Session Time: Mon Mar 24 00:00:00 2008
[08:27] {Onix} Good morning
[08:28] {Threei} morning Onix
[09:03] {Threei} BSC offer is getting upped to 10
[09:04] {Threei} rarely do you see such an open robbery
[09:05] {GeoArb} gm all
[09:05] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:06] {magoo} morning
[09:06] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:09] {lumdus} vad, what i thought all along. and now there will be happys seller ofbsc shares. it was obvious that this will go up from the 4.00 point
[09:09] {lumdus} you didn't like my analysis but i told you i know how to write for the WSJ :)
[09:11] {Threei} I didn't like? I thought I told you to go right ahead and write for them :)
[09:12] {lumdus} but you didn't follow my analysis to buy and hold it.. did you ?
[09:12] {Threei} I don't buy and hold
[09:12] {lumdus} vad, you don't buy and hold, you don't buy bb stocks.. maybe you need to change your lifestyle ?
[09:12] {Threei} or maybe I don't? :)
[09:13] {Threei} my current one works for me alright
[09:13] {lumdus} but improving is always good. you know if you have a million dollar you want 2
[09:14] {Threei} yeah, I guess... but ashes of those who bought and held BSC in 80s knock in my heart
[09:14] {dino} gm all
[09:14] {Threei} dino :)
[09:15] {dptl} good morning all
[09:15] {hawkfan4} morning all
[09:15] {Threei} dp, hawk :)
[09:19] {Threei} I don't want even to start imagining how BSC holders who sold around 2 feel now
[09:20] {Threei} and who is to say 10 is final offer
[09:20] {cosmo} yea...wait until its priced in ameros...
[09:21] {dino} how would you like to be a short
[09:21] {lumdus} so the hedge funds who bought at 5.00 thinking they losing money just so they can vote are making millions now.
[09:21] {bruce} morning dino- watching crzo as possible reversal candidate
[09:22] {dino} oil co
[09:22] {Threei} I wouldn't dino, lol
[09:22] {dino} watch oih w/it imo
[09:22] {bruce} k
[09:23] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[09:23] {Threei} good morning to you too bruce
[09:24] {bruce} thats for not buying 50 k of bsc
[09:24] {Threei} well deserved
[09:24] {bruce} fwitsw - I wouldn't buy it either
[09:24] {bruce} lums on own
[09:24] {Threei} oh, then here is what is in order:
[09:24] * Threei slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[09:24] {bruce} lol
[09:24] {Threei} :)
[09:25] {Threei} so what's next. TMA going back to 5?
[09:25] {Threei} notice that BSC went above 10 earlier
[09:26] {Threei} there are probably speculators believing 10 is not final
[09:26] {cosmo} IDCC: said on Monday it was in settlement talks with leading cell-phone maker Nokia (NOK1V.HE: Quote, Profile, Research) and that the companies have made substantial progress toward resolving all of their disputes.
[09:26] {GeoArb} rumor jp bidding higher?
[09:26] {Threei} 10 so far Geo
[09:30] {Threei} BSC HALTED, NEWS PENDING
[09:31] {magoo} what a f job that is now
[09:32] {bruce} aaqpl dpoing its jump out of gate thing again
[09:32] {bruce} aapl
[09:32] {Threei} TMA heard me or what
[09:32] {magoo} u in tma?
[09:32] {Threei} no
[09:34] {Threei} watching LLTC
[09:34] {lumdus} in amzn 73.33 stop lod
[09:34] {bruce} yhoo forming beak pattern vad
[09:35] {Threei} LLTC .50 long if holding above .35
[09:35] {lumdus} vad, now that bsc is halted what do i do ?
[09:35] {Threei} ?
[09:35] {Threei} what can you do but wait for it to open
[09:35] {lumdus} does that mean it's bad or it's good ?
[09:35] {magoo} offer sacrifices to the trading gods
[09:36] {Threei} depends on what the news is
[09:36] {curtisweese} good i think...if you hold below 10
[09:36] {curtisweese} hopefully
[09:36] {GeoArb} probably good as rumor is jp upping offer
[09:36] {lumdus} as long as it doesn't go back to 4.50 i make money
[09:36] {Threei} if they say 10 or higher, great... if they say no deal, bad...
[09:36] {magoo} look AAPL vad
[09:36] {lumdus} you think it could go below $4.50 ? ouch !
[09:36] {Threei} I don't think lum
[09:37] {Threei} we just don't know what is going to be said
[09:37] {Threei} AAPl is bounce scalp mags
[09:37] {Threei} LLTC getting ready
[09:37] {lumdus} oh well amzn -.15 for me.. starting off on the wrong foot here.
[09:38] {magoo} in vad
[09:38] {lumdus} long lltc .49
[09:38] {Threei} stop for scalpers .39
[09:38] {Threei} for sane traders .34
[09:39] {magoo} out aapl /.34, + .40
[09:39] {magoo} ty vad
[09:39] {Threei} nice way to start week mags
[09:39] {lumdus} why out aapl. can break hod
[09:40] {Threei} LLTC scalpers have 1:1
[09:40] {lumdus} stop on aapl 134.20 ?
[09:40] {magoo} just scalping Lum'
[09:40] {Threei} yes if you hold lum
[09:40] {lumdus} lltc b/e stop
[09:42] {Threei} 1:2 LLTC, half out at least
[09:43] {lumdus} stop on aapl 134.40 -- don't want to risk to much there.
[09:43] {dptl} ty lltc +.10...+.20
[09:44] {Threei} welcome
[09:44] {lumdus} just having a hard time scalping today.
[09:44] {magoo} out LLTC TY vad
[09:44] {Threei} :)
[09:44] {dino} sm l crzo .00
[09:45] {lumdus} stop lltc 31.53
[09:45] {lumdus} can't get myself to sell anyting yet.
[09:46] {lumdus} out lltc 31.65 thank you vad
[09:47] {Threei} JBHT small shares long with stop under .40
[09:48] {Threei} no worky
[09:49] {curtisweese} aapl is a big buy right now looks like
[09:49] {curtisweese} nev mind...jumped
[09:49] {magoo} maybe RIMM bounce
[09:49] {lumdus} curtis i got stopped out .42
[09:50] {curtisweese} you were still holding? i already bought and sold twice...lol
[09:50] {magoo} lum, on AAPL?
[09:50] {lumdus} yes magoo
[09:50] {Threei} BSC JP MORGAN ANNOUNCING A REVISED MERGER AGREEMENT
[09:50] {lumdus} aapl crap !
[09:50] {magoo} 12 vbux a share
[09:51] {magoo} guess
[09:51] {lumdus} so does that mean bsc will start trading soon higher or lower ?
[09:51] {magoo} on CNBC now
[09:51] {Threei} AGREEMENT FOR JPM TO PURCHASE 39.5% OF BSC
[09:52] {curtisweese} out aapl again.....gonna buy back in if it dips down to .40
[09:52] {Threei} VLNC broker Fri high
[09:52] {curtisweese} nice!
[09:53] {Threei} broke
[09:54] {lumdus} vlnc was 1.50 on jan 08 and now 4.60
[09:54] {curtisweese} waiting for aapl drop here for a buy for me.....40
[09:54] {Threei} called it as a swing trade twice
[09:55] {Threei} details are coming in
[09:55] {Threei} - Under the revised terms, each share of Bear Stearns common stock would be exchanged for 0.21753 shares of JPMorgan Chase common stock (up from 0.05473 shares), reflecting an implied value of approximately $10 per share of Bear Stearns common stock based on the closing price of JPMorgan Chase common stock on the New York Stock Exchange on March 20, 2008.
[09:55] {Threei} - The Federal Reserve Bank of New York''s $30B special financing associated with the transaction has also been amended so that JPMorgan Chase will bear the first $1B of any losses associated with the Bear Stearns assets being financed and the Fed will fund the remaining $29B on a non-recourse basis to JPMorgan Chase.
[09:56] {curtisweese} l aapl 134.50 stop 134.18 or so for me
[09:56] {Threei} - CEO: "We believe the amended terms are fair to all sides and reflect the value and risks of the Bear Stearns franchise, and bring more certainty for our respective shareholders, clients, and the marketplace. We look forward to a prompt closing and being able to operate as one company."
[09:57] {curtisweese} here it goes :)
[09:57] {curtisweese} or not
[09:59] {Threei} LULU small shares long .50, stop under .25
[09:59] {magoo} OOOYYYYYYY
[10:00] {Threei} BSC open
[10:00] {Threei} *FEB EXISTING HOME SALES: 5.03M V 4.85ME
[10:00] {curtisweese} nice lum, you were holding lower than 10 right?
[10:01] {curtisweese} moved aapl stop up to 134.60.....break hod...come on!!!
[10:01] {lumdus} done with bsc
[10:01] {curtisweese} break 135...goooooooooooo
[10:02] {curtisweese} raised stop on aapl to 134.90
[10:02] {Threei} MF
[10:02] {Threei} HEARING POSITIVE CHATTER CIRCULATING
[10:03] {curtisweese} aapl stop raised to 135.20
[10:03] {Threei} LULU hit 1:1
[10:03] {Threei} MF - Chatter surrounds possible refinancing for $1B bridge loan from Morgan Stanley
[10:03] {magoo} what entry LULU u get?
[10:03] {Threei} .40
[10:04] {Threei} even though send arder at .50
[10:04] {dptl} out lulu+.30 ty
[10:04] {Threei} there was hidden order obviously
[10:04] {dino} all is right in the world again
[10:04] {Threei} welcome dp
[10:04] {Threei} LULU 1:3
[10:05] {curtisweese} aapl stop to 135.30
[10:05] {Threei} MF moved
[10:05] {curtisweese} .40
[10:06] {curtisweese} out aapl made $.90
[10:07] {Threei} nice
[10:07] {curtisweese} 2x goal for today.....hmmmm....last time i lost after being up 2x as i didn't quit....need to re-evaluate
[10:08] {bruce} su looks like long candidagte to me dino
[10:09] {Threei} curtis
[10:09] {Threei} here is suggestion for you
[10:09] {Threei} put a trailing stop on your account
[10:09] {Threei} let's say at the goal level
[10:09] {Threei} and trade half of your usual shares from now on,
[10:09] {Threei} if fall back to 1 x goal, stop trading for the day
[10:10] {curtisweese} hmmm...okay....yeah...that is a good plan....i need the discipline to not give it back!
[10:10] {Threei} you trade for profits, so protect them
[10:11] {dino} exactlllllyyyyyy
[10:12] {Threei} and if you trade for excitement, I'd suggest to think of alternative source for that so market remains what it should be - source of profit
[10:12] {Threei} GRMN buyout chatter
[10:12] {Threei} who would possibly buy it
[10:12] {GeoArb} nokia
[10:12] {dino} i would
[10:13] {Threei} have a look at BSC
[10:14] {Threei} game is not over it seems
[10:14] {curtisweese} man, i got out of aapl, way too early.....sigh
[10:15] {dino} out crzo .99, +.99, ty bruce
[10:15] {bruce} welcome dino
[10:15] {curtisweese} s aapl 136.34 scalp and then buy back coming...lol
[10:16] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .19
[10:16] {curtisweese} jeez, what is up with msft?
[10:18] {Threei} BSC, any bet on what the next offer is going to be at?
[10:18] {Threei} new 52 week highs VLNC
[10:19] {magoo} [09:51] {magoo} 12 vbux a share
[10:19] {magoo} [09:51] {magoo} guess
[10:19] {magoo} [09:51] {lumdus} so does
[10:19] {curtisweese} msft DOWN today?
[10:20] {Threei} doesn't look cheerful, MSFT
[10:20] {Threei} lol BSC
[10:21] {curtisweese} s aapl 136.29
[10:22] {curtisweese} out aapl short made $.26
[10:22] {Threei} 12 is behind mags... next guess? :)
[10:23] {Threei} I mean 13 is behind
[10:23] {Threei} I mean... ah never mind
[10:24] {magoo} i can't believe its avail short
[10:24] {Threei} I can't believe anything happening with it
[10:25] {curtisweese} do we buy bsc and get another 2% or something?
[10:25] {curtisweese} or do we lose $2?
[10:25] {Threei} I have no idea
[10:25] {curtisweese} seems crazy
[10:25] {Threei} this is not a stock trading with any kind of readability
[10:26] {Chaeron} GM all
[10:26] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:27] {magoo} chaer:)
[10:27] {curtisweese} s aapl 137.54
[10:30] {bruce} mon short dino?
[10:30] {curtisweese} out aapl short....lost .08
[10:32] {cosmo} IDCC@23
[10:32] {cosmo} lets see...
[10:33] {Threei} if you for some wierd reason are interested inj BSC, moment to try it for bounce is somewhere here
[10:33] {dino} mon yes, just where? .84ish
[10:34] {bruce} yes - probably
[10:34] {bruce} fxp possible long bounce near here dino
[10:35] {curtisweese} s aapl 138.45 entry....
[10:35] {magoo} TY vad, ouit .54 + .30
[10:35] {Threei} wtg
[10:35] {dino} ultrashort fund fxp careful
[10:35] {curtisweese} out aapl short made. $.41
[10:36] {dino} another 85 pts and have to go short everything
[10:36] {curtisweese} jeez aapl has gone straight up today
[10:37] {magoo} rimm too
[10:38] {dino} fcsx l .04 sm
[10:39] {dino} missed mon
[10:40] {Threei} MBI FITCH COMMENTS ON RATINGS, MAINTAINS IFS DEBT RATINGS FOR 'FORESEEABLE FUTURE'
[10:41] {bruce} your 84 entry woulda been prefect in mon
[10:42] {cosmo} IDCC gonna test..
[10:43] {dino} y, i'm an idiot
[10:43] {dino} waiting at .80
[10:43] {Threei} BVF
[10:43] {Threei} SEC CHARGES BIOVAIL CORP, EXECUTIVES WITH ACCOUNTING FRAUD
[10:45] {bruce} I missed it too - too keyes off it too long
[10:46] {dino} bvf s .99 sm wide, risky
[10:46] {Threei} that's a wierdly huge bounce for such news
[10:46] {Threei} something's not right
[10:47] {dino} saying the same to magoo
[10:47] {dino} should lose 3 bucks
[10:47] {curtisweese} s aapl 137.71 entry for me
[10:47] {dino} settles 10 million
[10:48] {Threei} SETTLES FOR $10M
- SEC: Overstated earnings and hid losses.
[10:48] {Threei} - Former CEO is charged, four executives charged.
[10:50] {curtisweese} die aapl...just for a bit
[10:53] {curtisweese} out aapl short lost .08
[10:54] {Threei} BSC new round of insanity comes it seems
[10:54] {curtisweese} omg...i got out of that short barely too early...crap
[10:56] {dino} fcsx stopped -.32
[10:56] {bruce} yes - sorry dino
[10:57] {lumdus} vad, actually i think anybody who didn't buy 3 - 4 is insane. did anybody really thing that bsc sharholder where going to ok a $2.00 buyout ? of course not - it was pure emotianal from some low baller at jp.
[10:57] {magoo} vad, u not reading RIMM or AApL today??
[10:58] {GeoArb} i guess its a risk apetite thing
[10:58] {bruce} fxp looking long to me now dino - trying to decide where entry would be
[10:59] {curtisweese} l aapl 137.69 stop 137.45
[11:03] {curtisweese} out aapl made $.10
[11:03] {magoo} i still say your commission gotta be killing u curtis
[11:04] {dino} break of .50 my guess
[11:04] {bruce} looks right to me dino - thinking it may back off to 104 even and might be good try there if it does
[11:05] {dino} there it is
[11:05] {Threei} not so far' on RIMM/AAPL mags
[11:06] {bruce} in l 104 25 c stop
[11:08] {curtisweese} i only pay about $7 in and $7 out...doesn't matter how many shares
[11:09] {dino} bvf stopped -.23
[11:11] {dino} sm fwlt s .55
[11:14] {curtisweese} l aapl 138.31 entry tight stop
[11:19] {curtisweese} out made .06
[11:19] {dino} sm s schn .10
[11:19] {bruce} out fxp flat
[11:21] {dino} fwlt bstrop to .15
[11:22] {dino} cov fwlt .12, +.43
[11:24] {Threei} [10:54] {Threei} BSC new round of insanity comes it seems
[11:24] {Threei} insanity it is
[11:25] {Threei} LULU
[11:25] {Threei} another break for small shares .50
[11:26] {Threei} stop under .30
[11:26] {magoo} in
[11:30] {dptl} out lulu+.30 ty
[11:30] {Threei} welcome
[11:31] {Threei} BSC 13 coming?
[11:32] {dino} schn stopped -.47
[11:33] {magoo} ouit LULU TY + .24
[11:33] {curtisweese} lol...i figured we'd be able to get 1 or 2% if we bought in earlier...downside risk was $2 though which is huge
[11:34] {Threei} {BSC} 13? what makes you think I am so cheap?
[11:35] {GeoArb} i am kiling it on trailing on sim
[11:35] {GeoArb} i just wish it wasnt sim :)
[11:36] {GeoArb} i mean sim on rimm
[11:37] {GeoArb} i am coming to the conclusion its better to trade 100 real than sim
[11:37] {GeoArb} i become a sim cowboy
[11:37] {Threei} there is time for everything Geo
[11:37] {Threei} follow the MPP process
[11:37] {GeoArb} darn :)
[11:38] {Threei} it answers the question when to switch to small shares,
[11:38] {Threei} when to start increasing the amount
[11:38] {GeoArb} yeah
[11:38] {GeoArb} i am not increasing it yet
[11:38] {Threei} if you went through the step, why stay with it
[11:38] {GeoArb} its just i am trying out a new platform so switched to sim
[11:39] {GeoArb} and found i take a lot of risks on sim hehe
[11:39] {bruce} eqix possible short dino
[11:39] {curtisweese} l msft 29.18 entry gonna start catching up with market now! I hope i hope lol
[11:41] {curtisweese} msft doesn't like me :(
[11:44] {dino} wow eqix
[11:45] {bruce} yes - big hop - got stopped attempting to short
[11:46] {Threei} BSC took 13 and not stopping
[11:47] {Threei} LULU solidly over 1:1, if anyone is still in, be careful here
[11:50] {Threei} this must be the wierdest takeover in history
[11:50] {Threei} BSC I mean
[11:50] {curtisweese} this is the siri merger...crazy
[11:50] {bruce} eqix may be ready to fade now
[11:50] {curtisweese} they should merge siri and bsc
[11:50] {curtisweese} lol
[11:51] {Threei} that's a tough one
[11:51] {Threei} try to determine the price, lol
[11:51] {Threei} and JPM is likely to take over XMSR in that case?
[11:51] {curtisweese} BSC could collateralize their loans with the air in the airwaves
[11:52] {Threei} S&P RASIES RATING ON BEAR STERNS TO AA- TAKEN OF WATCH LIST
[11:52] {Threei} as if there was not enough confusion as it stood
[11:54] {dino} wanted one more spike bruce
[11:55] {dptl} so..in simple words,can anyone explain me what proshares are?please
[11:55] {dino} etf's
[11:56] {dptl} so it' the same like ndx
[11:56] {dptl} or qqqq
[11:57] {bruce} k dino
[11:57] {curtisweese} double down on msft at 29.10 average cost 29.14 now
[11:57] {dptl} so what is ultra short proshares?
[11:57] {dino} but, i think they use options to "juice" it, usually 2x the move
[11:58] {curtisweese} come on msft...go positive....grrrrrr
[11:58] {dino} eqix sm s .35
[11:59] {bruce} dino - eev possible long- thin
[11:59] {curtisweese} there it goes! run forrest...i mean msft run.....just give me a scalp and i will love you
[12:00] {dino} hmmm dk
[12:00] {dino} iesc?
[12:03] {bruce} yes - iesc looks short- prefer to see it show some weakness
[12:04] {bruce} you still short eqix - looks like it watns more long
[12:05] {dino} y unbfortunately
[12:05] {dino} going to hit my stop
[12:05] {dino} stopped
[12:06] {bruce} sorry - sucks - stopped me too
[12:06] {curtisweese} Curtis has been taken off the watch list.....quit watchin me!
[12:07] {bruce} dxd long on .20 break?
[12:07] {curtisweese} jeez etfc
[12:07] {bruce} forget it - hasn't dropped far enough
[12:08] {dino} ultra short
[12:08] {curtisweese} short bsc? deal gonna close april 8th they say?!!!
[12:08] {dino} dow 30
[12:09] {bruce} k
[12:10] {bruce} fxp may be worth another try long
[12:10] {dino} magoo's killing my diet, he just had chili dogs delivered
[12:10] {bruce} ah shame
[12:11] {bruce} you can always them them down dino
[12:11] {curtisweese} there bsc drops...crap...knew it
[12:11] {bruce} and just watch mags eat em
[12:12] {dino} i can't resist today
[12:13] {magoo} the paulie pak
[12:15] {bruce} personally - I can resist anything except temptation
[12:15] {dino} iesc s .02
[12:17] {curtisweese} finally microsoft gets postive for the day again...jeez!!!! killin me
[12:18] {curtisweese} now if it can just get up 2.88% with the rest of the market...come on!!!
[12:30] {curtisweese} why didn't i just buy aapl and sit on it with a trailing stop....waaaaaa
[12:30] * dptl slaps ThurstonHowellTheThird around a bit with a large trout
[12:30] {dptl} .
[12:36] {dino} sm l fmcn .00
[12:37] {dptl} wierd....slaped Thurston and computer got frozen..
[12:39] {Threei} universe's payback
[12:40] {dptl} looks like:)
[12:40] {bruce} fmcn sto-p at .65 orso dino?
[12:41] {bruce} he's got professor in his corner dp
[12:42] {dino} y
[12:43] {curtisweese} talking heads are pumping rimm right now
[12:44] {Threei} btw guys, follow-up to previous post:
[12:44] {Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2008/03/can-you-afford-to-be-wrong-for-too-long.html
[12:44] {Threei} leave RIMM alone until it consolidates and breaks 112, and go read it
[12:47] {Threei} RIMM becomes good candidate if breaks while holdin'g above .70
[12:48] {magoo} 12 trigger?
[12:48] {Threei} 112
[12:51] {curtisweese} yay...msft is going to break HOD...come on! make me look smart
[12:52] {Threei} lol
[12:52] {Threei} curtis, when you are done with MSFT dcc me please
[12:52] {curtisweese} doh!!! it hit it and bounced off like a rubber ball :(
[12:52] {Threei} ah come on RIMM, trigger already
[12:53] {curtisweese} i break HOD, you break 112...deao
[12:53] {curtisweese} deal i mean
[12:53] {Threei} and don't forget to go to 113 when you do
[12:53] {Threei} 114 won't offend me either
[12:53] {Chaeron} (120)
[12:53] {Threei} that will be rather rude
[12:53] {Threei} since there is no way I would be able to keep it for that long :)
[12:54] {dino} stopped fmcn
[12:54] {Chaeron} shoot
[12:54] {bruce} yes - same dino
[12:54] {Threei} yeah, invalidated for now
[12:55] {bruce} fmcn may bounce long near here
[12:56] {dino} maybe
[12:56] {curtisweese} vad, will you look at msft...should i get out now? i doubled down at 29.10 so my average is about 29.15 at the moment.....it is at top now, so confused on what to ...hahah..i'm usually at bottom
[12:56] {Threei} you know what
[12:56] {curtisweese} my stop is now 29.22
[12:56] {Threei} doubling down is so bad thing to do,
[12:57] {curtisweese} well..there were other reasons
[12:57] {Threei} bounce that makes you even or profitable must be taken as a gift
[12:57] {Threei} and taekn with gratitude
[12:57] {curtisweese} good point
[12:57] {Threei} no matter what happens next
[12:57] {Threei} in overwhelming majority of cases averaging down is getting punished
[12:59] {Threei} curtis, dcc please
[13:00] {bruce} iesc may be short try again
[13:00] {bruce} eqix too dino
[13:00] {curtisweese} threei, i tried, but i'm doing it wrong i guess. click on your name, then dcc then...?
[13:00] {Threei} just doubleclick on my name
[13:01] {Threei} window will pop up
[13:01] {Threei} type in it
[13:05] {patience} gm RT :) Bruce, when you have a moment, please dcc
[13:05] {dino} most likely bruce, i'm just getting rinsed all day
[13:06] {dino} look fmcn now, sheesh
[13:06] {dino} brb
[13:07] {bruce} yes - watching - moved enough to stup us then continue
[13:07] {curtisweese} okay, back from my dcc where threei taught me the secrets of the market
[13:09] {curtisweese} market wants to go higher still?! wow
[13:10] {Threei} hard to say here
[13:10] {Threei} hesitates
[13:16] {Threei} guys, who is using laser,
[13:16] {Threei} have a look at V daily please
[13:16] {magoo} me
[13:17] {Threei} do you see crazy spike on its first day or your daily is normal?
[13:17] {Chaeron} normal
[13:17] {magoo} norm
[13:17] {Threei} hmmm... just me then
[13:17] {Threei} ty
[13:17] {judijim} we use laser also
[13:17] {Chaeron} even tho when I scroll over it it shows a hi of 199,000
[13:18] {Chaeron} that was my buy
[13:18] {Chaeron} :)
[13:18] {Threei} lol
[13:18] {curtisweese} lol!!
[13:18] {Laserdave1} yoru buy?
[13:18] {Chaeron} only 100shares... it's ok
[13:18] {Laserdave1} it was my sell
[13:18] {Chaeron} great job Dave :)
[13:18] {Laserdave1} why ty:)
[13:23] {Threei} BSC, 50/50 trade:
[13:24] {Threei} .99 short, .11 stop
[13:24] {Threei} only if you feel like going for coin toss
[13:24] {dino} iesc you were right bruce
[13:24] {curtisweese} you didn't short up around 13 because it was risky to keep going up at that point?
[13:25] {Threei} just didn't see any setup, and it was scorching hot
[13:26] {Threei} calmed down a bit now... still can pick up the pace, but stop is tight enough here
[13:26] {bruce} yes - hope you got it
[13:28] {Threei} invalidated
[13:32] {Threei} meaningless wandering within a channel... rather a scalp from low to high and back than breakout/breakdown at this point
[13:33] {Threei} we had a very good morning, no need to press now
[13:34] {Threei} keeping an eye on ESLR
[13:34] {Threei} no firm idea of a trade yet
[13:37] {curtisweese} bsc down at 12 again
[13:47] {curtisweese} my stop on msft is at 29.25...don't hit it!!! lol
[13:56] {magoo} vad, AAPL & RIMM
[13:57] {Threei} no read on either mags
[13:59] {Threei} RIMM needs 112 broken to become frenzied player again
[14:00] {Threei} but it's way too far from there
[14:00] {Threei} if market spikes, can take it aggressively of course
[14:00] {Threei} 60 break...
[14:00] {Threei} if holding above .40
[14:01] {Threei} so-so play, honestly
[14:01] {Threei} BSC however... picks up pace again
[14:03] {Threei} good thing RIMM invalidated
[14:03] {Threei} I would be fighting myself to take that trade
[14:04] {dino} eqix s break of .50
[14:06] {dino} infn sm s .70
[14:11] {judijim} what about amzn if hits 77.00
[14:11] {curtisweese} doh my stop is in jeopardy at 29.25....hold on bill hold on
[14:13] {judijim} forget amzn, we were watching:(
[14:17] {Threei} way too far from there, AMZN
[14:31] {Threei} watching GILD
[14:32] {Threei} .94 long if stays above .80
[14:39] {curtisweese} back!
[14:40] {curtisweese} ohhh.....bill has his company at the HOD, but can he break it.....stay tuned for scenes from next week's episode
[14:40] {curtisweese} i'm trying not to trade so much, but i'm just bored now :(
[14:41] {Threei} uh oh
[14:41] {Threei} bored curtis - that's something to be scared of
[14:41] {lumdus} curtis, better to be a bored rich man that a poor active man. In short, don't trade because you are bored. Go pick on your wife instead ..
[14:42] {curtisweese} hahhaah......look at msft....i should unload probably here....hmmmmm....i have held it for hours
[14:42] {bruce} hmm vad - that doesn't sound like a winningstrategy either
[14:42] {bruce} how about fighting w neighbour?
[14:42] {Threei} neither does kicking your cat
[14:43] {curtisweese} i have two cats! here kitty kitty...help me break the HOD
[14:43] {Threei} and I would take great offense on behalf of cat
[14:44] {dino} lol lum
[14:44] {curtisweese} woot! got it finally...now what....lol i just want msft to be up half as much as nasdaq :(
[14:44] {curtisweese} i mean percentagewise, not pointwise
[14:45] {Threei} points would be even better
[14:45] {curtisweese} hahah...moved my stop up to .29....lockin in profits Vaddy-D style!
[14:46] {Threei} lock'em da profits
[14:46] {Threei} da profits are to be locked
[14:48] {curtisweese} that BSC short would have been nice at 12 :(
[14:48] {curtisweese} prolly still nice at 11.73, but i'm chicken
[14:49] {Threei} it went to 12.50 before triggering
[14:49] {Threei} where would you place a stop...
[14:49] {curtisweese} losing like 20k
[14:50] {Threei} WM
[14:50] {Threei} S&P RAISES O/C LEVEL FOR WAMU'S COVERD BOND AAA RATINGS, AFIRMS RATING
[14:51] {Threei} uh oh
[14:51] {Threei} RIMM
[14:51] {Threei} JIM CRAMER MAKING POSITIVE COMMENTS ON THE STOCK - CNBC- Suggests buying stock ahead of next weeks earnings report.
[14:51] {Chaeron} oi
[14:51] {Threei} oy it is
[14:51] {lumdus} did jim cramer suggest to buy BSC ?
[14:51] {Threei} if history is any indication... RIMM goes to 60 {G}
[14:51] {Threei} yes lum...
[14:52] {curtisweese} stopped out of msft made $.18 sheesh that took awhile
[14:52] {Threei} beter than poke in the eye
[14:54] {Threei} GILD invalidated
[14:55] {Threei} breakout on daily remains very attractrively looking, hopefully finishes close to high today and lets us in tomorrow
[14:55] {curtisweese} s aapl super tight stop
[14:58] {curtisweese} out aapl short made $.12
[14:59] {curtisweese} omg...out a second too early again...jeez
[15:03] {bruce} xmsr spike
[15:03] {Threei} XMSR
[15:03] {Threei} SIRI merger approval
[15:05] {Threei} XMSR/SIRI RECEIVES U.S. ANTITRUST APPROVAL; DOJ FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF HARM TO COMPETITION- deal still needs FCC approva
[15:05] {dino} cov eqix .00, +.50
[15:09] {curtisweese} s aapl 139.42 tight stop
[15:09] {curtisweese} out lost .13
[15:09] {Threei} SIRI practically baack into support
[15:10] {Threei} traded at 3 before news
[15:10] {Threei} looks scalpable with 2.95 stop
[15:11] {patience} bruce, please see dcc
[15:13] {judijim} for us had + day, see u earlier tomorrow!
[15:14] {Threei} SAIRI 1:1 if you took .08
[15:14] {Threei} take care judijim, good job
[15:14] {Threei} can I call you jj?
[15:14] {judijim} yes
[15:14] {Threei} ty
[15:15] {Threei} (my is lazy typist... lousy too)
[15:15] {Chaeron} true dat
[15:15] {Threei} and abbreviation dj jj looks so cute to me
[15:15] {Threei} sorry, meant: gj jj
[15:15] {Chaeron} "cute" .......... ?
[15:15] {Threei} proof of concept re: lousy typist
[15:16] {Threei} try to say it chaeron
[15:16] {Threei} rolls of the tongue
[15:18] {curtisweese} s nvda?
[15:18] {Threei} not much indication either way
[15:20] {bruce} taking break
[15:25] {curtisweese} what about SIRI here at 3.07 ??
[15:25] {Threei} I don't like that it returned into this support again
[15:26] {Threei} it weas easy play first time around
[15:26] {Threei} coin toss this time
[15:27] {Threei} play to my liking would have been if it bottommed out at .15 and broke .21
[15:27] {curtisweese} looks like you are right
[15:28] {Threei} can you hear the scream of 3.89 buyer?
[15:28] {curtisweese} lol...yeah
[15:28] {Threei} market order on news...
[15:28] {curtisweese} crazy that they get past a big hurdle with merger and then it dives
[15:29] {curtisweese} here it goes again up.....hmmmm
[15:29] {Threei} dunno... I won't touch it
[15:30] {lumdus} curtis i have no analysis in my column today of bsc. unfortunately i got out at 10.00 instead of 13.85 but hey a good 7.00 is always a pleasure
[15:30] {curtisweese} yeah...i'd say you did alright!
[15:30] {Threei} pleasure?
[15:30] {Threei} that's understatement of the century
[15:31] {Threei} ecstatic joy is more like it, and even that is not reflective enough
[15:31] {lumdus} vad, i have to admit it. I was very nervous all weekend. went through at least 10 advils. wasn't easy at all. But it was well worth every single penny.. I couldn't trade today in my regular account since i maxed out with a margin call on my bsc shares.
[15:32] {Threei} what can I say... all is well that ends well
[15:32] {lumdus} had to use my charles schwab account using street pro crap
[15:32] {curtisweese} wow....you made a killing though....take a break for sure!
[15:33] {lumdus} always looking for the next killing.
[15:36] {dptl} i had uneasy weekend too....bearly sober for three days:)
[15:37] {Threei} meaning, tough hangover?
[15:37] {lumdus} i tried that on friday, wasn't too easy.
[15:37] {dptl} yep...lol
[15:37] {Threei} told ya bathtub vodka no good for your health
[15:38] {dptl} lol
[15:39] {Threei} .15 - .21 setup is back on SIRI
[15:43] {Chaeron} SIRI teasing us
[15:43] {dptl} 17 min left...
[15:44] {Threei} TILL YOUR NEXT SHOT DP? {g}
[15:44] {Threei} sorry caps
[15:44] {dptl} roflol......having beer.....
[15:44] {Threei} yeah... don't drink and trade
[15:45] {Chaeron} so even tho he's on his 7th beer, that doesn't count?
[15:45] {Threei} it doesn't, simply because he can't count after 5th
[15:46] {Chaeron} heheheh
[15:46] {dptl} lol
[15:46] {curtisweese} l aapl 139 super tight stop...just an end of day try and trade
[15:47] {Threei} XMSR trying to break 14, should help SIRI is does
[15:47] {curtisweese} nice....that will get me closer to my entry at 3.89
[15:48] {curtisweese} just kiddin
[15:48] {Threei} lol
[15:49] {Threei} come on XMSR... on behalf of buyer above 15, could you at least break 14?
[15:49] {curtisweese} stopped out .12
[15:50] {Threei} who still hasn't read last two blog posts, you better do it after close today
[15:50] {Threei} or else
[15:52] {Threei} wow... I successfully scared everyone
[15:52] {dptl} have a good evening all....ty. Vad... good day today:)
[15:53] {Threei} take care dp, Alka Zeltzer is your destiny today :)
[15:53] {dptl} :)
[15:53] {Threei} and no, it's not a female neighbour's name
[15:53] {curtisweese} weird that msft didnt move anywhere today
[15:54] {dptl} ooo good to know...:)
[15:55] {curtisweese} jeez i set my stop barely too tight on that last aapl trade.....it hit and executed and then stock goes up.....70
[15:55] {curtisweese} i think i sold at the low...sweeeeeet
[15:58] {Threei} Ok guys, good day today, which is not foten happens on Mondays
[15:58] {Threei} thank you all
[15:58] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[16:01] {dino} take care all
Monday, March 24, 2008
Thursday, March 20, 2008
Mar 20 2008
Session Time: Thu Mar 20 00:00:00 2008
[08:31] {Onix} Good morning
[08:32] {Onix} well .. at least I hope it is going to be a good morning!
[08:34] {Threei} Good morning
[08:35] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 378K V 360KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 2.865M V 2.840ME
- Prior Initial Jobless Claims revised from 353K to 356K
[08:35] {Threei} - Prior Continuing Claims revised from 2.835M to 2.833M
[08:45] {magoo} mornimng
[08:45] {Threei} magoo :)
[08:49] {magoo} hello vad..my scanner says account expires in 2 days ?
[08:50] {Threei} please dcc me your username, I'll check up on this
[08:51] {magoo} the "connected as?"
[08:51] {Threei} yup
[08:52] {magoo} sent
[08:52] {magoo} oh, i emailed
[08:53] {Threei} got it
[08:56] {Threei} check noqw
[08:57] {magoo} wow..your good...186 days ..TY
[08:58] {Threei} welcome :)
[08:58] {Threei} anyone ever traded or observed ABK?
[09:00] {dptl} good morning all
[09:00] {Threei} dp :)
[09:00] {magoo} we played it
[09:00] {Threei} ugh, sorry, wrong symbol
[09:00] {Threei} ABX
[09:01] {Threei} Barrick
[09:02] {Threei} lost major support
[09:02] {Threei} overall has this look and feel of big unwinding
[09:02] {Threei} gotta watch to get a feel for how it trades
[09:03] {tomg} gm all
[09:03] {Threei} tom :)
[09:08] {esemde} good morning/
[09:08] {Threei} ese :)
[09:09] {dino} gm all
[09:09] {Threei} dino :)
[09:10] {dino} abx gold stock
[09:10] {Threei} yup, Barrick
[09:10] {dino} gold lost about 6% yesterday, thats about $60/ounce
[09:10] {Threei} not gold stock... THE gold stock :)
[09:11] {dino} hmmmm, 3i getting emotional
[09:11] {patience} i trade Barrick frequently, mostly options....Barrick broke below $48...and is in trouble. Bought puts in ABX and other golds this week
[09:11] {GeoArb} gm all
[09:11] {Threei} geo :)
[09:11] {patience} gm btw :)
[09:12] {Threei} morning patience :)
[09:12] {dino} patience, your nick should be the oracle
[09:12] {patience} nope, i just spend alot of time reading lol
[09:13] {dino} :)
[09:13] {Threei} see... I always knew it was good for you to know letters and have the skill to put them together so they form words
[09:13] {Threei} also, to read makes us speak English good
[09:15] {Threei} (poor Raven)
[09:16] {Raven}
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[09:16] {bruce} are thre options in bsc - if so shoulda bought puts a week or so back
[09:17] {Threei} better yet, on 10/052007
[09:17] {Threei} V
[09:17] {Threei} UNDERWRITERS EXERCISE OVERALLOTMENT OPTION OF 40.6M SHRS
[09:17] {Threei} now, why would they do that
[09:20] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} gm all
[09:20] {Threei} thtt :)
[09:22] {magoo} vad, quick ?
[09:22] {bruce} big drop into support bvn yesterday dino
[09:22] {magoo} when u make call..say loss of ..99
[09:23] {magoo} are u watching and entering manually or is there som limit order auto?
[09:23] {Threei} manually
[09:23] {Threei} you can set auto via OMS I believe
[09:23] {magoo} cause i keep missing enntries
[09:23] {magoo} have to chase a little
[09:23] {Threei} this is a matter of a stock being thick enough for entry
[09:23] {magoo} 'seems they are sitting and then woosh
[09:23] {Threei} not the manual vs auto
[09:24] {Threei} if there are no bids to hit, however you send it won't make a difference
[09:24] {magoo} like JPM sh last afternoon...u said like .99..woosh
[09:24] {Threei} that's why my limits are a bit beyond the price I want
[09:24] {magoo} it went thru it to .89 in blink.. i missed
[09:24] {bruce} isn't that the way it goes mags? - the ones that really break deciseively tend to best winners
[09:25] {bruce} but don't give muchchance to enter w/out chasing
[09:25] {Threei} it's simply a matter of defining how far you are willing to chase, setting order there and adjusting your size accordingly
[09:26] {Threei} if there are shares available at better price you'll get them
[09:26] {magoo} how far do u recommend chasing?..say on that JPM
[09:26] {Threei} if not, you'll get your limit
[09:26] {Threei} and if no shares even there, oh well
[09:26] {Threei} my usual is 3-5 cents
[09:26] {magoo} ok..
[09:26] {magoo} see V spike
[09:26] {Threei} if it wooshes by I wait a little for possible bounce
[09:27] {Threei} if it continues decisively not giving me a fill I cancel
[09:27] {dino} bvn commodity stock
[09:27] {bruce} k
[09:27] {bruce} pot as well - looks like reversal candidate
[09:29] {bruce} same pattern mon
[09:29] {magoo} vad, how come we haven't been playing QID lately?
[09:29] {Threei} you've seen much pattern following in NASDAQ chart? :)
[09:30] {dino} nov interesting, apol watching
[09:30] {bruce} k
[09:31] {dino} ibn downgrade
[09:31] {Threei} watching ABX bounce with idea of short at 43.05
[09:31] {Threei} 43 limit for order
[09:31] {Threei} if sets up from here stop above .30
[09:31] {bruce} crox vad
[09:32] {Threei} got .05
[09:32] {magoo} see.i didn't get that
[09:32] {Threei} half out .66
[09:32] {Threei} stop 43.10
[09:33] {Threei} out
[09:34] {Threei} how did you send it magoo?
[09:35] {Threei} RUSSIAN SECURITY SERVICE DETAINS TNK-BP OFFICIAL, BRITISH COUNCIL, CHARGES HIM WITH COMMERCIAL ESPIONAGE
[09:35] {Threei} welcome to cold war, part 2
[09:36] {GeoArb} vad.... you and putin need to talk...
[09:36] {dino} sit him in the clink for a year before deciding what to do
[09:36] {GeoArb} really....
[09:36] {Chaeron} GM all
[09:36] {Threei} chaeron :)
[09:36] {cosmo} espionage is the worlds second oldest profession...
[09:36] {bruce} lol cosmo
[09:37] {Threei} 07:01am [IDMI] Reports Q4 -$0.11 v -$0.26e, R $5.6M v $3.2M
[09:38] {Threei} couldn't read re-entry for ABX, bounce was a bit too wide
[09:40] {Threei} MF .50 break short
[09:40] {Threei} over .65 invalidated
[09:41] {Threei} .61 stop
[09:42] {magoo} in that
[09:42] {Chaeron} here too
[09:42] {magoo} if bruce is also..kiss of death
[09:42] {magoo} the 3 of us
[09:43] {magoo} vad, news BIDU?
[09:43] {magoo} down 70 points in 6 days
[09:43] {dino} fwlt blood
[09:44] {Threei} half out MF
[09:44] {bruce} im in mags - sorry
[09:44] {Threei} +.29
[09:44] {Threei} stop .51
[09:45] {Threei} even bruce couldn't kill this play, that's how good it was {G}
[09:45] {bruce} out mf =.20
[09:45] {dptl} +.16 for me mf ty
[09:45] {GeoArb} .2 for me TY
[09:45] {magoo} out TY vad
[09:45] {Threei} welcome guys
[09:46] {bruce} I should just announce the ones I neter so you folks can bail immediately
[09:46] {Threei} yeah, and leave you to profit alone?
[09:46] {Threei} out balance
[09:47] {Threei} got greedy a bit
[09:47] {bruce} I'm not greedy
[09:47] {Threei} had bid for second half at .05
[09:47] {Threei} and thing bottomed at .08
[09:47] {bruce} I thought a drop to 8 was reasonable in it but gald I dumped when it started to spike
[09:48] {Threei} everyone forgot about VLNC swing trade alert from yesterday I am sure
[09:49] {bruce} ibn looks like possible long now dino
[09:50] {dino} thinking same
[09:51] {dino} no, cx that, was thinking bvn
[09:51] {dino} ibn, i want yo short near hod
[09:51] {bruce} k
[09:51] {bruce} watching it too - ibn had a spike needs to drop again
[09:52] {bruce} mon had nice dump and recovery but don't see any way to have played it
[09:52] {dino} missed
[09:53] {Threei} FDRY .70 break long
[09:55] {bruce} if fdry breaks looks like stop needs to be .57 or so - what you thinking vad?
[09:55] {Threei} watching this pullback to define stop
[09:55] {bruce} k
[09:55] {dino} gold -$30 more bucks
[09:56] {Threei} ABX 43 resistance
[09:56] {Threei} worth a shot on short side, small shares
[09:56] {Threei} stop above 43
[09:57] {Threei} with attempt to hold it for bigger move
[09:57] {dino} bvn sm l .34
[09:57] {magoo} entry?\
[09:57] {magoo} ABX entry?
[09:58] {Threei} it has no trigger
[09:58] {Threei} as close to 43 as you can get, small shares
[09:58] {Threei} so you would be comfortable with stop
[09:58] {bruce} k- wondered if you had entered it already vad
[09:58] {Threei} .73
[09:59] {Threei} and VLNC .24
[09:59] {Threei} VLNC not a day trade most likely
[09:59] {Threei} SOLF TICKING HIGHER ON TAKEOVER CHATTER- Sunpower rumored as potential acquirer{
[10:00] {bruce} k
[10:00] {hawkfan4} grabbed vlnc at the close yesterday vad, .09
[10:00] {Threei} *FEB LEADING INDICATORS: -0.3% V -0.3%E- prior revised from -0.1% to -0.4%
[10:00] {Threei} *MARCH PHILADELPHIA FED INDEX: -17 V -19E
[10:00] {dino} oih $ move
[10:00] {dino} uip
[10:00] {dino} up
[10:01] {Threei} FDRY stop .59
[10:03] {dino} out bvn 66.34, +2.00
[10:03] {Threei} stopped ABX
[10:04] {dino} tough crowd
[10:04] {hawkfan4} nice dino :)
[10:04] {bruce} wow dino
[10:04] {bruce} you must have cuaght alost exact bottome bvn
[10:04] {dino} ty, bruce's spot
[10:05] {dino} i posted see above 64.34
[10:06] {dino} ibn you were right, i was wrong
[10:06] {dino} never entered
[10:09] {dino} gtls
[10:09] {curtisweese} l aapl 130.47 morning!
[10:09] {bruce} we'll find more
[10:09] {Threei} morning curtis
[10:10] {Threei} VLNC, my little beauty
[10:13] {esemde} NUAN long 18.24 1/2
[10:13] {Threei} looked at it too ese, and missed
[10:14] {Threei} looks promising
[10:14] {esemde} just barely got in Vad......didn't think I was going to get in either
[10:15] {esemde} I think I have goofy broker ...get these weird fills
[10:16] {Threei} scalpers can trail FDRY stop to .64
[10:17] {dino} who's your broker, disney?
[10:17] {Chaeron} lol
[10:17] {esemde} I think so dino....
[10:18] {esemde} Questrade in Toronto
[10:19] {curtisweese} jeez dino... +$2?!?!?! nice!
[10:20] {dino} lucky
[10:21] {bruce} bvn still looking long dino - would prefer an entry near 66
[10:23] {Threei} beautiful NUAN
[10:23] {bruce} what do y9ou think of ptr long dino?
[10:24] {dino} 65.50
[10:24] {dino} bvn
[10:24] {Threei} FDRY almost 1:1
[10:24] {esemde} OUT NUAN .49 + .25
[10:24] {Threei} wtg
[10:24] {esemde} 1:1
[10:24] {dino} trades w/oil, petro china
[10:24] {bruce} k
[10:24] {esemde} worked like a diagram that time....
[10:25] {esemde} it's going higher though
[10:25] {dino} pull the oih use it as a guide
[10:26] {bruce} abx looks long vad
[10:26] {bruce} got it up dino
[10:26] {dino} odfl thoughts
[10:27] {curtisweese} out aapl made .51
[10:28] {bruce} 2 buck spike in cree dino- may have short potential
[10:29] {dino} can't borrow cree for me
[10:29] {bruce} would hate to go long odfl long here
[10:29] {dino} i like it short here fwiw
[10:30] {bruce} I like itshort - but inclined to wait for it to start fading
[10:30] {curtisweese} l aapl 130.59
[10:31] {bruce} risk is small if we truy short here
[10:31] {bruce} just as well we waited - breaking some new highs
[10:32] {dino} cree?
[10:32] {dino} i was talking cree
[10:32] {dino} ibn break of .00 s
[10:33] {bruce} l abx .36 w 20c stop
[10:33] {dino} oih hod
[10:35] {dino} risky, sm l drys .10
[10:35] {bruce} stopped abx
[10:35] {esemde} morning patience........did the power just go out at your place.....mine just went out over here?
[10:39] {bruce} l exz at74 15c stop
[10:41] {bruce} stopped ewz - drat
[10:41] {dino} drys stopped
[10:41] {dino} -.50 sm
[10:43] {bruce} sorry dino - I hate drys - never had winning trade in it
[10:44] {dino} nov l .50, stop .18
[10:45] {dino} mdvn
[10:45] {dino} drys off my screen
[10:47] {Threei} RIMM .41 long if holding above .25
[10:48] {curtisweese} i'm still long aapl...stuck in pretty much even :(
[10:48] {Threei} over 1:1 RIMM
[10:49] {dino} out nov
[10:49] {dino} +.54
[10:50] {curtisweese} dino is on fire!
[10:50] {Threei} that's his usual state
[10:50] {dino} somebody save me, the mask
[10:51] {Threei} we normally keep fire-extinguisher around him
[10:51] {bruce} nice one dino
[10:52] {Threei} out RIMM in full +.54
[10:52] {GeoArb} missed rimm.... did 42 limit
[10:52] {GeoArb} must be doing something wrong
[10:52] {Threei} 1 cent is a bit too small for volatile stock
[10:52] {GeoArb} :)
[10:53] {magoo} out 07 rimm TY
[10:53] {Threei} welcome
[10:53] {Threei} VLNC makes my day
[10:53] {Threei} new 52 week high
[10:54] {dino} mdvn l .00, stop .83
[10:54] {curtisweese} out aapl made .24
[10:55] {curtisweese} s aapl stop at 131.05
[10:55] {Onix} Enjoy .. gotta go to regular job now
[10:56] {bruce} l apol 55.09 - stop 15c
[10:56] {dino} bid falling out of avtr
[10:56] {Threei} take care onix
[10:56] {dino} later onix
[10:57] {curtisweese} out on aapl...had a weird fill and bailed on everything :)
[10:58] {dino} rrgb
[10:59] {tomg} brcm vad?
[10:59] {Threei} if market spikes here it's scalpable
[11:00] {tomg} ty
[11:00] {Threei} I wouldn't count on more, this one requires sizeable rally to move bigger
[11:00] {Threei} rally very well may be in cards
[11:01] {Threei} but there is no really way to tell the odds
[11:02] {tomg} have to leave soon, better stay out
[11:02] {Threei} anyone took VLNC?
[11:03] {Threei} I didn't provide timely commentary on partialing out thinking that no one did
[11:03] {Threei} let me know if there is a need
[11:03] {hawkfan4} in vlnc from .09
[11:03] {Threei} from yeasterday?
[11:03] {hawkfan4} yep
[11:04] {Threei} I dumped half at .44
[11:04] {tomg} have a nice weekend everyone
[11:04] {Threei} but I had a bit too big position initisally for comfortable holding
[11:04] {curtisweese} bye tom!
[11:04] {Threei} take care tom
[11:04] {esemde} you figurew VLNC has more upside VAD
[11:04] {curtisweese} people sell on short weeks?
[11:04] {curtisweese} 4 day weeks i mean? at end of day?
[11:04] {Threei} feels this way ese
[11:05] {Threei} curtis... depends
[11:05] {Threei} some sell... sme buy
[11:05] {curtisweese} oh...ok...thanks for clarifying hahahahha
[11:05] {Threei} you didn't think it was that simple, did ya? :)
[11:06] {Threei} if tyhere was such certain pattern, everyone would use it and make milions in one day
[11:07] {Threei} question remains, who would have taken the other side of their sells
[11:07] {Threei} since pattern is so certain, why would anyone buy :)
[11:07] {curtisweese} cuz me dumb
[11:07] {curtisweese} l aapl here :)
[11:08] {curtisweese} all aboard the aapl bandwagon!
[11:09] {Threei} {AAPL} hey, don't pile up on me
[11:09] {curtisweese} tight stop...but it's free money :P
[11:10] {bruce} half out apol +.40
[11:10] {Threei} wtg bruce
[11:10] {Threei} what's free money?
[11:10] {curtisweese} nice bruce!!!
[11:10] {curtisweese} aapl at 130.34 there....bottom of it's channel for last hour or so
[11:11] {curtisweese} i mean channel it's following for last hour
[11:11] {bruce} thanx peoples
[11:11] {Threei} yep, I see it
[11:11] {curtisweese} but might fall below now :(
[11:11] {curtisweese} jinxed myself
[11:11] {Threei} market drop takes it down
[11:12] {curtisweese} hahah market slaps me in the face!
[11:14] {dino} rrgb s .76 sm
[11:20] {dino} mdvn stop to .89 not working
[11:23] {Threei} dino
[11:23] {Threei} believe it or not... canadian TV talks about Constanza trading
[11:24] {dino} opposites
[11:24] {dino} ?
[11:24] {Threei} yup
[11:24] {curtisweese} i will have the tuna. my name is george, i don't have a job and i live with my parents
[11:25] {Threei} but they actually applied this terminology
[11:25] {dino} too funny, but actually makes sense, average person will be wrong so go contrary
[11:25] {curtisweese} come on aapl....break this upper resistance darn you!
[11:25] {dino} stealing our lines vad
[11:26] {Threei} no kidding... who is in here CCBC spy, confess
[11:26] {dino} ok, somebody kick rrbg in the nuts so it will drop
[11:27] {Threei} FDRY almost 1:2
[11:27] {Threei} feel free to take profit
[11:27] {curtisweese} i will have some if you are handing it out
[11:28] {Threei} I just call'em... FDRY hands it out
[11:28] {GeoArb} vad's gracious heheh
[11:28] {Threei} ain't I always {G}
[11:28] {bruce} out balance apol +.93
[11:28] {Threei} bruce is killing it today
[11:29] {curtisweese} awesome bruce!!!
[11:29] {dino} wtgb bruce, in the zone
[11:29] {bruce} just lucky vad
[11:29] {bruce} thanx dino
[11:29] {Threei} you know who luck favors
[11:29] {bruce} yes - curtis
[11:29] {Threei} lol
[11:29] {GeoArb} lol
[11:30] {curtisweese} hahahaha
[11:30] {dino} ceph
[11:30] {curtisweese} hopefully some of you jumped in aapl
[11:30] {dino} cancer approval
[11:30] {curtisweese} for a little scalp :P
[11:30] {Threei} CEPH FDA APPROVES TREANDA FOR CHRONIC LYMPHOCYTIC LEUKEMIA
[11:31] {bruce} on radar dino
[11:33] {dino} hmm was thinking long
[11:35] {judi} checking in from Judi and Jim, Judi's off to psychology practice, Jim's tuned in
[11:35] {curtisweese} how does that make you feel?
[11:36] {Threei} hi Jim
[11:36] {dino} sm l .70
[11:37] {judi} good morning Vad and all
[11:37] {Threei} missed a few nice ones
[11:37] {GeoArb} yeah vad's on fire
[11:37] {GeoArb} i erased yesterday AND the day before's shame
[11:38] {dino} gj geo
[11:38] {Threei} gosh... is fella allowed to have couple lukewarm days around here
[11:38] {dino} penx, fcsx blood
[11:38] {GeoArb} :D
[11:38] {Threei} :)
[11:38] {Threei} FNCM lost its mind
[11:39] {bruce} still lookingat ceph dino?
[11:39] {bruce} retrace long near here imo
[11:40] {dino} see above sm l .70
[11:40] {dino} 63.70
[11:41] {dino} strange it won't go on that news
[11:42] {bruce} or else mms having some fun right now w nasty head fake
[11:42] {judi} Judi and I have agreed that I only watch when she is not here because of a couple bad days (:
[11:42] {dino} ok reuters out w/it now
[11:42] {judi} only temporary
[11:42] {dino} don't think naz has mm's
[11:42] {bruce} wow - more than head fake there - maybe some new news
[11:43] {Threei} not that I see
[11:43] {dino} stoppig -.40 sm
[11:44] {bruce} k - I was just abpoiut to enter when it tqanked
[11:44] {bruce} its a nice entry near 63 again but I'd like to see it calm down and drift to there
[11:44] {dino} dk on it
[11:45] {dino} fcsx?
[11:45] {dptl} it's a long weekend,right?
[11:46] {bruce} ewz looks short on .50 break
[11:46] {Threei} yes dp
[11:46] {Threei} Good Friday
[11:46] {Threei} although if you ask me, any Friday is good
[11:46] {dptl} open monday?
[11:46] {Threei} yup
[11:46] {dptl} ty
[11:46] {curtisweese} wow look at aapl!!
[11:46] {curtisweese} dove like $1
[11:47] {bruce} missed ewz -moved too fast
[11:47] {dino} nihd
[11:48] {Threei} NASNY
[11:48] {Threei} EXEC: MARCH SALES TRACKING COMPANY OBJECTIVES 'AMAZINGLY' WELL TO DATE- Expect to gain US market share in March
[11:48] {Threei} NSANY
[11:48] {Threei} I knew there was a reason I liked Nissan... both cars in the family are from them
[11:50] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:50] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:50] {judi} since entering chat room ,havent had an off day though
[11:51] {bruce} q's now at yesterdays lows - breakdown or bounce time?
[11:52] {Threei} magoo... any idea why bruce is bludgeoning us?
[11:52] {magoo} because he can
[11:52] {Threei} feels like breakdown bruce
[11:52] {bruce} k
[11:52] {dino} makes sense
[11:52] {bruce} thanx vad
[11:53] {bruce} thats to vad for not trading tomorrow
[11:53] {Threei} I thought he hated my Nissan
[11:53] {bruce} and to you mags to keep you awake
[11:53] {bruce} no need to thank me
[11:54] {bruce} if we get breakdown nvda and amgn look like short candidates
[11:56] {bruce} nissans are nice vad - toyota better
[11:56] {Threei} I am cold to Toyota
[11:57] {GeoArb} i have always owned mazdas..... zoom zoom
[11:57] {bruce} k - you had one w faulty heater?
[11:58] {Threei} lol
[11:59] {Threei} too boring and and too mainstream for my taste
[11:59] {curtisweese} nvda short? hmmmif below 17.95?
[12:00] {Threei} market getting too jerky here curtis
[12:00] {curtisweese} k
[12:05] {dino} this rrgb remoinds me of bwld yesterday
[12:06] {bruce} ewz long prospect dino?
[12:06] {dino} dk bruce
[12:07] {bruce} k
[12:08] {Chaeron} http://www.nyse.com/about/newsevents/1176373643795.html
[12:08] {Chaeron} too many dang holidays
[12:08] {dino} its a brazil fund, if commodities down i suppose it to, really no idea
[12:09] {bruce} k- you know this stuff by memory?
[12:10] {dino} no, my acct shows it to me automatically
[12:10] {bruce} k- cool
[12:10] {GeoArb} laser? or something else?
[12:10] {dino} schwab streetsmartpro, used to be cybertrader
[12:10] {GeoArb} ah yeas heard of it
[12:11] {dino} watching nov w/oih
[12:15] {curtisweese} market breakdown coming?
[12:15] {Threei} really can't tell here
[12:16] {bruce} extremely narrow range day for q's today
[12:16] {Threei} something or someone supports market every time when it looks like it's ready to melt
[12:16] {dino} l nov .00, stop .67
[12:17] {curtisweese} nvda at top of channel
[12:18] {bruce} l nov at .88 dino
[12:20] {dino} stopped no work
[12:21] {bruce} yep
[12:22] {dino} sorry, gone cold
[12:22] {dino} bvn
[12:22] {bruce} oih dumped
[12:23] {Threei} CIT
[12:23] {Threei} was hatled earlier
[12:24] {dino} credit watch cit
[12:24] {Threei} yeah, and whole bunch of troubles
[12:24] {dino} drawdowns credit facilities
[12:25] {dino} watch other financials
[12:26] {bruce} l adbe .51 stop .44
[12:26] {dino} rrgb bstop to .36
[12:27] {curtisweese} s rimm
[12:27] {dino} make it .31
[12:28] {dino} cov slip .34 +.42
[12:28] {lumdus} vad, is there options expiriation today ?
[12:29] {Threei} hmm
[12:29] {Threei} I don't think so unless I missed something
[12:30] {Threei} which is quite possible
[12:30] {Threei} it's kind of hard to track this things while being in permanent coma
[12:30] {GeoArb} triple witching today
[12:30] {Threei} ready?
[12:30] {Threei} really?
[12:30] {lumdus} trading feels like it today.
[12:30] {dino} schwab said something about sat.
[12:30] {Threei} sheesh... I am out of touch
[12:31] {GeoArb} thats what the stock trader almanac says
[12:31] {Threei} thanks geo
[12:31] {lumdus} yeah, it just felt like that kind of day...
[12:31] {Threei} morning was good
[12:31] {lumdus} so why you in a permanent coma ?
[12:31] {Threei} we had what, one stop?
[12:31] {Threei} I like it lum
[12:32] {GeoArb} interesting econoday says quad witchnig
[12:32] {Threei} great justific ation for being lazy
[12:32] {GeoArb} morning was excellent
[12:32] {lumdus} i logged in the morning, didn't like anything - so i left. came back still don't like anything.. maybe i go away soon.
[12:32] {Threei} blood supply to brain is diminished greatly, which leaves more for stomach etc
[12:33] {curtisweese} does rimm short look right vad?
[12:33] {Threei} stop above .50?
[12:33] {curtisweese} i'm short at 103.25 yeah.... .55 stop
[12:34] {Threei} so far so good, market is helping at the moment
[12:34] {Threei} control risk by partialing out if you want to try and ride it
[12:35] {Threei} it has a good chance for breakdown, just need toat force that keeps market afloat to go away
[12:35] {Threei} you have over 1:1
[12:39] {curtisweese} out rimm short made .47
[12:39] {curtisweese} good timing
[12:40] {Threei} wtg
[12:41] {dptl} jblu?
[12:42] {Threei} chart's right, just too narrow
[12:42] {dptl} ok
[12:42] {Threei} scalp on a small move, maybe
[12:44] {curtisweese} s rimm 103.33 stop .55 or so
[12:45] {dino} omab
[12:46] {curtisweese} out .03
[12:46] {bruce} mer looks short
[12:50] {bruce} mer invalid as short for now
[12:52] {bruce} fcsx dino = possible bounce near here
[12:55] {dino} yes waiting at .50
[12:55] {bruce} k
[12:56] {bruce} bvn possible long here too-
[12:56] {dino} missed at 64.50
[12:56] {dino} reading my mind
[12:56] {dino} fcsx sm l .50, risky
[12:57] {bruce} k - trouble here is may go but may drop quick - your thoughts?
[12:57] {dino} too soon
[12:57] {curtisweese} s mer ....gonna try it here :)
[12:57] {bruce} k
[12:57] {dino} crazy market it was 40 on friday
[12:58] {dino} heck 34 yesterday
[12:58] {esemde} am outta here for a couple of hours....will maybe see you all later
[12:59] {Threei} take care ese
[12:59] {esemde} see ya vad
[12:59] {bruce} bye ese
[12:59] {bruce} good entry curtis - small stop if it doesn't work
[12:59] {curtisweese} die market and mer
[13:01] {dino} eqix?
[13:02] {bruce} looks good dino or bounce
[13:02] {bruce} fior
[13:02] {dino} lol
[13:03] {dino} or, fior = for i guess
[13:04] {bruce} yep - sorry - took my typing lessons from vad
[13:05] {dino} fcsx stop to .19
[13:05] {bruce} lets see if it holds .26
[13:05] {bruce} k - not in yet
[13:05] {dino} out fcsx .17, +.67
[13:06] {dino} rinsed my stop
[13:06] {dino} ohhhh mannnnnnn (as swiper would say)
[13:07] {GeoArb} heh swiper.......i have to watch that with my kids everyday
[13:07] {dino} lol, thats the one
[13:08] {bruce} nice one dino
[13:09] {bruce} nov - possible long from here dino
[13:09] {dino} sm l eqix .50 stop .18
[13:10] {dino} only nov if oih goes
[13:10] {dino} imo, fwiw, lol
[13:10] {bruce} k
[13:11] {dino} rrgb up again
[13:14] {bruce} leqixas well .51
[13:16] {bruce} whats your target eqix? - thinking .80
[13:17] {dino} .90s
[13:17] {bruce} k
[13:17] {Threei} NASDAQ narrowed greatly and started forming descending triangle
[13:17] {curtisweese} what's that mean?
[13:17] {dino} might be expecting too much, but thats me
[13:18] {Threei} NQ breaking 1725 should trigger selloff
[13:18] {curtisweese} good cuz i'm still shorting mer lol'
[13:18] {Threei} unless PTT intrudes again
[13:18] {Threei} PPT
[13:18] {Threei} my typing becomes worse and worse
[13:19] {dino} ptt=profit tag team
[13:19] {Threei} all pessimists saying it couldn't get any worse are being put to shame
[13:19] {Threei} it CAN!
[13:20] {dino} auxl?
[13:21] {dino} wouldn't that be optimists
[13:22] {Threei} I'll have to ponder that over weekend
[13:22] {Threei} providing I get enough blood/oxygen supply to brain
[13:23] {curtisweese} out mer short lost .20
[13:23] {dino} i intend to get the alcohol ratio up
[13:24] {dino} eqix maybe you're right bruce
[13:26] {bruce} we'll see - stuck now if it break .75 now thinking it'll go to 58- break is the ?
[13:30] {dino} nov l .25 careful
[13:37] {curtisweese} l ceph 63.74
[13:37] {curtisweese} not very much movement but i need a break and want to own something....hahahaa
[13:38] {curtisweese} seems like it should have moved up more with that news.....stupid news
[13:38] {dino} out nov .75, +.50
[13:40] {dino} magoo's gonna be pissed on ceph at 63.74
[13:40] {magoo} :)
[13:40] {curtisweese} i got out right away...don't want to be handcuffed to it
[13:41] {dino} its all about the size play in this market magoo
[13:41] {dino} prevent rinses
[13:42] {bruce} nice one dino
[13:42] {bruce} just dumped eqix+.20
[13:42] {dino} gj
[13:42] {dino} you missed nov? oih gave the entry
[13:43] {bruce} I wanted 58 but \kept struggling at .80 level
[13:43] {bruce} yes - only doing one trade at time
[13:43] {dino} ok
[13:43] {bruce} I saw nov and liked it - you had gret entry
[13:44] {dino} i prefer "lucky" entry
[13:45] {bruce} lol
[13:45] {bruce} better to be lucky than smart
[13:45] {bruce} for that matter - better to be lucky than dumb too
[13:46] {dino} better lucky than good (being good is too hard)
[13:46] {bruce} I like bad- more fun
[13:46] {dino} rrgb hod
[13:46] {Threei} or as ancient russian joke goes, better be healthy and wealthy than sick and at war
[13:47] {dino} pretty bad when the movers are buffalo wild wings and red robin burgers
[13:47] {curtisweese} l aapl here for run i hope! 130.92
[13:47] {bruce} thats a good one vad
[13:48] {dino} fwiw i am waiting sm s rrgb 38.80, purely a random area
[13:48] {Threei} hawk... VLNC :)
[13:48] {bruce} k
[13:49] {dino} on rrgb the profit ( if any ) will be luck, the stop is the skill
[13:50] {hawkfan4} :) nice move
[13:50] {dino} quite the range on fwlt
[13:55] {dino} out eqix .90, +.40
[13:55] {bruce} yes - first hour was big
[13:56] {bruce} good for you dino - I had no guts to hold
[13:56] {dino} ty, was a pain, but worked out, gappy
[13:56] {bruce} I lost confidnece on the stall at .8
[13:57] {curtisweese} come on aapl darn you.....help me help you
[13:58] {bruce} it actually looks good to me now for a move to 58.50 or so but no way I'denter here
[13:58] {dino} problem is the drawdown to 57.55 was consistant
[13:59] {curtisweese} you need someone to enter somewhere stupid?
[13:59] {curtisweese} lol
[13:59] {bruce} yes - too much risk of big pullback her
[13:59] {bruce} lol curtis
[14:00] {curtisweese} i have a super tight stop on aapl
[14:00] {bruce} you voluntering?
[14:00] {dino} lol
[14:00] {dino} brb
[14:00] {bruce} k
[14:06] {curtisweese} doh! stupid stop hit just enough to take my order and then it bounced up! grrrrrrr
[14:06] {Threei} supertight stops tend to do that
[14:06] {curtisweese} yep
[14:09] {dino} move rrgb s to 39.24 entry
[14:09] {dino} too strong
[14:09] {bruce} any feel on esrx long break of 61.20 vad?
[14:09] {bruce} sory 61.3
[14:10] {Threei} if market continues upward, certainly
[14:10] {Threei} PPT did fantastic job keeping NQ away from dangerous 1725
[14:10] {curtisweese} l aapl 130.92
[14:11] {Threei} will they try to prop it further or will they just remain satisfied by no meltdown ahead of long weekend, who knows
[14:11] {bruce} esrx invalid now - retraced too far
[14:12] {Threei} why, as long as it's holding above 61 it's valid
[14:13] {magoo} rimm sh vad??
[14:14] {dino} maybe the 38.80 area is the spot on rrgb
[14:15] {bruce} it broke to .93 vad - wanted to see it form a smaller tighter range
[14:15] {bruce} bvn long here dino?
[14:16] {dino} dk, liked it better 65
[14:16] {bruce} k
[14:17] {bruce} riimsky strating to look like short candidate
[14:18] {curtisweese} i'm in on RIMM s 105.10
[14:18] {bruce} k curtis
[14:18] {dino} rrgb sm s .36
[14:18] {curtisweese} stop where? .39?
[14:19] {dino} stop hod
[14:19] {curtisweese} die rimm!!!!!!!!!!!11
[14:20] {curtisweese} out rimm short.....made .20 i moved my stop too close :(
[14:21] {bruce} still beats loss - congrats curits
[14:22] {dino} gj
[14:22] {curtisweese} back in again 105 this time
[14:25] {curtisweese} here comes the fall of RIMM ....like the roman empire.... have mercy market.....you had me at hello
[14:25] {bruce} in rush the heathens
[14:26] {dino} lol
[14:27] {dino} curtis, how old are you?
[14:27] {dino} cracking me up
[14:28] * Threei hopes the answer is within 12 and 79
[14:28] {curtisweese} 37
[14:28] {Threei} whew
[14:28] {curtisweese} my name is billy i'm 5
[14:28] {Chaeron} your spelling is better than most grownups here, Billy
[14:28] {dino} fat bastard here
[14:29] {curtisweese} thanc yu
[14:30] {curtisweese} sheesh was up $13k in 3 days and am down today $1k i need to follow the chat trades more, eh.....these tuition fees are killing me
[14:30] {dino} 13k you should have your own room
[14:31] {GeoArb} can i make 13 k trading 100 share lots?
[14:31] {curtisweese} it was luck on that RIMM short over the weekend....so technically 4 days
[14:31] {dino} that my monthly goal
[14:31] {GeoArb} the funny part is scottrade
[14:31] {curtisweese} $14 in and out for 20000 shares of siri and stuff is nice
[14:32] {curtisweese} or 7 in and 7 out
[14:32] {curtisweese} still learning then i might try out your guys one :)
[14:33] {dino} stick w/what works curtis, otherwise you'll mess up
[14:33] {dino} bvn was good bruce
[14:34] {bruce} gg longcandidate on 38 break
[14:36] {magoo} RIMM long vad??
[14:37] {Threei} not sure... wouldn't make new high when NQ did
[14:39] {dino} oih flat
[14:43] {bruce} out gg flat- shoulda taken .15 spike
[14:43] {bruce} you got bvn dino?
[14:46] {dino} n
[14:46] {curtisweese} stop on RIMM at 105.05 gotta go shower let me know what happens :) brb
[14:47] {bruce} k
[14:47] {Chaeron} let you know what happens? You think we're going to come in your shower while you're in there nekkid and tell you what's happening?????
[14:47] {curtisweese} hahahah
[14:47] {Threei} lol
[14:49] {bruce} shhh - don't give mags ideas
[14:52] {Chaeron} oi
[14:58] {dino} rrgb bstop to .42
[15:02] {dino} back in 10 bstop to .31
[15:02] {dino} stopped +.05
[15:03] {GeoArb} dino, if you dont mind.... how many cents do you shoot for in a day?
[15:03] {GeoArb} i am too scared to ask curtis
[15:05] {bruce} taking break
[15:08] {Threei} VLNC, you are so beautiful
[15:08] {Chaeron} get a room............
[15:08] {Threei} {VLNC} (batting eyeleashes at Chaeron) why, I was available...
[15:09] {curtisweese} out rimm made .70
[15:10] {curtisweese} that was a great shower!
[15:10] {Threei} lol
[15:10] {Threei} a bit more information than we strived for
[15:10] {Chaeron} curtis, we don't need to hear of your shower exploits please
[15:10] {curtisweese} lol
[15:11] {dino} geo, just got back from bus stop. not sure on cents? 1/1 r/1, shoot for $700/day
[15:11] {GeoArb} yes thats my Q
[15:12] {GeoArb} 700 can change based on position size
[15:12] {GeoArb} so you dont have a dollar goal
[15:12] {dino} yes. 700 is total daily goal, each trade is on its own
[15:13] {GeoArb} so sizing based on risk i guess
[15:13] {GeoArb} ok
[15:13] {dino} risk reward try for 1:1 min
[15:13] {GeoArb} ok
[15:13] {GeoArb} yeah i read that in vad's "boring" book
[15:13] {dino} when i say sm=smaller size, otherwise 500
[15:13] {GeoArb} ok
[15:13] {GeoArb} i am doing 100/200 rite now
[15:14] {GeoArb} i had seen the vids.... so the book was an easier read
[15:14] {GeoArb} thanks dino
[15:14] {dino} yes, sizing on risk, you watch some of the crazy ones i play. i am a contrarian, and i don't mind thin vol.
[15:14] {GeoArb} ok
[15:15] {dino} i'm looking for 2 buck ranges or better
[15:15] {GeoArb} whats up with MS?
[15:15] {GeoArb} ok
[15:15] {GeoArb} daily range
[15:15] {dino} y
[15:16] {dino} prefer fast 2 buck range
[15:16] {GeoArb} ok
[15:16] {GeoArb} yeah for me countertrend is advanced level
[15:17] {GeoArb} will wait on those :D
[15:17] {dino} find your edge, manage the risk, be consistant, and keep it simple
[15:18] {GeoArb} KIS brought me here
[15:18] {dino} ahhh
[15:18] {GeoArb} i was trying to scalp futures using complex methodologies last one year
[15:18] {GeoArb} wasted a year
[15:18] {dino} hardest thing for me lately is waiting 20 minutes in the a.m.
[15:19] {dino} moves are not true enough
[15:19] {GeoArb} ok so you start after 20 mins....
[15:19] {GeoArb} all stocks open and stabilize
[15:19] {dino} yes, i do much better that way
[15:19] {dino} some days magoo has 3 trasdes in before i start
[15:20] {GeoArb} i am in west coast.... so have to trade only forst half
[15:20] {dino} i guess i'm slow
[15:20] {dino} its all individuals edge, i start slow
[15:21] {GeoArb} surge
[15:21] {GeoArb} in fins
[15:26] {dino} bruce, we should have been watching fmcn
[15:29] * dptl slaps ThurstonHowellTheThird around a bit with a large trout
[15:29] {Threei} violence starts
[15:30] {dptl} ye
[15:30] {dptl} lets have some fun
[15:30] {Threei} uh oh
[15:32] {dptl} everyone in coma,i see
[15:33] * GeoArb slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[15:33] {dptl} :)
[15:33] {GeoArb} i apologize
[15:33] {dino} rrgb s .24, stop .47
[15:34] {dino} dp to timeout
[15:35] {lumdus} s rimmm 105.12
[15:36] {lumdus} .35 stop
[15:37] {lumdus} die rimm die now !
[15:38] {lumdus} stop b/e 105.11
[15:38] {bruce} back
[15:40] {bruce} nice range fmcn dino - I have trouble with it - you've been doinggreat readingit
[15:41] {dino} forgot about it today
[15:41] {lumdus} bsc almost 6.00 can't believe that everybody forgot the buyout is ONLY 2.00
[15:41] {bruce} mon has even bigger range - took my eye off it and see it had a couple niceentires
[15:42] {bruce} v downdraft
[15:42] {bruce} retrace try here for the brave
[15:43] {dino} bsc goes up w/ms, swap of shares involved
[15:46] {Threei} lum, it's not that simple in BSC case
[15:46] {dino} also, if you are a short, you may want to cover and lock in
[15:47] {bruce} ewz looks long to me here
[15:47] {bruce} lagte in day though - not doingany more trades
[15:47] {lumdus} vad, can you help me with rimm.. i need it heavily down not just a few pennies
[15:48] {bruce} vad dusts off extra large and heavy army boots
[15:49] {Threei} oops
[15:49] {Threei} sorry, I kicked it from the wrong side
[15:50] {lumdus} it's trying so hard to fail,, but someone is not letting. we got 10 mins more.
[15:51] {patience} too funny, my stink bids for august gold options are being filled
[15:51] {Threei} nice finish for a difficult week - short one, with Fed announcement AND quad witching
[15:52] {Threei} how many troubles can you squeeze in 4 days
[15:52] {dino} cov rrgb .14, +.10, thats it
[15:52] {Threei} panicking sellers are hitting them patience?
[15:53] {patience} i guess
[15:53] {patience} i still expect gold to go down bit more
[15:54] {dino} i'm expecting more chaos all over
[15:54] {lumdus} oil also and then all banks recover and we forget what happened . And then Clinton become president and we forget everyting.
[15:54] {patience} i'll drink to that
[15:54] {patience} i'll drink to lots though
[15:55] {Threei} LOL
[15:55] {lumdus} dino, i think it's mainly over now . the crisis is history. bsc out of the picture and everybody else ok now.
[15:55] {dino} lol patience, some day we'll drink together
[15:55] {patience} sounds excellent, i'll buy the first draft
[15:55] {Threei} i HOPE i AM INVITED
[15:55] {patience} lum, i expect few months more of financial churning, it aint over
[15:55] {Threei} oops
[15:55] {Threei} sorry caps
[15:55] {dino} when you arrange that cruise vad, lol
[15:56] {Threei} blackmail
[15:56] {Threei} will seminar in bahamas do?
[15:56] {GeoArb} siminar?
[15:56] {patience} yes yes yes
[15:56] {dino} cvco death
[15:56] {Threei} you can write off vacation as a busines expense :)
[15:56] {dino} yes
[15:56] {GeoArb} (upping lot size to 10000 to pay for it)
[15:57] {dino} lol
[15:57] {dptl} have a good long weekend everyone......see ya monday:)
[15:57] {Threei} Ok guys,
[15:57] {Threei} have a great relaxing long weekend,
[15:57] {dino} same dp, take care
[15:57] {GeoArb} thanks all.... see you monday
[15:57] {Threei} thank you all,
[15:57] {dino} thx for ideas all, decent week
[15:57] {Threei} I'll see you all on Monday
[15:58] {bruce} bye vad - good weekend to you
[15:59] {dino} avtr death
[16:00] {dino} bruce good spots again, thx
[16:00] {bruce} thx dino
[16:01] {bruce} tryin
[16:01] {dino} you're making me $
[16:01] {bruce} need to get better at pegging entries in those contra palys - getting better I think
[16:02] {bruce} I can find em - jsut have trouble knowing where to get in
[16:03] {dino} size down wait way out,
[16:03] {dino} they all will rinse you if you buy too big
[16:04] {bruce} I'm trading the contras very small dino
[16:04] {dino} good, i can't catch tops or bottoms, but for the most part the moves are 1/2+
[16:04] {dino} r/r
[16:05] {bruce} yes _ like that a lot
[16:05] {patience} bruce, dcc if you have a minute
[16:06] {dino} i'm grabbing a beer
[16:07] {bruce} have one for me
[16:07] {bruce} noton my diet
[16:23] {bruce} terrific weekend to all
[16:30] {dino} later all
[08:31] {Onix} Good morning
[08:32] {Onix} well .. at least I hope it is going to be a good morning!
[08:34] {Threei} Good morning
[08:35] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 378K V 360KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 2.865M V 2.840ME
- Prior Initial Jobless Claims revised from 353K to 356K
[08:35] {Threei} - Prior Continuing Claims revised from 2.835M to 2.833M
[08:45] {magoo} mornimng
[08:45] {Threei} magoo :)
[08:49] {magoo} hello vad..my scanner says account expires in 2 days ?
[08:50] {Threei} please dcc me your username, I'll check up on this
[08:51] {magoo} the "connected as?"
[08:51] {Threei} yup
[08:52] {magoo} sent
[08:52] {magoo} oh, i emailed
[08:53] {Threei} got it
[08:56] {Threei} check noqw
[08:57] {magoo} wow..your good...186 days ..TY
[08:58] {Threei} welcome :)
[08:58] {Threei} anyone ever traded or observed ABK?
[09:00] {dptl} good morning all
[09:00] {Threei} dp :)
[09:00] {magoo} we played it
[09:00] {Threei} ugh, sorry, wrong symbol
[09:00] {Threei} ABX
[09:01] {Threei} Barrick
[09:02] {Threei} lost major support
[09:02] {Threei} overall has this look and feel of big unwinding
[09:02] {Threei} gotta watch to get a feel for how it trades
[09:03] {tomg} gm all
[09:03] {Threei} tom :)
[09:08] {esemde} good morning/
[09:08] {Threei} ese :)
[09:09] {dino} gm all
[09:09] {Threei} dino :)
[09:10] {dino} abx gold stock
[09:10] {Threei} yup, Barrick
[09:10] {dino} gold lost about 6% yesterday, thats about $60/ounce
[09:10] {Threei} not gold stock... THE gold stock :)
[09:11] {dino} hmmmm, 3i getting emotional
[09:11] {patience} i trade Barrick frequently, mostly options....Barrick broke below $48...and is in trouble. Bought puts in ABX and other golds this week
[09:11] {GeoArb} gm all
[09:11] {Threei} geo :)
[09:11] {patience} gm btw :)
[09:12] {Threei} morning patience :)
[09:12] {dino} patience, your nick should be the oracle
[09:12] {patience} nope, i just spend alot of time reading lol
[09:13] {dino} :)
[09:13] {Threei} see... I always knew it was good for you to know letters and have the skill to put them together so they form words
[09:13] {Threei} also, to read makes us speak English good
[09:15] {Threei} (poor Raven)
[09:16] {Raven}
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[09:16] {bruce} are thre options in bsc - if so shoulda bought puts a week or so back
[09:17] {Threei} better yet, on 10/052007
[09:17] {Threei} V
[09:17] {Threei} UNDERWRITERS EXERCISE OVERALLOTMENT OPTION OF 40.6M SHRS
[09:17] {Threei} now, why would they do that
[09:20] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} gm all
[09:20] {Threei} thtt :)
[09:22] {magoo} vad, quick ?
[09:22] {bruce} big drop into support bvn yesterday dino
[09:22] {magoo} when u make call..say loss of ..99
[09:23] {magoo} are u watching and entering manually or is there som limit order auto?
[09:23] {Threei} manually
[09:23] {Threei} you can set auto via OMS I believe
[09:23] {magoo} cause i keep missing enntries
[09:23] {magoo} have to chase a little
[09:23] {Threei} this is a matter of a stock being thick enough for entry
[09:23] {magoo} 'seems they are sitting and then woosh
[09:23] {Threei} not the manual vs auto
[09:24] {Threei} if there are no bids to hit, however you send it won't make a difference
[09:24] {magoo} like JPM sh last afternoon...u said like .99..woosh
[09:24] {Threei} that's why my limits are a bit beyond the price I want
[09:24] {magoo} it went thru it to .89 in blink.. i missed
[09:24] {bruce} isn't that the way it goes mags? - the ones that really break deciseively tend to best winners
[09:25] {bruce} but don't give muchchance to enter w/out chasing
[09:25] {Threei} it's simply a matter of defining how far you are willing to chase, setting order there and adjusting your size accordingly
[09:26] {Threei} if there are shares available at better price you'll get them
[09:26] {magoo} how far do u recommend chasing?..say on that JPM
[09:26] {Threei} if not, you'll get your limit
[09:26] {Threei} and if no shares even there, oh well
[09:26] {Threei} my usual is 3-5 cents
[09:26] {magoo} ok..
[09:26] {magoo} see V spike
[09:26] {Threei} if it wooshes by I wait a little for possible bounce
[09:27] {Threei} if it continues decisively not giving me a fill I cancel
[09:27] {dino} bvn commodity stock
[09:27] {bruce} k
[09:27] {bruce} pot as well - looks like reversal candidate
[09:29] {bruce} same pattern mon
[09:29] {magoo} vad, how come we haven't been playing QID lately?
[09:29] {Threei} you've seen much pattern following in NASDAQ chart? :)
[09:30] {dino} nov interesting, apol watching
[09:30] {bruce} k
[09:31] {dino} ibn downgrade
[09:31] {Threei} watching ABX bounce with idea of short at 43.05
[09:31] {Threei} 43 limit for order
[09:31] {Threei} if sets up from here stop above .30
[09:31] {bruce} crox vad
[09:32] {Threei} got .05
[09:32] {magoo} see.i didn't get that
[09:32] {Threei} half out .66
[09:32] {Threei} stop 43.10
[09:33] {Threei} out
[09:34] {Threei} how did you send it magoo?
[09:35] {Threei} RUSSIAN SECURITY SERVICE DETAINS TNK-BP OFFICIAL, BRITISH COUNCIL, CHARGES HIM WITH COMMERCIAL ESPIONAGE
[09:35] {Threei} welcome to cold war, part 2
[09:36] {GeoArb} vad.... you and putin need to talk...
[09:36] {dino} sit him in the clink for a year before deciding what to do
[09:36] {GeoArb} really....
[09:36] {Chaeron} GM all
[09:36] {Threei} chaeron :)
[09:36] {cosmo} espionage is the worlds second oldest profession...
[09:36] {bruce} lol cosmo
[09:37] {Threei} 07:01am [IDMI] Reports Q4 -$0.11 v -$0.26e, R $5.6M v $3.2M
[09:38] {Threei} couldn't read re-entry for ABX, bounce was a bit too wide
[09:40] {Threei} MF .50 break short
[09:40] {Threei} over .65 invalidated
[09:41] {Threei} .61 stop
[09:42] {magoo} in that
[09:42] {Chaeron} here too
[09:42] {magoo} if bruce is also..kiss of death
[09:42] {magoo} the 3 of us
[09:43] {magoo} vad, news BIDU?
[09:43] {magoo} down 70 points in 6 days
[09:43] {dino} fwlt blood
[09:44] {Threei} half out MF
[09:44] {bruce} im in mags - sorry
[09:44] {Threei} +.29
[09:44] {Threei} stop .51
[09:45] {Threei} even bruce couldn't kill this play, that's how good it was {G}
[09:45] {bruce} out mf =.20
[09:45] {dptl} +.16 for me mf ty
[09:45] {GeoArb} .2 for me TY
[09:45] {magoo} out TY vad
[09:45] {Threei} welcome guys
[09:46] {bruce} I should just announce the ones I neter so you folks can bail immediately
[09:46] {Threei} yeah, and leave you to profit alone?
[09:46] {Threei} out balance
[09:47] {Threei} got greedy a bit
[09:47] {bruce} I'm not greedy
[09:47] {Threei} had bid for second half at .05
[09:47] {Threei} and thing bottomed at .08
[09:47] {bruce} I thought a drop to 8 was reasonable in it but gald I dumped when it started to spike
[09:48] {Threei} everyone forgot about VLNC swing trade alert from yesterday I am sure
[09:49] {bruce} ibn looks like possible long now dino
[09:50] {dino} thinking same
[09:51] {dino} no, cx that, was thinking bvn
[09:51] {dino} ibn, i want yo short near hod
[09:51] {bruce} k
[09:51] {bruce} watching it too - ibn had a spike needs to drop again
[09:52] {bruce} mon had nice dump and recovery but don't see any way to have played it
[09:52] {dino} missed
[09:53] {Threei} FDRY .70 break long
[09:55] {bruce} if fdry breaks looks like stop needs to be .57 or so - what you thinking vad?
[09:55] {Threei} watching this pullback to define stop
[09:55] {bruce} k
[09:55] {dino} gold -$30 more bucks
[09:56] {Threei} ABX 43 resistance
[09:56] {Threei} worth a shot on short side, small shares
[09:56] {Threei} stop above 43
[09:57] {Threei} with attempt to hold it for bigger move
[09:57] {dino} bvn sm l .34
[09:57] {magoo} entry?\
[09:57] {magoo} ABX entry?
[09:58] {Threei} it has no trigger
[09:58] {Threei} as close to 43 as you can get, small shares
[09:58] {Threei} so you would be comfortable with stop
[09:58] {bruce} k- wondered if you had entered it already vad
[09:58] {Threei} .73
[09:59] {Threei} and VLNC .24
[09:59] {Threei} VLNC not a day trade most likely
[09:59] {Threei} SOLF TICKING HIGHER ON TAKEOVER CHATTER- Sunpower rumored as potential acquirer{
[10:00] {bruce} k
[10:00] {hawkfan4} grabbed vlnc at the close yesterday vad, .09
[10:00] {Threei} *FEB LEADING INDICATORS: -0.3% V -0.3%E- prior revised from -0.1% to -0.4%
[10:00] {Threei} *MARCH PHILADELPHIA FED INDEX: -17 V -19E
[10:00] {dino} oih $ move
[10:00] {dino} uip
[10:00] {dino} up
[10:01] {Threei} FDRY stop .59
[10:03] {dino} out bvn 66.34, +2.00
[10:03] {Threei} stopped ABX
[10:04] {dino} tough crowd
[10:04] {hawkfan4} nice dino :)
[10:04] {bruce} wow dino
[10:04] {bruce} you must have cuaght alost exact bottome bvn
[10:04] {dino} ty, bruce's spot
[10:05] {dino} i posted see above 64.34
[10:06] {dino} ibn you were right, i was wrong
[10:06] {dino} never entered
[10:09] {dino} gtls
[10:09] {curtisweese} l aapl 130.47 morning!
[10:09] {bruce} we'll find more
[10:09] {Threei} morning curtis
[10:10] {Threei} VLNC, my little beauty
[10:13] {esemde} NUAN long 18.24 1/2
[10:13] {Threei} looked at it too ese, and missed
[10:14] {Threei} looks promising
[10:14] {esemde} just barely got in Vad......didn't think I was going to get in either
[10:15] {esemde} I think I have goofy broker ...get these weird fills
[10:16] {Threei} scalpers can trail FDRY stop to .64
[10:17] {dino} who's your broker, disney?
[10:17] {Chaeron} lol
[10:17] {esemde} I think so dino....
[10:18] {esemde} Questrade in Toronto
[10:19] {curtisweese} jeez dino... +$2?!?!?! nice!
[10:20] {dino} lucky
[10:21] {bruce} bvn still looking long dino - would prefer an entry near 66
[10:23] {Threei} beautiful NUAN
[10:23] {bruce} what do y9ou think of ptr long dino?
[10:24] {dino} 65.50
[10:24] {dino} bvn
[10:24] {Threei} FDRY almost 1:1
[10:24] {esemde} OUT NUAN .49 + .25
[10:24] {Threei} wtg
[10:24] {esemde} 1:1
[10:24] {dino} trades w/oil, petro china
[10:24] {bruce} k
[10:24] {esemde} worked like a diagram that time....
[10:25] {esemde} it's going higher though
[10:25] {dino} pull the oih use it as a guide
[10:26] {bruce} abx looks long vad
[10:26] {bruce} got it up dino
[10:26] {dino} odfl thoughts
[10:27] {curtisweese} out aapl made .51
[10:28] {bruce} 2 buck spike in cree dino- may have short potential
[10:29] {dino} can't borrow cree for me
[10:29] {bruce} would hate to go long odfl long here
[10:29] {dino} i like it short here fwiw
[10:30] {bruce} I like itshort - but inclined to wait for it to start fading
[10:30] {curtisweese} l aapl 130.59
[10:31] {bruce} risk is small if we truy short here
[10:31] {bruce} just as well we waited - breaking some new highs
[10:32] {dino} cree?
[10:32] {dino} i was talking cree
[10:32] {dino} ibn break of .00 s
[10:33] {bruce} l abx .36 w 20c stop
[10:33] {dino} oih hod
[10:35] {dino} risky, sm l drys .10
[10:35] {bruce} stopped abx
[10:35] {esemde} morning patience........did the power just go out at your place.....mine just went out over here?
[10:39] {bruce} l exz at74 15c stop
[10:41] {bruce} stopped ewz - drat
[10:41] {dino} drys stopped
[10:41] {dino} -.50 sm
[10:43] {bruce} sorry dino - I hate drys - never had winning trade in it
[10:44] {dino} nov l .50, stop .18
[10:45] {dino} mdvn
[10:45] {dino} drys off my screen
[10:47] {Threei} RIMM .41 long if holding above .25
[10:48] {curtisweese} i'm still long aapl...stuck in pretty much even :(
[10:48] {Threei} over 1:1 RIMM
[10:49] {dino} out nov
[10:49] {dino} +.54
[10:50] {curtisweese} dino is on fire!
[10:50] {Threei} that's his usual state
[10:50] {dino} somebody save me, the mask
[10:51] {Threei} we normally keep fire-extinguisher around him
[10:51] {bruce} nice one dino
[10:52] {Threei} out RIMM in full +.54
[10:52] {GeoArb} missed rimm.... did 42 limit
[10:52] {GeoArb} must be doing something wrong
[10:52] {Threei} 1 cent is a bit too small for volatile stock
[10:52] {GeoArb} :)
[10:53] {magoo} out 07 rimm TY
[10:53] {Threei} welcome
[10:53] {Threei} VLNC makes my day
[10:53] {Threei} new 52 week high
[10:54] {dino} mdvn l .00, stop .83
[10:54] {curtisweese} out aapl made .24
[10:55] {curtisweese} s aapl stop at 131.05
[10:55] {Onix} Enjoy .. gotta go to regular job now
[10:56] {bruce} l apol 55.09 - stop 15c
[10:56] {dino} bid falling out of avtr
[10:56] {Threei} take care onix
[10:56] {dino} later onix
[10:57] {curtisweese} out on aapl...had a weird fill and bailed on everything :)
[10:58] {dino} rrgb
[10:59] {tomg} brcm vad?
[10:59] {Threei} if market spikes here it's scalpable
[11:00] {tomg} ty
[11:00] {Threei} I wouldn't count on more, this one requires sizeable rally to move bigger
[11:00] {Threei} rally very well may be in cards
[11:01] {Threei} but there is no really way to tell the odds
[11:02] {tomg} have to leave soon, better stay out
[11:02] {Threei} anyone took VLNC?
[11:03] {Threei} I didn't provide timely commentary on partialing out thinking that no one did
[11:03] {Threei} let me know if there is a need
[11:03] {hawkfan4} in vlnc from .09
[11:03] {Threei} from yeasterday?
[11:03] {hawkfan4} yep
[11:04] {Threei} I dumped half at .44
[11:04] {tomg} have a nice weekend everyone
[11:04] {Threei} but I had a bit too big position initisally for comfortable holding
[11:04] {curtisweese} bye tom!
[11:04] {Threei} take care tom
[11:04] {esemde} you figurew VLNC has more upside VAD
[11:04] {curtisweese} people sell on short weeks?
[11:04] {curtisweese} 4 day weeks i mean? at end of day?
[11:04] {Threei} feels this way ese
[11:05] {Threei} curtis... depends
[11:05] {Threei} some sell... sme buy
[11:05] {curtisweese} oh...ok...thanks for clarifying hahahahha
[11:05] {Threei} you didn't think it was that simple, did ya? :)
[11:06] {Threei} if tyhere was such certain pattern, everyone would use it and make milions in one day
[11:07] {Threei} question remains, who would have taken the other side of their sells
[11:07] {Threei} since pattern is so certain, why would anyone buy :)
[11:07] {curtisweese} cuz me dumb
[11:07] {curtisweese} l aapl here :)
[11:08] {curtisweese} all aboard the aapl bandwagon!
[11:09] {Threei} {AAPL} hey, don't pile up on me
[11:09] {curtisweese} tight stop...but it's free money :P
[11:10] {bruce} half out apol +.40
[11:10] {Threei} wtg bruce
[11:10] {Threei} what's free money?
[11:10] {curtisweese} nice bruce!!!
[11:10] {curtisweese} aapl at 130.34 there....bottom of it's channel for last hour or so
[11:11] {curtisweese} i mean channel it's following for last hour
[11:11] {bruce} thanx peoples
[11:11] {Threei} yep, I see it
[11:11] {curtisweese} but might fall below now :(
[11:11] {curtisweese} jinxed myself
[11:11] {Threei} market drop takes it down
[11:12] {curtisweese} hahah market slaps me in the face!
[11:14] {dino} rrgb s .76 sm
[11:20] {dino} mdvn stop to .89 not working
[11:23] {Threei} dino
[11:23] {Threei} believe it or not... canadian TV talks about Constanza trading
[11:24] {dino} opposites
[11:24] {dino} ?
[11:24] {Threei} yup
[11:24] {curtisweese} i will have the tuna. my name is george, i don't have a job and i live with my parents
[11:25] {Threei} but they actually applied this terminology
[11:25] {dino} too funny, but actually makes sense, average person will be wrong so go contrary
[11:25] {curtisweese} come on aapl....break this upper resistance darn you!
[11:25] {dino} stealing our lines vad
[11:26] {Threei} no kidding... who is in here CCBC spy, confess
[11:26] {dino} ok, somebody kick rrbg in the nuts so it will drop
[11:27] {Threei} FDRY almost 1:2
[11:27] {Threei} feel free to take profit
[11:27] {curtisweese} i will have some if you are handing it out
[11:28] {Threei} I just call'em... FDRY hands it out
[11:28] {GeoArb} vad's gracious heheh
[11:28] {Threei} ain't I always {G}
[11:28] {bruce} out balance apol +.93
[11:28] {Threei} bruce is killing it today
[11:29] {curtisweese} awesome bruce!!!
[11:29] {dino} wtgb bruce, in the zone
[11:29] {bruce} just lucky vad
[11:29] {bruce} thanx dino
[11:29] {Threei} you know who luck favors
[11:29] {bruce} yes - curtis
[11:29] {Threei} lol
[11:29] {GeoArb} lol
[11:30] {curtisweese} hahahaha
[11:30] {dino} ceph
[11:30] {curtisweese} hopefully some of you jumped in aapl
[11:30] {dino} cancer approval
[11:30] {curtisweese} for a little scalp :P
[11:30] {Threei} CEPH FDA APPROVES TREANDA FOR CHRONIC LYMPHOCYTIC LEUKEMIA
[11:31] {bruce} on radar dino
[11:33] {dino} hmm was thinking long
[11:35] {judi} checking in from Judi and Jim, Judi's off to psychology practice, Jim's tuned in
[11:35] {curtisweese} how does that make you feel?
[11:36] {Threei} hi Jim
[11:36] {dino} sm l .70
[11:37] {judi} good morning Vad and all
[11:37] {Threei} missed a few nice ones
[11:37] {GeoArb} yeah vad's on fire
[11:37] {GeoArb} i erased yesterday AND the day before's shame
[11:38] {dino} gj geo
[11:38] {Threei} gosh... is fella allowed to have couple lukewarm days around here
[11:38] {dino} penx, fcsx blood
[11:38] {GeoArb} :D
[11:38] {Threei} :)
[11:38] {Threei} FNCM lost its mind
[11:39] {bruce} still lookingat ceph dino?
[11:39] {bruce} retrace long near here imo
[11:40] {dino} see above sm l .70
[11:40] {dino} 63.70
[11:41] {dino} strange it won't go on that news
[11:42] {bruce} or else mms having some fun right now w nasty head fake
[11:42] {judi} Judi and I have agreed that I only watch when she is not here because of a couple bad days (:
[11:42] {dino} ok reuters out w/it now
[11:42] {judi} only temporary
[11:42] {dino} don't think naz has mm's
[11:42] {bruce} wow - more than head fake there - maybe some new news
[11:43] {Threei} not that I see
[11:43] {dino} stoppig -.40 sm
[11:44] {bruce} k - I was just abpoiut to enter when it tqanked
[11:44] {bruce} its a nice entry near 63 again but I'd like to see it calm down and drift to there
[11:44] {dino} dk on it
[11:45] {dino} fcsx?
[11:45] {dptl} it's a long weekend,right?
[11:46] {bruce} ewz looks short on .50 break
[11:46] {Threei} yes dp
[11:46] {Threei} Good Friday
[11:46] {Threei} although if you ask me, any Friday is good
[11:46] {dptl} open monday?
[11:46] {Threei} yup
[11:46] {dptl} ty
[11:46] {curtisweese} wow look at aapl!!
[11:46] {curtisweese} dove like $1
[11:47] {bruce} missed ewz -moved too fast
[11:47] {dino} nihd
[11:48] {Threei} NASNY
[11:48] {Threei} EXEC: MARCH SALES TRACKING COMPANY OBJECTIVES 'AMAZINGLY' WELL TO DATE- Expect to gain US market share in March
[11:48] {Threei} NSANY
[11:48] {Threei} I knew there was a reason I liked Nissan... both cars in the family are from them
[11:50] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:50] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:50] {judi} since entering chat room ,havent had an off day though
[11:51] {bruce} q's now at yesterdays lows - breakdown or bounce time?
[11:52] {Threei} magoo... any idea why bruce is bludgeoning us?
[11:52] {magoo} because he can
[11:52] {Threei} feels like breakdown bruce
[11:52] {bruce} k
[11:52] {dino} makes sense
[11:52] {bruce} thanx vad
[11:53] {bruce} thats to vad for not trading tomorrow
[11:53] {Threei} I thought he hated my Nissan
[11:53] {bruce} and to you mags to keep you awake
[11:53] {bruce} no need to thank me
[11:54] {bruce} if we get breakdown nvda and amgn look like short candidates
[11:56] {bruce} nissans are nice vad - toyota better
[11:56] {Threei} I am cold to Toyota
[11:57] {GeoArb} i have always owned mazdas..... zoom zoom
[11:57] {bruce} k - you had one w faulty heater?
[11:58] {Threei} lol
[11:59] {Threei} too boring and and too mainstream for my taste
[11:59] {curtisweese} nvda short? hmmmif below 17.95?
[12:00] {Threei} market getting too jerky here curtis
[12:00] {curtisweese} k
[12:05] {dino} this rrgb remoinds me of bwld yesterday
[12:06] {bruce} ewz long prospect dino?
[12:06] {dino} dk bruce
[12:07] {bruce} k
[12:08] {Chaeron} http://www.nyse.com/about/newsevents/1176373643795.html
[12:08] {Chaeron} too many dang holidays
[12:08] {dino} its a brazil fund, if commodities down i suppose it to, really no idea
[12:09] {bruce} k- you know this stuff by memory?
[12:10] {dino} no, my acct shows it to me automatically
[12:10] {bruce} k- cool
[12:10] {GeoArb} laser? or something else?
[12:10] {dino} schwab streetsmartpro, used to be cybertrader
[12:10] {GeoArb} ah yeas heard of it
[12:11] {dino} watching nov w/oih
[12:15] {curtisweese} market breakdown coming?
[12:15] {Threei} really can't tell here
[12:16] {bruce} extremely narrow range day for q's today
[12:16] {Threei} something or someone supports market every time when it looks like it's ready to melt
[12:16] {dino} l nov .00, stop .67
[12:17] {curtisweese} nvda at top of channel
[12:18] {bruce} l nov at .88 dino
[12:20] {dino} stopped no work
[12:21] {bruce} yep
[12:22] {dino} sorry, gone cold
[12:22] {dino} bvn
[12:22] {bruce} oih dumped
[12:23] {Threei} CIT
[12:23] {Threei} was hatled earlier
[12:24] {dino} credit watch cit
[12:24] {Threei} yeah, and whole bunch of troubles
[12:24] {dino} drawdowns credit facilities
[12:25] {dino} watch other financials
[12:26] {bruce} l adbe .51 stop .44
[12:26] {dino} rrgb bstop to .36
[12:27] {curtisweese} s rimm
[12:27] {dino} make it .31
[12:28] {dino} cov slip .34 +.42
[12:28] {lumdus} vad, is there options expiriation today ?
[12:29] {Threei} hmm
[12:29] {Threei} I don't think so unless I missed something
[12:30] {Threei} which is quite possible
[12:30] {Threei} it's kind of hard to track this things while being in permanent coma
[12:30] {GeoArb} triple witching today
[12:30] {Threei} ready?
[12:30] {Threei} really?
[12:30] {lumdus} trading feels like it today.
[12:30] {dino} schwab said something about sat.
[12:30] {Threei} sheesh... I am out of touch
[12:31] {GeoArb} thats what the stock trader almanac says
[12:31] {Threei} thanks geo
[12:31] {lumdus} yeah, it just felt like that kind of day...
[12:31] {Threei} morning was good
[12:31] {lumdus} so why you in a permanent coma ?
[12:31] {Threei} we had what, one stop?
[12:31] {Threei} I like it lum
[12:32] {GeoArb} interesting econoday says quad witchnig
[12:32] {Threei} great justific ation for being lazy
[12:32] {GeoArb} morning was excellent
[12:32] {lumdus} i logged in the morning, didn't like anything - so i left. came back still don't like anything.. maybe i go away soon.
[12:32] {Threei} blood supply to brain is diminished greatly, which leaves more for stomach etc
[12:33] {curtisweese} does rimm short look right vad?
[12:33] {Threei} stop above .50?
[12:33] {curtisweese} i'm short at 103.25 yeah.... .55 stop
[12:34] {Threei} so far so good, market is helping at the moment
[12:34] {Threei} control risk by partialing out if you want to try and ride it
[12:35] {Threei} it has a good chance for breakdown, just need toat force that keeps market afloat to go away
[12:35] {Threei} you have over 1:1
[12:39] {curtisweese} out rimm short made .47
[12:39] {curtisweese} good timing
[12:40] {Threei} wtg
[12:41] {dptl} jblu?
[12:42] {Threei} chart's right, just too narrow
[12:42] {dptl} ok
[12:42] {Threei} scalp on a small move, maybe
[12:44] {curtisweese} s rimm 103.33 stop .55 or so
[12:45] {dino} omab
[12:46] {curtisweese} out .03
[12:46] {bruce} mer looks short
[12:50] {bruce} mer invalid as short for now
[12:52] {bruce} fcsx dino = possible bounce near here
[12:55] {dino} yes waiting at .50
[12:55] {bruce} k
[12:56] {bruce} bvn possible long here too-
[12:56] {dino} missed at 64.50
[12:56] {dino} reading my mind
[12:56] {dino} fcsx sm l .50, risky
[12:57] {bruce} k - trouble here is may go but may drop quick - your thoughts?
[12:57] {dino} too soon
[12:57] {curtisweese} s mer ....gonna try it here :)
[12:57] {bruce} k
[12:57] {dino} crazy market it was 40 on friday
[12:58] {dino} heck 34 yesterday
[12:58] {esemde} am outta here for a couple of hours....will maybe see you all later
[12:59] {Threei} take care ese
[12:59] {esemde} see ya vad
[12:59] {bruce} bye ese
[12:59] {bruce} good entry curtis - small stop if it doesn't work
[12:59] {curtisweese} die market and mer
[13:01] {dino} eqix?
[13:02] {bruce} looks good dino or bounce
[13:02] {bruce} fior
[13:02] {dino} lol
[13:03] {dino} or, fior = for i guess
[13:04] {bruce} yep - sorry - took my typing lessons from vad
[13:05] {dino} fcsx stop to .19
[13:05] {bruce} lets see if it holds .26
[13:05] {bruce} k - not in yet
[13:05] {dino} out fcsx .17, +.67
[13:06] {dino} rinsed my stop
[13:06] {dino} ohhhh mannnnnnn (as swiper would say)
[13:07] {GeoArb} heh swiper.......i have to watch that with my kids everyday
[13:07] {dino} lol, thats the one
[13:08] {bruce} nice one dino
[13:09] {bruce} nov - possible long from here dino
[13:09] {dino} sm l eqix .50 stop .18
[13:10] {dino} only nov if oih goes
[13:10] {dino} imo, fwiw, lol
[13:10] {bruce} k
[13:11] {dino} rrgb up again
[13:14] {bruce} leqixas well .51
[13:16] {bruce} whats your target eqix? - thinking .80
[13:17] {dino} .90s
[13:17] {bruce} k
[13:17] {Threei} NASDAQ narrowed greatly and started forming descending triangle
[13:17] {curtisweese} what's that mean?
[13:17] {dino} might be expecting too much, but thats me
[13:18] {Threei} NQ breaking 1725 should trigger selloff
[13:18] {curtisweese} good cuz i'm still shorting mer lol'
[13:18] {Threei} unless PTT intrudes again
[13:18] {Threei} PPT
[13:18] {Threei} my typing becomes worse and worse
[13:19] {dino} ptt=profit tag team
[13:19] {Threei} all pessimists saying it couldn't get any worse are being put to shame
[13:19] {Threei} it CAN!
[13:20] {dino} auxl?
[13:21] {dino} wouldn't that be optimists
[13:22] {Threei} I'll have to ponder that over weekend
[13:22] {Threei} providing I get enough blood/oxygen supply to brain
[13:23] {curtisweese} out mer short lost .20
[13:23] {dino} i intend to get the alcohol ratio up
[13:24] {dino} eqix maybe you're right bruce
[13:26] {bruce} we'll see - stuck now if it break .75 now thinking it'll go to 58- break is the ?
[13:30] {dino} nov l .25 careful
[13:37] {curtisweese} l ceph 63.74
[13:37] {curtisweese} not very much movement but i need a break and want to own something....hahahaa
[13:38] {curtisweese} seems like it should have moved up more with that news.....stupid news
[13:38] {dino} out nov .75, +.50
[13:40] {dino} magoo's gonna be pissed on ceph at 63.74
[13:40] {magoo} :)
[13:40] {curtisweese} i got out right away...don't want to be handcuffed to it
[13:41] {dino} its all about the size play in this market magoo
[13:41] {dino} prevent rinses
[13:42] {bruce} nice one dino
[13:42] {bruce} just dumped eqix+.20
[13:42] {dino} gj
[13:42] {dino} you missed nov? oih gave the entry
[13:43] {bruce} I wanted 58 but \kept struggling at .80 level
[13:43] {bruce} yes - only doing one trade at time
[13:43] {dino} ok
[13:43] {bruce} I saw nov and liked it - you had gret entry
[13:44] {dino} i prefer "lucky" entry
[13:45] {bruce} lol
[13:45] {bruce} better to be lucky than smart
[13:45] {bruce} for that matter - better to be lucky than dumb too
[13:46] {dino} better lucky than good (being good is too hard)
[13:46] {bruce} I like bad- more fun
[13:46] {dino} rrgb hod
[13:46] {Threei} or as ancient russian joke goes, better be healthy and wealthy than sick and at war
[13:47] {dino} pretty bad when the movers are buffalo wild wings and red robin burgers
[13:47] {curtisweese} l aapl here for run i hope! 130.92
[13:47] {bruce} thats a good one vad
[13:48] {dino} fwiw i am waiting sm s rrgb 38.80, purely a random area
[13:48] {Threei} hawk... VLNC :)
[13:48] {bruce} k
[13:49] {dino} on rrgb the profit ( if any ) will be luck, the stop is the skill
[13:50] {hawkfan4} :) nice move
[13:50] {dino} quite the range on fwlt
[13:55] {dino} out eqix .90, +.40
[13:55] {bruce} yes - first hour was big
[13:56] {bruce} good for you dino - I had no guts to hold
[13:56] {dino} ty, was a pain, but worked out, gappy
[13:56] {bruce} I lost confidnece on the stall at .8
[13:57] {curtisweese} come on aapl darn you.....help me help you
[13:58] {bruce} it actually looks good to me now for a move to 58.50 or so but no way I'denter here
[13:58] {dino} problem is the drawdown to 57.55 was consistant
[13:59] {curtisweese} you need someone to enter somewhere stupid?
[13:59] {curtisweese} lol
[13:59] {bruce} yes - too much risk of big pullback her
[13:59] {bruce} lol curtis
[14:00] {curtisweese} i have a super tight stop on aapl
[14:00] {bruce} you voluntering?
[14:00] {dino} lol
[14:00] {dino} brb
[14:00] {bruce} k
[14:06] {curtisweese} doh! stupid stop hit just enough to take my order and then it bounced up! grrrrrrr
[14:06] {Threei} supertight stops tend to do that
[14:06] {curtisweese} yep
[14:09] {dino} move rrgb s to 39.24 entry
[14:09] {dino} too strong
[14:09] {bruce} any feel on esrx long break of 61.20 vad?
[14:09] {bruce} sory 61.3
[14:10] {Threei} if market continues upward, certainly
[14:10] {Threei} PPT did fantastic job keeping NQ away from dangerous 1725
[14:10] {curtisweese} l aapl 130.92
[14:11] {Threei} will they try to prop it further or will they just remain satisfied by no meltdown ahead of long weekend, who knows
[14:11] {bruce} esrx invalid now - retraced too far
[14:12] {Threei} why, as long as it's holding above 61 it's valid
[14:13] {magoo} rimm sh vad??
[14:14] {dino} maybe the 38.80 area is the spot on rrgb
[14:15] {bruce} it broke to .93 vad - wanted to see it form a smaller tighter range
[14:15] {bruce} bvn long here dino?
[14:16] {dino} dk, liked it better 65
[14:16] {bruce} k
[14:17] {bruce} riimsky strating to look like short candidate
[14:18] {curtisweese} i'm in on RIMM s 105.10
[14:18] {bruce} k curtis
[14:18] {dino} rrgb sm s .36
[14:18] {curtisweese} stop where? .39?
[14:19] {dino} stop hod
[14:19] {curtisweese} die rimm!!!!!!!!!!!11
[14:20] {curtisweese} out rimm short.....made .20 i moved my stop too close :(
[14:21] {bruce} still beats loss - congrats curits
[14:22] {dino} gj
[14:22] {curtisweese} back in again 105 this time
[14:25] {curtisweese} here comes the fall of RIMM ....like the roman empire.... have mercy market.....you had me at hello
[14:25] {bruce} in rush the heathens
[14:26] {dino} lol
[14:27] {dino} curtis, how old are you?
[14:27] {dino} cracking me up
[14:28] * Threei hopes the answer is within 12 and 79
[14:28] {curtisweese} 37
[14:28] {Threei} whew
[14:28] {curtisweese} my name is billy i'm 5
[14:28] {Chaeron} your spelling is better than most grownups here, Billy
[14:28] {dino} fat bastard here
[14:29] {curtisweese} thanc yu
[14:30] {curtisweese} sheesh was up $13k in 3 days and am down today $1k i need to follow the chat trades more, eh.....these tuition fees are killing me
[14:30] {dino} 13k you should have your own room
[14:31] {GeoArb} can i make 13 k trading 100 share lots?
[14:31] {curtisweese} it was luck on that RIMM short over the weekend....so technically 4 days
[14:31] {dino} that my monthly goal
[14:31] {GeoArb} the funny part is scottrade
[14:31] {curtisweese} $14 in and out for 20000 shares of siri and stuff is nice
[14:32] {curtisweese} or 7 in and 7 out
[14:32] {curtisweese} still learning then i might try out your guys one :)
[14:33] {dino} stick w/what works curtis, otherwise you'll mess up
[14:33] {dino} bvn was good bruce
[14:34] {bruce} gg longcandidate on 38 break
[14:36] {magoo} RIMM long vad??
[14:37] {Threei} not sure... wouldn't make new high when NQ did
[14:39] {dino} oih flat
[14:43] {bruce} out gg flat- shoulda taken .15 spike
[14:43] {bruce} you got bvn dino?
[14:46] {dino} n
[14:46] {curtisweese} stop on RIMM at 105.05 gotta go shower let me know what happens :) brb
[14:47] {bruce} k
[14:47] {Chaeron} let you know what happens? You think we're going to come in your shower while you're in there nekkid and tell you what's happening?????
[14:47] {curtisweese} hahahah
[14:47] {Threei} lol
[14:49] {bruce} shhh - don't give mags ideas
[14:52] {Chaeron} oi
[14:58] {dino} rrgb bstop to .42
[15:02] {dino} back in 10 bstop to .31
[15:02] {dino} stopped +.05
[15:03] {GeoArb} dino, if you dont mind.... how many cents do you shoot for in a day?
[15:03] {GeoArb} i am too scared to ask curtis
[15:05] {bruce} taking break
[15:08] {Threei} VLNC, you are so beautiful
[15:08] {Chaeron} get a room............
[15:08] {Threei} {VLNC} (batting eyeleashes at Chaeron) why, I was available...
[15:09] {curtisweese} out rimm made .70
[15:10] {curtisweese} that was a great shower!
[15:10] {Threei} lol
[15:10] {Threei} a bit more information than we strived for
[15:10] {Chaeron} curtis, we don't need to hear of your shower exploits please
[15:10] {curtisweese} lol
[15:11] {dino} geo, just got back from bus stop. not sure on cents? 1/1 r/1, shoot for $700/day
[15:11] {GeoArb} yes thats my Q
[15:12] {GeoArb} 700 can change based on position size
[15:12] {GeoArb} so you dont have a dollar goal
[15:12] {dino} yes. 700 is total daily goal, each trade is on its own
[15:13] {GeoArb} so sizing based on risk i guess
[15:13] {GeoArb} ok
[15:13] {dino} risk reward try for 1:1 min
[15:13] {GeoArb} ok
[15:13] {GeoArb} yeah i read that in vad's "boring" book
[15:13] {dino} when i say sm=smaller size, otherwise 500
[15:13] {GeoArb} ok
[15:13] {GeoArb} i am doing 100/200 rite now
[15:14] {GeoArb} i had seen the vids.... so the book was an easier read
[15:14] {GeoArb} thanks dino
[15:14] {dino} yes, sizing on risk, you watch some of the crazy ones i play. i am a contrarian, and i don't mind thin vol.
[15:14] {GeoArb} ok
[15:15] {dino} i'm looking for 2 buck ranges or better
[15:15] {GeoArb} whats up with MS?
[15:15] {GeoArb} ok
[15:15] {GeoArb} daily range
[15:15] {dino} y
[15:16] {dino} prefer fast 2 buck range
[15:16] {GeoArb} ok
[15:16] {GeoArb} yeah for me countertrend is advanced level
[15:17] {GeoArb} will wait on those :D
[15:17] {dino} find your edge, manage the risk, be consistant, and keep it simple
[15:18] {GeoArb} KIS brought me here
[15:18] {dino} ahhh
[15:18] {GeoArb} i was trying to scalp futures using complex methodologies last one year
[15:18] {GeoArb} wasted a year
[15:18] {dino} hardest thing for me lately is waiting 20 minutes in the a.m.
[15:19] {dino} moves are not true enough
[15:19] {GeoArb} ok so you start after 20 mins....
[15:19] {GeoArb} all stocks open and stabilize
[15:19] {dino} yes, i do much better that way
[15:19] {dino} some days magoo has 3 trasdes in before i start
[15:20] {GeoArb} i am in west coast.... so have to trade only forst half
[15:20] {dino} i guess i'm slow
[15:20] {dino} its all individuals edge, i start slow
[15:21] {GeoArb} surge
[15:21] {GeoArb} in fins
[15:26] {dino} bruce, we should have been watching fmcn
[15:29] * dptl slaps ThurstonHowellTheThird around a bit with a large trout
[15:29] {Threei} violence starts
[15:30] {dptl} ye
[15:30] {dptl} lets have some fun
[15:30] {Threei} uh oh
[15:32] {dptl} everyone in coma,i see
[15:33] * GeoArb slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[15:33] {dptl} :)
[15:33] {GeoArb} i apologize
[15:33] {dino} rrgb s .24, stop .47
[15:34] {dino} dp to timeout
[15:35] {lumdus} s rimmm 105.12
[15:36] {lumdus} .35 stop
[15:37] {lumdus} die rimm die now !
[15:38] {lumdus} stop b/e 105.11
[15:38] {bruce} back
[15:40] {bruce} nice range fmcn dino - I have trouble with it - you've been doinggreat readingit
[15:41] {dino} forgot about it today
[15:41] {lumdus} bsc almost 6.00 can't believe that everybody forgot the buyout is ONLY 2.00
[15:41] {bruce} mon has even bigger range - took my eye off it and see it had a couple niceentires
[15:42] {bruce} v downdraft
[15:42] {bruce} retrace try here for the brave
[15:43] {dino} bsc goes up w/ms, swap of shares involved
[15:46] {Threei} lum, it's not that simple in BSC case
[15:46] {dino} also, if you are a short, you may want to cover and lock in
[15:47] {bruce} ewz looks long to me here
[15:47] {bruce} lagte in day though - not doingany more trades
[15:47] {lumdus} vad, can you help me with rimm.. i need it heavily down not just a few pennies
[15:48] {bruce} vad dusts off extra large and heavy army boots
[15:49] {Threei} oops
[15:49] {Threei} sorry, I kicked it from the wrong side
[15:50] {lumdus} it's trying so hard to fail,, but someone is not letting. we got 10 mins more.
[15:51] {patience} too funny, my stink bids for august gold options are being filled
[15:51] {Threei} nice finish for a difficult week - short one, with Fed announcement AND quad witching
[15:52] {Threei} how many troubles can you squeeze in 4 days
[15:52] {dino} cov rrgb .14, +.10, thats it
[15:52] {Threei} panicking sellers are hitting them patience?
[15:53] {patience} i guess
[15:53] {patience} i still expect gold to go down bit more
[15:54] {dino} i'm expecting more chaos all over
[15:54] {lumdus} oil also and then all banks recover and we forget what happened . And then Clinton become president and we forget everyting.
[15:54] {patience} i'll drink to that
[15:54] {patience} i'll drink to lots though
[15:55] {Threei} LOL
[15:55] {lumdus} dino, i think it's mainly over now . the crisis is history. bsc out of the picture and everybody else ok now.
[15:55] {dino} lol patience, some day we'll drink together
[15:55] {patience} sounds excellent, i'll buy the first draft
[15:55] {Threei} i HOPE i AM INVITED
[15:55] {patience} lum, i expect few months more of financial churning, it aint over
[15:55] {Threei} oops
[15:55] {Threei} sorry caps
[15:55] {dino} when you arrange that cruise vad, lol
[15:56] {Threei} blackmail
[15:56] {Threei} will seminar in bahamas do?
[15:56] {GeoArb} siminar?
[15:56] {patience} yes yes yes
[15:56] {dino} cvco death
[15:56] {Threei} you can write off vacation as a busines expense :)
[15:56] {dino} yes
[15:56] {GeoArb} (upping lot size to 10000 to pay for it)
[15:57] {dino} lol
[15:57] {dptl} have a good long weekend everyone......see ya monday:)
[15:57] {Threei} Ok guys,
[15:57] {Threei} have a great relaxing long weekend,
[15:57] {dino} same dp, take care
[15:57] {GeoArb} thanks all.... see you monday
[15:57] {Threei} thank you all,
[15:57] {dino} thx for ideas all, decent week
[15:57] {Threei} I'll see you all on Monday
[15:58] {bruce} bye vad - good weekend to you
[15:59] {dino} avtr death
[16:00] {dino} bruce good spots again, thx
[16:00] {bruce} thx dino
[16:01] {bruce} tryin
[16:01] {dino} you're making me $
[16:01] {bruce} need to get better at pegging entries in those contra palys - getting better I think
[16:02] {bruce} I can find em - jsut have trouble knowing where to get in
[16:03] {dino} size down wait way out,
[16:03] {dino} they all will rinse you if you buy too big
[16:04] {bruce} I'm trading the contras very small dino
[16:04] {dino} good, i can't catch tops or bottoms, but for the most part the moves are 1/2+
[16:04] {dino} r/r
[16:05] {bruce} yes _ like that a lot
[16:05] {patience} bruce, dcc if you have a minute
[16:06] {dino} i'm grabbing a beer
[16:07] {bruce} have one for me
[16:07] {bruce} noton my diet
[16:23] {bruce} terrific weekend to all
[16:30] {dino} later all
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Mar 19 2008
Session Time: Wed Mar 19 00:00:00 2008
[08:13] {Threei} Good morning
[08:13] {Threei} Visa IPO prices start
[08:13] {Threei} not sure what time it opens for trading
[08:13] {Threei} symbol is V
[08:18] {hawkfan4} good morning Vad, all
[08:19] {Threei} hawk :)
[08:27] {maryaliceann} Good morning
[08:27] {Threei} morning mary
[08:28] {Threei} you don't mind the shoret for the nick I hope
[08:28] {Threei} short
[08:28] {maryaliceann} not at all .. was wondering if I could change it .. make it shorter?
[08:29] {Threei} sure, let me know the new one and I will register it and give you instructions how to re-login
[08:31] {maryaliceann} I like Onix
[08:31] {Threei} done, same password as before,
[08:31] {Threei} now type /login,
[08:31] {Threei} hit enter,
[08:32] {Threei} you will get a prompt for a nick and password,
[08:32] {maryaliceann} Thanks Vad
[08:32] {Threei} enter new ones
[08:33] {Threei} there you go
[08:33] {Onix} piece of cake with you on the other side!
[08:34] {Threei} I like keeping things simple... cup for tea, fork for meat, no vegetables allowed
[08:36] {Onix} But "they all" say vegetables are good for you?
[08:36] {Threei} they do... but I elect not to believe them since I hate veggies
[08:36] {Threei} except beef
[08:36] {Threei} which in my firm opinion is vegetable
[08:37] {Onix} because beef feed on vegetation .. right?
[08:38] {Threei} and you are what you eat... you got it
[08:43] {cosmo} we are star dust...
[08:43] {Threei} do we at least get to pick a star?
[08:44] {Threei} I claim Bethelheise )sp?)
[08:44] {cosmo} hmm
[08:45] {cosmo} Si?ius
[08:45] {cosmo} Sirius?
[08:45] {Threei} can be taken over by XMSR any day
[08:45] {Threei} so no
[08:47] {Threei} BSC is trying to squeeze again
[08:48] {Threei} V is priced at 44
[08:48] {Threei} bid 75 at the moment
[08:48] {cosmo} FMCN
[08:49] {cosmo} ...beats est
[08:50] {cosmo} 42 test
[08:55] {cosmo} ADBE beats est....
[08:55] {cosmo} 34 test
[08:56] {Threei} spiked after hours yesterday, hit 35 briefly if I remember correct
[08:56] {cosmo} 35.73 spike last nite
[08:57] {Threei} ADDED TO "BEST IDEAS LIST" AT CANACCORD ADAMS; MAINTAINS BUY RATING, PRICE TARGET $53
[08:57] {Threei} PRICE TARGET LOWERED TO $43 FROM $50 AT RBC CAPITAL; MAINTAINS OUTPERFORM RATING
[08:57] {Threei} make your pick {G}
[08:58] {cosmo} 43 for a scalp
[08:58] {Threei} some scalp...
[08:58] {cosmo} big hair
[08:58] {Threei} lol
[09:00] {Threei} MS CFO: LIQUIDITY ROSE TO $71B FROM $62B, ADJUSTED LEVERAGE RATIO FELL TO 16 FROM 17.6
[09:00] {Threei} all is well in Morgan Stanley world
[09:01] {cosmo} hmm...maybe they're next...
[09:01] {dino} gm all
[09:02] {Threei} TREASURY'S PAULSON: ENCOURAGED BY MORE FANNIE AND FREDDIE MORTGAGE FUNDS
[09:02] {Threei} dino :)
[09:06] {magoo} morning
[09:06] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:09] {dptl} good morning all
[09:10] {Threei} dp :)
[09:11] {magoo} wwhat u stalkin vad?
[09:12] {Threei} bacon with eggs
[09:12] {magoo} ketchup??
[09:12] {Threei} (both are begetables in my mind)
[09:13] {Threei} keeping an eye on ADBE, BSC, half eye on V
[09:13] {GeoArb} gm all
[09:14] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:16] {magoo} just wondering if i get V
[09:16] {Threei} try
[09:16] {magoo} i have bid 0.01 ask 1000, u same vad?
[09:16] {Threei} 75 x 75.50
[09:16] {magoo} what exchange is IPO?
[09:17] {Threei} NYSE I think
[09:17] {magoo} why would i get bsc but not V?
[09:17] {magoo} i need to talk to laser i guess
[09:17] {Threei} you are full of mysteries mags...
[09:18] {tomg} i don't get V either, magoo
[09:19] {magoo} any real thoughts why i get say leh or bsc but not v vad?
[09:19] {Threei} you are not seeing ARCA?
[09:19] {Threei} maybe you have ARCA book turned off
[09:19] {Threei} since those days when it was broken
[09:20] {Threei} try to turn it back on, you should get those bids/offers
[09:20] {magoo} showing arca
[09:20] {tomg} now i'm getting it
[09:21] * Threei is now known as Chip and Dale
[09:22] {magoo} funny, but i hid arb, then un hid it and worked..THANX
[09:22] {tomg} good morning
[09:22] {Threei} tom :)
[09:23] {Threei} sometimes you just need to open the hood and close it again for the engine to start, mags
[09:23] {magoo} vad, look TMA..wild action
[09:23] {Threei} (that's my recipe for fixing cars, FWIW)
[09:24] {Threei} TMA long piece of news
[09:24] {Threei} starts with ANNOUNCES 1YEAR REVERSE REPURCHASE OVERRIDE AGREEMENT AND PROPOSED $1B PUBLIC OFFERING OF CONVERTIBLE NOTES
- Suspends dividend during term of agreement
[09:25] {magoo} just fell from 4 to 2
[09:26] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} gm all
[09:27] {Threei} thtt :)
[09:27] {magoo} mr howell:)
[09:27] {Threei} COIN daily looks like major breakdown losing 10
[09:28] {Threei} BSC makes some wild swings, no technical triggers, momo play if you can get a feel for it
[09:29] {magoo} coin not avail vad sh
[09:29] {Threei} too bad
[09:30] {bruce} ilmn long break prospect - volatile
[09:31] {bruce} geesh - one buck pop
[09:31] {bruce} forget it - spread outrageous
[09:31] {Threei} 7 break long BSC half lot if holding above 6.80
[09:32] {magoo} how about as a bouncer?
[09:32] {Threei} invalidated
[09:33] {Threei} yes but no way to get a rid for now
[09:33] {Threei} ADBE, watch pullback closer to 34 for long
[09:33] {magoo} TMA bounced
[09:34] {bruce} emkr on 7.30break vad?
[09:34] {Threei} nah
[09:35] {bruce} fading - forget int
[09:35] {Threei} ADBE, first strength from here
[09:35] {bruce} \amzn long?
[09:36] {Threei} not sure
[09:36] {Threei} 34.01 long ADBE
[09:36] {magoo} .97 here
[09:37] {Threei} srtop .89
[09:37] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.59
[09:38] {lumdus} morning all
[09:38] {curtisweese} nev mind...dropping bfore i executed
[09:38] {Threei} lum :)
[09:39] {bruce} stopped adbe
[09:39] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.59 now
[09:39] {Threei} yup
[09:40] {bruce} still possible long - we need new setup
[09:40] {magoo} yep
[09:40] {curtisweese} out aapl made . 34
[09:40] {Threei} too jumpy
[09:40] {Threei} no indication for entry
[09:41] {curtisweese} omg i got out way too early .....sigh
[09:41] {curtisweese} s aapl 133.50
[09:41] {magoo} adbe have news vad?
[09:42] {Threei} nothing fresh
[09:42] {cosmo} BWLD fly'n
[09:42] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .25
[09:43] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.50
[09:44] {curtisweese} out aapl made .36
[09:44] {curtisweese} jeez i'm on fire with aapl
[09:44] {Chaeron} good morning everybody
[09:44] {Threei} chaeron :)
[09:44] {magoo} any rumors surrounding V IPO as in should be great or wha?}
[09:44] {Threei} any?
[09:44] {Threei} this is the biggest IPO in US history
[09:45] {Threei} there are all kinds of speculations around it
[09:45] {magoo} go 100 points like BIDU?
[09:45] {magoo} my best trade ever in room here, remember? i made 12k
[09:45] {curtisweese} do you guys leave when you make your daily allotment really early?
[09:45] {curtisweese} wow!! magoo! 12k....drool!!
[09:46] {magoo} first thing is...fish feast
[09:46] * magoo slaps curtisweese around a bit with a large trout
[09:46] {Chaeron} curtis... no we hang around and harrass Threei
[09:46] {lumdus} which stock magoo ?
[09:46] {Threei} AMKR .21 long if holding above .10
[09:46] {magoo} bidu IPO
[09:46] {magoo} we were hittiung it in room, vad remembers it
[09:46] {dino} no curtis, just trade smaller
[09:47] {Threei} .41 another try ADBE
[09:48] {magoo} iu like that read vad
[09:48] {Threei} if losing .20, abandoning breakouts on it, pullbacks only
[09:48] {bruce} stop about .15 adbe vad?
[09:48] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.94
[09:48] {Threei} if sets up from here yes
[09:48] {bruce} k
[09:49] {Threei} sorry, misread you bruce... stop .25
[09:49] {Threei} for scalpers
[09:49] {Threei} for day trade yes, .15
[09:49] {Chaeron} in ADBE
[09:49] {bruce} l adbe .41
[09:50] {curtisweese} out aapl made .26
[09:50] {Threei} sheesh
[09:50] {Threei} I switch to AAPL {G}
[09:50] {bruce} stopped adbe -21c
[09:50] {Chaeron} me too
[09:50] {Chaeron} stopped
[09:50] {magoo} really
[09:51] {curtisweese} i'm at almost 3x goal already....jeez...i love you aapl
[09:51] {magoo} whats your daily goal?
[09:52] {curtisweese} 500
[09:52] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.75
[09:52] {curtisweese} doh! dropped before entry
[09:53] {curtisweese} okay now in
[09:53] {Threei} NFLX
[09:53] {Threei} long .40 break half lot
[09:54] {dino} lamr s .63, stop .91
[09:54] {Threei} stop under .20
[09:55] {Threei} 1:1
[09:56] {curtisweese} lost on aapl .18 :(
[09:56] {Threei} offering NFLX .85
[09:56] {Chaeron} nice Vad
[09:56] {Threei} out in full
[09:56] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} ty +.40
[09:56] {magoo} out .92 full
[09:57] {dino} gj tht3
[09:57] {magoo} WOW nice vad
[09:57] {esemde} late to the party ...goood morning
[09:57] {Threei} ese :)
[09:57] {dino} gm es
[09:57] {Threei} wow, even that was too soon?
[09:57] {Threei} hah
[09:57] {Threei} look at ADBE
[09:57] {esemde} bstop ADBE 34 50
[09:58] {Threei} lesson learned... pullback stock, no breakouts on it
[09:58] {esemde} reading my mind Vad
[09:58] {magoo} mean muther ADBE
[09:58] {Threei} not sure about it ese
[09:58] {magoo} feels like 35 tho
[09:58] {esemde} how so?
[09:58] {Threei} it stopped us twice on breaks
[09:58] {Threei} but moves nicely off pullbacks
[09:58] {esemde} good enough for me bstop removed
[09:58] {Threei} I wouyld try to enter it on shakout
[09:59] {magoo} hard pullbks too vad..like .30 cents
[09:59] {Threei} yes, too wide to keep small stop and reenter
[09:59] {magoo} btw..NFLX easy button worthy
[09:59] {lumdus} lly break of .71 long
[10:00] {Threei} NFLX took us back to even after ADBE shakes
[10:00] {Threei} still need to make some money
[10:00] {dptl} nflx+.43 ty
[10:00] {Threei} dp :)
[10:00] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.48
[10:01] {magoo} i'm with ya boss:)
[10:01] {curtisweese} run aapl run
[10:02] {curtisweese} good long entry here too in myu opinion at 133...oh...i entered at 132.48 sorry
[10:03] {curtisweese} out aapl made .24
[10:03] {esemde} bstop HOLX 58.01
[10:04] {lumdus} l lly 50.71 stop 50.58
[10:04] {lumdus} stop 50.63 on lly
[10:05] {curtisweese} l aapl
[10:05] {curtisweese} jeez bush gets up and market tanks....grrrrr
[10:06] {lumdus} funny hah ?
[10:06] {cosmo} tanks are obsolete
[10:06] {dino} lamr stopped -.33
[10:06] {curtisweese} i'm l aapl from 133.08
[10:08] {lumdus} stop on lly 50.64
[10:08] {lumdus} i think lly about to pay off nicely
[10:09] {dino} sirt
[10:09] {magoo} vad..look NFLX here..thats why wee scalp
[10:09] {curtisweese} out on aapl...can't figure out what it's doing
[10:10] {curtisweese} -.04
[10:10] {bruce} bsc looks to ba at support vad
[10:11] {bruce} thoughts on retrace long here?
[10:11] {esemde} ADBE ....off and runnin
[10:11] {curtisweese} s aapl now
[10:12] {Threei} this time it worked on break... {shrug}
[10:12] {Threei} with stop under 6 bruce?
[10:12] {bruce} that was my thought
[10:12] {esemde} better safe than sorry
[10:13] {curtisweese} out .03 only lol
[10:13] {bruce} bsc invalid now
[10:14] {esemde} HOLX invalid for me...
[10:15] {Threei} V open
[10:16] {bruce} adsk looks long on break of .66
[10:16] {Chaeron} priced @ 44
[10:16] {magoo} not on sh list V vad lol
[10:17] {Threei} US FUEL DEALERS SEND LETTER TO PRESIDENT BUSH URGING IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF EMERGENCY HEATING OIL SUPPLIES-
[10:17] {Threei} of course not, fresh IPO
[10:18] {bruce} adsk invalid
[10:19] {bruce} eric long vad?
[10:19] {Threei} .47 trigger with .34 stop
[10:20] {Threei} a bit slow and narrow
[10:20] {dino} cpla
[10:20] {dino} thin
[10:20] {curtisweese} l aapl
[10:20] {lumdus} .47 trigger for ?
[10:20] {bruce} yes - but lots of range to retrace if it breaks with conviction
[10:21] {Threei} ERIC lum, bruce's question
[10:22] {lumdus} klac maybe also
[10:22] {esemde} long ARTC 33.56 1/2 lot
[10:23] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.78
[10:24] {dino} fwlt l .02 sm wide
[10:24] {esemde} Vad can intelliscan do moving average crossovers?
[10:24] {curtisweese} out lost .06
[10:25] {curtisweese} where is market going? :(
[10:25] {Threei} yes ese
[10:25] {esemde} kinda down ish kinda up ish......
[10:25] {curtisweese} short aapl 132.73
[10:25] {Threei} right click on the alert widnow
[10:25] {esemde} how do i get to that....I've been looking
[10:25] {Threei} Configure
[10:26] {Threei} Select Alerts
[10:26] {esemde} ok
[10:26] {Threei} scroll down to Crossed above ... moving average, there are a few of them
[10:27] {curtisweese} out aapl made .27
[10:27] {esemde} ah....let me rephrase the question......
[10:27] {esemde} i'm looking for a 13ma crossing over a 34 ma......can i configure that
[10:27] {dino} fwlt stop to .97, mrk not helping
[10:28] {esemde} Out ARTC .94
[10:28] {Threei} oh, I see what you mean
[10:28] {esemde} +..48
[10:28] {curtisweese} ese, nice!
[10:28] {dino} gj
[10:28] {Threei} not sure ese
[10:28] {esemde} sorry make that +.38
[10:28] {curtisweese} aapl performing weird....like somebody is buying at 132.50 it keeps jumping up and down strange
[10:29] {esemde} tks curtis....
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API:
[10:30] {Threei} - Crude: +2.5M
[10:30] {Threei} - Gasoline: -786K
[10:30] {Threei} - Distillate:-1.6M
[10:30] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.4
[10:30] {Threei} yikes
[10:31] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .14
[10:31] {curtisweese} darn too early again
[10:32] {curtisweese} s aapl again 131.95 i got
[10:32] {dino} fwlt stopped flat
[10:33] {magoo} wow BSC under 5
[10:33] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .15
[10:33] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} fwlt +.26 ty dino
[10:33] {Threei} RIMM held very well while NQ dropped
[10:34] {bruce} alxn starting to look like short candidate dino
[10:35] {dino} y
[10:35] {lumdus} rimm heard vad and went south
[10:35] {dino} missed
[10:35] {lumdus} l pep 71.24 stop 71.16
[10:36] {Threei} yup, it tried to stand its own but market pressure become too much
[10:36] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.02
[10:37] {curtisweese} i mean 131.02
[10:37] {lumdus} there goes pep
[10:38] {curtisweese} out made .32
[10:39] {magoo} vad..i've never come across any trader such as curtis here
[10:39] {dino} lol
[10:39] {dino} reminds me of blaster
[10:40] {esemde} My afternoon breakout play will be Holx....loning for a breakout over 58.00
[10:40] {esemde} thats "looking"
[10:40] {dino} i'm loning
[10:40] {esemde} i used too as well......
[10:41] {Threei} lol
[10:41] {esemde} use it in english phrases " he lons" she lons" they lon"
[10:41] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.49
[10:42] {lumdus} if market turns up pep will fly imvho
[10:42] {curtisweese} out lost .20
[10:44] {dino} bwld s .70
[10:44] {dino} smbl
[10:45] {esemde} what the heck does a company called buffalo wild wings do anyway?
[10:46] {esemde} been watching that one dino....
[10:46] {dino} alxn was a beauty bruce
[10:46] {cosmo} ese....its a music group, maybe
[10:47] {cosmo} checking
[10:47] {dino} wings, ribs etc
[10:47] {dino} tgif type
[10:47] {esemde} hmmm.....
[10:48] {cosmo} nasty stuff
[10:48] {dino} not to me
[10:48] {dino} had wings last two days for lunch, scorned woman sauce, mmmmm
[10:49] {bruce} great dino
[10:49] {magoo} vad, u trading without us??
[10:50] {Threei} nope
[10:50] {Threei} looking around
[10:50] {dino} wait until vad's cruise, we'll all be eating wings and drinking beer
[10:50] {magoo} u better not be.lol
[10:50] {magoo} i gonna check your analysis sheet
[10:52] {GeoArb} quick Q... how do you guys exit a position on laser?
[10:52] {GeoArb} linit or market?
[10:52] {GeoArb} also click or hotkeys?
[10:52] {Threei} limit below the inside price
[10:53] {GeoArb} ahhh
[10:53] {GeoArb} i was clicking inside
[10:53] {GeoArb} a couple below?
[10:53] {Threei} on fast stocks vcan be a bit late
[10:53] {Threei} yeah
[10:53] {Threei} some use hotkeys
[10:53] {Threei} some use mouse
[10:53] {GeoArb} i was looking if i can create a hot key.... something like sell bid smart route
[10:53] {magoo} i like to lay out ahead and let it come to my offee
[10:53] {lumdus} market still open ? LOL
[10:53] {dptl} got to leave early have a good one all
[10:53] {GeoArb} using OMS?
[10:54] {Threei} take care dp
[10:54] {Threei} OMS is for stops
[10:54] {GeoArb} bye dp
[10:54] {GeoArb} yes
[10:54] {GeoArb} thanks... ill look into hotkeys
[10:55] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.23
[11:00] {Threei} sorry, lost connection
[11:00] {GeoArb} man i was desparate
[11:00] {GeoArb} looks like i am addicted to this room :)
[11:01] {dino} y
[11:01] {Chaeron} so you go thru withdrawls atfter the close? :)
[11:01] {GeoArb} nope after first half
[11:01] {GeoArb} as i go to work :(
[11:01] {magoo} we were off\
[11:01] {lumdus} i got disconnected also
[11:02] {curtisweese} l aapl 131.63
[11:02] {curtisweese} here comes the run :)
[11:02] {bruce} sheesh
[11:03] {curtisweese} market is going up...come on market
[11:03] {bruce} vadster gave me tjhe boot
[11:03] {bruce} and I never even trouted him today
[11:03] {bruce} yet
[11:03] {dino} fwlt l .60
[11:04] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {esemde} ese....gets slimmed in backwash......
[11:04] {dino} sm cpla l .91
[11:05] {bruce} fwlt stop .35 or so dino?
[11:05] * GeoArb slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {judi} Judi and Jim signing in
[11:05] {GeoArb} just checking the tools :D
[11:06] {Threei} MF 10 break for a scalp
[11:06] {Threei} with .89 stop
[11:06] {Chaeron} in
[11:07] {magoo} in
[11:08] {Threei} no worky
[11:08] {bruce} stopped mf -15c
[11:08] {Chaeron} me out - stopped
[11:08] {magoo} out
[11:08] {lumdus} l amzn 72.52 stop 72.38
[11:10] {curtisweese} out aapl made .36
[11:10] {bruce} sheesh -I'm kiss of death vad- if I take trade they usually don't work
[11:10] {curtisweese} l aapl again 132.28
[11:13] {curtisweese} here we go
[11:13] {magoo} its when the 3 of us do {chaer, bruce, magoo}
[11:13] {lumdus} out amzn 72.78
[11:13] {Chaeron} lol
[11:14] {curtisweese} market going up aapl down? any news?
[11:15] {Threei} nothing AAPL specific
[11:15] {curtisweese} i lowering my stop....that's too weird....it is someone messing with the market! lol
[11:19] {curtisweese} out aapl lost .07
[11:21] {bruce} ebay long candiate on 28.10 break
[11:22] {lumdus} curtis, don't blame me i aint messin with the amrket
[11:22] {dino} de l .98 sm
[11:22] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.03
[11:23] {curtisweese} oh man...come on market!
[11:24] {lumdus} lot of scared folks today. we need a nice turnaround now.
[11:25] {dino} it's all lum's fault
[11:26] {curtisweese} vad ...what does aapl chart look like to you...breakdown or up?
[11:26] {curtisweese} nev mind...market pulling it up
[11:27] {Threei} AAPL is disconnected somewhat
[11:28] {curtisweese} yeah! it is weird
[11:31] {bruce} fwlt holding 54 so far dino
[11:31] {lumdus} maybe aapl good short ?
[11:31] {magoo} RIMM vad 106 magnate?
[11:32] {Threei} RIMM will do what market will... unlike AAPL which lives in its own world today
[11:32] {Threei} and yes, AAPl starts looking like short
[11:33] {Threei} .20 nearest resistance, let's see how it acts here
[11:33] {Threei} if breaks it no read
[11:34] {dino} y bruce
[11:34] {curtisweese} i'll bite... s aapl 132
[11:35] {Threei} stop above .20
[11:37] {lumdus} vad, you think jpm due for some pullback ?
[11:38] {curtisweese} die aapl die!
[11:38] {Threei} there are no signs either way on the chart lum
[11:38] {Threei} it's horribly overextended on daily
[11:38] {Threei} but it doesn't mean it's ready to drop
[11:39] {lumdus} let me give it a shot short jpm 44.81 stop 44.87
[11:39] {Threei} market can stay insane longer than reasonable man could suggest
[11:39] {lumdus} risk vs reward is worth it i think on the downside
[11:39] {Threei} withg such tight stop, why not
[11:40] {lumdus} i think maybe .50 i can cover if it works :)
[11:42] {curtisweese} out lost .18
[11:42] {lumdus} hmm, no worky jpm yet
[11:42] {bruce} stopped aapl -.20c
[11:42] {Threei} nothing is really
[11:42] {lumdus} very surprised it look too good.
[11:42] {Threei} a lot of meaningless moves
[11:42] {Threei} moast of them are noise
[11:45] {Threei} V starts looking like going to 61
[11:45] {dino} out cpla .31 +.40
[11:46] {bruce} ewz may reverse near here dino
[11:46] {Chaeron} my chart screwed up on V with LASER...
[11:46] {Threei} this is because of wierd print at 199
[11:46] {Chaeron} that must have been my buy
[11:46] {curtisweese} dino...nice
[11:48] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.02
[11:48] {dino} ewz around 77.60s
[11:48] {dino} imo
[11:48] {bruce} k - still determined to go down now for sure
[11:49] {bruce} we have higher low in fwlt now
[11:49] {curtisweese} put aapl short made .32
[11:49] {dino} i'm in it sm .60, wide
[11:49] {dino} fmcn
[11:51] {Threei} nice going AAPL
[11:51] {curtisweese} thanks!
[11:56] {bruce} k- still wtching - want to see .27 hold
[11:58] {Threei} judi, dcc please
[11:58] {dino} bwld won't move, bstop to b/e
[11:59] {curtisweese} s aapl 131.75
[12:00] {Threei} remember our old swing trade VLNC?
[12:00] {Threei} made new 52 high today
[12:00] {Threei} worth keeping an eye on
[12:01] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .20
[12:03] {curtisweese} s aapl again 131.61
[12:03] {bruce} artc starting to look like short candidate dino
[12:05] {curtisweese} out lost .03
[12:05] {Threei} LEH CFO: HAVE PICKED UP SOME BSC CLIENTS, 'RETICENT' ABOUT 'PICKING OVER THE BONES' AT BSC - INTERVIEW COMMENTS
- Says used Fed lending facilitiy last night
[12:05] {Threei} - Says firm did lose some 'jittery' clients, but expects some of those clients to come back
[12:06] {dino} i can't borrow it artc
[12:06] {curtisweese} 1 more try aapl short 131.65
[12:07] {curtisweese} out lost .08 :(
[12:07] {bruce} k
[12:10] {dino} bwld stopped +.04
[12:13] {dino} ewz l sm .75
[12:16] {curtisweese} l aapl 131.82
[12:17] {curtisweese} out aapl made .1
[12:20] {curtisweese} l aapl 131.89
[12:20] {curtisweese} out lost .1 :(
[12:22] {GeoArb} test
[12:24] {Chaeron} I hope not... I didn't study
[12:26] {curtisweese} s aapl 131.83
[12:27] {bruce} out ewz -.20c
[12:28] {curtisweese} out aapl chicken that i am made .05
[12:29] {esemde} bstop BWLD 23.76....
[12:32] {dino} fmcn run
[12:32] {curtisweese} i gotta go so L aapl 131.86 and then i'm done for sure! break 132 aapl....come on!!!!!
[12:32] {Threei} hawk, looks dcc please
[12:33] {curtisweese} out aapl made .14 okay...bye everyone happy trading
[12:33] {Threei} VLNC, 4.20 break long, NOT a day trade most likely
[12:33] {Threei} take care curtis
[12:34] {bruce} I like bhp longhere dino
[12:34] {esemde} see ya curtis
[12:36] {dino} dwsn s l .20 wide, spready
[12:36] {dino} fmcn off of .00 l, sm wide
[12:39] {dino} ewz stopped-.40
[12:41] {Threei} FNM .11 long if stays above 31
[12:42] {Threei} invalidated
[12:42] {GeoArb} not a good day today
[12:42] {GeoArb} and i took th day off hehehehehe
[12:42] {magoo} aapl bounce soon vad?
[12:43] {Threei} no read on it magoo
[12:44] {Threei} so it's all your fault geo
[12:44] {GeoArb} yup :(
[12:51] {Threei} just as we adjusted to bear market and traded nicely for a month or so, it turned into bull and threw us off :)
[12:53] {magoo} any read V vad??
[12:53] {Threei} too hectic on its first day
[12:54] {Threei} it feels like a good trading candidate when first fever dies down
[12:54] {Threei} let's give it a few days
[12:56] {magoo} any read RIMM vad}??
[12:58] {Threei} .50 break is asking to be bought
[12:58] {dino} out fmcn .05, +1.05
[12:58] {Threei} but everything is tolugh read today
[13:00] {bruce} out bhp - only +08 but at least a win
[13:00] {bruce} wow - congrats dino
[13:01] {magoo} are markets open easter monday anyone?
[13:01] {dino} ty lucky
[13:01] {dino} y
[13:01] {bruce} coulda used a treade like that
[13:03] {dino} lets find one then
[13:03] {dino} big pull back fmcn
[13:03] {bruce} looking
[13:04] {bruce} yes - watching it - still has room to go long
[13:05] {bruce} de starting to look long to me here dino
[13:05] {Threei} IRAQ SET TO SIGN DEALS WORTH UP TO $2.5B NEXT MONTH WITH 5 MAJORS TO BOOST OIL OUTPUT BY 500K BPD - GOVERNMENT ADVISOR
[13:06] {bruce} thats what iraq needs - an econmy and some people working again
[13:11] {Threei} LEH short 44 break
[13:11] {Threei} half lot
[13:12] {Threei} stop above .20
[13:14] {Chaeron} in
[13:15] {Chaeron} s LEH .98
[13:15] {Threei} 1:1
[13:16] {Threei} MER drops like a rock
[13:16] {Threei} no reason for LEH not to follow
[13:18] {dino} rumors mer 10billion hit coming
[13:19] {Chaeron} oi
[13:19] {Threei} isn't it nice
[13:19] {Threei} they throw billions around like kids throw toys in a sandbox
[13:20] {dino} funny, they are supposedly the "pros" at this stuff
[13:20] {GeoArb} dino ... whats the source of rumor?
[13:21] {Threei} every time I see all those nicely framed certificates on the wall in some financial advisor office, i think:
[13:21] {Threei} have you made anything in the market trading your own money, ever?
[13:21] {Chaeron} another piece of toilet paper?
[13:22] {Chaeron} dang market trying up
[13:22] {dino} doug kass realmoney.com
[13:22] {GeoArb} thnks
[13:22] {Threei} I guess now it's a rumor of previous rumor being not true?
[13:23] {GeoArb} out
[13:28] {Threei} too bad haven't reshorted LEH
[13:28] {GeoArb} you out too vad?
[13:28] {Threei} on a first drop into .70
[13:28] {GeoArb} ah
[13:29] {GeoArb} i let it go against me
[13:29] {Chaeron} I am by accident @ 44.03... don't know how...
[13:29] {GeoArb} didnt book
[13:29] {Threei} then couldn't get a new read on it as it went above two resistance levels
[13:29] {Chaeron} -.05
[13:29] {GeoArb} sheesh.... i shouldnt stay at home
[13:32] {Threei} wow
[13:32] {Threei} it went to .62 - 65 area twice, you haven't taken any?
[13:32] {bruce} I got out flat - was waiting at .50 for leh - greedy I guess
[13:33] {GeoArb} no was too slow
[13:33] {GeoArb} heh.... yup and then got stopped :)
[13:33] {bruce} vad made right choice grabbing 30c
[13:33] {dino} out dwsn .80, +.60
[13:34] {GeoArb} y
[13:34] {dino} opps, partial out
[13:34] {GeoArb} S LEH 43.59
[13:34] {bruce} great dino - you're on fire - didn't see that entry
[13:37] {dino} scroll up 12:37
[13:37] {bruce} yup - there it is - did I say I can read?
[13:38] {dino} oil -5 bucks
[13:38] {dino} gold -56
[13:42] {bruce} they'll pay us 56 bucks to take gold offhands? - im in for that
[13:44] {dino} sm risky l fmcn .35 wide
[13:46] {dino} out fmcn .85, +.50
[13:47] {bruce} nice -
[13:47] {dino} ty
[13:48] {bruce} I had no read long or short in it - fmcn has my number
[13:49] {dino} waiting at .30
[13:49] {bruce} stld looks like long candidate to me dino -
[13:53] {dino} y
[13:53] {bruce} tanking for moment
[13:56] {bruce} double bottom fwlt -
[13:58] {esemde} still have bstop on BWLD
[13:58] {esemde} 23.76
[13:58] {dino} lol
[13:58] {dino} thing won't move
[14:01] {esemde} ya ..it's lookin like it
[14:01] {dino} sm l stld .00
[14:02] {esemde} it's got indigestion dino......Hot Wings
[14:02] {dino} somethings holding it up
[14:06] {Threei} esemde, look dcc please
[14:10] {esemde} hi Vad ...just saw the dcc
[14:10] {lumdus} maybe little bounce here ?
[14:12] {bruce} l stld sm .77
[14:14] {bruce} stop .65
[14:15] {dino} ccow
[14:21] {dino} fcsx sm l .90
[14:26] {dino} fcsx stopped -.40
[14:27] {bruce} exit stld +.05 - dont care for this weakness
[14:31] {dino} my stop is .64
[14:32] {bruce} sounds good - we have a couple lower highs now so not very confident as long here -
[14:32] {bruce} still think low is near th0ough
[14:34] {esemde} Ok dino....am removing my bstop on BWLD......
[14:35] {dino} surprised you're still talking to me w/that one
[14:35] {esemde} pourquo?
[14:37] {esemde} it's still a good bet
[14:37] {dino} stld stoppedddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[14:37] {dino} y
[14:37] {bruce} adsk scaalp prospect on break of .91
[14:37] {bruce} sorry dino
[14:38] {dino} no worries
[14:38] {bruce} nyet on adsk
[14:40] {bruce} taking break
[14:41] {bruce} I hink fmcn is long prsopect near here dino
[14:41] {dino} financials blowing up
[14:42] {bruce} k- vad probably withdrew his cash
[14:42] {bruce} entire american economic system in ruins
[14:43] {dino} nah
[14:46] {lumdus} yeah, we just got to short the whole american economy and we be gok.
[14:46] {Threei} not yet bruce... but fed is working on it
[14:48] {dino} re-inflate it all, thats what they will do. its the fastest way out
[14:48] {dino} sm l fmcn .51
[14:50] {Threei} both LEH and MER look tempting to short off resistance
[14:51] {Threei} market looks like about to tank as if world ends
[14:51] {dino} what resistance lol
[14:51] {Threei} MER is right at one
[14:51] {judi} ty dino fmcn good l +.15
[14:52] {Threei} LEH can't quite climb there
[14:53] {Threei} 40 cents drop MER from the resistance
[14:54] {dino} :)
[14:55] {lumdus} if themarket drops again, i like amzn for reversal. very strong all day long
[14:58] {dino} dwsn sm l .52
[14:59] {lumdus} out amzn +.33
[14:59] {Threei} volume dried up on this bounce
[14:59] {Threei} if market wants time, it's time
[15:01] {lumdus} so leh we go short now ?
[15:02] {Threei} I have hard time finding entry points, too many shakeouts
[15:02] {Threei} JPM looks like deat spiral starts too
[15:05] {judi} for us a great + day, 5 for 5 trades, be back tomorrow thanks everyone
[15:09] {Threei} good job judi
[15:10] {dino} gj
[15:12] {Threei} OK, gotta try it
[15:12] {magoo} jpm short u m mean?
[15:12] {Threei} JPM stop over .20, looking for entry
[15:12] {magoo} how about MER?
[15:13] {Threei} one at a time for me
[15:13] {Threei} got .99
[15:14] {lumdus} of all the banks BSC looks like it wants up. way tooo funny
[15:14] {Threei} lol
[15:15] {Threei} well, that one already went through the circumcision of such a scale...
[15:15] {bruce} back
[15:15] {bruce} everybody make huge profits while I was gone?
[15:16] {Threei} judi did
[15:16] {bruce} k
[15:16] {lumdus} no bruce we all waited for you.
[15:16] {bruce} congrats judi
[15:16] {bruce} well thanx lum
[15:16] {bruce} now theres a gentleman
[15:17] {bruce} Ilike apol long here dino
[15:18] {lumdus} jpm not behaving like vad wants.
[15:18] {esemde} signing off ladies and gentlemen....see ya tomorrow
[15:18] {lumdus} maybe we need to wack it a little big
[15:18] {Threei} bye ese, see you tomorrow
[15:19] {magoo} vad..are JPM & MER independent of mkt todaty?
[15:19] {Threei} not totally
[15:19] {Threei} no absolute correlation but still
[15:21] {lumdus} in amzn 72.00 stop 71.94
[15:22] {dino} apol dk
[15:22] {lumdus} if we have rebound now, amzn go nice - othewise i lose .05
[15:22] {Threei} moving JPM stop to .05
[15:22] {Threei} no point in risking too much on it
[15:24] {Threei} should I stop being a hypocrite and just grab 10 cents on JPM?
[15:25] {GeoArb} heh i did
[15:25] {Threei} hehe
[15:25] {GeoArb} looks choppy
[15:25] {Threei} I just find it hard to believe this thing is still holding
[15:26] {Threei} whatever... with 6 cents stop I'll give it a chance
[15:26] {Threei} although not many stocks missed a chance to shake me out today, lol
[15:27] {GeoArb} yeah crappy day
[15:27] {GeoArb} -ve oday
[15:27] {GeoArb} should sneak trades from work
[15:27] {GeoArb} much better
[15:27] {Threei} die you lousy financial monstrousity
[15:28] {Threei} 1:1
[15:28] {Threei} covered half
[15:29] * Threei is sending to magoo request for death dance for JPM
[15:30] {GeoArb} all scalps turing in daytrades :D
[15:30] {magoo} die DDDDDDDDDUIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[15:30] {Threei} movement wise this one is completed as a scalp
[15:30] {dino} daa daa daa....uh huh, uh huh
[15:30] {Threei} I just want more from it
[15:31] {GeoArb} comeone guys dont kill it
[15:31] {GeoArb} it holds my home mortgage !!!
[15:31] {Threei} why not
[15:31] {Threei} so?
[15:31] {Threei} it's not like they owe you
[15:31] {Threei} you owe them
[15:31] {GeoArb} well as long as loan is forgiven hehehehe
[15:31] {Threei} they go under, you are mortgage-free :)
[15:31] {GeoArb} KILL IT NOW !!!!
[15:31] {Threei} there
[15:31] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} lol
[15:32] {Chaeron} lol... routing for ya Geo
[15:32] {GeoArb} i was bored so orded vad;s book
[15:32] {GeoArb} AFTER buying the course
[15:33] {Threei} which book?
[15:33] {dino} you'll be really bored when it arrives, lol
[15:33] {GeoArb} tape
[15:33] {Threei} TTR?
[15:33] {GeoArb} y
[15:33] {Threei} you won't regret it
[15:33] {GeoArb} i really need to figure out whats JBE and DBI (cant figure out when he says it)
[15:33] {GeoArb} :D
[15:33] {Threei} lol
[15:33] {Threei} magoo
[15:34] {Threei} can you put your elbow in dino's ribcage please?
[15:34] {dino} :)
[15:34] {Threei} :)
[15:34] {magoo} just thru easy button at him
[15:34] {dino} i'm driving him crazy today
[15:35] {Threei} your market today?
[15:35] {dino} lod
[15:35] {dino} below goal, but not bad
[15:35] {Threei} good job
[15:35] {Threei} not my market
[15:35] {Threei} JPM trade will put me at breakeven at best
[15:36] {GeoArb} yeah.... i got scared out
[15:36] {Threei} too many shakes
[15:36] {GeoArb} so -ve
[15:36] {Threei} all stops are within a reason, just a tad too many of them
[15:36] {dino} i think i need to buy this dip
[15:36] {Threei} thanks for NFLX trade and something else that I forgot that kept me not too deep under water
[15:37] {Threei} so JPM should take me at the surafce
[15:37] {Threei} hear that, morgan?
[15:37] {Threei} die
[15:37] {Threei} 1:2, 1/4 more out
[15:37] {Threei} +.40
[15:38] {dino} wow oih -10
[15:38] {Threei} that's some day... equities, oil aand gold down
[15:39] {Threei} btw guys, futures symbol rollover, don't forget
[15:41] {GeoArb} you know maybe i am wrong but my personal opinion is that LII doesnt help me much
[15:42] {dino} everyone is different
[15:42] {GeoArb} maybe am a newbies at ths but get a headache
[15:42] {Threei} what are you trying to use it for?
[15:42] {dino} no, thats just the market in general
[15:43] {GeoArb} mostly for thickness fo stock and volatility
[15:43] {GeoArb} not direction
[15:43] {Threei} right
[15:43] {Threei} so how does it not help?
[15:43] {GeoArb} but even those if my scanner is right i see only the good ones
[15:43] {GeoArb} right?
[15:43] {Threei} look at level 2 BIDU
[15:44] {Threei} and JPM
[15:44] {GeoArb} ok
[15:44] {Threei} which one is safer, by just a single glance on level 2
[15:44] {GeoArb} jpm
[15:44] {Threei} there
[15:44] {GeoArb} wide spread in bidu
[15:44] {Threei} what else do you want from level2? :)
[15:44] {GeoArb} but if my scanner had a max spread filter
[15:44] {Threei} it allowed you to evaluate risk in one second
[15:44] {GeoArb} bidu would never show up
[15:45] {Threei} ummm
[15:45] {Threei} not necesasary
[15:45] {Threei} spread is one factor
[15:45] {Threei} sizes, gap between levels, pace
[15:45] {Threei} all that is not something scanner will help with
[15:45] {GeoArb} can scan for size but not for level and pace agreed
[15:46] {Threei} trailing JPM last portion to .85
[15:48] {Threei} out
[15:49] {Threei} last trade of the day took the day from negative to useless
[15:49] {GeoArb} i promise not to stay home
[15:49] {Threei} thank you
[15:51] {GeoArb} learned a lot.... good days and bad
[15:51] {GeoArb} thanks vad and eveyone
[15:51] {GeoArb} bye
[15:51] {Threei} geo, you are perfectionist, aren't you
[15:51] {dino} fmcn stopped
[15:51] {GeoArb} just an engineer
[15:51] {Threei} biggest winning day is 7 times bigger than biggest losing
[15:52] {Threei} and 4 winning out of 6
[15:52] {GeoArb} thats was lucky bsc short
[15:52] {GeoArb} an abberration
[15:52] {Threei} sigh
[15:52] {Threei} those engineers
[15:53] {GeoArb} "those" forgot previous life eh?
[15:53] {Threei} lol
[15:53] {Threei} life is full of aberrations
[15:54] {Threei} Ok guys, thank you all
[15:54] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:55] {bruce} vad - glad you had OK day
[15:55] {Threei} OK is too loud
[15:55] {Threei} barely scratched my way to flat
[15:55] {bruce} k -
[15:56] {bruce} not I
[15:56] {bruce} keep getting almosty all your losing trades and missing wins
[15:56] {bruce} not sure what to do except stop taking all yur calls
[15:56] {Threei} or take all of them?
[15:57] {bruce} not always possible
[15:57] {Threei} it's your selection that undermined your performance today
[15:57] {dino} adding sm de overnight, holding dwsn, adding sm fwlt overnight
[15:57] {Threei} well, whatever you do or whoever you follow, you never will get all of them, right?
[15:58] {bruce} agreed and understood
[15:58] {Threei} most of them gave ample time for entery
[15:58] {Threei} JPM was available
[15:58] {Threei} NFLX too
[15:58] {bruce} missed those
[16:00] {dino} -300, 366 pt range
[16:17] {bruce} you expecting long bounce de overnight dno?
[16:19] {dino} y
[16:20] {bruce} its at support
[16:20] {bruce} but no sign of a reversal here
[16:22] {bruce} hope it works out
[16:25] {dino} small position, not too worried
[16:27] {bruce} I've been learning lots from you
[16:27] {bruce} want to thank you
[16:27] {bruce} still not able to read spikes -
[16:28] {bruce} \but I think I can see some progress on reading slower reversals
[16:28] {bruce} night all
[16:34] {dino} you're doing fine bruce, i see it. you're very good at capitulations
[08:13] {Threei} Good morning
[08:13] {Threei} Visa IPO prices start
[08:13] {Threei} not sure what time it opens for trading
[08:13] {Threei} symbol is V
[08:18] {hawkfan4} good morning Vad, all
[08:19] {Threei} hawk :)
[08:27] {maryaliceann} Good morning
[08:27] {Threei} morning mary
[08:28] {Threei} you don't mind the shoret for the nick I hope
[08:28] {Threei} short
[08:28] {maryaliceann} not at all .. was wondering if I could change it .. make it shorter?
[08:29] {Threei} sure, let me know the new one and I will register it and give you instructions how to re-login
[08:31] {maryaliceann} I like Onix
[08:31] {Threei} done, same password as before,
[08:31] {Threei} now type /login,
[08:31] {Threei} hit enter,
[08:32] {Threei} you will get a prompt for a nick and password,
[08:32] {maryaliceann} Thanks Vad
[08:32] {Threei} enter new ones
[08:33] {Threei} there you go
[08:33] {Onix} piece of cake with you on the other side!
[08:34] {Threei} I like keeping things simple... cup for tea, fork for meat, no vegetables allowed
[08:36] {Onix} But "they all" say vegetables are good for you?
[08:36] {Threei} they do... but I elect not to believe them since I hate veggies
[08:36] {Threei} except beef
[08:36] {Threei} which in my firm opinion is vegetable
[08:37] {Onix} because beef feed on vegetation .. right?
[08:38] {Threei} and you are what you eat... you got it
[08:43] {cosmo} we are star dust...
[08:43] {Threei} do we at least get to pick a star?
[08:44] {Threei} I claim Bethelheise )sp?)
[08:44] {cosmo} hmm
[08:45] {cosmo} Si?ius
[08:45] {cosmo} Sirius?
[08:45] {Threei} can be taken over by XMSR any day
[08:45] {Threei} so no
[08:47] {Threei} BSC is trying to squeeze again
[08:48] {Threei} V is priced at 44
[08:48] {Threei} bid 75 at the moment
[08:48] {cosmo} FMCN
[08:49] {cosmo} ...beats est
[08:50] {cosmo} 42 test
[08:55] {cosmo} ADBE beats est....
[08:55] {cosmo} 34 test
[08:56] {Threei} spiked after hours yesterday, hit 35 briefly if I remember correct
[08:56] {cosmo} 35.73 spike last nite
[08:57] {Threei} ADDED TO "BEST IDEAS LIST" AT CANACCORD ADAMS; MAINTAINS BUY RATING, PRICE TARGET $53
[08:57] {Threei} PRICE TARGET LOWERED TO $43 FROM $50 AT RBC CAPITAL; MAINTAINS OUTPERFORM RATING
[08:57] {Threei} make your pick {G}
[08:58] {cosmo} 43 for a scalp
[08:58] {Threei} some scalp...
[08:58] {cosmo} big hair
[08:58] {Threei} lol
[09:00] {Threei} MS CFO: LIQUIDITY ROSE TO $71B FROM $62B, ADJUSTED LEVERAGE RATIO FELL TO 16 FROM 17.6
[09:00] {Threei} all is well in Morgan Stanley world
[09:01] {cosmo} hmm...maybe they're next...
[09:01] {dino} gm all
[09:02] {Threei} TREASURY'S PAULSON: ENCOURAGED BY MORE FANNIE AND FREDDIE MORTGAGE FUNDS
[09:02] {Threei} dino :)
[09:06] {magoo} morning
[09:06] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:09] {dptl} good morning all
[09:10] {Threei} dp :)
[09:11] {magoo} wwhat u stalkin vad?
[09:12] {Threei} bacon with eggs
[09:12] {magoo} ketchup??
[09:12] {Threei} (both are begetables in my mind)
[09:13] {Threei} keeping an eye on ADBE, BSC, half eye on V
[09:13] {GeoArb} gm all
[09:14] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:16] {magoo} just wondering if i get V
[09:16] {Threei} try
[09:16] {magoo} i have bid 0.01 ask 1000, u same vad?
[09:16] {Threei} 75 x 75.50
[09:16] {magoo} what exchange is IPO?
[09:17] {Threei} NYSE I think
[09:17] {magoo} why would i get bsc but not V?
[09:17] {magoo} i need to talk to laser i guess
[09:17] {Threei} you are full of mysteries mags...
[09:18] {tomg} i don't get V either, magoo
[09:19] {magoo} any real thoughts why i get say leh or bsc but not v vad?
[09:19] {Threei} you are not seeing ARCA?
[09:19] {Threei} maybe you have ARCA book turned off
[09:19] {Threei} since those days when it was broken
[09:20] {Threei} try to turn it back on, you should get those bids/offers
[09:20] {magoo} showing arca
[09:20] {tomg} now i'm getting it
[09:21] * Threei is now known as Chip and Dale
[09:22] {magoo} funny, but i hid arb, then un hid it and worked..THANX
[09:22] {tomg} good morning
[09:22] {Threei} tom :)
[09:23] {Threei} sometimes you just need to open the hood and close it again for the engine to start, mags
[09:23] {magoo} vad, look TMA..wild action
[09:23] {Threei} (that's my recipe for fixing cars, FWIW)
[09:24] {Threei} TMA long piece of news
[09:24] {Threei} starts with ANNOUNCES 1YEAR REVERSE REPURCHASE OVERRIDE AGREEMENT AND PROPOSED $1B PUBLIC OFFERING OF CONVERTIBLE NOTES
- Suspends dividend during term of agreement
[09:25] {magoo} just fell from 4 to 2
[09:26] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} gm all
[09:27] {Threei} thtt :)
[09:27] {magoo} mr howell:)
[09:27] {Threei} COIN daily looks like major breakdown losing 10
[09:28] {Threei} BSC makes some wild swings, no technical triggers, momo play if you can get a feel for it
[09:29] {magoo} coin not avail vad sh
[09:29] {Threei} too bad
[09:30] {bruce} ilmn long break prospect - volatile
[09:31] {bruce} geesh - one buck pop
[09:31] {bruce} forget it - spread outrageous
[09:31] {Threei} 7 break long BSC half lot if holding above 6.80
[09:32] {magoo} how about as a bouncer?
[09:32] {Threei} invalidated
[09:33] {Threei} yes but no way to get a rid for now
[09:33] {Threei} ADBE, watch pullback closer to 34 for long
[09:33] {magoo} TMA bounced
[09:34] {bruce} emkr on 7.30break vad?
[09:34] {Threei} nah
[09:35] {bruce} fading - forget int
[09:35] {Threei} ADBE, first strength from here
[09:35] {bruce} \amzn long?
[09:36] {Threei} not sure
[09:36] {Threei} 34.01 long ADBE
[09:36] {magoo} .97 here
[09:37] {Threei} srtop .89
[09:37] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.59
[09:38] {lumdus} morning all
[09:38] {curtisweese} nev mind...dropping bfore i executed
[09:38] {Threei} lum :)
[09:39] {bruce} stopped adbe
[09:39] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.59 now
[09:39] {Threei} yup
[09:40] {bruce} still possible long - we need new setup
[09:40] {magoo} yep
[09:40] {curtisweese} out aapl made . 34
[09:40] {Threei} too jumpy
[09:40] {Threei} no indication for entry
[09:41] {curtisweese} omg i got out way too early .....sigh
[09:41] {curtisweese} s aapl 133.50
[09:41] {magoo} adbe have news vad?
[09:42] {Threei} nothing fresh
[09:42] {cosmo} BWLD fly'n
[09:42] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .25
[09:43] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.50
[09:44] {curtisweese} out aapl made .36
[09:44] {curtisweese} jeez i'm on fire with aapl
[09:44] {Chaeron} good morning everybody
[09:44] {Threei} chaeron :)
[09:44] {magoo} any rumors surrounding V IPO as in should be great or wha?}
[09:44] {Threei} any?
[09:44] {Threei} this is the biggest IPO in US history
[09:45] {Threei} there are all kinds of speculations around it
[09:45] {magoo} go 100 points like BIDU?
[09:45] {magoo} my best trade ever in room here, remember? i made 12k
[09:45] {curtisweese} do you guys leave when you make your daily allotment really early?
[09:45] {curtisweese} wow!! magoo! 12k....drool!!
[09:46] {magoo} first thing is...fish feast
[09:46] * magoo slaps curtisweese around a bit with a large trout
[09:46] {Chaeron} curtis... no we hang around and harrass Threei
[09:46] {lumdus} which stock magoo ?
[09:46] {Threei} AMKR .21 long if holding above .10
[09:46] {magoo} bidu IPO
[09:46] {magoo} we were hittiung it in room, vad remembers it
[09:46] {dino} no curtis, just trade smaller
[09:47] {Threei} .41 another try ADBE
[09:48] {magoo} iu like that read vad
[09:48] {Threei} if losing .20, abandoning breakouts on it, pullbacks only
[09:48] {bruce} stop about .15 adbe vad?
[09:48] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.94
[09:48] {Threei} if sets up from here yes
[09:48] {bruce} k
[09:49] {Threei} sorry, misread you bruce... stop .25
[09:49] {Threei} for scalpers
[09:49] {Threei} for day trade yes, .15
[09:49] {Chaeron} in ADBE
[09:49] {bruce} l adbe .41
[09:50] {curtisweese} out aapl made .26
[09:50] {Threei} sheesh
[09:50] {Threei} I switch to AAPL {G}
[09:50] {bruce} stopped adbe -21c
[09:50] {Chaeron} me too
[09:50] {Chaeron} stopped
[09:50] {magoo} really
[09:51] {curtisweese} i'm at almost 3x goal already....jeez...i love you aapl
[09:51] {magoo} whats your daily goal?
[09:52] {curtisweese} 500
[09:52] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.75
[09:52] {curtisweese} doh! dropped before entry
[09:53] {curtisweese} okay now in
[09:53] {Threei} NFLX
[09:53] {Threei} long .40 break half lot
[09:54] {dino} lamr s .63, stop .91
[09:54] {Threei} stop under .20
[09:55] {Threei} 1:1
[09:56] {curtisweese} lost on aapl .18 :(
[09:56] {Threei} offering NFLX .85
[09:56] {Chaeron} nice Vad
[09:56] {Threei} out in full
[09:56] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} ty +.40
[09:56] {magoo} out .92 full
[09:57] {dino} gj tht3
[09:57] {magoo} WOW nice vad
[09:57] {esemde} late to the party ...goood morning
[09:57] {Threei} ese :)
[09:57] {dino} gm es
[09:57] {Threei} wow, even that was too soon?
[09:57] {Threei} hah
[09:57] {Threei} look at ADBE
[09:57] {esemde} bstop ADBE 34 50
[09:58] {Threei} lesson learned... pullback stock, no breakouts on it
[09:58] {esemde} reading my mind Vad
[09:58] {magoo} mean muther ADBE
[09:58] {Threei} not sure about it ese
[09:58] {magoo} feels like 35 tho
[09:58] {esemde} how so?
[09:58] {Threei} it stopped us twice on breaks
[09:58] {Threei} but moves nicely off pullbacks
[09:58] {esemde} good enough for me bstop removed
[09:58] {Threei} I wouyld try to enter it on shakout
[09:59] {magoo} hard pullbks too vad..like .30 cents
[09:59] {Threei} yes, too wide to keep small stop and reenter
[09:59] {magoo} btw..NFLX easy button worthy
[09:59] {lumdus} lly break of .71 long
[10:00] {Threei} NFLX took us back to even after ADBE shakes
[10:00] {Threei} still need to make some money
[10:00] {dptl} nflx+.43 ty
[10:00] {Threei} dp :)
[10:00] {curtisweese} l aapl 133.48
[10:01] {magoo} i'm with ya boss:)
[10:01] {curtisweese} run aapl run
[10:02] {curtisweese} good long entry here too in myu opinion at 133...oh...i entered at 132.48 sorry
[10:03] {curtisweese} out aapl made .24
[10:03] {esemde} bstop HOLX 58.01
[10:04] {lumdus} l lly 50.71 stop 50.58
[10:04] {lumdus} stop 50.63 on lly
[10:05] {curtisweese} l aapl
[10:05] {curtisweese} jeez bush gets up and market tanks....grrrrr
[10:06] {lumdus} funny hah ?
[10:06] {cosmo} tanks are obsolete
[10:06] {dino} lamr stopped -.33
[10:06] {curtisweese} i'm l aapl from 133.08
[10:08] {lumdus} stop on lly 50.64
[10:08] {lumdus} i think lly about to pay off nicely
[10:09] {dino} sirt
[10:09] {magoo} vad..look NFLX here..thats why wee scalp
[10:09] {curtisweese} out on aapl...can't figure out what it's doing
[10:10] {curtisweese} -.04
[10:10] {bruce} bsc looks to ba at support vad
[10:11] {bruce} thoughts on retrace long here?
[10:11] {esemde} ADBE ....off and runnin
[10:11] {curtisweese} s aapl now
[10:12] {Threei} this time it worked on break... {shrug}
[10:12] {Threei} with stop under 6 bruce?
[10:12] {bruce} that was my thought
[10:12] {esemde} better safe than sorry
[10:13] {curtisweese} out .03 only lol
[10:13] {bruce} bsc invalid now
[10:14] {esemde} HOLX invalid for me...
[10:15] {Threei} V open
[10:16] {bruce} adsk looks long on break of .66
[10:16] {Chaeron} priced @ 44
[10:16] {magoo} not on sh list V vad lol
[10:17] {Threei} US FUEL DEALERS SEND LETTER TO PRESIDENT BUSH URGING IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF EMERGENCY HEATING OIL SUPPLIES-
[10:17] {Threei} of course not, fresh IPO
[10:18] {bruce} adsk invalid
[10:19] {bruce} eric long vad?
[10:19] {Threei} .47 trigger with .34 stop
[10:20] {Threei} a bit slow and narrow
[10:20] {dino} cpla
[10:20] {dino} thin
[10:20] {curtisweese} l aapl
[10:20] {lumdus} .47 trigger for ?
[10:20] {bruce} yes - but lots of range to retrace if it breaks with conviction
[10:21] {Threei} ERIC lum, bruce's question
[10:22] {lumdus} klac maybe also
[10:22] {esemde} long ARTC 33.56 1/2 lot
[10:23] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.78
[10:24] {dino} fwlt l .02 sm wide
[10:24] {esemde} Vad can intelliscan do moving average crossovers?
[10:24] {curtisweese} out lost .06
[10:25] {curtisweese} where is market going? :(
[10:25] {Threei} yes ese
[10:25] {esemde} kinda down ish kinda up ish......
[10:25] {curtisweese} short aapl 132.73
[10:25] {Threei} right click on the alert widnow
[10:25] {esemde} how do i get to that....I've been looking
[10:25] {Threei} Configure
[10:26] {Threei} Select Alerts
[10:26] {esemde} ok
[10:26] {Threei} scroll down to Crossed above ... moving average, there are a few of them
[10:27] {curtisweese} out aapl made .27
[10:27] {esemde} ah....let me rephrase the question......
[10:27] {esemde} i'm looking for a 13ma crossing over a 34 ma......can i configure that
[10:27] {dino} fwlt stop to .97, mrk not helping
[10:28] {esemde} Out ARTC .94
[10:28] {Threei} oh, I see what you mean
[10:28] {esemde} +..48
[10:28] {curtisweese} ese, nice!
[10:28] {dino} gj
[10:28] {Threei} not sure ese
[10:28] {esemde} sorry make that +.38
[10:28] {curtisweese} aapl performing weird....like somebody is buying at 132.50 it keeps jumping up and down strange
[10:29] {esemde} tks curtis....
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[10:30] {Threei} - Distillate:-1.6M
[10:30] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.4
[10:30] {Threei} yikes
[10:31] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .14
[10:31] {curtisweese} darn too early again
[10:32] {curtisweese} s aapl again 131.95 i got
[10:32] {dino} fwlt stopped flat
[10:33] {magoo} wow BSC under 5
[10:33] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .15
[10:33] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} fwlt +.26 ty dino
[10:33] {Threei} RIMM held very well while NQ dropped
[10:34] {bruce} alxn starting to look like short candidate dino
[10:35] {dino} y
[10:35] {lumdus} rimm heard vad and went south
[10:35] {dino} missed
[10:35] {lumdus} l pep 71.24 stop 71.16
[10:36] {Threei} yup, it tried to stand its own but market pressure become too much
[10:36] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.02
[10:37] {curtisweese} i mean 131.02
[10:37] {lumdus} there goes pep
[10:38] {curtisweese} out made .32
[10:39] {magoo} vad..i've never come across any trader such as curtis here
[10:39] {dino} lol
[10:39] {dino} reminds me of blaster
[10:40] {esemde} My afternoon breakout play will be Holx....loning for a breakout over 58.00
[10:40] {esemde} thats "looking"
[10:40] {dino} i'm loning
[10:40] {esemde} i used too as well......
[10:41] {Threei} lol
[10:41] {esemde} use it in english phrases " he lons" she lons" they lon"
[10:41] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.49
[10:42] {lumdus} if market turns up pep will fly imvho
[10:42] {curtisweese} out lost .20
[10:44] {dino} bwld s .70
[10:44] {dino} smbl
[10:45] {esemde} what the heck does a company called buffalo wild wings do anyway?
[10:46] {esemde} been watching that one dino....
[10:46] {dino} alxn was a beauty bruce
[10:46] {cosmo} ese....its a music group, maybe
[10:47] {cosmo} checking
[10:47] {dino} wings, ribs etc
[10:47] {dino} tgif type
[10:47] {esemde} hmmm.....
[10:48] {cosmo} nasty stuff
[10:48] {dino} not to me
[10:48] {dino} had wings last two days for lunch, scorned woman sauce, mmmmm
[10:49] {bruce} great dino
[10:49] {magoo} vad, u trading without us??
[10:50] {Threei} nope
[10:50] {Threei} looking around
[10:50] {dino} wait until vad's cruise, we'll all be eating wings and drinking beer
[10:50] {magoo} u better not be.lol
[10:50] {magoo} i gonna check your analysis sheet
[10:52] {GeoArb} quick Q... how do you guys exit a position on laser?
[10:52] {GeoArb} linit or market?
[10:52] {GeoArb} also click or hotkeys?
[10:52] {Threei} limit below the inside price
[10:53] {GeoArb} ahhh
[10:53] {GeoArb} i was clicking inside
[10:53] {GeoArb} a couple below?
[10:53] {Threei} on fast stocks vcan be a bit late
[10:53] {Threei} yeah
[10:53] {Threei} some use hotkeys
[10:53] {Threei} some use mouse
[10:53] {GeoArb} i was looking if i can create a hot key.... something like sell bid smart route
[10:53] {magoo} i like to lay out ahead and let it come to my offee
[10:53] {lumdus} market still open ? LOL
[10:53] {dptl} got to leave early have a good one all
[10:53] {GeoArb} using OMS?
[10:54] {Threei} take care dp
[10:54] {Threei} OMS is for stops
[10:54] {GeoArb} bye dp
[10:54] {GeoArb} yes
[10:54] {GeoArb} thanks... ill look into hotkeys
[10:55] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.23
[11:00] {Threei} sorry, lost connection
[11:00] {GeoArb} man i was desparate
[11:00] {GeoArb} looks like i am addicted to this room :)
[11:01] {dino} y
[11:01] {Chaeron} so you go thru withdrawls atfter the close? :)
[11:01] {GeoArb} nope after first half
[11:01] {GeoArb} as i go to work :(
[11:01] {magoo} we were off\
[11:01] {lumdus} i got disconnected also
[11:02] {curtisweese} l aapl 131.63
[11:02] {curtisweese} here comes the run :)
[11:02] {bruce} sheesh
[11:03] {curtisweese} market is going up...come on market
[11:03] {bruce} vadster gave me tjhe boot
[11:03] {bruce} and I never even trouted him today
[11:03] {bruce} yet
[11:03] {dino} fwlt l .60
[11:04] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {esemde} ese....gets slimmed in backwash......
[11:04] {dino} sm cpla l .91
[11:05] {bruce} fwlt stop .35 or so dino?
[11:05] * GeoArb slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {judi} Judi and Jim signing in
[11:05] {GeoArb} just checking the tools :D
[11:06] {Threei} MF 10 break for a scalp
[11:06] {Threei} with .89 stop
[11:06] {Chaeron} in
[11:07] {magoo} in
[11:08] {Threei} no worky
[11:08] {bruce} stopped mf -15c
[11:08] {Chaeron} me out - stopped
[11:08] {magoo} out
[11:08] {lumdus} l amzn 72.52 stop 72.38
[11:10] {curtisweese} out aapl made .36
[11:10] {bruce} sheesh -I'm kiss of death vad- if I take trade they usually don't work
[11:10] {curtisweese} l aapl again 132.28
[11:13] {curtisweese} here we go
[11:13] {magoo} its when the 3 of us do {chaer, bruce, magoo}
[11:13] {lumdus} out amzn 72.78
[11:13] {Chaeron} lol
[11:14] {curtisweese} market going up aapl down? any news?
[11:15] {Threei} nothing AAPL specific
[11:15] {curtisweese} i lowering my stop....that's too weird....it is someone messing with the market! lol
[11:19] {curtisweese} out aapl lost .07
[11:21] {bruce} ebay long candiate on 28.10 break
[11:22] {lumdus} curtis, don't blame me i aint messin with the amrket
[11:22] {dino} de l .98 sm
[11:22] {curtisweese} l aapl 132.03
[11:23] {curtisweese} oh man...come on market!
[11:24] {lumdus} lot of scared folks today. we need a nice turnaround now.
[11:25] {dino} it's all lum's fault
[11:26] {curtisweese} vad ...what does aapl chart look like to you...breakdown or up?
[11:26] {curtisweese} nev mind...market pulling it up
[11:27] {Threei} AAPL is disconnected somewhat
[11:28] {curtisweese} yeah! it is weird
[11:31] {bruce} fwlt holding 54 so far dino
[11:31] {lumdus} maybe aapl good short ?
[11:31] {magoo} RIMM vad 106 magnate?
[11:32] {Threei} RIMM will do what market will... unlike AAPL which lives in its own world today
[11:32] {Threei} and yes, AAPl starts looking like short
[11:33] {Threei} .20 nearest resistance, let's see how it acts here
[11:33] {Threei} if breaks it no read
[11:34] {dino} y bruce
[11:34] {curtisweese} i'll bite... s aapl 132
[11:35] {Threei} stop above .20
[11:37] {lumdus} vad, you think jpm due for some pullback ?
[11:38] {curtisweese} die aapl die!
[11:38] {Threei} there are no signs either way on the chart lum
[11:38] {Threei} it's horribly overextended on daily
[11:38] {Threei} but it doesn't mean it's ready to drop
[11:39] {lumdus} let me give it a shot short jpm 44.81 stop 44.87
[11:39] {Threei} market can stay insane longer than reasonable man could suggest
[11:39] {lumdus} risk vs reward is worth it i think on the downside
[11:39] {Threei} withg such tight stop, why not
[11:40] {lumdus} i think maybe .50 i can cover if it works :)
[11:42] {curtisweese} out lost .18
[11:42] {lumdus} hmm, no worky jpm yet
[11:42] {bruce} stopped aapl -.20c
[11:42] {Threei} nothing is really
[11:42] {lumdus} very surprised it look too good.
[11:42] {Threei} a lot of meaningless moves
[11:42] {Threei} moast of them are noise
[11:45] {Threei} V starts looking like going to 61
[11:45] {dino} out cpla .31 +.40
[11:46] {bruce} ewz may reverse near here dino
[11:46] {Chaeron} my chart screwed up on V with LASER...
[11:46] {Threei} this is because of wierd print at 199
[11:46] {Chaeron} that must have been my buy
[11:46] {curtisweese} dino...nice
[11:48] {curtisweese} s aapl 132.02
[11:48] {dino} ewz around 77.60s
[11:48] {dino} imo
[11:48] {bruce} k - still determined to go down now for sure
[11:49] {bruce} we have higher low in fwlt now
[11:49] {curtisweese} put aapl short made .32
[11:49] {dino} i'm in it sm .60, wide
[11:49] {dino} fmcn
[11:51] {Threei} nice going AAPL
[11:51] {curtisweese} thanks!
[11:56] {bruce} k- still wtching - want to see .27 hold
[11:58] {Threei} judi, dcc please
[11:58] {dino} bwld won't move, bstop to b/e
[11:59] {curtisweese} s aapl 131.75
[12:00] {Threei} remember our old swing trade VLNC?
[12:00] {Threei} made new 52 high today
[12:00] {Threei} worth keeping an eye on
[12:01] {curtisweese} out aapl short made .20
[12:03] {curtisweese} s aapl again 131.61
[12:03] {bruce} artc starting to look like short candidate dino
[12:05] {curtisweese} out lost .03
[12:05] {Threei} LEH CFO: HAVE PICKED UP SOME BSC CLIENTS, 'RETICENT' ABOUT 'PICKING OVER THE BONES' AT BSC - INTERVIEW COMMENTS
- Says used Fed lending facilitiy last night
[12:05] {Threei} - Says firm did lose some 'jittery' clients, but expects some of those clients to come back
[12:06] {dino} i can't borrow it artc
[12:06] {curtisweese} 1 more try aapl short 131.65
[12:07] {curtisweese} out lost .08 :(
[12:07] {bruce} k
[12:10] {dino} bwld stopped +.04
[12:13] {dino} ewz l sm .75
[12:16] {curtisweese} l aapl 131.82
[12:17] {curtisweese} out aapl made .1
[12:20] {curtisweese} l aapl 131.89
[12:20] {curtisweese} out lost .1 :(
[12:22] {GeoArb} test
[12:24] {Chaeron} I hope not... I didn't study
[12:26] {curtisweese} s aapl 131.83
[12:27] {bruce} out ewz -.20c
[12:28] {curtisweese} out aapl chicken that i am made .05
[12:29] {esemde} bstop BWLD 23.76....
[12:32] {dino} fmcn run
[12:32] {curtisweese} i gotta go so L aapl 131.86 and then i'm done for sure! break 132 aapl....come on!!!!!
[12:32] {Threei} hawk, looks dcc please
[12:33] {curtisweese} out aapl made .14 okay...bye everyone happy trading
[12:33] {Threei} VLNC, 4.20 break long, NOT a day trade most likely
[12:33] {Threei} take care curtis
[12:34] {bruce} I like bhp longhere dino
[12:34] {esemde} see ya curtis
[12:36] {dino} dwsn s l .20 wide, spready
[12:36] {dino} fmcn off of .00 l, sm wide
[12:39] {dino} ewz stopped-.40
[12:41] {Threei} FNM .11 long if stays above 31
[12:42] {Threei} invalidated
[12:42] {GeoArb} not a good day today
[12:42] {GeoArb} and i took th day off hehehehehe
[12:42] {magoo} aapl bounce soon vad?
[12:43] {Threei} no read on it magoo
[12:44] {Threei} so it's all your fault geo
[12:44] {GeoArb} yup :(
[12:51] {Threei} just as we adjusted to bear market and traded nicely for a month or so, it turned into bull and threw us off :)
[12:53] {magoo} any read V vad??
[12:53] {Threei} too hectic on its first day
[12:54] {Threei} it feels like a good trading candidate when first fever dies down
[12:54] {Threei} let's give it a few days
[12:56] {magoo} any read RIMM vad}??
[12:58] {Threei} .50 break is asking to be bought
[12:58] {dino} out fmcn .05, +1.05
[12:58] {Threei} but everything is tolugh read today
[13:00] {bruce} out bhp - only +08 but at least a win
[13:00] {bruce} wow - congrats dino
[13:01] {magoo} are markets open easter monday anyone?
[13:01] {dino} ty lucky
[13:01] {dino} y
[13:01] {bruce} coulda used a treade like that
[13:03] {dino} lets find one then
[13:03] {dino} big pull back fmcn
[13:03] {bruce} looking
[13:04] {bruce} yes - watching it - still has room to go long
[13:05] {bruce} de starting to look long to me here dino
[13:05] {Threei} IRAQ SET TO SIGN DEALS WORTH UP TO $2.5B NEXT MONTH WITH 5 MAJORS TO BOOST OIL OUTPUT BY 500K BPD - GOVERNMENT ADVISOR
[13:06] {bruce} thats what iraq needs - an econmy and some people working again
[13:11] {Threei} LEH short 44 break
[13:11] {Threei} half lot
[13:12] {Threei} stop above .20
[13:14] {Chaeron} in
[13:15] {Chaeron} s LEH .98
[13:15] {Threei} 1:1
[13:16] {Threei} MER drops like a rock
[13:16] {Threei} no reason for LEH not to follow
[13:18] {dino} rumors mer 10billion hit coming
[13:19] {Chaeron} oi
[13:19] {Threei} isn't it nice
[13:19] {Threei} they throw billions around like kids throw toys in a sandbox
[13:20] {dino} funny, they are supposedly the "pros" at this stuff
[13:20] {GeoArb} dino ... whats the source of rumor?
[13:21] {Threei} every time I see all those nicely framed certificates on the wall in some financial advisor office, i think:
[13:21] {Threei} have you made anything in the market trading your own money, ever?
[13:21] {Chaeron} another piece of toilet paper?
[13:22] {Chaeron} dang market trying up
[13:22] {dino} doug kass realmoney.com
[13:22] {GeoArb} thnks
[13:22] {Threei} I guess now it's a rumor of previous rumor being not true?
[13:23] {GeoArb} out
[13:28] {Threei} too bad haven't reshorted LEH
[13:28] {GeoArb} you out too vad?
[13:28] {Threei} on a first drop into .70
[13:28] {GeoArb} ah
[13:29] {GeoArb} i let it go against me
[13:29] {Chaeron} I am by accident @ 44.03... don't know how...
[13:29] {GeoArb} didnt book
[13:29] {Threei} then couldn't get a new read on it as it went above two resistance levels
[13:29] {Chaeron} -.05
[13:29] {GeoArb} sheesh.... i shouldnt stay at home
[13:32] {Threei} wow
[13:32] {Threei} it went to .62 - 65 area twice, you haven't taken any?
[13:32] {bruce} I got out flat - was waiting at .50 for leh - greedy I guess
[13:33] {GeoArb} no was too slow
[13:33] {GeoArb} heh.... yup and then got stopped :)
[13:33] {bruce} vad made right choice grabbing 30c
[13:33] {dino} out dwsn .80, +.60
[13:34] {GeoArb} y
[13:34] {dino} opps, partial out
[13:34] {GeoArb} S LEH 43.59
[13:34] {bruce} great dino - you're on fire - didn't see that entry
[13:37] {dino} scroll up 12:37
[13:37] {bruce} yup - there it is - did I say I can read?
[13:38] {dino} oil -5 bucks
[13:38] {dino} gold -56
[13:42] {bruce} they'll pay us 56 bucks to take gold offhands? - im in for that
[13:44] {dino} sm risky l fmcn .35 wide
[13:46] {dino} out fmcn .85, +.50
[13:47] {bruce} nice -
[13:47] {dino} ty
[13:48] {bruce} I had no read long or short in it - fmcn has my number
[13:49] {dino} waiting at .30
[13:49] {bruce} stld looks like long candidate to me dino -
[13:53] {dino} y
[13:53] {bruce} tanking for moment
[13:56] {bruce} double bottom fwlt -
[13:58] {esemde} still have bstop on BWLD
[13:58] {esemde} 23.76
[13:58] {dino} lol
[13:58] {dino} thing won't move
[14:01] {esemde} ya ..it's lookin like it
[14:01] {dino} sm l stld .00
[14:02] {esemde} it's got indigestion dino......Hot Wings
[14:02] {dino} somethings holding it up
[14:06] {Threei} esemde, look dcc please
[14:10] {esemde} hi Vad ...just saw the dcc
[14:10] {lumdus} maybe little bounce here ?
[14:12] {bruce} l stld sm .77
[14:14] {bruce} stop .65
[14:15] {dino} ccow
[14:21] {dino} fcsx sm l .90
[14:26] {dino} fcsx stopped -.40
[14:27] {bruce} exit stld +.05 - dont care for this weakness
[14:31] {dino} my stop is .64
[14:32] {bruce} sounds good - we have a couple lower highs now so not very confident as long here -
[14:32] {bruce} still think low is near th0ough
[14:34] {esemde} Ok dino....am removing my bstop on BWLD......
[14:35] {dino} surprised you're still talking to me w/that one
[14:35] {esemde} pourquo?
[14:37] {esemde} it's still a good bet
[14:37] {dino} stld stoppedddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[14:37] {dino} y
[14:37] {bruce} adsk scaalp prospect on break of .91
[14:37] {bruce} sorry dino
[14:38] {dino} no worries
[14:38] {bruce} nyet on adsk
[14:40] {bruce} taking break
[14:41] {bruce} I hink fmcn is long prsopect near here dino
[14:41] {dino} financials blowing up
[14:42] {bruce} k- vad probably withdrew his cash
[14:42] {bruce} entire american economic system in ruins
[14:43] {dino} nah
[14:46] {lumdus} yeah, we just got to short the whole american economy and we be gok.
[14:46] {Threei} not yet bruce... but fed is working on it
[14:48] {dino} re-inflate it all, thats what they will do. its the fastest way out
[14:48] {dino} sm l fmcn .51
[14:50] {Threei} both LEH and MER look tempting to short off resistance
[14:51] {Threei} market looks like about to tank as if world ends
[14:51] {dino} what resistance lol
[14:51] {Threei} MER is right at one
[14:51] {judi} ty dino fmcn good l +.15
[14:52] {Threei} LEH can't quite climb there
[14:53] {Threei} 40 cents drop MER from the resistance
[14:54] {dino} :)
[14:55] {lumdus} if themarket drops again, i like amzn for reversal. very strong all day long
[14:58] {dino} dwsn sm l .52
[14:59] {lumdus} out amzn +.33
[14:59] {Threei} volume dried up on this bounce
[14:59] {Threei} if market wants time, it's time
[15:01] {lumdus} so leh we go short now ?
[15:02] {Threei} I have hard time finding entry points, too many shakeouts
[15:02] {Threei} JPM looks like deat spiral starts too
[15:05] {judi} for us a great + day, 5 for 5 trades, be back tomorrow thanks everyone
[15:09] {Threei} good job judi
[15:10] {dino} gj
[15:12] {Threei} OK, gotta try it
[15:12] {magoo} jpm short u m mean?
[15:12] {Threei} JPM stop over .20, looking for entry
[15:12] {magoo} how about MER?
[15:13] {Threei} one at a time for me
[15:13] {Threei} got .99
[15:14] {lumdus} of all the banks BSC looks like it wants up. way tooo funny
[15:14] {Threei} lol
[15:15] {Threei} well, that one already went through the circumcision of such a scale...
[15:15] {bruce} back
[15:15] {bruce} everybody make huge profits while I was gone?
[15:16] {Threei} judi did
[15:16] {bruce} k
[15:16] {lumdus} no bruce we all waited for you.
[15:16] {bruce} congrats judi
[15:16] {bruce} well thanx lum
[15:16] {bruce} now theres a gentleman
[15:17] {bruce} Ilike apol long here dino
[15:18] {lumdus} jpm not behaving like vad wants.
[15:18] {esemde} signing off ladies and gentlemen....see ya tomorrow
[15:18] {lumdus} maybe we need to wack it a little big
[15:18] {Threei} bye ese, see you tomorrow
[15:19] {magoo} vad..are JPM & MER independent of mkt todaty?
[15:19] {Threei} not totally
[15:19] {Threei} no absolute correlation but still
[15:21] {lumdus} in amzn 72.00 stop 71.94
[15:22] {dino} apol dk
[15:22] {lumdus} if we have rebound now, amzn go nice - othewise i lose .05
[15:22] {Threei} moving JPM stop to .05
[15:22] {Threei} no point in risking too much on it
[15:24] {Threei} should I stop being a hypocrite and just grab 10 cents on JPM?
[15:25] {GeoArb} heh i did
[15:25] {Threei} hehe
[15:25] {GeoArb} looks choppy
[15:25] {Threei} I just find it hard to believe this thing is still holding
[15:26] {Threei} whatever... with 6 cents stop I'll give it a chance
[15:26] {Threei} although not many stocks missed a chance to shake me out today, lol
[15:27] {GeoArb} yeah crappy day
[15:27] {GeoArb} -ve oday
[15:27] {GeoArb} should sneak trades from work
[15:27] {GeoArb} much better
[15:27] {Threei} die you lousy financial monstrousity
[15:28] {Threei} 1:1
[15:28] {Threei} covered half
[15:29] * Threei is sending to magoo request for death dance for JPM
[15:30] {GeoArb} all scalps turing in daytrades :D
[15:30] {magoo} die DDDDDDDDDUIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[15:30] {Threei} movement wise this one is completed as a scalp
[15:30] {dino} daa daa daa....uh huh, uh huh
[15:30] {Threei} I just want more from it
[15:31] {GeoArb} comeone guys dont kill it
[15:31] {GeoArb} it holds my home mortgage !!!
[15:31] {Threei} why not
[15:31] {Threei} so?
[15:31] {Threei} it's not like they owe you
[15:31] {Threei} you owe them
[15:31] {GeoArb} well as long as loan is forgiven hehehehe
[15:31] {Threei} they go under, you are mortgage-free :)
[15:31] {GeoArb} KILL IT NOW !!!!
[15:31] {Threei} there
[15:31] {ThurstonHowellTheThird} lol
[15:32] {Chaeron} lol... routing for ya Geo
[15:32] {GeoArb} i was bored so orded vad;s book
[15:32] {GeoArb} AFTER buying the course
[15:33] {Threei} which book?
[15:33] {dino} you'll be really bored when it arrives, lol
[15:33] {GeoArb} tape
[15:33] {Threei} TTR?
[15:33] {GeoArb} y
[15:33] {Threei} you won't regret it
[15:33] {GeoArb} i really need to figure out whats JBE and DBI (cant figure out when he says it)
[15:33] {GeoArb} :D
[15:33] {Threei} lol
[15:33] {Threei} magoo
[15:34] {Threei} can you put your elbow in dino's ribcage please?
[15:34] {dino} :)
[15:34] {Threei} :)
[15:34] {magoo} just thru easy button at him
[15:34] {dino} i'm driving him crazy today
[15:35] {Threei} your market today?
[15:35] {dino} lod
[15:35] {dino} below goal, but not bad
[15:35] {Threei} good job
[15:35] {Threei} not my market
[15:35] {Threei} JPM trade will put me at breakeven at best
[15:36] {GeoArb} yeah.... i got scared out
[15:36] {Threei} too many shakes
[15:36] {GeoArb} so -ve
[15:36] {Threei} all stops are within a reason, just a tad too many of them
[15:36] {dino} i think i need to buy this dip
[15:36] {Threei} thanks for NFLX trade and something else that I forgot that kept me not too deep under water
[15:37] {Threei} so JPM should take me at the surafce
[15:37] {Threei} hear that, morgan?
[15:37] {Threei} die
[15:37] {Threei} 1:2, 1/4 more out
[15:37] {Threei} +.40
[15:38] {dino} wow oih -10
[15:38] {Threei} that's some day... equities, oil aand gold down
[15:39] {Threei} btw guys, futures symbol rollover, don't forget
[15:41] {GeoArb} you know maybe i am wrong but my personal opinion is that LII doesnt help me much
[15:42] {dino} everyone is different
[15:42] {GeoArb} maybe am a newbies at ths but get a headache
[15:42] {Threei} what are you trying to use it for?
[15:42] {dino} no, thats just the market in general
[15:43] {GeoArb} mostly for thickness fo stock and volatility
[15:43] {GeoArb} not direction
[15:43] {Threei} right
[15:43] {Threei} so how does it not help?
[15:43] {GeoArb} but even those if my scanner is right i see only the good ones
[15:43] {GeoArb} right?
[15:43] {Threei} look at level 2 BIDU
[15:44] {Threei} and JPM
[15:44] {GeoArb} ok
[15:44] {Threei} which one is safer, by just a single glance on level 2
[15:44] {GeoArb} jpm
[15:44] {Threei} there
[15:44] {GeoArb} wide spread in bidu
[15:44] {Threei} what else do you want from level2? :)
[15:44] {GeoArb} but if my scanner had a max spread filter
[15:44] {Threei} it allowed you to evaluate risk in one second
[15:44] {GeoArb} bidu would never show up
[15:45] {Threei} ummm
[15:45] {Threei} not necesasary
[15:45] {Threei} spread is one factor
[15:45] {Threei} sizes, gap between levels, pace
[15:45] {Threei} all that is not something scanner will help with
[15:45] {GeoArb} can scan for size but not for level and pace agreed
[15:46] {Threei} trailing JPM last portion to .85
[15:48] {Threei} out
[15:49] {Threei} last trade of the day took the day from negative to useless
[15:49] {GeoArb} i promise not to stay home
[15:49] {Threei} thank you
[15:51] {GeoArb} learned a lot.... good days and bad
[15:51] {GeoArb} thanks vad and eveyone
[15:51] {GeoArb} bye
[15:51] {Threei} geo, you are perfectionist, aren't you
[15:51] {dino} fmcn stopped
[15:51] {GeoArb} just an engineer
[15:51] {Threei} biggest winning day is 7 times bigger than biggest losing
[15:52] {Threei} and 4 winning out of 6
[15:52] {GeoArb} thats was lucky bsc short
[15:52] {GeoArb} an abberration
[15:52] {Threei} sigh
[15:52] {Threei} those engineers
[15:53] {GeoArb} "those" forgot previous life eh?
[15:53] {Threei} lol
[15:53] {Threei} life is full of aberrations
[15:54] {Threei} Ok guys, thank you all
[15:54] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:55] {bruce} vad - glad you had OK day
[15:55] {Threei} OK is too loud
[15:55] {Threei} barely scratched my way to flat
[15:55] {bruce} k -
[15:56] {bruce} not I
[15:56] {bruce} keep getting almosty all your losing trades and missing wins
[15:56] {bruce} not sure what to do except stop taking all yur calls
[15:56] {Threei} or take all of them?
[15:57] {bruce} not always possible
[15:57] {Threei} it's your selection that undermined your performance today
[15:57] {dino} adding sm de overnight, holding dwsn, adding sm fwlt overnight
[15:57] {Threei} well, whatever you do or whoever you follow, you never will get all of them, right?
[15:58] {bruce} agreed and understood
[15:58] {Threei} most of them gave ample time for entery
[15:58] {Threei} JPM was available
[15:58] {Threei} NFLX too
[15:58] {bruce} missed those
[16:00] {dino} -300, 366 pt range
[16:17] {bruce} you expecting long bounce de overnight dno?
[16:19] {dino} y
[16:20] {bruce} its at support
[16:20] {bruce} but no sign of a reversal here
[16:22] {bruce} hope it works out
[16:25] {dino} small position, not too worried
[16:27] {bruce} I've been learning lots from you
[16:27] {bruce} want to thank you
[16:27] {bruce} still not able to read spikes -
[16:28] {bruce} \but I think I can see some progress on reading slower reversals
[16:28] {bruce} night all
[16:34] {dino} you're doing fine bruce, i see it. you're very good at capitulations
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