Monday, October 21, 2013

Oct 21 2013

Strong opening to the week, with many trades working nicely in both directions. GDX, GLD, CAT (this one gave us one win and one small stop), FB - usual suspects so to speak.


Session Time: Mon Oct 21 00:00:01 2013
[09:06] {dino} gm
01[09:08] {&Threei}  morning dino
[09:15] {dino} empty room today
01[09:16] {&Threei}  folks wake up last minute
[09:18] {RonS} howdy y'all
01[09:18] {&Threei}  ron :)
[09:18] {Will49} gm
01[09:18] {&Threei}  will :)
01[09:19] {&Threei}  see dino, they sleep till last drop of sleep because they haven't discovered the great truth about trading: you don't have to wake up at all for that
[09:20] {nemo} Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." –Mark Twain
[09:20] {nemo} I guess I should stop talking to Les
01[09:21] {&Threei}  judging from my couple weeks ago experience of talking with some members of the most militant BC union, that's true
01[09:22] {&Threei}  you wouldn't believe it... key phrase after which I realized the only way to talk to them is not to talk to them:
[09:22] {Alexs} gm
01[09:23] {&Threei}  "seeing all the unfairness and inequality, why don't we simply transfer all the monetary decisions - pricing, salaries etc - and economic assets to the government, and let people electing it rule themselves"
01[09:23] {&Threei}  alex :)
01[09:24] {&Threei}  I swera, this was actually said, and they all nodded
[09:26] {ese} gm
01[09:26] {&Threei}  ese :)
[09:27] {ese} morning vad
01[09:28] {&Threei}  will, judging by Fri, CAT has something against you personally
01[09:28] {&Threei}  you weren't here, and it performed rather admirably
[09:28] {Will49} i can hardly wait
[09:28] {ese} hmmmm...i see jp morgan has put aside 23B to pay for criminal investagations re mortgage backed securities
[09:29] {thomcbell} banans
[09:29] {thomcbell} bananas
01[09:29] {&Threei}  tbell :)
[09:29] {ese} i'll just take 1 mil of that ......i can then retire
[09:32] {dino} jpm witchhunt is bs. govt begged them to buy bear
[09:32] {thomcbell} yup
01[09:32] {&Threei}  yesterday's favorite is tomorrow's villain
01[09:33] {&Threei}  see Stalin cleansing waves
01[09:33] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .50 break
01[09:33] {&Threei}  If holds  .40
[09:33] {Alexs} long?
01[09:33] {&Threei}  grr
01[09:33] {&Threei}  yes
01[09:33] {&Threei}  lol
01[09:33] {&Threei}  too used to shorting it
01[09:34] {&Threei} Long Setup:  GDX  .50 break
[09:34] {Alexs} took that short alraedy
[09:34] {Will49} me too
01[09:35] {&Threei}  it spent enough tome at .51 to cover...?
[09:37] {thomcbell} brcm very interesting daily pattern
01[09:37] {&Threei}  stop to .44
[09:37] {thomcbell} 27.19 long break at some point
01[09:38] {&Threei}  blast from the past... haven't heard of BRCM in years
[09:38] {cc_9} UNH, this is one to keep an eye on
01[09:39] {&Threei}  half out GDX
01[09:40] {&Threei}  1:1
01[09:41] {&Threei} Short Setup: JPM  .10 break
01[09:41] {&Threei}  If holds  .20
01[09:41] {&Threei}  half lot
[09:41] {cc_9} UNH $0.60 from Friday's lows
01[09:43] {&Threei}  1:2
[09:43] {cc_9} UNH critical here, no position yet
01[09:43] {&Threei}  Invalidated  JPM
[09:45] {cc_9} UNH 67.60 from friday trying to hold here
[09:45] {cc_9} next support $66.00 flat
01[09:46] {&Threei} Short Setup: JPM  .50 break hl
01[09:46] {&Threei}  If holds  .60
01[09:47] {&Threei}  1:1
01[09:50] {&Threei}  (US) Three people have been shot at a Bally's hotel/casino on the Las Vegas strip; suspect is in police custody - local media
[09:52] {thomcbell} brcm 27.21 long break if holding 27.11
01[09:53] {&Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .25 break
01[09:53] {&Threei}  If holds  .20
[09:53] {dino} safm hl l .87
01[09:55] {&Threei}  1:1
[09:56] {nemo} gmcr
[09:56] {dino} egn spike
01[09:58] {&Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .40 break
01[09:58] {&Threei}  If holds  .46
01[10:00] {&Threei}  *(US) SEPT EXISTING HOME SALES: 5.M V 5.30ME
[10:00] {nemo} they'll blame that on the shutdown
01[10:00] {&Threei}  *Reminder: This data is privately collected and was unaffected by the Govt shutdown
01[10:00] {&Threei}  1:1
[10:01] {nemo} what's your point?
01[10:01] {&Threei}  ?
01[10:01] {&Threei}  just copied what I thought was worth of note
[10:01] {nemo} the democrats will blame it on the shutdown
01[10:01] {&Threei}  of course they will
01[10:01] {&Threei}  they will blame poor weather on shutdown
01[10:01] {&Threei}  and hurricane on sequester
01[10:02] {&Threei}  too bad we had no hurricanes to speak of this year
01[10:02] {&Threei}  global warming folks will have to come up with answer to this one... and I suspect shutdown will be the answer
01[10:03] {&Threei}  - Median existing home price: $199.2K v $209.7K m/m (revised from $212.1K) - Total Months Supply: 5 v 4.9 prior - Distressed sales: 14% v 12% prior - All cash sales:33% v 32% m/m
01[10:03] {&Threei}  Yessss:
01[10:03] {&Threei}  - NAR Chief Economist: "Affordability has fallen to a five-year low as home price increases easily outpaced income growth," Expected rising mortgage interest rates will further lower affordability in upcoming months. Next month we may see some delays associated with the government shutdown."
01[10:04] {&Threei}  didn't take long, did it
[10:06] {thomcbell} there is a serious real estate bubble in brooklyn ny
[10:06] {thomcbell} absolutely crazy
01[10:07] {&Threei}  will, you make friends with CAT?
[10:08] {Will49} :)
[10:09] {thomcbell} brcm invalidated but i think still 1/2 lot or buy pullback to 27.10
[10:09] {Will49} trading CAT is like kissin your sister
[10:09] {Alexs} are you in brooklyn tbell?
[10:09] {nemo} well, of course, depending on what your sister looks like...
[10:09] {thomcbell} yes - i live in clinton hill
[10:10] {Alexs} I live in brooklyn too actually don't see any bubble yet
[10:12] {dino} out safm .70, +.83
[10:12] {Will49} nice dino
[10:12] {drewj} wtg dino
[10:12] {dino} ty drew
[10:13] {Will49} applause from the peanut gallery
[10:13] {drewj} :)
[10:13] {Will49} what does that even mean?
[10:15] {thomcbell} nice volume bar on the brcm long break
[10:15] {thomcbell} im there
[10:15] {cc_9} UNH setting up
[10:18] {thomcbell} brcm 1:1
[10:19] {Alexs} fb short .70?
01[10:20] {&Threei}  can't tell
[10:20] {cc_9} VJEt at this pps = playing with fire
01[10:22] {&Threei}  .75 break should finally take last piece of GDX to 1:3
[10:27] {thomcbell} stop on brcm balance to 27.22
01[10:29] {&Threei} Long Setup:  JPM  .50 break
01[10:29] {&Threei}  If holds  .40
[10:29] {thomcbell} flat
[10:29] {thomcbell} brcm
[10:29] {thomcbell} thought that pattern had more oomph than that
[10:29] {thomcbell} market misbehaved
01[10:30] {&Threei}  yeah, market drop put brakes on that
01[10:30] {&Threei}  GDX 1:3
01[10:30] {&Threei}  out
01[10:31] {&Threei}  JPM valid
[10:37] {drewj} jpm still a go?
01[10:37] {&Threei}  yes
[10:37] {ese} L noah .66
[10:39] {thomcbell} looking for swk short setup
[10:39] {thomcbell} pivot way down
[10:40] {ese} nope out noah .50 -.16
01[10:41] {&Threei}  .15 break SWK
[10:43] {Will49} so, is that an alert Vad?
01[10:44] {&Threei}  a bit out of my risk preferences... just tossing an idea to tbell
[10:44] {Will49} ok
[10:45] {Will49} a bit confused why we didn
[10:45] {thomcbell} i think im more interested in shorting a spike up to 77.40 for now
[10:45] {Will49} tinvalidate JPM
[10:45] {Will49} but i'm easily confused
01[10:45] {&Threei}  because it reestablishes after going back in the range and reconsolidating
[10:46] {Will49} you da boss
01[10:46] {&Threei}  when it comes to JPM, Dimon is
[10:46] {Will49} haha
01[10:46] {&Threei}  for now at least
[10:46] {Will49} 23b boss
[10:47] {thomcbell} unh nice
[10:56] {thomcbell} nothing there swk
01[11:00] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .40 break
01[11:00] {&Threei}  If holds  .30
[11:02] {Will49} my sister just walked in
[11:04] {nemo} go kiss her will
[11:05] {Will49} not yet
[11:05] {Will49} i will if we only go 1:1 on CAT
01[11:10] {&Threei}  nah
[11:10] {drewj} it's will's fault
01[11:10] {&Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .10 break
01[11:11] {&Threei}  drew,,, Les is not here, and by unbreakable rule installed by nemo, it's always fault of the one who is not in the room right now
[11:12] {drewj} poor les...
01[11:12] {&Threei}  when Les is in, it's fish's fault
[11:12] {drewj} he sure takes a beating
01[11:12] {&Threei}  until he is bak from Korea
01[11:13] {&Threei}  stop .16 now
01[11:14] {&Threei}  GLD half out
[11:14] {dino} kalu hl l .00
01[11:14] {&Threei}  on Friday we would blame any stop on goinshort... but we had no stops so he lucked out
01[11:14] {&Threei}  stop .11 now
[11:23] {thomcbell} swk looks like a long now
[11:26] {dino} man drop
[11:35] {RonS} took kalu .15 to .65 +.50  thanks dino
01[11:36] {&Threei}  wtg
[11:36] {dino} out kalu .86, +.86
[11:36] {dino} gj ron, yw
[11:37] {dino} brb
01[11:43] {&Threei} Short Setup: FB  .95 break
01[11:43] {&Threei}  If holds  .05
[12:07] {RonS} qcor toasted by Barrons
[12:07] {thomcbell} swk was nice long - didnt play
01[12:09] {&Threei}  QCOR yeah, was in our sunday e-mail
[12:16] {dino} gaps 54.50s and 52
[12:17] {Alexs} makes sense to trail FB to.01?
01[12:17] {&Threei}  after .90 loss
[12:18] {Alexs} ok
01[12:30] {&Threei}  let's trail
01[12:31] {&Threei}  who would have though FB could turn into chinese water torture
[12:31] {drewj} yes normally it moves really fast
[12:31] {Will49} you just picked this trade to keep me away from the pool :)
[12:31] {drewj} or anything actually fun
[12:32] {Will49} yeah
01[12:32] {&Threei}  gotta avoid that prune-like skin, will
[12:32] {Will49} lol
01[12:32] {&Threei}  I do my best to prvent that... anf chlorine bleach
01[12:32] {&Threei}  1:1
01[12:32] {&Threei}  there
01[12:32] {&Threei}  you all are meanies
[12:33] {Will49} :)
[12:33] {drewj} didn't you write an article called the unbearable bordom of trading?
01[12:33] {&Threei}  I am sure I have
01[12:34] {&Threei}  and still you all are so mean to me.... sniff sniff
[12:34] {drewj} omg
[12:35] {drewj} i have never made fun of you but if  you keep it up i might start
06[12:36] * &Threei wieghs a fresh trout in his hand, shrugs, puts it away, opens a freezer and takes out frozen trout, hard as a stone and sharp as a razor
06[12:36] * &Threei slants at drew
[12:36] {drewj} omg
[12:36] {drewj} first you cry now you threaten me
[12:36] {Will49} now you've done it drew
[12:36] {drewj} what a bully
06[12:36] * &Threei lift his left brow with silent question" still want to make fun of me?
[12:37] {drewj} ok vad...i will console you
[12:37] {drewj} do you want a hankie?
06[12:37] * &Threei lifts the trout in launch position
[12:37] {drewj} i'm done...for real
[12:38] {drewj} i count on you too much to waste time upsetting  you
[12:38] {drewj} but the hankie offer still stands
01[12:38] {&Threei}  lol
[12:51] {nemo} time for sentry technique
[12:55] {Will49} is that a sexula thing?
[12:55] {Will49} sexual
01[12:55] {&Threei}  with nemo, most things are
[12:56] {nemo} well, no it's not sexual, but depending on your predilictions it can be quite gratifying
[12:56] {Will49} i see!
[13:00] {Will49} so...what IS the sentry technique?
[13:01] {dino} qcor sm l .06
01[13:10] {&Threei} Long Setup:  JPM  .30 break
01[13:10] {&Threei}  If holds  .22
01[13:11] {&Threei}  if the trade is stopped with such size of a stop, is it "3/4 of no go" or "1 1/2 meh"?
[13:12] {Will49} hmmmm
[13:14] {Alexs} it's go meh yourself
[13:14] {Will49} that's it!
01[13:14] {&Threei}  well, in JPM case many would tell them to do just that, lol
01[13:33] {&Threei}  stop to .24
01[13:33] {&Threei}  now it wualifies for meh
01[13:33] {&Threei}  qualifies
[13:34] {drewj} i'm calling it a day after this one
[13:34] {Alexs} hope it qualifies for 1:3
[13:34] {drewj} me too
01[13:34] {&Threei}  so, we can have 3 1:3ers we have planned for the last hour for ourselves??
01[13:34] {&Threei}  cool
[13:35] {drewj} awwweee
01[13:36] {&Threei}  but that's OK, fear not - if you cry inconsolably, I will hand you that hankie back {GGG}
[13:36] {drewj} i was going to make a joke about you crying yourself to sleep but i will keep it to myself
[13:37] {drewj} something about big russian tears hitting the pillow
[13:37] {Will49} only crying vad does is when a bottle of vodka falls and breaks
[13:37] {drewj} i bet
[13:37] {RonS} that's not crying...that's bawling...
[13:37] {Will49} lol
01[13:38] {&Threei}  you guys don't get it... that's one manly tear slowly sliding down the unshaved face
[13:38] {dino} qcor to .50
01[13:39] {&Threei}  then the sight firmly sets on the one who dropped that bottle, with no expression whatsoever
[13:39] {Will49} yikes
01[13:39] {&Threei}  until he realizes he has to run and get the replacement
[13:39] {dino} out qcor .50, +.44
[13:39] {drewj} nice one dino
01[13:39] {&Threei}  wtg dino
[13:40] {dino} ty
[13:40] {drewj} come on jpm
[13:41] {RonS} took qcor .04  out .65  +.61 thanks dino
[13:41] {Will49} nice one guys
[13:42] {dino} gj ron
[13:43] {drewj} take care guys
[13:43] {drewj} got to go
[13:43] {Will49} c ya drew
01[13:43] {&Threei}  take care drew
01[13:56] {&Threei}  http://myscienceacademy.org/2012/08/19/world-renown-heart-surgeon-speaks-out-on-what-really-causes-heart-disease/
[13:56] {cc_9} PBR pop
[13:56] {cc_9} see if it slows down for a short
01[14:03] {&Threei}  meh
[14:05] {Les} hey
01[14:06] {&Threei}  hey Les
[14:07] {cc_9} JCP this is just sad, very sad
[14:07] {Les} GLD approaching the lows
[14:07] {cc_9} new 100 year low
[14:08] {RonS} thinkin bax about 50 cents away from a reversal...
01[14:10] {&Threei}  missed very good morning Les
01[14:10] {&Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .95 break
[14:12] {nemo} bounce time
[14:13] {Les} yeh pisses me off to be working the trading hours
[14:13] {Les} c'est la vie
[14:14] {nemo} doesn't bother me les
[14:14] {Les} you're free to be an a**hole
[14:15] {Les} am I allowed to say that?
[14:15] {Les} sorry... janitor
01[14:15] {&Threei}  well... it's inelegant
[14:16] {Les} I like that
[14:16] {Les} I am feeling ... inelegant tonight
[14:16] {nemo} it's so Les
01[14:16] {&Threei}  I like insults to be sophisticated
[14:16] {Les} take a rain check on that
[14:17] {nemo} bad expectations Vad
01[14:17] {&Threei}  GLD stop is .06 for now
01[14:17] {&Threei}  after .90 loss trail to .01
[14:18] {Les} http://tinyurl.com/pqxst2m
[14:18] {Les} oh boy, she wants to hand it all over to Brussels
[14:19] {Les} that's like handing over the keys to the whisky bar to Nemo
[14:19] {Les} drunken sailor...
[14:20] {Alexs} stop .01  now?
01[14:21] {&Threei}  yes, let's trail
01[14:21] {&Threei}  things are very slow, let's keep risk as small as possible
01[14:22] {&Threei}  we did too well today to risk needlessly
01[14:22] {&Threei}  and we still have last hour for activity to pick up
[14:23] {Les} shit sso .75/.85 looked like it but this is supposed to be BTFD market
[14:24] {Les} wanna be shortin the bounces here
[14:24] {Les} I wanna anyway
[14:29] {RonS} market acting like O on tv...
[14:30] {Will49} so what's wrong with Oprah?
01[14:30] {&Threei}  what isn't
[14:31] {Will49} she has a lot of inflamation
[14:32] {RonS} lol...wtf?
[14:32] {nemo} I think he means she's fat
[14:32] {RonS} ...will has seen her kankles?
[14:32] {Alexs} Vad, when I take one small stop it's actually 7 cents, is it correct?
[14:32] {Will49} that'll do
[14:33] {Les} lol this conversation gettin interesting
01[14:33] {&Threei}  if everything goes by the book, yes
[14:34] {Alexs} do you usually do different?
01[14:34] {&Threei}  not really
[14:35] {Alexs} just checking if I do it right
[14:36] {Will49} ? can you explain 7 cents vad?
01[14:36] {&Threei}  if she serves breakfast hot and on time...
01[14:36] {&Threei}  alex means a cent added on entry and exit, since we work on break of the thresholds
[14:36] {Will49} if you get in at 1 cent below trigger and stop out 1 centa above
01[14:37] {&Threei}  correct
[14:37] {Alexs} yes
[14:37] {Will49} isn't that 12 cent stop?
01[14:37] {&Threei}  with 5 cents stop he means
[14:37] {Will49} ah
[14:37] {Alexs} yes
01[14:37] {&Threei}  see word "amll" on his question
01[14:37] {&Threei}  small
01[14:37] {&Threei}  in
01[14:37] {&Threei}  jeez
[14:37] {Will49} ok got it
[14:38] {Will49} wasn't thinking (again)
01[14:38] {&Threei}  that's good
[14:38] {cc_9} QCOR monster come back
[14:39] {Les} wow seriously below s3 at the LoD
[14:40] {nemo} looks like it should fall here
[14:41] {Les} yeh notable vol. resistanc here
01[14:55] {&Threei}  1:1
[14:55] {Les} kaching baby
01[14:55] {&Threei}  money making continues
[14:56] {dino} fang spike
[14:56] {Les} qcor small short .79
[14:58] {Les} half cover .66
[14:58] {dino} gj
[14:59] {Les} ty sir
[14:59] {Les} 2nd half cover flat
[14:59] {Les} no dive for me
01[15:00] {&Threei}  yw
01[15:00] {&Threei}  flat?
[15:00] {Les} you too are welcome sir
[15:01] {Les} [20:57] {Les} qcor small short .79
[15:01] {Les} [20:58] {Les} half cover .66
01[15:01] {&Threei}  ah
01[15:01] {&Threei}  was looking at GLD
01[15:01] {&Threei}  which never went back to flat
[15:09] {mrcanada} would QCOR be considered a head and shoulders?
[15:09] {mrcanada} excuse me not a h&s but rather a cup and handle?
01[15:10] {&Threei}  inverted, yes
[15:10] {Les} u looking at all day chart mrcanada?
[15:10] {mrcanada} yes
[15:11] {Les} yeh I see both patterns... sorta
[15:11] {mrcanada} we will see
[15:12] {Les} but Nemo would say I see pink elephants in these charts, so no comment
[15:13] {Les} I said, NEMO WOULD SAY I SEE PINK ELEPHANTS
[15:13] {Les} NEMO, RESPECT MY AUTHORITIE!
[15:14] {Will49} what are you smokin Les?
[15:15] {RonS} must be a dictionary?
[15:15] {Will49} haha
[15:16] {dino} todays valued-added research, jpm eaises tsla to 93 from 83, rating neutral. wtf, it trades at 171
[15:16] {dino} eaises=raises
[15:16] {Les} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx4jn77VKlQ&list=RD21rIVHNylH1Mk
[15:18] {Les} full episode
[15:18] {Les} http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s02e03-chickenlover
[15:19] {RonS} ...thinkin mr canada first name must be oh...which would mean he's very inspirational...
[15:20] {mrcanada} eh?
01[15:21] {&Threei}  that's "eh" ron... jeez, you yankies
[15:21] {mrcanada} got my pop!
[15:21] {RonS} ...someone wrote the national anthem after you...means yu are inspirational...
[15:21] {Les} wtf with you lot
01[15:21] {&Threei}  we put "oh" in that specifically for you, but north of border we sing it Eh Canafa
01[15:21] {&Threei}  Canada
[15:22] {RonS} lol
[15:22] {Will49} lol Vad
[15:23] {RonS} good to know...outta here...as Les would say a+...
[15:23] {Les} that's trademarked Ron
[15:24] {cc_9} SCTY here any takers ?
[15:25] {Les} a buck higher?
01[15:26] {&Threei}  take care Ron
[15:26] {Will49} not with that spread
[15:27] {mrcanada} Vad...where would u get out of qcor if you got in under 63$
[15:27] {Les} lol
[15:27] {cc_9} GNTX pop
01[15:28] {&Threei}  where had you had your stop?
[15:28] {mrcanada} brought it up to 63.25
01[15:28] {&Threei}  no, I mean original
01[15:29] {&Threei}  to determine risk reward
01[15:29] {&Threei}  that's how we define the targets, via r/r ratios
[15:29] {mrcanada} 63.75
01[15:29] {&Threei}  62.75 you mean?
[15:30] {mrcanada} right now i am at 1:2
[15:30] {mrcanada} yes...to the 62.75
[15:30] {Les} sm short gntx .38 holding .45
01[15:30] {&Threei}  I would be 3/4 out here, and stop at .35
[15:30] {mrcanada} k...i am out half
[15:31] {mrcanada} my stop is at .35
[15:31] {cc_9} funny when people wrote off NFLX in 2011
[15:32] {cc_9} calling Hastings the worst CEO on Wall St.
[15:32] {cc_9} helluva turnaround on value and content
[15:33] {mrcanada} how long should I let it go?
[15:33] {Les} stopped
[15:34] {mrcanada} stop at .50
01[15:34] {&Threei}  let market answer that by trailing stop with each new support level formed
[15:34] {mrcanada} k
01[15:34] {&Threei}  when it reverses, it will tag your stop
01[15:35] {&Threei}  .49 now
01[15:37] {&Threei}  (GR) Greece PM Samaras: Reiterates Greece will have a primary surplus in 2013
01[15:37] {&Threei}  (under his breath) because we told out bean counters to make it so
[15:37] {Will49} of olive oil
01[15:37] {&Threei}  - Expect European lenders to help with Greece debt in November as promised. - Greece Fin Min: GDP to decline by 3% in the third quarter
01[15:37] {&Threei}  lol
01[15:37] {&Threei}  and we were wondering where Iraq minister of information went
01[15:38] {&Threei}  remember, the one who was saying "we are winning, US troops are fleeing" till last day
[15:39] {thomcbell} hi
01[15:39] {&Threei}  (CA) Canada PM Harper: Canada to loosen foregin takeover review limit to C$1.5B ***Note that BlackBerry's market cap is around $4.3B presently
[15:40] {thomcbell} anything happening
01[15:40] {&Threei}  hey tbell
01[15:40] {&Threei}  yeah, got couple more while you were gone
01[15:40] {&Threei}  alex, I guess you still can't buy Victoria at this point...
[15:41] {cc_9} RSH parabolic
01[15:41] {&Threei}  QCOR, time becomes an issue, I'd trail stop to .65
[15:44] {Will49} nice trade mr Canada
[15:44] {nemo} whoa
[15:44] {nemo} somebody shut off the algo
01[15:44] {&Threei}  see how trailing stop saves your behind?
[15:44] {Les} 2nd go gntx .78 short
01[15:45] {&Threei}  all gains evapporate in a blink of an eye if you don't manage your trade propelry
[15:46] {Will49} shheeesh Vad..the ONE day i stay to the end...no trades :(
[15:46] {mrcanada} yes....I am use to trading on a longer time frame....but the same happens but is slower :-)
[15:46] {Les} ya missus leave ya along for an afternoon Will?
01[15:46] {&Threei}  sorry will... nothing shaped up
[15:47] {Will49} right on les
[15:47] {nemo} Les will never shape up
[15:47] {Will49} she's shopping
[15:48] {Will49} i know Vad...just trying to get a rise out of you
[15:48] {nemo} Vad's too old
[15:48] {Les} always dwelling in lowly places without ego
[15:48] {Will49} lol nemo
01[15:48] {&Threei}  GNTX works
[15:48] {Les} half cover AGNT .70
01[15:48] {&Threei}  good one to finish with Les
[15:49] {Les} yeh ignored your r/r and almost had my head handed to me on a platter
[15:49] {Les} 1:2
01[15:49] {&Threei}  ignore my r/r at your peril
01[15:50] {&Threei}  they are derived from a decade and half of observations
[15:50] {Les} wanna score like Dino
[15:50] {Les} +1.00
[15:50] {Les} +2.00
[15:50] {Les} +.5xx!!!
01[15:50] {&Threei}  crawl... walk... run...
[15:50] {Les} sight
01[15:50] {&Threei}  dino wasn't born dino either, he developed into this T-Rex
[15:50] {Les} -t
[15:51] {Les} full covered 1:2
[15:51] {mrcanada} do u guys buy 1k shares of a stock that trades at 50+ $
[15:52] {mrcanada} or would u buy a smaller amount of shares...say 600?
01[15:52] {&Threei}  depends on one's account size, risk rtolerance, objectives
[15:52] {Les} gotta sleep a+
[15:53] {mrcanada} i c
[15:53] {mrcanada} just trying  to find out...what I should and should not be doing...
01[15:53] {&Threei}  see this article:
[15:53] {nemo} just don't listen to Les
[15:53] {cc_9} ok guys, see you all tomorrow
01[15:54] {&Threei}  http://blog.realitytrader.com/2007/04/stops-why-and-how.html
01[15:54] {&Threei}  and generally, make sure you read this whole selection:
01[15:54] {&Threei}  http://blog.realitytrader.com/2011/10/blog-summary-updated.html
01[15:55] {&Threei}  thank you all, have a great evening
01[15:55] {&Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:55] {mrcanada} thanks

Friday, October 18, 2013

Market Week Wrap-up

TradeTheNews.com  Weekly Market UpdateStocks Charge Higher After US Debt Stalemate Ends with a Whimper



- The United State Congress managed not to let the country default on its debts this week, passing a bill to reopen the government and to raise the debt ceiling for a few months. After two weeks of a government shutdown, the Congressional bluster quieted and a backroom deal was reached just ahead of the Treasury's October 17th debt ceiling deadline. All in all, the impact of the shutdown is expected to be fleeting, though S&P suggests it cost the United States $24 billion in economic activity, and will shave about 0.6% off of Q4 GDP, not to mention sacrificing a significant but intangible amount of the country's international standing. In response to Washington's brinkmanship, Fitch put its AAA US rating on watch negative and Chinese agency Dagong cut its US rating to A- from A, while investor Warren Buffett labeled the debt limit a "political weapon of mass destruction." The GOP and the Congress garnered record-low approval ratings. Meanwhile earnings season rolled on, with 75% of the S&P500 companies that reported this week meeting or beating consensus expectations. Very weak showings at Goldman Sachs and IBM hampered the DJIA, while the S&P500 closed out the week at new all-time highs and the Nasdaq pushed to within 100 points of the 4000 handle. For the week, the DJIA gained 1%, the S&P500 rose 2.4% and the Nasdaq surged 3.2%.

- Budget negotiations continued all through the weekend in the Senate following two weeks of squabbling in the House. Senators from both sides of the aisle stepped in to help outline a consensus solution, and by Tuesday Majority Leader Reid and Minority Leader McConnell were reassuring the country that they were very close to a deal, which was passed by the Senate (81 to 18, with more than half of GOP members voting yes) and then the House (285 to 144, with 87 Republicans voting yes) on Wednesday. The agreement funds the government through January 15th and extends debt limit through Feb 7th, with the Treasury granted the authority to use extraordinary measures to push the debt limit through March. After the deal, McConnell pledged that he would not allow another shutdown or debt ceiling gambit aimed at defunding Obamacare. The deal also requires the creation of a bipartisan budget panel to facilitate negotiations on a longer-term debt reduction agreement. Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray (D-WA) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) were tapped to lead the budget panel, which has been charged to reach a budget reconciliation by Dec 13 (a Friday). Most Washington insiders now expect that any agreement reached will likely be a modest reallocation of the automatic cuts imposed by the sequester rather than the elusive 'grand bargain.'

- Fed hawks Fisher and George offered contrasting opinions about the potential for tapering QE. Fisher said he does not expect QE bond buying to be reduced at the October FOMC meeting, warning that markets were too delicate at the moment to begin the taper. Fisher also said that personally he would not consider tapering a good idea in October due to the current fiscal standoff. Meanwhile George said the Fed should begin tapering QE now, while also cautioning that the time is not yet right for tightening rate policy.

- There were no surprises in most of China's September economic data, with the exception of trade numbers. Third quarter GDP growth was in line at 7.8%, supported by strong domestic and foreign demand. The GDP data continues to place China on path to achieve the government annual growth forecast of 7.5%, although there are still uncertainties about whether the current recovery is sustainable. September industrial production and retail sales met expectations. The China trade balance fell to a six-month low, with exports negative for the first time in three months. Imports were in line with expectations at +7.4%.

- WTI crude continued its extended its six-week decline, closing out the week just above the $100 handle. In Geneva, the P5+1 group of western powers plus Russia concluded a very positive two-day round of talks with Iran, and agreed to meet again on November 7-8th in order to keep talking. Newly elected Iranian President Rohani continued to make conciliatory statements, and the majors powers were cautiously optimistic about the change in tone, but cautioned that they were a long way from a breakthrough.

- The threat of the Fed taper during the last quarter took a bite out of Goldman Sachs, whose Q3 profits fell 2% and revenues dived 20%. CEO Blankfein said the results reflected "a period of slow client activity." Bank of America posting solid profits although revenue was down slightly y/y and loan growth was nearly flat. Citigroup's North America retail banking revenues fell 35% thanks to a big drop in mortgage origination revenue and fixed income revenue fell 26% y/y. Morgan Stanley reported very strong Q3 results, with earnings and revenue topping expectations on very strong growth in trading revenues at the firm. Note that Morgan Stanley's gains in equity trading revenue more than offset most of the decline in fixed-income, FX and commodity trading, where revenue fell 44%.

- IBM's revenue was severely compromised in certain areas: hardware revenues were down 17% y/y, and revenue in BRICs areas were down 15%, both largely due to slow China hardware sales. Management said execution issues and a pause related to China's government developing a new economic plan due in November caused Chinese hardware sales to plummet 40% in the quarter. Both Google and Yahoo saw double-digit gains in paid clicks, even as revenue per click for both declined. Shares of Google soared above $1,000 as the firm emphasized strong metrics, while Yahoo offered poor Q4 guidance, keeping shares in the red on the week. Intel beat expectations in its Q3, but delayed launching its 14nm 'Broadwell' chip production, hampering the stock.

- Earnings at Johnson & Johnson, Verizon, and American Express were pretty solid. J&J beat estimates and raised its FY13 guidance. Verizon's postpaid phone service and the FiOS internet business continue to see subscriber growth and overall revenue grew modestly. American Express saw strong gains in both US and international card services revenue. All indications are that customers continue to expand card spending at a steady rate.

- The dollar remained weak against the euro even after the end of the debt ceiling standoff. EUR/USD spiked up to the 1.3700 level late in the week, testing the January highs. There was plenty of snarky commentary out of the usual sources questioning the reserve currency status of the dollar, aiding the euro, the dollar's only realistic reserve currency alternative. ECB officials continue to soft-peddle the stability of the euro, however some admit they need to begin factoring in FX issue to the ECB inflation outlook.







TradeTheNews

Oct 18 2013

Beautiful day to end the week, with strong profitable trades after first couple small stops. CAT for 1:3, IWM for 1:2  and a few others here and there worked like magic

[15:59] {dino} gn all, thx for ideas
Session Time: Fri Oct 18 00:00:00 2013
[09:16] {drewj} gm
01[09:16] {&Threei}  morning drew
[09:17] {drewj} how goes it?
01[09:18] {&Threei}  define "it"
[09:19] {drewj} the morning...life...ect
[09:19] {nemo} my hangover is getting better
[09:19] {nemo} that's my "it"
[09:19] {drewj} good
[09:20] {nemo} might as well just go long the indexes
[09:20] {dino} gm
[09:20] {drewj} what's up dino
[09:21] {thomcbell} GM
01[09:21] {&Threei}  dino, tbell :)
[09:21] {dino} not much drew, working on some r.e. deals
01[09:22] {&Threei}  I am still thinking, drew... you asked a hard one
[09:22] {drewj} don't hurt yourself vad
01[09:22] {&Threei}  I alternate between "life is beautiful" and "life sucks..." and little nemo on my shoulder whispers "sicks is the right answer"
[09:22] {nemo} he's not used to thinking
[09:22] {drewj} what kind of re deals dino?
[09:23] {nemo} dino is just his trading name
[09:23] {drewj} I think everyone goes through that vad...
[09:23] {nemo} his real name is Donald
[09:23] {RonS} lol...classic
[09:23] {Les} gm
[09:23] {drewj} donny boy???
[09:23] {RonS} tm btw
01[09:23] {&Threei}  yeah, but not everyone is lucky to have this little always drunk man on his shoulder
[09:23] {dino} i speculate in it. bidding on foreclosed house today and signing sub-division paperwork on another
[09:24] {drewj} true...
01[09:24] {&Threei}  ron, les :)
[09:24] {drewj} i'm hoping to buy a duplex early next year...good luck
[09:24] {Les} wish u well on yer next project dino
[09:25] {ese} morning
01[09:25] {&Threei}  ese :)
[09:25] {Alexs} gm
01[09:25] {&Threei}  alex :)
01[09:27] {&Threei}  cc_9... we will need a note from parents re: your yesterday's absence
[09:27] {ese} Spy watchdog to investigate CSIS visit to Hamilton man's homeBy Cory Ruf, CBC News Posted: Oct 17, 2013 5:37 PM ET
[09:27] {ese} this is what Canadas turning into with the Harper Conservative Government
[09:28] {Les} what we watching?
[09:28] {ese} too many ultra right wing loonies in charge right now
[09:28] {dino} thx les, drew
01[09:28] {&Threei}  that's Harper's fault for sure
01[09:29] {&Threei}  ese, let's not turn this into politics board
01[09:29] {&Threei}  too many leftis loonies around as it is
[09:29] {Les} too many politicians, full stop
[09:29] {+cc_9} good late morning
06[09:29] * Les slaps cc around with an NYT set alarm clock
01[09:30] {&Threei}  if you want me to show you what those organizations did under Liberals, you would be amazed
01[09:30] {&Threei}  you just never heard about it
[09:30] {ese} true
01[09:32] {&Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .90 break hl
01[09:32] {&Threei}  If holds  127
01[09:34] {&Threei}  two nice tails topping off under 127
01[09:37] {&Threei}  SPY drop works against the trade... they are back to inverted relation today
01[09:37] {&Threei}  we need market bounce
01[09:38] {&Threei}  meh
01[09:38] {&Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .95 break hl
01[09:39] {&Threei}  If holds  .85
01[09:39] {&Threei}  that was fast 1:1
[09:39] {drewj} missed it
[09:39] {Alexs} me too
01[09:42] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .70 break
01[09:42] {&Threei}  If holds  .75
[09:42] {Alexs} got it on recross ty Vad
01[09:44] {&Threei}  FB?
[09:44] {Alexs} yes
[09:44] {Les} wow SPY
01[09:45] {&Threei}  meh GDX
01[09:46] {&Threei}  one pullback should be in order before new highs on SPY
01[09:46] {&Threei} Short Setup: IWM  .10 breal
01[09:46] {&Threei}  If holds  .15
01[09:48] {&Threei}  cover half
[09:48] {nemo} yeah, shorting the indexes is not good for your health
01[09:48] {&Threei}  huh?
01[09:48] {&Threei}  so far it is
[09:49] {nemo} in general in this market
[09:49] {thomcbell} nice job on FB - when you have time let me know what you saw there
[09:49] {nemo} shorts are basically long KY
01[09:49] {&Threei}  in general, life is not good for your health
[09:49] {Alexs} lol
[09:49] {nemo} yeah, it ends up killing you
01[09:49] {&Threei}  always ends in death
[09:49] {nemo} and you wonder why I'm not an optimist
01[09:50] {&Threei}  I really don't
01[09:50] {&Threei}  wow FB
[09:50] {Alexs} just sants live forever
01[09:50] {&Threei}  that's much more than I expected from it
[09:50] {nemo} it was rhetorical Vad
[09:51] {Alexs} saints
[09:51] {thomcbell} MU long setup 17.08 break if holding 17
01[09:51] {&Threei}  I just finished counting syllables in that nemo... it violates the rule of not using words with more than 3
[09:52] {nemo} o.k.
[09:52] {nemo} it was for shits and giggles
[09:52] {Les} SPY ready to crack 174?
01[09:52] {&Threei}  I believe so
[09:53] {Les} corresponds with sso .50
01[09:53] {&Threei}  somg GDX
[09:54] {Alexs} c long .25?
01[09:54] {&Threei}  not reslly strong one
01[09:54] {&Threei}  I'd look for another candidate
[09:54] {Les} banksters are being dragged along here
[09:55] {Alexs} then short .15?
01[09:55] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .85 break
01[09:56] {&Threei}  nah, just leave it be
01[09:56] {&Threei}  C is not the best trader right now
01[09:56] {&Threei}  If holds  .75
01[09:57] {&Threei}  1:1
[10:00] {thomcbell} yhoo looking for short entry near 33.60 bounce
[10:02] {Les} sm JPM short .19 holding .30
01[10:02] {&Threei}  tbell, on FB question earlier... that was just a reversal formation, kind of bounce with mini-range, only compressed in three candles which is notmal for the morning
01[10:03] {&Threei}  trail CAT balance to .89
[10:03] {thomcbell} ok gotcha
01[10:04] {&Threei}  1:2
01[10:04] {&Threei}  by the book from here
[10:04] {Les} JPM stop to .25
01[10:04] {&Threei}  Will will be crying seeing what we did with CAT
[10:06] {dino} safm drop
[10:06] {dino} sm l .83
01[10:06] {&Threei}  GOOG Shares move above $1000 for the first time
[10:07] {Les} why the big breakaway daily candle?
01[10:07] {&Threei}  1:3 baby
01[10:08] {&Threei}  out .18
01[10:08] {&Threei}  life becomes much brighter
01[10:11] {&Threei}  btw nemo, speaking of dangers to your health... be very careful with oatmeal cookies
[10:11] {+cc_9} MYL
01[10:11] {&Threei}  I distinctly remember the case when 2 bottles of vodka went down smoothly, but then I got severe food poisoning from oatmeal cookie
[10:11] {+cc_9} ACTG
[10:12] {thomcbell} i flattened mu for minor gain - waste of time
01[10:12] {&Threei} Long Setup:  IWM  .25 break
01[10:13] {&Threei}  Invalidated
01[10:13] {&Threei}  for now
01[10:14] {&Threei}  wow Les... you might have squeezed some blood out of that JPM stone
[10:14] {+cc_9} ACTG nice
01[10:14] {&Threei}  I thought it was going to torture you for an hour, no less
[10:14] {Les} finnies are the drag
[10:15] {Les} actually looks bearish through EOD but that's way to far ahead...
[10:15] {+cc_9} ACTG through .50s
[10:15] {Les} 1:1
[10:16] {+cc_9} MYL beautiful reversal
[10:17] {Les} you pick it up in .50's cc?
[10:18] {drewj} cat still going
[10:19] {+cc_9} .53
[10:19] {+cc_9} Les
01[10:20] {&Threei}  I had this feeling it had more in it drew
01[10:20] {&Threei}  but with couple mehs before, wanted sure big win secured
[10:20] {drewj} because it went in a straight line up for 15 minutes
[10:20] {nemo} is the "meh"  the new "no workie"?
01[10:21] {&Threei}  no
[10:21] {nemo} oh
01[10:21] {&Threei}  meh is a no workie with smaller stop or half lot
01[10:21] {&Threei}  10 cents stop is no workie
[10:21] {nemo} ah
01[10:21] {&Threei}  5 is meh
[10:26] {+cc_9} ACTG is worth keeping an eye on if it can get through .50s
[10:26] {+cc_9} got some room
[10:27] {Les} JPM 1:2 close enough
[10:27] {nemo} time for little index bounce me thinks
01[10:27] {&Threei}  good one JPM
[10:27] {Les} ty
[10:27] {nemo} finnies have to hold here
[10:29] {Les} JPM 1:3
[10:34] {thomcbell} actg seems to be getting a bit of footing
[10:34] {thomcbell} darn yhoo
[10:35] {thomcbell} played improperly
[10:37] {drewj} long iwm?
01[10:37] {&Threei} Long Setup:  IWM  .90 break
01[10:37] {&Threei}  If holds  .85
[10:38] {thomcbell} scratch that thought on actg
[10:38] {Les} 1:4 without me
01[10:40] {&Threei}  1:1
01[10:45] {&Threei}  1:2
01[10:46] {&Threei}  life is good again
[10:50] {+cc_9} PRKR pulp fiction
[10:51] {drewj} short fcx?
[10:53] {drewj} vad...
01[10:54] {&Threei}  no clear read
[10:56] {ese} L nq .90
[10:57] {+cc_9} PRKR decent half bounce
[10:57] {ese} out nq .09
[10:57] {ese} +.19
[10:57] {RonS} fwiw some thinking Icahn or some other activist could move on fcx w/ entire board up for re-election and case for biz split ...one Carl tweet and short FCX goes up in smoke...
[10:58] {ese} I love these stocks where i turn away to type the call look at it and it's shot up
[11:01] {thomcbell} FB really moving around today
[11:01] {+cc_9} ACTG, don't take off radar just yet
[11:01] {+cc_9} sideways before the pop imo
[11:05] {+cc_9} PRKR not bad...
[11:06] {RonS} sm l srpt .96
[11:07] {thomcbell} actg looks like 15.50 long break
[11:16] {thomcbell} xone 53.90 long brak
[11:17] {thomcbell} 1/2 lot if holding 53.70
[11:17] {RonS} out srpt 43.65 +.69
[11:20] {dino} etg
[11:20] {dino} wtg
[11:22] {thomcbell} xone - kind of a strange on - i got hit because my stop limit was 53.93  but i am long nonetheless
[11:26] {thomcbell} out xone 54.20
[11:30] {+cc_9} ACTG no dice on 15.50 breaking, testing 15.00 again
[11:32] {+cc_9} volume picked up on that drop, back to 15.30
01[11:48] {&Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .60 break hl
01[11:49] {&Threei}  If holds  .50
[11:51] {Alexs} change to .50?
01[11:51] {&Threei}  after abother downtick or two
01[11:51] {&Threei}  not right away
01[11:52] {&Threei}  change to .50 break
01[11:52] {&Threei}  If holds  .45
[11:54] {dino} aegr drop
01[11:54] {&Threei}  try to sell half just under .60
01[11:54] {&Threei}  and keep second half for breakout
[11:54] {RonS} bunch of biotech getting hit...
[11:55] {RonS} bmr thrx pcyc mdvn
[11:56] {RonS} bmrn
[11:56] {RonS} mygn
[11:56] {RonS} alxn
[11:56] {RonS} amgn
[11:57] {RonS} celg
[11:57] {Les} can watch IBB for the catch all I guess
[11:58] {ese} have a great weekend all.........been one of those on the phone days and just observing......
01[11:58] {&Threei}  take care ese
[11:58] {Les} cheers man
01[11:58] {&Threei}  and don't read that much of a left press
[11:59] {RonS} freakin athn missed...amazing what happens w/ high short interest...
[11:59] {ese} cya boys
01[11:59] {&Threei}  stop .49 on CAT of course
[12:01] {drewj} are you still in?
01[12:03] {&Threei}  half
[12:12] {RonS} health plan providers creamed...aet unh
[12:12] {RonS} ...just the start...
01[12:13] {&Threei}  Victoria is 17th on Conde Nast Traveler list of world's best cities
[12:14] {Alexs} is it a citi lol
[12:14] {RonS} ...guessing they have not been there...should be 8 at leat...
[12:14] {RonS} least
01[12:15] {&Threei}  hmmm... what esle would you call it alex??
[12:15] {Alexs} town maybe
01[12:17] {&Threei}  where do you draw a separation?
01[12:17] {&Threei}  A city is an incorporated area with it's own government and some autonomy. A town may have a town council, but it doesn't have the same autonomy or responsibility at the county and state levels.
[12:17] {RonS} for me, +/- a million...
[12:18] {Alexs} just kidding, Vad
[12:22] {+cc_9} ACTG, back to resistance range again
[12:29] {thomcbell} long small splk in here 61.78 avg
[12:35] {dino} hon hl l .97
[12:42] {+cc_9} ACTG you doge
[12:42] {+cc_9} get through .50s already
[12:46] {Les} cc AMGN and other bios might interest you
[12:46] {Alexs} just checed that Conde Nast list : Beirut Lebanon on 20th place, inretesting rating
06[12:47] * Les slaps Alexs around with a Vad dictionary
[12:48] {Alexs} lol
[12:49] {Les} :)
[12:49] {Les} sm. long amgn .02 holding .90
[12:50] {+cc_9} Les, yes watching UNH
[12:51] {Les} ooh that is nasty
[13:02] {Les} UNH made its move back above s3 and is close to vwap resistance
[13:03] {Les} dunno how dino does it
[13:03] {RonS} born lucky and has daily relapse?
[13:03] {Les} the waiting
[13:05] {Les} IBB slowly getting there
[13:08] {Les} half out amgn +.18
[13:09] {dino} aegr sm l .92
[13:10] {Les} IBB rockin here
[13:18] {Les} last hafl amgn sold same price
[13:22] {dino} out hon .20, +.23
[13:22] {RonS} gj
[13:24] {dino} srpt sm l .15
[13:25] {dino} out aegr .45, +.53
[13:25] {dino} ty ron
[13:25] {dino} distracted morning
[13:28] {RonS} ya, must be tough being a real estate magnet and stock operator at the same time...
[13:28] {Les} hehe
[13:29] {dino} hardly a magnet, just earning a living
[13:30] {RonS} sm l acor .38
[13:32] {nemo} you guys mean "magnate"?
01[13:32] {&Threei}  I hope so
[13:33] {RonS} dino magnet...pulls the money towards him...
01[13:33] {&Threei}  magnetic magnate
[13:34] {dino} bailed on aegr too soon
[13:34] {RonS} out acor .30 -.08
[13:44] {dino} ugh aegr
[13:44] {dino} out sprt .06 -.09
[13:48] {+cc_9} PRKR pulp fiction from earlier played out nicely after all, back to highs
[13:53] {Les} so AMGN at 1315 was anything but double top... such is life
[13:54] {RonS} sheesh athn
[13:59] {nemo} omg...a down candle on spy
01[13:59] {&Threei}  NOOO!!
[14:00] {nemo} it didn't last
01[14:01] {&Threei}  whew
01[14:01] {&Threei}  almost destroyed my model of the world as we know it
[14:02] {RonS} lol...eBay CEO on "cautious" holiday outlook: we didn’t mean to sound so negative  -by @DelRey http://dthin.gs/18tkVjI
[14:03] {nemo} upod
[14:03] {drewj} upod
[14:08] {RonS} ?
01[14:13] {&Threei}  CAT on watch
01[14:13] {&Threei}  although nemo taught me that watched cat never boils
[14:13] {nemo} I like cat tartar myself
[14:15] {dino} safm lod
[14:16] {nemo} wow, SPY pulled back $.20
[14:17] {RonS} unreal that ebay ceo comment popped the stock...short covering I guess...
[14:19] {thomcbell} actg 15.50 might still have some stops
[14:20] {Alexs} you sought for .60 recross Vad?
01[14:20] {&Threei}  yeah
01[14:20] {&Threei}  and bastard got away
01[14:20] {&Threei}  as cats tend to do
01[14:20] {&Threei}  unboiled ones
[14:20] {Alexs} lol
01[14:20] {&Threei}  on a worrisome side, Alex...
01[14:20] {&Threei}  you start thinking as I do
01[14:21] {&Threei}  this is dangerous sign
01[14:21] {&Threei}  you are standing on a verge of dark abyss
01[14:21] {&Threei}  and at the bottom there is nemo...
[14:22] {Alexs} :)
01[14:22] {&Threei}  here there be dragons
[14:22] {nemo} my pals
[14:22] {nemo} I had to convince them to leave bunny alone
[14:29] {RonS} sheesh ebay
[14:32] {+cc_9} DOW headed to 25,000 by today's close
[14:35] {nemo} sounds conservative
01[14:36] {&Threei}  shooting for the stars, aren't you? I for one don't believe we have a chance in hell to go any higher than 24,490
[14:39] {dino} eqm sm s break .00
[14:39] {dino} ok
01[14:46] {&Threei} Long Setup:  IWM  .55 break
01[14:46] {&Threei}  If holds  .50
[14:49] {thomcbell} took the trade splk in here
[14:49] {dino} safm sm l .73
[14:49] {thomcbell} + 0.45 or so
[14:49] {dino} cov eqm .58, +.40
[14:50] {RonS} gj
[14:50] {dino} ty
[14:53] {Alexs} gld short 127?
01[14:54] {&Threei}  worth a try, especially if SPY makes new high finally
[15:00] {Alexs} iwm invalidated?
01[15:00] {&Threei}  certainly
[15:04] {Les} small short iwm .43
[15:05] {nemo} you're late to the party on that one Les
[15:06] {nemo} time of day might work for you though
[15:07] {+cc_9} ACTG EOD bonanza
[15:07] {+cc_9} lol @ this is total bs, been repeating the same ol' line since 10:30AM
[15:07] {Alexs} GLD stop .06 or .11 Vad?
01[15:08] {&Threei}  .06
[15:14] {Les} 1:1 on IWM
01[15:14] {&Threei}  :)
[15:14] {Les} now... do we plunge
[15:14] {Les} ?
01[15:14] {&Threei}  getting in the saddle, eh Les?
[15:15] {Les} less need to be trading this time. feels good
[15:16] {Les} banksters gotta hold the line here
[15:16] {dino} you know the saying les; "nothing good ever happens after 3:00"
[15:17] {dino} a.m. that is
[15:17] {Les} married with kids...
[15:17] {Les} ain't nothing good my way
[15:17] {Les} :)
[15:17] {dino} lol
[15:17] {dino} it's 3:17 here thats why i typed it
[15:18] {Les} right
[15:28] {Les} It's friday afternoon and they're deciding...
[15:28] {Les} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jllJ-HeErjU
[15:31] {Les} buy the dip
[15:33] {RonS} good weekend to all, outta here...
01[15:34] {&Threei}  take care ron
[15:41] {Alexs} makes sense to scratch GLD Vad?
01[15:42] {&Threei}  it often tanks on last minutes... with 5 cents stop, what's the urgency?
[15:42] {Alexs} chart is right but time
[15:44] {dino} hptx drop
01[15:48] {&Threei}  alex, let's sing together: "Time is on my side"
[15:48] {Alexs} :)
06[15:48] * dino slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
01[15:49] {&Threei}  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzcWwmwChVE
[15:49] {Alexs} 1:1
[15:49] {Alexs} finaly
01[15:49] {&Threei}  see... pastience IS a virtue
[15:49] {Alexs} you were right
01[15:49] {&Threei}  patience too
01[15:50] {&Threei}  I usually am... my wife hates it
[15:50] {Alexs} lol
[15:50] {Les} hehehe
[15:50] {dino} risky, sm l hotx .16
[15:50] {Les} me in late entry .94
[15:51] {dino} hptx
[15:55] {Alexs} 1/4 more ot .84
[15:55] {Alexs} out
[15:56] {dino} partial out hptx .54, +.38
01[15:56] {&Threei}  glad to finish this week on such note
[15:57] {dino} remainder .35, +.19
01[15:57] {&Threei}  nice finish dino
[15:57] {dino} opps, got .40
[15:57] {dino} ty
[15:58] {nemo} gap up Monday
[15:58] {Alexs} full out .84
[15:58] {Alexs} ty Vad for good guidance
01[15:59] {&Threei}  always\
01[15:59] {&Threei}  thank you all, have a greeat weekend
[15:59] {dino} thx all, calling it a week
[15:59] {Les} yeh decent recovery 2nd half ty outta here a+
01[15:59] {&Threei}  see you monday

Thursday, October 17, 2013

Oct 17 2013

Morning has been decent, then slow creep-up started, and over last weeks we kind of forgot how to handle that mode. Finishing negative after a few afternoon stops and invalidations.

Session Time: Thu Oct 17 00:00:00 2013
[09:12] {thomcbell} hello all
01[09:12] {&Threei}  morning tbell, welcome back
[09:12] {thomcbell} thank you - good to be back
[09:12] {RonS} hi thom, nice to see you...gm everyone
[09:13] {drewj} gm all
01[09:13] {&Threei}  ron, drew :)
[09:15] {ese} morning
01[09:15] {&Threei}  ese :)
[09:16] {Will49} gm
[09:16] {ese} was i actually on the board yesterday..............damn busy day from the get go and couldn't remember
01[09:16] {&Threei}  will :)
[09:16] {ese} will
[09:17] {Will49} hey ese
01[09:17] {&Threei}  great, now you want us to track your movements... get a GPS! {G}
[09:17] {ese} lol
[09:18] {ese} ok heres the deal..........and i could use some suggestions here
01[09:18] {&Threei}  what kind of GPS? Garmin, IMO
[09:19] {ese} my band The Midnights have been given a prime spot in the up coming Jazz Fest International here in Victoria
[09:19] {Will49} congrats
[09:19] {ese}  2014...
[09:19] {ese} but
[09:20] {ese} the director would like us to do it with a prominant artist like we did 8 years ago with motown superstar Martha Reeves....
[09:20] {ese} i've been spending my days searching out an artist
01[09:20] {&Threei}  don't look at me
01[09:21] {&Threei}  these days I prefer to shy the crowds
[09:21] {Will49} there are 3-4 excellent female jazz singers in Washington State
[09:21] {ese} who will?
[09:21] {Will49} if you go to KPLU.org they have bios ans clips
[09:22] {Les} gm
[09:22] {ese} ahhhh thanks
[09:22] {Will49} and
[09:22] {ese} ?
01[09:22] {&Threei}  les :)
[09:22] {ese} les
[09:22] {Les} :)
[09:23] {dino} gm
[09:23] {ese} dino
01[09:24] {&Threei}  dino :)
01[09:24] {&Threei}  you guys want me to post the details of the deal in Congress?
01[09:24] {&Threei}  or we don't care?
[09:24] {Les} let's here it
[09:25] {Les} hear
[09:25] {ese} don't care...is the markt going up or down
01[09:25] {&Threei}  - The two-week standoff between the Republican-led House and the White House came to a head late on Wednesday, just hours before the Treasury-imposed default deadline of midnight. Cooler heads prevailed, as Senate leaders Reid and McConnell brokered a deal in the US hours, subsequently receiving the commitment from House leadership to go along with the accord which some have quickly dismissed as "kicking the can down the road."
01[09:25] {&Threei}  Indeed, under the provisions of the agreement, the govt will be funded through Jan 15 and debt limit extended through Feb 7th, with the Treasury granted the authority to use extraordinary measures to extend debt limit through March of 2014.
01[09:25] {&Threei}  Arguably however, the White House may have emerged out of this crisis stronger. Pres Obama will now hold the veto power to proceed with an increase in the debt ceiling, requiring a 2/3rd Congressional majority for an override and potentially diminishing the likelihood of another standoff in early 2014.
01[09:26] {&Threei}  Instead, the two sides will be forced into a more active discussion on the implications of controversial Obamacare reform and other fiscal matters with the mandated formation of a bipartisan budget panel established by mid-December to facilitate negotiations on a longer term debt reduction agreement. In the mean time, US Senate voted overwhelmingly 81-18 in favor of the end of govt shutdown and debt limit extension. In the House, over 80 Republican lawmakers crossed over to vote with the unanimous Democrat bloc for an overall 285 Yea to 144 Nay count.
01[09:26] {&Threei}  end
[09:27] {Will49} so now can we make some money:) ?
[09:27] {ese} republicans have signed there death warrant...........they are going to get creamed in the next election
01[09:28] {&Threei}  gosh, you so materialistic
[09:28] {Will49} no doubt
[09:30] {Les} Vad US dollar monthly
[09:30] {Les} chart. What sort of formation can we call that?=
01[09:30] {&Threei}  ask again in an hour pls
[09:30] {Les} sorry
01[09:31] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .20 break
01[09:32] {&Threei}  If holds  .30
01[09:32] {&Threei}  stop to .26
01[09:34] {&Threei}  1:1
01[09:35] {&Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .80 break hl
01[09:36] {&Threei}  If holds  .90
[09:37] {ese} in .90
[09:38] {ese} agressive.....got the stop at .00
[09:39] {ese} am watching the spyders advance so thought i would give it a try
01[09:40] {&Threei} Short Setup: C  .55 break
01[09:40] {&Threei}  Invalidated
[09:42] {ese} moves slower than molassas vad gld
01[09:42] {&Threei}  should accelerate once .80 is lost
[09:42] {drewj} c still good?
[09:42] {ese} no
01[09:42] {&Threei}  [09:40] {&Threei} Invalidated
[09:43] {drewj} thought that was for gld
01[09:43] {&Threei} Short Setup: BBY  42 break hl
01[09:43] {&Threei}  If holds  .10
[09:44] {ese} come on gld....die already
[09:45] {ese} daaaaaaaa
[09:47] {dino} partial fill petm l .27
[09:47] {ese} stopped gld .00
[09:48] {ese} soethings out of wack............usually when mrkt heads up gold goes down
[09:48] {ese} -.10
[09:48] {nemo} earnings are bad so market is still in the euphoria and rationality beginning to seep in
[09:49] {thomcbell} SWK bad guidance and left for dead making new lows this am
[09:50] {nemo} IBM and GS lousy
[09:50] {thomcbell}  C looks like 50.51 break if holding 50.61
[09:52] {drewj} cat dbi?
01[09:53] {&Threei}  probably
[09:53] {dino} sell the news
01[09:53] {&Threei}  yup
01[09:53] {&Threei}  BBY 1:1
[10:00] {thomcbell} SWK looks like beginninngs of something on long side
01[10:00] {&Threei}  *(US) OCT PHILADELPHIA FED BUSINESS OUTLOOK: 19.8 V 15.0E
[10:00] {drewj} wfc breakout?
[10:01] {dino} out petm .88, +.61
01[10:01] {&Threei}  I'd rather fade it
[10:01] {drewj} ok
01[10:01] {&Threei}  look under the hood of the Phil Fed great numbers:
[10:02] {drewj} market too weak?
01[10:02] {&Threei}  Prices Paid: 21.7 v 25.3 prior - New Orders: 27.5 v 21.2 prior - Employment: 15.4 v 10.3 prior (highest since May 2011) - Inventories: 7.3 v -1.8 prior
[10:02] {drewj} major slowdown...
[10:02] {thomcbell} swk long setup 75.25 break if holding 75.15
[10:03] {Les} like that price deflation
[10:03] {Will49} inventory number is scary
[10:03] {thomcbell} invalidated
01[10:03] {&Threei}  just not enough momentum in finnies, drew
01[10:03] {&Threei}  no confident play
[10:03] {drewj} what are finnies?
01[10:03] {&Threei}  financials
01[10:04] {&Threei}  WFC is one
[10:04] {dino} lol
[10:05] {drewj} newbie dino...
[10:05] {dino} understood
[10:05] {drewj} I am that is:)
[10:06] {drewj} what with all this advanced trader lingo
[10:07] {Will49} my favourite is WTF
01[10:07] {&Threei}  lol
[10:07] {drewj} is that an etf?
[10:07] {Will49} haha
[10:08] {dino} pulp, my fav
[10:08] {thomcbell} covering C flat here
[10:08] {drewj} i've been meaning to ask you what you mean by that...?
[10:09] {dino} seinfeld episode, george costanzza gets hit in the eye w/orange pulp, "pulp moves baby". for trading, a fast mover
[10:09] {ese} my fav.....rotfflol........rolling on the frickin floor laughing out loud
[10:10] {dino} :)
[10:10] {drewj} i've used urban dictionary several times since starting here
[10:11] {ese} lol
[10:11] {dino} bohica was big for awhile
[10:11] {Will49} yeah, good old DP
[10:11] {ese} ?
[10:11] {Will49} hope he comes back soon
[10:12] {ese} Even I don't know that one
[10:12] {drewj} is this the one dino? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xCXbn4MTnk
[10:12] {nemo} watch for ebay bounce .00-.10
[10:12] {Will49} you remember dp...ese?
[10:12] {nemo} back to porn?
[10:12] {drewj} ha
[10:12] {Will49} the OTHER big vodka drinker
[10:13] {ese} ya but don t remember bohica
[10:13] {Will49} oh
[10:13] {Will49}  starts with bend over
[10:13] {nemo} my term ese
[10:13] {Will49} yeah nemos
[10:13] {dino} here it
01[10:13] {&Threei} Short Setup: WFC  .20 break
[10:14] {nemo} I think I told ya', way back when, when I worked for a systems integration company, we installed a corporate wide system
[10:14] {nemo} We named each of the servers Bohica...
[10:14] {nemo} Every employee, and there were hundreds
[10:14] {nemo} logged in in the morning and saw Bohica
01[10:14] {&Threei}  If holds  .28
[10:15] {drewj} did they know what it mean?
[10:15] {drewj} meant
[10:16] {nemo} nope
[10:16] {nemo} It was a unix based system, so I had to go around often to deal with issues
[10:16] {nemo} Not one person ever made a comment
[10:16] {dino} swk sm l .90 stop .74
01[10:17] {&Threei}  you were right on C, tbell
[10:18] {dino} stop swk -.16
[10:18] {drewj} vad does the volume on wfc show institutional selling?
01[10:19] {&Threei}  I don't know how you can distinguish that in such time frame
01[10:20] {&Threei}  nor do I understand why you'd need that
[10:20] {drewj} all the big volume bars are on red but price still moves up...
[10:20] {drewj} maybe not institutions but showing weakness.
01[10:20] {&Threei}  up?
[10:20] {nemo} huh?
01[10:20] {&Threei}  where do you see price moving up?
[10:21] {drewj} from the opening
[10:21] {dino} opens are messes
[10:21] {drewj} i'm just trying to see how you looked to fade
[10:22] {ese} s vrtx L .11
[10:22] {RonS} s?
[10:24] {dino} expe l .80
[10:25] {dino} ptla drop
[10:25] {RonS} oled pipe beaten
[10:26] {ese} out vrtx .29 +.18
[10:27] {Will49} :) ese
[10:28] {ese} tks
[10:31] {dino} giddy-up
[10:33] {ese} "Don't Change Horese in the Middle of The Stream"   giddy up....giddy up....high ho Silver........by Tower Of Power
[10:33] {ese} great tune
[10:34] {ese} anw dino
[10:34] {ese} i missed an entry at .20
[10:34] {dino} thx ese
[10:35] {nemo} Yeah, Garibaldi drummed for them I think, and Ellis Hall was in that band for a while
[10:36] {nemo} Hall used to play the Boston area alot in the 70's and early 80's
[10:37] {ese} oh ya he did...........been down to his house in San Fran for a couple of lessons 92/93
[10:37] {dino} anw l .44
[10:37] {nemo} indexes arguably short here
[10:37] {ese} i believe he lives in Seattle now
[10:37] {RonS} ...they played at a dance i attended in Saratoga...1971
[10:37] {ese} awesome
[10:38] {Les} wasn't even born then...
[10:38] {nemo} O.K.  my first concert was Crosby Stills Nash & Young in 1974
[10:38] {nemo} were you born then Les?
[10:39] {RonS} saw the black dude who originally did "Your Still a Young Man" down in Gulfport MS...2 mos before he died...can't remember his name...guy was great...
[10:40] {nemo} Now why can't you remember Ron?
[10:40] {RonS} Harold Melville? Mervin?
[10:40] {nemo} I remember not remembering being at a few shows myself
[10:41] {RonS} was playing in a casino...not advertised...totally stumbled into it
[10:42] {RonS} ese...check it out...was the real deal:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Melvin_%26_the_Blue_Notes
[10:42] {thomcbell} swk looks like short setup still
[10:42] {thomcbell} looking for move back over 74.60
[10:43] {nemo} Yeah, I stumbled into an allen collins gig in Hamburg by accident
[10:43] {Will49} kinda boring without the yappers in DC eh?
[10:44] {ese} that would have been cool ron
[10:44] {nemo} Had come from a "Tom Tom Club" gig-which was the "Talking Heads" without David Byrne.  I come around a corner and there's a bus parked in front of a club, and the sign placard above the windshield says "Albert Collins"  so, in I went.
[10:47] {thomcbell} SWK 74.50 break if holding 74.65 half lot
[10:48] {thomcbell} SWK 1:2
[10:48] {Les} nice
01[10:48] {&Threei}  wtg
[10:48] {thomcbell} chickened out on the above 74.60
[10:48] {thomcbell} looks like it wants that reaction low below 73.50
[10:49] {dino} gj
[10:49] {RonS} elli under pressure
[10:49] {dino} out anw .59, +.15, ty ese
[10:51] {thomcbell} swk flat
[10:52] {ese} well done dino
[10:52] {dino} out expe .92, +.12
[10:54] {nemo} scty weak, vwap around 55.80
[11:01] {nemo} ffiv:  could go to 85.60ish, top shoud be 86.80ish-87
[11:09] {nemo} SPY new highs is like Sauron to his ring
[11:09] {Les} he kept fucking losing it?
[11:10] {Les} to hobbits
[11:10] {nemo} isn't it like you to draw the wrong conclusion to an analogy
01[11:10] {&Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .30 break
01[11:10] {&Threei}  If holds  .40
[11:13] {Les} someone's gotta have fun with boring shits like you
[11:13] {Will49} come on les...put a smiley face on that
01[11:14] {&Threei}  US markets have spent most of the morning in negative territory after Congress reached a deal to resolve the debt standoff on a very temporary basis. Note that terrible Q3 earnings at Goldman Sachs and IBM have slammed the DJIA.
[11:14] {Les} oops sorry
01[11:14] {&Threei}  if market went up, this headline would say:
[11:14] {Will49} this is your father speaking :)  Les
01[11:14] {&Threei}  market enthusiasm cou;n't be supressed even by terrible earning... etc
[11:15] {Les} coulda made it "Les, I AM YOUR FATHER!"
[11:15] {Les} that woulda been funny
01[11:15] {&Threei}  lol
[11:15] {Will49} lol les
01[11:16] {&Threei}  light sabres and heavy breathing
[11:17] {Les} two old geriatrics that need comedy lessons
[11:18] {Les} Vad, I can see you putting out a new book soon
01[11:18] {&Threei}  old geriatrics - isn't it a buttered butter?
[11:19] {Les} can't lay that buttered butter on thick enough I says
01[11:19] {&Threei}  ok GLD... how about you give us 126.90
[11:21] {drewj} seriously?
01[11:21] {&Threei}  if trade works, that's the target
01[11:23] {&Threei}  ot doesn't
[11:28] {Alexs} JPM moving nicely wtf with WFC
[11:28] {RonS} lol...Obama: I am looking for willing partners who are wanting to work with me
[11:28] {RonS} Interpretation: KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!
[11:31] {nemo} frickin grind up
[11:33] {nemo} no sign of index short setups on higher time frame for day
01[11:34] {&Threei}  WFC no go
01[11:34] {&Threei}  annoying day after first 30 min
[11:37] {nemo} if you account for dividend, 172.80 is spy all time high
[11:45] {nemo} Vad, you got the SPY all-time high party hat ready?
01[11:45] {&Threei}  gotta dust it off
[11:54] {thomcbell} vad do u have anything on right now?
01[11:54] {&Threei}  looking around...
01[11:54] {&Threei}  no
01[11:54] {&Threei}  slow creep-up
01[11:54] {&Threei}  need reversal for setups to start appearing again
01[12:01] {&Threei} Short Setup: MCD  .20 break
01[12:01] {&Threei}  If holds  .25
[12:04] {Alexs} MCD triggered?
01[12:04] {&Threei}  not yet
[12:04] {Alexs} k ty
01[12:05] {&Threei}  now it did
[12:05] {Alexs} now I see
[12:06] {Les} SLW coming down GDX may follow here
[12:06] {Les} .40 short?
[12:06] {Les} nah
[12:07] {Les} forgetit
01[12:07] {&Threei}  why
01[12:07] {&Threei}  if holds .45
01[12:07] {&Threei}  why not
[12:07] {nemo} should be good to .35 then seee what happens
[12:07] {Les} was gonna avoid guessing the top
[12:07] {Les} waiting for it to come down a little
01[12:08] {&Threei}  it's a valid setup
01[12:08] {&Threei}  .40 is a good support, .45 is a good resistance
01[12:10] {&Threei}  did MCD really dive to .11 or is it erroneous print?
[12:10] {Alexs} it did
[12:10] {Les} yeh
01[12:10] {&Threei}  missed it
[12:11] {Alexs} it was just 200 shares
01[12:11] {&Threei}  ok... useless then
01[12:11] {&Threei}  but let's trail to .22 now
[12:14] {dino} .
01[12:15] {&Threei}  that's a good point actually
[12:15] {nemo} yep...we're bored
[12:15] {ese} outta here cya tomorrow
01[12:16] {&Threei}  take care ese
01[12:18] {&Threei}  meh
[12:19] {drewj} when will the trend end???
[12:19] {Will49} that's it for me today
[12:19] {Will49} cheers guys
01[12:19] {&Threei}  take care will
[12:19] {drewj} take care will
[12:19] {nemo} party hat time
[12:20] {dino} swk hl l .49
[12:38] {thomcbell} I bought 74.51 break on SWK a few minutes back
[12:38] {thomcbell} FYI
01[12:39] {&Threei}  good one
[12:39] {thomcbell} 1:1
[12:41] {thomcbell} swk 1:2
[12:41] {dino} followed me, huh tbell
[12:42] {thomcbell} yes - it added conviction to my vad setup
[12:43] {thomcbell} tu
[12:43] {dino} stop to .73
[12:44] {dino} out +.24
[12:49] {dino} anik spike
[12:52] {nemo} looks like spy wants to get the stops above 173
[12:53] {nemo} btw, I think the top of the channel from last November when this rally kicked off is just above 173
[12:57] {RonS} prkr
01[12:58] {&Threei} Long Setup:  BBY  .85 break
01[12:58] {&Threei}  If holds  .80
[12:59] {RonS} prkr 20 mil sh short ...danger...
[13:02] {Alexs} bby more looks like dbi doesn't it?
01[13:03] {&Threei}  no... why dbu?
01[13:03] {&Threei}  are you looking at whole day chart?
01[13:03] {&Threei}  or some limited time window, like an hour or two?
01[13:03] {&Threei}  I see nothing even close to DBI
[13:04] {Alexs} last 15 min I mean
01[13:05] {&Threei}  if you cut them out of the day chart, yes... but that's not how you evaluate the chart configuration
[13:05] {dino} prkr patent win over qcom
[13:06] {dino} nus drop
01[13:15] {&Threei}  sigh
[13:15] {dino} hgis
[13:17] {RonS} ?
[13:19] {thomcbell} my stop on swk is 74.70 on last 1/4
[13:24] {RonS} z pressure...
[13:25] {Alexs} fb long 52?
01[13:25] {&Threei}  yup
[13:29] {Alexs} stop .89?
01[13:29] {&Threei}  of course
01[13:29] {&Threei}  after making new high I'd trail to .94
[13:30] {Alexs} no worky
01[13:30] {&Threei}  what the deuce
01[13:31] {&Threei}  moved as if there were news
01[13:31] {&Threei}  but there is none
[13:31] {Alexs} looks like a rinse
01[13:33] {&Threei}  no... honest stop
[13:33] {Alexs} yes
01[13:38] {&Threei}  be back in 30 min
[13:39] {dino} ufpi smr s .75 ave
[13:46] {RonS} kors selloff
[13:47] {Alexs} news?
[13:48] {RonS} came out of closet...turns out he's straight...
[13:49] {dino} kors sm l .04
[13:51] {dino} kors stop .74 -.30
01[13:56] {&Threei}  back
01[13:56] {&Threei}  Michael Kors Holding Ltd Hearing weakness attributed to cautious industry (NPD) data
[13:57] {dino} kors sm l .84
[14:00] {dino} out kors .64, +.80
[14:01] {Alexs} nailed the bastard dino
[14:01] {dino} overall, yeah, lucky
[14:01] {RonS} ns, lost connection here...
[14:02] {dino} thx ron for heads up on kors
[14:09] {Alexs} GLD looks short .45
01[14:09] {&Threei}  very much so
01[14:10] {&Threei}  I am just a bit hesitant, seeing how a few last trades of this kind went
[14:10] {Alexs} yes it's different today
[14:12] {dino} yes, we are working for our cake today
[14:27] {Alexs} c long on .86?
[14:27] {Alexs} or .80 recross
01[14:28] {&Threei}  .80 short looks more entising
01[14:28] {&Threei}  snticing
01[14:28] {&Threei}  enticing
[14:28] {Alexs} lol
[14:28] {nemo} interesting
01[14:28] {&Threei}  tempting
01[14:28] {&Threei}  there
[14:29] {Alexs} ok
[14:33] {dino} tw drop
[14:37] {RonS} nus peeling...
[14:37] {nemo} indexes are actually looking long
[14:40] {dino} partial fill cov ufpi .35, +.40, gappy sucker
[14:40] {dino} ok, filled
[14:40] {dino} tw news?
01[14:41] {&Threei}  nothing fresh
[14:41] {nemo} old, rancid, unbathed news
[14:41] {dino} spoiled
[14:42] {nemo} adulterated
[14:42] {nemo} deflowered
[14:42] {nemo} Bohica'd
[14:42] {Les} slapped
[14:42] {Les} outta here a+
01[14:43] {&Threei}  lol
[14:43] {nemo} I'm frickin' outta' my mind bored
01[14:44] {&Threei}  good old slow creep-up... we forgot how infuriating it can be
[14:44] {nemo} arguably now finnies and spy showing short, but I don't think it will have much range to it
[14:44] {dino} i hear ya nemo, only 2 trades in last 3 hours
[14:45] {dino} damn missed tw
[14:45] {nemo} FAS offered a nice entry around 10:45 other than that, the indexes have been a slow grind
[14:54] {RonS} busted momo...slca
[14:55] {RonS} ffiv looking for a cliff dive...
[14:55] {nemo} yeah, I missed the setup at 1:15
[14:58] {dino} tw lod
[15:00] {nemo} gmcr
[15:00] {dino} tw moves a buck in seconds
01[15:01] {&Threei}  pilp
01[15:01] {&Threei}  pulp
[15:01] {RonS} lol
[15:01] {nemo} gmcr likely to close the gap soon
[15:01] {RonS} thinkin pilp is pulpeyer than pulp
[15:02] {RonS} pulpier
[15:02] {RonS} wmt 5 day low
[15:02] {dino} wmt drop
[15:02] {RonS} gmcr 112 day low
01[15:04] {&Threei}  that was out of bounds print on WMT I guess
[15:04] {dino} thinking same, saw 71s
[15:04] {Alexs} gap form may 8 nemo?
01[15:04] {&Threei}  yup, with huge volume
[15:05] {nemo} then it will probably bounce up to test the 200 day
[15:06] {nemo} that's the generally accepted definition of a bull bear line for a stock
[15:06] {nemo} forgot, it's op ex week
[15:08] {dino} yeah, 3rd friday
01[15:09] {&Threei} Short Setup: BBY  .60 break
01[15:09] {&Threei}  If holds  .70
[15:11] {RonS} lol, was just thinkin...always thought pulp referred to how oats moves through my system...sheesh
[15:14] {dino} lol
[15:14] {nemo} yeah, TMI
[15:23] {RonS} at least it didn't trigger...
[15:23] {nemo} sheesh, gdx gave up the ghost
[15:23] {drewj} that's all for me guys...have a good day
01[15:24] {&Threei}  take care drew
01[15:24] {&Threei}  some days are just...
[15:24] {nemo} LVS running ahead of earnings
[15:30] {Alexs} aig short .65
01[15:30] {&Threei}  will we get any selling into eod
01[15:30] {&Threei}  in hope that we will,
01[15:30] {&Threei} Short Setup: C  51 break
[15:30] {nemo} I don't think so with Op Ex
01[15:30] {&Threei}  If holds  .06
[15:33] {thomcbell} big cup in process on 15 min
[15:33] {thomcbell} and 10 minute but really a nice one on 15
[15:33] {thomcbell} on s[y
[15:33] {thomcbell} spy
01[15:34] {&Threei}  yes
[15:36] {Alexs} c valid?
01[15:36] {&Threei}  I think so
01[15:37] {&Threei}  looks double-toppish
01[15:37] {&Threei}  any help by SPY should send it down
01[15:39] {&Threei}  Invalidated
01[15:39] {&Threei}  AIG is, too
[15:39] {nemo} spy is likely going to the .20 area
01[15:42] {&Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .25 break
01[15:42] {&Threei}  If holds  .35
01[15:42] {&Threei}  last attempt
[15:44] {nemo} you can short indexes here real tight stop
01[15:45] {&Threei}  Invalidated
[15:45] {Alexs} it's not our day
01[15:45] {&Threei}  no
[15:45] {nemo} https://twitter.com/nemome/status/390744991179358209/photo/1
[15:46] {nemo} nope
[15:47] {dino} bummer, decent day here
[15:47] {nemo} grind up days are almost never good days for the Sith Lord
[15:48] {nemo} huge buy imbalances
01[15:48] {&Threei}  well, when market was in that mode long enough we did adjust to it
01[15:48] {&Threei}  but when it's a one-off...
01[15:48] {&Threei}  index stop would have been hit too
01[15:49] {&Threei}  ok guys, let's close on this
01[15:49] {&Threei}  we will get them tomorrow
[15:49] {nemo} yeah, the imbalances just came out big to the buy side this is going up
[15:49] {nemo} there is no book up here, clean air

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Oct 16 2013

Decent day with profitable balance, even though couple trades rinsed us. Overall though, headline risk diminished greatly

Session Time: Wed Oct 16 00:00:00 2013
[08:37] {nemo} In honor of the ongoing debt ceiling debate:  There's light at the end of the tunnel...Let's hope it's not an oncoming train!  ;-)
01[08:54] {&Threei}  well... it is
[08:54] {nemo} yeah
[08:56] {nemo} when this thing is finally resolved we're gonna' have a huge untradeable move, probably north
01[08:56] {&Threei}  except for PMs
[08:56] {nemo} yeah
[09:07] {drewj} gm
01[09:08] {&Threei}  drew :)
[09:09] {drewj} hey
[09:09] {drewj} i was reading your book last night and i have a question when you have time...
01[09:09] {&Threei}  dhoot
01[09:10] {&Threei}  d=s
[09:10] {drewj} what do you mean when you say you buy with the buyers and sell with the buyers?
01[09:10] {&Threei}  buy when stock turns uo, sell before it turns down
[09:11] {dino} gm
01[09:11] {&Threei}  in othert words, sell when you can, not when you have to
01[09:11] {&Threei}  dino :)
[09:11] {drewj} hey dino
[09:12] {drewj} that's how you stick to taking part of a move then...right?
01[09:12] {&Threei}  pretty much
[09:12] {drewj} makes sense...gracias
01[09:12] {&Threei}  market history is full of people who got the move right, and lost money
[09:12] {nemo} same thing can be said about divorce
01[09:12] {&Threei}  simply because they stuck around for too long
01[09:13] {&Threei}  see oil a few years ago
01[09:13] {&Threei}  see gold for the last couple years
[09:13] {nemo} or idiots in gmcr right now
01[09:13] {&Threei}  see tech boom in 2000
01[09:13] {&Threei}  and drilling deeper in history, see tulip mania :)
[09:13] {drewj} so it's just taking pieces of the pie instead of getting greedy
[09:14] {dino} gm drew, 3i
[09:14] {nemo} or do it the government way and steal it from the citizenry
[09:14] {drewj} ty
[09:14] {nemo} looks like a 171 test on the spy
[09:16] {Will49} gm
01[09:16] {&Threei}  will :)
[09:17] {drewj} hey will
[09:18] {Will49} yo drew
[09:18] {Will49} iobot really cleaned things up for me
[09:18] {Will49} took about two hours
[09:19] {drewj} now how's it running?
[09:19] {Will49} i think my laptop even had a venereal disease :)
[09:19] {RonS} good morning everyone...
[09:19] {Will49} a lot quicker
01[09:20] {&Threei}  ron :)
[09:20] {drewj} there's more  you can do but we should talk on another channel so we don't anger cc...:)\
[09:20] {Will49} hey ron
[09:20] {Will49} good idea drew
[09:20] {RonS} aap nuts...2 mil shares short...
[09:21] {RonS} regn...buy any dips...
[09:21] {drewj} for now just clean it once a week...especially if you use the internet
[09:21] {Will49} ok tks drew
[09:23] {Alexs} gm
01[09:24] {&Threei}  alex :)
[09:24] {+cc_9} Mornin'
01[09:25] {&Threei}  cc9 :)
[09:29] {ese} gm
01[09:29] {&Threei}  ese :)
[09:29] {+cc_9} VISN this thing is a beast...
[09:30] {dino} rcpt sm s .69
[09:32] {+cc_9} VISN whoa
01[09:34] {&Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .55 break
01[09:34] {&Threei}  If holds  .65
[09:35] {+cc_9} SWK plunging
[09:36] {dino} lowered guidance
[09:36] {+cc_9} IVZ continuing yesterday's death
[09:36] {dino} gap around 75 swk
01[09:37] {&Threei}  1:1
[09:40] {nemo} aap
01[09:40] {&Threei}  1:2
01[09:42] {&Threei}  {GDX} Will, I heard you have laptop troubles, so I decided to move slowly, not to overtax your technical resources
[09:42] {Les} gm
01[09:42] {&Threei}  les :)
[09:42] {Will49} what a guy :)
[09:42] {drewj} c breakout?
01[09:42] {&Threei}  well, it was so proud to be designated as our Fur Boots sing
[09:43] {Will49} you also likely heard that I'd love a couple of 1:3 to start
01[09:43] {&Threei}  chart is right drew, but SPY retreats
01[09:43] {&Threei}  I'll skip it
[09:43] {drewj} ok
[09:43] {drewj} i actually saw that too
[09:44] {Will49} vad...tks to drew (and nemo) laptop is much better today
01[09:44] {&Threei}  in many cases I actually like this combination as it may work as a sign of nice relative strength
[09:44] {drewj} you mean for trades later in the day?
01[09:44] {&Threei}  but C can be unusually treacherous sometimes
01[09:45] {&Threei}  I saw that will, that's nice program drew showed
[09:45] {Will49} gonna load it on my pc back home also
01[09:45] {&Threei}  see how C moved both up and down with no rhyme or rhythm
[09:45] {drewj} the paid version is better and i think that it supports up to 3 pc's
[09:45] {drewj} for $20
[09:45] {drewj} lifetime subscription too
[09:46] {Will49} good deal
[09:46] {drewj} cat breakdown?
01[09:47] {&Threei} Long Setup:  ABX  .70 break
01[09:47] {&Threei}  If holds  .60
[09:47] {+cc_9} Talk about leaving money on the table...http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9969/mwfn.jpg
[09:48] {Les} hehe shit ourselves did we cc?
[09:50] {nemo} condition you know well Les?
[09:51] {dino} cov rcpt .89, +.80
[09:51] {Les} someone say something?
[09:51] {Will49} f off les
[09:51] {Les} :)
[09:51] {Will49} how's that?
[09:52] {Les} not bad for a geriatric
[09:52] {Will49} lol
[09:52] {nemo} this market wants up so badly, when they settle this thing it's gonna' be a rocket ride higher
[09:53] {dino} or a big sell the news
[09:53] {nemo} no, that's what will be expected
[09:53] {nemo} this should push spy to new all time highs
01[09:54] {&Threei}  no go
[09:56] {+cc_9} DUST $41.00 ugh
[09:57] {RonS} hearing... zerohedge tweet just said Boehner caves in,  said to agree with Senate plan.
[09:58] {+cc_9} of course he is going to
[09:58] {nemo} but does he have the votes
[09:58] {+cc_9} he caved for his daughter marrying bob marley's long lost nephew
01[09:58] {&Threei}  (US) House to reportedly consider voting on Senate debt ceiling/funding bill before the Senate votes in order to expedite the bill - Politico.com- Politico notes that if the House passes the bill first and sends it to the upper chamber, it would eliminate some burdensome procedural hurdles in the Senate and require just one procedural roll call with a 60-vote threshold needed to advance the bill toward final passage in the Senate. - Follow up: Senate negotiators are said to be very close to announcing a deal, according to aides. - Congressional aide confirms Senate and House leaders are talking about ways to expedite passage of the bill, Boehner to allow vote in House to pass with Democratic votes.
[09:59] {+cc_9} SWK coming back some
[10:05] {dino} out leftovers z from thursday, 82.90, +3.90
[10:06] {Will49} cheater:)
[10:06] {dino} lol
[10:10] {dino} inv hl l .75 stop lod
01[10:10] {&Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .90 break
01[10:11] {&Threei}  If holds  22
[10:11] {RonS} dino ???
[10:12] {Les} SDS 35 break is interesting
[10:12] {dino} ron?
[10:12] {RonS} inv?
[10:13] {nemo} just short sso
[10:13] {dino} opps ivz sorry
[10:13] {dino} wow, way off on that
[10:23] {dino} fang sm s .32
01[10:28] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .20 break
01[10:28] {&Threei}  If holds  .10
[10:28] {dino} cov fang .60 -.28
[10:29] {Alexs} and pray for good news
01[10:31] {&Threei}  or no news
01[10:31] {&Threei}  either would work
[10:32] {Alexs} today no news impossible
01[10:32] {&Threei}  well, for the duration of the trade
[10:32] {Alexs} lol
[10:33] {Alexs} ok Boehner is ready
[10:33] {dino} elli sm l .30
[10:35] {nemo} aap setting up for bounce here
[10:39] {Alexs} what about .10 entry?
[10:39] {dino} elli struggling, stop is b \ lod
01[10:39] {&Threei}  yup
01[10:39] {&Threei}  change to .10 break
01[10:39] {&Threei}  If holds  .05
[10:43] {dino} ivz to b/e
[10:44] {Alexs} oh no
[10:47] {dino} out ivz .99, +.24
01[10:50] {&Threei}  Senate deal about to be announced, sources say
[10:50] {dino} elli stop -.08
01[10:50] {&Threei}  Bipartisan deal in hand to reopen government, avoid default, Republican senator says
01[10:51] {&Threei} Short Setup: GLD  .70 break
01[10:51] {&Threei}  If holds  .80
[10:53] {dino} wtf elli
[10:54] {RonS} Tom Caughlin?
[10:54] {Alexs} stop still .81?
[10:54] {RonS} ...saying that regularly...
01[10:55] {&Threei}  .76
[10:55] {dino} takes me ou at .23, runs to .80s
[10:55] {Alexs} k
[10:55] {Les} inverted cup and handle slw
[10:56] {dino} fang rinsed also
01[10:57] {&Threei}  1:1
[10:58] {RonS} ya, i sold you your cover at .60 and held...want .10...
[10:59] {dino} you sob, :)
[10:59] {RonS} got shook out of elli like you, if that makes you feel better :)
[11:00] {dino} that was a f job, figured break lod and go to high .60s below for re-load, no go
01[11:00] {&Threei}  frikin GLD, reversed 2 cents from 1:2
01[11:02] {&Threei}  C... sheesh
[11:02] {Alexs} bby
01[11:09] {&Threei} Short Setup: C  .40 break
01[11:09] {&Threei}  If holds  .45
[11:10] {RonS} elli tackled...
[11:11] {nemo} spy likely has to get to .21 before a C short possible
01[11:12] {&Threei}  1:1
[11:15] {nemo} 1:2
01[11:15] {&Threei}  ?
01[11:15] {&Threei}  not yet
[11:15] {nemo} .05 stop
01[11:15] {&Threei}  then 1:3
[11:15] {nemo} hell, you're 1:3
[11:15] {Alexs} lol
01[11:16] {&Threei}  we agreed to count r/r in 10 cents even when stop is 5
01[11:16] {&Threei}  since we rarely if ever take 5 cent profits
[11:16] {Les} sounds like a wall st accounting gimmick to me
01[11:16] {&Threei}  and to keep it uniform...
01[11:16] {&Threei}  imagine:
[11:17] {nemo} so youdon't have to think....I understand
01[11:17] {&Threei}  1:1 but since it's 5 cents stop we don't take profit here
01[11:17] {&Threei}  1:2
01[11:17] {&Threei}  actually, the opther way around Les
01[11:17] {&Threei}  stats would have looked way better if I counted r/rs from 5 cent stops point of view
[11:18] {Les} I don't wanna think and this is hurting my head...
01[11:18] {&Threei}  so I adopt this way for trading correctness sake while sacrificing PR
01[11:18] {&Threei}  right now I would be announcing 1:4 if not for that
[11:20] {Les} watching SDS for DB
[11:22] {RonS} mr fat chance?
[11:22] {Will49} lol ron
[11:24] {Alexs} makes sense to trail to .21?
[11:24] {dino} wait for it.... out bofi from thursday, 69.75, +5.25
[11:25] {Will49} aw come on dino
01[11:25] {&Threei}  .25...
06[11:25] * Les slaps dino around with a huge roll of cash
[11:25] {dino} i know, cheating
[11:26] {dino} if it makes you feel better ot was only 300 sh
[11:26] {Will49} buy a lottery ticket today
[11:26] {dino} elli sm l .15
[11:26] {Will49} makes me feel good when you do good
[11:26] {dino} thx
[11:26] {Will49} you're my hero :)
[11:27] {Will49} after Vad, that is
[11:27] {Will49} i know....brown noser
01[11:27] {&Threei}  to .21 now
[11:40] {+cc_9} SWK creeping up
[11:40] {RonS} racheting?
[11:44] {Les} c JBE
[11:48] {Les} great entry on ELLI dino
[11:48] {Les} wanted over .20 but a bit spready and jumped fast
[11:49] {Alexs} what's your target SWK cc?
[11:49] {+cc_9} Need it first over $78 before anything
[11:50] {+cc_9} if stays sideways, algos will keep it flat on spread trading till the bell
[11:50] {Alexs} ok thanks
[11:51] {dino} out elli .68, +.53
[11:52] {dino} thx ron for heads up on it 11:11
[11:52] {RonS} np
[11:56] {Alexs} c forming c&h
[11:59] {RonS} lulu
[12:00] {dino} lulu drop
[12:03] {dino} missed, was waiting 73.02
[12:04] {Les} vad IVZ short .70?
01[12:05] {&Threei}  nah
[12:05] {Les} sorry BBY
01[12:05] {&Threei}  .80. maybe
[12:05] {Les} wrong ticker
01[12:05] {&Threei}  yup, this one looks nice
[12:05] {Les} BBY short .70
[12:05] {+cc_9} LULU nice alert.
[12:07] {Les} nasty one to play with though cc .70 cent candles
[12:07] {Will49} Vad..clarify call on BBY please
[12:09] {+cc_9} no such thing as nasty  Les
[12:09] {+cc_9} LULU has a pattern of recovering on any intraday sell-off
[12:09] {+cc_9} its back near 75 now
01[12:09] {&Threei} Short Setup: BBY  .70 break
01[12:10] {&Threei}  If holds  .80
[12:10] {Will49} tks
[12:13] {Les} lulu coming down for a second go
[12:13] {dino} oils rockin
[12:17] {+cc_9} SWK there she goes!
[12:18] {+cc_9} Alexs, keep on radar
[12:18] {Alexs} thanks cc
01[12:20] {&Threei}  stop to .76
[12:21] {Les} lulu looking like its getting dumped
[12:21] {Will49} DB Vad?
01[12:21] {&Threei}  shouldn't be
[12:21] {Will49} why the drop in stop?
[12:21] {+cc_9} SWK clearing .30 bid here
[12:22] {dino} amx spike
01[12:22] {&Threei}  topped round .70 on the bounce and revisited the low...
[12:22] {Will49} aha
[12:22] {Will49} tks
[12:22] {dino} amx sm s .16
01[12:23] {&Threei}  let's over half
01[12:23] {&Threei}  too much hesitance near 1:1
[12:23] {RonS} AMX withdrawing offer for KPN
01[12:23] {&Threei}  don't want to miss the cover and then bitch about 1 cent
01[12:23] {&Threei}  over = cover
[12:23] {Les} especially as it is my first setup since returning
[12:24] {Les} need some good vibes
01[12:24] {&Threei}  gernuine 1:1 now
[12:24] {dino} thx ron
[12:24] {Les} Danny got me up and running on DAS
01[12:24] {&Threei}  -r
01[12:24] {&Threei}  here come good vibes
01[12:24] {&Threei}  *(US) SENATE LEADERS CONFIRM BIPARTISAN PLAN ON REOPENING GOVT AND DEBT LIMIT EXTENSIONProvisions include: - Funding govt through Jan 15 - Debt limit extension through Feb 7 - Negotiations on a longer term debt reduction agreement to be reached by mid-December. Sen Murray and Rep Ryan to lead the budget conference committee. - Agreement does not limit Treasury authority to use extraordinary measures to extend debt limit [which would allow Treasury to extend debt deadline through March 2014]. - Senate Minority Leader McConnell (R-KY): Confident that govt will be reopened, spending issues to be addressed. Republicans will continue to try to overturn Obamacare, claims Obamacare is 'ravaging the country'. - Separately, Republican Senators say they do not expect Senator Cruz to hold up passage of the deal in the Senate.
[12:24] {Les} hehehe
[12:25] {Les} DIE!!!!!!!
[12:25] {dino} amx cov .12, +.02
01[12:26] {&Threei}  (CA) Canada PM Harper office under evacuation by the police as a result of a suspicious package- Canada press- Suspect is in custody
[12:26] {RonS} Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, says he won't block a vote in Senate to end debt ceiling crisis - @CNNPolitics
[12:26] {Les} you sending meatloaf in the mail again vad?
[12:27] {Les} russian sausage?
[12:27] {Alexs} so where is the rally?
[12:27] {Alexs} looks like market doesn't care
[12:27] {RonS} spy up 22 and Alex wonders where is rally?
[12:28] {dino} reload amx sm s .44
[12:28] {RonS} spx...
01[12:29] {&Threei}  1:2
[12:29] {Les} yeh baby
[12:30] {dino} 07 red
[12:30] {Les} guess wall st needed 5 mins to put down their buritos
[12:32] {dino} cov amx .04, +.40
[12:34] {Will49} nice 1:2 vad
[12:34] {Les} out ty
01[12:34] {&Threei}  :)
[12:34] {Will49} managed to catch the .50 right on
[12:36] {Les} thought about it Will but wanna stretch out the r/r something failed to do last time
[12:36] {Will49} yeah...i feel a little guilty exiting too
[12:37] {Will49} not going by our rules
[12:38] {Will49} but then again.....
[12:38] {Will49} evn the master pinched the 1:1 by a cent
[12:38] {Will49} even
[12:38] {Les} :)
[12:39] {Will49} Vad nervous=me nervous
[12:39] {Will49} someday i'll get nervous on my own
[12:40] {dino} lol
[12:46] {nemo} aap lookin gshort
01[12:49] {&Threei}  lol
01[13:03] {&Threei}  "Creditworthiness is like virginity, It can be preserved but not restored very easily." - Buffett
[13:03] {Will49} LOL
[13:03] {Will49} not funny, i guess
06[13:09] * Les slaps Warren Buffet around with a packet of condoms
[13:09] {Les} sds cup and handle breakout
[13:12] {nemo} spy just testing vwap for first time, not yet
[13:13] {nemo} finnies haven't tested it
[13:13] {Les} yeh stright into vwap sds
[13:13] {nemo} if it resists .80 then things getting interesting for short
[13:21] {Les} outta here a+
[13:24] {dino} rcpt spike
[13:29] {dino} ugh! partial fill rcpt s .74
[13:46] {dino} stop rcpt .97 -.23
[13:47] {drewj} dino how do you find these stocks?  Are you using vad's scanner?
[13:47] {dino} not vads, my own scanners
[13:48] {drewj} would you mind telling me what they are?
[13:48] {dino} 07 is a constantly moving 20 stocks, each must move by .07 to show
[13:48] {dino} others top 25% movers up/down for today and afterhours
[13:49] {drewj} i understand the second thing you said but what about 07 and 20?
[13:49] {dino} on the .07, it must be new daily hi or low, if hits multiple times, its pulp
[13:49] {drewj} what site or platform do you use for this?
[13:50] {dino} now that you know, i must kill you
[13:50] {drewj} oh boy
[13:50] {drewj} take it easy goose
[13:50] {dino} its in my trading platform, i just adjusted it to suit my "edge"
[13:51] {drewj} what platform do you use?
[13:51] {dino} ron and cipher must use somthing similar, they post some of the same stuff my scanners kicking out
[13:52] {dino} street smart edge
01[13:52] {&Threei}  any scanner showing large moves will spit those out
[13:53] {RonS} use madscan here...
[13:54] {dino} rinsed rcpt
[13:59] {dino} rcpt sm s .55
01[13:59] {&Threei}  beige book
01[13:59] {&Threei}  usual bs
01[14:00] {&Threei}  *(US) FED'S BEIGE BOOK: ECONOMY GREW AT MODEST TO MODERATE PACE IN MOST DISTRICTS
01[14:00] {&Threei}  (US) House Republican caucus to meet at 1500ET; Senate vote to come after 17:00ET, House expected to vote later tonight - CNBC- Rep Lankford (R-OK): The deal is expected to pass the House - CNBC - Follow up: Senate aides indicate House and Senate will pass the deal later today, allowing President Obama to sign it into law before the Oct 17th deadline. - Indicates bill will include back pay for Federal workers. - Follow up 13:35ET: House to allow Senate to vote first on the debt agreement - House Minority Leader Pelosi: Would have liked to see debt celing lifted beyond February; hopeful bill can be in the House this evening - Senate Vote expected at around 1700ET; House vote later in the evening.
[14:01] {dino} paid vacations for fed workers, sheesh
[14:02] {nemo} The Dems are going to be able to put through any legislation they want now.  Republicans have castrated themselves
[14:02] {RonS} ...they were on vacation anyway so double pay?
01[14:04] {&Threei}  this will teach those repubs how to defund the government. Not only they haven't saved any money, they also allowed fed workers to have nice couple weeks off, with full pay
01[14:04] {&Threei}  spineless clueless bunch...
[14:04] {dino} grmn spike
[14:05] {Alexs} they got just one thing all democratic congress next year
[14:06] {nemo} that means FTT and an end to day trading
[14:06] {RonS} FTT?
[14:06] {dino} ?
01[14:06] {&Threei}  I doubt that
[14:06] {nemo} Financial Transaction Tax
[14:06] {dino} no way
[14:06] {nemo} yep
01[14:07] {&Threei}  there is appetite for that only in extreme fringe left
[14:07] {nemo} Europe is doing it
[14:07] {RonS} ...only if Congress exempted
[14:07] {dino} better chance jets winning superbowl
[14:07] {nemo} no my guy here from Southie all for it
01[14:07] {&Threei}  Europe is regretting it
[14:07] {nemo} Congress already exempted from everything regarding trading
[14:07] {dino} sure, they sold few weeks ago and bought yesterday
[14:09] {Will49} gotta go take care of the home fires
01[14:09] {&Threei}  if alex is right and we have hourse turning democratic next fall, it will be official: republicans' brand is the worst PR folks ever
01[14:09] {&Threei}  home fires?
[14:09] {Will49} see ya Monday...good luck in the last hour
01[14:09] {&Threei}  take care will
[14:09] {dino} fall is a long time away, lots can happen
[14:09] {nemo} if economy gets worse, that goes democrats way
01[14:10] {&Threei}  is it new code word for wife, home fire?
[14:11] {RonS} ...never known a guy who admits to being whipped so often...well, uh, except Les...
[14:11] {dino} lol
[14:17] {nemo} the only reason the GOP held on to the House was re-districting\
[14:18] {RonS} wherer? the dems screwed the republicans here...
[14:18] {RonS} total gerrymander
[14:19] {nemo} Yeah, happens in MA too, but that's all that helped them hold the House
[14:20] {dino} two words; term  limits
[14:21] {nemo} never happen
[14:24] {RonS} the thing that pisses me off is how dems srew up a state and it gets so bad they move to a repub state...
[14:24] {RonS} ...and carry their same politics, change it, and screw it up...
[14:25] {RonS} CO, NC, SC to name a few...
[14:26] {nemo} and all the MAssholes leave here and fuck up Maine NH and VT
[14:26] {RonS} first Clinto election there were 200k more repubs than dems in CO...next election even...next +200k dems...freakin dem white flight from CA
01[14:31] {&Threei}  Club for Growth recommends conservatives vote against the bipartisan Senate deal- Note: Reports yesterday evening indicated that the House did not come to a vote after the Heritage Action Committee threatened poor marks for any Republicans who supported the deal.
01[14:31] {&Threei}  {--- crying
01[14:32] {&Threei}  poor marks eh
01[14:32] {&Threei}  and gold stars for those who vote against?
01[14:33] {&Threei}  hey, I can paint within the lines (I think) - do I get a gold star?
01[14:33] {&Threei}  I am sure this skill is quite advanced for that crowd
[14:33] {Alexs} lol
01[14:34] {&Threei} Long Setup:  C  .61 break
01[14:34] {&Threei}  If holds  .55
[14:36] {dino} rcpt stop .77 -.22
[14:42] {dino} wow rcpt
01[14:44] {&Threei}  http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/400/img/photos/2013/10/15/cf/92/14-obamacare-restaurant-sign_560x375_1.jpg
01[14:50] {&Threei}  1:1
[15:14] {nemo} well, at least we should be able to get this headline risk out of the way for a while
[15:16] {dino} rcpt rinsed again, crazy one
[15:37] {+cc_9} i am not on auto away screw you mibbit!
01[15:38] {&Threei}  lol
[15:40] {nemo} mibbit has good taste
[15:42] {RonS} uri
[15:43] {nemo} news?
01[15:43] {&Threei}  market is finishing as JBE
[15:43] {RonS} earnings release...
01[15:43] {&Threei}  United Rentals, Inc Reports Q3 $1.63 adj v $1.58e, R$1.31B v $1.31Be- Guides FY13 adj EBITDA $B (prior $2.25-2.35B)
[15:43] {nemo} gotta' get those all time highs sooner or later, however IBM could put a damper on that after hours
[15:45] {nemo} wow
[15:46] {dino} couple big gaps below on spy, dia
[15:46] {nemo} and one above
[15:46] {dino} 172.73?
[15:47] {nemo} yeah starting around .32 I think
[15:47] {nemo} IWM forming a wedge, couldn't get below vwap all day, finnies either
[15:48] {nemo} probably boom higher tomorrow as a relief rally
[15:48] {dino} leaving another gao i imagine
[15:48] {dino} gap
[15:51] {Alexs} ty and gn all
01[15:52] {&Threei}  thank you all
01[15:52] {&Threei}  have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:52] {dino} thx vad, gn all