I am a positive one :)
[08:41] {_3579} i agree but to have so much and give it away, Morse the last guy the book speaks of has his body held by his landlady untill his rent is paid
[08:41] {_3579} thats depressing
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} The author probably wrote about all that to caution people about getting too greedy or less cautious.
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} Like a balance.
[08:42] {Threei} just speaks volumes about landlady :)
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} lol.
[08:42] {_3579} the book was great
[08:42] {Threei} certainly
[08:42] {Threei} there is a good reason why it became all time classic
[08:44] {Threei} what I'll never understand is this take often expressed:
[08:44] {Threei} "what is there to learn from a man who ended up killing himself"
[08:44] {Threei} sounds very unreasonable to me
[08:45] {Threei} man was fantastic trader, learn how he did it
[08:45] {Threei} his mental illlness that walked alongside throughout his entire life and eventually led to his death has nothing to do with his trading abilities
[08:46] {_3579} so many lessons in the book i found myself reading the same chapters over and over again
[08:46] {Threei} I know
[08:46] {Threei} and interesting thing is,
[08:46] {Threei} as your own trading experience grows, you will find new not seen earlier lessons in it
[08:47] {Threei} I am proud to hear the same about TTR... tells me it's in-depth book
[08:48] {Threei} OPEC PRESIDENT KHELIL: DEMANDS AMONG CONSUMERS FOR A SUPPLY HIKE ARE IRRATIONAL
[08:48] {Threei} - Adds that will argue against oil output increase during Jeddah meeting
[08:51] {_3579} i have read ttr two times this week i can not tell you how much it has helped me
[08:52] {Threei} good to hear :)
[08:52] {_3579} as you can see i have been reading around the clock
[08:53] {Threei} as long as you stop in time... :)
[08:53] {Threei} as esemde about his experience of reading over 100 books on tarding
[08:54] {_3579} you are going to be away on monday?
[08:54] {Threei} yes
[08:54] {Threei} leaving today midday
[08:55] {Threei} back Monday middday
[08:55] {_3579} have a good trip
[08:55] {Threei} thank you
[08:55] {Threei} been a serious while since I enjoyed trip
[08:55] {Threei} used to love it
[08:55] {_3579} you are coming to my area
[08:55] {Threei} with all the airport and in-flight bs of last years it xceased to be fun
[08:56] {Threei} you in NY?
[08:56] {_3579} yes Long Island
[08:56] {Threei} :)
[08:56] {Threei} very energizing city if visiting short
[08:56] {_3579} SHORT
[08:56] {Threei} for a permanent living I prefer more quiet :)
[08:56] {_3579} i dont love the city
[08:57] {_3579} i like grass
[08:57] {cosmo} hmm
[08:57] {Threei} add" oceanbeach, mountains, lakes, forest", and you have me and my place of living
[08:59] {magoo} morning
[08:59] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:00] {magoo} no replay...what u got going?
[09:00] {Threei} nothing so far
[09:00] {Threei} some fun discussion but you'll have read it in the log later
[09:01] {Threei} irritated that host can't restore replay after thrtee requests
[09:01] {cosmo} HBAN pre mkt high = 6.10 fwiw
[09:01] {Threei} reinforces my resolve to change host
[09:03] {cosmo} ....should hold 6
[09:04] {_Lisa_Jay} csiq up, eslr flat now.
[09:04] {Threei} if it were a normal stock, I'd say 12.40 break is long
[09:05] {Threei} with ESLR, I simply have no clue
[09:06] {magoo} MER getting hit vad {again}
[09:07] {dptl} good morning all
[09:07] {Threei} dp :)
[09:09] {esemde} good morning......
[09:09] {Threei} ese :)
[09:09] {dino} gm all
[09:09] {Threei} dino :)
[09:09] {dino} :)
[09:10] {Threei} looked in carbon tax plan yesterday... if Libs win election and implement it, I am moving to US
[09:10] {cosmo} careful with california 3i
[09:10] {cosmo} they might tax your exhale
[09:11] {Threei} OK.... Hawaii then
[09:11] {magoo} pennsyltuckey vad
[09:11] {dino} yes, and meanwhile other countries do as they please w/pollution
[09:12] {_Lisa_Jay} I love PA. R u closer to NJ or the other side Magoo?
[09:12] {Threei} yeah... but Canada responsible for like 1% of world pollution must kill its economy and send cost of living through the roof in order "to do right thing"
[09:13] {fernp} Good morning
[09:13] {Threei} ironically, tax plan is called "tex shiFt"
[09:13] {Threei} fern :)
[09:13] {Threei} tax shiFt
[09:14] {Threei} guess how it plays out with other parties :)
[09:14] {Threei} "you are full of shift" ot "shift happens" is repeated in parliament on hourly basis
[09:16] {dino} close to nj, lisa
[09:16] {Threei} CNBC'S FABER NOTES THAT MER RUMOR OF POSSIBLE PREANNOUCEMENT IS UNTRUE
[09:18] {dino} sounds like bs, leh
[09:22] {_Lisa_Jay} WU raises guidence.
[09:25] {magoo} north east corner PA lisa
[09:25] {magoo} 2 hours from ny city
[09:25] {_Lisa_Jay} Oh. I visit Horsham every month.
[09:27] {Threei} let's stay on a careful icky conservative side today
[09:28] {Threei} icky = picky
[09:28] {GeoArb} no replay.... why?
[09:28] {Threei} freudian slip?... :)
[09:28] {Threei} because host deserves to be taken out and shot Geo
[09:28] {GeoArb} why dont we just use othernet or something?
[09:29] {Threei} some functionality isn't there on free hosting
[09:29] {GeoArb} true true
[09:29] {Threei} working on finding better host
[09:29] {GeoArb} so why careful today?
[09:30] {Threei} Friday... too good of a week to spoil it... nervous market...
[09:30] {GeoArb} ok
[09:32] {Threei} watching VPHM
[09:32] {Threei} .35 - .45 range
[09:33] {Threei} with big offers at .50 - .51, not sure though
[09:33] {Threei} maybe wait for more consolidatin and try .51 if it melts
[09:33] {Threei} if stays above .40
[09:34] {Threei} how about this 50 cents selloff ESLR
[09:34] {Threei} right after .40 break
[09:35] {Threei} what a trap
[09:35] {magoo} all solars on watcch lisat red
[09:36] {Roman} 21 ROYL
[09:36] {Roman} 21 in small
[09:38] {dino} lol, cnbc two weeks ago, new rally get in, today they are gloom and doomers, get out. so buy high sell low i guess
[09:39] {dino} fwiw, watching cpla, hun, bucy, cedc
[09:39] {dino} snp, ptr
[09:41] {Roman} 21 CSIQ
[09:41] {Roman} 21 bouncer
[09:42] {dino} ioc ouch
[09:42] {Threei} JASO
[09:43] {Threei} WEAKNESS ATTRIBUTED TO CAUTIOUS COMMENTS AT MERRILL
[09:43] {magoo} news AAPL vad?
[09:44] {esemde} out ESLR my little 300 shs lot .30 from yesterday at 12.45 +1.15
[09:44] {Threei} nothing fresh
[09:44] {Threei} wtg ese
[09:44] {Roman} 21 long SEED
[09:44] {Roman} 21 6.95-7.00 area
[09:45] {dino} sm risky long ioc .95
[09:46] {Roman} 21 long NCOC
[09:46] {Roman} 21 9.36 stop under 9.20
[09:48] {Threei} MRVL
[09:48] {Roman} 21 NCOC looking to sell first lot over 10
[09:48] {GeoArb} mrvl
[09:48] {Threei} .56 long, .44 stop
[09:50] {cosmo} VPHM
[09:50] {Threei} so far so good
[09:51] {cosmo} testy
[09:51] {dino} ioc stop to b/e not moving
[09:52] {Threei} MRVL invalidated
[09:53] {dino} ioc stopped -.02
[09:53] {Threei} VNDA?
[09:54] {Threei} your baby Roman
[09:54] {esemde} out of commision here...questrade is down
[09:54] {Roman} 21 love it Vad
[09:54] {Threei} 6 break?
[09:55] {Threei} daily looks fantastic, I just don't know personality of this one
[09:55] {Roman} 21 yes, but can I answer this question in 10 minutes
[09:55] {Roman} 21 ?
[09:55] {Threei} sigh
[09:55] {dino} lod's
[09:55] {dino} -300 patuience? gut says so
[09:55] {_Lisa_Jay} rebooting, be right back.
[09:55] {patience} not sure dino
[09:56] {dino} bet you 1 bud light lime
[09:56] {patience} oh now we're talking
[09:56] {GeoArb} what can i say
[09:56] {GeoArb} comitted traders
[09:56] {Threei} lol
[09:57] {GeoArb} passion all around
[09:57] {dino} :)
[09:57] {Roman} 21 i'll bet against you dino
[09:57] {esemde} whats the story on VNDA
[09:57] {dino} ok
[09:58] {dino} you usually do :)
[09:58] {Roman} 21 PLLL
[09:58] {Threei} healthcare stock ese
[09:58] {esemde} news today
[09:58] {Threei} nope
[09:59] {Threei} VPHM is oblivious to market drop
[10:01] {esemde} SQNM looks exactly like ESLR on daily
[10:01] {esemde} check that...
[10:02] {esemde} was looking at 15min chart
[10:02] {judijim} good morning to you all
[10:02] {esemde} jj
[10:02] {Threei} jj :)
[10:02] {Threei} SDTH
[10:02] {Threei} PLANNING ACQUISITION OF FERTILIZER COMPANY, RELOCATING CHEMICAL PLANT
[10:02] {Threei} - Planning to acquire Jinan Fertilizer Co., Ltd., a nitrogenous fertilizer company based in Jinan, the capital of Shandong Province.
[10:03] {Threei} VPHM invalidated
[10:03] {GeoArb} ya know
[10:04] {GeoArb} the beer is owed dino
[10:04] {Threei} ok Roman... your time is up
[10:04] {Threei} VNDA 7 or 5 today?
[10:05] {dino} de hitting march lows
[10:05] {Threei} colars disconnected from oil completely
[10:05] {Threei} solars
[10:05] {GeoArb} i have this over lay of oil on NQ
[10:06] {GeoArb} the chart looks like an open end of a scissor
[10:06] {dino} 11,620 3/08 lows dji
[10:06] {Threei} with economy in the middle Geo?
[10:06] {GeoArb} heheh
[10:06] {GeoArb} yup
[10:09] {Roman} 21 stopped NCOC
[10:09] {dino} must be short term chart geo?
[10:09] {GeoArb} oh yes
[10:09] {GeoArb} just today
[10:10] {dino} ok
[10:11] {dino} cetv
[10:15] {esemde} A
[10:15] {_Lisa_Jay} SDTH
[10:15] {esemde} APOL only stock on ndx bucking the trend
[10:16] {dino} fwlt
[10:17] {esemde} PODD how bout this recovery from days low
[10:17] {dino} sm l cpla .80
[10:17] {dino} thin
[10:19] {dino} cetv sm l .80, risky
[10:20] {Threei} PTEN tries to follow through
[10:20] {Threei} pullback to 35 - 35.05 are worth entry
[10:20] {Threei} first strength from here
[10:21] {Threei} stop .89 or .94, depending on your risk tolerance
[10:21] {dino} hun l .70 stop .37
[10:22] {Threei} invalidated
[10:22] {esemde} LULU had linit order for 1/2 qat .60 ...no fill damn!!!
[10:22] {esemde} 1/2 lot that is
[10:23] {dino} itmn
[10:24] {esemde} another huge bounce dino like PODD
[10:26] {Threei} SDTH looks to cut through 9
[10:27] {dino} es you get podd/
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Yeah...did not know where to put my risk stop as it broke through 8.70 - 8.75. So did not take trade :-(
[10:28] {Threei} why not ask
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Sorry, next time i will. Thank you.
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Pass me the box of tissues please.
[10:28] {GeoArb} i am thinking of asking vad about every trade after its done
[10:28] {magoo} dam SDTH
[10:29] {esemde} long ASBC .32
[10:29] {magoo} looked away pow
[10:29] {GeoArb} after all i forget... i am here to learn to fish and just not takehis calls
[10:29] {GeoArb} is that ok vad ?:)
[10:29] {Chaeron} good morning fellow fishermen :)
[10:29] {Threei} chaweron :)
[10:29] {GeoArb} hey chaeron
[10:29] {dino} thats right goe
[10:30] {Threei} sure geo, under one condition
[10:30] {magoo} charbroil:)
[10:30] {Chaeron} hey geo, Tweei
[10:30] {dino} wynnblood
[10:30] {GeoArb} ?
[10:30] {Threei} man who learned how to fish usually goes out in a boat and sits with 6 pack... so condition is - take TWO 6 packs, one for me
[10:30] {GeoArb} anytime vad
[10:31] {GeoArb} ill mail you one
[10:31] {GeoArb} as i told chaeron months ago..........
[10:31] {esemde} out ASBC...42 quick hit +.10....gotta go...have a great weekend everyone
[10:31] {Threei} take care ese, have a great one
[10:31] {GeoArb} I had to shovel a lot of shit to find this pony(room)
[10:31] {Chaeron} bye ese... nice scalp
[10:31] {GeoArb} bye ese
[10:32] {Chaeron} lol
[10:32] {Chaeron} magoo - replay not working here... any fun you're looking at?
[10:32] {Threei} chaeron is crouping today... tWeei?
[10:32] {GeoArb} i thought that was a cute lisp
[10:33] {Chaeron} [07:28] {Threei} chaweron :)
[10:33] {Threei} oh
[10:33] {Threei} rolf
[10:33] {Threei} or rofl
[10:33] {GeoArb} lol
[10:33] {Chaeron} :)
[10:33] {Threei} good comeback then :)
[10:34] {Chaeron} thanks... now what's shakin? I don't see much... Must be Friday
[10:34] {GeoArb} yeah quad witch friday
[10:34] {Threei} nothing wortg chasing
[10:34] {Threei} and what Geo said
[10:35] {Threei} oil up, Fri, quad witching
[10:35] {dino} out cetv hit my stop somehow, +.56
[10:35] {Threei} enough reasons to stay very picky
[10:35] {GeoArb} nice
[10:35] {Threei} beauty dino
[10:35] {dino} ty, but look now, f'job
[10:36] {Threei} wither VNDA breaks .20 from here or I am out if .15 is broken down
[10:36] {Threei} either that was
[10:36] {dino} that should not have happened, i was way below
[10:36] {GeoArb} does your stop trigger on inside or any print dino?
[10:37] {Threei} what price wasd your stop at?
[10:37] {dino} any
[10:37] {dino} .42
[10:37] {GeoArb} do you have a choice?
[10:37] {dino} doesn't matter, just made me mad
[10:38] {dino} here's the problem, geo, 80% of time its' better to get taken out
[10:38] {Threei} that's disgusting stop run
[10:38] {dino} imo of course
[10:39] {dino} back down now, lets watch it
[10:39] {dino} see now under me
[10:39] {_Lisa_Jay} Why Dino?
[10:39] {dino} jumpy little thing
[10:39] {dino} out cpla .20, +.40
[10:40] {dino} jesse livermore said it best lisa, if you want out, get out
[10:40] {Threei} out VNDA
[10:40] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you Dino.
[10:40] {dino} ok, watching bucy, cetv, wynn cpla
[10:41] {magoo} out VNDA too .12 TY
[10:41] {dino} in other words get out when you can, not when you must
[10:42] {_Lisa_Jay} Your other quote " Profits are slipperty. Take them fast." Another one stuck in my head.
[10:42] {dino} profits=luck, losses=skill
[10:43] {GeoArb} i must be very skilled :)
[10:43] {dino} lol
[10:43] {Threei} lol
[10:46] {dino} bucy sm l .80
[10:47] {Threei} ugh... VNDA continues
[10:50] {dino} asmi
[10:54] {dino} cetv l sm .20
[10:58] {_Lisa_Jay} ESLR?
[10:59] {dino} sohu
[11:01] {Threei} I have no idea how to read this stock Lisa
[11:01] {Threei} it's a mystery wrapped in enigma and covered with puzzle
[11:03] {dino} and sprinkled w/salt
[11:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. Very jerky movements.
[11:06] {dino} cetv stop to .65
[11:07] {dino} out +.43
[11:07] {dino} .42
[11:08] {dino} bucy stop to .30
[11:08] {dino} to .40
[11:09] {kazaam} how does GMXR look if it breaks up?
[11:09] {dino} lol, forgot about wynn order at 97.60, guess i can kill that
[11:09] {dino} 87 that was
[11:10] {dino} bucy stopped at .50, +.70
[11:11] {magoo} dino kickin ass
[11:12] {dino} lucky
[11:12] {GeoArb} if he says skilled
[11:12] {GeoArb} means he is loosing
[11:12] {dino} :)
[11:13] {Threei} I hjate the way it trades kaz
[11:13] {Threei} hate
[11:14] {dino} cetv drops again
[11:14] {Threei} disgusting spread, drop 60 cents in one swoop
[11:14] {Threei} very unsafe stock
[11:15] {dino} adjust size
[11:15] {dino} bruce would say it'
[11:15] {dino} s going for double bottom
[11:17] {magoo} vad..what level in naz would trigger buying?
[11:18] {GeoArb} dino dcc pls
[11:18] {Threei} with multiple witching today, no such thing magoo
[11:19] {Threei} technicals are useless on such day
[11:19] {magoo} really.....ok
[11:21] {magoo} aapl long here .33
[11:21] {magoo} sorry fsast..risky..lookinbg for powerup
[11:24] {magoo} lay out 178.08
[11:25] {dino} cedc l sm .10
[11:26] {dino} was distracted
[11:33] {magoo} aapl gonna do it
[11:37] {dino} hun dead, tighten to .49
06[11:37] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:37] {kazaam} what size spread is too much? 10cent or more? of 5 cent or more?
06[11:38] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:38] {Threei} depends on one's risk tolerance
06[11:38] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:38] {Threei} I start cutting size down drastically when it's 10 cents and more
[11:39] {kazaam} oh i see, you size depending on spread as spread determine risk?
[11:39] {Threei} correct
[11:39] {Threei} plus other factors adding to risk evaluation
[11:39] {kazaam} does a higher spread usually indicate volitility or choppy behaviour?
[11:39] {Threei} sizes shown on Level 2, gap between levels
[11:39] {Threei} yes
[11:40] {Threei} thin stocks tend to be more volatile
[11:40] {GeoArb} ahh oil woes.... [F] Ford Motor Co Delaying launch of redesigned F-150 truck, citing slump in truck market, looks to increase car production
[11:40] {Threei} you have scalping course, right?
[11:40] {Threei} it's described in printed part
[11:40] {Threei} in MPP too if I remember correct
[11:40] {kazaam} yeah, i have been watching it, oh, havent been through all the written stuff
[11:41] {kazaam} will get to it this weekend
[11:41] {Threei} hey, you are supposed to read the manual! {G}
[11:41] {GeoArb} why
[11:41] {GeoArb} we have you
[11:41] {Threei} 'cause when I retire...
[11:41] {GeoArb} youre too young vad
[11:41] {GeoArb} (talk about sweettalking)
[11:42] {Threei} not if you consider each year in USSR counting for 3
[11:42] {GeoArb} hey there is a great article in WSJ
[11:42] {Threei} also, I am not sure whether I am going to come out of Alaska cruise alive
[11:42] {GeoArb} about how russian billionaires have climed the top layer of society in London
[11:42] {GeoArb} i was thinking i bet vad's sad he moved
[11:43] {Threei} my wife asks an agent a lot of questions about orcas swimming around and how easy it is to trip and fall in the water and whether there are a lot of people usually watching
[11:43] {GeoArb} lol
[11:43] {magoo} theres 08
[11:43] {Threei} not really Geo
[11:44] {Threei} to get there you need to step over more bodies than I can stomach
[11:44] {GeoArb} true
[11:44] {Threei} and I mean literally
[11:44] {GeoArb} yup
[11:45] {dino} the whate thing was cool vad, sign up for it, also helicopter to glacier
[11:45] {Threei} whale, no sure
[11:45] {GeoArb} any glaciers left?
[11:45] {dino} cedc stop to .49
[11:45] {Threei} had enough of that in Hawaii, and we have them here, sometimes can see right from the shore
[11:46] {Threei} I actually saw one from my crabbing dock
[11:46] {dino} ok then, hit some local pubs instead
[11:46] {Threei} hehe
[11:46] {dino} glaciers left, sure lots, just getting smaller
[11:46] {GeoArb} they are all melted and down in IOWA
[11:46] {GeoArb} why cant i get some water
[11:46] {Threei} yeah, and there is none left in Florida I heard
[11:46] {GeoArb} was 107 here yesterday
[11:47] {Chaeron} dont get me going on global warming...... ug
[11:47] {dino} you in fl geo?
[11:47] {Threei} fear not chaeron, Canada will save the world by taxing us for carbon emissions
[11:47] {GeoArb} comeone chaeron youre oon a nice breezy neighbourhood
[11:47] {GeoArb} nope los angeles
[11:47] {GeoArb} SF valley
[11:47] {dino} ahh
[11:48] {GeoArb} prob 50 miles from chaeron
[11:48] {Chaeron} OC Geo... looking at catalina as I type
[11:48] {dino} out cedc ave .50, +.40
[11:48] {GeoArb} thanks for that chaeron
[11:48] {Chaeron} sure
[11:48] {GeoArb} :)
[11:48] {Chaeron} it's 77 here too... make you feel better?
[11:49] {GeoArb} thats just wrong.....
[11:49] {GeoArb} its 99 here right now !
[11:49] {Chaeron} yeah... I know
[11:49] {GeoArb} dont worry chaeron
[11:49] {GeoArb} with global warming in 50 years.... ill be beach fonrt
[11:50] {Chaeron} don't use the airconditioner most summers... just open the window... I think I've used it maybe 10 times in 15 years..... hmmm
[11:51] {Chaeron} Geo - don't tell me you're a believer.......
[11:51] {GeoArb} i believe climate changes..... dont know about reasons
[11:51] {GeoArb} its basic cycles
[11:52] {dino} cycles agree
[11:52] {GeoArb} reasons could be anything
[11:52] {Chaeron} oh yes.. totally agree on cycles
[11:57] {Threei} VNDAS, what a powerful move after 6 break
[11:57] {Threei} VNDA
[12:01] {_Lisa_Jay} SDTH, i could just week.
[12:02] {magoo} that was the one SDTH
[12:02] {_Lisa_Jay} weep.
[12:03] {dptl} ceco?
[12:07] {GeoArb} off to work... slow day have a grat weekend
[12:07] {Threei} you too Geo
[12:07] {magoo} u 2 geo:)
[12:07] {Threei} hard to tell dp
[12:07] {Threei} went up a bit too much already
[12:07] {Roman} 21 NCOC going now
[12:11] {dptl} ok ty
[12:28] {dino} cetv approaches lod
[12:33] {_Lisa_Jay} Dino if you have a few minutes, can i bug you with a question about stops. Thanks.
[12:36] {kazaam} disgusting chop going on
[12:36] {Threei} yeah... just as we forecasted in the mroning
[12:36] {Threei} what's with TELK?
[12:36] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:36] {Threei} look at the volume
[12:38] {Chaeron} ncoc
[12:47] {dino} sure lisa
[12:48] {_Lisa_Jay} When do you start trailing or tigting your stops. I have been having trouble managing my positions. Thanks.
[12:50] {dino} depends, when stock gets up .50 i trail to .40, tougher stocks, i trail to b/e fast. markets are strange lately. and sometimes, things just feel "off", so tighten
[12:51] {_Lisa_Jay} Ok, thank you.
[12:56] {dino} mblx
[12:56] {Threei} SAUDI OIL MINISTER: CONFIRMS REPORT OF 200K BPD OIL OUPUT HIKE, STATES RISE WILL COME IN JULY, BOOST TOTAL SAUDI OUTPUT TO 9.7M BPD
[12:56] {Threei} - Promises to offer more information about the production increase in the next day or two.
[12:56] {Threei} - reminder: A lower level Saudi embassy official gave a similar confirmation yesterday. The Jeddah meeting between oil producer and consumer nations will be held on Sunday
[12:58] {Threei} OK guys, time for me to go to airport
[12:58] {Threei} be safe
[12:59] {Threei} help each other to find something good on Monday
[12:59] {Threei} I'll be back on Tuesday, with my trout unholstered
[12:59] {_Lisa_Jay} Thanks Vad. Hav fun.
[12:59] {dino} take care 3i
[13:00] {magoo} take care vad
[13:00] {Roman} 21 bye
[13:00] {dptl} you flying somewhere?
06[13:00] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[13:00] {dptl} :)
[13:00] {Threei} thank you dp for this opportunity, it's a great way for me to end the week
[13:00] {dptl} lol
[13:00] {Threei} take care all :)

Thursday, June 19, 2008

Jun 19 2008

Session Time: Thu Jun 19 00:00:00 2008
[08:03] {Threei} 06/17/08 05:58pm [ESLR] Stanford Group Analyst Initiates ESLR with Buy
[08:03] {Threei} 06/18/08 04:54pm
[08:03] {Threei} [ESLR] Evergreen Solar Inc Signs two new sales contracts for a total of $600M
[08:03] {Threei} - These contracts extend through 2012 and bring the company's total contractual backlog to approximately $1.7B.
[08:03] {Threei} - The contracts are with US-based groSolar and German-based Wagner & Co Solartechnik GmbH.
[08:03] {Threei} - These two contracts plus two others previously announced contracts represent approximately 65% of the expected 160MW of annual production capacity at Devens through 2013.
[08:04] {Threei} 08:00am [ESLR] Introduces New ES-A Series String Ribbon (TM) Solar Panels at InterSolar 2008 in Munich, Germany
[08:04] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad, dptl, hawkfan4, jmb.
[08:05] {Threei} Good morning lisa
[08:05] {Threei} don't have ESLR quotes yet... anyone see it trading?
[08:05] {hawkfan4} gm all, trading 11.57, up 1.34
[08:06] {Threei} ty hawk
[08:06] {hawkfan4} np
[08:06] {Threei} 12 is huge resistance for it
[08:07] {Threei} if it ever breaks it, not much to keep it down
[08:07] {Threei} the only problem is, this stock is notorious for not holding gains
[08:08] {Threei} - This new line of 200, 205 and 210 W solar panels features the most powerful products Evergreen Solar has produced. And with a -0, +5W specification, the ES-A Series also provides the best power tolerance currently available in the industry.
[08:08] {Threei} - The carbon footprint of these panels is up to 50% smaller than that of its competitors'. These solar panels also have the quickest energy payback, now as fast as 12 months for installed panels.
[08:08] {hawkfan4} yep, but it sure does look good over 12
[08:09] {Threei} I don't know if today is the day... there are a lot of sellers in this one. But if it finally does break, we have a runner on our hands I believe
[08:10] {Threei} Short Percent of Float 23.54 %
[08:10] {Threei} not bad
[08:13] {Threei} you can tell I am intrigued :)
[08:13] {hawkfan4} i could have used this news yesterday, had big size from 10.09, sold 10.40
[08:13] {Threei} it came after hours
[08:15] {Threei} PREVIEW: US INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS DATA DUE OUT AT 8:30 AM ET
[08:15] {Threei} - Expectations for initial claims are 375K v prior release of 384K.
[08:15] {Threei} - Continuing claims seen at 3.135M v prior 3.139M.
[08:23] {Threei} ROYL is another hero candidate
[08:25] {Threei} andf if it moves, OMNI is sector sympathy play
[08:26] {hawkfan4} yep, just put omni on the screen
[08:27] {Threei} there is some contradiction though between these two candidates
[08:28] {Threei} ESLR is likely to move when oil is strong, while ROYL needs oil weakening
[08:29] {Threei} there are some signs of solar sector starting to disconnect from oil lately... but it hasn't shaped up enough yet
[08:30] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 381K V 375KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 3.06M V 3.135ME
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Initial Jobless Claims revised from 384K to 386K
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Continuing Claims revised from 3.139M to 3.136M
[08:39] {Threei} some enthusiasm ESLR
[08:40] {Threei} yesterday after hours it topped around 11.80 - .85
[08:44] {Threei} would love to see .50 holding, .65 broken...
[08:44] {Threei} that would lay a good foundation for a squeeze,
[08:45] {Threei} then 12 break should put it in category of Oh Wow
[08:45] {hawkfan4} got some .53 avg, also have JASO small from 21.11, grabbed it in after hours . SOLF was really strong yesterday too
[08:46] {Threei} overall, this sector serves us well from last fall
[08:47] {Threei} if we are confessing... took .50 :)
[08:47] {hawkfan4} seriously, i keep thinking i'm going to have to move on, but they are pretty darn reliable
[08:47] {hawkfan4} :)
[08:47] {Threei} as long as momentum is there... milk it :)
[08:48] {Threei} beating myself for not taking SATC at 3 yesterday
[08:48] {Threei} really didn't want to commit to swing trade... but chart was so darn perfect
[08:49] {hawkfan4} i passed too, was thinking closer to 2.80, the 20 sma. looked like it wanted to get there
[08:51] {Threei} up 28 cents
[08:51] {Threei} would have been 3-5K candidate
[08:51] {Threei} sigh
[08:51] {Threei} 32 cents
[08:52] {hawkfan4} i had 3k ESLR yesterday. sigh
[08:54] {Threei} ROYL is trading above 52 week high
[08:57] {fernp} Good morning
[08:57] {Threei} fern :)
[08:57] {Threei} replay isn't working still?
[08:58] {fernp} no
[08:58] {Threei} will contact them again after market...
[08:58] {Threei} we are watching ESLR and ROYL
[08:59] {Threei} really want to see .50 holding
[09:00] {fernp} After Hours: ESLR +14.5% (signs two new sales contracts totaling ~$600 mln);
[09:00] {Threei} yup
[09:00] {Threei} and upgrade, adn unveiled new solar panels
[09:00] {Threei} more effective than old ones
[09:01] {Threei} oil jumping up
[09:01] {Threei} (again)
[09:01] {hawkfan4} yep
[09:01] {Threei} let's see some sizeable buys ESLR... I miss good old relentless short squeeze
[09:03] {hawkfan4} i second that emotion
[09:05] {Threei} always hated this viscosity in ESLR
[09:05] {Threei} as if there was an elastic band on its waist, tied to some pole behind it
[09:06] {cosmo} ah...like in a bad dream...
[09:07] {Threei} my bad dreams usually involve pulling shark teeth for some reason
[09:07] {Threei} but yeah
[09:07] {GeoArb} gm
[09:07] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:08] {cosmo} hmm ... a wanna be vetinarian?
[09:08] {Threei} last thing on my mind...
[09:08] {Threei} IVAN on the move again
[09:10] {cosmo} ESLR needs to hold 11.30 ..should hold 11.40 imho
[09:10] {Threei} true
[09:10] {Threei} I would prefer it to hold .50 though
[09:10] {_Lisa_Jay} tra
[09:11] {_Lisa_Jay} sorry wrong screen.
[09:13] {Threei} take that .65 ESLR
[09:13] {Threei} will I hate to beg for each cent or what
[09:13] {Threei} have
[09:15] {dino} gm all
[09:15] {magoo} lksd,hsrlkifhlfhlkghsrkfhek : )
[09:15] {Threei} dino, magoo :)
[09:16] {Threei} [08:58] {Threei} we are watching ESLR and ROYL
[09:17] {magoo} u take anything premkt?
[09:18] {cosmo} coffee
[09:18] {Threei} ESLR
[09:18] {cosmo} ah..yea
[09:18] {Threei} .50
[09:18] {Threei} stop under .30
[09:18] {magoo} ok
[09:18] {Threei} if squezes, planning to dump half somewhere .80- .90, and hol,d half for break of 12 and real run
[09:19] {cosmo} someday solars as a group will have an open break
[09:20] {magoo} u holding it into open?
[09:21] {cosmo} .44 and .39 stops
[09:21] {Threei} unless it reaches my target before that :)
06[09:22] * Threei points to 11.61 offer and tells ESLR "there boy, there, go get it!"
[09:22] {Threei} good boy
[09:22] {Threei} can you believe I never had a dog?
[09:26] {cosmo} gee... that's lucky...
[09:28] {peterg} hello!?
[09:28] {Threei} hi peter
[09:28] {Threei} ESLR on radar
[09:28] {peterg} k
[09:30] {magoo} ESLR news vad?
[09:30] {Threei} new contracts, new products, upgrade
[09:31] {Threei} .50 break long if holding above .35
[09:32] {Threei} oil drop holding it back I suppose
[09:32] {Threei} should break
[09:33] {magoo} in .50
[09:34] {Threei} ABAY again
[09:34] {Threei} ABAT
[09:34] {cosmo} ESLR needs to hold 11.30 ..should hold 11.40 imho
[09:34] {esemde} morning...late but morning
[09:34] {Threei} ese :)
[09:34] {dino} news bphx?
[09:34] {Threei} not good ESLR
[09:34] {cosmo} not today...
[09:34] {dino} ty
[09:35] {fernp} stopped
[09:35] {peterg} out for now
[09:35] {peterg} abat
[09:35] {magoo} stopped
[09:36] {dino} sm l bphx .99, wide
[09:37] {esemde} nice jump
[09:38] {esemde} another 600mil contract
[09:38] {Threei} [09:30] {Threei} new contracts, new products, upgrade
[09:38] {Threei} tough to find right entry on it
[09:40] {magoo} right now entire solar sector not performing
[09:40] {Threei} because of sharp drop in oil
[09:40] {Roman} 21 COIN
[09:41] {Roman} 21 in small
[09:41] {Roman} 21 7.50 area bidding some more
[09:41] {Roman} 21 NCOC continues
[09:44] {dino} bphx stopped
[09:46] {magoo} man..RIMM totally disconnected from naz here
[09:47] {Threei} ROYL doesn't look inspiring
[09:47] {Threei} who is up to second try on ESLR, .31 long if stays above .20
[09:47] {pita} gm all
[09:47] {Threei} pita :)
[09:47] {magoo} i am
[09:47] {dino} oil dropping fwiw
[09:47] {magoo} revenge
[09:48] {Threei} too bad you missed yesterday pita
[09:48] {Threei} that was pure "can do no wrong"
[09:49] {pita} just my luck
[09:49] {Threei} even Chaeron had Midas touch
[09:50] {Threei} and considering that he is known as plays killer, that tells you something {G}
[09:50] {pita} eslr good here?
[09:50] {Threei} yeah
[09:50] {Threei} stop is tight enough
[09:51] {esemde} I think i'm going to a small at .31 ESLR
[09:51] {pita} in .31
[09:51] {Threei} hard to believe it's not ready to squeeze yet
[09:51] {esemde} check that....trading screen just died
[09:51] {pita} stop?
[09:51] {Threei} news don't get better than that
[09:51] {Threei} chart's nice
[09:51] {Threei} short interest is over 20%
[09:52] {Threei} tempting barrier at 12 is just ahead12
[09:52] {Threei} what else does this thing need
[09:52] {esemde} Ok back on line...is that ESLR Vad
[09:52] {Threei} yes sir
[09:52] {esemde} short interest 20%
[09:52] {Threei} it always traded viscously... but some day it should change its ways
[09:53] {peterg} vicious or viscous?
[09:53] {peterg} the one is mean, thje other gooey
[09:53] {Threei} viscous
[09:53] {peterg} gooey
[09:53] {Threei} [09:05] {Threei} always hated this viscosity in ESLR
[09:53] {Threei} [09:05] {Threei} as if there was an elastic band on its waist, tied to some pole behind it
[09:53] {peterg} sticky
[09:53] {esemde} leslr .30
[09:54] {esemde} thats long
[09:54] {Threei} PTEN
[09:54] {Threei} .50 break half lot long
[09:55] {Threei} if holding above .30
[09:55] {Threei} jeez
[09:55] {Threei} look at ROYL
[09:55] {Threei} thing just waited for me to stop watching it
[09:55] {dino} smts l .45
[09:56] {Threei} here is deal with PTEN
[09:56] {Threei} I call for half lot because it's not very safe stock,
[09:56] {Threei} but at the same time it has potential for more that scalp
[09:56] {Threei} so, if you are fine with this stop on full size, I'd suggest taking full lot,
[09:56] {Threei} scalping half,
[09:57] {Threei} and leaving other half for something like closer to 35
[09:57] {Threei} see this sharp tail on red bar?
[09:57] {Threei} this is what I mean by "not very safe"
[09:57] {_Lisa_Jay} eco data out at 10
[09:58] {esemde} looking at the ESLR Chart....that short interest may kick in seriously after 12 Vad...breakout of 3 month resistance would probably scare the crap out of them
[09:58] {Threei} US REP STUPAK AND TEAM REPORTEDLY TO PROPOSE ENERGY BILL CONCERNING SPECULATION ON FRIDAY
[09:58] {Threei} - Note the bill was speculated to place certain trading limits on speculation, may aim to close certain abilities for bilateral swaps
[09:58] {Threei} exactly ese
[09:58] {esemde} 12 looks key to me
[09:58] {GeoArb} where do I look for short interest?
[09:59] {judijim} good morning all
[09:59] {Threei} [08:06] {Threei} 12 is huge resistance for it
[09:59] {Threei} [08:07] {Threei} if it ever breaks it, not much to keep it down
[09:59] {Threei} [08:07] {Threei} the only problem is, this stock is notorious for not holding gains
[09:59] {esemde} would probably run to about 14/15 i think
[09:59] {Threei} [08:09] {Threei} I don't know if today is the day... there are a lot of sellers in this one. But if it finally does break, we have a runner on our hands I believe
[09:59] {Threei} [08:10] {Threei} Short Percent of Float 23.54 %
[09:59] {Threei} jj :)
[10:00] {GeoArb} its on your platform vad?
[10:00] {esemde} yes i see what you mean with the may 22nd gap up
[10:00] {Threei} MAY LEADING INDICATORS: 0.1% V 0.0%E
[10:00] {Threei} just a sec geo
[10:00] {Threei} JUNE PHILADELPHIA INDEX: -17.1 V -10.0E
[10:01] {Threei} http://shortsqueeze.com/
[10:01] {GeoArb} ty
[10:02] {pita} stop eslr?
[10:02] {Threei} stopped
[10:02] {patience} vad, Largo Resources, LGO, on Vancouver exchange, look at chart today
[10:03] {Threei} [09:47] {Threei} who is up to second try on ESLR, .31 long if stays above .20
[10:03] {esemde} i'm still in with small lot ...i think this is worth holding onto
[10:03] {esemde} will consider adding more at some point
[10:04] {pita} misread
[10:04] {Threei} I guess not today
[10:05] {Roman} 21 stopped COIN
[10:05] {Roman} 21 -.24
[10:06] {Threei} keep stops tight guys, we had it too easy last few days
[10:07] {Threei} payback sooner or later comes inevitably, trader's job is keep damage to minimum
[10:08] {esemde} hmmm just noticed...ESLR has triple bottom.....very strong indicator for a swing long
[10:08] {dino} hun l .39
[10:09] {peterg} ROYL now?
[10:09] {Threei} can't read it
[10:11] {magoo} ah.RIMM reconnects to naz
[10:11] {magoo} but stronger
[10:14] {Threei} CSIQ, small shares long either on next dump under .50
[10:14] {Threei} or on 49 break if holding .75
[10:15] {Chaeron} Good morning all
[10:15] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:16] {Chaeron} was going to ask SQNM short under .75
[10:16] {magoo} chaerbroil:)
[10:17] {Chaeron} hey mags, ese:)
[10:17] {Threei} not sure SQNM
[10:17] {Chaeron} thanks Threei, good morning to you
[10:19] {Threei} maybe it's time to abandon solar sector for a while
[10:20] {Threei} all ideas that worked flawlessly in it over last days and weeks seem tired
[10:20] {peterg} just when I went long....
[10:20] {Threei} just no same oomh that pushed them all for us
[10:20] {magoo} all down vad..fslr,csun.solf jaso
[10:21] {Threei} look at USO spiking
[10:21] {magoo} meaning?
[10:21] {Threei} solars should follow
[10:21] {Threei} yet CSIQ following is fibble
[10:22] {Threei} SOLF is almost dead
[10:22] {Threei} JASO is dead without almost
[10:22] {magoo} is PTEN solar}?
[10:22] {peterg} go CSIQ
[10:22] {Threei} energy but not solar
[10:23] {magoo} oil?
[10:24] {dino} de sm l .60
[10:24] {magoo} took CSIQ .96 btw
[10:24] {Threei} provides onshore contract drilling services to exploration and production companies in North America. The Company has approximately 350 currently marketable land-based drilling rigs that operate primarily in oil and natural gas producing regions
[10:24] {magoo} .95 actually
[10:24] {peterg} go magoo
[10:24] {magoo} ah..ty..big demand there
[10:26] {Threei} CANADIAN OPPOSITION LIBERALS REPORTEDLY WANT NEW CARBON TAX, TAX WILL BE COUNTERACTED BY TRIMMING INCOME TAXES
[10:26] {Threei} I want them off the island
[10:27] {magoo} took PTEN off .43 btw
[10:27] {Threei} don't oversit CSIQ
[10:27] {magoo} lil aggressive entries
[10:27] {pita} will eslr follow?
[10:27] {magoo} ESLR blows
[10:27] {Threei} I'd leave it alone
[10:27] {magoo} CSIQ could rock
[10:27] {pita} been painful so far
[10:28] {Threei} PTEN looks good
[10:28] {magoo} indeed pten
[10:28] {Threei} you took full l,ot mags? or half?
[10:28] {peterg} out CSIQ + .66
[10:28] {Threei} wtg peter
[10:29] {dino} gj
[10:29] {peterg} greed sez go back for more but ill wait
[10:29] {magoo} half..i haven't played full lots in a month
[10:29] {magoo} to volatile
[10:29] {Threei} wait... let it come to you
[10:29] {Threei} OK... just wanted to remind that if full lot, dump half
[10:29] {Threei} 'cause you do tend to forget to sell {G}
[10:30] {magoo} waiting .90 CSIQ
[10:30] {peterg} hat off to you if you make it
[10:31] {magoo} take hat off..OUT
[10:31] {magoo} + .96
06[10:32] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:32] {peterg} wtg magoo
[10:32] {peterg} waving my stetson at you
[10:32] {Threei} just in time
[10:32] {Threei} look at it diving
[10:32] {Chaeron} gj magoo
[10:32] {dino} gj
[10:33] {magoo} i think laser was only .90 fill there lol
[10:35] {dino} out hun .20 +.81
[10:36] {Chaeron} nice one dino
[10:36] {dino} ty
[10:36] {magoo} wow ..dino is back with vengance
[10:36] {hawkfan4} nice dino
[10:36] {dino} ty
[10:38] {Threei} good one
[10:38] {Threei} scary too
[10:40] {Threei} sheesh ESLR
[10:41] {Threei} disgusting display of unreadability
[10:41] {cosmo} ..just like clockwork
[10:42] {GeoArb} uso has been consolidating on highs last couple of days
[10:43] {Threei} yeah... scary
[10:43] {GeoArb} oil going to break highs?
[10:43] {GeoArb} and market? :)
[10:43] {Threei} I am afraid so
[10:43] {magoo} out PTEN dime
[10:43] {GeoArb} well I am going to put my shorting shorts on
[10:43] {GeoArb} :)
[10:44] {_Lisa_Jay} ENT
[10:45] {peterg} Ear Nose and Throat
[10:46] {peterg} Sorry
[10:46] {Threei} lol
[10:46] {Threei} PEGA?
[10:46] {Threei} no news that I see
[10:47] {GeoArb} declares 0.03 dividend
[10:48] {Roman} 21 CHNR
[10:49] {Roman} 21 moving on the china news
[10:50] {Roman} 21 China Government says jet kerosene prices to increase by 25% - DJ
[10:50] {Roman} 21 CTDC on radar
[10:53] {Roman} 21 long CPSL
[10:53] {dino} ipi sm l .75
[10:53] {Roman} 21 5.20 1/2 size, stop 5.04\
[10:56] {magoo} just got off phone w/PTEN..nasty b*stard
[10:56] {Threei} PTEN reached 35
[10:56] {Threei} and ESLR, I don't even have words to describe its behavior
[10:57] {Roman} 21 long VNDA
[10:57] {Roman} 21 5.52 area
[10:58] {Roman} 21 long CSUN
[10:58] {Roman} 21 small 11.92 area
[10:59] {Roman} 21 cpsl
[11:02] {magoo} CSIQ should go green..not in
[11:03] {Roman} 21 CHNR thin one
[11:04] {Roman} 21 would not be surprised if goes to $24 today
[11:04] {dino} out ipi .15 +.40
[11:04] {dino} out de .20, +.6-
[11:04] {dino} +.60
[11:05] {Threei} wtg
[11:05] {Threei} beautiful hitting rate
[11:05] {Threei} I am cold as cucumber today
[11:05] {dino} just lucky
[11:05] {Roman} 21 CPSL looking for $5.6
[11:09] {Threei} ZION
[11:09] {esemde} Ok I'mm otta here everyone...gving 2 exams...still long ESLR...much different looking bar than the may 22nd gap up
[11:09] {Threei} .83 short
[11:09] {Threei} if stays under 31
[11:10] {Threei} take care ese :)
[11:10] {esemde} see ya vad have a great fday
[11:10] {Chaeron} bye ese
[11:10] {Roman} 21 C Citigroup on corporate call says they could face another credit value adjustment similar to last qtr from monoline exposure (20.11 -0.29) -Update-
[11:10] {Threei} I am scared even to think what he meant by fday
[11:10] {Chaeron} heheh
[11:10] {hawkfan4} lol
[11:11] {hawkfan4} C
[11:12] {hawkfan4} 11:09 C Citigroup on corporate call says they could face another credit value adjustment similar to last qtr from monoline exposure (20.11 -0.29) -Update
[11:15] {Threei} valid again ZION
[11:21] {magoo} u finally gonna get one right vad?
[11:21] {magoo} as i run dfor nearest rock to hide
[11:21] {Threei} run faster
[11:21] {_Lisa_Jay} Trout Magoo?
06[11:22] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:22] {Chaeron} I 'm already behind this one... find another magoo
[11:22] {GeoArb} i thought today was opposited day
[11:22] {GeoArb} i made money on all of them
[11:22] {Threei} lol
[11:22] {Threei} good job then
[11:22] {dino} c going to 15 then\
[11:22] {magoo} :)
[11:23] {Threei} not sure why you are smiling magoo... didn't you see chaeron suggesting that we find another magoo??
[11:23] {magoo} tricky morning...vad always bounces back
[11:23] {magoo} i thought he meant magoo find another rock
[11:23] {GeoArb} (picturing vad bouncing)
[11:24] {Chaeron} hmmmmm
[11:24] {Chaeron} or did I...?
[11:24] {dino} sm l .60 bucy
[11:24] {Threei} I know... but I deliberately elected different interpretation :)
[11:24] {magoo} on a tramoline in skivvies
[11:24] {Threei} careful Geo... that image may burn one's retina :)
[11:25] {Chaeron} you guys mind? I'm trying to have my oatmeal here...........
[11:25] {GeoArb} lol
[11:25] {Threei} lol
[11:25] {Threei} oh and btw... what do you mean "get one right"? what about PTEN and CSIQ?
[11:25] {GeoArb} those were observations (runing fast....)
[11:26] {Threei} sigh... can't win, can I
[11:26] {Threei} eevn asigned target to PTEN which I seldom do
[11:26] {_Lisa_Jay} ZION working now.
[11:26] {Threei} and ZION makes new low
[11:28] {GeoArb} i have been scaling in these days.....i like it
[11:28] {dino} smts stopped -.15]
[11:30] {Threei} over 1:1 now
06[11:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[11:30] * Threei slaps GeoArb around a bit with a large trout
[11:31] {GeoArb} (accepts it humbly)
[11:31] {Threei} you better... I had another one prepared in case you wouldn't
[11:31] {magoo} didn't take zion..thought u were off today lol
[11:31] {GeoArb} i saw in chat logs you were looking for me with a trout at EOD?
[11:31] {GeoArb} lololol
[11:31] {Threei} yes
[11:32] {Threei} I wasn't completely sure why
[11:32] {Threei} but thankfully, today you helped me rationalize that desire :)
[11:32] {Threei} ESLR - I need a tissue
[11:35] {magoo} man..pass the box over vbad
[11:36] {Threei} I can't believe it fooled me like this
[11:37] {Threei} and USO dropped
[11:37] {Threei} whatever... world is not right
[11:38] {Chaeron} sigh
[11:43] {Chaeron} first Threei says that and then I read this: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/266844.php
[11:44] {dino} ipi fast fall
[11:45] {dino} sm l .24
[11:57] {Threei} so... ready to try this slime for 12 break?
[11:59] {hawkfan4} still in from .30 {ducks}
[11:59] {Threei} so is ese
[12:03] {Threei} I am out 2/3 here
[12:03] {Threei} 1/3 with stop .85
[12:04] {pita} later all
[12:04] {Threei} take care pita
[12:04] {hawkfan4} 1/2 out +1
[12:04] {Threei} wtg
[12:05] {hawkfan4} took a couple stops before i got it
[12:05] {dino} gj
[12:05] {dino} magoo said you were hot yesterday
[12:06] {hawkfan4} thx. yep, best day of the year by a bunch
[12:06] {dino} super
[12:09] {magoo} if IF ESLR prints 13 today i cut my wrists with a banana
[12:09] {Threei} and I'll eat my keyboard
[12:17] {dino} bucy stop to .99
[12:17] {Threei} trailing to .95
[12:18] {hawkfan4} starting to feel wrong that i'm rooting for oil to rally
[12:18] {Threei} hehe
[12:18] {Threei} the depth of pullback on this thing can be frightening... if it loses 12 I'll just dump it and let it be
[12:19] {dino} out .00, +.40
[12:23] {hawkfan4} out .06
[12:25] {Threei} even though I am positive for the day, I can't get rid of feeling that I am trading like a caw in ice today :)
[12:25] {Threei} cow on ice
[12:25] {GeoArb} thank you
[12:25] {GeoArb} i was thinking caw must be a canadian specie
[12:26] {Threei} no but my typing is
[12:26] {_Lisa_Jay} My trading is like that. Must be contageous.
[12:26] {Threei} lol
[12:26] {Chaeron} I thought it was a reference to Raven
[12:27] {GeoArb} lol
[12:27] {Threei} Raven vehemently denies having any links to caws
[12:28] {magoo} is a crow and raven same bird?seriously
[12:28] {Threei} not by raven
[12:31] {Raven} 3 sheesh
[12:32] {_Lisa_Jay} Sorry, got kicked out and had to reboot.
[12:33] {Chaeron} dang Vad, kicking a trialer? not good for PR
[12:35] {_Lisa_Jay} :-) No my trading platform did not like being associated with a cow (me).
[12:35] {Threei} I am not good at marketing
[12:41] {Threei} who would expect tech stock to make new 52 week highs in this climate
[12:41] {Threei} QCOM
[12:43] {magoo} i would suspect csiq has a bounce in it somewhere
[12:43] {fernp} out PAET +.09 i like this kind of easy scalp :)
[12:44] {Threei} nice setup fern
[12:44] {Threei} clean and easy
[12:44] {fernp} TY
[12:44] {Threei} US TREASURY'S PAULSON: FED MAY NEED TO OFFER LIQUIDITY TO A BROADER RANGE OF FINANCIAL FIRMS IN THE FUTURE
[12:44] {Threei} - If offered, such liquidity should be limited and focused on systemic risk.
[12:44] {Threei} - Must ensure that any new regulatory authority does not undermine market discipline.
[12:44] {magoo} raven, are they same species?
[12:45] {GeoArb} all ravens are crows
[12:45] {GeoArb} but all crows arent racens
[12:45] {GeoArb} ravens
[12:47] {Threei} for give them Raven, for they know not what they are saying
[12:48] {magoo} for give?
[12:48] {Threei} sigh
[12:48] {Threei} I mean, si gh
[12:48] {hawkfan4} l ol
[12:56] {Raven} 3 two different species magoo
[12:56] {magoo} look same right?
[12:56] {Raven} 3 similar
[12:57] {Raven} 3 several species of crows
[12:57] {Raven} 3 several species of ravens
[12:57] {GeoArb} raven is a specie of crow
[12:57] {Raven} 3 wrong
[12:57] {Raven} 3 they are of the same Genus
[12:57] {Raven} 3 Corvus
[12:57] {GeoArb} ravens belong to crow (corvus) family
[12:58] {Raven} 3 Genus is Corvus
[12:58] {Threei} I am so not good at botany...
[12:58] {GeoArb} exactly
[12:58] {GeoArb} crow is the generic term
[12:59] {Raven} 3 Family is Corvidae
[12:59] {GeoArb} yo have ravents magpies etc
[12:59] {Raven} 3 I am Corvus corax
[12:59] {Threei} Corvidae is family... Corleone is family...
[12:59] {Raven} 3 yes ... they are of family Corvidae
06[12:59] * Raven slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:59] {GeoArb} lol
[13:00] {GeoArb} neways i am not vested in this
[13:00] {Threei} was that rainbow trout family or steelhead trout family?
[13:00] {GeoArb} my impression is crow is the generic group
[13:00] {GeoArb} i may be wrong but ok
[13:00] {Raven} 3 your impression is inaccurate
[13:00] {Chaeron} surprisingly, this is one of the most intelligent conversations off the topic of investing this room has ever had...
[13:00] {Threei} lol
[13:00] {Raven} 3 TRhx Ch :)
[13:01] {Raven} 3 thx too
[13:01] {Threei} you mean my global warming tirades were not intelligent?
[13:01] {Threei} or not illegible?
[13:02] {GeoArb} but you goota tell us whay that name now raven
[13:03] {magoo} and who introduced it ? lol
[13:03] {Raven} 3 ? Geo
[13:04] {GeoArb} the nickname raven
[13:04] {Raven} 3 why ? Uh, because I like Ravens
[13:04] {GeoArb} easy enough :)
[13:04] {Raven} 3 yup
[13:04] {Threei} and guess why hawkfan is hawkfan
[13:04] {GeoArb} thats easy
[13:05] {GeoArb} chaeron?
[13:05] {Threei} dino has a soft spot for T-Rex
[13:05] {hawkfan4} actually that was supposed to be my password but i screwed up when i entered it
[13:05] {Threei} rofl
[13:05] {GeoArb} lolol
[13:06] {Raven} 3 this is degenerating ... I will take a shower
[13:06] {Threei} it's good Raven, it means business is as usual
[13:06] {Threei} now... _3579 is real mystery
[13:07] {Threei} if it's love to odd numbers, what happened to 1?
[13:08] {_3579} lol
[13:10] {GeoArb} back
[13:11] {hawkfan4} trying ESLR again, stop under .90
[13:11] {Threei} lowr high...
[13:11] {Threei} but what do I know, I misread this stock completely
[13:12] {Threei} don't pay much attention to my comments on it
[13:12] {Threei} or on botany
[13:12] {hawkfan4} hee
[13:12] {GeoArb} btw i see where my (false) impression is coming from
[13:12] {GeoArb} A large majority of the 40 or so Corvus species are known as crows,
[13:12] {Threei} about me having third eye in the center of forehead?
[13:12] {GeoArb} http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9028018/crow
[13:13] {GeoArb} remember vad yo gotta always keep that eye closed
[13:13] {Threei} I tape it over
[13:19] {Threei} ENER
[13:19] {Threei} want deep nice pullback for long entry
[13:27] {Threei} not much of pullback so far
[13:27] {Threei} but I am hesitant to buy break on it
[13:29] {Threei} would be comfortable somewhere in 77 - 77.50 area
[13:30] {Threei} look at 1 min on it to see what kind of cruel airpockets it's capable of
[13:39] {Raven} 3 back ... Geo ... wrong again on the Corvidae
[13:41] {GeoArb} I accepted i am wrong... merely pointed a source where the confusion occurs
[13:41] {Raven} 3 4 Corvidae of 19 are Crows
[13:41] {Threei} the rest are mosquitos
[13:41] {Raven} 3 source ... schmorce
[13:41] {Raven} 3 burn that encyclopedia
[13:42] {Threei} can you burn an online version?
[13:42] {Raven} 3 hire a hacker
[13:42] {Threei} lol
[13:42] {GeoArb} did anyone buy ener on pullback?
[13:43] {Threei} was not deep enough for me
[13:43] {Threei} I was rather looking at the kind that occured twice earlier
[13:43] {Threei} 9:40 - 9:50
[13:44] {Threei} then 11:08 - 11:15
[13:44] {GeoArb} ah
[13:44] {Threei} but look how breakout would have trapped you
[13:44] {GeoArb} or rather ahhhhhhhh it hurts !!!
[13:46] {Raven} 3 Geo ... your reference might be referring to Corvids worldwide ... I am referring to North America only
[13:47] {GeoArb} thank you for that out :)
[13:47] {_Lisa_Jay} Breaking down now? Market.
[13:47] {Raven} 3 I'm guessing though
[13:47] {Threei} ok, this pullback is more to my liking
[13:47] {Threei} need panic now
[13:47] {Threei} far from it lisa
[13:47] {Threei} still very close to the high
[13:48] {Threei} will it drop from here or consolidate and break out is anyone's guess
[13:49] {_Lisa_Jay} Falg or double top on NQ
[13:49] {dino} out ipi .05 +.81
[13:49] {magoo} how come u never think to short the anticipated pullbk?
[13:49] {GeoArb} i love dino's style
[13:50] {Threei} I need indication of it starting
[13:50] {GeoArb} pacman.... keeps chomping along
[13:50] {Threei} with ENER, there was none, ranges are too wide
[13:50] {dino} lol geo
[13:50] {Threei} lol
[13:50] {Threei} T-Rex Pacman
[13:51] {GeoArb} steady bites throut the day
[13:51] {Threei} dino just plugs along, whatever happens
[13:51] {GeoArb} yup
[13:51] {dino} stress free trading
[13:51] {Threei} my favorite kind
[13:51] {GeoArb} wish i get there some day
[13:51] {_Lisa_Jay} Dino wanted to thank you for your comment about the "probabilities" and "throw all book learning out" comments.
[13:51] {Threei} you will Geo
[13:52] {dino} yw lisa
[13:52] {_Lisa_Jay} Read your posts on old chat room logs. Stopped buying more books much to the delight of my spouse.
[13:52] {GeoArb} hehe
[13:52] {GeoArb} link lisa?
[13:52] {Threei} I'll have to insert a correction here... "throw out all books but TTR and MPP" {G}
[13:52] {dino} lol, fwiw, the less i know coming into each day the better i trade
[13:52] {GeoArb} lol
[13:53] {Threei} this is very true dino
[13:53] {dino} i used to get up at 6:00 am, watch the news until markets opened at 9;30 am, now get up at 6:30, read local paper and go for 2 mile walk
[13:53] {Threei} it's through many complications that we come to this simplicity
[13:54] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. I have been following vad's style for past month and am finally green since i started trading.
[13:54] {Threei} but when you are there you won't trade it for all the knowledge in the world
[13:54] {dino} great to hear
[13:54] {Threei} one thing about TTR and MPP that makes them different
[13:54] {Threei} they are not written be academic who never traded
[13:55] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[13:55] {Threei} nor by someone who may be a trader but have written a book in order to look more than he is or get in the cicrles where you need to have a book out
[13:55] {GeoArb} youre saying you didnt pay the ghostwriter?
[13:55] {Threei} it's a practical things
[13:56] {Threei} I have meny e-mails saying something to the effect:
[13:57] {magoo} ghost rider? hey, that was magoo this past weekend
[13:57] {Threei} reading it I felt as though you looked over my shoulder
[13:58] {_Lisa_Jay} You seemed to have experienced all the emotions at one time or another in your trading.
[13:58] {Threei} sure... name the mistake, I made it
[14:00] {magoo} u ever spill a coke on keyboartd
[14:00] {Threei} coffee
[14:00] {Threei} remember blackout on East Coast?
[14:01] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:01] {_Lisa_Jay} down
[14:01] {Threei} ENER is doing it
[14:02] {hawkfan4} stopped eslr
[14:02] {Threei} move your butt SATC... daddy needs new lens for his camera
[14:04] {magoo} did u call SATC today?
[14:05] {Threei} b*tched about not taking it yesterda when it opened with gap... then took pullback 3.10
[14:05] {Threei} I posted it
[14:05] {magoo} ok
[14:06] {Threei} it his 3.32 before open
[14:07] {magoo} CSIQ for a bounce vad??
[14:07] {Threei} feels to me like destined to lose 48
[14:07] {Threei} after that maybe
[14:08] {peterg} Networking monitors--MaxiVista?
[14:08] {Threei} alternatively, if it pulls back not too deep from here, then break .45-.50
[14:08] {Threei} what's that peter?
[14:08] {peterg} a way to network monitors
[14:08] {Threei} never heard
[14:08] {peterg} one mouse rules all machines.
[14:09] {Threei} machines?
[14:09] {peterg} computers
[14:09] {Threei} it's one machine, 4 monitors for me
[14:09] {peterg} how networked?
[14:09] {peterg} plugged
[14:09] {Threei} two videocards, 2 heads each
[14:09] {peterg} I see
[14:09] {Threei} Nvidia
[14:09] {peterg} heard of it
[14:10] {Threei} install their drivers, go to Display - Properties - Advanced, make one monitor primary and extened Windows to three others
[14:10] {Threei} that's it, simple like rake
[14:11] {peterg} MaxiVista supposed to do same
[14:11] {peterg} Will report
[14:13] {Threei} too sharp spike into rtesistance CSIQ
[14:13] {Threei} not sure
[14:13] {Threei} I like them coming into break more smoothly
[14:13] {_Lisa_Jay} ener?
[14:14] {dino} ipi l .70
[14:17] {Threei} nah
[14:17] {Threei} never saw aentry
[14:19] {magoo} if solars get active csiq should bounce..not in
[14:20] {Threei} actually, CSIQ is likely to lead that bounce
[14:20] {magoo} i thought maybe FSLR lead
[14:21] {Threei} last few days FSLR sat in the basement while CSIQ took the charge
[14:21] {Threei} latest leader
[14:21] {Threei} they trade places
[14:22] {Threei} probably worth a try here with stop under .30
[14:22] {Threei} just keep it small
[14:23] {magoo} in
[14:23] {magoo} .50
[14:27] {Threei} good boy CSIQ
[14:31] {magoo} don';t praise it yet
[14:31] {Threei} it moved over 1:2
[14:31] {magoo} oh come on
[14:32] {magoo} small shares remember
[14:32] {Threei} ahhh... you don't take anything less than coupla points...
[14:32] {dino} anss
[14:32] {Threei} 50 cents, sheesh... small shares is not 10 shares right?
[14:33] {magoo} 300
[14:33] {magoo} sh
[14:36] {dino} out ipi .30 +.60
[14:36] {Threei} nice
[14:36] {Threei} half out SATC
[14:37] {dino} ty
[14:37] {Threei} 2 more cents and it takes 52 week high
[14:57] {magoo} sidetracked, out csiq awhile back at .72
[14:57] {magoo} ty vad
[14:58] {Threei} we (yawn) lcome
[15:08] {dino} anss s .50 sm
[15:08] {Threei} FED'S KOHN: SEES GRADUAL FINANCIAL MARKET IMPROVEMENT, NOTES THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES - Q&A
[15:08] {Threei} what good is he then?
[15:09] {Threei} pleasant drop oil
[15:09] {Threei} how about drop 10 points and start widespread panic
[15:11] {magoo} u using USO to watch oil?
[15:13] {Threei} real time yes, to see the price itself - www.oil-price.net
[15:14] {cosmo} 105 pivot
[15:27] {dino} anss bstop to .10
[15:27] {dino} cov +.40
[15:31] {cosmo} SLAB maybe
[15:33] {dino} bucy l .30
[15:34] {_Lisa_Jay} where would your stop on Bucy be Dino?
[15:38] {dino} ,97
[15:39] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you.
[15:39] {dino} np
[15:40] {dino} generally i run stops .30-.37, and look to get min. .40 out of trade
[15:44] {dino} thing is whippy goes from .17 to .37 and back in seconds
[15:45] {_Lisa_Jay} yes.
[15:48] {magoo} ok..ty vad..everybody
[15:49] {_Lisa_Jay} Bye Magoo.
[15:49] {Threei} take care mags
[15:49] {peterg} Bye
[15:49] {Threei} profitable day even though not as spectacular as a few before
[15:50] {Threei} not really complaining
[15:50] {dino} running out of time on bucy, will cut it soon regardless
[15:51] {Threei} will take second half of SATC overnight
[15:51] {Threei} hopefully it announces some 2-bil contract and opens at 10
[15:51] {dino} stop to .19 on bucy
[15:52] {dino} stopped -.11, sorry lisa
[15:52] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[15:53] {_Lisa_Jay} Considering where it is now, that was a good exit.
[15:53] {dino} lol lucky
[15:54] {dino} will watch it tomorrow
[15:54] {_Lisa_Jay} Are u using hard stop in the system or manually kill trade?
[15:54] {dino} on naz hard stops on dow stocks, manual
[15:54] {dino} some reason, dow stocks rinse my hard stops all the time
[15:55] {_Lisa_Jay} because they can see the stop on nyse?
[15:55] {dino} i think so
[15:56] {dino} ok, calling it a day, thx all, good one
[15:56] {Threei} thank you all
[15:56] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:56] {_Lisa_Jay} Thanks a lot Vad.
[15:56] {dino} wow bucy drops more
[15:56] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.

Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Jun 18 2008

Session Time: Wed Jun 18 00:00:00 2008
[08:05] {Threei} [FDX] Fedex Corp Reports Q4 $1.45 (ex items) v $1.47e, R $9.87B v $9.6Be
[08:05] {Threei} - Guides Q1 EPS $0.80-1.00 v $1.27e.
[08:05] {Threei} - Guides FY09 EPS $4.75-$5.25 v $5.92e
[08:05] {Threei} - Fedex states "This guidance incorporates the current high fuel prices and the related impact on fuel surcharges, which are reducing demand for FedEx services and impacting yield across the company's transportation segments. This outlook assumes no additional increases to current fuel prices and no further weakening in the economy."
[08:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad.
[08:13] {Threei} Good morning :)
[08:15] {Threei} Ordinary Germans have begun to reject euro bank notes with serial numbers from Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal, raising concerns that public support for monetary union may be waning in the eurozone's anchor country
[08:15] {Threei} jeez, is world in troubles or what
[08:23] {_Lisa_Jay} It would seem so with futures down today :-)
[08:52] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH TO MAKE OIL DRILLING STATEMENT AT 10:35AM ET - WHITE HOUSE STATEMENT
[08:59] {fernp} Good morning
[09:00] {dptl} good morning all
[09:00] {Threei} fern, dp :)
[09:03] {GeoArb} .
[09:03] {Threei} fine point
[09:03] {GeoArb} gm
[09:03] {Threei} geo :)
[09:03] {GeoArb} no replay today for me?
[09:04] {Threei} chat host has difficulties
[09:04] {GeoArb} ok
[09:04] {Threei} not sure it's plausible to waste time trying to fix, we are in a process of searching for new one
[09:05] {GeoArb} ok
[09:12] {pita} gm all
[09:12] {Threei} pita :)
[09:15] {cosmo} BEXP
[09:17] {cosmo} Brigham Exploration announces Southern Louisiana discoveryBriefing.com(Wed 6:06am)
[09:22] {esemde} morning....
[09:22] {Threei} ese :)
[09:26] {cosmo} BEXP pre mkt high = 18.55 fwiw
[09:26] {cosmo} testing
[09:31] {Threei} BEXP cross back over 18 worth a try if holding 17.80
[09:31] {cosmo} hmmm
[09:32] {Threei} .50 nearest support now
[09:32] {cosmo} speech in one hour...
[09:32] {cosmo} fwiw
[09:33] {Raven} 3 what will you speak about, cosmo ?
[09:33] {magoo} morning
[09:33] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:33] {Raven} 3 m a g o o
[09:33] {cosmo} "there are no coincidences"
[09:34] {cosmo} i think
[09:34] {Raven} 3 I will tune in
[09:36] {Threei} SOLF 21 break long if holding above 20.80
[09:37] {Threei} don't chase
[09:37] {Threei} broke too fast
[09:37] {Threei} if pullas back into 21, worth retry
[09:37] {Threei} gave second chance, stop under 20.80
[09:39] {Threei} 1:1, half out
[09:40] {Threei} 1:2, out in full
[09:42] {hawkfan4} beauty vad, +.38 thx
[09:42] {Threei} :)
[09:43] {Threei} ABAT
[09:43] {Threei} 5 long trigger
[09:43] {Threei} if holding above 4.75
[09:47] {Threei} ugh
[09:48] {Threei} missed ARBA 16 break
[09:48] {Threei} if pulls back closer to 16 will be interested
[09:49] {judijim} good morning everyone
[09:49] {Threei} jj :)
[09:49] {Threei} ROYL, half lot .25 long
[09:49] {Threei} very risky one
[09:49] {magoo} ever have tis issue vad, i try to add symbol it shows in the white highlite as i type in but won't stay or load
[09:49] {Threei} stop under 9
[09:50] {Threei} let's better keep stop under 9.10
[09:50] {Threei} better get shaken out than let it go too far against us
[09:51] {fernp} out ARRS +.11 llitle scalp . Thanks for SOLF Vad
[09:51] {Threei} fern :)
[09:51] {Threei} no mags, not sure what the cause
[09:51] {magoo} i rebooted to correct it
[09:51] {magoo} ty
[09:53] {Threei} stopped ROYL
[09:53] {Threei} don't want to get stuck with it, too volatile
[09:55] {Threei} watching CSIQ
[09:55] {esemde} am gonna bstop ESLR at 10.41 again....have done well with this since last week
[09:55] {Threei} CSIQ pullback buy
[09:55] {Threei} very hard to nail exact entry
[09:57] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE SAYS THAT LIFTING OFFSHORE DRILLING BAN WOULD HAVE AN EFFECTR ON OIL PRICE, BUT WOULD BE DIFFUCALT TO QUANTIFY
[09:58] {Threei} good spot to try CSIQ
[09:58] {Threei} stop under .50
[09:58] {Threei} don't chase
[09:58] {Threei} either you got it around .80 or let it go
[10:00] {Threei} ROYL fooled me eh?
[10:03] {Threei} OMNI
[10:04] {Threei} .70 break long, ROYL sympathy
[10:04] {Threei} low volume
[10:04] {Threei} stop under .50
[10:04] {Roman} 21 long COIN
[10:04] {Roman} 21 7.00 small
[10:05] {Roman} 21 long NCOC 9.01 small
[10:05] {Threei} ARBA never gave a chance really?
[10:09] {_Lisa_Jay} Pnra took it for a .30 scalp...still going :-(
[10:09] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 COIN +.50
[10:09] {Threei} nice COIN
[10:09] {Threei} Lisa... profit is profit
[10:09] {Threei} volatile one, could turn on you just as well
[10:10] {Roman} 21 out remaining COIN +.68
[10:10] {magoo} beauty roman
[10:11] {Roman} 21 ty, u took some?
[10:12] {kazaam} what do u think of APWR?
[10:12] {magoo} i missed
[10:12] {Threei} CSIQ new highs
[10:12] {Threei} that 50 looks to be reached
[10:13] {_Lisa_Jay} Do you have limit orders on omni? Moved 10c very fast.
[10:13] {Threei} I hate the spread kaz
[10:13] {Roman} 21 SEED
[10:13] {Roman} 21 long off 6
[10:13] {Threei} had .72 limit Lisa, hit it as .70 started scroling fast and got .70
[10:13] {Roman} 21 off 7.00 SEED
[10:14] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you Vad.
[10:15] {Chaeron} Good morning all
[10:15] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:15] {Chaeron} no replay... may I ask what we're playing/stalking?
[10:15] {hawkfan4} csiq sweet vad, 1/2 out +.76
[10:16] {Threei} hawk :)
[10:16] {Threei} in OMNI chaeron
[10:16] {Threei} but don't chase
[10:16] {Threei} entry 12 cents ago
[10:16] {Chaeron} nice
[10:16] {cosmo} ABAT breaks...
[10:16] {Threei} almost
[10:16] {Threei} trigger is intact
[10:16] {Threei} held .75
[10:17] {cosmo} soon
[10:17] {Threei} there
[10:17] {Threei} has real runner potential
[10:17] {magoo} which?ABAT?
[10:17] {Threei} yes
[10:17] {cosmo} just like a bunny
[10:18] {Roman} 21 VNDA
[10:18] {Roman} 21 in small
[10:18] {Roman} 21 5.54 stop 5.25
[10:18] {Roman} 21 5.35
[10:18] {Threei} OMNI over 1:1
[10:18] {Threei} half out
[10:18] {Threei} scalpers know what to do
[10:19] {Threei} what was ABAT news?
[10:19] {Threei} my news supply doesn't even has symbol
[10:20] {Threei} ABAT over 1:1
[10:21] {kazaam} do you generally prefer long setups? curious since market opens down but only long setups are taken
[10:21] {Threei} half out +.25, stop to 4.89, letting other half run
[10:22] {Threei} I don't really care kaz
[10:22] {Threei} just didn't see any interesting short
[10:22] {cosmo} ABAT no news it seems
[10:23] {Threei} market is not homogeneous
[10:23] {Threei} it's down overall but there are sectors and stocks that move up
[10:23] {magoo} abat beauty spot vad
[10:23] {Threei} cosmo pounded the table on it yesterday
[10:24] {cosmo} that explains my sore head
[10:24] {Threei} why use your forehead for it
[10:24] {Threei} use someone's
[10:25] {cosmo} its... a passion, i guess
[10:25] {Threei} ah
[10:26] {Threei} wow VNDA
[10:26] {Threei} Roman is hot today
[10:26] {Threei} (again)
[10:27] {_Lisa_Jay} For stops do you guys us hard stops or just finger on mouse? Thanks.
[10:27] {Threei} MNST
[10:27] {Threei} looks short
[10:27] {Threei} half lot, right here
[10:27] {Threei} stop .21
[10:28] {Threei} I prefer mental stops Lisa, using hard ones only if I need to leave computer
[10:28] {hawkfan4} oil #'s in a few minutes
[10:28] {kazaam} what if you are in 2-3 plays at the same time?
[10:28] {Threei} I would never take a few of fast ones
[10:29] {Threei} and if they are slow, I can watch them with no problem
[10:29] {Threei} I mean... to play CSIQ, RIMM and AAPL at he same time, one should be either world champion in videogames or plainly insane
[10:30] {dptl} where did you get mnst Vad?....i am so slow today
[10:30] {Threei} from scanner? :)
[10:30] {dptl} lol at what price
[10:30] {Threei} oh, sorry
[10:30] {Threei} didn't mean to be smart a$$
[10:30] {Threei} 21.07
[10:31] {dptl} ty :)
[10:32] {_Lisa_Jay} [10:09] {Threei} Lisa... profit is profit
[10:32] {_Lisa_Jay} [10:09] {Threei} volatile one, could turn on you just as well
[10:32] {Threei} that's my story and I stick to it
[10:33] {_Lisa_Jay} PNRA tanked :-)
[10:33] {Threei} good... less regret :)
[10:34] {Threei} but the point is... no need for negative emotions on a winning play
[10:34] {Threei} you will have enough losing ones for that, why add :)
[10:34] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. Especially if i took another .20 scalp on it.
[10:35] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: -1.24M V -1.2ME
[10:35] {Threei} GASOLINE: -1.18M V +750KE; DISTILLATES: +2.62M V +1.8ME; UTILIZATION: 89.3% V 89.1%E
[10:35] {Threei} *API Inventory:
[10:35] {Threei} - Crude Inventories: -3.1M
[10:35] {Threei} - Gasoline: -2.4M
[10:35] {Threei} - Distillate: +1.4M
[10:35] {hawkfan4} Bush on tv, actually mentioned working on supporting "advanced batteries" . A presidential pump
[10:37] {cosmo} for batteries? ... weird...
[10:38] {hawkfan4} he's talking about lifting the ban on offshore oil..just thot it was funny, ABAT=advanced battery
[10:40] {cosmo} a battery tech breakthru would solve many problems
[10:41] {Threei} you see any news on it hawk?
[10:41] {Threei} or it's just a discovered play?
[10:42] {hawkfan4} nope, none since may
[10:42] {Threei} hmmm
[10:42] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH: REITERATES STANCE THAT RISING ENERGY PRICES ARE DUE TO HIGHER OIL PRICES
[10:42] {Threei} really?... no, really?
[10:44] {cosmo} price rising = enron x 1000?
[10:44] {cosmo} 10,000?
[10:46] {Threei} fiiinally MNST
[10:46] {dptl} out +.14 mnst ty (got 21.14 on pull back)
[10:46] {Threei} covered too
[10:46] {_Lisa_Jay} MNST....price retraced back up till .20 (stop at .21) wow. Now it is back down. Amazing or black magic?
[10:46] {Threei} both
[10:47] {Threei} kaz... there you go, short by your request :)
[10:47] {dptl} :)
[10:47] {kazaam} thank god, i dont have to take my meds now
[10:47] {kazaam} was getting twitchy
06[10:47] * Threei is thinking of offering new service: Call per Demand
[10:48] {dptl} lol
[10:48] {kazaam} heh
[10:48] {Threei} for a small administrative fee of just $100 per call you will be able to order your own call
[10:52] {Roman} 21 BDCO
[10:57] {dptl} lpx?
[10:59] {Threei} hard to tell... stalled, no momentum
[10:59] {dptl} pk ty
[10:59] {dptl} ok
[11:04] {hawkfan4} bexp close to 17 vad?, stop under .90?
[11:05] {Threei} if gets there... just not on price alone, watch for tide to turn
[11:05] {Threei} pure risk based setup
[11:05] {hawkfan4} ok, thanks
[11:06] {Threei} SATC bothers me... daily is classic pullback into support
[11:07] {Threei} very tempting... I just hate that it's so slow, not likely to be resolved as a day trade
[11:07] {Threei} and swing trade in this climate is not very sttractive
[11:08] {magoo} agree..
[11:12] {peterg} How do you use Intelliscan? I have Euphoria, Capitulation, JBE & DBI Seems good place to start. Recommendations?
[11:14] {Threei} you can download my layout
[11:14] {GeoArb} now thats a Q i recognize
[11:14] {Threei} to see all windows that I see
[11:14] {GeoArb} be carefull with that layout though peter.... :)
[11:14] {Threei} lol
[11:14] {peterg} seemed like information overload when I did it.
[11:15] {Threei} just eliminate those windows that are too much :)
[11:15] {GeoArb} it sent me into coma
[11:15] {peterg} tks
[11:15] {Threei} why do you think I never come out of it
[11:15] {peterg} I see....
[11:15] {Threei} for JBE and capitulation better use settings from my layout
[11:15] {Threei} they are tuned up better than standard
[11:16] {Threei} also, when you go to configuration, you can see a lot more of built-in strategies
[11:17] {Threei} many are fairly interesting
[11:18] {peterg} ok thanks back in hr-I'll try again and chance coma.
[11:18] {Roman} 21 BDCO
[11:18] {Roman} 21 sorry wrong window
[11:19] {GeoArb} is that for the superlicious trader window?
[11:19] {Roman} 21 :)
[11:20] {kazaam} NTRS, what would be the best way to take profit? exit half at 1:1 and then move stop to 71.00?
[11:20] {Threei} what was the entry?
[11:21] {kazaam} 70.85
[11:21] {Threei} I'd dump half here,
[11:21] {Threei} trailed stop to just under 71
[11:22] {Threei} as soon as it reaches high again, stop to under 71.10
[11:22] {Threei} which proved to be support twice already
[11:22] {Threei} and look for the next spike to exit in full
[11:23] {kazaam} on entry i had my stop at 70.40, is that reasonable or could have have gone tighter?
[11:23] {Threei} CHART WISE, JUST RIGHT
[11:23] {Threei} oops, sorry caps
[11:24] {Threei} stop to under .10 now
[11:32] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 NCOC +.40
[11:34] {Threei} wtg Roman
[11:34] {Threei} killing'em today
[11:34] {Roman} 21 MPET decent swinger
[11:34] {Threei} (again)
[11:34] {Threei} here is your spike kaz
[11:35] {magoo} pretty good reversal here
[11:35] {magoo} markets
[11:36] {Threei} ABAT is trying again
[11:36] {magoo} i exited .39..is there a long trigger vad?
[11:36] {Threei} well
[11:37] {magoo} OY
[11:37] {Threei} 5.50 is day high, huge wall with huge offers
[11:37] {Threei} eating through it is a natural trigger
[11:37] {Threei} just risky as hell
[11:37] {Threei} but all big runners are
[11:37] {Roman} 21 in MPET swing
[11:41] {esemde} i'm outta here...just kind of waited for something to happen with ESLR but.....nawwwwww!!! oh well next time
[11:41] {Chaeron} bye ese
[11:41] {Threei} take care ese
[11:41] {esemde} see ya CH
[11:41] {magoo} bye es
[11:41] {esemde} Vad
[11:41] {Threei} a lot of other fish in the barrel :)
[11:41] {esemde} and mags
[11:41] {Threei} aside of ESLR I mean
[11:42] {esemde} true......
06[11:42] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:42] {magoo} i'm in the b arrel?
[11:42] {Threei} what was that for
06[11:42] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:42] {Threei} why do I put up with this abuse
[11:42] {Threei} where is abuse department
[11:42] {Chaeron} bt
[11:42] {Threei} ABAT did it
[11:43] {Chaeron} sorry... that was supposed to read abat.... while it was eating .50
[11:44] {Threei} stop under .40?
[11:46] {Chaeron} sounds ok to me if you're asking my permision......
[11:46] {Threei} of course I do
[11:46] {Threei} abuse department is nowhere to be seen... I better keep quiet and obedient
[11:47] {hawkfan4} bexp .20, eslr .06, stop under 10, FSLR recovering
[11:47] {Chaeron} I think that same large offer at .50 just moved it to .60 and got out of the way earlier
[11:47] {Threei} nope
[11:47] {Threei} it was taken out fair and sqaure
[11:47] {Chaeron} ok good... was looking
[11:48] {Threei} CSIQ can be one more to list of candidates hawk
[11:48] {Threei} little cup and handle break at 49
[11:49] {Threei} SPWR
[11:49] {Threei} TICKING HIGHER ON CHATTER CIRCULATING ABOUT POSSIBLE LARGE CONTRACT WIN IN WESTERN CHINA
[11:49] {hawkfan4} nice
[11:49] {magoo} thatswhat im stalking ..CSIQ
[11:49] {magoo} just nasty air pockets
[11:51] {magoo} in 49
[11:51] {magoo} just now
[11:51] {magoo} half lot
[11:51] {magoo} stop is crazy..has to be like .59
[11:52] {magoo} aapl going green..RISKY
[11:52] {Chaeron} nice grab CSIQ mags
[11:53] {Chaeron} I missed it but good for you bud
[11:53] {magoo} watched it for like an hour
[11:53] {GeoArb} off to work.... see you all tomorrow
[11:53] {Chaeron} bye geo
[11:53] {magoo} bye geo
[11:53] {Threei} take care geo
[11:55] {magoo} magoo kicking csiq..don't air pocket u b@stard
[11:55] {Threei} OK... what happened to market?
[11:55] {kazaam} what a reversal, market hits 1336 on the S&P and bam right back to open
[11:55] {hawkfan4} no news
[11:56] {Threei} none here either
[11:56] {Chaeron} no news is good news... means noone screwed anything up
[11:57] {magoo} this is the norm vad.....abnormally volatile is normal
[12:00] {magoo} vad..lil help with CSIQ boss
[12:03] {Threei} almost hurt my foot trying to kick it
[12:03] {magoo} yeah.skerrin me
[12:03] {Threei} why do you sit on it that long? it went up nicely, we are deep in lunch period
[12:04] {magoo} greed
[12:04] {Threei} don't be greedy
[12:07] {magoo} yeah..forgot it is scalpers friday
[12:08] {magoo} out DUMMY - .50
[12:08] {magoo} had a qurter
[12:14] {kazaam} vad, how do you filter through all the trade ideas alerts, there a so many. Are you just clicking one update after another until something comes up or are you waiting for something to popup twice or 3 times?
[12:15] {Threei} well, first of all I do not watch all windows all the time
[12:15] {Threei} they are interesting in one type of market, less interesting in other
[12:15] {Threei} then, I pay more attention to more recognizable names
[12:16] {Threei} they are likely to attract more attention and players
[12:16] {Threei} I mean when CSIQ pops up on scanner, everyone is on alert... when NeverHeardOff does, not many do
[12:17] {Threei} and of course persistent blinking of the same name, especially on several screens is a good way to filter them
[12:17] {Threei} intraday JBE, two days break, 53 week highs - would youi ignore the stock that pops up on all three?
[12:18] {Threei} be back in 5
[12:18] {cosmo} ABAT 5.59 so far
[12:21] {cosmo} testing
[12:26] {Threei} so far so good ABAT
[12:26] {cosmo} lunch-time forces of 'greed' vs 'good'
[12:26] {cosmo} greed wins again it seems
[12:27] {cosmo} which is good
[12:27] {Threei} solidly over 1:1 and seems to continue
[12:27] {kazaam} what was the entry on ABAT?
[12:27] {magoo} original was 5
[12:28] {magoo} secondtry was .50..i believe
[12:28] {Threei} yes
[12:35] {magoo} there goes CSIQ
[12:36] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes Magoo, i was drawing a sym triangle and bam it broke out. SPWR seems to be consolidating
[12:37] {magoo} its purely a momemtum play imho
[12:43] {_Lisa_Jay} Us energy secretary on Bloomberg news in 15 min. will talk about off shore drilling policy.
[12:47] {Chaeron} Drill now... build refineries and nuke plants now... tell him I said it's ok
[12:47] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[13:01] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: NOT EXPECTING ANNOUNCEMENTS ON INCREASED OIL SUPPLIES FROM THIS WEEKEND'S SAUDI CONFERENCE
[13:21] {peterg} ok-now looking at 12 windows, or do I need a larger screen? with Vad's intelliscan configuraton
[13:22] {Threei} 12? I counted 14
[13:23] {peterg} some must be hidden behind others. need bigger screen, i think'
[13:23] {Chaeron} 65"
[13:23] {peterg} Sounds right
[13:32] {kazaam} i thought there were intelliscan windows?
[13:32] {kazaam} i thought there were four
[13:33] {kazaam} 14!?
[13:33] {Threei} 4 are just a few standard configurations
[13:33] {Threei} there are a lot more of pre-configured ones,
[13:33] {Threei} and there is endless possibilites for you to configure more
[13:33] {Threei} download my layout, you'll get my 14
[13:34] {Threei} look in Configuration, you'll see a lot more
[13:34] {Threei} start configuring them, you'll be amazed by how powerful this tool is
[13:36] {kazaam} i dont doubt the power, I doubt how much power i can handle
[13:37] {peterg} yes; each new tool has to be digested...burp
[13:37] {Threei} well... you have the power to limit by clicking X button in the right top corner of any of those windows :)
[13:37] {Threei} lol peter
[13:37] {Threei} just don't chew on your monitors... you have your keyboard for that
[13:38] {peterg} I'm caught betweem quest for knowledge and love of ignorance
[13:38] {Threei} I am not
[13:38] {Threei} my choice is made long ago
[13:38] {Threei} ignorance is bliss
[13:38] {peterg} there it is!
[13:38] {Threei} frikin oil
[13:38] {Threei} what's up again
[13:39] {hawkfan4} no news here, unreal, +1.90
06[13:50] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:51] {Chaeron} ooops... missed... sorry
06[13:51] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:51] {Chaeron} tere
[13:51] {Chaeron} there
[13:51] {magoo} lol
[13:52] {laserdave1} thaks
06[13:57] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:57] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:57] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:57] {Chaeron} there... just like in the Trhee Stooges
06[13:59] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:59] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[14:00] * laserdave1 slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[14:00] {laserdave1} sometimes you just gotta share the love
[14:01] {Threei} we are generous this way
[14:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Vad, any tips for me ...having trouble holding stop, kill trade before it gets hit. Also, take very tiny profits. Do not wait for 1:1 or 1:2. Example UNP - 75.08 long stop at 74.80. Took this for 6c profit!
[14:07] {Threei} that's pure psychological issue
[14:07] {Threei} trading on noise instead of valid signals
[14:07] {Threei} both TTR and MPP have parts devoted to that, and MPP has very pracctical solutions
[14:07] {Threei} it's kind of hard to retype it all
[14:08] {_Lisa_Jay} Ok. Will look forward to it. Thank you :-)
[14:08] {Threei} look in MPP for chapter on psuchology,
[14:09] {Threei} it has two methods for resolving this kind of things,
[14:09] {Threei} also, there are mantras
[14:09] {Threei} I don't remember they are in TTR or online course or both
[14:09] {Threei} my memory is faling {G}
[14:10] {_Lisa_Jay} Mantras?
[14:10] {Threei} or I wrote too much stuff and start forgetting what is where
[14:10] {_Lisa_Jay} Yoga?
[14:10] {Chaeron} Magoo... RIMM and AAPL?
[14:10] {Threei} well, idea is the same,
[14:10] {Threei} kind of texts that modify your behavior
[14:11] {magoo} watching chaer....2;30 ish is the time the direction usually resolves
[14:11] {Chaeron} thx
[14:12] {magoo} could tank if IF mkt does...or rebound..we'll see
[14:12] {_Lisa_Jay} Oh. Will read the book and on-line course. Sounds like it will really help me.
[14:16] {Threei} I am sure
[14:16] {Threei} if not, slap me with not one but two trouts
[14:17] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:17] {Threei} and since you mentioned it... yogas was a big thing of my youth... :)
06[14:20] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:20] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:20] {magoo} just like that
06[14:20] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:20] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:20] {laserdave1} thanks for showing me the way
[14:20] {Threei} abuse I take
[14:21] {_Lisa_Jay} CSIQ back near 50.
[14:21] {magoo} vad, she meant a relaxing technique...not a food product {thats yogurt lol}
[14:21] {Threei} lol
[14:21] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:22] {Threei} you reminded me a (admittedly not funny) joke of transitional period when Soviet Union already collapsed but market economy hans't launched yet
[14:22] {Threei} new unfamiliar food products started appearing on shelves
[14:23] {cosmo} spam?
[14:23] {Threei} guy with street-person look, unshaved and coarse, comes to the store
[14:23] {Threei} looks at the shelf
[14:24] {Threei} asks salesperson: what it this thing, in nice plastic container, colorful, labeled in foreign letters?
[14:24] {Threei} salesperson: it's Yougurt
[14:24] {Threei} Guy, trying new word, rolling it off the tongue, in dreamy voice: Yoooguuurrt...
[14:25] {magoo} Chaer, see that 2:30 nasty move?
[14:25] {Threei} continuing in normal voice: OK, gimme a bottle of vodka
[14:25] {_Lisa_Jay} Lol.
[14:25] {Chaeron} yeah..... I was going to msg, but didn't want to blow Vad's Russian joke
[14:25] {Threei} thank you lisa... you are the only one who laughs at my jokes
[14:26] {Threei} the rest roll their eyes
[14:26] {_Lisa_Jay} Still new to me. Your archived chat is fun to read.
[14:28] {magoo} oh oh...u mean room chat?
[14:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[14:28] {Chaeron} we're dead.......
[14:29] {magoo} OY
[14:35] {magoo} long rimm here
[14:36] {magoo} stop under 143
[14:36] {magoo} shit partial
[14:36] {magoo} @ .28
[14:37] {Threei} frikin IVAN
[14:37] {magoo} out .54 +.28
[14:37] {Chaeron} I missed magoo totally...
[14:37] {magoo} fast
[14:38] {magoo} .26
[14:38] {Chaeron} yep
[14:40] {magoo} long aapl .94
[14:41] {magoo} out here .20
[14:41] {magoo} + .26
[14:41] {magoo} oops.21
[14:41] {magoo} =.27
[14:41] {magoo} :)
[14:41] {Threei} gosh, buy a calculator
[14:41] {Threei} with your AAPL profit
[14:42] {magoo} are u saying it is measly?
[14:42] {magoo} i ytake 5 fifty bux and i have 200 bux
[14:42] {Threei} no, I am saying spend a bit to compute those profits right and not make us think {K}
[14:42] {Threei} we hate thinking
[14:42] {Threei} causes severe headaches
[14:43] {magoo} [14:44] {magoo} i ytake 5 fifty bux and i have 200 bux
[14:43] {magoo} [14:44] {Threei} no,
[14:43] {magoo} um, i mean 250 bux LOL
[14:43] {Threei} rofl
[14:43] {Threei} proof of concept
[14:51] {Threei} SOL
[14:52] {Threei} probably worth a try on pullback to 21
[14:52] {Threei} half lot
[14:52] {Threei} in .02
[14:53] {Threei} stop under .90
[14:55] {Threei} go away ARCA
[14:56] {Threei} no worky
[14:57] {magoo} l aapl
[15:17] {Threei} how about that CSIQ
[15:19] {hawkfan4} very nice move, solars running nicely
[15:19] {cosmo} the days are long
[15:19] {Threei} LOL
[15:20] {Threei} ugh SOL
[15:20] {Threei} shakeout
[15:20] {hawkfan4} in .04 :)
[15:20] {dptl} why tan is negative then?
[15:21] {Chaeron} I just took +.46 from SOL in .02 out .48
[15:21] {Chaeron} many thanks 3i
06[15:21] * Threei slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[15:21] {Threei} welcome
[15:21] {Chaeron} what... too early
[15:21] {Chaeron} ?
[15:21] {Threei} no
[15:22] {dptl} isn't tan solar etf?
[15:22] {Chaeron} yep
[15:23] {hawkfan4} out SOL + 61, thx vad
[15:24] {hawkfan4} probably because FSLR is still down 6 pts dp
[15:25] {dptl} oh...isee ty hawk
[15:33] {magoo} are we in anything now? had someone in office for last half hour
[15:34] {hawkfan4} no sir
[15:34] {Threei} nope... some of us, especially shameless, grabbed indecent profits on SOL
[15:35] {Threei} I guess I was too careful on SATC
[15:35] {Threei} was worth entry at 3
[15:36] {magoo} ok..i got distracrted there
[15:40] {Threei} if CSIQ jumps again off 51, so should SOL off 21.50
[15:43] {magoo} .
[15:44] {hawkfan4} 1/2 out BEXP +.85
[15:44] {Threei} smaeless
[15:44] {Threei} shameless
[15:45] {magoo} man hawk..u crushing today
[15:45] {hawkfan4} out the rest. best day of the year for me
[15:45] {Threei} I am torn between congratulations and trouting
[15:45] {Threei} ah what the heck why not do both
[15:45] {hawkfan4} how about a congratulatory trout?
[15:45] {Threei} congratulations hawk
06[15:45] * Threei slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[15:46] {hawkfan4} thank you :)
[15:46] {Threei} you are very welcome :)
06[15:46] * magoo slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[15:46] {hawkfan4} lol
[15:46] {Threei} can't tell you how satisfying it is to see what huge progress you've made in a few month
[15:47] {hawkfan4} you're not kidding, a huge turnaround
[15:48] {magoo} sigh
[15:48] {hawkfan4} i spent the first 3 months of the year getting clobbered, then did a mentoring session with Vad and it's been steady progress ever since
[15:48] {Threei} in amazing way, a bit of soul-searching took mistery out of the markets
[15:49] {Threei} secret to good trading lies in intense navel-gazing
[15:49] {Threei} there... I came up with some used call vadisms:
[15:50] {Threei} know thyself, and you will know the markets
[15:51] {cosmo} market shearching took mistery out of the soul
[15:51] {cosmo} hmmm
[15:51] {Threei} lol
[15:51] {Threei} that was cosmism
[15:53] {magoo} sol worked but didn't want iot this close to bell
[15:53] {Threei} can't blame you
[15:53] {Threei} we had a beautiful day
[15:53] {Threei} why risk it
[15:53] {Threei} on last minutes
[15:53] {Chaeron} bid on ABAT
[15:53] {magoo} bingo
[15:53] {dptl} have a good evening all and ty :)
[15:53] {Threei} I've made one more observation about latest trading
[15:53] {_Lisa_Jay} First day here and learnt - 1. Keep stop even if it gets hit - hey you never know.
[15:54] {Threei} but too lazy now to share it
[15:54] {Threei} will do tomorrow
[15:54] {Chaeron} you won't be lazy tomorrow?
[15:54] {cosmo} here's one ... sometimes this keyboard here gets kinda like a ouija board
[15:54] {Threei} oh I will
[15:54] {Threei} I always am
[15:54] {Threei} but I have more energy in first half of the day to fight it odff
[15:54] {Threei} take care dp
[15:55] {Threei} stops are to be kept religiously lisa... not for discussion, not for altering
[15:55] {Threei} just keep them
[15:55] {Threei} otherwise you don't stand a chance
[15:55] {Threei} you may get lucky 9 times
[15:55] {Threei} 10th you won't and the size of the loss on that single one will take all the profits of those 9 and a lot more
[15:56] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[15:56] {Threei} remember classic stages of going through bad news?
[15:56] {Threei} denial
[15:56] {Threei} anger
[15:56] {Threei} bargaining
[15:56] {Threei} what's next
[15:56] {Threei} depression
[15:56] {Threei} acceptance
[15:57] {Threei} that's exactly what will happen as you hold losing position
[15:57] {Threei} in an amazingly consistent way, acceptance and taking a loss much bigger than you could ever imagine wsill occur at the exact bottom
[15:58] {magoo} thats so so true
[15:58] {_Lisa_Jay} I have opposite problem. i don't let setup work. i cut it too quick.
[15:58] {cosmo} born to suffer...
[15:58] {Threei} on denial stage you will be telling yourself it's going to turn around any minute now
[15:58] {Threei} then you get angry at your self or at market
[15:59] {Threei} then you ask p[owers that be to grant you your wish this one time, promising that you'
[15:59] {Threei} ll bnever blow a stop again
[15:59] {Chaeron} and become a priest
[15:59] {Threei} then you'll become indifferent, "whatever happens, I don't care:"
[15:59] {Threei} then you finally accept it and take loss
[16:00] {Threei} no trader in the world haven't lived through it
[16:00] {cosmo} you sure the meds didn't do that?
[16:00] {_Lisa_Jay} Me?
[16:00] {Threei} only red pill
[16:00] {cosmo} k then
[16:00] {Threei} talking about pattern in general, lisa
[16:01] {Threei} no one in particular
[16:01] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[16:01] {Threei} have a great evening, see you all tomorrow
[16:01] {Chaeron} thanks again Vad... see you tomorrow
[16:01] {Threei} at least those who elect to see me
[16:01] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you so much Vad.
[16:01] {hawkfan4} thx vad, all
[16:01] {Threei} and since it's not necessary pretty, can't blame those who decides otherwise
[16:02] {Threei} oh and magoo
06[16:02] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[16:02] * Chaeron slaps _Lisa_Jay around a bit with a large trout
[16:02] {_Lisa_Jay} :-) Thanks Chaeron.
[16:02] {Chaeron} that's just to officially welcome you to the room :)
[16:03] {Threei} lol
[16:03] {Threei} where is Geo
[16:03] {Threei} somehow I feel like slapping him as well
[16:03] {Chaeron} you're one of us now... don't want you to feel like you're not ohana
[16:03] {magoo} TY vad{for ther trout}
[16:03] {Threei} welcome... I felt I had to oblige