Saturday, April 13, 2013

Nemo's Findings week of 4/14/2013

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Well my thesis of this continuing onward and upward at least until earnings shows it hand, is still in tact.   Now, whether it's true or not...

SO.....the week that was:


 

I included back to the 5th to show the beginning of this most recent leg-up and how for the most part it's just been walking up a trend line.  Whereas the last two weeks we finished below the weekly pivots, we knew that couldn't last.  IWM was hemmed in by the Weekly R1.  The SPY got hung up on a fibonacci extension I'm tracking and finished the week on the Weekly R2 to the penny.  The finnies finished the week basically oscillating around  yesterday's pivot, touching support at the swing high of 3/15-old resistance becomes new support.  The VXX finished at the monthly S1-there is no fear in this market (repeat after me).   The central banks will keep printing.  As a matter of fact, they likely can't stop printing....ever.

Regarding earnings...so far they haven't been stellar.  I'm not tracking stats per se, but not hearing alot good so far, and of course it is early, but the market isn't selling and as I said...no fear.   BIG pomo day on Monday, big two weeks in earnings coming up, so unless N Korea does something drastic, no reason not to expect new highs on Monday. Oh, call me paranoid, but keep your accounts small...Cypress was the beginning.



Anyway, the week that is:










 


Confirmation Bias...I've been seeing a bit written about that lately, which made me think of something I have written for the next book on which I am working. Well the second next book on which I am working, the first next book is much further along, and a bit more esoteric....but, I digress. So, in killing two birds with one stone (maybe 3 actually)  I get to: 1. stroke my ego, 2. Provide a very old, eastern view on confirmation bias, and 3....well, maybe it was just two.

Anyway, some of you may know that I have a formal, lineage background in the Taoist disciplines-20+ years of continuing study under a master.  The following, as it stands will be the first  chapter in the logical follow-up to Essence of Tao,  and it's brother text Truth of Tao.  

I realize it says "81" at the top, but just go with it.  Now, this chapter is a larger look at confirmation bias in life, and literally how it has played out even in the translations of The Tao Te Ching.   Because it is of a philosophical nature, the discourse can be a bit on the academically dense side.  Of course, "dense" is a commonly applied adjective to describe me, and I'm not sure it's meant in a flattering light.

By the way,  Vad's course A Taoist Trader  is based on the aforementioned texts.  He didn't just go off and make it up as he went along because he liked the material he read.  I spent many an hour busting his balls about it all along the way so that he understood the source material around which he developed the course...now THAT, was fun  ;-).

One more thing, you will notice that I talk about verse 5 in the following text.  When you read that verse, think of which translation most represents the environment in which a trader operates... ;-)



81. 
True words are not fine-sounding;
   Fine-sounding words are not true.
A good man does not argue;
   he who argues is not a good man.
the wise one does not know many things;
   He who knows many things is not wise.
The Sage does not accumulate (for himself).
   He lives for other people,
   And grows richer himself;
   He gives to other people,
   And has greater abundance.
The Tao of Heaven
   Blesses, but does not harm.
The Way of the Sage
   Accomplishes, but does not contend.

In the introduction to this book we stated that we would break with the “conventional” approach in the hopes of better demonstrating the integrated nature, the oneness, of the Taoist philosophical system. To begin the journey through the Diamond of the Tao, we shall begin at the end. Conventional numbering finds the aforementioned verse last. Then again the end of a thing is just the beginning of something else. Archeologists have unearthed other copies of the Tao Te Ching where this verse was first. It truly matters not. However, as an introduction to the Tao, it's a fine place to start.

True words are not fine-sounding;
  
 Fine-sounding words are not true.
Remember those words. There may not be two more important lines to help you separate fact from fiction when it comes to the Tao Te Ching, or in life, which is what the Tao Te Ching is all about. Much of what is written and said about the subject is wrong, dangerously wrong. The words written and the pictures painted by these pseudo-sources create beautiful, appealing images in the mind of the reader. The purveyors of those words sell us on their perspective and point of view. Of course, this applies to phenomena in any walk of life. Irrespective of their intent and most importantly for the individual, why do their words necessarily sound good to you? Why, in a caveat emptor world, do you buy what they are selling?
Simply...it resonates with what we believe, would like to believe, the picture we hold of ourselves, the life philosophy we've developed, and how we see or would like to see, the world around us.
As we discussed in Essence when writing about verse 12: The Senses, as well as many other verses, throughout our lives we develop a series of internal, psychological programs as a result of the messages from the social structures in which we live, that form our beliefs. Through these programs we process the data we absorb through our senses. As passionate beings with the potential for rationality, we become emotionally invested in those beliefs. Look at the following translations of verse 5:
Heaven and earth are ruthless;

They see the ten thousand things as dummies

The wise are ruthless;

They see the people as dummies

Gia-Fu Feng and Jane English

Random House, 1972


Heaven and earth are impartial

They see the ten thousand things as strawdogs

The wise are impartial

They see the people as strawdogs

Gia Fu Feng & Jane English

Vintage, 1989


Heaven and Earth does not love mankind

and allows everyone to live there own life

The sage also does not love mankind

and allows everyone to live there own life

Yan Hin Shun


Heaven and Earth are not humane

Regards the ten thousand things as straw dogs

The Sage is not humane

He regards the common people as straw dogs

Robert G. Henricks

Ballantine, 1989


Heaven and earth are sentimental

They see the ten thousand things as straw dogs

The wise are sentimental

They see the people as straw dogs

John C.H. Wu


Heaven and earth are inhumane

they view the myriad creatures as straw dogs

The Sage is inhumane

He views the common people as straw dogs

Victor H. Mair

Bantam Books, 1990


So, which one is correct? If you've read Essence of Tao, or Truth of Tao, you know which one(s) would be more accurate, so try to remember how you would have judged it had you not read them. Perhaps the better question, exemplifying the aforementioned point, which one do you like? Which one appeals to the programming in your brain? Which one to you is fine sounding? Depending on your political or philosophical orientation, you will likely choose the one you like best, that which is more in keeping with your world view and your personal philosophy, and you will likely interpret based on that view regardless of it's validity. The translators and other untrained interpreters of Taoism, as humans more or less like you, will produce their translations the same way. In Essence of Tao, we referenced Paul Carus' 1913 translation, The Teachings of Lao-Tzu and, in his own words, how he imbued his beliefs on the translation of “Nature is unkind,” or alternatively, “Nature is ruthless,” from verse 5:

The question is whether Lao-Tzu did or did not believe that 

heaven and earth and the Tao were endowed with sentiment. An 

answer would be difficult, if not impossible. However, I am now 

inclined to think that he was more of a mystic than a 

philosopher, and thus he recognized in the dispensation of the 

world a paternal and loving providence.*
~Essence of Tao, Pg. 250


Here Carus, a philosopher/theologian, not a Taoist, decided he knew what Lao Tzu meant almost 2000 years before, as opposed to what was written, even though he said, “An answer would be difficult, if not impossible.” Yet, in pursuit of academic integrity we quote from the text The Guodian Laozi, which was a book detailing the findings of a conference held at Dartmouth College in 1998:

the transcription itself is not the place to include decisions as to 

what the editor thinks the “intended” character or word might be 

for a non-standard, rare, or anomalous character, or what the 

correct” character or word is for those characters that the 

transcriber deems “wrong.”



Carus read the character. He knew what it meant. He just couldn't believe that Lao Tzu actually meant what the character said, so he ignored the proper translation and gave it his own in accordance with his belief system. But it gets even more complicated. Returning to The Guodian Laozi:

The Texts, which more than lived up to our expectations, 

included three bamboo-slip texts with material corresponding 

to that now found in the Laozi but in a different order and  

containing many variations
The Guodian Laozi, pg. 3


The underlining is added for emphasis, but notice even the texts found had “variations.” So, even back then they had similar issues that could range from transcription errors, limited subject matter knowledge, or individuals coloring their work with their beliefs. Therefore even the “source” documents from which the translations have been written may have been tainted by the foibles of individuals' belief systems. What's worse, we don't know if the people who copied the texts were Taoists, or just people who were supposedly adept at copying.

So,our personal belief structure determines whether words are “fine-sounding.” Which then brings us to why, “Fine-sounding words are not true.”

The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                       ~ Stephen Hawking



It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                  
                                                                                                                       ~ Aristotle





Therefore the Sage: He gives them life, but does not take possession of them; 

                                                                                                                       ~verse 2



As we can see, the Taoists were not the only philosophers to consider this issue. Aristotle understood the need not to become so invested in an idea that it became a prison from which an otherwise rational mind could not escape. As we grow older, we become wedded to our beliefs (thus the saying, "you can't teach an old dog new tricks"), and frankly, this process starts with birth. Day by day they grow stronger at the core of our being. It becomes harder to question them, because we build our lives around them. To question them is to question how you've spent your life. When we hear words or ideas that threaten those models, those that are not fine-sounding to our ears, we often repel from them. The words grate against us emotionally and intellectually, much as fingernails across a chalkboard make our skin crawl, attacking beliefs we've held dear for many years, but that doesn't make them false. Of course in life, there are words that represent ideas, methods, and commitments, and there are actions that prove them. Some are relatively simple to verify, some are so large it is relatively impossible for us to understand or comprehend them completely, and others still, we are told, won't be verified until after death. Therein lies a problem. We can test those things which are easily tested, but how do we test the larger philosophical and metaphysical questions of life upon which we base our beliefs?

It's much easier to believe what we like. To think the way we want to think. To just look at our side of the story, but to do so is to violate one of the primary principles of Taoism: Yin/Yang. All phenomena are made up of a pairing of polar opposites. Therefore, to understand completely a given phenomenon we must study and understand it's underlying components, both the Yin and the Yang, otherwise our understanding is incomplete.

We are often told to think positively, that to think negatively is bad, and true, a bad attitude can negatively affect your ability to execute. So, does that mean when we plan a large project or complex activity we shouldn't study what could go wrong (negative/yin), or what scenarios could result beyond that which we consider the optimum(positive/yang) outcome? Of course not. We must constantly study the negative to understand what could happen and practice how we would handle it. It also sensitizes us to changes in metrics or parameters that indicate a less than optimum path giving us the chance, as Lao Tzu said, to “Deal with the difficult while yet it is easy; Deal with the big while yet it is small...Therefore the Sage by never dealing with great (problems)Accomplishes greatness.” So we have to think about what bad could happen.

So you have to decide, are you seeking truth and reality, or are you content living within the comfortable confines of your beliefs-in the illusion of reality in which we all live? That is, as we said in Essence the border between what we know and what we think we know,” -the illusion of knowledge. If the latter is your goal, then read no further. If the former, then you must constantly challenge and test your beliefs and listen to the harsh words that make us question what we hold dear from the time you enter this life, until you cross the threshold into the next. Simply....honestly ask the question “Why?” Seems simple enough, but it is the relatively rare individual that can consistently, and with brutal honesty, question their most closely held beliefs. How many of us play devil's advocate to our beliefs? How many of us truly and honestly make the time and the effort required to understand opponent point of views and arguments.

Lets face it, handling the “good” in life is relatively easy. Getting up when it has knocked you down, and it will knock you down...repeatedly...is what it's all about. Understanding both the positive and negative aspects of a phenomenon can be vital to contentment, because ignorance of half the phenomena is only to give yourself half a chance. Remember, upon entering an authentic Taoist temple the visitor is greeted by a rack of weapons and battle standards, symbolic of the war, or if that word is not fine sounding enough for you, the struggle that is life. The greatest struggle, and definitely the most constant we are likely to face is with ourselves, to have the courage, perseverance and fortitude to seek clarity and reality throughout our lives. As Lao Tzu said:

Those who dream of the banquet, wake to lamentation and sorrow.
Those who dream of lamentation and sorrow wake to join the hunt.
The Wisdom of Laotse, 236





A good man does not argue;
   
he who argues is not a good man.




The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence 


either way. 

             ~Bertrand Russell


People think differently. One need only look to the eternal paradox represented by the relationship between a man and a woman to understand this. If you find yourself laughing under your breath, then the point is made. Tomes have been written about the difference in the way the sexes think about a given subject, and if there is that much difference between two individuals that know each other and “accept” each other, how much greater can the divide be between strangers. In The Truth of Tao there is an entire section, led by the stanza above, which addresses the issue of argument, and as the quote by Bertrand Russell intimates, as the subject matter becomes more abstruse, arcane, or shrouded in the fog of uncertainty, the more vehement the disagreement. Chuang Tzu wrote concisely on the subject in his essay, The Futility of Argument:

Granting that you and I argue. If you get the better of me, and not I of 
 
 you, are you necessarily right and I wrong? Or if I get the better of you 

and not you of me, am I necessarily right and you wrong? Or are we 

both partly right and partly wrong? Or are we both wholly right and 

wholly wrong? Since you and I cannot know, we all live in darkness.

Whom shall I ask to judge between us? If I ask someone who takes your

view, he will side with you. How can such a one arbitrate between us? If 

I ask someone who takes my view, he will side with me. How can such a 

one arbitrate between us? If I ask someone who differs from both of us,

he  will be equally unable to decide between us, since he differs from 

both of us. And if I ask someone who agrees with both of us, he will be 

equally unable to decide between us, since he agrees with both of us. 

Since you and I and other men cannot decide, how can we depend upon 

another? The words of arguments are all relative;...The right may not be

really right. What appears so may not be really so. Even if what is right is

really right, wherein it differs from wrong cannot be made plain by

argument. Even if what appears so is really so, wherein it differs from 

 what is not so also cannot be made plain by argument....
~The Wisdom of Laotse, pg. 54-55



Take the time to read and digest it slowly. When asking those bigger questions about life, or trying to make correct decisions about ambiguous problems or situations about which all may not be understood, these dynamics often come into play. One need only look at the problems of the day, be they political, legal, environmental, or... to see this dynamic in action. One of the clearest examples brings us back to the Greeks. Socrates to be specific, about whom we said in Essence: 
 
Socrates was told by the oracle at Delphi that he was the wisest man in
all Athens. By following an exhaustive process of questioning other
great thinkers of supposedly profound knowledge, he found displays of
vanity and ignorance instead of genuine wisdom. Socrates finally
concluded that the oracle meant he was wise because he understood that
he lacked knowledge and was willing to honestly test his beliefs, not
because of the knowledge he actually possessed.
~Essence of Tao, pg. 42


Unfortunately for Socrates things went downhill from there, which, as a result, gave us the literary and philosophical classic, The Death of Socrates. After Socrates spent all that time with the philosophical elite demonstrating their ignorance for all to see, they decided, after all that insult and damage to their egos, Socrates was a danger to society. He was tried, convicted, and sentenced to death. So much for the elite mind's ability to enact and accept dispassionate logical discourse. So, that begs the question, do you think the relatively uneducated mass of humanity can do better? Argument can be fatal.


At it's core argument is a conflict. It can be a relatively cordial exchange of ideas between friends, or it can escalate, depending on the parties involved, all the way to full-fledged war. There is a reason for the saying, “There are two subjects one does not discuss in polite company. One is politics, the other religion.” They tend to be lightning rods for passion. Any idea that is passionately held is generally off limits to debate within the mind that holds them, especially in subjects “where there is no good evidence either way.”


Therefore, you have to decide, in any given argument, discussion, dialogue, you are entering, are you teaching or are you learning? Can you play both roles? Can the other person play both roles? Are they in the discussion to teach you? What may be the end result of a positive and negative disposition vis a vis your relationship with your argument partner, be it a romantic partner, friend, colleague, etc.?


Since we are passion-driven beings with the potential for rational behavior, as opposed to rational beings with the potential for passion-driven behavior it is better not to engage in argument. As we can see from Socrates' pyrrhic victory, the cost, although rarely that extreme in daily life, can be a source of discord that plants its own malignant seeds with which the individual may have to deal over time. So why engage in argument unless absolutely necessary.


the wise one does not know many things;  
 He who knows many things is not wise. 
 


First, what does it mean to be wise? That is, to possess wisdom? From the Oxford Dictionaries we derive the following meaning: 
 
the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; thequality of being wise. the soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience,


As we reach adulthood we must decide on a profession to pursue. Becoming profoundly skilled in any profession requires innate talent, proper teaching, passionate practice, and the ability to continually refine the practice of the discipline to the point where it becomes an organic, self-propagating component of our being, so that we may continue to improve the outcomes of our target activities. As a rule it takes many years to become profoundly skilled in a given discipline. Whether it be as a doctor, lawyer, musician, carpenter, plumber, or Taoist priest, the years of training and then the additional years in the vocation required to reach mastery, can be significant. To become a Taoist priest, it usually takes 20 years of devoted training across multiple disciplines. This process of training-to-mastery gives us a method of learning to continually improve and make ourselves better, which we can then apply to other activities in our lives as well. Unfortunately, the ability to master a discipline can be a two-edged sword. 
 
Whereas we may, in our lifetimes, become profound in a given skill or profession, we likely only have the time and ability to truly master that one discipline, to know one thing, and frankly, we should be quite grateful if we can. True polymaths are few and far between. Time and time again, pride and arrogance rear their ugly heads as the universal human affliction they are, causing us to reach in the belief we possess knowledge that is unknowingly beyond our grasp. In this case, they lead us to believe that we can master, or become expert in other disciplines, to think we know more than we actually do. Looking again to the example of Socrates, he literally debunked the supposed single area of knowledge other great thinkers and teachers of Athens believed they possessed.


Of course there are exceptions that prove the rule, but in the vast majority of cases, which likely means you, it doesn't work. Unfortunately, true words are not fine-sounding.


What then happens? We proceed into these other areas under the assumption our applied skills elsewhere allow us to succeed in our new endeavors, or render us able to speak intelligently and with great confidence about other subjects. Unfortunately, the results are often less than optimal. Which explains why the wise one does not know many things. Or, returning to the quote regarding Socrates, “Socrates finally concluded that the oracle meant he was wise because he understood that he lacked knowledge.” In other words, the antithesis of “He who knows many things ...” Socrates understood the limitation of his knowledge. That all important demarcation between the fantasy and reality of our perceived knowledge and abilities, which Lao Tzu echoes when he says...



Who knows that he does not know is the highest; 
Who (pretends to) know what he does not know is
sick-minded. And who recognizes sick-mindedness as
sick-mindedness is not sick-minded.



However, he takes the analogy even further describing the mind that does not understand the demarcation between what it knows and does not know as “sick.” Which then brings us back to what we said about fine sounding words. “So, you have to decide, are you seeking truth and reality, or are you content living within the comfortable confines of your beliefs-in the illusion of reality in which we all live? That is, as we said in Essence "the border between what we know and what we think we know.'”


The Sage does not accumulate (for himself)

The Sage understands the power of emotion to bind him not only to things, but also ideas. As Aristotle said, “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.“ As we've been saying, the ability to seek reality is limited by one's ability to question one's beliefs. As for material things, there isn't a philosophical/spiritual doctrine that doesn't warn of the antithetical trap the pursuit of material gains can be to personal contentment. Lao Tzu says this often, and perhaps most eloquently when he said:
If peace, order, and the pursuit of happiness are invisible things,
obviously they can not be really obtained by visible means.
~The Wisdom of Laotse, 157

So whereas the Sage, and Taoism in general, is not adverse to the ownership and use of material things, placing faith or emotional energy in their ability to provide contentment in life is a fools errand. Everything is temporary, you can't take it with you, not even your body. History is replete with jarring incidents that tear apart the world to which individuals have become accustomed. Then what do you do? How do you carry on, when all you have is what you carry inside your heart and soul and perhaps the clothes on your back? He therefore strives to understand the difference between material necessity and material desire. What is the difference between needs and wants? Does what I possess serve me, or do I serve it?


He lives for other people,  
And grows richer himself;


The character translated here as “for” can also be translated as “among,” or even “off of.” Our life is governed by self-interest. We strive in life to lead as personally content a life as possible. We may do things for other people, especially those close to us such as family, and dear friends, but what we do for them is in the context of making our life better, in that helping them brings us joy and reward, or at least less pain. As we stated in Essence,

Contrary to some interpretations, this does not imply that Taoism seeks a 
return to a mythical prehistoric world of idyllic bliss. It does not promote
living in caves without heat, hunting for our dinner, and fighting off
predators. Instead, the purpose of Taoist philosophy is to help us
maximize contentment within the conditions in which we live.
                                                                                                               ~(Essence, Pg. 167)


Taoism is a model of reality that looks at the interrelationships between the individual, the social structures (society) in which they live, and Nature. We look to Nature to understand the underlying principles that govern the Universe and therefore the world around us. We study societal structures to understand where the values of society diverge from those principles of Nature, to better understand the conflicts that arise within ourselves in pursuit of contentment within the society in which we live and grow richer.

He gives to other people,   
And has greater abundance.

When we see the word “abundance” we think of a great amount of something, but remember, the abundance for which the Taoist strives is contentment. He gives to those within his circle, because relationships are exchanges in accordance with the principle of Yin/Yang. You must give to receive, there must be harmony of exchange between the individual and those with whom he has a relationship. It can't be one-sided, else the relationships will die, which, obviously, is the opposite of abundance. Now what we give or receive does not have to be material, but it must provide value to the exchange between individuals to maintain the virtuous circle.


The Tao of Heaven  
 Blesses, but does not harm. 
The Way of the Sage   
Accomplishes, but does not contend.

Whereas the first line is somewhat allegorical, the second line describes the result of a Taoist adept's life. He accomplishes maximizing contentment in life. He does not contend, in that he does not interfere in the lives of others, in violation of the principle of Wu Wei. Knowing his values may be contrary to those around him, he does not flaunt them, living quietly and peaceably among neighbors who may not share his values. His actions are optimized for the trials and tribulations with which he must deal throughout his life. Looking back on the definition of wisdom:

the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise.the soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience,


In other words, the right actions in the right time. Wu Wei is the principle best described as non-interference, but it can also be described as right action in the right time. To contend is to be in conflict, therefore, to minimize contention, the Sage must make the right decision as often as possible throughout life.

Friday, April 12, 2013

Market Week Wrap-up

TradeTheNews.com  Weekly Market Update: S&P500 Back at All-Time Highs as Earnings Season Begins



- Global markets appear to have shaken off the doubt that was in the air last week. On Wednesday the S&P500 broke above its all-time high of 1,576, made back in October 2007. The US corporate earnings season got under way, with strong EPS growth but flat-to-lower revenue seen out of JPMorgan, Wells Fargo and Alcoa. In Europe, there were questions about Portugal needing another bailout and some static out of Cyprus, but on the whole investors were not panicking about the euro zone crisis. Both France and the UK released some February production data that hinted that steep declines may be bottoming out. In the US, two March datapoints painted an unpleasant picture of the US consumer and may represent the first impact from the sequestration and higher payroll taxes on consumer spending. The preliminary University of Michigan consumer confidence index fell to 72.3, its lowest reading since July 2012. March advance retail sales saw their first negative reading in five months and the biggest drop in nine months. Note that the junk-bond market has seen a big pick-up in activity, with the average yield falling to a new all-time low 5.5% on Friday. For the week, the DJIA gained 2.1%, the S&P 500 rose 2.3% and the Nasdaq added 2.8%.

- Gold prices collapsed this week. Both Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs cut their 2013/14 price forecasts and offered bearish commentary on the yellow metal. Friday saw the bulk of the declines: the June contract dropped more than 4%, to close at its lows around $1,491, after crashing through both the psychological $1,500 mark and its 50-day moving average. The contract also broke a key pivot support level around $1,525: the level was support in September and December of 2011, and also in the spring of 2012.

- The FOMC minutes were released early on Wednesday morning after they were accidentally e-mailed to some Congressional staffers and a few major banks 24 hours early on Tuesday afternoon. The minutes themselves exposed the lively debate over the right time to begin winding down Fed asset purchases. All but a few officials agreed that the program should continue until at least midyear. Some said buying should taper down around midyear, others felt buying should continue through September before tapering, and a few wanted buying to continue at its current pace into 2014.

- The White House proposed $3.77 trillion budget blueprint for fiscal 2014 that would trim the deficit over three years by cutting social security, requiring the rich to pay more in taxes and enacting spending cuts to replace the sequester. House Speaker Boehner rejected the proposal, saying the Obama budget never reaches balance and that it backtracks on entitlement reform.

- JPMorgan was the first big bank to reports Q1 results. JPM's net income rose more than 30% and EPS roundly beat expectations, although revenue fell slightly y/y. CEO Dimon highlight both the good and the bad: on the one hand, he said housing prices were still rising and the credit card portfolio did very well, but on the other he warned that loan growth across the industry was softer and small businesses remain cautious.

- IDC reported that Q1 global PC shipments fell 13.9% versus expectations for a 7.7% drop, making for the steepest ever y/y decline since the data series began in 1994. A Sanford Bernstein analyst said his channel checks indicated Q1 PC shipments may be even worse than that, down as much as 18%. This would mark the fourth consecutive quarter of y/y shipment declines for the industry.

- On Tuesday, shares of JC Penny fell 12% after Ron Johnson was forced out as CEO and former CEO Mike Ullman was brought back to salvage the firm. Investors do not seem reassured by the choice. On Friday, reports indicated that Penney was seeking up to $1B in new funding to be secured by its inventory, and many analysts say that it is only a matter of time before the stricken firm is taken private.

- The decline of the yen met resistance this week. USD/JPY traded up to 99.80, its highest level since May 2009, but was unable to break 100. EUR/JPY approached 130.60, its highest level since January 2010. The BoJ disclosed the details of the first operation under its new bond buying scheme: it will purchase ¥1.0T in five- and ten-year JGBs and ¥200B in bonds with maturities exceeding 10 years, as part of ¥6.2T in purchases during April. The yen carry-trade has clearly returned, as Japanese investors look to buy overseas bonds in the hunt for yield.

- On Thursday the Bank of Korea unexpectedly maintained its seven-day repo rate at 2.75% for 6th straight month, despite political pressure to lower rates stemming from the situation in North Korea and the weaker yen. Bond yields hinted at a rate cut and declined to record lows following a cut in the 2013 GDP forecast by the Finance Ministry.

- EUR/USD came into the week around 1.30 and traded as high as 1.3135 on Thursday. There was some low-level turbulence stemming from the peripheral nations. After the Constitutional Court struck down parts of its 2013 austerity measures, Portugal said it would cut spending to meet targets. In Cyprus, there was conflict between the government, which would like to sell off €400M of the nation's gold reserves (which would require selling about 10 tonnes of its 13.9 tonnes of gold reserves), and the central bank, which does not want to let the gold go.

- USD/CNY hit a record low of 6.1923. On Wednesday China reported an unexpected trade deficit of $880M, considerably less than the surplus of over $15B expected. Imports surged by more than 14%, well above the 6% expected, while exports climbed 10.0%, less than the 11.7% expected and well below an almost 22% rise in the prior month of February. Many analysts pointed out that the trade data was heavily skewed by trade flows into and out of Hong Kong. After the close on Friday, the US Treasury released its semi-annual currency report and again declined to name China (or anyone else) a currency manipulator. The Treasury report said that while the Yuan remains significantly undervalued, it has appreciated 16.2% in real terms since 2010.

TradeTheNews

Apr 12 2013

Perfect end to a very good week. 100% trading, no single stop. Usual suspects: GDX, CAT, SLW, BBRY, C.


Session Time: Fri Apr 12 00:00:00 2013
[09:02] {thomcbell} gm
01[09:03] {Threei}  morning tbell
[09:09] {thomcbell} gld
01[09:12] {Threei}  poor goldbugs
01[09:12] {Threei}  no relief
01[09:12] {Threei}  no break
01[09:12] {Threei}  no safe haven
[09:12] {dino} gm
[09:12] {Les} kill em all, let god sort em out
[09:12] {Les} morn
01[09:14] {Threei}  dino, les :)
[09:14] {cipher} gm
01[09:14] {Threei}  cipher :)
01[09:17] {Threei}  BlackBerry Calls for review of False Reports on Return Rates; reiterates sales of Z10 are meeting expectations
01[09:17] {Threei}  - Would seek Securities and Exchange Commission and Ontario Securities Commission review of a false and misleading report about retail return rates for the Company's new BlackBerry Z10 smartphone.
01[09:17] {Threei}  good luck with that
01[09:17] {Threei}  when company starts fighting analysts estimation in a public spat, it rarely ends well
01[09:21] {Threei}  JPM generally decent report
01[09:21] {Threei}  and yet
[09:21] {Will49} gm
[09:22] {backman} gm
[09:22] {Alexs} gm
[09:24] {jdetente} gm
01[09:25] {Threei}  will, bman, alex, jd :)
01[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .30 break hl
01[09:30] {Threei}  If holds  .40
01[09:31] {Threei}  change to .40 break
01[09:31] {Threei}  too fast...
[09:32] {Les} way overextended. a bounce to short into would be nice
01[09:32] {Threei}  let's wait for one
01[09:32] {Threei}  nervous opening
[09:34] {backman} ACAD?
01[09:34] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  probably long on .80 break
01[09:34] {Threei}  oops'
01[09:35] {Threei}  probably long on .80 break, but ACAD is not for faint heart
[09:35] {dino} ctsh sm l .53 stop .45
[09:37] {cipher} IEP L.16
[09:37] {cipher} SNDK L.29
[09:37] {thomcbell} bcei - i knew it
01[09:39] {Threei}  ok, here come bounces
[09:40] {dino} ctsh to .93
[09:40] {thomcbell} c looking for setup but nothing there
01[09:40] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .20 break
01[09:41] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .35 break
01[09:41] {Threei}  GDX stop .46
01[09:41] {Threei}  SLW .26
01[09:43] {Threei}  SLW 1:1
01[09:43] {Threei}  GDX 1:1
[09:43] {dino} out ctsh .03, +.50
01[09:43] {Threei}  wtg
[09:43] {dino} ty
[09:44] {thomcbell} jpm impressive
[09:45] {thomcbell} green
01[09:45] {Threei}  SLW 1:2
01[09:45] {Threei}  like clockwork
01[09:45] {Threei}  what are we going to trade when this PMs/miners death march is over
[09:46] {Les} jump on the backs of the new gold bugs
[09:46] {Les} ride em up
01[09:46] {Threei}  long?? booring
[09:46] {Les} hehehe
01[09:46] {Threei}  shorting public hysteria is much more fun
[09:46] {Les} feeding on fear your thing hey?
[09:46] {Les} :)
01[09:47] {Threei}  greed is good, too... to borrow from Gekko
[09:47] {dino} yes
[09:47] {Les} double edged sword
[09:47] {Les} gotta learn how to use greed
01[09:47] {Threei}  same thing...
[09:47] {Les} hard lesson
01[09:48] {Threei}  like nutcracker and ballbreaker, you know... same thing :)
[09:48] {Les} f:)
[09:48] {Les} - f
[09:49] {dino} infy gap fill jan
[09:49] {Les} gotta admit morbid interest in reading new gold bug blog commentary.
01[09:49] {Threei}  it's highly educational
01[09:49] {Threei}  helps you recognize this dealy mindset
01[09:50] {Threei}  deadly
[09:50] {Les} enlightening, yes
01[09:50] {Threei}  "I am right, the market is wrong, it's manipulation"
01[09:51] {Threei}  ever catch yourself thinking like that, close all position and drink for 3 days straughtm to erase all the brain cells that carry this way of thinking
[09:51] {Will49} LOL
01[09:51] {Threei}  SLW 1:3, out
[09:52] {thomcbell} good job vad
[09:52] {thomcbell} great job
01[09:52] {Threei}  GDX 1:2
01[09:52] {Threei}  ty sir
[09:52] {Les} gonna have to call it a day
[09:53] {Les} slaughtering gold longs has made my daily pay check
[09:53] {dino} ctsh new lows, infy app lod
01[09:53] {Threei}  wait, GDX is coming on 1:3 as well
01[09:53] {Threei}  then you can leave
[09:53] {Les} yeh last piece still holding
01[09:53] {Threei}  awww SLW
01[09:53] {Threei}  1:4
01[09:54] {Threei}  so Les... was there any second of it that wasn't fun?? :)
[09:54] {Les} hmmmm
[09:54] {Les} the emotions were kept in pocket there during tradess
01[09:54] {Threei}  and notice... there is no creative thinking involved with each and every trade
01[09:54] {Threei}  like filling a template
[09:54] {Les} fun will come commenting in various blog spaces now
[09:54] {Will49} that's the part i like
[09:55] {Les} yeh
[09:55] {Will49} no thinking
01[09:55] {Threei}  standard operating procedure:
[09:55] {Les} still working through the struggle between what I ethink and what I see
01[09:55] {Threei}  trading idea is in place, watch for the setup that goes in accordance with it,
01[09:55] {Threei}  take it when it comes, wait for the outcome.
[09:55] {dino} gj les
01[09:55] {Threei}  day after day, like a clockwork
[09:55] {thomcbell} i do as well Les -
01[09:56] {Threei}  GDX 1:3, out
[09:56] {thomcbell} im a work in progress - but keeping getting better with this method
[09:56] {Les} C clocked me good the last couple of session as I took silly bets that it would squeeze some more. Of course it did no such thing
01[09:56] {Threei}  that's good
01[09:57] {Threei}  yiou know what would be bad?
01[09:57] {Threei}  if it did do what expect
01[09:57] {Threei}  what you expect
01[09:57] {Threei}  that would reinforce your bad habit of trading an idea with no setup
[09:57] {Will49} in life...expectations lead to pain
01[09:57] {Threei}  as it is, it showed you that chart setup overrides everything
01[09:58] {Threei}  and next time you won't do that
01[09:58] {Threei}  or will, but more seldom, and will get out faster
01[09:58] {Threei}  until bad habit is eliminated
[09:58] {dino} athn drop
[09:59] {thomcbell} looking for a setup lvs short here vad
[09:59] {Les} will take day off and go do more pyjama partying
[09:59] {Les} slowly geting balance between work and other activities
[09:59] {Les} pyjama party = Aikido
[09:59] {Les} cheers bon weekend c u's Monday
01[10:00] {Threei}  we don;t want to know about your perversions
01[10:00] {Threei}  have a good weekend
[10:00] {Les} Nemo understands me
[10:00] {Will49} be good Les
[10:00] {dino} later les
[10:00] {Les} never
01[10:00] {Threei}  55 break, tbell...
[10:00] {Will49} kepp your pjs on
01[10:00] {Threei}  could be
[10:02] {thomcbell} lvs 1:1
[10:04] {nemo} not much on the algo this morning so far
[10:05] {thomcbell} i got stopped flat on 2nd half lvs
[10:05] {thomcbell} next
[10:08] {thomcbell} kors looks like an 55.80 break if holding 56 half lot
[10:09] {thomcbell} possibly two sided
[10:10] {cipher} ATHN L .55
[10:10] {cipher} LECO L.97
[10:12] {thomcbell} kofs long setup 55.96 break if holding 55.80
[10:14] {thomcbell} kors rather
[10:14] {thomcbell} still two sided though
01[10:15] {Threei}  crap... got distracted, missed .75 CAT short
[10:17] {Will49} getting an early start on the weekend Vad?
[10:17] {Will49} :)
01[10:18] {Threei}  I tried to start weekend on Tuesday...
[10:18] {thomcbell} kors invalidated on both sides - spread is too big - will wait for it to tighten
[10:18] {cipher} out ATHN .93 +.38
[10:18] {Will49} aw cipher...go away
01[10:18] {Threei}  lol
[10:19] {Will49} you're just too good
01[10:19] {Threei}  grrr CAT
[10:20] {Will49} no...it's meow CAT
[10:20] {cipher} LECO stopped .94 -.03
[10:20] {cipher} CAVM L.04
[10:22] {cipher} KLAC L.28
[10:27] {cipher} out CAVM .14 +.10
[10:28] {cipher} NXPI L .12
[10:29] {thomcbell} prlb crazy moves today
[10:30] {cipher} out KLAC .37 +.09
[10:30] {cipher} out NXPI .17 +.05
[10:31] {backman} ACAD all recovered from $1 drop earlier
[10:31] {thomcbell} ca lot of fight
[10:31] {thomcbell} c
[10:31] {thomcbell} alot of fight
[10:31] {thomcbell} bcei all the way back down to test 50
[10:34] {cipher} GLD drop
01[10:36] {Threei}  mama
01[10:37] {Threei}  I can't imagine the pain in goldbugs camp
[10:37] {dino} 07 red
[10:37] {dino} bcei drop
[10:37] {Will49} yikes
[10:37] {dino} should start hearing about a gold hedge fund blowing up
[10:38] {thomcbell} i nibbled at 35.75
01[10:38] {Threei}  *SPOT GOLD MOVES BELOW $1,525/OZ**Note: level had held as support in Sept 2011, Dec 2011 and spring 2012
[10:38] {dino} pall drop
[10:41] {thomcbell} kors 55.80 short break was the play there
[10:43] {dino} infy sm l .50 stop lod
[10:49] {dino} cbi sm l .02
01[10:51] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .50 break hl
01[10:52] {Threei}  ugh, late
01[10:53] {Threei}  ok, in
01[10:53] {Threei}  stop .61
01[10:53] {Threei}  target 1:3
01[10:53] {Threei}  aggressive entry for .40 break
[10:58] {backman} Kors...nice break above .42
[10:59] {thomcbell} prlb small long 49
01[11:01] {Threei}  1:1
01[11:01] {Threei}  GLD... blood is gushing
[11:02] {dino} slw smacked too
[11:02] {dino} pall
[11:03] {dino} infy stop -.30
[11:05] {dino} slv 52 wk low
01[11:06] {Threei} Short Setup: EBAY  .80 break hl
01[11:07] {Threei}  If holds  .90
01[11:07] {Threei}  CAT 1:2
01[11:08] {Threei}  closed balance on a trail
[11:12] {dino} slv sm l .35
01[11:13] {Threei}  Invalidated  EBAY
[11:14] {dino} infy sm l .00
[11:20] {dino} out infy .44, +.44
[11:23] {dino} stj spike
01[11:29] {Threei}  if this doesn't send you on the floor laughing, nothing ever will:
01[11:29] {Threei}  (CY) Cyprus Govt confirms that as part of additional funding for bailout, no new haircut on depositors will be implemented - press- Reminder: Earlier the Cyprus President was considering asking Greece for �3.0B of ELA funding in order to recapitalize the Cyprus banking system
01[11:30] {Threei}  asking Greece for funding???
[11:30] {dino} lol
01[11:31] {Threei}  asking homeless for the roof... stripper in the middle of a pole dance for the clothes...
01[11:31] {Threei}  asking vegetarian for a pork chop
01[11:31] {Threei}  asking nemo for a sane advice
[11:32] {dino} asking obama to cut regulations
01[11:32] {Threei}  that beats even nemo piece
[11:35] {Will49} the only surprise? ...that anybody is surprised
[11:36] {dino} rumors cypress selling gold reserves
[11:36] {Will49} all this bail out stuff just going in one ear and.....
01[11:36] {Threei}  they just can't decide whether it's true or not... conflicting headlines every day
01[11:41] {Threei} Short Setup: BBRY  .70 break
01[11:41] {Threei}  If holds  .80
[11:42] {nemo} bbry or bbby
01[11:43] {Threei}  R
[11:47] {thomcbell} out bcei 36
[11:47] {dino} gj
[11:48] {thomcbell} wish i had waited for that last woosh
[11:50] {dino} lnn?
01[11:52] {Threei}  no news
[11:54] {dino} out cbi .32, +.32
[11:55] {thomcbell} hig long setup 27.46 break if holding 27.39
[11:56] {dino} out slv .55, +.20
[11:56] {dino} taking a break
[11:57] {thomcbell} out prlb 49.40's
[12:19] {thomcbell} jpm long setup 49.27 break if holding 49.20 Vad
[12:20] {nemo} at lunch when it's been trading in a range...eh
01[12:26] {Threei}  tbell, if JPM does that, I'd rather look for C .40 break as a sympathy play
01[12:26] {Threei}  BBRY 1:1
01[12:26] {Threei}  took its sweet time
[12:32] {dino} .
01[12:32] {Threei}  good point
[12:34] {dino} indeed. i see i didn't miss much
[12:35] {Will49} but you dotted your i's
01[12:40] {Threei}  C 1:1
01[12:40] {Threei}  notice how much beter it moved vs JPM?
[12:42] {thomcbell} hig got 1:1 and then some i see
[12:42] {thomcbell} y i see
01[12:57] {Threei}  1:2
[13:04] {dino} gj
01[13:05] {Threei}  ty
01[13:05] {Threei}  slowish but very effective day
[13:09] {dino} same here
[13:13] {dino} gef sm l .91
[13:21] {Will49} yes Vad...another good day
[13:22] {Will49} if I don't give it away now
[13:22] {Will49} think I'll scalp small lots until last hour
[13:22] {Will49} If there any alerts
[13:22] {Will49} are any
01[13:23] {Threei}  yup
01[13:23] {Threei}  and I just prepared a longish joke about Will bombrading me with request for another trade with teenager-like gusto
[13:24] {Will49} Ha
[13:24] {Will49} i like the teenager reference :)
01[13:24] {Threei}  thought you would :)
[13:25] {nemo} rig
01[13:26] {Threei}  next shishkebab gathering, we need to cruise over the neighborhood starting fights and breaking fences
[13:27] {backman} ...and cow tipping..go hog wild
01[13:27] {Threei}  for that we will have to dump ese... he has unhealthy respect for cows
01[13:27] {Threei}  whatcha think Will?
[13:28] {backman} tell him they are really bulls
01[13:28] {Threei}  dp will be on board, I am sure
01[13:28] {Threei}  as most Russians, he is all to happy to tip the cows over after second bottle of vodka
[13:36] {dino} gef stop.66 -.25
[13:38] {backman} OK...calling it a weekend...
01[13:38] {Threei}  have a good one bman
[13:44] {Will49} Vad...sorry, stepped away for a minute (Carolyn is home after three weeks away)
[13:44] {Will49} so have to give her some attention:)
01[13:44] {Threei}  I bet :)
[13:44] {Will49} Yes, good idea for BBQ. Only you have to do the rough stuff
[13:45] {Will49} fighting and breaking frnces
[13:45] {Will49} Russians are good at that, no?
[13:45] {Will49} Canadians only excel at beer drinking and hockey
[13:46] {Will49} so I'll take care of the beer consumption part
01[13:46] {Threei}  well, we'll find out :)
[13:47] {Will49} of course, you being a Russian-Canadian can fight with a beer in one hand
[13:48] {Will49} I only fight when wearing skates
01[13:48] {Threei}  OK... we need a video guy for all that
01[13:49] {Threei}  going to be epic
[13:49] {Will49} oops...forgot DP, he can help with the rough stuff too
[13:49] {Will49} Whatever you want to do Vad, I'm behind you till your nose bleeds :)
01[13:50] {Threei}  lol
[13:51] {Will49} As for ese, don't think we can rely on liberals to fight
01[13:51] {Threei}  then we will just beat him up
[13:51] {Will49} yeah
[13:51] {Will49} commie teacher
[13:52] {Will49} JK
[14:00] {dino} ntap
[14:01] {dino} sm s .51
01[14:01] {Threei}  spiders in a jar
01[14:01] {Threei}  (CY) Cyprus Central Bank's Demetriades: Govt is violating the central bank's independence, wants to sell gold reserves without consulting the bank
01[14:01] {Threei}  - Govt is interfering with bank restructuring process.
01[14:01] {Threei}  - Calls for investigation of Cyprus president's actions.
[14:03] {dino} cov ntap .01, +.50
[14:05] {nemo} cof looks short
[14:25] {thomcbell} KORS looks like a 56 long break setup
[14:46] {dino} dish
[14:56] {nemo} gpn looks short
[15:01] {Les} with a smackdown like that in gold, i've gotta come back fo r aclosing trade
[15:01] {Les} how goes it?
[15:02] {Les} hello?
01[15:02] {Threei}  don't yell
01[15:03] {Threei}  you may wake nemo up
[15:03] {Les} pffffff
[15:03] {Les} hmmm narrow day
[15:03] {Les} or so it seems
01[15:03] {Threei}  we did 1:2 long on C while you were gone
[15:04] {Les} slw looks like its ready here
01[15:04] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .45 break
01[15:04] {Threei}  If holds  .55
[15:20] {Will49} wow
[15:23] {Les}  those gold longs won't go gently into the night
[15:23] {Les} http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15377
[15:24] {Les} 1:1
01[15:24] {Threei}  1:1
[15:25] {Les} sorry
01[15:25] {Threei}  that's OK
01[15:25] {Threei}  lol
[15:25] {Les} thought you'd nodded off to sleep again
01[15:25] {Threei}  O have
01[15:25] {Threei}  I
01[15:28] {Threei}  gosh, goldbugs running around and convincing each other that it's a manipulation, everything will be OK, Fed is printing...
01[15:28] {Threei}  painful to watch
01[15:29] {Threei}  I better not say anything, they will be on a throat of anyone who doesn't share their pain and conviction
[15:29] {Les} :)
01[15:29] {Threei}  I did my best for months if not years to warn them
[15:29] {dino} calling it a week, thanks for ideas
[15:30] {Les} cheers dino
01[15:30] {Threei}  take care dino
[15:30] {Will49} cheers
[15:34] {dino} will do, thx
01[15:37] {Threei}  ugh, covered BBRY too soon
01[15:37] {Threei}  or just should have reshorted it on .60 break
[15:39] {thomcbell} kors 1:1
[15:39] {Les} small 1:2 to finish the day. thank you for all the fish
[15:39] {Les} a+
01[15:40] {Threei}  yw
01[15:46] {Threei}  1:2
[15:46] {thomcbell} kors flat 2nd half
[15:54] {Alexs} Thank u have a good weekend
[15:54] {Will49} you too
01[15:55] {Threei}  have a good one Alex
01[15:55] {Threei}  ok guys
01[15:55] {Threei}  covering last piece
[15:55] {Will49} another peachy day Vad tks
01[15:55] {Threei}  thank you all, that was great week
01[15:55] {Threei}  next one will be the same
01[15:55] {Threei}  or better
01[15:55] {Threei}  or not
01[15:56] {Threei}  have a great weekend, see you Monday
[15:56] {Will49} peace all




Thursday, April 11, 2013

Apr 11 2013

Catch of the Day: CAT relative weakness gave an idea of the short even though SPY was making new highs at the time; slightest weakness in the market should have supported the short, which was exactly what happened. Bounce top signified by two Dojis was a perfect setup. On top of quite a few winning trades in the morning, the day is beyond perfect.


On top of all that, added a few more winning ones on GDX and SLW closer to the end of the day, to finish what came to be one of our best this year.


Session Time: Thu Apr 11 00:00:00 2013
[09:00] {dino} gm
01[09:01] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:04] {cc_9} Good morning fellas.
01[09:04] {Threei}  cc9 :)
[09:06] {thomcbell} gm
01[09:06] {Threei}  tbell :)
[09:06] {thomcbell} hpq - intc - brcm
[09:10] {jdetente} gm
01[09:10] {Threei}  jd :)
[09:18] {Les} mornign
[09:19] {cipher} gm
[09:20] {Will49} gm
01[09:20] {Threei}  les, cipher, will :)
01[09:26] {Threei}  Greece Jan Unemployment Rate climbs to fresh record of 27.2%
[09:26] {Les} official count
[09:27] {Alexs} gm
01[09:27] {Threei}  alex :)
[09:30] {dino} yum sm s .70
01[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .60 break
01[09:33] {Threei} Short Setup: C  .04 break
[09:33] {thomcbell} prlb looking for a short setup
[09:33] {dino} yum stop -.30
01[09:33] {Threei}  If holds  .10
[09:34] {dino} reload s .99
[09:34] {cc_9} We need this SPY to come down some.
01[09:35] {Threei}  GDX 1:1
01[09:35] {Threei}  C 1:1
[09:36] {dino} cov yum .57, +.42
01[09:36] {Threei}  wtg
[09:37] {Les} good call on GDX vad. was fuming on failure to catch SLW didn't look elsewhere
01[09:37] {Threei}  emotions...
01[09:37] {Threei}  fuming is emotion, right?
01[09:37] {Threei}  or just air pollution?
[09:37] {Les} I blame nemo
01[09:37] {Threei}  who doesn't
01[09:38] {Threei}  C 1:2
[09:39] {thomcbell} prlb was way too wide
[09:39] {Les} great response from C to a prior day's squeeze all out ty
01[09:40] {Threei}  yw
[09:40] {Alexs} ty for C, GDX Vad
01[09:40] {Threei}  yw sir
[09:41] {dino} yum sm s .50
01[09:41] {Threei}  wow C
[09:43] {Les} bbry .85 short?
[09:43] {jdetente} covered C at .71. Thanks Vad
[09:43] {Les} could be db
01[09:43] {Threei}  :)
01[09:44] {Threei}  can't tell BBRY
[09:44] {Les} http://www.finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=SI&p=h1
[09:44] {Les} potential c & H developing in silver
[09:44] {Les} futures
01[09:48] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .90 break
01[09:50] {Threei}  1:1 in two shakes of a lamb tail
[09:50] {thomcbell} lvs?
01[09:51] {Threei}  not ready for reversal yet
01[09:51] {Threei}  1:2, out
[09:51] {Les} nice. I missed it
01[09:51] {Threei}  I chased to .87
01[09:52] {Threei}  broke down a bit too fast
[09:52] {Les} missed that too. vol. was only 100 from last trade. was upping the vol. and it kept sliding
[09:52] {Les} now I think I know why vol. automatically returns to default if I click on the L2 panel
01[09:53] {Threei}  that's how my laser set up
01[09:53] {Threei}  when changing symbol
01[09:53] {Threei}  or when position is closed
[09:54] {Les} another SOP to work on
[09:55] {dino} yum stop .81 -.31
[09:57] {dino} cbi drop
01[09:59] {Threei} Long Setup:  JCP  .43 break
01[09:59] {Threei}  If holds  .35
01[10:03] {Threei}  stop to .39
01[10:04] {Threei}  strange drop right when it looked ready for a final break
01[10:04] {Threei}  out
[10:05] {dino} stop jcp
01[10:05] {Threei}  good tightening
[10:05] {cipher} NTES L .15
[10:07] {cipher} out .NTES 39
[10:10] {cipher} NTES S .85
[10:11] {Les} SLW trying for .50 breakout
[10:14] {cipher} cov NTES .74 +.11
[10:14] {dino} cbi sm l .50
[10:16] {nemo} do they serve alcohol here?
01[10:16] {Threei}  self-serve
[10:17] {Les} u didn't got out and get some u bum?
[10:17] {Les} quaker house
[10:18] {nemo} there's a pesky fly in the room, Vad
[10:18] {Les} buuuuzzzzz
[10:20] {dino} cbi stop .19 -.31
[10:20] {dino} yum sm s .99
[10:21] {Les} bbry good short candidate vwap is .95
01[10:23] {Threei} Long Setup:  C  .25 break
01[10:24] {Threei}  If holds  .15
[10:24] {nemo} UNH long .75 break
[10:25] {nemo} stop under .65
[10:26] {nemo} still too illiquid to get a good fill
[10:29] {dino} cbi last try, sm l .00
[10:32] {nemo} cog above 71 looks good
[10:33] {Les} slw .30 short?=
01[10:33] {Threei}  can't tell
[10:33] {nemo} that's the open almost with vwap at .25
[10:33] {nemo} yeah, what he said
[10:33] {Les} yeh
[10:34] {Les} silver futures rising
01[10:36] {Threei}  market sudenly lost shape and drive
01[10:36] {Threei}  jellyfish
[10:38] {Les} same thing yesterday with C. lost drive
01[10:46] {Threei}  frikin C
01[10:46] {Threei}  rinse
[10:46] {cipher} CAVM L.22
[10:48] {Les} GDX bouncing around the LoD
[10:51] {cipher} CAVM stopped .15 -.07
[10:53] {nemo} two way srpt
[10:53] {cipher} INFA S .75
[10:54] {cipher} stopped .72 +.03
[10:54] {cc_9} The rape train only goes one way, and does not stop
[10:54] {cc_9} SPY, another high
[10:56] {cc_9} VXX barely @ legal age.
[10:56] {nemo} get used to it until earnings season shows it's hand
[10:59] {dino} yum stop -.21
[11:09] {dino} cavm
[11:12] {Les} GDX stopped trading?
01[11:12] {Threei}  pretty much
[11:13] {nemo} no, I wacked your ip address
[11:13] {dino} wac spike
[11:13] {Les} only thing you are wacking is yer willy
[11:14] {dino} cavm sm l .14
01[11:19] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .10 break hl
01[11:19] {Threei}  If holds  .20
[11:20] {nemo} if it doesn't trigger look to reload around .30
01[11:23] {Threei}  1:1
01[11:25] {Threei}  1:2, out
[11:26] {Les} me 2 ty
01[11:26] {Threei}  yw
01[11:26] {Threei}  fair warning guys
[11:26] {Les} GDX wakes up
01[11:26] {Threei}  people who don't like cats return to another life as mice
01[11:26] {Threei}  reincarnation can be real bitch
[11:27] {Les} don't like CAT but understood the setup
[11:27] {Les} long entry now?
01[11:27] {Threei}  no opinion
01[11:27] {Threei}  50/50
[11:27] {Les} k
[11:28] {dino} cbi to .79
[11:30] {dino} out cbi .79, +.79
[11:30] {Les} gj
[11:31] {dino} ty
[11:33] {dino} cbi sm l .46
[11:44] {Les} CAT .70 short?
01[11:44] {Threei}  hl, yes'
[11:48] {dino} cavm stop .97 -.17
01[11:50] {Threei}  1:1
01[11:50] {Threei}  good kitty
[11:50] {Les} screwed exit, taken as scalp. ty
[11:51] {dino} bcei?
01[11:52] {Threei}  no news
[11:53] {dino} notes offering yesterday, thats all
01[11:53] {Threei}  hmmm... I heard Finns are as avid drinkers as Russians... now I have confirmation:
01[11:54] {Threei}  (EU) Finland PM Katainen: More integration is needed in Europe, EU nations need to help each other through the crisis- EU member states still need to take responsibility for themselves. - Crisis response process has changed for the better. - Difficult to say who should pay for the crisis. - Europe is on track to banking union
01[11:54] {Threei}  not even yesterday dino, Apr 4
[11:54] {dino} ok, ty
01[11:55] {Threei}  (SI) ECB's Kranjec: Unjustified to compare Slovenia to Cyprus, situation is serious but a bailout program can be avoided
01[11:55] {Threei}  wanna bet, Kranjec?
01[11:56] {Threei}  1:2 close enough, out
01[12:03] {Threei}  you may find it funny but...
[12:03] {Les} hmmmm
01[12:03] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .50 break hl
[12:03] {Les} oh, here i thoiught it was gonna be a joke :)
01[12:03] {Threei}  if it were, I would say: you won't fund it funny
[12:03] {Les} gotchya
01[12:04] {Threei}  my jokes usually entertain 14 years old
[12:04] {Les} works for nemo then
[12:04] {nemo} mmmhhh
01[12:04] {Threei}  why do you think Seinfield never took seriously the threat of my competition...
[12:05] {nemo} it scares me that Les passed on his genes
[12:05] {Les} ah come on who else is gonna entertain you here?
[12:06] {nemo} with you les it's enterPAINment
[12:07] {Les} LOL not bad not bad
[12:12] {Les} http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/ouch-blackberrys-new-z10-is-a-bleeder.html/?fb_comment_id=fbc_237971149675956_1008766_237973553009049
[12:12] {Les} BBRY hanging at the lows
[12:14] {Les} cut CAT -.02 wanna go do my pyjama party. back for close
01[12:17] {Threei}  no one dares to ask
01[12:17] {Threei}  thank god
[12:18] {jdetente} so he cut his cat and went to a pajama party
[12:18] {jdetente} sounds very German to me...
[12:18] {Will49} code for...?
01[12:21] {Threei}  don't Will...
[12:21] {Will49} OK
[12:22] {Will49} Les already has lowered the bar too far
01[12:22] {Threei}  one thing I learned dealing with nemo, and I suspect it's as true for Les, is: think twice before asking any questions, you might get an answer...
[12:22] {Will49} good policy
[12:22] {nemo} mmmhhh
01[12:25] {Threei}  1:1 baby
[12:25] {Will49} YES!
01[12:25] {Threei}  3 short on the same stock in a row
01[12:27] {Threei}  Will, I hope you are rethinking your take on cats...
[12:27] {dino} hmmm, stepped away and partial fill bcei .01
01[12:27] {Threei}  it's profitable, and you want to avoid that coming back as a mice
01[12:28] {Threei}  mouse
01[12:29] {Threei}  1:2
[12:30] {thomcbell} bvei reminding me a bit of kors yesterday - much thinner stock though
[12:31] {thomcbell} biggest volume print of the day just happened around 36.25
[12:31] {thomcbell} waiting for a setup now
[12:31] {thomcbell} bcei
[12:37] {dino} missed the whoosh to.01
[12:37] {dino} added ave .20 now
[12:37] {thomcbell} i got a bit there
[12:38] {dino} i caught only 100 @ .01
[12:40] {thomcbell} vwap 36.91
[12:40] {thomcbell} dino
[12:40] {thomcbell} as u know
[12:41] {dino} s3 36.68 tho
[12:42] {dino} close to prev rejection
[12:50] {thomcbell} prlb oof
01[12:52] {Threei}  someone had too much of that BC flag:
01[12:52] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/LX4wE
[12:58] {thomcbell} dino - looks like a good setup long bcei - 36.50 break if holding 36.40
[12:58] {thomcbell} that just went
[12:59] {thomcbell} i am using vwap as my target right now
[13:02] {dino} me too
[13:12] {dino} out bcei .81, +.61
[13:12] {dino} was laying out
[13:14] {thomcbell} molto bene -
[13:14] {thomcbell} didn t quite get to me at 36.90
[13:18] {dino} here to comes
[13:30] {thomcbell} barely got any off
[13:30] {thomcbell} feels ok though
[13:34] {thomcbell} oh well- sold a bit
[13:38] {dino} gappy trader
[13:45] {dino} hlf spike
01[13:49] {Threei}  Herbalife Ltd. Ticking higher on report out of court hearing indicating that the former KPMG partner London had heard that Herbalife was going to go private - financial press- KPMG's London allegedly passed this insider information on to his contact Bryan Shaw
[13:52] {cc_9} ACAD is killing the wanna be fade shorters todat
01[13:56] {Threei}  (US) House Speaker Boehner (R-OH): President Obama's budget is not a compromise but instead a 'step backwards'; not hopeful of budget deal- House will review the gun legislation passed by the Senate } - Reminder: Yesterday Boehner noted that Obama deserves some credit for changes to entitlements and was hopeful could reach a budget agreement. Boehner also mentioned that Obama had backtracked on entitlement reform in his chained CPI proposal
[14:03] {dino} roc spike
01[14:06] {Threei}  hmmm... why did we miss GDX .40 break
[14:10] {dino} bmc spike
[14:14] {thomcbell} prlb double bottom ish - but might be too many sitting on losing positions
[14:14] {dino} zumz sm s .85
[14:23] {dino} zumz to .55
[14:23] {dino} cov +.30
[14:33] {dino} prlb spanked today
[14:35] {thomcbell} and was strong as anything this am
[14:36] {dino} $5 range
[14:38] {dino} bbby drop
[14:40] {Les} what r we in?
[14:40] {nemo} you...coma
[14:40] {dino} cbi still from .46
[14:42] {Les} slw short .15?
01[14:43] {Threei}  looks good
[14:44] {dino} cbi to .79
01[14:45] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .30 break
[14:47] {dino} out cbi .78, +.32
[14:48] {Les} hedging with the miners again
01[14:48] {Threei}  yup
[14:53] {Les} slw valid?
01[14:53] {Threei}  yes but I'd like to see a min or two comsolidation before the break
[14:54] {Les} k
01[14:54] {Threei}  GDX is solidly invalidated, needs new formation
[15:01] {Les} IWM vwap rejection here
[15:05] {nemo} http://bit.ly/120pGxR  only in Massachusetts.  Of course we had a judge throw out an illegal gun posession case because the police had no right to expect that a known gang banger might be carrying a gun in a GUN CASE in public.
[15:12] {nemo} ffiv might come in here
[15:13] {dino} srpt drop
[15:14] {Les} traders dropping C
[15:17] {dino} bbby sm l .85
01[15:18] {Threei}  GDX is valid again
[15:21] {Les} bbry .50 short?
01[15:22] {Threei}  if stays under .60, yes
[15:22] {Les} k
[15:24] {thomcbell} long setup bcei 36.50 long break if holding 36.40
[15:24] {Les} how stupid of me to think I could borrow
[15:28] {nemo}  {Les} how stupid of me to think
01[15:28] {Threei}  SLW 1:1
01[15:28] {Threei}  I was wondering whther nemo was conscious
[15:29] {Les} like a little fishy. gotta give the right bait
01[15:29] {Threei}  that was such a low hanging fruit
[15:29] {nemo} yeah sorry, early doctor's appt.
01[15:29] {Threei}  ahh
[15:29] {dino} fishy fishy fishy
[15:30] {Les} http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/researcher-shows-how-to-hack-and-crash-a-passenger-aircraft-with-an-android-phone-8569117.html
[15:31] {Les} hacking planes with android
[15:31] {Les} brave new world
01[15:40] {Threei}  lol... remember my prediction that they won't be able to get out of that capital control regime?
01[15:40] {Threei}  (CY) Cyprus Finance Ministry reportedly extends capital controls for another 7 days; will allow transactions of up to �300K within the country
[15:41] {thomcbell} bcei triggered
[15:41] {thomcbell} long
[15:41] {Les} within the country. Yeh get those condo projects sold hey...
[15:41] {thomcbell} target 1:3
[15:41] {Les} still sucking the tit of foreign investors, or trying anyway
[15:42] {thomcbell} market not cooperating
01[15:42] {Threei}  what can they do? the moment they lift the lid, money flies out of the country in a blink of eye
01[15:42] {Threei}  imbeciles
[15:43] {Les} you can't take it out, but you can spend it on our fine real estate... poor dicks
01[15:44] {Threei}  GDX 1:1
01[15:44] {Threei}  SLW 1:2
[15:44] {Les} last weeks low next stop
01[15:45] {Threei}  this threatens to be Will's best day ever
[15:45] {thomcbell} bcei 1:1 kind of
[15:46] {dino} gj tbell
[15:46] {Will49} could be!
[15:46] {dino} sweet will
01[15:47] {Threei}  between C, GDX, SLW and CAT, killer day
01[15:47] {Threei}  quite relaxing too
01[15:47] {Threei}  no stress
[15:47] {Will49} easy for you to say
01[15:47] {Threei}  yup... that's what no stress means {G}
[15:48] {dino} ngvc drop
01[15:48] {Threei}  in fact, today is so easy that I am thinking of using the rest of the day to go solve Mid East conflict
[15:48] {Will49} haha
[15:48] {thomcbell} bcei 1:2
[15:50] {dino} how you going to do that? toss a couple nukes?
[15:51] {Les} booyah
01[15:51] {Threei}  maybe deploy my scalping techniques... {G}
[15:55] {thomcbell} bcei 1:3 and out
[15:55] {cc_9} 5 mins to go
[15:55] {cc_9} below or above 159 on SPY close
[15:58] {dino} out bbby .08, +.23
[15:58] {Will49} nice day Vad tks
01[15:59] {Threei}  thank you all
01[15:59] {Threei}  have a great evening
01[15:59] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:59] {Will49} cheers
[16:00] {dino} gn all, thx for ideas
[16:01] {Les} cheers

Wednesday, April 10, 2013

Apr 10 2013

And just like that, we are back to a winning streak with a very solid performance; GDX gave two short entries for 1:3 and 1:2, C gave long for 1:2 etc etc. We also had a little discussion about some trading philosophy with quotes from A Taoist Trader. Scroll through the log to see nice trades and good conversation  And some not very funny jokes, as usual.

Session Time: Wed Apr 10 00:00:00 2013
[09:10] {dino} gm
[09:10] {nemo} don't do that to me, dino
01[09:10] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:10] {Les} GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
[09:10] {dino} ?
[09:10] {Les} someone drink too much hey?
[09:11] {nemo} define "too much"?
01[09:11] {Threei}  hmmm
[09:11] {Les} 3 glasses
01[09:11] {Threei}  asylum is open
[09:11] {nemo} one of life's unanswerable questions
[09:11] {Les} philosophers café vad
[09:11] {nemo} rate's right up there with, "Why was Les born..."
[09:12] {Les} bwaaahahaahahahaaaa
[09:12] {Les} why is the night black....
[09:12] {nemo} Wonder if the gods are gonna' make me do another rotation in this hell-hole
[09:14] {Les} silverlight u suck
[09:15] {nemo} make sure you have the latest upgrade to silverlight...have to uninstall the old one first
01[09:15] {Threei}  {Silverlight} I know... all goldbugs say so
[09:15] {Les} sigh
[09:15] {Les} that's gotta be the worse I've heard this week
[09:21] {jdetente} gm
[09:21] {thomcbell} bbry looks squeezable thru 15 today 
[09:21] {Will49} gm
01[09:21] {Threei}  jd, tbell, will :)
01[09:21] {Threei}  *(US) MINUTES OF THE MAR 20 FOMC MEETING: 1 MEMBER THINKS TAPER SHOULD BEGIN IMMEDIATELY, A FEW WANT QE TO END OR BE REDUCED BEFORE LONG; A FEW THINK PURCHASES SHOULD CONTINUE AT CURRENT PACE UNTIL LATE IN THE YEAR
[09:22] {cipher} gm
01[09:23] {Threei}  cipher :)
[09:23] {Alexs} good morning
01[09:23] {Threei}  alex :)
[09:26] {backman} gm
01[09:26] {Threei}  bman :)
[09:26] {Les} opening hit on SLW .50 if holding .60?
01[09:29] {Threei}  SLW needs a few minutes after open for the spread to tioghten
[09:31] {thomcbell} wow slw 
[09:31] {Les} lol just got back from the kitchen
[09:31] {nemo} new spy highs
01[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .30 break hl
01[09:33] {Threei}  If holds  .20 
[09:33] {nemo} wow, that's a spread for LVS
[09:33] {Les} nice spread
01[09:34] {Threei}  that's why hl
[09:34] {cipher} FAST L .99
[09:34] {cipher} out .24 +.25
[09:34] {thomcbell} kors bizarre drop 
01[09:35] {Threei}  SPY S&P 500 sets fresh all-time high above 1,576.09 (Oct 2007)
01[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .70 break
01[09:36] {Threei}  If holds  .80 
[09:38] {dino} titn gap around 20.30 november
01[09:40] {Threei}  no go lvs
01[09:41] {Threei}  trail GDX to .76
01[09:42] {Threei}  GDX 1:1
01[09:43] {Threei}  1:2
01[09:44] {Threei}  1:3, out
[09:44] {Will49} nice Vad
01[09:45] {Threei}  about time
[09:45] {cipher} expd s .50
01[09:45] {Threei}  gross misbehavior by GDX yesterday
01[09:45] {Threei}  atoning for it this morning
[09:45] {Les} how dare people buy the miners...
[09:45] {thomcbell} hah
[09:46] {cipher} cov EXPD .42
01[09:46] {Threei} Long Setup:  GDX  .50 break
01[09:46] {Threei}  If holds  .40 
[09:46] {cipher} EXPD L .17
[09:48] {cipher} EXPD=FAST
[09:48] {thomcbell} long setup dnkn 39.02 break if holding 38.86 - half lot 
01[09:48] {Threei}  nope, not ready yet
01[09:49] {Threei} Long Setup:  BBRY  .65 break
01[09:49] {Threei}  If holds  .55 
[09:51] {Les} DT spy?
[09:51] {Les} don't wanna sell it at the ATH though
01[09:51] {Threei}  don't see it
[09:51] {Les} k
[09:52] {cipher} out FAST .44  +.27
[09:55] {ese} do do do do.........just a playin away....forgettin to sign in........L mnkd .27
[09:56] {thomcbell} kors small long 54.10
[09:56] {ese} I really think his handle should be c3po
[09:56] {Les} GDX strengthening
[09:56] {ese} forget the c8 stuff
01[09:57] {Threei}  BBRY stop to .59
01[09:58] {Threei}  half out
01[09:58] {Threei}  it's so hesitant near 1:1, let's respect the hesitation
01[09:58] {Threei}  stop to .64
[09:59] {dino} back in hour or so, just sold a flip, sign papers
01[09:59] {Threei}  congratulations
[09:59] {dino} :)
01[10:00] {Threei}  (US) Senate Minority leader McConnell (R-KY): Wondering if Obama wants to 'blow up the budget process'; Obama budget is 'not a serious plan'
[10:00] {Les} real estate? GJ
[10:00] {dino} house
01[10:00] {Threei}  dino applies scalping skills to RE, Les
[10:00] {Les} lol that how you coin it hey?
[10:00] {dino} just doing my job
[10:01] {Les} I know it ain't all bad news in that market over yer way
[10:01] {dino} i buy foreclosures, 2 or 3 a year, fix and flip
[10:02] {Les} cover last GDX .32
[10:02] {nemo} spy will likely test 158
[10:02] {Les} good use of yer gains I'm guessing
[10:03] {Les} GDX 61.8% fib retrace support here of entire 2009/12 rally
[10:03] {thomcbell} out kors 54.70
[10:05] {Will49} nice
[10:05] {cipher} CLMT L .76
[10:05] {Les} BBY squeeze finished
[10:06] {Les} will be looking to short it at resistance of here at S3
[10:06] {Les} vwap resistance or s3 .60
01[10:07] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .10 break
01[10:07] {Threei}  If holds  .20 
[10:08] {cipher} OPEN L .67
[10:08] {ese} out mnkd .33 +/- .00
[10:09] {nemo} shit...rum bottle empty
[10:09] {jdetente} switch to bourbon
[10:09] {nemo} don't have any
[10:09] {jdetente} gin?
[10:09] {nemo} mmmhhhh....rubbing alcohol?
01[10:09] {Threei}  you came unprepared?
[10:09] {Les} yer fathers pills dude
[10:09] {Les} speaking of which, how is he?
[10:12] {cipher} out OPEN .89 +.21
[10:12] {nemo} eye is better, early appointment tomorrow
[10:13] {Les} cool
[10:13] {Will49} CAT still valid?
01[10:14] {Threei}  yes, just keep it to hl
[10:14] {Will49} tks
[10:14] {cipher} out CLMT .01 +.25
[10:15] {Les} JPM at R3 and hesitating, but watching for consolidation and next lift off. C 45 is tempting target
[10:16] {Les} try and get long a bankster squeeze day if it is one
01[10:17] {Threei}  GDX is still sliding
01[10:17] {Threei}  wow
01[10:21] {Threei}  1:1
01[10:21] {Threei}  if I wanted to suffer long and deep, was gl utton for punishment lasting for years... I'd become a goldbug
[10:22] {nemo} or get married
01[10:22] {Threei}  that I did
[10:22] {Will49} lol
[10:22] {Les} BBRY back to previous low. short .55?
01[10:22] {Threei}  inverted C&H
01[10:23] {Threei}  I like
[10:23] {Will49} imagine the pain of being married, a goldbug and living in Switzerland
01[10:23] {Threei}  lol
01[10:23] {Threei}  in the winter
[10:23] {Les} still winter here
[10:23] {Les} can't borrow
01[10:23] {Threei}  and les can't even answer, busy shorting BBRY
[10:23] {nemo} I think I feel worse for Les' wife
[10:24] {Les} don't need to Nemo, she knows what she must suffer now until death or diverce does us apart
01[10:24] {Threei}  or she might poison you
[10:25] {Les} or herself. Drinks like a fish
[10:25] {nemo} well...
[10:25] {nemo} that's just too easy
01[10:25] {Threei}  hemlock works, as Socrates found out
[10:25] {Les} try keeping it to yourself, that might be moreof a challenge :P
[10:25] {nemo} I think I'd prefer drawn and quartered
[10:33] {thomcbell} looking for a long setup on kors Vad style 
[10:34] {thomcbell} 54.38 break if holding 54.20 half lot 
[10:40] {thomcbell} kors switching to full lot if holding 54.30
[10:42] {thomcbell} kors invalid
01[10:43] {Threei} Long Setup:  C  45 break
01[10:43] {Threei}  If holds  .90 
01[10:44] {Threei}  1:1 in a blink of eye and with huge volume spike
[10:50] {Les} damn missed bby
[10:54] {thomcbell} im still going to keep eye on kors 54.38 long break - weird action 
[10:55] {thomcbell} and it wont be a scalp for me 
01[10:57] {Threei}  1:2
01[11:00] {Threei}  (SI) Slovenia Banking Association Chief: Govt has been too slow to clean up the banking sector, expects one state owned bank to be sold but unclear at what point in time
[11:01] {thomcbell} kors pop 
01[11:01] {Threei}  guess who is on TV
01[11:02] {Threei}  long tome no limelight
[11:02] {Les} santa claus
01[11:02] {Threei}  you wish
01[11:02] {Threei}  (US) President Obama: Budget today is a blueprint for jobs and growth; makes targeted investments to create jobs immediately
01[11:02] {Threei}  uhhu
01[11:03] {Threei}  blueprint for govt growth and taxpayer-financed jovs
01[11:03] {Threei}  jobs
[11:03] {thomcbell} got 0.20 cents on krs so far - i am looking for near $55 
01[11:03] {Threei}  wtg
[11:04] {cc_9} When we start counting food/energy into the cpi and the real job #s (not marginalizing those who gave up), then we talk about the economy. Right now its just silly.
[11:06] {thomcbell} kors + 0.40 
[11:06] {Will49} nice thom
[11:06] {cipher} wtg
[11:06] {dino} .
[11:06] {thomcbell} tu 
01[11:07] {Threei}  but cc_9... then we might have to face that thing called reality... whno wants that
[11:08] {cipher} KORS S .87
[11:10] {cipher} cov .77
[11:10] {thomcbell} out 1/3 kors 54.82
[11:11] {thomcbell} out 2nd 1/3 54.86 - kors
[11:12] {thomcbell} flat kors - 54.73 
[11:16] {Will49} out C tks Vad
01[11:17] {Threei}  :)
[11:20] {thomcbell} vad high volume spinning top on 15 min spy
01[11:21] {Threei}  I wouldn't expect a drop... rather a stall
[11:21] {thomcbell} cipher thanks for that short entry on kors - helped me sell the position well
[11:22] {cipher} np
[11:23] {nemo} PRU under .80 looks good
[11:25] {nemo} volume spiked
[11:25] {thomcbell} prlb had a huge move today and now all the way to huge round number 
[11:25] {thomcbell} good spot for a long pattern failure
[11:27] {thomcbell} kors 55 
[11:27] {thomcbell} hehe
[11:27] {Les} BBRY back to lows 
[11:27] {nemo} GDX might be a good short here against 35
[11:28] {thomcbell} oh vad look at that on prlb 
01[11:29] {Threei}  I don't want to
01[11:32] {Threei}  ok... I looked anyway
[11:33] {nemo} clf probably a short here
[11:37] {nemo} nope 
01[11:37] {Threei}  - The FOMC minutes were released early this morning at 09:00ET, instead of 14:00ET, after the accidental disclosure of the information yesterday afternoon. The minutes themselves exposed the lively debate over the right time to begin winding down Fed asset purchases. All but a few officials agreed that the program should continue until at least midyear. Some said buying should taper down around midyear, others felt buying should continue through September before tapering, and a few wanted buying to continue at its current pace into 2014.
[11:37] {cc_8} Among the companies with shares expected to actively trade in Wednesday’s session are Health Management Associates Inc. (HMA), Family Dollar Stores Inc. (FDO) and Adtran Inc. (ADTN).
01[11:48] {Threei}  68% View Margaret Thatcher Favorably
01[11:49] {Threei}  you wouldn't say that seeing lefties dancing on her grave
[11:50] {dino} she saved the uk imo
01[12:06] {Threei}  grrr... PRLB... tbell, why would you do that to me, now I can't stop watching it
[12:15] {cipher} RGLD L .72
[12:16] {thomcbell} prlb crazy crazy move
01[12:16] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .90 break
01[12:17] {Threei}  you'll never let me live that down tbell, will ya? :)
[12:18] {thomcbell} i dont remember 
01[12:27] {Threei}  die softly, GDX
[12:27] {Will49} no...diehard
[12:27] {Les} no I have preference for quick and horrible myself
01[12:27] {Threei}  or that
01[12:27] {Threei}  I won't mind
01[12:31] {Threei}  good boy GDX
01[12:31] {Threei}  die more
01[12:31] {Threei}  and faster
[12:34] {cipher} RGLD stopped -.16
01[12:34] {Threei}  1:1
01[12:34] {Threei}  GDX dies harder and faster
[12:35] {Will49} yeah man
[12:35] {dino} another slow day
[12:35] {Les} sounds like a repeat
[12:35] {Will49} you win Vad
01[12:35] {Threei}  of course I do
01[12:35] {Threei}  I am never wrong
01[12:35] {Threei}  Once I thought I was wrong,
01[12:35] {Threei}  but I was wrong about that
[12:36] {Will49} LOL
01[12:36] {Threei}  I also was wrong saying that I was wrong... I should have said mistaken
01[12:36] {Threei}  1:2
[12:40] {nemo} http://bit.ly/12IpgP4  time to go long gold
[12:42] {nemo} this should be the top
[12:45] {Les} testing top of channel
[12:45] {thomcbell} kors - 
[12:45] {nemo} MR1 WR2 dead ahead, let's hope we get TITANIC action
[12:45] {cipher} GLD L .79
[12:47] {nemo} all european markets basically closed on their highs
01[12:49] {Threei}  I am not sure why GS advertises their action so openly this time, but I generally agree with their call
01[12:49] {Threei}  more than that, I see gold going much lower than they say
01[12:50] {Threei}  although they also made a reservation for that:
01[12:50] {Threei}  �In fact, should our expectation for lower gold prices continue to prove correct, the fall in prices could end up being faster and larger than our forecast,� they said.
[12:50] {thomcbell} LOKS LIKE 1150
[12:51] {Les} clean em out. All the believers following Sprott, Rodgers and the others
01[12:51] {Threei}  gold bug writers lead people to slaughter, IMO
01[12:52] {Threei}  just as they did with oil
[12:52] {Les} oil?
[12:52] {Les} when?
01[12:52] {Threei}  drop from 150 to 40
[12:53] {cc_9} Anyone trading SRPT today ?
[12:53] {cc_9} Some profit taking fro that ramp yesterday
01[12:53] {Threei}  not me
01[12:54] {Threei}  wake up Les... you are not THAT young not to remember the great oil pump and dump
[12:55] {Les} don't rmember the particulars
01[12:55] {Threei}  gimme a sec
[12:55] {nemo} his age has nothing to do with it Vad
[12:55] {Les} was just beginning to pick up the first pieces off of Cara at the time
01[12:57] {Threei}  A similar story arose in the oil price explosion with price reaching $150 in the summer of 2008 only to drop back to under $40 � all the while experts predicted it going higher and higher.
01[12:58] {Threei}  A Taoist Trader, pg 148
01[12:58] {Threei}  now, pg 181 for some details
01[12:59] {Threei}  let�s look at the action of a trader who ignores such signs. Convinced that favorable price action will continue, he ignores the first signs of a problem. To help visualize such a situation, let�s recall a very recent example � peak of the oil prices in the summer of 2008 at $147.27. All kinds of prognoses for the trend to continue were made everywhere with price targets at $200, $300 etc.
01[12:59] {Threei}  Price however started declining. By itself, it wouldn�t be a reason to exit the trade � no trend goes in a straight line without pullbacks. However, a series of lower highs and lower lows made against the backdrop of calls for a further run-up was a strong warning sign.
01[12:59] {Threei}  This is where that extremely damaging emotional cycle started developing for those who ignored early signs of troubles. While the retreat from the high was relatively small (about $22 over first two weeks), it was easy to ignore. In a month, it dropped to $112 - $35 decline.
01[13:00] {Threei}  Such cut in profits was harder to accept, and many traders started convincing themselves that they had to sit it out, rationalizing their decision by all kinds of fundamental explanations for the inevitable and imminent price rise. In about two months, the price broke below $100.
01[13:00] {Threei}  Vicious destruction of hopes and trading accounts continued for a few months more, taking the price under $40 (!) before a rebound finally started. Curiously enough (although not at all unpredictable), as the price declined that much, negative predictions became overwhelming, calling for even lower prices and causing desperate holders to bail out � close to eventual bottom, of course.
01[13:00] {Threei}  end
[13:00] {Les} C flagging for breakout beyond .10?
[13:01] {Les} will look that chapter up again
[13:02] {ese} Ok.......certainly not contributing much on the board........I'm Denmark bound....am gonna try to log on while i'm over there to watch you all become filthy stinking rich.......in the meantime take care cya in a week.......Les!!! get the coffee on
01[13:02] {Threei}  have a safe trip ese
[13:02] {Les} cheers ese
[13:02] {ese} tks vad les
01[13:02] {Threei}  while you are there, try to find out whether it's as rotten as Shakespeare thought
[13:03] {dino} cya ese
[13:03] {nemo} it will be when he gets there
[13:04] {nemo} o.k. 
[13:04] {nemo} top
[13:06] {Les} JPM ain't showing the love
[13:07] {Les} C 45 short?
01[13:08] {Threei}  hl... not too sure
[13:09] {Les} vwap .10 lower. will let it go and watch
[13:17] {Les} slw .50 short?
[13:19] {Les} sm s .48
[13:20] {thomcbell} KORS WANTS GREEN
[13:27] {Will49} good call thom
01[13:29] {Threei}  you know, I don't think he called it.. it rather sounded like he told CORS
01[13:29] {Threei}  "you want green, got it??"
[13:29] {Will49} yes...looks like an order doesn't it?
01[13:29] {Threei}  KORS said yes sir
01[13:29] {Threei}  I do sir
01[13:29] {Threei}  how high sir?
[13:32] {Les} C trying for HoD again
[13:32] {Les} half slw covereed .40
01[13:33] {Threei}  SLW 1:1
01[13:33] {Threei}  nice and easy day
01[13:33] {Threei}  woever thought of throwing a stone at me yesterday, should have done that... told you, it was not going to be a long-standing opportunity
[13:34] {Will49} yea, I'm at 5 wins in a row, first time i think
01[13:34] {Threei}  got one funny e-mail yesteday, let me find it
01[13:36] {Threei}  I am a regular at your trading log, and I was glad to see a losing day you posted yesterday. Don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy someone ele's losses, but your consistent winning made me feel depressed a little. Glad to see you are a human too.
01[13:36] {Threei}  I answered:
[13:37] {Will49} sihn up
[13:37] {Will49} sign
01[13:37] {Threei}  I am not, but I have to pretend, lest they chase me off thia planet which I find full of bacon and generally enjoyable.
[13:40] {Les} lotta pushing and pulling in the silver futures pit today
[13:41] {Les} doubt he got the joke vad
01[13:41] {Threei}  come on... it's not that thickly veiled :)
[13:42] {Les} given his depression vis a vis your winning, I'm guessing his outlook on life is tainted
[13:42] {Les} your response makes me think of Monty Python
01[13:43] {Threei}  I think his depression refernce was half-joke
[13:44] {Les} oh
[13:44] {Les} were you the messiah in previous life?
[13:44] {Les} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI
01[13:44] {Threei}  those who are really depressed by PMs and miners pounding and irriated by my write-ups, don't generally read my logs... they stew in their own juices
01[13:48] {Threei}  I like that Shwarzenegger spoof more
01[13:48] {Threei}  can't find it on the fly
01[13:49] {Threei}  where he was saving JC
[13:49] {Les} hehehe
[13:49] {Les} got it on FB
01[13:49] {Threei}  post a link
01[13:49] {Threei}  that was the funniest thing ever
[13:49] {Les} gold miners running
01[13:50] {Threei}  (US) Preview: Mar Monthly Budget Statement due out at 14:00ET**Consensus expectation: -$107.0Be v -$198.2B year ago March - Feb budget deficit at -$203.5B was widest deficit since Feb 2012.
[13:51] {thomcbell} long setup slw 28.40 break 
[13:51] {thomcbell} if holding 28.30 for a chop?
01[13:52] {Threei}  I am not very ethuisatic, tbell
01[13:52] {Threei}  feels like spitting in the wind to me
[13:53] {thomcbell} y
01[13:53] {Threei}  no clear signs of trend change
01[13:53] {Threei}  GDX does show signs of reversal, but SLW is weaker
[14:03] {Les} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-J1AHjm0v0
01[14:03] {Threei}  this is it, thanks :)
[14:11] {Les} 2H SLW stop
[14:20] {cc_9} This market knows no gravity.
01[14:23] {Threei}  haven't you heard? gravity has been abolished by Fed
01[14:23] {Threei}  come on man, get with the program
[14:23] {Les} temporarily suspended
[14:33] {Les} once again surprised by today's action. Ignored C .20/.25 setup. Market struggling
01[14:36] {Threei}  why suprised?
[14:37] {Les} wary of squeeze as new HoD was being tested. Price collapsed bit too easily.
[14:37] {Les} or eager longs were just given a good rinsing can't tell
01[14:39] {Threei}  I guess I do very little assuming or expectatikon... thus not getting surprised easily
[14:41] {Les} C squeezed me a few sessions earlier so just wary at this point
[14:41] {cc_9} Fed borrows @ 0%
[14:42] {cc_9} banks borrow at o %
[14:42] {cc_9} fed prints 85B a month
[14:42] {cc_9} treasury at near 0%
[14:42] {cc_9} fed balance sheet exceeds 3T
01[14:42] {Threei}  going somewhere with that? :)
[14:42] {cc_9} markets move on rumors and announcements
[14:42] {cc_9} money can evaporate a la corzine
[14:42] {cc_9} stock market and not called Casino
[14:43] {cc_9} I am not sure what is what anymore.
01[14:43] {Threei}  no one is
[14:43] {cc_9} :(
01[14:43] {Threei}  thus taking it one day at a time... stocking ammos and whiskey
[14:43] {dino} news doesn't matter, it's the reaction that counts
[14:44] {nemo} iwm new highs wtf
[14:44] {cc_9} From my cold drunken hands.
[14:44] {Les} I have had years of difficulty grappling with these fundies and the market. Dumping the fundies has helped greatly
01[14:44] {Threei}  here is an angle that will help grasp what's happening
[14:45] {nemo} thanks for the reminder cc
01[14:45] {Threei}  this is not about market fundamentals, or technicals, and not even about market at all,
01[14:45] {Threei}  this also not about monetary policies,
01[14:45] {Threei}  all this stuff is derivative.
01[14:46] {Threei}  What it really is about is desintegration of the fabric of scoeity
01[14:46] {Threei}  society too
[14:46] {nemo} plenty of 5.56 on hand
01[14:46] {Threei}  You guys lived for too long in too stable society, it's hard for you to imagine its collapse
01[14:47] {Threei}  For those who lived through Soviet empire annihilation is much easier to envision
[14:47] {cc_9} People need to forget the term Debt, the US does not need to pay its debts, and it won't ever pay its debts.
[14:47] {cc_9} What you said is correct, its not about the markets, that is only the surface, the iceberg is much bigger under the water.
01[14:47] {Threei}  well, no paying it is a form of collapse, because funding will disappear
01[14:48] {Threei}  music plays while someone buys bonds
[14:48] {cc_9} Funding will not disapear, China, Saudi etc...have to keep on buying.
01[14:48] {Threei}  oh but it will
[14:48] {dino} problem w/the debt is it takes greater part of budget to support it
[14:48] {cc_9} They have nowhere else to sit their cash in, they are already pot commited, we just keep printing IOUs
01[14:48] {Threei}  when no one but Fed remained to do that, money will lose underklying confidence
[14:49] {nemo} things get more interesting when other currencies rise, or fall, as is the case with the euro
[14:49] {Les} ITS THE C WORD!
[14:49] {Les} probably the most intelligent thing Kaimu has ever said
[14:49] {Will49} so...this has been going on for 70 years, why not another 70 years?
[14:49] {cc_9} Our only hope is that bitcoin reaches $1,000 per btc lol.
01[14:49] {Threei}  nothing lasts forever... but yes, Euro collapse will help
[14:49] {dino} cc9, w/respect, look at greece, etc. sure you can print but rates become prohibitive
[14:49] {nemo} Les judging intelligence...the Rapture is at hand
01[14:50] {Threei}  as USD will remain the skinniest girl in a fat camp
[14:50] {nemo} with a gag reflex
[14:50] {cc_9} dino, I do agree, but the US is at the top of the scheme, the rest is fully aware that the game must go on.
[14:50] {dino} and bitcoin will be made illegal as soon as govt sees it working to y-pass taxes
01[14:50] {Threei}  this is very true
[14:50] {cc_9} They will keep pumping oil, they will keep using its proceeds to buy toxic debt
01[14:50] {Threei}  but it's about the last chair...
[14:50] {cc_9} Yes
01[14:51] {Threei}  the music WILL stop
[14:51] {nemo} Gawd I want to short this, but so does everybody else
01[14:51] {Threei}  don't
01[14:51] {Threei}  this bubble is far from bursting
[14:51] {Les} and then WHAT? that's what scares me
[14:51] {Les} once the music stops..
[14:52] {cc_9} nemo, I know people who went belly up shorting the markets since 2009, starting a new cycle every 6 months.
01[14:52] {Threei}  oh come on
[14:52] {nemo} they make me dictator
[14:52] {cc_9} Never under estimate the power of easy printing.
01[14:52] {Threei}  look at USSR
[14:52] {nemo} run by Pahan
01[14:52] {Threei}  fell apart, and what? life stopped?
[14:52] {nemo} for many, yes
[14:52] {Les} purchasing power, yes
01[14:52] {Threei}  new structures will appear
[14:52] {nemo} lower high spy
[14:53] {Les} 3 min MACD green not touching this
[14:53] {nemo} I'll line up all the liberals...head to head
01[14:53] {Threei}  ask average Russian whether they want to go back to USSR times
01[14:53] {Threei}  average, not the 70 years old who never saw anything different and couldn't adjust to new life
[14:54] {nemo} but now it's a feudal system there...the lords and the serfs
[14:54] {cc_9} i know for a fact Deripaska does not want to go back.
01[14:54] {Threei}  lol
[14:54] {nemo} Captain in the FSB makes $1200 month
[14:54] {nemo} live off that in Moscow
[14:54] {nemo} GFL
01[14:55] {Threei}  he adds in bribes
[14:55] {nemo} I don't know, this one works for Pahan
01[14:55] {Threei}  then he gets a lot of perks
[14:55] {nemo} nah Tzarina a bit on cheap side
[14:57] {Les} great, so I need to become state paid thug to get on in new life
[14:57] {nemo} well, you got the knuckle dragging part down
[14:57] {Les} not everyone is like Nemo... sadistic
[14:57] {nemo} at least I'm artistic about it
[14:58] {nemo} as I've said, my mission in life is to help souls transition
[14:58] {nemo} to the next one
[14:58] {Will49} and humble too, nemo
[14:58] {nemo} facts are facts
[14:59] {Will49} sometimes facts seem like opinion
[14:59] {nemo} could you be more specific?
[14:59] {Will49} no i'm a generalist
[15:00] {nemo} ahhh...
[15:00] {Les} a liberal Nemo. line him up with the rest
[15:00] {Will49} liberal? if you only knew!
[15:00] {nemo} excuuuuseee me!!!!
[15:01] {nemo} I'm quite liberal, have I ever commented negatively on interspecies marriages...I mean your wife married you...
[15:02] {Will49} you talkin' to me...you talkin to me???
[15:02] {backman} said to a guy "take my wife, please"....he replied "been there....done that"
[15:02] {nemo} when is a lower high, not really a lower high
[15:02] {Will49} Henny Youngman joke
[15:02] {nemo} love Travis
[15:02] {Will49} take my wife, please!
[15:03] {backman} :=)....but my tag line is orig
[15:03] {Will49} OK
[15:03] {Will49} betcha half the guys here had to google Henny Youngman
[15:03] {nemo} not really, that's just a corrollary to "Hey bud, got any naked pictures of your wife?"   Well, no...."Want any?"
[15:04] {Will49} LOL
[15:04] {backman} what's Google, sonny?
[15:04] {Will49} :)
[15:04] {Will49} just trying to keep you guys grounded in the past
[15:07] {Will49} given that some of you think the world is going to end
01[15:07] {Threei}  world, no
[15:07] {nemo} humanity....hopefully
[15:07] {Will49} fidure of speech
[15:07] {Will49} figure
01[15:07] {Threei}  overextended system or parts of it, sure
[15:07] {nemo} Malthusian economics
[15:09] {Will49} had to google that
[15:10] {nemo} short busser there Will?
[15:10] {Will49} kind of like him
[15:10] {nemo} I'm more of a Torquemada kinda' dude
[15:11] {Will49} you're way over my head nemo:)
[15:11] {Will49} i'm just a simple guy
[15:11] {nemo} at 5'6" that's unlikely
01[15:11] {Threei}  Torquemada... now, here is a name I haven't heard in decades
[15:12] {Will49} i only have a hundred words in my vocabulary and that aint one of them
01[15:12] {Threei}  nemo, with all his warts and rough skin, is well educated {G}
[15:13] {Will49} so it seems
[15:13] {nemo} I think of it as knowing alot of useless shit
[15:13] {Les} SLW returning to LoD
01[15:13] {Threei}  Spanish inquisitor, famous for rare combination of incredible cruelty and very soft gentle behavior, which made hsi victims especially frightened
[15:13] {nemo} O.K. I won't short this...I'll just drink
[15:14] {Les} c 45 short?
[15:15] {Will49} come on Les, where are your priorities, we're chatting here!
01[15:15] {Threei}  yes
[15:15] {nemo} careful though FAS almost already at support and vwap
[15:15] {nemo} as is C
[15:16] {nemo} oh, bunny just came out from her daytime hiatus
[15:17] {nemo} Hey Will, wait 'til the blogpost on Sunday, I really go academic then...
[15:18] {Will49} I'll be waiting with bated breath
[15:18] {nemo} I'll be nice
01[15:18] {Threei}  hah
01[15:18] {Threei}  that I want to see
[15:19] {Les} u are forbidden to mention my handle
01[15:19] {Threei}  nice nemo is like non-printing Bernanke or non-spending Obama
01[15:19] {Threei}  oxymoron
[15:19] {Will49} gawd how boring
[15:19] {nemo} don't worry Les, I wouldn't want to sully this week's contents with a reference to you
[15:21] {thomcbell} lvs looks like a sneaky long setup here
[15:21] {Les} short slw .30?
[15:22] {Les} a little quick into support
01[15:22] {Threei}  not here
01[15:22] {Threei}  around .40 it was more or less a setup
[15:22] {nemo} finnies bouncing at vwap
[15:23] {backman} surprised GDX not bouncing with this sell off
[15:24] {nemo} ahhh...we're bouncing
[15:38] {nemo} oh jeez, hold on
[15:43] {thomcbell} this prlb is incredible - 
[15:43] {thomcbell} was 44 briefly on friday 
[15:52] {nemo} SPY so far has the WR2 as the ceiling
01[15:55] {Threei}  5.5 eartquake in Honduras
01[15:55] {Threei}  anyone os bothered by it?
[15:55] {Les} yeh
[15:55] {Will49} didn't feel a thing
[15:55] {Les} I'm ignorant as to the location of the Honduras
[15:55] {dino} calling it a day. gn all
[15:55] {nemo} Central America
01[15:55] {Threei}  well... it's one of those things that won't bother you unless you astart scratching it
01[15:56] {Threei}  thank you all, have a great evening
[15:56] {Les} cheers
[15:56] {backman} tu...nite
01[15:56] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:56] {Will49} cheers
[15:56] {nemo} nanananananananananannananana BACKMAN!!!
[15:56] {Will49} great day Vad
01[15:56] {Threei}  :)