Session Time: Fri Aug 01 00:00:01 2008
[08:07] {Threei} 07/31/08 05:18pm [ELN] Notifies regulatory agencies of two confirmed cases of progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy (PML) in multiple sclerosis (MS) patients treated with TYSABRI in a commercial setting
[08:17] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY UNEMPLOYMENT RATE DATA DUE OUT AT 8:30AM
[08:17] {Threei} - Consensus expectations at 5.6% vs 5.5% prior
[08:17] {Threei} - Reminder- Apr& May 5.5% readings were the highest since Oct 2004
[08:18] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY CHANGE IN NONFARM PAYROLLS AND CHANGE IN MANUFACTURING PAYROLLS DUE AT 8:30 AM
[08:18] {Threei} - Change in Nonfarm Payrolls: -75K v -62K prior (Note the range of estimate are from -150K to 0K)
[08:18] {Threei} - Change in Manufacturing Payrolls: -40K v -33K prior
[08:18] {Threei} **Note: ADP Employment Change came in at +9K v -20Ke
[08:18] {Threei} ** Nov Fed Fund Future sees 60% chance of 25bps hike by the middle of the fall
[08:18] {Threei} - Reminder: Back month nonfarm payrolls have encountered 5 consecutive month of downward revisions
[08:30] {Threei} JUL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: 5.7% V 5.6%E
[08:30] {Threei} JUL CHANGE IN NONFARM PAYROLLS: -51K V -75KE; CHANGE IN MANUFACTURING PAYROLLS: -35K V -40KE
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Jun Nonfarm Payrolls revised Lower from - 62K to -51K Note: (sixth straight month of lower revisions in back months)
[08:31] {Threei} JULY AVERAGE HOURLY EARNINGS M/M: 0.3% V 0.3%E; AVERAGE WEEKLY AVERAGE: 336. V 33.7E
[08:35] {Threei} .v raven
[08:37] {Raven} 3 .v Threei
[08:37] {Threei} sigh
[08:37] {Raven} 3 rofl
[08:37] {Threei} frikin script just won't work as it should :)
[08:37] {Raven} 3 you trying to vaporize me?
[08:38] {Threei} it's not personal
[08:38] {Raven} 3 OK
[08:38] {Threei} just a ingrained reaction... I try to vaporize anyone in sight
[08:38] {Raven} 3 be careful
[08:39] {Threei} you know... "vaporize or be vaporized"...
[08:39] {Raven} 3 sigh
[08:44] {Threei} FORMER FED MEMBER POOLE SAYS INFLATION PROBLEM DEVELOPING OVER LONGER TERM
[08:44] {Threei} seriously?
[08:45] {Threei} I'll say... considering that today's dollar costs what, 6% of dollar before Fed creation?
[08:46] {Raven} 3 long term we're all dead
[08:49] {Threei} ABK
[08:49] {Threei} SETTLES $1.4B CDO SQUARED TRANSACTION, MAKING PAYMENT OF $850M
[08:49] {Threei} - Company has settled one of its largest CDO exposures, AA Bespoke, in exchange for a final cash payment of $850 million to its sole counterparty. AA Bespoke is a $1.4 billion transaction that originally comprised AA rated CDO of ABS tranches, most of which have been downgraded to below investment grade since the inception of the transaction
[08:50] {Raven} 3 don't fall into the tranches
[08:51] {Threei} ELN back into support
[08:59] {magoo} morn
[08:59] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:03] {magoo} vad, yesterday u were saying u like to hang around all day on slow days because u never know if IF something developes
[09:03] {magoo} well, i almost always like to do same for after hours
[09:04] {Threei} during earnings season, sure
[09:04] {magoo} point being..last night at 5 pm ELN starts rolling over on scanner from 22 all way to 10..i shorted it several
[09:04] {magoo} points
[09:04] {magoo} made like 1400
[09:05] {magoo} just saying
[09:05] {magoo} , it hit under 10
[09:05] {magoo} ffrom 22 area, plus biib went down with it,
[09:06] {Threei} nice, congratulations
[09:06] {magoo} but u gotta sit till 6 pm cause nev er know, movwes come after conference calls at 5 lots of times
[09:06] {Threei} yeah
[09:06] {Threei} well, one needs to draw a line somewhere
[09:06] {magoo} prob is i never get home till 7 pm {wife no like that}
[09:06] {Threei} otherwise it never ends... one market closes, another opens
[09:07] {Threei} pretty soon you are trading 24/7
[09:07] {magoo} friday afterhours worthless though, no action
[09:08] {magoo} i was only doing 100 shares..thats why didnt do better
[09:09] {magoo} but it was risky of course
[09:10] {peterg} morning
[09:10] {peterg} gj magoo
[09:10] {magoo} i just trade until i make what i think raven makes for day he he
[09:11] {magoo} BIIB
[09:11] {magoo} news vad?
[09:11] {Threei} peter :)
[09:12] {Threei} same as ELN
[09:12] {magoo} it hit 52 last night..back there now
[09:12] {Threei} they are in that drug together
[09:12] {magoo} i thought wye was with eln
[09:12] {lars} morning all
[09:12] {Threei} lars :)
[09:13] {Threei} abk
[09:13] {Threei} possible player today
[09:13] {magoo} lars:)
[09:14] {cosmo} PWAV should hold 4.25 imo
[09:15] {cosmo} ... for a 4.35 break...
[09:17] {fernp} Good morning
[09:17] {Threei} fern :)
[09:22] {lars} nice job last night magoo :)
[09:23] {lars} better take wife to nice dinner though :)
[09:24] {Raven} 3 {---------- checking for a magoo spy camera
[09:26] {magoo} you're getting warmer, there, there, oops..wrong turn
[09:26] {Raven} 3 lol
[09:26] {Threei} C
[09:26] {Threei} DISCLOSES STATUS AS COUNTERPARTY IN ABK TRANSACTION ANNOUNCED EARLIER TODAY
[09:26] {Threei} {ABK}
[09:27] {dptl} good morning all
[09:27] {Threei} ELN is scalpable on bounce but right now it's in uncharted territory, can't tell where the entry is
[09:27] {Threei} dp :)
[09:28] {Threei} 07:17am [GM] CEO: Production fell by about 27% in Q2, overseas operations are performing well, liquidity plan is on track, have cash to cover needs through 2009
[09:29] {Threei} 06:59am [GM] Reports Q2 -$11.21 v -$2.62e (Ex items) , R $38.15B v $44.57Be, To draw $1.0B from credit lines, Records $9.1B charge
[09:29] {Threei} DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OBAMA SAYS HE WOULD BACK A WINDFALL TAX ON OIL COMPANIES
[09:29] {Threei} {XOM CVX USO}
[09:30] {cosmo} that's better than nationalizing them i guess...
[09:31] {Threei} half lot long ELN
[09:31] {Threei} stop under .60
[09:31] {Threei} can take several attempts
[09:32] {esemde} morning......
[09:32] {Threei} ese :)
[09:33] {Threei} feel fre to take profit ELN
[09:33] {esemde} hey
[09:33] {Threei} out 11.05, +.35
[09:33] {esemde} Irish Whisky.............thats all i'm going to say!
[09:34] {Threei} anyone got ELN?
[09:34] {Threei} that panic dive to .70 was a godsend
[09:34] {lars} out at 11.08 +.31
[09:34] {Threei} wtg
[09:34] {peterg} out with a small .12
[09:35] {lars} thx... to you :)
[09:35] {Threei} VVUS
[09:35] {Threei} .75 break long, stop under .55, possible swing trade
[09:35] {Threei} generally slow one
[09:36] {Threei} don't touch it if not willing to sit on it for a while
[09:36] {magoo} hence magoo back off
[09:36] {Threei} ABK
[09:36] {Threei} .21 long, stop under 3
[09:37] {magoo} 100 sh l CME
[09:38] {magoo} 351
[09:39] {magoo} too soon
[09:39] {esemde} long VPRT 29.61
[09:40] {magoo} that sucked out minus 500
[09:40] {esemde} out Vprt .95 3/4 lot
[09:40] {esemde} holly!!!!
[09:40] {esemde} in out bang bang
[09:40] {esemde} barely time to typole this
[09:41] {Threei} nice scalping footwork
[09:41] {esemde} that was really fast Vad
[09:41] {Threei} VVUS chews resistance
[09:41] {Threei} the best kind ese...
[09:42] {Threei} leave it to analyst to discuss for days why it went up
[09:43] {Threei} what just happened?
[09:46] {Roman} 21 long GLD
[09:46] {esemde} happened to what Vad?
[09:46] {Roman} 21 small
[09:46] {Threei} market
[09:46] {Threei} sudden drop
[09:46] {esemde} NDX is tanking on my monitor
[09:47] {esemde} news?
[09:47] {Threei} that was what I asked :)
[09:47] {Threei} I s\ee none
[09:47] {hawkfan4} none here
[09:47] {esemde} me either
[09:47] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY ISM MANUFACTURING COMPOSITE DUE OUT AT 10AMET
[09:47] {Threei} **consensus expectation: 49.0e v prior 50.2
[09:47] {Threei} - Prices paid expected at 88.0 v 91.5 prior (which was highest prices paid since July 1979)
[09:48] {esemde} Sunh bstop 15.61 1/2 lot
[09:49] {judijim} gm all
[09:49] {Threei} jj :)
[09:49] {esemde} jj
[09:49] {Threei} wanted to short NSANY, then remembered I have two of their cars
[09:49] {Threei} and happy with both
[09:49] {Threei} GM not in a short list
[09:50] {esemde} long SUNH
[09:50] {Roman} 21 long GOLD small
[09:50] {esemde} out SUNH
[09:50] {Roman} 21 49.41
[09:51] {esemde} .89
[09:51] {Threei} lol ese
[09:51] {Threei} you arwe making money today faster than you can report
[09:51] {esemde} man oh man...
[09:51] {Threei} all while market dropping like there is no tomorrow
[09:51] {esemde} shooting up like rockets.....
[09:52] {Roman} 21 watching HK setup
[09:52] {Threei} nice feeling of mastering this thing eh?
[09:52] {Roman} 21 long
[09:52] {esemde} going up so fast can barely type to keep up...
[09:52] {Threei} no thinking involved... eye to finger reaction
[09:52] {esemde} exactly
[09:52] {Threei} brain inbetween is canceled
[09:52] {hawkfan4} geesh, no news
[09:52] {Roman} 21 long HK small
[09:52] {esemde} indeed!
[09:53] {Threei} ok, what the heck is going on?
[09:53] {Roman} 21 33.75
[09:53] {Roman} 21 unemployment numbers this morning
[09:53] {Roman} 21 taking toll
[09:53] {Roman} 21 imo
[09:53] {Roman} 21 commodities stroong sofar
[09:53] {Threei} they are over an hour old
[09:54] {Threei} and they weren't too bad
[09:54] {magoo} how bad we close yesterday?
[09:54] {Threei} in green
[09:55] {Threei} 20 points NQ off the high though
[09:55] {magoo} dow?
[09:56] {Threei} 8.02 long UAUA
[09:56] {Threei} 7.94 stop
[09:59] {Threei} invalidated
[09:59] {Threei} numbers in a min
[09:59] {Threei} VVUS is nicely oblivious to the market
[09:59] {magoo} l rimm 120
[09:59] {magoo} small
[10:00] {Threei} *JUNE CONSTRUCTION SPENDING (M/M): -0.4% V -0.3%E
[10:00] {Threei} prior revised to 0.0% from -0.4%
[10:00] {magoo} out .60
[10:00] {magoo} +.60
[10:01] {Roman} 21 magoo is back
[10:01] {Roman} 21 out HK
[10:01] {magoo} cme cracked me
[10:01] {magoo} nasty
[10:01] {magoo} its a dino play
[10:01] {magoo} need the dino i gues
[10:02] {Roman} 21 that guy is still on vacation?
[10:02] {magoo} yeah
[10:02] {Roman} 21 nice
[10:02] {magoo} only his 3rd with 2 more coming for yr
[10:03] {Roman} 21 his 3rd vacation this year?
[10:03] {Threei} *JULY ISM MANUFACTURING: 50 V 49E; PRICE PAID: 88.5 V 88E
[10:03] {Threei} - Employment Index 51.9 v 43.7 prior{SPY EUR/USD}
[10:03] {magoo} yeah, mexico, 2 north caro..plus jamaca coming and 1 more caro
[10:03] {magoo} bastard lol
[10:03] {Roman} 21 damn, you guys making serious $$$
[10:04] {magoo} HEY..i took nopne
[10:04] {magoo} mnone
[10:04] {magoo} none
[10:04] {Roman} 21 i wish some day i can be like you
[10:04] {magoo} i haven't been on family vaca in years
[10:04] {Roman} 21 out GLD +.40
[10:05] {Roman} 21 out GOLD +.76
[10:05] {Roman} 21 all small
[10:06] {Roman} 21 watching RGLD for long
[10:06] {Roman} 21 small
[10:06] {Threei} wtg
[10:07] {Roman} 21 i think GOLD got more
[10:07] {Roman} 21 look at commodities
[10:07] {Roman} 21 damn
[10:07] {Roman} 21 ROYL
[10:07] {Roman} 21 in
[10:08] {Roman} 21 .95
[10:10] {laserdave1} hawkfan dcc when u get a sec
[10:10] {magoo} what would be very unexpected is if IF this mkt could turn around here and go green big
[10:10] {Roman} 21 NCOC
[10:13] {magoo} l aapl .55
[10:14] {magoo} small 300
[10:14] {magoo} wait 157.17
[10:14] {Roman} 21 in with u
[10:15] {magoo} .95 prints
[10:17] {magoo} out .14 THERE
[10:17] {magoo} .17 THERE
[10:18] {magoo} easy too
[10:18] {magoo} never neg
[10:18] {lars} +.41 aapl u da man magoo :)
[10:19] {Threei} I don't worry about you guys at all for the time of my Alaska cruise
[10:20] {magoo} u should check in once in awhiole if access boss
[10:20] {Threei} nope
[10:20] {magoo} when u leaving?
[10:20] {Threei} next Sat
[10:21] {magoo} dates?
[10:21] {Threei} Aug 9 - 16
[10:23] {Roman} 21 all these people are just on vacation
[10:23] {Roman} 21 i have not had one in ages
[10:23] {Roman} 21 amazing
[10:23] {Threei} you live in Florida, you whole life is vacation
[10:23] {Roman} 21 something must be wrong with me
[10:23] {GeoArb} i have been on vacation a day here and there
[10:23] {magoo} roflol
[10:30] {Threei} US STATE DEPT NOTES EXPECTING A RESPONSE FROM IRAN ON ITS LATEST NUCLEAR INCENTIVES OFFER OVER THE WEEKEND (THE EXISTING DEADLINE FOR A RESPONSE IS THIS WEEKEND)
[10:30] {Threei} {USO}
[10:31] {Threei} OPEC MIN: OPEC WILL INTERVENE IN OIL MARKET IF SUPPLY SURPASSES DEMAND TO CREATE BALANCE
[10:31] {Threei} {USO OIH}
[10:38] {magoo} l rimm 120
[10:38] {magoo} sm
[10:39] {magoo} 200 bux stop whatever size
[10:39] {magoo} lay out .61
[10:40] {lars} iwas just gonna ask target... i need to type faster
[10:41] {Roman} 21 WM
[10:44] {Roman} 21 .
[10:46] {magoo} i have 300 sh so my stiop is .39
[10:46] {magoo} trade needs mkt power
[10:46] {Roman} 21 99% chance u will make money
[10:46] {Roman} 21 on this trade
[10:46] {kazaam} what do you thik about NYX double bottom
[10:46] {magoo} safer exit .33
[10:46] {kazaam} oh damn, just moved
[10:46] {lars} abk moving
[10:46] {kazaam} nevermind vad
[10:47] {magoo} on WM rfr?
[10:47] {Roman} 21 RIMM
[10:47] {magoo} oh
[10:47] {Roman} 21 u on RIMM
[10:48] {Roman} 21 u got the power
[10:48] {magoo} i leave exit at .61
[10:48] {Roman} 21 why not $125
[10:49] {magoo} well...if IF mkt goes green yeah
[10:49] {Roman} 21 WM sqeezing short a bit
[10:55] {Threei} ABK is serious aabout squeezing today
[11:00] {Threei} MER .61 long if stays above .50
[11:01] {Threei} invalidated
[11:01] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY US VEHICLE SALES NUMBERS EXPECTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY FROM MAJOR AUTO MAKERS
[11:01] {Threei} **consensus estimates:
[11:01] {Threei} - Ford: -20%e adjusted basis (usually released at Noon ET).
[11:01] {Threei} - GM: -25%e adjusted basis (usually released around 1:45pmET).
[11:01] {Threei} - July 2008 had 26 selling days, two more than July 2007. On an unadjusted basis, the estimates above would be higher by about 8% (i.e F -12%e, and GM -17%e).
[11:04] {magoo} out rimm
[11:04] {magoo} dont lose here
[11:04] {magoo} had .51
[11:12] {Roman} 21 CHK
[11:12] {Roman} 21 long small 50.32 stop under 50
[11:18] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: PREMATURE TO DISCUSS A 2ND ECONOMIC STIMULUS
[11:23] {Threei} ABK is aiming for 4 and above
[11:24] {Threei} CHRYSLER IS REPORTEDLY INCREASING INCENTIVES FOR PURCHASES AFTER END TO LEASING PROGRAM, PROVIDING $2K CASH BACK IN ADDITION TO 6 YR, INTEREST FREE LOANS
[11:24] {Threei} {F GM}
[11:25] {esemde} 6 year interest free loans??? there nuts
[11:25] {Threei} they need to get rid of lease at this point
[11:26] {GeoArb} they are all loosing money hand over fist on leases
[11:26] {Threei} IMO, in preparation for total fleet revamping which is going to make gasoline-based cars impossible to sell
[11:26] {Threei} not really Geo
[11:26] {Threei} lease is more pfoitable for them
[11:26] {GeoArb} in fact one of them stopped leasing
[11:26] {GeoArb} right now
[11:27] {GeoArb} lemme find the article
[11:27] {Threei} all 3 actually are backing away of it
[11:27] {GeoArb} yeah
[11:27] {Threei} don't bother, I read it
[11:27] {GeoArb} heheh
[11:27] {Threei} but their abandoning lease is not based on losing money on it
[11:27] {GeoArb} credit crunch
[11:27] {GeoArb} and resale lower than projection
[11:27] {Threei} they lease you a car,
[11:28] {Threei} you come back in 3-4 years,
[11:28] {Threei} dump a car in their lap,
[11:28] {Threei} and get another one.
[11:28] {Threei} ABK 4
[11:28] {Threei} Everything worked fine while business was as usual
[11:28] {Threei} However when they are in the middle of turning their fleet into different technology
[11:29] {Threei} old cars will be unsellable
[11:29] {Threei} aand they prefer to sell it to you today and have you stuck with it
[11:29] {Threei} instead of you dumping it on them, get your new shining super-duper-nuclear-hydrogen-electric
[11:29] {Threei} and them stuck with obsolete gasolin dybosaur they can't sell
[11:30] {GeoArb} also IMO they are having difficulty in credit to pass along
[11:30] {Threei} everyone does...
[11:30] {GeoArb} i like amtrack
[11:30] {Threei} that's of less concern to them though
[11:31] {Threei} they still give you financing, right?
[11:31] {GeoArb} i am a socialist rubbing sholders with other commoners
[11:31] {Threei} need credit for that even more than for lease
[11:32] {Threei} anyone found entry on ABK?
[11:32] {GeoArb} what no socialist comment sneers?
[11:32] {GeoArb} man.....
[11:32] {lars} +.17 on ABK
[11:33] {lars} thx Vad
[11:33] {Threei} :)
[11:34] {kazaam} vad, which scanner first popped up ABK?
[11:35] {Threei} news bfore open
[11:35] {kazaam} trade the news?
[11:36] {Threei} [08:49] {Threei} ABK
[11:36] {Threei} [08:49] {Threei} SETTLES $1.4B CDO SQUARED TRANSACTION, MAKING PAYMENT OF $850M
[11:36] {Threei} [08:49] {Threei} - Company has settled one of its largest CDO exposures, AA Bespoke, in exchange for a final cash payment of $850 million to its sole counterparty. AA Bespoke is a $1.4 billion transaction that originally comprised AA rated CDO of ABS tranches, most of which have been downgraded to below investment grade since the inception of the transaction
[11:36] {kazaam} ty
[11:37] {Threei} [09:13] {Threei} abk
[11:37] {Threei} [09:13] {Threei} possible player today
[11:40] {esemde} The other thing about those interest free loans is that Gm gets there money right away anyway. Principal and interest. All they do is sell the loan to a cllection agency whom are just brutal when it comes to collecting from you.
[11:52] {Threei} trying to get a feel if ABK done or worth a bounce
[11:52] {Threei} not sure
[12:02] {kazaam} when does regular trading "summer" start and end?
[12:05] {Threei} mid-June - Labor day
[14:05] {Threei} US STATE DEPT NOTES EXPECTING A RESPONSE FROM IRAN ON ITS LATEST NUCLEAR INCENTIVES OFFER OVER THE WEEKEND (THE EXISTING DEADLINE FOR A RESPONSE IS THIS WEEKEND)
[14:05] {Threei} {USO}
[14:05] {Threei} OPEC MIN: OPEC WILL INTERVENE IN OIL MARKET IF SUPPLY SURPASSES DEMAND TO CREATE BALANCE
[14:05] {Threei} {USO OIH}
[14:05] {magoo} l rimm 120
[14:05] {magoo} sm
[14:05] {magoo} 200 bux stop whatever size
[14:05] {magoo} lay out .61
[14:05] {lars} iwas just gonna ask target... i need to type faster
[14:05] {Roman} 21 WM
[14:05] {Roman} 21 .
[14:05] {magoo} i have 300 sh so my stiop is .39
[14:05] {magoo} trade needs mkt power
[14:05] {Roman} 21 99% chance u will make money
[14:05] {Roman} 21 on this trade
[14:05] {kazaam} what do you thik about NYX double bottom
[14:05] {magoo} safer exit .33
[14:05] {kazaam} oh damn, just moved
[14:05] {lars} abk moving
[14:05] {kazaam} nevermind vad
[14:05] {magoo} on WM rfr?
[14:05] {Roman} 21 RIMM
[14:05] {magoo} oh
[14:05] {Roman} 21 u on RIMM
[14:05] {Roman} 21 u got the power
[14:05] {magoo} i leave exit at .61
[14:05] {Roman} 21 why not $125
[14:05] {magoo} well...if IF mkt goes green yeah
[14:05] {Roman} 21 WM sqeezing short a bit
[14:05] {Threei} ABK is serious aabout squeezing today
[14:05] {Threei} MER .61 long if stays above .50
[14:05] {Threei} invalidated
[14:05] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY US VEHICLE SALES NUMBERS EXPECTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY FROM MAJOR AUTO MAKERS
[14:05] {Threei} **consensus estimates:
[14:05] {Threei} - Ford: -20%e adjusted basis (usually released at Noon ET).
[14:05] {Threei} - GM: -25%e adjusted basis (usually released around 1:45pmET).
[14:05] {Threei} - July 2008 had 26 selling days, two more than July 2007. On an unadjusted basis, the estimates above would be higher by about 8% (i.e F -12%e, and GM -17%e).
[14:05] {magoo} out rimm
[14:05] {magoo} dont lose here
[14:05] {magoo} had .51
[14:05] {Roman} 21 CHK
[14:05] {Roman} 21 long small 50.32 stop under 50
[14:05] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: PREMATURE TO DISCUSS A 2ND ECONOMIC STIMULUS
[14:05] {Threei} ABK is aiming for 4 and above
[14:05] {Threei} CHRYSLER IS REPORTEDLY INCREASING INCENTIVES FOR PURCHASES AFTER END TO LEASING PROGRAM, PROVIDING $2K CASH BACK IN ADDITION TO 6 YR, INTEREST FREE LOANS
[14:05] {Threei} {F GM}
[14:05] {esemde} 6 year interest free loans??? there nuts
[14:05] {Threei} they need to get rid of lease at this point
[14:05] {GeoArb} they are all loosing money hand over fist on leases
[14:05] {Threei} IMO, in preparation for total fleet revamping which is going to make gasoline-based cars impossible to sell
[14:05] {Threei} not really Geo
[14:05] {Threei} lease is more pfoitable for them
[14:05] {GeoArb} in fact one of them stopped leasing
[14:05] {GeoArb} right now
[14:05] {GeoArb} lemme find the article
[14:05] {Threei} all 3 actually are backing away of it
[14:05] {GeoArb} yeah
[14:05] {Threei} don't bother, I read it
[14:05] {GeoArb} heheh
[14:05] {Threei} but their abandoning lease is not based on losing money on it
[14:05] {GeoArb} credit crunch
[14:05] {GeoArb} and resale lower than projection
[14:05] {Threei} they lease you a car,
[14:05] {Threei} you come back in 3-4 years,
[14:05] {Threei} dump a car in their lap,
[14:05] {Threei} and get another one.
[14:05] {Threei} ABK 4
[14:05] {Threei} Everything worked fine while business was as usual
[14:05] {Threei} However when they are in the middle of turning their fleet into different technology
[14:05] {Threei} old cars will be unsellable
[14:05] {Threei} aand they prefer to sell it to you today and have you stuck with it
[14:05] {Threei} instead of you dumping it on them, get your new shining super-duper-nuclear-hydrogen-electric
[14:05] {Threei} and them stuck with obsolete gasolin dybosaur they can't sell
[14:05] {GeoArb} also IMO they are having difficulty in credit to pass along
[14:05] {Threei} everyone does...
[14:05] {GeoArb} i like amtrack
[14:05] {Threei} that's of less concern to them though
[14:05] {Threei} they still give you financing, right?
[14:05] {GeoArb} i am a socialist rubbing sholders with other commoners
[14:05] {Threei} need credit for that even more than for lease
[14:05] {Threei} anyone found entry on ABK?
[14:05] {GeoArb} what no socialist comment sneers?
[14:05] {GeoArb} man.....
[14:05] {lars} +.17 on ABK
[14:05] {lars} thx Vad
[14:05] {Threei} :)
[14:05] {kazaam} vad, which scanner first popped up ABK?
[14:05] {Threei} news bfore open
[14:05] {kazaam} trade the news?
[14:05] {Threei} [08:49] {Threei} ABK
[14:05] {Threei} [08:49] {Threei} SETTLES $1.4B CDO SQUARED TRANSACTION, MAKING PAYMENT OF $850M
[14:05] {Threei} [08:49] {Threei} - Company has settled one of its largest CDO exposures, AA Bespoke, in exchange for a final cash payment of $850 million to its sole counterparty. AA Bespoke is a $1.4 billion transaction that originally comprised AA rated CDO of ABS tranches, most of which have been downgraded to below investment grade since the inception of the transaction
[14:05] {kazaam} ty
[14:05] {Threei} [09:13] {Threei} abk
[14:05] {Threei} [09:13] {Threei} possible player today
[14:05] {esemde} The other thing about those interest free loans is that Gm gets there money right away anyway. Principal and interest. All they do is sell the loan to a cllection agency whom are just brutal when it comes to collecting from you.
[14:05] {Threei} trying to get a feel if ABK done or worth a bounce
[14:05] {Threei} not sure
[14:05] {kazaam} when does regular trading ""summer"" start and end?
[14:18] {peterg} hello?
[14:19] {Threei} hi
[14:19] {Threei} one made it
[14:19] {peterg} just got email with right entry
[14:19] {Threei} we sent e-mail to all members
[14:19] {peterg} good to be back.
[14:20] {peterg} what was that all about?
[14:20] {Threei} server problem at ChatSpace
[14:20] {peterg} server crash
[14:20] {peterg} ok, onwards; whats up?
[14:20] {Threei} no idea... looking around
[14:24] {peterg} server refused me entry for until it decided it liked me
[14:24] {Threei} ELN is a disaster... short on bonuses
[14:26] {Threei} no one reads e-mails I take it
[14:27] {peterg} i was corresponding with RT svs
[14:27] {Threei} yes
[14:27] {Threei} we sent mass e-maiol with new IP
[14:27] {peterg} so primed
[14:27] {peterg} i dont think i got that
[14:28] {peterg} no; didntget
[14:28] {patience} didn't get an email vad
[14:28] {Threei} sigh
[14:28] {patience} remembered to go to the RT site for the ip string
[14:28] {peterg} thats why its just you me, now patience
[14:28] {patience} sounds good, let's make all the money today :)
[14:28] {Threei} yes... it has changed, site just got updated
[14:29] {Threei} short the hell out of ELN, this thing is not done dropping... IMO
[14:30] {Threei} if we get lucky to have it bounced to 10.5 would be great
[14:31] {peterg} short at .91
[14:31] {Threei} stop over 10
[14:34] {Threei} needs better bounce
[14:35] {kazaam} thought my time ran out
[14:35] {Threei} lol
[14:35] {Threei} you got e-mail?
[14:35] {kazaam} yeah
[14:35] {kazaam} how many days do i have?
[14:36] {kazaam} once i get the email?
[14:36] {Threei} I mean e-mail with new server IP to login the room
[14:37] {kazaam} oh, yeah i got new server IP email
[14:37] {kazaam} how would i get here if i didnt get it?
[14:37] {Threei} well, there is a reserve server on our website
[14:37] {kazaam} Ohhhh
[14:37] {Threei} on trasding room page
[14:38] {Threei} you can pull it from there
[14:38] {kazaam} gotcha, spicing up summer trading i see
[14:38] {Threei} hehe
[14:41] {peterg} still likee short ELN?
[14:41] {Threei} yes... just hard to time it here, too nervous trader
[14:41] {peterg} i am a nervous trader
[14:41] {peterg} too
[14:42] {peterg} wkg on it
[14:42] {Threei} leave it alone then, it's not an easy stock
[14:45] {kazaam} when does "summer" trading end and begin?
[14:46] {Threei} mid-June - Labor day
[14:46] {Threei} usually
[14:56] {kazaam} ty
[15:04] {peterg} dcc laserdave1
[15:09] {Threei} C
[15:09] {Threei} NY ATTY GENERAL CUOMO MAY CHARGE CITIGROUP WITH FRAUD OVER AUCTION RATE SECURITIES MARKETING - CNBC
[15:09] {Threei} - Cuomo notes that the charges may ask that Citigroup buy ARS back from customer at PAR
[15:09] {Threei} - Reminder earlier this morning Citigroup disclosed the SEC had issued a formal order of investigation related to ARS
[15:10] {peterg} Memo to self: when short, do not sell to end transaction.
[15:10] {peterg} You only sell more......
[15:10] {kazaam} lol peter, i have 10 of those memos posted around my desk
[15:10] {kazaam} i guess they havent been working for me
[15:10] {peterg} u 2?
[15:12] {kazaam} i started to use only hotkeys because my memos were piling up
[15:14] {peterg} ok all calling it a day--bye kaz, laz, vad, pat
[15:14] {Threei} take care peter
[15:26] {magoo} HEY
[15:26] {patience} oh magoo!!! i missed you.
[15:26] {magoo} was here..knocked out
[15:28] {magoo} ty vad
[15:29] {laserdave1} hey mags
[15:29] {magoo} hi dave
[15:29] {Threei} what a pain
[15:29] {laserdave1} magoo
[15:29] {laserdave1} ya i know
[15:29] {Threei} chatspace had to physically relocate server
[15:29] {laserdave1} he can drive ya cooky
[15:29] {laserdave1} :)
[15:29] {magoo} i was out like hour
[15:36] {Threei} ABK looks to go over 4 once more
[15:40] {magoo} any reports after bell?
[15:40] {Threei} nothing of significance
[15:41] {Threei} ARBA is dfoing it again or what
[15:41] {Threei} runup with no news
[15:56] {Threei} OK guys, have a great weekend
[15:56] {Threei} see you on Monday
[15:56] {magoo} ok ty vad
[15:57] {Threei} dns propagation should occur till then
[15:57] {Threei} so no need in reserve server
[15:57] {Threei} but if not, use this new one
[15:58] {Threei} it posted at http://www.realitytrader.com/tradingroom/ in red letters closer to the bottom of the page
[16:01] {laserdave1} later everyone
Friday, August 1, 2008
Thursday, July 31, 2008
Jul 31 2008
Session Time: Thu Jul 31 00:00:00 2008
[08:04] {Threei} MA
[08:04] {Threei} REPORTS Q2 $2.11 V $2.02E, R $1.2B V $1.21BE
[08:04] {Threei} - Q2 Charge volume +15.7%{V AXP XLF TLT}
[08:11] {Threei} PREVIEW: US INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS DATA DUE OUT AT 8:30 AM ET
[08:11] {Threei} - Expectations for initial claims are 393K v prior release of 406K.
[08:11] {Threei} - Continuing claims seen at 3.150M v prior 3.017M.
[08:11] {Threei} PREVIEW: Q2 EMPLOYMENT COST INDEX EXPECTED AT 8:30AM
[08:11] {Threei} - consensus expectations at 0.7% v 0.7% last
[08:11] {Threei} PREVIEW: Q2 ADVANCED GDP ANNUALIZED AND PERSONAL CONSUMPTION DUE AT 8:30 AM
[08:11] {Threei} Consensus expectations:
[08:11] {Threei} - GDP Annualized: 2.3% v 1.0% prior
[08:11] {Threei} - Personal Consumption: 1.7% v 1.1% prior
[08:12] {Threei} PREVIEW: Q2 ADVANCED GDP PRICE INDEX AND CORE PCE Q/Q DUE AT 8:30 AM
[08:12] {Threei} Consensus expectations:
[08:12] {Threei} - GDP Price Index: 2.4% v 2.7% last
[08:12] {Threei} - Core PCE Q/Q: 2.0% v 2.3% last
[08:30] {Threei} INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 448K V 393KE;
[08:30] {Threei} CONTINUING CLAIMS: 3.282M V 3.150ME
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Jobless Claims revised from 406K to 404K
[08:30] {Threei} Q2 ADVANCED GDP ANNUALIZED: 1.9% V 2.3%E; PERSONAL CONSUMPTION: 1.5% V 1.7%E
[08:31] {Threei} Q2 ADVANCED GDP PRICE INDEX: 1.2% V 2.4%E; CORE PCE Q/Q: 2.1% V 2.0%E
[08:56] {judijim} good morning all
[08:56] {Threei} Good morning
[09:08] {dptl} good morning all
[09:10] {Threei} dp :)
[09:13] {fernp} Good morning RT
[09:14] {Threei} fern :)
[09:16] {magoo} .,d.,jl,srgjlkj.ksadjl
[09:16] {Threei} lkf0578y7ngksyl?
[09:17] {cosmo} HOLX takes back 19 fwiw
[09:18] {cosmo} ...should hold 19 imo
[09:18] {magoo} so jiobs number stinx eh?
[09:18] {Threei} sure does
[09:19] {Threei} so let's rally
[09:19] {Threei} bad is new good, have you heard?
[09:19] {cosmo} bad is no good i thot
[09:19] {Threei} that's canceled
[09:20] {cosmo} oh
[09:22] {cosmo} HOLX is bad
[09:27] {tomg} gm all
[09:27] {Threei} tom :)
[09:27] {magoo} what u watchin vad?
[09:27] {Threei} so far usual suspects
[09:31] {magoo} are we down 108?
[09:31] {Threei} 115
[09:37] {peterg} gm group
[09:37] {Threei} peter :)
[09:37] {magoo} sheesh..fslr peaked after bell 311..
[09:37] {magoo} gave aallback
[09:37] {Threei} FNM
[09:37] {Threei} .61 long
[09:37] {Threei} .45 stop
[09:37] {magoo} in .58
[09:38] {magoo} l aapl .50
[09:40] {Threei} stop to .49
[09:41] {magoo} vad, rimm sh scalp?look
[09:41] {Threei} no read on a short side
[09:41] {Threei} no setup
[09:41] {magoo} well..will breathe
[09:41] {Threei} I don't short just because it's up a lot
[09:42] {Threei} will, of course,... but how do you tell from where?
[09:42] {magoo} a red candle is coming
[09:42] {magoo} out aaple .24 here
[09:42] {magoo} +.74
[09:42] {Threei} full buck up while we exchange
[09:43] {Threei} stop to .55 FNM
[09:43] {cosmo} HOLX wants 20 hod
[09:43] {Threei} don't want to wait too long for it to work
[09:43] {lars} nice job aapl magoo :)
[09:43] {Threei} market moves, either FNM follows or let's limit our risk
[09:44] {magoo} lars...if play aapl rimm small shares like 300 - 500 ok?
[09:44] {magoo} minus 200 bux is standard stop i use
[09:44] {lars} understood thx
[09:45] {Threei} SYMC
[09:45] {magoo} little room to avoid rinse..small shares to control risk
[09:45] {Threei} 21 break long
[09:45] {Threei} JULY CHICAGO PURCHASING MANAGER'S INDEX: 50.8 V 49.0E
[09:45] {magoo} in
[09:45] {magoo} .99
[09:45] {Threei} .89 stop
[09:46] {magoo} vasd right..rimm would habve got me short
[09:46] {Roman} 21 long ESLR
[09:46] {Roman} 21 small
[09:47] {magoo} vad..news RIMM?
[09:47] {Threei} 07/30/08 06:17pm [RIMM] Bullish mention on Jim Cramer's MAD MONEY - CNBC
[09:47] {magoo} ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:48] {Threei} 1:1 FNM
[09:48] {Threei} (fiiinally)
[09:48] {Threei} took its sweet time
[09:48] {Threei} 1:1 SYMC
[09:49] {Threei} 1:2
[09:49] {Threei} I am out
[09:49] {magoo} me out now .23 TY BOSS
[09:49] {Threei} welcome
[09:49] {kazaam} alxn?
[09:49] {magoo} out here .75 FNM...ssob yt
[09:49] {Threei} 93 break
[09:50] {Threei} very thin
[09:50] {lars} + .29 symc thx!
[09:50] {Threei} volatility is beyond my risk tolerance
[09:50] {Threei} lars :)
[09:50] {magoo} wtg lars
[09:50] {lars} still half in fnm
[09:51] {Threei} FNM 1:2
[09:51] {Threei} can I go home?
[09:51] {magoo} what u think??
[09:51] {lars} no.... please no :)
[09:51] {Threei} lol
[09:51] {Threei} after morning activity dies I am going to call stops only :)
06[09:52] * Threei is trying to blackmail his way to a day off
[09:52] {lars} + .30 fnm 2 for 2 Vad!
[09:52] {Threei} good job lars
[09:52] {peterg} have to agree; I am stumbling over my fingers
[09:52] {Threei} especially satistfying to see such perfomance from newer mebemrs
[09:53] {magoo} sigh...he never once said nice thing about magoo
[09:53] {lars} thx... i am playing very small shares now
[09:53] {Threei} ugh mags
[09:53] {Threei} I had about 10 competing comebacks to that one
[09:53] {magoo} oh oh
[09:54] {magoo} lol
[09:54] {lars} till i get comfortable with risk and probability
[09:54] {Threei} and you have no idea what effort and self-control it took me to refrain :)
[09:54] {magoo} lars..dino mentioned this 2 me monthsago...size down..mkt to wippy..good plays getting rinsed
[09:55] {magoo} give me at least 1 boss
[09:55] {lars} you guys are awesome though
[09:55] {lars} i checked a few sites... your the best
[09:55] {Threei} thank you lars, we believe so too
[09:55] {magoo} did u ever go to my site??
[09:55] {Threei} ok mags, this one is the most polite:
[09:56] {magoo} oy
[09:56] {lars} hmmm no...
[09:56] {magoo} GOOD
[09:56] {lars} maybe
[09:56] {lars} :)
[09:56] {Threei} "they don't make glasses so deep-pink that I need to find anything nice about you" VBG}
[09:57] {Threei} trust me, the remaining 9 are way way worse {G}
[09:57] {magoo} give me a worse one/...i respond better to negativity
[09:57] {Threei} lol
[09:58] {Threei} let's see if 101 acts as rejecting resistance for USO
[09:58] {Threei} if so, UAUA is play
[09:58] {Threei} reminder, what we want to see is sharp long red bar on USO
[09:58] {Threei} and UAUA giving delay for entry
[09:59] {lars} that worked great yesterday by the way
[09:59] {magoo} what is UAUA again,seriouslty?
[09:59] {Threei} airline
[09:59] {Threei} United
[09:59] {magoo} man..am i a daytrader or what?
[09:59] {Threei} established pattern of moving in inverted relation to oil
[09:59] {magoo} i truly do not know even the companies we hit repeadily
[09:59] {lars} lol magoo
[10:00] {Threei} I don't know most of them either :)
[10:00] {lars} it shows on my chart thats how i know
[10:00] {Threei} it's just that some names become players because of certain ceircumstances
[10:00] {Threei} and familiarizing myself with ceircumstances I come to an idea of aa trade
[10:01] {Threei} in the rest of cases I simply go wirth setups as they form
[10:01] {Threei} what does SYMC do?
[10:01] {Threei} {shrug}
[10:01] {Threei} day trader's answer:
[10:01] {lars} anti virus
[10:01] {Threei} it formed JBE and made us money
[10:01] {Threei} ah, it's Symantec?
[10:02] {lars} believe so
[10:02] {Threei} cool... I use their product AND make money of their stock?
[10:02] {lars} :)
[10:02] {Threei} double use? I love the company, lol
[10:03] {Threei} this USO/UAUA move was not very useable to me
[10:06] {kazaam} PCLN?
[10:06] {Threei} gosh... how do you manage to select stocks that move 50 cents in a single breath? :)
[10:06] {lars} USO new low
[10:06] {kazaam} lol
[10:07] {Threei} let'
[10:07] {Threei} s see how far UAUA can follow it
[10:08] {Threei} 10:06 USO bar was good enough for entry, 8.52 - .53 was available
[10:08] {Threei} I would expect it to be much higher already
[10:08] {Threei} new low USO but no new high UAUA
[10:09] {Threei} pattern maybe dying
[10:09] {lars} UAUA doesnt want to crack 8.60
[10:10] {Threei} check other airlines to see if the pattern stops working for all of them or its UAUA specific
[10:10] {Threei} NWA, DAL
[10:10] {Threei} I don't see any of them making new high on new USO low
[10:11] {Threei} so there is a good chance this trading idea is on its last leg
[10:11] {dptl} skyw may be
[10:12] {dptl} also air
[10:12] {Threei} same chart
[10:12] {lars} 100 USO support.... for now....
[10:12] {Threei} JBLU interesting chart for 5.50 break
[10:13] {Threei} SNDK
[10:14] {Threei} .26 long
[10:14] {Threei} under .15 stop
[10:15] {magoo} WOW alxn
[10:21] {kazaam} any ideas for HK?
[10:22] {Threei} range 32 - 32.50...
[10:22] {Threei} a bit too wide to play break
[10:22] {Threei} stop to .18 SNDK
[10:23] {Threei} don't want to give them breathing room as market moves farther from opening
[10:24] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE ECON ADVISOR LAZEAR: CURRENT DATA SHOWS THAT THE STIMULUS PACKAGE IS WORKING - CNBC INTERVIEW
[10:25] {peterg} I am very stimulated
[10:26] {Threei} FNM 12 break long
[10:26] {Threei} .85 stop
[10:27] {Threei} .89 stop
[10:28] {magoo} in
[10:30] {esemde} I'm here....all be it on my kids computor....but i'm here
[10:30] {Threei} ese :)
[10:31] {esemde} I hate computors!!!!....always somethin ...always somethin
[10:31] {Threei} FNM, feel free to take scalp
[10:31] {Threei} hate how long it takes
[10:34] {magoo} what about SNDK?
[10:35] {Threei} with this one I am more comfortable
[10:35] {magoo} i in fnm 12..u saying cut flat?
[10:35] {Threei} it doesn't have a history of sudden deep drops
[10:35] {Threei} I actually meant taking scalp when it was .07- .09
[10:36] {magoo} i am/was wait .14
[10:37] {Threei} out SNDK
[10:42] {lars} out half fnm
[10:44] {lars} fnm target?
[10:44] {magoo} im gettin out here
[10:44] {magoo} out .18, TY vad
[10:45] {magoo} lars ..it prob breathe
[10:45] {Threei} can't tell really lars
[10:46] {lars} out .14 ave thx!
[10:46] {magoo} out sndk .23..lil loss..no lunch
[10:46] {magoo} im on diet anywho
[10:49] {Threei} FRE
[10:49] {Threei} WILL DOUBLE INCENTIVES TO MORTGAGE SERVICER COMPANIES WHO ASSIST BORROWERS IN AVOIDING FORECLOSURE
[10:49] {Threei} {FNM}
[10:58] {kazaam} sbux?
[10:59] {Threei} 15 break if consolidates a bit here
[11:00] {Threei} right away without couple shallow pullbacks first - not sure
[11:02] {kazaam} if oil doesn't drop i wonder if the market will be able to break yesterdays highs
[11:10] {Threei} AGIX move is out of another era
[11:11] {esemde} do penny stocks not normally move like that in one day Vad?
[11:11] {esemde} don't play them so I don't know
[11:13] {Threei} well... in this market, no :)
[11:13] {Threei} there was time they posted incredible moves
[11:13] {Threei} long ago
[11:13] {Threei} 1000 years b.c
[11:14] {Threei} used to be quite a source of profits, considering you could easily buy 5-20 K
[11:15] {Threei} FNM bounce zone closer to 12
[11:16] {Threei} actually, missed it already
[11:16] {Threei} slept through a drop
[11:18] {magoo} [11:17] {Threei} slept through a drop
[11:18] {magoo} u bastard he he
[11:22] {Threei} REPORTEDLY IRAN HAS CUT IDLEING PERSIAN GULF TANKERS BY HALF
[11:22] {Threei} {USO}
[11:22] {Threei} no buyers?
[11:22] {Threei} world has more oil than it needs?
[11:23] {lars} or refiners cant use heavy oil?
[11:23] {Threei} REPORTEDLY IRAN HAS CUT IDLING PERSIAN GULF TANKERS BY HALF TO 5 SHIPS - UNCONFIRMED REPORT CITING TRACKING DATA
[11:23] {Threei} - sent 3 supertankers to Suez canal and one to Saudi Arabia
[11:23] {Threei} *This story was originally posted to clients entitled to Global Equities{USO}
[11:28] {magoo} sh rimm here .08
[11:35] {peterg} nice,lkg gd
[11:36] {magoo} ciover here .75, +.33
[11:36] {kazaam} nj
[11:36] {kazaam} why does j look like i
[11:36] {kazaam} J
[11:36] {Chaeron} hi all... good one magoo
[11:37] {magoo} chaer baby:)
[11:38] {peterg} wanna do it again?
[11:38] {esemde} CCCCCHHHH BABY!!!!!!!
[11:38] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:38] {Chaeron} heya ese, Threei
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:43] {laserdave1} before anyone gets a chance
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:44] {Chaeron} niiiiiiiiiiice
[11:44] {Chaeron} :)
[11:44] {laserdave1} ya sneak attack
[11:44] {laserdave1} u guys are usually so fast
06[11:45] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[11:45] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[11:45] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:45] {laserdave1} nice
[11:46] {peterg} love that fresh fish smell
[11:46] {Chaeron} Threei's asleep :)
[11:46] {Chaeron} can't blame him :)
[11:46] {Threei} hmm...?
[11:46] {Threei} where am I?
[11:46] {Threei} who is here?
[12:09] {kazaam} TAP?
[12:09] {Threei} no read
[12:10] {kazaam} ty
[12:11] {Threei} break of 54 or short of it, has equal chance of working
[12:13] {kazaam} do you see that spike of volume on TAP?
[12:13] {kazaam} what does that generally mean when its at a level like that?
[12:14] {Threei} not much
[12:14] {Threei} single bar weather not maketh
[12:14] {kazaam} gotcha
[12:14] {Threei} could be some block taken out
[12:18] {magoo} rimm sh
[12:18] {magoo} risky..small
[12:19] {magoo} .30
[12:20] {magoo} .56 stop
[12:20] {magoo} layout either .08 or 122.87
[12:21] {magoo} sigh
[12:22] {magoo} stopped
[12:53] {dptl} mhgc?
[13:01] {Threei} tough one
[13:01] {Threei} mostly because of general market sleepiness
[13:02] {dptl} ye looks like need market help
[13:03] {Threei} US TREASURY SEC. PAULSON: STIMULUS PACKAGE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT GDP IN 2H08; HOUSING STARTS MAY REMAIN WEAK THROUGH 2008, RECOVERY WILL TAKE MONTHS, NOT YEARS
[13:03] {Threei} - notes there are no new plans to help FNM and FRE
[13:03] {Threei} - Expects foreclosures and elevated inventory to stay elevated through 2009{FNM FRE}
[13:09] {Threei} SEC'S COX: SHORT SELLING RULE HAS REDUCED ABUSIVE PRACTICES, WILL EXPAND THE RULES OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS
[13:09] {Threei} - Notes the SEC is cooperating with the Fed on financial regulations.
[13:11] {Threei} 12.20 break FNM... if market helps
[13:21] {dptl} got to go...have a good rest of the day all...see ya tomorrow
[13:21] {Threei} take care dp
[13:22] {hawkfan4} cya dp
[13:23] {kazaam} vad, your IF I WERE SMARTER exercise is perfect
[13:24] {Threei} :)
[13:24] {kazaam} fast and simple
[13:26] {Threei} that's me
[13:26] {Threei} simple
06[13:35] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:35] {Threei} and sometimes violent
[13:35] {Threei} particularly when I bored
06[13:41] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:41] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:42] * magoo slaps Roman around a bit with a large trout
06[13:42] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[13:42] {Threei} hmmm... magoo got tired?
[13:42] {Threei} I expected slapping rampage to continue through the whole list
[13:43] {Threei} instead he fell asleep with trout in hand after 4 slaps
[13:44] {magoo} strategic slapping
[13:45] {Threei} interersting strategy...
[13:45] {magoo} u should tru it lol
[13:58] {magoo} vad its timner for my daily question
[13:58] {Threei} down
[13:59] {magoo} lol
[13:59] {Threei} :)
[13:59] {magoo} thats it
06[14:00] * Threei reads in magoo's mind: "short at will!!"
[14:03] {magoo} lazer dcc
[14:04] {magoo} sh rimm small .64
[14:09] {magoo} dqam..stopped..thats twice
[14:44] {Threei} WM UPDATE: MOVES HIGHER AFTER TOSCAFUND DISCLOSES 6% PASSIVE STAKE - FILING
[14:48] {Threei} DEFENSE SECRETARY GATES: THERE IS A 'REAL POSSIBILITY' OF WITHDRAWING SOME MORE TROOPS FROM IRAQ
[14:48] {Threei} - Joint Chiefs Mullen: conditions have 'dramatically improved' in Iraq
[15:14] {kazaam} today made turtle racing look like formula 1
[15:14] {lars} lol
[15:16] {Threei} imagine how we handled whole summers of such
[15:17] {Threei} this slowness came about just last week, and only after couple active hours in the morning
[15:17] {kazaam} its seems the best way to play the summer would be to trade the morning and then take the rest of the day off....or is that just offensively lazy
[15:17] {Threei} no such thing as offensively lazy
[15:17] {Threei} lazy is good
[15:17] {Threei} in my eyes at least
[15:18] {Threei} don't know... I still prefer to be here and watch things
[15:18] {Threei} you never know when a company with $1 stock announces total cancer cure
[15:19] {Threei} FORMER FED CHMN GREENSPAN: ECONOMY IS HOLDING UP WELL, STRENGTH IS A 'SURPRISE' - CNBC
[15:20] {Threei} he forgot to add "despite my best efforts"
[15:28] {esemde} I'm with Vad....whenever I can.....just hang in there....ya just never know when the next cure all will come around
[15:31] {Threei} put one name in your memory for the more favorable market and for when it starts making its move
[15:31] {Threei} VVUS
[15:31] {Threei} HAVE A LOOK AT DAILY
[15:31] {Threei} nice ascending triangle shaping
[15:31] {Threei} holding xloselty below 52 week high
[15:32] {magoo} vad..nice sell feel
[15:32] {Threei} Greenspan continues
[15:32] {Threei} - Notes that we are 'nowhere near the bottom' in terms of household prices.
[15:32] {Threei} - still sees 50/50 chance for recession, though feels more inclined to believe the US is headed for a recession.
[15:32] {Threei} - believes that ultimately Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be nationalized, the GSE's are a 'major accident waiting to happen.'{FRE FNM}
[15:33] {Threei} send him a duct tape someone
[15:33] {Threei} this comment of his on FRE/FNM just tanked both
[15:34] {lars} wondered why big drop
[15:34] {Threei} 'cause of big mouth
[15:36] {lars} ya... better he just keeps quiet
[15:36] {Threei} sad thing is, we hear these things now from the man who engineered current crisis
[15:37] {lars} plus faith is sketchy with Ben
[15:38] {Threei} let's drop rates to historical lows and keep them there, let's not regulate lending practices and let's not regulate the process of motrgage securitization and consequent derivatives trading - signed: Greenspantrading
[15:38] {Threei} result - housing bubble born and left unchecked
[15:38] {lars} sad but true
[15:44] {Threei} mags... ever reshorted RIMM?
[15:46] {magoo} several
[15:46] {magoo} right now too
[15:47] {magoo} sh from .03
[15:47] {Threei} :)
[15:51] {magoo} cov here .58
[15:51] {magoo} TY
[15:51] {Threei} good one
[15:52] {Threei} US SENATOR GRASSLEY: OIL SPECULATION INCREASE IN TAXES COULD AFFECT HEDGE FUNDS
[15:52] {Threei} {USO}
[15:53] {Threei} okay guys, thank you all,
[15:53] {Threei} not very active but fairly nice day
[15:53] {Threei} have a good evening
[15:53] {Threei} see you all tomorrow
[15:53] {lars} thx Vad... good day
[15:53] {peterg} bye for now
[15:55] {magoo} ty vad..c u mortrow
[15:56] {magoo} thanx all
[15:57] {lars} tomorrow magoo :)
[15:58] {magoo} good job lars..u da man!!
[15:58] {fernp} bye
[15:59] {magoo} femp:)
[15:59] {magoo} peterg:)
[08:04] {Threei} MA
[08:04] {Threei} REPORTS Q2 $2.11 V $2.02E, R $1.2B V $1.21BE
[08:04] {Threei} - Q2 Charge volume +15.7%{V AXP XLF TLT}
[08:11] {Threei} PREVIEW: US INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS DATA DUE OUT AT 8:30 AM ET
[08:11] {Threei} - Expectations for initial claims are 393K v prior release of 406K.
[08:11] {Threei} - Continuing claims seen at 3.150M v prior 3.017M.
[08:11] {Threei} PREVIEW: Q2 EMPLOYMENT COST INDEX EXPECTED AT 8:30AM
[08:11] {Threei} - consensus expectations at 0.7% v 0.7% last
[08:11] {Threei} PREVIEW: Q2 ADVANCED GDP ANNUALIZED AND PERSONAL CONSUMPTION DUE AT 8:30 AM
[08:11] {Threei} Consensus expectations:
[08:11] {Threei} - GDP Annualized: 2.3% v 1.0% prior
[08:11] {Threei} - Personal Consumption: 1.7% v 1.1% prior
[08:12] {Threei} PREVIEW: Q2 ADVANCED GDP PRICE INDEX AND CORE PCE Q/Q DUE AT 8:30 AM
[08:12] {Threei} Consensus expectations:
[08:12] {Threei} - GDP Price Index: 2.4% v 2.7% last
[08:12] {Threei} - Core PCE Q/Q: 2.0% v 2.3% last
[08:30] {Threei} INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 448K V 393KE;
[08:30] {Threei} CONTINUING CLAIMS: 3.282M V 3.150ME
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Jobless Claims revised from 406K to 404K
[08:30] {Threei} Q2 ADVANCED GDP ANNUALIZED: 1.9% V 2.3%E; PERSONAL CONSUMPTION: 1.5% V 1.7%E
[08:31] {Threei} Q2 ADVANCED GDP PRICE INDEX: 1.2% V 2.4%E; CORE PCE Q/Q: 2.1% V 2.0%E
[08:56] {judijim} good morning all
[08:56] {Threei} Good morning
[09:08] {dptl} good morning all
[09:10] {Threei} dp :)
[09:13] {fernp} Good morning RT
[09:14] {Threei} fern :)
[09:16] {magoo} .,d.,jl,srgjlkj.ksadjl
[09:16] {Threei} lkf0578y7ngksyl?
[09:17] {cosmo} HOLX takes back 19 fwiw
[09:18] {cosmo} ...should hold 19 imo
[09:18] {magoo} so jiobs number stinx eh?
[09:18] {Threei} sure does
[09:19] {Threei} so let's rally
[09:19] {Threei} bad is new good, have you heard?
[09:19] {cosmo} bad is no good i thot
[09:19] {Threei} that's canceled
[09:20] {cosmo} oh
[09:22] {cosmo} HOLX is bad
[09:27] {tomg} gm all
[09:27] {Threei} tom :)
[09:27] {magoo} what u watchin vad?
[09:27] {Threei} so far usual suspects
[09:31] {magoo} are we down 108?
[09:31] {Threei} 115
[09:37] {peterg} gm group
[09:37] {Threei} peter :)
[09:37] {magoo} sheesh..fslr peaked after bell 311..
[09:37] {magoo} gave aallback
[09:37] {Threei} FNM
[09:37] {Threei} .61 long
[09:37] {Threei} .45 stop
[09:37] {magoo} in .58
[09:38] {magoo} l aapl .50
[09:40] {Threei} stop to .49
[09:41] {magoo} vad, rimm sh scalp?look
[09:41] {Threei} no read on a short side
[09:41] {Threei} no setup
[09:41] {magoo} well..will breathe
[09:41] {Threei} I don't short just because it's up a lot
[09:42] {Threei} will, of course,... but how do you tell from where?
[09:42] {magoo} a red candle is coming
[09:42] {magoo} out aaple .24 here
[09:42] {magoo} +.74
[09:42] {Threei} full buck up while we exchange
[09:43] {Threei} stop to .55 FNM
[09:43] {cosmo} HOLX wants 20 hod
[09:43] {Threei} don't want to wait too long for it to work
[09:43] {lars} nice job aapl magoo :)
[09:43] {Threei} market moves, either FNM follows or let's limit our risk
[09:44] {magoo} lars...if play aapl rimm small shares like 300 - 500 ok?
[09:44] {magoo} minus 200 bux is standard stop i use
[09:44] {lars} understood thx
[09:45] {Threei} SYMC
[09:45] {magoo} little room to avoid rinse..small shares to control risk
[09:45] {Threei} 21 break long
[09:45] {Threei} JULY CHICAGO PURCHASING MANAGER'S INDEX: 50.8 V 49.0E
[09:45] {magoo} in
[09:45] {magoo} .99
[09:45] {Threei} .89 stop
[09:46] {magoo} vasd right..rimm would habve got me short
[09:46] {Roman} 21 long ESLR
[09:46] {Roman} 21 small
[09:47] {magoo} vad..news RIMM?
[09:47] {Threei} 07/30/08 06:17pm [RIMM] Bullish mention on Jim Cramer's MAD MONEY - CNBC
[09:47] {magoo} ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:48] {Threei} 1:1 FNM
[09:48] {Threei} (fiiinally)
[09:48] {Threei} took its sweet time
[09:48] {Threei} 1:1 SYMC
[09:49] {Threei} 1:2
[09:49] {Threei} I am out
[09:49] {magoo} me out now .23 TY BOSS
[09:49] {Threei} welcome
[09:49] {kazaam} alxn?
[09:49] {magoo} out here .75 FNM...ssob yt
[09:49] {Threei} 93 break
[09:50] {Threei} very thin
[09:50] {lars} + .29 symc thx!
[09:50] {Threei} volatility is beyond my risk tolerance
[09:50] {Threei} lars :)
[09:50] {magoo} wtg lars
[09:50] {lars} still half in fnm
[09:51] {Threei} FNM 1:2
[09:51] {Threei} can I go home?
[09:51] {magoo} what u think??
[09:51] {lars} no.... please no :)
[09:51] {Threei} lol
[09:51] {Threei} after morning activity dies I am going to call stops only :)
06[09:52] * Threei is trying to blackmail his way to a day off
[09:52] {lars} + .30 fnm 2 for 2 Vad!
[09:52] {Threei} good job lars
[09:52] {peterg} have to agree; I am stumbling over my fingers
[09:52] {Threei} especially satistfying to see such perfomance from newer mebemrs
[09:53] {magoo} sigh...he never once said nice thing about magoo
[09:53] {lars} thx... i am playing very small shares now
[09:53] {Threei} ugh mags
[09:53] {Threei} I had about 10 competing comebacks to that one
[09:53] {magoo} oh oh
[09:54] {magoo} lol
[09:54] {lars} till i get comfortable with risk and probability
[09:54] {Threei} and you have no idea what effort and self-control it took me to refrain :)
[09:54] {magoo} lars..dino mentioned this 2 me monthsago...size down..mkt to wippy..good plays getting rinsed
[09:55] {magoo} give me at least 1 boss
[09:55] {lars} you guys are awesome though
[09:55] {lars} i checked a few sites... your the best
[09:55] {Threei} thank you lars, we believe so too
[09:55] {magoo} did u ever go to my site??
[09:55] {Threei} ok mags, this one is the most polite:
[09:56] {magoo} oy
[09:56] {lars} hmmm no...
[09:56] {magoo} GOOD
[09:56] {lars} maybe
[09:56] {lars} :)
[09:56] {Threei} "they don't make glasses so deep-pink that I need to find anything nice about you" VBG}
[09:57] {Threei} trust me, the remaining 9 are way way worse {G}
[09:57] {magoo} give me a worse one/...i respond better to negativity
[09:57] {Threei} lol
[09:58] {Threei} let's see if 101 acts as rejecting resistance for USO
[09:58] {Threei} if so, UAUA is play
[09:58] {Threei} reminder, what we want to see is sharp long red bar on USO
[09:58] {Threei} and UAUA giving delay for entry
[09:59] {lars} that worked great yesterday by the way
[09:59] {magoo} what is UAUA again,seriouslty?
[09:59] {Threei} airline
[09:59] {Threei} United
[09:59] {magoo} man..am i a daytrader or what?
[09:59] {Threei} established pattern of moving in inverted relation to oil
[09:59] {magoo} i truly do not know even the companies we hit repeadily
[09:59] {lars} lol magoo
[10:00] {Threei} I don't know most of them either :)
[10:00] {lars} it shows on my chart thats how i know
[10:00] {Threei} it's just that some names become players because of certain ceircumstances
[10:00] {Threei} and familiarizing myself with ceircumstances I come to an idea of aa trade
[10:01] {Threei} in the rest of cases I simply go wirth setups as they form
[10:01] {Threei} what does SYMC do?
[10:01] {Threei} {shrug}
[10:01] {Threei} day trader's answer:
[10:01] {lars} anti virus
[10:01] {Threei} it formed JBE and made us money
[10:01] {Threei} ah, it's Symantec?
[10:02] {lars} believe so
[10:02] {Threei} cool... I use their product AND make money of their stock?
[10:02] {lars} :)
[10:02] {Threei} double use? I love the company, lol
[10:03] {Threei} this USO/UAUA move was not very useable to me
[10:06] {kazaam} PCLN?
[10:06] {Threei} gosh... how do you manage to select stocks that move 50 cents in a single breath? :)
[10:06] {lars} USO new low
[10:06] {kazaam} lol
[10:07] {Threei} let'
[10:07] {Threei} s see how far UAUA can follow it
[10:08] {Threei} 10:06 USO bar was good enough for entry, 8.52 - .53 was available
[10:08] {Threei} I would expect it to be much higher already
[10:08] {Threei} new low USO but no new high UAUA
[10:09] {Threei} pattern maybe dying
[10:09] {lars} UAUA doesnt want to crack 8.60
[10:10] {Threei} check other airlines to see if the pattern stops working for all of them or its UAUA specific
[10:10] {Threei} NWA, DAL
[10:10] {Threei} I don't see any of them making new high on new USO low
[10:11] {Threei} so there is a good chance this trading idea is on its last leg
[10:11] {dptl} skyw may be
[10:12] {dptl} also air
[10:12] {Threei} same chart
[10:12] {lars} 100 USO support.... for now....
[10:12] {Threei} JBLU interesting chart for 5.50 break
[10:13] {Threei} SNDK
[10:14] {Threei} .26 long
[10:14] {Threei} under .15 stop
[10:15] {magoo} WOW alxn
[10:21] {kazaam} any ideas for HK?
[10:22] {Threei} range 32 - 32.50...
[10:22] {Threei} a bit too wide to play break
[10:22] {Threei} stop to .18 SNDK
[10:23] {Threei} don't want to give them breathing room as market moves farther from opening
[10:24] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE ECON ADVISOR LAZEAR: CURRENT DATA SHOWS THAT THE STIMULUS PACKAGE IS WORKING - CNBC INTERVIEW
[10:25] {peterg} I am very stimulated
[10:26] {Threei} FNM 12 break long
[10:26] {Threei} .85 stop
[10:27] {Threei} .89 stop
[10:28] {magoo} in
[10:30] {esemde} I'm here....all be it on my kids computor....but i'm here
[10:30] {Threei} ese :)
[10:31] {esemde} I hate computors!!!!....always somethin ...always somethin
[10:31] {Threei} FNM, feel free to take scalp
[10:31] {Threei} hate how long it takes
[10:34] {magoo} what about SNDK?
[10:35] {Threei} with this one I am more comfortable
[10:35] {magoo} i in fnm 12..u saying cut flat?
[10:35] {Threei} it doesn't have a history of sudden deep drops
[10:35] {Threei} I actually meant taking scalp when it was .07- .09
[10:36] {magoo} i am/was wait .14
[10:37] {Threei} out SNDK
[10:42] {lars} out half fnm
[10:44] {lars} fnm target?
[10:44] {magoo} im gettin out here
[10:44] {magoo} out .18, TY vad
[10:45] {magoo} lars ..it prob breathe
[10:45] {Threei} can't tell really lars
[10:46] {lars} out .14 ave thx!
[10:46] {magoo} out sndk .23..lil loss..no lunch
[10:46] {magoo} im on diet anywho
[10:49] {Threei} FRE
[10:49] {Threei} WILL DOUBLE INCENTIVES TO MORTGAGE SERVICER COMPANIES WHO ASSIST BORROWERS IN AVOIDING FORECLOSURE
[10:49] {Threei} {FNM}
[10:58] {kazaam} sbux?
[10:59] {Threei} 15 break if consolidates a bit here
[11:00] {Threei} right away without couple shallow pullbacks first - not sure
[11:02] {kazaam} if oil doesn't drop i wonder if the market will be able to break yesterdays highs
[11:10] {Threei} AGIX move is out of another era
[11:11] {esemde} do penny stocks not normally move like that in one day Vad?
[11:11] {esemde} don't play them so I don't know
[11:13] {Threei} well... in this market, no :)
[11:13] {Threei} there was time they posted incredible moves
[11:13] {Threei} long ago
[11:13] {Threei} 1000 years b.c
[11:14] {Threei} used to be quite a source of profits, considering you could easily buy 5-20 K
[11:15] {Threei} FNM bounce zone closer to 12
[11:16] {Threei} actually, missed it already
[11:16] {Threei} slept through a drop
[11:18] {magoo} [11:17] {Threei} slept through a drop
[11:18] {magoo} u bastard he he
[11:22] {Threei} REPORTEDLY IRAN HAS CUT IDLEING PERSIAN GULF TANKERS BY HALF
[11:22] {Threei} {USO}
[11:22] {Threei} no buyers?
[11:22] {Threei} world has more oil than it needs?
[11:23] {lars} or refiners cant use heavy oil?
[11:23] {Threei} REPORTEDLY IRAN HAS CUT IDLING PERSIAN GULF TANKERS BY HALF TO 5 SHIPS - UNCONFIRMED REPORT CITING TRACKING DATA
[11:23] {Threei} - sent 3 supertankers to Suez canal and one to Saudi Arabia
[11:23] {Threei} *This story was originally posted to clients entitled to Global Equities{USO}
[11:28] {magoo} sh rimm here .08
[11:35] {peterg} nice,lkg gd
[11:36] {magoo} ciover here .75, +.33
[11:36] {kazaam} nj
[11:36] {kazaam} why does j look like i
[11:36] {kazaam} J
[11:36] {Chaeron} hi all... good one magoo
[11:37] {magoo} chaer baby:)
[11:38] {peterg} wanna do it again?
[11:38] {esemde} CCCCCHHHH BABY!!!!!!!
[11:38] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:38] {Chaeron} heya ese, Threei
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:43] {laserdave1} before anyone gets a chance
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
06[11:43] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:44] {Chaeron} niiiiiiiiiiice
[11:44] {Chaeron} :)
[11:44] {laserdave1} ya sneak attack
[11:44] {laserdave1} u guys are usually so fast
06[11:45] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[11:45] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[11:45] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:45] {laserdave1} nice
[11:46] {peterg} love that fresh fish smell
[11:46] {Chaeron} Threei's asleep :)
[11:46] {Chaeron} can't blame him :)
[11:46] {Threei} hmm...?
[11:46] {Threei} where am I?
[11:46] {Threei} who is here?
[12:09] {kazaam} TAP?
[12:09] {Threei} no read
[12:10] {kazaam} ty
[12:11] {Threei} break of 54 or short of it, has equal chance of working
[12:13] {kazaam} do you see that spike of volume on TAP?
[12:13] {kazaam} what does that generally mean when its at a level like that?
[12:14] {Threei} not much
[12:14] {Threei} single bar weather not maketh
[12:14] {kazaam} gotcha
[12:14] {Threei} could be some block taken out
[12:18] {magoo} rimm sh
[12:18] {magoo} risky..small
[12:19] {magoo} .30
[12:20] {magoo} .56 stop
[12:20] {magoo} layout either .08 or 122.87
[12:21] {magoo} sigh
[12:22] {magoo} stopped
[12:53] {dptl} mhgc?
[13:01] {Threei} tough one
[13:01] {Threei} mostly because of general market sleepiness
[13:02] {dptl} ye looks like need market help
[13:03] {Threei} US TREASURY SEC. PAULSON: STIMULUS PACKAGE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT GDP IN 2H08; HOUSING STARTS MAY REMAIN WEAK THROUGH 2008, RECOVERY WILL TAKE MONTHS, NOT YEARS
[13:03] {Threei} - notes there are no new plans to help FNM and FRE
[13:03] {Threei} - Expects foreclosures and elevated inventory to stay elevated through 2009{FNM FRE}
[13:09] {Threei} SEC'S COX: SHORT SELLING RULE HAS REDUCED ABUSIVE PRACTICES, WILL EXPAND THE RULES OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS
[13:09] {Threei} - Notes the SEC is cooperating with the Fed on financial regulations.
[13:11] {Threei} 12.20 break FNM... if market helps
[13:21] {dptl} got to go...have a good rest of the day all...see ya tomorrow
[13:21] {Threei} take care dp
[13:22] {hawkfan4} cya dp
[13:23] {kazaam} vad, your IF I WERE SMARTER exercise is perfect
[13:24] {Threei} :)
[13:24] {kazaam} fast and simple
[13:26] {Threei} that's me
[13:26] {Threei} simple
06[13:35] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:35] {Threei} and sometimes violent
[13:35] {Threei} particularly when I bored
06[13:41] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:41] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:42] * magoo slaps Roman around a bit with a large trout
06[13:42] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[13:42] {Threei} hmmm... magoo got tired?
[13:42] {Threei} I expected slapping rampage to continue through the whole list
[13:43] {Threei} instead he fell asleep with trout in hand after 4 slaps
[13:44] {magoo} strategic slapping
[13:45] {Threei} interersting strategy...
[13:45] {magoo} u should tru it lol
[13:58] {magoo} vad its timner for my daily question
[13:58] {Threei} down
[13:59] {magoo} lol
[13:59] {Threei} :)
[13:59] {magoo} thats it
06[14:00] * Threei reads in magoo's mind: "short at will!!"
[14:03] {magoo} lazer dcc
[14:04] {magoo} sh rimm small .64
[14:09] {magoo} dqam..stopped..thats twice
[14:44] {Threei} WM UPDATE: MOVES HIGHER AFTER TOSCAFUND DISCLOSES 6% PASSIVE STAKE - FILING
[14:48] {Threei} DEFENSE SECRETARY GATES: THERE IS A 'REAL POSSIBILITY' OF WITHDRAWING SOME MORE TROOPS FROM IRAQ
[14:48] {Threei} - Joint Chiefs Mullen: conditions have 'dramatically improved' in Iraq
[15:14] {kazaam} today made turtle racing look like formula 1
[15:14] {lars} lol
[15:16] {Threei} imagine how we handled whole summers of such
[15:17] {Threei} this slowness came about just last week, and only after couple active hours in the morning
[15:17] {kazaam} its seems the best way to play the summer would be to trade the morning and then take the rest of the day off....or is that just offensively lazy
[15:17] {Threei} no such thing as offensively lazy
[15:17] {Threei} lazy is good
[15:17] {Threei} in my eyes at least
[15:18] {Threei} don't know... I still prefer to be here and watch things
[15:18] {Threei} you never know when a company with $1 stock announces total cancer cure
[15:19] {Threei} FORMER FED CHMN GREENSPAN: ECONOMY IS HOLDING UP WELL, STRENGTH IS A 'SURPRISE' - CNBC
[15:20] {Threei} he forgot to add "despite my best efforts"
[15:28] {esemde} I'm with Vad....whenever I can.....just hang in there....ya just never know when the next cure all will come around
[15:31] {Threei} put one name in your memory for the more favorable market and for when it starts making its move
[15:31] {Threei} VVUS
[15:31] {Threei} HAVE A LOOK AT DAILY
[15:31] {Threei} nice ascending triangle shaping
[15:31] {Threei} holding xloselty below 52 week high
[15:32] {magoo} vad..nice sell feel
[15:32] {Threei} Greenspan continues
[15:32] {Threei} - Notes that we are 'nowhere near the bottom' in terms of household prices.
[15:32] {Threei} - still sees 50/50 chance for recession, though feels more inclined to believe the US is headed for a recession.
[15:32] {Threei} - believes that ultimately Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be nationalized, the GSE's are a 'major accident waiting to happen.'{FRE FNM}
[15:33] {Threei} send him a duct tape someone
[15:33] {Threei} this comment of his on FRE/FNM just tanked both
[15:34] {lars} wondered why big drop
[15:34] {Threei} 'cause of big mouth
[15:36] {lars} ya... better he just keeps quiet
[15:36] {Threei} sad thing is, we hear these things now from the man who engineered current crisis
[15:37] {lars} plus faith is sketchy with Ben
[15:38] {Threei} let's drop rates to historical lows and keep them there, let's not regulate lending practices and let's not regulate the process of motrgage securitization and consequent derivatives trading - signed: Greenspantrading
[15:38] {Threei} result - housing bubble born and left unchecked
[15:38] {lars} sad but true
[15:44] {Threei} mags... ever reshorted RIMM?
[15:46] {magoo} several
[15:46] {magoo} right now too
[15:47] {magoo} sh from .03
[15:47] {Threei} :)
[15:51] {magoo} cov here .58
[15:51] {magoo} TY
[15:51] {Threei} good one
[15:52] {Threei} US SENATOR GRASSLEY: OIL SPECULATION INCREASE IN TAXES COULD AFFECT HEDGE FUNDS
[15:52] {Threei} {USO}
[15:53] {Threei} okay guys, thank you all,
[15:53] {Threei} not very active but fairly nice day
[15:53] {Threei} have a good evening
[15:53] {Threei} see you all tomorrow
[15:53] {lars} thx Vad... good day
[15:53] {peterg} bye for now
[15:55] {magoo} ty vad..c u mortrow
[15:56] {magoo} thanx all
[15:57] {lars} tomorrow magoo :)
[15:58] {magoo} good job lars..u da man!!
[15:58] {fernp} bye
[15:59] {magoo} femp:)
[15:59] {magoo} peterg:)
Wednesday, July 30, 2008
Jul 30 2008
Session Time: Wed Jul 30 00:00:00 2008
[08:30] {Threei} [CPST] Capstone Turbine Corp Receives order from HelioFocus for solar-powered microturbine
[08:30] {Threei} - Company will modify its C65 MicroTurbine to operate on solar energy.
[08:32] {hawkfan4} good morning
[08:32] {Threei} Good morning
[08:36] {Threei} HOKU
[08:36] {Threei} SIGN $298M POLYSILICON SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH JIANGXI KINKO
[08:36] {Threei} - Company will deliver solar-grade polysilicon to Kinko Energy over a ten-year period beginning in late-2009.
[08:36] {Threei} - Up to approximately $298M 2may be payable to Hoku during the ten-year period, subject to product deliveries and other conditions. The take-or-pay contract provides for the delivery of predetermined volumes of polysilicon each year, with the first shipment in the second half of 2009 and the remainder over a ten-year period at set prices that will decline throughout the term of the agreement.
[08:36] {Threei} - Under the agreement, Hoku will grant to Kinko Energy a security interest in its polysilicon assets to secure Hoku's obligation to repay $55 million to Kinko Energy as a credit against product shipments over time.
[08:38] {Threei} 07/30/08 08:30am
[08:38] {Threei} [SPIR] Spire Corp Spire Enters Multi-Year Contract with Trina Solar
[08:38] {Threei} - Companies today announced that it has entered into a multi-year, multi-system contract to provide key module line equipment to Trina Solar Limited of the People's Republic of China.
[08:38] {Threei} - Spire will provide Trina Solar with multiple Spi-Sun Simulator 4600 Single Long Pulse (4600 SLP) systems.
[08:38] {Threei} did all solars wait till today to publish news just before FSLR earnings, for double whammy effect?
[08:39] {hawkfan4} sure seems like it. have my eye on JASO. i held UAUA overnight. sold 1/2 +.50
[08:40] {Threei} nice
[08:40] {Threei} gutsy too
[08:41] {hawkfan4} yeah, a little nuts, but lucky
[08:42] {peterg} gm-back to the future with solare, eh?
[08:42] {peterg} solar
[08:42] {Threei} yeah, sspunds like another round with them
[08:42] {Threei} hi peter
[08:47] {magoo} morning
[08:49] {magoo} dsam ELN..after bell i had it short 35.85 and cobvered 34 even..look here....21
[08:51] {cosmo} here comes the sun...?
[08:52] {Threei} magoo, cosmo :)
[09:03] {fernp} Good morning
[09:07] {tomg} gm all
[09:07] {Threei} fern, tom :)
[09:07] {magoo} vad, any news rumors FSLR to beat street?
[09:08] {cosmo} RFMD tests @ 3.33
[09:08] {Threei} 07/29/08 02:37pm [FSLR] Update: solar stocks trading at new highs for the session again after Tomas Weisel makes positve comments about outlook for the rest of the year
[09:13] {magoo} ty
[09:15] {magoo} grmn pummeled vad
[09:15] {Threei} 07:01am [GRMN] Reports Q2 $0.93 v $1.00e; R $911.7 v $956.4Memore.. - Guides FY08 EPS $3.90 v $4.00e; R $3.9B v $4.2Be - Q2 Gross margin 45.8% v 48.2% in Q108 and 50.5% in Q207 (related: TOM2.NV )
[09:18] {cosmo} RFMD tests @ 3.33
[09:19] {cosmo} ... at some point
[09:19] {cosmo} needs to hold 3.20
[09:20] {cosmo} imo
[09:20] {magoo} man, cnbc commentors down right giddy over market today..as in "alls well"
[09:20] {Threei} all isn't?
[09:20] {magoo} just buy and hold..lets DO IT
[09:20] {Threei} and never try to time the market
[09:20] {Threei} leave it to pros
[09:21] {Threei} diversify
[09:21] {Threei} in a long run it always goes up
[09:21] {Threei} any more cliche I missed?
[09:21] {cosmo} even real estate?
[09:22] {Threei} but of course... 10 years from now it'll all be fine
[09:27] {Threei} FNM has a habit of sharp selloff on the open
[09:27] {Threei} worth watching for the bounce
[09:28] {Threei} usually selloff is quite deep, so don't jump on a first pause
[09:29] {Threei} SOLF is not very far from yesterday's close
[09:30] {Threei} high was 14.49
[09:30] {Threei} so if sector moves it's a good candidate
[09:32] {Threei} FNM, nice pullbeck, eh?
[09:32] {Threei} FSLR pullback weights on solars
[09:32] {esemde} morning
[09:32] {Threei} CSIQ, LDK, SOLF
[09:32] {Threei} ese :)
[09:34] {Threei} SOLF .55 long if stays above .40
[09:35] {Threei} but watch FSLR for confirmation
[09:35] {Threei} need its help
[09:36] {magoo} need restart comp
[09:37] {Threei} FNM
[09:37] {Threei} MAY SERIOUS DELINQUENCY MORTGAGE RATE INCREASED TO 1.3%
[09:37] {Threei} see how FSLR continuing seling kept SOLF from break?
[09:40] {esemde} STAR either long at .50 or 14.01
[09:41] {Threei} LDK hald lot long .80 break, stop under .55
[09:41] {Threei} half
[09:43] {Threei} half out
[09:44] {Threei} stop to .75 and let it trade
[09:44] {esemde} missed .50
[09:52] {Threei} FNM .61 long
[09:52] {Threei} .49 stop
[09:52] {esemde} long VPhm .82
[09:52] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[09:53] {Threei} look for deeper pullback now FNM
[09:53] {Threei} if comes closer to 12 or a bit under will be better bounce candidate
[09:57] {Threei} out balance LDK
[09:57] {magoo} beauty vad
[09:57] {Threei} hmmm... thank you... I guess
[10:00] {magoo} why guess?
[10:01] {Threei} I am highly suspsicious about males complimenting my appearance {G}
[10:01] {magoo} :)
[10:06] {esemde} bstop ALXN 90.50 1/3 lot
[10:09] {Threei} AMMD .41 long half lot
[10:09] {Threei} if stays above .20
[10:11] {Threei} JASO
[10:11] {Threei} .26 long
[10:11] {esemde} removed bstop ALXN
[10:11] {Threei} .14 stop
[10:12] {peterg} Jaso at .24
[10:12] {magoo} me too
[10:14] {Threei} offering half .41
[10:14] {magoo} .48 here
[10:16] {Threei} half out
[10:16] {Threei} stop to .19
[10:17] {peterg} out at .45, + .21
[10:17] {esemde} well done all...wish i could say the same about my trading these days....no more holidays for me!
[10:17] {peterg} thks for JASO
[10:18] {Threei} welcome peter
[10:18] {Threei} dino said a few times too ese
[10:18] {Threei} that he has a bit of a rought itme right after vacations
[10:18] {esemde} I can see why.....
[10:19] {esemde} patterns seem to be right must be something in volume i'm missing
[10:19] {Threei} summer...
[10:19] {esemde} true eh!!!
[10:19] {Threei} less crowds - less pattern following
[10:19] {esemde} that was a canadian yea
[10:23] {esemde} out VPHM .82
[10:23] {magoo} so far..overall solarsa disappointmt today
[10:24] {magoo} see...mkt always fools u
[10:24] {esemde} +.00 not moving the way i thought ....NEXT}}}!!!!!!
[10:25] {Threei} how did it fools us?
[10:25] {Threei} fool
[10:25] {Threei} we made an assumption
[10:25] {Threei} checked it out
[10:25] {Threei} it worked somewhat lukewarmly
[10:25] {Threei} no real run but activity was there, enough for two winning trades
[10:26] {magoo} ok
[10:27] {esemde} SINA
[10:27] {Threei} I understand that being focused on my beauty you pay less attention to my brain... but come on, I call two winners and you say I am fooled? :)
[10:28] {magoo} no..not u fooled..i meant we even said last night maybe solars today...mkt sets us up and kind of "kind of " disappoints
[10:28] {esemde} breauty is only skin deep VAD....mags loves you for whats inside....
[10:28] {Threei} lol
[10:28] {Threei} what I got myself into...
[10:30] {peterg} _-=?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\[{[{}]]]]-----!
[10:30] {peterg} only magoo can read this
[10:30] {Threei} I share the sentiment peter
[10:31] {magoo} i see peter using magoocode
[10:31] {peterg} privilege!
[10:31] {peterg} to do so
[10:31] {peterg} sir
[10:34] {magoo} oil inventory #
[10:37] {Threei} DOE CRUDE: -81K V -1.2ME; GASOLINE: -3.5M V +250KE; DISTILLATES: +2.4M V +2ME; UTILIZATION: 87.2% V 87.1%E
[10:37] {Threei} *API Inventory:
[10:37] {Threei} - Crude Inventories: -2.1M
[10:37] {Threei} - Gasoline: -3.8M
[10:37] {Threei} - Distillate: -587K
[10:38] {Threei} watching UAUA for bounce
[10:39] {magoo} in .99
[10:40] {Threei} USO still strong
[10:41] {magoo} yeah
[10:41] {magoo} stopped .78
[10:48] {esemde} long LRCX .61
[10:48] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[10:48] {Threei} quite hectic moves
[10:48] {esemde} what mine....or USO
[10:49] {esemde} stop .40
[10:49] {Threei} USO, market, UAUA
[10:50] {esemde} ahhhhhh
[10:51] {esemde} am tring a pullback instead of a breakout
[10:51] {lars} JASO Target Vad?
[10:51] {magoo} out jaso .56 TY vad
[10:52] {Threei} trying .61 exit
[10:52] {Threei} but agoo probably has right idea
[10:52] {lars} ty
[10:55] {Threei} in UAUA .66
[10:55] {lars} out JASO .58 thanks vad and magoo :)
[10:55] {Threei} .59 stop
[10:55] {Threei} welcome :)
[11:00] {Threei} out
[11:00] {Threei} scalp near .80 was the way to go
[11:02] {Threei} .55 second try
[11:02] {Threei} stop under .50
[11:03] {Threei} half out .65
[11:06] {magoo} in whicha
[11:07] {hawkfan4} me too
[11:07] {Threei} debated taking .77 -.78
[11:07] {Threei} hard to tell
[11:08] {magoo} im thinking 9.06 ..but who knows?
[11:08] {Threei} anyway, stop to breakeven for me for the balance
[11:08] {magoo} where the hex isroman?
[11:09] {Threei} USO helps
[11:09] {Threei} if loses 99 UAUA should be fine
[11:10] {Threei} come on oil, die
[11:11] {Threei} stubborn slimy substance
[11:13] {Threei} stinky too
[11:13] {magoo} its a "cheaty fellow"
[11:15] {Threei} lose that 99 already
[11:18] {Threei} out balance
[11:19] {magoo} im o for 2 on that dog
[11:22] {kazaam} long uso
[11:22] {kazaam} .18
[11:22] {kazaam} sl .98
[11:25] {Threei} in .32
[11:25] {Threei} .25 stop
[11:26] {kazaam} stopped, -.20
[11:26] {hawkfan4} same vad
[11:27] {Threei} half out .42
[11:28] {esemde} out LRCX .88 +.27
[11:28] {Threei} :)
[11:28] {esemde} finally.....
[11:28] {esemde} hmmmmm are pullbacks the way to go?
[11:29] {Threei} feels so, we talked aabout it yesterday
[11:31] {Threei} offering .61
[11:31] {Threei} out
[11:31] {Threei} whew
[11:31] {magoo} uso is cooperating
[11:31] {Threei} finally got this thing right
[11:32] {hawkfan4} beaut...uh, i mean, good one vad :)
[11:32] {Threei} lol
[11:32] {magoo} lol
[11:32] {lars} lol
06[11:32] * magoo slaps lars around a bit with a large trout
[11:32] {magoo} just warming up lars for laser
[11:32] {lars} thx...needed that
[11:32] {lars} :)
[11:35] {Threei} back in .51
[11:36] {Threei} .44 stop
[11:36] {magoo} alright...alrigytttttttttttttt...........in
[11:36] {Threei} lol
[11:36] {Threei} kiss of death
[11:36] {Threei} there you go
[11:37] {magoo} kiss? interesting choice of words
[11:37] {Threei} oops
[11:37] {hawkfan4} lol
[11:37] {Threei} didn't even take stop laughing
[11:37] {Threei} now I did
[11:48] {Threei} watching LDK pullback
[11:50] {Threei} probably worth a try if holding above .50 and if FSLR turns back up
[11:51] {Threei} keep shares small, volatile one
[12:18] {hawkfan4} .
[12:26] {Threei} yawn
[12:27] {Chaeron} good morning all
[12:27] {Threei} chaeron :)
[12:29] {magoo} chaerbroil
[12:30] {peterg} lunchtime
[12:30] {Chaeron} Vad, Mags :) slow day now?
[12:30] {peterg} sure seems like it now, after brief morning rush
[12:33] {Chaeron} thanks peter... working on major project anyway
[12:36] {Threei} oil upward move kind of killed all the enthusiasm
[12:38] {magoo} yeah chaer, mkts stuck
[12:58] {magoo} mkts roll or rebound vad??
[12:58] {Threei} feels like one more round of selling
[13:02] {Threei} FSLR
[13:02] {Threei} HEARING RBC MAKING CAUTIOUS COMMENTS
[13:04] {Chaeron} magoo... left you ad DCC if you're bored
[13:05] {Threei} oil really annoying today
[13:07] {magoo} this pullbk does not bode well
[13:07] {Threei} [12:58] {Threei} feels like one more round of selling
[13:07] {Threei} [13:02] {Threei} FSLR
[13:08] {Threei} in UAUA
[13:08] {Threei} trying for scalp
[13:09] {Threei} out .10
[13:12] {Threei} USO feels topped
[13:12] {Threei} back in UAUA
[13:13] {magoo} where?
[13:13] {Threei} 8
[13:14] {lars} in 8 also
[13:14] {Threei} nice drop USO
[13:15] {Threei} half out UAUA
[13:15] {Threei} this time trying for more than scalp
[13:16] {Threei} ISRAELI PM OLMERT WILL REPORTEDLY RESIGN WHEN NEW KADIMA PARTY LEADER HAS BEEN CHOSEN
[13:16] {Threei} - Note the speculated successor is the Transportation Minister Shaul Mofax, who has in the past been attributed to hawkish comments with regards to the Iranian issue{USD/ILS USO}
[13:17] {Threei} there we go
[13:17] {Chaeron} wow
[13:17] {Chaeron} You saw that coming weeks ago
[13:17] {Threei} same guy who made comments a while ago about unavoidable attack on Iran
[13:17] {Threei} that's why oil is happy today I guess
[13:18] {Threei} that Israel is going to be a diving force in oil market with their comments and (hhope not) actions?
[13:21] {magoo} looked at your dcc chaer, thanx..cool manyanas
[13:29] {Threei} out second half
[13:30] {Threei} maybe prematurely but don't want to get caught
[13:30] {magoo} i keeop losing on that pig
[13:30] {magoo} move to anothe paaalllllllleeeeeease
[13:31] {magoo} 4 f'n stops
[13:51] {jmb} a late Thanks for UAUA Vad
[13:55] {Threei} welcome jmb
06[13:59] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[14:00] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[14:03] * Threei shows restraint... trying to control his violent instincts
[14:09] {laserdave1} I am so proud of you Vad
[14:09] {Threei} you are?
[14:09] {laserdave1} ya restraint is awesome
[14:10] {laserdave1} i know how bad you want to swing that trout
[14:10] {Threei} great, mission is accomplished, now I deserve some reward
06[14:10] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[14:10] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:10] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[14:10] {Threei} lol
[14:10] {Chaeron} just a Three Stoges type slap fest
[14:10] {Chaeron} Stoogess that is
[14:10] {lars} lol
[14:10] {Chaeron} shhhheeeeeeesh
[14:10] {Chaeron} Take 3 - "Stooges"
[14:11] {Chaeron} Vad resembles "Curly"
[14:16] {magoo} vad...run or roll into bell here?
[14:16] {Threei} run... but lukewarm
[14:17] {Threei} kind of crawl
[14:17] {magoo} u are so non committal of late..i like the violent uncontrolled vad
[14:18] {Threei} he is back in Spetmeber
[14:18] {hawkfan4} FSLR trying, watching for followers
[14:19] {Threei} CREDIT SUISSE MAKING POSITIVE COMMENTS ON AIRLINE SECTOR
[14:33] {lars} gotta go... good luck all
[14:33] {hawkfan4} bye
[14:35] {Threei} seemags? not really run, but brisk walk
[14:35] {magoo} nice trades lars
[14:36] {magoo} thats why i continually ask u...u say 'who knows?" but your gut feel is quite often very good :)
[14:37] {magoo} on mkt direction in general
[14:38] {magoo} so, even tho i did not like AUAU today...i stuill luv ya boss
[14:38] {Threei} UAUA wasn't that bad
[14:39] {magoo} man..thats some poor typing there lol
[14:39] {Threei} gave one very nice trade, and the rest would be fine if we settle for scalps
[14:39] {magoo} AUAU today
[14:39] {Threei} FNM coming into bounce zone
[14:40] {magoo} dam,,i was trading its inverse
[14:41] {Threei} lol
[14:41] {magoo} no wonder i lost on it
[14:45] {Threei} MER
[14:45] {Threei} DECLARES DIVIDENDS ON COMMON AND PREFERRED STOCKS
[14:45] {Threei} - Regular quarterly dividend of $0.35/shr
[14:45] {Threei} - payable September 3, 2008, to shareholders of record on August 14, 2008.
[14:46] {Threei} anyone took FNM?
[14:46] {magoo} i did .08 boss
[14:46] {Threei} out yet?
[14:46] {magoo} no
[14:46] {Threei} par
[14:46] {Threei} protect half
[14:46] {magoo} i can do that i guess
[14:46] {Threei} things change too fast and too frwequent
[14:47] {Threei} you can
[14:47] {Threei} I believe in you
[14:47] {Threei} it takes a lot of effort but it's doable
[14:47] {Threei} enter half of your position in Vlume window
[14:47] {magoo} tell me about it :)
[14:47] {Threei} gently push Sell button
[14:47] {magoo} oh shit.hit buy button
[14:48] {Threei} lol
[14:48] {Threei} on MNF I guess?
[14:48] {magoo} yeah..now i short
[14:54] {peterg} How delete unwanted windows, charts, from Laser?
[14:55] {magoo} click window so hioghlited
[14:55] {Threei} click on windown, Alt-F4
[14:55] {peterg} thkyou gntlmn
[14:55] {magoo} ctrl f4
[14:55] {Threei} or Ctrl
[14:55] {Threei} lol
[14:55] {Threei} I always forget and try both
[14:56] {peterg} works like a charm!
[14:58] {magoo} out bal fnm
[14:58] {magoo} ty vad
[14:58] {Threei} welcome
[14:59] {Threei} US HOUSE HAS REPORTEDLY VOTED DOWN THE ENERGY/CROP ANTI-SPECULATION BILL DUE TO OFFSHORE DRILLING DISPUTE
[14:59] {Threei} triple whammy for oil today
[14:59] {Threei} Israel - bill rejection - natural bounce after weeks of selling
[15:00] {Threei} oh, and inventories
[15:00] {Threei} no wonder it jumped 5 bucks
[15:01] {Threei} FNM
[15:01] {Threei} MOODY'S TAKES ACTION ON 30 2005-2007 PRIME DEALS
[15:01] {Threei} hmm?
[15:01] {Threei} what does it mean?
[15:04] {Threei} if MER breaks 27 and pops FNM is likely to follow
[15:08] {magoo} rimm sh loss 118
[15:11] {magoo} cover .75
[15:12] {Threei} CHRYSLER IS REPORTEDLY LOOKING IN TO COLLABORATIONS WITH TATA, FIAT
[15:24] {magoo} .
[15:28] {Threei} LEH seems to take leadership among financials today
[15:39] {Threei} any idea whnat made market happy?
[15:40] {magoo} no
[15:40] {hawkfan4} no clue
[15:51] {Threei} sdolars should be fun after market
[15:52] {magoo} u thinking sympathy plays off fslr?
[15:52] {Threei} usual suspects... whichever of them has decent spread and liwuidity
[15:53] {Threei} risk is much higher
[16:00] {magoo} let me know
[16:01] {Threei} thank you all
[16:01] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[16:01] {Threei} I'll try topost FSLR when it comes out
[16:03] {Threei} DIS
[16:03] {Threei} REPORTS Q3 $0.66 V $0.61E, $9.24B V $9.14BE
[16:05] {Threei} spike FSLR
[16:05] {magoo} wow
[16:05] {Chaeron} spike!
[16:05] {Threei} REPORTS Q2 $0.85 V $0.58E,
[16:06] {Threei} R $267M V $217ME
[16:06] {Threei} spectacular earnings
[16:06] {magoo} wheres the bounceplay??
[16:07] {Threei} no idea, it's too volatile
[16:07] {Threei} I managed to grab some SOLF at 13.50
[16:08] {magoo} nice
[16:08] {Threei} guy at the offer didn't cancel in time, lol
[16:09] {Chaeron} :))
[16:10] {Threei} out 14 and 14.01
[16:10] {hawkfan4} nice
[16:10] {magoo} wtg
[16:10] {magoo} i got nothin
[16:10] {Threei} ty
[16:10] {hawkfan4} me either
[16:11] {Threei} SBUX
[16:11] {Threei} REPORTS Q3 $0.18 (EX ITEMS) V $0.18E, R $2.6B V $2.61BE
[16:11] {Threei} - Q3 SSS down mid single digit in US
[16:11] {Threei} - Guides FY08 EPS mid $0.70 range v $0.79e
[16:11] {Threei} - Guides FY08 revenue growth 11%
[16:11] {Threei} - Cuts FY09 US store opening target and the company sees negative 60 new US stores in FY09 and expects to oepn 900 new international stores in the yr.
[16:12] {Threei} confusing
[16:12] {Chaeron} why?
[16:12] {Threei} OK, I am outta here... see you tomorrow guys
[16:12] {Chaeron} bye... thanks Vad
[16:12] {magoo} ty vad
[16:12] {fernp} bye
[16:12] {hawkfan4} thx, bye all
[08:30] {Threei} [CPST] Capstone Turbine Corp Receives order from HelioFocus for solar-powered microturbine
[08:30] {Threei} - Company will modify its C65 MicroTurbine to operate on solar energy.
[08:32] {hawkfan4} good morning
[08:32] {Threei} Good morning
[08:36] {Threei} HOKU
[08:36] {Threei} SIGN $298M POLYSILICON SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH JIANGXI KINKO
[08:36] {Threei} - Company will deliver solar-grade polysilicon to Kinko Energy over a ten-year period beginning in late-2009.
[08:36] {Threei} - Up to approximately $298M 2may be payable to Hoku during the ten-year period, subject to product deliveries and other conditions. The take-or-pay contract provides for the delivery of predetermined volumes of polysilicon each year, with the first shipment in the second half of 2009 and the remainder over a ten-year period at set prices that will decline throughout the term of the agreement.
[08:36] {Threei} - Under the agreement, Hoku will grant to Kinko Energy a security interest in its polysilicon assets to secure Hoku's obligation to repay $55 million to Kinko Energy as a credit against product shipments over time.
[08:38] {Threei} 07/30/08 08:30am
[08:38] {Threei} [SPIR] Spire Corp Spire Enters Multi-Year Contract with Trina Solar
[08:38] {Threei} - Companies today announced that it has entered into a multi-year, multi-system contract to provide key module line equipment to Trina Solar Limited of the People's Republic of China.
[08:38] {Threei} - Spire will provide Trina Solar with multiple Spi-Sun Simulator 4600 Single Long Pulse (4600 SLP) systems.
[08:38] {Threei} did all solars wait till today to publish news just before FSLR earnings, for double whammy effect?
[08:39] {hawkfan4} sure seems like it. have my eye on JASO. i held UAUA overnight. sold 1/2 +.50
[08:40] {Threei} nice
[08:40] {Threei} gutsy too
[08:41] {hawkfan4} yeah, a little nuts, but lucky
[08:42] {peterg} gm-back to the future with solare, eh?
[08:42] {peterg} solar
[08:42] {Threei} yeah, sspunds like another round with them
[08:42] {Threei} hi peter
[08:47] {magoo} morning
[08:49] {magoo} dsam ELN..after bell i had it short 35.85 and cobvered 34 even..look here....21
[08:51] {cosmo} here comes the sun...?
[08:52] {Threei} magoo, cosmo :)
[09:03] {fernp} Good morning
[09:07] {tomg} gm all
[09:07] {Threei} fern, tom :)
[09:07] {magoo} vad, any news rumors FSLR to beat street?
[09:08] {cosmo} RFMD tests @ 3.33
[09:08] {Threei} 07/29/08 02:37pm [FSLR] Update: solar stocks trading at new highs for the session again after Tomas Weisel makes positve comments about outlook for the rest of the year
[09:13] {magoo} ty
[09:15] {magoo} grmn pummeled vad
[09:15] {Threei} 07:01am [GRMN] Reports Q2 $0.93 v $1.00e; R $911.7 v $956.4Memore.. - Guides FY08 EPS $3.90 v $4.00e; R $3.9B v $4.2Be - Q2 Gross margin 45.8% v 48.2% in Q108 and 50.5% in Q207 (related: TOM2.NV )
[09:18] {cosmo} RFMD tests @ 3.33
[09:19] {cosmo} ... at some point
[09:19] {cosmo} needs to hold 3.20
[09:20] {cosmo} imo
[09:20] {magoo} man, cnbc commentors down right giddy over market today..as in "alls well"
[09:20] {Threei} all isn't?
[09:20] {magoo} just buy and hold..lets DO IT
[09:20] {Threei} and never try to time the market
[09:20] {Threei} leave it to pros
[09:21] {Threei} diversify
[09:21] {Threei} in a long run it always goes up
[09:21] {Threei} any more cliche I missed?
[09:21] {cosmo} even real estate?
[09:22] {Threei} but of course... 10 years from now it'll all be fine
[09:27] {Threei} FNM has a habit of sharp selloff on the open
[09:27] {Threei} worth watching for the bounce
[09:28] {Threei} usually selloff is quite deep, so don't jump on a first pause
[09:29] {Threei} SOLF is not very far from yesterday's close
[09:30] {Threei} high was 14.49
[09:30] {Threei} so if sector moves it's a good candidate
[09:32] {Threei} FNM, nice pullbeck, eh?
[09:32] {Threei} FSLR pullback weights on solars
[09:32] {esemde} morning
[09:32] {Threei} CSIQ, LDK, SOLF
[09:32] {Threei} ese :)
[09:34] {Threei} SOLF .55 long if stays above .40
[09:35] {Threei} but watch FSLR for confirmation
[09:35] {Threei} need its help
[09:36] {magoo} need restart comp
[09:37] {Threei} FNM
[09:37] {Threei} MAY SERIOUS DELINQUENCY MORTGAGE RATE INCREASED TO 1.3%
[09:37] {Threei} see how FSLR continuing seling kept SOLF from break?
[09:40] {esemde} STAR either long at .50 or 14.01
[09:41] {Threei} LDK hald lot long .80 break, stop under .55
[09:41] {Threei} half
[09:43] {Threei} half out
[09:44] {Threei} stop to .75 and let it trade
[09:44] {esemde} missed .50
[09:52] {Threei} FNM .61 long
[09:52] {Threei} .49 stop
[09:52] {esemde} long VPhm .82
[09:52] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[09:53] {Threei} look for deeper pullback now FNM
[09:53] {Threei} if comes closer to 12 or a bit under will be better bounce candidate
[09:57] {Threei} out balance LDK
[09:57] {magoo} beauty vad
[09:57] {Threei} hmmm... thank you... I guess
[10:00] {magoo} why guess?
[10:01] {Threei} I am highly suspsicious about males complimenting my appearance {G}
[10:01] {magoo} :)
[10:06] {esemde} bstop ALXN 90.50 1/3 lot
[10:09] {Threei} AMMD .41 long half lot
[10:09] {Threei} if stays above .20
[10:11] {Threei} JASO
[10:11] {Threei} .26 long
[10:11] {esemde} removed bstop ALXN
[10:11] {Threei} .14 stop
[10:12] {peterg} Jaso at .24
[10:12] {magoo} me too
[10:14] {Threei} offering half .41
[10:14] {magoo} .48 here
[10:16] {Threei} half out
[10:16] {Threei} stop to .19
[10:17] {peterg} out at .45, + .21
[10:17] {esemde} well done all...wish i could say the same about my trading these days....no more holidays for me!
[10:17] {peterg} thks for JASO
[10:18] {Threei} welcome peter
[10:18] {Threei} dino said a few times too ese
[10:18] {Threei} that he has a bit of a rought itme right after vacations
[10:18] {esemde} I can see why.....
[10:19] {esemde} patterns seem to be right must be something in volume i'm missing
[10:19] {Threei} summer...
[10:19] {esemde} true eh!!!
[10:19] {Threei} less crowds - less pattern following
[10:19] {esemde} that was a canadian yea
[10:23] {esemde} out VPHM .82
[10:23] {magoo} so far..overall solarsa disappointmt today
[10:24] {magoo} see...mkt always fools u
[10:24] {esemde} +.00 not moving the way i thought ....NEXT}}}!!!!!!
[10:25] {Threei} how did it fools us?
[10:25] {Threei} fool
[10:25] {Threei} we made an assumption
[10:25] {Threei} checked it out
[10:25] {Threei} it worked somewhat lukewarmly
[10:25] {Threei} no real run but activity was there, enough for two winning trades
[10:26] {magoo} ok
[10:27] {esemde} SINA
[10:27] {Threei} I understand that being focused on my beauty you pay less attention to my brain... but come on, I call two winners and you say I am fooled? :)
[10:28] {magoo} no..not u fooled..i meant we even said last night maybe solars today...mkt sets us up and kind of "kind of " disappoints
[10:28] {esemde} breauty is only skin deep VAD....mags loves you for whats inside....
[10:28] {Threei} lol
[10:28] {Threei} what I got myself into...
[10:30] {peterg} _-=?/\/\/\/\/\/\/\[{[{}]]]]-----!
[10:30] {peterg} only magoo can read this
[10:30] {Threei} I share the sentiment peter
[10:31] {magoo} i see peter using magoocode
[10:31] {peterg} privilege!
[10:31] {peterg} to do so
[10:31] {peterg} sir
[10:34] {magoo} oil inventory #
[10:37] {Threei} DOE CRUDE: -81K V -1.2ME; GASOLINE: -3.5M V +250KE; DISTILLATES: +2.4M V +2ME; UTILIZATION: 87.2% V 87.1%E
[10:37] {Threei} *API Inventory:
[10:37] {Threei} - Crude Inventories: -2.1M
[10:37] {Threei} - Gasoline: -3.8M
[10:37] {Threei} - Distillate: -587K
[10:38] {Threei} watching UAUA for bounce
[10:39] {magoo} in .99
[10:40] {Threei} USO still strong
[10:41] {magoo} yeah
[10:41] {magoo} stopped .78
[10:48] {esemde} long LRCX .61
[10:48] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[10:48] {Threei} quite hectic moves
[10:48] {esemde} what mine....or USO
[10:49] {esemde} stop .40
[10:49] {Threei} USO, market, UAUA
[10:50] {esemde} ahhhhhh
[10:51] {esemde} am tring a pullback instead of a breakout
[10:51] {lars} JASO Target Vad?
[10:51] {magoo} out jaso .56 TY vad
[10:52] {Threei} trying .61 exit
[10:52] {Threei} but agoo probably has right idea
[10:52] {lars} ty
[10:55] {Threei} in UAUA .66
[10:55] {lars} out JASO .58 thanks vad and magoo :)
[10:55] {Threei} .59 stop
[10:55] {Threei} welcome :)
[11:00] {Threei} out
[11:00] {Threei} scalp near .80 was the way to go
[11:02] {Threei} .55 second try
[11:02] {Threei} stop under .50
[11:03] {Threei} half out .65
[11:06] {magoo} in whicha
[11:07] {hawkfan4} me too
[11:07] {Threei} debated taking .77 -.78
[11:07] {Threei} hard to tell
[11:08] {magoo} im thinking 9.06 ..but who knows?
[11:08] {Threei} anyway, stop to breakeven for me for the balance
[11:08] {magoo} where the hex isroman?
[11:09] {Threei} USO helps
[11:09] {Threei} if loses 99 UAUA should be fine
[11:10] {Threei} come on oil, die
[11:11] {Threei} stubborn slimy substance
[11:13] {Threei} stinky too
[11:13] {magoo} its a "cheaty fellow"
[11:15] {Threei} lose that 99 already
[11:18] {Threei} out balance
[11:19] {magoo} im o for 2 on that dog
[11:22] {kazaam} long uso
[11:22] {kazaam} .18
[11:22] {kazaam} sl .98
[11:25] {Threei} in .32
[11:25] {Threei} .25 stop
[11:26] {kazaam} stopped, -.20
[11:26] {hawkfan4} same vad
[11:27] {Threei} half out .42
[11:28] {esemde} out LRCX .88 +.27
[11:28] {Threei} :)
[11:28] {esemde} finally.....
[11:28] {esemde} hmmmmm are pullbacks the way to go?
[11:29] {Threei} feels so, we talked aabout it yesterday
[11:31] {Threei} offering .61
[11:31] {Threei} out
[11:31] {Threei} whew
[11:31] {magoo} uso is cooperating
[11:31] {Threei} finally got this thing right
[11:32] {hawkfan4} beaut...uh, i mean, good one vad :)
[11:32] {Threei} lol
[11:32] {magoo} lol
[11:32] {lars} lol
06[11:32] * magoo slaps lars around a bit with a large trout
[11:32] {magoo} just warming up lars for laser
[11:32] {lars} thx...needed that
[11:32] {lars} :)
[11:35] {Threei} back in .51
[11:36] {Threei} .44 stop
[11:36] {magoo} alright...alrigytttttttttttttt...........in
[11:36] {Threei} lol
[11:36] {Threei} kiss of death
[11:36] {Threei} there you go
[11:37] {magoo} kiss? interesting choice of words
[11:37] {Threei} oops
[11:37] {hawkfan4} lol
[11:37] {Threei} didn't even take stop laughing
[11:37] {Threei} now I did
[11:48] {Threei} watching LDK pullback
[11:50] {Threei} probably worth a try if holding above .50 and if FSLR turns back up
[11:51] {Threei} keep shares small, volatile one
[12:18] {hawkfan4} .
[12:26] {Threei} yawn
[12:27] {Chaeron} good morning all
[12:27] {Threei} chaeron :)
[12:29] {magoo} chaerbroil
[12:30] {peterg} lunchtime
[12:30] {Chaeron} Vad, Mags :) slow day now?
[12:30] {peterg} sure seems like it now, after brief morning rush
[12:33] {Chaeron} thanks peter... working on major project anyway
[12:36] {Threei} oil upward move kind of killed all the enthusiasm
[12:38] {magoo} yeah chaer, mkts stuck
[12:58] {magoo} mkts roll or rebound vad??
[12:58] {Threei} feels like one more round of selling
[13:02] {Threei} FSLR
[13:02] {Threei} HEARING RBC MAKING CAUTIOUS COMMENTS
[13:04] {Chaeron} magoo... left you ad DCC if you're bored
[13:05] {Threei} oil really annoying today
[13:07] {magoo} this pullbk does not bode well
[13:07] {Threei} [12:58] {Threei} feels like one more round of selling
[13:07] {Threei} [13:02] {Threei} FSLR
[13:08] {Threei} in UAUA
[13:08] {Threei} trying for scalp
[13:09] {Threei} out .10
[13:12] {Threei} USO feels topped
[13:12] {Threei} back in UAUA
[13:13] {magoo} where?
[13:13] {Threei} 8
[13:14] {lars} in 8 also
[13:14] {Threei} nice drop USO
[13:15] {Threei} half out UAUA
[13:15] {Threei} this time trying for more than scalp
[13:16] {Threei} ISRAELI PM OLMERT WILL REPORTEDLY RESIGN WHEN NEW KADIMA PARTY LEADER HAS BEEN CHOSEN
[13:16] {Threei} - Note the speculated successor is the Transportation Minister Shaul Mofax, who has in the past been attributed to hawkish comments with regards to the Iranian issue{USD/ILS USO}
[13:17] {Threei} there we go
[13:17] {Chaeron} wow
[13:17] {Chaeron} You saw that coming weeks ago
[13:17] {Threei} same guy who made comments a while ago about unavoidable attack on Iran
[13:17] {Threei} that's why oil is happy today I guess
[13:18] {Threei} that Israel is going to be a diving force in oil market with their comments and (hhope not) actions?
[13:21] {magoo} looked at your dcc chaer, thanx..cool manyanas
[13:29] {Threei} out second half
[13:30] {Threei} maybe prematurely but don't want to get caught
[13:30] {magoo} i keeop losing on that pig
[13:30] {magoo} move to anothe paaalllllllleeeeeease
[13:31] {magoo} 4 f'n stops
[13:51] {jmb} a late Thanks for UAUA Vad
[13:55] {Threei} welcome jmb
06[13:59] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[14:00] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[14:03] * Threei shows restraint... trying to control his violent instincts
[14:09] {laserdave1} I am so proud of you Vad
[14:09] {Threei} you are?
[14:09] {laserdave1} ya restraint is awesome
[14:10] {laserdave1} i know how bad you want to swing that trout
[14:10] {Threei} great, mission is accomplished, now I deserve some reward
06[14:10] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[14:10] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:10] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[14:10] {Threei} lol
[14:10] {Chaeron} just a Three Stoges type slap fest
[14:10] {Chaeron} Stoogess that is
[14:10] {lars} lol
[14:10] {Chaeron} shhhheeeeeeesh
[14:10] {Chaeron} Take 3 - "Stooges"
[14:11] {Chaeron} Vad resembles "Curly"
[14:16] {magoo} vad...run or roll into bell here?
[14:16] {Threei} run... but lukewarm
[14:17] {Threei} kind of crawl
[14:17] {magoo} u are so non committal of late..i like the violent uncontrolled vad
[14:18] {Threei} he is back in Spetmeber
[14:18] {hawkfan4} FSLR trying, watching for followers
[14:19] {Threei} CREDIT SUISSE MAKING POSITIVE COMMENTS ON AIRLINE SECTOR
[14:33] {lars} gotta go... good luck all
[14:33] {hawkfan4} bye
[14:35] {Threei} seemags? not really run, but brisk walk
[14:35] {magoo} nice trades lars
[14:36] {magoo} thats why i continually ask u...u say 'who knows?" but your gut feel is quite often very good :)
[14:37] {magoo} on mkt direction in general
[14:38] {magoo} so, even tho i did not like AUAU today...i stuill luv ya boss
[14:38] {Threei} UAUA wasn't that bad
[14:39] {magoo} man..thats some poor typing there lol
[14:39] {Threei} gave one very nice trade, and the rest would be fine if we settle for scalps
[14:39] {magoo} AUAU today
[14:39] {Threei} FNM coming into bounce zone
[14:40] {magoo} dam,,i was trading its inverse
[14:41] {Threei} lol
[14:41] {magoo} no wonder i lost on it
[14:45] {Threei} MER
[14:45] {Threei} DECLARES DIVIDENDS ON COMMON AND PREFERRED STOCKS
[14:45] {Threei} - Regular quarterly dividend of $0.35/shr
[14:45] {Threei} - payable September 3, 2008, to shareholders of record on August 14, 2008.
[14:46] {Threei} anyone took FNM?
[14:46] {magoo} i did .08 boss
[14:46] {Threei} out yet?
[14:46] {magoo} no
[14:46] {Threei} par
[14:46] {Threei} protect half
[14:46] {magoo} i can do that i guess
[14:46] {Threei} things change too fast and too frwequent
[14:47] {Threei} you can
[14:47] {Threei} I believe in you
[14:47] {Threei} it takes a lot of effort but it's doable
[14:47] {Threei} enter half of your position in Vlume window
[14:47] {magoo} tell me about it :)
[14:47] {Threei} gently push Sell button
[14:47] {magoo} oh shit.hit buy button
[14:48] {Threei} lol
[14:48] {Threei} on MNF I guess?
[14:48] {magoo} yeah..now i short
[14:54] {peterg} How delete unwanted windows, charts, from Laser?
[14:55] {magoo} click window so hioghlited
[14:55] {Threei} click on windown, Alt-F4
[14:55] {peterg} thkyou gntlmn
[14:55] {magoo} ctrl f4
[14:55] {Threei} or Ctrl
[14:55] {Threei} lol
[14:55] {Threei} I always forget and try both
[14:56] {peterg} works like a charm!
[14:58] {magoo} out bal fnm
[14:58] {magoo} ty vad
[14:58] {Threei} welcome
[14:59] {Threei} US HOUSE HAS REPORTEDLY VOTED DOWN THE ENERGY/CROP ANTI-SPECULATION BILL DUE TO OFFSHORE DRILLING DISPUTE
[14:59] {Threei} triple whammy for oil today
[14:59] {Threei} Israel - bill rejection - natural bounce after weeks of selling
[15:00] {Threei} oh, and inventories
[15:00] {Threei} no wonder it jumped 5 bucks
[15:01] {Threei} FNM
[15:01] {Threei} MOODY'S TAKES ACTION ON 30 2005-2007 PRIME DEALS
[15:01] {Threei} hmm?
[15:01] {Threei} what does it mean?
[15:04] {Threei} if MER breaks 27 and pops FNM is likely to follow
[15:08] {magoo} rimm sh loss 118
[15:11] {magoo} cover .75
[15:12] {Threei} CHRYSLER IS REPORTEDLY LOOKING IN TO COLLABORATIONS WITH TATA, FIAT
[15:24] {magoo} .
[15:28] {Threei} LEH seems to take leadership among financials today
[15:39] {Threei} any idea whnat made market happy?
[15:40] {magoo} no
[15:40] {hawkfan4} no clue
[15:51] {Threei} sdolars should be fun after market
[15:52] {magoo} u thinking sympathy plays off fslr?
[15:52] {Threei} usual suspects... whichever of them has decent spread and liwuidity
[15:53] {Threei} risk is much higher
[16:00] {magoo} let me know
[16:01] {Threei} thank you all
[16:01] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[16:01] {Threei} I'll try topost FSLR when it comes out
[16:03] {Threei} DIS
[16:03] {Threei} REPORTS Q3 $0.66 V $0.61E, $9.24B V $9.14BE
[16:05] {Threei} spike FSLR
[16:05] {magoo} wow
[16:05] {Chaeron} spike!
[16:05] {Threei} REPORTS Q2 $0.85 V $0.58E,
[16:06] {Threei} R $267M V $217ME
[16:06] {Threei} spectacular earnings
[16:06] {magoo} wheres the bounceplay??
[16:07] {Threei} no idea, it's too volatile
[16:07] {Threei} I managed to grab some SOLF at 13.50
[16:08] {magoo} nice
[16:08] {Threei} guy at the offer didn't cancel in time, lol
[16:09] {Chaeron} :))
[16:10] {Threei} out 14 and 14.01
[16:10] {hawkfan4} nice
[16:10] {magoo} wtg
[16:10] {magoo} i got nothin
[16:10] {Threei} ty
[16:10] {hawkfan4} me either
[16:11] {Threei} SBUX
[16:11] {Threei} REPORTS Q3 $0.18 (EX ITEMS) V $0.18E, R $2.6B V $2.61BE
[16:11] {Threei} - Q3 SSS down mid single digit in US
[16:11] {Threei} - Guides FY08 EPS mid $0.70 range v $0.79e
[16:11] {Threei} - Guides FY08 revenue growth 11%
[16:11] {Threei} - Cuts FY09 US store opening target and the company sees negative 60 new US stores in FY09 and expects to oepn 900 new international stores in the yr.
[16:12] {Threei} confusing
[16:12] {Chaeron} why?
[16:12] {Threei} OK, I am outta here... see you tomorrow guys
[16:12] {Chaeron} bye... thanks Vad
[16:12] {magoo} ty vad
[16:12] {fernp} bye
[16:12] {hawkfan4} thx, bye all
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Jul 29 2008
Session Time: Tue Jul 29 00:00:03 2008
[08:33] {Threei} good morning
[08:33] {Threei} watching MER for bounce scalp
[08:33] {hawkfan4} morning vad, all
[08:33] {Threei} hawk :)
[08:34] {Threei} .55 if getting hit
[08:34] {Threei} with stop under .40
[08:35] {Threei} smallish shares, just a fingers warm-up
[08:39] {Threei} lost support, gotta wait for more drop most likely
[08:41] {Threei} in .15
[08:43] {Threei} come on, give me one more spike, don't want to take measly 10 cents
[08:44] {Threei} if can't clear .25 will be stopped probably
[08:44] {Threei} good boy
[08:45] {Threei} out half .32
[08:46] {Threei} stop to b/e
[08:47] {Threei} am I getting too greedy here?
[08:47] {Threei} stop to .19
[08:48] {judijim} good early morning all
[08:48] {Threei} jj :)
[08:50] {magoo} morning
[08:50] {Threei} magoo :)
[08:52] {Threei} out second half
[08:52] {magoo} mer after hours last nite hit 22
[08:54] {Threei} non-shortable
[08:54] {magoo} on that sec thingy
[08:55] {Threei} raising more capital through stock dilution
[08:55] {hawkfan4} i have it short, from .17
[08:55] {Threei} :)
[08:57] {magoo} a hold from before rule?
[08:58] {hawkfan4} no, can still short it, rule covers naked shorting i think?
[09:01] {Threei} *MAY SP_CASE-SHILLER-20 Y/Y: -15.8% V -16.0%E; HOME PRICE INDEX:168.54 V 169.9 PRIOR
[09:01] {Threei} Prior Home price index revised to 170
[09:01] {Threei} Prior Case Shiller 20 y/y revised to -15.2% from 15.3% prior{XHB}
[09:05] {magoo} vad, news MT?
[09:05] {Threei} 08:00am [X] Reports Q2 $5.65 v $3.91e, R $6.74B v $5.90Be; Sees Union labor deal signed by September 1st
[09:05] {magoo} ty
[09:06] {Threei} I understand it's related news, not MT itself
[09:07] {magoo} up big
[09:17] {magoo} vad, news CNQR?
[09:17] {Threei} 08:19am [CNQR] American Express buys 6.4M shares for $251M (13% stake), has right to buy 1.28 additional shares at $39.27/share
[09:18] {magoo} ty
[09:18] {hawkfan4} MER dumped
[09:19] {magoo} could reach 22 imo
[09:20] {pita} morning all
[09:20] {Threei} pita :)
[09:20] {hawkfan4} morning
[09:20] {peterg} morning
[09:21] {Threei} peter :)
[09:24] {Threei} MER
[09:24] {Threei} SHARES REPORTEDLY PLACED AT $22.50/SHR V $24.33 PRIOR CLOSE
[09:24] {magoo} [09:20] {magoo} could reach 22 imo
[09:26] {cosmo} ZRAN
[09:26] {cosmo} 8.40 pre mkt high
[09:27] {magoo} vad, whats youur gut feel topday?as in up bounce or more pain?
[09:27] {Threei} can't tell for the whole day... things change too often and are too dependent on oil movement
[09:28] {cosmo} viscosity could be a problem?
[09:29] {Threei} alqays is
[09:29] {Threei} UPDATE: T. BOONE PICKENS HAS REPORTEDLY HIS 10M SHARE HOLDINGS OF YHOO AT A LOSS
[09:29] {Threei} - Note this was reported earlier this morning in the SF Chronicle
[09:29] {Threei} well, he is familiar with stop loss copncept {G}
[09:31] {Threei} 7.50 long UAUA if USO dumps
[09:33] {Threei} in aggressively
[09:33] {Threei} stop under .30
[09:33] {magoo} me too lol .37
[09:34] {peterg} nice-.40
[09:35] {Threei} stop's tight enough to try it for this interesting sharp oil drop
[09:35] {Threei} look at correlation between oil and market
[09:35] {Threei} practically tick in tick
[09:35] {fernp} gm all
[09:35] {Threei} fern :)
[09:36] {Threei} half out .53
[09:36] {Threei} stop to .35
[09:38] {peterg} out for my .08 ty
[09:38] {Threei} good enough for trying out new tool peter
[09:41] {Threei} this pair still looks strongly linked
[09:41] {Threei} USO/UAUA I mean
[09:42] {Threei} missed re-entry under .30
[09:44] {Threei} CFTC: SAYS TO ACT QUICKLY ON FARMERS COMPLAINTS ABOUT CROP SPECULATION
[09:47] {Threei} FNM .41 long
[09:47] {Threei} stop under .30
[09:48] {Threei} MER moving up, should help it
[09:48] {esemde} morning
[09:48] {Threei} ese :)
[09:49] {esemde} morning
[09:49] {magoo} in aggr .38
[09:49] {Threei} no help
[09:51] {Threei} BEAV lost its mind?
[09:52] {magoo} wow
[09:53] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY CONSUMER CONFIDENCE DUE OUT AT 10AMET
[09:53] {Threei} **consensus expectation: 50.1e v 50.4 prior
[09:53] {Threei} - prior 1-year inflation expectation at 7.7%
[09:53] {Roman} 21 no doube magoo is one of the luckiest basters i have ever seen
[09:53] {magoo} out FNM .64 TY boss
[09:53] {Threei} welcome
[09:54] {Roman} 21 when i grow up, i want to be like magoo
[09:55] {magoo} looks like somebody woke up on wrong side of bed lol
[09:55] {Threei} lol
[09:55] {Roman} 21 anyway................:)
[09:56] {Threei} if my eperience is any indication, you are going to have hard time Roman... as a kid I wanted to be either austronaut or ice-cream saleman... neither paneed out
[09:56] {Roman} 21 :)
[09:57] {Roman} 21 i really do think magoo can see the future
[09:57] {Roman} 21 he is about 5 minutes ahead
[09:57] {magoo} waiting .71 uaua from .37
[09:57] {magoo} out TY boss
[09:58] {Threei} welcome :)
[10:00] {Threei} JULY CONSUMER CONFIDENCE: 51.9 V 50.1E
[10:00] {Threei} prior revised from 50.4 to 51
[10:00] {Threei} - 1-year inflation expectation at 7.6% v 7.7% prior
[10:01] {Threei} 98.70 - .80 area is critical support for USO
[10:01] {Threei} if broken, will dump much lower
[10:02] {Threei} good boy
[10:02] {Threei} UAUA reacts
[10:02] {Threei} look at oil drop
[10:02] {esemde} you were right about that one Vad....USO that is
[10:03] {magoo} nicew read vad
[10:04] {magoo} l rimm here ,31
[10:04] {magoo} risky small
[10:05] {Roman} 21 innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[10:06] {magoo} looking for near 116
[10:06] {magoo} .91wait
[10:06] {Threei} oyl is new spelling
[10:07] {magoo} out
[10:08] {magoo} + .61
[10:08] {Roman} 21 tell me this dude is not supernatural
[10:08] {Threei} I know I have somewhat wierd way of expressing my admiration but...
06[10:08] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:08] {magoo} u out????
[10:08] {Roman} 21 not yet
[10:08] {Roman} 21 here
[10:09] {Roman} 21 .41
[10:09] {magoo} over point NICE
[10:09] {magoo} im a dumb scalper
[10:09] {Roman} 21 thank you, now i can go to the store and buy my son food
[10:09] {Threei} lol
[10:10] {Threei} magoo is now known as Saviour of Infants
[10:10] {magoo} who'd of thunk it vad? he he
[10:11] {esemde} bstop PDCO 32.01
[10:14] {Threei} do we get that lucky to see USO losing 97.50?
[10:15] {Threei} watchinf FNM for pullback entry
[10:15] {Threei} aww... missed
[10:15] {Threei} time to buy was when I typed, lol
[10:16] {Threei} ok USO, one more dump please
[10:17] {magoo} what we playing off it?
[10:17] {Threei} not sure here, lol
[10:19] {magoo} vad, any news BIDU?
[10:19] {Threei} no
[10:19] {magoo} ty
[10:24] {Threei} in .82
[10:24] {judijim} new stradegy this week, wanted to trade more days, in long and short, today in 10 minutes made on shorts $859
[10:24] {Threei} .75 stop
[10:25] {magoo} in what
[10:25] {Threei} FNM
[10:25] {Threei} nice going jj
[10:25] {Threei} stopped
[10:25] {Threei} my timing is off on this thing today
[10:26] {judijim} we're still watching today but protect profit and back in tomorrow
[10:26] {Threei} good discipline
[10:29] {magoo} how u supposed to make 3k if u stop at 800 he he
[10:29] {esemde} bstop invalidated PDCO
[10:36] {Threei} UAUA
[10:36] {Threei} in
[10:37] {Threei} sharp dive USO, UAUA delayed reaction
[10:37] {magoo} where u in?
[10:37] {Threei} .83
[10:37] {magoo} .90
[10:38] {hawkfan4} .79
[10:38] {Threei} hawk put us all to shame
[10:38] {Threei} out +.20
[10:38] {magoo} again
[10:38] {hawkfan4} but i missed the first one
[10:39] {lars} out +.15 ty
[10:40] {magoo} out here .15, + .25
[10:40] {Threei} good job guys
[10:40] {Threei} wtg lars
06[10:40] * magoo slaps lars around a bit with a large trout
[10:41] {Threei} this is conceptual trade, as long as you understand the idea of it you don't need me to call exact levels
[10:41] {Threei} sharp move by the leading indicator (USO in this case), delayed reaction on the follower giving window for entry
[10:42] {Threei} look at the size of red bar on USO at 10:37
[10:43] {Threei} look at according time on UAUA chart
[10:43] {Threei} that's your window of opportunity
[10:43] {Threei} avoid temptation to play UAUA off any USO tick
[10:43] {Threei} it's this bug sudden one that you want
[10:43] {Threei} bug = big
[10:47] {Threei} FNM did same thing but I am avoiding it today
[10:47] {Threei} it likes me not
[10:51] {magoo} but i still like u
[10:52] {esemde} Vad have you got a way of determining Bull traps....Thats what i seem to be getting alot of these days
[10:52] {esemde} breakouts retreating significantly
[10:53] {esemde} ie..PDCO had a buy stop in there but decided not to go for it and it did retreat
[10:54] {Threei} ese, these days are dictated by oil
[10:54] {Threei} stocks rarely move on their own merit
[10:54] {Threei} standard setups are being distorted by this correlation
[10:59] {kazaam} MHP L .54
[11:01] {kazaam} yeah, the jbe plays hardly worked last week, I had to start learning new stuff! imagine that
[11:02] {Threei} plus, overall - in highly volatile markets aggressive entries are usually woriking better
[11:02] {magoo} sigh
[11:02] {kazaam} out +.13
[11:02] {Threei} wtg
[11:03] {magoo} i wish i could take aggrssive enytries
[11:03] {Threei} lol
[11:03] {kazaam} man i have been the king of getting out too early this morning
[11:03] {Threei} look who is talking... probably molst aggressive entrist (if that's a word) in da room
06[11:04] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {magoo} nah...yesterday if u didn;t scalp u get waffled
[11:04] {kazaam} mmmmmm waffled
06[11:04] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {laserdave1} magoober
[11:05] {laserdave1} Vadsterrrrrr
[11:05] {laserdave1} hows it going guys
[11:05] {laserdave1} i missed u too magoo
06[11:05] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {magoo} good..how are u?
[11:05] {magoo} :)
[11:05] {laserdave1} good thanks
[11:06] {magoo} vad, room nice and quiet without me??
[11:06] {Threei} yes, excpet when we talked about you
[11:06] {magoo} he he
[11:06] {magoo} all negative i presume
[11:06] {Threei} and loud
[11:06] {Threei} :)
[11:06] {laserdave1} when i was bored i would just type it out even though you were not here
[11:07] {Threei} OK{ something has changed
[11:07] {laserdave1} laserdave1 hits magoo in the but with a large trout
[11:07] {Threei} both USO and UAUA went up
[11:07] {hawkfan4} UAUA strong
[11:07] {Threei} backing off until we figure it out
[11:18] {kazaam} oil looks ready to pop up
[11:18] {Threei} I am hesitant to call it... look at last similar setup it formed
[11:19] {Threei} from 10:10 to 10:30 approx
[11:19] {Threei} looked ready to break out and pop, and dumped hard instead
[11:20] {Threei} if it holds as a pattern, it will fall to 97 now :)
[11:20] {kazaam} bear flag at 10:!0 to 10:30, kinda looks like head and shoulder now
[11:21] {magoo} to bad we can't short uso
[11:21] {Threei} we can short OIH
[11:22] {magoo} oh right
[11:37] {Threei} and now for the wisdom from above:
[11:37] {Threei} TREASURY'S MCCORMICK: OIL PRICES ARE A HUGE BURDEN ON THE US ECONOMY
[11:37] {Threei} no, really?
[11:38] {kazaam} i think i speak for everybody, without government analysis we would be lost
[11:38] {Threei} like scared children in the darkness
[11:38] {Threei} and the most scary thing is
[11:38] {Threei} magoo would try to get me to hold his hand
[11:39] {magoo} that does it!!!!
[11:39] {Threei} oops
06[11:39] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[11:39] * Threei ducks
[11:58] {kazaam} MHP, 40.00 daily support, how do you think that will hold if the market turns downward?
[11:58] {Threei} doubt it
[11:59] {kazaam} tks
[12:13] {Threei} FSLR reports tomorrow
[12:14] {Threei} probable followers LDK, CSIQ
[12:14] {hawkfan4} that's always entertaining
[12:17] {Threei} I am morally, mentally and ethically ready for another big oil drop
[12:19] {Threei} I'd say, USO at 95 would bring tears of joy to my eyes
[12:22] {hawkfan4} mine too, and the sooner the beter
[12:32] {Threei} loss of .80 should launch next leg down USO
[12:33] {Threei} especially if stays under 98
[13:02] {magoo} .
[13:02] {magoo} 29 minutes of silence
[13:02] {Threei} see anything moving?
[13:03] {Threei} unless you want to scalp for 5 cents, thnere is nothing out there
[13:03] {GeoArb} emn?
[13:03] {magoo} i was hoping u did
[13:05] {Threei} not sure Geo
[13:05] {GeoArb} pulled back and approaching lows agfain
[13:07] {GeoArb} scalped 10 cents but got out as didnt have vad validation hehehe
[13:16] {GeoArb} drat
[13:23] {GeoArb} anyone else play emn?
[13:23] {kazaam} naw, i was on EOG for 8 cents
[13:24] {kazaam} the E's are paying out huge
[13:24] {GeoArb} emn dropped 60 cents and i booked 10
[13:24] {GeoArb} hehe
[13:25] {kazaam} time to start working on a time machine
[13:25] {GeoArb} way to go brushing teeth
[13:25] {GeoArb} CL broke
[13:28] {magoo} vad, any "feel" for how days gonna play out?
[13:28] {magoo} close on highs?
[13:28] {Threei} yes
[13:29] {Threei} for now at least
[13:29] {magoo} strange day
[13:31] {kazaam} fnm, trying to break 11.20
[13:34] {magoo} AAPL going for 159...risky..needs mkt
[13:44] {peterg} TITN
[13:44] {peterg} intrsg
[13:44] {peterg} th
[13:44] {peterg} tg
[13:44] {peterg} intrstg
[13:45] {Threei} give up peter
[13:45] {Threei} it's hopeless
[13:45] {Threei} just ask magoo
[13:45] {Threei} he tries to type things 5 times before he shrugs and leaves all his mistypes alone
[13:46] {magoo} yuiop
[13:46] {magoo} yip
[13:46] {Threei} zere u goe
[13:46] {magoo} uyp
[14:13] {hawkfan4} friggin oil
[14:14] {Threei} won't give up easy eh
[14:15] {Threei} I'd think it's simply oversold a bit short term
[14:15] {Threei} bounces are to be expected
[14:22] {Threei} well, wat was that
[14:22] {Threei} on both sides
[14:23] {Threei} SPENDINGPULSE: FOUR-WEEK RETAIL GASOLINE DEMAND -4.1% Y/Y, YTD DEMAND 2.2%, WEEKLY DEMAND +0.7% W/W, -4% Y/Y
[14:23] {Threei} - Weekly figure indicates that US retail gasoline demand is at its highest level since 2007.{USO}
[14:39] {Threei} UPDATE: SOLAR STOCKS TRADING AT NEW HIGHS FOR THE SESSION AGAIN AFTER TOMAS WEISEL MAKES POSITVE COMMENTS ABOUT OUTLOOK FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR
[14:39] {Threei} {SPWR TSL STP ESLR SOLF}
[14:43] {kazaam} nice earthquake here
[14:44] {Threei} where?
[14:44] {kazaam} los angeles
[14:44] {GeoArb} yup
[14:44] {lars} knocked down a pic on wall here
[14:44] {Threei} really?
[14:44] {Threei} wow
[14:44] {GeoArb} my windows shaking
[14:44] {magoo} wow
[14:44] {GeoArb} i had to errr
[14:44] {GeoArb} run out of house
[14:44] {lars} hope thats it!
[14:45] {Threei} on CNN now
[14:45] {Threei} USGS: EARTHQUAKE REPORTEDLY FELT IN LOS ANGELES AREA, NO WORD ON MAGNITUDE
[14:46] {lars} I live by Temecula in SoCal... shook pretty good
[14:46] {lars} not long though luckily
[14:47] {magoo} 5.6
[14:47] {magoo} los ang to san diego
[14:47] {lars} center?
[14:48] {kazaam} santa barbara too
[14:48] {Threei} epicenter seems to be near Pomona they said
[14:48] {laserdave1} geo dcc please
[14:48] {Chaeron} I'm ok in Newport if anyone was worried :))
[14:48] {Threei} and Chino Hills
[14:49] {Chaeron} I heard center was Chino
[14:49] {Threei} anyone heard from Chaeron lately?
[14:49] {Chaeron} :P
[14:50] {peterg} hmmm..hit laser sell, sez no short available; but I wuz long SOLF for my nickel
[14:50] {peterg} then i sold out losing my nickel.
[14:50] {peterg} grr
[14:50] {peterg} thks anyway
[14:51] {Threei} you had sell order in at higher price?
[14:51] {peterg} mkt
[14:51] {magoo} upgraded to 5.8
[14:51] {GeoArb} hehehe latimes down
[14:52] {peterg} going again SOLF
[14:53] {Threei} all solars do
[14:53] {peterg} watching
[14:53] {peterg} burnt, ha ha
[14:56] {magoo} any big reports tonite vad?
[14:56] {Threei} no
[14:57] {Threei} tomorrow FSLR, DIS, SBUX
[14:57] {Threei} SYMC
[14:57] {magoo} after bell tomorrow?
[14:57] {Threei} yeah
[14:58] {Threei} so solars are probably going to play tomorrow as well
[15:00] {Threei} so it's not a Big One yet?
06[15:00] * Threei takes off his hard hat
[15:06] {Threei} CTDC trying to jojn solar race
[15:09] {esemde} I like to hear that solars may be in play.....have been following a huge list of them
[15:10] {Threei} WM?
[15:22] {Threei} hearing npizes about FNM running ahead of Bush signing the bill... isn't it given?
[15:22] {hawkfan4} if i knew what a npizie was i could answer ;)
[15:23] {fernp} lol
[15:23] {Threei} I aam so sleepy, I can't even unholster my trout
[15:23] {hawkfan4} :) my lucky day
[15:23] {Threei} that's your salvation :)
[15:24] {peterg} zzzz
[15:24] {Threei} great... just when I started lifting my eyelids
[15:25] {Threei} thanks a lot peter
[15:25] {magoo} trout??
06[15:25] * Threei ducks
06[15:25] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[15:25] {peterg} good, thanks
[15:25] {peterg} that feels betr
[15:26] {peterg} btw, I saw vad's favorite movie, "Stalker"
[15:26] {Threei} really? I bet you fell asleep 12 times
[15:26] {peterg} at 2hrs 45 min, i was asleep for 9/10 of it
[15:26] {peterg} very talky philosophical
[15:27] {peterg} camerman learning to shoot distant pans
[15:27] {Threei} thing is, that's half of the package
[15:27] {Threei} there was a book first,
[15:27] {Threei} very dynamic
[15:27] {kazaam} the ending of stalker was the best
[15:27] {Threei} real page turner
[15:27] {peterg} with the telekinesis?
[15:27] {Threei} called Roadside Picnic
[15:27] {kazaam} yeah
[15:27] {kazaam} so you suggest reading the book?
[15:27] {Threei} then movie was filmed,
[15:27] {kazaam} which is slower?
[15:28] {Threei} based purely on underlying phylosophical message
[15:28] {Threei} if you read the book, you may appreciate the movie
[15:28] {Threei} if not, it's pure zzzz
[15:28] {Threei} book was very dynamic, kaz
[15:29] {Threei} nothing like movie
[15:29] {kazaam} i am going to take a gamble and assume the book is more entertaining than the markets right now
[15:29] {Threei} and Stalker himself is a very colorful figure
[15:30] {peterg} there was something gripping & involving, but I can't figure out what
[15:30] {peterg} The pace was glacial.
[15:30] {Threei} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic
[15:31] {Threei} A Roadside Picnic film based on the novel is now in development by Columbia TriStar, to feature John Travolta, with a 2008 release date
[15:31] {kazaam} yeah, when i think Stalker i think JOhn travolt
[15:32] {kazaam} jk jk
[15:32] {Threei} hehe
[15:32] {Threei} digfferent meaning of word
[15:33] {Threei} book itself in both languages:
[15:33] {Threei} http://www.shnaresys.com/roadside/picnic/parallel.htm
[15:33] {peterg} vad you are a scholar of the book/movie
[15:34] {GeoArb} pssst
[15:34] {peterg} is that the whole book?
[15:34] {GeoArb} he is the authhor
[15:34] {peterg} ahhhh
[15:34] {Threei} lol
[15:34] {Threei} not sure, didn't scroll it all
[15:35] {Threei} looked in a few spots, looks authentic
[15:35] {peterg} is long
[15:35] {Threei} not really
[15:35] {peterg} shlee i shlee, i pele vechnuyu pamyatch (opening line of Dr. Zhivaog
[15:35] {peterg} we will now discuss russian literature
[15:36] {peterg} before sleeping
[15:36] {peterg} while sleeping
[15:36] {GeoArb} you insulting?
[15:36] {peterg} whom?
[15:36] {peterg} how?
[15:36] {GeoArb} russinan lit
[15:36] {peterg} nyet
[15:36] {GeoArb} lolol
[15:37] {peterg} esp. old Russ lit, like it myuself
[15:38] {Threei} mags, market seems to be doing it
[15:38] {Threei} wants to close at the high
[15:39] {peterg} laser couldn't give me SOLF or ESLR to short when it was trending down Universal?
[15:40] {Threei} I guess they are shorted to death, not much inventory
[15:40] {Threei} one of factors that drives price up now
[15:40] {Threei} book can be downloaded from official site of authors at http://www.rusf.ru/abs/books/pno.zip
[15:40] {GeoArb} yes universal
[15:41] {GeoArb} i checked 2 others
[15:41] {laserdave1} mer going nuts
[15:41] {GeoArb} my previous mention
[15:41] {GeoArb} cl
[15:43] {peterg} thks
[15:44] {Threei} from NQ daily, 1860 bereak should launch next leg up
[15:44] {Threei} hawk... no question "what bereak is" is allowed
[15:44] {hawkfan4} lol, :)
[15:45] {peterg} thats our next pres, bereak obama
[15:46] {Threei} great... how did I get myself in political discussion
[15:46] {peterg} except canadians, never mind
[15:46] {GeoArb} are you talking about cathering the great vad?
[15:47] {peterg} geo, what is cathering? medical procedure?
[15:47] {Threei} rofl
[15:47] {GeoArb} lol
[15:47] {GeoArb} bunch of potemkins
[15:47] {peterg} fooled catherine
[15:50] {Threei} OK guys, tomorrow should be an interesting day
[15:50] {magoo} ty vad..all
[15:50] {Threei} solars get in the picture, it's been a while since we had anything to play aside of financials and airlines
[15:50] {Threei} a bit more variety in the buffet
[15:51] {Threei} have a good evening, see you all tomorrow
[15:51] {lars} nice :)
[15:51] {lars} evening all
[15:51] {peterg} bye all
[15:51] {peterg} hope quake done
[15:52] {fernp} see you all tomorrow
[08:33] {Threei} good morning
[08:33] {Threei} watching MER for bounce scalp
[08:33] {hawkfan4} morning vad, all
[08:33] {Threei} hawk :)
[08:34] {Threei} .55 if getting hit
[08:34] {Threei} with stop under .40
[08:35] {Threei} smallish shares, just a fingers warm-up
[08:39] {Threei} lost support, gotta wait for more drop most likely
[08:41] {Threei} in .15
[08:43] {Threei} come on, give me one more spike, don't want to take measly 10 cents
[08:44] {Threei} if can't clear .25 will be stopped probably
[08:44] {Threei} good boy
[08:45] {Threei} out half .32
[08:46] {Threei} stop to b/e
[08:47] {Threei} am I getting too greedy here?
[08:47] {Threei} stop to .19
[08:48] {judijim} good early morning all
[08:48] {Threei} jj :)
[08:50] {magoo} morning
[08:50] {Threei} magoo :)
[08:52] {Threei} out second half
[08:52] {magoo} mer after hours last nite hit 22
[08:54] {Threei} non-shortable
[08:54] {magoo} on that sec thingy
[08:55] {Threei} raising more capital through stock dilution
[08:55] {hawkfan4} i have it short, from .17
[08:55] {Threei} :)
[08:57] {magoo} a hold from before rule?
[08:58] {hawkfan4} no, can still short it, rule covers naked shorting i think?
[09:01] {Threei} *MAY SP_CASE-SHILLER-20 Y/Y: -15.8% V -16.0%E; HOME PRICE INDEX:168.54 V 169.9 PRIOR
[09:01] {Threei} Prior Home price index revised to 170
[09:01] {Threei} Prior Case Shiller 20 y/y revised to -15.2% from 15.3% prior{XHB}
[09:05] {magoo} vad, news MT?
[09:05] {Threei} 08:00am [X] Reports Q2 $5.65 v $3.91e, R $6.74B v $5.90Be; Sees Union labor deal signed by September 1st
[09:05] {magoo} ty
[09:06] {Threei} I understand it's related news, not MT itself
[09:07] {magoo} up big
[09:17] {magoo} vad, news CNQR?
[09:17] {Threei} 08:19am [CNQR] American Express buys 6.4M shares for $251M (13% stake), has right to buy 1.28 additional shares at $39.27/share
[09:18] {magoo} ty
[09:18] {hawkfan4} MER dumped
[09:19] {magoo} could reach 22 imo
[09:20] {pita} morning all
[09:20] {Threei} pita :)
[09:20] {hawkfan4} morning
[09:20] {peterg} morning
[09:21] {Threei} peter :)
[09:24] {Threei} MER
[09:24] {Threei} SHARES REPORTEDLY PLACED AT $22.50/SHR V $24.33 PRIOR CLOSE
[09:24] {magoo} [09:20] {magoo} could reach 22 imo
[09:26] {cosmo} ZRAN
[09:26] {cosmo} 8.40 pre mkt high
[09:27] {magoo} vad, whats youur gut feel topday?as in up bounce or more pain?
[09:27] {Threei} can't tell for the whole day... things change too often and are too dependent on oil movement
[09:28] {cosmo} viscosity could be a problem?
[09:29] {Threei} alqays is
[09:29] {Threei} UPDATE: T. BOONE PICKENS HAS REPORTEDLY HIS 10M SHARE HOLDINGS OF YHOO AT A LOSS
[09:29] {Threei} - Note this was reported earlier this morning in the SF Chronicle
[09:29] {Threei} well, he is familiar with stop loss copncept {G}
[09:31] {Threei} 7.50 long UAUA if USO dumps
[09:33] {Threei} in aggressively
[09:33] {Threei} stop under .30
[09:33] {magoo} me too lol .37
[09:34] {peterg} nice-.40
[09:35] {Threei} stop's tight enough to try it for this interesting sharp oil drop
[09:35] {Threei} look at correlation between oil and market
[09:35] {Threei} practically tick in tick
[09:35] {fernp} gm all
[09:35] {Threei} fern :)
[09:36] {Threei} half out .53
[09:36] {Threei} stop to .35
[09:38] {peterg} out for my .08 ty
[09:38] {Threei} good enough for trying out new tool peter
[09:41] {Threei} this pair still looks strongly linked
[09:41] {Threei} USO/UAUA I mean
[09:42] {Threei} missed re-entry under .30
[09:44] {Threei} CFTC: SAYS TO ACT QUICKLY ON FARMERS COMPLAINTS ABOUT CROP SPECULATION
[09:47] {Threei} FNM .41 long
[09:47] {Threei} stop under .30
[09:48] {Threei} MER moving up, should help it
[09:48] {esemde} morning
[09:48] {Threei} ese :)
[09:49] {esemde} morning
[09:49] {magoo} in aggr .38
[09:49] {Threei} no help
[09:51] {Threei} BEAV lost its mind?
[09:52] {magoo} wow
[09:53] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY CONSUMER CONFIDENCE DUE OUT AT 10AMET
[09:53] {Threei} **consensus expectation: 50.1e v 50.4 prior
[09:53] {Threei} - prior 1-year inflation expectation at 7.7%
[09:53] {Roman} 21 no doube magoo is one of the luckiest basters i have ever seen
[09:53] {magoo} out FNM .64 TY boss
[09:53] {Threei} welcome
[09:54] {Roman} 21 when i grow up, i want to be like magoo
[09:55] {magoo} looks like somebody woke up on wrong side of bed lol
[09:55] {Threei} lol
[09:55] {Roman} 21 anyway................:)
[09:56] {Threei} if my eperience is any indication, you are going to have hard time Roman... as a kid I wanted to be either austronaut or ice-cream saleman... neither paneed out
[09:56] {Roman} 21 :)
[09:57] {Roman} 21 i really do think magoo can see the future
[09:57] {Roman} 21 he is about 5 minutes ahead
[09:57] {magoo} waiting .71 uaua from .37
[09:57] {magoo} out TY boss
[09:58] {Threei} welcome :)
[10:00] {Threei} JULY CONSUMER CONFIDENCE: 51.9 V 50.1E
[10:00] {Threei} prior revised from 50.4 to 51
[10:00] {Threei} - 1-year inflation expectation at 7.6% v 7.7% prior
[10:01] {Threei} 98.70 - .80 area is critical support for USO
[10:01] {Threei} if broken, will dump much lower
[10:02] {Threei} good boy
[10:02] {Threei} UAUA reacts
[10:02] {Threei} look at oil drop
[10:02] {esemde} you were right about that one Vad....USO that is
[10:03] {magoo} nicew read vad
[10:04] {magoo} l rimm here ,31
[10:04] {magoo} risky small
[10:05] {Roman} 21 innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[10:06] {magoo} looking for near 116
[10:06] {magoo} .91wait
[10:06] {Threei} oyl is new spelling
[10:07] {magoo} out
[10:08] {magoo} + .61
[10:08] {Roman} 21 tell me this dude is not supernatural
[10:08] {Threei} I know I have somewhat wierd way of expressing my admiration but...
06[10:08] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:08] {magoo} u out????
[10:08] {Roman} 21 not yet
[10:08] {Roman} 21 here
[10:09] {Roman} 21 .41
[10:09] {magoo} over point NICE
[10:09] {magoo} im a dumb scalper
[10:09] {Roman} 21 thank you, now i can go to the store and buy my son food
[10:09] {Threei} lol
[10:10] {Threei} magoo is now known as Saviour of Infants
[10:10] {magoo} who'd of thunk it vad? he he
[10:11] {esemde} bstop PDCO 32.01
[10:14] {Threei} do we get that lucky to see USO losing 97.50?
[10:15] {Threei} watchinf FNM for pullback entry
[10:15] {Threei} aww... missed
[10:15] {Threei} time to buy was when I typed, lol
[10:16] {Threei} ok USO, one more dump please
[10:17] {magoo} what we playing off it?
[10:17] {Threei} not sure here, lol
[10:19] {magoo} vad, any news BIDU?
[10:19] {Threei} no
[10:19] {magoo} ty
[10:24] {Threei} in .82
[10:24] {judijim} new stradegy this week, wanted to trade more days, in long and short, today in 10 minutes made on shorts $859
[10:24] {Threei} .75 stop
[10:25] {magoo} in what
[10:25] {Threei} FNM
[10:25] {Threei} nice going jj
[10:25] {Threei} stopped
[10:25] {Threei} my timing is off on this thing today
[10:26] {judijim} we're still watching today but protect profit and back in tomorrow
[10:26] {Threei} good discipline
[10:29] {magoo} how u supposed to make 3k if u stop at 800 he he
[10:29] {esemde} bstop invalidated PDCO
[10:36] {Threei} UAUA
[10:36] {Threei} in
[10:37] {Threei} sharp dive USO, UAUA delayed reaction
[10:37] {magoo} where u in?
[10:37] {Threei} .83
[10:37] {magoo} .90
[10:38] {hawkfan4} .79
[10:38] {Threei} hawk put us all to shame
[10:38] {Threei} out +.20
[10:38] {magoo} again
[10:38] {hawkfan4} but i missed the first one
[10:39] {lars} out +.15 ty
[10:40] {magoo} out here .15, + .25
[10:40] {Threei} good job guys
[10:40] {Threei} wtg lars
06[10:40] * magoo slaps lars around a bit with a large trout
[10:41] {Threei} this is conceptual trade, as long as you understand the idea of it you don't need me to call exact levels
[10:41] {Threei} sharp move by the leading indicator (USO in this case), delayed reaction on the follower giving window for entry
[10:42] {Threei} look at the size of red bar on USO at 10:37
[10:43] {Threei} look at according time on UAUA chart
[10:43] {Threei} that's your window of opportunity
[10:43] {Threei} avoid temptation to play UAUA off any USO tick
[10:43] {Threei} it's this bug sudden one that you want
[10:43] {Threei} bug = big
[10:47] {Threei} FNM did same thing but I am avoiding it today
[10:47] {Threei} it likes me not
[10:51] {magoo} but i still like u
[10:52] {esemde} Vad have you got a way of determining Bull traps....Thats what i seem to be getting alot of these days
[10:52] {esemde} breakouts retreating significantly
[10:53] {esemde} ie..PDCO had a buy stop in there but decided not to go for it and it did retreat
[10:54] {Threei} ese, these days are dictated by oil
[10:54] {Threei} stocks rarely move on their own merit
[10:54] {Threei} standard setups are being distorted by this correlation
[10:59] {kazaam} MHP L .54
[11:01] {kazaam} yeah, the jbe plays hardly worked last week, I had to start learning new stuff! imagine that
[11:02] {Threei} plus, overall - in highly volatile markets aggressive entries are usually woriking better
[11:02] {magoo} sigh
[11:02] {kazaam} out +.13
[11:02] {Threei} wtg
[11:03] {magoo} i wish i could take aggrssive enytries
[11:03] {Threei} lol
[11:03] {kazaam} man i have been the king of getting out too early this morning
[11:03] {Threei} look who is talking... probably molst aggressive entrist (if that's a word) in da room
06[11:04] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {magoo} nah...yesterday if u didn;t scalp u get waffled
[11:04] {kazaam} mmmmmm waffled
06[11:04] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {laserdave1} magoober
[11:05] {laserdave1} Vadsterrrrrr
[11:05] {laserdave1} hows it going guys
[11:05] {laserdave1} i missed u too magoo
06[11:05] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {magoo} good..how are u?
[11:05] {magoo} :)
[11:05] {laserdave1} good thanks
[11:06] {magoo} vad, room nice and quiet without me??
[11:06] {Threei} yes, excpet when we talked about you
[11:06] {magoo} he he
[11:06] {magoo} all negative i presume
[11:06] {Threei} and loud
[11:06] {Threei} :)
[11:06] {laserdave1} when i was bored i would just type it out even though you were not here
[11:07] {Threei} OK{ something has changed
[11:07] {laserdave1} laserdave1 hits magoo in the but with a large trout
[11:07] {Threei} both USO and UAUA went up
[11:07] {hawkfan4} UAUA strong
[11:07] {Threei} backing off until we figure it out
[11:18] {kazaam} oil looks ready to pop up
[11:18] {Threei} I am hesitant to call it... look at last similar setup it formed
[11:19] {Threei} from 10:10 to 10:30 approx
[11:19] {Threei} looked ready to break out and pop, and dumped hard instead
[11:20] {Threei} if it holds as a pattern, it will fall to 97 now :)
[11:20] {kazaam} bear flag at 10:!0 to 10:30, kinda looks like head and shoulder now
[11:21] {magoo} to bad we can't short uso
[11:21] {Threei} we can short OIH
[11:22] {magoo} oh right
[11:37] {Threei} and now for the wisdom from above:
[11:37] {Threei} TREASURY'S MCCORMICK: OIL PRICES ARE A HUGE BURDEN ON THE US ECONOMY
[11:37] {Threei} no, really?
[11:38] {kazaam} i think i speak for everybody, without government analysis we would be lost
[11:38] {Threei} like scared children in the darkness
[11:38] {Threei} and the most scary thing is
[11:38] {Threei} magoo would try to get me to hold his hand
[11:39] {magoo} that does it!!!!
[11:39] {Threei} oops
06[11:39] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[11:39] * Threei ducks
[11:58] {kazaam} MHP, 40.00 daily support, how do you think that will hold if the market turns downward?
[11:58] {Threei} doubt it
[11:59] {kazaam} tks
[12:13] {Threei} FSLR reports tomorrow
[12:14] {Threei} probable followers LDK, CSIQ
[12:14] {hawkfan4} that's always entertaining
[12:17] {Threei} I am morally, mentally and ethically ready for another big oil drop
[12:19] {Threei} I'd say, USO at 95 would bring tears of joy to my eyes
[12:22] {hawkfan4} mine too, and the sooner the beter
[12:32] {Threei} loss of .80 should launch next leg down USO
[12:33] {Threei} especially if stays under 98
[13:02] {magoo} .
[13:02] {magoo} 29 minutes of silence
[13:02] {Threei} see anything moving?
[13:03] {Threei} unless you want to scalp for 5 cents, thnere is nothing out there
[13:03] {GeoArb} emn?
[13:03] {magoo} i was hoping u did
[13:05] {Threei} not sure Geo
[13:05] {GeoArb} pulled back and approaching lows agfain
[13:07] {GeoArb} scalped 10 cents but got out as didnt have vad validation hehehe
[13:16] {GeoArb} drat
[13:23] {GeoArb} anyone else play emn?
[13:23] {kazaam} naw, i was on EOG for 8 cents
[13:24] {kazaam} the E's are paying out huge
[13:24] {GeoArb} emn dropped 60 cents and i booked 10
[13:24] {GeoArb} hehe
[13:25] {kazaam} time to start working on a time machine
[13:25] {GeoArb} way to go brushing teeth
[13:25] {GeoArb} CL broke
[13:28] {magoo} vad, any "feel" for how days gonna play out?
[13:28] {magoo} close on highs?
[13:28] {Threei} yes
[13:29] {Threei} for now at least
[13:29] {magoo} strange day
[13:31] {kazaam} fnm, trying to break 11.20
[13:34] {magoo} AAPL going for 159...risky..needs mkt
[13:44] {peterg} TITN
[13:44] {peterg} intrsg
[13:44] {peterg} th
[13:44] {peterg} tg
[13:44] {peterg} intrstg
[13:45] {Threei} give up peter
[13:45] {Threei} it's hopeless
[13:45] {Threei} just ask magoo
[13:45] {Threei} he tries to type things 5 times before he shrugs and leaves all his mistypes alone
[13:46] {magoo} yuiop
[13:46] {magoo} yip
[13:46] {Threei} zere u goe
[13:46] {magoo} uyp
[14:13] {hawkfan4} friggin oil
[14:14] {Threei} won't give up easy eh
[14:15] {Threei} I'd think it's simply oversold a bit short term
[14:15] {Threei} bounces are to be expected
[14:22] {Threei} well, wat was that
[14:22] {Threei} on both sides
[14:23] {Threei} SPENDINGPULSE: FOUR-WEEK RETAIL GASOLINE DEMAND -4.1% Y/Y, YTD DEMAND 2.2%, WEEKLY DEMAND +0.7% W/W, -4% Y/Y
[14:23] {Threei} - Weekly figure indicates that US retail gasoline demand is at its highest level since 2007.{USO}
[14:39] {Threei} UPDATE: SOLAR STOCKS TRADING AT NEW HIGHS FOR THE SESSION AGAIN AFTER TOMAS WEISEL MAKES POSITVE COMMENTS ABOUT OUTLOOK FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR
[14:39] {Threei} {SPWR TSL STP ESLR SOLF}
[14:43] {kazaam} nice earthquake here
[14:44] {Threei} where?
[14:44] {kazaam} los angeles
[14:44] {GeoArb} yup
[14:44] {lars} knocked down a pic on wall here
[14:44] {Threei} really?
[14:44] {Threei} wow
[14:44] {GeoArb} my windows shaking
[14:44] {magoo} wow
[14:44] {GeoArb} i had to errr
[14:44] {GeoArb} run out of house
[14:44] {lars} hope thats it!
[14:45] {Threei} on CNN now
[14:45] {Threei} USGS: EARTHQUAKE REPORTEDLY FELT IN LOS ANGELES AREA, NO WORD ON MAGNITUDE
[14:46] {lars} I live by Temecula in SoCal... shook pretty good
[14:46] {lars} not long though luckily
[14:47] {magoo} 5.6
[14:47] {magoo} los ang to san diego
[14:47] {lars} center?
[14:48] {kazaam} santa barbara too
[14:48] {Threei} epicenter seems to be near Pomona they said
[14:48] {laserdave1} geo dcc please
[14:48] {Chaeron} I'm ok in Newport if anyone was worried :))
[14:48] {Threei} and Chino Hills
[14:49] {Chaeron} I heard center was Chino
[14:49] {Threei} anyone heard from Chaeron lately?
[14:49] {Chaeron} :P
[14:50] {peterg} hmmm..hit laser sell, sez no short available; but I wuz long SOLF for my nickel
[14:50] {peterg} then i sold out losing my nickel.
[14:50] {peterg} grr
[14:50] {peterg} thks anyway
[14:51] {Threei} you had sell order in at higher price?
[14:51] {peterg} mkt
[14:51] {magoo} upgraded to 5.8
[14:51] {GeoArb} hehehe latimes down
[14:52] {peterg} going again SOLF
[14:53] {Threei} all solars do
[14:53] {peterg} watching
[14:53] {peterg} burnt, ha ha
[14:56] {magoo} any big reports tonite vad?
[14:56] {Threei} no
[14:57] {Threei} tomorrow FSLR, DIS, SBUX
[14:57] {Threei} SYMC
[14:57] {magoo} after bell tomorrow?
[14:57] {Threei} yeah
[14:58] {Threei} so solars are probably going to play tomorrow as well
[15:00] {Threei} so it's not a Big One yet?
06[15:00] * Threei takes off his hard hat
[15:06] {Threei} CTDC trying to jojn solar race
[15:09] {esemde} I like to hear that solars may be in play.....have been following a huge list of them
[15:10] {Threei} WM?
[15:22] {Threei} hearing npizes about FNM running ahead of Bush signing the bill... isn't it given?
[15:22] {hawkfan4} if i knew what a npizie was i could answer ;)
[15:23] {fernp} lol
[15:23] {Threei} I aam so sleepy, I can't even unholster my trout
[15:23] {hawkfan4} :) my lucky day
[15:23] {Threei} that's your salvation :)
[15:24] {peterg} zzzz
[15:24] {Threei} great... just when I started lifting my eyelids
[15:25] {Threei} thanks a lot peter
[15:25] {magoo} trout??
06[15:25] * Threei ducks
06[15:25] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[15:25] {peterg} good, thanks
[15:25] {peterg} that feels betr
[15:26] {peterg} btw, I saw vad's favorite movie, "Stalker"
[15:26] {Threei} really? I bet you fell asleep 12 times
[15:26] {peterg} at 2hrs 45 min, i was asleep for 9/10 of it
[15:26] {peterg} very talky philosophical
[15:27] {peterg} camerman learning to shoot distant pans
[15:27] {Threei} thing is, that's half of the package
[15:27] {Threei} there was a book first,
[15:27] {Threei} very dynamic
[15:27] {kazaam} the ending of stalker was the best
[15:27] {Threei} real page turner
[15:27] {peterg} with the telekinesis?
[15:27] {Threei} called Roadside Picnic
[15:27] {kazaam} yeah
[15:27] {kazaam} so you suggest reading the book?
[15:27] {Threei} then movie was filmed,
[15:27] {kazaam} which is slower?
[15:28] {Threei} based purely on underlying phylosophical message
[15:28] {Threei} if you read the book, you may appreciate the movie
[15:28] {Threei} if not, it's pure zzzz
[15:28] {Threei} book was very dynamic, kaz
[15:29] {Threei} nothing like movie
[15:29] {kazaam} i am going to take a gamble and assume the book is more entertaining than the markets right now
[15:29] {Threei} and Stalker himself is a very colorful figure
[15:30] {peterg} there was something gripping & involving, but I can't figure out what
[15:30] {peterg} The pace was glacial.
[15:30] {Threei} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic
[15:31] {Threei} A Roadside Picnic film based on the novel is now in development by Columbia TriStar, to feature John Travolta, with a 2008 release date
[15:31] {kazaam} yeah, when i think Stalker i think JOhn travolt
[15:32] {kazaam} jk jk
[15:32] {Threei} hehe
[15:32] {Threei} digfferent meaning of word
[15:33] {Threei} book itself in both languages:
[15:33] {Threei} http://www.shnaresys.com/roadside/picnic/parallel.htm
[15:33] {peterg} vad you are a scholar of the book/movie
[15:34] {GeoArb} pssst
[15:34] {peterg} is that the whole book?
[15:34] {GeoArb} he is the authhor
[15:34] {peterg} ahhhh
[15:34] {Threei} lol
[15:34] {Threei} not sure, didn't scroll it all
[15:35] {Threei} looked in a few spots, looks authentic
[15:35] {peterg} is long
[15:35] {Threei} not really
[15:35] {peterg} shlee i shlee, i pele vechnuyu pamyatch (opening line of Dr. Zhivaog
[15:35] {peterg} we will now discuss russian literature
[15:36] {peterg} before sleeping
[15:36] {peterg} while sleeping
[15:36] {GeoArb} you insulting?
[15:36] {peterg} whom?
[15:36] {peterg} how?
[15:36] {GeoArb} russinan lit
[15:36] {peterg} nyet
[15:36] {GeoArb} lolol
[15:37] {peterg} esp. old Russ lit, like it myuself
[15:38] {Threei} mags, market seems to be doing it
[15:38] {Threei} wants to close at the high
[15:39] {peterg} laser couldn't give me SOLF or ESLR to short when it was trending down Universal?
[15:40] {Threei} I guess they are shorted to death, not much inventory
[15:40] {Threei} one of factors that drives price up now
[15:40] {Threei} book can be downloaded from official site of authors at http://www.rusf.ru/abs/books/pno.zip
[15:40] {GeoArb} yes universal
[15:41] {GeoArb} i checked 2 others
[15:41] {laserdave1} mer going nuts
[15:41] {GeoArb} my previous mention
[15:41] {GeoArb} cl
[15:43] {peterg} thks
[15:44] {Threei} from NQ daily, 1860 bereak should launch next leg up
[15:44] {Threei} hawk... no question "what bereak is" is allowed
[15:44] {hawkfan4} lol, :)
[15:45] {peterg} thats our next pres, bereak obama
[15:46] {Threei} great... how did I get myself in political discussion
[15:46] {peterg} except canadians, never mind
[15:46] {GeoArb} are you talking about cathering the great vad?
[15:47] {peterg} geo, what is cathering? medical procedure?
[15:47] {Threei} rofl
[15:47] {GeoArb} lol
[15:47] {GeoArb} bunch of potemkins
[15:47] {peterg} fooled catherine
[15:50] {Threei} OK guys, tomorrow should be an interesting day
[15:50] {magoo} ty vad..all
[15:50] {Threei} solars get in the picture, it's been a while since we had anything to play aside of financials and airlines
[15:50] {Threei} a bit more variety in the buffet
[15:51] {Threei} have a good evening, see you all tomorrow
[15:51] {lars} nice :)
[15:51] {lars} evening all
[15:51] {peterg} bye all
[15:51] {peterg} hope quake done
[15:52] {fernp} see you all tomorrow
Monday, July 28, 2008
Jul 28 2008
[08:17] {Threei} IRAN PRESIDENT SAYS OIL PRICES 'NOT REALISTIC'; WOULD WELCOME NEW US TACK - NBC INTERVIEW
[08:17] {Threei} - NBC ran a snippet ahead of its interview with Iran's President to be broadcast later tonight
[08:43] {Threei} 08:30am [NTWK] Guides FY09 $0.40-0.45 v $0.37e; Guides FY09 Rev +30%-35% y/y (only 1 est.)
[09:01] {dptl} good morning all
[09:03] {Threei} Good morning :)
[09:04] {pita} gm everyone
[09:04] {Threei} pita :)
[09:06] {peterg} gm all
[09:06] {Threei} peter :)
[09:08] {peterg} for me today will be very interesting and frustrating; I now hve the famous laser platform, so I am back in first grade yet again.
[09:09] {Threei} just allow yourself time to learn it
[09:09] {peterg} and dont smash computer
[09:09] {Threei} it's a powerful weapon, learning curve is not really steep but will take a few
[09:10] {peterg} minutes? months
[09:10] {peterg} years
[09:10] {Threei} days :)
[09:10] {peterg} good
[09:11] {Threei} you have my layout as a starting point
[09:11] {Threei} adjust things for your configuration
[09:12] {peterg} layout from video
[09:12] {Threei} and re-orient your priorities for couple days,
[09:12] {Threei} don't try to make money right away, aim for learning the software
[09:13] {Threei} when you become comfortable with tools, you can focus on utilizing them
[09:14] {Threei} slappng dave with herring helps too
[09:14] {peterg} looking forward to it
[09:15] {Threei} you'll enjoy it... everyone who tried it once just can't let the fish go
[09:15] {Threei} lars, welcome aboard
[09:17] {hawkfan4} good morning
[09:17] {Threei} hawk :)
[09:17] {Threei} so, OPEC prez says oil should go to 70-80... Iran prez makes friendly noizes
[09:17] {Threei} what does this thing stil do above 129
[09:18] {Threei} REPORTEDLY THE US BUDGET DEFICIT SEEN AROUND $490B IN FY2009 - ADNMINISTRATION OFFICIAL
[09:18] {Threei} 129 = 120
[09:19] {cosmo} NTWK holds 3.45 ...so far
[09:20] {Threei} 3.40 - 3.60 range for now
[09:21] {fernp} good morning all
[09:21] {Threei} fern :)
[09:21] {Threei} one of those stocks today... either dies on the vine or gets attention and turns into serious runner
[09:21] {esemde} good morning.....
[09:21] {Threei} ese :)
[09:21] {esemde} morning vad
[09:22] {esemde} need to get back to work.........just about slept in again
[09:22] {lars} morning all thanks for welcome Vad
[09:22] {esemde} summer holidays makes you lazy I think
[09:22] {Threei} :)
[09:22] {Threei} from daily chart, 3.20 area is support
[09:22] {Threei} I don't have that problem ese
[09:23] {Threei} I am equally lazy any time of the year
[09:23] {esemde} I want your problem then
[09:24] {Threei} IRAN PRESIDENT: IRAN IS NOT WORKING ON A NUCLEAR WEAPON - NBC NEWS INTERVIEW PREVIEWS
[09:24] {Threei} {USO}
[09:25] {Threei} overall, usual suspects on radar... FNM, UAUA, FRE, plus NTWK
[09:26] {Threei} if oil getting hit UAUA is a player again
[09:28] {magoo} HEY:)
[09:29] {Threei} mags!
[09:29] {Threei} greeting trout in order?
[09:29] {esemde} AMGN up 7 pts
[09:30] {Threei} got a few upgrades
[09:30] {magoo} please do
[09:30] {esemde} and new osteoperosis drug as well
06[09:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {magoo} i knew something missing all week
[09:31] {Threei} :)
[09:33] {Threei} .15 long UAUA
[09:33] {Threei} stop under 7
[09:33] {Threei} too fast?
[09:33] {Threei} no chasing
[09:34] {Threei} it gives sudden "teleportations" up and down
[09:34] {Threei} one of such to the downside gives an entry chance for fast traders
[09:34] {Threei} but have to time it with USO moves
[09:35] {Threei} over 1:1 if anyone got it (doubtfully)
[09:35] {magoo} i did :)
[09:35] {Threei} wow... some got nice rest
[09:35] {Threei} grab profit or at least partial
[09:36] {magoo} ok out .38
[09:36] {magoo} TY
[09:36] {Threei} welcome, nice start after vacation
[09:36] {Threei} if USO moves down sharply, watch for UAUA headfake downtick
[09:37] {esemde} LSchw
[09:37] {Threei} it does it often shaking traders out before jumping up
[09:37] {esemde} 22.18
[09:37] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[09:38] {Threei} VVUS
[09:38] {Threei} break over .70 long
[09:38] {Threei} if stays above .55
[09:39] {Threei} FNM, watch for pullback into 12 - 12.20 area for entry
[09:42] {Threei} here comes sizeable pullback UAUA
[09:42] {Threei} USO drop will give an entry now
[09:43] {Threei} 99.50 break should launch next leg down
[09:46] {Threei} die USO
[09:47] {kazaam} did fnm already waste its bounce?
[09:47] {kazaam} or you think its got another?
[09:48] {Threei} didn't pull back deep enough for me
[09:48] {Threei} it haas ranges wider than this
[09:48] {Threei} here goes USO
[09:49] {Threei} if you got UAUA, stop under .20
[09:49] {magoo} vad, FNM?
06[09:49] * Threei hits USO over the head with 2x4
[09:50] {Threei} feels like should dive deeper FNM
[09:50] {Threei} under 12
[09:50] {Threei} watch for quick selling
[09:50] {kazaam} awww, the 2x4 is sometimes for subtle than the boots
[09:51] {Threei} 2x4 works
[09:52] {kazaam} amgn break high or low a decent play?
[09:52] {Threei} can't get a grip on it kaz... not sure
[09:53] {Threei} feel free to scalp or partial here on UAUA
[09:54] {Threei} with entry about .35, nicely above 1:1
[09:56] {Threei} FNM should lose 12 now
[09:58] {peterg} ok i like laser & colors are prettier
[09:59] {Threei} yup, I am a sucker for flashing lights too
[10:00] {Threei} and you have dave to slap as a bonus
[10:00] {Threei} icing on a cake so to speak
[10:00] {peterg} where is he
[10:00] {Threei} slacking
[10:00] {Threei} which gets him double trout when he wakes up
[10:00] {Threei} but if you need urgent help, phone him
[10:01] {peterg} nope, i just figured out how to buy...now if I can figure out how to sell....
[10:01] {Threei} lol
[10:03] {Threei} missed FNM dive under 12
[10:03] {magoo} wa last week up week or down for mkts overall?
[10:03] {Threei} up... and don't tell me you unlearned how to tell that from chart
[10:04] {magoo} hey, im even lazier now than before i left lol
[10:04] {Threei} is it even possible?
[10:04] {magoo} if thats possible
[10:04] {Threei} I perceive it as a threat to my king of laziness status
[10:05] {magoo} waiting .71 uaua
[10:06] {Threei} whatcha got on entry?
[10:06] {magoo} .34
[10:06] {Threei} :)
[10:06] {magoo} there TY
[10:07] {Threei} welcome
[10:07] {Threei} this pair continues giving
[10:15] {Threei} get ready for bounce scalp FNM
[10:16] {Threei} IMF REPORT: RISKS TO THE FINANCIAL SECTOR REMAIN ELEVATED, THE SECTOR REMAINS FRAGILE, SEE INCREASED LIKELYHOOD OF THE SECTOR'S WOES IMPACTING THE REAL ECONOMY
[10:16] {Threei} - The bottom for the US housing market is not visible, declining home values may make homes more affordable and help stabilize the market.
[10:16] {Threei} - Sees "systemic consequences" if confidence is lost in the GSEs. The GSE model requres further examination and oversight.{FRE FNM}
[10:17] {Threei} in
[10:17] {magoo} in .79
[10:17] {Threei} stop .69
[10:17] {Threei} may take a few tries
[10:19] {kazaam} target is around 12?
[10:19] {Threei} at least
[10:19] {Threei} most likely higher
[10:19] {magoo} seems like 12.25 area
[10:21] {Threei} stopped
[10:21] {magoo} yup
[10:37] {magoo} hello?
[10:37] {magoo} 15 minutes of silence
[10:37] {patience} missed you magoo, overwhelmed by your presence :)
[10:37] {Threei} lol
[10:38] {magoo} :)
[10:39] {Threei} CNBC: TREASURY PAULSON TO SPEAK AT 2:30PMET
[10:40] {magoo} u make alot of cake without me last week?
[10:40] {Threei} almost all of it
[10:40] {Threei} we were in hurry to grab as much as we could before your return
[10:40] {magoo} dino left me a post-it on desk..made big $$
[10:41] {magoo} nioceof him
[10:41] {magoo} nice
[10:42] {Threei} .71 long FNM if stays above .60
[10:47] {Threei} NTWK never got any traction
[10:47] {Threei} probably dead in the water
[10:48] {Threei} BRCM
[10:48] {Threei} 24 break long
[10:48] {Threei} stop under .80
[10:50] {Roman} 21 CHK
[10:50] {Threei} FNM is valid
[10:50] {Roman} 21 HK looks decent
[10:51] {Roman} 21 and CHK for long continueation
[10:55] {pita} stop FNM?
[10:55] {Threei} .55
[10:58] {Threei} feels like tide has changed to upward on FNM again
[10:58] {Threei} needs a l,ittle help by market
[11:00] {Threei} .85 break should send it back to 12
[11:03] {Threei} market weakens... holding it back
[11:16] {Threei} OPEC PRES: PROBABLE FOR OIL PRICES TO REMAIN STABLE AT CURRENT LEVEL
[11:16] {Threei} - Reminder Saturday the OPEC President noted that oil prices should trend towards the $70-80/bbl level{USO}
[11:16] {Threei} guy changes his mind faster than daytrader
[11:18] {kazaam} @ 1250 on S&P, could be a critical break
[11:20] {Threei} 7.25 long UAUA
[11:20] {Threei} 7.14 stop
[11:24] {esemde} I'm back..with a loss...was out of SCHM 22.02 for a minus .-16. phone call from Norway...want my High school band to come there on tour next year but we are already going to Belgium
[11:25] {esemde} let that be a lesson to you all....
[11:25] {esemde} distractions turn into losses
[11:26] {Threei} USO is too strong for market to hold up it seems
[11:26] {esemde} in this case small loss...
[11:26] {esemde} man....cannot believe the phone calls i'm getting
[11:26] {Roman} 21 watching CSIQ
[11:27] {Roman} 21 probably wants over $30
[11:48] {Threei} LEH
[11:48] {Threei} MAINTAINS Q3 DIVIDEND AT $0.17
[11:52] {peterg} Laser, a high-speed trading platform, makes it possible to lose money faster than ever before.
[11:53] {peterg} Did take smaller sh size, tho, so not too bad
[11:53] {peterg} ain't learning grand?
[11:54] {Threei} sure is... and very rewarding when learning curve is over
[11:54] {Chaeron} Good morning all... welcome back Mags... hope to see vids on youtube of your past week :)
[11:54] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:54] {magoo} chaer
[11:55] {magoo} living my dream...6 days mx
[11:55] {magoo} vad, what qwuote server u on?
[11:55] {Threei} 11
[11:56] {magoo} ty
[12:00] {kazaam} i thought it was 11-12 o'clock the way things are trading
[12:01] {magoo} sigfh...i had 65 emails to come back too
[12:01] {kazaam} select all } delete?
[12:03] {magoo} well..some i need to see lol
[12:21] {magoo} hello
[12:21] {magoo} its been 18 mins
[12:22] {Threei} someone got too precise watch
[12:38] {Threei} both USO and market got locked in a narrow range
[12:39] {Threei} USO break of 99.50 should re-energize the market
[12:40] {magoo} vad, was there recent negative news with aapl?
[12:41] {Threei} nothing ground shaking
[12:44] {Threei} USO chose to spike instead
[12:44] {Threei} btw magoo
[12:44] {magoo} uh oh
[12:44] {Threei} last two days on last week were first days that looked like typical summer
[12:45] {Threei} just so you know, we finally maybe entered it
[12:45] {Threei} maybe not... we will see
[12:45] {magoo} ok..thought a slap was comig
[12:45] {Threei} oh, that is not very far
06[12:45] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:46] {Threei} just wanted to alert about slight pattern change you and lars, since you weren't here last week
[12:46] {Threei} whole thing before that didn't look like normal summer trading at all, so it's a very recent change
[12:47] {lars} I have a lot to learn :)
[12:49] {Threei} we all do, just some of us are better at pretending they learnt everything there is
[12:56] {dptl} Vad dcc,pls
[13:10] {Threei} FED'S MISHKIN: INFLATION TARGET SHOULD BE HEADLINE, NOT CORE, AS CORE MAY BE A BIASED MEASURE OF LONG RUN INFLATION - Q&A
[13:10] {Threei} - Reacting too much to headline and not core inflation couldn lead to bad outcomes, core inflation does not contain important information for policy makers.
[13:10] {Threei} - Expects inflation to drop to around 2% in the next three years.
[13:10] {Threei} - The recent drop in oil is "very welcome."
[13:29] {magoo} uso breaks .50 vad
[13:30] {Threei} not sure about follow throuigh
[13:32] {Threei} the only way right now to play this kind of moves is if it drops sharply and UAUA gives a delay enough for entry
[13:35] {Threei} this UAUA pullback creates good base for entry - IF USO drops fast from here
[13:47] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: ECONOMY CONTINUES TO EXPAND, REMAINS "FUNDAMENTALLY RESILIENT"
[14:15] {magoo} .
[14:15] {Threei} fine point
[14:22] {Threei} PREVIEW: TREASURY'S LATEST QUARTERLY FINANCING ESTIMATES EXPECTED AT 3PMET
[14:25] {magoo} market mover?
[14:29] {Threei} probably
[14:29] {Threei} oil is major force moving market right now
[14:31] {magoo} cnbc paulson news coming
[14:50] {esemde} would have to agree with that statement Vad....as I look at the OEX....it mimickss the indexes or they are mimicking it.
[14:51] {esemde} opps oex isn't Oil index thats the S&P 100
[14:54] {Threei} just use USO for oil
[15:07] {esemde} Ok signing off...have a tee time at 1:00pm out in your neck of the wods Vad....Cordova Bay
[15:08] {Threei} have fun :)
[15:08] {esemde} see you all tomorow
[15:08] {esemde} i will
[15:08] {magoo} bye es
[15:08] {esemde} see ya mags
[15:15] {Threei} looking for UAUA to hold 7 and break 7.10 for a scalp
[15:26] {judijim} we're signing off, did trade today for net + $1225, be back tomorrow
[15:30] {Threei} take care jj
[15:43] {fernp} I have to go. see you all tomorrow.
[15:44] {Threei} take care fern
[15:44] {Threei} fairly empty day
[15:44] {Threei} couple good moves in the morning, then plug gets pulled
[15:53] {Threei} OK guys, let's have a good evening
[15:53] {Threei} thank you all, see you tomorrow
[15:53] {dptl} have a good evening all
[08:17] {Threei} - NBC ran a snippet ahead of its interview with Iran's President to be broadcast later tonight
[08:43] {Threei} 08:30am [NTWK] Guides FY09 $0.40-0.45 v $0.37e; Guides FY09 Rev +30%-35% y/y (only 1 est.)
[09:01] {dptl} good morning all
[09:03] {Threei} Good morning :)
[09:04] {pita} gm everyone
[09:04] {Threei} pita :)
[09:06] {peterg} gm all
[09:06] {Threei} peter :)
[09:08] {peterg} for me today will be very interesting and frustrating; I now hve the famous laser platform, so I am back in first grade yet again.
[09:09] {Threei} just allow yourself time to learn it
[09:09] {peterg} and dont smash computer
[09:09] {Threei} it's a powerful weapon, learning curve is not really steep but will take a few
[09:10] {peterg} minutes? months
[09:10] {peterg} years
[09:10] {Threei} days :)
[09:10] {peterg} good
[09:11] {Threei} you have my layout as a starting point
[09:11] {Threei} adjust things for your configuration
[09:12] {peterg} layout from video
[09:12] {Threei} and re-orient your priorities for couple days,
[09:12] {Threei} don't try to make money right away, aim for learning the software
[09:13] {Threei} when you become comfortable with tools, you can focus on utilizing them
[09:14] {Threei} slappng dave with herring helps too
[09:14] {peterg} looking forward to it
[09:15] {Threei} you'll enjoy it... everyone who tried it once just can't let the fish go
[09:15] {Threei} lars, welcome aboard
[09:17] {hawkfan4} good morning
[09:17] {Threei} hawk :)
[09:17] {Threei} so, OPEC prez says oil should go to 70-80... Iran prez makes friendly noizes
[09:17] {Threei} what does this thing stil do above 129
[09:18] {Threei} REPORTEDLY THE US BUDGET DEFICIT SEEN AROUND $490B IN FY2009 - ADNMINISTRATION OFFICIAL
[09:18] {Threei} 129 = 120
[09:19] {cosmo} NTWK holds 3.45 ...so far
[09:20] {Threei} 3.40 - 3.60 range for now
[09:21] {fernp} good morning all
[09:21] {Threei} fern :)
[09:21] {Threei} one of those stocks today... either dies on the vine or gets attention and turns into serious runner
[09:21] {esemde} good morning.....
[09:21] {Threei} ese :)
[09:21] {esemde} morning vad
[09:22] {esemde} need to get back to work.........just about slept in again
[09:22] {lars} morning all thanks for welcome Vad
[09:22] {esemde} summer holidays makes you lazy I think
[09:22] {Threei} :)
[09:22] {Threei} from daily chart, 3.20 area is support
[09:22] {Threei} I don't have that problem ese
[09:23] {Threei} I am equally lazy any time of the year
[09:23] {esemde} I want your problem then
[09:24] {Threei} IRAN PRESIDENT: IRAN IS NOT WORKING ON A NUCLEAR WEAPON - NBC NEWS INTERVIEW PREVIEWS
[09:24] {Threei} {USO}
[09:25] {Threei} overall, usual suspects on radar... FNM, UAUA, FRE, plus NTWK
[09:26] {Threei} if oil getting hit UAUA is a player again
[09:28] {magoo} HEY:)
[09:29] {Threei} mags!
[09:29] {Threei} greeting trout in order?
[09:29] {esemde} AMGN up 7 pts
[09:30] {Threei} got a few upgrades
[09:30] {magoo} please do
[09:30] {esemde} and new osteoperosis drug as well
06[09:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {magoo} i knew something missing all week
[09:31] {Threei} :)
[09:33] {Threei} .15 long UAUA
[09:33] {Threei} stop under 7
[09:33] {Threei} too fast?
[09:33] {Threei} no chasing
[09:34] {Threei} it gives sudden "teleportations" up and down
[09:34] {Threei} one of such to the downside gives an entry chance for fast traders
[09:34] {Threei} but have to time it with USO moves
[09:35] {Threei} over 1:1 if anyone got it (doubtfully)
[09:35] {magoo} i did :)
[09:35] {Threei} wow... some got nice rest
[09:35] {Threei} grab profit or at least partial
[09:36] {magoo} ok out .38
[09:36] {magoo} TY
[09:36] {Threei} welcome, nice start after vacation
[09:36] {Threei} if USO moves down sharply, watch for UAUA headfake downtick
[09:37] {esemde} LSchw
[09:37] {Threei} it does it often shaking traders out before jumping up
[09:37] {esemde} 22.18
[09:37] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[09:38] {Threei} VVUS
[09:38] {Threei} break over .70 long
[09:38] {Threei} if stays above .55
[09:39] {Threei} FNM, watch for pullback into 12 - 12.20 area for entry
[09:42] {Threei} here comes sizeable pullback UAUA
[09:42] {Threei} USO drop will give an entry now
[09:43] {Threei} 99.50 break should launch next leg down
[09:46] {Threei} die USO
[09:47] {kazaam} did fnm already waste its bounce?
[09:47] {kazaam} or you think its got another?
[09:48] {Threei} didn't pull back deep enough for me
[09:48] {Threei} it haas ranges wider than this
[09:48] {Threei} here goes USO
[09:49] {Threei} if you got UAUA, stop under .20
[09:49] {magoo} vad, FNM?
06[09:49] * Threei hits USO over the head with 2x4
[09:50] {Threei} feels like should dive deeper FNM
[09:50] {Threei} under 12
[09:50] {Threei} watch for quick selling
[09:50] {kazaam} awww, the 2x4 is sometimes for subtle than the boots
[09:51] {Threei} 2x4 works
[09:52] {kazaam} amgn break high or low a decent play?
[09:52] {Threei} can't get a grip on it kaz... not sure
[09:53] {Threei} feel free to scalp or partial here on UAUA
[09:54] {Threei} with entry about .35, nicely above 1:1
[09:56] {Threei} FNM should lose 12 now
[09:58] {peterg} ok i like laser & colors are prettier
[09:59] {Threei} yup, I am a sucker for flashing lights too
[10:00] {Threei} and you have dave to slap as a bonus
[10:00] {Threei} icing on a cake so to speak
[10:00] {peterg} where is he
[10:00] {Threei} slacking
[10:00] {Threei} which gets him double trout when he wakes up
[10:00] {Threei} but if you need urgent help, phone him
[10:01] {peterg} nope, i just figured out how to buy...now if I can figure out how to sell....
[10:01] {Threei} lol
[10:03] {Threei} missed FNM dive under 12
[10:03] {magoo} wa last week up week or down for mkts overall?
[10:03] {Threei} up... and don't tell me you unlearned how to tell that from chart
[10:04] {magoo} hey, im even lazier now than before i left lol
[10:04] {Threei} is it even possible?
[10:04] {magoo} if thats possible
[10:04] {Threei} I perceive it as a threat to my king of laziness status
[10:05] {magoo} waiting .71 uaua
[10:06] {Threei} whatcha got on entry?
[10:06] {magoo} .34
[10:06] {Threei} :)
[10:06] {magoo} there TY
[10:07] {Threei} welcome
[10:07] {Threei} this pair continues giving
[10:15] {Threei} get ready for bounce scalp FNM
[10:16] {Threei} IMF REPORT: RISKS TO THE FINANCIAL SECTOR REMAIN ELEVATED, THE SECTOR REMAINS FRAGILE, SEE INCREASED LIKELYHOOD OF THE SECTOR'S WOES IMPACTING THE REAL ECONOMY
[10:16] {Threei} - The bottom for the US housing market is not visible, declining home values may make homes more affordable and help stabilize the market.
[10:16] {Threei} - Sees "systemic consequences" if confidence is lost in the GSEs. The GSE model requres further examination and oversight.{FRE FNM}
[10:17] {Threei} in
[10:17] {magoo} in .79
[10:17] {Threei} stop .69
[10:17] {Threei} may take a few tries
[10:19] {kazaam} target is around 12?
[10:19] {Threei} at least
[10:19] {Threei} most likely higher
[10:19] {magoo} seems like 12.25 area
[10:21] {Threei} stopped
[10:21] {magoo} yup
[10:37] {magoo} hello?
[10:37] {magoo} 15 minutes of silence
[10:37] {patience} missed you magoo, overwhelmed by your presence :)
[10:37] {Threei} lol
[10:38] {magoo} :)
[10:39] {Threei} CNBC: TREASURY PAULSON TO SPEAK AT 2:30PMET
[10:40] {magoo} u make alot of cake without me last week?
[10:40] {Threei} almost all of it
[10:40] {Threei} we were in hurry to grab as much as we could before your return
[10:40] {magoo} dino left me a post-it on desk..made big $$
[10:41] {magoo} nioceof him
[10:41] {magoo} nice
[10:42] {Threei} .71 long FNM if stays above .60
[10:47] {Threei} NTWK never got any traction
[10:47] {Threei} probably dead in the water
[10:48] {Threei} BRCM
[10:48] {Threei} 24 break long
[10:48] {Threei} stop under .80
[10:50] {Roman} 21 CHK
[10:50] {Threei} FNM is valid
[10:50] {Roman} 21 HK looks decent
[10:51] {Roman} 21 and CHK for long continueation
[10:55] {pita} stop FNM?
[10:55] {Threei} .55
[10:58] {Threei} feels like tide has changed to upward on FNM again
[10:58] {Threei} needs a l,ittle help by market
[11:00] {Threei} .85 break should send it back to 12
[11:03] {Threei} market weakens... holding it back
[11:16] {Threei} OPEC PRES: PROBABLE FOR OIL PRICES TO REMAIN STABLE AT CURRENT LEVEL
[11:16] {Threei} - Reminder Saturday the OPEC President noted that oil prices should trend towards the $70-80/bbl level{USO}
[11:16] {Threei} guy changes his mind faster than daytrader
[11:18] {kazaam} @ 1250 on S&P, could be a critical break
[11:20] {Threei} 7.25 long UAUA
[11:20] {Threei} 7.14 stop
[11:24] {esemde} I'm back..with a loss...was out of SCHM 22.02 for a minus .-16. phone call from Norway...want my High school band to come there on tour next year but we are already going to Belgium
[11:25] {esemde} let that be a lesson to you all....
[11:25] {esemde} distractions turn into losses
[11:26] {Threei} USO is too strong for market to hold up it seems
[11:26] {esemde} in this case small loss...
[11:26] {esemde} man....cannot believe the phone calls i'm getting
[11:26] {Roman} 21 watching CSIQ
[11:27] {Roman} 21 probably wants over $30
[11:48] {Threei} LEH
[11:48] {Threei} MAINTAINS Q3 DIVIDEND AT $0.17
[11:52] {peterg} Laser, a high-speed trading platform, makes it possible to lose money faster than ever before.
[11:53] {peterg} Did take smaller sh size, tho, so not too bad
[11:53] {peterg} ain't learning grand?
[11:54] {Threei} sure is... and very rewarding when learning curve is over
[11:54] {Chaeron} Good morning all... welcome back Mags... hope to see vids on youtube of your past week :)
[11:54] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:54] {magoo} chaer
[11:55] {magoo} living my dream...6 days mx
[11:55] {magoo} vad, what qwuote server u on?
[11:55] {Threei} 11
[11:56] {magoo} ty
[12:00] {kazaam} i thought it was 11-12 o'clock the way things are trading
[12:01] {magoo} sigfh...i had 65 emails to come back too
[12:01] {kazaam} select all } delete?
[12:03] {magoo} well..some i need to see lol
[12:21] {magoo} hello
[12:21] {magoo} its been 18 mins
[12:22] {Threei} someone got too precise watch
[12:38] {Threei} both USO and market got locked in a narrow range
[12:39] {Threei} USO break of 99.50 should re-energize the market
[12:40] {magoo} vad, was there recent negative news with aapl?
[12:41] {Threei} nothing ground shaking
[12:44] {Threei} USO chose to spike instead
[12:44] {Threei} btw magoo
[12:44] {magoo} uh oh
[12:44] {Threei} last two days on last week were first days that looked like typical summer
[12:45] {Threei} just so you know, we finally maybe entered it
[12:45] {Threei} maybe not... we will see
[12:45] {magoo} ok..thought a slap was comig
[12:45] {Threei} oh, that is not very far
06[12:45] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:46] {Threei} just wanted to alert about slight pattern change you and lars, since you weren't here last week
[12:46] {Threei} whole thing before that didn't look like normal summer trading at all, so it's a very recent change
[12:47] {lars} I have a lot to learn :)
[12:49] {Threei} we all do, just some of us are better at pretending they learnt everything there is
[12:56] {dptl} Vad dcc,pls
[13:10] {Threei} FED'S MISHKIN: INFLATION TARGET SHOULD BE HEADLINE, NOT CORE, AS CORE MAY BE A BIASED MEASURE OF LONG RUN INFLATION - Q&A
[13:10] {Threei} - Reacting too much to headline and not core inflation couldn lead to bad outcomes, core inflation does not contain important information for policy makers.
[13:10] {Threei} - Expects inflation to drop to around 2% in the next three years.
[13:10] {Threei} - The recent drop in oil is "very welcome."
[13:29] {magoo} uso breaks .50 vad
[13:30] {Threei} not sure about follow throuigh
[13:32] {Threei} the only way right now to play this kind of moves is if it drops sharply and UAUA gives a delay enough for entry
[13:35] {Threei} this UAUA pullback creates good base for entry - IF USO drops fast from here
[13:47] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: ECONOMY CONTINUES TO EXPAND, REMAINS "FUNDAMENTALLY RESILIENT"
[14:15] {magoo} .
[14:15] {Threei} fine point
[14:22] {Threei} PREVIEW: TREASURY'S LATEST QUARTERLY FINANCING ESTIMATES EXPECTED AT 3PMET
[14:25] {magoo} market mover?
[14:29] {Threei} probably
[14:29] {Threei} oil is major force moving market right now
[14:31] {magoo} cnbc paulson news coming
[14:50] {esemde} would have to agree with that statement Vad....as I look at the OEX....it mimickss the indexes or they are mimicking it.
[14:51] {esemde} opps oex isn't Oil index thats the S&P 100
[14:54] {Threei} just use USO for oil
[15:07] {esemde} Ok signing off...have a tee time at 1:00pm out in your neck of the wods Vad....Cordova Bay
[15:08] {Threei} have fun :)
[15:08] {esemde} see you all tomorow
[15:08] {esemde} i will
[15:08] {magoo} bye es
[15:08] {esemde} see ya mags
[15:15] {Threei} looking for UAUA to hold 7 and break 7.10 for a scalp
[15:26] {judijim} we're signing off, did trade today for net + $1225, be back tomorrow
[15:30] {Threei} take care jj
[15:43] {fernp} I have to go. see you all tomorrow.
[15:44] {Threei} take care fern
[15:44] {Threei} fairly empty day
[15:44] {Threei} couple good moves in the morning, then plug gets pulled
[15:53] {Threei} OK guys, let's have a good evening
[15:53] {Threei} thank you all, see you tomorrow
[15:53] {dptl} have a good evening all
Friday, July 25, 2008
Jul 25 2008
Session Time: Fri Jul 25 00:00:00 2008
[08:26] {Threei} Fre
[08:26] {Threei} SAYS JUN RETAINED MORTGAGE PORFOLIO UP TO $791.8B V $770.4B PRIOR MONTH
[08:30] {Threei} JUN DURABLE GOODS ORDERS: 0.8% V -0.3%E;
[08:30] {Threei} EX-TRANSPORTATION: 2.0% V -0.2%E
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Durable Goods revised from 0.0% to 0.1%
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Ex-Transportation revised from -0.8% to -0.5%
[09:00] {esemde} gutten morgan.....ya das vhat it izzz......a nader fine day!!!!
[09:00] {Threei} good morning :)
[09:00] {esemde} Vad..
[09:00] {esemde} cos, dp hawk jmb peter
[09:01] {hawkfan4} good morning
[09:01] {Threei} hawk :)
[09:06] {peterg} troops assembling--morning all
[09:06] {Threei} peter :)
[09:08] {fernp} good morning all
[09:08] {esemde} morning peter....By The Left!!!!Quick March!!!!!
[09:08] {Threei} fern :)
[09:09] {peterg} ese--you have marching band, yes?
[09:10] {peterg} or rock band,
[09:10] {peterg} music is your muse
[09:10] {peterg} one of them
[09:10] {cosmo} and wet grass for morning practice?
[09:11] {peterg} memory lane
[09:12] {judijim} hello and good morning all
[09:13] {Threei} jj :)
[09:14] {Threei} brb
[09:14] {peterg} byob?
[09:21] {Threei} FUEL
[09:21] {Threei} ENTERS MULTI-YEAR MARKETING AGREEMENT WITH CHEVRON
[09:21] {Threei} - Subsidiary H & W Petroleum Company, Inc. has entered into a multi-year Lubrication Marketer Agreement with CVX unit Chevron Products Company to market Chevron branded lubricants. The Company's similar agreement with Chevron U.S.A. for its Texaco brand of lubricants which was entered into in 2005 also remains in place.
[09:21] {Threei} - Financial terms were not disclosed
[09:23] {Threei} USO drop propped UAUA... realtion is still there
[09:27] {dptl} good morning all
[09:27] {Threei} dp :)
[09:28] {esemde} whoaaa...did you see the fusalage of that Qunatas 747 on route from London to Australia.....2.5 X 3 meter hole...
[09:28] {esemde} picture in the news
[09:28] {cosmo} what did it?
[09:29] {esemde} pasengers just heard an explosion of some kind.
[09:29] {cosmo} oh
[09:29] {cosmo} not Quantas...
[09:29] {peterg} may the market explode with happiness
[09:30] {esemde} http://www.mytelus.com/new_homepage/ ....heres a link to mytelus
[09:32] {Threei} SQNM 22.16 long if stays above 22, half lot
[09:32] {esemde} good looking daily chart Vad
[09:32] {Threei} and biotech sector really getting attention
[09:33] {esemde} i'm in bstop 22.16
[09:34] {Threei} wow FNM
[09:34] {kazaam} nuva, break of .50
[09:34] {kazaam} darn huge spread
[09:34] {esemde} sqnm invalidated
[09:35] {esemde} bstop removed for me
[09:37] {Threei} UAUA long .11
[09:37] {Threei} atop under 8
[09:38] {esemde} l jrcc 34.03
[09:38] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[09:39] {esemde} stop 33.80
[09:39] {Threei} take UAUA profit here who got it
[09:39] {esemde} stopped....damn that was fast
[09:39] {Threei} out +30
[09:40] {esemde} nice vad
[09:40] {esemde} bstop ARBA 17.11 1/2 lot
[09:40] {Threei} US SENATE ENERGY BILL REGARDING SPECULATION IN ENERGY MARKETS HAS REPORTEDLY FAILED A PROCEDURAL ELEMENT, WILL NOW BE SET ASIDE
[09:41] {Threei} [15:25] {Threei} I start really looking foward for oil to reverse back down... UAUA retreat is so significant, upside is going to be great
[09:42] {esemde} ARBA invalidated for me
[09:42] {esemde} hmmmmm...not having much luck here today
[09:43] {Threei} UAUA nice pullback, look for USO resumtion down for re-eentry
[09:44] {Threei} not yet, USO upticking
[09:44] {Threei} UAUA tends to overshoot on both sides, be patient
[09:44] {Threei} better miss the play than be in too early
[09:45] {kazaam} vad, i must say, you ability to type to the room and take these trades is remarkable, this is coming from a guy who has played video games his whole life
[09:45] {Threei} sometimes I miss them while typing
[09:45] {esemde} I'll Second that Emotion!
[09:45] {esemde} Smokey Robinson
[09:46] {Threei} on UAUA call parrticularly had to take .15 instead of .11
[09:47] {kazaam} any read on amzn?
[09:48] {Threei} 80 BREAK
[09:48] {Threei} SMALL
[09:48] {Threei} stop under .80
[09:48] {Threei} 1:2 already
[09:48] {kazaam} heh, i missed
[09:48] {Threei} I mean 1:4
[09:48] {Threei} lol
[09:49] {Roman} 21 CROX
[09:49] {Roman} 21 bouncing
[09:51] {Threei} QLGIC
[09:51] {Threei} QLGC
[09:51] {Threei} 19.20 long
[09:51] {Threei} if stays above 19.05
[09:52] {Roman} 21 bidding crox
[09:52] {Roman} 21 on pullback 5.01
[09:53] {kazaam} DNA might break 95.34
[09:53] {esemde} VDSI bstop 13.91
[09:54] {Roman} 21 observing WM on CNBC comments
[09:54] {Roman} 21 WM Washington Mutual: Faber on CNBC says WM spokesperson said they now have $50 bln in liquidity, up from $40 bln at end of Q2 (3.75 -0.28)
[09:55] {Threei} US SENATE HOUSING BILL HAS REPORTEDLY PASSED A PRODEDURAL ELEMENT, VOTE TO COME SAT
[09:55] {Threei} *JULY FINAL UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 61.2 V 56.4E
[09:55] {Threei} - 1 yr median inflation expectations at % v 5.3% July Prelim. (5.1% in June)
[09:55] {Threei} - 5 yr median inflation expectations at % v 3.4% July Prelim. (3.4% in June)
[09:55] {esemde} L VDSI .90
[09:56] {Roman} 21 WB
[09:56] {Roman} 21 for bounce
[09:56] {Roman} 21 in 15
[09:56] {Threei} FNM 11 break long
[09:58] {Threei} stop under 11.90
[09:58] {Threei} 10.90, sorry
[09:59] {kazaam} qlgc still gud?
[09:59] {Threei} yes
[10:00] {kazaam} go market go
[10:00] {Threei} JUN NEW HOME SALES: 530K V 503KE,
[10:00] {Threei} woohooo
[10:00] {peterg} FNM in at .04
[10:00] {Threei} -0.6% M/M V -1.8%E
[10:00] {Threei} - Prior revised from 512K to 533K
[10:00] {Threei} half out FNM
[10:01] {Roman} 21 in WM
[10:01] {Roman} 21 3.85
[10:01] {esemde} nice trade Vad
[10:01] {Threei} ty
[10:01] {esemde} stopped
[10:01] {esemde} VDSI
[10:02] {peterg} out FNM @ .35 +30 tks vad
[10:02] {Threei} welcome
[10:02] {Roman} 21 out WB +.45
[10:02] {esemde} OK stopped twice.....i'm just watchin.....
[10:02] {Threei} wtg Roman
[10:03] {peterg} have boldly increased sh size to 300; can smell the $$
[10:03] {hawkfan4} thx for WB roman, nice one
[10:03] {Threei} follow MPP procedure peter
[10:03] {peterg} pride goeth...........
[10:03] {Roman} 21 yw, spike inthe markets helped
[10:04] {Threei} UAUA
[10:04] {Threei} S&P CUTS LONG-TERM RATINGS TO "B-" FROM "B"
[10:04] {peterg} ok taking out blue book
[10:04] {Threei} lol
[10:05] {Threei} making money is the beautiful thing, and position size increase helps... just don't want you to act in a rush, there are steps to follow
[10:05] {peterg} right, see p 170, increasing Trading size
[10:06] {Threei} right
[10:06] {peterg} When I screw up, drop back
[10:06] {Threei} trust me... those steps are derived form both my own experience and tutoring more traders than wanted to be tutored
[10:07] {peterg} I do vadsky, ido
[10:07] {Threei} trigger already QLGC
[10:07] {Threei} you know you want higher
[10:07] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 WM +.30
[10:08] {hawkfan4} thx again :) out full +.30 wm
[10:09] {Threei} fiiiinally
[10:09] {Threei} now just go, no shakes, no silly games
[10:09] {Roman} 21 once in a while we hae to get lucky
[10:09] {kazaam} stop 19.10?
[10:10] {Threei} how does it feel peter, to go from the state of "what the heck is going on" that you claimed not so long ago, to making money in live trading? :)
[10:10] {Threei} btw, let's put QLGC stop under .10
[10:11] {Threei} yes kaz
[10:11] {peterg} really good
[10:11] {Threei} initially was under .05
[10:11] {Threei} but it gave new range before triggering
[10:12] {Roman} 21 wacthing CROX
[10:12] {Roman} 21 maybe take very small
06[10:12] * Threei kicks QLGC in the rear with steel toed heavy duty army boots
[10:12] {Threei} ahha... violence works
[10:12] {peterg} I am learning techniques of following masters; quite a way from being one.
[10:12] {Threei} take that .25 now
[10:13] {Roman} 21 vad any read o CROX?
[10:13] {Threei} no, sorry
[10:13] {Threei} not my type
[10:13] {Threei} and I hate those shoes
[10:14] {Threei} FNM, this trime around 11 is not an entry IMO
[10:14] {Threei} let it sort things out for now
06[10:16] * Threei pokes QLGC with high voltage sharp stick
[10:16] {kazaam} would klac have been a good reversal play? at 37.28?
[10:16] {kazaam} or is that just hindsight agian
[10:17] {Threei} pattern wise, it's a valid one
[10:17] {Threei} not just hindsight
[10:17] {kazaam} tks
[10:18] {Threei} hmmm... did I paralyze QLGC with that poke?
[10:20] {esemde} obviously in too soon on JRCC...
[10:23] {Threei} UAUA .50 break long if USO drops
[10:23] {Threei} and if holding above .35
[10:26] {Threei} out QLGC
[10:26] {Threei} tiresome
[10:37] {kazaam} qcom, break of .92?
[10:39] {Threei} if market helps
[10:39] {Threei} wouldn't want to buy breaks in dropping market
[10:41] {kazaam} gotcha
[10:45] {Threei} stop under .80
[10:45] {Threei} with some padding probably, .75 or so
[10:48] {Threei} looks like help is coming
[10:48] {Threei} 55 break will make or break this play
[10:48] {kazaam} i am skeptical
[10:49] {kazaam} yep
[10:49] {Threei} I am not
[10:49] {Threei} it will break
[10:49] {Threei} broke... then retreated, lol
[10:54] {peterg} any read MEE
[10:55] {Chaeron} good morning all
[10:55] {Threei} no peter, too jumpy
[10:55] {Threei} Chaeron :)
[11:07] {peterg} going to get 2nd cup of coffee
[11:08] {peterg} large dark roast from Starbux inside B&N
[11:20] {peterg} back with lg cfee; no one has said anything since I left.
[11:20] {peterg} ok, b that way
[11:20] {Threei} lol
[11:21] {Threei} everything just fell asleep
[11:21] {peterg} flat lining
[11:23] {peterg} UAUA close to low again
[11:24] {peterg} USO up
[11:43] {peterg} what are people doing?
[11:44] {Threei} looking at scanner... looking at the charts...
[11:44] {peterg} is this the beginning of market summer?
[11:45] {Threei} could be... if so, we were blessed with almost 2 months of abnormal activity
[11:45] {Threei} and I have a feeling even the rest of summer is going to be way more usable than usual
[11:45] {peterg} good
[11:45] {hawkfan4} i hope you're right about that
[11:46] {Threei} yesterday was the first day in whole summer that I felt like summer
[11:46] {peterg} your baby needs new shoes, too?
[11:46] {Threei} and it was second half of the day only
[11:50] {peterg} ESRX? 2 days break
[11:51] {Threei} wirth small shares try
[11:51] {Threei} worth
[11:51] {Threei} can be very volatile, be careful\
[11:52] {peterg} just watchin
[11:53] {hawkfan4} vad, LEH short off 17.50 if the market turns?
[11:54] {Threei} do you havwe short available for it?
[11:54] {hawkfan4} yep
[11:54] {Threei} cool, then yes
[11:55] {hawkfan4} thanks :) in .55
[12:03] {Threei} covered any?
[12:05] {hawkfan4} not yet
[12:07] {hawkfan4} out 1/2 at .28
[12:08] {Threei} :)
[12:17] {peterg} Congratulations! How short LEH? Cox be comin
[12:18] {hawkfan4} lol, thx
[12:23] {hawkfan4} 1/4 more out .03
[12:27] {hawkfan4} out all .15
[12:28] {peterg} now go long LEH?
[12:28] {hawkfan4} not me
[12:30] {dptl} lost laser conection
[12:32] {dptl} vad..your laser workig?
[12:40] {Threei} yes
[12:41] {dptl} oh just came back...wierd
[12:41] {Threei} must be your connection... mine never quit
[12:50] {Threei} feelas like USO breakdown of 100 ashould trigger UAUA break of 8 for a long
[12:56] {Threei} stop under .90
[13:00] {Threei} 1:1
[13:01] {fernp} out +.12 TY
[13:02] {Threei} :)
[13:02] {Threei} easy money
[13:03] {Threei} once you get a grip on certain pattern, it's simply a matter of exploiting it until it stops working
[13:05] {fernp} too nervous for me UAUA, but this one was easy
[13:14] {hawkfan4} 13:12 S&P Puts Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae On CreditWatch Negative
[13:41] {dptl} cymi short?
[13:41] {Threei} probably, on .10 break
[13:42] {dptl} got .10
[13:42] {dptl} .20 stop
[13:44] {Threei} nice and easy
[13:44] {dptl} +.10
[13:48] {dptl} xmsr same set up looks like
[13:49] {dptl} if go thru .10 may be?
[13:52] {dptl} simo?
[14:05] {Threei} XMSR yes
[14:05] {dptl} stoped simo
[14:10] {fernp} have to go. see you on monday. have a nice weekend all
[14:10] {Threei} take care fern
[14:13] {Threei} test
[14:13] {dptl} pass
[14:13] {Threei} I guess...
[14:13] {Threei} for some reason I have typing bar separated by two sections
[14:14] {Threei} can't understand what second on is so I typed in it
[14:14] {Threei} whatever... two sections probably is better than one
[14:14] {dptl} :)
[14:14] {Threei} the very fact that I am researchinh it shows how bored I am {G}
[14:15] {Threei} FORMER FED GOVERNOR POOLE: THE GSES SHOULD BECOME PRIVATE FIRMS
[14:15] {Threei} {FNM}
[14:16] {dptl} short xmsr .16
[14:16] {dptl} .22 stop
[14:17] {dptl} may be it'll reak .10 now
[14:17] {dptl} break
[14:25] {dptl} biding 9 ..stop to b/e
[14:36] {dptl} out flat
[14:57] {Threei} do we really have two more hours to go??
[14:57] {Threei} I broke keyboard with my chin
[14:58] {dptl} just one
[14:58] {hawkfan4} just one more
[14:58] {Threei} oh
[14:58] {Threei} sheesh... lost ability to read the dial too
06[14:58] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[14:58] {Threei} nah... doesn't help... still sleepy
06[14:59] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with an old sofa with sticking springs
[15:00] {Threei} that's better
[15:00] {Threei} watch for PNSN possible pullback to 17.50 for bounce scalp
[15:06] {peterg} snooooore
[15:06] {peterg} how about seeing Batman ?
[15:13] {laserdave1} ah thats what i always wanted a new sofa
[15:26] {peterg} fading away into nothingness;
[15:30] {dptl} have a good weekend all
[15:31] {peterg} u2, dp
[15:31] {Threei} OK guys, let's end the torture
[15:32] {Threei} this is a day that ended within 2 hours after it begun
[15:32] {Threei} thank you all, have a great weekend, see you all on Monday
[15:32] {hawkfan4} thx vad
[15:33] {peterg} alrigihty then, have a good w/end & see you Mon
[08:26] {Threei} Fre
[08:26] {Threei} SAYS JUN RETAINED MORTGAGE PORFOLIO UP TO $791.8B V $770.4B PRIOR MONTH
[08:30] {Threei} JUN DURABLE GOODS ORDERS: 0.8% V -0.3%E;
[08:30] {Threei} EX-TRANSPORTATION: 2.0% V -0.2%E
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Durable Goods revised from 0.0% to 0.1%
[08:30] {Threei} - Prior Ex-Transportation revised from -0.8% to -0.5%
[09:00] {esemde} gutten morgan.....ya das vhat it izzz......a nader fine day!!!!
[09:00] {Threei} good morning :)
[09:00] {esemde} Vad..
[09:00] {esemde} cos, dp hawk jmb peter
[09:01] {hawkfan4} good morning
[09:01] {Threei} hawk :)
[09:06] {peterg} troops assembling--morning all
[09:06] {Threei} peter :)
[09:08] {fernp} good morning all
[09:08] {esemde} morning peter....By The Left!!!!Quick March!!!!!
[09:08] {Threei} fern :)
[09:09] {peterg} ese--you have marching band, yes?
[09:10] {peterg} or rock band,
[09:10] {peterg} music is your muse
[09:10] {peterg} one of them
[09:10] {cosmo} and wet grass for morning practice?
[09:11] {peterg} memory lane
[09:12] {judijim} hello and good morning all
[09:13] {Threei} jj :)
[09:14] {Threei} brb
[09:14] {peterg} byob?
[09:21] {Threei} FUEL
[09:21] {Threei} ENTERS MULTI-YEAR MARKETING AGREEMENT WITH CHEVRON
[09:21] {Threei} - Subsidiary H & W Petroleum Company, Inc. has entered into a multi-year Lubrication Marketer Agreement with CVX unit Chevron Products Company to market Chevron branded lubricants. The Company's similar agreement with Chevron U.S.A. for its Texaco brand of lubricants which was entered into in 2005 also remains in place.
[09:21] {Threei} - Financial terms were not disclosed
[09:23] {Threei} USO drop propped UAUA... realtion is still there
[09:27] {dptl} good morning all
[09:27] {Threei} dp :)
[09:28] {esemde} whoaaa...did you see the fusalage of that Qunatas 747 on route from London to Australia.....2.5 X 3 meter hole...
[09:28] {esemde} picture in the news
[09:28] {cosmo} what did it?
[09:29] {esemde} pasengers just heard an explosion of some kind.
[09:29] {cosmo} oh
[09:29] {cosmo} not Quantas...
[09:29] {peterg} may the market explode with happiness
[09:30] {esemde} http://www.mytelus.com/new_homepage/ ....heres a link to mytelus
[09:32] {Threei} SQNM 22.16 long if stays above 22, half lot
[09:32] {esemde} good looking daily chart Vad
[09:32] {Threei} and biotech sector really getting attention
[09:33] {esemde} i'm in bstop 22.16
[09:34] {Threei} wow FNM
[09:34] {kazaam} nuva, break of .50
[09:34] {kazaam} darn huge spread
[09:34] {esemde} sqnm invalidated
[09:35] {esemde} bstop removed for me
[09:37] {Threei} UAUA long .11
[09:37] {Threei} atop under 8
[09:38] {esemde} l jrcc 34.03
[09:38] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[09:39] {esemde} stop 33.80
[09:39] {Threei} take UAUA profit here who got it
[09:39] {esemde} stopped....damn that was fast
[09:39] {Threei} out +30
[09:40] {esemde} nice vad
[09:40] {esemde} bstop ARBA 17.11 1/2 lot
[09:40] {Threei} US SENATE ENERGY BILL REGARDING SPECULATION IN ENERGY MARKETS HAS REPORTEDLY FAILED A PROCEDURAL ELEMENT, WILL NOW BE SET ASIDE
[09:41] {Threei} [15:25] {Threei} I start really looking foward for oil to reverse back down... UAUA retreat is so significant, upside is going to be great
[09:42] {esemde} ARBA invalidated for me
[09:42] {esemde} hmmmmm...not having much luck here today
[09:43] {Threei} UAUA nice pullback, look for USO resumtion down for re-eentry
[09:44] {Threei} not yet, USO upticking
[09:44] {Threei} UAUA tends to overshoot on both sides, be patient
[09:44] {Threei} better miss the play than be in too early
[09:45] {kazaam} vad, i must say, you ability to type to the room and take these trades is remarkable, this is coming from a guy who has played video games his whole life
[09:45] {Threei} sometimes I miss them while typing
[09:45] {esemde} I'll Second that Emotion!
[09:45] {esemde} Smokey Robinson
[09:46] {Threei} on UAUA call parrticularly had to take .15 instead of .11
[09:47] {kazaam} any read on amzn?
[09:48] {Threei} 80 BREAK
[09:48] {Threei} SMALL
[09:48] {Threei} stop under .80
[09:48] {Threei} 1:2 already
[09:48] {kazaam} heh, i missed
[09:48] {Threei} I mean 1:4
[09:48] {Threei} lol
[09:49] {Roman} 21 CROX
[09:49] {Roman} 21 bouncing
[09:51] {Threei} QLGIC
[09:51] {Threei} QLGC
[09:51] {Threei} 19.20 long
[09:51] {Threei} if stays above 19.05
[09:52] {Roman} 21 bidding crox
[09:52] {Roman} 21 on pullback 5.01
[09:53] {kazaam} DNA might break 95.34
[09:53] {esemde} VDSI bstop 13.91
[09:54] {Roman} 21 observing WM on CNBC comments
[09:54] {Roman} 21 WM Washington Mutual: Faber on CNBC says WM spokesperson said they now have $50 bln in liquidity, up from $40 bln at end of Q2 (3.75 -0.28)
[09:55] {Threei} US SENATE HOUSING BILL HAS REPORTEDLY PASSED A PRODEDURAL ELEMENT, VOTE TO COME SAT
[09:55] {Threei} *JULY FINAL UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 61.2 V 56.4E
[09:55] {Threei} - 1 yr median inflation expectations at % v 5.3% July Prelim. (5.1% in June)
[09:55] {Threei} - 5 yr median inflation expectations at % v 3.4% July Prelim. (3.4% in June)
[09:55] {esemde} L VDSI .90
[09:56] {Roman} 21 WB
[09:56] {Roman} 21 for bounce
[09:56] {Roman} 21 in 15
[09:56] {Threei} FNM 11 break long
[09:58] {Threei} stop under 11.90
[09:58] {Threei} 10.90, sorry
[09:59] {kazaam} qlgc still gud?
[09:59] {Threei} yes
[10:00] {kazaam} go market go
[10:00] {Threei} JUN NEW HOME SALES: 530K V 503KE,
[10:00] {Threei} woohooo
[10:00] {peterg} FNM in at .04
[10:00] {Threei} -0.6% M/M V -1.8%E
[10:00] {Threei} - Prior revised from 512K to 533K
[10:00] {Threei} half out FNM
[10:01] {Roman} 21 in WM
[10:01] {Roman} 21 3.85
[10:01] {esemde} nice trade Vad
[10:01] {Threei} ty
[10:01] {esemde} stopped
[10:01] {esemde} VDSI
[10:02] {peterg} out FNM @ .35 +30 tks vad
[10:02] {Threei} welcome
[10:02] {Roman} 21 out WB +.45
[10:02] {esemde} OK stopped twice.....i'm just watchin.....
[10:02] {Threei} wtg Roman
[10:03] {peterg} have boldly increased sh size to 300; can smell the $$
[10:03] {hawkfan4} thx for WB roman, nice one
[10:03] {Threei} follow MPP procedure peter
[10:03] {peterg} pride goeth...........
[10:03] {Roman} 21 yw, spike inthe markets helped
[10:04] {Threei} UAUA
[10:04] {Threei} S&P CUTS LONG-TERM RATINGS TO "B-" FROM "B"
[10:04] {peterg} ok taking out blue book
[10:04] {Threei} lol
[10:05] {Threei} making money is the beautiful thing, and position size increase helps... just don't want you to act in a rush, there are steps to follow
[10:05] {peterg} right, see p 170, increasing Trading size
[10:06] {Threei} right
[10:06] {peterg} When I screw up, drop back
[10:06] {Threei} trust me... those steps are derived form both my own experience and tutoring more traders than wanted to be tutored
[10:07] {peterg} I do vadsky, ido
[10:07] {Threei} trigger already QLGC
[10:07] {Threei} you know you want higher
[10:07] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 WM +.30
[10:08] {hawkfan4} thx again :) out full +.30 wm
[10:09] {Threei} fiiiinally
[10:09] {Threei} now just go, no shakes, no silly games
[10:09] {Roman} 21 once in a while we hae to get lucky
[10:09] {kazaam} stop 19.10?
[10:10] {Threei} how does it feel peter, to go from the state of "what the heck is going on" that you claimed not so long ago, to making money in live trading? :)
[10:10] {Threei} btw, let's put QLGC stop under .10
[10:11] {Threei} yes kaz
[10:11] {peterg} really good
[10:11] {Threei} initially was under .05
[10:11] {Threei} but it gave new range before triggering
[10:12] {Roman} 21 wacthing CROX
[10:12] {Roman} 21 maybe take very small
06[10:12] * Threei kicks QLGC in the rear with steel toed heavy duty army boots
[10:12] {Threei} ahha... violence works
[10:12] {peterg} I am learning techniques of following masters; quite a way from being one.
[10:12] {Threei} take that .25 now
[10:13] {Roman} 21 vad any read o CROX?
[10:13] {Threei} no, sorry
[10:13] {Threei} not my type
[10:13] {Threei} and I hate those shoes
[10:14] {Threei} FNM, this trime around 11 is not an entry IMO
[10:14] {Threei} let it sort things out for now
06[10:16] * Threei pokes QLGC with high voltage sharp stick
[10:16] {kazaam} would klac have been a good reversal play? at 37.28?
[10:16] {kazaam} or is that just hindsight agian
[10:17] {Threei} pattern wise, it's a valid one
[10:17] {Threei} not just hindsight
[10:17] {kazaam} tks
[10:18] {Threei} hmmm... did I paralyze QLGC with that poke?
[10:20] {esemde} obviously in too soon on JRCC...
[10:23] {Threei} UAUA .50 break long if USO drops
[10:23] {Threei} and if holding above .35
[10:26] {Threei} out QLGC
[10:26] {Threei} tiresome
[10:37] {kazaam} qcom, break of .92?
[10:39] {Threei} if market helps
[10:39] {Threei} wouldn't want to buy breaks in dropping market
[10:41] {kazaam} gotcha
[10:45] {Threei} stop under .80
[10:45] {Threei} with some padding probably, .75 or so
[10:48] {Threei} looks like help is coming
[10:48] {Threei} 55 break will make or break this play
[10:48] {kazaam} i am skeptical
[10:49] {kazaam} yep
[10:49] {Threei} I am not
[10:49] {Threei} it will break
[10:49] {Threei} broke... then retreated, lol
[10:54] {peterg} any read MEE
[10:55] {Chaeron} good morning all
[10:55] {Threei} no peter, too jumpy
[10:55] {Threei} Chaeron :)
[11:07] {peterg} going to get 2nd cup of coffee
[11:08] {peterg} large dark roast from Starbux inside B&N
[11:20] {peterg} back with lg cfee; no one has said anything since I left.
[11:20] {peterg} ok, b that way
[11:20] {Threei} lol
[11:21] {Threei} everything just fell asleep
[11:21] {peterg} flat lining
[11:23] {peterg} UAUA close to low again
[11:24] {peterg} USO up
[11:43] {peterg} what are people doing?
[11:44] {Threei} looking at scanner... looking at the charts...
[11:44] {peterg} is this the beginning of market summer?
[11:45] {Threei} could be... if so, we were blessed with almost 2 months of abnormal activity
[11:45] {Threei} and I have a feeling even the rest of summer is going to be way more usable than usual
[11:45] {peterg} good
[11:45] {hawkfan4} i hope you're right about that
[11:46] {Threei} yesterday was the first day in whole summer that I felt like summer
[11:46] {peterg} your baby needs new shoes, too?
[11:46] {Threei} and it was second half of the day only
[11:50] {peterg} ESRX? 2 days break
[11:51] {Threei} wirth small shares try
[11:51] {Threei} worth
[11:51] {Threei} can be very volatile, be careful\
[11:52] {peterg} just watchin
[11:53] {hawkfan4} vad, LEH short off 17.50 if the market turns?
[11:54] {Threei} do you havwe short available for it?
[11:54] {hawkfan4} yep
[11:54] {Threei} cool, then yes
[11:55] {hawkfan4} thanks :) in .55
[12:03] {Threei} covered any?
[12:05] {hawkfan4} not yet
[12:07] {hawkfan4} out 1/2 at .28
[12:08] {Threei} :)
[12:17] {peterg} Congratulations! How short LEH? Cox be comin
[12:18] {hawkfan4} lol, thx
[12:23] {hawkfan4} 1/4 more out .03
[12:27] {hawkfan4} out all .15
[12:28] {peterg} now go long LEH?
[12:28] {hawkfan4} not me
[12:30] {dptl} lost laser conection
[12:32] {dptl} vad..your laser workig?
[12:40] {Threei} yes
[12:41] {dptl} oh just came back...wierd
[12:41] {Threei} must be your connection... mine never quit
[12:50] {Threei} feelas like USO breakdown of 100 ashould trigger UAUA break of 8 for a long
[12:56] {Threei} stop under .90
[13:00] {Threei} 1:1
[13:01] {fernp} out +.12 TY
[13:02] {Threei} :)
[13:02] {Threei} easy money
[13:03] {Threei} once you get a grip on certain pattern, it's simply a matter of exploiting it until it stops working
[13:05] {fernp} too nervous for me UAUA, but this one was easy
[13:14] {hawkfan4} 13:12 S&P Puts Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae On CreditWatch Negative
[13:41] {dptl} cymi short?
[13:41] {Threei} probably, on .10 break
[13:42] {dptl} got .10
[13:42] {dptl} .20 stop
[13:44] {Threei} nice and easy
[13:44] {dptl} +.10
[13:48] {dptl} xmsr same set up looks like
[13:49] {dptl} if go thru .10 may be?
[13:52] {dptl} simo?
[14:05] {Threei} XMSR yes
[14:05] {dptl} stoped simo
[14:10] {fernp} have to go. see you on monday. have a nice weekend all
[14:10] {Threei} take care fern
[14:13] {Threei} test
[14:13] {dptl} pass
[14:13] {Threei} I guess...
[14:13] {Threei} for some reason I have typing bar separated by two sections
[14:14] {Threei} can't understand what second on is so I typed in it
[14:14] {Threei} whatever... two sections probably is better than one
[14:14] {dptl} :)
[14:14] {Threei} the very fact that I am researchinh it shows how bored I am {G}
[14:15] {Threei} FORMER FED GOVERNOR POOLE: THE GSES SHOULD BECOME PRIVATE FIRMS
[14:15] {Threei} {FNM}
[14:16] {dptl} short xmsr .16
[14:16] {dptl} .22 stop
[14:17] {dptl} may be it'll reak .10 now
[14:17] {dptl} break
[14:25] {dptl} biding 9 ..stop to b/e
[14:36] {dptl} out flat
[14:57] {Threei} do we really have two more hours to go??
[14:57] {Threei} I broke keyboard with my chin
[14:58] {dptl} just one
[14:58] {hawkfan4} just one more
[14:58] {Threei} oh
[14:58] {Threei} sheesh... lost ability to read the dial too
06[14:58] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[14:58] {Threei} nah... doesn't help... still sleepy
06[14:59] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with an old sofa with sticking springs
[15:00] {Threei} that's better
[15:00] {Threei} watch for PNSN possible pullback to 17.50 for bounce scalp
[15:06] {peterg} snooooore
[15:06] {peterg} how about seeing Batman ?
[15:13] {laserdave1} ah thats what i always wanted a new sofa
[15:26] {peterg} fading away into nothingness;
[15:30] {dptl} have a good weekend all
[15:31] {peterg} u2, dp
[15:31] {Threei} OK guys, let's end the torture
[15:32] {Threei} this is a day that ended within 2 hours after it begun
[15:32] {Threei} thank you all, have a great weekend, see you all on Monday
[15:32] {hawkfan4} thx vad
[15:33] {peterg} alrigihty then, have a good w/end & see you Mon
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