Session Start: Thu Nov 15 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Thu Nov 15 00:00:00 2007
[05:27] {bruce} morning all
[05:36] {Threei} morning bruce
[05:37] {Threei} *OCT CONSUME PRICE INDEX M/M: 0.3% V 0.3%E, CPI EX FOOD_ENERGY M/M: 0.2% V 0.2%E, CPI NSA: 208.936 V 208.900
[05:37] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 339K V 320KE, CONTINUING CLAIMS:2.568 M V 2.575ME
[05:37] {Threei} - Prior Continuing Claims revised from 2.579M to 2.575M
[05:38] {Threei} *NOV EMPIRE MANUFACTURING: 27.4 V 19.0E
[05:39] {hawkfan4} good morning vad
[05:41] {bruce} hello hawk
[05:43] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:45] {hawkfan4} morning bruce
[05:45] {bruce} do you need to reset laser charts every morning vad?
[05:45] {Threei} no why?
[05:45] {bruce} I keep a few small thmbnail charts always open
[05:45] {bruce} each morning about half never open
[05:46] {bruce} I need to type in new stock symbol to get them to display anything
[05:46] {Threei} did you save the layout after you made changes?
[05:46] {bruce} yes
[05:46] {Threei} wait... never opens as in don't show anything, remaining blank? or window itself doesn't appear?
[05:46] {bruce} not a big deal
[05:46] {bruce} just a nuisance
[05:47] {bruce} well for example
[05:47] {bruce} one chart is of rimm
[05:47] {bruce} it says rimm
[05:47] {cosmo} ADLS pre mkt high = 2.95 ...so far
[05:47] {bruce} but nothing is showing
[05:47] {bruce} and there is an x in left corner
[05:48] {Threei} X is a sign that chart is not working, yes
[05:48] {bruce} if I type ibm that stock comes up ok
[05:48] {bruce} then I can type rimm again and it will be ok
[05:48] {Threei} but why it happens for you and not for me... no idea
[05:48] {bruce} I'm using vista
[05:48] {Threei} argh
[05:48] {Threei} POS
[05:48] {bruce} may be a glitch
[05:49] {bruce} about half come up and half dont
[05:49] {Threei} [ADLS] Advanced Life Sciences Cethromycin Achieves All Endpoints in Second Pivotal Phase III Trial for Treatment of Pneumonia
[05:50] {Threei} will be years or some unexpected event that makes me switch to vista
[05:52] {dptl} good morning all
[05:53] {Threei} dp :)
[05:53] {cosmo} LOCM pre mkt high = 4.51 ...so far
[05:53] {Threei} I don't see any LOCM news
[05:54] {cosmo} Local.com begins licensing local search tdchnology
[05:54] {cosmo} Briefing.com (Thu 7:02am)
[05:54] {Threei} ty
[05:54] {cosmo} :)
[05:55] {Threei} OPEC PRESIDENT: HIGH OIL PRICES ARE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS; HIGH OIL PRICES HAVE A LIMITED IMPACT ON DEMAND
[05:55] {bruce} hi dp, cosmo
[05:55] {cosmo} bruce:)
[05:58] {Threei} NUAN GUIDES FY08 R$875-900M V 864.7M
[06:02] {esemde} good morning ....NUAN is back ehhhhhh
[06:02] {Threei} ese :)
[06:02] {Threei} morning fingers warm-up
[06:02] {Threei} grabbed half lot at 20, bailed at 20.07 and .06
[06:02] {Threei} made whole 25 bucks
[06:03] {esemde} nice work.....pre a post trding is a tough business
[06:03] {Threei} MICROSOFT TO PAY $46M TO ACQUIRE MUSICWAVE SA FROM OPWV
[06:03] {Threei} something's wrong with NUAN
[06:04] {Threei} dumping like there is no tomorrow
[06:04] {Threei} or there is but very bleak
[06:04] {bruce} hi ese
[06:05] {bruce} how are you dealaing w new celebrity status?
[06:06] {bruce} rimm appears to be at premarket low
[06:06] {dino} gm all;
[06:06] {bruce} want to try a bouce vad?
[06:07] {Threei} dino :)
[06:07] {bruce} hi dino
[06:07] {Threei} he is not really NEW celebrity bruce... name him to practically anyone in music scene here, everyone nods
[06:07] {Threei} bounce on what?
[06:07] {Threei} NUAN?
[06:07] {bruce} no answer - hes proably signing autographs right now
[06:07] {dino} gm bruce
[06:07] {bruce} rimm
[06:07] {Threei} or instructing his bodyguards to keep you away bruce
[06:08] {bruce} you bet - I'm dangerous
[06:08] {Threei} hmmm... not sure
[06:08] {Threei} RIMM is dangerous as it is, multiply by 3 premarket
[06:08] {bruce} about dangerous or the bounce?
[06:09] {Threei} lol, bounce
[06:09] {bruce} k
[06:09] {Threei} my take on premarket trading:
[06:10] {Threei} it takes something very very clear or extraordinary to make me do it
[06:11] {Threei} routine opportinities will be presented all over during normal market hours, why would I want to chase them in more risky premarket environment
[06:11] {bruce} k - same
[06:11] {bruce} I start looking at charts about premarket open - but don't trade those
[06:11] {Threei} same
[06:11] {bruce} spreads too big
[06:11] {Threei} shape up initial universe of stocks to watch
[06:15] {Threei} NTAP is back to yesterday's close
[06:24] {Roman} LDK alert
[06:25] {Roman} LDK sees Q4 $0.37-0.41 vs $0.39 Reuters consensus; sees revs $165-170 mln vs $163.12 mln Reuters consensus
[06:25] {Threei} too bad I couldn't short it for long term hold
[06:32] {Threei} NTAP short ,89
[06:32] {Threei} 27.01 stop
[06:33] {dino} rig hl l .13
[06:33] {Threei} out .65
[06:33] {dino} stop lod
[06:33] {Threei} 1:3 in seconds
[06:34] {Threei} 1:2 sorry
[06:34] {Threei} and if I had just a bit more patience...
[06:34] {bruce} missed it completely
[06:34] {bruce} never got it up in time
[06:34] {Roman} ETFC
[06:34] {bruce} nice trade bvad
[06:34] {Threei} it was there for a while after my post...
[06:36] {esemde} long CSIQ 14.93....
[06:36] {bruce} what do you call that ?
[06:36] {bruce} short continuation on pullback?
[06:37] {Threei} just short...
[06:37] {Threei} nice CSIQ ese
[06:39] {Threei} half out?
[06:40] {esemde} out CSIQ .35 +.42
[06:40] {Threei} wtg
[06:40] {esemde} still goin but i'll take my .42
[06:41] {dino} gj
[06:42] {Threei} as much as I would like to tell you "no, hold it"... my hardcore scalper's nature prevents me from lecturing anyone of taking profit :)
[06:42] {esemde} if it retraces i'lll think about the pull back
[06:42] {Threei} or consolidates and forms a range for breakout
[06:42] {Threei} SEED
[06:43] {esemde} yes
[06:43] {Threei} I don't swee any SEED news
[06:43] {Roman} GIGM
[06:43] {Roman} long off 21
[06:43] {Threei} thing dropped from highs deep enough to beconme a bounce play
[06:44] {Threei} 6.67 long half lot
[06:44] {Threei} OPEC PRESIDENT SAYS WILL NOT HESITATE TO INCREASE OUTPUT IF WARRANTED BY SHORTAGES
[06:46] {Threei} sheesh NTAP
[06:47] {bruce} ptry
[06:47] {Threei} living proof why I have no rights to tell anyone to hold longer
[06:47] {Threei} 09:46:50 ADMIN7 --} (All): NASDAQ has declared Self Help against the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) as/of 9:34:45 E.T
[06:47] {Threei} what the heck does that mean
[06:48] {bruce} hmmm - maybe they're offering relaxation courses to nyse market makers?
[06:49] {dino} rig stopped -.34
[06:49] {Threei} 09:49:16 ADMIN7 --} (All): NYSE having systemwide problems!
[06:51] {esemde} long ESLR 13.23
[06:54] {esemde} out ESLR .43 +.20 scalp
[06:54] {Threei} wtg
[06:54] {Threei} ese is hot
[06:54] {Threei} if a quote is not updating, a market center can declare self-help, and must notify the destination(s) of its order flow that a self-help situation exists. In such a situation, NASDAQ will turn off its router to the market center (as it has in the past). What is new is the explicit declaration of a self-help situation.
[06:54] {esemde} tks....
[06:55] {bruce} congrats ese
[06:55] {bruce} no idea at all how you saw eslr as a ong but gald it worked for you
[06:56] {dino} gsol l .92, stop .46
[06:56] {esemde} done for the day basically....
[06:56] {Threei} ese is my hero... wake up, grab easy money, go about your life... or back to sleep
[06:57] {dino} great job ese
[06:57] {esemde} tks Vad....have a good mentor
[06:57] {esemde} Am just going to be watching and enjoying you all
[06:58] {Threei} care to introduce me to him?
[06:58] {esemde} sure he make great shikabob
[06:58] {Threei} OK, I think I finally found it
[06:58] {Threei} Nasdaq Self Help Declarations/Revocations messages (“Notices”). These Notices will alert participants that Nasdaq is experiencing communications issues with a particular market center. It is intended to cause members to perform an independent review of their communications with that market center and assess their trading obligations with respect to that market
[06:59] {Threei} just an aleret about troubles at certain market
[06:59] {bruce} translation - dont trade nyse now
[06:59] {Threei} yep, and for NYSE - "get your sh*t together
[07:00] {Threei} Roman's SATC is trying
[07:01] {Threei} CSIQ again
[07:01] {Threei} .20 break half lot long
[07:01] {dino} gsol stopped , major slippage -.60
[07:01] {Threei} only if stays above 16
[07:01] {bruce} yep - really rinsed on that one
[07:02] {dino} nose bleeding, they tagged me
[07:02] {Threei} CSIQ 1:1
[07:03] {Threei} exit into spike
[07:03] {Threei} out .60
[07:03] {esemde} nice work....
[07:03] {Threei} quick and easy .37, got it at .23
[07:03] {esemde} see.... i said i'd enjoy this
[07:04] {Threei} :)
[07:04] {dino} ati hl l .25, stop .83
[07:06] {dino} stopped. taking a break
[07:07] {bruce} major downspike - good you got out dino
[07:08] {Threei} 16.80 break CSIQ again, small shares
[07:08] {dino} yeah
[07:08] {Threei} geting riskier as moves higher
[07:08] {dino} off of .00 try again
[07:08] {dino} mkt wants up imo
[07:09] {Threei} exit here
[07:09] {Threei} quick 25 cents
[07:09] {dino} ok
[07:10] {bruce} nice vad - I didn't take it - looked like stop was about .29?
[07:10] {Threei} {--- major source of ese's enetrainment this morning
[07:10] {Threei} .29??
[07:10] {Threei} no way
[07:10] {Roman} long ESLR
[07:11] {bruce} k - thats last low I saw on one min
[07:11] {Threei} two bars before the break bottomed just above .50
[07:12] {dino} the only bar i see is a block up the street
[07:12] {bruce} k - I see that too
[07:12] {bruce} just wondering where I would have set stop if had taken it
[07:13] {bruce} thanx
[07:13] {Threei} I would replace it with candles dini, but I am scared even to think what kkinf of associations that could inbvoke in you
[07:14] {dino} lol
[07:14] {Threei} :)
[07:14] {Threei} NTAP .51 long
[07:14] {Threei} .39 stop
[07:15] {Threei} sheesh CSIQ
[07:15] {esemde} No kidding....
[07:16] {esemde} wowwwww
[07:17] {bruce} stopped ntap
[07:19] {dino} dwsn pop
[07:20] {Threei} DTSI small shares long if breaks .28
[07:21] {Threei} CSUN
[07:21] {Threei} .85 half lot long
[07:22] {bruce} stop .14 dtsi vad?
[07:22] {Threei} yes but slippage will likely take you out under .10
[07:22] {Threei} so small shares
[07:23] {bruce} k
[07:23] {Threei} ugh... mistype CSUN
[07:23] {Threei} .55 trigger
[07:24] {bruce} was wondering about that
[07:24] {bruce} big offer at .58 vad
[07:24] {Threei} and big bid at .50...
[07:24] {Threei} momo comes they all don't matter
[07:25] {bruce} k
[07:25] {Threei} no momo, even 1K offer will scare them off
[07:31] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: +2.8M V -750KE; GASOLINE: +714K V -100KE; DISTILLATES: -2M V -200KE; UTILIZATION: 87.7 % V 86.7%E
[07:31] {Threei} *EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: -9BCF VS. -5 TO -10 BCF EXPECTED RANGE
[07:31] {bruce} csun stop to .39 would think?
[07:31] {Threei} yup
[07:32] {Threei} we are swimming in oil according to those numbers or what
[07:35] {bruce} bloody hell - stopped
[07:35] {bruce} sheesh
[07:37] {dino} thatkkind of day sop far, stops
[07:43] {Threei} CSIQ bounce candidate
[07:44] {Threei} as close to 16 as possible
[07:47] {Threei} missed... wanted it lower
[07:49] {bruce} actg long vad?
[07:50] {Threei} .40 break...
[07:50] {Threei} worth a try, half lot
[07:50] {Threei} stop would have to be under .20
[07:51] {bruce} k - was hoping .25 would be reasonalbe stop
[07:51] {Threei} .24
[07:52] {Threei} best I can do, sorry :)
[07:52] {Threei} I would have to go to my super to get you a better price
[07:52] {bruce} lol - understood - got to listen to market
[07:54] {Roman} SATC
[07:57] {dino} rimm 105
[07:57] {Roman} LOCM high
[07:59] {Threei} very nice read on SATC roman
[07:59] {Threei} I wish I had patience for this kind
[08:02] {Threei} bruce
[08:02] {Threei} offer it out
[08:02] {Threei} it's trading above 1:1 at the offer
[08:03] {Roman} GIGM spike
[08:03] {bruce} out
[08:03] {Threei} good
[08:03] {bruce} thanx
[08:03] {Threei} I don't care what it does next, you just need a win
[08:03] {bruce} 3 stops 1 win
[08:04] {bruce} probably should have stopped for day already butglad that one worked
[08:04] {Threei} I don't want to overdrill it... but review the calls
[08:04] {Threei} you skipped all winning ones, and fairly decent size of wins,
[08:04] {Threei} and picked two small stops
[08:05] {bruce} yes - missed winners
[08:06] {bruce} typical
[08:06] {Threei} the day you know why you do it, or learn how to overcome this is the day tyour trading turns around
[08:07] {bruce} it wan't intentional vad
[08:07] {bruce} busy looking for trades and look at this screen intermittently
[08:07] {Threei} of course not
[08:08] {Threei} but when it happens so often that you label it as typical
[08:08] {Threei} it's not an accident
[08:08] {bruce} it is typical
[08:08] {Threei} it's a pattern
[08:08] {bruce} you've seen it
[08:08] {bruce} don't see how that canhappen over and over
[08:08] {Threei} I have
[08:08] {bruce} I'm not screening what I take
[08:14] {esemde} have a great rest of the day everyone.....
[08:14] {bruce} see you ese
[08:14] {Threei} take cares ese
[08:14] {esemde} see ya bruce Vad...
[08:19] {bruce} wow - actg - wish I'd held half
[08:19] {Threei} no you don't
[08:22] {bruce} loh_ was good to exit withwin on all of it for sure
[08:30] {bruce} bucy dino
[08:33] {dino} dk
[08:35] {bruce} nyse is having connection issues dino
[08:36] {bruce} any read bphx vad?
[08:36] {Threei} not really
[08:37] {Threei} can do anything here
[08:37] {bruce} k
[08:44] {dino} abii
[08:45] {dino} can't be right
[08:45] {dino} spinoff
[08:46] {Threei} eeck
[08:47] {dino} for the mkt being down only a couple, stocks i watch are getting crushed
[08:47] {bruce} wow - almost 9$ spread
[08:48] {dino} we missed that, should've took a 100 shares short
[08:48] {bruce} probably not a great time to be swing trading - stocks seem to be pretty erratic
[08:49] {bruce} shell shocked here dino- looking for something a bit safer
[08:49] {dino} yeah, i'm not doing much
[08:50] {dino} watching dwsn for bottom and actg for spike up to short
[08:50] {dino} serious pin action imo, taking lots to the 5's and 0's
[08:50] {Threei} GNBT...
[08:51] {Threei} hate this stock... but seems to be climbing steadily
[08:52] {bruce} I thought you advised agains t stocks with such a small daily range vad
[08:53] {Threei} that's why I hate it
[08:53] {bruce} lol
[08:53] {Threei} it's eaither swing, or sclap type 1 if you can identify the setup
[08:53] {bruce} fwiw hon has really nice tend too - but who knows where it will reverse - and its nyse
[08:57] {bruce} do you find most of your winning trades tend to work out right away dino?
[08:59] {dino} no, my entries usually suck
[08:59] {dino} expect to be wrong...as i usually lose a dime on entry
[08:59] {bruce} not true - saw youcatch almost exact bottom or top multiple times
[09:00] {dino} small %
[09:00] {Threei} *NOV PHILADELPHIA FED INDEX: 8.2 V 5.0E
[09:00] {dino} but doesn't matter, size and stop matter. profits=luck... losses = skill
[09:00] {Threei} - New Orders: 3.5 v 2.7 prior
[09:00] {Threei} - Employment: 4.8 v 12.6 prior
[09:00] {Threei} - Prices Paid: 37.7 v 40.3 prior
[09:01] {bruce} k
[09:14] {bruce} ntap deciding whether to breakdown
[09:15] {bruce} thought on ntap vad?
[09:17] {dino} ms l .86 hl
[09:21] {Threei} tough one bruce...
[09:22] {bruce} k
[09:23] {dino} ms stop is .69 fwiw
[09:27] {dino} out -.17\
[09:31] {bruce} bad luck today dino
[09:32] {dino} yes, not my day, most likely end in red
[09:36] {bruce} rimm is dropping
[09:38] {dino} appy
[09:40] {dino} hl l .79
[09:44] {dino} stop is .49
[09:45] {bruce} thanx dino
[09:46] {dino} np
[09:53] {dino} almost like double ottom day on rimm, dwsn, rig, nyx, drys, tbsi, etc
[09:54] {dino} bottom
[09:56] {dino} tighen appy to b/e stalled
[09:57] {bruce} yes
[09:57] {bruce} exiting dino
[09:57] {bruce} no nerves today
[09:58] {bruce} gonna take a break
[09:58] {dino} brb
[10:11] {Threei} CSIQ, 16.10 worth a try long if not losing 15.90 anymore
[10:17] {Threei} wow... blast from the past... ADAM
[10:25] {Threei} half lot short ACTG right here
[10:25] {Threei} stop over .60
[10:26] {Threei} just counting in .50 continuing holding
[10:26] {dino} ehth
[10:28] {Threei} still going
[10:33] {dino} missed it
[10:33] {Threei} die ACTG
[10:34] {dino} you took it where?
[10:34] {dino} ok i see above
[10:35] {Threei} .47
[10:37] {Threei} 1:1... feels like has more in it...
[10:37] {Threei} bidding .15
[10:37] {Threei} won't let it go over .35 on me
[10:38] {dino} gj
[10:38] {Threei} half done
[10:38] {Threei} done in full
[10:39] {Threei} that was nice... no upticks, just died
[10:40] {dino} ehth s hl .55, stop .01
[10:41] {dino} gj
[10:44] {dino} bstop to .31
[10:44] {dino} to .12
[10:45] {dino} stopped .10, +.45
[10:46] {Threei} wow, gutsy one
[10:46] {Threei} ugh, ACTG still dropping
[10:46] {dino} something had to work, :)
[10:46] {Threei} LOCM some enthusiasm
[10:46] {dino} big bounce
[10:47] {dino} frpt
[10:49] {dino} frpt l hl .00, stop .73
[10:50] {Threei} some day I will be like dino, and will hold ACTG short for real move :)
[10:52] {dptl} still holding
[10:53] {dino} lol, i only get the big ones when they don't bounce to my trailing stop
[10:53] {Threei} ACTG dp??
[10:53] {dptl} yep
[10:53] {Threei} wow, you are patient one
[10:53] {dino} gj
[10:53] {Threei} this one never did dino... I just bid it into sharp drop
[10:54] {Threei} with trailing it would work for something like 16.80
[10:54] {Threei} and I covered 30 cents higher on average
[10:55] {Threei} I was tempted to say "bidded" but was scared of Raven
[10:56] {dino} lol
[10:56] {Threei} come on dp, it strengthens
[10:57] {Threei} trail to .86
[10:57] {Threei} please?
[10:57] {dptl} ah....covered .82
[10:57] {Threei} wtg
[10:57] {Threei} that was a grown-up trade
[10:57] {Threei} dino-like
[10:58] {dptl} +.58
[10:58] {dino} great job
[10:58] {dptl} thnx
[10:59] {Threei} one such trade can make whole day
[10:59] {Threei} and it was anything but stressful
[10:59] {Threei} lousy 10-15 cents stop
[11:00] {dino} fmcn
[11:01] {dino} apopy stopped -.04
[11:01] {Threei} in FMCN, stop just under .50
[11:01] {Threei} small of course
[11:04] {Threei} bids started chasing up
[11:05] {Threei} come on, move
[11:05] {Threei} nope
[11:06] {Threei} those were all real bids, and got sold into
[11:08] {Threei} can't decide if it's worth a second try
[11:17] {Raven} back ... "bidded" ... ohmygod
[11:18] {bruce} is ohmygod a word raven?
[11:18] {Raven} you bet
[11:18] {bruce} k
[11:18] {bruce} adding it to vacab learned here
[11:18] {Raven} yes
[11:21] {Threei} bidded is just as good as spreaded
[11:21] {Threei} or selled
[11:21] {Threei} or striked
[11:22] {Raven} {}
[11:22] {Raven} sheesh
[11:22] {Threei} {--- hiding
[11:22] {Threei} ummm... I should say "hided"
[11:22] {Raven} that does it
[11:22] * Raven slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:22] {Threei} uh oh
[11:22] {Threei} hided not too well I see
[11:22] * Raven slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[11:23] * Raven and Chaeron too
[11:24] * Raven kicks magoo out of his tree stand
[11:25] {bruce} fmcn tricky ba@ta@d
[11:25] {bruce} new low then higher low confirmation of trend reversal
[11:27] {dino} lol\
[11:33] {bruce} dino - you would have given fmcn about 20c from new low for your stop if had traded it as reversal?
[11:39] {dino} y
[11:39] {dino} never hit me i was at 54.05
[11:39] {Threei} raven hit you
[11:39] {Threei} doesa it count?
[11:40] {Threei} I mean he hitted you
[11:40] {Threei} gosh, one day Raven is going to take a trip to Victoria just to suffocate me
[11:41] {bruce} ah - you mean your long entry is at .05 or your stop?
[11:41] {dino} long entry, stop was .69\
[11:41] {bruce} k - got you
[11:41] {dino} figured .00 would hold
[11:41] {dino} not trading it now tho
[11:42] {Raven} lol
[11:42] {bruce} looks like you read it right - doesn't seem to be done dumping yet
[11:42] {dino} can't figure out what this mkt wants today
[11:42] {Raven} your $$
[11:42] {bruce} lol
[11:42] {bruce} raven nailed it
[11:42] {Threei} sure... but why "today"?
[11:43] {Raven} because it is snowing ?
[11:43] {Threei} maybe I am paranoid... but it seems to me it always wants mine
[11:43] {Threei} rarely gets it though
[11:43] {Raven} heh
[11:43] {bruce} lol - got to learn to share vad
[11:43] {Threei} my streak continues so far, no single l,osing day in Nov
[11:44] {Raven} nice
[11:44] {Threei} I shared my fair share in 1996-1998 bruce
[11:44] {bruce} great
[11:44] {Threei} enough is enough
[11:44] {bruce} feel same
[11:44] {Threei} since then sharing goes one way
[11:44] {bruce} done done done w sharing
[11:51] {dino} bidu -24
[11:52] {Threei} -26 you mean
[11:53] {dino} lol
[12:00] {dino} rimm back to 100
[12:09] {Threei} getting tempted by RIMM
[12:09] {dino} same thinking overnight
[12:09] {dino} same w/bidu small
[12:11] {Threei} in for a scalp
[12:11] {Threei} .28
[12:12] {Threei} happily out
[12:12] {Threei} .65
[12:15] {Threei} sigh
[12:15] {Threei} do I ever grow up
[12:17] {bruce} why would you want to vad?
[12:17] {Threei} I wanna be like dino
[12:17] {bruce} would make you an "old fart" as the kids say
[12:17] {bruce} lol
[12:17] {Threei} ummm
[12:17] {Threei} am afraid I am there already, lol
[12:18] {dino} dino is younger than vad
[12:18] {bruce} just get yourself one of those funny circus mirrors
[12:18] {Threei} dino gets bigger moves
[12:18] {bruce} lucky you dino
[12:18] {bruce} youth
[12:18] {dino} missed both, my kids distracted me
[12:18] {bruce} \good lucks
[12:18] {bruce} and good lucks in the markets
[12:18] {bruce} what more could you ask for?
[12:19] {bruce} lol
[12:20] {dino} bidu up 6
[12:22] {bruce} yes -i like dinos plays too- like the larger moves
[12:24] {Threei} don't take my blabbing too seriuosly bruce
[12:24] {Threei} what I do works for me for many years
[12:24] {Threei} indivudual personalitytraits form the way of trading
[12:24] {dino} you have to find your own style bruce.
[12:24] {bruce} understood
[12:24] {Threei} and I am a bit too old to change my personality
[12:25] {Threei} entire process of learning to trade is nothing more than process of learning what you are
[12:26] {Threei} and how to transfer this knowledge into what youi do
[12:26] {dptl} yep...i am still trying to figure that out
[12:26] {bruce} me too
[12:26] {bruce} does shallow count?
[12:27] {Threei} that would be me
[12:27] {dino} lol
[12:27] {Threei} so yes it doesa
[12:27] {bruce} damn - hoped not
[12:27] {Threei} tree good, fire bad
[12:27] {Threei} this deep wisdom is enough to trade correctly
[12:28] {Threei} profit good, loss bad - there, try to beat this
[12:28] {bruce} lol
[12:28] {Threei} now, the real shocker bruce:
[12:28] {bruce} possible reversal setup cmi dino
[12:28] {Threei} if you think the right way to trade is much different from what I just said, you are mistaken
[12:29] {Threei} it's just that it takes a lot of complications to arrive at this simplicity
[12:29] {Threei} but when things click for you, you find out that this is really that simple
[12:29] {bruce} well - starting to think I'm just cursed
[12:30] {bruce} would have quit long ago if had any brains
[12:30] {Threei} there is a good reason why dino repeats all the time "keep it simple"
[12:30] {Threei} noone is cursed
[12:30] {Threei} you are looking in a wrong place
[12:31] {Threei} and if I thought like that, I would have quit somewhere in a course of my first two years
[12:31] {Threei} what a shame that would be
[12:31] {Threei} RIMM ready again
[12:31] {bruce} you haven't noticed my knack for jinxing your own callsw?
[12:32] {Threei} nope
[12:32] {Threei} you just pick out of them
[12:32] {Threei} some work some don't
[12:32] {Threei} normal for me
[12:32] {Threei} most work as you can see easily if you go over log
[12:34] {Threei} but when you try to pick only working ones you ruin the very core of the approach
[12:34] {dino} right
[12:34] {dino} 'cause you mess w/the system
[12:34] {dino} crrc
[12:34] {bruce} I don't do that though
[12:34] {Threei} yep, tryying to beat the odds
[12:34] {Threei} no?
[12:35] {bruce} laptop is not in direct view
[12:35] {Threei} each day you follow several losing ones while skipping several winning ones
[12:35] {bruce} so sometimesw I don't see trade till after it fires
[12:35] {dino} thin
[12:35] {dino} ccrc i mean
[12:35] {Threei} didn't think you meant me
[12:35] {Threei} 'cause am not
[12:36] {Threei} but am trying
[12:36] {Threei} diet... exericise...
[12:41] {Raven} lol
[12:43] {Threei} tell me you got RIMM near 101 dino
[12:44] {dino} cmi l hl .75
[12:44] {Threei} 'cause I did... but being putz I am sold 101.65
[12:44] {dino} stop lod
[12:46] {dino} no
[12:46] {dino} cmi instead
[12:46] {Threei} :(
[12:46] {Threei} you would have held to 103
[12:46] {Threei} unlike shmuck me
[12:46] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[12:46] {Threei} there... I feel better now
[12:47] {dptl} i would...lol
[12:47] {Threei} lol
[12:48] {Threei} underexploited RIMM today for some reason
[12:48] {Threei} just 3 trades
[12:48] {bruce} cmi w 113 breakand 112.50 stop dino?
[12:49] {dino} y
[12:49] {bruce} k
[12:49] {bruce} maybe i'm learning
[12:53] {Threei} argh
[12:53] {Threei} missed RIMM on dive under 102
[12:53] {Threei} wanted last scalp for the day
[12:54] {bruce} since when you starte to play stuff like rimm vad?
[12:55] {Threei} when it became readable
[12:55] {Threei} it stops I quit
[12:55] {Threei} I don't really have any preferences for stocks, I go where activity and readability is
[12:55] {Threei} and risk control within my tolerance of course
[12:56] {Threei} never could control DRYS for instance, never playing it
[12:56] {Threei} same for GOOG
[12:56] {Threei} very rarely BIDU
[12:56] {Threei} LULU was readable for a while then stopped
[12:56] {dino} frpt out flat
[12:57] {Threei} RIMM is great player these days, I am close to 80% on it
[12:57] {Threei} AAPL, AMZN same thing - sometimes can get a read on them, more often not
[12:57] {bruce} k
[12:58] {Threei} when there are no easy momo stocks, I just surf over all the usual suspects
[12:58] {Threei} if one of them shows good read, I founf my bread and butter for the time being
[12:59] {dino} cmi out .73-.02
[13:00] {Threei} ok guys, thank you
[13:00] {Threei} have a great evcening
[13:00] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:00] {bruce} wtg dino
[13:00] {bruce} thought you would get stopped
[13:00] {dino} had .50, but f'ck'd up
[13:00] {dino} down day, hope i didn't hurt anyone
[13:01] {bruce} it dropped below .5
[13:01] {Threei} you hurt my faith in humanity dino
[13:01] {bruce} worked ok to hold and get out at be
[13:01] {dino} i was in at .75, see above
[13:01] {bruce} yes
[13:01] {bruce} good exit
[13:02] {dino} 70$+ stocks i use about .50 on the stops
[13:02] {bruce} k
[13:02] {bruce} was thinking same
[13:02] {bruce} still pretty tight for those moves
[13:02] {bruce} they go tht fqar in 1 min candle
[13:03] {bruce} 6 down days in row for me
[13:03] {bruce} see you guys in am
[13:03] {dino} later bruce
[13:03] {bruce} yep
Thursday, November 15, 2007
Wednesday, November 14, 2007
November 14, 2007
Session Start: Wed Nov 14 00:00:01 2007
Session Time: Wed Nov 14 00:00:01 2007
Session Start: Wed Nov 14 10:48:49 2007
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[10:49] {Threei} ALTI
[10:49] {Threei} ANNOUNCES $7M IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ECO-FRIENDLY BATTERY AND SENSOR PROGRAMS
[10:49] {Threei} - The first project, which is to receive $5M, is directed toward a continuing project with the U.S. Navy involving the production of a 2.5-megawatt stationary power supply.
[10:49] {Threei} - The $2M in funding will allow Altairnano to increase the sensit
[10:49] {esemde} CLWR....shot up instantly
[10:51] {Threei} earlier today,
[10:51] {Threei} [CLWR] Clearwire WSJ looks at company's WiMax strategy
[10:51] {Threei} - Article notes the company may have other options
[10:51] {Threei} - Article notes Intel, Google and Comcast as possible jv partners
[10:51] {Threei} don't see anything fresh
[10:51] {Threei} if I remember correct, CLWR has to do with Craig McCaw ese... owner of the island against my crabbing doc :)
[10:51] {Threei} dock
[10:52] {dino} you are right
[10:52] {esemde} Are you serious........
[10:52] {Threei} yup, james Island is his
[10:52] {esemde} how did you find that out
[10:52] {Threei} it's open information
[10:53] {Threei} CSIQ
[10:53] {esemde} now theres some information that causes you to go...Hmmmmmmm......
[10:53] {Threei} .15 half lot long
[10:53] {esemde} have you got an entry for CSIQ....been watching it
[10:53] {Threei} a bit scary stock
[10:55] {esemde} 14.15 per chance
[10:55] {dino} out wynn .33, +.78
[10:55] {esemde} volume ios up 500% should make a go at the highs
[10:56] {Threei} volatility is a bit bigger on it than I'd like
[10:56] {bruce} v nice dino
[10:57] {bruce} looked to me like it still wanted to go short on that l entry
[10:57] {Threei} McCaw does owns James Island, a couple of kilometers off Central Saanich on South Vancouver Island. He bought the island in 1994 for $19 million.
[10:57] {Threei} http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/techtracks/archives/2006/07/mccaws_bc_getaway_1.html
[10:59] {esemde} HUH.... how bout that...
[10:59] {Threei} and he will sell to you if you are up to it ese:
[10:59] {Threei} http://www.forbes.com/2001/04/20/0420movers.html
[11:00] {esemde} fell bad that he has so much money....must be a burden for him
[11:00] {dino} got lucky bruce
[11:00] {dino} fast fall
[11:00] {Chaeron} is this the Real Estate Channel or are we going to stick with stocks??? :) GM all
[11:00] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:01] {Threei} we are just looking to reinvest out URRE winnings
[11:01] {Chaeron} I thought you liked Kona... :)
[11:01] {esemde} just taking about the island your going to buy chaeron...
[11:02] {Chaeron} only if I have your money Ese :)
[11:02] {esemde} just a facade....just a facade....
[11:02] {Threei} Kona I love... but I will need to scalp RIMM dfozen more times
[11:02] {Chaeron} Ese - lol
[11:03] {bruce} morningchaeron
[11:04] {bruce} you played it perfect dino
[11:04] {Chaeron} hey Bruce good to see you... let's kick some market tail today guys
[11:05] {bruce} have feeling wynn will test 131 area
[11:06] {bruce} lol
[11:06] {bruce} workin on not getting own butt kicked to hard or often chaeron
[11:07] {dino} risky, sm l tbsi .20
[11:07] {dino} sdtop .72
[11:10] {bruce} l tbsi 46 evfen
[11:12] {dino} stopped .81, -.39
[08:12] {bruce} stopped .71
[08:16] {dino} rinsed us
[08:17] {bruce} jinxed you dino
[08:17] {bruce} sorry
[08:18] {bruce} looks like reverse just 6 c under stop
[08:18] {dino} l hl wynn .03
[08:19] {dino} stop .48
[08:19] {dino} anything can happen bruce, not your fault
[08:20] {esemde} ROMAN.... what do you think of ALTI
[08:21] {bruce} thanks dino
[08:21] {bruce} hope wynn works for you
[08:21] {Threei} NVDA, watching for pullback entry for scalp
[08:21] {bruce} don't like it l yet
[08:21] {Threei} closer to .60
[08:21] {dino} tbsi follows drys, fyi
[08:21] {Threei} seems to follow NQ with little delay
[08:23] {Threei} in
[08:23] {Threei} stop .49
[08:24] {bruce} l nvda
[08:24] {Threei} just a scalp most likely
[08:26] {bruce} you thinking .70 exit if we get it vad?
[08:26] {Threei} ALTI honestly trying
[08:27] {Threei} I guess
[08:27] {esemde} thats what i was thinkin......
[08:28] {Threei} NQ needs to go back to 2075 and over to make NVDA work
[08:29] {bruce} so kick nq w those army boots
[08:30] {Threei} yes sir
[08:31] {bruce} no magoo - no trout last couple days
[08:33] {dino} out wynn .48, +.45
[08:33] {Threei} wtg
[08:33] {dino} ahh
[08:34] {dino} too soon
[08:36] {bruce} stopped nvda
[08:37] {Threei} CTEL news?
[08:38] {cosmo} City Telecom Launches Second Wave Marketing Campaign Featuring Alexander Graham BELL & Kung-Fu-Fighting Ants
[08:38] {cosmo} PR Newswire (Wed 12:05am)
[08:39] {Threei} lol
[08:39] {cosmo} really!
[08:39] {dino} ccix stopped -0.25
[08:41] {Threei} XING .35 long if stays above .20
[08:41] {Threei} if triggers from here, stop .24
[08:42] {dino} hl l tbsi .33
[08:42] {dino} stop .80
[08:44] {dino} l hl wynn .90
[08:44] {dino} stop .46
[08:50] {Threei} RIMM aiming for 115
[08:50] {dino} out wynn .60, +.70
[08:51] {dino} out tbsi .93, +.60
[08:51] {Threei} nice series
[08:51] {dino} easy button smack
[08:51] {dino} :)
[08:52] {Threei} sheesh CTEL
[08:53] {Threei} Alexander Graham Bell eh
[08:53] {cosmo} he's an icon
[08:53] {cosmo} thry help
[08:53] {Threei} and obviusly martial art master
[08:54] {cosmo} well, you could say all these wars are his fault, i guess
[08:56] {Threei} RIMM long here
[08:56] {Threei} smaaal shares
[08:56] {Threei} as close to 114 as possible
[08:56] {Threei} if loses it wait for nQ to reverse
[08:56] {Threei} in
[09:00] {Threei} too early
[09:02] {esemde} CSIQ knifing through big blocks of shares
[09:02] {Threei} second try
[09:03] {bruce} same vad
[09:04] {Threei} wwow CSIQ
[09:04] {Threei} feel free to take profit weho got it
[09:05] {bruce} out rimm + 47 after .32 stop
[09:06] {Threei} good job
[09:06] {bruce} lol
[09:06] {bruce} thanks
[09:06] {bruce} nervoys playing that puppy
[09:07] {bruce} wow - back to black
[09:07] {bruce} hi judi - ou new to RT?
[09:09] {bruce} what do we call those trades vad - pullbacks?
[09:09] {bruce} propulsion plays?
[09:09] {Threei} pullback
[09:09] {bruce} k
[09:13] {esemde} ladies and gentlemen....i'm gonna leave you to it...have a great day
[09:13] {Threei} take care ese
[09:13] {esemde} see ya Vad.....
[09:13] {dino} l8r ese
[09:15] {dino} rimm l ;.80
[09:15] {bruce} bye ese
[09:16] {bruce} stop .45 or so dino?
[09:16] {dino} y'
[09:20] {bruce} rimm is showing classic volume patern you describe vad
[09:20] {bruce} dropping on declines
[09:20] {bruce} and rising on price rise
[09:25] {dino} out rimm .20, +.40
[09:25] {bruce} nice dino
[09:25] {bruce} I should have used bigger stop on my first entry
[09:25] {dino} bruce stop it itm, so you get something, if you sare still long
[09:25] {dino} ok
[09:26] {bruce} k see your pooint about bigger sops dino
[09:27] {bruce} would think way to go is to set hard stop - fairly wide - but we willing to exit trade before stop is hit if trade gives sign not likelyu to work using your style
[09:29] {dino} y, you get a feel after awhile, but also, when up .40, move stop so you lock in at least half of the .40, don't give it all back
[09:29] {bruce} yes - no point letting profits slip away
[09:29] {dino} give that man a prize
[09:29] {bruce} I like .40 trailing idea
[09:30] {dino} vads' $100 street theory
[09:30] {Threei} lol
[09:33] {bruce} break time
[09:33] {bruce} see you guys in a bit
[09:33] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:34] {bruce} keep that cat in line vad
[09:34] {Threei} jeez CSIQ
[09:37] {dino} mpel
[09:37] {Roman} MPEL spike
[09:37] {Roman} buy sell short
[09:47] {dino} bit of a pullback
[09:55] {dino} hl l dwsn .00
[10:01] {dino} out .31, +.31
[10:09] {admin} vad..guy ordered both mpp and scalping coures
[10:09] {admin} but I don't have any mpps
[10:10] {admin} oops
[10:10] {admin} sorry :)
[10:20] {Threei} ORCL
[10:20] {Threei} hmm... maybe worth a scalp off this selloff
[10:22] {Threei} .44 stop
[10:22] {dino} brb
[10:27] {dino} noec
[10:29] {Threei} out XING
[10:29] {dino} risky l hl .04, stop lod
[10:29] {Threei} +.20
[10:31] {hawkfan4} took xing too, thx vad
[10:31] {Threei} nice patience hawk
[10:31] {Threei} I thought everyone bailed like 5 years ago
[10:32] {hawkfan4} lol, the meds must be helping me
[10:32] {Threei} ah
[10:32] {Threei} glad to see I am not alone doing TUI
[10:32] {hawkfan4} :)
[10:34] {dino} gj
[10:37] {dino} noec stop to .24
[10:38] {dino} to .32
[10:39] {dino} out slippage, ave .28 +.24
[10:41] {dino} rinse job
[10:49] {bruce} wynn approaching lod again dino
[10:51] {dino} watching it, waiting way below
[10:51] {bruce} k
[10:57] {dino} hl l .41
[10:58] {dino} stop .97
[10:59] {Threei} RIMM short if loses 114
[10:59] {dino} stopped darn, -.44
[10:59] {dino} altho glad it did
[11:00] {Threei} out +.35
[11:01] {Threei} that was quick
[11:01] {bruce} congrats vad
[11:01] {dino} dwsn hl l .39
[11:07] {Threei} FRPT selloff
[11:09] {Chaeron} capit
[11:09] {Threei} JAVAD
[11:09] {Threei} CEO: SOLARIS DEAL FIRST OF MANY SUCH AGREEMENTS WITH DELL - WIRE CITES INTERVIEW
[11:09] {dino} missed it
[11:20] {Threei} CHINESE CENTRAL BANK OFFICIAL: CHINA IS VERY FIRM ON POLICY OF KEEPING THE US DOLLAR AS ITS MAIN RESERVE CURRENCY - WIRE HEADLINE- official is speaking in Washington
[11:21] {dino} indeed, as long as we don't let ours float
[11:21] {cosmo} it floats on oil
[11:22] {dino} lol
[11:24] {dino} uaua
[11:28] {Threei} EBAY EVACUATES ONE BUILDING AS BOMB SQUAD INVESTIGATES SUSPICIOUS PACKAGE - WIRE HEADLINE
[11:37] {Threei} UAUA lost its mind?
[11:37] {dino} merger talk
[11:37] {Threei} UNITED AND DELTA ARE IN TALKS ON A POSSIBLE COMBINATION - WIRE HEADLINE CITING SOURCES
[11:37] {Threei} - Talks include conditions that would keep United name and Chicago headquarters, want to get something done before a new administration gets in and so they get the clock ticking on federal regulatory approval - official
[11:37] {dino} w/delta
[11:38] {dino} but, yeah, it has lost its' mind
[11:38] {Threei} scalped 21 cent short
[11:38] {Threei} covered too quickly
[11:38] {Threei} but heck... :)
[11:39] {dino} could go anywhere
[11:39] {Threei} and in a hurry
[11:39] {cosmo} hmm...Delnited
[11:39] {dino} deltaU
[11:40] {cosmo} deltau co.
[11:40] {Threei} even JBLU moved 15 cents off that, lol
[11:41] {Threei} DALs move is much more modest
[11:41] {Threei} NYSE vs NASDAQ?
[11:46] {bruce} stopped drys reversal attempt
[11:46] {bruce} -88 c 50 c slippage
[11:47] {bruce} geesh
[11:47] {Threei} yikes
[11:49] {bruce} calling it a day guys
[11:49] {bruce} 5 losing days in row so far
[11:49] {Threei} bruce... you start most of them in black
[11:49] {Threei} and say you gotta stop for the day
[11:49] {Threei} then continue trading
[11:49] {bruce} varies
[11:50] {bruce} but bettr success in am
[11:50] {bruce} started red today
[11:52] {dino} hang in there bruce
[11:52] {bruce} trying dino
[11:54] {Threei} one thing is for sure bruce... stay the helkl away from killers like DRYS
[11:56] {bruce} my stop got executed at dead botom
[11:56] {bruce} tryng o learn dinos reversal palys
[11:57] {Threei} you can do it on less volatile and thin movers
[11:57] {bruce} undrstnad slippage can be bad at times
[11:57] {bruce} that was really outrageous
[11:57] {bruce} didn
[11:57] {bruce} t espect that
[11:58] {Threei} spread jumps to 30 cents and more
[11:58] {Threei} levels have 100 shares
[11:58] {bruce} yes - really nailed me
[11:58] {bruce} then recovered
[11:58] {bruce} damn
[11:58] {bruce} discouraged vad
[11:59] {bruce} keep trying but jut not making it
[11:59] {bruce} anyone
[11:59] {Threei} you are not doing what you intended to
[11:59] {bruce} see you all in am
[11:59] {Threei} no plan
[11:59] {Threei} jumping from one idea to another
[11:59] {Threei} it won't work
[12:00] {dino} keep it simple bruce. take care
[12:00] {dino} back in 10
[12:20] {dino} wynn wacked today
[12:21] {Threei} ALLI
[12:22] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:24] {dino} rimm l hl .50
[12:26] {Threei} wasn't LULU supposed to drop dead
[12:27] {dino} not working out -.35
[12:29] {dino} have to size down rimm
[12:33] {Threei} meanwhile XING nears high
[12:35] {Threei} RIMM is easier on a short side today
[12:35] {dino} yeah, strange
[12:36] {dino} lods
[12:37] {Threei} 13 trades on it today
[12:37] {Threei} 10/3
[12:40] {Threei} 7 short, 6 long
[12:40] {dino} gj
[12:41] {Threei} didn't fgind guts to short this drop
[12:42] {Threei} too bad
[12:42] {dino} rimm just got killed
[12:43] {dino} 3 bucks in about 5 minutes
[12:43] {dino} tempted to buy som for a swing
[12:43] {dino} still think 120 for friday
[12:49] {Threei} psycho market
[12:50] {dino} yeah
[12:51] {dino} \pretty much done for the day.
[12:51] {Threei} want one last scalp RIMM
[12:52] {dino} man falling fast
[12:52] {Threei} in .19 l
[12:53] {Threei} out .60
[12:53] {dino} sweet
[12:53] {dino} wow down 102 dow
[12:53] {dino} just lost 150 pts in 30 mins.
[12:54] {Threei} one of rare cases when I was able to post RIMM practically real time
[12:58] {dino} wynn l .05
[12:59] {dino} out .30, +.25
[13:01] {Threei} thank tyou all
[13:01] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrfow
[13:02] {dino} take care all, good day
[13:02] {dptl} have a good evening all
Session Time: Wed Nov 14 00:00:01 2007
Session Start: Wed Nov 14 10:48:49 2007
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[10:49] {Threei} ALTI
[10:49] {Threei} ANNOUNCES $7M IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ECO-FRIENDLY BATTERY AND SENSOR PROGRAMS
[10:49] {Threei} - The first project, which is to receive $5M, is directed toward a continuing project with the U.S. Navy involving the production of a 2.5-megawatt stationary power supply.
[10:49] {Threei} - The $2M in funding will allow Altairnano to increase the sensit
[10:49] {esemde} CLWR....shot up instantly
[10:51] {Threei} earlier today,
[10:51] {Threei} [CLWR] Clearwire WSJ looks at company's WiMax strategy
[10:51] {Threei} - Article notes the company may have other options
[10:51] {Threei} - Article notes Intel, Google and Comcast as possible jv partners
[10:51] {Threei} don't see anything fresh
[10:51] {Threei} if I remember correct, CLWR has to do with Craig McCaw ese... owner of the island against my crabbing doc :)
[10:51] {Threei} dock
[10:52] {dino} you are right
[10:52] {esemde} Are you serious........
[10:52] {Threei} yup, james Island is his
[10:52] {esemde} how did you find that out
[10:52] {Threei} it's open information
[10:53] {Threei} CSIQ
[10:53] {esemde} now theres some information that causes you to go...Hmmmmmmm......
[10:53] {Threei} .15 half lot long
[10:53] {esemde} have you got an entry for CSIQ....been watching it
[10:53] {Threei} a bit scary stock
[10:55] {esemde} 14.15 per chance
[10:55] {dino} out wynn .33, +.78
[10:55] {esemde} volume ios up 500% should make a go at the highs
[10:56] {Threei} volatility is a bit bigger on it than I'd like
[10:56] {bruce} v nice dino
[10:57] {bruce} looked to me like it still wanted to go short on that l entry
[10:57] {Threei} McCaw does owns James Island, a couple of kilometers off Central Saanich on South Vancouver Island. He bought the island in 1994 for $19 million.
[10:57] {Threei} http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/techtracks/archives/2006/07/mccaws_bc_getaway_1.html
[10:59] {esemde} HUH.... how bout that...
[10:59] {Threei} and he will sell to you if you are up to it ese:
[10:59] {Threei} http://www.forbes.com/2001/04/20/0420movers.html
[11:00] {esemde} fell bad that he has so much money....must be a burden for him
[11:00] {dino} got lucky bruce
[11:00] {dino} fast fall
[11:00] {Chaeron} is this the Real Estate Channel or are we going to stick with stocks??? :) GM all
[11:00] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:01] {Threei} we are just looking to reinvest out URRE winnings
[11:01] {Chaeron} I thought you liked Kona... :)
[11:01] {esemde} just taking about the island your going to buy chaeron...
[11:02] {Chaeron} only if I have your money Ese :)
[11:02] {esemde} just a facade....just a facade....
[11:02] {Threei} Kona I love... but I will need to scalp RIMM dfozen more times
[11:02] {Chaeron} Ese - lol
[11:03] {bruce} morningchaeron
[11:04] {bruce} you played it perfect dino
[11:04] {Chaeron} hey Bruce good to see you... let's kick some market tail today guys
[11:05] {bruce} have feeling wynn will test 131 area
[11:06] {bruce} lol
[11:06] {bruce} workin on not getting own butt kicked to hard or often chaeron
[11:07] {dino} risky, sm l tbsi .20
[11:07] {dino} sdtop .72
[11:10] {bruce} l tbsi 46 evfen
[11:12] {dino} stopped .81, -.39
[08:12] {bruce} stopped .71
[08:16] {dino} rinsed us
[08:17] {bruce} jinxed you dino
[08:17] {bruce} sorry
[08:18] {bruce} looks like reverse just 6 c under stop
[08:18] {dino} l hl wynn .03
[08:19] {dino} stop .48
[08:19] {dino} anything can happen bruce, not your fault
[08:20] {esemde} ROMAN.... what do you think of ALTI
[08:21] {bruce} thanks dino
[08:21] {bruce} hope wynn works for you
[08:21] {Threei} NVDA, watching for pullback entry for scalp
[08:21] {bruce} don't like it l yet
[08:21] {Threei} closer to .60
[08:21] {dino} tbsi follows drys, fyi
[08:21] {Threei} seems to follow NQ with little delay
[08:23] {Threei} in
[08:23] {Threei} stop .49
[08:24] {bruce} l nvda
[08:24] {Threei} just a scalp most likely
[08:26] {bruce} you thinking .70 exit if we get it vad?
[08:26] {Threei} ALTI honestly trying
[08:27] {Threei} I guess
[08:27] {esemde} thats what i was thinkin......
[08:28] {Threei} NQ needs to go back to 2075 and over to make NVDA work
[08:29] {bruce} so kick nq w those army boots
[08:30] {Threei} yes sir
[08:31] {bruce} no magoo - no trout last couple days
[08:33] {dino} out wynn .48, +.45
[08:33] {Threei} wtg
[08:33] {dino} ahh
[08:34] {dino} too soon
[08:36] {bruce} stopped nvda
[08:37] {Threei} CTEL news?
[08:38] {cosmo} City Telecom Launches Second Wave Marketing Campaign Featuring Alexander Graham BELL & Kung-Fu-Fighting Ants
[08:38] {cosmo} PR Newswire (Wed 12:05am)
[08:39] {Threei} lol
[08:39] {cosmo} really!
[08:39] {dino} ccix stopped -0.25
[08:41] {Threei} XING .35 long if stays above .20
[08:41] {Threei} if triggers from here, stop .24
[08:42] {dino} hl l tbsi .33
[08:42] {dino} stop .80
[08:44] {dino} l hl wynn .90
[08:44] {dino} stop .46
[08:50] {Threei} RIMM aiming for 115
[08:50] {dino} out wynn .60, +.70
[08:51] {dino} out tbsi .93, +.60
[08:51] {Threei} nice series
[08:51] {dino} easy button smack
[08:51] {dino} :)
[08:52] {Threei} sheesh CTEL
[08:53] {Threei} Alexander Graham Bell eh
[08:53] {cosmo} he's an icon
[08:53] {cosmo} thry help
[08:53] {Threei} and obviusly martial art master
[08:54] {cosmo} well, you could say all these wars are his fault, i guess
[08:56] {Threei} RIMM long here
[08:56] {Threei} smaaal shares
[08:56] {Threei} as close to 114 as possible
[08:56] {Threei} if loses it wait for nQ to reverse
[08:56] {Threei} in
[09:00] {Threei} too early
[09:02] {esemde} CSIQ knifing through big blocks of shares
[09:02] {Threei} second try
[09:03] {bruce} same vad
[09:04] {Threei} wwow CSIQ
[09:04] {Threei} feel free to take profit weho got it
[09:05] {bruce} out rimm + 47 after .32 stop
[09:06] {Threei} good job
[09:06] {bruce} lol
[09:06] {bruce} thanks
[09:06] {bruce} nervoys playing that puppy
[09:07] {bruce} wow - back to black
[09:07] {bruce} hi judi - ou new to RT?
[09:09] {bruce} what do we call those trades vad - pullbacks?
[09:09] {bruce} propulsion plays?
[09:09] {Threei} pullback
[09:09] {bruce} k
[09:13] {esemde} ladies and gentlemen....i'm gonna leave you to it...have a great day
[09:13] {Threei} take care ese
[09:13] {esemde} see ya Vad.....
[09:13] {dino} l8r ese
[09:15] {dino} rimm l ;.80
[09:15] {bruce} bye ese
[09:16] {bruce} stop .45 or so dino?
[09:16] {dino} y'
[09:20] {bruce} rimm is showing classic volume patern you describe vad
[09:20] {bruce} dropping on declines
[09:20] {bruce} and rising on price rise
[09:25] {dino} out rimm .20, +.40
[09:25] {bruce} nice dino
[09:25] {bruce} I should have used bigger stop on my first entry
[09:25] {dino} bruce stop it itm, so you get something, if you sare still long
[09:25] {dino} ok
[09:26] {bruce} k see your pooint about bigger sops dino
[09:27] {bruce} would think way to go is to set hard stop - fairly wide - but we willing to exit trade before stop is hit if trade gives sign not likelyu to work using your style
[09:29] {dino} y, you get a feel after awhile, but also, when up .40, move stop so you lock in at least half of the .40, don't give it all back
[09:29] {bruce} yes - no point letting profits slip away
[09:29] {dino} give that man a prize
[09:29] {bruce} I like .40 trailing idea
[09:30] {dino} vads' $100 street theory
[09:30] {Threei} lol
[09:33] {bruce} break time
[09:33] {bruce} see you guys in a bit
[09:33] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:34] {bruce} keep that cat in line vad
[09:34] {Threei} jeez CSIQ
[09:37] {dino} mpel
[09:37] {Roman} MPEL spike
[09:37] {Roman} buy sell short
[09:47] {dino} bit of a pullback
[09:55] {dino} hl l dwsn .00
[10:01] {dino} out .31, +.31
[10:09] {admin} vad..guy ordered both mpp and scalping coures
[10:09] {admin} but I don't have any mpps
[10:10] {admin} oops
[10:10] {admin} sorry :)
[10:20] {Threei} ORCL
[10:20] {Threei} hmm... maybe worth a scalp off this selloff
[10:22] {Threei} .44 stop
[10:22] {dino} brb
[10:27] {dino} noec
[10:29] {Threei} out XING
[10:29] {dino} risky l hl .04, stop lod
[10:29] {Threei} +.20
[10:31] {hawkfan4} took xing too, thx vad
[10:31] {Threei} nice patience hawk
[10:31] {Threei} I thought everyone bailed like 5 years ago
[10:32] {hawkfan4} lol, the meds must be helping me
[10:32] {Threei} ah
[10:32] {Threei} glad to see I am not alone doing TUI
[10:32] {hawkfan4} :)
[10:34] {dino} gj
[10:37] {dino} noec stop to .24
[10:38] {dino} to .32
[10:39] {dino} out slippage, ave .28 +.24
[10:41] {dino} rinse job
[10:49] {bruce} wynn approaching lod again dino
[10:51] {dino} watching it, waiting way below
[10:51] {bruce} k
[10:57] {dino} hl l .41
[10:58] {dino} stop .97
[10:59] {Threei} RIMM short if loses 114
[10:59] {dino} stopped darn, -.44
[10:59] {dino} altho glad it did
[11:00] {Threei} out +.35
[11:01] {Threei} that was quick
[11:01] {bruce} congrats vad
[11:01] {dino} dwsn hl l .39
[11:07] {Threei} FRPT selloff
[11:09] {Chaeron} capit
[11:09] {Threei} JAVAD
[11:09] {Threei} CEO: SOLARIS DEAL FIRST OF MANY SUCH AGREEMENTS WITH DELL - WIRE CITES INTERVIEW
[11:09] {dino} missed it
[11:20] {Threei} CHINESE CENTRAL BANK OFFICIAL: CHINA IS VERY FIRM ON POLICY OF KEEPING THE US DOLLAR AS ITS MAIN RESERVE CURRENCY - WIRE HEADLINE- official is speaking in Washington
[11:21] {dino} indeed, as long as we don't let ours float
[11:21] {cosmo} it floats on oil
[11:22] {dino} lol
[11:24] {dino} uaua
[11:28] {Threei} EBAY EVACUATES ONE BUILDING AS BOMB SQUAD INVESTIGATES SUSPICIOUS PACKAGE - WIRE HEADLINE
[11:37] {Threei} UAUA lost its mind?
[11:37] {dino} merger talk
[11:37] {Threei} UNITED AND DELTA ARE IN TALKS ON A POSSIBLE COMBINATION - WIRE HEADLINE CITING SOURCES
[11:37] {Threei} - Talks include conditions that would keep United name and Chicago headquarters, want to get something done before a new administration gets in and so they get the clock ticking on federal regulatory approval - official
[11:37] {dino} w/delta
[11:38] {dino} but, yeah, it has lost its' mind
[11:38] {Threei} scalped 21 cent short
[11:38] {Threei} covered too quickly
[11:38] {Threei} but heck... :)
[11:39] {dino} could go anywhere
[11:39] {Threei} and in a hurry
[11:39] {cosmo} hmm...Delnited
[11:39] {dino} deltaU
[11:40] {cosmo} deltau co.
[11:40] {Threei} even JBLU moved 15 cents off that, lol
[11:41] {Threei} DALs move is much more modest
[11:41] {Threei} NYSE vs NASDAQ?
[11:46] {bruce} stopped drys reversal attempt
[11:46] {bruce} -88 c 50 c slippage
[11:47] {bruce} geesh
[11:47] {Threei} yikes
[11:49] {bruce} calling it a day guys
[11:49] {bruce} 5 losing days in row so far
[11:49] {Threei} bruce... you start most of them in black
[11:49] {Threei} and say you gotta stop for the day
[11:49] {Threei} then continue trading
[11:49] {bruce} varies
[11:50] {bruce} but bettr success in am
[11:50] {bruce} started red today
[11:52] {dino} hang in there bruce
[11:52] {bruce} trying dino
[11:54] {Threei} one thing is for sure bruce... stay the helkl away from killers like DRYS
[11:56] {bruce} my stop got executed at dead botom
[11:56] {bruce} tryng o learn dinos reversal palys
[11:57] {Threei} you can do it on less volatile and thin movers
[11:57] {bruce} undrstnad slippage can be bad at times
[11:57] {bruce} that was really outrageous
[11:57] {bruce} didn
[11:57] {bruce} t espect that
[11:58] {Threei} spread jumps to 30 cents and more
[11:58] {Threei} levels have 100 shares
[11:58] {bruce} yes - really nailed me
[11:58] {bruce} then recovered
[11:58] {bruce} damn
[11:58] {bruce} discouraged vad
[11:59] {bruce} keep trying but jut not making it
[11:59] {bruce} anyone
[11:59] {Threei} you are not doing what you intended to
[11:59] {bruce} see you all in am
[11:59] {Threei} no plan
[11:59] {Threei} jumping from one idea to another
[11:59] {Threei} it won't work
[12:00] {dino} keep it simple bruce. take care
[12:00] {dino} back in 10
[12:20] {dino} wynn wacked today
[12:21] {Threei} ALLI
[12:22] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:24] {dino} rimm l hl .50
[12:26] {Threei} wasn't LULU supposed to drop dead
[12:27] {dino} not working out -.35
[12:29] {dino} have to size down rimm
[12:33] {Threei} meanwhile XING nears high
[12:35] {Threei} RIMM is easier on a short side today
[12:35] {dino} yeah, strange
[12:36] {dino} lods
[12:37] {Threei} 13 trades on it today
[12:37] {Threei} 10/3
[12:40] {Threei} 7 short, 6 long
[12:40] {dino} gj
[12:41] {Threei} didn't fgind guts to short this drop
[12:42] {Threei} too bad
[12:42] {dino} rimm just got killed
[12:43] {dino} 3 bucks in about 5 minutes
[12:43] {dino} tempted to buy som for a swing
[12:43] {dino} still think 120 for friday
[12:49] {Threei} psycho market
[12:50] {dino} yeah
[12:51] {dino} \pretty much done for the day.
[12:51] {Threei} want one last scalp RIMM
[12:52] {dino} man falling fast
[12:52] {Threei} in .19 l
[12:53] {Threei} out .60
[12:53] {dino} sweet
[12:53] {dino} wow down 102 dow
[12:53] {dino} just lost 150 pts in 30 mins.
[12:54] {Threei} one of rare cases when I was able to post RIMM practically real time
[12:58] {dino} wynn l .05
[12:59] {dino} out .30, +.25
[13:01] {Threei} thank tyou all
[13:01] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrfow
[13:02] {dino} take care all, good day
[13:02] {dptl} have a good evening all
Tuesday, November 13, 2007
November 13, 2007
Session Start: Tue Nov 13 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Tue Nov 13 00:00:00 2007
[05:06] {Threei} DIVX
[05:06] {Threei} TECHNOLOGY TO BE ADDED TO PLAYSTATION 3- To date, over 100 million DivX Certified products have been shipped into the market, and it is anticipated PS3 will significantly expand that number. {SNE}
[05:24] {bruce} morning rt
[05:25] {Threei} morning bruce
[05:25] {bruce} vadster
[05:26] {bruce} more must have games for kids
[05:26] {bruce} that'll be sure winner
[05:29] {Threei} I guess we know now why DIVX continued climbing last few days
[05:39] {bruce} lol
[05:39] {bruce} setting up my "if I were smarter chart this am vad
[05:42] {Threei} just don't tell me I need to re-read that book please
[05:43] {Threei} I siccessfully forget everything I wrote in 5 min after finishing it... very convinient
[05:43] {bruce} lol
[05:43] {bruce} my first entry
[05:43] {bruce} If I were smarter I'd stop trading"
[05:43] {Threei} I'll have to disagree
[05:44] {bruce} lol
[05:44] {bruce} not making that entry
[05:44] {Threei} If I were smarter I'd stop losing is my version :)
[05:44] {Threei} on serious note, do you see the usefulness of what you read?
[05:44] {bruce} going to set up trade log to for individual trades
[05:44] {bruce} already do the daily results type tracking
[05:45] {bruce} its a good summary of key points vad
[05:45] {Threei} oh, ity's more than summary
[05:46] {bruce} might be if I can figure out which trades work and which don't better I can improve results
[05:46] {Threei} it's the logic behind building your trading approach which allows you to align all the elements of it
[05:46] {bruce} I could really realtae to bo yoder
[05:47] {bruce} death by a thousand cuts
[05:47] {bruce} but hat only happened to him for a month
[05:47] {bruce} so far this month- I have exactly 20 wins
[05:48] {bruce} 20 losses
[05:48] {bruce} \and they are within 50 c of each other on average
[05:48] {Threei} how doesa it relate to last month?
[05:48] {bruce} not exactly winning formula\
[05:48] {Threei} is it improvement or not?
[05:48] {bruce} no change - those are typical vad
[05:49] {bruce} with small variation
[05:49] {bruce} win/ loss close together
[05:49] {Threei} you mean last month had the same ratio?
[05:49] {Threei} then no changes were incorporated, and you continue doing same thing
[05:49] {Threei} which hasn't proved to be successful
[05:50] {Threei} but you have all the recipes for analisys within those results
[05:51] {Threei} can you pipoint the difference between winners and losers?
[05:51] {Threei} what kind of trades were more of a winners and what more of losers?
[05:52] {bruce} win lose is worse than last month
[05:52] {Threei} nail it, and you know what to expand on and what to cut on
[05:52] {bruce} last month 101 wins and 84 losses
[05:52] {bruce} but lost overall\
[05:52] {Threei} bruce... without those analysis you just roll a dice
[05:52] {bruce} took a min to calculate cause I track weekly
[05:53] {Threei} with such win/loss ratio I would sure have had a profitable month
[05:53] {bruce} I do a lot of diferent kinds of trades
[05:54] {Threei} and?
[05:54] {Threei} among those some are prone to work better than others
[05:55] {Threei} you need to start weeding out process
[05:57] {bruce} I don't have data on diferent trades types vad
[05:58] {bruce} will start to collect
[05:58] {bruce} for example
[05:58] {bruce} a dino type reversal will obviousl y be very dif than a vad style break
[05:58] {bruce} going to strat tracking trades by type to see what works\
[05:59] {bruce} cant keep doing what I ma thats for sure
[05:59] {dptl} good morning all
[05:59] {Threei} dp :)
[05:59] {bruce} hey dp
[05:59] {bruce} morn
[06:01] {Threei} SAUDI ARAMCO CEO: WORLD WILL NOT HIT OIL OUTPUT TOP FOR LONG TIME - WIRE HEADLINE
[06:02] {cosmo} hmmm....output has topped, if i read the solars correctly
[06:03] {dino} gm all
[06:03] {Threei} dino :)
[06:04] {cosmo} ETFC pre mkt range = 3.85 - 4.10
[06:05] {bruce} hi dino- cosmo
[06:05] {bruce} hello ram
[06:05] {cosmo} bruce:)
[06:06] {dino} gm 3i, bruce, cos
[06:07] {cosmo} ESLR pre mkt high = 13 fwiw
[06:08] {cosmo} etfc
[06:09] {Threei} don't forget BIOS
[06:09] {cosmo} ETFC should hold 4 ... i think
[06:11] {Threei} Update: some of recent weakness in solar sector being attributed to rising concerns that Congress may move forward on the energy bill without including renewal of solar tax credit
[06:11] {Threei} - Reportedly, on Friday the Solar Energy Industries Association, a national trade group, stated that House Speaker Pelosi has decided to move forward on the bill without the tax credits.
[06:11] {Threei} - a Think Equity analyst said today that this chatter emerged on Thursday and may explain some of the turnabout in prices of solar stocks.
[06:16] {Threei} UPDATE: BMO ANALYST SAYS E*TRADE BANKRUPTCY IS 'HIGHLY UNLIKELY.'- analyst says the company would have to experience massive withdrawals for it to have major issues. Notes deposits have grown for the last 13 months consecutively.
[06:21] {Threei} be back in 5
[06:26] {Threei} BIOS ready to break
[06:29] {esemde} GM Raven bruce cos dino dp hawk jmb ram
[06:30] {Threei} ese :)
[06:30] {bruce} hi ese
[06:31] {dino} gm ese
[06:31] {Raven} hi ese
[06:32] {Roman} ESLR
[06:33] {Roman} watching for a bounce today
[06:34] {cosmo} ETFC tests 4
[06:34] {Threei} BIOS 9.65 long if stays above 9.50
[06:35] {dino} guess we missed bidu
[06:36] {bruce} in bios .64
[06:36] {bruce} stop to .49
[06:37] {dino} egle l .39 hl
[06:39] {dino} stop is .98
[06:39] {Roman} SOHU long small
[06:42] {Threei} MLNM
[06:42] {Threei} 14 break long
[06:42] {Threei} .84 stop
[06:48] {esemde} good morning patience....my internet was shut down ...hows your connections
[06:49] {bruce} move bios stop to .65?
[06:49] {Threei} .59
[06:51] {patience} not sure ese, just home from the royal jubilee. took the night shift looking after my dad.
[06:53] {Roman} out SOHU flat
[06:53] {bruce} mlnm stop to .90 now?
[06:53] {Threei} .89
[06:54] {esemde} patience dcc
[06:54] {dino} egle stop to b/e
[06:57] {Threei} MLNM stop to .94
[06:58] {dino} egle stop to .74
[06:58] {bruce} done - thanks vad
[06:58] {bruce} working to protect profits
[06:59] {Threei} on a verge of break yet doesn't... want to keep it as safe as possible
[06:59] {Threei} notice how it trades:
[06:59] {Threei} spikes to new high and immediately retreats
[06:59] {dino} lock 'em in bruce
[06:59] {dino} out egle .79, +.40
[06:59] {Threei} so to got out on a spike you need to have order in
[07:00] {Roman} SCON
[07:00] {Roman} counber
[07:00] {Roman} bouncer
[07:00] {Roman} yesterday had $5.70 prints
[07:00] {Threei} great... Roman has strong case of dislexia today
[07:00] {dino} today???
[07:00] {Threei} on top of my typing, that's just what we needed
[07:03] {Threei} TUES
[07:03] {cosmo} correct
[07:03] {Threei} lol
[07:03] {Threei} daily looks nice for a scalp
[07:03] {Threei} half lot .30
[07:04] {Threei} .19 stop
[07:04] {bruce} thnaks dino - workin on it
[07:05] {dino} :)
[07:11] {Roman} long SATC full size
[07:11] {Roman} 1.61
[07:12] {Threei} BIOS stop to .64
[07:16] {Threei} TUES stop to .23
[07:17] {esemde} I missed this but NSIT is making a nice move
[07:18] {Chaeron} gm all
[07:19] {dino} nsit s hl .39, stop .67
[07:19] * Threei kicks BIOS in the rear with heavy duty army boots
[07:20] {Raven} Chaeron ... finally :)
[07:20] {Threei} Chaeron :)
[07:20] {bruce} mlnm stopped
[07:25] {dino} itri
[07:27] {bruce} bios is trading on appointment
[07:28] {bruce} send note dentist with drill is coming vad
[07:28] {Threei} lol
[07:28] {Threei} like pulling a tooth eh?
[07:29] {bruce} if fear of good doesn't work
[07:29] {bruce} fear of dentist will
[07:29] {Threei} {BIOS} when I trade at 10, the joke will be on you
[07:30] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: LOW CRUDE INVENTORIES ARE PUSHING UP THE PRICE OF OIL
[07:30] {Threei} really?
[07:31] {Threei} ALGERIAN ENERGY MINISTER: DO NOT EXPECT OUTPUT CHANGE AT THE DECEMBER OPEC MEETING
[07:31] {bruce} that cheap eddie talking?
[07:31] {Threei} XING?
[07:31] {dino} bidz
[07:33] {Threei} and here comes the crown:
[07:33] {Threei} QATARI OIL MINISTER: OPEC CAN NOT INCREASE SUPPLY, BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEMAND TO MEET IT
[07:34] {Threei} me so confused
[07:34] {bruce} thgats cause al gore doesn't drive his suv any more
[07:34] {dino} nsit bstop to .14
[07:34] {Threei} buyers say they have low inventory and big demand... suppliers say we won't supply more because tyou don't demand it...
[07:35] {cosmo} not since i had to sell the car
[07:35] {dino} stopped .14, +.24
[07:35] {dino} .25
[07:35] {Threei} bruce, you mean he hired a driver?
[07:36] {Threei} BIOS new high, qwhole cent higher than old high
[07:37] {Threei} TUES stop to .29
[07:40] {Threei} BIOS 1:1, believe it or not
[07:40] {Threei} half out for me, scalpers feel free to take profit
[07:42] {bruce} 1/2out bios
[07:42] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: US ECONOMY RESILIENCE TO HIGH OIL PRICES HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY
[07:43] {Threei} what is it, message to OPEC "we can take what you can dish out"?
[07:43] {bruce} stop moved to .74 on balance
[07:43] {Threei} .69 for me
[07:44] {bruce} k - maybe setting it too tight
[07:44] {Threei} not necessary
[07:44] {Threei} both are valid
[07:44] {bruce} als always had a driver vad
[07:44] {Threei} it's more of personal choice
[07:45] {bruce} k - I like to keep them prety tight
[07:45] {bruce} need to get bigger moves though
[07:46] {bruce} figured that out from your comments this am
[07:46] {Threei} don't rush to conclusions until you run the whole process of troublesahooting
[07:46] {Threei} it's not always that obvious
[07:47] {bruce} k
[07:47] {Threei} build youir next step when you are done with whole book, I have suspicion you start changing things as you go
[07:48] {bruce} me?
[07:48] {bruce} change things as I go?
[07:48] {Threei} 'If I were smarter" method is in psychology part, not in troubleshooting part
[07:48] {bruce} sheesh
[07:48] {bruce} ofcourse I do
[07:49] {bruce} just scanned for stuff to use right away
[07:49] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: US ECONOMY RESILIENCE TO HIGH OIL PRICES HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY - WIRE HEADLINE
[07:49] {Threei} - says too early to tell oil price's economic impact
[07:50] {dino} nafc hl s .39, stop .68
[07:53] {bruce} thanks dino
[07:54] {bruce} appreciate stop post with entry
[07:56] {dino} np, i'll try to remember
[07:57] {bruce} I would have set about .57
[07:57] {bruce} and thats probably not enough
[07:58] {dino} rinses w/kill you
[07:58] {bruce} iNED TO LEARN TO GET COMFORTABLE W WIDER STOPS W YOUR STYLE OF TRADES
[07:59] {bruce} oopp
[07:59] {bruce} sorry about caps
[07:59] {dino} i understand, problem w/my type is they get gappy
[07:59] {bruce} can see that
[07:59] {bruce} smaller shares
[07:59] {dino} yes
[07:59] {bruce} bigger stops
[08:00] {bruce} and big moves so wins justify risk
[08:01] {dino} i'll crack you up. a year ago my standard size was 1,000, since i changed to 500 and widened stop, i do much better
[08:02] {bruce} k
[08:02] {bruce} would imagine you had some pretty nasty drawdowns
[08:02] {dino} indeed, havard education i call it
[08:03] {dino} then i realized if i would stop being stupid, i could make some money
[08:04] {bruce} how did you realize larger stops were oing to work for you?
[08:05] {dino} reviewed my trades, lots more would've worked if i could've held on. so wider and smaller was the key. not to mention, much more relaxing way to trade
[08:06] {Threei} bruce... what dino descrobes is exactly the process of troubleshooting in the book you keep in hands
[08:06] {Threei} let me reiterate the idea of reading it thoroughly before you start apply changes
[08:07] {bruce} thanks dino
[08:07] {bruce} will do vad
[08:08] {dino} anytime, good luck
[08:13] {bruce} adjust nafc stop here dino?
[08:15] {dino} yes to b/e
[08:15] {bruce} k -that was my thought
[08:15] {bruce} we have 1 to 1 here
[08:15] {dino} or if scalping, book it
[08:16] {dino} if it gets to .00, bring stop to 1:1 and just see what happens
[08:17] {dino} to .15 stop now imo
[08:17] {dino} magoo says i'm stingy
[08:19] {dino} cov. ave .13, +.26, on that jump
[08:19] {dino} we'll key an eye on it
[08:19] {dino} brb
[08:21] {dino} rimm hod
[08:24] {Threei} remember my grim predictions for LDK?
[08:25] {Threei} have a look at it
[08:25] {Chaeron} messy
[08:28] {dino} wow
[08:30] {Roman} ESLR high
[08:32] {esemde} have a great rest of the day all.... see ya tomorrow
[08:33] {bruce} bye ses
[08:33] {bruce} ese
[08:33] {dino} cya ese
[08:33] {Threei} take care ese
[08:36] {dino} twgp spike
[08:38] {Threei} RIMM bounce candidate
[08:41] {dino} may have already missed rimm, pretty big move
[08:41] {Threei} under 109 would be nice if we get there
[08:41] {Threei} with its volatility there are plenty of bouncesa to scalp
[08:42] {dino} y
[08:44] {Threei} CLWR takeover rumors
[08:49] {bruce} rimm hit 109 vad
[08:50] {Threei} if grabbed RIMM under 109, take scalp here
[08:51] {bruce} Ididn't get it
[08:51] {bruce} no stop defiend
[08:51] {bruce} what would you have used vad?
[08:51] {bruce} prb need 50 c would think
[08:52] {Threei} it's different kind of play
[08:52] {Threei} following NQ rather than trading on its own merits
[08:53] {Threei} it hit 108.91, paused,
[08:53] {Threei} got back to 109, hesitated a little and broke it
[08:53] {Threei} that's the entry unless NQ drops hard
[08:53] {Threei} stop is NQ continuing down and ROMM making new low
[08:53] {Threei} RIMM
[08:53] {bruce} k
[08:54] {Threei} so in practicae it would look like this:
[08:54] {bruce} so using time and sales to judge momentum
[08:54] {Threei} NQ reverses, RIMM goes with it, fine,
[08:54] {bruce} and exit if it stalls while watching nq
[08:54] {Threei} NQ reverses RIMM makes new low, still holding,
[08:54] {Threei} since it's just its natuarl volatility
[08:54] {bruce} \k
[08:55] {Threei} and it's likely to bounce quickly if NQ shows strength
[08:55] {bruce} what do you call a play like that?
[08:55] {dino} chaos
[08:55] {Threei} playing the follower
[08:55] {dino} :)
[08:55] {Threei} lol
[08:55] {Threei} snake principle
[08:55] {Threei} watch where head goes to see where the tail is going to be
[08:56] {bruce} lol
[08:56] {bruce} think I will mostly avoid those plays for now
[08:56] {bruce} not much success with them
[08:57] {Threei} they can be very rewarding but they require lightening reflexes and good chunk of experience
[08:58] {bruce} they look inviting
[08:58] {bruce} quick movews
[08:58] {Threei} this is rather videogame kind of participation than normal technical trading
[08:58] {Threei} if you are good at Halo/Doom kind, shooting enemies left and right quickly...
[08:59] {bruce} yes - I know some people thaqt trade that way
[08:59] {bruce} big money
[08:59] {bruce} but takes lots of skill
[08:59] {Threei} big money usually doeas
[09:00] {Threei} (VZ) PRES CHAVEZ: PLANNING TO PROPOSE CHANGING METHOD FOR MEASURING OIL PRICES AT OPEC MEETING -WIRE HEADLINE
[09:00] {Threei} sigh
[09:03] {dino} jobs drop
[09:03] {dino} rvbd wakes up
[09:04] {bruce} bios back to hod
[09:05] {bruce} still a lay after that drop?
[09:05] {bruce} long play
[09:08] {Threei} not by me
[09:09] {bruce} k- just checking - didn't think so - figured pullback was too deeop to justify a long
[09:16] {bruce} thoughts on ldk?
[09:18] {Threei} damaged goods
[09:19] {bruce} lol k
[09:29] {bruce} taking a break
[09:29] {bruce} going to check out the pickle loaf
[09:30] {dino} lol
[09:30] {dino} chilli today
[09:33] {dino} ssrx blood
[09:41] {dino} ssrx hl l .82, stop .48
[09:44] -} *services* fdfd
[09:53] {dino} brb
[10:18] {Threei} IRAN GIVES IAEA PLANS TO MOLD URANIUM INTO WARHEADS - WIRE CITING ENVOYS- Iran fails to meet other IAEA requests on nuclear work
[10:22] {dino} just great
[10:23] {Chaeron} could be worse dino... I read it as they gave IKEA plans
[10:24] {dino} hmmm
[10:33] {Threei} slow day
[10:34] {dino} yes
[10:34] {dino} but profitable
[10:34] {Threei} yes, but nothing outstanding
[10:35] {Threei} I am spoiled be recent volatility I guess :)
[10:35] {Threei} be = by
[10:35] {dino} same, yesterday was very good
[10:45] {bruce} tiny profit for me today
[10:46] {bruce} think I'll just sit on hands though
[10:46] {bruce} nice change of trend from prior three
[10:52] {dino} crazy lately, reminds me of 1999-2000 w/these swings
[10:59] {Threei} OPEC SEC GENERAL: GROUP IS NOT HAPPY WITH HIGH PRICES, TO DISCUSS PRICES AND PRODUCTION AT DEC MEETING- reiterates belief there is plenty of oil in market
[11:00] {Threei} *OCT MONTHLY BUDGET STATEMENT: -$55.6 V -$59BE- prior reading was -$49.3B
[11:03] {dino} ssrx stop to .01
[11:05] {dino} out ssrx .00, +.18
[11:05] {dino} rinse
[11:18] {Threei} JCOM dino
[11:24] {Threei} NVDA short .56, .61 stop
[11:25] {dino} hmm
[11:26] {dino} egle l .89
[11:27] {dino} tbsi rockin'
[11:31] {dino} egle stop is .69 fwiw
[11:38] {bruce} wynn dino
[11:41] {dino} missed it
[11:42] {bruce} yup
[11:42] {bruce} could see it settinhg up- but I cant read tops
[11:44] {Threei} RIMM
[11:44] {dino} egle stop to .99 don't like it
[11:44] {Threei} long from here on fisrt sign of NQ reversal to upside
[11:45] {Threei} finger on a trigger
[11:46] {Threei} in
[11:46] {dino} asei drop
[11:47] {Threei} stop under .30
[11:48] {Threei} no speedy follow through, don't like it
[11:49] {Threei} out
[11:51] {Threei} nice shakeout
[11:52] {bruce} yes
[11:52] {bruce} tough play
[11:53] {dino} asei l hl .35
[11:53] {dino} stop .98
[11:54] {bruce} k thanks dino
[11:55] {dino} :)
[11:55] {dino} my entry sucked
[11:57] {bruce} i like nvda short here
[11:57] {dino} eclp
[11:58] {dino} nvda always gives me trouble
[11:59] {bruce} in .47 stop .59
[11:59] {bruce} will see if it workws
[12:00] {dino} egle stopped +.10
[12:00] {Threei} SEPT PENDING HOME SALES: +0.2% V -2.0%E
[12:01] {dino} eclp continues down
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {bruce} k
[12:04] {Threei} NQ +71
[12:04] {Threei} mama mia
[12:04] {Threei} as usual, this is the toughest kind of days to find a play
[12:04] {bruce} stopped nvda
[12:11] {dino} same here vad, the gap open and continue up are my toughest
[12:11] {Threei} yeah
[12:11] {Threei} and you know wnhat the most amazing thing is?
[12:11] {dino} chaos is moneymaker day
[12:11] {Threei} I make much more on big down days than I do on big up - yet most of plays are LONG
[12:12] {dino} same, cause i think capits on downs, euphoria on ups
[12:12] {dino} i'm pretty much a contrarian
[12:12] {Threei} remember I said yesterday, 11 trades on RIMM, 9 wins 2 stops?
[12:12] {dino} y
[12:12] {Threei} those 2 stops were both shorts
[12:12] {dino} lol
[12:12] {Threei} 9 wins were all longs
[12:12] {Threei} and that was big down day
[12:13] {dino} i was 3 for 4 on it, all long
[12:14] {Threei} whatever... I long as grew out of attempts to disect everything to every why... I accept things as they are and exploit them best I can even if I have no clue why they are what they are :)
[12:15] {Threei} there are enough academics to write tons of books explaining me why it's impossible to make money trading... I'll leave explanations to them
[12:16] {Threei} so far, no single losing day in Nov
[12:17] {dino} same, 2 down in oct
[12:18] {Threei} lemme look
[12:18] {dino} thats the key, no downs
[12:18] {Threei} you outdid me
[12:18] {Threei} 4 down days in Oct
[12:18] {Threei} but the worst of them is -180
[12:19] {dino} although, i am wrong, was down 85$ on nov 2
[12:19] {Threei} 3 others are less then 100 in minus
[12:19] {Threei} and I remember the -180 one - I started it with -700 thanks to my cat
[12:19] {dino} again, thats the key, took me awhile to realize a down cannot be bigger than an up
[12:19] {Threei} and spent a day digging out of a hole :)
[12:20] {bruce} geesh - so far 3 wins 4 loses this month
[12:21] {Threei} frikin thing stepped on a sound wire connecting main monitor with comouter and disconnected it,
[12:21] {Threei} I sent buy order for something evry volatile
[12:21] {Threei} no sound of order being filled,
[12:21] {Threei} I think I miss it,
[12:21] {Threei} switch to other stocks,
[12:22] {dino} i actually have alot of $200-400 days but not many down days, thats the difference
[12:22] {Threei} when I notice my P/L changes even though it shouldn't when I have no position, I am down 700 bucks lol
[12:22] {bruce} that was tough vad - down by accident
[12:22] {Threei} s**t happens
[12:24] {Threei} XMSR
[12:24] {Threei} SHAREHOLDERS APPROVE SIRI MERGER
[12:24] {Threei} I just shrug and start working on it, bruce :)
[12:24] {Threei} it is what it is
[12:26] {dino} exactly
[12:27] {dino} realistically, nothing matters its how you react
[12:27] {dino} asei stop to .65
[12:27] {Threei} yeah... the day it's proven that crying helps profiting from market I will learn to cry
[12:27] {dino} call me that day
[12:28] {Threei} if I may... one book I regard highly on this
[12:29] {Threei} 7 habits of the most effective people
[12:29] {dino} stopped asei +.30
[12:29] {Threei} there are things fully and totally out of our control
[12:29] {dino} 6/6 but all small hits, although just shy of daily
[12:29] {Threei} hurricanes... earthquakes... market moves
[12:30] {Threei} learn to form right mental attitude to deal with those
[12:30] {Threei} There are things that are in our immediate control
[12:30] {Threei} learn to manage them
[12:31] {Threei} and there are things that can be somewhat controlled through intermediary
[12:31] {Threei} by influencing other people
[12:31] {Threei} learn what factors matter and how to manage them
[12:32] {Threei} I hope esteemed Cohen will forgive me for quick and dirty overview
[12:32] {dino} get "millionaire traders", hits close to home on a couple of those traders
[12:32] {Threei} I can't read trading books anymore dino
[12:33] {dino} i understand, screws you up
[12:33] {Threei} mental block I guess, for the last 3 years at least
[12:33] {Threei} probably more
[12:33] {dino} first half of way of the turtles was pretty good too
[12:34] {Threei} Stephen King is fine with me
[12:35] {dino} lol
[12:35] {dino} best part of "trading in the zone" for me was; "anything can happen"
[12:35] {Threei} that one is very good
[12:36] {Threei} Zen in the market is very short and good
[12:37] {dino} rimm hod
[12:41] {Threei} scalped of 112
[12:42] {dino} was thinking of it, but chickened out
[12:45] {Threei} +81 NQ
[12:46] {Threei} a bit unreal
[12:48] {Threei} this second time I chickened out
[12:48] {Threei} so you must have gottent it
[12:49] {dino} no. pretty much done for the day
[12:49] {dino} gj tho
[12:50] {dino} will look at it tomorrow
[12:50] {dino} 10 pts up, may pull back
[12:51] {bruce} calling it a day folks
[12:51] {bruce} take care all
[12:51] {bruce} se you in am
[12:51] {Threei} take care bruce
[12:52] {Threei} thankl you all, have a good evening
[12:52] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[12:53] {dino} me too, thanks all
Session Time: Tue Nov 13 00:00:00 2007
[05:06] {Threei} DIVX
[05:06] {Threei} TECHNOLOGY TO BE ADDED TO PLAYSTATION 3- To date, over 100 million DivX Certified products have been shipped into the market, and it is anticipated PS3 will significantly expand that number. {SNE}
[05:24] {bruce} morning rt
[05:25] {Threei} morning bruce
[05:25] {bruce} vadster
[05:26] {bruce} more must have games for kids
[05:26] {bruce} that'll be sure winner
[05:29] {Threei} I guess we know now why DIVX continued climbing last few days
[05:39] {bruce} lol
[05:39] {bruce} setting up my "if I were smarter chart this am vad
[05:42] {Threei} just don't tell me I need to re-read that book please
[05:43] {Threei} I siccessfully forget everything I wrote in 5 min after finishing it... very convinient
[05:43] {bruce} lol
[05:43] {bruce} my first entry
[05:43] {bruce} If I were smarter I'd stop trading"
[05:43] {Threei} I'll have to disagree
[05:44] {bruce} lol
[05:44] {bruce} not making that entry
[05:44] {Threei} If I were smarter I'd stop losing is my version :)
[05:44] {Threei} on serious note, do you see the usefulness of what you read?
[05:44] {bruce} going to set up trade log to for individual trades
[05:44] {bruce} already do the daily results type tracking
[05:45] {bruce} its a good summary of key points vad
[05:45] {Threei} oh, ity's more than summary
[05:46] {bruce} might be if I can figure out which trades work and which don't better I can improve results
[05:46] {Threei} it's the logic behind building your trading approach which allows you to align all the elements of it
[05:46] {bruce} I could really realtae to bo yoder
[05:47] {bruce} death by a thousand cuts
[05:47] {bruce} but hat only happened to him for a month
[05:47] {bruce} so far this month- I have exactly 20 wins
[05:48] {bruce} 20 losses
[05:48] {bruce} \and they are within 50 c of each other on average
[05:48] {Threei} how doesa it relate to last month?
[05:48] {bruce} not exactly winning formula\
[05:48] {Threei} is it improvement or not?
[05:48] {bruce} no change - those are typical vad
[05:49] {bruce} with small variation
[05:49] {bruce} win/ loss close together
[05:49] {Threei} you mean last month had the same ratio?
[05:49] {Threei} then no changes were incorporated, and you continue doing same thing
[05:49] {Threei} which hasn't proved to be successful
[05:50] {Threei} but you have all the recipes for analisys within those results
[05:51] {Threei} can you pipoint the difference between winners and losers?
[05:51] {Threei} what kind of trades were more of a winners and what more of losers?
[05:52] {bruce} win lose is worse than last month
[05:52] {Threei} nail it, and you know what to expand on and what to cut on
[05:52] {bruce} last month 101 wins and 84 losses
[05:52] {bruce} but lost overall\
[05:52] {Threei} bruce... without those analysis you just roll a dice
[05:52] {bruce} took a min to calculate cause I track weekly
[05:53] {Threei} with such win/loss ratio I would sure have had a profitable month
[05:53] {bruce} I do a lot of diferent kinds of trades
[05:54] {Threei} and?
[05:54] {Threei} among those some are prone to work better than others
[05:55] {Threei} you need to start weeding out process
[05:57] {bruce} I don't have data on diferent trades types vad
[05:58] {bruce} will start to collect
[05:58] {bruce} for example
[05:58] {bruce} a dino type reversal will obviousl y be very dif than a vad style break
[05:58] {bruce} going to strat tracking trades by type to see what works\
[05:59] {bruce} cant keep doing what I ma thats for sure
[05:59] {dptl} good morning all
[05:59] {Threei} dp :)
[05:59] {bruce} hey dp
[05:59] {bruce} morn
[06:01] {Threei} SAUDI ARAMCO CEO: WORLD WILL NOT HIT OIL OUTPUT TOP FOR LONG TIME - WIRE HEADLINE
[06:02] {cosmo} hmmm....output has topped, if i read the solars correctly
[06:03] {dino} gm all
[06:03] {Threei} dino :)
[06:04] {cosmo} ETFC pre mkt range = 3.85 - 4.10
[06:05] {bruce} hi dino- cosmo
[06:05] {bruce} hello ram
[06:05] {cosmo} bruce:)
[06:06] {dino} gm 3i, bruce, cos
[06:07] {cosmo} ESLR pre mkt high = 13 fwiw
[06:08] {cosmo} etfc
[06:09] {Threei} don't forget BIOS
[06:09] {cosmo} ETFC should hold 4 ... i think
[06:11] {Threei} Update: some of recent weakness in solar sector being attributed to rising concerns that Congress may move forward on the energy bill without including renewal of solar tax credit
[06:11] {Threei} - Reportedly, on Friday the Solar Energy Industries Association, a national trade group, stated that House Speaker Pelosi has decided to move forward on the bill without the tax credits.
[06:11] {Threei} - a Think Equity analyst said today that this chatter emerged on Thursday and may explain some of the turnabout in prices of solar stocks.
[06:16] {Threei} UPDATE: BMO ANALYST SAYS E*TRADE BANKRUPTCY IS 'HIGHLY UNLIKELY.'- analyst says the company would have to experience massive withdrawals for it to have major issues. Notes deposits have grown for the last 13 months consecutively.
[06:21] {Threei} be back in 5
[06:26] {Threei} BIOS ready to break
[06:29] {esemde} GM Raven bruce cos dino dp hawk jmb ram
[06:30] {Threei} ese :)
[06:30] {bruce} hi ese
[06:31] {dino} gm ese
[06:31] {Raven} hi ese
[06:32] {Roman} ESLR
[06:33] {Roman} watching for a bounce today
[06:34] {cosmo} ETFC tests 4
[06:34] {Threei} BIOS 9.65 long if stays above 9.50
[06:35] {dino} guess we missed bidu
[06:36] {bruce} in bios .64
[06:36] {bruce} stop to .49
[06:37] {dino} egle l .39 hl
[06:39] {dino} stop is .98
[06:39] {Roman} SOHU long small
[06:42] {Threei} MLNM
[06:42] {Threei} 14 break long
[06:42] {Threei} .84 stop
[06:48] {esemde} good morning patience....my internet was shut down ...hows your connections
[06:49] {bruce} move bios stop to .65?
[06:49] {Threei} .59
[06:51] {patience} not sure ese, just home from the royal jubilee. took the night shift looking after my dad.
[06:53] {Roman} out SOHU flat
[06:53] {bruce} mlnm stop to .90 now?
[06:53] {Threei} .89
[06:54] {esemde} patience dcc
[06:54] {dino} egle stop to b/e
[06:57] {Threei} MLNM stop to .94
[06:58] {dino} egle stop to .74
[06:58] {bruce} done - thanks vad
[06:58] {bruce} working to protect profits
[06:59] {Threei} on a verge of break yet doesn't... want to keep it as safe as possible
[06:59] {Threei} notice how it trades:
[06:59] {Threei} spikes to new high and immediately retreats
[06:59] {dino} lock 'em in bruce
[06:59] {dino} out egle .79, +.40
[06:59] {Threei} so to got out on a spike you need to have order in
[07:00] {Roman} SCON
[07:00] {Roman} counber
[07:00] {Roman} bouncer
[07:00] {Roman} yesterday had $5.70 prints
[07:00] {Threei} great... Roman has strong case of dislexia today
[07:00] {dino} today???
[07:00] {Threei} on top of my typing, that's just what we needed
[07:03] {Threei} TUES
[07:03] {cosmo} correct
[07:03] {Threei} lol
[07:03] {Threei} daily looks nice for a scalp
[07:03] {Threei} half lot .30
[07:04] {Threei} .19 stop
[07:04] {bruce} thnaks dino - workin on it
[07:05] {dino} :)
[07:11] {Roman} long SATC full size
[07:11] {Roman} 1.61
[07:12] {Threei} BIOS stop to .64
[07:16] {Threei} TUES stop to .23
[07:17] {esemde} I missed this but NSIT is making a nice move
[07:18] {Chaeron} gm all
[07:19] {dino} nsit s hl .39, stop .67
[07:19] * Threei kicks BIOS in the rear with heavy duty army boots
[07:20] {Raven} Chaeron ... finally :)
[07:20] {Threei} Chaeron :)
[07:20] {bruce} mlnm stopped
[07:25] {dino} itri
[07:27] {bruce} bios is trading on appointment
[07:28] {bruce} send note dentist with drill is coming vad
[07:28] {Threei} lol
[07:28] {Threei} like pulling a tooth eh?
[07:29] {bruce} if fear of good doesn't work
[07:29] {bruce} fear of dentist will
[07:29] {Threei} {BIOS} when I trade at 10, the joke will be on you
[07:30] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: LOW CRUDE INVENTORIES ARE PUSHING UP THE PRICE OF OIL
[07:30] {Threei} really?
[07:31] {Threei} ALGERIAN ENERGY MINISTER: DO NOT EXPECT OUTPUT CHANGE AT THE DECEMBER OPEC MEETING
[07:31] {bruce} that cheap eddie talking?
[07:31] {Threei} XING?
[07:31] {dino} bidz
[07:33] {Threei} and here comes the crown:
[07:33] {Threei} QATARI OIL MINISTER: OPEC CAN NOT INCREASE SUPPLY, BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEMAND TO MEET IT
[07:34] {Threei} me so confused
[07:34] {bruce} thgats cause al gore doesn't drive his suv any more
[07:34] {dino} nsit bstop to .14
[07:34] {Threei} buyers say they have low inventory and big demand... suppliers say we won't supply more because tyou don't demand it...
[07:35] {cosmo} not since i had to sell the car
[07:35] {dino} stopped .14, +.24
[07:35] {dino} .25
[07:35] {Threei} bruce, you mean he hired a driver?
[07:36] {Threei} BIOS new high, qwhole cent higher than old high
[07:37] {Threei} TUES stop to .29
[07:40] {Threei} BIOS 1:1, believe it or not
[07:40] {Threei} half out for me, scalpers feel free to take profit
[07:42] {bruce} 1/2out bios
[07:42] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: US ECONOMY RESILIENCE TO HIGH OIL PRICES HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY
[07:43] {Threei} what is it, message to OPEC "we can take what you can dish out"?
[07:43] {bruce} stop moved to .74 on balance
[07:43] {Threei} .69 for me
[07:44] {bruce} k - maybe setting it too tight
[07:44] {Threei} not necessary
[07:44] {Threei} both are valid
[07:44] {bruce} als always had a driver vad
[07:44] {Threei} it's more of personal choice
[07:45] {bruce} k - I like to keep them prety tight
[07:45] {bruce} need to get bigger moves though
[07:46] {bruce} figured that out from your comments this am
[07:46] {Threei} don't rush to conclusions until you run the whole process of troublesahooting
[07:46] {Threei} it's not always that obvious
[07:47] {bruce} k
[07:47] {Threei} build youir next step when you are done with whole book, I have suspicion you start changing things as you go
[07:48] {bruce} me?
[07:48] {bruce} change things as I go?
[07:48] {Threei} 'If I were smarter" method is in psychology part, not in troubleshooting part
[07:48] {bruce} sheesh
[07:48] {bruce} ofcourse I do
[07:49] {bruce} just scanned for stuff to use right away
[07:49] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: US ECONOMY RESILIENCE TO HIGH OIL PRICES HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY - WIRE HEADLINE
[07:49] {Threei} - says too early to tell oil price's economic impact
[07:50] {dino} nafc hl s .39, stop .68
[07:53] {bruce} thanks dino
[07:54] {bruce} appreciate stop post with entry
[07:56] {dino} np, i'll try to remember
[07:57] {bruce} I would have set about .57
[07:57] {bruce} and thats probably not enough
[07:58] {dino} rinses w/kill you
[07:58] {bruce} iNED TO LEARN TO GET COMFORTABLE W WIDER STOPS W YOUR STYLE OF TRADES
[07:59] {bruce} oopp
[07:59] {bruce} sorry about caps
[07:59] {dino} i understand, problem w/my type is they get gappy
[07:59] {bruce} can see that
[07:59] {bruce} smaller shares
[07:59] {dino} yes
[07:59] {bruce} bigger stops
[08:00] {bruce} and big moves so wins justify risk
[08:01] {dino} i'll crack you up. a year ago my standard size was 1,000, since i changed to 500 and widened stop, i do much better
[08:02] {bruce} k
[08:02] {bruce} would imagine you had some pretty nasty drawdowns
[08:02] {dino} indeed, havard education i call it
[08:03] {dino} then i realized if i would stop being stupid, i could make some money
[08:04] {bruce} how did you realize larger stops were oing to work for you?
[08:05] {dino} reviewed my trades, lots more would've worked if i could've held on. so wider and smaller was the key. not to mention, much more relaxing way to trade
[08:06] {Threei} bruce... what dino descrobes is exactly the process of troubleshooting in the book you keep in hands
[08:06] {Threei} let me reiterate the idea of reading it thoroughly before you start apply changes
[08:07] {bruce} thanks dino
[08:07] {bruce} will do vad
[08:08] {dino} anytime, good luck
[08:13] {bruce} adjust nafc stop here dino?
[08:15] {dino} yes to b/e
[08:15] {bruce} k -that was my thought
[08:15] {bruce} we have 1 to 1 here
[08:15] {dino} or if scalping, book it
[08:16] {dino} if it gets to .00, bring stop to 1:1 and just see what happens
[08:17] {dino} to .15 stop now imo
[08:17] {dino} magoo says i'm stingy
[08:19] {dino} cov. ave .13, +.26, on that jump
[08:19] {dino} we'll key an eye on it
[08:19] {dino} brb
[08:21] {dino} rimm hod
[08:24] {Threei} remember my grim predictions for LDK?
[08:25] {Threei} have a look at it
[08:25] {Chaeron} messy
[08:28] {dino} wow
[08:30] {Roman} ESLR high
[08:32] {esemde} have a great rest of the day all.... see ya tomorrow
[08:33] {bruce} bye ses
[08:33] {bruce} ese
[08:33] {dino} cya ese
[08:33] {Threei} take care ese
[08:36] {dino} twgp spike
[08:38] {Threei} RIMM bounce candidate
[08:41] {dino} may have already missed rimm, pretty big move
[08:41] {Threei} under 109 would be nice if we get there
[08:41] {Threei} with its volatility there are plenty of bouncesa to scalp
[08:42] {dino} y
[08:44] {Threei} CLWR takeover rumors
[08:49] {bruce} rimm hit 109 vad
[08:50] {Threei} if grabbed RIMM under 109, take scalp here
[08:51] {bruce} Ididn't get it
[08:51] {bruce} no stop defiend
[08:51] {bruce} what would you have used vad?
[08:51] {bruce} prb need 50 c would think
[08:52] {Threei} it's different kind of play
[08:52] {Threei} following NQ rather than trading on its own merits
[08:53] {Threei} it hit 108.91, paused,
[08:53] {Threei} got back to 109, hesitated a little and broke it
[08:53] {Threei} that's the entry unless NQ drops hard
[08:53] {Threei} stop is NQ continuing down and ROMM making new low
[08:53] {Threei} RIMM
[08:53] {bruce} k
[08:54] {Threei} so in practicae it would look like this:
[08:54] {bruce} so using time and sales to judge momentum
[08:54] {Threei} NQ reverses, RIMM goes with it, fine,
[08:54] {bruce} and exit if it stalls while watching nq
[08:54] {Threei} NQ reverses RIMM makes new low, still holding,
[08:54] {Threei} since it's just its natuarl volatility
[08:54] {bruce} \k
[08:55] {Threei} and it's likely to bounce quickly if NQ shows strength
[08:55] {bruce} what do you call a play like that?
[08:55] {dino} chaos
[08:55] {Threei} playing the follower
[08:55] {dino} :)
[08:55] {Threei} lol
[08:55] {Threei} snake principle
[08:55] {Threei} watch where head goes to see where the tail is going to be
[08:56] {bruce} lol
[08:56] {bruce} think I will mostly avoid those plays for now
[08:56] {bruce} not much success with them
[08:57] {Threei} they can be very rewarding but they require lightening reflexes and good chunk of experience
[08:58] {bruce} they look inviting
[08:58] {bruce} quick movews
[08:58] {Threei} this is rather videogame kind of participation than normal technical trading
[08:58] {Threei} if you are good at Halo/Doom kind, shooting enemies left and right quickly...
[08:59] {bruce} yes - I know some people thaqt trade that way
[08:59] {bruce} big money
[08:59] {bruce} but takes lots of skill
[08:59] {Threei} big money usually doeas
[09:00] {Threei} (VZ) PRES CHAVEZ: PLANNING TO PROPOSE CHANGING METHOD FOR MEASURING OIL PRICES AT OPEC MEETING -WIRE HEADLINE
[09:00] {Threei} sigh
[09:03] {dino} jobs drop
[09:03] {dino} rvbd wakes up
[09:04] {bruce} bios back to hod
[09:05] {bruce} still a lay after that drop?
[09:05] {bruce} long play
[09:08] {Threei} not by me
[09:09] {bruce} k- just checking - didn't think so - figured pullback was too deeop to justify a long
[09:16] {bruce} thoughts on ldk?
[09:18] {Threei} damaged goods
[09:19] {bruce} lol k
[09:29] {bruce} taking a break
[09:29] {bruce} going to check out the pickle loaf
[09:30] {dino} lol
[09:30] {dino} chilli today
[09:33] {dino} ssrx blood
[09:41] {dino} ssrx hl l .82, stop .48
[09:44] -} *services* fdfd
[09:53] {dino} brb
[10:18] {Threei} IRAN GIVES IAEA PLANS TO MOLD URANIUM INTO WARHEADS - WIRE CITING ENVOYS- Iran fails to meet other IAEA requests on nuclear work
[10:22] {dino} just great
[10:23] {Chaeron} could be worse dino... I read it as they gave IKEA plans
[10:24] {dino} hmmm
[10:33] {Threei} slow day
[10:34] {dino} yes
[10:34] {dino} but profitable
[10:34] {Threei} yes, but nothing outstanding
[10:35] {Threei} I am spoiled be recent volatility I guess :)
[10:35] {Threei} be = by
[10:35] {dino} same, yesterday was very good
[10:45] {bruce} tiny profit for me today
[10:46] {bruce} think I'll just sit on hands though
[10:46] {bruce} nice change of trend from prior three
[10:52] {dino} crazy lately, reminds me of 1999-2000 w/these swings
[10:59] {Threei} OPEC SEC GENERAL: GROUP IS NOT HAPPY WITH HIGH PRICES, TO DISCUSS PRICES AND PRODUCTION AT DEC MEETING- reiterates belief there is plenty of oil in market
[11:00] {Threei} *OCT MONTHLY BUDGET STATEMENT: -$55.6 V -$59BE- prior reading was -$49.3B
[11:03] {dino} ssrx stop to .01
[11:05] {dino} out ssrx .00, +.18
[11:05] {dino} rinse
[11:18] {Threei} JCOM dino
[11:24] {Threei} NVDA short .56, .61 stop
[11:25] {dino} hmm
[11:26] {dino} egle l .89
[11:27] {dino} tbsi rockin'
[11:31] {dino} egle stop is .69 fwiw
[11:38] {bruce} wynn dino
[11:41] {dino} missed it
[11:42] {bruce} yup
[11:42] {bruce} could see it settinhg up- but I cant read tops
[11:44] {Threei} RIMM
[11:44] {dino} egle stop to .99 don't like it
[11:44] {Threei} long from here on fisrt sign of NQ reversal to upside
[11:45] {Threei} finger on a trigger
[11:46] {Threei} in
[11:46] {dino} asei drop
[11:47] {Threei} stop under .30
[11:48] {Threei} no speedy follow through, don't like it
[11:49] {Threei} out
[11:51] {Threei} nice shakeout
[11:52] {bruce} yes
[11:52] {bruce} tough play
[11:53] {dino} asei l hl .35
[11:53] {dino} stop .98
[11:54] {bruce} k thanks dino
[11:55] {dino} :)
[11:55] {dino} my entry sucked
[11:57] {bruce} i like nvda short here
[11:57] {dino} eclp
[11:58] {dino} nvda always gives me trouble
[11:59] {bruce} in .47 stop .59
[11:59] {bruce} will see if it workws
[12:00] {dino} egle stopped +.10
[12:00] {Threei} SEPT PENDING HOME SALES: +0.2% V -2.0%E
[12:01] {dino} eclp continues down
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {bruce} k
[12:04] {Threei} NQ +71
[12:04] {Threei} mama mia
[12:04] {Threei} as usual, this is the toughest kind of days to find a play
[12:04] {bruce} stopped nvda
[12:11] {dino} same here vad, the gap open and continue up are my toughest
[12:11] {Threei} yeah
[12:11] {Threei} and you know wnhat the most amazing thing is?
[12:11] {dino} chaos is moneymaker day
[12:11] {Threei} I make much more on big down days than I do on big up - yet most of plays are LONG
[12:12] {dino} same, cause i think capits on downs, euphoria on ups
[12:12] {dino} i'm pretty much a contrarian
[12:12] {Threei} remember I said yesterday, 11 trades on RIMM, 9 wins 2 stops?
[12:12] {dino} y
[12:12] {Threei} those 2 stops were both shorts
[12:12] {dino} lol
[12:12] {Threei} 9 wins were all longs
[12:12] {Threei} and that was big down day
[12:13] {dino} i was 3 for 4 on it, all long
[12:14] {Threei} whatever... I long as grew out of attempts to disect everything to every why... I accept things as they are and exploit them best I can even if I have no clue why they are what they are :)
[12:15] {Threei} there are enough academics to write tons of books explaining me why it's impossible to make money trading... I'll leave explanations to them
[12:16] {Threei} so far, no single losing day in Nov
[12:17] {dino} same, 2 down in oct
[12:18] {Threei} lemme look
[12:18] {dino} thats the key, no downs
[12:18] {Threei} you outdid me
[12:18] {Threei} 4 down days in Oct
[12:18] {Threei} but the worst of them is -180
[12:19] {dino} although, i am wrong, was down 85$ on nov 2
[12:19] {Threei} 3 others are less then 100 in minus
[12:19] {Threei} and I remember the -180 one - I started it with -700 thanks to my cat
[12:19] {dino} again, thats the key, took me awhile to realize a down cannot be bigger than an up
[12:19] {Threei} and spent a day digging out of a hole :)
[12:20] {bruce} geesh - so far 3 wins 4 loses this month
[12:21] {Threei} frikin thing stepped on a sound wire connecting main monitor with comouter and disconnected it,
[12:21] {Threei} I sent buy order for something evry volatile
[12:21] {Threei} no sound of order being filled,
[12:21] {Threei} I think I miss it,
[12:21] {Threei} switch to other stocks,
[12:22] {dino} i actually have alot of $200-400 days but not many down days, thats the difference
[12:22] {Threei} when I notice my P/L changes even though it shouldn't when I have no position, I am down 700 bucks lol
[12:22] {bruce} that was tough vad - down by accident
[12:22] {Threei} s**t happens
[12:24] {Threei} XMSR
[12:24] {Threei} SHAREHOLDERS APPROVE SIRI MERGER
[12:24] {Threei} I just shrug and start working on it, bruce :)
[12:24] {Threei} it is what it is
[12:26] {dino} exactly
[12:27] {dino} realistically, nothing matters its how you react
[12:27] {dino} asei stop to .65
[12:27] {Threei} yeah... the day it's proven that crying helps profiting from market I will learn to cry
[12:27] {dino} call me that day
[12:28] {Threei} if I may... one book I regard highly on this
[12:29] {Threei} 7 habits of the most effective people
[12:29] {dino} stopped asei +.30
[12:29] {Threei} there are things fully and totally out of our control
[12:29] {dino} 6/6 but all small hits, although just shy of daily
[12:29] {Threei} hurricanes... earthquakes... market moves
[12:30] {Threei} learn to form right mental attitude to deal with those
[12:30] {Threei} There are things that are in our immediate control
[12:30] {Threei} learn to manage them
[12:31] {Threei} and there are things that can be somewhat controlled through intermediary
[12:31] {Threei} by influencing other people
[12:31] {Threei} learn what factors matter and how to manage them
[12:32] {Threei} I hope esteemed Cohen will forgive me for quick and dirty overview
[12:32] {dino} get "millionaire traders", hits close to home on a couple of those traders
[12:32] {Threei} I can't read trading books anymore dino
[12:33] {dino} i understand, screws you up
[12:33] {Threei} mental block I guess, for the last 3 years at least
[12:33] {Threei} probably more
[12:33] {dino} first half of way of the turtles was pretty good too
[12:34] {Threei} Stephen King is fine with me
[12:35] {dino} lol
[12:35] {dino} best part of "trading in the zone" for me was; "anything can happen"
[12:35] {Threei} that one is very good
[12:36] {Threei} Zen in the market is very short and good
[12:37] {dino} rimm hod
[12:41] {Threei} scalped of 112
[12:42] {dino} was thinking of it, but chickened out
[12:45] {Threei} +81 NQ
[12:46] {Threei} a bit unreal
[12:48] {Threei} this second time I chickened out
[12:48] {Threei} so you must have gottent it
[12:49] {dino} no. pretty much done for the day
[12:49] {dino} gj tho
[12:50] {dino} will look at it tomorrow
[12:50] {dino} 10 pts up, may pull back
[12:51] {bruce} calling it a day folks
[12:51] {bruce} take care all
[12:51] {bruce} se you in am
[12:51] {Threei} take care bruce
[12:52] {Threei} thankl you all, have a good evening
[12:52] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[12:53] {dino} me too, thanks all
Monday, November 12, 2007
November 12, 2007
Session Start: Mon Nov 12 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Mon Nov 12 00:00:00 2007
[05:46] {bruce} morning rt
[05:48] {Threei} Good morning
[05:50] {hawkfan4} morning vad, all
[05:50] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:50] {bruce} hi vad
[05:50] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:50] {bruce} hi hawk
[05:50] {Threei} NQ daily looks quite spectacular doesn't it
[05:50] {Threei} 200 points in 3 days
[05:51] {hawkfan4} fairly impressive
[05:52] {Threei} supports at 2150 and 2100 got cut through as if they were never there
[05:53] {Threei} Sierra Leone joined Negiria and Ivory Coast today in noble desire to grant me a whole lot of money
[05:54] {bruce} wow
[05:54] {bruce} lucky you vad
[05:54] {Threei} if nothing esle, my geography knowledge will expnad greatly thanks to all those kind people
[05:54] {Threei} ummm... but nothing can be done about my typing it seems... damaged to the point of no return
[05:55] {bruce} wolf in sheeps clothing more like
[05:56] {bruce} odd start to christmas rally so far
[05:56] {Threei} it came early this year :)
[05:56] {bruce} markets keep rising durig traditional "slow" summer peiod
[05:57] {bruce} then drop during fall traditional expansion phase
[05:57] {bruce} maybe thats it
[05:57] {bruce} tit was moved up 6 months
[05:58] {Threei} eternal Who Moved My Cheese
[05:58] {bruce} to nigeria looks like
[05:59] {dptl} good morning all
[06:00] {Threei} dp :)
[06:00] {esemde} good morning team
[06:00] {Threei} ese :)
[06:00] {Threei} GORX
[06:00] {Threei} RECEIVES FDA APPROVAL TO MANUFACTURE AND DISTRIBUTE CARPROFEN- Commonly marketed by Pfizer as Rimadyl, Carprofen is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) that is used by veterinarians for the relief of pain and inflammation associated with osteoarthritis in dogs.
[06:03] {Threei} wierdo
[06:03] {Threei} went to 4.50 earlier, now print at 3.01?
[06:05] {Threei} OPWV MICROSOFT TO ACQUIRE OPENWAVE'S MUSICWAVE SA UNIT
[06:06] {Threei} GEOI REPORTS Q3 $0.10, R$8.6M
[06:08] {cosmo} DISH?
[06:08] {Threei} 00:04am [DISH] CitiGroup Cuts DISH to Hold from Buy
[06:09] {cosmo} hmm...k....thx
[06:09] {bruce} morning dp, ese cosmo
[06:10] {esemde} bruce
[06:10] {cosmo} "
[06:10] {Threei} there was complicated to digest piece of news on 11/09 cos
[06:10] {Threei} Communications Corp Reports Q3 $0.44 v $0.43e; R $2.79 v $2.81Be; To spin off tech and hardware business as IPO
[06:10] {Threei} -Formally announces spinoff of technology business and certain infrastructure assets as a seperate public company.
[06:10] {Threei} -The spin-off assets would include, among other things, our digital set-top box business and certain satellites, uplink and satellite transmission assets, real estate and other assets and related liabilities not considered core to our consumer business, DISH Network. In addition, a
[06:11] {Threei} In addition, as part of the spin-off ECC intends to contribute approximately $1.4B of cash and marketable and non-marketable investment securities to EHC. Final terms and timing of the spin-off have not yet been determined.
[06:11] {Threei} Guides stating "Looking ahead it may not be possible to reduce (subscriber turnover) without significantly increasing our spending on customer retention."
[06:12] {magoo} morning
[06:12] {Threei} magoo :)
[06:12] {bruce} hi magoo
[06:13] {cosmo} SDTH pre mkt high = 8.25 fwiw
[06:14] {dino} gm all
[06:14] {bruce} hi dino
[06:15] {dino} bruce :)
[06:16] {Threei} dino :)
[06:16] {dino} 3i:)
[06:19] {Threei} metals are down, oil is down, dollar is up... I take it inflation is defeated?
[06:20] {Threei} forever
[06:23] {Threei} HEARING GOLDMAN SACHS (HONG KONG) MAKING POSIVE COMMENTS ON MPEL- raises estimates and places it on conviction buy list
[06:24] {dino} drys 3/1 split
[06:25] {esemde} ETFC....anyone got news on etrade
[06:25] {cosmo} OPWV
[06:26] {Roman} ETFC E*TRADE: Loweiring 4Q EPS on higher CDO losses - Lehman (8.59 ) -Update-
[06:27] {Roman} ETFC E*TRADE: Loweiring 4Q EPS on higher CDO losses - Lehman (8.59 ) -Update-
[06:27] {esemde} tks
[06:28] {cosmo} OPWV: Microsoft says in talks to buy Musiwave
[06:28] {cosmo} at Reuters (Mon 9:21am)
[06:28] {cosmo} ... from OPWV...
[06:28] {cosmo} 3.69 hod so far
[06:29] {dino} rimm to 110 strike
[06:34] {Roman} DYII Dynacq Healthcare reports Aug quarter ended EPS of $0.22 vs. $0.08 YoY; revs increased 8% from a year ago to $10.1 mln (6.59 +0.25)
[06:37] {judi} need 3 or 4 premarket gainers and loosers?
[06:37] {esemde} NQ / S&P selling seems to have slowed Vad....maybe....any thoughts
[06:37] {dino} hl l rimm .50
[06:37] {patience} ese, think vad lost power because of high winds
[06:38] {esemde} it's blowing pretty hard right here for sure patience
[06:39] {dptl} same in Vancouver
[06:40] {dino} out rimm 112.55, +2.04
[06:40] {esemde} dp... patience...what are the wind speeds..have you heard
[06:40] {dino} wow way too soon
[06:41] {patience} very nice though dino
[06:41] {dino} ty patience
[06:41] {patience} haven't looked ese, enough to know i washed the car yesterday and i'm sure its plastered with oak leaves now
[06:42] {esemde} i can see my front lawn.....it was raked....
[06:43] {dino} 112.25 l rimm
[06:44] {dino} out 113, +.75
[06:48] {dino} l hl rimm .30
[06:50] {dino} stopped -.50
[06:53] {Roman} EGLE bouncing on daily
[06:53] {Roman} ENER kinda strong
[06:55] {Roman} WM
[06:55] {Roman} long small
[06:55] {Roman} 21.02
[06:57] {Roman} PAAS slow bouncer
[07:01] {Roman} stopped WM
[07:01] {Roman} -.12
[07:09] {Roman} market seting up for another drop
[07:15] {Roman} HOKU short watch
[07:36] {esemde} Chinese stocks seems to be bottoming out....anyone thinking that...
[07:38] {Roman} ESLR
[07:38] {Roman} short setup
[07:38] {Roman} off 13.10 small
[07:41] {cosmo} SDTH hod = 8.06 fwiw
[07:41] {cosmo} needs to hold 7.70
[07:43] {esemde} my daily highs window is going nuts....
[07:44] {esemde} market turnaround per chance....for christmas
[07:45] {cosmo} watching santa claus lane ...just in case
[07:45] {dino} lol
[07:46] {esemde} definately!~
[07:49] {cosmo} SDTH hod = 7.97 ...it now seems
[07:50] {cosmo} ...post open
[08:13] {dino} avtr, but thin
[08:39] {esemde} I tried to call Vad at home Patience...but i guess his phone must be out also
[08:50] {Roman} must be a serious storm?
[08:52] {bruce} he's on way to nigeria folks
[08:52] {Chaeron} Niagra or Nigeria?
[08:53] {bruce} nigeria
[08:53] {bruce} then ivory coast
[08:53] {bruce} pick up his winnings
[08:53] {Threei} hey guys
[08:53] {Chaeron} :P
[08:54] {bruce} wow
[08:54] {patience} thought you were down at the dock vad....
[08:54] {bruce} speak of the devil
[08:54] {Threei} lol, I wish
[08:54] {bruce} you calling from the plane vad?
[08:54] {Threei} [11:53] {Threei} lol, I wish
[08:54] {bruce} I just told them you were enroute to nigeria
[08:54] {magoo} hi vad
[08:54] {Threei} serious power outage
[08:54] {bruce} we've missed you
[08:55] {bruce} even dinos going light on his trading
[08:55] {Threei} did I miss something significant?
[08:55] {Chaeron} just you not being here is significant
[08:55] {Threei} ah thank you
[08:55] {Chaeron} sorry you missed it tho
[08:56] {Threei} lol
[09:00] {dino} jrjc drop
[09:01] {Threei} DIVX
[09:01] {Threei} 1.10 long with stop under 10
[09:02] {magoo} HUH?
[09:02] {Threei} grrr
[09:02] {Threei} 18.10 long with stop under 18
[09:03] {esemde} tried to call Vad.....see if you needed anything but i guess thephones goes out as well...
[09:03] {Threei} thank you
[09:04] {Threei} sometimes it works during outage, sometimes doesn't
[09:04] {esemde} thats odd
[09:04] {Threei} depends on whether Shaw backup is affected
[09:05] {esemde} I thought patience and I were going to be in the same boat over here by the water
[09:05] {Threei} yeah, I phoned bc hydro from my cell,
[09:05] {Threei} message said 0ver 85,000 customers are without power and new reports continue coming
[09:06] {Threei} so sit tight and wait
[09:06] {esemde} THANKS FOR THAT....
[09:06] {Threei} I thought I would be without power for couple days after that message lol
[09:06] {esemde} at least with the new gas stove well have hot meals
[09:07] {Threei} ahha
[09:07] {esemde} you'd be using your barbecue
[09:07] {Threei} nah, I will go to your place
[09:07] {esemde} done....
[09:07] {Threei} :)
[09:08] {Threei} come on DIVX, move
[09:15] {Threei} DIVX 1:1, half out, scalpers feel free to take profit
[09:16] {Threei} judi, looks dcc please
[09:23] {Threei} what's with solars?
[09:24] {magoo} major study release vads
[09:24] {Threei} Sun is not shining anymore according to it?
[09:25] {magoo} discovered rthat a solar eclispe has negative affects upon solar energy
[09:26] {Threei} UPDATE: SOME OF RECENT WEAKNESS IN SOLAR SECTOR BEING ATTRIBUTED TO RISING CONCERNS THAT CONGRESS MAY MOVE FORWARD ON THE ENERGY BILL WITHOUT INCLUDING RENEWAL OF SOLAR TAX CREDIT
[09:26] {Threei} - a Think Equity analyst said today that this chatter emerged on Thursday and may explain some of the turnabout in prices of solar stocks.{ESLR
[09:26] {Threei} but I like your version better magoo
[09:28] {Threei} DIVX balance stop .09
[09:29] {Threei} wow... e-trade collapse threat?
[09:36] {Threei} out DIVX in full
[09:36] {Threei} +.30
[09:36] {Threei} +.40, sorry'
[09:36] {magoo} nice vad, ty
[09:37] {Threei} welcome
[09:37] {Threei} good to be back
[09:37] {Threei} (even though I am ignored as usual)
[09:38] {bruce} lol - nice trade vad
[09:38] {Threei} ty
[09:38] {Threei} you took it?
[09:38] {bruce} no - missed due to urgent appointment w bladder
[09:41] {bruce} jpm - any read?
[09:42] {hawkfan4} DIVX nice vad, thx
[09:42] {Threei} no confidence... intraday looks like all day continuation but daily opbjects
[09:42] {Threei} welcome hawk
[09:43] {bruce} K - thanks
[09:50] {bruce} apol dino
[09:54] {dino} nah
[09:56] {dino} need bottom on rimm
[09:59] {bruce} hard to read rimm
[09:59] {bruce} double bottom here but looks like it wants to go lower still
[10:05] {Threei} NQ dropped about 15 ;points, DIVX stays at support
[10:05] {Threei} quite possible not done yet
[10:06] {bruce} you think divx may be a pullback entry at these levels vad?
[10:08] {Threei} it may... what I'd like to see for entry is,
[10:08] {bruce} aapl dino
[10:08] {Threei} stabil,izing with clear support and resistance,
[10:09] {Threei} then break of this resistance with NQ reversal
[10:09] {bruce} k - thanks vad
[10:10] {dino} risky, sm l rimm 104.75
[10:12] {dino} drys death
[10:14] {bruce} you caught rimm within 15 c of bottom
[10:14] {bruce} amazing read dino
[10:21] {dino} just lucky bro
[10:21] {bruce} lool - don't think so
[10:21] {bruce} congrats
[10:25] {dino} :)
[10:26] {bruce} drys l about here dino?
[10:28] {dino} stop to .98
[10:29] {dino} to .29
[10:29] {dino} stopped 106.29, +1.54
[10:31] {bruce} stopped drys
[10:31] {dino} they're messing w/drys lately
[10:31] {bruce} I entered - its to be expected
[10:32] {dino} 1/3 of its price gone in a week
[10:32] {bruce} 24c slippage - that sucks
[10:33] {bruce} crox drooped nearly by 1/2 in a week after showing nice uptrend
[10:33] {bruce} lots of long term traders got squashed there I bet
[10:34] {dino} oh yeah
[10:34] {dino} rimm, grmn too
[10:36] {bruce} yeah - the big boys
[10:36] {bruce} perfect for the kind of plays you do though dino
[10:38] {dino} yes
[10:39] {dino} fmcn drop
[10:41] {magoo} aapl bounce vad?
[10:42] {Threei} feels more like short to me
[10:42] {Threei} with NQ continuation down of course
[10:46] {bruce} \nice christmaqs rally oday
[10:49] {dino} fmcn l .00
[10:50] {bruce} stop to .50 dino?
[10:50] {dino} out .44, +.44
[10:50] {Threei} magoo... from what I observe, AAPL leads NQ today a l.ittle, instead of lagging
[10:51] {Threei} can't use NQ as indicator for it
[10:51] {dino} opps, yeah bruce, but out already
[10:51] {magoo} u got a read on rimmmvasd
[10:51] {bruce} yeah - see that
[10:51] {bruce} didn't get chance to enter
[10:51] {bruce} glad it worked ok
[10:53] {Threei} RIMM is short on bounce
[10:53] {Threei} no wau to pinpoint exact entry
[10:54] {Threei} moves 50 cents while I type
[10:54] {bruce} 104.75 or so vad?
[10:55] {bruce} w swtop to 105.25?
[10:55] {Threei} can't tell like this bruce, depends on what NQ does at the time
[10:55] {Threei} this is highly liquid situation, changes on a dime
[10:55] {bruce} k
[10:57] {Threei} bounce feel in the air
[11:00] {Threei} NQ break of 2020 should set bounce in motion
[11:04] {Threei} long RIMM
[11:04] {Threei} got .31, stiop under 103
[11:05] {Threei} out half
[11:05] {Threei} +.69
[11:06] {Threei} out flat
[11:06] {bruce} well done vad
[11:06] {Threei} a bit greedy ain't I
[11:07] {bruce} too fast for me on that one
[11:07] {bruce} don't think so
[11:07] {bruce} could have moved much higher if bounce took
[11:09] {Threei} anyone missed wisdom from above?
[11:09] {dino} cpla\
[11:10] {Threei} US ASSISTANT ENERGY SECRETARY HARBERT: US DOES NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OIL PRICE WILL AFFECT THE ECONOMY- Says OPEC is 'very concerned' about Crude prices, US has received no commitment from OPEC to raise output
[11:12] {dino} inwk
[11:13] {dino} too fast
[11:18] {bruce} taking a break
[11:21] {Threei} magoo
[11:21] {Threei} can play RIMM off AAPL
[11:22] {Threei} AAPL leads by window large enough for scalp entry
[11:22] {dino} cpla hl l .69
[11:22] {dino} wide
[11:22] {magoo} watchin vad
[11:24] {Threei} see? :)
[11:24] {Threei} perfect scalp with nice delay
[11:25] {Threei} short time now
[11:25] {Threei} there... quick 40 cents
[11:27] {Threei} missed long this time
[11:29] {Threei} ugh
[11:29] {Threei} gotta be quick on this type
[11:30] {magoo} long or short here?
[11:30] {Threei} RIMM gave nice entry point, I just fell into coma at the moment
[11:30] {Threei} watching
[11:30] {Threei} long still
[11:32] {Threei} AAPL losing it now
[11:32] {Threei} and here follows RIMM
[11:33] {Threei} observe their tie, get a feel for the delay and according size of the moves, don't count on my running commentary, it happens too quick
[11:49] {esemde} Signing off...see you all tomorrow
[11:49] {Threei} take care ese
[11:49] {esemde} see ya Vad ...hopefully we have electricity tomorrow.
[11:54] {Threei} fess up time for magoo... how many litres of adrenalin during last 20minutes?
[11:56] {Threei} I am dropping this pair for now, delay window has closed up
[11:56] {bruce} say Vadster -
[11:56] {bruce} you think you could find something with a bit less adrenaline for me and mags to close off day?
[11:57] {Threei} if it comes along
[11:57] {bruce} lol
[11:57] {bruce} figures
[11:57] {Threei} as one of my favorite authors says,
[11:57] {Threei} There will be water if God wills it
[11:57] {cosmo} DIVX again?
[11:58] {Threei} quite possible, holding rather well
[11:58] {bruce} I can only handle so many adrenaline plays a day
[11:59] {Threei} .50 is DIVX support
[11:59] {cosmo} should hold 18.55 ... needs to hold .50
[11:59] {Threei} worth a try
[12:01] {dino} cpla stopped .35, -.34
[12:01] {dino} back in 10
[12:02] {Threei} this market drop is a perfect test for DIVX
[12:03] {bruce} are you waiting for a .76 entry in divx vad?
[12:03] {Threei} no, a bit too far
[12:03] {Threei} just want to see market reversing
[12:03] {Threei} want it as close to .50 as possible
[12:04] {bruce} k
[12:05] {Threei} in .65
[12:05] {Threei} .49 stop
[12:05] {Threei} it just won't pullback any
[12:05] {Threei} and upticks with each NQ bounce
[12:21] {Threei} stop to .59
[12:26] {Threei} grrr
[12:27] {Threei} was ready for final step to 1:1 when NQ dumped again
[12:27] {bruce} geesh
[12:28] {bruce} kicks divx
[12:28] {bruce} sorry vad
[12:28] {bruce} jinxed you
[12:29] {dino} hl l tbsi .50
[12:29] {Threei} 7 cents... I can live with it
[12:32] {Threei} watchRIMM for short if NQ dives off 2010
[12:32] {Threei} got .99
[12:33] {Threei} 103.21 stop
[12:36] {dino} out tbsi .98, +.48
[12:36] {Threei} out flat
[12:36] {Threei} too unclear
[12:38] {bruce} quick reflexes vad
[12:38] {bruce} I took the stop
[12:39] {Threei} I trade it in and out in a very quick sequences bruce
[12:39] {Threei} just can't post them
[12:39] {Threei} grabbed two longs since then
[12:40] {Threei} missed this short... too bad
[12:41] {bruce} you were right about short
[12:41] {bruce} stop was just a bit too tight
[12:41] {Threei} well... two ways to play them
[12:41] {Threei} tighter stops, reenter on new signal
[12:42] {Threei} or wider stop aand go for bugger moves, dino's way
[12:42] {bruce} yes
[12:42] {Threei} bigger
[12:42] {bruce} trying to learn how to do those plays
[12:42] {bruce} they really move fast
[12:45] {Threei} interested in BIOS, gotta keep it on watch tomorrow
[12:47] {dino} pulp baby
[12:47] {bruce} lol -
[12:48] {bruce} bugger moves
[12:48] {Threei} lol
[12:48] {bruce} ype that qbout describes them vad
[12:48] {Threei} no kidding
[12:48] {bruce} how many trades you do in average day dino?
[12:50] {dino} 10\
[12:50] {Threei} EU'S JUNCKER: TIME HAS COME FOR FINANCE MINISTERS TO STOP PUBLIC COMMENTS ON FX - WIRE HEADLINE
[12:50] {dino} 10 rounds
[12:50] {Threei} but inquiring minds want to know?
[12:51] {bruce} k- was guessing it was closer to 20
[12:51] {bruce} just curious
[12:52] {Threei} 9.53 is long tyrigger for BIOS for tomorrow
[12:52] {dino} depends on the type day, fridays more because its scalp day, today only 8
[12:52] {dino} no set rule
[12:53] {Threei} 16 for me today... a bit high considering that I missed almost half of the day
[12:53] {Threei} RIMM mesmerized me
[12:53] {dino} ditto
[12:53] {dino} i was waiting at 99.60
[12:54] {Threei} sheesh
[12:54] {bruce} lots of money to be made if a person can learn to trade plays like that
[12:54] {Threei} 11 trades on RIMM
[12:54] {Threei} 9 wins, 2 losses
[12:54] {bruce} I just can't read them fast enough
[12:54] {bruce} and usually get mailed when ai try
[12:54] {magoo} i lost my ass on rimm
[12:54] {dino} 4 for me, 1 loss
[12:54] {dino} you missed my first, 2 points
[12:55] {Threei} I wouldn't be able to hold that long anyway
[12:55] {Threei} :)
[12:55] {bruce} nice stats gusy
[12:55] {bruce} I hae 1 win 4 losses
[12:56] {dino} watch them take it to 220 by friday
[12:56] {dino} 120 i mean
[12:56] {dino} wow bidu 303
[12:57] {Threei} BIDU is close to serious support
[12:57] {dino} going under 300 imo
[12:57] {dino} 125 points down +/-
[12:57] {dino} that has to hurt
[12:58] {cosmo} DIVX strong close
[12:58] {Threei} it's interesting on a quick dive under 300,
[12:58] {Threei} cefrtainly buy at 250,
[12:58] {Threei} and sell your kids and buy all you can at 200
[12:59] {dino} already sold the kids
[12:59] {dino} lol
[12:59] {Threei} make more
[12:59] {Threei} and sell
[12:59] {dino} nooooooo
[12:59] {Threei} BIDU at 200 will be worth it
[13:00] {bruce} thats what people said about internet stocks vad
[13:00] {bruce} can't possibly kee;p dropping
[13:00] {Threei} :)
[13:00] {Threei} OK guys, forecast is good, storm goes away... shouldn't be any troubles nearest time
[13:00] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening
[13:00] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:00] {dino} calling it a day, thx all
[13:01] {bruce} see you all in am
[13:01] {bruce} take care all
Session Time: Mon Nov 12 00:00:00 2007
[05:46] {bruce} morning rt
[05:48] {Threei} Good morning
[05:50] {hawkfan4} morning vad, all
[05:50] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:50] {bruce} hi vad
[05:50] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:50] {bruce} hi hawk
[05:50] {Threei} NQ daily looks quite spectacular doesn't it
[05:50] {Threei} 200 points in 3 days
[05:51] {hawkfan4} fairly impressive
[05:52] {Threei} supports at 2150 and 2100 got cut through as if they were never there
[05:53] {Threei} Sierra Leone joined Negiria and Ivory Coast today in noble desire to grant me a whole lot of money
[05:54] {bruce} wow
[05:54] {bruce} lucky you vad
[05:54] {Threei} if nothing esle, my geography knowledge will expnad greatly thanks to all those kind people
[05:54] {Threei} ummm... but nothing can be done about my typing it seems... damaged to the point of no return
[05:55] {bruce} wolf in sheeps clothing more like
[05:56] {bruce} odd start to christmas rally so far
[05:56] {Threei} it came early this year :)
[05:56] {bruce} markets keep rising durig traditional "slow" summer peiod
[05:57] {bruce} then drop during fall traditional expansion phase
[05:57] {bruce} maybe thats it
[05:57] {bruce} tit was moved up 6 months
[05:58] {Threei} eternal Who Moved My Cheese
[05:58] {bruce} to nigeria looks like
[05:59] {dptl} good morning all
[06:00] {Threei} dp :)
[06:00] {esemde} good morning team
[06:00] {Threei} ese :)
[06:00] {Threei} GORX
[06:00] {Threei} RECEIVES FDA APPROVAL TO MANUFACTURE AND DISTRIBUTE CARPROFEN- Commonly marketed by Pfizer as Rimadyl, Carprofen is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) that is used by veterinarians for the relief of pain and inflammation associated with osteoarthritis in dogs.
[06:03] {Threei} wierdo
[06:03] {Threei} went to 4.50 earlier, now print at 3.01?
[06:05] {Threei} OPWV MICROSOFT TO ACQUIRE OPENWAVE'S MUSICWAVE SA UNIT
[06:06] {Threei} GEOI REPORTS Q3 $0.10, R$8.6M
[06:08] {cosmo} DISH?
[06:08] {Threei} 00:04am [DISH] CitiGroup Cuts DISH to Hold from Buy
[06:09] {cosmo} hmm...k....thx
[06:09] {bruce} morning dp, ese cosmo
[06:10] {esemde} bruce
[06:10] {cosmo} "
[06:10] {Threei} there was complicated to digest piece of news on 11/09 cos
[06:10] {Threei} Communications Corp Reports Q3 $0.44 v $0.43e; R $2.79 v $2.81Be; To spin off tech and hardware business as IPO
[06:10] {Threei} -Formally announces spinoff of technology business and certain infrastructure assets as a seperate public company.
[06:10] {Threei} -The spin-off assets would include, among other things, our digital set-top box business and certain satellites, uplink and satellite transmission assets, real estate and other assets and related liabilities not considered core to our consumer business, DISH Network. In addition, a
[06:11] {Threei} In addition, as part of the spin-off ECC intends to contribute approximately $1.4B of cash and marketable and non-marketable investment securities to EHC. Final terms and timing of the spin-off have not yet been determined.
[06:11] {Threei} Guides stating "Looking ahead it may not be possible to reduce (subscriber turnover) without significantly increasing our spending on customer retention."
[06:12] {magoo} morning
[06:12] {Threei} magoo :)
[06:12] {bruce} hi magoo
[06:13] {cosmo} SDTH pre mkt high = 8.25 fwiw
[06:14] {dino} gm all
[06:14] {bruce} hi dino
[06:15] {dino} bruce :)
[06:16] {Threei} dino :)
[06:16] {dino} 3i:)
[06:19] {Threei} metals are down, oil is down, dollar is up... I take it inflation is defeated?
[06:20] {Threei} forever
[06:23] {Threei} HEARING GOLDMAN SACHS (HONG KONG) MAKING POSIVE COMMENTS ON MPEL- raises estimates and places it on conviction buy list
[06:24] {dino} drys 3/1 split
[06:25] {esemde} ETFC....anyone got news on etrade
[06:25] {cosmo} OPWV
[06:26] {Roman} ETFC E*TRADE: Loweiring 4Q EPS on higher CDO losses - Lehman (8.59 ) -Update-
[06:27] {Roman} ETFC E*TRADE: Loweiring 4Q EPS on higher CDO losses - Lehman (8.59 ) -Update-
[06:27] {esemde} tks
[06:28] {cosmo} OPWV: Microsoft says in talks to buy Musiwave
[06:28] {cosmo} at Reuters (Mon 9:21am)
[06:28] {cosmo} ... from OPWV...
[06:28] {cosmo} 3.69 hod so far
[06:29] {dino} rimm to 110 strike
[06:34] {Roman} DYII Dynacq Healthcare reports Aug quarter ended EPS of $0.22 vs. $0.08 YoY; revs increased 8% from a year ago to $10.1 mln (6.59 +0.25)
[06:37] {judi} need 3 or 4 premarket gainers and loosers?
[06:37] {esemde} NQ / S&P selling seems to have slowed Vad....maybe....any thoughts
[06:37] {dino} hl l rimm .50
[06:37] {patience} ese, think vad lost power because of high winds
[06:38] {esemde} it's blowing pretty hard right here for sure patience
[06:39] {dptl} same in Vancouver
[06:40] {dino} out rimm 112.55, +2.04
[06:40] {esemde} dp... patience...what are the wind speeds..have you heard
[06:40] {dino} wow way too soon
[06:41] {patience} very nice though dino
[06:41] {dino} ty patience
[06:41] {patience} haven't looked ese, enough to know i washed the car yesterday and i'm sure its plastered with oak leaves now
[06:42] {esemde} i can see my front lawn.....it was raked....
[06:43] {dino} 112.25 l rimm
[06:44] {dino} out 113, +.75
[06:48] {dino} l hl rimm .30
[06:50] {dino} stopped -.50
[06:53] {Roman} EGLE bouncing on daily
[06:53] {Roman} ENER kinda strong
[06:55] {Roman} WM
[06:55] {Roman} long small
[06:55] {Roman} 21.02
[06:57] {Roman} PAAS slow bouncer
[07:01] {Roman} stopped WM
[07:01] {Roman} -.12
[07:09] {Roman} market seting up for another drop
[07:15] {Roman} HOKU short watch
[07:36] {esemde} Chinese stocks seems to be bottoming out....anyone thinking that...
[07:38] {Roman} ESLR
[07:38] {Roman} short setup
[07:38] {Roman} off 13.10 small
[07:41] {cosmo} SDTH hod = 8.06 fwiw
[07:41] {cosmo} needs to hold 7.70
[07:43] {esemde} my daily highs window is going nuts....
[07:44] {esemde} market turnaround per chance....for christmas
[07:45] {cosmo} watching santa claus lane ...just in case
[07:45] {dino} lol
[07:46] {esemde} definately!~
[07:49] {cosmo} SDTH hod = 7.97 ...it now seems
[07:50] {cosmo} ...post open
[08:13] {dino} avtr, but thin
[08:39] {esemde} I tried to call Vad at home Patience...but i guess his phone must be out also
[08:50] {Roman} must be a serious storm?
[08:52] {bruce} he's on way to nigeria folks
[08:52] {Chaeron} Niagra or Nigeria?
[08:53] {bruce} nigeria
[08:53] {bruce} then ivory coast
[08:53] {bruce} pick up his winnings
[08:53] {Threei} hey guys
[08:53] {Chaeron} :P
[08:54] {bruce} wow
[08:54] {patience} thought you were down at the dock vad....
[08:54] {bruce} speak of the devil
[08:54] {Threei} lol, I wish
[08:54] {bruce} you calling from the plane vad?
[08:54] {Threei} [11:53] {Threei} lol, I wish
[08:54] {bruce} I just told them you were enroute to nigeria
[08:54] {magoo} hi vad
[08:54] {Threei} serious power outage
[08:54] {bruce} we've missed you
[08:55] {bruce} even dinos going light on his trading
[08:55] {Threei} did I miss something significant?
[08:55] {Chaeron} just you not being here is significant
[08:55] {Threei} ah thank you
[08:55] {Chaeron} sorry you missed it tho
[08:56] {Threei} lol
[09:00] {dino} jrjc drop
[09:01] {Threei} DIVX
[09:01] {Threei} 1.10 long with stop under 10
[09:02] {magoo} HUH?
[09:02] {Threei} grrr
[09:02] {Threei} 18.10 long with stop under 18
[09:03] {esemde} tried to call Vad.....see if you needed anything but i guess thephones goes out as well...
[09:03] {Threei} thank you
[09:04] {Threei} sometimes it works during outage, sometimes doesn't
[09:04] {esemde} thats odd
[09:04] {Threei} depends on whether Shaw backup is affected
[09:05] {esemde} I thought patience and I were going to be in the same boat over here by the water
[09:05] {Threei} yeah, I phoned bc hydro from my cell,
[09:05] {Threei} message said 0ver 85,000 customers are without power and new reports continue coming
[09:06] {Threei} so sit tight and wait
[09:06] {esemde} THANKS FOR THAT....
[09:06] {Threei} I thought I would be without power for couple days after that message lol
[09:06] {esemde} at least with the new gas stove well have hot meals
[09:07] {Threei} ahha
[09:07] {esemde} you'd be using your barbecue
[09:07] {Threei} nah, I will go to your place
[09:07] {esemde} done....
[09:07] {Threei} :)
[09:08] {Threei} come on DIVX, move
[09:15] {Threei} DIVX 1:1, half out, scalpers feel free to take profit
[09:16] {Threei} judi, looks dcc please
[09:23] {Threei} what's with solars?
[09:24] {magoo} major study release vads
[09:24] {Threei} Sun is not shining anymore according to it?
[09:25] {magoo} discovered rthat a solar eclispe has negative affects upon solar energy
[09:26] {Threei} UPDATE: SOME OF RECENT WEAKNESS IN SOLAR SECTOR BEING ATTRIBUTED TO RISING CONCERNS THAT CONGRESS MAY MOVE FORWARD ON THE ENERGY BILL WITHOUT INCLUDING RENEWAL OF SOLAR TAX CREDIT
[09:26] {Threei} - a Think Equity analyst said today that this chatter emerged on Thursday and may explain some of the turnabout in prices of solar stocks.{ESLR
[09:26] {Threei} but I like your version better magoo
[09:28] {Threei} DIVX balance stop .09
[09:29] {Threei} wow... e-trade collapse threat?
[09:36] {Threei} out DIVX in full
[09:36] {Threei} +.30
[09:36] {Threei} +.40, sorry'
[09:36] {magoo} nice vad, ty
[09:37] {Threei} welcome
[09:37] {Threei} good to be back
[09:37] {Threei} (even though I am ignored as usual)
[09:38] {bruce} lol - nice trade vad
[09:38] {Threei} ty
[09:38] {Threei} you took it?
[09:38] {bruce} no - missed due to urgent appointment w bladder
[09:41] {bruce} jpm - any read?
[09:42] {hawkfan4} DIVX nice vad, thx
[09:42] {Threei} no confidence... intraday looks like all day continuation but daily opbjects
[09:42] {Threei} welcome hawk
[09:43] {bruce} K - thanks
[09:50] {bruce} apol dino
[09:54] {dino} nah
[09:56] {dino} need bottom on rimm
[09:59] {bruce} hard to read rimm
[09:59] {bruce} double bottom here but looks like it wants to go lower still
[10:05] {Threei} NQ dropped about 15 ;points, DIVX stays at support
[10:05] {Threei} quite possible not done yet
[10:06] {bruce} you think divx may be a pullback entry at these levels vad?
[10:08] {Threei} it may... what I'd like to see for entry is,
[10:08] {bruce} aapl dino
[10:08] {Threei} stabil,izing with clear support and resistance,
[10:09] {Threei} then break of this resistance with NQ reversal
[10:09] {bruce} k - thanks vad
[10:10] {dino} risky, sm l rimm 104.75
[10:12] {dino} drys death
[10:14] {bruce} you caught rimm within 15 c of bottom
[10:14] {bruce} amazing read dino
[10:21] {dino} just lucky bro
[10:21] {bruce} lool - don't think so
[10:21] {bruce} congrats
[10:25] {dino} :)
[10:26] {bruce} drys l about here dino?
[10:28] {dino} stop to .98
[10:29] {dino} to .29
[10:29] {dino} stopped 106.29, +1.54
[10:31] {bruce} stopped drys
[10:31] {dino} they're messing w/drys lately
[10:31] {bruce} I entered - its to be expected
[10:32] {dino} 1/3 of its price gone in a week
[10:32] {bruce} 24c slippage - that sucks
[10:33] {bruce} crox drooped nearly by 1/2 in a week after showing nice uptrend
[10:33] {bruce} lots of long term traders got squashed there I bet
[10:34] {dino} oh yeah
[10:34] {dino} rimm, grmn too
[10:36] {bruce} yeah - the big boys
[10:36] {bruce} perfect for the kind of plays you do though dino
[10:38] {dino} yes
[10:39] {dino} fmcn drop
[10:41] {magoo} aapl bounce vad?
[10:42] {Threei} feels more like short to me
[10:42] {Threei} with NQ continuation down of course
[10:46] {bruce} \nice christmaqs rally oday
[10:49] {dino} fmcn l .00
[10:50] {bruce} stop to .50 dino?
[10:50] {dino} out .44, +.44
[10:50] {Threei} magoo... from what I observe, AAPL leads NQ today a l.ittle, instead of lagging
[10:51] {Threei} can't use NQ as indicator for it
[10:51] {dino} opps, yeah bruce, but out already
[10:51] {magoo} u got a read on rimmmvasd
[10:51] {bruce} yeah - see that
[10:51] {bruce} didn't get chance to enter
[10:51] {bruce} glad it worked ok
[10:53] {Threei} RIMM is short on bounce
[10:53] {Threei} no wau to pinpoint exact entry
[10:54] {Threei} moves 50 cents while I type
[10:54] {bruce} 104.75 or so vad?
[10:55] {bruce} w swtop to 105.25?
[10:55] {Threei} can't tell like this bruce, depends on what NQ does at the time
[10:55] {Threei} this is highly liquid situation, changes on a dime
[10:55] {bruce} k
[10:57] {Threei} bounce feel in the air
[11:00] {Threei} NQ break of 2020 should set bounce in motion
[11:04] {Threei} long RIMM
[11:04] {Threei} got .31, stiop under 103
[11:05] {Threei} out half
[11:05] {Threei} +.69
[11:06] {Threei} out flat
[11:06] {bruce} well done vad
[11:06] {Threei} a bit greedy ain't I
[11:07] {bruce} too fast for me on that one
[11:07] {bruce} don't think so
[11:07] {bruce} could have moved much higher if bounce took
[11:09] {Threei} anyone missed wisdom from above?
[11:09] {dino} cpla\
[11:10] {Threei} US ASSISTANT ENERGY SECRETARY HARBERT: US DOES NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OIL PRICE WILL AFFECT THE ECONOMY- Says OPEC is 'very concerned' about Crude prices, US has received no commitment from OPEC to raise output
[11:12] {dino} inwk
[11:13] {dino} too fast
[11:18] {bruce} taking a break
[11:21] {Threei} magoo
[11:21] {Threei} can play RIMM off AAPL
[11:22] {Threei} AAPL leads by window large enough for scalp entry
[11:22] {dino} cpla hl l .69
[11:22] {dino} wide
[11:22] {magoo} watchin vad
[11:24] {Threei} see? :)
[11:24] {Threei} perfect scalp with nice delay
[11:25] {Threei} short time now
[11:25] {Threei} there... quick 40 cents
[11:27] {Threei} missed long this time
[11:29] {Threei} ugh
[11:29] {Threei} gotta be quick on this type
[11:30] {magoo} long or short here?
[11:30] {Threei} RIMM gave nice entry point, I just fell into coma at the moment
[11:30] {Threei} watching
[11:30] {Threei} long still
[11:32] {Threei} AAPL losing it now
[11:32] {Threei} and here follows RIMM
[11:33] {Threei} observe their tie, get a feel for the delay and according size of the moves, don't count on my running commentary, it happens too quick
[11:49] {esemde} Signing off...see you all tomorrow
[11:49] {Threei} take care ese
[11:49] {esemde} see ya Vad ...hopefully we have electricity tomorrow.
[11:54] {Threei} fess up time for magoo... how many litres of adrenalin during last 20minutes?
[11:56] {Threei} I am dropping this pair for now, delay window has closed up
[11:56] {bruce} say Vadster -
[11:56] {bruce} you think you could find something with a bit less adrenaline for me and mags to close off day?
[11:57] {Threei} if it comes along
[11:57] {bruce} lol
[11:57] {bruce} figures
[11:57] {Threei} as one of my favorite authors says,
[11:57] {Threei} There will be water if God wills it
[11:57] {cosmo} DIVX again?
[11:58] {Threei} quite possible, holding rather well
[11:58] {bruce} I can only handle so many adrenaline plays a day
[11:59] {Threei} .50 is DIVX support
[11:59] {cosmo} should hold 18.55 ... needs to hold .50
[11:59] {Threei} worth a try
[12:01] {dino} cpla stopped .35, -.34
[12:01] {dino} back in 10
[12:02] {Threei} this market drop is a perfect test for DIVX
[12:03] {bruce} are you waiting for a .76 entry in divx vad?
[12:03] {Threei} no, a bit too far
[12:03] {Threei} just want to see market reversing
[12:03] {Threei} want it as close to .50 as possible
[12:04] {bruce} k
[12:05] {Threei} in .65
[12:05] {Threei} .49 stop
[12:05] {Threei} it just won't pullback any
[12:05] {Threei} and upticks with each NQ bounce
[12:21] {Threei} stop to .59
[12:26] {Threei} grrr
[12:27] {Threei} was ready for final step to 1:1 when NQ dumped again
[12:27] {bruce} geesh
[12:28] {bruce} kicks divx
[12:28] {bruce} sorry vad
[12:28] {bruce} jinxed you
[12:29] {dino} hl l tbsi .50
[12:29] {Threei} 7 cents... I can live with it
[12:32] {Threei} watchRIMM for short if NQ dives off 2010
[12:32] {Threei} got .99
[12:33] {Threei} 103.21 stop
[12:36] {dino} out tbsi .98, +.48
[12:36] {Threei} out flat
[12:36] {Threei} too unclear
[12:38] {bruce} quick reflexes vad
[12:38] {bruce} I took the stop
[12:39] {Threei} I trade it in and out in a very quick sequences bruce
[12:39] {Threei} just can't post them
[12:39] {Threei} grabbed two longs since then
[12:40] {Threei} missed this short... too bad
[12:41] {bruce} you were right about short
[12:41] {bruce} stop was just a bit too tight
[12:41] {Threei} well... two ways to play them
[12:41] {Threei} tighter stops, reenter on new signal
[12:42] {Threei} or wider stop aand go for bugger moves, dino's way
[12:42] {bruce} yes
[12:42] {Threei} bigger
[12:42] {bruce} trying to learn how to do those plays
[12:42] {bruce} they really move fast
[12:45] {Threei} interested in BIOS, gotta keep it on watch tomorrow
[12:47] {dino} pulp baby
[12:47] {bruce} lol -
[12:48] {bruce} bugger moves
[12:48] {Threei} lol
[12:48] {bruce} ype that qbout describes them vad
[12:48] {Threei} no kidding
[12:48] {bruce} how many trades you do in average day dino?
[12:50] {dino} 10\
[12:50] {Threei} EU'S JUNCKER: TIME HAS COME FOR FINANCE MINISTERS TO STOP PUBLIC COMMENTS ON FX - WIRE HEADLINE
[12:50] {dino} 10 rounds
[12:50] {Threei} but inquiring minds want to know?
[12:51] {bruce} k- was guessing it was closer to 20
[12:51] {bruce} just curious
[12:52] {Threei} 9.53 is long tyrigger for BIOS for tomorrow
[12:52] {dino} depends on the type day, fridays more because its scalp day, today only 8
[12:52] {dino} no set rule
[12:53] {Threei} 16 for me today... a bit high considering that I missed almost half of the day
[12:53] {Threei} RIMM mesmerized me
[12:53] {dino} ditto
[12:53] {dino} i was waiting at 99.60
[12:54] {Threei} sheesh
[12:54] {bruce} lots of money to be made if a person can learn to trade plays like that
[12:54] {Threei} 11 trades on RIMM
[12:54] {Threei} 9 wins, 2 losses
[12:54] {bruce} I just can't read them fast enough
[12:54] {bruce} and usually get mailed when ai try
[12:54] {magoo} i lost my ass on rimm
[12:54] {dino} 4 for me, 1 loss
[12:54] {dino} you missed my first, 2 points
[12:55] {Threei} I wouldn't be able to hold that long anyway
[12:55] {Threei} :)
[12:55] {bruce} nice stats gusy
[12:55] {bruce} I hae 1 win 4 losses
[12:56] {dino} watch them take it to 220 by friday
[12:56] {dino} 120 i mean
[12:56] {dino} wow bidu 303
[12:57] {Threei} BIDU is close to serious support
[12:57] {dino} going under 300 imo
[12:57] {dino} 125 points down +/-
[12:57] {dino} that has to hurt
[12:58] {cosmo} DIVX strong close
[12:58] {Threei} it's interesting on a quick dive under 300,
[12:58] {Threei} cefrtainly buy at 250,
[12:58] {Threei} and sell your kids and buy all you can at 200
[12:59] {dino} already sold the kids
[12:59] {dino} lol
[12:59] {Threei} make more
[12:59] {Threei} and sell
[12:59] {dino} nooooooo
[12:59] {Threei} BIDU at 200 will be worth it
[13:00] {bruce} thats what people said about internet stocks vad
[13:00] {bruce} can't possibly kee;p dropping
[13:00] {Threei} :)
[13:00] {Threei} OK guys, forecast is good, storm goes away... shouldn't be any troubles nearest time
[13:00] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening
[13:00] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:00] {dino} calling it a day, thx all
[13:01] {bruce} see you all in am
[13:01] {bruce} take care all
Friday, November 9, 2007
November 9, 2007
Session Start: Fri Nov 09 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Fri Nov 09 00:00:00 2007
[05:17] {magoo} morn RT
[05:31] {bruce} morning magoo
[05:31] {bruce} morning all
[05:31] {hawkfan4} morning mags, all
[05:34] {magoo} morn hawk, bruce
[05:34] {magoo} today gonna be a wild ride
[05:34] {cosmo} MDRX
[05:35] {bruce} volatile yesterday?
[05:35] {cosmo} MDRXmisses...warns too
[05:35] {magoo} cos, news on JASO? killing it
[05:36] {cosmo} hmm
[05:36] {cosmo} [audio] JA SOLAR HOLDINGS CO LTD Earnings Conference Call (happening now)
[05:36] {cosmo} JA Solar 3rd-quarter profit rises, raises outlook
[05:36] {cosmo} at Reuters (Fri 8:07am)
[05:37] {magoo} 75 start of premkt
[05:37] {cosmo} profits?
[05:38] {Threei} Good morning
[05:38] {Threei} [JASO] JA Solar Holdings Reports Q3 $0.47 v $0.36e; R $113.4M v $99.7Me
[05:38] {Threei} -Raises FY07 production outlook to 120MW from 110Mw, Sees Revenues $320-330M v $312.5Me
[05:38] {Threei} -Expects to reach production capacity of 425MW/year by FYE 2008 (Current capacity is approx 175MW)
[05:39] {magoo} morn vad
[05:39] {Threei} hi mags
[05:39] {Threei} don't know what they said in that call on JASO
[05:40] {Threei} but selling seems horribly overdsone
[05:40] {magoo} bouncer
[05:40] {magoo} 75 premkt open
[05:45] {bruce} morn vad
[05:46] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:49] {Threei} missed one of the best days yesterday bruce
[05:49] {magoo} nice vad :)
[05:50] {Threei} I think dino made his yearly goal in one day :)
[05:50] {dptl} good morning all
[05:50] {Threei} dp :)
[05:51] {bruce} great
[05:51] {bruce} figured that would happen vad
[05:51] {Threei} new wave of selling JASO
[05:51] {Threei} what the
[05:53] {Threei} it trades as if they were all drunk in that conference call, and instead of answring questions were just giggling and flipping birds
[05:54] {magoo} must be reason posteed somewhere
[05:54] {magoo} this is nuts
[05:55] {bruce} hello dp
[05:55] {Threei} nothing is posted, it's something that is being said in cc
[05:55] {magoo} aren't u listening to the call he he?
[05:55] {Threei} lol
[05:55] {Threei} sure... that's exactly my idea of Friday morning
[05:56] {Threei} look at that
[05:56] {Threei} bid it at $1
[05:56] {Threei} at such rate you should get filled in 10 minutes
[05:56] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:57] {esemde} morning all....
[05:58] {bruce} hello ese
[05:58] {esemde} mornin bruce
[06:02] {Threei} ese :)
[06:05] {Threei} should pull back a bit now, then continue recovery
[06:06] {Threei} if something was misinterpreted, recovery will be big
[06:12] {Threei} pullback feels done
[06:12] {esemde} i need to be fired by CITI group...29mil severance..corner office..car/driver for 5 yrs.benefits....what a drap not being liked
[06:12] {magoo} solar correct?
[06:12] {Threei} lol ese
[06:12] {magoo} chineses solar vad?
[06:12] {Threei} probably
[06:13] {Threei} grabbed a little 56.30
[06:13] {magoo} your commebnt yesterday, remember?
[06:13] {Threei} out 57.90
[06:14] {Threei} about china+solar? :)
[06:14] {Threei} yeah... surefire recipe :)
[06:15] {cosmo} AMAT 18.90 pre mkt high fwiw
[06:15] {Threei} AMAT has something to do with solars too if I am not mistaken
[06:16] {Raven} AMAT analyst upgrade
[06:16] {Raven} and ... yes ... solar
[06:16] {cosmo} they buy out the smaller ones at some point...right?
[06:16] {Raven} (but don't tell) :)
[06:17] {Raven} AMAT - $19.15 pre high here cosmoski
[06:17] {esemde} hush hush...
[06:17] {cosmo} ah...thx
[06:18] {cosmo} needs to hold .65 imo
[06:18] {Raven} gap down to $18.07
[06:19] {cosmo} when?
[06:19] {Raven} yesterday high 18.07
[06:19] {cosmo} k
[06:23] {bruce} leap
[06:23] {Threei} LEAP restated 2006 earnings, cut by two brokers
[06:25] {dino} gm all
[06:25] {Threei} dino :)
[06:27] {dino} :)
[06:29] {bruce} hi dino
[06:29] {bruce} hear you nailed it yesterday
[06:31] {dino} good day yes
[06:31] {bruce} congrats
[06:32] {Threei} watching OMNI
[06:33] {dino} ty
[06:35] {Threei} AMAT .25 long half lot
[06:38] {Threei} ESLR bounce candidate off 14
[06:38] {Threei} watch NQ for guidance
[06:39] {bruce} amat invalid for now?
[06:39] {Threei} rather bounce play
[06:40] {Threei} in ESLR
[06:40] {magoo} missed
[06:40] {magoo} fast
[06:41] {dino} risky hl l rimm 117.50
[06:41] {esemde} bounce play Vad
[06:41] {Threei} half out .25
[06:42] {Threei} stop 13.99
[06:42] {Threei} missed AMAT entry 'cause of ESLR :)
[06:42] {bruce} missed them both
[06:42] {Threei} ESLR gave second chance
[06:43] {magoo} yeah
[06:43] {bruce} what waws initial stop eslr - looks about 13.65?
[06:43] {magoo} thought it was goin lower
[06:43] {Threei} nah, wouldn't let it go that low
[06:44] {bruce} k- that was first support I saw
[06:44] {magoo} i went on orig call
[06:44] {Threei} [09:38] {Threei} watch NQ for guidance
[06:45] {Threei} NQ continued dropping at the moment, ESLR recovered when NQ started bounce
[06:45] {Threei} out in full .50
[06:46] {magoo} nice boss:)
[06:46] {Threei} not delighted by AMAT here
[06:46] {Threei} waiting for it to form something more clear
[06:48] {Threei} wow
[06:48] {dino} out rimm 119.00 +1.50
[06:48] {dino} too soon
[06:48] {Threei} this NQ spike made my exit look dismall :)
[06:48] {Threei} welcome to the club dino
[06:48] {Threei} but this is friday
[06:48] {Threei} let's take our scalps and be happy
[06:49] {esemde} still........good work dino
[06:49] {Threei} anything can happen today
[06:49] {dino} thx guys
[06:49] {esemde} and probably will
[06:49] {Threei} I will be equally unsirprized to see +100 or -100 day for NQ
[06:49] {magoo} l jaso .49
[06:50] {magoo} out 1 [point
[06:50] {magoo} fast
[06:50] {magoo} too fast to post..uin 62.49..out 63.35
[06:51] {Threei} AMAT... range is being established so far
[06:51] {Threei} 19 - 19.25
[06:53] {magoo} dow down 169
[06:55] {dino} lod's dow
[06:55] {dino} new lows
[06:55] {magoo} its friday..could get ugly
[06:55] {magoo} bidu is literally down 90 points in 3 sessions
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[07:08] {magoo} i believe jaso will go green...but risky
[07:08] {magoo} and needs mkt
[07:09] {magoo} like 100 shares on a pullbk
[07:11] {dino} midd
[07:13] {dino} missed it
[07:13] {dino} nvda rinsed
[07:14] {cosmo} AMAT tests .25 soon
[07:14] {cosmo} i think
[07:14] {Threei} it's valid as long as it stays above 19
[07:19] {esemde} I think the market just might end up being up by end of the day......hmmmmm
[07:19] {dino} hl s midd .99
[07:19] {Threei} easy
[07:19] {magoo} not on friday imho
[07:20] {cosmo} not on sunday, i thot
[07:20] {magoo} ok that it cos lol
[07:20] * magoo slaps cosmo around a bit with a large trout
[07:20] {Roman} WM is a short small
[07:21] {Roman} 20.25
[07:21] {esemde} i think it's gonna set itself up for the famous..."Christmas Rally"
[07:23] {esemde} just a feeling i have ....
[07:23] {dino} cov midd .54, +.45
[07:24] {dino} lucky
[07:24] {dino} never wanted it forgot order
[07:25] {dino} round 2 nvda l .75
[07:26] {dino} nvda tear down that wall
[07:26] {esemde} go getum dino.....
[07:26] {esemde} nice setup
[07:26] {magoo} PCLN retarded
[07:26] {dino} ,80 a problem
[07:27] {magoo} blows my mind how these stox won't fall off 20 points
[07:27] {magoo} just buy pcln today anywhere any price..it will never ever pullbk again
[07:27] {dino} as magoo kicks his computer
[07:28] {Threei} nice spike NVDA
[07:28] {Threei} gotta be quick on it today
[07:29] {magoo} bruce..i betr u could stop PCLN
[07:30] {cosmo} amat
[07:30] {bruce} you may be right mags
[07:34] {esemde} PCLN nice move on that one...
[07:34] {Threei} AMAT looks better and better
[07:35] {cosmo} looks ready
[07:35] {dino} out nvda .58, -.17
[07:36] {magoo} amat full lot vad?
[07:36] {Roman} cover WM +.38
[07:36] {Threei} if 25 cents stop fits to full lot
[07:36] {Threei} liquidity wise it's fine
[07:36] {magoo} liq was what i meant
[07:37] {dino} petd
[07:37] {Threei} reported earnings earlier
[07:37] {Threei} come on AMAT
[07:38] {Threei} you know you want it
[07:38] {Threei} yes
[07:38] {cosmo} hmm...you should do that more
[07:38] {Threei} lol
[07:38] {cosmo} :)
[07:41] {magoo} say it again vad
[07:42] {Threei} XMSR
[07:43] {Threei} HEARING STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO FTC INVESTIGATION CLOSED WITHOUT ANY ACTION CONCERNING CUSTOMER SERVICES PRACTICES
[07:44] {dino} risky s petd .37
[07:46] {dino} cov petd .71, +.66
[07:46] {dino} is anyone having fun w/this?
[07:46] {dino} c'mon
[07:47] {Threei} watch AAPL for bounce
[07:47] {bruce} amat stop to .15 now vad?
[07:47] {Threei} too tight... .09
[07:48] {bruce} k
[07:50] {dino} petd watch again
[07:52] {dino} rimm lod
[07:54] {dino} petd risky hl s .58
[07:56] {dino} bstop to .29
[07:56] {dino} cov slippage .39, +.19
[08:02] {Threei} getting inetrested in ESLR again
[08:03] {dino} petd s hl .02
[08:03] {magoo} mkts still falling vad
[08:03] {Threei} yes
[08:04] {Threei} in
[08:04] {Threei} .65 stop
[08:06] {magoo} nice
[08:07] {Threei} easy 1:1, but I got a bit greedy probaly
[08:08] {Threei} anyway, stop to .75
[08:08] {Threei} risk is minimal
[08:12] {bruce} stopped amat
[08:13] {bruce} 3 losses in row - done for day again andf back to red for month
[08:13] {bruce} rats
[08:13] {dino} ouch
[08:13] {Threei} hmm}
[08:14] {Threei} how can 3 trades overshoot several winning days?
[08:14] {bruce} 3 winning days
[08:14] {bruce} 2 losing
[08:15] {bruce} most winning days I only win by 1 or two trades
[08:15] {bruce} so 3 losses in row cancels more than one day
[08:16] {Threei} I am pretty sure our calls are better than that bruce... something in your selection process
[08:16] {Threei} out 3/4 ESLR .12
[08:17] {Threei} +.27
[08:18] {Threei} .89 stop for the last portion, no lose territory
[08:19] {dino} petd stopped -.42
[08:21] {Roman} LEAP
[08:22] {Roman} new low
[08:22] {Roman} was at $35 in premarket tho
[08:26] {Threei} out ESLR balance .20
[08:30] {magoo} nice vad
[08:31] {magoo} still in AMAT?
[08:31] {Threei} nope
[08:32] {magoo} thats why i ask :)
[08:32] {magoo} was away from desk
[08:33] {magoo} was it stopped vad or profit?
[08:33] {Threei} stopped
[08:33] {magoo} ty
[08:35] {Threei} fresh IPO, APEI
[08:35] {dino} l hl rimm 115.00
[08:38] {Threei} 32 break long small shares if stays above 31.50
[08:39] {magoo} prob not marginable
[08:40] {magoo} gotta staw away
[08:40] {dino} out flat
[08:40] {magoo} thanx for alerting IPO
[08:46] {dino} rimm l hl .71
[08:47] {magoo} DINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:47] {magoo} vad ESLR
[08:48] {Threei} I;ll stay away here
[08:48] {magoo} me too thren'
[08:55] {Threei} KLAC looks interesting
[08:55] {Threei} .20 break
[08:55] {Threei} half lot, a bit on a thin side
[08:55] {dino} out rimm .,15, +.44
[08:56] {esemde} PSPT...1min chart setup up against highs
[08:59] {Threei} BIOS is totally oblivious to the market
[08:59] {esemde} i'll say....
[08:59] {Threei} I skipped long entry on 52 high break earlier, considering it high chance for a fake breakout during such selloffs
[09:00] {Threei} who knew it cares not :)
[09:18] {bruce} I'm going to call it a week guys
[09:18] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:18] {bruce} good luck w your trading
[09:18] {Roman} SWHC
[09:18] {Roman} take care bruce
[09:18] {bruce} see you monday
[09:19] {Roman} SWHC mentioned on CNBC
[09:21] {dino} rimm l .50
[09:22] {magoo} going for KLAC here vad?
[09:23] {esemde} seems like at the slightest up turn in the markets stocks just seems to jump...at least on my screens anyway....almost like there just looking for an excuse
[09:23] {Threei} yes mags
[09:23] {esemde} ie MPEL
[09:25] {esemde} MPEL whoa.....
[09:26] {dino} out .74, +.24
[09:37] {Threei} feel free to take KLAC profit
[09:38] {Threei} 30 cents is 30 cents
[09:38] {Threei} (and not 20 or 40)
[09:39] {hawkfan4} thx vad, nice one
[09:39] {dino} rimm l .33
[09:43] {dino} bad entry cut it-.30
[10:20] {Threei} EBAY
[10:20] {Threei} long here half lot
[10:20] {Threei} .54 stop
[10:32] {dino} midd waking
[10:33] {Threei} market loses ground a bit
[10:33] {Threei} stop to .59
[10:47] {esemde} have a good long weekend everyone...... see ya next week
[10:47] {Threei} take care ese
[10:47] {esemde} see ya Vad
[10:47] {dptl} long weekend?
[10:48] {esemde} remembrance day in Canada
[10:48] {esemde} are markets open in the US on monday?
[10:48] {dptl} o...i see
[10:59] {patience} vad, cnd markets are open monday, settlement date deferred. banks themselves closed.
[11:00] {Threei} us markets don't even know there is a holiday in canada... :)
[11:03] {Chaeron} US markets are open - not bonds tho
[11:15] {cosmo} MDRX
[11:15] {dino} austin powers on "e"
[11:17] {dino} rimm l off of 116
[11:18] {dino} no trigger
[11:21] {dino} ok
[11:21] {magoo} i have an appt
[11:22] {magoo} see u all monday
[11:22] {magoo} ty vad
[11:22] {Threei} take care magoo
[11:27] {dino} out 117 +1.00
[11:30] {Chaeron} dang nice dino
[11:31] {dino} thx
[11:31] {dino} aa6 going to hold/
[11:31] {dino} 116
[11:31] {dino} nope
[11:34] {dino} proj
[11:35] {dino} ptry
[11:43] {dino} gonna go green
[11:44] {cosmo} damn pace car
[11:45] {cosmo} MDRX hod = 18.56 fwiw
[11:46] {dino} ocnf hl l .36
[11:51] {dino} wow midd
[11:56] {Threei} I doubt I would push anything more today guys
[11:57] {Threei} let's have a rest and relax over weekend,
[11:57] {Threei} that was a good week, quite intense
[11:57] {dino} indeed sir, indeed
[11:57] {Threei} fantastic job on your part dino
[11:58] {Threei} have a good weekend all, see you on Monday
[11:58] {dino} ty, got lucky w/market moves
[11:58] {dptl} have a good weekend:)
[11:58] {dino} u2 dp, vad
[11:59] {dino} still have to get rid of ocnf, stop is .09
[12:37] {dino} ocnf stopped .31, -.05. calling it a day/week. thx all
Session Time: Fri Nov 09 00:00:00 2007
[05:17] {magoo} morn RT
[05:31] {bruce} morning magoo
[05:31] {bruce} morning all
[05:31] {hawkfan4} morning mags, all
[05:34] {magoo} morn hawk, bruce
[05:34] {magoo} today gonna be a wild ride
[05:34] {cosmo} MDRX
[05:35] {bruce} volatile yesterday?
[05:35] {cosmo} MDRXmisses...warns too
[05:35] {magoo} cos, news on JASO? killing it
[05:36] {cosmo} hmm
[05:36] {cosmo} [audio] JA SOLAR HOLDINGS CO LTD Earnings Conference Call (happening now)
[05:36] {cosmo} JA Solar 3rd-quarter profit rises, raises outlook
[05:36] {cosmo} at Reuters (Fri 8:07am)
[05:37] {magoo} 75 start of premkt
[05:37] {cosmo} profits?
[05:38] {Threei} Good morning
[05:38] {Threei} [JASO] JA Solar Holdings Reports Q3 $0.47 v $0.36e; R $113.4M v $99.7Me
[05:38] {Threei} -Raises FY07 production outlook to 120MW from 110Mw, Sees Revenues $320-330M v $312.5Me
[05:38] {Threei} -Expects to reach production capacity of 425MW/year by FYE 2008 (Current capacity is approx 175MW)
[05:39] {magoo} morn vad
[05:39] {Threei} hi mags
[05:39] {Threei} don't know what they said in that call on JASO
[05:40] {Threei} but selling seems horribly overdsone
[05:40] {magoo} bouncer
[05:40] {magoo} 75 premkt open
[05:45] {bruce} morn vad
[05:46] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:49] {Threei} missed one of the best days yesterday bruce
[05:49] {magoo} nice vad :)
[05:50] {Threei} I think dino made his yearly goal in one day :)
[05:50] {dptl} good morning all
[05:50] {Threei} dp :)
[05:51] {bruce} great
[05:51] {bruce} figured that would happen vad
[05:51] {Threei} new wave of selling JASO
[05:51] {Threei} what the
[05:53] {Threei} it trades as if they were all drunk in that conference call, and instead of answring questions were just giggling and flipping birds
[05:54] {magoo} must be reason posteed somewhere
[05:54] {magoo} this is nuts
[05:55] {bruce} hello dp
[05:55] {Threei} nothing is posted, it's something that is being said in cc
[05:55] {magoo} aren't u listening to the call he he?
[05:55] {Threei} lol
[05:55] {Threei} sure... that's exactly my idea of Friday morning
[05:56] {Threei} look at that
[05:56] {Threei} bid it at $1
[05:56] {Threei} at such rate you should get filled in 10 minutes
[05:56] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:57] {esemde} morning all....
[05:58] {bruce} hello ese
[05:58] {esemde} mornin bruce
[06:02] {Threei} ese :)
[06:05] {Threei} should pull back a bit now, then continue recovery
[06:06] {Threei} if something was misinterpreted, recovery will be big
[06:12] {Threei} pullback feels done
[06:12] {esemde} i need to be fired by CITI group...29mil severance..corner office..car/driver for 5 yrs.benefits....what a drap not being liked
[06:12] {magoo} solar correct?
[06:12] {Threei} lol ese
[06:12] {magoo} chineses solar vad?
[06:12] {Threei} probably
[06:13] {Threei} grabbed a little 56.30
[06:13] {magoo} your commebnt yesterday, remember?
[06:13] {Threei} out 57.90
[06:14] {Threei} about china+solar? :)
[06:14] {Threei} yeah... surefire recipe :)
[06:15] {cosmo} AMAT 18.90 pre mkt high fwiw
[06:15] {Threei} AMAT has something to do with solars too if I am not mistaken
[06:16] {Raven} AMAT analyst upgrade
[06:16] {Raven} and ... yes ... solar
[06:16] {cosmo} they buy out the smaller ones at some point...right?
[06:16] {Raven} (but don't tell) :)
[06:17] {Raven} AMAT - $19.15 pre high here cosmoski
[06:17] {esemde} hush hush...
[06:17] {cosmo} ah...thx
[06:18] {cosmo} needs to hold .65 imo
[06:18] {Raven} gap down to $18.07
[06:19] {cosmo} when?
[06:19] {Raven} yesterday high 18.07
[06:19] {cosmo} k
[06:23] {bruce} leap
[06:23] {Threei} LEAP restated 2006 earnings, cut by two brokers
[06:25] {dino} gm all
[06:25] {Threei} dino :)
[06:27] {dino} :)
[06:29] {bruce} hi dino
[06:29] {bruce} hear you nailed it yesterday
[06:31] {dino} good day yes
[06:31] {bruce} congrats
[06:32] {Threei} watching OMNI
[06:33] {dino} ty
[06:35] {Threei} AMAT .25 long half lot
[06:38] {Threei} ESLR bounce candidate off 14
[06:38] {Threei} watch NQ for guidance
[06:39] {bruce} amat invalid for now?
[06:39] {Threei} rather bounce play
[06:40] {Threei} in ESLR
[06:40] {magoo} missed
[06:40] {magoo} fast
[06:41] {dino} risky hl l rimm 117.50
[06:41] {esemde} bounce play Vad
[06:41] {Threei} half out .25
[06:42] {Threei} stop 13.99
[06:42] {Threei} missed AMAT entry 'cause of ESLR :)
[06:42] {bruce} missed them both
[06:42] {Threei} ESLR gave second chance
[06:43] {magoo} yeah
[06:43] {bruce} what waws initial stop eslr - looks about 13.65?
[06:43] {magoo} thought it was goin lower
[06:43] {Threei} nah, wouldn't let it go that low
[06:44] {bruce} k- that was first support I saw
[06:44] {magoo} i went on orig call
[06:44] {Threei} [09:38] {Threei} watch NQ for guidance
[06:45] {Threei} NQ continued dropping at the moment, ESLR recovered when NQ started bounce
[06:45] {Threei} out in full .50
[06:46] {magoo} nice boss:)
[06:46] {Threei} not delighted by AMAT here
[06:46] {Threei} waiting for it to form something more clear
[06:48] {Threei} wow
[06:48] {dino} out rimm 119.00 +1.50
[06:48] {dino} too soon
[06:48] {Threei} this NQ spike made my exit look dismall :)
[06:48] {Threei} welcome to the club dino
[06:48] {Threei} but this is friday
[06:48] {Threei} let's take our scalps and be happy
[06:49] {esemde} still........good work dino
[06:49] {Threei} anything can happen today
[06:49] {dino} thx guys
[06:49] {esemde} and probably will
[06:49] {Threei} I will be equally unsirprized to see +100 or -100 day for NQ
[06:49] {magoo} l jaso .49
[06:50] {magoo} out 1 [point
[06:50] {magoo} fast
[06:50] {magoo} too fast to post..uin 62.49..out 63.35
[06:51] {Threei} AMAT... range is being established so far
[06:51] {Threei} 19 - 19.25
[06:53] {magoo} dow down 169
[06:55] {dino} lod's dow
[06:55] {dino} new lows
[06:55] {magoo} its friday..could get ugly
[06:55] {magoo} bidu is literally down 90 points in 3 sessions
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[07:08] {magoo} i believe jaso will go green...but risky
[07:08] {magoo} and needs mkt
[07:09] {magoo} like 100 shares on a pullbk
[07:11] {dino} midd
[07:13] {dino} missed it
[07:13] {dino} nvda rinsed
[07:14] {cosmo} AMAT tests .25 soon
[07:14] {cosmo} i think
[07:14] {Threei} it's valid as long as it stays above 19
[07:19] {esemde} I think the market just might end up being up by end of the day......hmmmmm
[07:19] {dino} hl s midd .99
[07:19] {Threei} easy
[07:19] {magoo} not on friday imho
[07:20] {cosmo} not on sunday, i thot
[07:20] {magoo} ok that it cos lol
[07:20] * magoo slaps cosmo around a bit with a large trout
[07:20] {Roman} WM is a short small
[07:21] {Roman} 20.25
[07:21] {esemde} i think it's gonna set itself up for the famous..."Christmas Rally"
[07:23] {esemde} just a feeling i have ....
[07:23] {dino} cov midd .54, +.45
[07:24] {dino} lucky
[07:24] {dino} never wanted it forgot order
[07:25] {dino} round 2 nvda l .75
[07:26] {dino} nvda tear down that wall
[07:26] {esemde} go getum dino.....
[07:26] {esemde} nice setup
[07:26] {magoo} PCLN retarded
[07:26] {dino} ,80 a problem
[07:27] {magoo} blows my mind how these stox won't fall off 20 points
[07:27] {magoo} just buy pcln today anywhere any price..it will never ever pullbk again
[07:27] {dino} as magoo kicks his computer
[07:28] {Threei} nice spike NVDA
[07:28] {Threei} gotta be quick on it today
[07:29] {magoo} bruce..i betr u could stop PCLN
[07:30] {cosmo} amat
[07:30] {bruce} you may be right mags
[07:34] {esemde} PCLN nice move on that one...
[07:34] {Threei} AMAT looks better and better
[07:35] {cosmo} looks ready
[07:35] {dino} out nvda .58, -.17
[07:36] {magoo} amat full lot vad?
[07:36] {Roman} cover WM +.38
[07:36] {Threei} if 25 cents stop fits to full lot
[07:36] {Threei} liquidity wise it's fine
[07:36] {magoo} liq was what i meant
[07:37] {dino} petd
[07:37] {Threei} reported earnings earlier
[07:37] {Threei} come on AMAT
[07:38] {Threei} you know you want it
[07:38] {Threei} yes
[07:38] {cosmo} hmm...you should do that more
[07:38] {Threei} lol
[07:38] {cosmo} :)
[07:41] {magoo} say it again vad
[07:42] {Threei} XMSR
[07:43] {Threei} HEARING STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO FTC INVESTIGATION CLOSED WITHOUT ANY ACTION CONCERNING CUSTOMER SERVICES PRACTICES
[07:44] {dino} risky s petd .37
[07:46] {dino} cov petd .71, +.66
[07:46] {dino} is anyone having fun w/this?
[07:46] {dino} c'mon
[07:47] {Threei} watch AAPL for bounce
[07:47] {bruce} amat stop to .15 now vad?
[07:47] {Threei} too tight... .09
[07:48] {bruce} k
[07:50] {dino} petd watch again
[07:52] {dino} rimm lod
[07:54] {dino} petd risky hl s .58
[07:56] {dino} bstop to .29
[07:56] {dino} cov slippage .39, +.19
[08:02] {Threei} getting inetrested in ESLR again
[08:03] {dino} petd s hl .02
[08:03] {magoo} mkts still falling vad
[08:03] {Threei} yes
[08:04] {Threei} in
[08:04] {Threei} .65 stop
[08:06] {magoo} nice
[08:07] {Threei} easy 1:1, but I got a bit greedy probaly
[08:08] {Threei} anyway, stop to .75
[08:08] {Threei} risk is minimal
[08:12] {bruce} stopped amat
[08:13] {bruce} 3 losses in row - done for day again andf back to red for month
[08:13] {bruce} rats
[08:13] {dino} ouch
[08:13] {Threei} hmm}
[08:14] {Threei} how can 3 trades overshoot several winning days?
[08:14] {bruce} 3 winning days
[08:14] {bruce} 2 losing
[08:15] {bruce} most winning days I only win by 1 or two trades
[08:15] {bruce} so 3 losses in row cancels more than one day
[08:16] {Threei} I am pretty sure our calls are better than that bruce... something in your selection process
[08:16] {Threei} out 3/4 ESLR .12
[08:17] {Threei} +.27
[08:18] {Threei} .89 stop for the last portion, no lose territory
[08:19] {dino} petd stopped -.42
[08:21] {Roman} LEAP
[08:22] {Roman} new low
[08:22] {Roman} was at $35 in premarket tho
[08:26] {Threei} out ESLR balance .20
[08:30] {magoo} nice vad
[08:31] {magoo} still in AMAT?
[08:31] {Threei} nope
[08:32] {magoo} thats why i ask :)
[08:32] {magoo} was away from desk
[08:33] {magoo} was it stopped vad or profit?
[08:33] {Threei} stopped
[08:33] {magoo} ty
[08:35] {Threei} fresh IPO, APEI
[08:35] {dino} l hl rimm 115.00
[08:38] {Threei} 32 break long small shares if stays above 31.50
[08:39] {magoo} prob not marginable
[08:40] {magoo} gotta staw away
[08:40] {dino} out flat
[08:40] {magoo} thanx for alerting IPO
[08:46] {dino} rimm l hl .71
[08:47] {magoo} DINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:47] {magoo} vad ESLR
[08:48] {Threei} I;ll stay away here
[08:48] {magoo} me too thren'
[08:55] {Threei} KLAC looks interesting
[08:55] {Threei} .20 break
[08:55] {Threei} half lot, a bit on a thin side
[08:55] {dino} out rimm .,15, +.44
[08:56] {esemde} PSPT...1min chart setup up against highs
[08:59] {Threei} BIOS is totally oblivious to the market
[08:59] {esemde} i'll say....
[08:59] {Threei} I skipped long entry on 52 high break earlier, considering it high chance for a fake breakout during such selloffs
[09:00] {Threei} who knew it cares not :)
[09:18] {bruce} I'm going to call it a week guys
[09:18] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:18] {bruce} good luck w your trading
[09:18] {Roman} SWHC
[09:18] {Roman} take care bruce
[09:18] {bruce} see you monday
[09:19] {Roman} SWHC mentioned on CNBC
[09:21] {dino} rimm l .50
[09:22] {magoo} going for KLAC here vad?
[09:23] {esemde} seems like at the slightest up turn in the markets stocks just seems to jump...at least on my screens anyway....almost like there just looking for an excuse
[09:23] {Threei} yes mags
[09:23] {esemde} ie MPEL
[09:25] {esemde} MPEL whoa.....
[09:26] {dino} out .74, +.24
[09:37] {Threei} feel free to take KLAC profit
[09:38] {Threei} 30 cents is 30 cents
[09:38] {Threei} (and not 20 or 40)
[09:39] {hawkfan4} thx vad, nice one
[09:39] {dino} rimm l .33
[09:43] {dino} bad entry cut it-.30
[10:20] {Threei} EBAY
[10:20] {Threei} long here half lot
[10:20] {Threei} .54 stop
[10:32] {dino} midd waking
[10:33] {Threei} market loses ground a bit
[10:33] {Threei} stop to .59
[10:47] {esemde} have a good long weekend everyone...... see ya next week
[10:47] {Threei} take care ese
[10:47] {esemde} see ya Vad
[10:47] {dptl} long weekend?
[10:48] {esemde} remembrance day in Canada
[10:48] {esemde} are markets open in the US on monday?
[10:48] {dptl} o...i see
[10:59] {patience} vad, cnd markets are open monday, settlement date deferred. banks themselves closed.
[11:00] {Threei} us markets don't even know there is a holiday in canada... :)
[11:03] {Chaeron} US markets are open - not bonds tho
[11:15] {cosmo} MDRX
[11:15] {dino} austin powers on "e"
[11:17] {dino} rimm l off of 116
[11:18] {dino} no trigger
[11:21] {dino} ok
[11:21] {magoo} i have an appt
[11:22] {magoo} see u all monday
[11:22] {magoo} ty vad
[11:22] {Threei} take care magoo
[11:27] {dino} out 117 +1.00
[11:30] {Chaeron} dang nice dino
[11:31] {dino} thx
[11:31] {dino} aa6 going to hold/
[11:31] {dino} 116
[11:31] {dino} nope
[11:34] {dino} proj
[11:35] {dino} ptry
[11:43] {dino} gonna go green
[11:44] {cosmo} damn pace car
[11:45] {cosmo} MDRX hod = 18.56 fwiw
[11:46] {dino} ocnf hl l .36
[11:51] {dino} wow midd
[11:56] {Threei} I doubt I would push anything more today guys
[11:57] {Threei} let's have a rest and relax over weekend,
[11:57] {Threei} that was a good week, quite intense
[11:57] {dino} indeed sir, indeed
[11:57] {Threei} fantastic job on your part dino
[11:58] {Threei} have a good weekend all, see you on Monday
[11:58] {dino} ty, got lucky w/market moves
[11:58] {dptl} have a good weekend:)
[11:58] {dino} u2 dp, vad
[11:59] {dino} still have to get rid of ocnf, stop is .09
[12:37] {dino} ocnf stopped .31, -.05. calling it a day/week. thx all
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