Wednesday, September 3, 2008

Sep 03 2008

Session Time: Wed Sep 03 00:00:00 2008
[08:50] {Threei} Good morning
[08:50] {Threei} watching ABK
[08:51] {Threei} 09/02/08 04:41pm [ABK] Receives regulatory approval for Connie Lee capital contribution - formal release
[08:51] {Threei} 09/02/08 04:56pm [ABK] Releases selected monthly data for July 2008; July normal premiums earned $53.1M v $53.1M quarter to date
[08:52] {Threei} 8 is daily resistance
[08:52] {Threei} broken slightly earlier
[08:58] {tomg} good morning
[08:59] {fernp} Good morning all
[09:00] {Threei} tom, fern :)
[09:02] {cosmo} SIGA
[09:02] {Threei} [SIGA] SIGA Technologies, Inc Wins $55M US govt to Develop Broader Applications for its contract Lead Drug Candidate ST-246
[09:02] {Threei} hmmm
[09:03] {Threei} isn't it same 55 mil announced last week?
[09:03] {cosmo} i like st-357 ...personally
[09:04] {Threei} it's shortable
[09:04] {Threei} worth watching for a sell-the-news
[09:05] {cosmo} Briefing.com(Wed 8:01am)
[09:05] {Threei} 08/29/08 02:54pm [SIGA] SIGA Technologies, Inc Update: Reportedly awarded $55M contract from the NIH
[09:06] {cosmo} hmm
[09:06] {esemde} good morning....
[09:06] {Threei} ese :)
[09:10] {dptl} good morning all
[09:10] {Onix} good morning everybody
[09:11] {Threei} dp, onix :)
[09:15] {magoo} ygfhjh
[09:16] {Threei} kolting, mgortkle
[09:16] {cosmo} "
[09:16] {dino} gm all
[09:17] {dino} mdvn
[09:17] {Threei} dino :)
[09:19] {tomg} uaua vad?
[09:20] {Threei} mirrors USO still
[09:20] {Threei} not sure for now
[09:20] {Threei} I feel safer playing UAUA off sharp USO moves
[09:20] {tomg} ty
[09:20] {Threei} when UAUA gives that little delay for entry
[09:21] {Threei} those plays are almost infallible
[09:21] {dino} joyg beats and drops hard again
[09:21] {dino} frx strange, studies ok
[09:22] {pita} gm everyone
[09:22] {Threei} pita :)
[09:22] {Threei} yesterday'
[09:22] {Threei} s high is 4.13 for SIGA
[09:23] {Threei} want to see wtehter this development brings sustainable buying, or it's a one day wonder
[09:24] {cosmo} needs to hold 3.90 imo
[09:25] {cosmo} should hold 4 imho
[09:30] {Threei} wow
[09:30] {Threei} what was that on UAUA
[09:31] {magoo} getting nasty
[09:36] {Threei} COIN
[09:36] {Threei} pullback closer to 6 is for long entry
[09:38] {Threei} stock is volatile, buying .25 break is very risky
[09:38] {dino} 11330 target dji
[09:39] {Threei} if USO spikes sharply through 87.60, UAUA short under .70
[09:39] {Threei} with stop above .80
[09:40] {Threei} in .68
[09:40] {magoo} in .676
[09:41] {Threei} I guess we missed COIN
[09:41] {magoo} in .38
[09:41] {Threei} wow
[09:41] {Threei} that's a lot of chasing
[09:41] {Threei} if you wanted a break .30 was available
[09:41] {magoo} saw it beraking out
[09:42] {magoo} out .65
[09:42] {magoo} TY
[09:42] {Threei} welcome... gutsy :)
[09:43] {magoo} weird..magoo tajking a gutsy play
[09:43] {Threei} really
[09:44] {dino} v sm v wide, mdvn l .00
[09:45] {peterg} gm all
[09:45] {Threei} peter :)
[09:47] {Threei} finally UAUA
[09:47] {Threei} 1:1
[09:48] {Threei} ugh, we forgot to short SIGA
[09:51] {Threei} Short Setup: SIGA .70 half lot
[09:51] {GeoArb} gm
[09:51] {Threei} stop above .80
[09:51] {magoo} vad..look coin
[09:51] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:51] {magoo} just phoned me
[09:51] {Threei} I know
[09:51] {Threei} I gave it your phone number
[09:52] {magoo} ahhhhhh
[09:53] {Threei} Long Setup: JASO 17 break if stays above .90
[09:53] {Threei} wow
[09:53] {Threei} had bid to cover 3.56 on SIGA
[09:54] {Threei} got hit for 433 shares
[09:54] {Threei} 67 left
[09:55] {Threei} FED DOES NOT CONDUCT OPEN MARKET OPERATIONS AT THE USUAL TIME OF 9:30AM
[09:55] {Threei} why?
[09:55] {Threei} no need or no mopney?
[09:55] {patience} they took the day off?
[09:56] {magoo} in jaso
[09:56] {magoo} .99
[09:58] {magoo} sheesh, thats it'
[09:58] {Threei} hit 1:1, then market retreated a bit
[09:59] {Threei} recovers now
[09:59] {Threei} stop is still under .90
[09:59] {magoo} not complaining..just man o man..a scalpers mkt
[10:00] {GeoArb} *JULY FACTORY ORDERS: 1.3% V 1.0%E- prior revised from 1.7% to 2.1%
[10:00] {Threei} JULY FACTORY ORDERS: 1.3% V 1.0%E
[10:00] {Threei} - prior revised from 1.7% to 2.1%
[10:01] {Threei} let's scratch SIGA if hits .75
[10:01] {Threei} OK mags, second chance is coming
[10:02] {magoo} .31 area}?
[10:02] {Threei} why don't you partial
[10:02] {magoo} or 1:!?
[10:02] {Threei} and let it decide
[10:02] {Threei} half out, stop to .94
[10:02] {magoo} ok. ..out .12 half
[10:03] {esemde} NVDA possibly hit botom here....
[10:05] {Threei} VPHM
[10:05] {Threei} Long Setup: VPHM 15 break
[10:05] {Threei} 14.84 stop
[10:05] {dino} mdvn stop to .09
[10:07] {Threei} JASO doesn't retreat much with market this time
[10:07] {Threei} encouraging sign
[10:07] {esemde} vad ...do you bstop that at 15 or 15.01
[10:08] {Threei} 15.01, but will hit it if 15 scrolls fast
[10:08] {esemde} VPhm that is
[10:08] {Threei} I do it manually
[10:08] {esemde} tks
[10:08] {Threei} limit about 15.03
[10:09] {dino} out mdvn .09, +1.09
[10:09] {Threei} clicking when/if 15 melts down as if all global warming concetrated in this single stock
[10:10] {esemde} hmmmmm interesting analygy
[10:11] {esemde} write that book....global warming and stock trading
[10:11] {peterg} wtg dino
[10:11] {Threei} no worky second half JASO
[10:11] {magoo} stopped remainder JASO .89
[10:11] {Threei} beauty dino
[10:15] {Threei} OK, let's see if this market bounce takes VPHM through the resistance
[10:15] {magoo} vphm held well in that selloff
[10:15] {Threei} acts like salmon so far
[10:15] {Threei} yup
[10:15] {tomg} abk
[10:15] {Threei} and making 52 week highs while market is like this is impressive
[10:16] {magoo} wheres your exit?.13
[10:17] {Threei} am I going senile or what
[10:17] {Threei} commented on ABK
[10:17] {Threei} [08:52] {Threei} 8 is daily resistance
[10:17] {Threei} [08:52] {Threei} broken slightly earlier
[10:17] {Threei} and forgot to watch it for a break?
[10:17] {Threei} sigh
[10:22] {pita} what's with USO / UAUA ?
[10:22] {Threei} nothing happens there
[10:22] {Threei} both stalled
[10:23] {dino} thx peter
[10:23] {Onix} vphm?
[10:23] {Threei} ?
[10:24] {Threei} triggered
[10:24] {Threei} wow... now UAUA is moving sharply
[10:25] {Onix} in @ 15.01
[10:25] {Threei} didn't get advance lead from USO
[10:26] {Threei} PREVIEW: AUG US VEHICLE SALES NUMBERS EXPECTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY FROM MAJOR AUTO MAKERS
[10:26] {Threei} **consensus estimates:
[10:26] {Threei} - Ford: -21%e (usually released at Noon ET).
[10:26] {Threei} - GM: -29%e (usually released around 1:45pmET).
[10:32] {dino} watching pcln
[10:32] {Threei} VPHM stop to .89
[10:33] {Threei} I need my decoder ring for this
[10:34] {Threei} UBS'S WEIL: US MARKET IS NOT "A PLACE YOU CAN STAY AWAY FROM"
[10:34] {dino} or stay in
[10:34] {Threei} lol
[10:38] {dino} sm l mdvn .10
[10:43] {Threei} VPHM stop to .94
[10:43] {Threei} hit 1:1
[10:43] {Threei} time to trail the stop whether you partialled out or not
[10:49] {dino} pcln sm l .10
[10:55] {dino} v sm wide l rimm .00
[10:58] {Threei} CLNE got new portion of TV hype
[10:58] {Threei} trailing stop hit VPHM
[11:00] {Threei} sharp down USO
[11:01] {magoo} is the qqq correlated also to uso?
[11:01] {Threei} often
[11:01] {Threei} there are days when market is all about oil
[11:01] {Threei} then you see good correlation
[11:07] {magoo} sao let me bring it home...uso drops..qqqq pops...and aapl rocks
[11:07] {dino} not yesterday
[11:08] {Threei} unless it's a day when AAPL moves on its own, yes
[11:08] {Threei} yesterday market was just plain s3elling throughout the day
[11:09] {Threei} look at AAPL/RIMM divergency today
[11:09] {Threei} don't know what gives
[11:09] {dino} yeah w/oil/uso down multiple dollars
[11:10] {Threei} yup... even though oil went up on intraday, market weakness was not corresponding
[11:10] {Threei} as oil worries ease, market finds other things to worry about
[11:11] {Threei} and sheesh, are there such things
[11:22] {Threei} RIMM
[11:22] {Threei} watching for short
[11:22] {Threei} .50 trigger
[11:23] {Threei} look to cover under .30
[11:23] {Threei} stop above .70
[11:26] {Threei} no worky... 5 cents shy of target
[11:30] {Threei} ugh... shakeout
[11:31] {Chaeron} dang... that's just rude.... 'morning all
[11:31] {magoo} thats what i believe has been tough of late..seems there are more shakeouts than yrs before
[11:32] {Threei} hi chaeron
[11:34] {Threei} Nissan REPORTS AUG US VEHICLE SALES UP 14.2%
[11:35] {magoo} up???
[11:36] {Threei} can you believe it
[11:36] {Threei} awww RIMM
[11:36] {Threei} it IS rude
[11:38] {Threei} repeat of yesterday dino... oil is down, market goes down nonetheless
[11:38] {dino} y
[11:38] {magoo} yeah..pointer
[11:38] {Threei} TSX is getting killed again
[11:38] {dino} seems to me all we have is a wide trading range
[11:39] {Threei} well, if we repeat yesterday RIMM is going to be a two points bouncer later on
[11:39] {peterg} just say the word
[11:40] {Threei} waiting for now
[11:40] {peterg} right
[11:40] {Threei} rfemember how RIMM bottom formed yesterday?
[11:40] {Threei} wasn't a V type
[11:40] {magoo} double bottom
[11:40] {Threei} it stabilized for a while, then got upside momo
[11:40] {Threei} yes, formed double bottom
[11:41] {Threei} what's with URRE?
[11:42] {Threei} no news that I see
06[11:42] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[11:42] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:42] {dino} problem is markets want to test the bottom of range 1800 ndx, 11330 dji
[11:42] {Threei} magoo??
[11:43] {dino} rimm was leader yesterday on the bounce
[11:43] {Threei} OK, one more pullback on RIMM{ bottoming not lower than .30,and break of .50
[11:43] {dino} afam hmmm
[11:43] {Threei} will be first attempt worth a try
[11:45] {Threei} just a scalp, not ready for a big bounce yet IMOout +.25
[11:46] {Threei} anyone got it?
[11:47] {magoo} vad, noyt even a minute between your calll, in out
[11:47] {magoo} no
[11:47] {peterg} in out for .12
[11:49] {magoo} just saying..if sleeping..tough to wake up..get bearings..look at pick..hit it..get out...and ty all in minute
[11:49] {Threei} lol
[11:49] {Threei} I assumed you had it on screen and watched it
[11:49] {magoo} yup
[11:49] {magoo} always
[11:50] {Threei} was sufficient time for entey then... wake up will ya
[11:50] {magoo} i think u shopuld play rimm aapl more...u read them well
[11:50] {Threei} well, it's not about read only
[11:50] {magoo} OY..here he goes
[11:50] {Threei} risk on those is beyond tolerance of many
[11:50] {Threei} don't want to focus strictly on this kind
[11:51] {Threei} I know you like bloody roast beef mags... but I cook for pasta fans too :)
[11:52] {Threei} anyone sees anything behind URRE move?
[11:52] {Threei} are we building nuclear reactors already all over NA?
[11:52] {Threei} sorry... nucular
[11:53] {magoo} uh vad...look to your right
[11:53] {magoo} u too chjaewr
[11:53] {magoo} chear
[11:54] {dino} ttwo
[11:54] {Chaeron} ?
[11:54] {magoo} sheesh
06[11:55] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:55] {Chaeron} [08:40] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:55] {Chaeron} [08:40] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:55] {Threei} jeez
[11:55] {Threei} he IS sleeping
06[11:55] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:55] {Chaeron} not as bad as him getting me to look out my window......
[11:55] {laserdave1} o sorry was it magoo who slapped me?
06[11:55] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:56] {Chaeron} great aim Dave...
[11:56] {laserdave1} ty
[11:56] {pita} later all
[11:56] {laserdave1} market crazy candle
[11:56] {Chaeron} bye pita
[11:56] {Threei} take care pita
[12:01] {Threei} F
[12:01] {Threei} REPORTS AUG VEHICLE SALES -26.6% V -21%E
[12:01] {Threei} - Cutting 2H North American production forecast
[12:02] {Threei} RIMM not making new low
[12:04] {Threei} OK... RIMM long with stop under .50
[12:04] {Threei} this time more than scalp
[12:05] {magoo} where u in? i .78
[12:05] {Threei} .76
[12:05] {Threei} immaterial difference
[12:06] {Threei} if holding above .50, should take 116 and try for 16.50
[12:06] {Threei} hope no shakeout this time
[12:06] {magoo} yeah
[12:06] {laserdave1} nice bid
[12:06] {magoo} thats roman
[12:07] {Threei} real too
[12:07] {Threei} takes sellers
[12:08] {Threei} come on, move
[12:08] {magoo} kickin it vad
[12:08] {Threei} hate it when it takes so long to jump while such bidder supports it
[12:10] {laserdave1} had to take it
[12:10] {laserdave1} thanks for trade Vadster
[12:10] {Threei} you sure you kicked right side magoo?
[12:10] {magoo} yeah
[12:10] {Threei} didn't work yet dave
[12:10] {Threei} market sharp downtick
[12:10] {Threei} grrr
[12:11] {magoo} ditto grr
[12:12] {peterg} again, stupidity prevails-bot, sold, ss, covered. little loss
[12:12] {Threei} hmm?
[12:12] {peterg} hit sell twice in exit
[12:12] {Threei} double clicking or what?
[12:12] {Threei} oh I see
[12:12] {peterg} yep
[12:13] {peterg} should wear gloves
[12:16] {dino} ttwo l sm .25
[12:18] {dino} afam sm l .50
[12:19] {dino} dji -3%+ since yesterday
[12:20] {Threei} next try is coming
[12:21] {Threei} break of .50 long
[12:21] {magoo} aapl too
[12:21] {Threei} stop under .30
[12:21] {Threei} don't play these stocks if not willing to take a few stops
[12:21] {Threei} idea is, small stops and hunting for a big bounce
[12:22] {magoo} small shares too vad{tell them}
[12:22] {Threei} lol... I believe it's a given on RIMM/AAPL
[12:23] {dino} smaller shares wider stops
[12:24] {Threei} OK... NQ has a feel of finding the bottom finally
[12:24] {Threei} let's see if this is the entry
[12:25] {Threei} also, AKAM .61 long if stays above .50
[12:26] {Threei} this one is just a scalp
[12:30] {magoo} rimm should go
[12:30] {laserdave1} 45$ big level on qqqq now
[12:31] {magoo} previous resistance?
[12:31] {laserdave1} well just whole numbers are always key
[12:32] {magoo} ah
[12:33] {laserdave1} ok Vad
[12:33] {laserdave1} im in akam
[12:33] {laserdave1} i like it
[12:33] {Threei} gosh, what are you, buying 50 shares of it? Buy 100K, provide us with exit
[12:33] {laserdave1} will hold .50 as stop
[12:34] {laserdave1} lol
[12:34] {laserdave1} sorry
[12:34] {laserdave1} i got 1000 at .61
[12:34] {laserdave1} and buying o more
[12:34] {magoo} he he..i just sold 1k at .61
[12:34] {Threei} lol
[12:34] {laserdave1} haha
[12:35] {peterg} kik it vad
[12:36] {magoo} trook aa[pl long .68
[12:36] {magoo} sm
[12:36] {Threei} need NQ to break 1830 to make these entries truly work
[12:37] {Threei} truly as in grant us something really meaningful, not just another scalp
[12:38] {magoo} wait aapl .31
[12:38] {laserdave1} qqqq .97 bid
[12:39] {Threei} OK NQ
[12:39] {Threei} don't stop now
[12:39] {Threei} bottom is in, just go
[12:40] {Threei} RIMM is not in a hurry to follow btw
[12:40] {Threei} not sure I am jazzed about it
[12:46] {laserdave1} akam shoud bounce here
[12:46] {laserdave1} i hope
[12:49] {Threei} RIMM gave up
[12:49] {magoo} out aapl flat
[12:52] {laserdave1} im long rimm
[12:52] {laserdave1} stop 115
[12:52] {Threei} something isn't right
[12:52] {laserdave1} ya tons of size there
[12:52] {laserdave1} so i will hit the 115
[12:53] {Threei} it wouldn't go with NQ, then dropped even though NQ merely downticked a little
[12:53] {laserdave1} not wait till its gone
[12:53] {Threei} made new low while market stays put
[12:53] {laserdave1} if it goes down i wont miss 115
[12:53] {laserdave1} only got n cuz so much size on that level
[12:53] {laserdave1} if anyone is in
[12:54] {laserdave1} be carefull cuz if that level goes can be nasty candle
[12:54] {laserdave1} sell order .44 in case of rip up
[12:55] {magoo} \dammit aapl
[13:02] {laserdave1} rimm stopped
[13:02] {laserdave1} watch out to downside if breaks .90
[13:05] {laserdave1} rimm u animal
[13:05] {laserdave1} just to stop me out
[13:06] {magoo} this mkt blowws
[13:07] {Threei} today I agree with you
[13:08] {laserdave1} qqqq back above 45$
[13:09] {laserdave1} lets see if we rally
[13:09] {laserdave1} im not calling that though
[13:09] {patience} tsx down -251...just about time to get back into agrium and potash
[13:09] {laserdave1} just watching
[13:13] {laserdave1} market getting stronger
[13:16] {Threei} can't really tell if we start recovery or it's just another bounce before further slide
[13:18] {Threei} ABK is trying to pick up pace again
[13:20] {Threei} setup would be 8.85 long if stays above .70
[13:20] {Threei} withh aggressive entry if market spikes
[13:22] {Threei} US PRES BUSH: OIL WILL BE RELEASED FROM STRATEGIC PETROLEUM RESERVE UPON REQUEST
[13:22] {Threei} {USO}
[13:22] {magoo} request of whom?
[13:23] {dino} me
[13:23] {magoo} i request it to be delivered to my home
[13:23] {Threei} all of it?
[13:24] {Threei} sheik magoo they called him
[13:24] {dino} classic politician, buy it/fill it higher, release it when oil is 1/3 lower. and just think they run the tax system
[13:24] {Threei} lol
[13:25] {Threei} oil spike
[13:25] {dino} seriously, if they had any brains, they would do the reverse and for once make some $ on it
[13:25] {Threei} new low RIMM
[13:26] {Threei} glad I didn't trust the bounce
[13:26] {dino} wow joyg, i'd hate to see what would happen if they lowered guidance
[13:26] {Threei} no kidding
[13:26] {Threei} what a haircut
[13:27] {Threei} IMF'S LIPSKY REPORTEDLY SEES A POSSIBILITY THAT GLOBAL GROWTH MAY MISS THE IMF FORECAST OF 4.1% FOR 2008
[13:27] {Threei} who is growing?
[13:27] {Threei} every country is complaining of recession
[13:33] {laserdave1} RIMM
[13:33] {laserdave1} what a rip
[13:33] {laserdave1} no rhyme or reason
[13:33] {Threei} no
[13:33] {Threei} wasteland of a day
[13:33] {GeoArb} what I am killing it here
[13:34] {Threei} good for you
[13:34] {GeoArb} (killing time )
[13:34] {Threei} ah
[13:34] {GeoArb} heheheh
[13:34] {Threei} first red day since vacation for me
[13:34] {GeoArb} one trade rimm +2
[13:34] {GeoArb} 2 USD I mean
[13:34] {peterg} nice
[13:34] {peterg} I am very advanced; I have no envy
[13:34] {GeoArb} not 2 usd per share
[13:34] {GeoArb} 2 USD period
[13:35] {dino} lol
[13:35] {peterg} got it
[13:36] {GeoArb} i just came back late last night from vegas
[13:37] {GeoArb} took my mom.... and now she wants to buy a house there and watch the bellagio fountain every evening.... (after loosing all her money in bingo_)
[13:38] {Threei} tape those fountains for her
[13:38] {GeoArb} prabably cheaper
[13:38] {Threei} add volcano explosion for good measure
[13:38] {GeoArb} came home n less than 4 hours .... roads are empty
[13:39] {GeoArb} vegas looked empty
[14:00] {Threei} FED'S BEIGE BOOK: US ECONOMIC ACTIVITY HAS BEEN SLOW, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS SOFT
[14:00] {Threei} - Sees moderate price pressures at employment slows, all districts see price pressures
[14:00] {Threei} - Sees export slowdowns in some districts, concentration on purchases of staples
[14:01] {Threei} and market drops on that?
[14:03] {Threei} Ukraine goes right ahead for Georgia fate
[14:04] {Threei} Russian soldiers have already been busy handing out passports to Crimeans to bolster the numbers of Russian "citizens" who might conveniently require Moscow's protection should Russia genuinely fear for the future of its Sevastopol base.
[14:05] {Threei} what the heck is happening today
[14:05] {Threei} do you see these spikes up and down?
[14:06] {dino} it's called the "efficient" market,............not
[14:07] {dino} dji green
[14:07] {Threei} and of course each of those spikes is driven but change in fundamentals
[14:07] {Threei} they are known for changing dramatically in a course of minutes
[14:08] {Threei} but = by
[14:09] {dino} josb
[14:09] {Threei} GM SALES ANALYST: SEEING SIGNS THAT THE US ECONOMY REGAINING TRACTION WITH HOUSING MARKET NEAR A BOTTOM - CONF CALL
[14:14] {Threei} lol, these constant readjustments... summer trading was unusually good,
[14:14] {Threei} now that we are out of it, gotta re-train myself
[14:30] {Threei} ABK is likely ot head for day high
[14:30] {Threei} entry point is toughie
[14:35] {Threei} anyone managed to find an entry?
[14:36] {hawkfan4} .85
[14:36] {Threei} partialling?
[14:37] {Threei} scalping?
[14:37] {Threei} sleeping?
[14:37] {hawkfan4} 1/2 out .98
[14:37] {Threei} OK :)
[14:47] {hawkfan4} b/e stop for the rest, thx
[14:56] {magoo} VAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[14:57] {Threei} yyeeessss?
[14:57] {magoo} wheres the bounce play?
[14:57] {magoo} 3 pm bounce
[14:57] {Threei} don't know about bounce,
[14:58] {Threei} but intyerested in URRE
[14:58] {hawkfan4} 12:58 URRE Uranium Resources: Color on stock strength (3.26 +1.08)
[14:58] {hawkfan4} URRE is trading up over 40% following Bloomberg report that Uranium Resources is sitting on as much as $7 bln worth of the radioactive mineral and may become a takeover target after the shares plunged 83% this year, along with the fuel's price.
[14:58] {Threei} maybe for overnight hold
[14:58] {Threei} ty hawk
[14:58] {hawkfan4} np, forgot to post it earlier
[14:58] {Threei} this move feels like most likely getting continuation tomorrow
[14:58] {Threei} or at least gap
06[14:59] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:59] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:59] {magoo} dave??
[14:59] {magoo} u up
[15:00] {Threei} hmm
[15:00] {magoo} oh no
[15:01] {magoo} RIMM bottomless
[15:01] {Threei} yup
[15:01] {Threei} told you something wasn't right about it
[15:07] {Threei} so far it doesn't look like 3 pm is going to bring bounce
[15:07] {Threei} breakdown is more like it
[15:17] {_csepulve33} hi everyone
[15:17] {Threei} good affternoon
[15:18] {Threei} watching as URRE trades, more and more convinced it has legs
[15:25] {magoo} u in??
[15:25] {Threei} still watching
[15:26] {Threei} see, it's very possibly an overnight hold
[15:26] {Threei} so don't want rto get in too early
[15:26] {Threei} but obviously running a risk to miss
[15:26] {Threei} maybe half lot
[15:26] {Threei} with idea to add another half in case it drops
[15:27] {Threei} OK, will get half lot at .35 it getting hit or on pullback under 3.20
[15:28] {Threei} VVUS interesting strength
[15:28] {Threei} no clear play
[15:31] {dino} mdvn stopped
[15:33] {Threei} CHRYSLER REPORTS AUG SALES -34% TO 110K UNITS
06[15:34] * magoo slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[15:34] {patience} why?
[15:34] {magoo} warming up
[15:35] {Threei} great... VVUS up 20 cents from my comment, and I still haven't found a play on it
[15:36] {dino} fpic
[15:37] {magoo} big up day tomorrow coming
[15:37] {magoo} u heard it here firsdt...realitytrader.com/magoostradamous
06[15:38] * Threei buys everything
[15:39] {laserdave1} market is crazy
[15:40] {Threei} SYK
[15:40] {Threei} US GOVT. IS REPORTEDLY INVESTIGATING COMPANY OVER ALLEGED ILLEGAL PAYMENTS TO DOCTORS
[15:41] {magoo} u don't have to yell:()
[15:43] {dptl} have a good evening all
[15:43] {Threei} take care dp
[15:43] {magoo} bye dp
[15:46] {Threei} no news VVUS
[15:48] {Threei} taking my first half lot URRE
[15:49] {magoo} after bell exit or overnite?
[15:49] {Threei} if moves today, fine
[15:49] {Threei} if not, overnight
[15:49] {magoo} i no like overnite
[15:50] {Threei} neither do I
[15:50] {magoo} u seem to do it often {as i run for cover}
[15:50] {Threei} not very often
[15:50] {Threei} some cases deserve a shot
[15:50] {magoo} u gonna get a shot he he
[15:52] {dino} i could use a shot
[15:54] {Threei} T. BOONE PICKENS: OIL PRICE WILL GO ABOVE $150/BBL THIS YEAR
[15:54] {Threei} sigh
[15:55] {peterg} boonie sez that for a reason.
[15:55] {peterg} his new book out, his windmills--he still loves that oil
[15:56] {peterg} the first billion is the hardest
[15:56] {peterg} title
[15:56] {Threei} poor guy
[15:56] {peterg} yep
[15:58] {Threei} sheesh VVUS :(
06[15:58] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[15:58] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[15:58] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[15:58] {magoo} why?
[15:58] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrrow
[15:58] {magoo} u 2 boss
[15:58] {Threei} why what?
[15:59] {magoo} why slap?
[15:59] {Threei} oh
[15:59] {peterg} why not gnite
[15:59] {Threei} because I believe in reciprocation, and reciprocator's gotta do what reciprocator's gotta do
[15:59] {magoo} oh
[16:00] {dino} ttwo out -.06

Tuesday, September 2, 2008

Sep 02 2008

Session Time: Tue Sep 02 00:00:00 2008

[08:59] {Threei} Good morning
[08:59] {patience} morning vad, RT :)
[09:00] {brian3579} gm all
[09:00] {Threei} patience, brian :)
[09:00] {hawkfan4} good morning
[09:00] {Threei} hawk :)
[09:02] {hawkfan4} oil nicely clobbered
[09:02] {Threei} no kidding
[09:02] {Threei} can we have straight down to $80, no bounces please?
[09:04] {cosmo} i would like the bounce off $15 please
[09:04] {Threei} I don't mind
[09:05] {Threei} but keep it to $15.02 if possible
[09:05] {cosmo} 15 looks firm
[09:05] {Threei} as a top of bounce I mean
[09:05] {cosmo} oh
[09:08] {Onix} good morning all
[09:08] {Threei} Onix :)
[09:08] {Threei} nice kickstart to markets, this opening
[09:08] {esemde} good morning....everyone had a great long weekend .....
[09:08] {Threei} ese :)
[09:08] {esemde} hey vad..
[09:08] {Threei} hard not to, with this beautiful streak of weather
[09:09] {fernp} Good morning all
[09:09] {Threei} fern :)
[09:09] {esemde} fabulous weather in the inner harbour yesterday
[09:09] {Threei} volume and breadth will start returning to the markets gradually
[09:09] {esemde} dp....did you make it over
[09:10] {Threei} so we will have to oppoertunity to finally diversify ourt trading vehicles form the narrow circle of stocks of late
[09:11] {cosmo} 3i... how's the Dragon software going?
[09:11] {Threei} haven't had a chance yet
[09:11] {Threei} partciularly, technology sector was abandoned for entire summer
[09:12] {Threei} and depressed enough to provide nice plays when it gets back in ficus
[09:12] {dptl} good morning all
[09:12] {Threei} dp :)
[09:12] {cosmo} let me know when you do ....if you can do it, i can do it
[09:13] {esemde} dp....did you make it over to the island yesterday...
[09:14] {dino} gm all
[09:14] {Threei} dino :)
[09:15] {peterg} gm all also
[09:15] {Threei} peter :)
[09:15] {dptl} ese:)...no i didnt
[09:16] {esemde} ahhh ...too bad we had a great show at Blues Bash....
[09:16] {esemde} as vad said...the weather was perfect
[09:17] {peterg} here in twin cities tv describes Anarchists in the streets............
[09:17] {peterg} good weather too
[09:18] {dptl} :)...we had no summer here
[09:18] {esemde} anarchists in the streets........
[09:18] {peterg} they shouldn't break windows, just protest.
[09:18] {esemde} what are they protesting peter
[09:18] {peterg} RNC
[09:18] {peterg} repub nat cdonventenion is here
[09:18] {peterg} to nominate mccain
[09:18] {esemde} ah in St Louis.....
[09:19] {peterg} st paul!!!
[09:19] {esemde} mineappolis....st Paul
[09:19] {peterg} yes
[09:19] {peterg} wife being canadian, I understand not knowing states and cities
[09:19] {peterg} anmd presidents, etc.
[09:20] {peterg} and us history especially
[09:20] {peterg} all is forgiven
[09:20] {esemde} tks
[09:20] {Threei} lol
[09:20] {peterg} welcome
[09:21] {tomg} gm all
[09:21] {esemde} tom
[09:22] {Threei} tom :)
[09:23] {cosmo} SIGA
[09:24] {cosmo} # Q2 2008 SIGA Technologies Earnings Release - Before Market OpenCCBN(Tue, Aug 12)
[09:24] {cosmo} oops
[09:25] {cosmo} no news
[09:27] {pita} gm all
[09:27] {cosmo} SIGA 4.20 pre mkt high fwiw
[09:28] {Threei} pita :)
[09:29] {Threei} SIGA had news on Fri
[09:29] {Threei} 08/29/08 02:54pm [SIGA] Update: Reportedly awarded $55M contract from the NIH
[09:30] {cosmo} UAUA takes off
[09:32] {dino} pcln
[09:32] {Threei} UAUA pullback to about 13.20 would be of interest
[09:33] {Threei} if oil drops fast, 13.40
[09:33] {dino} hmmm, 11700 area dji again do we finally break the pattern
[09:34] {Threei} a bit more down UAUA please
[09:34] {Threei} almost there
[09:35] {Threei} USO is still upticking
[09:35] {Threei} don't jump in too soon
[09:35] {Threei} wait for USO to reverse
[09:36] {Threei} in
[09:36] {Threei} stop under .20
[09:38] {Threei} half out +.20
[09:39] {Threei} half out STSI 3.50
[09:40] {Onix} 15c in UAUA ty Vad
[09:40] {Threei} :)
[09:43] {Threei} out balance UAUA
[09:43] {tomg} thanks vad
[09:43] {Threei} welcome
[09:44] {Threei} just in time
[09:45] {Threei} powerful break STSI
[09:46] {Threei} out in full 3.69
[09:47] {Threei} not too shabby from 3.21
[09:47] {hawkfan4} nice job
[09:47] {Threei} ty
[09:48] {Onix} missed STSI
[09:48] {Threei} that was overnight hold Onix
[09:49] {Onix} good for you!
[09:49] {Threei} alerted on Fri woth warning that it was not likely to resolve that day
[09:51] {Threei} Long Setup: NVDA .86 with .79 stop
[09:52] {esemde} double bounce Vad.....
[09:52] {magoo} HEY
[09:52] {Threei} yup
[09:52] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:52] {esemde} do you have that as a scan....
[09:53] {Threei} plus, want to start trying techs
[09:53] {Threei} and risk is negligible on this setup, 7 cents
[09:53] {Threei} no
[09:53] {esemde} true
[09:53] {Threei} just went over former tech names
[09:53] {Threei} to see if any of them has something attractive to try
[09:54] {dino} ouch bucy
[09:54] {Threei} if market ramps up nicely, RMBS will also be interesting on 18 break
[09:55] {esemde} are you looking for any sort of volume indication.....
[09:55] {esemde} support or something
[09:55] {esemde} i've been watching nvda for a week or so now
[09:55] {Threei} just for the right chart configuration
[09:56] {Threei} TASR
[09:56] {Threei} STRENGTH BEING ATTRIBUTED TO RENEWED TAKEOVER CHATTER
[09:56] {esemde} i want to go long around the 13.50 range .....
[09:58] {Threei} TASR actually doesn't look bad
[09:59] {Threei} NVDA invalidated
[10:00] {Threei} *JULY CONSTRUCTION SPENDING (M/M): -0.6 V -0.4%E
[10:00] {Threei} *AUG ISM MANUFACTURING: 49.9 V 50.0E; PRICES PAID: 77 V 82.0E
[10:04] {Threei} Long Setup: COCO 14 if stays above 13.85
[10:04] {Threei} keep an eye on APOL as leading indicator
[10:05] {judijim} good morning everyone
[10:05] {Threei} jj :)
[10:06] {magoo} jj:)
[10:07] {Threei} careful with COCO if you went for it
[10:07] {Threei} let's tighten it to .89
[10:08] {Onix} in COCO @ 14
[10:08] {Threei} APOL needs to bounce from here to provied additional impulse to COCO
[10:09] {Threei} no worky
[10:10] {dino} scanner going red fast fwiw
[10:11] {Onix} stopped COCO
[10:17] {Threei} USO is likely to drop from here
[10:18] {Threei} Long Setup: UAUA .92
[10:18] {Threei} .79 stop
[10:19] {Threei} UAUA 1:1, out
[10:19] {magoo} out .06 TY
[10:19] {Threei} welcome
[10:19] {Threei} maybe capable of more but wat to keep sure wins for now
[10:19] {magoo} yeah, we can reload it
[10:20] {Threei} can reenter, can't re-exit
[10:20] {Threei} vadism of the day
[10:21] {hawkfan4} lol, i like that
[10:22] {Threei} FITCH LOWERS RATINGS ON FNM AND FRE PREFERRED STOCK TO BBB-, AFFIRMS AAA ID RATING AND AA- SUB DEBT RATINGS
[10:22] {Threei} - Reminder: Back on 8/06 Fitch cut FRE's preferred stock to A from A+, placed subordinated debt on watch negative.{FRE FNM XLF}
[10:23] {Threei} I wish I knew what that means lol
[10:23] {Threei} FRE has a look of two-sided setup
[10:23] {Threei} 4.96 long if stays above 4.80;
[10:23] {Onix} notr mortals to know
[10:24] {Threei} 4.79 short if stays below 4.95
[10:24] {dino} means stock no good, bonds will survive
[10:24] {_csepulve33} hi
[10:24] {Threei} good morning csepulve
[10:24] {dino} gm
[10:24] {Threei} move chair closer
[10:24] {Threei} but they mentioned preferred, no common dino
[10:24] {Threei} that's what confuses me
[10:25] {Threei} anyway, let's not overanalyze it
[10:25] {Threei} setu is setup
[10:25] {dino} same meaning, preferred will drop, may survive, may not
[10:25] {Threei} got it, ty
[10:25] {dino} remember, the bonds are the roots of the tree
[10:26] {Threei} certainly
[10:26] {Threei} but they can keep bonds obliogations while killing commons
[10:26] {dino} common = leaves, preferred = limbs
[10:26] {_csepulve33} hi, I am on a trial in this chat, can anyone tell me how it works?
[10:26] {Threei} simple... observe the calls and comments
[10:26] {Threei} trade those you feel safe with
[10:27] {dino} its a jungle
[10:27] {Threei} don't hesitate to ask questions
[10:27] {dino} apol stalking
[10:27] {_csepulve33} Do you trade only stocks?
[10:27] {Threei} we exited UAUA just in time, eh?
[10:27] {Threei} mostly, yes
[10:27] {Threei} ETFs sometimes
[10:28] {_csepulve33} eminis?
[10:28] {Threei} not per se,
[10:28] {Threei} a lot of comments can be applied to e-minis
[10:28] {Threei} but mostly we use them as leading indicators
[10:28] {dino} 100% stocks for me
[10:28] {_csepulve33} Can I ask why do you dont trade the eminis?
[10:29] {Threei} one can't trade everything on earth... we like to diversify
[10:29] {Threei} and stocks provide wider range of opportunities
[10:29] {_csepulve33} ahh that ok, I ask simple because people think futures are more risky and fast than stocks
[10:30] {Threei} in a way, yes
[10:30] {Threei} let's tighten FRE setup
[10:30] {Threei} 4.93 long if stays above 4.85
[10:31] {_csepulve33} Where is Vad? he is in this room?
[10:31] {Threei} a bit less confidence, trade-off is tighter stop
[10:31] {Threei} that would be me
[10:31] {Threei} for a short side of this setup I still prefer 4.79 as a trigger
[10:31] {fernp} out ABK +.15 (easy money)
[10:32] {Threei} gj
[10:32] {Threei} magoo, have a look at UAUA
[10:32] {magoo} see it
[10:32] {Threei} aren't you glad we kept our expectations to a scalp
[10:32] {dino} apol sm s .25, stop .63
[10:32] {magoo} still seems to be the way 6o go vad
[10:32] {magoo} to
[10:33] {Threei} yeah, we are just starting fall trading
[10:33] {Threei} chan ge doesn't occur in one day
[10:33] {magoo} chan ge? oriental saying?
[10:33] {Threei} change
[10:33] {Threei} with hiccup
[10:33] {Onix} lol
[10:37] {Threei} Long Setup: LNCR .60 half lot
[10:37] {Threei} if stays above .50
[10:38] {_csepulve33} LNCR on 1 minute time frame?
[10:38] {Threei} yes
[10:40] {Threei} oil bounce keeps a lid on the market for now
[10:40] {magoo} fre short
[10:40] {Threei} profit taking should come soon though, and is likely to be severe
[10:41] {_csepulve33} are you trying to buy breakout at 33.57 on LNCR?
[10:41] {Threei} stop .93 for FRE
[10:41] {Threei} it got invalidated by losing .50 support, csepulve
[10:41] {Threei} not interested anymore
[10:42] {_csepulve33} ok
[10:43] {dino} v sm s rimm .05 wide
[10:46] {Threei} Attention: FRE stop to 4.85
[10:46] {Threei} don't want to run into double bottom
[10:49] {dino} apol bstop to .61
[10:49] {dino} expect slip
[10:49] {Threei} most likely scenario: pne more bounce USO, no new high, and down
[10:49] {Threei} missed UAUA entry, hoping for pullback
[10:50] {Threei} as close to .50 as possible
[10:50] {dino} rimm nstop to b/e
[10:51] {dino} rimm stopped reverse slip .98, +.07
[10:51] {_csepulve33} FREE starts to run
[10:52] {_csepulve33} FRE sorry
[10:54] {Threei} here comes USO bounce
[10:56] {dino} apol bstop to .29
[10:56] {dino} out/cover +.96
[10:56] {Threei} wtg
[10:56] {dino} ty
[10:56] {dino} darn rimm would've worked too
[10:57] {Threei} out FRE
[10:58] {Threei} UAUA not pulling back enough
[10:58] {Threei} .68 is a bottom of a pullback
[10:59] {esemde} first day of work early staff meeting.........see you all tomorrow.....
[10:59] {Threei} take care ese
[10:59] {esemde} see ya vad
[11:01] {dino} bye es
[11:01] {magoo} c u es
[11:04] {Threei} stsi
[11:04] {Threei} thing is still holding
[11:05] {Threei} 3.70 break is probably one more scalp opportunity on it
[11:05] {Threei} if holding above 3.55
[11:07] {dino} v sm ma l .15
[11:09] {cosmo} NVDA needs to hold 12.65 imo
[11:09] {Threei} if USO breaks .30 backing off longs for now
[11:10] {Threei} need it to lose 88 while not going above 88.30
[11:11] {Threei} if that happens, grab UAUA with stop under .80
[11:14] {dino} cedc death again
[11:18] {cosmo} NVDA tests lod
[11:18] {Chaeron} GM all\
[11:19] {dino} gm
[11:19] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:22] {Threei} well USO?
[11:22] {Threei} make up your mind
[11:22] {hawkfan4} fakes left, goes right
[11:25] {Threei} don't like this spike... can't tell if it's last gasp or real strength
[11:26] {dino} gild
[11:32] {dino} cedc sm l .40 stop .07
[11:38] {dino} iclr spike
[11:42] {Threei} SAPE??
[11:44] {hawkfan4} nothing here
[11:44] {Threei} last week news
[11:44] {dino} cedc not moving, tighten to .23
[11:47] {dino} ced stopped slipped to .17 ave -.23
[11:48] {peterg} out cedc -.11
[11:48] {dino} ttgt
[11:49] {dino} good stop peter, sorry bud
[11:49] {peterg} no prob, tks for advices
[11:50] {dino} gild sm l .63 stop .27
[11:50] {peterg} glid
[11:51] {peterg} wrong screen
[11:52] {Threei} STSI is till valid
[11:55] {pita} later all - good luck, day job calls
[11:55] {Chaeron} bye pita
[11:55] {magoo} c u pita
[11:55] {dino} cya pita
[11:56] {Threei} take care pita
[11:57] {Threei} well STSI... if you can take .75 I will be very impressed
[11:58] {Threei} I am impressed
[12:06] {dino} pcln wants 100
[12:08] {Threei} we are in lunch time, take STSI profit as you see fit
[12:08] {hawkfan4} nice one, thx vad
[12:08] {Threei} welcome
[12:16] {dino} one more spike ttgt imo
[12:23] {dino} sm s ttgt .03 stop .39
[12:28] {magoo} this market BLOWS
[12:36] {Threei} watching RIMM for bounce
[12:37] {Threei} quick dive under 120 should be it
[12:38] {dino} waiting at 119.20
[12:42] {Threei} doesn't want to lose 120
[12:43] {Chaeron} there you go
[12:43] {Threei} OK
[12:47] {Threei} one more leg down is needed
[12:47] {Threei} still no mesningful strength
[12:47] {Threei} dino's idea of entry looks right
[12:49] {Threei} STSI is probably exhausting its move
[12:49] {Threei} quick spike to .95 aand drop all the way back to where spike started feels like last legs
[12:52] {dino} i don't know maybe lower
[12:54] {magoo} i have apptmt..will be leaving shortly
[12:54] {dptl} got to go...have a good rest of the day ,see ya tomorrow
[12:54] {Threei} take care dp
[12:54] {dino} that was it
[12:55] {dino} take care you two
[13:00] {Threei} SOLR
[13:00] {Threei} SINGS $173M CONTRACT
[13:02] {Threei} T BOONE PICKENS EXPECTS OPEC TO TRIM PRODUCTION AT SEPT 9 MEETING AND DEFEND $100/BARREL LEVEL - CNBC COMMENTS
[13:02] {Threei} - Pickens says oversupply in natural gas could lead it to drop to a $6 handle{
[13:07] {dino} beat drop
[13:17] {dino} beat sm l .25 stop .87
[13:21] {Threei} how about that drop STSI
[13:22] {dino} hmmm
[13:27] {Threei} I don't think it's worth entry
06[13:28] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:28] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:29] {Threei} just following up my earlier comment on STSI exhausting its move
[13:34] {Threei} what's with SANM
[13:35] {Threei} last news about a month ago
[13:35] {dino} xtex
[13:35] {dino} tyin
[13:36] {dino} thin
[13:43] {Threei} President Nicolas Sarkozy's key electoral promise to allow the French to "work more to earn more" has hit a major snag: most have no desire to put in extra hours to raise their wages, a poll has found.
[13:43] {Threei} really...
[13:43] {Threei} thank you for letting me work but I don;'t want to
[13:45] {dino} roflol
[13:48] {dino} ttgt bstop to .62
[13:51] {dino} wow rimm
[13:51] {dino} wants 115 maybe
[13:52] {Threei} market drop takes RIMM with it...
[13:52] {dino} gild stopped -.36
[13:54] {dino} more like rimm leading market
[13:57] {dino} ttgt bstop to .52
[14:09] {dino} to .43
[14:12] {dino} patience, feeling 70 dji points down for a 300 pt range day
[14:12] {patience} you should see the tsx for a down day
[14:13] {dino} how much?
[14:13] {patience} -345 points
[14:14] {dino} in any case, talking heads gave reason oil down market up huge earlier, what do they say now, as i'm not listening
[14:14] {dptl} i am back:)
[14:14] {Threei} welcome back dp :)
[14:14] {patience} me neither dino, i'm just waiting for a 'v' shaped bounce
[14:15] {dptl} ty:)
[14:15] {Threei} that's one remarkable reversal
[14:15] {dino} same idea patience, wondering if the 11300 area comes into play once more
[14:15] {patience} seems so
[14:17] {dino} dji neg.
[14:18] {dino} ttgt to .34
[14:19] {patience} hey dino, where is magoosky
[14:20] {dino} slipped stopped/cov .35, +.68
[14:21] {dino} beat stop to .65
[14:22] {dino} he left early, his son messed his shoulder up racing, dr. appt.
[14:23] {patience} ouch
[14:26] {dino} beat to .89
[14:26] {Threei} RIMM break of 118 is worth a try long
[14:27] {Threei} under .80 invalidated
[14:28] {dino} oh man beat slipped out aver .85 +.60
[14:36] {dino} rimm sm l .20, stop .79
[14:38] {dino} stopped
[14:38] {Threei} quite a powerful selling today
[14:38] {patience} tsx down -394
[14:39] {dino} indeed about -250
[14:40] {dino} ouch tsx
[14:54] {dino} ok here's the 300 range
[14:56] {Threei} time to bounce soon
[14:56] {Threei} probably another leg down still
[14:57] {Threei} but oberall, end of selling for today should be close
[14:57] {dino} around -100 imo
[14:58] {dino} rimm bottom, sm l .00 trig
[15:02] {dino} l gild .00, stop .73
[15:08] {Threei} upward momo starts
[15:16] {Threei} what do you want from RIMM dino? 118.50?
[15:16] {dino} wanted at least .60
[15:17] {dino} ideally blow thru .60, tighten to that and let it ride.
[15:17] {dino} my gut says we finish green
[15:17] {Threei} I concur
[15:17] {patience} first trading day of the month, fund managers repositioning
[15:17] {patience} gotta get some decent recents for third quarter
[15:18] {patience} returns
[15:18] {patience} yeesh
[15:18] {dino} starting bad imo
[15:19] {dino} .60 is tough walkl
[15:19] {dino} wall
[15:20] {dino} ok tighten
[15:20] {dino} out +.60
[15:21] {dino} too tight
[15:25] {dino} gild out .24 +.24
[15:29] {_csepulve33} bye everyone.....thanks for everything see you tomorrow
[15:29] {hawkfan4} take care
[15:31] {Threei} here come my 118.50 RIMM
[15:31] {Threei} (hopefully)
[15:32] {dino} way to hold
[15:32] {Threei} was very much confident in reversal
[15:32] {Threei} [15:08] {Threei} upward momo starts
[15:34] {Threei} out .41
[15:34] {Threei} 9 cents shy
[15:34] {Threei} ty dino
[15:36] {dino} sm l .gs .50
[15:37] {dino} :)
[15:52] {dino} out gs .89, +.39
[15:52] {fernp} gj
[15:52] {Threei} wtg
[15:53] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[15:53] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:53] {hawkfan4} thx vad
[15:53] {dino} ty
[15:53] {fernp} bye
[15:53] {dino} yeah, calling it a day here too, decent one, just strange
[15:54] {Threei} a bit, yeah
[15:54] {Threei} transition period
[15:54] {peterg} transition to.......the future!
[15:54] {Threei} will take a few for market to get back from vacation mode in working mode
[15:54] {peterg} some vacation
[15:54] {peterg} not
[15:55] {dptl} have a good evening all
[15:55] {peterg} so long all til tmo
[15:55] {dino} take care all.
[15:56] {peterg} and to all a good night (santa claus?)

Friday, August 29, 2008

Aug 29 2008

Session Time: Fri Aug 29 00:00:00 2008
[08:10] {Threei} (FR) SENIOR FRENCH DIPLOMAT SAYS THERE ARE NO SANCTIONS CURRENTLY PLANNED AGAINST RUSSIA AT MONDAY'S EU LEADER SUMMIT
[08:11] {Threei} (RU) RUSSIAN ENERGY MINISTER SAYS RUSSIA IS COMMITTED TO MAINTAIN OIL SUPPLY TO EUROPEAN CUSTOMERS
[08:11] {Threei} - German says it believes that Russia will honor oil supply contracts
[08:11] {Threei} - French official says EU-Russia trade meeting may be postponed{USD EUR/RUB RSX
[08:14] {Threei} OIL: ACCORDING TO THE TELEGRAPH'S AMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD, FEARS ARE MOUNTING THAT RUSSIA MAY RESTRICT OIL DELIVERIES TO WESTERN EUROPE OVER COMING DAYS
[08:14] {Threei} - The article notes that any move by Russia could be in response to the threat of EU sanctions and NATO naval actions in the Black Sea.
[08:14] {Threei} - Reports have begun to circulate in Moscow that Russian oil companies are under orders from the Kremlin to prepare for a supply cut to Germany and Poland through the Druzhba pipeline.
[08:14] {Threei} - It is also believed that executives from Lukoil have been put on weekend alert.
[08:14] {Threei} - According to a high-level business source to the Telegraph, they have been told to be ready to cut off supplies as soon as Monday
[08:53] {Onix} gm all
[08:53] {Threei} Onix :)
[08:58] {magoo} morn
[08:58] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:01] {magoo} maybe USO long trades today vad
[09:02] {Threei} no idea
[09:02] {Threei} it looked like long yesterday too
[09:02] {Threei} and ended in a big dump
[09:04] {magoo} seems like more neg headlines on oil tho today
[09:08] {Threei} yes...
[09:08] {Threei} it's just that lately all of those headlines are being used to dump into,
[09:08] {Threei} and drops are so sudden and vioelnt
[09:08] {Threei} no way one could read them
[09:08] {magoo} agrreee
[09:08] {magoo} just think we should keep eye on it
[09:08] {dptl} good morning all
[09:09] {magoo} 99 possible today if decides to go imo
[09:09] {Threei} dp :)
[09:09] {Threei} we keep an eye on it every day :)
[09:10] {fernp} Good morning all
[09:10] {Threei} fern :)
[09:12] {peterg} gm
[09:12] {Threei} peter :)
[09:18] {dino} gm all
[09:18] {Threei} dino :)
[09:23] {Threei} [12:23] {Threei} (RU) RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO EU: RUSSIA IS "TOO CIVILIZED" TO CUT OFF ENERGY SUPPLIES TO THE EU
[09:23] {Threei} [12:24] {Threei} let's remember this 'too civilized"
[09:23] {Threei} [12:24] {Threei} my prediction is, come winter we will have a few occasions to return to this sentence
[09:23] {Threei} The Telegraph newspaper reported that Russia may cut off oil flow to Western Europe over the coming days, in response to the threat of E.U. sanctions and NATO naval actions in the Black Sea. "Reports have begun to circulate in Moscow that Russian oil companies are under orders from the Kremlin to prepare for a supply cut to Germany and Poland through the Druzhba (Friendship) pipeline," wrote Ambrose Evans-Pritchard. "It is believed that executives from lead-producer LUKoil have been put on weekend alert."
[09:24] {Threei} and winter isn't even here yet
[09:26] {cosmo} SIGM should hold 16 ..imo
[09:27] {cosmo} oops
[09:28] {Onix} yes, with Russia on the one end and Gustav pushing at the other end, that could push oil up fast
[09:31] {dino} hmmm dji back to 11300 time soon
[09:32] {dino} sm l chk .50
[09:32] {Threei} Short Setup: CLNE .80 if stays under 17
[09:36] {Threei} FNM short .39
[09:36] {Threei} .51 stop
[09:38] {dino} sm wide xto l .00
[09:39] {Threei} CLNE stopped
[09:39] {Threei} FNM cover half
[09:39] {Threei} over 1;1
[09:39] {Threei} scalpers take profit
[09:39] {magoo} sh aapl sm here
[09:39] {magoo} .35
[09:40] {Threei} 1:2 FNM
[09:40] {Threei} out in full
[09:40] {magoo} stop .59
[09:42] {magoo} stopped
[09:44] {Onix} ty Vad, i got 17c in FNM
[09:44] {Threei} welcome
[09:44] {Threei} REPORTEDLY SENATOR MCCAIN'S VP RUNNING MATE MAY BE ALASKA GOV SARAH PALIN - CNBC UNCONFIRMED REPORT
[09:44] {Threei} - Palin is 44, pro-life and in her first term as Governor of Alaska
[09:45] {Threei} AUG CHICAGO PURCHASING MANAGER'S INDEX: 57.9 V 50.0E
[09:47] {Threei} Long Setup: FRE 4.95 if stays above 4.85
[09:47] {Threei} if loses it looking for pullback entry
[09:48] {Threei} Long Setup: FNM .41 if stays above .30
[09:48] {magoo} in fnm
[09:48] {magoo} in fre
[09:48] {Roman} buy ALL
[09:49] {Threei} ALL - no such symbol
[09:51] {Roman} STSI highs
[09:52] {Threei} wow
[09:52] {Threei} sneaky
[09:53] {Threei} come on NQ
[09:53] {Threei} spike
[09:53] {magoo} wheres are stops.85 and .30?
[09:54] {Threei} .84 and .29
[09:55] {Threei} AUG FINAL UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 63 V 62.0E
[09:56] {Threei} no worky
[09:56] {esemde} god morning
[09:56] {Threei} ese :)
[09:56] {Onix} stopped FRE
[09:56] {peterg} ditto
[09:56] {fernp} stopped
[09:57] {Roman} long LDK
[09:57] {Roman} small
[09:57] {dino} v sm risky l skf .00
[09:58] {Roman} SOL radar
[09:59] {Roman} CLNE
[09:59] {Roman} long
[09:59] {Threei} 'long vphm 15 half lot if stays above .85
[09:59] {Threei} Long Setup: VPHM 15 half lot if stays above .85
[10:00] {Roman} in CLNE .17.25
[10:02] {Roman} long COIN off 6
[10:02] {Roman} of 5.00
[10:04] {dino} lod's
[10:07] {Threei} VPHM invalidated for now
[10:07] {Threei} may be interesting again later
[10:08] {judijim} good morning all
[10:08] {Threei} jj :)
[10:11] {Roman} long SEED slow
[10:11] {Roman} 5.07 area
[10:17] {Roman} SOLR & CSUN looking good
[10:26] {dino} out skf 118.10, +1.10
[10:26] {Threei} wtg
[10:26] {dino} ty
[10:30] {dino} bpop
[10:30] {Threei} 07:33am [BPOP] Announces substantial sale of loan and servicing assets of its U.S. mortgage unit to various Goldman Sachs affiliates
[10:30] {dino} they may be a survivor
[10:31] {cosmo} gee.. what country?
[10:31] {Threei} Long Setup: ABK 7.01 trigger if holding above .90
[10:35] {Threei} invalidated
[10:39] {dino} v sm skf l .00
[10:45] {dino} stop to .61
[10:46] {dino} out +.61
[10:47] {fernp} gj
[10:47] {dino} v sm cme l .70
[10:47] {dino} ty fern
[10:50] {Threei} if USO breaks .50, looking to short UAUA
[10:51] {magoo} helluva fall aapl rimm here
[10:52] {magoo} thinking bounce SCALP
[10:52] {magoo} not in
[10:52] {magoo} any read vad?
[10:53] {Threei} feels like more downside
[10:54] {dino} out cme 336.90, +1.20
[10:54] {magoo} dino naioling big dollars today
[10:55] {dino} small size magoo, but not bad
[10:56] {magoo} l aapl here small
[10:56] {magoo} .45
[10:59] {dino} rimm blood
[10:59] {peterg} yeah, got a little on me
[11:02] {dino} wipe it off man
[11:03] {dino} dllr
[11:08] {magoo} l rimm small .31
[11:10] {Threei} oil's doing same thing as yesterday magoo
[11:10] {magoo} yes, obviouse trade no work
[11:10] {magoo} as in long
[11:12] {magoo} kickin aapl
[11:14] {magoo} vad lil help kickin aapl/rimm..i tired'
[11:14] {Threei} sure
[11:16] {Threei} good enough?
[11:16] {Threei} why didn't you ask earlier
[11:16] {magoo} out .82 YES TY
[11:16] {Threei} always
[11:17] {Threei} well... sometimes
[11:18] {magoo} out rimm .45 nice footwork boss
[11:18] {Threei} glad to oblige
[11:18] {Threei} I was bored enough to start happily kicking things
[11:18] {Threei} as ese says... "I hit things for a living"
[11:25] {dino} v sm l ma .50
[11:26] {dino} no no no, wrong fill cx that. v sm s skf .60
[11:26] {dino} forgot order.
[11:33] {Threei} MER bounce scalp candidate
[11:34] {Threei} 28.01 long
[11:34] {Threei} if holding above .95
[11:34] {magoo} in .01
[11:41] {dino} cov skf .50 +.10, dk on it
[11:42] {dino} and now it works
[11:42] {Threei} 1:2 MER
[11:42] {Threei} feel free to take profit
[11:42] {magoo} out ty
[11:43] {dino} cme v sm l .60
[11:46] {dino} gj
[11:56] {dino} v sm ma l .80
[12:01] {Threei} IMCL
[12:01] {Threei} PHASE 3 BMS-099 LUNG CANCER STUDY SECONDARY ENDPOINT UPDATE: DID NOT REACH STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE
[12:04] {dino} old study from june
[12:12] {dptl} just want to check again........market closed on monday?
[12:12] {Threei} yes :)
[12:12] {dptl} ty...(what the heck am i gonna do then?) :)
[12:15] {esemde} you could over to the island and watch my band in the blues bash....were on 4:30 on monday
[12:16] {dino} this range cracks me up, hit 11700 lose 200
[12:16] {dptl} hmm...ty ese...may be an idia:)
[12:17] {dptl} idea that is...spelling
[12:18] {dino} cool es, i'll book a flight
[12:22] {Threei} MBI long with stop under .40
[12:22] {magoo} in .57
[12:24] {dptl} big offer at .60 on arca
[12:24] {magoo} prob roman
[12:24] {dptl} :)
[12:25] {Threei} going to slice through it like knife through the jellyfish
[12:26] {fernp} out FNM +.12 and out KEY +.10
[12:26] {Threei} nice scalping footwork fern
[12:28] {Threei} {MBI} what offer? who is ARCA?
[12:29] {dptl} :) Roman got filled
[12:31] {Threei} out MBI .80
[12:31] {Threei} that was easy
[12:31] {magoo} ill hit the biutton
[12:32] {dino} gj
[12:32] {fernp} out .84 TY Vad
[12:33] {Threei} welcome
[12:33] {magoo} ty
[12:33] {magoo} .79 here
[12:36] {Threei} ABK vertical
[12:36] {dptl} ok,got to go....have a good long weekend all...see ya tuesday :)
[12:36] {Threei} take care dp, have a good one
[12:36] {magoo} u 2 dp
[12:36] {magoo} slacker lol
[12:37] {dino} dllr
[12:37] {dptl} lol
[12:37] {dino} u2 dp
[12:42] {Threei} looking for pullback entry MBI
[12:42] {Threei} and ABK
[12:43] {magoo} post entry price so i do not chase ya
[12:44] {Threei} in .52
[12:44] {Threei} .45 stop
[12:45] {magoo} .55
[12:45] {magoo} i know
[12:47] {Threei} out +.12
06[12:47] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:47] {Threei} you are unhappy about what?
[12:48] {Threei} it went to +.12 for you too
[12:49] {magoo} unhappy with my entry and still in..so sl;apped u in frustration
[12:50] {Threei} MBI strangely deep pullback
[12:50] {Threei} not sure about this one
[12:51] {magoo} lil mkt poewr uop here
[12:51] {magoo} suigh..typing
[12:56] {dino} out cme 339.70, +2.10
[12:57] {fernp} excellent dino
[12:57] {dino} ma stop to b/e
[12:57] {magoo} THAT DOES ITTTTTTTTTTTTT
06[12:57] * magoo slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[12:58] {dino} ty fern, just lucky
[12:58] {magoo} OOUT ABK .71..+ 16 he he
[12:58] {fernp} out LEH +.10
[12:58] {dino} trying to get out of here soon
[12:59] {Threei} suddenly day turns out not that bad eh
06[12:59] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:59] {Threei} hmm'
06[13:00] * laserdave1 slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[13:00] {Threei} okay...
06[13:00] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:00] {dino} yeah, and i wanted to cut the lawn
06[13:00] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:00] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:00] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:00] {laserdave1} laserdave1 kicks Threei in but with steel toed army boot
[13:01] {Threei} that was rude
[13:01] {Threei} that's my weapon of choice
[13:01] {laserdave1} sorry was quick today
06[13:01] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:02] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
06[13:02] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[13:03] {magoo} [12:51] {magoo} lil mkt poewr uop here
[13:03] {magoo} [12:52] {magoo} suigh..typing
[13:09] {laserdave1} mags u have such a way with words
[13:09] {laserdave1} brings tears to my eyes
[13:09] {Threei} he has his way with words
[13:22] {Threei} USO is about to go red
[13:25] {dino} crazy
[13:26] {dino} so nobody is hedging this storm
[13:26] {Threei} snetiment has changed in oil
[13:26] {Threei} good (for it) news do not send price upward much anymore
[13:27] {Threei} aabsence of news sends it down
[13:27] {Threei} bad news crash it
[13:28] {dino} somethings' changed
[13:29] {dino} just wish magoo would change his shirt once in awhile
[13:31] {Threei} back in ABK
[13:31] {Threei} .61
[13:31] {Threei} .55 stop
[13:32] {magoo} in.61
[13:33] {dino} out ma at .50, +.70
[13:33] {Threei} out
[13:33] {dino} on that note, calling it a week. decent day, and i'm keeping it
[13:35] {dino} take care all
[13:35] {Threei} take care dino, fanstatic job
[13:35] {magoo} grrrrrrrrrr
[13:36] {dino} ty, had a bit of luck
[13:36] {fernp} bye dino
[13:55] {Threei} STSI maybe prepares another surprise
[14:01] {Threei} I guess 3.20 break worth a try with stop under 3
[14:02] {Threei} may lead into over-weekend hold
[14:02] {Threei} server hiccup?
[14:10] {Threei} NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER (NHC) UPDATE: GUSTAV WINDS INCREASE TO 70MPH, TRAVELING WEST NORTHWEST AT 11MPH
[14:29] {Threei} STSI is trying
[14:31] {peterg} gettn dumped
[14:31] {Threei} yeah
[14:31] {Threei} something with server
[14:31] {peterg} k
[14:40] {magoo} am i here
06[14:40] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[14:40] {Threei} yup
[14:40] {Threei} looks like
[14:41] {magoo} was bumopped
[14:41] {Threei} I am being slapped therefore I am
[14:41] {magoo} if 3i slaps me in woods..am i really slapped
[14:41] {Threei} good question
[14:43] {Threei} so far MBI pullbacks were bought
06[14:45] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[14:47] {Threei} in .91
[14:47] {Threei} gotta try it
[14:47] {Threei} stop .84
[14:49] {Threei} half out 16
[14:57] {Threei} SIGA
[14:57] {Threei} UPDATE: AWARDED $55M CONTRACT FROM THE NIH
[14:57] {Threei} - Note co expected to report $2M in revenues next quarter
[14:58] {Threei} out balance 16.09
06[14:59] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[15:03] {fernp} have a nice long weekend all. Bye,
[15:04] {Threei} take care fern
[15:05] {magoo} u 2 femp
[15:06] {magoo} vads short RIMM"?
[15:07] {Threei} nah
[15:07] {magoo} it looks good
[15:15] {Threei} how about SIGA?
[15:15] {Threei} and no, RIMMM short does not look good :)
06[15:16] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[15:26] {Threei} what was that for?
[15:27] {magoo} rimm
[15:27] {magoo} it worked
[15:28] {Threei} after it went up? sure:)
[15:33] {Threei} SIGA is still moving
[15:51] {peterg} well guys, calling it a day. See you on Tuesday!
[15:51] {magoo} bye :)
[15:52] {Threei} take care peter
[15:52] {Threei} thank you guys, have a great relaxing long weekend
[15:52] {Threei} see you on Tuesday
[15:52] {magoo} u too vad:)

Thursday, August 28, 2008

Aug 28 00:00:01 2008

Session Time: Thu Aug 28 00:00:01 2008

[08:43] {Threei} 08/27/08 05:45pm [SEED] Reports Q3 $0.38 (+63% y/y), R$71.5M (+7.73% y/y)
[08:55] {cosmo} SEED: .... 5.69 spike high last night
[08:56] {Threei} and CLNE nice gap... too bad didn't pull back deep enough for me to take it overnight
[08:56] {cosmo} fyi
[09:00] {GeoArb} gm
[09:01] {dino} gm all
[09:04] {Threei} Geo, dino :)
[09:05] {Threei} brian, look dcc please
[09:07] {patience} a rainy good morning RT :)
[09:07] {Onix} gm all
[09:08] {Threei} patience, onix :)
[09:17] {fernp} Good morning all
[09:19] {magoo} mornink comrades
[09:19] {Threei} fern, magoo :)
[09:20] {esemde} ladies and gentlemen.......I bring you good tidings from............ME
[09:20] {Threei} ese :)
[09:21] {esemde} morning Vad
[09:24] {dino} lol es
[09:26] {esemde} cable CHEK 6 news victoria....6 oclock news......gonna be on
[09:26] {patience} i'll watch it ese :)
[09:26] {magoo} vad, with hurricane gustav heading for oil platforms..u think possibly USO long mover today?
[09:27] {esemde} i think it's today....or is it tomorow....can't remember what Gordie Tupper said
[09:27] {magoo} as in multi points
[09:27] {esemde} the local media guy
[09:27] {Threei} everything's possible...
[09:27] {dino} not much of interest for me yet
[09:27] {Threei} Gustav is the whole idea of USO move yesterday and today
[09:28] {Threei} this is highly liquid situation, it changes with every new forecast...
[09:28] {Threei} or observation
[09:29] {Threei} so, to say anything in advance would be just a guess
[09:29] {dino} say it isn't so
[09:30] {Threei}
Long Setup:
0,3 CLNE
[09:30] {Threei} ugh
[09:30] {Threei} try to bid just above 17
[09:31] {Threei} with stop under 16.80
[09:31] {esemde} ENER...
[09:31] {Threei} my idea was to grab a pullback, not to chase CLNE after the bounce
[09:32] {Threei} it jumped off 17 faster than I could type, even without numbers
[09:32] {Threei} let's wait for new consolidation and break of 17.25 if consolidation's tight enough
[09:35] {Threei} bidding 16.95 or taking break of 17.10
[09:37] {Onix} in CLNE @ 17.01
[09:37] {Threei} good entry
[09:38] {dino} sm l ilmn .70, stop .37
[09:39] {dino} stopped, that sucked
[09:41] {GeoArb} WHATS YOUR ENTRY VAD?
[09:41] {GeoArb} oops
[09:41] {Threei} 17.25 is pre-market resistance for CLNE
[09:41] {Threei} .10 and .12 Geo
[09:41] {GeoArb} ok
[09:41] {GeoArb} my average is .11 too
[09:41] {magoo} me too .11
[09:41] {Threei} onix beat us
[09:42] {GeoArb} that was really good
[09:42] {Threei} yup
[09:42] {Threei} I missed it with all the typing
[09:42] {dino} sm l ener .41
[09:42] {dino} wide risky
[09:42] {Threei} let's break .25 CLNR
[09:42] {Threei} onix, with your entry I'd par out here
[09:43] {Onix} ty
[09:43] {Threei} brrrreak
[09:44] {Threei} half out
[09:44] {Threei} spike's a bit too sharp
[09:44] {GeoArb} i confess i was half out at 25 :)
[09:44] {GeoArb} it was 13 cents
[09:45] {GeoArb} and i wanted to bank some at res
[09:45] {Threei} makes sense
[09:46] {GeoArb} this was a beauti
[09:46] {GeoArb} cleansed yesterday for me
[09:46] {GeoArb} i am glad i stopped
[09:47] {Threei} stop to 16.95 for the balance who is still holding
[09:47] {esemde} long FMCN
[09:47] {esemde} 31.96
[09:48] {esemde} 3/4
[09:48] {Threei} CPST
[09:48] {Threei} ANNOUNCES SHIPMENT OF ITS FIRST C200 PRODUCTION UNIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE
[09:48] {Threei} - Originally scheduled for shipment in late September, Capstone was able to deliver this first unit earlier than planned.
[09:48] {Threei} - This first production unit is shipping to Integrated Building Technologies, the company's distributor in Italy.
[09:48] {Threei} - The system will be installed in a wastewater treatment facility in Biella, Italy, and will operate on methane gas generated from the digesters at the facility.
[09:49] {magoo} look eNER vaD AS BOUNCER
[09:49] {esemde} bugger stopped FMCN
[09:49] {GeoArb} vads a bouncer?
[09:49] {Threei} lol
[09:50] {esemde} what kinda jump down wat that....
[09:51] {GeoArb} anyone still in clne?
[09:51] {esemde} -,21
[09:51] {Threei} half here Geo
[09:51] {Onix} yes
[09:52] {GeoArb} apart from the guru and the better student :)
[09:53] {GeoArb} there is a saying my dad used to quote.....
[09:53] {GeoArb} "guru gud chela chini"
[09:53] {GeoArb} gud-} molasses (sweet)
[09:53] {GeoArb} chini -} refined sugar
[09:54] {GeoArb} oh yeah chela-} student
[09:55] {GeoArb} the reference here... being onix getting better fills now :)
[09:57] {dino} out ener .49 +1.08
[09:57] {Onix} it is so great to be doing a few things right for a change
[09:57] {Threei} even better to realize suddenly, it's not a rocket science
[09:57] {patience} very nice dino
[09:58] {Threei} wtg dino
[09:58] {dino} ty patience wild one
[09:58] {dino} too soon, magoo out doing me on it
[09:59] {GeoArb} sniff... no more philosophizing
[10:00] {GeoArb} CLNE a wedge?
[10:01] {Threei} trying to form it
[10:01] {dino} over my head
[10:01] {Threei} if holding .30 and breaking .50, will trail stop to under .20
[10:01] {GeoArb} i am just pleased as punch to pull .20 on one lot
[10:01] {GeoArb} TY vad flat
[10:01] {Threei} .30 is more logical but the stock is a bit volatile, gotta pad it a little wider
[10:01] {dino} celg
[10:02] {dino} gj geo
[10:04] {GeoArb} wow celg dino
[10:04] {dino} celg sm l .10
[10:04] {dino} careful
[10:05] {GeoArb} no news
[10:05] {GeoArb} hmm
[10:06] {GeoArb} looks like clnee wants up
[10:07] {magoo} oiut .09 ENER..i dunno plus couple points
[10:07] {dino} wtg magoo!
[10:07] {GeoArb} wooo
[10:07] {magoo} waiting .67 CLNE
[10:07] {GeoArb} magoo why 67?
[10:07] {dino} ener sm l .25 wild
[10:08] {GeoArb} ok got it
[10:08] {magoo} breathing area
[10:10] {GeoArb} amazing magoo
[10:10] {magoo} OUT ty boss
[10:10] {Threei} out 1/4 more ..69
[10:10] {Threei} welcome mags
[10:10] {magoo} see thats my first exit from entry
[10:10] {magoo} mnow out full..if pulls ill reload
[10:10] {GeoArb} what was entry?
[10:11] {magoo} vad,pullup my entry please
[10:11] {Threei} offering last 1/4 at 16.95
[10:11] {GeoArb} sheesh (geo puts nose to grindstone)
[10:11] {Threei} [09:41] {magoo} me too .11
[10:11] {peterg} morning; i see i have missed a lot of fun
[10:11] {magoo} TY bossasaurasrex
[10:12] {GeoArb} i reentered for the 40 to 59 move
[10:12] {Threei} 17.95 that is
[10:12] {Threei} hi peter
[10:12] {Onix} all out of CLNE @ .74 ... ty Vad!
[10:12] {GeoArb} but nothing comared to you monsteres !!!!
[10:12] {Threei} welcome sir
[10:12] {GeoArb} if done right this probably made the day !!
[10:14] {dino} celg stop to .49
[10:14] {dino} out +.39
[10:17] {Threei} stop to under .30 btw
[10:17] {GeoArb} vads a swing trader now
[10:17] {dino} out ener .65 +.40
[10:19] {esemde} oh sure now fmcn.........hmmmmmmwhat did i do wrong on that one
[10:19] {dino} thats a toughie fmcn
[10:19] {magoo} jesus..dino just brought me a beer
[10:20] {GeoArb} ?????
[10:20] {esemde} that drop down cost me- .21
[10:20] {esemde} and now it explodes
[10:20] {esemde} thats the type of thing in this business that will drive you crazy
[10:21] {dino} f' it es, all part of the game
[10:21] {esemde} yes....for sure
[10:21] {magoo} to be in this bus u must be somewhat crazy in first place
[10:21] {Threei} stop to under .40
[10:21] {esemde} definately
[10:22] {Threei} hmm
[10:22] {dino} traders expect to have losses. thats the way it is
[10:22] {Threei} TV says we had an eathaquake
[10:22] {GeoArb} wot dino?
[10:22] {Threei} did I sleep through it?
[10:22] {GeoArb} no one told me that
[10:22] {Threei} ah, too far to feel on the ground
[10:24] {dino} geo; good traders take chances w/good expectations, but they expect to lose regularly
[10:24] {GeoArb} hehehe dino
[10:24] {dino} it's not about being right, it's about trading right
[10:24] {GeoArb} was being facetious
[10:24] {dino} no joke man
[10:24] {GeoArb} ahm.... i agree
[10:25] {dino} ok
[10:25] {magoo} vad, ener news please
[10:25] {Threei} 08/28/08 07:01am
[10:25] {Threei} [ENER] Energy Conversion Devices Inc Reports Q4 $0.24 v $0.16e, R $82.4M v $77.5Me
[10:25] {Threei} -Guides Q1 Rev $95-98M v $87.9Me, Gross Margin 31%
[10:25] {Threei} -Guides FY09 Rev $445-485M v $443.1Me
[10:26] {magoo} all good to me
[10:26] {magoo} didnt hold bounce well
[10:26] {GeoArb} and it goes down......
[10:26] {judijim} good morning all
[10:26] {Threei} jj :)
[10:27] {dino} ener maybe re-test lod
[10:27] {magoo} granted..vads post is the extent of my tireless research on ENER
[10:28] {dino} sm l .40
[10:28] {GeoArb} scary spread
[10:28] {Threei} time for some violence?
[10:29] {Onix} yes!
06[10:29] * Threei kicks CLNE in the rear with force of hurricane Gustav multipled by centuries of human intelligence
[10:29] {dino} too soon
[10:31] {magoo} magoo smacks it on hread..needs pullbk FIRST to reenter
[10:31] {GeoArb} why?
[10:31] {magoo} not in
[10:31] {GeoArb} consolidation not good enuff? :)
[10:31] {magoo} want in
[10:32] {GeoArb} there
[10:35] {Threei} either adding intelligence to simple kick is a mistake, or CLNE is confused my mixed signals between me and magoo
[10:36] {Threei} *EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: + 102 BCF V +80 TO +85 BCF RANGE OF ESTIMATES
[10:36] {Threei} {UNG}
[10:36] {Threei} we are awash in natural gas
[10:36] {Threei} and oil
[10:38] {Threei} out CLNE last portion
[10:39] {Roman}
21 UAUA?
[10:40] {Roman}
21 i am in small 10.60
[10:40] {Threei} wow
[10:40] {Threei} why that high?
[10:40] {Roman}
21 buy high sell higher
[10:41] {GeoArb} :)
[10:41] {Threei} I don't know... this thing is oil dependent, went up quite a bit
[10:41] {GeoArb} see you later guys
[10:41] {Threei} take care Geo
[10:42] {magoo} bye geo
[10:42] {Threei} and I don't see sufficient consolidation under .60 to warrant something like JBE
[10:42] {Roman}
21 take care Geo
[10:43] {Roman}
21 FRE
[10:43] {Roman}
21 lets roll
[10:44] {Threei} .26 trigger?
[10:44] {dino} cya geo
[10:44] {Roman}
21 i think so vad
[10:44] {Threei} UAUA works
[10:45] {Roman}
21 ABK on radar too
[10:45] {Threei} I would be out of it here faster than drunk sailor is out of saloon upon finding out he has no money to pay for drinks
[10:46] {Roman}
21 :)
[10:46] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE SAYS STRONG Q2 GDP DATA SHOWS THE RESILIENCY OF US ECONOMY
[10:46] {Roman}
21 check STSI
[10:46] {Roman}
21 baster is moving higher
[10:48] {dino} i prefer to call it "creative accounting"
[10:51] {Roman}
21 in FRE 1/2
[11:01] {Threei} ese, did you ever get in CPSL?
[11:03] {Threei} I don't see any fresh news on STSI
[11:05] {Threei} btw... do we send a thank you card to Pickens?
[11:05] {dino} indeed
[11:06] {dino} v sm cme s .15
[11:07] {magoo} new entry area vad CLNE?
[11:07] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE SPOKESPERSON: CURRENTLY EVALUATING PUTTING AN END TO US-RUSSIA NUCLEAR AGREEMENT
[11:07] {Threei} oh great
[11:08] {Threei} not sure yet mags
[11:09] {Threei} kind of 50/50 here
[11:10] {Threei} bounce for a scalp looks too obvious off 17
[11:10] {Threei} I suspect it's going to break down
[11:10] {Threei} shake out those who go for obvious
[11:10] {Threei} then jump back up
[11:11] {Threei} look for something like .80 - .90 range for entry
[11:11] {Threei} there you go
[11:11] {Threei} half lot
[11:11] {Threei} in
[11:11] {Threei} .80, stop under .70
[11:11] {Threei} just a scalp
[11:14] {Threei} I guess I oversat it
[11:14] {Threei} wanted a spike back over 17
[11:14] {Threei} either double bottom here or stop
[11:17] {Threei} yawn
[11:17] {Threei} do something CLNE
[11:18] {Threei} you all asleep?
[11:18] {patience} yes
[11:18] {Threei} okay
[11:18] {Threei} I'll stop talk loud
[11:19] {Threei} (whispering) how about that forecast of 17 breakdown?
[11:19] {Threei} out
[11:20] {magoo} stopped clne
[11:20] {magoo} regret my smackdwn now
[11:25] {Threei} USO is snapback time probably
[11:25] {Threei} watching UAUA for short
[11:26] {Threei} no technicals for the play, just need sharp USO green bar
[11:32] {Threei} getting ready
[11:32] {Threei} if this is double bottom for USO, UAUA should be done
[11:32] {Threei} didn't reach its previous high as USO made new low
[11:36] {Threei} no double bottom so far
[11:38] {dino} .
[11:39] {Threei} good point
[11:40] {Threei} did they cancel hurricane?
[11:40] {Threei} look how UAUA is unable to move up on USO drops anymore
[11:40] {magoo} nothing makes sense anymore
[11:41] {Threei} just need reversal on that slimy environemntally unfriendly liquid
[11:43] {Threei} ok, .75 is closest resistance UAUA for stop placement
[11:43] {Threei} short here
[11:44] {Threei} .65 in
[11:44] {Threei} gotta try it
[11:44] {Threei} shhesh... what's killing oil?
[11:44] {Threei} out UAUA
[11:45] {dino} what happened, hurricane fizzle out
[11:45] {Threei} I guess
[11:45] {Threei} all I see is
[11:45] {Threei} (VZ) VENEZUELAN FIN MIN: PROJECTS 2008 GDP GROWTH AT 6.7%, SPECULATION DRIVING OIL PRICES
[11:45] {Threei} {USO}
[11:45] {Threei} and that's bs
[11:46] {Threei} who cares what that guy thinks
[11:47] {hawkfan4} man, i just covered my oil future short at 116.20 just b4 the giant drop. it's been that kind of week
[11:48] {Threei} that's unreadable hawk
[11:48] {Threei} don't feel bad
[11:48] {Threei} there is no way to see this coming
[11:48] {hawkfan4} i know, but the extra 4k would've been nice :) i thought it was reversing
[11:52] {Threei} what a reversal CLNE
[11:52] {Threei} why didn't we short it lol
[11:52] {Threei} just kidding... never saw clean short setup
[11:52] {Threei} other than 17 break but that was very iffy
[11:52] {dino} stopped cme -1.40 100
[11:52] {Threei} looks readable in retrospect only
[11:53] {Threei} at the moment it was much more like shakout with immediate snapback
[11:53] {esemde} L SUSQ .65 1/2 lot
[11:54] {Roman}
21 still in FRE
[11:54] {Roman}
21 len LEN
[11:54] {Roman}
21 12.68
[11:54] {Roman}
21 long LEN
[11:57] {Roman}
21 buy all ECONOMY IS GREAT AGAIN
[11:58] {Chaeron} long ALL at .09 (teasing) Good morning everyone
[11:58] {esemde} CCCCCHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
[11:59] {Chaeron} heya Ese :)
[12:00] {Roman}
21 out UAUA
[12:00] {Roman}
21 +.58
[12:00] {dino} gj
[12:00] {esemde} mostly watching.....got burnt FMCN...am cautious
[12:00] {Threei} chaeron :)
[12:00] {Threei} good one Roman
[12:01] {Chaeron} Hi Threei
[12:02] {Threei} DOE: WE ARE READY TO TAP THE SPR IF GUSTAV CAUSES A SEVERE SUPPLY DISRUPTION
[12:02] {Threei} {USO}
[12:02] {dino} sm l chk .40
[12:04] {dino} cybx l .20, stop .99
[12:05] {Threei} OK, another attempt UAUA
[12:06] {Threei} .99 short with stop abpve 11.10
[12:14] {esemde} anybody else sensing that buying on pullbacks is the way to go in this market?
[12:15] {peterg} sounds right
[12:15] {Threei} very much so
[12:15] {Threei} UAUA 1:1, cover half; scalpers take profit
[12:20] {Threei} stop to above 11 for the balance
[12:22] {Roman}
21 alright housing situation is fixed....time to start flipping again......dino + magoo, would you please so kind and give me a discount on one of your seminars "flip for living" or "get rich flipping real estate" any on of the topics is fine
[12:22] {Threei} done UAUA
[12:23] {magoo} i took scalpers exit vad, ty
[12:23] {Threei} good move
[12:23] {Threei} lunch period, things lose momentum
[12:23] {Roman}
21 out FRE -.05
[12:25] {Threei} thinking of CLNE short
[12:25] {Threei} nice bounce into resistance area
[12:26] {peterg} didja:
[12:26] {peterg} ?
[12:27] {dino} lol rfr.
[12:27] {dino} but seriously, i am looking in brunswick county, nc
[12:27] {dino} condos
[12:27] {Threei} peter... I am affraid I need translation
[12:27] {peterg} short clnes?
[12:28] {peterg} clne
[12:28] {Threei} not yet
[12:28] {Threei} thought of .70 breakdown but it dropped too fast
[12:28] {dino} 11700 again dji
[12:29] {dino} 400-11700
[12:29] {dino} 400/11700=3.4%, getting close
[12:32] {dino} vad, remember my monday 11,300 call? we missed by 30 pts, now back to 11700. almost time to drop again
[12:33] {Threei} 30 points in nothing in terms of these numbers... I say you nailed it to the letter
[12:33] {dino} ty
[12:39] {esemde} Out SUSQ.....68 +,03 not goin anywhere this one
[12:40] {Threei} I guess I missed CLNE short
[12:41] {Threei} felt it was right time but precise setup just didn't present itself
[12:41] {peterg} o well--good eye
[12:41] {Threei} it may be but I better keep it open
[12:41] {peterg} :)
[12:43] {Threei} unpatriotic play
[12:44] {Threei} USO long on 93.50 break
[12:44] {Threei} if stays above 93.20
[12:51] {Threei} no follow through
[12:51] {Threei} maybe we need to preserve morning profits and stop trying to squeeze juice out of stone
[12:51] {magoo} too late
[12:52] {magoo} already neg here
[12:52] {esemde} I'll admit that i think i've been trying to do that
[12:52] {peterg} left uso +.11 tks
[12:52] {esemde} ever since i've gotten back from Ontario my trading has bee spoty at best
[12:53] {Threei} stop to .35 USO
[12:53] {esemde} was on a roll before i left but now.....hmmmmmmmm
[12:53] {patience} you know how to fix that don't you ese....
[12:53] {esemde} how
[12:53] {dino} go away again
[12:53] {patience} you need to go to vad's for shish kabob and half dozen shots of vodka with dinner
[12:53] {esemde} that would do it
[12:54] {patience} very much so
[12:54] {esemde} have to go over trades and notes etc.....
[12:54] {dino} vad would've been proud, orange stolie was flowing freely at my house saturday
[12:54] {esemde} see what the difference is
[12:55] {esemde} until then i'm gone for the day.....see tomorow
[12:55] {dino} amr s .12, stop .41
[12:55] {Threei} we are consistently profitable over last two weeks
[12:55] {Threei} boring but in the plus
[12:56] {dino} y
[12:57] {peterg} remind es to change music selection for successful trading
[12:57] {peterg} Dire Straits good today
[12:58] {dino} good choice, we are on classic buzz-alternative
[12:58] {Roman}
21 out LEN
[12:59] {Threei} Tom Waits works for me any day
[13:01] {cosmo} Tom must be a loyal employee
[13:01] {Threei} lol
[13:02] {cosmo} k...back too sleep...
[13:03] {Threei} USO dump
[13:04] {dino} lol
[13:31] {Threei} magoo
[13:31] {Threei} what is it we haven't done yet today, and without which our day is not complete?
06[13:31] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:31] {Threei} chaeron, same question goes for you too
[13:32] {Threei} magoo got it right
[13:32] {dino} chk stop to .84
[13:34] {dino} out chk .94 +.54
[13:34] {Threei} FINL worked for us yesterday... wasn't confidcent enough today to go for another break on it
[13:34] {Threei} a bit too narrow today
[13:36] {dino} celg wants double bottom imo
06[13:39] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:39] {magoo} there u go
[13:39] {Chaeron} sorry I was a bit late on that
[13:40] {Threei} you were so late, I already foergot what we were talking about
[13:40] {dino} celg l .11, stop lod
[13:53] {Threei} lars, look dcc please
[13:58] {dino} tighten celg doesn't feel right, to .98
[14:02] {Threei} just one day of torture left
[14:02] {Threei} then things will start picking up
[14:02] {Threei} or down
[14:03] {dino} stopped
[14:04] {Threei} polish vodka recovered a bit today dino
[14:04] {Threei} I assume on all that buying you did for your party?
[14:04] {Threei} volume is quite low though
[14:04] {Threei} maybe forming a flag for the next show to drop
[14:07] {dino} cybx fast fall
[14:08] {dino} lol
[14:09] {dino} i am 0/1 on cybx, but its taunting me
[14:10] {dino} waiting sm at .30
[14:17] {magoo} LASER, dcc when u can
[14:18] {dino} sm l .50 cybx wide
[14:28] {Threei} market needs CPR
[14:29] {dino} ?holding well
[14:29] {Threei} not moving :})
[14:29] {dino} ahh
[14:30] {dino} sort of how i feel
[14:34] {dino} wabc
[14:49] {Threei} looking at USO daily,
[14:49] {Threei} I can't imagine such harsh selloffs for something that is going to go up
[14:49] {Threei} IMO, unless something happens, this thing is bound to continue daowntrend
[14:50] {Threei} and it's hard to imagine what that "something" could be
[14:50] {Threei} Gerogia war didn't propel it,
[14:51] {Threei} neither did unrest in Pakistan,
[14:51] {Threei} hurricanes is bs, IMO
[14:52] {Threei} (as an reason for oil to go up that is)
[14:52] {dino} well today it was bs
[14:55] {magoo} vad, power upward into bell iyo?
[14:56] {Threei} truly no idea
[14:56] {Threei} Zoom Airlines sincerely regrets to advise its customers that it has suspended operations with effect from 18:00 UTC on Thursday 28 August.
[14:56] {Threei} All flights scheduled to depart from have been cancelled and Zoom's aircraft have been grounded.
[14:56] {Threei} another one bites the dust
[14:58] {Threei} I mean, it's just a lame excuse, dino... hurricanes were there always
[14:58] {Threei} oil never reacted on them really until this whole price runup started
[14:59] {dino} i agree
[14:59] {dino} and today not acting on them either
[14:59] {fernp} TSN is a valid dbi, Vad?
[15:00] {Threei} chart's right, just a bit narrow
[15:00] {fernp} ty
[15:11] {fernp} out TSN +.11
[15:11] {Threei} good one
[15:11] {fernp} :)
[15:19] {fernp} see you all tomorrow.
[15:20] {Threei} take care fern
[15:20] {dino} cya fernp
[15:35] {Threei}
Short Setup:
0,4 CLNE .50 breakdown if stays below .65
[15:35] {dino} cov amr .04 +.07
[15:35] {dino} 08
[15:37] {dino} ok gotta hop, baseball game. out cybx .40 -.10 lousy entry
[15:37] {Threei} take care dino
[15:44] {Threei} LADENBURG'S BOVE REITERATES LEH COULD BE BOUGHT ANYTIME NOW; RECOMMENDS COMPANY AS A BUY DESPITE ITS NEGATIVE Q3 OUTLOOK
[15:44] {Threei} - Reiterates he believes its likely a hostile takeover will occur
[15:48] {Threei} CLNE invalidated
[15:50] {Threei} 19 US companies are banned from food suppied to Russia for 'safety reasons"
[15:53] {peterg} bye guys cu you tmo
[15:54] {Threei} Ok guys
[15:54] {Threei} than k you all
[15:54] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow

Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Aug 27 2008

Session Time: Wed Aug 27 00:00:00 2008

[07:50] {Threei} SOLF
[07:50] {Threei} REPORTS Q2 $0.23 V $0.22E, R $197.7 V $182.2ME
[07:50] {Threei} - Gross Margin 13.7% v 15.8% q/q sequentially
[07:51] {Threei} ROYL
[07:51] {Threei} INITIATES NATURAL GAS PRODUCTION IN DAKOTA FORMATION AT FIELD IN UTAH
[07:51] {Threei} - The new zone is a Dakota B sand that flowed dry natural gas at rates up to 2.0M cu ft per day from this interval. The well will be hooked up to the pipeline for immediate sales at 1.0M cu ft. per day.
[07:51] {Threei} - This is the second producing horizon in this well. The first zone completed was the Morrison Brushy Basin sand that is currently behind a temporary plug and will be added later.
[07:51] {Threei} - Additional potential in the Moon Canyon #2 well remains in the untested Mancos shale.
[08:13] {Threei} SOLF
[08:13] {Threei} SEES RELIEF IN Q4 AND ANTICIPATES IMPROVED GROSS MARGINS IN H2, "BUT PROBABLY NOT UNTIL Q4" - CONF CALL
[08:19] {Threei} (US) NJ Governor Corzine: The US should get rid of the hybrid structure of the GSEs and back them with taxpayer funds
[08:19] {Threei} - When asked about a possible government takeover of the two GSEs, Corzine said that Paulson may be forced to make that move.
[08:24] {Threei} FNM
[08:24] {Threei} PRICE TARGET LOWERED TO $5 FROM $9 AT MERRILL; MAINTAINS UNDERPERFORM RATING
[08:27] {Threei} PREVIEW: JULY DURABLE GOODS ORDERS AND DURABLES EX TRANSPORTATION DUE AT 8:30 AM
[08:27] {Threei} - Consensus expectations:
[08:27] {Threei} - Durable goods orders 0.0% v 0.8% prior
[08:27] {Threei} - Durables ex transportation -0.7%e v 2% prior
[08:30] {Threei} JULY DURABLE GOODS ORDERS: 1.3% V 0.0%E;
[08:30] {Threei} EX-TRANSPORTATION: 0.7% V -0.7%E
[08:30] {Threei} - prior Durables revised from 0.8% to 1.3%
[08:30] {Threei} - prior Ex Transportation revised from 2.0% to 2.4%
[08:45] {magoo} morn
[08:47] {Threei} morning mags
[08:48] {magoo} so solf headss south
[08:48] {Threei} margins are getting squeezed
[08:49] {peterg} gm
[08:49] {Threei} peter :)
[08:52] {Onix} Good morning all
[08:53] {Threei} Onix :)
[09:01] {fernp} Good morning all
[09:01] {Threei} fern :)
[09:01] {Threei} yesterday was the least volatility/volume since May
[09:02] {Threei} no wonder we had hard time trying not to snore
[09:03] {Threei} oil inventory numbers today at 10:35
[09:11] {esemde} good morning...Vad Raven Brian cos dino dp fern hawk jmb magoo onix patience peter tom and trader sam.....
[09:11] {Threei} morning ese
[09:11] {esemde} hows that for hellos
[09:11] {Threei} wow
[09:11] {dino} gm all
[09:12] {Threei} dino :)
[09:14] {dino} a mouthful es
[09:14] {dino} amr to seel
[09:16] {dptl} good morning all
[09:17] {dino} to sell that was, starting already
[09:17] {Threei} dp :)
[09:18] {patience} morning ese and the rest of RT :)
[09:18] {_traderSAM} gm :)
[09:18] {Threei} FNM finds bidders again
[09:19] {Threei} patience, tradersam :)
[09:19] {esemde} gm and welcome to the board trader sam
[09:19] {_traderSAM} thx
[09:19] {esemde} so SOLF beats kind of and gets swacked Vad...
[09:20] {tomg} gm all
[09:20] {Threei} tom :)
[09:20] {esemde} tom
[09:20] {tomg} hi ese
[09:20] {Threei} ese, margins are suffering for SOLF
[09:21] {esemde} ahhhhhh
[09:21] {Threei} scroll up, I posted couple items on it
[09:21] {GeoArb} gm
[09:22] {esemde} geo
[09:22] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:22] {Threei} UAUA got beaten nicely
[09:23] {esemde} dino.....would SOLF be something you'd go after
[09:25] {cosmo} SOLR pre mkt high = 13.30 fwiw
[09:25] {dino} not yet, would like to see 2.50 or more off
[09:26] {dino} ok, time for some alternative rock
[09:27] {esemde} is that a general rule you have
[09:27] {cosmo} fake granite?
[09:27] {Threei} lol'
[09:27] {cosmo} :)
[09:27] {esemde} for most stocks or does it depend on market cap etc etc
[09:28] {Threei} FED'S LOCKHART: HOUSING PRICES WILL CONTINUE DECLINING, PERHAPS 15% MORE, CONCERNED ABOUT 'IMPORTED' INFLATION - Q&A
[09:28] {Threei} - Notes that the policy differences between central banks can create an element of pressure between currencies, yet the policies of the Fed and ECB are both 'sound'
[09:28] {Threei} imported inflation?
[09:28] {Threei} I thought we exported it
[09:28] {dino} yes es, really need to see a few bucks
[09:29] {Onix} yes, are we not the King of Inflation"?
[09:29] {judijim} good morning all
[09:29] {Threei} jj :)
[09:29] {dino} salvation thru inflation
[09:29] {GeoArb} that would be zimbabwe
[09:30] {Threei}
Long Setup:
0,3 FNM 6.21
[09:30] {Threei} ugh, late
[09:30] {dino} lol
[09:31] {Threei} try to get pullback
[09:31] {Threei} 6.10 support for stop placement
[09:31] {dino} old gary north book
[09:34] {esemde} bstop short AMLN 23.49 1/2
[09:36] {dino} amr sm s .00
[09:36] {dino} stop hod
[09:36] {esemde} short AMLN covered .31
[09:37] {esemde} short .48 covered .31 +.17
[09:42] {Threei} watching RMBS for long entry
[09:42] {esemde} PTEN on pullback
[09:43] {esemde} around .30
[09:43] {dino} dltr
[09:43] {Threei} .85 long if stays above .75
[09:44] {Threei} invalidated
[09:49] {Threei} (FR) FRENCH PRES SARKOZY: RUSSIA NEEDS TO WITHDRAW TROOPS FROM THE GEORGIAN REGION IMMEDIATELY
[09:49] {Threei} Russia: uhhu
[09:49] {GeoArb} i am sure now they will
[09:50] {magoo} yeah, french opinion holds alot of weight
[09:50] {Threei} especially after their yesterday headline
[09:50] {GeoArb} please withdraw cuz i am fearfull?
[09:50] {Threei} 14:44] {Threei} (FR) FRANCE FOREIGN MIN KOUCHNER: WE FEAR WAR, DO NOT WANT ONE
[09:52] {peterg} i.e., don't make me hurt you
[09:52] {GeoArb} you mean dont make you hurt me?
[09:53] {Threei}
Long Setup:
0,3 CELL .51 if stays above .45
[09:53] {Threei} just a scalp
[09:53] {Threei} invalidated
[09:54] {peterg} also true
[09:54] {peterg} dgeo
[09:54] {peterg} geo
[09:55] {esemde} PTEN pullback to deep.....invalidated for me
[09:56] {Threei} RMBS was still worth it I guess
[09:56] {esemde} RMBS....waiting for pull back
[09:57] {esemde} if it goes through 18 Vad is should go a little
[09:57] {Threei} probably... serious resistance to break
[09:58] {Threei} in more determined market I would be all over such break
[09:58] {esemde} damn......missed it...didn't get the order in fast enough
[09:58] {Threei} don't chase
[09:58] {Threei} pullback or no play
[09:59] {esemde} indeed
[09:59] {Threei} CLNE
[09:59] {Threei} this thing looks seriously determined
[10:00] {esemde} i'll say
[10:01] {Threei} if you believe in Pickens... half lot long .25
[10:02] {Threei} stop under .10 or under 16, both are valid
[10:03] {dino} amr stopped .95 +.05 not moving
[10:03] {Onix} in CLNE @ .25
[10:03] {Threei} CSUN?
[10:04] {Threei} what's up with that dog
[10:04] {Threei} CLNE, I won't be surprised to see it at 17
[10:05] {Threei} volatility is a problem on it thouigh
[10:05] {Threei} can breathe hard as magoo says
[10:05] {magoo} ill stiop it
[10:05] {magoo} long .30
[10:05] {esemde} AMLN still heading down...gotta be gettingg close to your territory dino
[10:05] {Threei} lol
[10:05] {Threei} only combined power of you and chaeron can stop Pickens, magoo
[10:06] {magoo} oh..well hes not in yet..
[10:06] {Threei} that's your chance
[10:06] {magoo} my only hope
06[10:06] * Threei kicks CLNE in the rear... move fast while chaeron isn't here!
[10:07] {Threei} hey, that was a good kick
[10:07] {magoo} keep doing it
[10:07] {magoo} hurry..i hear chaer
[10:07] {dino} es, problem is deaths associated w/it, could just die itself
[10:07] {dptl} +.20 clne ty
[10:07] {Threei} dp :)
[10:07] {dino} hitting 2 year lows
[10:07] {dino} gj dp
[10:07] {esemde} gotcha.....
[10:08] {dino} lets find crazy moves w/no news
[10:08] {Threei} great spot on a short side ese
[10:08] {dino} patience my friend
[10:08] {Threei} AMLN that is
[10:09] {Threei} guys, CLNE is both good mover and hard breather
[10:09] {Threei} control your risk and manage the trade
[10:09] {Threei} partial out
[10:09] {Threei} protect half of profit
[10:09] {Threei} unless you are hard core scalper that is
[10:09] {Threei} then you are out here
[10:11] {Onix} ty Vad, got .24 on my 100 shares in CLNE
[10:12] {Threei} :)
[10:12] {Threei} got any leftovers?
[10:12] {peterg} learning limit orders, chased CLNE up & missed the ride. Sniff.
[10:13] {Threei} how do you route your limit entry?
[10:13] {Threei} at the offer price of the moment?
[10:13] {peterg} looks like island
[10:13] {Threei} right, I mean price
[10:14] {peterg} i hit a price on the level two chart; it appears in the limit price box
[10:14] {Threei} OK, adjust it a little bit:
[10:14] {peterg} i try to buy on the cheap
[10:14] {Threei} if your entry is .25
[10:14] {Threei} set a limit .27 - .28
[10:14] {Threei} and hit buy when .25 starts scrolling
[10:15] {Threei} this is a good comprmise between market order that could get you in too high
[10:15] {Threei} and too tight limit that can miss a play altogether
[10:15] {dino} chtt
[10:16] {GeoArb} or depending on your broker.... yo migh have a smartorder
[10:16] {dptl} and watch time and sales window peter:)
[10:16] {dino} sh 8t can't borrow
[10:16] {GeoArb} you can choose a 3 cent leeway
[10:16] {Threei} couple cents is usually immaterial
[10:16] {Threei} and if there are enough shares at your .25 you'll get it anyway
[10:16] {Threei} also,
[10:17] {Threei} make sure you have Route Out checked
[10:17] {Threei} this will garantee that your ISLD hits all others too
[10:17] {peterg} thks team
[10:18] {peterg} where is Route Out check pls?
[10:19] {Threei} right click on Level 2,
[10:19] {Threei} settings window will pop up,
[10:19] {peterg} got it
[10:19] {Threei} look in the right column, roughly middle section
[10:19] {Onix} NVDA Vad?
[10:19] {Threei} check all boxes
[10:20] {Threei} no idea Onix
[10:20] {Threei} NVDA ceased to be that perky player we knew and loved
[10:20] {peterg} isld/arca trac data des nyfs nte all checked thks
[10:20] {Onix} ok ty
[10:20] {Threei} don't forget to save layout also peter
[10:20] {Threei} or you will have to do it tomorrow again :)
[10:20] {peterg} rt tks
[10:21] {peterg} they were already checked
[10:21] {Threei} cool
[10:22] {esemde} missed entry CTXS
[10:22] {esemde} tryed for .65 didn't get it....
[10:24] {dino} cpla sm l .15 ave
[10:25] {dino} wynn sm l .49 wide wicked one
[10:26] {Threei} CLNE next leg
[10:27] {esemde} CPSL vad.....really looks good on the daily...you took this the other day if I recall correctly
[10:28] {Threei} pulled right back into support
[10:28] {Threei} held 5 yesterday and today
[10:28] {Onix} in CLNE @ .51
[10:29] {Threei} I guess can be qualified as pullback buy with stop under 5, but don't expect quick resolution from it
[10:29] {Threei} not likely to be a day trade
[10:29] {esemde} yup....am considering a swing trade on this one.....
[10:30] {esemde} CPSL.....classic swing trade
[10:35] {Threei} DOE CRUDE: -3.5M V +1ME;
[10:35] {Threei} GASOLINE: -1.2M V -2.ME;
[10:35] {Threei} DISTILLATES: +57K V +600KE; UTILIZATION: 87.3% V 85.9%E
[10:36] {dptl} was it that slow monday and tuesday too?
[10:36] {Threei} very
[10:36] {Threei} *API Inventory:
[10:36] {Threei} - Crude Inventories: -3.5M
[10:36] {Threei} - Gasoline: -2.1M
[10:36] {Threei} - Distillate: +730K
[10:38] {dptl} hmmm.....thinking to go for a nap:)
[10:38] {Threei} slacker
[10:38] {dptl} :)
[10:39] {Threei} stay here and suffer with us!
[10:39] {GeoArb} sheesh.....have a great day guys.... I might show up next week
[10:39] {Threei} sigh
[10:39] {dino} you done geo?
[10:39] {esemde} AAUK nu eye....and no come back agin....
[10:39] {GeoArb} actually negative....
[10:39] {GeoArb} loosing discipline
[10:39] {esemde} and ye no come back agin
[10:39] {GeoArb} might as well packup
[10:40] {GeoArb} thanks guys......
[10:40] {esemde} see ya geo
[10:40] {esemde} take care ...been there
[10:41] {dino} vsnt
[10:41] {dino} yake care geo
[10:42] {dino} sm l vsnt .23 gappy
[10:43] {dptl} sirf...slow..but something is up i think
[10:48] {esemde} looks like it's hit rock bottom dp
[10:49] {esemde} buy out candidate....
[10:49] {dptl} may be........but see...i started to think wich is not a good sign :)
[10:49] {Threei} lol
[10:50] {dptl} :) gonna go get some cofee
[10:50] {magoo} get me a cup please
[10:50] {Threei} and make sure it's Irish
[10:50] {dptl} right away sir:)
[10:51] {magoo} oh yeah
[10:51] {Threei} 'cause for magoo coffee is just an excuse
[10:51] {esemde} ouch.....
[10:52] {magoo} vad, remember when u and i were drinkin them in vegas
[10:52] {Threei} hmmm
[10:52] {Threei} my memory must be fading
[10:53] {Threei} (RU) RUSSIAN GOVT SPOKESPERSON: THERE IS CURRENTLY NO THREAT OF A NEW COLD WAR
[10:54] {dino} good, cause we only like the "hot" ones
[10:56] {dino} no sense of humor i see
[10:57] {esemde} L DTV .43
[10:57] {magoo} boone letting me down here
[10:58] {esemde} full lot....lots of liquidity
[10:58] {esemde} stop .30
[10:58] {Threei} you haven't exited any magoo?
[10:59] {magoo} nah..was waiting .74..it hit .62
[10:59] {Threei} come on...
[10:59] {magoo} what..thats valid exit
[10:59] {Threei} why not partial
[11:00] {magoo} only had /have half
[11:00] {magoo} no money in a partial
[11:05] {magoo} better than a stop i guess..sigh
[11:07] {Threei} that's what I thought
[11:11] {dino} cedc plunges again....hmmmmm
[11:15] {Threei} MOODY'S ANALYSTS DISCUSS FRE, FNM - CONF CALL
[11:15] {Threei} {FNM}
[11:17] {dino} cedc sm l .35, stop .97
[11:17] {Threei} FNM CAPITAL IS OVERLY EXPENSIVE
[11:18] {Threei} ese, look dcc please
[11:20] {Threei} FNM SELLING $150M 4.15% BONDS DUE 2011
[11:27] {dino} they need about 150 billion
[11:29] {Threei} if FRE/FNM capital is overly expensive - expect mortgage rates to go up
[11:29] {Threei} AMLN is bottomless
[11:32] {dino} cedcstopped
[11:34] {dino} wants 18 imo
[11:34] {dino} amln
[11:43] {Threei}
Long Setup:
0,3 FINL .80 trigger
[11:43] {Threei} .69 stop
[11:45] {dino} cme sm l .50
[11:46] {dino} v sm
[11:47] {Onix} in FINL @ .82
[11:49] {esemde} OUT DTV....-.07.....don't have time to finish watching it
[11:51] {Threei} time for violence I think...
06[11:51] * Threei kicks FINL in the rear with heavy duty army boots
[11:51] {dino} syno
[11:51] {Onix} wtg!
[11:52] {Threei}
Long Setup:
0,3 FNM .31 if stays above .25
[11:55] {dino} sort of bio blood day
[11:55] {Onix} in FNM @ .31
[11:58] {dptl} offering .94 finl
[11:59] {Threei} FUNL 1:1
[11:59] {Threei} FINL
[12:00] {dptl} out +.12 ty
[12:00] {Threei} :)
[12:00] {fernp} out here too. TY
[12:00] {Threei} welcome
[12:12] {Onix} got .16 in FINL ty Vad
[12:12] {Threei} :)
[12:12] {Threei} 11:29] {Threei} AMLN is bottomless
[12:13] {Threei} no kidding
[12:13] {magoo} i think dino called 18
[12:14] {Threei} quite possible
[12:15] {Threei} good to see even in this swamp we still find winning ones
[12:15] {Threei} but sheesh, this week is so dead
[12:15] {Threei} no wonder though
[12:15] {Threei} last week of august, before long weekend
[12:16] {magoo} remember when we were in vegas this week last year
[12:16] {Threei} we were?
[12:16] {dino} out wynn .88, +1.40
[12:17] {dptl} is that labor day coming?
[12:17] {Threei} you must have poured too much of that Stoly stuff mags... my memory is erazed
[12:17] {Threei} yes dp
[12:18] {Threei} believe it or not, NQ really looks like breaking out
[12:18] {dino} out cme +3.20
[12:18] {dptl} oh 1st monday...market closed?
[12:18] {Threei} yup
[12:19] {dino} no takers huh?
[12:19] {dino} breaking out? you should see magoo's face
[12:20] {dino} you guys are tough, no laughs, no gj's
[12:20] {dptl} coma..lol...gj Dino
[12:20] {Threei} it just takes us longer to digest dino
[12:20] {fernp} gj dino :)
[12:21] {dino} thx dp, fern. for a slow day two beauties
[12:21] {Onix} wtg dino!
[12:21] {dino} :)
[12:21] {Threei} dunno about magoo's face but NQ broke
[12:23] {magoo} shit forgot i still had clne
[12:23] {Threei} (RU) RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO EU: RUSSIA IS "TOO CIVILIZED" TO CUT OFF ENERGY SUPPLIES TO THE EU
[12:23] {Threei} - Notes that punitive steps by the EU against Russia would fail.
[12:24] {Threei} let's remember this 'too civilized"
[12:24] {Threei} my prediction is, come winter we will have a few occasions to return to this sentence
[12:25] {Onix} you expecting bigger trouble over there Vad?
[12:25] {Threei} can't see how they could be avoidable
[12:26] {dino} didn't they cut off gas to germany for a few days last year
[12:26] {dino} makes for a cold winter
[12:27] {Threei} and consider that pipes go via Ukraine
[12:27] {Threei} so it makes it easy to cut off gas to Ukraine, using real or fake price dispute
[12:27] {Threei} forcing Ukraine to start siphoning gas off those pipes
[12:27] {Threei} and making it a bad guy
[12:27] {dino} indeed
[12:28] {dino} may you live in interesting times
[12:28] {magoo} u should have stayed there..joined communist party..and aspired to be sec of treasurery
[12:29] {Threei} why am I not delighted by the perspective
06[12:32] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:35] {laserdave1} market on fire
06[12:35] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:35] {Threei} ummm
[12:35] {Threei} look at volume
06[12:35] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:36] {Threei} I'd say, it's on smoulder
[12:37] {dino} syno sm l .99, stop lod
[12:37] {peterg} Lower On Down?
[12:37] {Threei} just very low overall
[12:37] {dino} stop lod=low of day
[12:37] {peterg} tks
[12:37] {Threei} so "fire" is a bit too loud
[12:38] {Threei} smouldering is more like it
[12:38] {dino} don't ask again.........................lol
[12:40] {dino} because i don't trust this market, look what cme and wynn do
[12:41] {laserdave1} i looked up cme definition in dictionary
[12:42] {laserdave1} cme = nuts
[12:42] {dino} lol
[12:42] {laserdave1} 19 points off of bottom
[12:42] {dino} mine said f'ing nuts
[12:42] {laserdave1} haha
[12:42] {laserdave1} ya
[12:44] {dino} v sm ma l .40, wide
[12:49] {peterg} now .89?
[12:51] {dino} que?
[12:52] {peterg} is this MA at $235 and change per sh?
[12:52] {dino} y
[12:52] {peterg} k
[12:52] {dino} mastercard
[12:52] {peterg} ah
[12:52] {dino} i was on vaca, so it should move up
[12:53] {peterg} roger that
[12:53] {dino} can't get thru .90
[12:53] {dino} vsnt stopped -.33 at .90
[12:54] {dino} reverse slip, hmmm
[12:55] {peterg} dfghjikolt6r5e4drftyuioujytt53w123456qw
[12:55] {peterg} L;
[12:55] {peterg} SORRY cleaning keys
[12:56] {peterg} compulsive
[12:56] {peterg} should put my white gloves back on
[12:57] {dino} ok michael, and i suppose you sign too, :)
[12:57] {dino} i always thought there was something wrong w/jackson wearing one glove signing beat it
[12:58] {dino} singing
[12:58] {peterg} got it!
[12:59] {dino} gxdx
[13:04] {dino} ma stop to flat
[13:04] {dino} stopped
[13:15] {dino} hurn
[13:21] {peterg} ARBA?
[13:21] {peterg} spikey
[13:21] {peterg} up
[13:23] {peterg} and dn
[13:24] {dino} gxdx sm s .60, stop .01
[13:39] {Threei} if CLNE takes .40 again, most likely will turn into runner again
[13:40] {Threei} we exited FINL just right eh?
[13:42] {Threei} wake up you guys
[13:42] {magoo} here
[13:42] {Threei} on the other hand... what for
[13:42] {Threei} go back to sleep
[13:42] {magoo} good niht
[13:42] {Threei} but magoo
[13:42] {Threei} while you are here and awake
06[13:43] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:44] {Threei} hey lars!
[13:44] {Threei} welcome back
[13:44] {Threei} how are you?
[13:45] {lars} worn out from reunion
[13:45] {lars} we tried to see if we still had it
[13:45] {lars} NOT
[13:45] {Threei} lol
[13:46] {lars} had fun trying though
[13:46] {Threei} and headache in the morning?
[13:47] {lars} consecutive daily headaches...lol
[13:47] {Threei} serial headache
[13:47] {Threei} nice
[13:47] {Threei} sharing a little secret:
[13:48] {Threei} if you had enough of hard liquor yesterday, start the day with a glass of water
[13:48] {Threei} it dilutes some of leftovers and tyou are drunk once again - FREE!
[13:48] {lars} lol
[13:48] {Threei} dp, don't run to the water tap that fast
[13:49] {dptl} hehe...i do it all the time.....it's like two for one thing
[13:49] {Threei} yup, I know it was nothing new for you
[13:49] {dptl} lol
[13:50] {magoo} st patrics day i drank so much green beer i was literally sweating green
[13:51] {dino} i'll tell you what the worst thing about the all-inclusive resorts is......i start drinking in the a.m.
[13:51] {magoo} like thats a bad thing
[13:51] {dino} magoo, you and belushi are the green men
[13:52] {dino} vad, this room has a problem, we were all falling asleep until lars brought up drinking
[13:52] {Threei} I fail to see how that is a problem
[13:52] {peterg} almost one pm in the midwest, time for a drink!
[13:53] {dino} lol, waiting until 4:00 pm eastern
[13:53] {lars} my sentiments exactly
[13:53] {peterg} ditto; in fact I finish day job at 5-sober til then
[13:53] {Onix} a bit late but in CLNE @ .41
[13:54] {Threei} stop under .30
[13:54] {Onix} ty
[13:57] {peterg} covered GXDX +.08 thks dino
[13:58] {dino} gj, what size?
[13:58] {peterg} embarrassingly sm 100
[13:58] {peterg} si 8 bucks less .50 commish
[13:58] {magoo} contra hour vad?
[13:58] {Threei} hmm?
[13:59] {magoo} 2-3 oposite hour
[13:59] {dino} ok, pete, fwiw, when i enter w/sm listed, means 300 shares looking for .40+. otherwise i'm not entering, or going larger w/o sm
[14:01] {dino} hurn feels one more spike and die
[14:01] {peterg} ok thnks
[14:02] {dino} just letting you know the 1:1 goal
[14:03] {peterg} risk/reward goal
[14:04] {dino} yes
[14:04] {dino} i trade smaller and wider. v.sm = 100-200
[14:04] {dino} and then wider still, see
[14:05] {dino} amln, why oh why did i not short it
[14:16] {dino} gxdx bstop to .51 stuck
[14:17] {dino} reverse slipped stopped .50, +.10
[14:17] {magoo} die market DDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[14:21] {Threei} {market} why do you hate me :(
[14:22] {Onix} UP market UP!
[14:22] {Onix} UP CLNE UP!
[14:28] {Threei} CPSL srats slowly working for ese
[14:29] {Threei} starts even
[14:32] {Threei} FRE
[14:32] {Threei} CONVENTIAL MORTGAGE PRICES FELL 0.4%, VALUES UP IN NEW ENGLAND AND SOUTH CENTRAL REGION OF US
[14:35] {dino} ipcm spike
[14:46] {dino} gxdx sm s .96 stop .32
[14:47] {judijim} bye everyone, be back tomorrow
[14:47] {dino} cya jj'
[14:47] {Threei} take care jj
[14:55] {Threei} CLNE half out .60
[14:55] {Threei} scalpers know what to do
[14:56] {dptl} ok....gonna go relax a bit..(sleeping at my station here)..have a good evening all:)
[14:56] {Threei} take care dp
[14:56] {Onix} CLNE half out @ .56 (16c)
[14:57] {Threei} move your behind CLNE, we have 17 to take
[14:57] {Threei} while we are young
[14:58] {dino} cya dp
[15:01] {dino} syno too hard tighten stop to .23, jumps around
[15:04] {Onix} ty Vad, i got .16c +.24c in CLNE
[15:05] {Threei} welcome sir
[15:05] {Threei} magoo wake up
[15:08] {dino} gj onix
[15:08] {dino} tighten syno to .27
[15:08] {Threei} dino... could you please put an elbow in magoo's side?
[15:08] {Threei} try to get between ribs
[15:09] {dino} stopped slip to .25, +.26
[15:10] {Threei} out CLNE .79
[15:10] {Threei} don't want to wait for 17
[15:10] {Onix} wtg!
[15:10] {Threei} maybe it pulls back for me
[15:10] {dino} cov gxdx .56, +.40
[15:11] {Threei} wtg dino
[15:11] {Threei} now wake up magoo, he forgot again he had CLNE
[15:11] {magoo} oh shit
[15:11] {dino} lol, and ty
[15:11] {magoo} lol
[15:12] {dino} lucky spike entry on gxdx short
[15:16] {dino} sm s ipcm .36
[15:18] {Threei} unexpectedly good day
[15:18] {Threei} albeit juust as boring as yesterday
[15:18] {dino} i concur
[15:19] {Threei} AMLN is probably one who doesn't... but we don't care
[15:31] {magoo} me tinks my death cry worxexd
[15:31] {magoo} jesus..dino just put a beer in friont of magoo
[15:31] {dino} sm sohu s .02, stop .32
[15:34] {Threei} he is cruel
[15:35] {magoo} indeed{hiccuop}
[15:35] {dino} i just took him a bud light
[15:38] {dino} ipcm bstop to .21
[15:40] {Threei} don't really intend to take any more trades, watching how CLNE finishes
[15:40] {dino} sohu not working, tighten to .22
[15:41] {Threei} if it drops low enough may get tempted to take overnight on it
[15:41] {dino} ipcm to .14
[15:42] {dino} stopped sohu .16 -.14
[15:43] {dino} ipcm to .11
[15:43] {dino} burning daylight
[15:44] {dino} stopped .12, +.24
[15:45] {dino} chrd drop
[15:50] {dino} ok, miller time, plus tee time in 50
[15:50] {dino} decent day. thx all
[15:50] {magoo} me too..ty all
[15:50] {Threei} take care guys
[15:51] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening
[15:51] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[15:54] {peterg} bye guys--thanks for the help!
[15:56] {Onix} thanks for a profitable day Vad, until tomorrow then everybody