Wednesday, August 14, 2013

Aug 14 2013

Another day in the office - solidly profitable and boring. What else is new. While CREE, DE etc delivered some entertainment, our usual breadmakers delivered profits.

Session Time: Wed Aug 14 00:00:00 2013
[08:55] {dino} gm
01[08:55] {&Threei}  morning dino
[08:59] {dino} cree blood
[08:59] {RonS} mohawk attack?
01[08:59] {&Threei}  lowered guidance
01[08:59] {&Threei}  lol ron
01[09:00] {&Threei}  actually, rolf
01[09:00] {&Threei}  rofl
[09:01] {RonS} tepid reaction to DE beat
[09:02] {RonS} classic...$M feeling good about back to school…. Adding inventory…. Annnnd we’re going to miss 2nd half” - Macy’s release
01[09:03] {&Threei}  never ppst negative press-release withiout adding some fluff that would allow bagholders to find something to feel good about
[09:07] {+cc_9} Good morning
01[09:08] {&Threei}  cc9 :)
[09:08] {+cc_9} Airlines on the menu today ?
[09:10] {RonS} airlines trading like market expects rule of 3 w/ UPS crash being number 1...on the other hand w/ their stocks crashing yest maybe that's no. 2...
[09:16] {+cc_9} Complete chaos in Egypt today
[09:16] {+cc_9} wild figures are coming out
[09:16] {RonS} Egypt's stock exchange, banks to close on Thursday following violence, official says
[09:17] {+cc_9} public transportation closed also
[09:17] {+cc_9} Figures are 100 to 2,000 dead
[09:17] {dino} religion is ruining the world, especially over in middle east
[09:18] {RonS} next up...O sends Egypt mo' money...
01[09:19] {&Threei}  miss mubarak yet?
[09:20] {+cc_9} Its not really "aid" when the money sent comes with strings attached that forces Egypt's military to use it only to buy American weapons. That money basically comes back in the pockets of defense contractors...
[09:20] {+cc_9} (in other words, US tax payers are indirectly paying the weapons manufacturers)
[09:24] {Alexs} gm
01[09:24] {&Threei}  alex :)
[09:26] {nemo} chopped liver again
[09:26] {cipher} gm
01[09:27] {&Threei}  cipher :)
01[09:27] {&Threei}  you have unrealistic expectations... never saying hello, yet expecting to be greeted? {G}
[09:27] {dino} ssni?
01[09:27] {&Threei}  watching C for a long setup
[09:28] {+cc_9} why can't market wait till the open to rip up from its gap down...sigh
01[09:28] {&Threei}  SSNI decent earning report
01[09:28] {&Threei}  aug 1
[09:28] {nemo} why don't you get in a little earlier?
01[09:28] {&Threei}  nothing new today
[09:28] {nemo} cree on KY patrol
01[09:28] {&Threei}  graphic... lol
[09:28] {dino} filling multpile gaps, cree
[09:29] {nemo} gonna' be some bruised ankles today
[09:29] {+cc_9} DE big gap up 86, back to 84 @ open. ER play
[09:29] {bbobr} gm
01[09:29] {&Threei}  bbobr :)
[09:30] {ese} am in.....forgot the new password
01[09:30] {&Threei}  right
[09:30] {+cc_9} DE this could get a reversal back up
01[09:31] {&Threei}  C jump before giving a chance for entry
[09:32] {nemo} de should bounce by 82.80
[09:33] {+cc_9} DE beat on report, tanking
01[09:33] {&Threei} Long Setup:  GDX  .45 break
01[09:33] {&Threei}  If holds  .40
[09:34] {dino} ssni sm l .30
[09:35] {+cc_9} wow DE, decimated
01[09:35] {&Threei}  1:1
[09:35] {nemo} wow, alliteration
[09:36] {+cc_9} DE small long here
01[09:36] {&Threei}  1:2
[09:36] {robbers} Out GDX, thanks Vad.
01[09:36] {&Threei}  yw
[09:37] {+cc_9} DE guidance raised, this thing bounces
[09:37] {dino} de, corn prices drop...?
[09:37] {+cc_9} Shotting for $84+ on reversal
[09:38] {+cc_9} so far so good.
01[09:38] {&Threei} Short Setup: C  .25 break
01[09:38] {&Threei}  If holds  .32
[09:40] {+cc_9} } $83 DE
[09:41] {RonS} took ssni 24.15 to 24.60 +.45  thanks dino
01[09:41] {&Threei}  1:1 close enough
01[09:41] {&Threei}  wtg guys
[09:42] {dino} gj, yw ron
01[09:42] {&Threei}  GDX out in full
[09:43] {+cc_9} good job on GDX
[09:43] {+cc_9} DE looking for second leg to break 83.50
01[09:43] {&Threei}  ty
[09:45] {+cc_9} FB nice comeback from yesterday EOD sell-off
[09:45] {+cc_9} UAL on the other hand continues to flush
[09:45] {+cc_9} DE bids coming in
[09:46] {Alexs} what trail stop on C?
[09:46] {+cc_9} DE having trouble @ 83
01[09:46] {&Threei}  .21
[09:47] {Alexs} k
[09:47] {robbers} Out C in full, thanks.
01[09:47] {&Threei}  :)
[09:47] {dino} cree lod
[09:50] {nemo} DE probably gonna drop .50
[09:51] {+cc_9} DE unreal
[09:53] {+cc_9} DE will be trading its entire avg daily volume by 10:30AM
[09:53] {+cc_9} some dip buyers stepping in again @ 82 area
01[09:53] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .90 break
01[09:53] {&Threei}  If holds  .95
01[09:54] {&Threei}  Invalidated
01[09:56] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  28 break
01[09:56] {&Threei}  If holds  .06
[09:57] {+cc_9} DE just cant seem to hold any level
01[09:58] {&Threei}  looks like stabilized here, DE
[09:58] {+cc_9} Needs to get through 82.50 and hold that bid
[09:59] {+cc_9} #s were good, guidance was good, pre-market high pushed near $87
[09:59] {nemo} wow look how tight the indexes are
[09:59] {dino} whining about corn crop, fwiw
[09:59] {dino} de sm l .30
01[09:59] {&Threei}  no go GDX
[10:00] {dino} cree .60 wall, trigger imo
[10:00] {+cc_9} DE repeating same pattern as earlier $83 wall, now 82.50 wall
[10:02] {+cc_9} IF DE was near daily highs, I would understand the drop...but its not
01[10:05] {&Threei} Long Setup:  BBRY  .20 break
01[10:05] {&Threei}  If holds  .15
01[10:05] {&Threei}  (can't believe I am calling this POS long, lol)
[10:06] {+cc_9} out DE, what a piece of crap
[10:06] {+cc_9} will reload if another bounce over $82
[10:06] {nemo} not if you were short
01[10:07] {&Threei}  and it's immediately proving that it is POS
[10:07] {Alexs} lol
[10:07] {+cc_9} i wonder how DE would have traded had they reported an earnings loss and lower guidance...
[10:07] {nemo} they would have been up
[10:09] {+cc_9} stop loss triggers, stock double bottoms
[10:09] {+cc_9} blah...
[10:11] {RonS} only 1 block trade in de thus far...
[10:13] {+cc_9} in 45 minutes, DE traded its entire avg daily volume
[10:14] {+cc_9} cant even get through 82, what a damn shame
[10:14] {+cc_9} id like to revisit the long side, but all this volume and no confidence....
01[10:14] {&Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .05 break
01[10:15] {&Threei}  If holds  25
[10:17] {+cc_9} DE bids falling, too close to LOD
01[10:17] {&Threei}  looks very breakdownish
[10:18] {+cc_9} the pop early near 83 was its biggest chance for a reversal as it brought it more bounce players
[10:18] {+cc_9} its gonna take some time now
[10:19] {+cc_9} will get back in 82
[10:19] {+cc_9} back in DE
01[10:20] {&Threei}  need SPY to lose .20
01[10:21] {&Threei}  oh boy... what a beautiful e-mail I've got
01[10:21] {&Threei}  exceeds all I quoted before
01[10:21] {&Threei}  wait till we are clear of trades and market activity dies down, you'll love this one
01[10:21] {&Threei}  meh TZA
[10:23] {+cc_9} ok DE....lets get this bounce going
[10:24] {nemo} 82.60 ish might be the limit
[10:24] {dino} cc9 target de?
[10:24] {dino} thinking 83
[10:24] {nemo} yep possible, would take some off at .60
[10:25] {+cc_9} I'm still aiming for $84
[10:25] {+cc_9} i know...crazy
[10:25] {+cc_9} but in all reality, the #s were solid and so was the guidance, i cannot find anything about this drop
[10:25] {dino} i can see that too
[10:25] {nemo} I hear that solvent rational quote going through my head
[10:25] {+cc_9} As I said, this drop would have made sense if the stock was trading near daily highs and today we see profit taking, but that was not the case.
[10:26] {nemo} nice grammar there 9
[10:27] {+cc_9} were*
[10:27] {+cc_9} w/e
[10:27] {+cc_9} DE 82.80s
01[10:27] {&Threei}  we're
[10:27] {nemo} no..."As I said"
[10:27] {+cc_9} pushing $83 at last
[10:28] {+cc_9} Moment of truth, $83 was a major wall
01[10:30] {&Threei} Long Setup:  MCD  .10 break
01[10:30] {&Threei}  If holds  96
01[10:30] {&Threei}  aggressive for .20
[10:30] {+cc_9} DE can't see a slowdown here, need 83.20
[10:31] {+cc_9} come on....
[10:32] {+cc_9} damn it , how many times does it need to test 83
[10:32] {nemo} that's it, back down
[10:32] {nemo} double top short setup
[10:32] {nemo} has to hold here vwap and support
[10:33] {+cc_9} that drop from 83 was on tiny volume...go figure.
[10:33] {nemo} interesting...price resistance but technical at 34 ema on 3 min
[10:34] {+cc_9} one desk is buying, another is dumping
[10:34] {nemo} spy holding under vwap,  needs to hold above daily pivot or we likely test 169
[10:36] {nemo} wow gdx running
[10:36] {+cc_9} meanwhile IWM has a nice range
[10:37] {+cc_9} 104.22 - 104.52 so far
[10:37] {nemo} a whole .38 cents
[10:38] {+cc_9} which translates to a nice $0.50 on TNA
[10:38] {RonS} DE:  "Analysts believe past quarter marked peak of current farm cycle"
[10:39] {+cc_9} Not in Brazil.
01[10:40] {&Threei}  come on MCD
01[10:40] {&Threei}  break and run
01[10:40] {&Threei}  so we could flip you
01[10:40] {&Threei}  (yeah, I borrowed cc9's horrible joke)
01[10:40] {&Threei}  (because mine are even worse)
[10:41] {nemo} here comes the 169 test, which means we'll bounce, because you gotta' turn around at 69
01[10:41] {&Threei}  what is it, contest of bad jokes?
[10:42] {RonS} ...there is worse and there is worser...
01[10:42] {&Threei}  because if it is, I'll be a judge
[10:42] {nemo} no...I would never think of challenging you Vad
01[10:42] {&Threei}  right
[10:42] {+cc_9} DE catching some bids, slowly, volume drying up for now (avg daily already traded)
[10:42] {nemo} Ron, I don't think there is "worser"
01[10:42] {&Threei}  no one's joke can be worser than mine, mine are the wortstest
01[10:43] {&Threei}  come on nemo... without worser how do you get to worstest?
[10:43] {+cc_9} IWM held its intraday support
[10:43] {nemo} 104.19 yesterday's pivot
[10:44] {+cc_9} big volume IWM
[10:44] {RonS} stupid q of the day:  how is it that worsted wool is the best wool there is?
[10:44] {+cc_9} biggest volume bar since open actually
[10:44] {nemo} actually, it's some stuff made from a South American animal
01[10:45] {&Threei}  you'd think it was destined to be a winner ron... but wait for the e-mail I'll post
[10:45] {nemo} O.K, How do you catch a unique bird?
[10:45] {nemo}   U   nique up on him...
01[10:46] {&Threei}  we might have a winner...
[10:46] {nemo} any coffee spitters?
[10:46] {nemo} that was courtesy  of my long dead grandmother
[10:46] {RonS} trying to figure if that is a 2nd or 5th grade joke...
01[10:46] {&Threei}  pre-school
[10:46] {nemo} depends on whether you're in the innercity
[10:47] {RonS} lol
[10:47] {+cc_9} DE back under $82...jeez
[10:48] {+cc_9} trading as if downgrades are pouring in
01[10:48] {&Threei}  Invalidated  MCD
[10:48] {nemo} market 9
01[10:48] {&Threei}  too bad, this looked ery promising
[10:48] {+cc_9} nemo, yes, but most of the time earning plays tend to have their own moves regardless of market direction (key word : most)
[10:49] {nemo} well, if you notice, DE moved up with the spy, and then the SPY doubletopped at the same time DE did
01[10:51] {&Threei}  lol:
01[10:51] {&Threei}  ‏@TheTweetOfGod
01[10:51] {&Threei}  I'm so sick of "damning it" for you people. Damn it yourselves, damn it.
01[10:52] {&Threei}  MCD is still on a radar
[10:52] {dino} qiwi drop
01[10:52] {&Threei}  held too well during SPY drop, and that .20 break is real prize
[10:53] {+cc_9} SPY reversing, DE nada
[10:53] {nemo} nichts nyet null zed zip
[10:56] {+cc_9} CREE death grind in full effect
01[10:56] {&Threei}  Attention:  MCD  is valid again
[10:57] {+cc_9} DE turning into an investment
[10:57] {ese} ok ...that was an interesting morning......vad i've been by your house via the highway twice.....5:30 am and just now7:00am....first to take the family to the airport and then go out again because they forgot there i'ds.....they wouldn't let them on the 7:00am flight to Calgary
01[10:58] {&Threei}  wow
[10:58] {ese} got rebooked on the 9 though....should have stopped in for coffee
01[10:58] {&Threei}  can't believe you made it in time
01[10:58] {&Threei}  oh, I see
01[10:59] {&Threei}  not sure about coffee at that time though {G}
01[10:59] {&Threei}  vodka is more likely as it doesn't require preparation time
[10:59] {+cc_9} The TSLA bubble slowly bursting if anyone still tracking this .com
[11:00] {nemo} DE can't get above VWAP
[11:00] {ese} you make strong coffee....i coulda used it
01[11:00] {&Threei}  come on SPY
[11:00] {ese} ok well trading day feels shot.....have no sense of whats going on at this time
[11:11] {+cc_9} DE flat lining
[11:15] {+cc_9} DUST 60min is one scary chart
01[11:16] {&Threei}  1:1q
01[11:16] {&Threei}  now break and run
[11:20] {+cc_9} SPY going, DE stuck
01[11:23] {&Threei}  junk food wprks for us, slowly but surely
01[11:24] {&Threei}  I actually regret not going aggressive on aggressive - buying 96
[11:27] {robbers} Out MCD in full, thank you.
01[11:27] {&Threei}  yw
01[11:27] {&Threei}  not fooling around, are you :)
[11:28] {robbers} As usual.
01[11:29] {&Threei}  ok, while MCD is chewing through levels back and forth...
[11:29] {+cc_9} DE .40s ? no way...
[11:29] {+cc_9} DE .50s ? no way...
01[11:29] {&Threei}  beginning of the e-mail is pretty much a cookie-cutter, nothing oustanding:
01[11:30] {&Threei}  Vad,
01[11:30] {&Threei}  I am 23. I have watched your free videos, read your logs and posts with trades. I really want to learn from u. So here are my questions.
01[11:30] {&Threei}  right?
01[11:30] {&Threei}  hold on to your seats as you read second paragraph
01[11:30] {&Threei}  How do I become room moderator? Where do I need to start to open my trading room? How do I know what stock to call? At what prices? Long or short?
[11:31] {+cc_9} DE .60s, this cant be...
[11:31] {RonS} lol 3i
[11:31] {dino} guess he's taking over
[11:31] {RonS} guy must really be 13...
01[11:32] {&Threei}  I wrote an asnwer but decided not to send it
01[11:32] {&Threei}  so I'll just post it here
01[11:32] {&Threei}  I understand your frustration. I too was shocked when found out that I can’t teach brain surgery without becoming a surgeon myself first. Such an unexpected obstacle. Bummers.
[11:33] {robbers} I think it was Ken Wolf in disguise.
01[11:33] {&Threei}  gosh... that's blast from the past, lol
[11:33] {+cc_9} Refer him to Timothy Sykes so he can learn all he needs to learn first
[11:34] {+cc_9} DE .70s, slow climb
01[11:35] {&Threei}  I am not sure if this is just an individual with serious lack of grey matter, or indicative of a certain culture
01[11:36] {&Threei}  after all, I see "life coaches" created in drives by courses about life coaching
[11:36] {robbers} Yeah, the culture of stupidity.
01[11:36] {&Threei}  never mind that you know zilch about life, you can take a course and become life coach
[11:36] {+cc_9} DE closing in on the wall
01[11:37] {&Threei}  I knew a gal who was going tp teach weight loss... guess whether she was overweight
01[11:37] {&Threei}  but hey, she read 15 books about weight loss
01[11:37] {&Threei}  so why not teach others
[11:38] {robbers} My brother was a marriage councelor without having been married.  And it cured him of any thoughts to do so.
[11:38] {dino} if you can't do it, teach (or write about) it
[11:38] {RonS} lol
01[11:38] {&Threei}  another plan by another gal was to teach people how to get anything they want by applying some spiritual tricks
[11:40] {+cc_9} Did she co-write the book "The Secret" ?
01[11:40] {&Threei}  when I asked her what she was going to answer those who ask why she meets them in 3rd floor apartment of half-wrecked building with 13 yearsd old honda civic in the parking lot, she said:
01[11:40] {&Threei}  well, I am happy with what I have and need nothing more
01[11:40] {&Threei}  no, she read it (or watched movie)
[11:40] {RonS} Henry Ford:  "Those that can, do;  those that can't, teach." (ese can, does, and teaches...what a prince!)
01[11:41] {&Threei}  well, I actually disagree with that saying
01[11:41] {&Threei}  but I see how it's applicable in these particular cases
01[11:41] {&Threei}  1:2 MCD
[11:41] {dino} out de .65, +.35
[11:42] {+cc_9} gj dino
[11:42] {+cc_9} got an offer pending .75 rest will ride out till $84+ or LOD stop
[11:42] {dino} thx. pia stock
[11:43] {+cc_9} agreed...
[11:44] {+cc_9} good exit dino, the .70s got denied
[11:44] {dino} cccr crazy ipo
[11:45] {+cc_9} you mean ccccrazy ipo
[11:45] {bbobr} most of trading coaches, teachers, book writers  have no idea how to trade profitable , including Marc Douglas and other famous
[11:46] {+cc_9} The one strategy that those books are missing is "buy low sell high"
01[11:46] {&Threei}  my experience and multiple encounters with them show this to be true
01[11:46] {&Threei}  what bbobr said I mean
01[11:46] {&Threei}  very few are actually traders
[11:46] {RonS} Kerry has “very frank” talk with Netanyahu about settlements in occupied territories
[11:47] {dino} out cree .00, +.40 took forever
01[11:47] {&Threei}  but when it comes to marketing ability, I am 9 years old among them, so... {G}
01[11:47] {&Threei}  they promise more or less easy money, I promise hard work
[11:47] {RonS} ...which begs the question:  how many centuries ago were the French very frank?...
01[11:47] {&Threei}  who do you think is more popular :)
[11:49] {+cc_9} dino, CCCR half the float already traded
[11:50] {bbobr} their promises match people's dreams better then your's
[11:51] {+cc_9} anyone tracking/trading MNKD today, some very nice swings
[11:52] {+cc_9} decent intraday double bottom
[11:54] {+cc_9} "Egypt's death toll increases to 149, health ministry says - Egyptian president declares state of emergency across Egypt for 1 month starting at 4pm local time
01[11:55] {&Threei}  true bbobr... my promises match reality, and who needs that
[11:59] {dino} ssni sm l .00
[12:00] {RonS} Egypt's VP Mohammed ElBaradei resigns from government over handling of sit-ins...what you mean killing them is not OK w/ him?
[12:00] {dino} trip drop
[12:00] {+cc_9} Bloomberg "Europe officially out of recession"
[12:07] {+cc_9} SPY very choppy here, no clear direction
01[12:08] {&Threei}  Europe: yaay....
[12:08] {+cc_9} meanwhile, DE trying to uptick, wall still .75 then 83 round
[12:12] {+cc_9} SPY uptick, DE downtick. meh...
[12:14] {RonS} trip 'ed
[12:21] {nemo} I thought you needed two quarters of positive growth to be out of recession?
[12:22] {+cc_9} SPY chop central
[12:22] {nemo} it's been consistently under MA today, probably going lower
[12:23] {Alexs} CREE long .20?
[12:23] {nemo} likely to get closer to the whole number, vwap there
[12:25] {+cc_9} $0.15 down, $0.10 up wash rinse repeat
[12:28] {+cc_9} DE not participating in this market bounce, frustrating
[12:31] {+cc_9} Just now looked @ AAPL...no comment
[12:31] {dino} htwr sm l .05
[12:31] {dino} trip hl l .55
[12:32] {+cc_9} Well of course DE does not go up with market bounce, but surely does with pullback
[12:32] {nemo} pair trading ;-)
[12:32] {nemo} looks short here btw
01[12:34] {&Threei}  sorry Alex, missed your q
[12:36] {nemo} http://read.bi/18v3H3E
[12:37] {dino} out trip .64, +.14
[13:16] {+cc_9} DE now holding sideways while market dipping, I'm thinking DE gets through 83 before the bell
01[13:29] {&Threei}  (US) Fed's Bullard: Fed is doing what it can to aid the US recovery
01[13:30] {&Threei}  market saud uhhu and dropped like a stone'
[13:30] {+cc_9} whoa dumpathon
[13:33] {dino} cree l .45
[13:35] {dino} out cree .60, +.15
[13:52] {dino} de l .05
01[13:56] {&Threei} Short Setup: BBRY  .90 break
01[13:56] {&Threei}  If holds  .95
[14:02] {dino} out de .35, +.30
[14:03] {+cc_9} IWM major lag behind SPY
[14:13] {dino} cree l .13
[14:18] {dino} out cree .24, +.11
[14:19] {nemo} whoa
[14:25] {nemo} think I'll get some velcro for my eyelids
01[14:26] {&Threei}  ugh
01[14:26] {&Threei}  wanted to call CREE short but never got decent tight setup
[14:26] {nemo}  did you get an indecent one?
01[14:26] {&Threei}  a lot
01[14:28] {&Threei}  (US) Fed's Bullard: Fed is doing what it can to aid the US recovery; inflation has not appeared so far- There is a lot of risk in the future of higher inflation, Fed must maintain its credibility and hit the 2% inflation target it set for itself. - Actual GDP growth has not been that great in the last 3 quarters. Not seeing much impact from the sequester. - Too big to fail issue remains a large problem, US needs to think about making banks smaller so a failure does not require taxpayer intervention. - Unemployment, inflation, GDP and the size of the balance sheet are the key factors for taper decision. - Size of Fed balance sheet is not too big compared to those of other central banks. - QE program has not had a large impact on the USD thus far, on a trade weighted basis. - Japan is taking risks with its new economic policies. Japan is conducting a huge experiment with monetary policy.
[14:28] {nemo} obesity is relative
[14:30] {dino} cree l .88
[14:30] {nemo} I've got support at .66
[14:31] {+cc_9} Why do I keep reading Fed's Bulltard
[14:32] {nemo} like driving by a horrific accident
[14:35] {+cc_9} IWM flushing to new session lows, ahead of the SPY
01[14:36] {&Threei}  cognitive associations cc9
[14:36] {nemo} finnies seem to have a venereal drip
[14:36] {dino} razor blades
[14:36] {nemo} rather graphic for you dino
[14:37] {dino} you put the thought in my head
[14:37] {nemo} yeah, blame the degenerate why don't ya'!!!
[14:39] {+cc_9} SPY catching bids, held its lows
[14:39] {+cc_9} anyone brave enough to call the close on SPY ?
[14:39] {dino} out cree .04, +.16
[14:39] {+cc_9} today's seesaw makes it near impossible to have a single read on this tape
[14:40] {nemo} green
[14:40] {dino} good to hear cc9, i thought it was me, thats why scalp mode
[14:41] {+cc_9} cant read it, volume pours in, we snap back $0.20, next minute we flip and tank $0.30
[14:41] {+cc_9} Add to it the volume @ around 1:30PM
[14:42] {nemo} they're forcing you to take a position in middle distance, which is always a recipe for failure
[14:43] {+cc_9} I don't see we see much buying unless we can get over 169.30, anything below is chart noise
[14:43] {+cc_9} Not long ago, AAPL used to dictate market direction
[14:44] {nemo} algos will move it according to order flow
[14:44] {+cc_9} stocktwits indicator is bearish on SPY, so it would make sense that we head higher
[14:45] {nemo} if they're leaning short in this low volume, algos should push against it
01[14:45] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .80 break
01[14:45] {&Threei}  If holds  .75
[14:47] {nemo} spy should get vwap run here
[14:47] {+cc_9} Initiate first buy program in 5, 4, 3, 2...
[14:47] {+cc_9} lift off
[14:47] {nemo} I just wanna' know where your destruct button is
[14:48] {+cc_9} right on time
[14:48] {nemo} I know..."nemo, you're such a dick!"
[14:49] {nemo} did you install the dilithium crystals CC?
[14:50] {nemo} I"m losing it
[14:50] {nemo} I feel like Jack in the Shining
[14:50] {+cc_9} $VIX / VXX still too close to session highs
[14:51] {+cc_9} $IWM so many dead cat bounces should rename $ASPCA
[14:52] {+cc_9} 1 hour on the clock, still no direction
[14:53] {nemo} http://bit.ly/17pT6WG
[14:54] {nemo} http://bit.ly/17pTmEZ
[14:54] {+cc_9} IWM @ session lows again...boy this is one long afternoon
[14:56] {nemo} .66 held in cree....actually .69, then it turned around
[14:56] {dino} cree ranging .80-.10
[14:57] {nemo} I have a low of .69
[14:57] {dino} \.10 goes it may pop
[14:57] {nemo} wow, a higher low
[14:58] {dino} issue is that gap 58.40s
01[14:59] {&Threei}  Egypt is now back in the state of emergency that started during the reign of Ramses II
[15:00] {+cc_9} Most boring 1.5 hours on SPY for days
[15:02] {+cc_9} IWM looks spookie at this level. Lower highs and Lower lows. SPY higher lows. Tough read.
01[15:03] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CREE  .80 break hl
[15:03] {nemo} i've got short signals on finnies and IWM can't tell SPY
01[15:03] {&Threei}  If holds  .70
[15:04] {+cc_9} Indexes almost feel like a long trap
[15:05] {nemo} double top on spy at price resistance
01[15:09] {&Threei}  IMO, spu is about to break 169
[15:10] {+cc_9} it needs to break 169.10 and stay above it
[15:10] {+cc_9} otherwise, more chop and waste of time
01[15:10] {&Threei}  no go CREE
[15:11] {nemo} next stop 58.88, probably 59 if it doesn't bounce here
[15:11] {+cc_9} 169 knock knock
[15:12] {nemo} need a vwap run
[15:12] {dino} adding cree call for swing
[15:13] {+cc_9} alright, lets push SPY here
01[15:13] {&Threei}  1:1
[15:16] {+cc_9} out
[15:27] {+cc_9} TRIP
01[15:29] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .75 break
01[15:29] {&Threei}  If holds  .70
[15:29] {nemo} one could make an argument to buy cree here for short covering
01[15:31] {&Threei}  one could also grab the nest of wasps with his bare hands and see how they like it
[15:32] {+cc_9} SKBI who the hell is buying this garbage
01[15:32] {&Threei}  look at its report
01[15:32] {&Threei}  Skystar Bio-Pharmaceutical Co Reports Q2 $0.49 v $0.23 y/y, R$11.3M v $8.9M y/y- Reaffirms FY13 Rev $40-45M (prior $40-45M)
[15:33] {+cc_9} oh
[15:34] {dino} cree close to gap
[15:34] {+cc_9} IWM session lows
01[15:34] {&Threei}  volume about 10% below 3 months ave
01[15:36] {&Threei}  change C to .70 break
01[15:37] {&Threei}  If holds  .65
[15:37] {nemo} so cree just about closes another gap
01[15:38] {&Threei}  Invalidated
[15:38] {+cc_9} DUST officially down 50% in 1 week
[15:38] {dino} close enough imo
[15:38] {+cc_9} bargain prices became basement prices and now turning into sink hole prices
[15:39] {+cc_9} Another shot at 169 before the close ?
01[15:42] {&Threei}  last try:
01[15:42] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .65 break
01[15:42] {&Threei}  If holds  .60
01[15:42] {&Threei}  oh well
01[15:42] {&Threei}  we have another "boring but profitable" day
01[15:43] {&Threei}  if you have enough buffer for one 5 cents stop, let's try C .60 break
01[15:43] {&Threei}  if not, leave it be
[15:43] {+cc_9} i got another SPY long trade going here
[15:43] {+cc_9} need 169 thats all
[15:48] {+cc_9} welp
01[15:49] {&Threei}  1:1
01[15:49] {&Threei}  hakf out
01[15:49] {&Threei}  scalpers be happy
[15:51] {nemo} Haven't seen a day like this since....mmmmhhhhh....last August
[15:51] {+cc_9} most are expecting an LOD close, so the algos need to turn on and start buying right here
[15:52] {nemo} they'll go against order flow, might not be any right now
[15:52] {nemo} basically pinned to a deviation around 169
[15:53] {+cc_9} Its been selling since 3:10PM
[15:53] {nemo} or just lack of bidding, don't see any momentum at all
01[15:53] {&Threei}  OK guys, thank you all
01[15:53] {&Threei}  have a good evening
[15:53] {+cc_9} IWM dropping @ a much faster rate
01[15:53] {&Threei}  see you tomorrow foranother boring and profitable day
[15:53] {nemo} pivot levels gonna' be tighter than (insert comparison here)
[15:53] {nemo} tomorrow
[15:57] {dino} gn all
[15:59] {+cc_9} SPY EOD volume nightmare



Tuesday, August 13, 2013

Aug 13 2103

About flat to slightly positive day, as decent morning was followed by scalp/stop pattern.


Session Time: Tue Aug 13 00:00:00 2013

[08:48] {dino} gm
01[08:49] {&Threei}  morning dino
[08:50] {nemo} I suppose I'm chopped liver
01[08:57] {&Threei}  hmm?
[09:20] {nemo} anybody ever watch the old cable tv show "Deadwood"?
[09:20] {dino} yes
[09:21] {nemo} Yeah, I started watching it...really excellent
[09:22] {dino} good show
01[09:25] {&Threei}  ASTM halt
[09:25] {cipher} gm
01[09:26] {&Threei}  cipher :)
[09:26] {RonS} hello
01[09:26] {&Threei}  ron :)
[09:28] {bbobr} gm
01[09:29] {&Threei}  bbobr :)
[09:29] {Alexs} gm
01[09:29] {&Threei}  alex :)
01[09:29] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .75 break
01[09:29] {&Threei}  If holds  .85
[09:31] {RonS} sm L val 66.10
01[09:32] {&Threei}  stop to .81
01[09:33] {&Threei}  ha;f out
01[09:33] {&Threei}  stop to .76
01[09:34] {&Threei}  1:2
01[09:34] {&Threei}  1/4 more out
[09:34] {dino} oww hl l .43
01[09:35] {&Threei}  that painful?
01[09:35] {&Threei}  1"3
01[09:35] {&Threei}  out in full
[09:39] {+cc_9} at last GDX
[09:39] {dino} oww stop .33 -.10
01[09:40] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .15 breal
01[09:40] {&Threei}  If holds  .05
01[09:42] {&Threei}  change to .10 break
01[09:43] {&Threei}  If holds  51
01[09:44] {&Threei}  1:1
01[09:44] {&Threei}  stop to .04
01[09:46] {&Threei}  to .09 now
[09:46] {+cc_9} IWM reversal
[09:47] {+cc_9} IWM weaker than SPY today fwiw
[09:50] {dino} ihs
[09:55] {dino} cst hl s .37
01[09:56] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .70 break
01[09:57] {&Threei}  half out
01[09:57] {&Threei}  stop .76
01[10:00] {&Threei}  *(US) JUN BUSINESS INVENTORIES: 0.0% V 0.2%E
[10:00] {dino} ihs sm l .30
01[10:03] {&Threei}  (US) Analyst note yesterday broke the embargo on Jackson Hole agenda (Aug 22-24) - financial press- Tier-1 firm analyst comments that the agenda does not feature speeches from any major fed officials, which will likely mean markets will pay less attention to the symposium than it has in the past.
[10:04] {dino} good
01[10:04] {&Threei}  lol
[10:05] {+cc_9} market falling off a cliff
[10:06] {dino} cov cst .97, +.40
01[10:07] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .95 break
01[10:07] {&Threei}  If holds  .90
01[10:10] {&Threei}  meh
[10:11] {+cc_9} SPY 168.75 = reversal in indexes
[10:11] {Alexs} GDX stop .71 now?
[10:11] {+cc_9} Lets see if catchs a bid
[10:12] {+cc_9} & 104.10 on IWM
[10:19] {dino} htwr sm l av .71, thinny
01[10:20] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .60 break hl
01[10:20] {&Threei}  If holds  .50
01[10:21] {&Threei}  any SPY help, easy 1:3er, maybe more
[10:23] {dino} dal drop
01[10:23] {&Threei}  1:1
[10:24] {dino} dal l .25 trig
01[10:24] {&Threei}  that's all?
01[10:24] {&Threei}  oh well
01[10:25] {&Threei}  dino, had your morning pain passed?
01[10:26] {&Threei} Long Setup:  TNA  .20 break hl
01[10:26] {&Threei}  If holds  .10
[10:26] {dino} out dal .80, +.55
01[10:27] {&Threei}  wtg
01[10:28] {&Threei}  .25 break should catapult it
[10:29] {dino} out htwr .21, +.50
01[10:30] {&Threei}  no go
[10:30] {dino} out ihs 108.94 +1.64
01[10:31] {&Threei} Long Setup:  BBY  .45 break
[10:31] {dino} ahh, c'mon...
01[10:31] {&Threei}  [10:27] {&Threei} wtg
[10:32] {dino} they were 3 nice hits, .55, .50, 1.64
01[10:32] {&Threei}  they were
01[10:32] {&Threei}  but we are still sympathetic to that pain you experienced during first trades...
01[10:32] {&Threei}  you started two posts with "oww..."
[10:33] {dino} lol, i couldn't figure that out...
01[10:33] {&Threei}  {GGG}
01[10:34] {&Threei}  I really want to see a stock with symbol OUCH
01[10:34] {&Threei}  that would be a riot
01[10:34] {&Threei}  there was one named DURA... made all russian-speaking laugh
01[10:35] {&Threei}  BBY stop is .39 btw
[10:35] {dino} gass drop
[10:35] {dino} thats a funny one
01[10:35] {&Threei}  hehe
[10:35] {dino} lol, its called stealth gas
01[10:36] {&Threei}  oh boy
[10:36] {dino} silent but deadly i guess
[10:36] {RonS} omg the co name is funnier...stealth gas...
01[10:36] {&Threei}  it's getting better by minute
[10:36] {dino} builders getting nailed
[10:38] {+cc_9} SPY stuck @ range, needs to break that 168.75
01[10:38] {&Threei}  it should
01[10:41] {&Threei}  there you go
01[10:46] {&Threei}  goingshort, look pm pls
[10:46] {+cc_9} IWM major lag behind
[10:46] {+cc_9} stuck @ 104.2/3, needs 104.10
01[10:46] {&Threei}  SPY doesn't show much determination
01[10:47] {&Threei}  moves up haltingly
[10:51] {+cc_9} still think it gets back to yesterday's close
[10:51] {+cc_9} 169.10
[10:55] {+cc_9} any news?
[10:55] {+cc_9} lots of volume/chatter, other than the fed rates, not finding much
01[10:56] {&Threei}  nothing concrete
01[10:56] {&Threei}  more and mopre about taper happening, and soon
01[10:56] {&Threei}  volume is 13% under 3-months average
[10:57] {+cc_9} VXX has not moved much on this SPY drop either
[10:58] {RonS} curious as to why you pay any attention to the vxx?
[10:59] {+cc_9} To gauge volatility
[11:00] {RonS} then why not the vix since it is current
[11:00] {+cc_9} if VXX spiked up on this latest market drop, then people were hedging/betting against the market.
[11:01] {RonS} since the vxx is an average of all futures contracts how can it be a gauge of anything? is it not more important what is happening to specific contracts?
[11:01] {+cc_9} Over the long run there is a clear discrepancy, for intraday, the liquidity/prints on it are slightly clearer than VIX$
[11:02] {+cc_9} IWM back to 10:40s highs, SPY lagging now
[11:02] {RonS} just saying that a derivative of a derivative is really sketchy...imo
[11:05] {RonS} imo if you want a relatively real time reading on the vix futures for all months you should start wacthing the "Sonar Report" daily presentation from the floor of the CBOE via the Optionmonster website
[11:05] {dino} dal drop again
01[11:06] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .80 breal
[11:06] {RonS} they identify majot vix futures trades and trends and what the trader is likely trying to accomplish...
01[11:06] {&Threei}  If holds  .70
[11:06] {Alexs} hl CAT?
01[11:08] {&Threei}  narrowqed down enough for full lot IMO
[11:08] {dino} dal hl l .20
01[11:08] {&Threei}  say, 3/4?
[11:09] {Alexs} k
[11:09] {+cc_9} Ron, that is correct and I agree. From a liquidity point of view, it is still an indicator, maybe not as accurate as the underlying $VIX
01[11:13] {&Threei}  ok kitty, let's do it this time, don't be a scalp
01[11:13] {&Threei}  be a good cat and move like real feline
01[11:13] {&Threei}  1:1
[11:13] {+cc_9} SPY/IWM both at intraday tops, wall needs to break
01[11:13] {&Threei}  tbell, look dcc pls
01[11:15] {&Threei}  oh come on
01[11:15] {&Threei}  second time, just a scalp
[11:17] {+cc_9} SPY }} http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4067/ob7w.jpg
[11:17] {dino} out dal .44, +.24
[11:17] {nemo} jpm looks short
[11:18] {+cc_9} Looking for an intraday top break and a tgt of yesterday's close (full reversal)
[11:21] {+cc_9} There goes SPY
[11:21] {+cc_9} $0.20 to go.
[11:21] {+cc_9} IWm now lagging, still not through 104.10
[11:25] {+cc_9} great reversal
[11:26] {+cc_9} UAL tanking
[11:27] {dino} wathing them
[11:27] {dino} watching
01[11:27] {&Threei} Long Setup:  GDX  .50 break
[11:28] {dino} taking a break
01[11:28] {&Threei}  If holds  .44
[11:29] {+cc_9} SPY $0.10 from target
[11:29] {+cc_9} monster turn around
01[11:30] {&Threei}  meh
[11:30] {nemo} indexes bottom between 10:30 and 11:00 every day
[11:32] {+cc_9} SPY full blown reversal to its closing price yesterday of 169.10 (call made earlier)
[11:32] {+cc_9} Trader out.
[11:32] {nemo} gdx ready to go here
01[11:32] {&Threei}  friking CAT
01[11:33] {&Threei}  turned twice into merely a scalp, then moved higher
[11:36] {+cc_9} UAL slight double bottom dino
[11:36] {RonS} the bots are all over the airlines...pure pulp
[11:38] {dino} missed it, microwaving soup
[11:38] {RonS} gonna go on all day...
[11:38] {dino} luv held well in relation to dal, ual
[11:38] {RonS} feds squashing the aa us air merger...
[11:39] {dino} which will keep capacity
01[11:39] {&Threei}  come on dino, freeze that soup and gnaw at frozen cubes all day, not to leave the computer
[11:39] {RonS} lol
01[11:40] {&Threei} Long Setup:  WMT  .70 break
01[11:40] {&Threei}  If holds  .60
[11:41] {dino} i've found i make (and keep) more cash when I trade less
[11:41] {dino} used to average 15+ trades/day, trying to keep it under 9
01[11:42] {&Threei}  best line from the article about weight loss I've ever seen: You aren’t going to get the butt you want by sitting on the one you have
[11:43] {+cc_9} initial target on market reversal was 169.10 on SPY, it hit 169.09 on the nose before fading again
[11:43] {+cc_9} UAL fighting hard to put a bottom
[11:43] {dino} reminds me of the wife who asked hubby for boob job, he said rub tp on them, it worked for your ass
01[11:43] {&Threei}  lol
01[11:44] {&Threei}  I am not convinced on UAL...
01[11:44] {&Threei}  low volume bounce
01[11:44] {&Threei}  can easily break down again
[11:44] {dino} slightly higher low, but missing the higher hi
[11:45] {+cc_9} agreed, needs about 31.15 for convincing turn around (UAL)
[11:46] {dino} the progresso and chuncky soups are under-rated. they make a great lunch
[11:47] {+cc_9} UAL some volume
[11:47] {nemo} I like Progresso
[11:47] {nemo} btw fas looks short here
[11:47] {+cc_9} 350k+ on last 1min
01[11:49] {&Threei}  starts looking better, UAL
[11:51] {+cc_9} chatter/activity, no price action (UAL)
01[11:54] {&Threei}  no go
[11:54] {dino} triangle forming
[11:54] {+cc_9} another volume spike UAL on 1min
[11:55] {+cc_9} 380k+
[11:56] {+cc_9} UAL through 31.15
[11:56] {nemo} well, that short now looking iffy
[11:56] {dino} anybody get it?
[11:57] {nemo} iwm and spy reclaimed their daily pivots, so perhaps FAS has to also
[11:58] {+cc_9} UAL reversing at last
01[12:04] {&Threei}  watching MCD for dive and reversal
01[12:04] {&Threei}  want long entry
[12:06] {+cc_9} you mean you want MCD for a flip
[12:06] {+cc_9} heh...my best joke for the day, shameful
01[12:07] {&Threei}  congratulations cc9... you did impossible
[12:07] {nemo} funny as a rubber crutch
01[12:07] {&Threei}  made a joke worse than mine
01[12:07] {&Threei}  that's qiote an accomplishment
[12:07] {nemo} o fer crissakes Vad, Les' were the worst
01[12:07] {&Threei}  quite
[12:07] {+cc_9} pls add another + near my name
[12:07] {nemo} Oh Vad, about my nick...
01[12:08] {&Threei}  din't know nemo... problem is, les didn't view thwm as jokes {G}
[12:08] {+cc_9} UAL back to $31 if anyone looking for a reload
01[12:09] {&Threei}  leave that nick alone... database rebuilding keeps everyone busy enough to deal woth your caprices
[12:09] {nemo} wow, nice word
[12:10] {nemo} becoming quite sesquepadalian there Vad
06[12:10] * &Threei takes a bow
[12:11] {RonS} did that give him webbed feet?
[12:12] {dino} ual sm l .01
01[12:12] {&Threei}  being sesquepadalian?
[12:12] {nemo} standard Ukranian feature
[12:15] {+cc_9} UAL decent second bounce off $31
[12:18] {+cc_9} aaaaaaaaaaaand SPY green :)
01[12:19] {&Threei}  crap... .40 was it for MCD
[12:22] {dino} out ual .26, +.25
[12:22] {RonS} gj
[12:25] {dino} ty
01[12:26] {&Threei} Long Setup:  MCD  .50 break
01[12:26] {&Threei}  If holds  .40
[12:31] {+cc_9} funny how when market was melting, stocktwits was full of "told you it would crash!"
[12:31] {+cc_9} now they are magically long
[12:31] {+cc_9} lol cant get enough of that
01[12:31] {&Threei}  1:1
01[12:32] {&Threei}  I enjoy this "we all are winners" chorus for years
01[12:32] {&Threei}  a lot of people guess, then losers remain silent and winners scream on top of their lungs
01[12:32] {&Threei}  market reverses, thwe other side yells, while first one suts up
[12:33] {+cc_9} lol
01[12:33] {&Threei}  so it's like they win all the time
01[12:33] {&Threei}  on one forum there is a guy who makes the same call every year, around the same time:
01[12:34] {&Threei}  earnign season starts, it all tha matters for the nmarket, and it's not going to be pretty, I am short
01[12:34] {&Threei}  every year market goes up, he is nowhere to be seen, then he pops up a year later with the same call
01[12:34] {&Threei}  5 years in a row
[12:36] {+cc_9} when was making bullish calls on the market earlier @ the drop, everyone and their second cousin was screaming "this is the top, we go down from here"
01[12:37] {&Threei}  then there are those "bull market geniuses"
[12:37] {+cc_9} now that market is back where we left off yesterday "was a good time to buy SPY calls on that drop!"
01[12:37] {&Threei}  that make a name by repeating bullish calls during bull market, and continue doing that after market reverses...
01[12:37] {&Threei}  anyone remember the name Chhetah?
01[12:37] {&Threei}  1998 - 2000 hero
[12:37] {+cc_9} theoptiondon Aug. 13 at 10:10 AM $SPY 168 puts @ .61
[12:38] {+cc_9} theoptiondon Aug. 13 at 12:31 PM this market is totally irrational. cant get proper footing in either direction $SPY
[12:38] {+cc_9} this is just an example
01[12:38] {&Threei}  repeated gis "buy any pillback" all the way down after market reversed its tech boom
01[12:39] {&Threei}  one trick ponies...
[12:40] {dino} cheetah girls, yes
[12:40] {+cc_9} UAL back under $31
[12:40] {+cc_9} flag /  pennant forming on 2min
[12:43] {+cc_9} closing in on that 30.70s intraday support
01[12:44] {&Threei}  (US) Fed's Lockhart (moderate, FOMC non-voter): Any change in QE should be a cautious first step
[12:47] {+cc_9} i.e no change
01[12:48] {&Threei}  - There will not likely be enough data on hand by September to be able to map a full phase-out of QE purchases. - Recent data does not paint a clear picture of the economy. Uneven economic data keeps the Fed from offering specific guidance. - US economy should pick up in the second half of 2013, with stronger consumer spending and housing
01[12:48] {&Threei}  (US) PIMCO's El-Erian: Risk markets are treading water and getting tired; major uncertainties ahead include debt ceiling, taper, new Fed chairman, European elections
[12:49] {+cc_9} UAL .70s support so far working
01[12:49] {&Threei}  speaking of next fed chairman, summers' name sounds more and more often
[12:50] {RonS} "getting tired" makes me crazy...pure pablum
01[12:50] {&Threei}  A soft breakfast cereal for infants?
[12:50] {+cc_9} UAL like clockwork
[12:51] {+cc_9} UAL Chart }}} http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5688/yomk.jpg
[12:51] {+cc_9} 12:44 cc_9 closing in on that 30.70s intraday support
[12:52] {+cc_9} FWIW, the market bounced 130 points from lows
[12:57] {Alexs} BBRY .94 long?
01[12:58] {&Threei}  I'd prefer to catch reversal on a deeper pullback
01[12:58] {&Threei}  like this
01[12:58] {&Threei}  dive under .80, getting intereasted in recross entry
[12:58] {Alexs} k
[12:59] {nemo} did you mean "pabulum"  or "pablum"?
[13:01] {RonS} Trite, insipid, or simplistic writing, speech, or conceptualization...pablum
[13:01] {Alexs} LCC .45?
[13:01] {nemo} look up pabulum
01[13:02] {&Threei}  LCC looks nice... late
[13:02] {dino} you guys are determined to educate me
[13:02] {RonS} already did...
[13:02] {nemo} wish you were Les, had a great insult
[13:02] {nemo} yeah, same words
[13:02] {nemo} same meaning
[13:02] {nemo} same root
01[13:03] {&Threei}  I still like mine interpretation better
01[13:03] {&Threei}  soft breakfast cereal for infants
[13:05] {RonS} apropos vis fedding the unwashed public...
[13:05] {RonS} feeding
01[13:05] {&Threei}  yup
01[13:05] {&Threei}  fits the bill perfectly
01[13:06] {&Threei}  data shows retai investor is back, with vengeance
01[13:06] {&Threei}  multiple increases in money flow
[13:07] {RonS} dal acting breakdownish...3i's technical term...
01[13:07] {&Threei}  how do you think it's going to end? :)
01[13:08] {&Threei}  5 years long bull market, getting parabolic and retail investor contributions jump multifold
01[13:08] {&Threei}  same story, every friggin time
01[13:10] {&Threei}  alex, LCC gets interesting
01[13:10] {&Threei}  get ready with hl
[13:10] {Alexs} despite "Learning is not compulsory.." what's the best book on technical analysis Vad?
01[13:10] {&Threei} Long Setup:  LCC  .10 break
01[13:10] {&Threei}  If holds  17
01[13:13] {&Threei}  if you want pure TA book, classic Edwards & Magee Technical Analysis of Stock Trends is the best, just try to find early edition without third author
[13:13] {Alexs} thanks
01[13:14] {&Threei}  not sure you need such a fundamenatl work though
01[13:14] {&Threei}  I mean no one trades all the setups
01[13:15] {&Threei}  or uses all the indicators
[13:15] {+cc_9} UAL off the .70s is just clockwork...
01[13:15] {&Threei}  ok LCC, it's time
01[13:19] {&Threei}  meh
01[13:19] {&Threei}  good morning, then one on one off
[13:19] {dino} keep it simple alexs
01[13:20] {&Threei}  yeah
01[13:20] {&Threei}  get too deep into this stuff, you soon find yourself either paralyzed by endless analysis or in constant contradiction with yourself
[13:20] {Alexs} lol
01[13:21] {&Threei}  seriously... see it all the time
01[13:22] {&Threei}  stochastic says buy but OBV say sell,
01[13:22] {&Threei}  while MACD crossover is not there, but MA turn up
[13:22] {RonS} ...and nemo says kma...
01[13:22] {&Threei}  Hindenburg omen
01[13:22] {&Threei}  cross of death
01[13:23] {&Threei}  dome with 5 peaks
01[13:23] {&Threei}  ichomoku cloud
[13:23] {dino} two scoops ice cream
01[13:23] {&Threei}  fan lines
[13:23] {Alexs} lol
01[13:23] {&Threei}  the list is endless
01[13:24] {&Threei}  there are thousands on indicators, and new ones are being invented daily
01[13:24] {&Threei}  who cares, basics remain uncanged and work for decades if not \centuries
[13:28] {nemo} what I say?
01[13:28] {&Threei}  ?
[13:28] {+cc_9} UAL updated chart from earlier (.70s still working) : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6637/r83q.jpg
[13:43] {dino} things have slowed dwn
[13:45] {dino} calling it a day, very good one. thx all for ideas
[13:46] {+cc_9} take it easy dino
[13:46] {dino} u2 buddy
01[13:47] {&Threei}  take care dino
[13:50] {+cc_9} UAL one of the best patterns so far today, holding a perfect intraday support each time for a solid trade.
[13:53] {+cc_9} @ highest pps since 11:00AM ET
[13:54] {RonS} pps?
[13:54] {+cc_9} price per share
[13:55] {+cc_9} aka price.
[13:56] {RonS} furious volume in LLC over 30% of float already traded...
[13:56] {+cc_9} UAL updated chart }}} http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3365/0ck5.jpg
[13:56] {+cc_9} you mean LCC ?
[13:57] {RonS} ya
[14:00] {+cc_9} JBLU ahead of the bunch
[14:02] {+cc_9} Done for today, 3 main trades : DUST on GDX drop @ open. TNA on IWM reversal (traded once), UAL off 30.70s support (traded twice)
01[14:13] {&Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .90 break
01[14:14] {&Threei}  If holds  .85
01[14:18] {&Threei}  database restoration seems to be over, room is closed now to unregistered nick
01[14:18] {&Threei}  if next time you connect and can't, it means nemo sneaked in and crossed your name off the list
[14:18] {~KSystems} :)
[14:22] {RonS} aapl rip
[14:23] {Alexs} MU .80 break?
[14:23] {RonS} icahn in aapl
[14:24] {+cc_9} Looks good for a short
[14:24] {+cc_9} down to 481
[14:27] {+cc_9} { 481, good hype trade
[14:28] {+cc_9} https://twitter.com/Carl_C_Icahn
[14:28] {+cc_9} "Some people get rich studying artificial intelligence. Me, I make money studying natural stupidity."
01[14:29] {&Threei}  yeah, loved it
[14:30] {nemo} phewww, was I worried:  http://bit.ly/15Akoqk
01[14:33] {&Threei}  in TZA
[14:39] {+cc_9} with 1 tweet from Ichan, AAPL gains near $10B in market cap..
[14:39] {nemo} any interesting options movement recently in aapl
[14:45] {+cc_9} LCC tanked to session lows
01[14:47] {&Threei}  half out
01[14:49] {&Threei}  stop to .89
01[14:50] {&Threei}  be back in 10
[15:01] {+cc_9} LCC trying here
[15:08] {+cc_9} FB dumping
01[15:19] {&Threei}  ONXX Pfizer now said to have exited the bidding process for the company, following Novartis earlier - financial press
01[15:21] {&Threei}  here is how desperation looks:
01[15:21] {&Threei}  BlackBerry Discloses introduces new super social BlackBerry 9720 smartphone (update)- Designed for a premium look and available in a variety of vibrant colors, the new BlackBerry 9720 smartphone takes everything youd get from a starter smartphone to the next level, and comes packed with of all of your favorite social apps to let you spark the conversation.
01[15:22] {&Threei}  long list of great new features, then ends with this:
01[15:22] {&Threei}  Beginning in the coming weeks, the new BlackBerry 9720 smartphone will be available in select markets from retailers and carriers in Asia, EMEA and Latin America
01[15:24] {&Threei}  BBRY is almost ready for bounce
01[15:24] {&Threei}  watching
[15:25] {Alexs} LCC short .50?
01[15:26] {&Threei}  yup
01[15:28] {&Threei} Long Setup:  BBRY  .30 break
01[15:28] {&Threei}  If holds  .25
01[15:30] {&Threei}  change to .25 break
01[15:30] {&Threei}  If holds  .20
01[15:32] {&Threei}  change to .20 break
01[15:32] {&Threei}  If holds  .15
[15:35] {+cc_9} Adding UAL/FB to watch list for tomorrow
01[15:37] {&Threei}  ok BBRY... before you sail into sunset, we still need to get some money off you. So breaks that .25 and run
01[15:40] {&Threei}  sone of a motherless goat
[15:43] {nemo} interesting, IWM and SPY basically at weekly pivots
01[15:43] {&Threei}  LCC finally broke down
01[15:44] {&Threei}  not sure there is time and room for it to work
[15:44] {Alexs} missed it
01[15:44] {&Threei}  but good spot nonetheless
01[15:44] {&Threei}  that's OK, I am not sure it's worth it at this point in time
[15:46] {nemo} serious volume spike in finnies and spy
[15:46] {+cc_9} better to wait for tomorrow to get some nice trades on the airlines
01[15:48] {&Threei}  wow
01[15:48] {&Threei}  BBRY
[15:48] {nemo} http://bo.st/1eHAXGu
01[15:48] {&Threei}  thank god for small stops
01[15:48] {&Threei}  as name implies, they stop your losses
[15:52] {+cc_9} Some buyers stepping in FB EOD
[15:52] {Alexs} LCC worked nicely
01[15:52] {&Threei}  yes
01[15:54] {&Threei}  ok guys, thank you all
01[15:54] {&Threei}  have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:54] {+cc_9} cya

Session Time: Tue Aug 13 00:00:00 2013

[08:48] {dino} gm
01[08:49] {&Threei}  morning dino
[08:50] {nemo} I suppose I'm chopped liver
01[08:57] {&Threei}  hmm?
[09:20] {nemo} anybody ever watch the old cable tv show "Deadwood"?
[09:20] {dino} yes
[09:21] {nemo} Yeah, I started watching it...really excellent
[09:22] {dino} good show
01[09:25] {&Threei}  ASTM halt
[09:25] {cipher} gm
01[09:26] {&Threei}  cipher :)
[09:26] {RonS} hello
01[09:26] {&Threei}  ron :)
[09:28] {bbobr} gm
01[09:29] {&Threei}  bbobr :)
[09:29] {Alexs} gm
01[09:29] {&Threei}  alex :)
01[09:29] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .75 break
01[09:29] {&Threei}  If holds  .85 
[09:31] {RonS} sm L val 66.10
01[09:32] {&Threei}  stop to .81
01[09:33] {&Threei}  ha;f out
01[09:33] {&Threei}  stop to .76
01[09:34] {&Threei}  1:2
01[09:34] {&Threei}  1/4 more out
[09:34] {dino} oww hl l .43
01[09:35] {&Threei}  that painful?
01[09:35] {&Threei}  1"3
01[09:35] {&Threei}  out in full
[09:39] {+cc_9} at last GDX
[09:39] {dino} oww stop .33 -.10
01[09:40] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .15 breal
01[09:40] {&Threei}  If holds  .05 
01[09:42] {&Threei}  change to .10 break
01[09:43] {&Threei}  If holds  51 
01[09:44] {&Threei}  1:1
01[09:44] {&Threei}  stop to .04
01[09:46] {&Threei}  to .09 now
[09:46] {+cc_9} IWM reversal
[09:47] {+cc_9} IWM weaker than SPY today fwiw
[09:50] {dino} ihs
[09:55] {dino} cst hl s .37
01[09:56] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .70 break
01[09:57] {&Threei}  half out
01[09:57] {&Threei}  stop .76
01[10:00] {&Threei}  *(US) JUN BUSINESS INVENTORIES: 0.0% V 0.2%E
[10:00] {dino} ihs sm l .30
01[10:03] {&Threei}  (US) Analyst note yesterday broke the embargo on Jackson Hole agenda (Aug 22-24) - financial press- Tier-1 firm analyst comments that the agenda does not feature speeches from any major fed officials, which will likely mean markets will pay less attention to the symposium than it has in the past.
[10:04] {dino} good
01[10:04] {&Threei}  lol
[10:05] {+cc_9} market falling off a cliff
[10:06] {dino} cov cst .97, +.40
01[10:07] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .95 break
01[10:07] {&Threei}  If holds  .90 
01[10:10] {&Threei}  meh
[10:11] {+cc_9} SPY 168.75 = reversal in indexes
[10:11] {Alexs} GDX stop .71 now?
[10:11] {+cc_9} Lets see if catchs a bid
[10:12] {+cc_9} & 104.10 on IWM
[10:19] {dino} htwr sm l av .71, thinny
01[10:20] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .60 break hl
01[10:20] {&Threei}  If holds  .50 
01[10:21] {&Threei}  any SPY help, easy 1:3er, maybe more
[10:23] {dino} dal drop
01[10:23] {&Threei}  1:1
[10:24] {dino} dal l .25 trig
01[10:24] {&Threei}  that's all?
01[10:24] {&Threei}  oh well
01[10:25] {&Threei}  dino, had your morning pain passed?
01[10:26] {&Threei} Long Setup:  TNA  .20 break hl
01[10:26] {&Threei}  If holds  .10 
[10:26] {dino} out dal .80, +.55
01[10:27] {&Threei}  wtg
01[10:28] {&Threei}  .25 break should catapult it
[10:29] {dino} out htwr .21, +.50
01[10:30] {&Threei}  no go
[10:30] {dino} out ihs 108.94 +1.64
01[10:31] {&Threei} Long Setup:  BBY  .45 break
[10:31] {dino} ahh, c'mon...
01[10:31] {&Threei}  [10:27] {&Threei} wtg
[10:32] {dino} they were 3 nice hits, .55, .50, 1.64
01[10:32] {&Threei}  they were
01[10:32] {&Threei}  but we are still sympathetic to that pain you experienced during first trades...
01[10:32] {&Threei}  you started two posts with "oww..."
[10:33] {dino} lol, i couldn't figure that out...
01[10:33] {&Threei}  {GGG}
01[10:34] {&Threei}  I really want to see a stock with symbol OUCH
01[10:34] {&Threei}  that would be a riot
01[10:34] {&Threei}  there was one named DURA... made all russian-speaking laugh
01[10:35] {&Threei}  BBY stop is .39 btw
[10:35] {dino} gass drop
[10:35] {dino} thats a funny one
01[10:35] {&Threei}  hehe
[10:35] {dino} lol, its called stealth gas
01[10:36] {&Threei}  oh boy
[10:36] {dino} silent but deadly i guess
[10:36] {RonS} omg the co name is funnier...stealth gas...
01[10:36] {&Threei}  it's getting better by minute
[10:36] {dino} builders getting nailed
[10:38] {+cc_9} SPY stuck @ range, needs to break that 168.75
01[10:38] {&Threei}  it should
01[10:41] {&Threei}  there you go
01[10:46] {&Threei}  goingshort, look pm pls
[10:46] {+cc_9} IWM major lag behind
[10:46] {+cc_9} stuck @ 104.2/3, needs 104.10
01[10:46] {&Threei}  SPY doesn't show much determination
01[10:47] {&Threei}  moves up haltingly
[10:51] {+cc_9} still think it gets back to yesterday's close
[10:51] {+cc_9} 169.10
[10:55] {+cc_9} any news?
[10:55] {+cc_9} lots of volume/chatter, other than the fed rates, not finding much
01[10:56] {&Threei}  nothing concrete
01[10:56] {&Threei}  more and mopre about taper happening, and soon
01[10:56] {&Threei}  volume is 13% under 3-months average
[10:57] {+cc_9} VXX has not moved much on this SPY drop either
[10:58] {RonS} curious as to why you pay any attention to the vxx?
[10:59] {+cc_9} To gauge volatility
[11:00] {RonS} then why not the vix since it is current
[11:00] {+cc_9} if VXX spiked up on this latest market drop, then people were hedging/betting against the market.
[11:01] {RonS} since the vxx is an average of all futures contracts how can it be a gauge of anything? is it not more important what is happening to specific contracts?
[11:01] {+cc_9} Over the long run there is a clear discrepancy, for intraday, the liquidity/prints on it are slightly clearer than VIX$
[11:02] {+cc_9} IWM back to 10:40s highs, SPY lagging now
[11:02] {RonS} just saying that a derivative of a derivative is really sketchy...imo
[11:05] {RonS} imo if you want a relatively real time reading on the vix futures for all months you should start wacthing the "Sonar Report" daily presentation from the floor of the CBOE via the Optionmonster website
[11:05] {dino} dal drop again
01[11:06] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .80 breal
[11:06] {RonS} they identify majot vix futures trades and trends and what the trader is likely trying to accomplish...
01[11:06] {&Threei}  If holds  .70 
[11:06] {Alexs} hl CAT?
01[11:08] {&Threei}  narrowqed down enough for full lot IMO
[11:08] {dino} dal hl l .20
01[11:08] {&Threei}  say, 3/4?
[11:09] {Alexs} k
[11:09] {+cc_9} Ron, that is correct and I agree. From a liquidity point of view, it is still an indicator, maybe not as accurate as the underlying $VIX
01[11:13] {&Threei}  ok kitty, let's do it this time, don't be a scalp
01[11:13] {&Threei}  be a good cat and move like real feline
01[11:13] {&Threei}  1:1
[11:13] {+cc_9} SPY/IWM both at intraday tops, wall needs to break 
01[11:13] {&Threei}  tbell, look dcc pls
01[11:15] {&Threei}  oh come on
01[11:15] {&Threei}  second time, just a scalp
[11:17] {+cc_9} SPY }} http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4067/ob7w.jpg
[11:17] {dino} out dal .44, +.24
[11:17] {nemo} jpm looks short
[11:18] {+cc_9} Looking for an intraday top break and a tgt of yesterday's close (full reversal)
[11:21] {+cc_9} There goes SPY
[11:21] {+cc_9} $0.20 to go.
[11:21] {+cc_9} IWm now lagging, still not through 104.10
[11:25] {+cc_9} great reversal
[11:26] {+cc_9} UAL tanking
[11:27] {dino} wathing them
[11:27] {dino} watching
01[11:27] {&Threei} Long Setup:  GDX  .50 break
[11:28] {dino} taking a break
01[11:28] {&Threei}  If holds  .44 
[11:29] {+cc_9} SPY $0.10 from target
[11:29] {+cc_9} monster turn around 
01[11:30] {&Threei}  meh
[11:30] {nemo} indexes bottom between 10:30 and 11:00 every day
[11:32] {+cc_9} SPY full blown reversal to its closing price yesterday of 169.10 (call made earlier)
[11:32] {+cc_9} Trader out.
[11:32] {nemo} gdx ready to go here
01[11:32] {&Threei}  friking CAT
01[11:33] {&Threei}  turned twice into merely a scalp, then moved higher
[11:36] {+cc_9} UAL slight double bottom dino
[11:36] {RonS} the bots are all over the airlines...pure pulp
[11:38] {dino} missed it, microwaving soup
[11:38] {RonS} gonna go on all day...
[11:38] {dino} luv held well in relation to dal, ual
[11:38] {RonS} feds squashing the aa us air merger...
[11:39] {dino} which will keep capacity
01[11:39] {&Threei}  come on dino, freeze that soup and gnaw at frozen cubes all day, not to leave the computer
[11:39] {RonS} lol
01[11:40] {&Threei} Long Setup:  WMT  .70 break
01[11:40] {&Threei}  If holds  .60 
[11:41] {dino} i've found i make (and keep) more cash when I trade less
[11:41] {dino} used to average 15+ trades/day, trying to keep it under 9
01[11:42] {&Threei}  best line from the article about weight loss I've ever seen: You aren’t going to get the butt you want by sitting on the one you have
[11:43] {+cc_9} initial target on market reversal was 169.10 on SPY, it hit 169.09 on the nose before fading again
[11:43] {+cc_9} UAL fighting hard to put a bottom
[11:43] {dino} reminds me of the wife who asked hubby for boob job, he said rub tp on them, it worked for your ass
01[11:43] {&Threei}  lol
01[11:44] {&Threei}  I am not convinced on UAL...
01[11:44] {&Threei}  low volume bounce
01[11:44] {&Threei}  can easily break down again
[11:44] {dino} slightly higher low, but missing the higher hi
[11:45] {+cc_9} agreed, needs about 31.15 for convincing turn around (UAL)
[11:46] {dino} the progresso and chuncky soups are under-rated. they make a great lunch
[11:47] {+cc_9} UAL some volume
[11:47] {nemo} I like Progresso
[11:47] {nemo} btw fas looks short here
[11:47] {+cc_9} 350k+ on last 1min
01[11:49] {&Threei}  starts looking better, UAL
[11:51] {+cc_9} chatter/activity, no price action (UAL)
01[11:54] {&Threei}  no go
[11:54] {dino} triangle forming
[11:54] {+cc_9} another volume spike UAL on 1min
[11:55] {+cc_9} 380k+
[11:56] {+cc_9} UAL through 31.15
[11:56] {nemo} well, that short now looking iffy
[11:56] {dino} anybody get it?
[11:57] {nemo} iwm and spy reclaimed their daily pivots, so perhaps FAS has to also
[11:58] {+cc_9} UAL reversing at last
01[12:04] {&Threei}  watching MCD for dive and reversal
01[12:04] {&Threei}  want long entry
[12:06] {+cc_9} you mean you want MCD for a flip
[12:06] {+cc_9} heh...my best joke for the day, shameful
01[12:07] {&Threei}  congratulations cc9... you did impossible
[12:07] {nemo} funny as a rubber crutch
01[12:07] {&Threei}  made a joke worse than mine
01[12:07] {&Threei}  that's qiote an accomplishment
[12:07] {nemo} o fer crissakes Vad, Les' were the worst
01[12:07] {&Threei}  quite
[12:07] {+cc_9} pls add another + near my name
[12:07] {nemo} Oh Vad, about my nick...
01[12:08] {&Threei}  din't know nemo... problem is, les didn't view thwm as jokes {G}
[12:08] {+cc_9} UAL back to $31 if anyone looking for a reload
01[12:09] {&Threei}  leave that nick alone... database rebuilding keeps everyone busy enough to deal woth your caprices
[12:09] {nemo} wow, nice word
[12:10] {nemo} becoming quite sesquepadalian there Vad
06[12:10] * &Threei takes a bow
[12:11] {RonS} did that give him webbed feet?
[12:12] {dino} ual sm l .01
01[12:12] {&Threei}  being sesquepadalian?
[12:12] {nemo} standard Ukranian feature
[12:15] {+cc_9} UAL decent second bounce off $31
[12:18] {+cc_9} aaaaaaaaaaaand SPY green :)
01[12:19] {&Threei}  crap... .40 was it for MCD
[12:22] {dino} out ual .26, +.25
[12:22] {RonS} gj
[12:25] {dino} ty
01[12:26] {&Threei} Long Setup:  MCD  .50 break
01[12:26] {&Threei}  If holds  .40 
[12:31] {+cc_9} funny how when market was melting, stocktwits was full of "told you it would crash!"
[12:31] {+cc_9} now they are magically long
[12:31] {+cc_9} lol cant get enough of that
01[12:31] {&Threei}  1:1
01[12:32] {&Threei}  I enjoy this "we all are winners" chorus for years
01[12:32] {&Threei}  a lot of people guess, then losers remain silent and winners scream on top of their lungs
01[12:32] {&Threei}  market reverses, thwe other side yells, while first one suts up
[12:33] {+cc_9} lol
01[12:33] {&Threei}  so it's like they win all the time
01[12:33] {&Threei}  on one forum there is a guy who makes the same call every year, around the same time:
01[12:34] {&Threei}  earnign season starts, it all tha matters for the nmarket, and it's not going to be pretty, I am short
01[12:34] {&Threei}  every year market goes up, he is nowhere to be seen, then he pops up a year later with the same call
01[12:34] {&Threei}  5 years in a row
[12:36] {+cc_9} when was making bullish calls on the market earlier @ the drop, everyone and their second cousin was screaming "this is the top, we go down from here"
01[12:37] {&Threei}  then there are those "bull market geniuses"
[12:37] {+cc_9} now that market is back where we left off yesterday "was a good time to buy SPY calls on that drop!"
01[12:37] {&Threei}  that make a name by repeating bullish calls during bull market, and continue doing that after market reverses...
01[12:37] {&Threei}  anyone remember the name Chhetah?
01[12:37] {&Threei}  1998 - 2000 hero
[12:37] {+cc_9} theoptiondon Aug. 13 at 10:10 AM $SPY 168 puts @ .61 
[12:38] {+cc_9} theoptiondon Aug. 13 at 12:31 PM this market is totally irrational. cant get proper footing in either direction $SPY
[12:38] {+cc_9} this is just an example
01[12:38] {&Threei}  repeated gis "buy any pillback" all the way down after market reversed its tech boom
01[12:39] {&Threei}  one trick ponies...
[12:40] {dino} cheetah girls, yes
[12:40] {+cc_9} UAL back under $31
[12:40] {+cc_9} flag /  pennant forming on 2min 
[12:43] {+cc_9} closing in on that 30.70s intraday support
01[12:44] {&Threei}  (US) Fed's Lockhart (moderate, FOMC non-voter): Any change in QE should be a cautious first step
[12:47] {+cc_9} i.e no change
01[12:48] {&Threei}  - There will not likely be enough data on hand by September to be able to map a full phase-out of QE purchases. - Recent data does not paint a clear picture of the economy. Uneven economic data keeps the Fed from offering specific guidance. - US economy should pick up in the second half of 2013, with stronger consumer spending and housing
01[12:48] {&Threei}  (US) PIMCO's El-Erian: Risk markets are treading water and getting tired; major uncertainties ahead include debt ceiling, taper, new Fed chairman, European elections
[12:49] {+cc_9} UAL .70s support so far working 
01[12:49] {&Threei}  speaking of next fed chairman, summers' name sounds more and more often
[12:50] {RonS} "getting tired" makes me crazy...pure pablum
01[12:50] {&Threei}  A soft breakfast cereal for infants?
[12:50] {+cc_9} UAL like clockwork
[12:51] {+cc_9} UAL Chart }}} http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5688/yomk.jpg
[12:51] {+cc_9} 12:44 cc_9 closing in on that 30.70s intraday support
[12:52] {+cc_9} FWIW, the market bounced 130 points from lows
[12:57] {Alexs} BBRY .94 long?
01[12:58] {&Threei}  I'd prefer to catch reversal on a deeper pullback
01[12:58] {&Threei}  like this
01[12:58] {&Threei}  dive under .80, getting intereasted in recross entry
[12:58] {Alexs} k
[12:59] {nemo} did you mean "pabulum"  or "pablum"?
[13:01] {RonS} Trite, insipid, or simplistic writing, speech, or conceptualization...pablum
[13:01] {Alexs} LCC .45?
[13:01] {nemo} look up pabulum
01[13:02] {&Threei}  LCC looks nice... late
[13:02] {dino} you guys are determined to educate me
[13:02] {RonS} already did...
[13:02] {nemo} wish you were Les, had a great insult
[13:02] {nemo} yeah, same words
[13:02] {nemo} same meaning
[13:02] {nemo} same root
01[13:03] {&Threei}  I still like mine interpretation better
01[13:03] {&Threei}  soft breakfast cereal for infants
[13:05] {RonS} apropos vis fedding the unwashed public...
[13:05] {RonS} feeding
01[13:05] {&Threei}  yup
01[13:05] {&Threei}  fits the bill perfectly
01[13:06] {&Threei}  data shows retai investor is back, with vengeance
01[13:06] {&Threei}  multiple increases in money flow
[13:07] {RonS} dal acting breakdownish...3i's technical term...
01[13:07] {&Threei}  how do you think it's going to end? :)
01[13:08] {&Threei}  5 years long bull market, getting parabolic and retail investor contributions jump multifold
01[13:08] {&Threei}  same story, every friggin time
01[13:10] {&Threei}  alex, LCC gets interesting
01[13:10] {&Threei}  get ready with hl
[13:10] {Alexs} despite "Learning is not compulsory.." what's the best book on technical analysis Vad?
01[13:10] {&Threei} Long Setup:  LCC  .10 break
01[13:10] {&Threei}  If holds  17 
01[13:13] {&Threei}  if you want pure TA book, classic Edwards & Magee Technical Analysis of Stock Trends is the best, just try to find early edition without third author
[13:13] {Alexs} thanks
01[13:14] {&Threei}  not sure you need such a fundamenatl work though
01[13:14] {&Threei}  I mean no one trades all the setups
01[13:15] {&Threei}  or uses all the indicators
[13:15] {+cc_9} UAL off the .70s is just clockwork...
01[13:15] {&Threei}  ok LCC, it's time
01[13:19] {&Threei}  meh
01[13:19] {&Threei}  good morning, then one on one off
[13:19] {dino} keep it simple alexs
01[13:20] {&Threei}  yeah
01[13:20] {&Threei}  get too deep into this stuff, you soon find yourself either paralyzed by endless analysis or in constant contradiction with yourself
[13:20] {Alexs} lol
01[13:21] {&Threei}  seriously... see it all the time
01[13:22] {&Threei}  stochastic says buy but OBV say sell,
01[13:22] {&Threei}  while MACD crossover is not there, but MA turn up
[13:22] {RonS} ...and nemo says kma...
01[13:22] {&Threei}  Hindenburg omen
01[13:22] {&Threei}  cross of death
01[13:23] {&Threei}  dome with 5 peaks
01[13:23] {&Threei}  ichomoku cloud
[13:23] {dino} two scoops ice cream
01[13:23] {&Threei}  fan lines
[13:23] {Alexs} lol
01[13:23] {&Threei}  the list is endless
01[13:24] {&Threei}  there are thousands on indicators, and new ones are being invented daily
01[13:24] {&Threei}  who cares, basics remain uncanged and work for decades if not \centuries
[13:28] {nemo} what I say?
01[13:28] {&Threei}  ?
[13:28] {+cc_9} UAL updated chart from earlier (.70s still working) : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6637/r83q.jpg
[13:43] {dino} things have slowed dwn
[13:45] {dino} calling it a day, very good one. thx all for ideas
[13:46] {+cc_9} take it easy dino
[13:46] {dino} u2 buddy
01[13:47] {&Threei}  take care dino
[13:50] {+cc_9} UAL one of the best patterns so far today, holding a perfect intraday support each time for a solid trade.
[13:53] {+cc_9} @ highest pps since 11:00AM ET
[13:54] {RonS} pps?
[13:54] {+cc_9} price per share
[13:55] {+cc_9} aka price.
[13:56] {RonS} furious volume in LLC over 30% of float already traded...
[13:56] {+cc_9} UAL updated chart }}} http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3365/0ck5.jpg
[13:56] {+cc_9} you mean LCC ?
[13:57] {RonS} ya
[14:00] {+cc_9} JBLU ahead of the bunch
[14:02] {+cc_9} Done for today, 3 main trades : DUST on GDX drop @ open. TNA on IWM reversal (traded once), UAL off 30.70s support (traded twice)
01[14:13] {&Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .90 break
01[14:14] {&Threei}  If holds  .85 
01[14:18] {&Threei}  database restoration seems to be over, room is closed now to unregistered nick
01[14:18] {&Threei}  if next time you connect and can't, it means nemo sneaked in and crossed your name off the list
[14:18] {~KSystems} :)
[14:22] {RonS} aapl rip
[14:23] {Alexs} MU .80 break?
[14:23] {RonS} icahn in aapl
[14:24] {+cc_9} Looks good for a short
[14:24] {+cc_9} down to 481
[14:27] {+cc_9} { 481, good hype trade
[14:28] {+cc_9} https://twitter.com/Carl_C_Icahn
[14:28] {+cc_9} "Some people get rich studying artificial intelligence. Me, I make money studying natural stupidity."
01[14:29] {&Threei}  yeah, loved it
[14:30] {nemo} phewww, was I worried:  http://bit.ly/15Akoqk
01[14:33] {&Threei}  in TZA
[14:39] {+cc_9} with 1 tweet from Ichan, AAPL gains near $10B in market cap..
[14:39] {nemo} any interesting options movement recently in aapl
[14:45] {+cc_9} LCC tanked to session lows
01[14:47] {&Threei}  half out
01[14:49] {&Threei}  stop to .89
01[14:50] {&Threei}  be back in 10
[15:01] {+cc_9} LCC trying here
[15:08] {+cc_9} FB dumping
01[15:19] {&Threei}  ONXX Pfizer now said to have exited the bidding process for the company, following Novartis earlier - financial press
01[15:21] {&Threei}  here is how desperation looks:
01[15:21] {&Threei}  BlackBerry Discloses introduces new super social BlackBerry 9720 smartphone (update)- Designed for a premium look and available in a variety of vibrant colors, the new BlackBerry 9720 smartphone takes everything youd get from a starter smartphone to the next level, and comes packed with of all of your favorite social apps to let you spark the conversation.
01[15:22] {&Threei}  long list of great new features, then ends with this:
01[15:22] {&Threei}  Beginning in the coming weeks, the new BlackBerry 9720 smartphone will be available in select markets from retailers and carriers in Asia, EMEA and Latin America
01[15:24] {&Threei}  BBRY is almost ready for bounce
01[15:24] {&Threei}  watching
[15:25] {Alexs} LCC short .50?
01[15:26] {&Threei}  yup
01[15:28] {&Threei} Long Setup:  BBRY  .30 break
01[15:28] {&Threei}  If holds  .25 
01[15:30] {&Threei}  change to .25 break
01[15:30] {&Threei}  If holds  .20 
01[15:32] {&Threei}  change to .20 break
01[15:32] {&Threei}  If holds  .15 
[15:35] {+cc_9} Adding UAL/FB to watch list for tomorrow
01[15:37] {&Threei}  ok BBRY... before you sail into sunset, we still need to get some money off you. So breaks that .25 and run
01[15:40] {&Threei}  sone of a motherless goat
[15:43] {nemo} interesting, IWM and SPY basically at weekly pivots
01[15:43] {&Threei}  LCC finally broke down
01[15:44] {&Threei}  not sure there is time and room for it to work
[15:44] {Alexs} missed it
01[15:44] {&Threei}  but good spot nonetheless
01[15:44] {&Threei}  that's OK, I am not sure it's worth it at this point in time
[15:46] {nemo} serious volume spike in finnies and spy
[15:46] {+cc_9} better to wait for tomorrow to get some nice trades on the airlines
01[15:48] {&Threei}  wow
01[15:48] {&Threei}  BBRY
[15:48] {nemo} http://bo.st/1eHAXGu
01[15:48] {&Threei}  thank god for small stops
01[15:48] {&Threei}  as name implies, they stop your losses
[15:52] {+cc_9} Some buyers stepping in FB EOD
[15:52] {Alexs} LCC worked nicely
01[15:52] {&Threei}  yes
01[15:54] {&Threei}  ok guys, thank you all
01[15:54] {&Threei}  have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:54] {+cc_9} cya

Monday, August 12, 2013

Aug 12 2013

Fairly decent day even though second half was lackluster. Also, tech hell is finally over and our main room is fully back up.


Session Start: Mon Aug 12 08:52:29 2013

[09:02] {nemo} I wanna' change my nick
01[09:04] {Threei}  you are obsessed
[09:04] {dino} gm
01[09:04] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:04] {nemo} bored
[09:04] {nemo} I don't want to be me anymore
[09:26] {Alexs} gm
01[09:26] {Threei}  alex :)
01[09:28] {Threei}  - The German press reported that the Bundesbank expects creditors will have to agree on new Greece bailout in early 2014.
01[09:28] {Threei}  sounds about right
01[09:28] {Threei}  looks l,ike folks now are confused which room to join
[09:31] {nemo} techno darwinism
01[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .70 break
01[09:32] {Threei}  If holds  .75
01[09:32] {Threei}  1:1
[09:38] {dino} .
01[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: IWM  .90 break
01[09:39] {Threei}  If holds  104
01[09:40] {Threei}  change to 104 break
01[09:41] {Threei}  change to .15 break break
01[09:41] {Threei}  If holds  .21
01[09:44] {Threei}  grrr... 1 vent to 1:1
01[09:44] {Threei}  cent
[09:45] {dino} har hl s .14
[09:48] {dino} cov har .80, +.34
[09:49] {robbers} wtg.
01[09:49] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .85 break
[09:50] {dino} ty
01[09:50] {Threei}  If holds  .95
[09:50] {cc_9} over extended GDX
[09:53] {nemo} not really, just above R2
[09:53] {nemo} 27.68 is Weekly R1
01[09:54] {Threei}  die GDX... nice double top
01[09:56] {Threei}  Ron... _ is not necessary :)
[09:57] {dino} snts drop
01[09:57] {Threei}  finally
01[09:57] {Threei}  1:1
[09:58] {cc_9} needs to get below 27.60 for a nice flush
[09:58] {robbers} Out in full, thanks.
01[09:58] {Threei}  yw
[09:58] {cc_9} Bloomberg trader "there is a run on gold physical"
01[09:59] {Threei}  idiot
[10:02] {cc_9} GDX trying to hold that 27.70 intraday support
[10:02] {nemo} the persistence algo I use has not a single stock on the weak side
[10:04] {cc_9} nemo, Trade-Ideas ?
[10:05] {nemo} no, friend of mine trades for Kirshner, he developed an algo they use-lets me view it
[10:05] {nemo} shows bid/offer persistence on a specific universe of stocks
[10:07] {cc_9} Miners resilient once again
[10:07] {nemo} .68 important weekly level
[10:08] {dino} col sm l .20 pulp
[10:09] {cc_9} anyone still short GDX ?
01[10:10] {Threei}  1:2
01[10:10] {Threei}  of course
[10:11] {dino} col stop .90, -.30
[10:14] {cc_9} out DUST (instead of shorting GDX, I went long DUST)
[10:14] {dino} reload col .60
[10:15] {dino} out col .20, +.60
01[10:17] {&Threei} Short Setup: IWM  .30 break
01[10:18] {&Threei}  If holds  .40
01[10:18] {&Threei}  1:1
[10:20] {cc_9} im prob gonna regret having dumped DUST at these levels, could see another $2 upside
01[10:20] {&Threei}  I still have 1/4 GDX, .76 stop
01[10:22] {&Threei}  closed
[10:23] {dino} hl s cbrx .73
[10:23] {cc_9} TSLA back to session lows
03[10:30] * Retrieving #discussions modes...
01[10:33] {&Threei}  come on SPY, break down and die
[10:35] {cc_9} I take that back, no regrets on GDX/DUST :)
01[10:35] {&Threei}  yeah
01[10:36] {&Threei}  things have hard time with contunation on a short side
[10:36] {dino} been that way for months
01[10:36] {&Threei}  and long is not really an option after such jumps, market just stalls
01[10:36] {&Threei}  yup
01[10:38] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .80 rbeak
01[10:41] {&Threei}  If holds  .85
01[10:45] {&Threei}  meh
[10:52] {nemo} gdx short signals, but it's close to vwap
[10:59] {nemo} IWM kissed the weekly pivot
[11:00] {nemo} So, Vad...can I change my nick?
01[11:00] {&Threei}  depends... to what?
[11:00] {nemo} dickhead?
[11:00] {nemo} tempting, huh?
01[11:01] {&Threei}  why would you want to leave no room for people'simagination
[11:01] {nemo} more room for shock, when I start talking nicely about animals
[11:02] {nemo} SPY gap fill, only finnies weak as they were on Friday
01[11:11] {&Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .80 break
01[11:11] {&Threei}  If holds  .90
[11:12] {dino} apd sm l .72
01[11:14] {&Threei}  1:1
01[11:18] {&Threei}  This morning, BlackBerry announced another exploration of strategic alternatives, but this time it's likely that the board would like to try and sell the entire company before it is too late.
[11:20] {dino} ston drop
[11:21] {robbers} Out in full, thanks.
01[11:21] {&Threei}  :)
01[11:24] {&Threei}  1:2
01[11:30] {&Threei}  closed on a trail
01[11:30] {&Threei}  decent day shapes up
01[11:30] {&Threei}  still have to finish room restoration, mibbit is still down
[11:39] {nemo} CeeCee, think you can pay attention to dust here
[11:44] {dino} dust, and yo think i trade crazy
01[11:44] {&Threei}  lol, no kidding
[11:44] {nemo} well, short signals on GDX and it seems to be his binky
[11:44] {dino} too fast for me
[11:45] {nemo} yeah, that LII could be cardiac inducing
[11:49] {dino} out apd .12, +.40
01[12:17] {&Threei}  http://hmpg.net/
[12:17] {nemo} yeah, I'll interact with my neighbors
01[12:18] {&Threei}  poor guys
[12:18] {nemo} http://bit.ly/16GbTNg
[12:21] {cc_9} GDX a little toppy intraday here
01[12:50] {&Threei}  BlackBerry Canada Govt releases statement on BlackBerry, notes that it recognizes the company is exploring alternatives in order to increase its competitiveness- Govt will not comment on speculation about the future of the company.
[12:55] {cc_9} News just in : GDX will never go down
[12:55] {cc_9} miners have somehow found a way to get around rising costs
01[12:56] {&Threei}  lol
[12:59] {Will49} Checking in
[13:00] {robbers} Hi Will, nice to see you.
01[13:00] {&Threei}  hwy will
01[13:00] {&Threei}  hey
[13:00] {Will49} Hi Guys..just checking in to keep my settings current
[13:01] {Will49} busy, busy summer. Will be back in the saddle in Sept
[13:01] {Will49} cheers
[13:02] {~KSystems} invasion?
[13:03] {cc_9} looks like that statement was the top call on GDX lol
01[13:03] {&Threei}  as always
[13:11] {bbobr} Hi
01[13:12] {&Threei}  hi bbobr
01[13:12] {&Threei}  things are getting fixed...
[13:14] {cc_9} CLF, boy did I miss that reversal...someone asked this AM if it was shortable.
[13:14] {cc_9} (its not)
[13:14] {nemo} sheesh, finnies letting go
[13:18] {cc_9} short GDX here, stop 28.20
[13:18] {cc_9} tgt 27.60
[13:18] {dino} amri drop
[13:19] {cc_9} AMRI any news ?
[13:20] {RonS}  Albany Molecular Files Form 8-K Disclosing Termination Of Development Of BMS-820836 With Bristol-Myers Squibb via Benzinga
01[13:20] {&Threei}  AMRI Discloses it has been informed that BMY has decided to terminate development of BMS-820836; sees no impact on guidance for Q3 and FY13 - filing
[13:21] {cc_9} who sees no impact on guidance
[13:22] {dino} amri sm l .60
[13:24] {cc_9} AMRI looks like can bounce to $11+
[13:26] {cc_9} big spread, should bring in chasers
[13:27] {cc_9} any print 10.80 should get the bids going
[13:27] {cc_9} meanwhile GDX slowly working
[13:27] {ese} well well ....lookie here.......
01[13:28] {&Threei}  wow
01[13:28] {&Threei}  ese found us
01[13:28] {&Threei}  after being lost in cyberspace for 3 days
[13:28] {RonS} ...the beat goes on...
01[13:28] {&Threei}  lol
[13:28] {nemo} mmmhhh, and to think I was attributing the pleasant environment to Les' absence
01[13:29] {&Threei}  ese, you never got any e-mails about reserve room?
[13:29] {nemo} funny, his name wasn't in the mailing list
[13:29] {RonS} lol
[13:30] {nemo} Hey Ron:  http://bit.ly/16GbTNg
[13:30] {cc_9} AMRI volume spike (seller got out)
01[13:31] {&Threei}  GDX approaches bounce p]oint
[13:31] {nemo} vwap here
[13:31] {ese} am outta here wednesday for Iceland and Denmark
01[13:31] {&Threei}  sucks to be you...
[13:32] {nemo} sucks to be Iceland and Denmark
01[13:32] {&Threei}  lol
[13:32] {ese} wheres Les............he needs to come up and see me and catch a show
[13:32] {nemo} Switzerland
[13:32] {ese} L cvc .89
[13:33] {nemo} think he's vacationing with the family
[13:35] {ese} ah
[13:35] {ese} damn stopped .82 -.07
[13:36] {dino} out amri flat
[13:37] {+cc_9} AMRI, still thinking $11 is doable
[13:37] {+cc_9} (chart based only, no fundamentalm DD done here)
[13:37] {+cc_9} sell volume all got bought
[13:38] {+cc_9} stock made its double bottom
[13:38] {+cc_9} There goes $11.00
[13:39] {+cc_9} Thanks for the AMRI alert.
[13:40] {dino} bummer on amri, chickened out
[13:41] {dino} i like re-load around 10
[13:41] {dino} side track day, contractor here
[13:42] {+cc_9} dino, this is how I traded AMRI }} http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2769/miq1.jpg
[13:44] {ese} if ya don't want me here just say so
01[13:45] {&Threei}  ?
01[13:45] {&Threei}  everything is fixed
01[13:46] {&Threei}  round of applause to KSystems who went to hell and back about three times over last days to find the way around multiple tech support sabotage attempts
01[13:47] {&Threei}  ese, if you experience disconnects again, that's your normal issue with telus which seems to be premanent problem
01[13:48] {&Threei}  so, we resolved extraordinary problem and back to tregular ones :)
01[13:50] {&Threei}  crap, GDX bounced by the schedule but with no clear setup
01[13:54] {&Threei} Short Setup: BBRY  .50 break
01[13:54] {&Threei}  If holds  .55
[13:56] {nemo} spy might make lowest yearly volume today
01[13:56] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  28 break
01[13:56] {&Threei}  If holds  .05
[13:58] {dino} cc9, nice trades on amri, gj. i hit it too early
[14:01] {+cc_9} all good
[14:06] {nemo} could make an argument for FAS long here
01[14:10] {&Threei}  NYSE volume 310M shares, about 13% below its three-month average - - NASDAQ volume 900M shares, about 14% below its three-month average
01[14:14] {&Threei}  OPEN Facebook to allow mobile users to make reservations using OPENtable - tech blogs
[14:14] {dino} open spike
[14:14] {dino} sm s .10
[14:15] {dino} cov open .60, +.50
01[14:16] {&Threei}  nice hit
[14:17] {dino} ty
01[14:18] {&Threei}  I'd sy, hit-n'run
[14:23] {dino} fb allows open to make reservations thru fb
01[14:23] {&Threei}  lol... take me off ignore, dino
[14:23] {dino} cbrx stop .85 -.07, thing doesn't move
[14:24] {dino} lol, missed that
[14:36] {nemo} could play gdx long here if you think it'll hold the channel
[14:37] {nemo} think I'd lean short though
[14:38] {+cc_9} i think we see something similar to Friday's close GDX
[14:38] {+cc_9} some profit taking and setup for tomorrow
[14:38] {nemo} my equanimity perhaps implies no edge
[14:39] {dino} apd lod
[14:41] {nemo} ahhhh, bunny shows up for her afternoon raisin ration...She'd hop into the oven for those
[14:45] {nemo} yep, GDX holding the channel
[15:14] {+cc_9} SSO/SPY volume picked up, should be a fun close
01[15:14] {&Threei}  trying to find final trade
[15:14] {nemo} he has a funny definition of "fun"
[15:21] {+cc_9} well, by fun, i do mean some volatility
[15:21] {+cc_9} otherwise, forget what i said
01[15:22] {&Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .35 break
01[15:22] {&Threei}  If holds  .45
[15:23] {dino} jcp spike
01[15:23] {&Threei}  JC Penney Company Inc (Holding Co) Shareholders Soros and Glenview reportedly supportive of the company in its dispute against Ackman - financial press
[15:23] {dino} calling it a day, good one. thx for ideas
01[15:24] {&Threei}  take care dino
[15:25] {dino} ty
[15:29] {+cc_9} here we go GDX, lets get that EOD fade
[15:44] {+cc_9} I will be satisfied with DUST @ $64-$65 EOD
01[15:47] {&Threei}  meh
[15:47] {Alexs} stop is .46 isn't it?
01[15:48] {&Threei}  yeah but time is getting tight
[15:48] {Alexs} ok
01[15:48] {&Threei}  and I doubt it can do more than giving us breaeven exit at best
01[15:50] {&Threei}  ok, let's close it
01[15:51] {&Threei}  out .34
01[15:51] {&Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
01[15:52] {&Threei}  tomorrow we should be fully back to normal
[15:52] {Alexs} take care, ty
[15:52] {+cc_9} DUST $63, GDX printing lowest bid since 11:15AM
[15:54] {+cc_9} drop drop drop
[15:58] {+cc_9} what a dog
[15:58] {+cc_9} a demain