Friday, September 14, 2012

Market Week Wrap-Up

Helicopter Ben Lands QE3, Refueling Risk-On Rally

- The Fed authorized its third round of quantitative easing this week, promising to dump liquidity into US and global markets to increase what it called the inadequate pace of economic recovery and boost employment. The new round of easing may be Chairman Bernanke's biggest yet, as the Fed has promised not to stop buying until the labor market "improves substantially." Substantial improvement was not clearly defined. Meanwhile, the last big barrier to the ECB bond buying program was eliminated this week. Germany's Constitutional Court authorized German participation in the ESM bailout fund with only two main conditions: that parliament must be consulted on ESM activities and that Berlin's contribution will not exceed €190B without the approval of the Bundestag. Spreads between bunds and Spanish and Italian government debt immediately narrowed after the ruling was handed down, and by the end of the week yields on Italian and Spanish 10-year debt had fallen below 5% and 6%, respectively. In the hours following the Fed's announcement, US equity markets rallied hard and the DJIA and S&P500 closed at their highest levels since December 2007 on Thursday. Global markets caught up to the US on Friday, while US markets added more modest gains to close out the week. For the week, the DJIA gained 2.2%, the Nasdaq rose 1.5%, and the S&P500 added 1.9%. Gold futures surged a couple of percentage points to as high as $1,780 on the additional Fed stimulus, while crude oil topped $100 for the first time since early May

- The FOMC gave the market everything it wanted on Thursday, extending its low-rate pledge another year to 2015 and launching a new unlimited round of quantitative easing. The new Fed bond buying program has the real potential to exceed the first two installments of QE. While the monthly purchase total of the new program is only $40B of mortgage-backed securities a month, less than QEII's $75B a month and QEI's $100B monthly tab, the open-ended commitment and the vague end-state conditions suggest the program could have an extended lifespan. In his post-decision press conference, Bernanke sought to head off common concerns about extended low rates and QE: he noted that while low rates impose some costs on savers it also supports value of other assets and ultimately supports stronger economic conditions, and said that if inflation becomes an issue the Fed has other tools it can use to tamp it down over time. There was selling at the long end of the US Treasury curve into and after the announcement. The 30-year yield moved back above 3% while the 10-year is now at 4-month highs above 1.85%.

The US "fiscal cliff" got a lot of jawboning this week, perhaps taking some of the edge off of the risk-on nirvana that came with the Fed announcement. Speaker of the House Boehner offered that he is not at all confident that the US can avoid the fiscal cliff or a further ratings downgrade. This comment came as Moody's warned that it could downgrade the US triple-A rating if next year's budget negotiations do not produce policies that begin to decrease debt levels. A former PBoC official expressed concerns about the US debt level, observing that if one included social security and Medicare related liabilities, the US debt-to-GDP ratio would be approximately 200%.

- It seems like the June quarter earnings season was only yesterday and already the September quarter season is right around the corner, prompting firms to begin offering profit warnings. Western Digital trimmed its Q1 revenue guidance due to much lower overall market demand for hard drives, driven in part by "inventory rebalancing" (WDC also initiated a $0.25 dividend and a new stock buyback plan). Trucking stocks hit the brakes after Werner Enterprises offered a Q3 outlook that was well below expectations, although executives cited higher maintenance and healthcare costs for the poor forecast. Both Steel Dynamics and AK Steel warned that their Q3 earnings would be very weak, the former due to the uncertain inventory and the later due to outages and maintenance downtime. In its mid-quarter update, Texas Instruments boosted its Q3 earnings guidance range slightly, although it also narrowed its revenue forecast.

- The major merger story this week was news that BAE Systems and Airbus parent EADS were once again mulling a tie-up. The move, which has been the subject of on-again, off-again talks for years, would create an aerospace and defense giant second only to Boeing. The news was met with concerns about whether the deal would be able to clear regulatory hurdles. Shares of EADS fell sharply in European trading, down around 15% on the Paris bourse, while London-traded shares of BAE were up on the week.

- Shares of Facebook jumped following CEO Mark Zuckerberg's first public interview since the botched IPO. Zuckerberg offered a mea culpa, admitting that the performance of the stock has been disappointing and he had made some wrong turns in strategy, but insisted that Facebook cares about shareholders. He also made bullish comments about the firm's mobile and search strategies.

- The US Treasury Department took a big step toward exiting its position in AIG this week. The treasury sold off $18 billion of its common stock, cutting the government's share in the firm to around 16% of the outstanding shares from 53% prior, prompting AIG to declare that America's $182B total commitments to AIG have been fully recovered.

- German support for the ESM, the massive impact of QE3, and Moody's comments about the US sovereign rating conspired to crush the greenback this week. EUR/USD entered the week just below 1.2800 and climbed to 1.316 through Friday, its highest level since the beginning of May. Sterling was aided by better UK trade data: the July trade deficit hit its narrowest total since February 2011 and the July non-EU goods exports pushed out to a record high. GBP/USD probed above 1.6000 and by Friday was testing a four-month high of 1.6033. EUR/CHF drifted higher throughout the week as the SNB maintained the peg, against speculation that it would raise the lower limit from 1.2000 to 1.2200.

- In Japan, Finance Minister Azumi cranked up the anti-strong yen rhetoric. Azumi warned that more decisive steps may be needed to deal with the yen, reiterating that the recent appreciation has been highly speculative in nature. Japan's Cabinet Office downgraded its assessment of the economy for the second consecutive month and called on the BOJ to take a more aggressive policy stance at its meeting next week. USD/JPY hit 7-month lows in the aftermath of the FOMC, falling below 77.20, but quickly bounced back. Later in the day, dealers indicated the BOJ had conducted a rate check after the Fed announcement to curb JPY currency strength, its first since June. Note that Sept 14th also marked the two-year anniversary of when the MOF first instructed the BOJ to embark on solo FX intervention. USD/JPY regained the 78 handle early on Friday, while EUR/JPY tested the 102 level.

- August economic data out of China released over the weekend and early on in the week painted a mixed picture of the slowing economy just as Beijing prepares for its once-a-decade political handover next month. Output and trade data continued to slow with industrial production coming in at a new three-year low, just shy of estimates at 8.9%, while imports registered their first y/y contraction since January - a clear sign of accelerated slowdown in the uptake for the world's manufacturing hub. Inflation data was slightly rosier, rising on a y/y basis for the first time since March. Analysts were quick to point out that the apparent bottom in CPI is likely to keep the PBoC from further easing for the time being, even though a closer look at inflation data suggests that much of the bounce is related to food prices rising as a result of droughts overseas. Despite the broad-based post-FOMC rally across asset classes, Shanghai Composite has hardly participated in the run-up, ending the week flat at 2,123. With the October party congress drawing nearer, the apparent disappearance of presumptive party leader nominee Vice Premier Xi Jinping from the public eye has added a wrinkle to expectations of a smooth transition.



TradeTheNews

Sep 14 21012

Somewhat uneven but positive day. No Catch of the Day today but we had plenty lately. Had a glimpse into Nemo's Last Week, Next Week post in preparation - you don't want to miss it. Stay tuned.


Session Time: Fri Sep 14 00:00:00 2012
[08:33] {nemo} retail sales bad ex oil
[08:50] {Threei}  Spain said to be under pressure to ask for full bailout at informal Ecofin meeting
[08:50] {Threei}  just why do they pressure Spain that doesn't ant their money
[08:54] {nemo} just print some more, who cares
[08:58] {scottie} gm
[09:00] {goryl} gm
[09:00] {dino} gm
[09:02] {Threei}  scottie, goryl, dino :)
[09:06] {Threei}  (IR) Israel PM Netanyahu: Israel may have to strike Iran even without US support - Israel press- Has already heard from those who say we should wait until the last minute.
[09:08] {RonS} gm...http://tinyurl.com/9xo4btc
03[09:08] * Retrieving #discussions modes...
[09:09] {Threei}  morning ron
[09:11] {thomcbell} looks like i may have missed a good one yesterday
[09:11] {Threei}  yeah
[09:11] {thomcbell} FCX on fire
[09:12] {thomcbell} well hope you all made some -
[09:15] {Threei}  good day yesterday
[09:18] {Beau} good morning all
[09:18] {Threei}  beau :)
[09:19] {RonS} nettlesome detail:  BREAKING: U.S. August industrial production falls 1.2%
[09:19] {Threei}  doesn't matter ron
[09:20] {Threei}  ben will print 45B a month instead of 40
[09:20] {Threei}  what's 5B between friends
[09:20] {RonS} ergo nettlesome detail
[09:20] {Will49} Good Morning
[09:21] {Threei}  will :)
[09:22] {dino} ben's playing texas hold-em, he's all in
[09:23] {Threei}  you better elect ben-firing candidate, or this will end badly
[09:23] {Threei}  not that he will fix it all, mind you
[09:24] {Threei}  but you gotta start somewhere
[09:28] {ese} gm
[09:28] {dolores} hello GM
[09:28] {Threei}  ese, dolores :)
[09:34] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .70 break hl
[09:34] {Threei}  If holds  .80
[09:34] {Threei}  Invalidated
[09:34] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .15 break
[09:35] {Threei}  not much chance
[09:35] {dolores} graet all too fast could not catch it
[09:35] {nemo} lvs going to 200SMA
[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .85 break hl
[09:36] {Threei}  grrr
[09:36] {RonS} caught .11 slw  thanks
[09:36] {Threei}  wtg ron
[09:36] {Threei}  ok, in
[09:36] {Threei}  stop above .95
[09:36] {Threei}  1:1
[09:37] {Threei}  that's for picking up LVS
[09:37] {Threei}  that's = thanks
[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .35 break
[09:39] {Threei}  If holds  .45
[09:41] {Threei}  target 1:3
[09:42] {Threei}  come on
[09:42] {Threei}  touched 1:1 and jumped back without filling
[09:42] {Threei}  stop .41
[09:42] {dptl} gm
[09:42] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:43] {Threei}  out
[09:44] {nemo} figure get selling in the afternoon, market still Bendelerioused over
[09:44] {nemo} iwm has to go to 86.80ish
[09:45] {thomcbell} fcx bananas
[09:45] {nemo} whole market
[09:45] {nemo} imo no shorts
[09:45] {Threei}  yeah, what isn't
[09:46] {nemo} What's interesting is QE is now off the table, No more "will he, or won't he."  So actual economic performance may become relevant again
[09:46] {thomcbell} im still sick guys - going back to rest - everyone break a leg
[09:46] {Threei}  get well over the weekend, tbell
[09:46] {Will49} cheers Tbell
[09:46] {Threei}  market wikll be here on Monday
[09:46] {Threei}  I promise
[09:46] {thomcbell} hehe
[09:46] {nemo} Jews won't be though
[09:47] {dino} get well tbell
[09:47] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .70 break
[09:47] {RonS} aapl 694
[09:47] {nemo} SPY at MR2 and fib extension
[09:47] {Threei}  If holds  .80
[09:48] {dino} nemo, they are getting ready to attack imo
[09:48] {nemo} yeah of course, but you have to let the passions get them into a Wile. E. Coyote position
[09:49] {nemo} If there's no sell off today, we rip higher next week, and really set up the short positions
[09:51] {nemo} see what happens when aapl get's over $700
[09:52] {Threei}  National Daily Tracking: #Romney: 48%, #Obama: 45%
[09:52] {dino} ioc spike
[09:52] {Threei}  convention bounce is over
[09:52] {Threei}  and mideast development is not seen favorably for president
[09:52] {dino} damn can't borrow ioc
[09:54] {dptl} db .10 long?
[09:55] {Threei}  *(US) SEPT PRELIMINARY UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 79.2 V 74.0E
[09:55] {Threei}  not sure dp
[09:55] {nemo} doesn't matter today
[09:55] {nemo} we're going up
[09:55] {nemo} and up
[09:55] {nemo} fslr
[09:56] {nemo} kors
[09:56] {Threei}  the damage Ben is doing to the country knows little precedent
[09:56] {nemo} none of this has precedent, except for Japan...grand experiment
[09:57] {nemo} It tries to void the principle of Reversion...will be bad eventually
[09:57] {scottie} hal 38 long ?
[09:57] {nemo} anything long scottie ;-)
[09:58] {Threei}  yeah
[09:58] {Threei}  if holds .90
[09:58] {Threei}  which it doesn't
[09:58] {Threei}  but pulled back too sharply
[09:58] {Threei}  .90 becomes trigger itself now
[09:58] {nemo} this is a tight area for spy between .40-.50 on Multi-time frame, might consolidate before going higher
[09:59] {Threei}  can be seen as aggressive for 38
[09:59] {Threei}  crap, missed VZ .90 break alert
[09:59] {nemo} look for bounce on hal .75ish
[09:59] {Threei}  had it in mind and got distracted
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) JULY BUSINESS INVENTORIES: 0.8% V 0.3%E
[10:00] {nemo} I was wrong bounced at .70
[10:01] {nemo} btw...forgot you guys should check the blog every day...I updated it
[10:01] {nemo} last night
[10:02] {Threei}  you measn last post, not a new one?
[10:02] {nemo} right
[10:02] {dptl} half out db
[10:04] {dptl} all out.31
[10:04] {Will49} nice dp
[10:04] {dptl} ty
[10:05] {dino} amgn sm l .00
[10:05] {nemo} bidu long coming
[10:07] {Threei}  German foreign minister says German embassy in Sudan is partially in flames after protests
[10:08] {nemo} in bidu .20 small stop .00
[10:09] {nemo} bidding .42
[10:09] {nemo} offering
[10:09] {Threei} Long Setup:  TLT  .60 break
[10:09] {nemo} stop is under b/e this is tightrope walking a bit
[10:09] {Threei}  late alert
[10:09] {Threei}  grrr
[10:10] {nemo} got partial
[10:10] {Threei}  crap... what's with me today
[10:10] {nemo} I'll let it ride to original stop now
[10:11] {nemo} iwm going
[10:11] {nemo} yeah baby
[10:11] {Threei} Short Setup: CTL  .50 break
[10:11] {nemo} Neil Diamond again
[10:12] {Threei}  If holds  .55
[10:12] {nemo} next stop...200SMA all aboard!
[10:13] {Threei}  no go
[10:13] {nemo} watching IWM for .82 what it does there
[10:14] {nemo} offering .98 partial
[10:14] {nemo} yeah baby
[10:14] {nemo} wish I'd gone full size
[10:15] {nemo} I lied...50SMA
[10:15] {dino} out amgn .40, +.40
[10:15] {nemo} stop under .00
[10:15] {jackharry} good morning, running a little late today
[10:15] {nemo} NANTUCKET SLEIGH RIDE!!!
[10:16] {nemo} crashed and burned
[10:16] {nemo} out .97
[10:16] {Threei}  morning jack
[10:16] {jackharry} miss much?
[10:16] {nemo} reminds me of the swearing parrot joke
[10:16] {nemo} yeah, I'm about to get rinsed on my stop
[10:16] {Threei}  not really
[10:17] {ese} ok i'll bite.........swearing parot jokes?
[10:17] {nemo} o.k.  coming to all time high in IWM at 86.82...watch the action here
[10:17] {ese} sure am
[10:17] {Threei}  I know a lot of russian ones ese, but none of them translates, too language-specific... nemo will have to fill english side
[10:21] {nemo} btw...iwm breaks this, you could see euphoria like we haven't seen since the late 90's
[10:22] {Threei} Long Setup:  TLT  .30 break
[10:22] {Threei}  If holds  .15
[10:22] {Threei}  target .65 - .70
[10:22] {ese} am looking forward to it............i have a cockatiel.........not quite as big but good enough
[10:23] {ese} mini parrot
[10:24] {ese} is more human than a human
[10:25] {ese} takes showers.....looks at itself in a miror........flies on you and rubs it's head up under your chin looking for a head scratch..........
[10:26] {ese} it's like an extra kid around the house
[10:27] {dino} sh l .38
[10:27] {Threei}  1:1
[10:27] {nemo} nice...bunny took a chunk out my hand earlier this week
[10:27] {ese} and also cost me on a trade one time..........was flying around wildly bumping into the walls of it's cage.........i lost contral of a scalp........
[10:28] {dino} i'll stick w/dog
[10:28] {ese} lol
[10:28] {ese} wanted to feed it to a cat after that incident
[10:30] {Will49} out TLT +.21
[10:31] {Will49} tks Vad
[10:31] {Threei}  :)
[10:31] {ese} right on Will..........
[10:32] {Will49} :D
[10:32] {Will49} it's coming....
[10:32] {ese} ya .21 on 30,000 shs is fantastic
[10:33] {Will49} only nemo does that
[10:33] {ese} lol
[10:33] {ese} we now need to have the fall shiskabob classic....your buying and barbecuing
[10:34] {Will49} I'll let you know...
[10:34] {ese} lol
[10:34] {Will49} may be in debtor's prison
[10:35] {Will49} or may be buying Vad a couple of AK47 bottles
[10:35] {ese} lol........indeed
[10:38] {dino} brb
[10:38] {ese} Will dcc........
[10:48] {Threei} Long Setup:  TLT  .50 break
[10:48] {Threei}  stop under .40
[10:51] {dolores} sorry was out TLT triggered?
[10:52] {Threei}  yes
[10:54] {Threei}  Protestors reportedly jump the walls at the US embassies in Sudan and Tunisia - world press- 1 protester has been reported killed at the US Sudan embassy, with reports of gunfire. Reports of black smoke over the embassy have also circulated.
[10:55] {nemo} I like how the marines couldn't have live ammo in Egypt...frickin' Lebanon all over again
[10:55] {Threei}  no worky
[10:55] {dino} sh to .45
[10:56] {nemo} here's how the levels have played out so far:  http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=88a12a5e-51d6-4f18-ab50-57b3a33798eb
[10:56] {Threei}  hands-on economy policy and laissez faire foreign policy
[10:56] {Threei}  what a disaster
[10:56] {dino} unbelievable, no live ammo. wtf
[10:56] {nemo} nope
[10:57] {nemo} remember when they blew up the marine baracks...well maybe you don't, back in the 80'7.  Couldn't even have ammo at the checkpoints
[10:57] {dptl} pay 32 short?
[10:57] {nemo} Frickin' lambs to slaughter...killed over 200 marines
[10:57] {nemo} 80's
[10:57] {ese} what?
[10:57] {ese} today?
[10:57] {dino} yeah, i remember
[10:58] {ese} oh...80's
[10:58] {nemo} Marine at checkpoint wanted to shoot the guy in the truckbomb but had no ammo, no back in the 80's ese
[10:58] {dino} out sh .46, +.08
[10:58] {nemo} Reagan was president
[10:58] {nemo} They were sitting ducks
[10:58] {dino} what good are guards w/o ammo
[10:58] {Threei}  I think so dp
[10:58] {nemo} barbecue
[10:59] {ese} i remember that...........middle east is a timebomb........it's going to implode on itself one day
[10:59] {nemo} Nuke it, and drill through the glass
[10:59] {ese} Syria's gotta be lovin this........takes the heat off them
[11:00] {nemo} stx
[11:01] {ese} They re poor because they get sidetracked with stuff like this..........don't think about growing there economies.........
[11:01] {dptl} in pay .99
[11:01] {nemo} no culture of it
[11:03] {nemo} well, if iwm breaks the highs from this retracement  87.40 in the cards
[11:03] {dptl} where would be stop Vad .06 or .10?
[11:03] {Threei}  how can you go to work if there is amovie made by unknown idiot and seen by whole 5 people on another side of a planet
[11:03] {Threei}  .10
[11:04] {nemo} it's the lumpin proletariat Vad
[11:04] {Threei}  you drop work and whatever else you were doing and go burn embassies to protest that movie
[11:04] {nemo} My lefty friends say everybody deserves a chance...equal equal equal,,,  half the people don't have the organic wetware to think their way out of a paper bag!!!
[11:05] {nemo} Zhukov had some unkind things to say about the proletariat
[11:05] {Threei}  deserves? sure... who said they don't have that chance?
[11:05] {Will49} 1/2?.... try 80%
[11:05] {nemo} He and Uncle Joe used to talk about it
[11:05] {Threei}  their favorite president is a ,living proof that they do have that chance
[11:06] {Threei}  what else do they want? everyone to be just named a president or what?
[11:07] {nemo} All men created equal to them means everybody gets the same thing
[11:07] {Beau} strong evidence first two set up by radical group.  both attacks same time and on 9/11
[11:07] {nemo} To me it means we were created equal
[11:07] {Beau} rest are just following
[11:07] {nemo} My daddy boinked my mommy...
[11:07] {nemo} And I hatched some time later
[11:08] {nemo} That's how we are created
[11:08] {nemo} period end of story
[11:08] {Threei}  I am pretty sure that's true, and the movie bs is just a distraction, beau
[11:08] {nemo} total...incite the morons...funny thing
[11:09] {nemo} back on 9/11/2001 from whose cars did you see American Flags flying?
[11:09] {Beau} ??
[11:09] {nemo} It wasn't in the rich neighborhoods or those tied into the insider echelons
[11:09] {ese} Beau....your talking about the film incident right..........headlines here are showing the authorities looking into it
[11:09] {ese} is starting to look like a setup
[11:10] {Beau} don't think film had anything to do with the first two attacks
[11:10] {nemo} It's an excuse to incite the passions of the rabble
[11:10] {nemo} same as 70 virgins and a mule
[11:11] {nemo} oh...that's a mixed metaphor...sorry
[11:11] {nemo} anyway
[11:11] {Will49} still trying to get even for the crusades
[11:11] {dolores} CF at lows
[11:11] {dolores} WOW TLT
[11:11] {dolores} nice bounce
[11:13] {Threei}  yeah... rinsed
[11:13] {Threei}  I don't know what those "authorities" are looking into, ese
[11:13] {Threei}  idiot made a movie
[11:13] {Threei}  so what?
[11:13] {Will49} dp...talk about walkin' the line, eh?
[11:13] {Threei}  big f(*%n deal
[11:14] {Threei}  why would any human being go burn embassies and kill people over that?
[11:14] {Will49} nothing to lose
[11:15] {dino} agree 3i, freedom of speech
[11:15] {Threei}  you don't like his movie? send him a f*&^%#n e-mail
[11:15] {dolores} yes
[11:15] {Threei}  or make a movie on your own
[11:15] {Threei}  or post a review
[11:15] {dolores} but knowing how sensible they are and fanatic why make the movie in the first place and anyone saw the trailer?
[11:16] {Threei}  you can't control all idiots
[11:16] {dino} freedom of speech dolores. it is what usa is based on
[11:16] {dolores} it is the most stupid thing I have ver seen
[11:16] {Threei}  this idiot decided to make a movie
[11:16] {Threei}  it's his idiotic right
[11:16] {dino} exactly
[11:16] {goryl} don't do anything that might offend anyone:)
[11:16] {Threei}  make smart own and put his to shame
[11:17] {dolores} and the actors had no idea he was going to double what they said differently
[11:17] {dino} don't justify murder because someone says something you don't like
[11:17] {dino} f' them. put out a thousand more movies
[11:17] {dino} religion is ruining the world
[11:18] {Threei}  if an idiot comes to you on the street and says he doesn't like the race you belong to, religion you practice or gender you were born into, or your appearance, or your hair color, or your shoes,
[11:18] {Will49} true dat dino
[11:18] {dolores} nothing justifies the killing
[11:18] {dino} scapegoat for not having personal responsibility
[11:18] {Threei}  do you shrug and go away or do you kill him?
[11:18] {Beau} but his movie did not cause tues attacks.  excuse like the "chem weapons
[11:18] {Beau} in Iraq
[11:18] {Threei}  or do you kill him, then go and burn the embassy of his cvountry and kill his ambassaador?
[11:19] {Threei}  and justify it all by the fact that he offended you
[11:19] {dino} we are too sensitive. need to start carrying the big stick again
[11:19] {Will49} it's pretty easy to incite a bunch of 18 year-olds that have nothing to lose
[11:20] {Threei}  especially iif you apologize to them profusely each time they kill someone
[11:20] {Will49} yeah
[11:20] {dino} they keep them uneducated. tell them all this b.s. about heresay that may have happened thousands of yers ago, then say blow up those who do not believe our heresay
[11:20] {scottie} met .50 long?
[11:20] {dolores} the guy that made the movie is equally fanatic
[11:21] {dolores} and stupid
[11:21] {Threei}  chart is right scottie... time of the day is wrong
[11:21] {nemo} http://stocktwits.com/compliance/2358?href=http%3A%2F%2Fsec.gov%2Fnews%2Fpress%2F2012%2F2012-189-chart.pdf
[11:21] {dino} hey, how about this, you want to beat up your wife, become a muslim, unbelievable....
[11:21] {Threei}  of course dolores
[11:21] {dolores} he might have freedom of speech as everyone else
[11:21] {Threei}  he is a fanatic and stupid
[11:21] {scottie} ok
[11:21] {Threei}  but he made a movie
[11:21] {Threei}  how does that justofy killing?
[11:22] {dino} dolores, who is more fanatical, the movie guy or the murderers
[11:22] {Threei}  killing of people who didn't have anything to do qwith that movie, btw
[11:22] {goryl} Vad, can you elaborate on the time of the day is wrong for that trade?
[11:22] {dolores} but that does not mean he does not have responsability for on purpose do something to creat a mess
[11:22] {dolores} killings are not justified at all
[11:22] {Threei}  luncht time, activity goes down, breakmouts work with less odds
[11:22] {dolores} they are also fanatic and extremists
[11:23] {dolores} that is not islam
[11:23] {dino} exactly, oh you hurt my feelings, i must kill you, the world needs to get a grip on this crap
[11:23] {dolores} is fanatics that follow islam
[11:23] {goryl} ok, thanks
[11:23] {nemo} dino...this has been going on for time immemorial
[11:23] {nemo} and it is now enshrined in the leftist culture in the US
[11:24] {nemo} You can't say anything that might hurt somebody's feelings
[11:24] {dino} its their leaders way of keeping their people down, and the leaders keeping control and money.
[11:24] {nemo} It happens here with all the isms
[11:25] {dino} agreed nemo, makes me sick. turning america into a bunch of babies. grow a pair people
[11:25] {nemo} go watch "Indoctrinate U" on youtube
[11:26] {dino} skul sm l .64
[11:28] {dino} out fb swing from yesterday, .91, +1.06
[11:28] {dino} pcyc drop
[11:29] {dolores} wow .60 on IOC
[11:29] {dolores} 2 secs
[11:29] {dptl} freaking pay die already
[11:31] {Threei}  {PAY} yes sir. Sorry sir. Dying sir
[11:32] {dolores} now will go back up again
[11:33] {Threei}  scottie, goryl... see how MET plays chinese water torture game?
[11:35] {scottie} right
06[11:36] * Threei hits PAY over the head with 2x4
[11:37] {dptl} ye please
[11:40] {Threei}  good boy
[11:40] {dptl} boy, couldt cover my half
[11:41] {Threei}  where di you had it?
[11:41] {Threei}  have
[11:41] {RonS} rash of bomb threats hitting universities...UT, NDS
[11:41] {dptl} .89
[11:41] {dptl} and missed .91 then hit
[11:41] {Threei}  too greedy for a lunch time
[11:41] {Threei}  keep your expectations down
[11:42] {dptl} stop to .01 now?
[11:42] {Threei}  certainly
[11:48] {dptl} just can't get it lol
06[11:49] * Threei pokes PAY in the ribcage with sharp stick
[11:49] {Threei}  there
[11:49] {Threei}  stop whining already :)
[11:50] {dptl} thanx out half
[11:50] {Threei}  whew
[11:50] {dptl} lol
[11:50] {Will49} where can I get one of those sticks?
[11:50] {Threei}  self-made...
[11:52] {dino} pcyc bit of blood
[11:54] {dino} pcyc smr l .80
[11:54] {dptl} all out pay
[11:54] {Will49} good patience DP
[11:55] {dptl} whew...gonna go made my self that stick
[11:55] {Will49} lol
[11:56] {dino} ioc giving it back
[11:56] {dptl} made=make,,lol
[12:09] {Threei}  White House: No information to suggest that attack on US consulate in Libya was pre-planned
[12:10] {Threei}  insulting voters intelligenece much?
[12:11] {dino} stop pcyc
[12:15] {Threei}  I finally realized what WH reaction reminds me
[12:16] {Threei}  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbIv7W7rhx4
[12:16] {Beau} Not to start an arguement but how does
[12:16] {Beau} Romney define "middle-income"? The Republican presidential nominee defined it Friday as income of $200,000 to $250,000 a year and less.The Census Bureau reported this week that the median household income — the midpoint for the nation — is just over $50,000.
[12:17] {dptl} how about jcp 29 long if hold .90
[12:18] {Threei}  I am lukewarm to this kind of plays now, dp
[12:18] {Threei}  Beau, I'd say, largely depends on context
[12:19] {Threei}  if we are talking about defining it for tax bracket purposes, it nakes sense because a lot of small businesses get in such definition by the income al,one
[12:20] {Threei}  this is exactly where president's idea of raising taxes on 250 and higher fails
[12:21] {Threei}  if that was just a straightforward answer to where he thinks middle income falls, then it just proves that no one in upper level of politics has slightest idea of normal life
[12:24] {Threei} Short Setup: MW  .50 break hl
[12:24] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[12:26] {Threei}  Invalidated
[12:26] {Threei} Short Setup: WLP  .15 break
[12:26] {Threei}  If holds  .20
[12:26] {Threei}  aggressive for .10 break
[12:30] {dptl} in.14
[12:37] {dino} pcyc more down
[12:38] {RonS} 470 p/e...what could go wrong?
[12:38] {dino} skul to .94
[12:43] {dino} pcyc sm l .35
[12:43] {dino} skul to .99
[12:45] {dolores} That 58.18 bid supporting this WLP
[12:47] {Will49} watching WLP (eyes crossed)
[12:48] {Threei}  frikin MW
[12:48] {dolores} want to walk the doggies thought this one would be faster
[12:48] {Threei}  why did you have to invalidate the setup
[12:48] {Threei}  market got frozen, dolores...
[12:48] {Threei}  on behalf of market, I apologize
[12:48] {dolores} ja ja
[12:48] {Threei}  :)
[12:49] {dolores} doggies bark
[12:49] {Will49} you should be ashamed
[12:49] {Threei}  I am
[12:49] {dolores} they dont understand about markets
[12:49] {Will49} :)
[12:49] {Threei}  pouring ashes on my head
[12:49] {dolores} ok will give it 5 more min and if not will cover
[12:51] {dolores} ok covered back later
[12:52] {Threei}  argh
[12:52] {Threei}  it was waiting for you to get out
[12:57] {dino} skul to .10
[12:58] {dino} pcyc to .02
[12:59] {dino} make it .05, ting will slip
[12:59] {dino} skul to .15
[13:00] {dino} out pcyc .05, +.70
[13:01] {scottie} spn short .95 ?
[13:04] {dino} out skul .15, +51
[13:05] {dino} .
[13:09] {Threei}  nah
[13:09] {Threei}  glued to a plca
[13:09] {Threei}  place
[13:09] {scottie} ok
[13:10] {Threei}  i mean, WLP is not enough?? :)
[13:10] {dptl} use that stick of yours now
[13:10] {Will49} barely keeping me awake
[13:12] {Will49} stick stick stick
[13:16] {goryl} altr
[13:16] {goryl} sorry:) mistyped
[13:17] {nemo} iwm spy bounce coming
[13:21] {nemo} look for bounce around here
[13:22] {dptl} out half
[13:22] {Will49} yea...finally
[13:23] {dptl} stop to .16
[13:23] {Threei}  haha
[13:23] {Threei}  and saved the stick
[13:24] {dptl} lol
[13:25] {dptl} all out ty
[13:26] {Will49} ty also
[13:26] {dolores} nice WLP
[13:27] {dolores} I see doggies made me loose money !will deduct it from their food!!!
[13:27] {Threei}  :)
[13:27] {nemo} DOLORES!!!!
[13:27] {dptl} roflol
[13:27] {nemo} Trading is your responsibility
[13:27] {Threei}  it dropped next minute after you posted exit, dolores :(
[13:27] {nemo} hehehehhehehe
[13:27] {dolores} well
[13:27] {RonS} loose is not lose...
[13:28] {nemo} not her mothertongue Ron
[13:28] {dptl} better have a parrot like ese
[13:28] {Threei}  guys, anyone ever experiwnced thr bait and switch by Expeduia website?
[13:28] {dolores} yes you are right lose
[13:29] {nemo} I like bunny myself
[13:29] {Threei}  showing you the price that changes by a few hundred bucks as soon as you try to book?
[13:29] {RonS} np pet peeve here...ese does it all the time and he is a supposed teacher
[13:30] {RonS} nke acting like death...
[13:30] {scottie} Ok guys, see you monday
[13:31] {RonS} cya scottie
[13:31] {Threei}  take care scottie
[13:32] {RonS} White House asks YouTube to review whether anti-Muslim film violates terms of service
[13:32] {RonS} panderer in chief...
[13:33] {RonS} this guy is going to make neville chamberlain look like attila the hun
[13:33] {Threei}  oh jeez...
[13:34] {RonS} "i support free speech but wnat You Tube to shut it down...so not my fault...and now that i think about it is bush's fault"
[13:35] {dino} why are they allowed to do whatever they want to us, but we cannot say anything bad about them?
[13:36] {RonS} feerings...
[13:37] {RonS} maybe to be muslim is to be female?
[13:37] {Threei}  about dozen US embasies are under ciege
[13:37] {Threei}  siege?
[13:37] {nemo} Islam means submit
[13:38] {nemo} you are a subject in a monarchical system
[13:38] {RonS} theocracy
[13:39] {nemo} basically
[13:39] {dolores} siege
[13:39] {nemo} It's interesting, take any religion...go back to Moses for instance, and play the roll of a police detective investigating the incident
[13:39] {nemo} So, Mr. Moses, what happened?
[13:40] {nemo} I was sitting there, and the bush just burst into flames and started to talk to me..
[13:40] {nemo} Detective:  "Uh, huh?"
[13:40] {nemo} Ralph, call an ambulance from the Pschiatry hospital
[13:41] {dino} exactly
[13:41] {dino} bunch of stories w/o proof
[13:41] {nemo} Well, which get's us back to the organic wetware of the majority, and our relative gullability as a species
[13:42] {dino} agree
[13:42] {dino} in any case, just got a call for some golf. calling it a pretty good day here and hitting the links. thx all for ideas
[13:42] {dptl} leaving early..see ya tomorrow all
[13:42] {nemo} We are beings of emotion that have the potential for rationality, not the other way around
[13:43] {dptl} oops monday it is
[13:43] {Will49} have a great weekend DP
[13:44] {Will49} don't spend your WLP winnings all in one place
[13:44] {Threei}  take care dp
[13:44] {dptl} good weekend all
[13:44] {dptl} :)
[13:44] {Will49} better than a poke in the eye with a sharp "stick" though
[13:45] {dino} l8r all
[13:45] {Will49} peace dino
[13:45] {dino} u2 buddy
[13:46] {Will49} may the gods be with you:D
[13:51] {dolores} ok guys have to g now
[13:52] {dolores} have a grate weekend !
[13:52] {Will49} see ya D
[13:52] {dolores} ha ha rin great ! got you
[13:52] {dolores} ron
[13:52] {Threei}  take care dolores
[13:52] {RonS} same to you dolores
[13:52] {dolores} you too
[13:52] {dolores} good trading
[13:53] {Threei}  was a very good week
[13:53] {goryl} Vad, i'm still undecided about which broker to use:) Does anyone in this room who resides in the US trade with Nonko group?
[13:53] {Threei}  yes... both US and Canada
[13:54] {Threei}  what's your concern?
[13:55] {goryl} llc vs. fdic brokerage firm?
[13:56] {Threei}  ah
[13:56] {Threei}  that's more of a lifestyle choice :)
[13:57] {goryl} more than likely i'll go with Nonko...
[14:00] {nemo} bored...refletching arrows
[14:01] {Will49} refletching = thinking about why you just puked
[14:02] {RonS} lol
[14:03] {Threei}  rofl
[14:03] {Threei}  will, that was the best line of the day
[14:03] {RonS} classic
[14:03] {Threei}  took me a few to put it together... foreigner, you know
[14:04] {Will49} tks
[14:13] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Lockhart: Labor market is now front and center, employment remains lower than it was before the beginning of the recession
[14:13] {Threei}  doesn't it tell you that your response has been wrong?
[14:14] {RonS} brilliance abounds
[14:15] {Threei}  I am telling you... those who say this election is the most important one in our lifetime do not exaggerate
[14:15] {Will49} can't believe the BS that abounds
[14:15] {Threei}  this level os BSing I've seen last time only when USSR was alive
[14:16] {Threei}  I never thought it was possible to see it again
[14:16] {Will49} nor me
[14:17] {Will49} I started to work in politics in the late 50s. Just can't believe how far (down) we've come
[14:52] {Threei}  all I want is one more nice play
[15:02] {Threei}  speaking of "deserving a vchance"... http://nymag.com/news/features/housing-projects-2012-9/
[15:24] {Will49} scanner pretty quite Vad?
[15:24] {Threei}  very
[15:24] {Will49} lots of stock patterns are very similar
[15:26] {goryl} vad, sbux i took a short at .48 thinking they'll go for the test of the lows.  Is my logic ok?:) paper trading:)
[15:26] {Threei}  it's a valid trade, no doubt
[15:26] {goryl} thanks boss:)
[15:27] {Threei}  may ior may not work, as any of them, but the setup is there
[15:32] {goryl} Vad, do you also initiate trades based on where hard stops might be placed? Get a free ride based off the stops?
[15:32] {Threei}  that's one of the ideas behind breakout/breakdown setups, certainly
[15:33] {Threei}  when you see them rocketing after breaking the level, that's often the effect fueled by those stops
[15:33] {nemo} short squeeze
[15:34] {goryl} but they can also one tick it and get their feed of off the breakout traders right?
[15:34] {goryl} and go short
[15:34] {Threei}  sorry, not sure I understsnd
[15:35] {nemo} he's talking a retrace after busting stops
[15:35] {nemo} sure, that can happen too
[15:35] {goryl} if they lift the high or low by a cent or two and reverse..
[15:36] {goryl} so seeing where the smart money is setting up is the key:)
[15:37] {nemo} psychology of the chart
[15:37] {goryl} Dr. Vad "The Psychologist"
[15:37] {Threei}  the doctor will see you now
[15:38] {goryl} but u need to have insurance first:)
[15:39] {goryl} thanks everyone for the knowledge and have a great weekend.  See u all on Monday...
[15:39] {Will49} be good goryl
[15:39] {Threei}  you too goryl
[15:50] {Will49} Good learning week Vad... and made few bucks too
[15:50] {Will49} See you Monday
[15:50] {Threei}  thank you all guys
[15:50] {Threei}  have a great weekend
[15:50] {Threei}  good going will
[15:50] {Will49} :)
[15:50] {Threei}  making bucks on the first week of real money trading
[15:50] {Threei}  not many can brag
[15:50] {Will49} actually second week
[15:51] {Will49} but thnaks anyway, it's coming
[15:51] {Threei}  oh, I take it bck then
[15:51] {Threei}  :)
[15:51] {Will49} :(
[15:51] {Threei}  not an achievement, everyone can do it on second week
[15:51] {Will49} :/
[15:51] {Will49} I'm also learning to use the icons
[15:51] {Threei}  see you all on Monday
[15:58] {Beau} good weekend all

Thursday, September 13, 2012

Sep 13 2012

Reversal BMR setup, nice and easy 1:3; right from 111 Trades pages. And that's on top of 4 winning trades earlier, with one 6 cents stop - on FOMC day, no less.



Finished with couple more wins - no complaints other than the Fed continuing destruction.

Session Time: Thu Sep 13 00:00:00 2012
[08:18] {robbers} Nemo, got a minute or two?
[08:18] {nemo} yep
[08:18] {robbers} Could you sum up any trading differences between you and Vad...will help me trade today.
[08:19] {nemo} I'm not sure I can tell you what the specific technical differences are
[08:20] {nemo} It's what you're personality sees when it looks at a chart or LII
[08:20] {robbers} Going for the same basic basket of stocks?  Generally the same "scalping" style?
[08:20] {nemo} He sees certain pattern setups that he recognizes.
[08:20] {nemo} He focuses more on "relative" scalps
[08:21] {nemo} I try to look longer timeframe within the intraday environment
[08:22] {nemo} I use pivots and vwap to get a sense of where action may go, in addition to chart formations
[08:22] {nemo} As for my iwm/spy stuff, that's a mechanical multi-time frame system that also incorporates fib retraces
[08:23] {nemo} Anyway, on  standard stock, I look at 1 3 15 and daily time frames
[08:23] {nemo} on the daily I want to know where the 50 and 200 day moving average is
[08:24] {nemo} I want to know where gaps are where it broke out from
[08:24] {nemo} Is there an obvious fib retracement that can be drawn on the daily
[08:24] {nemo} See, different people trade different indicators
[08:24] {nemo} and different time frames
[08:25] {robbers} Do you use the same trading terminology?
[08:25] {nemo} When you see multiples converge, that means lots of different styles are watching the same level
[08:25] {nemo} I think we do for the most part
[08:25] {nemo} pick a stock you want to go over
[08:26] {robbers} Silver Weaton, just arbitrarily, or INTC.
[08:26] {nemo} o.k. slw
[08:26] {nemo} first look at the daily
[08:27] {nemo} first you see you're coming into downtrend resistance
[08:28] {robbers} Okay...
[08:28] {nemo} yesterday, you had a strong day because there is a hammer configuration
[08:29] {nemo} tried to push price action down, that tested support from resistance 3 days ago
[08:29] {nemo} see that
[08:29] {nemo} ?
[08:29] {nemo} what just hit
[08:29] {nemo} ahhh jobless claims
[08:30] {robbers} At about 35.80 or so?
[08:31] {robbers} Or the upper at 36.40 or so?
[08:31] {nemo} you mean 34.80 on the 24th?
[08:31] {nemo} hold on I just screwed you up have the weekly up
[08:31] {robbers} No, in the last three days.
[08:31] {nemo} sheesh
[08:33] {nemo} actually, on the daily notice how it goes down yesterday to 35.02, basically testing the breakout area from 8/31
[08:33] {nemo} you see that?
[08:33] {nemo} http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=08ce50c2-ca50-4b4d-81cc-697e8d24a707
[08:33] {robbers} Yes.
[08:34] {nemo} so, that's a test of the breakout area, that's one you file away, dropping that where's your next support?
[08:36] {robbers} Just under 35?
[08:37] {nemo} top of that breakout is a possibility, then the bottom of the candle from the 5th
[08:37] {nemo} then notice how the price action just about met that fibonacci retracement?
[08:38] {nemo} Also, the middle of that tall green candle is likely to be a support area
[08:38] {nemo} So now from the daily you have areas of likely inflection to apply to short term trading
[08:39] {robbers} Yes, I get it.....Anyway, I think I get it basically:  different use of technicals, longer term trades generally for more than scalps, and pretty much same terminology.  Anything else?
[08:40] {nemo} No...as I said though He sees trades I don't and I see trades he doesn't...in the end you have to find the trades you see
[08:41] {robbers} Yeah, always the goal, huh?
[08:41] {nemo} no other way
[08:41] {robbers} Am taking a trip to breakfastville...will be back in a bit.
[08:41] {nemo} Excuse me for a few...I have to reboot
[08:41] {robbers} Thanks, Nemo, that'll help me a lot today.
[09:01] {jackharry} good morning
[09:01] {Threei}  morning jack
[09:02] {nemo}  poch ma hon
[09:07] {jackharry} Now now Nemo, that's not nice!
[09:09] {Threei}  you just made his day
[09:09] {nemo} I can die happy
[09:09] {nemo} think I'll start drinking
[09:10] {Threei}  see what you did jack... do we really want that??
[09:10] {nemo} they walk right into it
[09:10] {Threei}  drinking zombie?
[09:14] {nemo} wow, why did oil take off
[09:18] {Threei}  in case you missed another evidence of economic recovery, Initial Jobless Claims 382K, versus the consensus of 370K $$
[09:18] {nemo} yeah saw that
[09:18] {nemo} ya know' we should just nuke the middle east
[09:18] {nemo} you can drill through glass
[09:20] {RonS} O response will be what he does everyday...drone
[09:20] {Will49} Good morning
[09:20] {Threei}  ron, will :)
[09:20] {nemo} He'll announce an SPR release
[09:21] {RonS} meantime oil is spiking...
[09:21] {nemo} yeah, that should help an economic recovery
[09:21] {nemo} not
[09:22] {RonS} back of my mind thinking O Oct surprise...back Israel Iran attack...
[09:22] {ese} morning........really
[09:22] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:23] {Threei}  so... QE or no QE
[09:23] {ese} big statement there Ron
[09:23] {RonS} win election by country rallying around a wartime prez...
[09:23] {Threei}  making bets?
[09:23] {RonS} no QE
[09:23] {scottie} gm
[09:23] {Threei}  scottie :)
[09:23] {Beau} good morning all
[09:23] {Threei}  beau :)
[09:24] {RonS} fed is political animal first...too close to election...cannot be seen as favoring
[09:24] {ese} yup............my bet is no qe3...............he's done sweet F A so far why would he change that
[09:24] {Threei}  my feel is, no or some smallish rather symbolic QE
[09:25] {nemo} my feel is Bennie is assasinated mid speech
[09:25] {Threei}  lol
[09:25] {robbers} I agree, Three, maybe just yet another adjustment to the "language."
[09:25] {Threei}  feel or wish?
[09:25] {nemo} hopefully there's no delay, it's a headshot, and we see his skull explode
[09:26] {dino} gm
[09:26] {nemo} mmmhhhhh....probably need my meds adjusted
[09:26] {RonS} amazing and from a bunny coddler no less
[09:26] {Threei}  yes, some tweak in language is certainly a most likely option
[09:26] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:26] {nemo} yeah, it'll be in pig latin
[09:26] {Threei}  swuahili?
[09:26] {nemo} Elvish
[09:27] {robbers} Fedspeak.
[09:28] {robbers} Three, thought you were out today, are you trading with us?
[09:28] {Threei}  hmm?
[09:28] {Threei}  why would I be out?
[09:29] {robbers} Conference?
[09:29] {Threei}  that's last weekend of Sept
[09:29] {robbers} Clearly I'm confused which is normal.  Thanks.
[09:29] {Threei}  :)
[09:30] {ese} we on this board are not normal..............that should help ya
[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .80 break hl
[09:31] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[09:33] {nemo} nuan
[09:33] {nemo} break of .50
[09:34] {Threei}  1:1
[09:35] {scottie} +.12 ty Vad
[09:35] {robbers} Got it, thanks.
[09:35] {Will49} Got .11
[09:35] {nemo} stop under .45 this is iffy
[09:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .45 break
[09:36] {Threei}  If holds  .35
[09:36] {Threei}  target 1:3
[09:37] {dino} shld?
[09:37] {nemo} partialing .64
[09:37] {Threei}  (GR) IMF: Greece will require a 3rd bailout; funding gaps cannot be filled on its own; any euro exit would send Greece back many decades
[09:37] {Threei}  no fresh news, dino
[09:38] {Threei}  take that .50, LVS
[09:38] {Threei}  and iksplode
[09:38] {dino} lol greece, real surprising
[09:38] {Threei}  that's the korreqt spelling, iksplode
[09:39] {Threei}  playing by the book, no creativity
[09:40] {nemo} offering .81 nuan
[09:40] {Threei}  nice
[09:40] {nemo} change to .79
[09:40] {ese} what X is Bernackers making his statement?
[09:41] {Threei}  2:15 I believe
[09:41] {ese} tks
[09:42] {Threei}  scalpers win
[09:43] {dolores} hello GM
[09:44] {ese} D
[09:44] {Threei}  dolores :)
[09:45] {Threei} Long Setup:  GLD  .70 break
[09:45] {RonS} Obama Snubs Netanyahu, But Invites the Leader of Muslim Brotherhood for Tea at White House Next Week
[09:45] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[09:46] {Threei}  1:1
[09:47] {Threei}  tell me it's a joke ron
[09:47] {nemo} stop under .70
[09:48] {RonS} http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/unreal-obama-invites-muslim-brotherhood-egyptian-leader-to-meet-next-week-refuses-to-meet-netanyahu/
[09:48] {dino} wow
[09:49] {Will49} more Jewish money for Mitt's campaign
[09:49] {RonS} they are chained to the dem reservation
[09:52] {Threei}  1:2, out
[09:52] {ese} thats a rag that thing............
[09:53] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .60 break
[09:53] {Threei}  If holds  .50
[09:54] {Threei}  1:1
[09:54] {goryl} wow, i couldn't catch both of those trades, way too fast:)
[09:54] {Will49} same here
[09:54] {jackharry} and here
[09:54] {scottie} and here
[09:54] {robbers} and here
[09:54] {Beau} same
[09:55] {goryl} ok:)
[09:55] {Will49} it's tha half-second between Vads alert and my finger
[09:55] {Will49} gotta get mirc I guess.
[09:56] {Threei} Short Setup: POT  .55 break
[09:56] {Threei}  If holds  .65
[09:58] {goryl} mirc wouldn't help in both of those trades.  I had my finger on the trigger but the price jumped too quickly.
[09:59] {goryl} part of the business I guess:)
[09:59] {Will49} maybe paying attention will help me :)
[10:08] {dino} usg sm l .10
[10:09] {nemo} Vad
[10:10] {nemo} tell us a story
[10:10] {Threei}  which story?
[10:10] {Will49} nemos bored already
[10:10] {Threei}  once upon a time...
[10:10] {nemo} I'm bored
[10:10] {Threei}  there was a man named Ben...
[10:10] {Threei}  aka currency destroyer
[10:11] {Will49} there once was a man named Benny
[10:11] {Threei} Long Setup:  MOS  .55 break
[10:11] {Will49} that would sell his soul for a penny
[10:11] {Threei}  If holds  .45
[10:14] {Threei} Long Setup:  EBAY  .95 break
[10:14] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[10:15] {Threei}  change MOS trigger to .50
[10:15] {Threei}  same stop though, under ,45
[10:16] {Threei}  EBAY target between .10 and .15
[10:16] {Threei}  MOS around .65 - .70
[10:16] {nemo} dltr dino
[10:20] {dino} hmm
[10:20] {Threei}  no worky EBAY
[10:21] {Threei}  half out MOS
[10:21] {Threei}  stop to .49
[10:23] {scottie} +.09 ty Vad
[10:23] {Threei}  :)
[10:23] {dino} usg stop -.25
[10:30] {Threei}  (GR) France Fin Min Moscovici: Greece's Govt has the will to conduct the reforms necessary to stay within the EMU
[10:31] {Threei}  if you reepeat "sugar" 100 times, do you feel sweetness in your mouth?
[10:31] {Threei}  - NYSE volume 110M shares, about 28% below its three-month average; NASDAQ volume 315M shares, about 13% below its three-month average
[10:33] {dino} crus sm l .90
[10:34] {Threei}  (GR) Greece Fin Min denies earlier IMF comments that Greece would require a third bailout
[10:34] {dino} ltm?
[10:34] {Threei}  he has 4th in sights already I guess, and contemplates 5th, sol this talk about 3rd is just silly
[10:35] {Threei}  LTM no news since July 31, when they hired advisors to sell
[10:35] {dino} ltm sm l .75
[10:37] {jackharry} Read an article over the weekend that nationalist politicians in Greece are claiming they are owed 86 billion euros from Germany as reparations from WW2, and therefore if they got that they wouldn't need any bailouts!
[10:37] {nemo} And all of Europe owes us for the Marshall Plan
[10:37] {Threei}  so, this is simply the plot to get it through the back door
[10:37] {Threei}  well played Greece, well played
[10:38] {nemo} and Egypt still owes the jews reparations
[10:38] {ese} have a great rest of the day.....more auditions to do......cya tomorrow
[10:38] {Threei}  take care ese
[10:38] {nemo} n
[10:41] {dolores} MOS against the market
[10:42] {scottie} vz long ?
[10:42] {Threei}  too narrow...
[10:43] {scottie} k
[10:43] {Threei} Long Setup:  CLF  .60 break
[10:43] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[10:43] {Threei}  .50
[10:45] {Threei}  target 1:3
[10:46] {dino} crus to .25
[10:46] {dino} out, +.35
[10:47] {Threei}  wtg
[10:47] {dino} ty
[10:49] {dolores} wow MOS nice bounce
[10:50] {Threei}  rinsed balance
[10:50] {Threei}  scoundrel
[10:50] {nemo} mcp
[10:51] {goryl} vad, u out of clf?
[10:51] {Threei}  why?
[10:52] {Threei}  haven't reached either taget or stop
[10:52] {Threei}  1:1
[10:52] {goryl} thought u said rinsed balance?
[10:52] {Threei}  oh, that was in response to dolores MOS remark
[10:52] {goryl} my bad:)
[10:52] {Threei}  first partial out
[10:52] {Threei}  stop to under b/e... you know the routine
[10:53] {Threei}  and if anyone missed it after it danced around entry for about 5 minutes, just give me a gun
[10:59] {dino} scanners slowing down
[10:59] {nemo} fcx
[10:59] {nemo} fio
[10:59] {nemo} big short interest
[11:00] {nemo} l fcx .11
[11:00] {Threei}  1:2
[11:00] {nemo} stop under .05
[11:00] {scottie} +.20 ty Vad
[11:00] {Threei}  :)
[11:01] {nemo} bidding .03 fio small
[11:01] {dino} w/ya nemo
[11:01] {dino} on fcx
[11:01] {nemo} ahh
[11:01] {nemo} stop under .90 fio
[11:02] {nemo} why do I get the feeling I'm a whack a mole
[11:02] {nemo} spy highs
[11:02] {dino} dk, buddy, just know i've had more than my share of rinses this week
[11:02] {nemo} heavy news week
[11:03] {Threei}  ECB loans to Greece banks �30.9B as of end of August
[11:03] {dolores} someone reading bens report ahead ?
[11:04] {Threei}  {Greece} OK, can we squeeze something else before the game's over, or it's time to get out
[11:04] {Will49} out CLF 1:2
[11:06] {Threei}  anyone else CLF?
[11:06] {robbers} still in 1.2
[11:06] {dolores} out already
[11:06] {robbers} 1/2
[11:06] {Threei}  ok... I thought everyone was happy to report misses only {G}
[11:07] {Threei}  1:3 target hit
[11:07] {robbers} out now
[11:07] {Threei}  over and out
[11:07] {robbers} Thanks, Vad.
[11:07] {Threei}  welcome sir
[11:07] {nemo} moving my stop up to .09 ish
[11:07] {Threei}  1 6 cetns stop
[11:07] {Threei}  the rest are winners
[11:07] {Will49} tks Vad
[11:08] {Threei}  can I go home till ben's verbal diahreea?
[11:08] {nemo} yeah, go spend some quality time with your wife
[11:09] {robbers} Go practice your ballet dancing.
[11:09] {nemo} whoa
[11:09] {nemo} bad visual
[11:09] {nemo} vad in a tu tu
[11:09] {Threei}  hmmm... can I practice suffocating myself?
[11:09] {robbers} We were joking about it last friday.
[11:09] {nemo} what's this "we" shit?
[11:10] {robbers} Before Vad took up marshall arts instead.
[11:10] {nemo} ?
[11:10] {nemo} oh the Sith arts?
[11:10] {nemo} Darth Vad?
[11:10] {robbers} Sorry, my humor relies on people remembering very small snippets of conversation, so it's hard to read sometimes.
[11:11] {robbers} Or it's just bad humor.
[11:11] {Threei}  what is it, laugh at vad's expense day?
[11:11] {nemo} latter
[11:11] {Threei}  I thought it was ben
[11:11] {nemo} every day
[11:11] {nemo} would like .50ish on FCX
[11:12] {Threei}  bad humor is just fine here robbers... I mean, someone falling in the paddle face first has me in stitchs for hours
[11:12] {nemo} SFSG dino
[11:14] {dino} ?
[11:14] {nemo} So Far So Good
[11:14] {dino} ltm stop -.26
[11:14] {dino} ahh, thought it was a stock
[11:15] {nemo} pardon moi
[11:15] {dino} has vad the implaler called it a day already?
[11:15] {nemo} HIGH CALL VOLU $PHM 1090% $CAH 553% $PIR 490% $VLO 280% $JNK 269% $TYC 266% $OCR 195% $AEM 190% $CCL 165% $CI 141%
[11:15] {Threei}  visual (no, not a tu tu): http://goo.gl/jAEyL
[11:16] {nemo} yeah, he's skewering som shishkabob
[11:18] {Threei}  I have photos of thast too
[11:20] {Threei}  who hasn't done 111 Trades yet, you may want to... will do wonders to finding and recognizing these setups
[11:21] {nemo} offering .48 partial fcx
[11:22] {Threei}  beautiful trade
[11:22] {Threei}  who can't name the setup nemo took on this one, hang your head in shame
[11:23] {nemo} JBE
[11:23] {goryl} took that one on paper as well:)
[11:23] {goryl} i'm slowly seeing the light:)
[11:23] {nemo} sure it's not an oncoming train?
[11:24] {dino} lol
[11:24] {Threei}  total photogeek joke, feel free not to laugh: to see the light faster, you need an F2 lens
[11:25] {dino} tgh drop
[11:25] {scottie} anf long 38 ?
[11:26] {dino} out fcx +.25 ty nemo
[11:26] {goryl} :)
[11:26] {Threei}  would be if held .90, scottie
[11:26] {dino} grrr, ltm, usg rinses
[11:27] {scottie} ok
[11:27] {scottie} that's what I thoght when I saw it drop
[11:28] {scottie} spr long 24 ?
[11:30] {Threei}  chart configuration is right, but I'd skip it,
[11:30] {scottie} why?
[11:30] {Threei}  ona narrow side, and with activity dying down, will be a struggle
[11:30] {scottie} ok
[11:30] {Threei}  Markets Await Helicopter Ben
[11:30] {Threei}  - Equity trading has been choppy this morning ahead of the FOMC decision and press conference as traders await word on Chairman Bernanke's plans. Few analysts doubt that some sort of easing will be announced, although there is little consensus about what might be in the offing.
[11:31] {Threei}  On the one hand, some say the Fed will restrict itself to more "verbal easing," with no further asset purchases launched. Others see a possible extension or modification of Operation Twist. Many are calling for a new bond-buying program with big numbers and fixed completion dates, possibly involving mortgage asset buying. Some expect the Fed to signal it is committed to an easy money policy until the economy meets set benchmarks for improvement.
[11:32] {Will49} in other words, nobody knows what will happen...just a lot of guessing
[11:32] {Threei}  totally
[11:33] {Will49} waste of hot air
[11:33] {Threei}  as soon as you see someone saying "this and that WILL hsppen", you know you see a fraud with agenda or an idiot
[11:33] {Threei}  (EU) Germany Chancellor Merkel: Germany cannot spend more than it takes in each year; seeing markets still speculating that the EMU could be broken up- Reiterates that joint euro area debt is not a solution. - Supports the conditionality of the ECB OMT bond buying plan and supports Draghi call for economic reforms.
[11:33] {Will49} could heat half of Boston with all that hot air
[11:36] {dino} tgh sm l .85
[11:37] {Threei}  Another lukewarm payrolls report last Friday all but guaranteed that the FOMC will take some new action today, the only question is if the committee will go all in today or take a more incremental approach. The latter is the slightly more likely scenario, allowing the Fed to mete out the new stimulus over the next few meetings (today, Oct 24, Dec 12). Under this scenario, the Fed could announce an extension of the low rate pledge today, stretching it to 2015 from the current "late 2014" date, and then move ahead with the QE3 program in Oct or Dec. Allowing the new stimulus to unfold over two or three meetings would give the Fed the advantage of seeing more incoming data along the way and to avoid some of the stigma of being seen acting during the height of the US election cycle, though Fed governors of all stripes insist that the central bank remains independent and largely ignores the political situation. On the other hand, Bernanke and friends may decide to go all in today with QE3 and an extension of the low rate pledge, though this could provoke more than the usual one-man dissent (Lacker).
[11:38] {Threei}  notice that today's release will be two-staged
[11:39] {Threei}  **At 14:00ET, the Fed will release its updated economic forecasts, which will give it another option for verbal guidance. If more QE is justified due to a waning economy, the Fed may need to revise 2012 and 2013 numbers lower again. The Fed has also indicated it will extend the GDP, Unemployment and inflation forecasts out to 2015 today (through 2014 previously).
[11:39] {Threei}  **Bernanke press conference starts at 14:15ET to explain the Fed's policy changes. One reason QE3 may be expected today is that there is a scheduled press conference so Bernanke will be able to explain the effort thoroughly. If the Fed holds off on QE3 today it will also give Bernanke a chance to shape expectations for when it will come, likely by the Dec 11-12 FOMC meeting which is the next one that includes a press conference. If QE3 comes today, Bernanke will also have to frame the Fed's reasoning, either concerns about a worsening economy, or emphasizing the Fed's resolve to steer the economy to a faster recovery.
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[11:43] {dolores} so at 12.30 pm they only release the rate?
[11:45] {dino} at the risk of being heckled, putting on a fade book swing
[11:48] {dino} spsc drop thinny
[11:49] {nemo} fed press release 10 minutes
[11:51] {dolores} its 12.30 nemo
[11:53] {dolores} LVS short?
[11:55] {Threei}  not sure
[11:56] {Threei}  looks stalled
[11:57] {Threei}  FCX all the way back
[12:03] {nemo} lo
[12:13] {dino} ltm sm l .95
[12:15] {dino} mkt drop
[12:16] {Threei}  (DE) German President signs euro zone ESM and fiscal pact treaties, as expected- German Pres will give his final ratification of ESM and fiscal pact once the govt enforces the conditions set by the constitutional court.
[12:19] {Threei}  nemo... you wanted a story?
[12:19] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/noVBw
[12:20] {dino} imgn drop
[12:25] {Threei}  The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 46% of the vote. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.
[12:25] {Threei}  This is the first time in a week that Romney has held even a single-point advantage.
[12:28] {dolores} C ABD BAC AT HIGHS
[12:28] {dino} skul, no bounce like kate upton
[12:31] {Threei}  no change in rate
[12:31] {Threei}  To buy $40B in agency MBS per month starting friday; extending low rate pledge through mid 2015- vote 11-1
[12:32] {nemo} endless money printing
[12:32] {dolores} thats the Qe3?
[12:32] {nemo} oil going through the roof
[12:32] {nemo} spy 153 here we come
[12:32] {dino} out ltm .49, +.54
[12:33] {nemo} 500 billion a year for as long as it takes dolores
[12:34] {dino} tbt sm l .15
[12:35] {Threei}  -Committee agreed today to increase policy accommodation by purchasing additional agency mortgage-backed securities at a pace of $40 billion per month. The Committee also will continue through the end of the year its program to extend the average maturity of its holdings of securities as announced in June, and it is maintaining its existing policy of reinvesting principal payments from its holdings of agency debt and agency mortgage-backed securities in agency mortgage-backed securities. These actions, which together will increase the Committees holdings of longer-term securities by about $85 billion each month through the end of the year, should put downward pressure on longer-term interest rates, support mortgage markets, and help to make broader financial conditions more accommodative.
[12:35] {dolores} seems less than what ws expected as partly is already being done
[12:36] {dolores} iadditional will be less athan 85 b
[12:36] {Threei}  hanf T balance sheet expansion annually
[12:36] {dino} out tbt +.20
[12:37] {nemo} GS selling
[12:37] {dino} oil drop
[12:38] {Threei}  - If the outlook for the labor market does not improve substantially, the Committee will continue its purchases of agency mortgage-backed securities, undertake additional asset purchases, and employ its other policy tools as appropriate until such improvement is achieved in a context of price stability
[12:38] {Threei}  ok... we have to have Romney in WH now more than ever
[12:38] {Threei}  if for no other reason, then simply to get rid of Ben
[12:39] {dino} helicopter ben dover
[12:39] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .90 break hl
[12:39] {Threei}  If holds  45
[12:40] {dino} ok, should get drop soon. fed dayts usually 3 bigger type moves
[12:41] {Threei}  Invalidated
[12:43] {Threei}  US long bond yield inches towards 3% following FOMC
[12:46] {Threei}  does this wording by fed reminds you something?
[12:47] {Threei}  If the outlook for the labor market does not improve substantially, the Committee will continue its purchases of agency mortgage-backed securities, undertake additional asset purchases, and employ its other policy tools as appropriate until such improvement is achieved in a context of price stability
[12:47] {Threei}  The beating will continue...
[12:47] {dino} here comes the down
[12:47] {Threei} Short Setup: GLD  170 break smallish shares
[12:47] {Threei}  If holds  .15
[12:48] {Threei}  target $1
[12:48] {dino} nice
[12:48] {Threei}  I mean 168, not 1 exactly, lol
[12:48] {Threei}  half out
[12:48] {Threei}  1:2, +.30
[12:49] {Threei}  169, sheesh
[12:49] {Threei}  stop to .05
[12:55] {dptl} good afternoon
[12:55] {Threei}  you think?
[12:56] {dptl} :)
[12:56] {Threei}  not bad actually, but morning was better
[12:56] {dptl} have t
[12:56] {dptl} oops
[12:57] {dptl} came in to say hello, gonna leave again in an hour
[12:57] {Threei}  you like us... you really like us!
[12:57] {dptl} i do...lol
[12:58] {Threei}  :)
[12:58] {Threei}  in fact, you just hpe one day ese will invite you to one of the photoshoots
[12:59] {Threei}  OK... balance didn't quite get to $1 on GLD
[12:59] {Threei}  but no complaining here
[12:59] {dptl} lol.......
[13:02] {dino} gdx sm s .45
[13:08] {dptl} how about lyb .50 short
[13:08] {dptl} ?
[13:08] {Threei}  I like
[13:08] {dptl} oops not in short list
[13:10] {dptl} swn .35 short?
[13:12] {Threei}  yup
[13:13] {Threei}  just a scalp most likely
[13:13] {RonS} Owners of Boston Red Sox reportedly are mulling potential sale
[13:13] {Threei}  but valid setup
[13:13] {nemo} figures one bad year, and there gone
[13:13] {dptl} stop .45?
[13:13] {nemo} pink hat owners
[13:13] {RonS} their too...
[13:14] {RonS} they're too...
[13:14] {nemo} they're actually
[13:14] {Threei}  yes
[13:14] {nemo} feel your sphincter pucker on that one ron?
[13:14] {dptl} ok in .34
[13:14] {RonS} no just the bonehead...
[13:15] {nemo} You have to wonder how skyrocketing commodities are gonna' help the unemployed
[13:16] {Threei}  heh
[13:17] {dino} gdx stop -.31
[13:21] {nemo} the only problem with endless QE, it either continue to works, or it's a big problem
[13:21] {nemo} No more rounds to shoot
[13:21] {nemo} only thing they can do is increase the amount
[13:22] {nemo} Sooner or later the market tolerance to the heroin
[13:22] {nemo} I mean money
[13:22] {nemo} will get so great they'll be expanding purchases just to slow the descent
[13:24] {Will49} nemo...how many voters do you think understand this?
[13:24] {dptl} nope did't work stopped
[13:24] {nemo} today's action alone pushed gas prices up .07/gal so far
[13:24] {nemo} enough to fill a phone booth
[13:24] {Will49} eggsactually
[13:24] {nemo} I'm buying more ammo
[13:25] {Will49} so...nothing will change
[13:25] {nemo} Think I'll start buying my neighbors food
[13:25] {nemo} I want them to taste better when I have to eat them when this whole thing collapses...;-)
[13:25] {Will49} lol
[13:25] {dino} the other problem is qe really hasn't worked, only thing its worked for is markets
[13:26] {nemo} yep...but it's about the banks, not the economy
[13:26] {dino} they should start charging banks for their deposits at fed, that would force them to lend
[13:26] {dino} slw sm s .90
[13:26] {nemo} No, can't make them lend, that's what happened last time
[13:27] {nemo} Fed knows the game is up
[13:27] {nemo} They're buying up the mortgages because they know the default rate is likely to go up with a slacking economy.  They get them off the banks book and bury them in Ft. Knox
[13:27] {nemo} figuratively of course
[13:28] {dino} 07 going nuts, blow off top in making
[13:29] {nemo} spy vollumes too low
[13:29] {nemo} volume has been decreasing since the announcement
[13:29] {nemo} this is strong buying
[13:29] {nemo} imo of course
[13:30] {dptl} wlp .70 short? not moving with market anymore
[13:30] {nemo} IWM will keep going until 86.80ish, that's the 2011 high
[13:31] {dino} where has cipher been?
[13:31] {nemo} we're just about at a swing high in iwm now
[13:33] {dino} skul drop
[13:47] {Threei}  here is a very astute observation:
[13:47] {Threei}  My thought is that just like the last two QE's, this is being sold as a move to boost the economy. In REALITY, the primary motive is to sterilize the banking system and help continue to clear our the balance sheets and repair "toxic" assets. The markets benefit from this because of the liquidity that is made available, but the benefits to the real economy are secondary/tertiary - perhaps there is modest trickle down as the balance sheet improvements allow financial institutions and companies to free up capital to make further investment in the economy. With that said, the FED has done a great job of selling this to the media/public as purely about helping the grassroots economy.
[13:47] {Threei}  not mine, quoting
[13:49] {dino} my thoughts are they are trying to inflate away all the debt. inflation makes the debt cheaper to repay. deflation makes it more expensive
[13:51] {Will49} IMHO, "they" are taking their cue from politicians who are only focussed on getting re-elected
[13:51] {Will49} but you're right dino...inflation is the vehicle
[13:54] {Will49} I think Vad went crabbing
[13:55] {Will49} wait... that's me "crabbing" about the political situation
[13:55] {Will49} Clint Eastwood and I went to school together
[13:55] {Will49} joke
[13:55] {Will49} although we are about same age
[13:57] {Will49} In fact, just last night I yelled at some kids to "get off my lawn"
[13:58] {Threei}  lol
[13:58] {Threei}  none of them risked to go ahead and make your day?
[13:59] {Will49} no siree
[13:59] {dino} lol
[14:00] {Will49} I'd chase them in my Gran Torino
[14:00] {dptl} ok...see ya tomorrow all
[14:00] {Will49} be good DP
[14:03] {dino} cya
[14:07] {dino} skul sm l .85
[14:20] {dptl} wlp
[14:32] {goryl} see u all tomorrow
[14:33] {Threei}  you too
[14:33] {Will49} TTFN
[14:34] {dino} gold and silver dropping
[14:40] {dino} skul stop
[14:50] {dino} sh l .65
[14:57] {dino} wcbo drop
[14:57] {dino} sm l .77
[15:19] {dino} i froze that thing
[15:23] {Threei}  lol
[15:24] {Threei}  everything's frozen
[15:26] {Beau} taking .20 and saying thanks dino
[15:27] {dino} out sh +.04
[15:28] {dino} ty beau
[15:28] {dino} dnb spike
[15:29] {dino} damn missed it
[15:30] {Threei}  ^%#*&^
[15:30] {Threei}  US) Fed's Bernanke: Employment situation remains a grave concern, 8.1% unemployment remains elevated and little changed since the beginning of 2012 - FOMC press conf- Monetary policy cannot cure all economic problems.
[15:30] {Threei}  uhhu... so why the blip you are pushing new round of it?}
[15:31] {Will49} nice of him to chime in while market is open
[15:31] {Threei}  remember I said "beating will cpntinue until morakle imptoves"?
[15:31] {Threei}  forget that:
[15:31] {Threei}  Accomodation will remain even as the economy improves.
[15:31] {Threei}  beating will continue after too!
[15:36] {dolores} financials pushing up
[15:40] {Threei}  guys, no trades for today for me anymore
[15:40] {Threei}  it was a very good day, no need to push
[15:40] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
[15:40] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:41] {Will49} tks Vad
[15:41] {scottie} gn all
[15:41] {dolores} you still looking for a trade vad?
[15:42] {Threei}  15:40] {Threei} guys, no trades for today for me anymore
[15:42] {Threei}  :)
[15:42] {dolores} ok thxs
[15:45] {dino} lol
[15:45] {dolores} ok guys see you tomorrow
[15:45] {dolores}  take care and thank you
[15:45] {dino} cya d
[15:46] {dino} z spike
[15:47] {dino} wcbo stop to .03
[15:50] {dino} wow, got screwed on that stop, serious slippage, out .94, +.17

Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Sep 12 2012

With 4 wins out of 4 calls so far, this one was the most textbook setup, cleanest DBI I've seen in a while:


Finishing day at 100%, no complaints at all.


Session Time: Wed Sep 12 00:00:00 2012

[09:07] {jackharry} good morning
[09:07] {goryl} gm
[09:11] {dino} gm
[09:12] {RonS} hello everyone
[09:13] {scottie} gm
[09:16] {Will49} gm
[09:18] {Beau} good morning all
[09:21] {Beau} .
[09:24] {nemo} we're lined up at the starting line
[09:24] {thomcbell} fb - hehe
[09:24] {nemo} fb i[ bog
[09:25] {nemo} wtw
[09:29] {thomcbell} aig strong as ten men
[09:29] {nemo} strong like bull
[09:33] {Beau} no vad?????
[09:33] {nemo} logged in
[09:33] {nemo} but good point
[09:35] {ese} morning........got caught up reading the news for got to sign in............and yet another reason to get rid of religion..
[09:35] {dino} agreed
[09:35] {dolores} GM
[09:35] {dolores} GM
[09:35] {dptl} gm
[09:35] {ese} D dino
[09:35] {ese} dp
[09:36] {dino} cig
[09:37] {Threei}  Goog morning
[09:38] {ese} vad
[09:38] {robbers} GM
[09:38] {Will49} whole room slaps Vad with alarm clock
[09:38] {robbers} (good morning)
[09:38] {scottie} lol
[09:38] {nemo} Vad...did I tell you FSC links up with my trading platform now?
[09:39] {ese} whats fsc nemo
[09:39] {nemo} Freestockcharts
[09:39] {ese} ah
[09:39] {nemo} it's a running joke ese
[09:40] {ese} i think free stock charts is a good sight
[09:40] {nemo} even site
[09:40] {dino} nemo getting paid by eyeballs to post that every day
[09:40] {nemo} the young ladies in your group are a good sight
[09:41] {dino} qcor dump
[09:41] {nemo} iwm touched the swing high for 2012
[09:42] {RonS} lqdt wants 48...
[09:42] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .30 break
[09:42] {Threei}  If holds  .20
[09:44] {dino} n spike
[09:46] {Threei}  stop to .24
[09:47] {Threei}  half out
[09:47] {Threei}  stop .29
[09:47] {ese} trail stop on jpm to 39.99 up 2.13 so far on 1500shs
[09:48] {scottie} +.10 thanks Vad
[09:49] {Threei}  yw
[09:49] {dino} n sm s .62
[09:51] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .35 break
[09:51] {Threei}  If holds  .40
[09:52] {dptl} mpc?
[09:52] {dptl} long?
[09:53] {dino} n to .42 bstop
[09:53] {Threei}  no MPC
[09:53] {dino} cov n .35, +.27
[09:54] {dino} damn too tight
[09:54] {Threei}  LVS target about .15
[09:55] {Threei}  half out
[09:55] {Threei}  .25
[09:55] {Threei}  dolores, to add to yesterday's exchange... actual trigger was .30 break, we took aggressive entry at .35
[09:55] {Threei}  you can see a setup at .30
[09:56] {dolores} ok thxs
[09:58] {dino} cig sm l .95
[09:58] {nemo} liking oops
[09:58] {nemo} too late
[09:58] {nemo} was gonna say
[09:59] {nemo} like vmw above .40
[09:59] {dino} mnst drop
[09:59] {nemo} been dropping
[09:59] {RonS} Brazilian utilities extend drop as gov't pushes to cut rates
[10:01] {dino} thx
[10:01] {dino} cig to .99
[10:01] {dptl} jcp .75 short?
[10:02] {Threei}  probably
[10:02] {Threei}  things don't move much
[10:02] {Will49} just my speed
[10:02] {Threei}  but it feels like quiet before the storm
[10:03] {nemo} what?  reverse?
[10:03] {Threei}  ?
[10:03] {nemo} Will's speed
[10:03] {Will49} yes
[10:03] {Threei}  oh... lol
[10:03] {nemo} ur slipping vad
[10:04] {nemo} vmw likely to test 99 today if market stays strong
[10:04] {nemo} missed the .40 break, but damn missed 98 break
[10:04] {nemo} oy
[10:04] {nemo} going back to bed
[10:05] {Threei}  didn't know who you reply to (there, morning dangling preposition for you as a revenge)
[10:05] {nemo} didn't see it
[10:05] {dino} cig to .15
[10:05] {Threei}  stop to .31
[10:06] {Threei}  or should I say, to further torture nemo, "stop .31 to" {G}
[10:06] {Threei}  if loses .20, should tag second target quickly
[10:06] {nemo} l tna .80
[10:07] {nemo} stop under .74
[10:07] {dino} cip to .29
[10:07] {nemo} if this drops looking for next entry in .60 area
[10:08] {Threei} Long Setup:  POT  .95 break
[10:08] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[10:08] {dino} out cig .35, +.40
[10:09] {Threei}  LVS closed
[10:09] {Threei}  change POT trigger to .90 break
[10:09] {nemo} liking COH short
[10:09] {Threei}  .85 stop
[10:09] {Threei}  half out
[10:09] {dino} thrx spike
[10:10] {Threei}  stop .89
[10:10] {dolores} missing today
[10:10] {dolores} the tades
[10:10] {dolores} trades
[10:10] {nemo} partial .92
[10:11] {Threei}  1/4 more out
[10:11] {nemo} stop to .90
[10:11] {dino} engage maverick (dolores), engage
[10:11] {goryl} Vad, was the big vol spike the key to that trade?
[10:12] {Threei}  capitulation, yes
[10:13] {dino} lqdt vdrop
[10:13] {Threei}  trying for above .15 last piece
[10:14] {Threei}  out
[10:14] {Will49} great call Vad
[10:14] {Threei}  ty
[10:14] {Threei}  25 cents for 5 cents risk
[10:14] {Threei}  3:3
[10:14] {Threei}  can I go home?
[10:14] {Will49} pays to sleep in eh?
[10:14] {goryl} sweet:)
[10:15] {dino} lqdt sm l .13
[10:16] {nemo} RIG
[10:16] {nemo} news?
[10:17] {nemo} out tna
[10:17] {Threei}  Transocean Inc Exec: all rigs in Brazil are still under contract; company has not yet been served with injuction in Brazil as of yet - conf call comments- Would like to obtain 10-year contracts for four new planned rigs.
[10:17] {Will49} news is RIGged anyway
[10:19] {dino} n back to hod
[10:19] {nemo} that's some wild action, HFT's musta had a flash crash
[10:21] {thomcbell} long setup aig 34.04 break if holding 34
[10:22] {dino} lqdt stop .93, -.20
[10:22] {nemo} kors looking short
[10:23] {dino} f'ing rinsed
[10:23] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .80 break
[10:24] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[10:24] {Threei}  1:1
[10:24] {Threei}  fast and easy, just as we like them
[10:25] {Will49} yeah... if you can get in
[10:25] {Threei}  1:2, out
[10:25] {goryl} Vad is on fire:)
[10:25] {Threei}  this one was fairly easy to execute
[10:25] {scottie} missed it too
[10:26] {Will49} maybe I need a faster internet connection
[10:26] {goryl} i finally setup the room so i hear a loud horn every time vad speaks:) help alot
[10:26] {Will49} great idea
[10:26] {Threei}  in mirc?
[10:26] {goryl} yes
[10:26] {Threei}  .78, scottie?
[10:27] {goryl} i'm trading paper but i did get .78 fill
[10:27] {Will49} how do you set that up?
[10:27] {scottie} The time I took to prepare the setup, it was already at .76
[10:27] {dolores} how did you do that goryl?
[10:27] {Threei}  wow
[10:28] {Threei}  how do you prepare setup scottie?
[10:28] {goryl} right click on &Threei in the list
[10:28] {goryl} go to Info
[10:28] {goryl} Pick the Highlight tab
[10:28] {goryl} Click add
[10:28] {scottie} I use mibbit, maybe I should switch to mirc
[10:29] {goryl} fill in the rest.  I found a nice .wav sound
[10:29] {goryl} scottie, definitely do it.  I used mibbit for the first few days and missed some entries.
[10:30] {scottie} Took me a few seconds to see you had posted a call, and then it was too late
[10:30] {goryl} 1 second of extra time matters:)
[10:30] {Will49} you got that right
[10:30] {thomcbell} aig got stopped at 33.99
[10:30] {dolores} i dont have that info clicking the right cilck
[10:30] {Will49} how does one get mirc?
[10:31] {Threei}  instructions on trading room page, will
[10:31] {Will49} tks Vad
[10:31] {goryl} awesome calls Vad, i recorded the first 40 min on camtasia so i'll look over the entries again.
[10:31] {Threei}  you are using mibbit dolores
[10:31] {dolores} yes
[10:31] {Threei}  what goryl said is for mirc
[10:32] {dolores} oh ok
[10:32] {dolores} will check tomorrow the mirc
[10:32] {Threei}  it takes time to set up, better not do it on the fly
[10:32] {dolores} ok
[10:33] {dolores} CLF giving up all gains last days
[10:34] {goryl} my alarm sound is called "red alert" sounds like the one submarines use:)
[10:34] {Threei}  1:5... wow
[10:36] {dptl} mo .75 long?
[10:37] {Threei}  not sure
[10:38] {Threei}  visual: http://goo.gl/jK79m
[10:40] {Threei}  wow SLW... nemo, can we call that cascading?
[10:40] {nemo} nah...parachute didn't open
[10:41] {thomcbell} aig hangs in there very very well
[10:42] {dptl}  expe .35 short?
[10:42] {dino} lqdt sm l .51 wide, thing is pulp defined
[10:42] {dino} mnst new lod
[10:42] {goryl} Vad, slw looked like a capitulation play on the 10:35 candle?
[10:43] {Threei}  setup is right but trades a bit too slowly, dp
[10:43] {Threei}  not really goryl... not enough candle length to consitute full blown capitulation
[10:44] {goryl} ok, thanks
[10:44] {dino} mnst sm l .90
[10:48] {nemo} no real feel to the market this morning
[10:49] {thomcbell} long setup gdx 48.88 break if holding 48.78
[10:50] {dino} chtr spike
[10:50] {dptl} pay .60 short?
[10:51] {Threei}  no... looks rather ready to reverse
[10:51] {dptl} ok
[10:53] {Threei}  how about that?
[10:53] {dptl} ye
[10:55] {dino} mnst to .30
[10:58] {thomcbell} out gdx 49.18
[10:58] {thomcbell} 1:3
[10:59] {Threei}  wtg
[10:59] {Threei}  nice setup
[10:59] {goryl} Vad, how did you analyze pay.  It was forming a base.  How did you know smart money was building on the long side?
[11:00] {Threei}  look at the chart at the moment of the question, see how last pullback occured on diminishing volume and almost diosappearing pace
[11:01] {goryl} ahh, thanks
[11:01] {dino} chtr?
[11:02] {Threei}  last news Sept 10, CHTR
[11:02] {dino} strong
[11:03] {Threei}  National Daily Tracking: #Obama: 46%, #Romney: 45%
[11:03] {Threei}  after-convention bounce subsides
[11:05] {dptl} len .25 long?
[11:06] {Threei}  trades too sluggish for my taste
[11:06] {dptl} ok
[11:07] {dino} out mnst ,34, +.44
[11:08] {dolores} tomorrow big day with bernanke conference
[11:08] {dolores} call
[11:09] {Threei}  yes... QE or no QE
[11:09] {nemo} actually, it will be dead after first two hours until 2
[11:09] {nemo} or, 7 your time
[11:10] {nemo} or is it 8
[11:10] {nemo} I forget
[11:11] {dolores} 8
[11:11] {nemo} gracias
[11:12] {dolores} mnst testing lows good exit dino
[11:13] {dino} out lqdt .05, +.54
[11:13] {dino} ty dolores
[11:13] {Threei}  wtg
[11:14] {thomcbell} i joined you on that one dino - thanks
[11:14] {dino} hard stop saved me on mnst, dropped like a rock
[11:14] {nemo} hehehe parchute failure
[11:15] {dino} lol
[11:15] {dino} np tbell
[11:15] {dino} cig lod
[11:17] {dino} whew, bust morning
[11:18] {dino} busy, lol
[11:18] {nemo} WPI dino
[11:18] {dino} bit gradual for me
[11:19] {dino} mnst, perhaps higher low
[11:19] {dino} .75 sm l
[11:21] {thomcbell} wow gdx
[11:22] {thomcbell} gdx and slw back up to broken support here
[11:23] {thomcbell} S&P gets little bump on headline - FRANCE SAID TO PRESS SPAIN TO SEEK EU AID OVER GERMAN CONCERNS - Bloomberg          S&P futures up 7 at 1430.50 - holding steady and strong all morning thus far
[11:24] {Threei}  isn't it amazing
[11:24] {Threei}  market goes up if Spain requests aid and drops if it doesn't
[11:24] {dptl} mpc 54 short?
[11:24] {Threei}  yes
[11:24] {dolores} if MNST cannot hold .50
[11:25] {dolores} will go to test 52?
[11:25] {Threei}  most likely, yes
[11:25] {dino} maybe, hard stop .49
[11:26] {scottie} intc long .25 ?
[11:26] {dino} amazing too that france is trying to push them when france is simply a few months away from same issue
[11:27] {dino} open the printing presses boys and girls. inflate it away
[11:28] {Threei}  I am not delighted scottie
[11:28] {Threei}  too narrow
[11:28] {thomcbell} nice fight going on with aig between 33.75 and 33.90
[11:28] {Threei}  struggle for 5 cents
[11:28] {scottie} ok
[11:29] {Threei}  look at it this way guys
[11:29] {RonS} 315k block mnst
[11:29] {Threei}  we got easy money part, 4 wins out of 4 calls, with two of them working for a very nice moves,
[11:30] {Threei}  we have another major event tomorrow,
[11:30] {Threei}  easy money period is over, market is likely to become narrower and slower,
[11:30] {Threei}  so, stocks that sit within 20-30 vents range whole day are not likely to be good candidates
[11:32] {dptl} so would you skip mpc?
[11:32] {Threei}  MPC which has nicer range and won't go up with SPY while continues sitting on important support is a better candidate on break of that support
[11:33] {dptl} ok
[11:33] {scottie} swn long 35 ?
[11:33] {Threei}  worth a try
[11:33] {RonS} cig smoked
[11:34] {Beau} dino when do you use hard stops?
[11:34] {dino} lol
[11:34] {dino} most of the time, unless a stock is bid/ask more than a dime
[11:35] {dino} slippage will kill you then
[11:35] {Beau} thanks.
[11:37] {dino} once up more than .30 to .35 i move to .30
[11:37] {RonS} cig l .36
[11:39] {RonS} out -.03
[11:41] {dino} mnst stop -.26
[11:42] {RonS} cig rinse
[11:44] {dptl} had to leave...see ya tomorrow all
[11:44] {Beau} helpful dino. thx
[11:44] {RonS} nemo needs this for booze...New implants deliver electric shocks to help midnight snackers curb their diets
[11:45] {dino} mnst rinsed
[11:45] {nemo} thank you , NO!!!
[11:48] {scottie} swn went too fast
[11:51] {RonS} Spain says there's no 'urgency' to seek bailout as ECB eases yields
[12:05] {Threei}  SWN
[12:06] {Threei}  worth secondary entry here, looking for setup
[12:07] {Threei} Long Setup:  SWN  35 break
[12:07] {Threei}  If holds  .95
[12:08] {Threei}  Invalidated
[12:11] {thomcbell} short setup etn 47.40 break
[12:11] {dino} .
[12:13] {thomcbell} if holding 47.50 on etn
[12:16] {Threei} Long Setup:  SWN  .95 break
[12:16] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[12:17] {dino} mnst sm l .73
[12:33] {dolores} MPC?
[12:35] {Threei}  drifting aimlessly
[12:41] {thomcbell} etn invalidated
[12:48] {dino} things are frozen
[12:48] {RonS} aapl in 10
[12:57] {thomcbell} wow impressive miners
[13:01] {dino} mnst stop
[13:03] {scottie} YNDX ?
[13:03] {Threei}  ?
[13:04] {scottie} long .50 ?
[13:04] {Threei}  not after sharp spike from .20
[13:04] {scottie} ok
[13:07] {nemo} this whole move is aapl
[13:19] {Threei}  I am lost
[13:19] {Threei}  why are we dropping, iPhone 5 is not going to save the world economy?
[13:33] {dino} sfly drop
[13:34] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .20 break
[13:35] {Threei}  stop is obvious
[13:36] {Threei}  target 1:2
[13:36] {thomcbell} like that pattern
[13:37] {Threei}  nah, you just like that I used your favorite word
[13:38] {thomcbell} yes obvious
[13:38] {thomcbell} love it
[13:38] {Threei}  :)
[13:46] {Threei}  let's see if violence helps
06[13:46] * Threei kicks CAT in the rear
[13:46] {Threei}  hey, it does
[13:46] {Threei}  1:1
[13:46] {Threei}  play by the book
[13:47] {nemo} gmcr
06[13:49] * Threei kicks CAT in the rear with heavy duty army boots
[13:50] {Threei}  kind word and a gun... so much more effective than a kind word alone
[13:57] {RonS} anf spike
[13:57] {dino} anf
[13:57] {Threei}  ANF Retains Goldman Sachs as advisor following pressure from some investors including Relational - CNBC
[13:58] {Threei}  (DE) Germany Fin Min Schaeuble confirms an increase in ESM would require parliamentary vote; cannot count on the ECB for an easy way out
[13:58] {Threei}  halted
[13:58] {dino} lqdt sm l .51
[13:59] {Threei}  ANF, not Schaeuble
[14:09] {nemo} LO selling finishing up
[14:09] {Threei}  1:2
[14:09] {Threei}  out
[14:10] {Threei}  took a while but that's aftrenoon trading
[14:10] {scottie} played by the book +.19 ty Vad
[14:10] {Threei}  :)
[14:10] {Will49} Good call Vad
[14:10] {Threei}  5:5
[14:10] {Threei}  can I finally go home?
[14:10] {Threei}  and look what happened to my alarm clock?
[14:11] {Threei}  guys, if anyone was considering attending Toronto conference, to the best of my knowledge 3 spots left
[14:12] {Threei}  my room schedule for that weekend, FYI:
[14:13] {Threei}  I'll be off on Thu, Fri and Mon, back on Tuesday Oct 2
[14:14] {Threei}  so you'll be at nemo's mercy for 3 days
[14:14] {Will49} mercy mercy
[14:15] {Threei}  scary perspective, I know
[14:16] {dino} anf sm s .50
[14:16] {Beau} I'm sure he will be his kind, considerate self.
[14:17] {Will49} look what he just did to the market
[14:17] {Threei}  gosh... now it's even scarier
[14:17] {Threei}  kind considerat nemo - what a frikin nihgtmare
[14:17] {Will49} oxymoron
[14:22] {Threei}  don't see anything in the news fr this drop
[14:22] {nemo} you mean a whole .15!!!???
[14:22] {nemo} frickin bear market
[14:23] {nemo} omg
[14:23] {nemo} sheesh
[14:23] {nemo} sky is falling
[14:23] {nemo} did I tell ya' bunny bit me?
[14:23] {dino} cov anf .82, +.68
[14:23] {Threei}  it she poisonous?
[14:23] {RonS} not since the last time...
[14:24] {Will49} mmmm bunny stew
[14:24] {nemo} thought we were playing... right in the palm of my hand
[14:26] {scottie} TXN long .80 ?
[14:27] {Threei}  if p[ulls back once again and holds .75
[14:27] {scottie} ok
[14:29] {Threei}  yup, valid play now if breaks
[14:34] {scottie} I guess cross of .75 invalidates it
[14:36] {dino} mnst sm l .75
[14:36] {goryl} see u all tomorrow, thanks Vad
[14:37] {Threei}  take care goryl
[14:44] {dino} lqdt to .85
[14:44] {dino} out +.33
[14:48] {Threei}  wtg
[14:49] {dino} ty
[14:58] {dino} mnst stop, thing is broken
[15:05] {Threei}  NL) Netherlands election results: Liberals win most votes; winning 41 of 150 seats; Labor party wins 40 seats - exit polls- Dutch Freedom Party gets 13 seats.
[15:06] {Threei}  not sure how it reflects on EU, don't remember which party is pro and which contra
[15:12] {jackharry} Both Liberal and Labour parties in Netherlands are broadly pro european, Liberal are right of centre similar to Merkel and want to stick with austerity, Labour centre left similar to Hollande and French Socialists and want to tax and spend, but both support Euro and EU. The Freedom Party want to not only leaver the Euro but the EU as well
[15:13] {nemo} ppo bottoming
[15:16] {Threei}  thanks jack
[15:16] {Threei}  not much chance that they'd reject all that ugly contraption then
[15:18] {jackharry} Unfortunately not
[15:29] {nemo} amazing, look at spy and aapl tail wagging the dog
[15:37] {Threei}  lol... I think someone on Twitter got a window in nemo's dark mind:
[15:37] {Threei}  My "retirement plan" is to get a black belt and beat up other old people.
[15:38] {Will49} Not me please Vad
[15:38] {robbers} You could do more damage by becoming a politician.
[15:39] {scottie} How old is "old people"
[15:39] {Will49} older than Vad
[15:39] {scottie} lol
[15:39] {Threei}  he is on another cpast will... we don't have to worry I think
[15:39] {Threei}  coast
[15:41] {Threei}  it's less fun, robbers... damage you cause as a politician is larger and more lasting, but less immediate
[15:42] {robbers} True, lol.
[15:42] {robbers} But not near the damage you do to yourself in losing your personal pride.
[15:43] {Will49} do pols have personal pride?
[15:43] {Threei}  they have to check it at the door
[15:43] {Threei}  job requirement
[15:43] {Will49} maybe if you can check it...you don't have it
[15:44] {Will49} in the first place
[15:44] {Threei}  there is a guy in the booth... "personal pride, 2 lbs... honor, 125 ml... please sign here, you'll get it back when retire or lose election"
[15:44] {Will49} lol
[15:46] {Threei}  "hey, I just checked the content of the package I got back from you upon losing my last election, it's all fake!!" - "sorry sir, we return it to you 100% as it was when you checked it at the entrance... must have been fake to begin with"
[15:47] {Will49} :D
[15:47] {Will49} if we could get them to check their egos...that would be something
[15:48] {Will49} they all have big ones
[15:48] {Threei} Short Setup: TXN  .55 break
[15:48] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[15:49] {Threei}  last one for today
[15:49] {Threei}  qiick scalp if triggers
[15:51] {Threei}  time's running put
[15:51] {Threei}  out
[15:51] {Threei}  OK guys, thank you all
[15:51] {Threei}  good day with 100%
[15:51] {Will49} good day Vad
[15:51] {scottie} gn all, see you tomorrow
[15:51] {Threei}  have a great evening
[15:51] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:52] {dolores} thxs see you tomorrow
[15:52] {dolores} wow VMC popping
[15:52] {robbers} Excellent day, thanks.
[15:53] {dolores} glad I covered was short:)
[15:54] {dino} gj robbers
[15:55] {dino} dolores, we should've just shorted mnst. you had the feel i think
[15:55] {dolores} well I did not want to buy it above 51
[15:56] {dolores} but did not buy it at the end
[15:56] {dolores} was lowering and lowering each time
[15:56] {dolores} but was more into buying if it went down that shorting it
[15:56] {dolores} take care guys
[15:57] {Will49} bye D
[15:57] {dino} gn