Thursday, November 15, 2012

Nov 15 2012

Very nice day again, with plenty of winning trades. One below made Catch of the Day. Sometimes you feel as though you can see into the future... notice the call made in advance, before the setup has formed:



Session Time: Thu Nov 15 00:00:00 2012
[08:54] {scottie} good morning
01[08:55] {Threei}  scottie :)
[08:57] {scottie} Will be away for the first hour, catch you later
[09:09] {cipher} gm
01[09:09] {Threei}  cipher :)
[09:17] {nemo} mmmmhhh, we bottomed just above the  YR1 in the SPY
[09:20] {Will49} Good morning
[09:20] {Beau} good morning
01[09:20] {Threei}  will :)
01[09:20] {Threei}  beau :)
01[09:20] {Threei}  will, good news... we've found out why e-mails weren't reaching you
[09:21] {Will49} oh?
01[09:21] {Threei}  you've got yesterday's, right?
[09:21] {Will49} Haven't looked
[09:21] {Will49} will now
[09:22] {Will49} Yes, got it
[09:25] {Will49} tks for perservering
01[09:25] {Threei}  :)
[09:26] {Les} afternoon
01[09:26] {Threei}  les :)
01[09:26] {Threei}  so, election's over, and unadjusted initial claims explode by 104,548 in ONE WEEK
[09:26] {ese} morning............
[09:27] {Les} oh here you go with conspiracies again vad
01[09:27] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:27] {ese} was the storm........sandy
[09:27] {ese} that accounts for a wack of it
[09:28] {ese} but the other art is
01[09:28] {Threei}  and Europe is officially in double dip recession
[09:29] {Les} really?
[09:29] {ese} too many are messing around on husbands and wifves ....they don't have any time to work
01[09:29] {Threei}  Eurozone falls back into recession for the 1st time since 2009 as the 17-state economy contracts by 0.1%
[09:30] {ese} the US will have to bring them out of it
01[09:30] {Threei}  haha
01[09:31] {Threei}  and not to make light of it, but this was the stupidest headline in a good while:
01[09:31] {Threei}  (IS) US President Obama, Israel PM both agreed Hamas needed to stop attack on Israel
01[09:32] {Threei}  akin to "Ukraine and Argentina signed peace agreement between Moldova and Mongolia"
01[09:33] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .30 break hl
01[09:33] {Threei}  If holds  .40
01[09:33] {Threei}  two-sided
01[09:35] {Threei}  1:1
01[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: JCP  .70 break
01[09:36] {Threei}  If holds  .75
[09:37] {cipher} meli l .28
01[09:37] {Threei}  FCX 1:2, out
01[09:39] {Threei}  (IS) Hamas said to reject any truce with Israel
01[09:40] {Threei}  Fitch ratings director Riley: Europe must deal with its sovereign debt crisis; should keep Greece in the EMU despite costs- Not expecting a Spain bailout request to come this year; labor market in Spain does not work - Expecting Spain to encounter a long period of painful economic situation - Notes that positive momentum generated during the past few months starts to slip amid political gridlock and the unlikelihood of further help from the euro-zone's central bank
01[09:41] {Threei}  *(CA) CANADA OCT EXISTING HOME SALES M/M: -0.1% V +2.5% PRIOR
[09:41] {nemo} Canada?
[09:41] {nemo} Is that a US protectorate?
01[09:42] {Threei}  you shut up, this is last island of sanity in the sea of overspending
[09:42] {ese} ;lol
[09:42] {nemo} Yeah, Island of Dr. Moreau
01[09:42] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Lacker (hawk, lone FOMC dissenting voter): More bond purchases may risk inflation; effects of stimulus on growth and jobs are less than what is believed- The bigger the Fed balance sheet, the riskier the wind down process will be. Withdrawal process will be uncharted territory. . - Calls the purchase of mortgage backed securities by the Fed is 'inappropriate.' - Cannot continuously buy more securities and increase the balance sheet without risking inflation.
[09:42] {ese} lol
01[09:43] {Threei}  you keep this up, we will allow Quebec to seceed and join USA
01[09:43] {Threei}  that'll show you
[09:44] {cipher} stmp l .15
[09:44] {nemo} yeah, they'll probably link up with Massachusetts.  THey don't call us Massholes for nothing
01[09:44] {Threei}  we will just need to evacuate scottie to BC first
[09:44] {nemo} like those liquid stocks, dont ya' cipher
[09:44] {ese} I'm listening to Warren Buffet............he says things are fine for the US...............he said that just becasue a buch of bumbling fools can't agree right now it won't send the US over the fiscal cliff...........
01[09:44] {Threei}  lol
[09:45] {ese} bunch
01[09:45] {Threei}  Buffet becomes a baffoon
01[09:45] {Threei}  fine?
01[09:45] {Threei}  with 16T debt and 1T annual deficit?
01[09:45] {Threei}  ideology trumps everything...
[09:46] {ese} if he ain't panicing...........i'm not panicing
01[09:46] {Threei}  why would he
[09:46] {Les} Buffet was selling US in August/Sep. talk about two face
[09:46] {nemo} mnst short here looks interesting
01[09:47] {Threei}  he can get 99% haircut and still have more hair than all of us combined
[09:47] {ese} can't disagree with that fact
[09:47] {nemo} Vad...an Armadillo could get a 99% haircut and have more than you
01[09:48] {Threei}  I guess...
[09:48] {ese} he seems like a friendly guy................think i'll pop over for coffee and talk it over with him
01[09:48] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .15 break
01[09:48] {Threei}  If holds  .10
01[09:48] {Threei}  Invalidated
01[09:49] {Threei}  keeping SLW on watch to short into bounce
01[09:49] {Threei}  maybe long scalp first
01[09:52] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .10 break
[09:52] {ese} by the way.......got stopped out of btu yesterday for -.28
01[09:52] {Threei}  If holds  37
[09:53] {nemo} IWM dropped lows Q's about to
01[09:54] {Threei}  crap
01[09:54] {Threei}  just prepared long slw .25 break alert
01[09:54] {Threei}  and it was at .35
[09:56] {ese} Congratulations.............huh.........the top of my Mbbit is say that i've just been given a 1 year free Green Card to work in the US..........under the US equal oppportunity program 50,000 to be given out
01[09:56] {Threei}  cool
[09:56] {ese} nemo.........can i come and work for you?
01[09:56] {Threei}  let's trail FCX to .04, was 1 cent shy of 1:1
[09:56] {ese} i'll feed the rabbit
01[09:56] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .40 break
[09:56] {cipher} out meli -.22
01[09:57] {Threei}  If holds  .50
[09:57] {nemo} weird
[09:58] {ese} me coming to work for you?
[09:58] {nemo} yeah
[09:59] {ese} lol
01[09:59] {Threei}  1:1
[09:59] {cipher} out stmp .29 +.14
01[10:00] {Threei}  ese, I am sorry to say but *(US) NOV PHILADELPHIA FED: -10.7 V 2.0E
01[10:00] {Threei}  tell us again Buffet, how everything's fine
[10:01] {ese} *(US) Q3 MORTGAGE DELINQUENCIES: 7.40% V 7.58% PRIOR; MBA MORTGAGE FORECLOSURES:4.07 % V 4.27% PRIOR - Source TradeTheNews.com
[10:01] {ese} ya but ........at least people can pay for there homes
01[10:01] {Threei}  and this is despite Prices Paid: 27.9 v 19 prior
01[10:01] {Threei}  no ese, we just run out of homes to foreclose
[10:02] {cipher} meli l.41
[10:02] {ese} your a tough nut to crack you are...............
01[10:02] {Threei}  400+K more went on food stamps in ONE MONTH of October
01[10:02] {Threei}  what homes?
[10:02] {ese} L btu .41
01[10:02] {Threei}  look in reality eyes for once
01[10:03] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .40 break
[10:04] {ese} 1/2 ,48 +.08
01[10:04] {Threei}  If holds  .50
[10:04] {ese} .49 sorry
06[10:05] * Les slaps ese with a penny
[10:06] {ese} very funny very funny.........everyones opps
01[10:06] {Threei}  Invalidated
[10:06] {ese} out btu .68
[10:07] {ese} + .26 balance
[10:07] {ese} as i was saying..........everyone wants to be a comedian
01[10:07] {Threei}  including Buffet
01[10:07] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .40 break
[10:08] {ese} am loving this stock...........think cash cow comes to mind
[10:08] {cipher} out meli .94 +.53
01[10:08] {Threei}  If holds  .50
01[10:08] {Threei}  nice one cipher
[10:08] {cipher} thx
[10:10] {cipher} stmp l.54
[10:14] {ese} good one with meli........C...........just looking at that man that was thin
[10:14] {nemo} made twiggy look fat
[10:15] {ese} i'll say
[10:15] {ese} good line
[10:16] {cipher} tna l .40
01[10:17] {Threei} Short Setup: C  .65 break
[10:17] {dino} out yesterdays idcc +.68
01[10:17] {Threei}  nice hold
01[10:18] {Threei}  change C to .70 break
[10:18] {dino} ty, lucky
01[10:18] {Threei}  If holds  .75
[10:18] {ese} and it's still climbing dino
[10:18] {dino} because i sold
[10:18] {ese} lol
01[10:19] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .50 break
[10:19] {ese} man...you and C are the kings of thin
01[10:19] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[10:19] {dino} he's my doppleganger
[10:20] {ese} well................everybodies gotta have one
01[10:20] {Threei}  lol
[10:20] {ese} nah...........should have one
01[10:21] {Threei}  half out LVS
[10:21] {ese} am outta here boyza......catch ya tomorrow
01[10:21] {Threei}  stop to .71
01[10:21] {Threei}  take care ese
[10:21] {ese} cya vad
[10:21] {Les} ciao dude
[10:21] {Will49} bye ese
[10:21] {ese} later les.nemo dino C
[10:21] {ese} will
[10:22] {cipher} out stmp .77 +.23
01[10:22] {Threei}  FCX, trail to .56
01[10:25] {Threei}  C, 1/4 more out
01[10:25] {Threei}  FCX 1:1
01[10:26] {Threei}  mailed the reversal on both
01[10:26] {Threei}  C particularly precise
01[10:27] {Threei}  111 Trades readers, everyone got the e-mail yesterday?
[10:28] {dino} y
[10:28] {Beau} on it now
[10:28] {Les} yes ty
[10:29] {Les} I even managed to unsuscribe myself at the same time
01[10:29] {Threei}  lol
[10:29] {Les} I'm like a dog chasing a car. you put a link and I'll click on it
01[10:29] {Threei}  btw, we tracked down the reason our Sunday Links e-mails weren't reaching some of you
01[10:30] {Threei}  if you still not getting them, let me know pls
[10:33] {dino} crus hl l .25
01[10:36] {Threei}  selling is welcome to resume any time now
01[10:37] {Threei}  (CA) Bank of Canada finds that a financial transaction tax (tobin) implementation worldwide is highly unlikely- Notes that a financial transaction tax would increase volitility and negatively impact growth
[10:37] {dino} finally somebody gets it
01[10:37] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Lacker: weary of using threholds to determine policy and discussing any financial transaction (tobin) taxes
01[10:37] {Threei}  meanwhile Europe implements it full speed
01[10:37] {Threei}  I've never seen a country or union so determined to destroy itself
[10:38] {nemo} well, that means lotsa' financial activity comes this way
01[10:38] {Threei}  unless Obama nods to it here too
01[10:38] {Threei}  but I find it unlikely
[10:38] {Les} when president Barosso is ex-Maoist it makes perfect sense to me Vad
[10:38] {Les} old ideology reborn
[10:39] {nemo} as in Maotse Dung=Stalinist?
[10:39] {Les} yeh
01[10:39] {Threei}  whole EU upper brass consists of former communists
[10:39] {Les} yeh
01[10:39] {Threei}  and there is no really such thing as FORMER communist
[10:39] {nemo} and we're led by an Islamocommunist go figure
[10:39] {nemo} the only good commie is a dead one
01[10:40] {Threei}  they adapt in their appearance, to fit to surroundings
01[10:40] {Threei}  but the core stays the same
[10:40] {nemo} can hear the Navy Captain I used to work for speaking in my head
01[10:40] {Threei}  today's Russian brass is a good example of that
01[10:40] {Threei}  once KGB, always KGB
01[10:41] {Threei}  out C in full
[10:41] {nemo} Once KGB now FSB
[10:42] {nemo} iwm spy long setup setting up
01[10:42] {Threei}  it's truly a wonder that in Canada, of all the countries, conservatives came to power and keep it for 3 elections already
01[10:42] {Threei}  keeping financials more or less in order
01[10:43] {Threei}  not pouring "stimulus" left andf right
01[10:43] {Threei}  and even withdrawing some
01[10:43] {Threei}  no wonder ese hates them either :)
[10:43] {dino} lol
[10:43] {Will49} PM is an economist also
[10:43] {Will49} is that good?
01[10:43] {Threei}  ummm... rarely, lol
[10:44] {nemo} rates right up there with weatherman and politician
01[10:44] {Threei}  but I have a lot of respect for this one
01[10:45] {Threei}  just don't tell anyone will, the'll ostracize me from extremely left Victoria... and I like it here :)
[10:45] {Will49} I'm with you
01[10:45] {Threei}  as long as I don't talk to people
[10:45] {Will49} NDP signs all over Fairfield
[10:45] {Will49} Saw Eliz May yesterday canvassing
[10:46] {Will49} Crossed the street so she wouldn't yap to me
01[10:46] {Threei}  can't believe she is my MP
[10:46] {Les} how rude Will
01[10:46] {Threei}  die already FCX
[10:46] {Will49} I know
01[10:47] {Threei}  1:2
01[10:47] {Threei}  good boy
[10:47] {Will49} She invented rude Les
[10:47] {Will49} She's leader of green Party, right down your alley :)
[10:48] {cipher} stmp l .65
[10:55] {scottie} NOW l .40 ?
[10:56] {scottie} forget it
01[10:56] {Threei}  already did
01[10:57] {Threei}  scottie, you were away while we mader some life changing decisions for you
01[10:57] {Threei}  we evacuate you to BC and sell Quebec to Massachusets
[10:58] {Will49} you can live in Vad's vodka storage room
[10:58] {dino} hl l plce .36
[10:59] {nemo} I'm taking a nap
[10:59] {scottie} I saw that, I've already called the moving company
01[10:59] {Threei}  man of action
[10:59] {scottie} Anything not to live near nemo
01[11:00] {Threei}  I thought that was important factor in getting your nod
[11:00] {scottie} lol
01[11:01] {Threei}  you'll ,like it here... third crop of roses just started blooming
[11:01] {Les} I understand u will
[11:01] {Les} Sierra club, American lawyer. Sounds like a fascist
[11:01] {Will49} You're the oly one Las
[11:01] {Will49} only
01[11:01] {Threei}  lol
[11:02] {Les} well regarding Eliz May. don't know bout rest of your life
[11:02] {Will49} She's a piece of work all right
[11:02] {Les} activist
[11:02] {scottie} In another life, I spent six months in Esquimalt, loved the weather
[11:02] {Les} hate that frikin word
[11:02] {Will49} Navy?
[11:03] {Will49} Scottie
[11:03] {scottie} aye aye sir
01[11:03] {Threei}  wow
01[11:03] {Threei}  respect
[11:03] {Will49} Half of our three-ship navy is based there
01[11:03] {Threei}  hehe
[11:04] {scottie} lol
[11:04] {Will49} Did you terrorize our women on shore leave?
[11:04] {nemo} got big volume on iwm on that bottom
01[11:05] {Threei}  and we do know how to put them to a good use - they help form starting line for the annual sailboat regatta, Swiftsure
[11:05] {scottie} That's where I smoke BC flags for the first time
[11:05] {Will49} :)
[11:05] {scottie} smoked
[11:05] {Will49} You'll fit right in Scottie
[11:06] {Will49} In fact, stay at my place and teach me how to trade
01[11:06] {Threei}  SLW is strangely strong
01[11:06] {Threei}  didn't expect it remain near high while SPY sells
[11:06] {scottie} ok Will, as soon as I learn myself
[11:06] {Les} Euro strengthening
[11:07] {Les} dollar testing support
01[11:07] {Threei}  I'll drop by for a coffee when you two get too comfortable
01[11:07] {Threei}  gotta disrupe that harmony
01[11:07] {Threei}  disrupt
[11:08] {Will49} Coffee and MJ for all
[11:08] {Les} was gonna call you a pussard Scottie, but I don't think that's the right word for navy guys
[11:09] {Les} been a long time since I was in uniform
[11:09] {nemo} perfidious Albion?
[11:09] {Les} you're a pussard nemo however
[11:09] {Will49} Girl Scout uniforms don't count Les
[11:09] {Les} it got me close to the girls will
[11:10] {Will49} oh no....you should get on Dr Phil show
[11:10] {nemo} double bottom on iwm spy and fas
01[11:10] {Threei}  watching CAT
01[11:10] {Threei}  bounce into .40 - .50 zone would be a short setup on .40 recross
01[11:12] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .40 break
01[11:12] {Threei}  If holds  .50
[11:13] {nemo} think we get a vwap run here
[11:13] {nemo} make it a two way....just a thought
01[11:15] {Threei}  CAT says short
01[11:16] {Threei}  1:1
01[11:16] {Threei}  1:2
[11:17] {Will49} Super call
01[11:17] {Threei}  made well in advance too
01[11:18] {Threei}  1:3, out
01[11:18] {Threei}  I have my moments
[11:18] {scottie} +.29 tks Vad
01[11:18] {Threei}  [11:18] {nemo} but they are getting fewer and farther between
01[11:18] {Threei}  yw
[11:19] {nemo} nice Vad
01[11:19] {Threei}  hmmm...
06[11:19] * Threei slants at nemo ascance
[11:20] {robbers} Out CAT, thanks.
01[11:20] {Threei}  yw
[11:21] {Will49} tks Vad, got 1:2 and bailed :(
[11:21] {Will49} need patience
01[11:21] {Threei}  it'll come
01[11:22] {Threei}  you are not used to real bear market yet
01[11:22] {Threei}  it drops... and drops... and drops...
[11:22] {Will49} remember, I don't even buy green bananas
01[11:22] {Threei}  and when it totally looks like reversing, it drops again
[11:24] {Will49} my Scottish ancestry gets in my way
[11:24] {Will49} a peny saved etc
[11:24] {Will49} penny
[11:24] {Will49} working on that
[11:25] {Will49} need to be an abundance guy
[11:26] {Will49} I know Vad...the Taoist Trader book
[11:26] {Will49} As soon as I save enough pennies :)
[11:27] {nemo} and then you come study with me
[11:28] {Will49} graduate school?
01[11:28] {Threei}  meanwhile you can watch nemo giving lecture on Taoism
01[11:28] {Threei}  if he is so kind to share the link
[11:28] {nemo} well, kinda, that was to a bunch of college kids
[11:28] {nemo} it was Taoism lite
[11:28] {nemo} can't scare them
01[11:28] {Threei}  huh?
01[11:29] {Threei}  you must
[11:29] {nemo} camouflage
01[11:29] {Threei}  otherwise they'll go through life fat, drunk and stupid
[11:29] {nemo} most people do
[11:29] {Les} sounds good
[11:29] {nemo} the "herd" of man
[11:30] {nemo} http://ezwp.tv/V6h7dkuR
01[11:31] {Threei}  that was nemo's visual...
01[11:31] {Threei}  this mine: http://goo.gl/KYs92
[11:35] {Les} wow SLW
01[11:35] {Threei}  it's strange today
01[11:35] {Threei}  disconnected from market
[11:36] {scottie} AEP l 41 ?
01[11:37] {Threei}  not really delighted
[11:37] {scottie} ok tks
[11:40] {scottie} cvs l 45 ?
01[11:42] {Threei}  I'd orefer pullback entry on it
01[11:42] {Threei}  from under .90
[11:42] {scottie} ok
[11:46] {Les} tza here?
[11:46] {Les} under .75?
01[11:46] {Threei}  probably... just hard to expect much from it
01[11:50] {Threei}  it seems stinky substance hits the fan
01[11:50] {Threei}  (IS) Air raid sirens being reported to have been heard in Tel Aviv in addition to explosions - press- Rockets said to have hit Tel Aviv, no casualties reported - Follow up: Chatter circulating that Egypt has closed the border with Israel
[11:50] {dino} those idiots are going to start a war
[11:50] {nemo} this is spy gap going back to 8/2
01[11:51] {Threei}  ok, we need ese to come back for a min, to talk about those mortgages:
01[11:51] {Threei}  (US) House Financial Service Commitee Chair Rep Bachus (R-AL): FHA will need Treasury bailout within one month- Reminder: yesterday reports circulated that the FHA was nearing a point at which it could run out of reserves due to rising mortgage deliquencies; may ask for taxpayer money for the first time
[11:52] {dino} funny how they hid that until aftr election
01[11:52] {Threei}  that, and a lot of other things
[11:52] {dino} no kidding
[11:52] {nemo} oh boy:  http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000129595&play=1
[11:53] {nemo} oh shit, don't pay attention to the guy behind the curtain
[11:57] {Les} SELL SELL SELL
[11:57] {nemo} yes Mortimer
[11:57] {Les} remember his mission statement is only to discuss what the serious investors are doing
[12:15] {Les} TZA 19 or bust
01[12:15] {Threei}  not bad
01[12:15] {Threei}  I didn't expect even this
01[12:19] {Threei}  SHOOT FOR THE MOON
01[12:19] {Threei}  Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars. Of course, then your eyeballs will boil and your lungs explode from decompression. But that's what you get for being a damn showoff.
[12:21] {Les} I see Netanyahu has January elections
[12:23] {robbers} Simple solution for Israel vs. Palistine.  Palastinians want a state....give them Mississippi.  We're not using it anyway.
[12:23] {Will49} lol
[12:24] {nemo} this higher low is off the 8/2 gap bottom
01[12:24] {Threei}  bit robbers... do you want ropckets landing in Alabama and Louisiana?
[12:24] {robbers} Sure.
[12:24] {robbers} Especially Alabama.
01[12:25] {Threei}  Tennessee?
01[12:25] {Threei}  Arkansas?
01[12:25] {Threei}  if you say yes, you can have them :)
[12:27] {robbers} I draw the line at sacrificing Alabama.  But they wouldn't fire rockets there anyway, bama doesn't allow Jewish people to live there.
[12:32] {robbers} I'm Jewish and have visited bama, not all that hospitable, but they did allow me to use one of their golf courses for a few hours.  Nice of them.
01[12:32] {Threei}  christmas tree for nemo: http://goo.gl/SeI8Q
01[12:33] {Threei}  and nemo's idea of a good time: http://goo.gl/C3mM8
01[12:36] {Threei}  Les, you out TZA?
[12:36] {Les} never got in it
[12:37] {Les} been wanting to leave for Aikido. Missus finally got home
01[12:46] {Threei}  will, you are the lucjkiest one here
01[12:46] {Threei}  Two early morning cougar sightings today around the Ross Bay Cemetery.
[12:46] {Will49} I'm running outside right now!
01[12:47] {Threei}  that's like 3 min from your place?
[12:47] {Will49} Hope it doesn't eat any of the little old ladies around here
[12:47] {Will49} Yes, one block
[12:48] {Will49} But I do hope it eats the two jack Russell terriers across the street
[12:48] {Will49} they drive me nuts
01[12:48] {Threei}  lol
[12:49] {Will49} I think I'll volunteer to take them for a walk today :)
[12:51] {Will49} scottie..bit of navy trivia about Esquimalt
01[12:51] {Threei} Short Setup: CVS  .80 break
[12:59] {Will49} British Navy set up base there in early 1860s and there are dozens of sea captains burried in Ross Bay cemetary
[13:00] {nemo} want to take tna long here but it would be more out of boredom than conviction
01[13:02] {Threei}  [17:35] {dptl} hey Vad, hopefully come back in the month or so.....say hi to everyone :)
[13:02] {nemo} that when he gets out of detox?
01[13:06] {Threei}  (IS) Israel Defense Min Barak: Hamas earlier rocket attack is considered an escalation and a price will have to be paid
01[13:10] {Threei}  52% View #Petraeus Resignation As Appropriate
01[13:11] {Threei}  maybe but I don't remember MLK, JFK or Bill Clinton resigning
[13:11] {Will49} different world Vad
01[13:14] {Threei}  CVS new low
01[13:14] {Threei}  whole cent lower... etc, you know the routine
[13:15] {Will49} let's hope Bernank doesn't screw this up for us
[13:22] {nemo} yeah, guess I shoulda' taken that boredom trade
01[13:25] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Bernanke: Fed will continue to use policy to boost economic recovery; it is likely that lending has swung too far towards tigher standards- Notes that mortgage lenders tightened standards in 2007 and havent eased off - Sees housing sector improving and adding to growth; a weak housing market can be powerful headwind to an economic recovery - Calls on lenders to rent out their foreclosed homes
[13:34] {dino} lenders should be liquidating their foreclosed homes
[13:35] {Will49} and how does more renting lighten the headwinds?
[13:36] {Will49} a weak housing market is powerful headwind to bank profits
01[13:38] {Threei}  they are just eager to reinflate this thing
01[13:39] {Threei}  instead of rational thinking, which would lead therm to a question:
01[13:39] {Threei}  what is the natural level of demand, without people overextending themselves?
01[13:39] {Threei}  if it reached yet?
01[13:39] {Threei}  if we are under that level, sure, loosen lending standards
01[13:40] {Threei}  if we are above it, we need more tightenting, or at least waiting
[13:41] {Will49} oh but that makes so much sense...what are you thinking?
[13:41] {Will49} or as they say around here, what are you smokin'
[13:50] {nemo} this might be the bottom
01[13:51] {Threei}  for now
[13:51] {dino} until 3 pm lately
[14:16] {Les}  CVS selling off again
01[14:21] {Threei}  and works this time
[14:22] {Les} my second entry. 1st was good for a scalp. I am short .73 here half out
[14:27] {nemo} slb probably now
[14:32] {dino} osis crushed
01[14:40] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .10 break
01[14:41] {Threei}  If holds  22
[14:54] {robbers} Yet another surgical call on FB, nice.
[14:54] {thomcbell} made a sale here on fb thanks Vad
01[14:55] {Threei}  1:2
01[14:55] {Threei}  closed it
01[14:55] {Threei}  yw guys
[14:58] {Will49} tks Vad +.22
01[14:58] {Threei}  :)
[15:02] {robbers} wtg Will.
[15:02] {Will49} tks
[15:03] {Will49} incremental progress every day
[15:05] {thomcbell} nasty tape
01[15:10] {Threei}  beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)
[15:10] {thomcbell} yes
[15:11] {Les} I'd be a lot happier if I'd gotten my TZA entry correct. Took .75 break and then refused to buy VWAP bounce at .65 shortly afterwards...
[15:11] {Les} incredibly ugly tape
[15:11] {Les} :)
[15:12] {dino} dnb drop
[15:12] {dino} i see we are getting the 3 pm drop again
[15:15] {Will49} guess I'll have to help him fix that ping
01[15:17] {Threei}  hehe
01[15:25] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  46 break
01[15:25] {Threei}  If holds  .10
[15:28] {thomcbell} slw looks like a 0.47 break too
01[15:29] {Threei}  targeting 1:3 on GDX
[15:29] {thomcbell} slw 1:1
01[15:29] {Threei}  wtg
01[15:30] {Threei}  1:1 GDX
[15:39] {Les} got a lick of paint to do before bed. c u's tomorrow.
01[15:39] {Threei}  don't sniff it Les
[15:40] {Les} lick, not sniff
01[15:43] {Threei}  lol
01[15:43] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Fisher: Congress has been disgraceful on the fiscal issues; reiterates Fed should not take the "Buzz Lightyear" approach (to infinity and beyond) on purchases- Note the Fed cannot purchase treasury and mortgage debt indefinitely - Comments that legislators in the US have become "parasitic wastrels"
[15:45] {thomcbell} i guess everyone was caught leaning there
[15:45] {thomcbell} nic elittle rally
01[15:47] {Threei}  Congress, punting and getting red in face: You... you... parasitic wastrel enablers!!
01[15:48] {Threei}  panting too
[15:51] {Will49} Tks Vad...interesting day
[15:52] {dino} out plce .86, +.50
01[15:53] {Threei}  wtg
01[15:53] {Threei}  ok guys, thank you
01[15:53] {Threei}  have a great evening
01[15:53] {Threei}  see you tomorrow

Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Nov 14 2012

Being a trader means, among other things, being agnostic to the direction. Don't tie yourself into the idea of short or long only, don't love or hate the stock. It goes up and it goes down, as sure as night follows the day which follows the night. Be a Taoist, don't put labels on things and don't lock yourself in firm opinion - there are always things that you don't know.

How does it relate to his particular trade? Well, I posted quite a few FB shorts in the past, and expressed fairly skeptical feelings about the stock. But when I saw two days ago shorting frenzy on many discussion boards claiming that with huge lockup expiration it was the "easiest short of the century," I knew I got my long play. One of the trades we did is below, running comments on the chart.


Other than that, nice strong day with many winners.


Session Time: Wed Nov 14 00:00:00 2012
[09:11] {dino} gm
01[09:11] {Threei}  dino :)
01[09:14] {Threei}  5th year in a row of 1+T deficit
[09:16] {ese} morning
[09:16] {Beau} good morning
01[09:16] {Threei}  ese, beau :)
[09:16] {ese} vad B
01[09:17] {Threei}  beau... sorry to say but even CBO agrees with me now... their projection for 2016 is exactly 20T debt is
[09:17] {dino} i'm at 21t
[09:17] {ese} am long btu .45 from yesterday.........logged on to the market for a few minutes before i had to go
01[09:18] {Threei}  slightly in the money, ese
[09:18] {ese} yes
[09:18] {Les} morning
01[09:18] {Threei}  kes :)
[09:18] {Will49} Good morning!
01[09:18] {Threei}  will :)
[09:19] {Les} Kes... I like it
[09:19] {ese} was actually up +.30 around 3pm.............left it only to find it had tanked along with the mrkt in the last 40 min......sheesh
01[09:19] {Threei}  they need to move l and k farther from each other on keyboard
[09:20] {Les} you need to eat less bacon
[09:20] {ese} lol
[09:20] {ese} ouch
01[09:20] {Threei}  you mean kess bacon?
[09:20] {ese} egggzactilly
[09:21] {scottie} good morning
01[09:21] {Threei}  scottie :)
01[09:21] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/CtOBB
[09:23] {thomcbell} FB resilient
01[09:23] {Threei}  on watch for long
[09:28] {cipher} gm
01[09:28] {Threei}  cipher :)
[09:29] {cipher} FB  l.00
[09:29] {cipher} out .25
[09:30] {cipher} thx for heads up vad
01[09:30] {Threei}  :)
01[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .50 break hl
01[09:31] {Threei}  late, disregard
01[09:31] {Threei}  wow FB
[09:32] {Les} LOL poor bears
[09:32] {cipher} out fcx +.12 thx
01[09:33] {Threei}  cipher not fooling around this morning
[09:33] {cipher} 4 trades on FB so far
[09:33] {cipher} all winers
[09:33] {cipher} long/short
[09:33] {cipher} too fast to post
01[09:34] {Threei} Short Setup: DOW  .75 break
01[09:34] {Threei}  If holds  .85
01[09:35] {Threei}  1:1
[09:36] {cipher} DOW +.10
[09:37] {cipher} fb s.20
[09:37] {cipher} cov .07 +.13
[09:39] {dino} stmp hl l .18
[09:39] {nemo} mos could be short here
[09:39] {nemo} nope
[09:40] {cipher} stmp l .87
[09:41] {dino} 07 red
[09:41] {nemo} what up with anf?
01[09:42] {Threei}  reported, conf call in progress
01[09:43] {Threei}  Abercrombie & Fitch Co Reports Q3 $0.87 v $0.60e, R$1.17B v $1.11Be- Guides Q4 SSS "mid single digit decrease" - Guides FY12 EPS $2.85-3.00 v $2.49e, (prior $2.50-2.75, SSS -10% on 15th Aug)
[09:43] {nemo} tempted to short but gonna be game playing in that stock today
[09:44] {dino} stmp stop -.35
[09:44] {cipher} stmp stop -.28
[09:45] {cipher} stmp l .21
06[09:46] * nemo "don't short ANF"
01[09:47] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .45 break hl
01[09:47] {Threei}  If holds  .35
[09:47] {cipher} out 1/2 stmp .68 +.47
[09:47] {nemo} amazing that move on the lockup
01[09:48] {Threei}  come on
01[09:48] {Threei}  we talk about it for 3 days
01[09:48] {Threei}  clear trap for bears
[09:48] {nemo} yeah, but with all that supply still amazing
01[09:48] {Threei}  stocktwits all buzzed about the easiest short of the century
[09:48] {Les} perhaps why it wawsn't dropping
01[09:48] {Threei}  yeah right
01[09:49] {Threei}  nothing is ever that easy
01[09:49] {Threei}  1:2 FB
[09:49] {scottie} FB + .20 tks Vad
01[09:49] {Threei}  :)
[09:49] {scottie} in 57 seconds :)
01[09:49] {Threei}  just as we like it
01[09:50] {Threei}  1:3, out
[09:51] {nemo} o.k. anf dropped below 40 watching for rebid and drop
[09:51] {nemo} in .98
[09:51] {nemo} stop to .10
[09:51] {nemo} partial . 72
[09:52] {nemo} stop to  whole
01[09:52] {Threei}  too soon FB
[09:52] {nemo} think ANF has potential to 38.40
01[09:52] {Threei}  it won't quit until last of those "easiest short" traders is finished
[09:54] {dino} stmp hl l .25
[09:56] {scottie} DOW +.18, Vad you're on fire
[09:56] {nemo} .85 a level in ANF
01[09:56] {Threei}  ain't I always after couple losing days
01[09:57] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .85 break
01[09:57] {Threei}  hl of course
01[09:57] {Threei}  If holds  22
01[09:58] {Threei}  trail to .95
[09:58] {nemo} sheesh anf lousy scalp
01[09:58] {Threei}  holding too well
01[09:59] {Threei}  if this is valid double top, it should keep under .95
[09:59] {cipher} stmp l.87
[09:59] {nemo} if it breaks 22 it'll hit .30 before you can get out
01[10:00] {Threei}  very likely
[10:00] {nemo} but looks good
[10:00] {nemo} unfortunately market looks bottomish here
01[10:00] {Threei}  doesn't matter
01[10:00] {Threei}  FB is in its own word
01[10:00] {Threei}  world
01[10:00] {Threei}  (US) SEPT BUSINESS INVENTORIES: 0.7% V 0.6%E
[10:00] {nemo} more than likely but I don't like when the tide comes in on a short
[10:01] {thomcbell} many times the actual FBN holders dont have clearance to sell the day the restriction comes off
[10:01] {thomcbell} FB
[10:01] {dino} idcc drop
[10:01] {dino} hl l .96
01[10:01] {Threei}  ok FB
01[10:01] {Threei}  it's time
01[10:04] {Threei}  meh
[10:05] {thomcbell} time for what?
01[10:05] {Threei}  it passed anyway :)
[10:06] {dino} out idcc .26, +.30
01[10:06] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .90 break hl
01[10:06] {Threei}  If holds  83
01[10:07] {Threei}  SPY bounce...
01[10:07] {Threei}  FB rinse... bastard
[10:09] {nemo} mos
01[10:13] {Threei} Long Setup:  CSCO  .95 break
01[10:15] {Threei}  If holds  .85  of course
01[10:17] {Threei}  wow'
01[10:17] {Threei}  what was that
[10:17] {nemo} aapl
[10:24] {cipher} stmp trying
[10:24] {dino} moves in .30 trades
[10:26] {scottie} csco 2 sided ?
01[10:26] {Threei}  looked that was for a muin... not sure now
[10:26] {nemo} spy testing swing lows
01[10:26] {Threei}  SPY is bounce-ready IMO
01[10:27] {Threei} Long Setup:  TNA  .80 break
01[10:27] {Threei}  hl
01[10:27] {Threei}  If holds  .70
01[10:27] {Threei}  CSCO invalidated
01[10:28] {Threei}  ditto TNA
[10:29] {dino} idcc odd, raises and drops
01[10:30] {Threei}  lately, I'd consider odd if it went up after raising :)
[10:30] {dino} yeah, seems that way
[10:31] {dino} also, short the gap ups
01[10:31] {Threei}  (US) Senator Majority Leader Reid (D-NV) Confirms attempts will be made in the Senate to change the Filibuster rules
[10:37] {scottie} EXC s .65 ?
[10:37] {dino} idcc hl l .03
01[10:37] {Threei}  reasons behind the selling: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49792979
[10:37] {thomcbell} wow look at these gold and silver names
01[10:37] {Threei}  I think so EXC
01[10:37] {Threei}  daily is getting a bit overstretched though
[10:40] {scottie} in .65
[10:46] {nemo} yeah, BLack Wedensday
[10:47] {thomcbell} long small slw 38.01
01[10:48] {Threei} Long Setup:  GLD  .05 break hl
01[10:48] {Threei}  If holds  .95
01[10:52] {Threei}  1:1
01[10:53] {Threei}  here comes EXC
[10:53] {scottie} exc half out
[10:54] {nemo} When Black Wednesday comes...
01[10:56] {Threei}  mama mia... by 2020, USG will be spending on DEBT INTEREST alone more annually than total combined budgets of China, Britain, France, Russia, Japan, Germany, Saudi Arabia, India, Italy, South Korea, Brasil, Canada, Australia, Spain, Turkey and Israel
01[10:57] {Threei}  I don't know why they didn't throw in Burkina Faso for a good measure
[11:05] {thomcbell} target on slw is 38.50 on my small shares
[11:06] {scottie} MWE s .40 ?
[11:06] {scottie} .00 sorry
01[11:08] {Threei}  not sure... tough call
01[11:08] {Threei}  51/49
[11:08] {scottie} ok
[11:09] {thomcbell} long setup gm 24.30 break if holding 24.30
[11:09] {thomcbell} 24.23
[11:09] {thomcbell} rater
[11:09] {thomcbell} rather
[11:11] {thomcbell} gm invalidated
[11:11] {thomcbell} still watching it for an entry
[11:14] {thomcbell} almost did a vad on it and switched to 24.25 entry but
01[11:16] {Threei}  hehe
01[11:20] {Threei}  Overnight there were reports that President Obama would call for $1.6T in additional tax revenue over the next 10 years, which is well above his prior positions and the GOP stance, however analysts say this represents merely a high initial bargaining position. Some Republican aides say that there could compromise related to about $1T in new tax revenues (although this would likely involve deductions and loopholes rather than raising tax rates). Obama is expected to hold a press conference later today to outline his position.
[11:23] {dino} isn't the fiscal cliff only 800 billion in new taxes?
01[11:24] {Threei}  don't remember... I had a full breakdown somewhere
01[11:24] {Threei}  discal cliff however is a combination of a lot of tax increases and spending cuts
01[11:24] {Threei}  together guaranteeing immediate recession
01[11:26] {Threei}  here it is: http://macroblog.typepad.com/files/Appendix_121113.html
01[11:35] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .40 break
01[11:36] {Threei}  If holds  .30
01[11:36] {Threei}  aggressive entry for .50
01[11:38] {Threei}  target 1:4
[11:38] {scottie} exc out +.20
01[11:38] {Threei}  wtg
[11:38] {scottie} ty
01[11:40] {Threei}  come one FB, squeeze'em
01[11:40] {Threei}  just imagine the pain .50 break would deliver
01[11:41] {Threei}  nemo's licking his chops just thinking of all that pain
01[11:41] {Threei}  1:1
01[11:42] {Threei}  1:2
[11:45] {Beau} .6 thx vaad
01[11:45] {Threei}  :)
[11:45] {Beau} .16
[11:45] {thomcbell} sold 1/2 slw 38.40
01[11:46] {Threei}  wtg
[11:46] {Beau} can't add actually .18
01[11:46] {Threei}  hehe
01[11:47] {Threei}  I can erelate... fingers on two hands is good, but when it comes to toes, math becomes complicated
[11:48] {thomcbell} good job on FB today Vad
[11:48] {Beau} that's the problem--have shoes on
01[11:48] {Threei}  ty
[11:48] {thomcbell} too bad u didnt chang eit to 21.99 entry after it went back under the figure - i know thats what you were thinking
01[11:49] {Threei}  yeah, it's always a fight between discipline and conviction
01[11:54] {Threei}  each FB pause or slowdown or pullback work as encouragement for bears and end up being a trap
[11:57] {dino} tcap drop
01[11:59] {Threei}  1:3
[12:00] {scottie} fb +.29 tks Vad
01[12:00] {Threei}  yw
[12:00] {Will49} tks Vad 1:2
[12:00] {Will49} took the conservative .50 call
01[12:00] {Threei}  no one has patience for final target...
01[12:01] {Threei}  I am all alone...
01[12:01] {Threei}  sniff sniff
[12:01] {Will49} we'll learn :)
01[12:01] {Threei}  and even dino with his 12-pack is not going to drop by before 2016
[12:09] {dino} nope
[12:11] {dino} bidu more blood
[12:14] {dino} lnkd drop
[12:14] {dino} sm l .01
[12:15] {dino} out lnkd .71, +.70
[12:16] {Will49} neat
[12:16] {dino} way too soon
01[12:16] {Threei}  nice anyway
[12:17] {dino} ty
[12:18] {dino} idcc to .41
[12:20] {dino} out idcc +.38
01[12:23] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/ZyL1k
[12:32] {dino} idcc break .53 hl l
01[12:33] {Threei}  Palestinian President Abbas calls for urgent Arab League meeting over Israel's strikes on Gaza
01[12:33] {Threei}  he didn't call anyone about 100+ rickets landing in Israel over last 3 days?
01[12:34] {Threei}  rockets
01[12:34] {Threei}  LNKD...
01[12:38] {Threei}  thought of short play on it but volatility is hard to manage
[12:44] {dino} tcap hl l .50 gappy
[12:46] {nemo} http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/14/israeli-military-releases-video-of-gaza-strike-on-hamas-leader/
[12:59] {scottie} TAP s 40 ?
[12:59] {scottie} stop .05 ?
[13:00] {scottie} in .99
01[13:00] {Threei}  yes
01[13:00] {Threei}  lol
[13:01] {scottie} I anticipated your approval, lol
01[13:04] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  38 break
01[13:04] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[13:13] {Will49} wish I had a Coors to enjoy the wait for this one scottie
[13:13] {nemo} panther piss
[13:13] {Will49} Ok Molson then
[13:13] {Will49} Molson Canadian
[13:14] {nemo} skunk piss
[13:14] {scottie} Will require patience I think
[13:14] {Will49} lol
[13:14] {Will49} Moose piss
[13:14] {nemo} nah, I've been around mooses
[13:14] {Will49} Vad doesn't think we have any
[13:14] {Will49} patience
01[13:14] {Threei}  lol, I thought mooses
[13:15] {scottie} I'm learning patience too
01[13:15] {Threei}  tried tp remember when I ever expressed an opinion on that
[13:15] {Will49} nemo seems to have ataste for moose piss
[13:16] {scottie} might be faster than I thought
[13:16] {nemo} no, just familarity
[13:21] {dino} tcap hl l .84 last try
01[13:25] {Threei}  1:1
[13:26] {scottie} out tap
[13:31] {thomcbell} fb very impressive
[13:34] {nemo} obama start speaking?
01[13:34] {Threei}  yes
[13:34] {nemo} so that was the drop that ruined my scalp
[13:34] {nemo} Is he announcing the formation of Comsamol
01[13:35] {Threei}  Comsomol
[13:35] {nemo} yeah, sorry
[13:36] {Will49} market likee
[13:37] {Will49} sort of
[13:38] {nemo} market likeee fb
01[13:46] {Threei}  (US) President Obama: We face a clear deadline to solve budget and tax issues, we must work together to solve the problem, I am open to compromise and new ideas- Focus must be on jobs and economic growth.
01[13:46] {Threei}  - Reiterates that the Congress shouldnt hold the majority of the country 'hostage' while debates continue on tax breaks for the wealthy
01[13:46] {Threei}  - Reiterates calls to extend Bush tax cuts on those earning $250K or less
01[13:46] {Threei}  - Extension of Bush tax cuts for the wealthy last year was a 'one time proposition'; ending the tax cuts for the wealthy would end half of the fiscal cliff
01[13:46] {Threei}  - Notes that entitlement costs should be addressed; tax reform is necessary to make it more efficient
01[13:46] {Threei}  - Will not accept extending Bush tax cuts for the wealthy in exchange for closing loopholes
[13:48] {Les} fb
01[13:49] {Threei}  - Democrats are looking for $4.0T in deficit reductions over ten years, including the nearly $1.0T already accomplished.
01[13:49] {Threei}  huh?
01[13:49] {Threei}  $1.0T already accomplished?
[13:50] {nemo} we have to secure our borders....right
01[13:50] {Threei}  (US) Preview: Minutes of the Oct 24 FOMC meeting due out at 14:00ET- The FOMC had a low key meeting in October after the Fed went all in with an open ended QE3 program at the September meeting. - Today's minutes may show some discussion of how the Fed will address the end of Operation Twist at the end of 2012. At the December meeting, the Fed must decide if it will further extend Twist or if it will reset the rate of QE3 program to about double its current pace in order to make up for absence of the Twist operations. Members likely discussed these options at the Oct meeting, including how to craft the announcements of future revisions in the pace of QE3 purchases. - There may also be some more discussion of setting policy triggers as part of a new communication strategy. These might include policy triggered by higher inflation or lower unemployment rates. Notably, Fed Vice Chair Janet Yellen (seen as one potential successor to Chairman Bernanke) said yesterday that she supports having policy triggers for inflation and employment to help public adjust expectations.
[13:54] {dino} lxu drop
01[13:55] {Threei}  LXU LSB Industries Halted: Reports that its chemical plant in Cherokee, Alabama suffered damage from pipe rupture and will limit production until repaired
[13:55] {dino} ty
[13:59] {nemo} bidu at vwap
[14:02] {cc_8} LB Industries Says Chemical Damage at Cherokee, Alabama Facility; Sees Prelim Est 3-5M Outage at Plant; Insurance Has $2.5M Deductible; No Serious Injuries or Environmental EffectPosted on: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 1:46pmLSB Industries, Inc. (the “Company”) (NYSE: LXU) today announced that the . facility of its subsidiary, Cherokee Nitrogen Company
01[14:02] {Threei}  MINUTES OF THE OCT 24 FOMC MEETING:POLICY MAKERS THOUGH QE3 CREATED MARKED EASING IN FINANCIAL CONDITIONS; TWO OFFICIALS WORRIED EASING MAY HURT INFLATION EXPECTATIONS
01[14:02] {Threei}  - Some officials did question the use of asset purchases
01[14:02] {Threei}  - Staff revisesd GDP forecast higher
[14:02] {thomcbell} truly amazing fb
01[14:06] {Threei}  squeeze... squeezes till it hurts
01[14:06] {Threei}  then squeezes beyond hurt
01[14:06] {Threei}  and when it can't hurt any more, it squeezes a little more before letting go
[14:07] {Les} went short .93 stopped -.04 should have flipped long
[14:10] {dino} tea spike
01[14:11] {Threei}  Hamas leader calls on Arab states, especially Egypt, to stop 'barbaric' Israeli assault
01[14:11] {Threei}  are they f*** kidding?
[14:14] {Will49} sabres are a rattlin'
01[14:16] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .10 break
01[14:16] {Threei}  If holds  22
01[14:17] {Threei}  trail to .04
01[14:18] {Threei}  market is really weak, and this late in the run FB starts reacting on it
[14:19] {scottie} gotta go, see you all tomorrow
[14:20] {dino} s/p -7% since election
[14:20] {Will49} take care scottie
01[14:20] {Threei}  see you tomorrow scottie
[14:20] {Les} ciao scottie
01[14:20] {Threei}  and I don't think it's done, dino
[14:20] {scottie} will, vad, les :)
[14:23] {thomcbell} nice one again fb
[14:26] {dino} every speece he gives kills the market
01[14:26] {Threei}  (IS) Egypt is said to have withdrawn its ambassador to Israel due to Gaza strikes
[14:27] {dino} uh oh
01[14:27] {Threei}  good job on foreign policy, turning long time ally into problem, in the most unstable region on a planet
01[14:28] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .60 break
01[14:29] {Threei}  Invalidated
01[14:29] {Threei}  for now
[14:30] {dino} hamas "isreal has opened gates of hell"
01[14:30] {Threei}  valid again
01[14:31] {Threei}  by answering to barrage of rockets... yup
[14:31] {dino} i don't blame israel, they have been getting tagged for decades
[14:32] {nemo} centuries
[14:32] {nemo} there was that little slavery thing in egypt
[14:32] {nemo} way back when
01[14:33] {Threei}  invalidated
[14:33] {cc_8} Tucows Jumps After Reporting EarningsPosted on: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 2:21pmShares of Tucows (NYSE: TCX) rallied over 24 percent on Wednesday after the company reported strong results in the fourth quarter. .
[14:33] {cc_8} Tucows Jumps After Reporting EarningsPosted on: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 2:21pmShares of Tucows (NYSE: TCX) rallied over 24 percent on Wednesday after the company reported strong results in the fourth quarter. .
01[14:34] {Threei}  Egypt president orders UN representative to call for emergency security council meeting over Israel Gaza strikes
01[14:35] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  22 break
[14:35] {Les} FB's a bubble buster
[14:35] {Les} vwap at 21.50
[14:36] {nemo} mos too
[14:37] {Les} shorted FB .22 stopped .17 bastard won't die on me
[14:38] {Les} another 15 mins maybe
[14:41] {nemo} o.k. iwm coming into MS2 at .62 spy coming into price support at .57 finnies in the next .06 cents or so
01[14:41] {Threei}  SLW
01[14:41] {Threei}  valid again
[14:41] {nemo} as well as monthly support on the finnies here
[14:42] {nemo} wow, this is ugly
01[14:42] {Threei}  beauty in the eye of the beholder
[14:42] {nemo} spy and iwm are down equal $ amounts
01[14:42] {Threei}  to me, this is beautiful
[14:43] {nemo} well yeah, in a dark sorta way
01[14:47] {Threei}  new low SLW
01[14:47] {Threei}  1 cent lower than old low
01[14:48] {Threei}  and another
01[14:48] {Threei}  1:1 baby
[14:50] {robbers} Vad gets the "like" button on SLW as well as FB.
01[14:50] {Threei}  lol
[14:50] {nemo} Vad?  you thinking "Cascade?"
01[14:50] {Threei}  I do
01[14:51] {Threei}  OK, how on gods green earth someone gets on realitytrader site searching for "kypros minotautrus"???
[14:51] {thomcbell} on what slw or market?
01[14:51] {Threei}  market
01[14:51] {Threei}  but SLW won't be immune
01[14:52] {Threei}  and who spells minotaurus like that?
[14:52] {nemo} wow, long setup
[14:52] {nemo} do I believe it?
01[14:52] {Threei}  meh
01[14:52] {Threei}  I don't
01[14:52] {Threei}  this is trap
[14:52] {nemo} I think the SPY has given up the 200 SMA
[14:53] {nemo} yeah, spy volume not convincing
[14:53] {robbers} Did they also search for Burkina Faso?
01[14:54] {Threei}  rofl
01[14:54] {Threei}  omg
01[14:55] {Threei}  26 Jun 2012 � [10:43] {Threei} (CY) ECB Cyprus Govt bonds now ineligible as collateral- Says Eurosystem will ensure stable funding of Cyprus banks - Cyprus banks will have to replace collateral
01[14:55] {Threei}  [10:44] {Threei} what can they replace it with, labyrunth and minotautrus?
01[14:56] {Threei}  1:2 SLWQ
01[14:56] {Threei}  me out
[14:57] {cc_8} Hewlett-Packard Wants to Sell 40 Million Notebooks in 2013Posted on: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 1:07pm  Hewlett-Packard (NYSE: HPQ) has high hopes for the year ahead. According to DigiTimes, the company wants to ship 40 million notebooks in 2013 -- a 25 percent increase from 2012. .
[14:57] {nemo} O.K. that's weird...
[14:58] {nemo} Bunny is sitting over  by the bookcase
[14:58] {dino} and i want couple million bucks
[14:58] {nemo} So I go over and say "hi"
[14:58] {nemo} I notice that the apple core I threw over there is missing
[14:58] {nemo} So in a stupid little kid voice I ask bunny if she ate it already
[14:59] {nemo} She sticks her head behind her little tent and pulls the apple core out so I can see it
[14:59] {nemo} I'm not even on any drugs
01[15:00] {Threei}  lol
[15:00] {dino} out tcap .45, +.61
[15:00] {Les} I'm calling 911 as we speak
01[15:00] {Threei}  nemo, say no to vodka mixed with sleep aid
01[15:00] {Threei}  or at least add laxative...
[15:00] {nemo} ?
[15:01] {nemo} oh, have bad memories of mannitol
[15:01] {Les} what chart pattern is that forming on FB?
[15:01] {Les} bull flag?
[15:01] {Les} pennant?
[15:01] {nemo} if we don't get volume coming in soon, this has fire drill written all over it
01[15:02] {Threei}  triangle?
[15:02] {Les} ok
[15:02] {nemo} uterus
[15:02] {Les} anus
[15:02] {nemo} here we go
[15:02] {Les} i can play stupid too nemo
[15:02] {nemo} yes but not in a sesquipadalian manner
[15:02] {Les} oh piss off
01[15:04] {Threei}  awww... 1:3
[15:06] {nemo} anf hit fib extension
[15:06] {dino} s/p gap 133
[15:06] {dino} 1338
01[15:06] {Threei}  1:4... grrrrr
[15:07] {nemo} major volume support 135.60 ish
01[15:07] {Threei}  1:5... nemo, I need a gun
[15:07] {nemo} o.k. this is serious volume
[15:09] {nemo} they're trying to hold it here
[15:10] {nemo} iwm at s3 spy at s2
01[15:11] {Threei}  1:7
01[15:11] {Threei}  nemo... how's that gun coming?
[15:11] {dino} wow tea
[15:11] {nemo} open your mouth
[15:11] {Will49} stop looking at it Vad
[15:12] {nemo} Vad likes pain and suffering
[15:12] {thomcbell} long setup slw 37.01 break if holding 36.89
[15:12] {Will49} Vad, is this an example of the patience you talked about earlier?
01[15:13] {Threei}  it would be if I held it
[15:13] {Will49} :)
[15:14] {thomcbell} target is 37.40on slw
[15:14] {thomcbell} small position anyway
[15:14] {nemo} o.k. hold your nose and buy...not
[15:16] {nemo} we're 130% of SPY's ATR
[15:17] {nemo} market dysentary coming
[15:17] {thomcbell} out slw
[15:18] {nemo} Oh, wouldn't it be great to wake up to "limit down" for Auld Lang Syne
[15:18] {nemo} finnies through volume support
[15:20] {dino} ATR?
[15:20] {nemo} average true range
[15:20] {dino} ty
[15:20] {nemo} bull bohica today
01[15:23] {Threei}  full dollar
[15:24] {nemo} o.k. things slowing down see if they throw a brick through 136
[15:26] {nemo} 135.97 is MS2/WS1
[15:29] {nemo} ANF amazing in this tape
[15:31] {dino} crus posititve
[15:31] {dino} fio holds well
[15:31] {nemo} ntap lxk
[15:32] {dino} clf not bad
[15:34] {dino} kss pos
[15:42] {nemo} finnies through their 200 SMA
[15:53] {Will49} Good day Vad, tks
01[15:53] {Threei}  :)
01[15:56] {Threei}  thank you all
01[15:56] {Threei}  have a good evening
01[15:57] {Threei}  see you tomorrow for another selloff

Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Nov 13 21012

Slightly positive but still not very happy with market read over last few days. Getting the direction mostly right but timing on entries is off. There were a few quite good ones today though.

Session Time: Tue Nov 13 00:00:00 2012
[08:44] {dino} gm
01[08:48] {Threei}  morning dino
[09:01] {scottie} good morning
01[09:01] {Threei}  scottie :)
[09:01] {_traderxxx} good morning
01[09:02] {Threei}  traderxx :)
[09:06] {nemo} gap down day...yahoo
01[09:08] {Threei}  mr. Lipton quickly becomes my favorite:
01[09:08] {Threei}  (EU) IMF's Lipton: Eurozone uncertainty is weighing on markets- Greece has made heroic effort - Ireland and Portugal have both complied well but still face issues
01[09:09] {Threei}  47% Fear Government Won�t Do Enough to Help Economy
[09:17] {Beau} good morning
01[09:17] {Threei}  beau :)
[09:18] {nemo} mmmhhhh...bottom falling out today?
01[09:18] {Threei}  so far, looks that way
[09:18] {Les} really nemo you need to talk pottie with us?
06[09:19] * nemo slaps his forhead in frustration
06[09:19] * nemo thinks, "Frickin' musicians!!"
01[09:20] {Threei}  les is musician?
[09:20] {nemo} oh jeez...back to bed, see what happens when I don't drink
[09:20] {Will49} gm
[09:21] {nemo} Funny was thinking to myself ese has become Les
01[09:21] {Threei}  will :)
01[09:24] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/qP7Qn
[09:24] {cipher} gm
01[09:25] {Threei}  cipher :)
01[09:25] {Threei}  HPQ, yesterday's low is .30
01[09:26] {Threei}  if gives us some consolidation and breakdown, it's a ride down
01[09:29] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .15 break hl
01[09:29] {Threei}  If holds  .25 
[09:30] {nemo} might test 200 this morning
[09:30] {nemo} iwm in serious volume vacuum
[09:30] {nemo} spy below volume support
[09:31] {nemo}  Qs coming in to volume support
[09:31] {nemo} HD ripping
01[09:32] {Threei} Short Setup: HPQ  .30 break
01[09:32] {Threei}  If holds  .40 
01[09:33] {Threei}  trail FCX to .21
01[09:33] {Threei}  meh
01[09:34] {Threei}  couple cents to 1:1
01[09:35] {Threei}  HPQ is not a scalp
01[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: JCP  .80 break
[09:36] {nemo} inflextion point hd
01[09:36] {Threei}  If holds  .90 
01[09:36] {Threei}  1:1
[09:37] {scottie} of course, got fcx and missed jcp :(
01[09:38] {Threei}  let's install moratorium i=on frown faces in first 30 min
[09:38] {nemo} gs strenthening careful on jcp
[09:38] {scottie} :)
[09:39] {Les} didn't get all m y shares covered on HPQ at .20
[09:39] {Les} shares put in for order
[09:39] {nemo} Odds are spy fights it's way back to the 200 at 138.28
[09:40] {nemo} gs still strenthening as are finnies overall
01[09:40] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  43 break
[09:40] {Les} I see FAS in your shaded no mans land nemo
01[09:40] {Threei}  If holds  .10 
[09:40] {nemo} that's vacuum area
[09:41] {nemo} light blue=vacuum  light red=heavy volume area
[09:42] {Les} k ty
01[09:42] {Threei}  no go
[09:43] {dino} crus gap fill aug
01[09:43] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .90 break hl
01[09:43] {Threei}  If holds  .80 
[09:44] {dino} crus hl l .60
01[09:44] {Threei}  1:1
[09:45] {nemo} longs safe until 138.28 on spy
[09:45] {nemo} imo
[09:45] {nemo} imho
[09:46] {nemo} this drop below the 200 had the bears salivating...so an application of a 60 grit closed fist glove
[09:47] {Les} yeh
[09:48] {dino} fwlt hl l .35
[09:49] {dino} trox hl l .50
[09:49] {scottie} cat +.19 tks :)
01[09:49] {Threei}  :)
[09:49] {dino} gj
[09:50] {robbers} wtg
[09:50] {nemo} careful on entries here, we touched the 200 and filled the gap
01[09:50] {Threei} Short Setup: HD  .10 break
01[09:50] {Threei}  hl
01[09:50] {Threei}  If holds  .20 
[09:52] {dino} out trox .80, +.30
01[09:52] {Threei}  wtg
01[09:53] {Threei}  rinse
[09:53] {nemo} hey cipher, watch 51.50 level KORS
[09:54] {cipher} K
01[09:54] {Threei}  &^$#)(&*
[09:54] {nemo} wow, spelling really off on that one
[09:54] {nemo} it's"  (*&^$&&!!!
[09:55] {Les} s hd .05 v small shares
[09:55] {dino} wpz hl l .92
[09:57] {Les} stopped -.15
01[10:00] {Threei}  A theater in Spain is avoiding higher taxes on theater tickets by selling carrots for $16 apiece with a free ticket
[10:00] {nemo} Les, you shorted off of the high, not the lower high on a veeeerrrrry strong stock.  It hadn't shown you it was done
[10:01] {Les} yes saw that
01[10:01] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .15 break
[10:01] {scottie} AGNC s .50 ?
[10:01] {nemo} Good thing you weren't the point man when you were in the military
01[10:01] {Threei}  If holds  .25 
01[10:01] {Threei}  AGNC, looks right
[10:02] {Les} I suspect HD might be afternoon short
[10:02] {dino} out wpz ,22, +.30
[10:02] {cipher} kors s .55
01[10:04] {Threei}  trail LVS to .21
01[10:05] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .70 break
[10:05] {cipher} cov 1/2 kors .10 +.45
01[10:05] {Threei}  Invalidated  
[10:05] {cipher} cov rest kors .01 +.54 thx nemo
01[10:05] {Threei}  good one
01[10:07] {Threei}  (US) Moody's issues commentary on 'fiscal cliff'; will wait to make a decision on US sovereign rating if the fiscal cliff is triggered- Would likely not wait until after 2013 to resolve the "Negative" outlook on the US (current rating at AAA; outlook Negative) - US cannot grow itself out of the current deficit issues - Deal on fiscal cliff must show that debt will be a downward trajectory - Expecting a deal to be reached at some point in 2013
01[10:09] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIG  .80 break hl
01[10:09] {Threei}  If holds  .70 
01[10:11] {Threei}  (EU) European Parliament may reportedly end the talks on a 2013 budget without a deal - financial press
01[10:11] {Threei}  who needs budgets
01[10:11] {Threei}  US lives without them for 4 years
[10:12] {nemo} indexes moving but not much in persistence in stocks
01[10:13] {Threei}  (US) Chamber of Commerce: Washington is 'playing with fire' through allowing talks on fiscal cliff to drag
01[10:14] {Threei}  Washington: Chamber of Commerce chairman is reassigned to Syria
[10:14] {Les} lol
01[10:15] {Threei}  RIG 1:1
01[10:21] {Threei}  watching FB for long
01[10:24] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .90 break
01[10:25] {Threei}  If holds  .85 
01[10:26] {Threei}  half out .99
01[10:27] {Threei}  stop to .89
01[10:30] {Threei}  scalpers win
01[10:33] {Threei} Short Setup: HD  .90 break
01[10:33] {Threei}  hl
01[10:33] {Threei}  If holds  64 
01[10:35] {Threei}  not yet
[10:38] {scottie} rig +.20 tks vad
[10:40] {Will49} what does "not yet" mean?
01[10:40] {Threei}  not ready to drop yet?
01[10:40] {Threei}  yw scottie, you are a patient one
[10:41] {scottie} stopped breathing for 25 minutes
01[10:41] {Threei}  how's that blue look?
[10:42] {scottie} slowly getting back to normal now
01[10:42] {Threei}  lol
[10:42] {scottie} Are you still in HPQ ?
01[10:42] {Threei}  yes
01[10:42] {Threei}  grrr HD
01[10:43] {Threei}  got away
[10:43] {Will49} got a .12 scalp tks Vad
01[10:43] {Threei}  :)
[10:43] {Les} shorted it for .18 ty
01[10:43] {Threei}  yw... I missed it
[10:44] {Will49} get with the program :)
01[10:44] {Threei}  sorry
[10:44] {Les} big volume bar at .85...
01[10:44] {Threei}  I'll try
[10:44] {Les} air below that
[10:44] {cc_8} Stocks Hitting 52-Week LowsPosted on: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 10:19amVodafone Group Public Limited Company (NASDAQ: VOD) shares lost 3.24% to create a new 52-week low of $25.54.
[10:50] {dino} out fwlt .63 ave, +.28
01[10:50] {Threei}  wtg
[10:51] {scottie} VOD l .80 ?
[10:51] {dino} ty
01[10:51] {Threei}  I'd prefer .75 short scottie
[10:51] {scottie} ok tks
[10:52] {cc_8} JC Penney Shares Continue Slide Despite Ackman DefensePosted on: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 10:34am  Shares of J.C. Penney (NYSE: JCP) traded lower on Tuesday, down a bit more than one percent,
01[10:53] {Threei}  insanity spreads all over the globe faster than plague:
01[10:53] {Threei}  Peugeot SA Said to have stopped talks with GM over a strong relationship due to talks with France on a potential bailout and its conditions
[10:54] {nemo} we'll probably rally to the weekly pivot, maybe not today, but gotta' creat range...traders gotta' eat
[10:54] {Les} nice one scottie .81 to .97
[10:54] {Les} ty
[10:54] {scottie} ty .80 to .00
[10:54] {nemo} weekly pivot spy 139.75ish
[10:56] {Les} oh god i fu&%ed up big time
01[10:56] {Threei}  I am lost
01[10:57] {Threei}  .81 to .97?
[10:57] {Les} bought VOD at .81 sold HD at .97 frrrrik
01[10:57] {Threei}  hmmm
[10:57] {nemo} wow
[10:57] {nemo} Hey Les, stay away from power tools
01[10:57] {Threei}  sold short or closed long?
[10:58] {Les} entered order and boy returns home crying with busted lip
[10:58] {Les} its ok its sorted
[10:58] {nemo} kill the kid
[10:58] {Les} hehehe
[10:58] {Les} still long VOD
[10:58] {Les} 2 trade screen setup...
01[10:58] {Threei}  good news is, HD is not really out of money
01[10:59] {Threei}  and VOD is positive
[10:59] {nemo} Mmmmhhhh, if Texas secedes, might be worth moving there...They'll clean up the border...Of course the UN will show up
01[10:59] {Threei}  bad news is... well, you know
01[10:59] {Threei}  yeah right
01[11:00] {Threei}  these secession talks are so childish
01[11:00] {Threei}  we didn't get what we wanted in election, waaaa
01[11:01] {Threei}  next time go f***ng vote maybe?
[11:01] {Beau} nemo, gov. oops will welcome you with a cup of tea
[11:01] {Les} someone gave my boy his old skateboard today. Guess he's learnt his lesson
01[11:02] {Threei}  3 million fewer republicans went to vote this time than in 2008
01[11:02] {Threei}  so, shut up and don't complain - you get what you voted
[11:02] {Will49} he's not talking to you TBell
[11:03] {Les} really?
[11:03] {Les} what? they thought they had it in the bag with Romney?
[11:03] {Les} or team Romney was disorganised?
01[11:03] {Threei}  my understanding is, he was too moderate for them
01[11:03] {Threei}  they wanted someone more conservative
[11:04] {Les} was Ryan supposed to be that man?
01[11:04] {Threei}  never mind that someone more conservative would stand zero chance with independents
[11:04] {Les} sold at .90 paper trade scale out 
[11:04] {Les} ty scottie
01[11:05] {Threei}  how idiotic must one's position be that instead of moderate conservative gave them far left?
[11:07] {nemo} bell curve applied to intelligence =60% plus are morons by genetic makeup
[11:07] {nemo} I mean, look at Les...
[11:07] {scottie} yw 
[11:07] {scottie} les
01[11:08] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .15 break hl
01[11:08] {Threei}  If holds  .05 
01[11:11] {Threei}  IMO, if republicans don't do away with radical social conservative element, they'll lose elections every single time. Mainstream moved to fiscally conservative (barely), socially liberal
[11:12] {cipher} nemo kors
[11:13] {nemo} yeah, dropped 51.50 inflection...oh oh
[11:14] {cipher} kors l.55
[11:14] {nemo} depending on market, like to see it make it back there and see what it does
[11:17] {cipher} out kors -.15
[11:17] {cipher} kors l .30
[11:18] {thomcbell} short setup qcom 62.58 break if holding 62.68
[11:20] {Beau} vad didn't CAT trigger with 2 bars at .16?
01[11:20] {Threei}  it did
[11:22] {scottie} AGNC s .30 ?
01[11:22] {Threei}  chart is right but need SPY tofinally reverse
[11:22] {nemo} spy short worth a try here
[11:23] {Les} .70 is VWAP on HD. new setup coming
[11:23] {thomcbell} target on qcom is 1:2
[11:24] {cipher} out kors .69 +.39
01[11:24] {Threei}  (GR) France President Hollande: Greece has earned the support from its official creditors and deserves aid- Notes that France needs to cut �50B in spending over the coming 5 years
01[11:24] {Threei}  "It aint gotta do nothin' with deservin' "
[11:25] {nemo} "Deservin' ain't got nothin' to do with it."
[11:25] {Les} what are you 2? cojoined twins?
[11:26] {scottie} in .29
[11:26] {cipher} s kors .80
[11:27] {nemo} wow, Les used a two syllable word
[11:27] {Les} 2 and ? are two seperate symbols
06[11:27] * nemo faints
[11:28] {Les} :P
[11:29] {scottie} half out
[11:30] {dino} took all morning, but out crus .90, +.30
[11:31] {cipher} stopped kors -.22
01[11:35] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .70 break
01[11:35] {Threei}  If holds  .80 
[11:36] {Les} vwap is .85 might go there
[11:37] {thomcbell} qcom 1:1
01[11:38] {Threei}  you tamed it tbell
01[11:38] {Threei}  I hate that animal
[11:38] {thomcbell} crazy move off open with the rest of the market 
[11:39] {scottie} half out HPQ
[11:41] {scottie} out AGNC + .19
01[11:41] {Threei}  wtg
[11:41] {scottie} ty
01[11:41] {Threei}  loss of .20 should send HPQ into vortex of despair
[11:43] {scottie} wow agnc
[11:45] {thomcbell} qcom flat on balance
01[11:45] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .80 break
[11:46] {Les} FCX flirting with 39
01[11:47] {Threei}  invalidated again
01[11:47] {Threei}  good boy HPQ
[11:54] {Les} where is the call for shorting HPQ?
[11:55] {Les} SLW long .50?
01[11:57] {Threei}  I'd prefer .40 short
[11:57] {Les} k
01[11:57] {Threei}  [09:32] {Threei} Short Setup: HPQ .30 break
01[11:57] {Threei}  [09:32] {Threei} If holds .40
01[11:57] {Threei}  09:25] {Threei} HPQ, yesterday's low is .30
01[11:57] {Threei}  [09:26] {Threei} if gives us some consolidation and breakdown, it's a ride down
[11:58] {Les} ok thanks no wonder i couldn't find it
[12:00] {Les} s slw .39
[12:03] {thomcbell} lvs very heavy
[12:05] {Les} HPQ short .16?
01[12:05] {Threei}  .20 looked better
[12:06] {Les} ..16 is half pivot support
[12:09] {Les} GDX
[12:11] {Les} slw stop
[12:18] {cc_8} Tesla Shares Tick Higher as CEO Elon Musk Speaking on CNBCPosted on: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 11:59am
[12:20] {scottie} HPQ +.18 tks Vad
[12:22] {dino} gotta hop for hour or so
01[12:22] {Threei}  :)
01[12:22] {Threei}  I am going to try for more
[12:22] {Les} took it short .15 half out .10 let's see if we can get to 13.00
[12:26] {Les} nice descending channel on HPQ daily. Sitting on lower channel. wonder if it could cascade into capitulation
01[12:27] {Threei}  remember I said yesterday, if I were in any mood for swing trades, this would be the one
01[12:28] {Threei}  this thing is on death watch
[12:28] {thomcbell} sad really
[12:28] {thomcbell} qcom is strong as 10 men 
01[12:31] {Threei}  crap
01[12:31] {Threei}  had in mind CAT short at .80 and completely forgot about it
[12:32] {Les} shorted miners too early
01[12:32] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .80 break
01[12:33] {Threei}  If holds  .90 
[12:33] {nemo} kors
01[12:40] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .40 break
[12:44] {Les} fb
01[12:44] {Threei}  can't pinpoint the pattern on it
01[12:45] {Threei}  3 invalidations
[12:45] {Les} vwap is .86
01[12:47] {Threei}  frikin cat
[12:49] {nemo} this area could be the bottom , with caveat that spy vwap is at .43
01[12:49] {Threei}  10% Rate Congress� Job Performance As Good or Excellent
[12:50] {nemo} IWM SPY QQQ and Finnies have hit confluence support levels
[12:53] {Les} 15 min MACD needs to turn. not buying breaks yet
01[12:53] {Threei}  gotta change some things... not really happy with my read over kast few days
01[12:53] {Threei}  nor with typing... kast = last
[12:58] {Les} you need to do a Costanza
01[13:02] {Threei}  ok
01[13:02] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .90 break
01[13:02] {Threei}  that's costanza trade
01[13:05] {Threei}  target 1:3
01[13:05] {Threei}  hype about giant lockup expiration continues and become hysteric
01[13:05] {Threei}  perfect squeeze setup
01[13:06] {Threei}  and when this kind of squeezes start...
01[13:06] {Threei}  1:3 may even be too conservative
01[13:06] {Threei}  1:1
[13:06] {Les} oh you beautiful thing
06[13:07] * Threei slaps Les around a bit with a life-sized statue of George Costanza
[13:07] {Les} I will have to watch entire series one day
06[13:08] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a life-sized statue of Newman
01[13:08] {Threei}  you so do
01[13:08] {Threei}  it's classic, one can't go through life without seeing it
[13:09] {Les} quarter .07
[13:09] {Les} last for .20
[13:11] {thomcbell} nice one FB
[13:11] {Will49} tks Vad for fading yourself :)
[13:11] {Will49} +.16
[13:11] {Les} hehehe
01[13:11] {Threei}  not exactly, lol... remember this idea from yesterday?
01[13:12] {Threei}  it was formikng shiort setups three or four times today, and none has triggered
[13:12] {thomcbell} i bought the stupid thing under 19 
01[13:12] {Threei}  so long was in order
[13:13] {Will49} ok i'm sold
[13:13] {Will49} comvenced
01[13:13] {Threei}  well, who is stupid now, tbell :)
[13:13] {Will49} convinced
01[13:13] {Threei}  willl... my typing is highly contagious
[13:13] {Will49} no kidding
[13:14] {Will49} i foloow everything you do Vad
[13:14] {Will49} follow
[13:14] {Will49} so stay married OK?
01[13:14] {Threei}  then you might wanna go easy on bacon
[13:14] {Will49} love bacon
01[13:14] {Threei}  my consumption exceeds mortal norms
01[13:15] {Threei}  or, norm of mortals
01[13:15] {Threei}  it's purely ethical thing for me, you see: http://goo.gl/cKGyV
[13:16] {Will49} lol
[13:17] {thomcbell} short setup clne - 12.15 break if holding 12.25
01[13:22] {Threei}  lol, who would expect this:
01[13:22] {Threei}  (GR) Greece PM Samaras: Affirms Greece is aiming to get more than the �31B tranche; next step is to pursue a path to growth
01[13:23] {Threei}  (CA) Canada govt to push back balanced budget by one year, expects to generate budget surplus in 2017- Budget deficits are expected to widen more than anticipated, budget deficit for 2013 to be C$26B v $21.1B prior target. - Budget is being impacted by falling commodity prices
[13:28] {Les} china flu passing around I c
[13:30] {Les} 2nd half HPQ stopped
[13:30] {thomcbell} clne still valid - in fact i like it more
[13:39] {Will49} CLNE not on short list
[13:40] {scottie} msft l .30 ?
[13:40] {thomcbell} ok sorry
01[13:41] {Threei}  chart is right
[13:41] {thomcbell} yes i like the setup
01[13:52] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .35 break
01[13:53] {Threei}  If holds  .25 
01[13:53] {Threei}  and yes, it's Costanza-insipred
01[13:56] {Threei}  cool... a woman tried to run over her husband after the srgument about an election
01[13:57] {Threei}  that's what I call politically passionate
01[13:58] {Threei}  actually ran over him
01[13:58] {Threei}  http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/13/2566717/arizona-police-woman-runs-over.html
01[14:00] {Threei}  *(US) OCT MONTHLY BUDGET STATEMENT: -$120B V -$113BE- Receipts: $184B v $163.07B y/y - Outlays: $304B v $261.54B y/y
01[14:00] {Threei}  we are firmly on track to that 20T, beau :)
01[14:01] {Threei}  ~100B monthly deficit, x12 months = 1.2T annually
01[14:01] {Threei}  x 4 years = 4.8T... I'll give you 0.8T slack
01[14:01] {Threei}  16.2T as of now
[14:05] {scottie}  PMT l .50 ?
01[14:05] {Threei}  yup
[14:08] {scottie} in .51
[14:15] {scottie} out -.14
[14:23] {Les} s hd .69
01[14:23] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .90 break
01[14:24] {Threei}  If holds  .95 
[14:30] {Les} I love HD
[14:31] {Will49} Vad's nemisis
[14:31] {Les} cover .50 continue partialling on paper 63 is target
01[14:31] {Threei}  FB invalidated again
01[14:34] {Threei} Short Setup: HD  .60 break
01[14:34] {Threei}  If holds  .65 
01[14:35] {Threei}  tight stop, aggressive entry for .50 break
01[14:36] {Threei}  half out
[14:36] {Les} yeh baby
01[14:37] {Threei}  now if loses .50 we have a chance for a quick cascade
[14:37] {Les} waterfall
[14:38] {dino} wow bidu
01[14:40] {Threei}  scalpers win
[14:45] {Les} China stocks don't appear to be taking the lead following AAPL...
[14:47] {dino} sbs drop
01[14:47] {Threei}  grrr
01[14:47] {Threei}  look at CAT
01[14:47] {Threei}  it laughs at me today
[14:47] {nemo} cat scratched are ya'?
[14:47] {dino} hl l .25
[14:48] {dino} out .71, +.46
[14:49] {nemo} bounced right at 200, which is at the breakout level
[14:49] {Les} nice play. ugly chart
[14:49] {dino} say that and bgt
[14:49] {dino} saw
[14:49] {dino} sold too soon tho
[14:50] {nemo} well, profits when bungi jumping
[14:50] {dino} exactly
[14:50] {nemo} you either make money or squash your melon
[14:51] {dino} sort of the bear theory....some days you eat the bear, some days the bear eats you
[14:56] {Les} http://tinyurl.com/d5llcod
[14:56] {Les} Will there's  a record of that bubble busting intrest of mine
[14:56] {Les} HD just fit the profile
[14:58] {Les} speaking of which, forgot about JCP from yesterdays close
[14:58] {Will49} Very colourful!
[14:59] {Les} need to log a couple of hundred for validity or otherwise
[15:00] {cc_8} One of 2012's Worst Performers, Molycorp, Hit by DowngradePosted on: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 1:48pm  Shares of Molycorp (NYSE: MCP) continued to move lower on Tuesday, trading down over four percent. Analysts at Morgan Stanley opted to downgrade the stock to Equal-weight, noting that the ongoing SEC investigation was an overhang on the price of shares.
01[15:07] {Threei} Short Setup: BIDU  99 break hl
01[15:07] {Threei}  If holds  .15 
[15:09] {nemo} wow, vad calling a BIDU trade
[15:09] {nemo} is it 12/21?
01[15:10] {Threei}  stop .11
01[15:10] {Threei}  2 cents to 1:1
[15:10] {nemo} it loses this low, you're good for a coupla bucks at least
01[15:10] {Threei}  should drop again here
01[15:10] {Threei}  1:1
01[15:12] {Threei}  7% Think U.S. Is Winning War on Drugs
01[15:12] {Threei}  what drug they are on?
[15:12] {Les} those'd be the one's that didn't respond to yesterday's poll on drug legalisation
[15:12] {nemo} look for spy bounce
01[15:12] {Threei}  and 10% think Congress does excellent job...
[15:13] {Les} coincidence?
01[15:13] {Threei}  can't be
01[15:13] {Threei}  there must be some level of drugs in blood that causes this kind of severe delusions
01[15:18] {Threei}  now HD broke .50
[15:18] {Les} forgot about HD
01[15:20] {Threei} Short Setup: AVP  .05 break
01[15:21] {Threei}  If holds  .10 
[15:24] {thomcbell} aig may sell rest of its stake i just heard 
[15:24] {thomcbell} might watch it for some craziness
01[15:27] {Threei}  feels like another leg down in the market
01[15:27] {Threei}  with SPY losing 138
01[15:27] {Threei} Short Setup: WFC  .05 break
01[15:38] {Threei}  perfect formation to drop from here, SPY
01[15:38] {Threei}  reverse, drop fast, break 138 and die
[15:38] {nemo} spyhas the 200 overhead
01[15:39] {Threei}  AMD Said to have hired an advisor to pursue strategic options which may lead to sale of company or divestiture of patents
01[15:41] {Threei}  good boy, now lose that 138
01[15:42] {Threei}  all I am saying is not an opinion, SPY - it's instructions
01[15:42] {Threei}  there... proceed as you are told
[15:51] {Will49} dump dump dump
01[15:54] {Threei}  ok WFC, you8 know my real idea was 32 break... so lose it in a hurry
01[15:54] {Threei}  and die
01[15:55] {Threei}  from the look of daily, that oughtta be good
[15:56] {Les} coverd flat
01[15:57] {Threei}  saved by the bell... covered .02
01[15:58] {Threei}  more of Costanza tomorrow I guess
01[15:58] {Threei}  thank you all
01[15:58] {Threei}  have a good evening
[15:58] {Les} cheers
[15:58] {scottie} gn all
[15:58] {Will49} TTFN
[15:59] {nemo} futes selling big
[15:59] {nemo} Black Wednesday toomorrow


  

Monday, November 12, 2012

Nov 12 2012

Slightly negative day, as exceptionally low volume kept follow-through minimal. win, loss, three wins, three losses, win... you got the idea.


Session Time: Mon Nov 12 00:00:00 2012
[09:01] {scottie} good morning
01[09:02] {Threei}  morning scottie
[09:02] {scottie} Will be away for an hour or two, but keeping a channel open
[09:08] {dino} gm
01[09:09] {Threei}  dino :)
01[09:10] {Threei}  51% Think Auto Bailouts Were Good for the United States
01[09:11] {Threei}  see what I meant when said we are witnessing major remaking of american psyche
[09:18] {Will49} GM
01[09:18] {Threei}  will :)
[09:20] {nemo} interesting experience waking up to a rabbit sniffing your face
01[09:21] {Threei}  try not to fall asleep with carrot in your ear?
[09:21] {nemo} not usually in that orifice
[09:24] {Les} morning
[09:24] {Les} or afternoon  as the case may be
01[09:25] {Threei}  les :)
[09:25] {Beau} good morning
01[09:25] {Threei}  beau :)
01[09:28] {Threei}  main challenge as with all gap up days is...
01[09:29] {Threei}  to tell early whether we face slow climb up or reversal
[09:29] {cipher} gm
01[09:29] {Threei}  keep an eye on CAT that didn't get a memo about gap up
01[09:29] {Threei}  cipher :)
01[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .50 break hl
01[09:30] {Threei}  not much chance
01[09:31] {Threei}  but if by some miracle you got itm you know what to do
01[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .60 break hl
01[09:31] {Threei}  If holds  .50 
[09:32] {ese} morning got carried away reading about Petraeuses career
01[09:32] {Threei}  lol
[09:32] {thomcbell} looking for a long setup in FB - has been a relentless selloff since the positive earnings response
01[09:32] {Threei}  ese :)
01[09:33] {Threei}  let's trail to .54
01[09:33] {Threei}  takes too long
01[09:33] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .60 break
01[09:33] {Threei}  If holds  .50 
01[09:34] {Threei}  FCX 1:1
[09:34] {ese} L btu .41
[09:36] {Les} DB cat?
01[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .25 break hl
01[09:36] {Threei}  If holds  .35 
[09:38] {nemo} cat two way
01[09:38] {Threei}  probably
01[09:38] {Threei}  not liking widening spread
[09:38] {nemo} is it trading :-)
[09:39] {nemo} gappy trading for cat
01[09:39] {Threei}  it is
01[09:40] {Threei}  trail LVS to .54
01[09:40] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .65 break
01[09:40] {Threei}  If holds  .70 
01[09:43] {Threei}  no go FCX
[09:43] {nemo} think today is buy support sell resistance
[09:43] {dino} fwlt gap fill
[09:43] {thomcbell} yes thats how it feels to me 
01[09:43] {Threei}  LVS 1:1
01[09:43] {Threei}  target 1:2
[09:47] {thomcbell} long setup FB 19.10 break if holding 19
[09:47] {thomcbell} playing this one by the book 
[09:47] {cipher} fwlt l .55
01[09:48] {Threei}  1:2
01[09:48] {Threei}  out
01[09:48] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .70 break
[09:48] {Les} me 2 ty
01[09:48] {Threei}  yw
[09:50] {Les} wow was wondering which way for SLW
[09:54] {cc_8} Hill International Selected as Construction Manager for $1.4B Rising Sun Taipei City in ChinaPosted on: Monday, November 12, 2012 - 9:32am Hill . International (NYSE: HIL), the global leader in managing construction risk, . announced today that it has been selected by Rising Sun International
01[09:55] {Threei} Short Setup: MET  .85 break
[09:56] {cc_8} Spain's Bankia reports 4 billion euro loss, to receive immediate aid
01[09:57] {Threei}  (GR) Parliament in Germany said to be planning to hold vote on the Greece aid at some point next week - financial press
01[09:58] {Threei}  (GR) Preliminary Troika technical report said to indicate Troika sees "very large risks" related to the Greece program, sees more financing needs in 2015-16 period - financial press- Troika sees perceptible improvement of compliance by Greece. - Greek program shortfalls said to stem from slow growth rates and delays in asset sales. - Notes Greece will need an added �15B through 2014
[09:59] {cipher} fwlt stopped .46 -.09
01[09:59] {Threei}  let's keep MET at .91
[10:01] {dino} fwlt l .53
01[10:02] {Threei} Long Setup:  ED  .25 break
01[10:02] {Threei}  ugh, late
[10:04] {nemo} spy iwm long setup
[10:04] {nemo} don't know if much in it today
01[10:04] {Threei}  not very clear
01[10:05] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .25 break
01[10:05] {Threei}  If holds  .15 
[10:05] {cipher} fwlt l.53
[10:07] {Les} db play slw=
[10:07] {Les} ?
01[10:08] {Threei}  could be, not clear hyet
01[10:08] {Threei}  SPY is hesitant
01[10:08] {Threei}  can't make up its mind
[10:08] {Les} yeh BB's tightening here 1 min
01[10:08] {Threei}  feels to me like resolution is about to come in a form of breakdown
01[10:09] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  85 break hl
01[10:09] {Threei}  If holds  .10 
[10:10] {dino} bzh hl l .55
01[10:11] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .07
01[10:11] {Threei}  If holds  .15 
01[10:11] {Threei}  here comes my breakdown
01[10:12] {Threei}  CAT target 1:3
01[10:15] {Threei}  is it blind or what
[10:16] {cipher} BZH S .53
[10:16] {cipher} COV 1/2 .41
[10:18] {dino} bzh stop -.22
[10:20] {Will49} the cat is taking a catnap
01[10:21] {Threei}  not liking such a long stall
[10:22] {cipher} cov rest bzh .21+.32
01[10:23] {Threei}  oh well
01[10:23] {Threei}  not following the market
01[10:23] {Threei}  interestingly, not many stocks did
[10:24] {cipher} bzh l .91
01[10:25] {Threei}  FCX lmost looks like it mirros market in opposite direction
01[10:25] {Threei} Short Setup: HPQ  .55 break
01[10:25] {Threei}  If holds  .60 
01[10:26] {Threei}  this is slow one
01[10:26] {Threei}  don't take it if you are a jittery type
01[10:28] {Threei}  watching FB for long
01[10:28] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .05 break
01[10:28] {Threei}  If holds  .95 
01[10:29] {Threei}  target 1:3
[10:29] {dino} clf hl l .27
[10:30] {cipher} out fwlt .89 -.02
[10:32] {ese} L btu avg .48
[10:33] {dino} if they can't take them down soon, up we go imo
[10:33] {cc_8} j2 Global Acquires Ziff Davis For $167MPosted on: Monday, November 12, 2012 - 10:13amj2 Global (NASDAQ: JCOM), the provider of business cloud services, . today announced that it has acquired Ziff Davis, Inc., a leading media company .
[10:33] {cc_8} Mid-Morning Market Update: Markets Continue Cautious Rally; Jefferies Acquired by Leucadia
01[10:38] {Threei}  noise from EU is deafening today
01[10:38] {Threei}  (EU) France Fin Min Moscovici: Germany and France have a strong relationship, there are no misunderstandings between the nations- Would like to see an agreement reached on Greece later tonight. - A decisive political agreement needs to be arrived at durning today's meeting. - We may not solve all of Greece's problems today, but today's outcome cannot be negative or neutral. - It is normal for Germany to study the French economy (*Note: over the weekend, there were reports that Germany Finance Minister Schaeuble said to have asked panel of German 'wise men' to conduct study of French economy to highlight lack of efforts to improve competitiveness). - Germany Fin Min Schaeuble: German Parliament needs to endorse any final decision on Greece.
01[10:38] {Threei}  no misunderstandings, eh
[10:39] {Les} negative or neutral for who?
[10:39] {Les} everyone gets it now
[10:39] {Les} saving German bankers, not greece
01[10:40] {Threei}  Greece is beyond salvation
01[10:40] {Threei}  save a box of matches or Greece, choice is clear
[10:42] {Les} 28 August 2013 earliest date for German federal elections
[10:42] {Les} god I hope Greece goes bust earlier or the jawboning is gonna be torture
[10:43] {dino} fwlt to .69
[10:43] {dino} clf to .51
[10:44] {cipher} out fwlt .73 +.20 took forever
[10:44] {dino} out clf +.24
[10:44] {dino} out fwlt +.16
01[10:46] {Threei}  wtg
[10:48] {dino} ty
[10:50] {nemo} does gild go momo
01[10:50] {Threei}  HPQ is valid again
01[10:51] {Threei}  especially if SPY loses .20
01[10:52] {Threei}  (GR) Austria Fin Min Fekter: Giving Greece more time will be 'difficult'; hard to envision taxpayers providing Greece more money- Not expecting a decision to come on Greece today
[10:53] {dino} no matter what greece defaults, so get on w/it
01[10:54] {Threei}  I wosh they did
01[10:54] {Threei}  wish
01[10:57] {Threei}  - US equities got an early bump as deal hunters stepped in to buy after last week's post-election swoon, however indices were back to the flatline within the first hour of trading. Note that fixed income trading is shut today in observance of Veterans' Day. Trading volumes are significantly below average. There is little economic data to trade off this morning, and there has been some anxiety about the Greek situation. The EU confirmed receipt of a technical report from the Troika but warned that no decision was expected on extending bailout conditions or releasing the next tranche of aid. EUR/USD was steady above the 1.27 handle
01[11:00] {Threei}  HPQ has no support in sight
01[11:02] {Threei}  let's cover first part here
[11:02] {thomcbell} lvs looks vulnerable too but too fast down here 
01[11:02] {Threei}  stop to .56
01[11:03] {Threei}  LVS is short consideration if bounces to .35 - .40 zone
01[11:03] {Threei}  let's scratch FB into this bounce
01[11:04] {Threei}  out .04
[11:06] {dino} fb lockup 11/14 i think
01[11:06] {Threei}  yes, about 750 mln shares
01[11:10] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .35 break
[11:12] {dino} cnqr hl l .00
01[11:12] {Threei} Short Setup: EXC  .85 break
01[11:12] {Threei}  If holds  .90 
01[11:18] {Threei}  another SPY leg down is coming
[11:20] {Les} JPM
[11:22] {thomcbell} y jpm and aapl 
[11:24] {ese} ya ...if that leg down comes am gonna have to exit btu even probably
[11:24] {Les} stop sweep exc?
01[11:25] {Threei}  ?
[11:25] {Les} 1 print of 31.14 and loooong tail
01[11:26] {Threei}  I see nothing like that
[11:26] {Les} really? I saw it in T&S
[11:26] {Les} definitely got a tail extending to .14
01[11:26] {Threei}  none on my chart
[11:27] {Les} strange. fusion shows it
01[11:27] {Threei}  anyone else got this?
[11:27] {scottie} not here
[11:27] {Will49} nor here
[11:29] {dino} jwn hl l .15 trig
[11:30] {Les} sent it to ya email
01[11:31] {Threei}  I believe you
[11:31] {dino} out cnqr .35, +.35
01[11:32] {Threei}  LVS stop .41
[11:35] {Les} got an admin message- please route away from SDOT/NYSE experiencing technical issues
01[11:39] {Threei}  HPQ, tried to cover second partial at .36, no takie
01[11:39] {Threei}  stop to .51 now
01[11:40] {Threei}  read this load of horse manure
01[11:40] {Threei}  IMF's Lipton: Fiscal adjustments worldwide should be conducted in 'growth friendly' ways- Affirms that if nothing is done on the US fiscal cliff the US will fall into a recession. - Central banks should be prepared to provide stimulus.
01[11:40] {Threei}  do they have any other word ijn their vocabulary but "stimulus"?
[11:40] {Les} growth friendly
[11:40] {Les} love it
01[11:41] {Threei}  it's like reflex in them,
01[11:41] {Threei}  when offered word "recession" they answer stimulu
01[11:41] {Threei}  growth - stimulus
01[11:41] {Threei}  wanna drink? - stimulus
[11:41] {Les} Skyfall
01[11:42] {Threei}  just think, this bunch one one-rail idiots runs the world
01[11:43] {Threei}  up to today I thought Lipton was a tea... now I know it's also synonym to idiot
[11:43] {Les} :)
[11:43] {cc_8} Mylan (NASDAQ: MYL) shares jumped 1.86% to create a new 52-week high of $26.35. Mylan's PEG ratio is 1.09.
01[11:46] {Threei}  The US Could Become World's Largest Energy Producer by 2017
01[11:46] {Threei}  who said we can't drill our way to energy independence?
[11:47] {nemo} not if Obama has anything to saya bout it
01[11:47] {Threei}  it happens on private lands
01[11:47] {Threei}  not on federal
[11:47] {nemo} no such thing as private property here any more Komrade
[11:48] {nemo} silly Vad
01[11:48] {Threei}  sorry Komrade
01[11:48] {Threei}  I don't know what I was thinjing
[11:48] {nemo} I"m having a problem staying awake today
01[11:48] {Threei}  I withdraw my stupid and inappropriate remark
[11:48] {nemo} Lumpin pisdah
01[11:48] {Threei}  and if you are not willing to forgive me, I'll self-depot to Gulag
01[11:49] {Threei}  deport
[11:49] {nemo} cut trees for the proletariat
01[11:49] {Threei}  and produce coal
[11:49] {nemo} That's what Zhukie used to say about his time there
[11:49] {dino} if they stop fracking the energy boom will die
[11:49] {nemo} I was cutting trees for the glory of the proletariat
[11:49] {dino} obummer against fracking
01[11:49] {Threei}  out second partial HPQ
[11:49] {ese} hey .....who are you calling a proletariet
[11:49] {nemo} I'm against humanity...too much Co2 and methane
[11:50] {ese} lol
01[11:50] {Threei}  not you ese, you are intelligencia
[11:50] {nemo} don't worry ese, your a pisdah
[11:50] {nemo} nice one Vad
[11:50] {ese} ok then.........!!!!
[11:50] {Les} hehehe
[11:50] {nemo} I'd rather be a lumpin
01[11:50] {Threei}  HPQ, aiming for .25 with final cover
[11:50] {ese} pisdah?
[11:50] {nemo} hehehehehe
01[11:50] {Threei}  although this thing looks to me bottomless'
[11:51] {nemo} JCP fur crissakes
[11:51] {ese} don't get angry es..........get even..........best moto ever
[11:51] {dino} bzh hl l .30
01[11:51] {Threei}  if I were in the mood for swing trade, this is the short I'd hold
[11:52] {ese} bzh?
[11:52] {ese} or jcp
01[11:52] {Threei}  11:50] {Threei} HPQ, aiming for .25 with final cover
01[11:52] {Threei}  [11:50] {Threei} although this thing looks to me bottomless'
01[11:52] {Threei}  [11:51] {Threei} if I were in the mood for swing trade, this is the short I'd hold
01[11:53] {Threei}  EXC, bid first partial .76
01[11:56] {Threei}  gosh LVS, you asre so annoying
01[11:57] {Threei}  covered part EXC
01[11:59] {Threei}  finally
01[11:59] {Threei}  first partial out LVS
01[11:59] {Threei}  that's three shorts working
01[11:59] {Threei}  day becomes much brighter
[12:03] {scottie} are you targeting 1:2 or 1:3 on those two trades Vad ?
01[12:05] {Threei}  HPQ 1:3
01[12:05] {Threei}  EXC 1:2
01[12:05] {Threei}  LVS 1:3
[12:05] {scottie} tks
01[12:08] {Threei}  strictly speaking, they had 5 cents stops, so it's double targets... but let's not get too technical :)
[12:09] {nemo} celg might be worth a short play here
[12:09] {nemo} but vwap just above 76
01[12:15] {Threei}  LVS second cover
[12:16] {thomcbell} me too - thanks for the entry - 
01[12:19] {Threei}  :)
[12:20] {dino} out jwn .55, +.40
[12:22] {scottie} exc +.16 ty Vad
01[12:22] {Threei}  yw
[12:23] {ese} spyders look like a double B to me.......possibly triple..it just need to break through .20
[12:24] {scottie} lvs +.19 ty
01[12:25] {Threei}  :)
[12:25] {nemo} spy iwm making vwap run spy 200 is .28
[12:26] {Les} cover quarter .66
01[12:28] {Threei}  covering EXC
[12:32] {Les} all covered ty sir
01[12:32] {Threei}  yw
01[12:32] {Threei}  very slow but productive
[12:33] {nemo} there's vwap for spy, iwm almost there, pivots next
[12:33] {ese} L BTU AVG .47
[12:35] {scottie} AEP s .05 if holds .10
[12:35] {scottie} ?
01[12:36] {Threei}  yup
[12:36] {ese} hmmmmmm make that .466642
[12:36] {ese} ya .47
01[12:36] {Threei}  lol
01[12:40] {Threei}  45% Think Marijuana Should be Legalized, 45% Disagree
[12:41] {Will49} that's progress right there
[12:42] {Les} .07 break TNA looks good in the rear view mirror
[12:42] {scottie} The remaining 10 % is so stoned they don't understand the question
[12:42] {Will49} lol
01[12:42] {Threei}  lol
01[12:42] {Threei}  The remaining 10 %: it was illegal??
[12:43] {scottie} lol
[12:47] {scottie} EXC s .60 ?
01[12:48] {Threei}  not sure, feels exhausted for the day
[12:48] {scottie} ok
[12:55] {cc_8} Mid-Day Market Update: Markets Slow Their Rally; JC Penney Spikes Lower
[13:18] {nemo} Here's the confluences:  http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=238239d4-a2cd-4ef8-bee7-c7b7f8f503b1
[13:19] {nemo} I'm outta here for the day
[13:19] {nemo} P&Q  Les, stop licking your ass
[13:19] {Les} :P
[13:22] {thomcbell} duh FB
01[13:23] {Threei}  yeah
01[13:23] {Threei}  my initial idea was:
01[13:23] {Threei}  everyone and their brother know about lockup date coming,
01[13:23] {Threei}  negative comments everywnere,
[13:24] {thomcbell} yy
01[13:24] {Threei}  no single person reacts on FB with anything other than "short!"
01[13:24] {Threei}  yet it holds decently, not making new lows
01[13:24] {Threei}  Clear trap ready to get closed
01[13:24] {Threei}  then it just lost chart formation for long
01[13:25] {Threei}  so I dumped it about breakeven, as SPY looked like breakdown (which was true at the moment)
01[13:25] {Threei}  then I just forgot about it, lol
01[13:25] {Threei}  if I watched, I'd get tempet by that .05 break again
[13:25] {scottie} Les, just got a print at 31.14 on EXC
01[13:25] {Threei}  at1 pm
[13:31] {dino} bzh stop -.21
[13:32] {Les} yeh 3 prints between .20 - .25 dunno what it means. almost all the same price
[13:32] {Les} between :20 & :25 I mean
01[13:34] {Threei}  it doesn't mean anything
01[13:34] {Threei}  prints out of bounds
01[13:34] {Threei}  could be late printfsd
01[13:35] {Threei}  could be erroneous prints
01[13:35] {Threei}  they don't influence antyhing
01[13:35] {Threei}  or signal anyuthing
01[13:35] {Threei}  sure, there isd always some consipracy theorist whi thinks it's market makers signal something to each other
01[13:36] {Threei}  guess what - he is a lipton
01[13:36] {Threei}  err, an idiot
[13:37] {ese} zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............dad............are we there yet...........................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[13:37] {Will49} just like at scholl eh ese?
[13:37] {Will49} school
[13:37] {ese} yup
[13:39] {ese} am deciding whether to take my .08 profit on1600shs of not
[13:39] {ese} or
[13:39] {ese} put the stop in at .39 and go to the bar
[13:40] {Will49} let's take a vote
[13:40] {ese} ok............go for it
[13:40] {dino} bar it is
[13:40] {Will49} bar by far
[13:41] {ese} too funny
[13:41] {ese} i'm buyin............if i sell it 112 bucks should do it
[13:44] {ese} hmmmmmm.....take away commisions........internet fees......news fees..........vads board fees.........house power.....mortagage............forget it..............i'm 200 in the hole...............ciphers' buyin
[13:45] {ese} make that vad..........your russian vodka for me vad.........make it a double......it's a day off
[13:46] {thomcbell} come on FB
[13:46] {thomcbell} really Vad 
[13:46] {ese} swear at it..............that really woks on this board
[13:46] {ese} works
01[13:46] {Threei}  I am beyond lost
01[13:46] {Threei}  swear at what?
[13:46] {ese} fb
01[13:47] {Threei}  what do we want from it?
[13:47] {ese} thats in your book isn't it?  When all else fails.........swear at it.........the market will take notice and it will move
01[13:48] {Threei}  we are what? long? short? what price?
[13:48] {ese} ummmmmmmmm
[13:48] {ese} short
[13:48] {ese} companies still run by an idiot
01[13:49] {Threei}  yes but it doesn't mean it can't go up
[13:49] {ese} true
01[13:49] {Threei}  it squeezes overconfident shorts that thought those unlocked shares mean certain drop
[13:49] {ese} now i'm confused..........we all hate fb don't we
01[13:50] {Threei}  but if something is so ob vious and everyone knows it, there is no money in it
01[13:50] {Threei}  information-price divergence
[13:50] {ese} true oce again
01[13:51] {Threei}  (GR) ECB expands assistance to Greece banks through accepting more types of securities as collateral -
01[13:51] {Threei}  like, store receipt for pencils?
[13:51] {Will49} olives
01[13:51] {Threei}  as good collateral as any when it comes to Greek bank
[13:53] {ese} forgot to tell you.........had an audience with the liuetenant gover of British Columbia on Friday..........she loved my choir...broke out in tears........wanted to talk to me about the piece.......it's called "Love and Honor"
[13:53] {Will49} honour
[13:53] {ese} y
01[13:54] {Threei}  don't listen to will ese, next thing you know he makes it spell "louve"
01[13:54] {Threei}  louve and honour
01[13:54] {Threei}  louve aund honour
[13:54] {Will49} me... keeper of the Queen's english
01[13:55] {Threei}  what can I say ese... dp also breaks down in tears when hears about your group
01[13:56] {Threei}  probably for the different reason though
[13:56] {Will49} it's the girls for dp
[13:56] {Les} jolly good Will
01[13:56] {Threei}  can you blame him?? :)
[13:57] {ese} am outta here stop is in at .39.......catch ya tomorrow
[13:57] {Will49} only two drinks now....
01[13:57] {Threei}  take care ese... but Iam confused even more
01[13:58] {Threei}  .39, with FB trading at .77?
01[13:58] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .75 break
01[13:58] {Threei}  If holds  .85 
[13:59] {thomcbell} agree with this - u typed it quicker than me 
01[14:03] {Threei}  The IEA predicts the US will be producing 11.1 million barrels per day by 2020, compared with 10.6 million from Saudi Arabia.
01[14:03] {Threei}  any chance I could stretch my fuel tank, to fill up in 2021 next time?
[14:04] {Les} sure. walk
01[14:05] {Threei}  my subrub is larger than your whole country
[14:05] {Les} heheh
01[14:05] {Threei}  suburb
01[14:06] {Threei}  no go
01[14:10] {Threei}  wow
01[14:10] {Threei}  NYSE volume 137M shares, about 58% below its three-month average
[14:12] {dino} that explains a lot
[14:12] {dino} dhi hl l .01
[14:21] {dino} trlg
[14:21] {Will49} Mitt's underware company
01[14:22] {Threei}  takeover chatter
[14:22] {dino} ty
[14:23] {Will49} apologies if I offended anyone
[14:24] {dino} relax
01[14:24] {Threei}  will, we are equal opportunity disresopecters
01[14:25] {Threei}  we do not discriminate who we disrespect
[14:25] {Will49} tks guys
[14:25] {dino} with very thick skin
01[14:25] {Threei}  it's only fair
01[14:25] {Threei}  my main regret about Mitt losing is that he didn't get his chance to earn my disrespect
[14:25] {Will49} lol
01[14:26] {Threei}  it's boring to disrespect the same politician for 8 years
01[14:27] {Threei}  als, I have this glimmer of hope (only glimmer, mind you),
01[14:28] {Threei}  that not being tied by another election prospects and thinking of legacy only, maybe Obama can overcome his ideolgical restraints and move to the center and actually do some right things to do
[14:28] {dino} don't hold your breath
[14:28] {Will49} now that is HOPE
[14:28] {dino} he thinks he's god now
01[14:28] {Threei}  after all, he has access to actual data and can't remain blind to the crash coming
01[14:29] {Threei}  well... as I said... glimmer only :)
[14:29] {Will49} maybe he'll try to get contitution changed so he can run again :)
[14:29] {Will49} constitiution
[14:29] {dino} reverse your thinking...the more people out of work and receiving govt help, the more chance they vote democrat. it's a master plan 
01[14:30] {Threei}  well, fanatics already cahnt "michelle 2016"
01[14:30] {Threei}  chant
[14:30] {dino} so bad = good for his thinking
Session Close: Mon Nov 12 14:30:57 2012

Session Start: Mon Nov 12 14:30:57 2012
Session Ident: #discussions
02[14:30] * Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Nov 12 14:30:57 2012

Session Start: Mon Nov 12 14:31:17 2012
Session Ident: #discussions
03[14:31] * Now talking in #discussions
01[14:31] {Threei}  I know dino... you couldn't let me live 5 min in fanatsy world, could you
[14:32] {dino} never
[14:32] {dino} they should re-name their party the "hand-out" party
01[14:38] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .80 break
01[14:38] {Threei}  I don't like to be stubborn, but the setup is too good
01[14:42] {Threei}  it just has to be good for 1:2 at least
01[14:52] {Threei}  sigh
01[14:53] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .35 break
01[14:53] {Threei}  If holds  .45 
[14:58] {dino} ypf
01[14:59] {Threei}  Invalidated  
01[15:10] {Threei} Short Setup: RAI  .60 break
01[15:20] {Threei}  (US) S&P's Chambers: Any temporary agreement on US fiscal issues would not substantially change the ratings outlook; a 'grand bargain' is necessary for the US rating- Calls on authorities to come to a long term deal to stabilize the debt to GDP ratio in order to affirm rating - A lasting deal needs revenue gains and spending cuts - Notes that the US cannot grow out of fiscal issues }- Affirms that going off the fiscal cliff would not automatically lead to a downgrade
01[15:20] {Threei}  every shmack has an opinion
01[15:21] {Threei}  (GR) ECB said to have denied it will broaden collateral for Greece ELA; collateral eligibility not changed
01[15:21] {Threei}  oops... no pencil receipts
[15:21] {cc_8} Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT) CEO Steve Ballmer told French daily Le Parisien that sales of the company's first tablet "are starting modestly." .
[15:21] {Will49} olive crop is safe
[15:22] {cc_8} Shares of beaten down biotech name Dendreon (NASDAQ: DNDN) are higher during Monday's trading session after the stock was initiated at Needham with a Buy rating.
01[15:22] {Threei}  modestly eh
01[15:22] {Threei}  euphemism for "no one wants our tablet"
[15:22] {cc_8} Shares of beaten down retailer Best Buy (NYSE: BBY) are higher on Monday after the company named retired Williams-Sonoma (NYSE: WSM) executive Sharon McCollam as its new chief financial officer
[15:28] {Les} If ever you were curious - the origins of Duff beer
[15:28] {Les} http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/duff-mckagan-the-man-who-went-from-guns-n-roses-to-accountancy-8304984.html
01[15:28] {Threei}  I am only urious why no single trade works after lunch
01[15:29] {Threei}  curious
[15:29] {Les} urious works for me
[15:30] {Will49} urious=pissed off
[15:30] {thomcbell} and he went from almost dying from drugs to one who treats his body like a temple
[15:30] {Les} curious/furious... good one will
[15:30] {Will49} :)
[15:31] {Les} RAI is 15 min bubble breaker to the downside
[15:31] {Will49} is that good?
[15:31] {Les} at .68 it returned inside BB's
[15:31] {Les} like a rubber band Will, stretched in the drop from .80. It 'snapped back'
[15:32] {Les} whether it holds and drops again....?
[15:32] {Will49} i see
[15:32] {Will49} i think
[15:32] {Will49} therefore i am
01[15:34] {Threei}  grrr
[15:34] {Will49} grrr=pissed off
[15:34] {Les} hehehe
[15:34] {Will49} kidding Vad
01[15:34] {Threei}  lol
01[15:35] {Threei}  last try for today
01[15:35] {Threei} Short Setup: JCP  18 break
01[15:35] {Threei}  If holds  .10 
01[15:41] {Threei}  wtf
01[15:45] {Threei}  die JCP
01[15:49] {Threei}  holding by fingertips
01[15:51] {Threei}  Magnitude 6.0 quake reported in the Gulf of Alaska
[15:51] {Will49} OK everybody...take the rest of the day off :)
01[15:51] {Threei}  9 min
[15:51] {Les} it's coming for you next Vad
01[15:51] {Threei}  and unfinished trade
[15:52] {Will49} I'm ducking and covering
01[15:52] {Threei}  well, this one actually moved farther from us
[15:52] {Will49} earthquake training
[15:52] {Will49} :)
01[15:52] {Threei}  previous one was farily close
01[15:52] {Threei}  new low
[15:52] {Les} one, two, three, four, make sure you've locked your doooor.
01[15:53] {Threei}  stop to .06
01[15:55] {Threei}  newer and lower low
01[15:56] {Threei}  1:1
01[15:56] {Threei}  woohooo
01[15:57] {Threei}  not too delighted, slightly negative anyway
[15:58] {Will49} TTFN guys
01[15:58] {Threei}  thank you all
[15:58] {Les} yeh good risk management control for me today. lessons well learned
01[15:58] {Threei}  have a good evening, we will get them tomorrow
[15:58] {Les} http://tinyurl.com/d3dv7mk
[15:58] {Les} damn will, too fast
[15:58] {scottie} gn
[15:58] {Les} ciao all