Friday, December 19, 2008

Dec 19 2008

Please review the content for the Bahamas Conference in April, 2009. You will find a lot of interesting topics, including five seminars by me. Please fill out the Survey to help finalize the planning.

Quadriple witching day so we decided to stay very picky. It paid off well - 5 calls, 5 winners. That's all she wrote,  great relaxing weekend's ahead.


Session Time: Fri Dec 19 00:00:00 2008

[08:11] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH TO MAKE STATEMENT REGARDING AUTO MAKERS AT 9:00AM EST
[08:11] {Threei} {GM F}
[08:15] {Threei} -Note that ABC news analysts Thursday evening speculating that U.S. lawmakers have been working long hours and want to wrap this up and go home for the holiday Friday.{GM F}
[08:34] {Threei} ANNUAL S&P INDEX REBALANCING WILL OCCURING AFTER THE CLOSE OF TRADING ON FRIDAY, DEC 19
[08:34] {Threei} **S&P500 top ten share buys by total $: JPM WFC MER GE ABT ADP T GS XTO PRE
[08:34] {Threei} **S&P500 top ten share sales by total $: XOM MSFT PM COP CVX KFT INTC CSCO MS MRK
[08:34] {Threei} **S&P400 top ten share buys by total $: ORLY ROST JBHT PPDI URBN SAI PCLN ESS PWR VRTX
[08:34] {Threei} **S&P400 top ten share sales by total $: PETM LAMR KBR ADS JLL CDNS NCR DST DWA STLD
[08:34] {Threei} **S&P600 top ten share buys by total $: SF SBNY KDN GFF CCC MSCC LKQX LXP GHL EXR
[08:34] {Threei} **S&P600 top ten share sales by total $: CKH WTNY GDI SPF CY PSSI PRGS BRC IPCC WW
[08:34] {Threei} EXPECTED NASDAQ 100 INDEX CHANGES UPON REBALANCE AFTER THE CLOSE OF TRADING ON FRIDAY DEC 19
[08:34] {Threei} **expected Nasdaq 100 Index changes.
[08:34] {Threei} - Adding: ADP FSLR ILMN JBHT LIFE MXIM ORLY PPDI ROST WCRX URBN
[08:34] {Threei} - Deleting: AMLN CDNS DISCA LAMR LEAP LVLT PETM SIRI SNDK VMED WFMI
[08:46] {Threei} GM
[08:46] {Threei} TO GET $13.4B IN LOANS FROM TARP FUNDS
[08:47] {lisa_jay} Good Morning.
[08:47] {Threei} morning lisa
[08:47] {lisa_jay} We are expecting a foot of snow here in the afternoon.
[08:47] {Threei} yikes
[08:48] {lisa_jay} All schools closed.
[08:49] {magoo} morning
[08:49] {lisa_jay} Hi Magoo
[08:49] {Threei} magoo :)
[08:49] {Threei} GM, CHRYSLER TO GET $13.4B IN SHORT TERM LOANS FROM TARP FUNDS
[08:49] {Threei} - Firms will need to comply with limits on executive payment and elmination of corporate jets
[08:49] {Threei} - Second $4B tranche to be made available in Feb from second half of TARP
[08:50] {Threei} again with those jets
[08:50] {Threei} how stupid is that
[08:50] {Onix} Good morning pilgrims
[08:50] {Threei} yeah, jets is the problem
[08:50] {Threei} onix :)
[08:50] {lisa_jay} Hi Onix
[08:50] {Threei} - Government to have the power to block any transactions made by the companies over $100M
[08:51] {Threei} - Government to have the power to block any transactions made by the companies over $100M
[08:51] {Threei} - Manufactoreres need to be in compliance with MPG legislation
[08:51] {Threei} - Senior government debt to be senior to all other debts outstanding
[08:52] {Threei} - Can not issue dividends while debts are still owed to US gov
[08:53] {magoo} RIMM hit 41.50 afterhours last nite
[08:54] {Threei} - automakers must reduce debt by 2/3 in equity swap
[08:54] {Threei} - Terms are subject to negotiation
[08:54] {magoo} its active this a.m
[08:54] {Threei} did AIG et all got 1% of all these terms?
[08:56] {magoo} bush on tv at 9 a.m vad
[08:56] {magoo} u watching F GM?
[08:56] {Threei} 08:11] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH TO MAKE STATEMENT REGARDING AUTO MAKERS AT 9:00AM EST
[08:56] {Threei} yeah
[08:56] {Threei} but I don't expect them to fare well with all this
[08:57] {Threei} this is not a solution, this is just what was expected: kicking the can down the road
[08:57] {Threei} keeping them afloat until Obama takes over
[08:57] {Onix} true
[08:58] {Threei} why not adress the problem at the root
[08:58] {Threei} people are not buying cars, with credit troubles etc
[08:59] {Threei} so why not apply all these funds exactly there,
[08:59] {Threei} giving govt subsidy or call it whatever you want, to any buyer for the next X months
[09:00] {Threei} cars will start moving, buyers will save, indusstry gets out of gridlock
[09:00] {Threei} even if temporary, wouldn't it be better band-aid at this point than what they suggest?
[09:01] {Threei} they want stimulate spending, don't they
[09:01] {Larisa1} morning all :) so much snow, and can not blame Al Gore, it is like this every winter :)
[09:01] {Threei} morning Larisa
[09:01] {Onix} unbelievable that clever people can act so stupid
[09:01] {Threei} come on, go ahead and blame him anyway
[09:01] {Larisa1} ok :)
[09:01] {Onix} hi larisa
[09:02] {Larisa1} threei, onix :)
[09:02] {Threei} not even speaking of social aspect
[09:02] {Threei} for once, help out the ordinary taxpayer
[09:02] {Larisa1} what the futures were at their low did they even react ?
[09:02] {Raven} Snowy, sleety (?) morning all :)
[09:02] {Threei} Raven :)
[09:03] {Larisa1} morning raven :)
[09:03] {Threei} they did a little larisa
[09:03] {Threei} not huge
[09:03] {Larisa1} k
[09:03] {Threei} and for Pete sake, stop with idiotic "corporate jets"
[09:03] {Onix} hi raven
[09:03] {Threei} do they really expect CEO of GM fly commerical from meeting to meeting?
[09:04] {Larisa1} and use public bathroom :)
[09:04] {Threei} that I don't care about ::)
[09:04] {Raven} those dipshits ought to have teleconference meetings
[09:06] {Raven} empty suits flying around in private jets to shake each other's hands in the height of stupidity
[09:06] {dawg} gm all
[09:06] {Threei} dawg :)
[09:06] {lisa_jay} Hi Dawg.
[09:06] {KSystems} good morning!!
[09:06] {KSystems} Expiration day today?
[09:06] {Threei} ks :)
[09:06] {lisa_jay} Hello KS.
[09:07] {dawg} hello Lisa
[09:07] {KSystems} hey lisa
[09:07] {Threei} quadriple witching KS
[09:07] {Larisa1} dawg, lisa, KS :)
[09:07] {KSystems} larisa :)
[09:07] {dawg} gm Larisa1
[09:07] {lisa_jay} Hi there Larisa.
06[09:08] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large cap of purified caffeine
[09:09] {Geo} gm all
[09:09] {Threei} Geo :)
[09:09] {lisa_jay} Hi Geo.
06[09:09] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large B 12 injection along with iron supplement
[09:09] {Threei} mags, ever since you loaded that brilliant csript by KS your creativity is spilling over the rim
[09:10] {magoo} u like that one eh?
[09:10] {Threei} love'em all
[09:10] {laserdave1} laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a level II window
[09:11] {Threei} see how pathetic dave's one looks when he has no script?
[09:11] {cosmo} geez ... forgot the B-12 ...again
[09:11] {Threei} lol cosmo
[09:11] {cosmo} :)
[09:11] {cosmo} sigh....its all algore's fault...lars knows
[09:12] {Larisa1} lol
[09:12] {Threei} it is
[09:12] {lisa_jay} ORCL
[09:12] {cosmo} :)
[09:13] {Threei} I put him right there next to Alan Greenspan in terms of being to blamed for everything
[09:13] {cosmo} hmmm
[09:14] {dino} gm all
[09:14] {Larisa1} Alan said it all will get better in 6 months
[09:14] {Larisa1} gm dino
[09:14] {Threei} dino :)
[09:14] {lisa_jay} hi Dino
[09:14] {cosmo} better ... but for who?
[09:14] {Threei} yeah
[09:14] {Larisa1} for people still alive :)
[09:15] {Threei} reminds me old soviet joke
[09:15] {Threei} Communist Party leader from the tribune:
[09:15] {Threei} Next year our life is going to be much better!
[09:15] {Threei} weak voice from the audience:
[09:15] {Threei} What about ours?
[09:16] {Onix} morning dino
[09:16] {Larisa1} pessimist
[09:16] {dptl} good morning all
[09:16] {Threei} dp :)
[09:16] {Threei} please read the first post at the following link for more informal details on Bahamas conference
[09:16] {Threei} http://caracommunity.com/content/caras-commentary-community-chat-fri-dec-19-2008
[09:16] {Onix} hi dp
[09:17] {_elepet} p
[09:17] {dptl} :)
[09:17] {Threei} elepet :)
[09:17] {dino} i don't get how they changed the rules again....govt debt senior tyo all others, they just screwed all the bond holders that have been there for years
[09:17] {dino} these bond holders would have owned the assets, now what do they owen?
[09:17] {dino} own
[09:17] {dino} artc
[09:17] {Threei} they are rulemakers... who is to tell them what rules should or should not be...
[09:18] {dino} it is b.s.
[09:18] {cosmo} the deciders?
[09:18] {dino} i loan you money, take 1st mortgage and then govt comes in later and pushes me down the line
[09:18] {Threei} but dino... they did set a condition to do away with corporate jets
[09:18] {dino} yeah, big whoop
[09:19] {Threei} {--- sarcastoc and jaundiced
[09:19] {KSystems} jeez, cant you install an auto-kick for everyone mentioning "corporate jet" once again
[09:19] {dino} i know
[09:19] {cosmo} hybrid jets might work.....
[09:19] {Threei} but KS... that would be me who will get kicked
[09:19] {dino} i just am upset w/rule changes in the middle of game, 1st no shorts, now this
[09:19] {Threei} bu dino... did you guys not vote for the change
[09:20] {cosmo} its a tradition, 3i
[09:20] {dino} i voted mccain
06[09:20] * Threei 's sarcasm and jaundicity increases by day as he moves closer to senility
[09:21] {cosmo} ron paul here
[09:21] {dino} the socialism of america
[09:21] {Threei} why oh why am I not 80
[09:21] {Threei} I really don't want to see what's at the end of this road
[09:22] {Threei} GM got unduly happy
[09:22] {Threei} whatever... dino, come to Bahamas and we will have nice juicy drink with no drop of juice in it
[09:23] {dino} hopefully
[09:23] {Threei} filled the survey for now?
06[09:24] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large survey for Bahamas conference
[09:25] {dino} i will tonight 3i
[09:25] {Threei} cool
[09:26] {Threei} ok guys
[09:26] {Threei} quardiple witching
[09:27] {Threei} let's keep it to half lot for now until we see what transpires,
[09:27] {Threei} let's skip first 5-10 minutes,
[09:27] {Threei} let's be picky and relaxed,
[09:27] {Threei} and let's blame Greenspan and Gore for any stop we may have today.
[09:28] {ese} morning
06[09:28] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large reminder that people are trying to dcc him
[09:29] {Threei} ese :)
[09:29] {lisa_jay} orcl up 5%
[09:29] {Threei} F
[09:29] {Threei} NOT SEEKING SHORT-TERM GOVT LOANS, WELCOMES FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR GM AND CHRYSLER, SAYS STILL SEEKING $9B CREDIT LINE
[09:29] {Threei} F may be better player than GM actually
[09:30] {dino} stronger
[09:30] {Threei} yup
[09:30] {Threei} 3.26 if holding above 3.15?
[09:31] {peterg} Morning!
[09:31] {Threei} peter :)
[09:31] {Threei} oil 35?
[09:31] {Threei} sheesh
[09:31] {Onix} hi peter
[09:31] {Threei} opullback entry looks better for F
[09:32] {peterg} Big O
[09:32] {Threei} TREASURY SEC PAULSON: LOANS FOR THE AUTOMAKERS WILL PREVENT SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTIONS TO THE US ECONOMY: SECOND HALF OF $350BN IN TARP FUNDS WILL BE NEEDED TO SUPPORT OVERALL MARKET OPERATIONS
[09:32] {Threei} - Automakers will need to make significant restructuring actions to provide for long term viability
[09:32] {Threei} - Auto bailout plan will put companies on a path to independent viability
[09:32] {Threei} - Loan will prevent the possibility of sever economic disruptions
[09:32] {Threei} - Will meet with Congress to dicuss 2nd half of TARP release in near future{GM F}
[09:32] {ese} long VMED .77
[09:32] {ese} sorry that .76
[09:34] {Threei} Long Setup: F 3.13 if stays above 3.05
[09:35] {cosmo} i never thot i'd buy another "F" again...
[09:37] {Threei} doesn't look like you will
[09:37] {cosmo} ...maybe next year...
[09:38] {Geo} drys blood
[09:39] {Threei} bounce candidate soon
[09:40] {Larisa1} HIG selloff but no vol so far
[09:40] {lisa_jay} PAY
[09:41] {dino} -7 baltic index fwiw
[09:42] {Threei} Long Setup: HIG .80 break half lot
[09:42] {Threei} stop under .70
[09:44] {lisa_jay} In Hig at .81
[09:44] {lisa_jay} Target vad?
[09:45] {Threei} over .90
[09:45] {Threei} hard to tell scalp or half
[09:46] {Threei} there you go
[09:47] {Threei} solidly over 1:1, your decision
[09:47] {lisa_jay} Sold at .98 17c thanks Vad.
[09:47] {Threei} welcome
[09:47] {Geo} out at 1:2
[09:47] {Threei} who held, get out here
[09:47] {magoo} WOW HIG vad nice
[09:47] {Geo} ty
[09:47] {lisa_jay} S*** should have partialed
[09:47] {lisa_jay} Oh boy
[09:47] {Threei} lol
[09:47] {Geo} you gotta be greedy lisa :)
[09:48] {Threei} scalper's regret central
[09:48] {lisa_jay} Hope you all are holding....will be very happy for you.
[09:48] {Threei} credits to larisa for bringing it to attention btw
[09:48] {Geo} i should have the 1/4
[09:48] {lisa_jay} Thanks Larisa.
[09:48] {KSystems} 1/2 our .92, 1/4 out .04
[09:48] {Threei} can I go home?
[09:49] {Larisa1} no, we will bring stocks to your attention and you call it for us :)
[09:49] {KSystems} rest out .28
06[09:49] * Geo slaps Threei around a bit with a large get back to work banner
[09:49] {Threei} you realize that you base it on assumption I can read?
[09:49] {lisa_jay} I should go home...sigh. I am home though.
[09:50] {Geo} man hig
[09:50] {Geo} snifffff
[09:50] {Threei} what's with GERN
[09:51] {Threei} thing is crawling toward 5 wich is major breakout
[09:52] {dino} mwiv sm l .10
[09:52] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: REITERATES THAT AUTOMAKERS ARE CURRENTLY NOT VIABLE ENTITIES
[09:53] {Threei} {automakers} you... you... sniff... YOU are not viable!
[09:58] {dino} then i guess dinner and drinks are out
[09:59] {cosmo} unless you fly first class...
[09:59] {dino} ahhh
[10:00] {lisa_jay} FMCN strong
[10:00] {Threei} Long Setup: DRYS .50 break if stays above .30
[10:01] {Threei} NASDAQ new high would be very helpful
[10:02] {magoo} in drys
[10:02] {dino} crdn sm l .67 stop .43
[10:02] {Threei} spiky time NQ
[10:02] {Threei} jump over that 1230 in one swoop
[10:02] {Threei} and make us heppy
[10:03] {Threei} hippy?
[10:03] {dino} happy
[10:03] {Threei} hoppy
[10:03] {Threei} oh... dino's right
[10:03] {KSystems} häppy?
[10:03] {Threei} lol
[10:03] {Geo} heppy = hep and happy
[10:03] {Threei} hp and happy
[10:03] {Threei} hip
[10:04] {Threei} NQ spiked to 1229.5
[10:04] {Threei} retreated a bit but should break now
[10:05] {Threei} let's trail DRYS to under .40 when it breaks .60
[10:05] {Threei} there
[10:06] {magoo} u got half or full
[10:06] {Threei} NQ retreat, DRYS holding
[10:06] {Threei} 1:1 almost
[10:06] {Threei} full, but mostly because I forgot to halve it
[10:07] {Threei} half out .67
[10:08] {lisa_jay} Hlaf out .69
06[10:08] * Geo slaps Threei around a bit with a large extra keyboard
[10:08] {dino} crdn stopped -.24
06[10:08] * Geo is in slap happy friday
[10:08] {lisa_jay} Next lot Vad, where to sell? Thanks.
[10:08] {Threei} good boy DRYssy
[10:09] {Threei} whereever lisa... honestly :)
[10:09] {Threei} no way to tell
[10:09] {Geo} previous res mabe a good place to peel some out
[10:09] {Larisa1} 11.80 was high on previous spike
[10:09] {cosmo} .59
[10:09] {Threei} I am out
[10:09] {Larisa1} right Geo :)
[10:09] {Threei} .79
[10:09] {Geo} also close to prev low
[10:10] {Geo} out
[10:10] {Geo} was trailing close
[10:10] {Threei} I address all Russian-speaking in the room... am I delusional or DRYS name really reminds of diahhrea?
[10:10] {magoo} out
[10:10] {Geo} thanks for a good friday lord vader
[10:10] {Threei} welcome Geo
[10:11] {lisa_jay} Out all .78
[10:11] {Geo} scanners crazy today
[10:11] {lisa_jay} Thanks Vad.
[10:11] {Threei} lisa :)
[10:11] {Geo} hmmm rinse on trail
[10:11] {Threei} here comes NQ break
[10:11] {Geo} prev res tagged
[10:12] {Threei} russian-speaking don't even want to talk to me... all three of them
[10:13] {cosmo} 3i.... its dislexia i think
[10:13] {Geo} we have 3?????
[10:13] {Threei} which puts them right there with all others including swuahili-speaking
[10:13] {Geo} whose the 3rd?
[10:13] {dino} sm l avav .51
[10:13] {Geo} magoo?
[10:14] {Threei} I am a guardian of privacy geo... won't tell you until he admits it himself
[10:15] {cosmo} DRYS .59 stop for investors...
[10:15] {Geo} heheh new category
[10:15] {cosmo} its relative
[10:15] {Geo} bull market starting?
06[10:15] * Geo likes to invest in lead and gunmetal
[10:16] {Threei} actually, it's bear that makes a lot of new investors...
[10:16] {Threei} by the principle: investment is a day trade gone baad
[10:16] {Geo} heheh
[10:16] {dino} snow starting, getting 12"+
[10:16] {Threei} oh boy
[10:17] {patience} patience stunned into silence with the thought of that much snow
[10:17] {lisa_jay} We are waiting Dino....kids are on the look out.
[10:17] {cosmo} must be fun
[10:18] {dino} kids home here too
[10:19] {dino} magoo, slap me, twice i've entered buys w/ wrong symbol loaded
[10:20] {magoo} nice call on naz vad
06[10:21] * magoo slaps dino around a bit with a large new pair of reading glasses
[10:21] {lisa_jay} Cosmo, you still holding Drys?
[10:21] {_elepet} still in drys from .54
[10:21] {cosmo} .89 for investors...
[10:22] {cosmo} :)
[10:22] {magoo} inWestors he he
[10:22] {lisa_jay} Greed is good Lisa....Greed is good Lisa....Greed is good Lisa.
[10:22] {dino} indeed
[10:23] {Geo} greed drives human civilization
[10:23] {cosmo} its all those stimulants i say
[10:24] {magoo} vad, couldnt conference be in alaska in feb?
[10:24] {dino} then say it
[10:24] {magoo} prob with bahamas is dino not gonna look to good on beach if u know what i saying {or vad for that matter}
06[10:25] * Geo mulls over that piece of overshare
[10:26] {Threei} but magoo... I am going to be in suit and tie
[10:26] {lisa_jay} lol
[10:27] {cosmo} i'll never wear a tie again
[10:27] {magoo} on the beach??
[10:28] {Threei} yes
[10:28] {cosmo} maybe a wet suit
[10:28] {Threei} I have to maintain that distinguished guru look
[10:28] {Geo} the tie is agood napkin
[10:28] {Threei} if I told you a story behind that photo on a homepage you'd die laughing
[10:29] {Threei} something seems to be brewing on GERN
[10:30] {dino} coffee brewing here
[10:30] {magoo} need cup-o-joe
[10:30] {lisa_jay} the coffee maker fixed Dino?
[10:30] {KSystems} thats a wonderful idea dino
[10:30] {magoo} exploded this morn on magoo
[10:30] {KSystems} lets just not forget enough milk
[10:30] {Threei} yuck
[10:30] {dino} old one in use
[10:31] {dino} magoo messed it up this morning
[10:31] {Threei} milk in coffee... ultimate definition of perversion
[10:31] {dino} wants landlord to buy a new one, i'm going over lease
[10:31] {magoo} cheap bastard
[10:31] {magoo} i drank all his beer last nite tho
[10:32] {Threei} GERN is a tough stock to call
[10:32] {Threei} if you don't mind stop under .60, .75 brwak maybe worth it
[10:33] {Threei} requires patience
[10:33] {Threei} shakeout central
[10:33] {lisa_jay} lot size vad?
[10:33] {magoo} blizzard here
[10:33] {Threei} let's put this stock in "highly discretionary" category
[10:34] {Threei} as one of our original members chuck used to call it, serial disappointer
[10:34] {lisa_jay} ok, thanks.
[10:34] {Threei} seems to be under accumulation, nice volume too
[10:35] {Threei} but this kind of accumulation may reslove in a very different timeframe than what we use
[10:35] {magoo} focus elsewhere boss paaaalease
[10:35] {magoo} u obsess all day on a dimer
[10:36] {magoo} give me a read on something lil quicker like POT
[10:36] {Geo} really thin
[10:36] {magoo} thank u geo...ive been working out
[10:36] {Geo} lol
[10:37] {magoo} for the girls here
[10:37] {magoo} patience, lisa & larisa
[10:37] {lisa_jay} It shows.
[10:37] {patience} looking forward to seeing the results magoo
[10:37] {cosmo} pot?
[10:37] {magoo} calm down cos
[10:38] {cosmo} yes...its good for that
[10:38] {cosmo} i supose
[10:39] {Threei} talk about junk food:
[10:39] {Threei} 10:36am [EAT] Moodys lowers senior unsecured rating to junk
[10:40] {Threei} 10:39:36 ADMIN7 --} (All): Stale INET quotes caused by data provider - we're on them to fix it. For now, make sure autocorrect is enabled, with 0 on all settings on right - Level II tab.
[10:40] {magoo} vad, do i gotta do that auto correct setting? clueless here in laser
[10:40] {Threei} right click level 2
[10:40] {Threei} Level II tab
[10:40] {magoo} ok
[10:41] {peterg} trading seettings
[10:41] {Threei} make sure boxes for autocorrect are checked
[10:41] {Threei} put zeros in boxes to the right on them
[10:41] {magoo} all checked or just top 2?
[10:41] {Threei} top two
[10:42] {magoo} ok ty
[10:42] {dino} magoo, what do you think, +300 dji?
[10:42] {magoo} 500 really
[10:42] {peterg} have level two trading setting up; where autocorrect?
[10:43] {peterg} settings
[10:43] {dino} +500 and i buy you lunch monday
[10:43] {magoo} [10:40] {Threei} Level II tab
[10:43] {Threei} lower section peter
[10:43] {magoo} then bottom
[10:44] {magoo} u giot it peterg?
[10:44] {lisa_jay} nq testing highs
[10:45] {peterg} not sure; what is lower section of what?
[10:45] {magoo} wow, worse than magoo vads...refreshing lol
[10:45] {Threei} trading settings, level ii tab
[10:46] {Threei} there is a section titled autocorrection
[10:46] {peterg} ok
[10:46] {peterg} ok got it thanks
[10:47] {peterg} check with 0; 0.5
06[10:47] * magoo slaps peterg around a bit with a large brand spankin new laser manuel guarenteed to never been opened by original owner magoo
[10:47] {peterg} checked enabled with a zero and a zero point five
[10:47] {peterg} that fedels feels good
[10:48] {peterg} why is laser manual written in aramaic?
[10:48] {Threei} change second to zero as well
[10:48] {magoo} OH OH VVAD
[10:49] {magoo} VAD
[10:49] {magoo} i forgot to save settings...can u help me AGAIN
[10:49] {Threei} what?
[10:50] {Geo} sheesh
[10:50] {Geo} rimm paid nicely in meanwhile
[10:51] {dino} avav stopped flat, lousy entry
[10:54] {dino} sm l uso .25
[10:54] {laserdave1} LASER TRADERS
[10:55] {magoo} OY
[10:55] {laserdave1} if anyone has issue of stuck quotes
[10:55] {laserdave1} please dcc me
[10:55] {laserdave1} and i will send you an email on how to fix this
[10:55] {laserdave1} My level II is perfect now
[10:55] {Threei} why don't you just post here
[10:55] {laserdave1} its a screenshot
[10:55] {Threei} ah
[10:56] {magoo} shit my AAPL quotes are stuk dave
[10:56] {Threei} then post text here and make a ,lot of hand gestures to explain the rest
[10:56] {laserdave1} there are quite a few little settings to copy
[10:56] {laserdave1} but takes 2 secs if u have visual
[10:56] {Threei} send me please
[10:56] {laserdave1} ok email coming magoo
[10:56] {laserdave1} and to you Vad
[10:56] {Threei} just so I have it to send if you are slacking
[10:57] {laserdave1} me slack
[10:57] {laserdave1} is the market open now?
[10:57] {Threei} we know
06[10:57] * peterg slaps magoo around a bit with a large large but not unattractive diorama of early Neanderthal crouched by cave with pet Mastodon and fire keeping hyenas at bay
[10:57] {magoo} i guarentee its gonna take me more than 2 seconds SIGH lol
[10:57] {peterg} sorry if bad timing
[10:58] {Threei} wow peter
[10:58] {Threei} where did you get that picture of mine?
[10:58] {peterg} didn't need the double large
[10:58] {peterg} Came in through the bathroom window
[10:58] {peterg} Joe Cocker song
[10:59] {lisa_jay} .
[10:59] {Threei} I knew that neanderthal with long-focus Canon lens from the neighbour tribe was paparazzi
[10:59] {peterg} lol
[10:59] {Threei} should have eaten her
[11:00] {peterg} ok, off for hr
[11:01] {Threei} GM Ceo on TV in a min
[11:02] {magoo} HEY DAVE...it worked THANX
[11:04] {laserdave1} nprobs
[11:04] {magoo} coulda used u yesterday SLACKEr
[11:04] {magoo} HE HE just kidding
06[11:08] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large newly patented electrical shock alarm clock
[11:09] {laserdave1} i just got the new fix from them
06[11:09] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:09] {Chaeron} send me too slacker
[11:10] {Chaeron} good morning all
06[11:10] * peterg slaps magoo around a bit with a large preposterous, but not too vulgar representation of Elvis in his white leathers crooning in Las Vegas
[11:11] {magoo} OY
[11:11] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:11] {peterg} thought you'd appreciate
[11:13] {Larisa1} morning Chaeron :) you better come help to clean my driveway or I am sending 10+ to California! :)
[11:14] {magoo} where u located Larisa?
[11:14] {Larisa1} not telling you
[11:14] {magoo} lol
[11:14] {Larisa1} you scare me magoo
06[11:15] * Chaeron coming up with a flame-throwing tank
[11:15] {Larisa1} :)
[11:15] {Chaeron} Larisa is smart cookie
[11:15] {Threei} no wonder larisa.... magoo scares himself, to the point of soiling himself when faces mirror
[11:15] {Geo} too much detail vad
[11:17] {Threei} just couldn't help but chuckle when remembered a joke about a special forces guy's explanation why he missed an assignment
[11:18] {Threei} put all the ammunition all over himself, jungle face makeup etc, then accidentally looked in the mirrow before leaving home...
[11:21] {dptl} Dave dcc pls
[11:21] {dino} ok 3" of snow already and still snowing hard
[11:24] {magoo} vad u watcjhig DRYS?
[11:25] {magoo} boubncer
[11:25] {Threei} cabn't tell bouncer or breakdowner
[11:27] {dino} uso stopped -.28
[11:28] {dptl} Dave......dcc pls
06[11:29] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large attention-getter on behalf of dptl
[11:29] {dptl} lol.....ty
[11:33] {lisa_jay} q's moving
[11:34] {Threei} times must have changed greatly since my dating days
[11:34] {lisa_jay} ?
[11:34] {Threei} this line from e-mail I just got puts me at loss
[11:34] {Threei} With the ability to make out for days you'll be the best candidate for girls to spend night with
[11:35] {Threei} who wouyld want to make out for days???
[11:35] {lisa_jay} Sorry i asked ?
[11:35] {Larisa1} lol lisa
[11:36] {Larisa1} vad you do not have to read all junk e-mail you get. Just say NO :)
[11:37] {Threei} but... how do I know it's a junk unless I read it?
[11:37] {dino} ah, vad....don't know how to say this but they are mass emails sent to millions, not just you
[11:37] {Threei} noooooo
[11:37] {Geo} usuaually vd if the headline says
[11:38] {Geo} "liv &%%^$ girls"
[11:38] {Threei} you mean for spammers I am not special??
[11:38] {Geo} its spam
[11:38] {Threei} so it ain't so
[11:38] {Threei} say
[11:38] {dino} no, you are special, as you open them
[11:38] {Threei} my world is crashing
[11:38] {KSystems} LOL
[11:38] {Threei} lol
[11:39] {Threei} I am not listening to you all... next thing you try to tell me I don't get to obtain all those nice moneys from Nigeria
[11:39] {dino} getting rinsed all over, look uso, out at .98, goes .97 then .50
[11:40] {dino} same w/avav
[11:40] {dino} dino's getting mad (george on seinfeld)
[11:40] {Geo} uso gae a bap fill in morningeautifull g
[11:40] {KSystems} dino do you have fixed stops or are you setting them according to the chart?
[11:41] {Geo} lolol
[11:41] {Geo} USO gave a beautifull morning gap fill
[11:42] {dino} fixed
[11:42] {dino} tbsi gap fill
[11:43] {KSystems} i see..how much if I may ask?
[11:43] {KSystems} same for all lots?
[11:43] {dino} .28-.42 depending on stock personality and size
[11:43] {KSystems} k..thanks
[11:43] {dino} markets going for gap fill
[11:45] {Geo} dino pls help me out
[11:45] {Geo} what gap?
[11:45] {Geo} i am always confused about that
[11:46] {dino} ndx 1216 vs 1204, s&p886.9 vs 885
[11:46] {Geo} ok looking
[11:46] {dino} tbsi gap was 9
[11:47] {dino} drys is around 10.30
[11:47] {dino} and so on............................................
[11:47] {Geo} ok got it dino
[11:47] {Geo} thanks
[11:48] {lisa_jay} Dino how to look at gaps...yesterdays close or yesterdays high to todays open...or another way. Thanks.
[11:50] {dino} i look at close, but they don't always fill.
[11:50] {dino} just seem to be magnets during bigger moves
[11:50] {dino} ctrn fast fall
[11:54] {dino} watching afam, vz, hon, mcd
[11:54] {Threei} Short Setup: DRYS .19 half lot
[11:54] {Threei} if stays under .30
[11:57] {lisa_jay} Invalidated Vad?
[11:57] {Threei} yeah
[11:59] {Threei} GM
[11:59] {Threei} FITCH CUTS IDR TO C FROM CCC, NOTES THAT THE DOWNGRADE SIGNIFIES "IMMINENT DEFAULT"
[11:59] {dino} mwiv stop to .19 stuck
[11:59] {Threei} REP FRANK: PLANS TO INTRODUCE TARP LEGISLATION IN EARLY JANUARY, NOTES HE FAVORS THE WHITE HOUSE AUTO INDUSTRY LOAN DEALS
[11:59] {Threei} {GM F}
[12:02] {lisa_jay} Vad, DRYS is an inverse cup and handle?
[12:02] {Threei} yes
[12:03] {Threei} tough read though
[12:03] {Threei} jumps with no warning
[12:03] {lisa_jay} big red bar on nq helped it down
[12:04] {Threei} oh well
[12:08] {dino} mwiv stopped +.19 ave, whoo hoo
[12:09] {ese} outta here everyone....2 shows to do tady and then.............FREE for Chrstmas holidays....see ya monday.
[12:10] {Larisa1} bye ese
[12:10] {dino} cya es
[12:10] {Threei} take care ese
[12:15] {dino} vz l .47
[12:20] {Threei} Long Setup: RIMM 41.10 half lot if stays above 41
[12:23] {Threei} half out .19
[12:23] {Threei} UAW IS REQUESTING THAT PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA PLEDGE TO REMOVE CERTAIN CONDITIONS FROM THE AUTO INDUSTRY BAILOUT PACKAGE
[12:23] {Threei} {GM F}
[12:24] {Threei} but of course
[12:24] {KSystems} probably most importantly the ban of corporate jets
[12:24] {Threei} lol
[12:24] {lisa_jay} Missed the trade.
[12:25] {KSystems} RIMM 1/2 out .22
[12:27] {dino} no, the union keeps their planes
[12:28] {KSystems} :-)
[12:28] {Threei} out .32
[12:28] {KSystems} RIMM 1/2 more out .34
[12:28] {KSystems} 1/4
[12:29] {Geo} very nice vad
[12:29] {Threei} :)
[12:29] {KSystems} beauty vad
[12:29] {KSystems} :-*
[12:29] {Geo} was late
[12:29] {Threei} careful ks
[12:29] {Threei} don't call me beauty
[12:29] {Geo} no its beauty, vad
[12:29] {KSystems} out rest .28
[12:30] {Threei} 3 for 3... being picky pays off
[12:31] {Threei} - UAW says it believes the Bush Administration added "unfair conditions" to the package singling out union labor.
[12:32] {Threei} late? it retreated under the trigger after tyriggering
[12:32] {Threei} stop drinking so early geo
[12:32] {Threei} no one but dptl is allowed to do that
[12:33] {Geo} ahh come on\
[12:33] {Geo} spiked eggnog
[12:33] {Threei} and only because being sober he can't tell Buy from Sell
[12:34] {dptl} lol
[12:36] {dino} stopped vz .62, +.15
[12:36] {dino} brb
[12:36] {Threei} heh
[12:37] {Threei} TV asks
[12:37] {Threei} ok, loan, fine, but who will be buying those cars?
[12:37] {Threei} again, back to my suggestion of subsidizing buyers instead of pouring money directly into manufacturing?
[12:38] {Threei} wow RIMM
[12:41] {lisa_jay} Vad, do you manually scan for stocks like rimm, or did it come from filter...thanks.
[12:41] {Threei} this particular one was just from looking at usual suspects
[12:42] {Threei} as NASDAQ started showing signs of bottoming out, looked at the stock that traditionally follows to see if here is a play in it
[12:43] {lisa_jay} Ok, thank you.
[12:44] {lisa_jay} Also, do you prefer longer bases vs. shorter ones as a potential for reversal to upside..or am i just seeing things.
[12:44] {Threei} too general question lisa... sorry, can't answer like this
[12:45] {dino} snowfall at 7" so far
[12:45] {Threei} jeez
[12:45] {lisa_jay} just started for us.
[12:45] {wishbone} what were the signs nasdaq bottoming out vad?
[12:45] {dino} 1561
[12:45] {dino} :)
[12:47] {Threei} it formed something like double bottom at the moment wish... and if you observed the trading, it was just more willing on the upside
[12:47] {Threei} easier upticks, quite stubborn on downticks
[12:47] {Threei} general feeling of upward as part of least resistance was there
[12:47] {dino} for an up day, some pretty big losers out there
[12:48] {dino} the averages just don't reflect accurately whats going on anymore, imo
[12:48] {wishbone} ty vad
[12:50] {dino} hon l .15
[12:50] {wishbone} dino 1561, was that support from yesterday on nasdaq?
[12:51] {lisa_jay} 50% retracement of gap fill.
[12:52] {wishbone} ty lisa
[12:52] {lisa_jay} just guessing Wishbone...not sure.
[12:53] {dino} no was todays low turn, just messing w/ya
[12:53] {lisa_jay} Aw Dino, you made me go do all that work for an answer.
[12:53] {dino} sorry
[12:53] {lisa_jay} :-)
[12:56] {Threei} with any market help RIMM looks to break 42
[12:58] {Threei} break it did eh
[12:58] {lisa_jay} did you take the rimm trade vad?
[12:59] {Threei} yeah
[12:59] {lisa_jay} nice
[12:59] {Threei} out a bit too soon thouigh
[12:59] {Threei} .17
[12:59] {Geo} vad is sneaky
[12:59] {Geo} he didnt make it an OFFICIAL call
[12:59] {Geo} as he is keeping score
[12:59] {Threei} nope
[12:59] {Threei} wasn't really something I'd want to call
[13:00] {Geo} exactly
[13:00] {Geo} no blinking green
[13:00] {Threei} beyond what I consider average risk tolerance
[13:00] {Geo} i took it ..... was sittin from 30s
[13:00] {lisa_jay} nice
[13:00] {Threei} RIMM is way more tame than it used to be
[13:01] {Threei} but still far from fully domestic animal
[13:01] {Geo} what i am realizing is i do better on my own if i reduce my lot size and have wider stops
[13:01] {magoo} laser DCC
06[13:01] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large DCC
[13:01] {Geo} but i take vads his way
[13:01] {Geo} yeah i have memories of whippy rimm
[13:01] {lisa_jay} how different is the size Geo?
[13:02] {Geo} this time 300 only
[13:02] {Geo} see the pullbacks?
[13:02] {Threei} I don't remember myself trading 1000 shares of RIMM before today
[13:02] {Geo} i would be stressed more than that
[13:02] {Threei} today did it twice though
[13:02] {Geo} heheh me to
[13:02] {Geo} feels less whippy
[13:03] {lisa_jay} For such scary stocks (ATR of $4+), your stops are so tiny Vad. Amazing.
[13:03] {Geo} he is a virtuoso
[13:03] {Geo} in entries
[13:03] {Threei} and sucks badly in exits?
[13:03] {lisa_jay} GS yesterday had .20 stop and i only got 5c slippage.
[13:03] {Geo} exits as bit early
06[13:03] * Geo ducks
[13:04] {lisa_jay} Rimm today had 10c slippage.
[13:04] {lisa_jay} sorry 10c stop.
[13:04] {Geo} what????
[13:04] {Geo} ok phew
[13:04] {Geo} i would have said trash your platform
[13:04] {Threei} well, usually RIMM would still require wider stop
[13:04] {Threei} that specific entry just was structured this way
[13:05] {Threei} there was very pronounced support at 41,
[13:05] {Threei} actual long trigger was .15
[13:05] {Threei} but with NASDAQ strengthening, I prefered .10 which was touched once before
[13:06] {Threei} considering that if NASDAQ moves, both will work, .10 and .15
[13:06] {Threei} and if NASDAQ fails, both will fail
[13:06] {Threei} so why not save ourselves 5 cents
[13:06] {Threei} so... a bit on aggressive side which allowed for such tight stop
[13:07] {lisa_jay} Ok, thanks.
[13:07] {Threei} and it took me 10 times as long to type it as it took to decide on that, lol
[13:07] {Geo} you need a mike vad
[13:07] {Threei} I have a mike
[13:07] {Geo} well elarn to understand your accent
[13:07] {lisa_jay} You GG lesson from last week in play here on Rimm, bounce off 42.
[13:08] {Threei} yup, worked too
[13:10] {Threei} battale with union on Canadian side now
[13:11] {Threei} CAW says it cannot give up any of labor costs
[13:11] {Threei} govt says, then big 3 pack and move south
[13:11] {Threei} sigh
[13:12] {Threei} all costs added, comes to $75/h
[13:12] {Threei} over $30 difference vs japanese carmakers
[13:12] {Threei} union says, nah, we are not the problem
[13:13] {Threei} what's with suicidal instincts...
[13:16] {Larisa1} Better to die standing, than to live on your knees
[13:16] {dino} better to rule in hell
[13:17] {dino} than serve in heaven
[13:17] {Threei} to polish it off:
[13:17] {Threei} better to be healthy and wealthy than sick and at war
[13:18] {Larisa1} but again, man who said it died in his 30s i think. was revolutioner
[13:24] {Threei} 42 break again long trigger RIMM
[13:24] {Threei} if holding 41.90
[13:26] {Threei} Toyota will report its first annual loss in 71 years
[13:28] {Geo} in rimm
[13:29] {Threei} on the way back?
[13:29] {Geo} nope on brea :(
[13:29] {Geo} k
[13:30] {Threei} 1:1
[13:30] {Threei} 1:2, out
[13:31] {jmb} Thanks
[13:31] {Threei} 4 for 4
[13:31] {Threei} jmb :)
[13:31] {dawg} out 1:2 thanks Vad
[13:31] {Threei} dawg :)
[13:31] {Geo} nice vad
[13:31] {Geo} ty
[13:31] {Threei} yw
[13:32] {dino} avav sm l .45 stop lod
[13:36] {Geo} anyone still in investor mode in rimm?
[13:36] {Geo} vad we did rather good for a quad witching today
[13:36] {Threei} no kidding
[13:39] {Geo} ddc pls vad
[13:39] {Geo} dcc
[13:49] {dino} out avav .84, +.39
[13:49] {Threei} wtg
[13:49] {dino} ty
[13:49] {Geo} so i have an article on P#$# industry bailout
[13:50] {Geo} anyone wants me to post link?
[13:50] {Geo} what the heck......
[13:50] {Geo} http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/12/19/bailing-out-the-porn-industry/
[13:50] {Geo} dont kick me vad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:50] {Geo} its christmas forgiveness time
[13:51] {Threei} depends on article's quality
[13:51] {Geo} tounge in cheek funny
[13:51] {Geo} i had to post
[13:51] {Geo} afterall its my neighbourhood
[13:53] {Threei} ok, this may be not funny, but RIMM the same setup again
[13:54] {Threei} 1:1
[13:55] {lisa_jay} sigh, 3 setups missed.
[13:55] {Larisa1} funny Geo :) and correlates very well with vad's earlier outburst :)
[13:55] {Threei} lisa... this one was considerably faster but two before were fine...
[13:56] {lisa_jay} My fault entirely Vad...was busy and had to restart trading application....kids and keyboards.
[13:56] {Threei} 1:2, out
[13:56] {lisa_jay} Nice trade
[13:57] {Geo} this att uverse is killing me
[13:57] {Threei} don't remember RIMM so obedient
[13:57] {Geo} i lost connection for exactly 5 mins
[13:57] {Geo} mirc on laptop
[13:57] {Geo} sigh
[13:58] {dawg} out another 1:2 thank you sir
[13:58] {Threei} welcome
[13:58] {magoo} in rimm
[13:58] {magoo} u out?
[13:58] {Threei} 5 for 5
[13:58] {dawg} right on!
[13:58] {jmb} Thanks
[13:58] {Threei} [13:56] {Threei} 1:2, out
[13:58] {magoo} where?
06[13:59] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large alphabet and instruction how to put letters together in words
[13:59] {Geo} thanks larisa....
[14:00] {Larisa1} ty for laugh
06[14:00] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large manuel on how to profit by not being able to read or follow proper instructions
[14:00] {magoo} out .28
[14:02] {Threei} (CA) CANADIAN PM PLANS TO ANNOUNCE CANADIAN AUTO INDUSTRY BAILOUT PACKAGE ON 12/20 AT 10:30AMET
[14:02] {Threei} {GM F}
[14:04] {magoo} vad, next pullbk Rimm..43 in the cards today
[14:05] {Threei} feels this way but it needs market to go back to its highs
[14:05] {Threei} Qs need to break 30.10
[14:05] {Threei} for RIMM to break 42.50
[14:11] {Threei} it's willing... just some help from market, and could do it easily
[14:11] {magoo} AAPL getting ready too
[14:11] {magoo} but RIMM is better choice
[14:14] {magoo} 2:15 daily crash here
[14:16] {Threei} .50 break coming with just a few Qs upticks
[14:17] {lisa_jay} Trade alert Vad?
[14:17] {Threei} beyond risky lisa
[14:17] {lisa_jay} Ok, thanks.
[14:17] {Threei} and totally market dependent
[14:21] {Threei} no help by market
[14:21] {magoo} 14:15] {magoo} 2:15 daily crash here
[14:21] {magoo} every freakin day
[14:22] {Threei} I don't know if you can call 10 cents drop Qs a crash, really :)
[14:23] {magoo} did i say it was done here}?
[14:33] {Threei} nice and easy RIMM
[14:34] {magoo} in rimm
[14:35] {Geo} man that was a costly shower
[14:36] {Threei} that wasn't a call geo
[14:36] {Geo} true
[14:36] {Threei} so you wouldn't have taken it anyway, you need those green blinking :)
[14:36] {Geo} a bit risky
[14:36] {magoo} it wasn"t??
[14:36] {Geo} indeed
[14:36] {magoo} im in
[14:36] {Geo} hehehe
[14:36] {Geo} maggo is a savant
[14:36] {Threei} you are in on your own greed magoo :)
[14:36] {magoo} out 80
[14:36] {magoo} TY for not calling it
[14:37] {Threei} I just provided running commentary
[14:37] {Threei} lol
[14:41] {Onix} ty Vad, i got 36c + 54c on my 200 in RIMM
[14:41] {Threei} wtg
[14:41] {Threei} I like this RIMM transformation
[14:42] {Threei} still wide enough to sizeable profits but way less volatile and way more manageable
[14:42] {Onix} yes, now i can also trade it a little
[14:42] {Threei} FED'S YELLEN: CLEAR AND STRONG COMMITMENTS ON POLICY ARE NEEDED WHEN RATES ARE NEAR ZERO
[14:43] {Threei} ummm... and when rates are at 10%, commitments can be muddy and fibble?
[14:44] {Onix} lol
[14:45] {Threei} RMBS?
[14:45] {cosmo} could she mean regime change?
[14:45] {cosmo} ...yellen
[14:46] {Threei} RMBS
[14:46] {Threei} HYNIX AND MICRON CONCEDE INFRINGEMENT IN RAMBUS PATENT SUIT
[14:46] {Threei} - Companies to argue that Rambus patents are not valid{MU}
[14:46] {Geo} man rimm is so benevolent today
[14:47] {magoo} if IF mkt powers up in crazy hour...44.50 today imo
[14:49] {Geo} in from .98
[14:49] {Geo} too half out at .19
[14:52] {Geo} out
[14:54] {Geo} its all vads fault........i might have to up daily
[14:55] {Threei} forgive me for spoiling you with profits
[14:55] {Geo} its just wrong i tell ya
[15:07] {Geo} .
[15:08] {Threei} sorry geo... I just shut up, no to spoil you more {G}
[15:08] {Geo} no no vad
[15:08] {Geo} resist temptation by giving in to it
[15:08] {Threei} that's what I did my entire life
[15:09] {Threei} I mean, there is temptation I wouldn't resist fiercely and wouldn't cave in
[15:11] {Geo} down day IMO
[15:12] {Threei} um, correction
[15:12] {Threei} there is NO temptation... etc
[15:13] {cosmo} too deep
[15:19] {Threei} then it's not me
[15:25] {magoo} RIMM held well
[15:26] {Threei} Blagoevich said he is innocent and will strangle anyone who thinks otherwise
[15:27] {cosmo} mkt seems to like that news
[15:28] {Larisa1} of course he is, just tried to find good job for his wife, no crime in it :)
[15:29] {Threei} OK, back to spam mail...
[15:30] {KSystems} who is blagoevich?
[15:30] {Threei} hwey, I can get diploma without actually attending college... wow, possibility are endless
[15:30] {Threei} sheesh, those europians
[15:31] {Threei} Illinois governor accused of trying to sell Obama's senate seat
[15:31] {KSystems} oh ok
[15:32] {KSystems} There are countries in which you can found an official university for a few thousand dollars...
[15:32] {KSystems} and give away degrees
[15:32] {Threei} also, I can buy some fake watch and, as email claims, stop being jealous of rich looking men
[15:33] {KSystems} do they have watches that make rich looking men jealous?
[15:35] {dino} no, just girls
[15:35] {Geo} we in anything?
[15:35] {Threei} in coma
[15:35] {Geo} of course
[15:35] {Geo} vad you should put a copyright sign next to that answer
[15:36] {Threei} in coma ® ©
[15:36] {Threei} one spam e-mail is very frustrating
[15:37] {Threei} it's in german I think
[15:37] {Threei} and I am dying to know wehat they told me
[15:37] {Geo} this hurts me
[15:37] {KSystems} what does it say?
06[15:37] * Geo puts anything vad says with the word spam in it on ignore
[15:37] {Threei} well, one word I understand
[15:38] {Threei} Haben Sie das Gefühl, dass Ihre Potenz waehrend des Sex nachlaesst? Kommen Sie zu frueh? Es lauft im Bett nicht mehr wie frueher?
[15:38] {Threei} Oder haetten Sie einfach gerne laengeren und intensiveren Sex?
[15:38] {Geo} lol
[15:38] {lisa_jay} Lisa covers her little kids eyes.
[15:38] {Threei} lol
[15:39] {KSystems} ummm
[15:39] {Threei} don't
[15:39] {Threei} lol
[15:39] {Larisa1} no need to translate, KS :)
[15:39] {KSystems} OK I will translate...skip that in the log :D
[15:39] {Threei} nah
[15:39] {Threei} don't bother
[15:40] {KSystems} :P
[15:40] {Threei} I understood words intensiveren and produkt
[15:40] {Geo} i get NO spam
[15:40] {Geo} and no i am not sharing my email with you vad
[15:41] {Threei} but then you forfeit all the nigerian money
[15:41] {Geo} hehe
[15:41] {lisa_jay} That's it Vad....next e-mail from me will contain a virus to crash your spam mail...or for good measure just crash all your e-mail system
[15:41] {Threei} oh great
[15:41] {Threei} last source of entertainment
[15:41] {Threei} (and nigerian money)
[15:42] {lisa_jay} Small loss.
[15:43] {Threei} don't say that... 8 millions from one e-mail, 20 from another, pretty soon we are talking real money
[15:43] {KSystems} hrmmmm please do us a favor then and call BEFORE you enter your orders. thanks.
[15:43] {Threei} ands apparently I am very popular over there... new and new people want to make me rich
[15:46] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE STATES LOAN AGREEMENTS WITH GM AND CHRYSLER HAVE BEEN SIGNED
[15:46] {Threei} {GM F}
[15:47] {cosmo} 'sound as a dollar'
[15:50] {dino} and all other creditors are f#cked
[15:51] {cosmo} even gold at some point...
[15:54] {Threei} OK guys
[15:54] {Threei} thank you all
[15:54] {Threei} great day, very decent week
[15:54] {magoo} TY vad..u hoit some BIG ones today boss
[15:55] {Threei} have a fantastic weekend
[15:55] {lisa_jay} Thanks Vad.
[15:55] {Larisa1} have a nice weekend everybody
[15:55] {Threei} stay warm
[15:55] {Threei} drive safely
[15:55] {dptl} have a good weekend all
[15:55] {Threei} see you all on Monday
[15:58] {dino} take care all
[15:58] {lisa_jay} you too Dino.
[15:58] {dawg} thanks everyone

Thursday, December 18, 2008

Dec 18 2008

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Not a very tradeable day, with multiple witching coming tomorrow. Some wins, some stops, overall a lot of quite discretionary trades so I'd imagine individual mileage will vary. A few winning ones made the day positive but they were so fast that not many could catch them in time. 

Session Time: Thu Dec 18 00:00:00 2008

[08:03] {magoo} morning
[08:06] {Threei}  Good morning
[08:06] {Threei}  look at DRYS mags
[08:07] {_elepet} good morning. did anyone hold drys overnight?
[08:08] {Threei}  I did, half lot
[08:12] {magoo} do i have too?
[08:12] {Threei}  no
[08:13] {magoo} u held? you dog
[08:13] {magoo} i felt 13
[08:13] {magoo} but no overnite
[08:13] {Threei}  I remember
[08:14] {Threei}  [15:51] {magoo} 13 vad
[08:14] {Threei}  [15:51] {Threei} not today
[08:18] {magoo} brb..coffee
[08:27] {magoo} whats with DVAX vad?
[08:29] {Threei}  12/17/08 06:45am [DVAX] Signs worldwide alliance deal with Glaxosmithkline; To receive $10M initial paymentmore.. - The companies have signed a worldwide strategic alliance to discover, develop and commercialize novel inhibitors of endosomal Toll-like Receptors (TLRs) for the treatment of immuno-inflammatory diseases. TLRs are key receptors of the innate immune system that can induce strong inflammatory responses. - Under the terms of the alliance, Dynavax will receive an initial payment of $10M for which GSK will receive an exclusive option over four programs targeting autoimmune and inflammatory diseases such as lupus, psoriasis, and rheumatoid arthritis. - Dynavax is to conduct research and early clinical development in up to four programs and is eligible to receive future potential development and commercialization milestones totaling approximately $200M per program. GSK can exercise its exclusive option to license each program upon achievement of proof-of-concept or earlier upon certain circumstances. After exercising its option, GSK will carry out further development and commercialization of these products. (related: GSK.UK )
[08:30] {Threei}  INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 554K V 558KE;
[08:30] {Threei}  CONTINUING CLAIMS: 4.384M V 4.375ME
[08:30] {Threei}  - prior jobless claims revised from 573K to 575K
[08:35] {magoo} vad..u think DRYS prints 14 pre mkt?
[08:36] {Threei}  shouldn't
[08:36] {Threei}  on a spike after opening or later in the day though, quite possible
[08:36] {magoo} u having scanner problems?
[08:36] {Threei}  no, looks fine
[08:37] {magoo} all my screens are blank except pre market {he he}
[08:37] {Threei}  sigh
[08:45] {Larisa1} morning guys 
[08:46] {Threei}  morning larisa
[08:46] {Larisa1} hi threei :)
[08:47] {magoo} morn larisa:)
[08:47] {Onix} Good morning all
[08:47] {Threei}  onix :)
[08:47] {Larisa1} magoo, onix :)
[08:49] {Raven}  morning all :)
[08:49] {magoo} onix:)
[08:49] {magoo} R
[08:49] {magoo} A
[08:49] {magoo} V
[08:49] {magoo} E
[08:49] {magoo} N
[08:49] {Threei}  raven :)
[08:49] {Raven}  oh my magooooooooooooo
[08:49] {Onix} hi raven
[08:50] {Larisa1} morning raven :)
[08:51] {Raven}  we're gonna get BIG snow tomorrow Larisa ... ugh
[08:52] {magoo} us too..12 inches
[08:52] {Larisa1} always ready, i am from up north Russia :)
[08:52] {Raven}  I'll send out 8 inches south to add to your 12, magoo
[08:53] {cosmo} i guess it missed sol.cal again ...sigh
[08:53] {cosmo} so.cal
[08:53] {Raven}  oh please cosmo :)
[08:53] {Larisa1} lol
[08:54] {cosmo} i keep hoping tho
[08:54] {cosmo} 1949 was the last good one i think
[08:54] {cosmo} or was it 1950...
[08:54] {Raven}  ohforgodssake
[08:55] {cosmo} i'll check with algore....brb
[08:55] {Raven}  lol
[08:56] {lisa_jay} Good morning.
[08:57] {Larisa1} gm lisa or jay :)
[08:57] {Onix} gm lisa
[08:57] {Threei}  cosmo, lisa :)
[08:58] {lisa_jay} Hi Larisa (or the 1), Onix
[08:58] {Larisa1} lol
[09:00] {Threei}  C
[09:00] {Threei}  REPORTEDLY, ACCORDING TO AN INTERNAL MEMO, CO. WILL EXPAND CREDIT TO CUSTOMERS WITH MULTI PRODUCT RELATIONSHIPS , AND CONTIUNE TO APPROVE SIGNIFICANT LENDING TO INSITUTIONAL CLIENTS
[09:00] {Threei}  - Co. has also formed a senior commitee to supervize administration of TARP funds
[09:01] {cosmo} MULTI PRODUCT RELATIONSHIPS?
[09:01] {ese} "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas"   sing it Bing baby......ohhhhh good morning everyone....
[09:01] {ese} got carried away there
[09:01] {Onix} about time i would say with C
[09:02] {Onix} hi ese
[09:02] {ese} onix
[09:02] {lisa_jay} Hi Ese.
[09:02] {ese} hey lisa
[09:02] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:02] {ese} haven't seen this much snow on our island for along time......since big blizzard in 96
[09:04] {cosmo} global warming it is....
[09:04] {Threei}  Gore
[09:04] {Threei}  face... in the snow...
[09:04] {Threei}  what's that bad boy?
[09:04] {cosmo} from the bottom up though
[09:04] {Threei}  whodunit?
[09:04] {cosmo} not top - down
[09:06] {cosmo} hot ocean bottom vents = hotter water = more clouds = more storms
[09:06] {dino} gm all
[09:07] {Geo} gm all
[09:07] {Onix} hi dino; geo
[09:07] {dawg} gm all
[09:07] {Onix} hi dawg
[09:07] {dawg} Hello Onix
[09:08] {ese} bstop UAUA 10.80......cheap gasoline....lots of planes flying maybe....
[09:09] {dino} auxl
[09:09] {cosmo} auxl with PFE
[09:10] {dino} ty
[09:10] {cosmo} # Auxilium Pharmaceuticals, Inc. and Pfizer Enter Agreement to Develop and Commercialize XIAFLEX(TM) in Europe Call scheduled for 8:00 am ET todayCCBN(Thu 8:00am)
[09:12] {dino} phase 3 completion
[09:12] {dptl} good morning all
[09:12] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:12] {Threei}  dawg :)
[09:13] {Onix} hi dp
[09:14] {dptl} :)
[09:14] {Threei}  guys, now or later in the day, plesase do this (warning: requires the skill of putting letters together so they form words and even sentences):
[09:14] {Threei}  go to our homepage, look for a banner and text in red letters for Bahamas conferencwe
[09:15] {Threei}  when you click on it, you'll be taken to survey, tis time in black letters
[09:15] {Threei}  they are to be combined into words again, challenging, I know
[09:16] {Threei}  read it, think, fill out the survey, consider coming
[09:16] {Onix} will give it a try
[09:16] {Threei}  please do
[09:16] {Threei}  if I could write it, you can read it!
[09:16] {Threei}  I have faith in you
[09:17] {Threei}  even in you magoo
[09:19] {Threei}  keeping an eye on DVAX to see if it's one hour wonder or has a chance to become one of those non-stop runners
[09:20] {Threei}  usual suspects too of course
[09:20] {ese} DRYS....Everyready Bunny......
[09:20] {Threei}  DRYS, UAUA
[09:20] {Threei}  yup
[09:21] {Threei}  DRYS has this manner to break premarket resistance and jump right our of the gate at the open
[09:21] {Threei}  13.50 is such resistance so far
[09:26] {Threei}  geo dino :0 sorry, missed your entrance earlier
[09:27] {dino} ?
[09:27] {magoo} vad, regarding your request...whatss a homepage?
[09:27] {Threei}  {--- crying
[09:27] {magoo} cant find it in laser {he he he}
[09:28] {Threei}  dino, could you just put your elbow in magoo's ribcage? I'll owe you eternal debt of gratityde
[09:28] {dino} np
[09:28] {Threei}  ty
[09:29] {Threei}  DRYS ebig offer taken in one swoop
[09:30] {Threei}  .63 break long half lot
[09:30] {magoo} in 
[09:31] {Threei}  stop under .40
[09:31] {ese} L UAUA avg price 10.85
[09:31] {magoo} wait 14.13
[09:33] {Threei}  too optimistic
[09:33] {Geo} rinse
[09:33] {Threei}  probably, but market sells off hard
[09:34] {magoo} pretty wippy
[09:36] {Threei}  UAUA is very strong
[09:37] {Threei}  DRYS is tired, needs solid pullback
[09:38] {magoo} i hit q's .19 lonmg
[09:40] {Threei}  you exited any of UAUA ese?
[09:41] {ese} not yet
[09:41] {Threei}  protect part... don't forget its nasty manner to drop like a stone when you least expect it
[09:42] {Threei}  LVS
[09:42] {Threei}  PRE-MARKET STRENGTH BEING ATTRIBUTED TO CHATTER ON EASING OF VISA RESTRICTIONS IN MACAU, REPORTEDLY EMANATING FROM A CREDIT SUISSE NOTE
[09:42] {ese} OK
[09:43] {Threei}  ok DRYS, this is more like it
[09:43] {Threei}  one more leg down
[09:43] {dino} just use mastercard
[09:43] {Threei}  keep half lot on it
[09:44] {Threei}  in
[09:44] {Threei}  stop under .60
[09:44] {Threei}  out .94
[09:44] {Threei}  +.30
[09:45] {ese} out UAUA .50 1800 shs +$1200.00   good enough for the day
[09:45] {Threei}  I'll say
[09:45] {Threei}  wtg
[09:45] {Threei}  go tell that principal off
[09:46] {dino} wow es!
[09:46] {patience} ese, very well done
[09:46] {ese} tks
[09:47] {ese} can into work today with real ego now!!!!
[09:47] {Threei}  isn't it amazing ese, how much money is available in incredibly short period of time in the market when you know what you are doing
[09:47] {ese} indeed....i'll say
[09:47] {Threei}  15 minutes of work
[09:48] {Threei}  if you can call it that
[09:49] {Threei}  closer to 13 - 13.10 now next bounce zone for DRYS
[09:50] {Threei}  in
[09:50] {lisa_jay} 12
[09:50] {Threei}  stop under 11.90
[09:50] {Threei}  12, sorry
[09:51] {Threei}  half out.19
[09:51] {Threei}  +.15
[09:51] {Threei}  offering balance .35
[09:51] {Threei}  stop just under 12
[09:51] {Threei}  out
[09:51] {Threei}  +.21
[09:51] {lisa_jay} nice
[09:52] {Threei}  raining money
[09:52] {Threei}  anyone caught it?
[09:52] {lisa_jay} nope
[09:53] {Onix} nope
[09:53] {Threei}  sleepyheads
[09:53] {ese} anyone DVAX
[09:53] {Onix} too fast for a
[09:53] {ese} in DVAX
[09:53] {Threei}  not me
[09:53] {Threei}  don't see a momo
[09:54] {ese} tks
[09:54] {Threei}  this kind of gappers need strong momentum or they wilt and die
[09:54] {lisa_jay} Look at Drys go.
[09:54] {Threei}  maybe comes later but for now it's a non-player
[09:54] {Threei}  yeah... whatever, this kind of dump is for quick scalps only
[09:54] {wishbone} momo? vad
[09:54] {Threei}  countertrend trading, you know
[09:55] {Threei}  traders slang momentum wish
[09:55] {wishbone} ty
[09:55] {Threei}  momo, aka mojo aka loco aka choochoo
[09:55] {lisa_jay} lol
[09:55] {Threei}  :)
[09:57] {Threei}  wow... oil is soo dead
[09:58] {cosmo} fossils....
[09:58] {Geo} heh
[09:58] {Threei} Long Setup:  INTC  .91 if stays above .85 for scalpers, .80 for daytraders
[09:59] {Onix} in .91
[09:59] {Threei}  according call for Qs is .13 long
[10:00] {Threei}  what the deuce?
[10:00] {Threei}  half out Qs who grabbed it
[10:01] {Onix} did not think to do q's
[10:04] {Threei}  what did prop the market like that?
[10:04] {Threei}  maybe this
[10:04] {Threei}  GMAC: ISSUES UPDATE ON DEBT SWAP - FILING
[10:04] {Threei}  - As of the end of the day on December 17, 2008, based on preliminary results of GMAC LLC’s separate private exchange offers and cash tender offers to purchase and/or exchange certain of its and its subsidiaries’ and Residential Capital, LLC’s outstanding notes and respectively), approximately $16.9B in aggregate principal amount (or 58%) of the outstanding GMAC old notes had been tendered in the GMAC offers and approximately $3.5B in aggregate principal amount (or 38%) of the outstanding ResCap old notes had been tendered in the ResCap offers.
[10:04] {Threei}  not sure
[10:04] {magoo} expiration volatility
[10:05] {dino} sm l xme .01
[10:07] {Threei}  Qs balance stop to under .20
[10:08] {dino} rimm sm l .95
[10:08] {magoo} was thinking q alot stronger than that./..oh well
[10:09] {lisa_jay} INTC stopped.
[10:12] {Geo} man intc
[10:12] {lisa_jay} rinso
[10:12] {Geo} still in
[10:13] {Geo} working on pru
[10:13] {Onix} stopped intc
[10:13] {magoo} u got a feel for PRU?
[10:13] {Geo} so scalp blindly with ES
[10:13] {Geo} momo only
[10:13] {Geo} so=no
[10:13] {Geo} came up on scanner
[10:14] {Geo} still in intc vad?
[10:15] {Threei}  half
[10:15] {Geo} ok me in full
[10:15] {Geo} didnt touch .77
[10:16] {Geo} might scratch half
[10:16] {Geo} dna and hans rocking
[10:18] {lisa_jay} Vad, when did you scratch half the INTC, thanks.
[10:19] {lisa_jay} or where.
[10:19] {Geo} sniff
06[10:19] * Geo thinks INTC heard .77
[10:20] {Threei}  .96 lisa
[10:20] {Threei}  but I was in aggressively
[10:20] {lisa_jay} Where did you enter?
[10:20] {Threei}  so my r/r was a bit different
[10:20] {Threei}  .88
[10:20] {dino} rimm stop to b/e
[10:20] {lisa_jay} Ok, thank you.
[10:20] {Threei}  and it was double lot
[10:21] {Threei}  so, somewhat different way to play vs traditional
[10:23] {dino} rimm stopped flat
[10:23] {peterg} I played it for nickels and made three of em, thanks dino
[10:25] {dino} lol you'te better than i, should've went size
[10:27] {magoo} man...look a Q minute chart..nutso
[10:29] {lisa_jay} r u in Magoo?
[10:29] {ese} Long APWR .75 agressive entry
[10:29] {magoo} yes
[10:29] {magoo} .19
[10:30] {dino} now rimm works
[10:30] {magoo} was expecting .55 area
[10:30] {magoo} no go yet
[10:30] {lisa_jay} Ok, thanks.
[10:30] {lisa_jay} How do you manage the q's trades...partial out or trail etc.  Thanks.
[10:31] {lisa_jay} When you have time.
[10:39] {dino} vz l .90
[10:40] {magoo} kickin Q in the behind with all i got
[10:41] {lisa_jay} .
[10:45] {Threei}  .35 break should do it magoo
[10:45] {magoo} give it a kick please..im exhausted
[10:45] {Geo} call vad?
[10:45] {Threei}  for a scalp if stays above .30
[10:46] {Chaeron} good morning all
[10:47] {lisa_jay} Hi Chaeron
[10:47] {Threei}  chaeron :)
[10:47] {magoo} C:)
[10:47] {Chaeron} Hi Lisa, 3i, magster
[10:48] {dino} cmtl sm l .80
[10:49] {lisa_jay} Vad, q's long trigger?
[10:49] {Threei}  .36... but nly if not losing .30 anymore
[10:50] {lisa_jay} Ok, thanks.
[10:56] {Onix} in q's .35
[10:57] {dino} out xme .42, +.41
[11:00] {lisa_jay} Stopped Q's.
[11:00] {Onix} stoped q's
[11:00] {Onix} & roped
[11:00] {Onix} & stopped
[11:01] {Chaeron} pru
[11:01] {magoo} mkt been disappointing so far 
[11:02] {magoo} should have easily broke into 50 area by now
[11:03] {magoo} drys collaspe was right up there with fall of roman empire
[11:03] {lisa_jay} Narrow range.
[11:03] {lisa_jay} R u out of the Q's Magoo?
[11:03] {magoo} in
[11:03] {magoo} .1`9
[11:03] {ese} out  APWR 6.00 +.22  on a lot and a 1/2
[11:03] {Threei}  leave market be for now guys
[11:04] {Threei}  meanignless jerking up and down
[11:04] {lisa_jay} Yeah.
[11:04] {Geo} still in intc and qs
[11:04] {Threei}  go to that link I gavew you earlier instead
[11:04] {Geo} no putting new on
[11:04] {dino} there goes 3i telling me what to do
[11:04] {Threei}  and let me know whatcha think
[11:04] {magoo} cant find LINK in summary bar???
[11:04] {Threei}  this is my favorite way to spend time dino...
[11:04] {Geo} who is bill carr?
[11:04] {dino} vz stop to .02
[11:05] {Geo} okkkkkkk
[11:05] {dino} out .07, +.17
[11:06] {Threei}  dino... wthg, and NOW you can go to that link {G}
[11:06] {dino} lol
[11:06] {magoo} i got an email on it
[11:07] {Threei}  good... I just thought you had my e-mails on autodelete
[11:07] {magoo} dino fixing coffee issue..pot stopped being hot
[11:07] {Threei}  which would only be fair since I do have yours on that feature
[11:07] {magoo} well...its content is blocked of course
[11:08] {Threei}  great... so you don't want to know what I have to say but want to enjoy the very fact that I am trying to say something {VBG}
[11:08] {magoo} vbg=?
[11:08] {Threei}  very big grin
[11:09] {patience} if i sign up for the seminar, does it include a pool boy?
[11:09] {Threei}  for extra fee I'd assume
[11:09] {Geo} okkk save Q for pm
[11:09] {Chaeron} I can bartend and wait on tables patience...
[11:09] {Geo} finally stopped in Q
[11:09] {patience} ok Chaeron, let's be roomies
[11:10] {Chaeron} but just for you Lisa, Larisa and elepet
[11:10] {Chaeron} Patience - you just like me for my bartending skills :)
[11:11] {Threei}  btw, matching singles will be offered (not in a marrital sense, rather in room-sharing context)
[11:11] {magoo} co-ed ??
[11:11] {patience} you just pop the cork for me Chaeron and we'll both be happy
[11:12] {Geo} hmmmmmmmm
[11:12] {Chaeron} PE Obama finished talking... new SEC head (Deb Shapiro)
[11:12] {dino} swingers?
[11:12] {Chaeron} *blushing*
[11:12] {magoo} like in larisa and magoo??
[11:12] {Geo} i dont know what to say dino
[11:12] {dino} lol
[11:12] {Chaeron} you're lucky she's not here magoo... lol
[11:13] {Threei}  don't forget about replay feature though
[11:15] {Geo} out intc
[11:15] {magoo} out Q btw
[11:15] {magoo} bummer
[11:15] {lisa_jay} Where did you get out Magoo?  Thanks.
[11:15] {magoo} .29
[11:15] {magoo} i was in much lower than u
[11:16] {lisa_jay} Ok, thanks.
[11:16] {magoo} what i do is watch Q...wait for extreee move...then hit it 2k ..keep dime stop ..and if FEELS like runner..try to let it run
[11:17] {magoo} could have scalped it better but was looking for a move
[11:17] {magoo} let winner win concept
[11:18] {magoo} i was waiting out there at .54
[11:18] {lisa_jay} I was watching it at .18 when it broke the trendline...thought it would go but hesitated.  Too many times burnt.
[11:18] {magoo} but no go
[11:18] {Threei}  which is being overcome by the concept of whack-a-mole today
[11:18] {dino} good game
[11:19] {ese} god market call Vad.....as they all dive abit in unison
[11:19] {Geo} i suck today
[11:19] {ese} good market call
[11:19] {Geo} dug a nice hole
[11:20] {lisa_jay} Sorry to hear that Geo.
[11:22] {dino} the days not over geo
[11:22] {magoo} cramere fault..god dam giddy on site callying  rally
[11:22] {magoo} we closed down 100 yester
[11:22] {magoo} down now..hes screaming rally
[11:23] {dino} as vad would say, "some days you eat the russian bear, some days it eats you"
[11:23] {Geo} lol
[11:23] {Threei}  lol
[11:23] {Threei}  snow in LV?
[11:23] {Chaeron} yep :)
[11:23] {Threei}  sigh
[11:24] {patience} here comes another al gore comment
[11:24] {patience} oh, don't disappoint vad
[11:24] {magoo} just rewmember this ......early bird gets the worm...BUT the second mouse gets the cheese
[11:27] {dino} magoo, forever the "deep" thinker
[11:27] {Geo} :)
[11:29] {dino} tleo
[11:30] {dino} tleo sm s .72
[11:30] {lisa_jay} Magoo, for theory would you consider getting long Q's here?
[11:32] {magoo} no
[11:32] {magoo} but closer to 30 maybe 
[11:32] {magoo} unless........AAPL took off upward than yes
[11:33] {magoo} vad..any read GS?
[11:33] {lisa_jay} Thanks Magoo.
[11:34] {magoo} keep eye on aapl
[11:34] {Threei}  can't really make a choice between breakdown and violent bounce mags
[11:34] {Threei}  my feeling is bounce
[11:34] {Threei}  but I wouldn't call it
[11:34] {magoo} GS or mkt?
[11:34] {Threei}  just too risky
[11:34] {Threei}  GS
[11:35] {magoo} shit i took .60 
[11:35] {Threei}  long?
[11:35] {magoo} yes
[11:35] {Threei}  so what's your problem
[11:35] {magoo} u skerrin me
[11:35] {Threei}  in direction of my feeling, very close to day low
[11:36] {Threei}  if GS itself doesn't skerr you enough, nothing and no one will...
[11:36] {dino} breakdown gut says
[11:37] {dino} tleo bstop is .03
[11:39] {dino} maybe gut wrong
[11:42] {dino} tleo stopped -.31
[11:43] {dino} tbt l .39
[11:43] {Threei}  so far so good
[11:44] {Threei}  half out mags?
[11:44] {Threei}  you have almost 1:4
[11:44] {lisa_jay} wow.
[11:45] {Threei}  mags
[11:45] {Threei}  MAGS!!!!!
[11:45] {magoo} .
06[11:45] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large heavy manual on risk control
[11:47] {Threei}  sigh
[11:47] {Threei}  whatever
[11:47] {Threei}  chaeron, look dcc please
[11:47] {Chaeron} am I in trouble?
[11:48] {dino} xme l .98
[11:49] {magoo} ok out .30 here
[11:49] {magoo} WHATUTALKINBOUT WILLIS?
[11:50] {magoo} +70
[11:50] {magoo} cents
[11:50] {lisa_jay} nice
[11:51] {magoo} lisa, just be carefyul with my calls..u gotta be religious with stops ok?
[11:51] {magoo} as a genral rule, $200 bux max stop loss
[11:51] {lisa_jay} sure magoo, thanks.
[11:51] {magoo} but see, i let that winner "win" 
[11:52] {magoo} i think its got alot more
[11:52] {magoo} but its a hard breather
[11:52] {magoo} u know what that is?
[11:53] {Threei}  yeah... a guy who tried to run by me at the lake loop recently... even his dog was ashamed of him
[11:53] {lisa_jay} Yeah, pulls back more then usual.
[11:54] {magoo} correct..good
[11:54] {magoo} u wanna room together he he
[11:54] {dino} was thinking magoo when he walks up the steps in office
[11:54] {Geo} lol
[11:54] {lisa_jay} Ahem, you have me confused with Larissa...its LISA.
[11:54] {Threei}  (thank goodness I got it wrong)
[11:55] {lisa_jay} lol
[11:55] {magoo} oh oh..just dont tell her ok lol
[11:55] {Threei}  lisa... I don't think such subtleties as name mean much for magoo
[11:55] {lisa_jay} Actually i'm just a couple of hours away from you 
[11:56] {magoo} vad, we gonna have internet access in bahamas so we can work each day?
[11:56] {Threei}  gosh...
[11:56] {magoo} where u at lisa?
[11:56] {lisa_jay} Connect.
[11:57] {Threei}  I intend to visit other speaker's, then speak myself for half of the day... more work??
[11:57] {magoo} oh oh 
[11:57] {magoo} i would need to trade from 8 a.m till 4 pm everyday
[11:58] {magoo} ok lisa..look AAPL look Q
[12:00] {lisa_jay} Yeah, took Q's long at .24
[12:01] {lisa_jay} I am using NQ and Q's, will need to add AAPL and GS too.
[12:01] {magoo} nice
[12:04] {Chaeron} crude was at $38/bbl? wow vad... I remember you said 40 about 4 months ago, or do I dream about this room when I sleep?
[12:05] {Threei}  no... that was for real
[12:06] {Threei}  watch GS for bounce off .30 roughly
[12:07] {dino} 1990 highs crude, 1st gulf war
[12:07] {Threei}  missed GS
[12:07] {Threei}  expected one more quick leg down
[12:11] {ese} gone for a few minutes am back
[12:12] {ese} did i miss anything
[12:12] {ese} other than intelligent conversation
[12:12] {Threei}  not really, except magoos 70 cents pl;ay
[12:12] {dino} everything
[12:12] {lisa_jay} come on q's beak .35
[12:12] {Threei}  and suggestion that we are capable of intelligent conversation is almost insulting
[12:13] {ese} ooooopps!!!!!  will never let that happen again
[12:13] {magoo} Q gonna go here imo
[12:14] {lisa_jay} Got out 2/3rds at .10 profit...trailing rest.
[12:14] {Threei}  good job
[12:14] {lisa_jay} my first, thanks Vad
[12:14] {Threei}  making money for that bahamas trip I see
[12:15] {lisa_jay} :-)
[12:15] {Threei}  tax deductible vacation with learning opportunity on top... impossible to ignore
[12:15] {lisa_jay} My family does not pay any taxes.
[12:16] {dino} lucky
06[12:16] * Threei wats to be a part of lisa's family
[12:16] {magoo} hows that?
[12:16] {lisa_jay} poor
[12:16] {lisa_jay} no income
[12:16] {Chaeron} roflol
[12:16] {Chaeron} not at you lisa... at 3i
[12:17] {lisa_jay} we laugh too at ourselves...
06[12:17] * Threei makes amental note to see to it thatChaeron has a room next to kitchen and with no windows
[12:18] {Threei}  .20 break GS, small shares
[12:18] {Threei}  if stays above 80
[12:19] {magoo} in
[12:20] {magoo} out there .51
[12:20] {Threei}  HEARING DB SAYS GM WILL NOT FILE FOR BANKRUPTCY, CONTRARY TO SOME SPECULATION THAT HAS BEEN CIRCULATING
[12:22] {dino} out tbt .62, +.23
[12:22] {lisa_jay} Stopped GS.
[12:23] {lisa_jay} Stopped flat on last portion onQ's
[12:24] {Geo} hmm magoo my chart didnt go to .51 in GS
[12:24] {Geo} spike magoo?
[12:25] {magoo} no..i was waiting out there
[12:25] {Geo} wierd
[12:25] {Geo} not on my charts
[12:25] {Geo} nice
[12:25] {magoo} dude
[12:25] {magoo} i place offers out ahead..no fill
[12:26] {Threei}  it topped at .39, almost 1;1
[12:26] {Threei}  your chart is right geo
[12:26] {Geo} bad fill?
[12:26] {Geo} i mean good fill?
[12:26] {Threei}  lol
[12:26] {magoo} no fill..vad help me
[12:26] {Threei}  magoo... slap him
[12:26] {Geo} ahhhhhhhhhhhh
06[12:27] * dptl slaps Geo around a bit with a large trout
[12:27] {Threei}  lol
[12:27] {Geo} i took out there .51 to mean OUT
06[12:27] * Geo pleads english as non primary language
[12:28] {Geo} now you know how vad feels magoo !!!!
[12:28] {Threei}  oh I feel fine
[12:29] {Threei}  I don't understand any of what you are saying, and happy
[12:29] {magoo} your pushing your luck little man {soup nazi to costanza}
[12:40] {dino} wow don't know how it happened but cmtl just took me out at 47.20, +.40
[12:41] {Onix} gj
[12:41] {dino} lucky
[12:41] {Threei}  sheesh... lol
[12:42] {dino} cracking me up
[12:44] {Threei}  speaking of momo or lack thereof
[12:44] {Threei}  look at DVAX
[12:45] {dino} t l .35, stop lod
[12:47] {KSystems} back
[12:47] {KSystems} Hello everybody
[12:47] {Threei}  hey KS
[12:48] {dino} hey k
[12:48] {KSystems} anyone claiming daytrading is stressful should go shopping with me
[12:48] {Threei}  lol
[12:49] {Threei}  shopping for illicit drugs is rarely relaxing ks... sorry for not warning you
[12:49] {Threei}  wow... GM goes down the drain
[12:50] {ese} have a great rest of the day all.....outta here until tomorow.
[12:50] {Threei}  take care ese
[12:50] {ese} see ya vad
[12:53] {Threei}  snow in Malibu?
[12:53] {Threei}  wtf is going on
[12:53] {Chaeron} your buddy al gore global warming
[12:53] {Onix} global warming?
[12:54] {Chaeron} lol
[12:54] {Chaeron} give me a break :)
[12:54] {Threei}  looking at LV images on TV
[12:54] {Threei}  I can't believe it
[12:54] {Threei}  3 inches
[12:55] {Raven}  cosmo prolly drove up there, stripped off his clothes, and rolled in it
[12:55] {magoo} in vegas..thats just a cocaine delivery which fell out of a cargo plane hold
[12:56] {Threei}  but... Nobel prize AND Oscar winner can't be wrong... right? right?
[12:56] {Onix} no way
[12:56] {Threei}  Raven... my retina's burned by just mental image
[12:57] {Raven}  it would be an awesome sight
[12:57] {Threei}  shock and awe?
[12:57] {Chaeron} }{
[12:57] {Raven}  yessssssssss
[12:58] {Threei}  as I was told yesterday when expressed my politically incorrect opinion (as if I have any others),
[12:58] {Threei}  global warming does not necessary mean warmer, it means more violent
[12:58] {Threei}  si I suggested to call it global violence
[12:59] {Chaeron} anything to make their views fit, eh?
[12:59] {dino} cycles, its all cycle
[13:02] {Chaeron} I just have one question... if they know so much about weather, why is the supposed hurricane on the cover of gore's movie spinning the wrong way? hmmm? I'm the only one that's noticed
[13:03] {Geo} lol
[13:03] {Chaeron} think about it..
[13:03] {Threei}  chaeron... it's simple
[13:03] {Threei}  it signifies things going so wrong that even hurricanes start spinning wrong direction
[13:04] {Chaeron} you should be a polititian
[13:04] {Threei}  and world becoming so warmed up that it starts freezing over
[13:05] {Chaeron} ahhh so it's cirular... not linear
[13:05] {Chaeron} circular
[13:05] {Threei}  economy becoming so bad that killing autoindustry makes it better
[13:05] {lisa_jay} Q's Coiling.
[13:05] {Geo} ummmmm....... trading slow?
[13:05] {Threei}  banks becoming so poor that bonuses for the executives must be increased
[13:05] {Threei}  see? it all fits
[13:06] {Chaeron} so Lisa's family is really rich?
[13:06] {Onix} Oh, now I understand!
[13:06] {lisa_jay} What?  
[13:07] {Chaeron} does it work so that I'm really good looking too???
[13:07] {Geo} i thought all people in south bay were beautifull
[13:08] {lisa_jay} Chaeron, we dont care how you look, we love you anyway.
[13:08] {Threei}  there are limits to what's possible, chaeron... sorry
06[13:08] * Chaeron is blushing again..
[13:08] {Chaeron} Threei - so I defy physics?
[13:08] {Threei}  if lisa says so...
[13:09] {Raven}  {-------- circling Chaeron
06[13:09] * Chaeron slaps Raven around a bit with a large trout
[13:09] {Raven}  oops
[13:09] {Raven}  gotta climb higher
[13:09] {Chaeron} First strike Raven... no warning... learn it... oh... and Merry Christmas :)
[13:09] {Raven}  MC and HNY
[13:13] {Threei}  haven't seen DRYS this tame in quite a while
[13:13] {magoo} my scanner iusnt even moving
[13:14] {Threei}  it's not supposed to mags...
[13:14] {Threei}  mine always stays on the monitor I open it in
[13:14] {lisa_jay} lol
[13:14] {Threei}  hate it whenit starts crawling al over 4 monitors
[13:14] {Threei}  so I use nails now
[13:15] {magoo} 2 of my screens are completely white tho.....the post mkt scanners
[13:15] {Onix} lol
[13:15] {Chaeron} thought it was from your use of White Out
[13:15] {Threei}  just be careful when you nail it tomonitor
[13:16] {Threei}  make sure you put nail through the blue bar at the top of the window
[13:16] {Threei}  and not through scanner window... you may damage it otherwise
[13:16] {magoo} wheres the monitor????
[13:17] {magoo} l Q .24 here -n-now
[13:17] {Threei}  ummm... sorry, I have an answer to that but gals in the room prevent me from using it
[13:20] {lisa_jay} How many monitors do you have Magoo?
06[13:20] * Threei puts both hands over his mouth
[13:21] {magoo} i have 4 whatchamacallits and 2 computatars running them
[13:26] {Threei}  wow... market really learned finally how to stay still
[13:26] {Threei}  even morning moves were just 15 points range NQ
[13:26] {Threei}  let alone everything after that
[13:27] {Onix} and just when i am on holiday and can trade all day
[13:28] {Threei}  well... can change on a dime, and let's hope it does
[13:29] {Onix} yes, always hoping 
[13:29] {KSystems} yes, there was traders all around me in the mall ;)
[13:31] {Threei}  lol
[13:37] {Threei} Short Setup: QQQQ  .13 if stays below .20
06[13:37] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large 3i wallet
[13:40] {dino} nt stopped
[13:42] {Geo} in
[13:43] {lisa_jay} in .13
[13:43] {Onix} in q's .13
[13:44] {Threei}  can't understand why I haven't taken it aggressively under .20 when it bounced
[13:44] {Threei}  was ideal entry
[13:44] {Threei}  I must be sleeping
[13:44] {Threei}  wait... I am always sleeping when trading
06[13:44] * Geo slaps Threei around a bit with a large rooster
[13:44] {Onix} lol
[13:45] {lisa_jay} Targest for trade Vad?  Thanks.
[13:45] {Threei}  just a scalp most likely
[13:45] {Threei}  too narrow of a day
[13:46] {Threei}  if you feel serious breakdown coming, cover 2/3
[13:46] {Threei}  and try to give it a chance
[13:46] {Threei}  1:1
[13:47] {Threei}  cool beans
[13:47] {KSystems} 1/2 out .04
[13:47] {dptl} cover 30 ty
[13:47] {Onix} 2/5 out
[13:47] {lisa_jay} 2/3 out at .02 (10c).
[13:48] {Threei}  long wait was worth such safe one-way trade eh
[13:48] {dptl} pru covered +.29
[13:49] {Threei}  took some patience eh dino
[13:49] {Threei}  oops... dp
[13:49] {Threei}  sorry
[13:49] {dptl} yeah...want to be like Dino
[13:50] {Threei}  don't we all
[13:50] {Threei}  just think of his privilege to poke magoo in ribs with his elbow
[13:50] {Threei}  that alone is of weight of gold
[13:50] {dptl} lol
[13:52] {lisa_jay} .
[13:53] {Threei}  stop to .11
[13:54] {dino} careful what you wish
[13:57] {Threei}  CHRYSLER SPOKESPERSON: CHRYSLER AND GM ARE NOT HOLDING MERGER TALKS
[13:57] {Threei}  - Earlier this morning GM denies earlier press reports that GM is holding merger talks with Chrysler. Overnight the WSJ reported that the companies have reopened merger talks.
[13:57] {dino} joyg l .10, stop .98
[13:58] {Threei}  (US) FED'S FISHER: FED WILL NOT SHY AWAY FROM USING EVERY VIABLE MEASURE TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMY, NOTES THAT CONSUMPTION IS "CASCADING DOWNHILL" IN THE US
[13:58] {Threei}  - Believes unemployment may exceed 8%, sees US Q4 GDP contracting 4-5%. Further GDP contracting is likely in first half of 2009.
[13:58] {Threei}  - Fed will expand purchases of mortgage-backed securities, grow balance sheet if it determines the move would be productive
[13:58] {Threei}  - The Fed's actions have gained some traction, but there is a long way to go before the economy begins recovery.
[13:58] {Threei}  - Falling mortgage rates and LIBOR are signs that Fed policies are working.
[13:58] {dino} hmm read that wrong
[13:59] {dino} why can't they just shut up for a week
[14:02] {Threei}  good question
[14:02] {Threei}  especially with meaningless comments like:
[14:02] {Threei}  FED WILL NOT SHY AWAY FROM USING EVERY VIABLE MEASURE TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMY
[14:02] {Threei}  and here we sit thinking, gee, they have this viable option and know about it but shy away
[14:02] {Larisa1} lol
[14:03] {peterg} They have weapons of mass viability
[14:03] {Threei}  rofl
[14:04] {Threei}  and the next comment has extremely encouraging sentence at the end, read it:
[14:04] {Threei}  (US) FED'S FISHER: FED MUST DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PREVENT DEFLATION, AT SOME POINT THE FED WILL BE FORCED TO TIGHTEN RATES AND SHRINK BALANCE SHEET - Q&A
[14:04] {Threei}  - Notes that the Fed has an exit strategy in mind
[14:04] {Threei}  they got fake passports and tickets to some exotic locations?
[14:05] {dino} vz l .60, stop .48
[14:05] {Threei}  plastic surgeons stand ready?
[14:05] {dino} joyg stopped
[14:05] {Threei}  btw, Qs hit 1:2
[14:05] {Onix} agh
[14:05] {magoo} hit???
06[14:06] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large roll of cash
[14:06] {Threei}  good to know magoo has what to slap me with {G}
[14:07] {Threei}  ok, someone's promised to laugh at my not funny jokes...
[14:07] {lisa_jay} me?
[14:07] {Threei}  and I honestly think this one about feds exit strategy WAS funny!
[14:07] {magoo} i thought vbg earlier for you was very big GUT
[14:08] {Threei}  {--- deeply misunderstood and underappreciated
06[14:09] * Threei slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large list of occasions on which Chaeron failed to appreciate him
06[14:09] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large copy of the list
[14:09] {Chaeron} thank you... I appreciate that
[14:09] {Threei}  lol
[14:10] {Threei}  good one
[14:10] {magoo} oh oh vad..Larisa's back
[14:10] {Threei}  see? I am appreciative of good joke
[14:10] {Chaeron} :)
[14:10] {Threei}  that's your worry magoo... you have all the reasons to feel guilty
[14:11] {Threei}  me, I apologized to Larisa long ago for all my past sins and for all future should I ever commit them
[14:11] {lisa_jay} Magoo long Q's here?
[14:11] {Larisa1} magoo, push the market, you guys are too bored
[14:12] {magoo} if AAPL gets going lisa
[14:15] {dino} rinses, joyg, t
[14:19] {wishbone} can timestamp in mIRC be set to NY time?
[14:19] {Threei}  mine is
[14:19] {wishbone} how?
[14:19] {Threei}  it takes time from your computer clock
[14:19] {KSystems} out Qs 1/4 more .05
[14:19] {Threei}  I keep it on NY time
[14:20] {Threei}  here comes next Qs breakdown
[14:20] {wishbone} ok ty vad
[14:20] {lisa_jay} Wish i kept the last part of q's...
[14:20] {Threei}  over 1:2 now
[14:21] {dino} vz stopped -.12
[14:21] {Threei}  nice to take right side
[14:21] {Threei}  market makes money for you by itself
[14:22] {Threei}  where di you cover lisa?
[14:23] {Threei}  bidding last part .79
[14:23] {lisa_jay} .o3
[14:23] {Threei}  hmmm
[14:23] {Threei}  somewhat "not here not there"
[14:23] {lisa_jay} Got scared when it could not take out .96 and kept bouncing up.
[14:24] {Threei}  out in full
[14:24] {lisa_jay} nice.
[14:24] {Threei}  +.34
[14:24] {wishbone} laser stickies ayone?
[14:24] {Threei}  INET at .84 for Qs, yes
06[14:25] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large stuck quote for INET
[14:26] {Threei}  look how nicely Qs cascaded ever since our entry
[14:26] {KSystems} out last 1/4 Qs .85
[14:28] {Threei}  how nice this letter starts
[14:28] {Threei}  Dear One
[14:28] {Threei}  I foresee your surprise upon receiving this letter from a total stranger but plead for your tolerance, of not having the pleasure of knowing your mindset before sending you this letter but is for the betterment our both family future.
[14:28] {Threei}  I need to learn to speak like this
[14:28] {dino} ge capital dpwngraded by s&p
[14:29] {Threei}  magoo... not having the pleasure of knowing your mindset, I have no other option but to slap you silly for the betterment of our room
[14:30] {dino} mwiv sm l .12
[14:37] {Threei}  (US) FED CHAIRMAN BERNANKE: FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES ARE NEEDED FOR CREDIT CARD REGULATIONS
[14:38] {peterg} ok, benno, like what?
[14:38] {Threei}  like what?
[14:38] {peterg} great minds
[14:38] {Threei}  hehe
[14:38] {peterg} thinner, stronger plastic
[14:38] {peterg} bigger letters for older consumers
[14:38] {peterg} pastels
[14:39] {peterg} revolutionary new shape: round credit cards
[14:40] {Threei}  wow
[14:40] {dino} sm l afam .00
[14:40] {Threei}  I honestly don't know what is more scary - to leave this broken system as it is or to have these people talking about "fundamental change"
[14:44] {Chaeron} change is good
[14:44] {Chaeron} just ask any Cuban from 1960
[14:48] {Threei}  WSJ REPORTS OBAMA TEAM DEVELOPED STIMULUS PACKAGE
[14:51] {dino} purple pills
[14:52] {peterg} lol
[14:53] {dino} tbsi l .77, stop lod
[14:54] {cosmo} lsd, it seems to me
[14:58] {Threei}  Qs should give scalpable bounce from just under .90
[14:58] {lisa_jay} in from .90
[14:58] {Threei}  stop under .85
[15:00] {dino} tbsi stopped -.13
[15:01] {Threei}  strange moves
[15:01] {Onix} GE downgraded ... CNBC
[15:02] {Threei}  hour old news
[15:02] {Onix} Buffet having a hard time
[15:03] {lisa_jay} Stopped on Q's, took it before your call Vad.
[15:03] {dino} randon market moves whipping me out everywhere
[15:04] {lisa_jay} yup
[15:04] {lisa_jay} tomorrow's expiry.
[15:05] {Threei}  WSJ REPORTS PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA TEAM DEVELOPED STIMULUS PACKAGE OF $675-775B OVER 2 YEARS
[15:05] {Threei}  - says package could grow, could top out at $850B
[15:05] {Threei}  - Note: The high end was rumored to be $1T last weekend
[15:05] {dino} out in morning papers old
[15:05] {dino} and you tell me why bonds are rocling then, sheesh
[15:06] {Threei}  nothing is straightforward in this environemnt
[15:06] {wishbone} bonds are rocking dino?
[15:06] {dino} printing presses wide open bonds at all time highs
[15:06] {dino} tlt all time highs
[15:06] {dino} 20 year
[15:06] {Threei}  all the logical projections are being trashed
[15:07] {dino} tbt 2x short, collasped
[15:07] {Threei}  just thunk about half year - 9 months back,
[15:07] {Threei}  thnk
[15:07] {Threei}  thnk
[15:08] {Threei}  sheesh, I can't even type this word
[15:08] {dptl} think
[15:08] {Threei}  right
[15:08] {dptl} :)
[15:08] {cosmo} never
[15:08] {Threei}  how many of "normal" calculations about USD, gold, oil etc tunred out to be right?
[15:09] {Threei}  you know many experts who foresaw this USD rally and gold demise?
[15:10] {Threei}  new fators are being intorduced into play all the time
[15:10] {Threei}  factors
[15:10] {dino} oxy sm l .95
[15:11] {dino} everything i was taught is wrong
[15:13] {peterg} all your snakes are belong to us
[15:13] {peterg} (see youtube for further information)
[15:14] {Threei}  is it about damn snakes on the damn plane?
[15:14] {peterg} yessss
[15:14] {peterg} in part
[15:22] {Threei}  what's going on while I sleep?
[15:23] {lisa_jay} Dino's gut was right...selloff
[15:24] {Threei}  no seriously
[15:24] {Threei}  I don't see any news
[15:24] {Threei}  what happened?
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[15:26] {magoo} if AAPL gets going lisa
[15:26] {dino} rinses, joyg, t
[15:26] {wishbone} can timestamp in mIRC be set to NY time?
[15:26] {Threei}  mine is
[15:26] {wishbone} how?
[15:26] {Threei}  it takes time from your computer clock
[15:26] {KSystems} out Qs 1/4 more .05
[15:26] {Threei}  I keep it on NY time
[15:26] {Threei}  here comes next Qs breakdown
[15:26] {wishbone} ok ty vad
[15:26] {lisa_jay} Wish i kept the last part of q's...
[15:26] {Threei}  over 1:2 now
[15:26] {dino} vz stopped -.12
[15:26] {Threei}  nice to take right side
[15:26] {Threei}  market makes money for you by itself
[15:26] {Threei}  where di you cover lisa?
[15:26] {Threei}  bidding last part .79
[15:26] {lisa_jay} .o3
[15:26] {Threei}  hmmm
[15:26] {Threei}  somewhat ""not here not there""
[15:26] {lisa_jay} Got scared when it could not take out .96 and kept bouncing up.
[15:26] {Threei}  out in full
[15:26] {lisa_jay} nice.
[15:26] {Threei}  +.34
[15:26] {wishbone} laser stickies ayone?
[15:26] {Threei}  INET at .84 for Qs, yes
06[15:26] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large stuck quote for INET
[15:26] {Threei}  look how nicely Qs cascaded ever since our entry
[15:26] {KSystems} out last 1/4 Qs .85
[15:26] {Threei}  how nice this letter starts
[15:26] {Threei}  Dear One
[15:26] {Threei}  I foresee your surprise upon receiving this letter from a total stranger but plead for your tolerance, of not having the pleasure of knowing your mindset before sending you this letter but is for the betterment our both family future.
[15:26] {Threei}  I need to learn to speak like this
[15:26] {dino} ge capital dpwngraded by s&p
[15:26] {Threei}  magoo... not having the pleasure of knowing your mindset, I have no other option but to slap you silly for the betterment of our room
[15:26] {dino} mwiv sm l .12
[15:26] {Threei}  (US) FED CHAIRMAN BERNANKE: FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES ARE NEEDED FOR CREDIT CARD REGULATIONS
[15:26] {peterg} ok, benno, like what?
[15:26] {Threei}  like what?
[15:26] {peterg} great minds
[15:26] {Threei}  hehe
[15:26] {peterg} thinner, stronger plastic
[15:26] {peterg} bigger letters for older consumers
[15:26] {peterg} pastels
[15:26] {peterg} revolutionary new shape: round credit cards
[15:26] {Threei}  wow
[15:26] {dino} sm l afam .00
[15:26] {Threei}  I honestly don't know what is more scary - to leave this broken system as it is or to have these people talking about ""fundamental change""
[15:26] {Chaeron} change is good
[15:26] {Chaeron} just ask any Cuban from 1960
[15:26] {Threei}  WSJ REPORTS OBAMA TEAM DEVELOPED STIMULUS PACKAGE
[15:26] {dino} purple pills
[15:26] {peterg} lol
[15:26] {dino} tbsi l .77, stop lod
[15:26] {cosmo} lsd, it seems to me
[15:26] {Threei}  Qs should give scalpable bounce from just under .90
[15:26] {lisa_jay} in from .90
[15:26] {Threei}  stop under .85
[15:26] {dino} tbsi stopped -.13
[15:26] {Threei}  strange moves
[15:26] {Onix} GE downgraded ... CNBC
[15:26] {Threei}  hour old news
[15:26] {Onix} Buffet having a hard time
[15:26] {lisa_jay} Stopped on Q's, took it before your call Vad.
[15:26] {dino} randon market moves whipping me out everywhere
[15:26] {lisa_jay} yup
[15:26] {lisa_jay} tomorrow's expiry.
[15:26] {Threei}  WSJ REPORTS PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA TEAM DEVELOPED STIMULUS PACKAGE OF $675-775B OVER 2 YEARS
[15:26] {Threei}  - says package could grow, could top out at $850B
[15:26] {Threei}  - Note: The high end was rumored to be $1T last weekend
[15:26] {dino} out in morning papers old
[15:26] {dino} and you tell me why bonds are rocling then, sheesh
[15:26] {Threei}  nothing is straightforward in this environemnt
[15:26] {wishbone} bonds are rocking dino?
[15:26] {dino} printing presses wide open bonds at all time highs
[15:26] {dino} tlt all time highs
[15:26] {dino} 20 year
[15:26] {Threei}  all the logical projections are being trashed
[15:26] {dino} tbt 2x short, collasped
[15:26] {Threei}  just thunk about half year - 9 months back,
[15:26] {Threei}  thnk
[15:26] {Threei}  thnk
[15:26] {Threei}  sheesh, I can't even type this word
[15:26] {dptl} think
[15:26] {Threei}  right
[15:26] {dptl} :)
[15:26] {cosmo} never
[15:26] {Threei}  how many of ""normal"" calculations about USD, gold, oil etc tunred out to be right?
[15:26] {Threei}  you know many experts who foresaw this USD rally and gold demise?
[15:26] {Threei}  new fators are being intorduced into play all the time
[15:26] {Threei}  factors
[15:26] {dino} oxy sm l .95
[15:26] {dino} everything i was taught is wrong
[15:26] {peterg} all your snakes are belong to us
[15:26] {peterg} (see youtube for further information)
[15:26] {Threei}  is it about damn snakes on the damn plane?
[15:26] {peterg} yessss
[15:26] {peterg} in part
[15:26] {Threei}  what's going on while I sleep?
[15:26] {lisa_jay} Dino's gut was right...selloff
[15:26] {peterg} hamsters again
[15:26] {peterg} snakes  got to thm
[15:27] {Threei}  sigh
[15:30] {dino} 1181 ndx gap from monday
[15:31] {dino} 868 s&p, dji filled
[15:41] {dino} out oxy .20, bad trade
[15:41] {dino} +.25\
[15:48] {lisa_jay} .
[15:51] {Threei}  really strange day
[15:51] {patience} quad witching tomorrow
[15:51] {lisa_jay} And i traded with size :-)  Murphy's law.
[15:52] {Threei}  yeah
[15:52] {Threei}  you did some good ones
[15:52] {lisa_jay} Following the rules / plan and trying not to freak out.
[15:53] {Threei}  well, freaking out is allowed
[15:54] {Threei}  right after trade is overt
[15:54] {Threei}  over
[15:55] {lisa_jay} Took a lot of stops but all under control...nothing that a good winning scalp cant wipe out tomorrow.
[15:56] {dino} gj lisa, afternoon was tough
[15:57] {lisa_jay} thanks Dino
[15:57] {Threei}  Ok guys, thank you all
[15:58] {Threei}  nmore weirdness tomorrow I guess
[15:58] {Threei}  will be restrained and picky
[15:58] {Threei}  have a good evening, see you in the morning
[15:58] {lisa_jay} Thanks Vad.
[15:58] {KSystems} Thank you 
[15:58] {Larisa1} see you
[15:58] {KSystems} and take care :)
[15:58] {dawg} thanks all
[15:58] {dptl} have a good evening all
[15:59] {lisa_jay} Hey Dawg...how was your day?
[15:59] {lisa_jay} DCC if possible.
[16:00] {dino} out mwiv .95-.17
[16:01] {dawg} so so Lisa still working with Laser it's awesome
[16:02] {lisa_jay} Yeah, so i have heard.
[16:02] {lisa_jay} You taking only Vad's calls 
[16:03] {dino} well, only a 340+ pt range today
[16:03] {dawg} not all of them went off on my own today and blew a couple of stops
[16:04] {dawg} trying to learn to set mental stops and I am down 40 bucks for the day
[16:04] {dino} not bad dawg, tough day.
[16:04] {lisa_jay} are you trading full size?
[16:04] {dino} you beat me
[16:05] {dawg} thanks dino but not in your league obviously
[16:05] {lisa_jay} Longs and shorts had it tough.
[16:05] {dino} rimm all over
[16:06] {dawg} no I am trading 200 on vads calls