Showing posts with label LVS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label LVS. Show all posts

Thursday, July 1, 2010

Jul 01 2010

Nice day, as we got a few good trades on both sides. For the Catch of the Day we have
beautiful long play on LVS reversal today, break of mini-range formed at the bottom. While chart is self-explanatory, whole play was based on general market read: reversal as opposite to breakdown. Read the comments starting from 11:04 and look at intraday SPY chart for comparison.



Session Time: Thu Jul 01 00:00:00 2010

[07:54] {strider} .
[08:10] {hawk} good morning
[08:27] {Threei}  good morning
[08:28] {rdw09} Good morning
[08:28] {Threei}  rdw :)
[08:28] {Threei}  (US) Preview: Weekly Initial Jobless Claims due at 08:30 ET (12:30 GMT)
[08:28] {Threei}  **Consensus expectations:
[08:28] {Threei}  - Initial claims expected at 455Ke v prior week's 457K (estimates range from 440K to 475K)
[08:28] {Threei}  - Continuing claims seen at 4.55Me v prior week at 4.548M (range seen from 4.45M to 4.57M)
[08:29] {Threei}  (US) Former Fed Chairman Greenspan: This is not a normal economic recovery
[08:29] {Threei}  - Believes current conditions are a typical pause in recovery
[08:29] {Threei}  - Believes banks and high wealth individuals are driving recovery, small business is not carrying the recovery.
[08:29] {Les} lol
[08:29] {Threei}  this guy irritates me even when he says right things
[08:30] {Les} afternoon
[08:30] {Threei}  *(US) INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 472K V 455KE
[08:30] {Threei}  Les :)
[08:30] {Threei}  CONTINUING CLAIMS: 4.616M V 4.55ME
[08:31] {Threei}  Prior initial claims revised higher from 457K to 459K
[08:31] {Threei}  - Prior continuing claims revised higher from 4.548M to 4.573M
[08:31] {Threei}  oh boy
[08:35] {Threei}  BP, what's up
[08:36] {hawk} no idea, but in from .31
[08:36] {Threei}  :)
[08:37] {Les} sweet entry. perhaps takeover talk
[08:37] {Threei}  topping
[08:37] {hawk} out
[08:37] {Threei}  takeover talk seems total bs to me
[08:37] {hawk} just took off after the numbers
[08:38] {Threei}  who needs undetermined liabilities,
[08:38] {Threei}  and who would allow BP to sell itself without meting those
[08:38] {strider} GYRO
[08:38] {strider} :)
[08:39] {hawk} DNDN taken to the woodshed
[08:39] {Threei}  Gyrodine of America Court of Claims Issues Favorable Opinion in Condemnation Litigation; court awards $98.7M
[08:39] {Threei}  - A Longreal estate investment trust, announced today that the Court of Claims of the State of New issued an opinion requiring the State to pay to Gyrodyne an additional $98,685,000 for land appropriated in 2005.
[08:54] {Les} BP serious
[09:01] {hawk} seriously
[09:02] {dptl} good morning
[09:02] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:03] {dino} gm all
[09:03] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:04] {dino} surprised you hosers are here on canada day :D
[09:05] {Threei}  really
[09:05] {dino} lol
[09:05] {Threei}  well, I'll leave 30 min early to catch a celebration
[09:05] {dino} enjoy
[09:06] {hawk} wearing my touk in tribute
[09:07] {Threei}  lol
[09:13] {dino} dndn
[09:13] {Threei}  yeah... your client
[09:14] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:15] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:18] {nemo} battle zone 30 area bp
[09:22] {larisa} gm :)
[09:22] {Threei}  larisa :)
[09:23] {larisa} vad :)
[09:23] {Threei}  5 white Ravens spotted on Vancouver Island
[09:24] {lasertrev} morning
[09:24] {Threei}  trev :)
[09:24] {bellowsbunch} gm
[09:24] {Threei}  bellows :)
[09:26] {Raven} {}
[09:27] {nemo} oh great, raven glyphs
[09:27] {Threei}  thought you'd get interested
[09:27] {Raven} hmmmmm'
[09:27] {Raven} cross dressers?
[09:27] {Threei}  http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=aeeb81cb-3e94-44b7-91e3-aa9d1ce56c27
[09:28] {nemo} obviously not your progeny
[09:29] {Threei}  watching LVS, BP, DNDN
[09:33] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .20 break if holding .10
[09:34] {Threei}  hesitated about DNDN .50 break... too bad
[09:34] {Threei}  LVS 1:1
[09:34] {Threei}  half out
[09:34] {Threei}  1:2
[09:34] {Threei}  1/4 more out
[09:34] {Threei}  stop to b/e
[09:35] {dino} hl l whr .16
[09:36] {Threei}  DNDN
[09:36] {Threei}  all the way back
[09:36] {Threei}  smallish shares long .65
[09:36] {dino} whr stopped -.30
[09:36] {Threei}  if holding .50
[09:37] {Threei}  1:1
[09:37] {dino} ctrp hl l .89
[09:37] {Threei}  LVS over 1:3
[09:37] {Threei}  1:4, out
[09:37] {rdw09} ty threei LVS + .19
[09:37] {Threei}  DNDN 1:3, full out
[09:37] {Threei}  rdw :)
[09:38] {Threei}  wow, almost dollar move DNDN
[09:39] {dino} wtfg
[09:39] {Threei}  ty
[09:39] {Threei}  Canada day you know... national pride
[09:39] {jfjf64} wtfg
[09:39] {dino} lol
[09:39] {Threei}  lol
[09:40] {bellowsbunch} dndn you in?
[09:40] {jfjf64} fishing soon
[09:40] {Threei}  09:37] {Threei} DNDN 1:3, full out
[09:42] {dino} metal/mining move clf, fcx
[09:42] {Threei}  LVS pulling back
[09:42] {Threei}  watching for secondary entry
[09:42] {Threei}  ideally, drop to about .15 - .20
[09:42] {jfjf64} do  ya  magic 3i
[09:42] {nemo} 200 just under 35
[09:42] {nemo} .35
06[09:43] * Threei waves his magic wand
[09:43] {jfjf64} go  mt
[09:43] {Threei}  oops... major immigration reform spech next hour... I swear this is not what I waved that wand for, jf
[09:43] {dino} ctrp stopped. break time
[09:44] {nemo} lvs .33 offer
[09:44] {nemo} huge
[09:44] {jfjf64} lvs
[09:44] {Threei}  here it comes
[09:44] {jfjf64} comon baby
[09:44] {dino} whr sm l .00
[09:44] {Threei}  lol, jumped off .17
[09:44] {Threei}  how's that for precision
[09:45] {jfjf64} missed
[09:45] {jfjf64} ya in
[09:45] {Threei}  me too
[09:45] {Threei}  no
[09:45] {nemo} on my chart right off .15
[09:45] {Threei}  .15 was out of bounds print
[09:45] {nemo} oh
[09:45] {Threei}  actual level 2 bottom was .17
[09:45] {jfjf64} still live
[09:45] {Les} lvs
[09:46] {ese} good morning...slept in.....had a show to play last night
[09:46] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:46] {nemo} frickin' musicians
[09:46] {jfjf64} mornin ese
[09:46] {Threei}  - Chatter circulating of a 'weaker'than expected ISM Manufacturing data out of the US. Analyst estimates at 59.0e v 59.7 prior
[09:46] {Threei}  US) Preview: June ISM Manufacturing Index due out at 10:00ET
[09:46] {Threei}  **consensus expectation:
[09:46] {Threei}  - ISM Manufacturing: 59.0e v 59.7 prior
[09:47] {Threei}  US) Preview: May Pending Home Sales due out at 10:00ET
[09:47] {Threei}  **Consensus expectations (m/m): -14.2%e v +6.0% prior
[09:47] {nemo} get ready to kick off orders in faz and tza :)
[09:47] {jfjf64} lvs still on
[09:47] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .25 if holding .15
[09:47] {Threei}  just a scalp most likely
[09:49] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:49] {dino} rimm gap fill, nemo?
[09:50] {Threei}  hey, here comes jobs recovery:
[09:50] {Threei}  MS Plans to hire 100 new bankers for the private banking division (update)
[09:50] {Threei}  - Firm may seek another 400 bankers by the end of 2011
[09:50] {dino} dino crazy prediction, msft cx'd kin, will now try to buy rimm
[09:51] {Threei}  kin?
[09:51] {dino} their new phone
[09:51] {Threei}  oh
[09:51] {Les} rimm!
[09:51] {Les} death
[09:52] {Threei}  Recent emerging market data suggests some cracks in the BRIC wall
[09:52] {Threei}  - The conventional wisdom in the first half of 2010 has been that global economic recovery will be led by emerging economies, as the developed world more slowly crawls out of the ditch of its various financial crises. However, cracks appeared in this argument this week, as poor data showed that trouble with the recovery in the developed world is certainly carrying over into emerging market economies.
[09:52] {Threei}  - On Tuesday the US-based Conference Board adjusted its April China Leading Indicator to 0.3% from 1.7% prior, citing a calculation error. The move contributed to panic selling in global equity markets that day. Then the China June Manufacturing PMI data released on Wednesday came in at a four-month low, missing expectations. The key new orders and employment sub indices showed notable sequential declines. Following the data, the China Stats Bureau stated that China's export outlook is grim and warned that the PMI data reflected the slow global recovery
[09:53] {Threei}  - In Brazil, today's May industrial production index was flat, missing expectations of +1.5%.
[09:53] {Threei}  Australia, whose economy is driven mainly by commodity demand from Asia's emerging economies, reported some dicey data. The Australia May building approvals declined more than 6% over April levels, while May retail sales fell to a three-month low.
[09:54] {Threei}  On Wednesday Taiwan's June Manufacturing PMI data dropped considerably over the May figure. India's June Markit Manufacturing PMI reading also declined from the May figure.
[09:54] {Threei}  Finally there is the Baltic Dry Index, a key metric of global trade: today the index fell 2.3% to 2,351 points, extending to 25 days its longest decline since August 2005.
[09:55] {nemo} lvs db?
[09:55] {jfjf64} lvs vad
[09:55] {nemo} jf look
[09:55] {Threei}  nope
[09:55] {Threei}  doesn't look right to me
[09:56] {jfjf64} nice look
[09:57] {dino} #s in 3 min
[09:57] {nemo} coffee time
[09:57] {Threei}  let's wait numbers out
[09:57] {Threei}  two sets
[09:57] {jfjf64} sounds  good
[09:58] {jfjf64} like  structure
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) MAY PENDING HOME SALES (M/M): -15.6% V -14.2%E
[10:00] {Threei}  yuck
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) MAY CONSTRUCTION SPENDING (M/M): -0.2% V -0.8%E
[10:00] {Threei}  US) JUNE ISM MANUFACTURING: 56.2 V 59.0E
[10:00] {Threei}  yuck
[10:00] {nemo} my software frozen
[10:00] {jfjf64} gettin  hit
[10:00] {nemo} locked up
[10:01] {jfjf64} aapl
[10:01] {Threei}  fine here
[10:01] {nemo} just came back
[10:01] {Threei}  your computer is wanting
[10:01] {nemo} but staccato
[10:02] {dino} qcom at march '09 level
[10:02] {Threei}  PRICES PAID: 57 V 70E
[10:02] {Threei}  can you say deflation?
[10:03] {Threei}  US) MAY PENDING HOME SALES (M/M): -30% V -14.2%E; (Y/Y): -15.6% V +24.6% PRIOR
[10:03] {dino} d e f l a t i o n ; yes
[10:03] {Threei}  can you say stimulus end, and wasted? no recovery on its own, just digesting money injected
[10:04] {Threei}  frikin keynesian imbeciles
[10:04] {jfjf64} 100p%%
[10:04] {Threei}  OK, LVS
[10:04] {Threei}  almost time
[10:04] {Threei}  pullback under .60 for long entry
[10:04] {Threei}  if holding .50
[10:05] {dino} hl l qcom .50
[10:05] {Threei}  .60 recross
[10:05] {dino} meli sm l .01
[10:05] {Threei}  stop under .50
[10:05] {dino} ups, fdx green
[10:06] {Threei}  should be good for 1:2 at least
[10:06] {dino} itri sm l .45
[10:07] {jfjf64} ty
[10:07] {jfjf64} magic man
[10:08] {dino} ctrp sm l .41
[10:08] {Threei}  1:1
[10:08] {Threei}  half out
[10:08] {Threei}  scalpers are scalpers
[10:11] {Threei}  scalpers win
[10:12] {nemo} s rim .49
[10:13] {nemo} I'm having real computer problems.
[10:13] {Threei}  need quotes?
[10:14] {Threei}  .28 RIMM
[10:14] {nemo} nah, covered .35 and .25 gonna reboot
[10:14] {Threei}  .25
[10:14] {Threei}  OK
[10:14] {jfjf64} cof
[10:14] {Threei}  LVS .50 break deserved short...
[10:14] {dino} stopped meli -.30
[10:15] {dino} stopped ctrp -.20
[10:15] {Les} let's grab the next bounce. I am totally out of sync today. need a score
[10:15] {dino} stop itri -.05
[10:15] {dino} gut says capit coming
[10:17] {Les} bp rig holding up well
[10:18] {dino} whr -20 pts in 9 days
[10:22] {dino} meli sm l .50
[10:22] {dino} itri sm l .09
[10:23] {jfjf64} bp
[10:23] {nemo} that was scary
[10:23] {Les} that was frickin frustrating
[10:23] {nemo} what?
[10:24] {Les} missing entries
[10:24] {dino} ctrp sm l .11
[10:24] {nemo} what I miss?
[10:24] {Les} me missing the entries
[10:27] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .30 break if holding .20
[10:28] {Threei}  let's trail to under .25, was close enough to 1:1
[10:29] {Threei}  want to limit risk in case we get another sharp market drop
[10:31] {Threei}  out
[10:33] {Threei}  BP...
[10:34] {nemo} fcx short?
[10:34] {Threei}  holding just under 27 resistance well while market drops
[10:34] {Threei}  probably woprth a shot long
[10:34] {Threei}  if holding .90
[10:34] {Threei}  FCX, .10 break was... not here
[10:35] {nemo} yep
[10:35] {dptl} 30? bp
[10:35] {Threei}  lol, yes
[10:35] {Threei}  looking at may stocks at once
[10:35] {nemo} quite the battle at 58 on whoa
[10:35] {dptl} l 30 bp
[10:35] {nemo} was gonna say lose 58 sayonara
[10:36] {nemo} fcx that is
[10:36] {dptl} stopped
[10:36] {Les} that's it for me for the day
[10:36] {nemo} getting slammed les?
[10:37] {Les} yep
[10:37] {Les} realised that I needed to loosen up on entry/exit limits with such market speed but too late now
[10:38] {Les} and some stupid chasing just too top it off
[10:38] {nemo} chasing in volatility...got vaseline?
[10:38] {Threei}  why do you waste your papertrading experience?
[10:39] {Threei}  how many times we spoke of your questionable entries way above the trigger
[10:39] {Threei}  that is supposed to be training wheels stage
[10:39] {Threei}  where you lick out errors
[10:41] {hawk} bp?
[10:41] {nemo} wtf
[10:41] {nemo} bp
[10:42] {Threei}  BP Starts negotiations with an oil firm in China with regards to a stake in Argentina - Sky news
[10:42] {Threei}  assets sale...
[10:43] {Les} ok I'm still here
[10:44] {Les} don't want to miss possible afternoon rally. make amends
[10:45] {Threei}  AMAP IPO opens for trade at $13.00
[10:45] {nemo} oh...speaking of, how's tsla doing?
[10:47] {dino} whr hl .25 l
[10:49] {Les} ty dino out whr +.47
[10:50] {dino} finally hit one
[10:50] {Les} aaaaaaw maaaaaan
[10:50] {dino} out whr .99, +.74
[10:53] {larisa} wth, robin just slammed into my window and died :(
[10:54] {Les} no little birdy stickers on your window?
[10:55] {dino} bummer
[10:55] {dino} your windows are too clean
[10:55] {larisa} I guess windows are too clean, birds are crazy  this time of year. Love is in the air
[10:55] {larisa} lol dino
[10:55] {dino} les, whr\
[10:56] {Les} will follow it. 100 shares only today
[10:59] {nemo} look to short fcx .50 area?
[11:00] {Threei}  can't tell
[11:00] {nemo} not sure it will get there ;)
[11:01] {dino} since june 21st, dji -9%; ndx -12%, s/p -10.5%. pretty big drop for 8.5 trade days
[11:02] {Les} haven't even heard tomorrows bad unemployment report yet
[11:02] {nemo} that's probably baked in after today
[11:02] {Les} or perhaps the market has already worked it out
[11:02] {Les} right nemo
[11:03] {nemo} awww shit...Les agreed with me...
[11:03] {Les} sometimes you are a miracle of clarity
[11:03] {nemo} you like the divergences on fcx lari?
[11:04] {Threei}  IMO... market bounce time
[11:04] {larisa} sorry nemo, I am in another app right now, testing automated system in real time, do not see my indicators
[11:05] {nemo} another algo in the making
[11:06] {Les} lvs .90 if holding .80?
[11:06] {larisa} another idiot trying to make her life easier, living on the beach while comp makes her money :)
[11:06] {Threei}  yes Les
[11:06] {dino} gl
[11:06] {nemo} could be worse
[11:07] {Threei}  invalidated though
[11:07] {nemo} 3rd test fcx 57 area
[11:07] {Threei}  PAH3.GE Reportrs June US sales 2,141 v 902 y/y
[11:08] {Threei}  what recession?
[11:08] {Threei}  people are buying Porsches
[11:08] {Les} Bernanke was right
[11:10] {dino} new lows coming
[11:10] {Threei}  feels like headfake to me
[11:10] {nemo} yeah
[11:10] {dino} hmm maybe not
[11:10] {Threei}  threatening new lows only to snap right back up
[11:10] {nemo} this is about the time we head into the meandering market
[11:11] {nemo} fcx broke to new lows though
[11:12] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .90 break
[11:12] {Threei}  if not losing .80 anymore
[11:12] {dino} sm l whr .30
[11:12] {dino} rimm sm l .15
[11:13] {nemo} I'm seeing that short dino, what's your stop?
[11:13] {dino} scanners hilighting lots of 52 week lows
[11:13] {dino} 33 cents
[11:13] {nemo} that may happen every day for awhile :)
[11:14] {dino} tsla drop
[11:14] {jfjf64} hmm
[11:14] {Threei}  you do know who is on TV, right?
[11:14] {nemo} Lady Gaga
[11:15] {jfjf64} brother
[11:15] {Les} Pamela Anderson
[11:15] {Threei}  umm... I don't even want to say "we wish"
[11:15] {nemo} no, she skeeves me
[11:15] {dino} mickey mouse
[11:15] {nemo} inr
[11:15] {Threei}  LVS is not a scalp IMO
[11:16] {Threei}  EU) ECB's Stark: Europe is not in a euro crisis, although there has been a loss of confidence in public finances
[11:17] {Threei}  my eventual target is about 21.30, with partials alng the way
[11:17] {jfjf64} vol coming in
[11:18] {Threei}  1:1
[11:18] {nemo} I scalped, thanks
[11:18] {Threei}  sure
[11:18] {jfjf64} half  out ty
[11:19] {Les} WHR out +.58 for 200.
[11:19] {dino} out whr .20,
[11:19] {jfjf64} wtg
[11:19] {dino} +.90
[11:19] {dino} tsla blood
[11:19] {dino} ty jf
[11:20] {Threei}  half out LVS here
[11:20] {Les} I screwed up today, but I didn't climb aboard TSLA at 30
[11:21] {ese} Is there anyone on this board who is comfortable at assessing volume?   Give me your take on NVDA      am thinking committing long money here
[11:21] {ese} Long term hold money......
[11:22] {nemo} how long term are you talking?
[11:22] {nemo} we don't use those words around here
[11:22] {ese} till about 23 bucks a share
[11:22] {nemo} when did you get in?
[11:22] {ese} i know......swear word
[11:22] {dino} wow, long term, ugh in this administration
[11:23] {ese} haven't gotten in.....
[11:23] {ese} been and out
[11:23] {ese} in and out
[11:23] {Les} half out 21 another quarter .10 ty vad
[11:23] {dino} safer imo
[11:23] {nemo} I don't see anything that says get in now
[11:23] {jfjf64} lvs
[11:23] {jfjf64} yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:23] {nemo} TNA C&H Vad
[11:24] {nemo} ?
[11:24] {nemo} oy big spread
[11:24] {Threei}  1/4 more out LVS
[11:24] {Threei}  .18
[11:24] {ese} true nemo....just startin to think about it.....at minimum would like to see daily 50ma flatten out
[11:24] {Threei}  offering last portion .29
[11:25] {Threei}  probably nemo...
[11:25] {Les} all out .24
[11:25] {Les} ty vad, I can breath again
[11:25] {nemo} yeah, it went
[11:25] {Threei}  Les... welcome, but...
[11:25] {jfjf64} all out .24
[11:25] {nemo} Vad, LVS could go to .40
[11:25] {jfjf64} that was wonderful
[11:25] {jfjf64} hat off to ya 3i
06[11:26] * Threei takes a bow
[11:26] {Threei}  headfake read was perfect
[11:26] {Threei}  [11:10] {Threei} threatening new lows only to snap right back up
[11:26] {Threei}  superimpose the time of the comment on SPY chart
[11:27] {jfjf64} 3i takes another  bow
[11:27] {Threei}  last target hit LVS
[11:27] {Threei}  merrily out
[11:27] {jfjf64} crowd  goes  crazy
[11:27] {dino} cedc hl l .50
[11:27] {jfjf64} omg
[11:27] {gregns} ty
[11:27] {nemo} quite the groupie there jf
[11:28] {nemo} here comes .40
[11:28] {nemo} next target .60
[11:28] {Threei}  as a groupie he has one huge disadvantage...
[11:28] {nemo} male
[11:28] {Threei}  yeah :)
[11:28] {jfjf64} been called worse
[11:28] {Les} tried the grey goose yesterday
[11:29] {Les} a vodka is a vodka is a vodka
[11:29] {nemo} your out of your f______ mind!
[11:29] {dino} out rimm .65, +.50
[11:29] {Threei}  did you freeze the hell out of it or what
[11:29] {jfjf64} les is a les is a les is ales
[11:30] {jfjf64} lol
[11:30] {nemo} speaking of Grey Goose...
[11:30] {Les} I'll stick the bas armagnac and single malt
[11:30] {jfjf64} i prefer stoli
[11:30] {Les} do you put vodka in fridge?
[11:30] {dino} got rinsed on a few today
[11:30] {jfjf64} freezer
[11:30] {Les} ?
[11:31] {dino} i keep mine in freezer
[11:31] {nemo} put the vodka in the freezer les
[11:31] {Les} ok will try it
[11:31] {jfjf64} fresh lemon
[11:31] {ese} huh????  vodka in the freezer
[11:31] {jfjf64} yummy
[11:31] {dptl} lol....:)
[11:31] {ese} are you talkin Lemon cello
[11:32] {Threei}  IMO... vodka needs freezer only when it's crappy vodka
[11:32] {ese} that goes in the frezzer
[11:32] {jfjf64} na
[11:32] {Threei}  good vodka - chill, don't freeze
[11:32] {jfjf64} lk lemon cello
[11:32] {Les} I just can't get the oily flavour of vodka. not when it is warm anyway
[11:32] {nemo} oily?
[11:32] {dino} ?
[11:32] {Les} will try fridge first then
[11:32] {nemo} Vad, LVS on it's way to .60
[11:32] {ese} ?
[11:32] {dino} dry taste imo
[11:33] {jfjf64} what does a russian no bout  vodka
[11:33] {Les} can't describe texture any other way
[11:33] {Threei}  no idea nemo, my read on it is over
[11:33] {nemo} I just had a shot, and oily...nahhh
[11:33] {dino} but i must admit, i prefer a good tequilla, such as cabo or petrone
[11:33] {ese} ouuuuuuuu.....dp and vad are gonna getcha for that one
[11:33] {jfjf64} we talkin vodka nemo
[11:33] {nemo} yep
[11:34] {jfjf64} when is anually company picnic 3i
[11:34] {nemo} saturday
[11:34] {Les} index's consolidating for another possible run
[11:35] {Les} both at vwap
[11:35] {nemo} here comes .60 Vad
[11:35] {Threei}  thi Sat, jf
[11:35] {jfjf64} ya called it nemo
[11:35] {nemo} gave me .59
[11:35] {jfjf64} how come i wasnt invited
[11:35] {nemo} oh well
[11:35] {nemo} because you are you jf
[11:36] {Threei}  I annnounced here in the room...
[11:36] {Threei}  kind of open invitation
[11:36] {Threei}  now, if you were female groupie of mine, I'd extened it to persional invitation
[11:36] {Les} Europe down hard at closing
[11:39] {nemo} private lessons 3i?
[11:39] {Threei}  made myself listen to the speech for 3 min
[11:39] {ese} interesting mrkt reversal
[11:39] {Threei}  as fra as I can tell, case is being made for some variation od amnesty
[11:39] {Threei}  of
[11:39] {jfjf64} lvs
[11:40] {nemo} hit my .60 :)
[11:44] {dino} cedc to .74
[11:44] {Les} so vad, I had great trouble getting entry onto the opening trades
[11:44] {Threei}  how did you send orders?
[11:44] {Les} setting a limit of the break was not working for me
[11:44] {Les} limit
[11:45] {Threei}  limit at what price and what route used?
[11:45] {nemo} was your break, right at the break?
[11:45] {Les} nasdaq
[11:45] {Les} the usual price
[11:45] {dino} to .84
[11:45] {Les} +.01
[11:45] {Threei}  if the call was 20 break, what was yor limit price?
[11:45] {Les} .21
[11:45] {nemo} that's the problem
[11:45] {Threei}  1 cent is rarely enough
[11:46] {Les} saw that todayy
[11:46] {dino} make it .89, cedc
[11:46] {Threei}  give it 2-3 unless all you go for is 5 cents scalp
[11:46] {Threei}  if there are shares at +.01 you'll get them
[11:47] {Les} do we reduce size when chasing 2 - 3 cents?
[11:47] {Les} cause 1:1 is now significantly smaller
[11:47] {Threei}  depends on your risk tolerance
[11:47] {dino} to .95
[11:47] {Les} but stop much larger
[11:48] {Les} ok
[11:48] {Threei}  significantly smaller and much larger is discretionary... to me, couple cents don't change things much
[11:48] {Threei}  again, unless I go for scalp type I
[11:49] {Threei}  then yes, % change is too large
[11:49] {dino} out cedc slippage ave .92, +.42, puts me in the black after horrible start
[11:49] {Threei}  wtg dino
[11:50] {dino} lol, lucky
[11:50] {dino} ctrp to flat
[11:51] {Threei}  hey guys
[11:51] {Threei}  https://caratrading.com/content/cara-conference-2010-freeport
[11:51] {Threei}  you'll find me in there
[11:51] {Threei}  (not sure you want to but...)
[11:54] {larisa} does not work for me
[11:56] {dino} out ctrp .31, +.20
[12:01] {dptl} kss .40short?
[12:02] {nemo} amazing how down the market is with the walloping the $ took
[12:02] {Les} $POG too. bizarre
[12:05] {Threei}  not sure dp
[12:05] {dptl} ok
[12:09] {hawk} BP round trippin
[12:16] {Les} vad if STT returns to trigger, long entry?
[12:17] {Les} or this will fizzle out
[12:17] {Threei}  really can't tell
[12:18] {Threei}  look how market loast drive
[12:18] {Threei}  no rhythm
[12:18] {Threei}  this is that jellyfish time, when things drift aimlessly
[12:18] {Threei}  and you are bound to get stopped or profit at random
[12:18] {Les} yeh
[12:19] {Threei}  you dug yourself out of the hole,
[12:19] {Threei}  trust me:
[12:20] {Threei}  push now for more, and you will find yourself right back in it
[12:20] {Threei}  then you'll push again to dig out again, and will deepen it to twice the depth
[12:20] {nemo}  yeah, but then we can go fill the hole in with him in it
[12:21] {Les} hmmm
[12:22] {dino} but as a vampire it is no problem
[12:22] {nemo} not sure about that dino
[12:22] {dino} we sleep in the dirt
[12:22] {Threei}  well, as far as I know nemo, he will stand on the grave with wooden stake in hand
[12:22] {Threei}  waiting for resurrection
[12:23] {dino} hmmmm, tinking buffey the vampire slayer
[12:23] {Threei}  nemo is nowhere that pretty
[12:23] {dino} of course not, was hoping for buffey
[12:24] {Les} I was thinking uma thurman
[12:24] {Les} smashing her way out of grave in Kill Bill
[12:24] {dino} kill bill
[12:24] {Threei}  and all y'all got instead was another president TV appearance
[12:24] {Threei}  GR) Reportedly Greek labor union calls for another 24 hour strike on July 8
[12:25] {Les} god bless em. guaranteed to ruin the monetary union and persuade military to take power again
[12:28] {hawk} DNDN worth watching imo
[12:29] {nemo} alright, it's after lunch I can....
[12:29] {nemo} oh, forgot...already did
[12:30] {Les} way ahead of ya
[12:32] {Threei}  Mazda: May raise vehicle prices and cut incentives in Europe in order to offset decline in EUR - Nikkei news
[12:34] {ese} L nvda .19
[12:34] {Les} DNDN testing last MA resistance before clear sky to 30.40
[12:34] {dino} sm l itri .60
[12:34] {ese} swing trade....not long term
[12:35] {dino} gs spike
[12:37] {Les} l dndn .23 small
[12:38] {Threei}  did that video work\ for you guys?
[12:38] {Les} yeh cool beans
[12:39] {hawk} yes, saw you shaking your fist at your onlookers ;)
[12:39] {Les} that was nemo
[12:39] {nemo} wasn't there
[12:40] {Les} well you don't have to spoil the amusing visual
[12:40] {Threei}  that's my normal method of teaching hawk, light mode - meaning, no 2x4
[12:41] {hawk} lol, no army boots either?
[12:41] {Threei}  yup... very light
[12:41] {Threei}  tropics, ya know...
[12:41] {Threei}  relxed
[12:41] {Les} out dndn +.26
[12:41] {nemo} so much for meandering
[12:42] {Les} like to see dndn pullback
[12:43] {dino} hmmm
[12:44] {Les} whr - sick price movement
[12:44] {dino} yeah, pulp type
[12:44] {ese} out nvda .34
[12:45] {ese} +.15
[12:45] {dino} out itri .34, +.74
[12:45] {ese} moderate pos 3k......don't trust the mrkt
[12:46] {ese} hey dino.......golf?    do you use a range finder...bushnell perhaps
[12:46] {dino} no, just my eyes and markers
[12:47] {ese} yes same here....couple of the guys i golf with sat morning do....they drive me nuts
[12:47] {dino} i couldn't putt last night, bunch of 3 putts
[12:48] {ese} have eliminated that the last 3 games or so......it'll come back though
[12:48] {dino} it should, my putting was better than usual this year
[12:49] {dino} shot a 7 over on sunday
[12:49] {dino} normally about 12
[12:55] {Les} what's the bet? rally and green into close?
[12:56] {Threei}  this must be the most bizarre thing I've read today:
[12:56] {Threei}  Finland makes broadband access a human right
[12:57] {dino} green
[12:57] {hawk} free speech, bear arms, and...broadband access, hmmm
[12:57] {Les} prisoners must be happy to have right to cable tv...
[12:58] {dino} what do bear arms have to do w/it?
[12:58] {hawk} lol, the right to arm bears
[12:58] {nemo} hawk...it's finland
[12:59] {Les} small long dndn .53 stop below .40
[13:05] {Les} sold +.09 fearful of sudden drop here
[13:13] {Threei}  Toshiba Corporation Planning to open a factory in US for manufacturing electric vehicle motors for Ford
[13:17] {Threei}  US) IEA Chief: If US drilling ban lasts longer than six months, idle rigs should be moved to other countries to discover oil
[13:18] {Les} lol can u take a hint Obama?
[13:18] {Threei}  how come we haven't heard of flying bans after plane crash
[13:18] {Les} cause that'd pi&& off the electorate
[13:19] {Les} Obama can play tough guy with bad people associated with Republican administration
[13:20] {Threei}  if I hear once again "it's all inherited problem"...
[13:21] {Les} that'll be marked on Obama tombstone
[13:22] {Les} obama's
[13:22] {Threei}  after all, you sold yourself as "I know what to do" guy, not "Things are screwed up so badly, no one can do anything"
[13:23] {Threei}  somehow you didn't try to run on this later platform
[13:23] {Les} no, that's the reelection platform
[13:25] {dino} blame game, him and his demo legislators
[13:26] {Les} they'll keep playing it as the world burns. some fascist will come along, take power and blame democracy
[13:27] {Threei}  that's hw these things usually go
[13:28] {Les} just finished watching BBC world at war and French WW2 series Apocolypse
[13:28] {Les} I see no reason we cannot repeat this experience on at least limited scale
[13:28] {Les} if govts. continue as is
[13:30] {dino} things get bad enough yes
[13:30] {ese} have yet to see that bbc series but definately want to
[13:31] {Les} given that bbc series is made in 70's is amazing
[13:31] {Les} the french series is relatively new - has incredible video footage of the war
[13:31] {ese} hmmmmm......you just rent that at a video store
[13:31] {Les} New York filmed at night through periscope of German submarine
[13:32] {ese} wow
[13:32] {Les} Japanese naval airman commiting suicide with grenade
[13:32] {Les} the Yalta agreement
[13:33] {jfjf64} lvs fillin gap
[13:35] {dino} itri sm l .02
[13:37] {Les} http://miburl.com/9ZaNgp
[13:37] {Les} it's available stateside and amazing to watch
[13:37] {nemo} too funny....http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/07/the-100-greatest-movie-insults-of-all-time/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBigPicture+%28The+Big+Picture%29
[13:37] {Les} lot of Russian footage, a good look at stalin during the war. SOB he was
[13:46] {Threei}  mass murderer
[13:51] {dino} y
[13:53] {Threei}  there is a great book that will help understand what he was, why and how his mind functioned, Les
[13:53] {Threei}  written by Edward Radzinsky
[13:53] {Threei}  titled uninventviely: Stalin
[13:53] {Threei}  page-thruner too
[13:54] {Threei}  can't put it down
[13:55] {Les} can only see title "stalin and stalinism", not just "stalin"
[13:55] {Threei}  http://www.amazon.com/Stalin-Edvard-Radzinsky/dp/0553474030
[13:56] {Threei}  http://www.amazon.com/Stalin-depth-Biography-Explosive-Documents/dp/0385479549/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278006966&sr=1-2
[13:59] {Les} bought a 2nd hand copy thanks.
[13:59] {Threei}  you'll love it
[14:03] {nemo} BP
[14:04] {ese} L stx .36
[14:04] {ese} agressive entry
[14:07] {nemo} bp .28 break Vad?
[14:07] {Threei}  I doubt it
[14:07] {nemo} frickin pessimist
[14:08] {Threei}  lol
[14:08] {nemo} ;)
[14:08] {Threei}  be back in 20... I need to ponder that
[14:08] {nemo} hehehehehe
[14:08] {Threei}  possible review my whole life attitude
[14:08] {nemo} why?
[14:08] {Threei}  shouldn't be longer than 20 min
[14:08] {nemo} it got you this far....
[14:09] {Threei}  that's OK, I do it every few days
[14:09] {nemo} invalimudated
[14:09] {nemo} nevermind
[14:09] {nemo} you're attitude was right
[14:10] {nemo} support at 29 on BP
[14:10] {Les} lvs 22
[14:11] {nemo} How about BIDU break of .50 has to hold .40?
[14:11] {nemo} nevermind, dripped that
[14:11] {nemo} dropped
[14:14] {nemo} Hey Vad...we shoulda' faded that BP call :)
[14:14] {nemo} oh and of course BIDU rinsed the invalidation
[14:15] {nemo} I'm starting to feel like Les.
[14:15] {nemo} Oh...where's my gun
[14:16] {Les} pulled out an episode of world of war. Marine pacific campaign
[14:16] {ese} out stx .45
[14:16] {nemo} World at War?
[14:16] {ese} +.09
[14:17] {nemo} I remember when that was originally released in the 70's
[14:17] {ese} nice day....patience pays off
[14:17] {Les} yeh that too.
[14:17] {Les} well you really are old nemo
[14:17] {nemo} arguably
[14:18] {ese} I mean......not patience....she didn't give me any money......ahhhhhh
[14:19] {ese} it was the mrkt......i swear.......
[14:19] {gregns} thks ese for that stx
[14:19] {ese} welcome
[14:20] {gregns} thank you to all for taking the time to share their trades !
[14:20] {ese} that sounded like vad......."welcome"
[14:20] {hawk} lol, i thought that too ese
[14:21] {ese} wha da ya think........i could be vad maybe.....hmmmmmmmm
06[14:21] * nemo slaps ese around a bit with a large mirror
[14:21] {nemo} I think not
[14:21] {gregns} naw you spell too well
[14:22] {dino} lol
[14:23] {ese} sheeeeesh......everyones a critic
[14:24] {nemo} why don't you go spank a few skins :)
[14:25] {ese} well.........ok
[14:26] {nemo} :)
[14:26] {dino} whr channel, around .00-.40
[14:26] {nemo} you'll have more time to practice now that school is out
[14:29] {Les} resistance is .46 dino support just under 85. a market break either way...
[14:32] {Threei}  back
[14:32] {nemo} So....
[14:32] {nemo} have you changed your outlook?
[14:33] {Threei}  twice
[14:33] {Threei}  so I am back where I started
[14:33] {nemo} guess that's progress
[14:33] {Threei}  wasted time, but enjoyed the process
[14:33] {nemo} I'll have a shot for you
[14:35] {Threei}  RMBS Ticking higher on renewed takeover chatter (timing uncertain) (17.62, +0.10, 0.57%)
[14:41] {dino} whr sm l .04
[14:43] {dino} no good  stopped
[14:45] {ese} you notice i tried to pass myself off a s you vad with my "welcome" comment.......the board was onto me right away.....couldn't get away with it
[14:46] {Threei}  you may look more credible if spell it as velkome
[14:46] {ese} rats......your right
[14:46] {Threei}  kredible too...
[14:46] {ese} what an amateur error
[14:51] {dptl} ccl short?
[14:52] {Threei}  I think so
[14:52] {dptl} .98?
[14:52] {Threei}  just 31 break
[14:52] {Threei}  if market continues down and if stays under .10
[14:52] {dptl} ok ty
[14:55] {dino} sm l whr .62
[15:03] {dino} out whr .22,
[15:03] {dino} +.60
[15:03] {hawk} nice
[15:05] {dino} ty
[15:05] {Les} HAL read vad?
[15:06] {Les} .06 long if holding 25?
[15:06] {Threei}  mess
[15:06] {Les} ok
[15:09] {nemo} spy probably tests the morning highs at 103.50
[15:09] {dino} took awhile but out itri .53, +.51
[15:10] {Les} PG .50 b/d if holding .60?
[15:10] {Threei}  rather yes
[15:19] {dptl} s pg .49
[15:20] {nemo} or go long on break above stop
[15:28] {Threei}  Ok guys, with your kjind permission I'll leave for Canada day party
[15:28] {Threei}  my view is,
[15:28] {hawk} take off eh
[15:28] {nemo} yeah...our permission...right
[15:28] {nemo} just go...skip the excuses
[15:28] {Threei}  market will do nothing, with slight negative bias till close
[15:28] {nemo} have a nice day
[15:28] {nemo} drink like fish
[15:29] {Les} pg covered flat
[15:29] {Threei}  hacve a good evening, see ou tomorrow
[15:29] {Les} yeh market pi&&ing me off. c u's tomorrow
[15:30] {dino} cya
[15:30] {dino} i feel one more good trade coming

Friday, June 18, 2010

Fri Jun 18 2010

Two very nice charts to sustain your educational needs over the weekend. One is "setup within setup", I attach the chart with annotations and please read the explanations in the log starting from 10:23 to 10:38.

Another is short off the double top setup, using bounce into resistance. Read comments from 11:21.



Session Time: Fri Jun 18 00:00:00 2010
[08:32] {Threei}  British Petroleum plc Moody's downgrades rating to A2 from AA2; all ratings remain on review
[08:32] {Threei}  - This assessment reflects a substantial upward revision of the estimated size of the leak, the continued failure to bring the leaking Macondo well under control, and the mounting costs and claims for damages. Moody's believes that costs for containment, clean-up, litigation and fines are likely to be higher than the rating agency had previously expected in view of the widespread and continuing physical and economic damage.
[08:32] {Threei}  XAU/USD Spot Gold Spot gold hits fresh all-time highs above $1,255/oz
[08:45] {hawk} good morning
[08:51] {Threei}  hawk :)
[08:56] {dptl} good morning
[08:57] {bellowsbunch} gm
[08:57] {Threei}  dp, bellow :)
[08:58] {Threei}  Russia has been the most vocal of the BRIC nations on the desire to create/implement a new reserve currency. On Sept 18th 2009. Russian PM Putin commented that there was a need for several reserve currencies. Back on March 2009 ahead of the April G20 Summit in London Kremlin Aide Dvorkovich noted that Russia supported the ruble and yuan as new reserve currencies In early June 2009 on CNBC television Russian President Medvedev suggested that there should be a new basket of strong regional currencies to replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency
[09:02] {hawk} Vad, do you know if you can link the quote board with  a chart in Laser so u could click on a symbol and the chart would change?
[09:03] {Threei}  I don't use quote board, not sure
[09:03] {Threei}  try
[09:03] {dptl} go window set link
[09:03] {Threei}  link it the usual way and see if it works
[09:04] {hawk} tried it, no workie
[09:04] {Threei}  dp, works for you?
[09:04] {dptl} yes
[09:04] {Threei}  hawk, he is all yours :)
[09:04] {dptl} you have to make new link
[09:05] {dptl} in the set link menu
[09:08] {hawk} hmm, still won't work, i'll mess with it a bit.  thanks dp
[09:09] {Threei}  you let him off the hook too easy hawk
[09:10] {Threei}  short of flying out and actually doing it, everything is fair game
[09:11] {hawk} lol, new link, Boardview: Hot with stock Chart.  Still won't work
[09:12] {dptl} are you using board view clasic?
[09:12] {hawk} yes
[09:13] {dptl} use board view plus....much easier to put symbols in and it works with linking to enything
[09:13] {hawk} ah, ok, trying
[09:13] {dptl} anything
[09:13] {Threei}  I like "enything"... makes me feel beter about my typing
[09:13] {dptl} :)
[09:13] {Threei}  I mean typein
[09:14] {Threei}  or tiepeinq
[09:14] {dptl} lol
[09:14] {Threei}  I'll stop it before Raven fainted
[09:16] {shorty} hello everyone
[09:16] {Threei}  shorty :)
[09:17] {ese} good morning.....
[09:17] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:18] {ese} once again from first hand experience.......i can whole heartedly reccomend buying a hot tub
[09:18] {ese} just got out......am relaxed and ready to go
[09:19] {shorty} is it one of those salt water hot tubs?
[09:20] {ese} nope....never heard of that shorty
[09:21] {hawk} got it dp, thanks!
[09:21] {dino} gm all
[09:21] {larisa} gm :)
[09:21] {RonS} gm all
[09:21] {Threei}  dino, larisa :)
[09:21] {Threei}  ron :)
[09:22] {Threei}  told youi hawk, don't let him off the hook that easy :)
[09:22] {dptl} :)
[09:22] {hawk} :)
[09:22] {shorty} I heard they are less maintenance.  I would love to have a hot tub.
[09:27] {lasertrev} morning
[09:27] {Threei}  trev :)
[09:27] {ese} salt water less maintenance.......hmmmmmmmm
[09:28] {ese} don't know about that one
[09:29] {Threei}  keeping ana eye on GLD, among other things
[09:29] {Threei}  other things being usual suspects
[09:29] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:30] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:31] {shorty} I guess I can't comment on that ese.  But man that would be nice to step into a hot tub in the morning regardless if it's salt water or not.
[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  GLD  123 break if holding above .90
[09:31] {Threei}  I'd prefer deeper pullback
[09:31] {Threei}  but ready to try this
[09:32] {Threei}  BP sharp selling
[09:33] {Threei}  AA Russia to increase aluminum purchases (11.23, +0.05, 0.45%)
[09:35] {jfjf64} amln .38 break
[09:35] {Threei}  GLD, no go
[09:37] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .85 break if stays above .75
[09:38] {Threei}  invalidated but not off radar
[09:39] {Les} morning
[09:39] {Threei} Long Setup:  BP  .45 half lot
[09:41] {Threei}  stop under .30
[09:42] {Threei} Short Setup: WFC  .85 break
[09:44] {Threei}  .50 is critical fot BP
[09:45] {Threei}  prolonged battle
[09:45] {Les} gld had its pullback. breakout ok here?
[09:46] {Threei}  probably...
[09:46] {Threei}  BP no go
[09:47] {Threei}  whole week is so annoying
[09:47] {jfjf64} loosers  out  of  way
[09:48] {Les} wfc still good to go stopwise?
[09:49] {Threei}  .96 is resistance so far
[09:49] {Threei}  sure
[09:50] {Threei}  I'd prefer normal stop placement, above 28
[09:50] {Les} sure
[09:51] {Threei}  HAUP Strength being attributed to BBY carrying their products in July (2.70, +0.22, 8.84%) (related BBY )
[09:54] {Threei}  doesn't feel like there is any direction
[09:55] {nemo} opex day...mmmmhhhh....vodka.....opex day....vodka...tough call
[09:56] {jfjf64} how  did  celtics  blow  that  gm
[09:56] {Les} sounds good nemo. whisky it is.
[09:56] {Les} not for you though. too early
[09:57] {nemo} no Kendrick Perkins=no rebounding, no Ray Allen, no offensive diversity
[09:57] {shorty} Ahhh Les, whiskey is a fine beverage.
[09:57] {nemo} nevermind Ron Artest having an offensive rocket shot
[09:57] {Threei}  if charts are any indication, low volume bounce is over,
[09:57] {jfjf64} vxx .50 break
[09:57] {Threei}  down from here
[09:58] {jfjf64} hold .45
[09:58] {Threei}  SPY 111.40 break is needed to send things down screaming
[09:59] {Threei}  let's tighten things up a bit, WFC stop to above .95
[10:00] {Threei}  protect ourselves against double bottom scenario
[10:08] {Threei}  third test of the low
[10:08] {Threei}  new low
[10:08] {Threei}  come on WFC, time to roll over and die
[10:08] {Threei}  good boy
[10:09] {Les} I scalped .79. letting it go
[10:11] {Threei}  this .75 area was somewhat fuzzy from decision-making point of view,
[10:12] {Threei}  it was about 1:1 if take the resistance literally
[10:12] {Threei}  butr WFC is one of the weakest among financials, weaker than FAS
[10:12] {Threei}  but market can't define direction
[10:12] {Threei}  so, kind of discretionary
[10:12] {RonS} wanted .73...screwed the pooch for .01...waiting
[10:13] {Threei}  hard to tell
[10:13] {Threei}  FAS is one of the weakest sectors, and WFC is one of the weakest in it
[10:13] {Threei}  so... both ways have right to exist
[10:14] {Threei}  who wins, patient ones or scalpers, remains to be seen
[10:15] {RonS} wfc on the HFT fave list...they run it up and down for penny scalps
[10:16] {dino} cstr?
[10:17] {Threei}  no news
[10:17] {nemo} little late to the party on that one dino
[10:17] {nemo} look for consolidation?
[10:19] {Threei}  guess what
[10:19] {Threei}  scalpers win
[10:20] {Les} yeh give me .05 and get me out. one of those days again...
[10:21] {ese} not doing much been following uaua but thats about it
[10:21] {Threei}  5 points range S&P
[10:21] {Les} was mightily impressed by .80 rally on FAS et al. yesterday at close
[10:23] {Threei}  look at LVS 1 min
[10:23] {Threei}  C&H in the making,
[10:23] {Threei}  cup has formed with rim .85
[10:23] {Les} aggressive entry?
[10:24] {Threei}  handle is slightly over half complete
[10:24] {Threei}  I'd observe a little bit more
[10:25] {Threei}  maybe like this if you want to be aggressive:
[10:25] {Threei}  mini-range .65 - .75 within that bigger formation
[10:25] {Threei}  .75 break entry
[10:25] {Threei}  stop underr .65,
[10:25] {Threei}  and count on future .85 break
[10:25] {jfjf64} i  lk
[10:25] {Threei}  with half out into the spike
[10:25] {Threei}  and ride the rest
[10:26] {Threei}  as with all aggressive entries odds of working are less, reward if works is much bigger
[10:28] {Threei}  RU) Russian official reportedly says Russia plans RUB72B of govt asset sales in 2010; says no need at this point to privatize Gazprom, Rosneft, or Russia Rail
[10:29] {Threei}  isn't it funny that for them privatization of huge corporations is simply a matter of "need or no need at this point"
[10:29] {Les} was gonna ask does this mean russia is out of money too?
[10:29] {nemo} The Tsar does what he wants-Putin
[10:31] {Threei}  1:1 is close... will we break or won't we
[10:31] {Les} half out
[10:32] {Threei}  {LVS} we so will
[10:32] {Threei}  half out .88
[10:32] {Threei}  follwoing the plan to the letter
[10:32] {Les} stop b/e?
[10:32] {Threei}  taking advantage of aggressive entry by securing profit and cutting down on risk
[10:33] {Threei}  under .75 or under .70, both are reasonable and deopend on personal preferences
[10:33] {shorty} Thanks Threei.  THat was fun.
[10:34] {Threei}  very clean read, and interesting setup
[10:34] {Threei}  I like this kind of things, mini-setup within bigger one
[10:34] {Threei}  bigger one provides general read and idea of the trade, mini-one provided particular entry and allows better risk management
[10:34] {shorty} I took at .76 with stop to .65 exit .88
[10:35] {Threei}  now, look at what you did from this point of view:
[10:35] {Threei}  "standard" players took .85 break
[10:35] {Threei}  with at least 15 cents risk
[10:35] {Threei}  and got 3 cents reward for that so far, ednuring pullback now
[10:36] {Threei}  by structuring trade as we did, you essentially tok a role of smart money
[10:36] {Threei}  being in in advance, foreseeing the setup crowd was countin on,
[10:36] {Threei}  selling to the crowd as it rushed in
[10:36] {Threei}  having 10 cents risk, less than theirs,
[10:37] {Threei}  having 12 cents reward while they were just entring
[10:37] {Les} 1/4 .90
[10:37] {Threei}  1:2
[10:37] {Threei}  1/4 more our .94
[10:37] {Threei}  they don't even have 1:1 yet
[10:37] {jfjf64} look  rig
[10:38] {shorty} A beautiful trade that was.
[10:38] {Threei}  this is the most pleasant part of thw whole thing - being smart money, being one step ahead
[10:38] {hawk}  GLD shining
[10:38] {Threei}  took that 123 break?
[10:38] {hawk} yep, .02
[10:38] {Threei}  :)
[10:39] {ese} L gmcr 1/2 lot .99
[10:39] {Les} all out .99
[10:39] {Les} ty
[10:39] {Threei}  welcome
[10:39] {Les} definitely back in black now
[10:40] {dino} cstr hl l .75
[10:40] {Threei}  if not making up for everything monetary, this one is very satisfactory morally, lol
[10:40] {nemo} morals?
[10:40] {nemo} Vad...morals...gag
[10:40] {Threei}  oh, let me pretened I have any for a second, will ya
[10:40] {shorty} lol nemo
[10:46] {shorty}  STX Threei?  c/h
[10:46] {shorty} It's not a fast mover
[10:46] {Threei}  chart formation wise yes, but it's so narrow
[10:47] {shorty} LVS moves that much in 5 min
[10:47] {Threei}  unless you are going for scalp type I, nothing to bother for
[10:47] {dino} rino sm l .54
[10:47] {shorty} ese type of scalp
[10:48] {ese} which one shorty?
[10:48] {ese} I'm watching paint dry with gmcr
[10:48] {shorty} STX, need a lot of shares.
[10:49] {shorty} It's like watching paint dry too
[10:50] {shorty} You need a waterproof keyboard ese and trade from your hot tub.
[10:50] {Threei}  also protects against drooling during the nap
[10:50] {shorty} lol
[10:50] {ese} indeed
[10:50] {hawk} the wrinkly fingers get in the way
[10:50] {Threei}  fingers??
[10:50] {RonS} dino thx cstr +.53
[10:50] {dino} gj, yw
[10:50] {hawk} from being in the hot tub too long
[10:50] {Threei}  you mean people type with something other than elbows??
[10:51] {dino} nose wad
[10:51] {Threei}  lord... maybe that explains my typing... elbows and knees m8ight not be optimal...
[10:52] {nemo} rig coming into support at .25, missed
[10:52] {dino} out cstr .340, +.65
[10:53] {hawk} nice
[10:53] {dino} out .40, fat fingers
[10:53] {dino} ty
[10:56] {nemo} market going for another leg up?
[10:56] {ese} out gmcr .09 +.10
[10:57] {ese} out on the spike.....just keepin the skills up
[10:58] {RonS} dino, check out iflg...big ranges...
[10:58] {RonS} gj ese
[10:59] {shorty} quick scalp BP .10
[10:59] {Threei}  on what side shorty?
[10:59] {shorty} .04 break covered .94
[10:59] {Threei}  ok
[10:59] {Threei}  good one
[11:00] {shorty} t&s showed weaknedd
[11:00] {Threei}  was concerned you might succumb to the catching falling knives
[11:00] {ese} tks ron
[11:00] {shorty} I still do Threei, and I hate it.
[11:00] {shorty} I have not done it in awhile though.
[11:00] {Threei}  simple recipe:
[11:01] {Threei}  just don't do it
[11:01] {shorty} lol
[11:01] {Threei}  seriously... you may find a lot of people all over the net selling you very complicated and very involved ways to bring up this and that in yourself,
[11:01] {Threei}  but simple truth is,
[11:02] {Threei}  as soon as you get the big picture down,
[11:02] {Threei}  start understanding what market is and what your place in it is,
[11:02] {Threei}  you can simple do or stop doing this or that
[11:02] {Threei}  (CH) White House: A market based FX rate in China would be better for the worldwide economy; Govt will update currency report after G-20 summit
[11:02] {Threei}  - The US Treasury's semi annual currency report was delayed in early June chiefly because Chinese President Hu was making a state visit to the US at that time.
[11:02] {Threei}  - Note: Historically it is not uncommon for the Treasury to miss the deadline for publishing the currency report.
[11:04] {Threei}  I understand their logic about china currency,
[11:04] {Threei}  my concern though is:
[11:04] {Threei}  the ourtvomes of this move are so deep and wideand all-encompassing,
[11:05] {Threei}  I simply can't trust these folks to calculate them even roughly
[11:05] {dino} sm s veco .85
[11:06] {dino} bstop is .21
[11:07] {ese} i'm with ya dino sm .86
[11:08] {ese} s also
[11:08] {dino} ok
[11:08] {dino} v hl l .90
[11:13] {dino} v stopped -.11
[11:16] {ese} veco stop to .break even
[11:17] {ese} .69 cover
[11:17] {dino} .55 support area imo
[11:17] {ese} good enough.....tks dino
[11:17] {dino} need to break it
[11:17] {dino} :D
[11:18] {ese} good luck with the rest of it
[11:20] {dino} bstop to .51
[11:21] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .90 break if stays under 27
[11:22] {ese} nice........classic dino
[11:22] {dino} cov 50, +.35
[11:22] {ese} as the british would say paaaaaaaa fect
[11:23] {dino} ty
[11:23] {ese} sure is hard to find stuff these days
[11:24] {Threei}  LVS, let's try aggressively
[11:24] {Threei}  with stop above 27.10
[11:24] {Threei}  double top play
[11:25] {Threei}  let it go over 27 and short recross
[11:25] {Threei}  or if market drops, short .97
[11:28] {Threei}  cover half here or take scalp
[11:28] {Threei}  personal choice
[11:29] {Threei}  stop for the lanace above 27
[11:30] {dino} gifi
[11:31] {shorty} missed LVS short....darn
[11:33] {dino} gifi sm s .27
[11:39] {RonS} apc...hearing bp says partners not involved w/ 20 bil fund
[11:40] {dino} gifi stopped -.30
[11:41] {Threei}  shorty, if took second chance, partial out here
[11:41] {Threei}  who is holding balance, try to bid closer to .80
[11:42] {RonS} ..trying .82
[11:42] {Threei}  looks about right
[11:42] {shorty} no guts, watched it.
[11:44] {Threei}  no gurts for 2-3 cents stop?
[11:44] {Threei}  man, you need to rethink your risk tolerance :)
[11:45] {shorty} lol....godd point
[11:45] {shorty} *good
[11:45] {RonS} pussed out...+10  lvs thxs
[11:46] {RonS} apc, see a setup 3i?
[11:46] {Threei}  well
[11:46] {Threei}  bounce from about 20 cents lower
[11:47] {shorty} I saw it as 3 cent risk, but if it would have past my stop, It probably would have turned into a 10 cent risk......working on that Threei.  I know, it's bad.
[11:47] {Threei}  about here, Ron, .70 - .80
[11:47] {Threei}  too volatile to tell more precisely
[11:48] {Threei}  10, no shorty, LVS is not that volatile
[11:48] {Threei}  can do couple cents slippage, not 10
[11:48] {Threei}  ok Ron, hunt from here
[11:49] {Threei}  stop under .50
[11:49] {Threei}  exact entry is all but impossible to call
[11:49] {shorty} oh...ty
[11:51] {RonS} apc sm l .55
[11:56] {Threei}  btw shorty
[11:56] {Threei}  if LVS comes to 27 third time, do not short it anymore
[11:57] {shorty} ok..thanks
[11:57] {Threei}  drwa the line from the second top 11:08 and lower highs after that, you'll see why
[11:57] {Threei}  draw
[11:58] {Threei}  sorry, more precisely:
[11:58] {Threei}  start the line from first top, 10"58
[11:58] {shorty} past res from that line
[11:58] {RonS} out apc -.20
[11:59] {Threei}  Ron, didn't want to distract you while you were in trade,
[11:59] {Threei}  when a volatile stock comes this close to important support as APC did to .50,
[12:00] {Threei}  don't buy it outright,
[12:00] {Threei}  let it break the support, dive, establish low, then recross it for an entry
[12:00] {RonS} got it
[12:00] {Threei}  There is one exception to it,
[12:00] {Threei}  the case where it drops into such support very sharply
[12:01] {Threei}  then the chance of bounce off it is high,
[12:01] {Threei}  but when it comes close to support, hesitates, pauses, ranges a little,
[12:01] {Threei}  odds are it will break support
[12:01] {RonS} i thought this had that chance but it ran inot the noon hour and the vol was not there
[12:01] {Threei}  shake out premature buyers
[12:02] {Threei}  then recover
[12:02] {Threei}  you can see that period of hesitation above the support
[12:02] {Threei}  that was luring in,
[12:03] {Threei}  tempting buyers, collecting them,
[12:03] {RonS} yes...so .60 break next entry?
[12:03] {Threei}  then killing them by losing spport, and as they rushed for exit, bottom fell out
[12:03] {Threei}  depends on where it establishes support
[12:03] {Threei}  I would porefer .50
[12:04] {Threei}  it has more significance
[12:04] {Threei}  but the stock is so volatile that we are talking about fuzzy zones rather than exact numbers
[12:05] {Threei}  in any case, use whole thing as illustration for understanding of how these psychological things work
[12:05] {Threei}  shaping up the chart,
[12:05] {Threei}  provoking action, faking out etc
[12:05] {Threei}  underlying motive is the same: what is exceedingly obvious is usually wrong
[12:06] {Threei}  and real action starts after those who went for obvious are gotten rid of
[12:07] {dino} hl s gifi .68
[12:10] {Threei}  see the continuation of the logic Ron?
[12:10] {Threei}  granted, it was hard to apply on this particular one because of its extreme volatility, but it will work for you many times over on more "normal" stock
[12:10] {Threei}  stocks
[12:11] {RonS} yes
[12:11] {Threei}  last LVS trade is not resolved still for the second half
[12:12] {Threei}  speaking of these patterns, noticed how well LVS follows most of them?
[12:12] {Threei}  our two winning trades yesterday closer to end of day on it, worked like charm,
[12:12] {Threei}  this long previouslt for C&H,
[12:12] {Threei}  this short
[12:13] {Threei}  APC, .50 buyer on recross would be exiting here now
[12:14] {Threei}  heck, even .60 one would
[12:14] {hawk} just got out from .57, thx for the mention Ron
[12:15] {hawk} small
[12:15] {RonS} gj hawk
06[12:15] * Threei slaps hawk around a bit with a large roll of cash
[12:15] {hawk} stopped on the first try
[12:21] {RonS} dino, whatcha think of cstr lod breakdown and re-cross l entry?
[12:22] {hawk} LVS
[12:22] {RonS} under 3i's criteria of sharp break and reversal...
[12:24] {dino} cov .38 gifi +.30
[12:24] {Threei}  1/4 more out at .82,
[12:24] {dino} cstr, hmm, feels lower
[12:25] {Threei}  last 1/4 out at .74
[12:25] {Threei}  if that's not a pure beauty
[12:26] {hawk} nice dino, and Vad
[12:26] {dino} i like the idea ron, watching it
[12:26] {dino} ty hawk
[12:28] {RonS} cstr feels like breakdown and i cannot short
[12:29] {dptl} leaving early.....have a good weekend all,see ya monday........Nemo,don't drink to much :)
[12:29] {Threei}  hah!
[12:29] {nemo} how much is too much???
[12:29] {Threei}  pottle-kettle
[12:29] {shorty} good weekend dptl
[12:30] {hawk} lol
[12:30] {Threei}  take care dp, have a good one :)
[12:30] {RonS} bye dp
[12:30] {Threei}  BP Chairman: First of the two relief wells has reached within the 200 ft of the leaking well; drilling speed must slow as they approach the well - TV interview
[12:32] {Threei}  you out LVS ron?
[12:32] {RonS} yep
[12:34] {RonS} hard for me to tell if these cstr bids are real
[12:34] {Threei}  you can't, until you see how they behave when sold into
[12:34] {dino} cya dp
[12:35] {Threei}  if they disappear at first sign of selling into them, they are fake
[12:35] {Threei}  if stay and absorb, real
[12:35] {dino} holds well imo
[12:35] {RonS} these bids are pimping the price
[12:35] {Threei}  meant to
[12:36] {RonS} man, was i a sucker for this action...for years...
[12:36] {Threei}  and then you saw the light?? :)
[12:36] {RonS} no, i heard you...and the light went off
[12:37] {Threei}  oops
[12:37] {Threei}  sorry
[12:37] {RonS} ..or on, i should say
[12:37] {Threei}  ah... not sorry then
[12:37] {Threei}  lol
[12:37] {Threei}  {nemo} as if you were sorry in any case
[12:38] {nemo} where the hell did you get that?
[12:38] {Threei}  read your mind
[12:38] {nemo} I'm busy
[12:38] {Threei}  so, yeah... in hell {G}
[12:40] {dino} hl l cstr .65
[12:42] {nemo} fcx might be bounce candidate here at 200 ma
[12:43] {hawk} news APC?
[12:43] {nemo} it's at the open here
[12:43] {nemo} fcx tht is
[12:44] {Threei}  yes
[12:44] {Threei}  (US) US Rep Markey (D): Other BP partner companies involved with the oil spill should pay into a relief fund
[12:44] {Threei}  - Feels Mitsui and Anadarko should help pay for costs associated with spill (BP has 65% stake in Gulf oil field where spill occurred; APC and Japan"s Mitsui are partners in the field )
[12:46] {hawk} thx vad
[12:54] {Threei}  nemo... good news
[12:54] {nemo} I can drink?
[12:54] {Threei}  world's progress depends on us
[12:54] {Threei}  look:
[12:54] {nemo} ?
[12:55] {Threei}  The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. '
[12:55] {Threei}  George Bernard Shaw
[12:55] {nemo} Yeah, but the underlying point, is you have to get rid of alot of people
[12:55] {Threei}  so?
[12:55] {nemo} I can't afford enough ammo
[12:56] {Threei}  it's easy
[12:56] {Threei}  hide in the bushes, shoot a little both directions, get out - they will finish it all by themselves shooting each other
[12:56] {nemo} wow...you bored?
[12:57] {Threei}  at least that's how I used to manoevre between mafia and corrupted police :)
[12:57] {Threei}  and yes, bored
[12:57] {dino} i froze cstr
[12:57] {Threei}  no clear trades
[12:57] {Threei}  lol dino
[12:58] {RonS} i am waiting for and .80 break up or a breakdown to .20
[13:01] {nemo} apc at the 200 again
[13:01] {nemo} got that trend line resistance going though
[13:02] {dino} there you go
[13:02] {RonS} got away from me...glad you are on the right side
[13:03] {dino} stop to .98
[13:06] {dino} veco back to range top
[13:06] {Threei}  be back in 20
[13:07] {dino} stop to .10
[13:07] {nemo} likely top around .30 dino
[13:08] {dino} running tight
[13:08] {dino} to .15
[13:08] {dino} to .20
[13:09] {dino} out .19 slip, +.54
[13:09] {RonS} veco shows 17% float short, 7.5 mil shares
[13:09] {RonS} gj dino
[13:09] {nemo} ok, I was off by .02
[13:09] {hawk} nice one dino, took it for +.22, thx
[13:09] {dino} about the only thing moving
[13:10] {dino} ty, gj
[13:14] {dino} good top call nemo
[13:14] {nemo} lucky
[13:15] {RonS} i thought nemo was taliking about veco...lol
[13:26] {Les} all is silent on the western front?
[13:27] {Les} ... as the tumbleweed rolls through the chat room
[13:29] {RonS} we've been ripping it up in a light tape Les
[13:29] {RonS} w/ opex, dicey from here imo
[13:32] {Threei}  back
[13:32] {Les} yeh I chose gardening instead of the tape. I can only drink so much whiskey...
[13:36] {shorty} I have a maintenance free lawn.  I get these beautiful yellow flowers that grow randomly on my lawn.
[13:37] {Threei}  (CA) Canada sends letter to G20 urging countries halve their deficits by 2013
[13:37] {Threei}  someone died and designated Canada a king of the world?
[13:37] {hawk} lol shorty
[13:41] {Les} well Australian PM has shown himself to be a dunce
[13:41] {Les} so Canada takes moral leadership...?
[13:41] {RonS} Oh Canadaaaaaa...
[13:41] {Les} no one likes Merkel anymore
[13:43] {RonS} ya know, this drilling moratorium really steams me.  I liken it to having a bloody nose, and sticking yourself in the eye to fix it.  Those people on the Gulf are being devastated by rampant stupidity.
[13:47] {Threei}  while Canada certainly handled whole situation much better than most, it's just doesn't look big/important enough on the world scene to play the role of "we will tell you how"
[13:47] {Threei}  (US) Reportedly Senate passes bill that delays medicare payment cut for doctors (as expected)
[13:50] {dino} ron, i'm w/you. plus the only reason we drill in those deep waters is because govt won't let us access land sites
[13:50] {nemo} or shallow water sites
[13:50] {Threei}  all of which are much safer
[13:51] {dino} i am in marcellus shale area, and they have just put a halt on all shale drilling, fear factor from this gulf accident, costing jobs here too
[13:52] {dino} it seems to me that i should be compensated if they do not allow the drilling
[13:52] {Les} ah right I remember your claims dino. so spillover effect everywhere in the US?
[13:52] {dino} yes
[13:53] {Les} dumbasses
[13:53] {nemo} you should feel at home with them Les
[13:53] {Les} let's see how US motorists likes $5 gallon petrol
[13:53] {nemo} sorry
[13:53] {Les} that was a low blow nemo
[13:53] {nemo} not really
[13:53] {shorty} lol
[13:53] {nemo} Can't help myself
[13:53] {Les} par for the course for you
[13:54] {dino} they are. not like we stop using gas and oil, just spending money overseas for it, costing usa jobs, trade deficit, money to unfriendly nations, etc. they do not think ot through
[13:54] {nemo} You serve 'em like that, gotta' hit them outta' the park
[13:54] {Les} fair enough
[13:54] {RonS} ...there is nothing about fear with this. the dem agenda is to skyrocket energy prices for the purpose of alt enrgy dreams and punishing everyone to get on the federal reservation.  'nuff said. i will stop.
[13:55] {Les} rig breaking its range
[13:55] {dino} yes, obamination is pushing his clueless agenda. just like his joke of nuclear free world. the guy just doesn't get it
[13:55] {nemo} 200 at about .20
[13:56] {Threei}  I am in the same cart as you Ron... that's how I see things
[13:56] {Threei}  I am also interested in LVS again
[13:56] {Les} starting to like RIG. once it busts the 200
[13:56] {Threei}  no clear setup yet, watching
[13:57] {RonS} ...guess rig addition to the swiss index might be swiss cheese
[13:57] {nemo} it might be a quick bounce
[13:57] {nemo} may be recross .30
[13:58] {nemo} offer at .29
[14:00] {Les} nearly 50% Ron
[14:01] {Les} oh you noticed it getting extraordinary permission to join the index.
[14:01] {nemo} apc break of .60?
[14:03] {Les} s RIG .23 hl stop .35
[14:04] {RonS} check out sun
[14:04] {nemo} wow, impressive
[14:04] {Les} cover +.10 rig
[14:04] {dino} gj
[14:05] {Les} on the way down IMO. looking for another setup
[14:07] {RonS} hal may be also...
[14:08] {ese} tired of lookin all....am outta here for the weekend........happy fathers day
[14:08] {Les} lol someone telephones me and rig craps itself
[14:08] {RonS} same to ya ese
[14:08] {ese} cya ron
[14:08] {dino} cya es
[14:08] {ese} dino
[14:08] {lasertrev} ese dcc
[14:10] {Threei}  take care ese
[14:11] {Les} s rig at .19 thought it was a bounce stopped .31
[14:12] {nemo} after being up so strong, why did you think it would continue to drop?
[14:13] {Les} .19 was MA resistance. but market spiked, so did it.
[14:13] {Les} back to the bottle
[14:19] {Les} vad wfc nearing 28
[14:19] {Les} daily looks like breakout potential but with this market...?
[14:21] {Threei}  yeah, questionable
[14:24] {Threei}  maybe if market makes a strong move up but that's a tall order
[14:26] {RonS} could imax go on a further run w/ Toy Story 3 out this weekend?
[14:29] {larisa} I will say yes so you do not feel lonely :)
[14:30] {RonS} The Lonely Guy...Steve Martin  :D
[14:33] {Threei}  I will say no so you two don't feel like talking in the middle of desert
[14:35] {RonS} cie news 3i?
[14:35] {Threei}  nothing fresh
[14:36] {Threei}  but it's involved in the whole Gulf thing
[14:36] {Threei}  somehow
[14:36] {Threei}  this is from June 1:
[14:37] {Threei}  Cobalt Energy Announces Force Majeure Notification on Gulf Drill Rig
[14:37] {Threei}  - Announced that it had invoked the force majeure provision under the drilling contract with Diamond Offshore Company for the Ocean Monarch drilling rig. This rig was moored and ready to begin drilling operations at the location of our North Platte #1 exploratory well on Garden Banks 959. The reason for invoking force majeure was the steps announced on May 27, 2010 by the US Government which suspended all drilling operations in the deepwaters of the Gulf of Mexico. Cobalt had obtained all necessary permits and insurance as required by law and regulation to commence drilling operations. Cobalt believes that the direct financial impact of triggering force majeure on the Ocean Monarch will result in a net expenditure to the company of apprx $15M.
[14:37] {Threei}  - Cobalt also confirms its intent to initiate drilling operations offshore Angola in Q4 2010 or Q1 2011
[14:37] {Les} yeh let's send everyone and everything to africa
[14:38] {dino} there go more jobs and money
[14:38] {Les} the moratorium will be lifted and all the rigs and personnel dispersed around the world
[14:39] {dino} and more unemployment in usa
[14:39] {Threei}  when you beat up on business under all possible angles, excuses and pretenses, no wonfer business starts moving away
[14:39] {Les} amazing how buying the break suxs right now. WFC 28
[14:39] {Threei}  told ya
[14:39] {Threei}  but di ya listen
[14:39] {Threei}  nooooo
[14:40] {Threei}  whole "people good, companies bad", dino
[14:40] {Threei}  idiotic ideology of ideologic idiots
[14:42] {dino} living it w/you. just unbelievable how stupid they are. without business there aren't any jobs
[14:43] {RonS} depedent people and their guvmint masters good, independent thinking and doing bad.
[14:44] {Les} hey hey hey Vad
[14:44] {Les} you know what assuming makes out of us hey!
[14:44] {Les} I didn't buy the break
[14:45] {Les} I might have, if I wasn't pigging out in the kitchen
[14:45] {Les} but thats immaterial
[14:45] {Threei}  sorry Les... but you gave me enough reasons to assume that when I say "don't sdo it" you go right ahead :)
[14:45] {Les} WHAT!
[14:46] {Les} the learning is slowly sinking in happily
[14:48] {Les} getting the impression the market wants to run. maybe a pullback on wfc
[14:49] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .52
[14:50] {Threei}  if stays above .42
[14:50] {Threei}  double bottom break
[14:53] {dino} brb
[14:53] {RonS} c chop
[14:54] {RonS} 100 mil vol on c in last 3 minutes
[14:55] {RonS} Smith Barney's Swotkewicz joins Merrill Lynch       06/18 12:53 PM
[14:55] {RonS} say that 3 times fast...well, maybe 3i could...
[14:58] {Threei}  not even two
[15:04] {dino} calling it a day/week. take care all, ok day, going to keep it there
[15:04] {shorty} good weekend dino
[15:04] {larisa} bye dino :)
[15:04] {Threei}  take care dino
[15:05] {dino} :D
[15:12] {Threei}  LVS invalidated of course
[15:12] {shorty} It did hit .53
[15:12] {Threei}  really?
[15:12] {Threei}  I missed it
[15:13] {shorty} Well, not me.  Stopped at .41
[15:14] {Threei}  BP Spokesperson: Company has a right to seek a contribution from partners with regards to paying claims
[15:15] {shorty} Not sure what to say about that.
[15:15] {Threei}  partners will
[15:18] {bellowsbunch} any plays?
[15:18] {Threei}  not right now... missed some earlier I guess? LVS shot off 27
[15:18] {Threei}  short
[15:18] {bellowsbunch} really
[15:19] {Threei}  BP looks like short on this .60 break but no firm read
[15:19] {Threei}  maybe if stays under .65
[15:19] {Threei}  risk is minimal
[15:23] {Threei}  nope
[15:23] {Threei}  no direction anywhere
[15:24] {Threei}  Fri, multiple witching...
[15:24] {nemo} quadruple
[15:25] {Threei}  rinse
[15:25] {Threei}  shrug
[15:28] {nemo} their goes rig again
[15:33] {Threei}  probably the dullest and most useless week yet this year
[15:33] {nemo} and it ain't even August
[15:34] {Threei}  I don;t think it's summer related
[15:34] {Threei}  this summer is not likely to be boring
06[15:35] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large trout
06[15:35] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large trout
06[15:35] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large trout
[15:36] {nemo} he musta' passed out
[15:36] {Les} what makes you think i am here?
[15:36] {nemo} ahhh....the evil twin
[15:36] {Les} I've got girls, booze and good food to occupy now.
[15:36] {Les} c u's monday
[15:36] {shorty} cya Les
[15:36] {Les} occupy me now
[15:36] {RonS} cya Les
[15:36] {nemo} bad visuals
[15:37] {Threei}  why do I need e-mails from angry anlters googling the net for "trout", finding our logs, then sending me furious "what does this stuff have to do with fishing??"
[15:37] {RonS} lol
[15:37] {nemo} then change the slap supplies
[15:37] {Threei}  take care Les
[15:37] {Threei}  you have the creative slaps
[15:37] {Threei}  the trout is mirc's default
06[15:37] * nemo slaps shorty around a bit with a large pair of tonfa
06[15:37] * nemo slaps shorty around a bit with a large chain mace
06[15:37] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large scalping course
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large daytrading course
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large Master Profit Plan
06[15:38] * nemo slaps Threei around a bit with a large chainsaw
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large chart of uptrending market
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large book of Techniques of Tape Reading
[15:38] {nemo} Oh, are we board
[15:38] {nemo} bored
[15:38] {Threei}  you are board
[15:38] {shorty} Had to google Tonfa.....ouchy!
[15:39] {nemo} that's an understatement
[15:39] {nemo} :)
[15:39] {Threei}  I am not that curious
[15:39] {shorty} Usually I am not, but the tonfa was directed at me.
[15:41] {shorty} I thought it was a big block of tofu.
[15:42] {Threei}  look LVS
[15:42] {Threei}  exactly the same setup as one failed before
[15:42] {Threei}  but this one worked
[15:43] {Threei}  too random for my taste
[15:43] {RonS} Birinyi Associates, the research firm founded by legendary trader Laszlo Birinyi, took the daily change of the 500 members of the index and compared them to the daily change in the index itself over a rolling 200-day period. Ten years ago, stocks moved more independently at a 0.3 correlation. Today, the correlation is approaching the 0.7 mark, which basically
[15:43] {Threei}  which basically...?
[15:43] {nemo} play the indexes
[15:43] {shorty} Here is some Friday comedy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESfEd180rQ
[15:44] {RonS} means that 70 percent of the time, an individual stock’s move will match the change in the overall index each day.
[15:44] {shorty} Need the Benny Hill theme song for it though.
[15:44] {Threei}  sounds about right to me
[15:44] {RonS} "If I had to hypothesize, it is the proliferation of ETFs,” said Cleve Rueckert, the Birinyi analyst who compiled the figures. “You’re getting less specific company analysis and more of a focus on sectors."
[15:45] {Threei}  I never run stats but I do play index following way more than I used to 10 years ago
[15:45] {RonS} The analyst also cited a short-term trading mentality that is feeding on itself.
[15:45] {RonS} ...ergo, scalpers win...
[15:47] {shorty} Have a great weekend everyone.
[15:47] {Threei}  take care shorty
[15:48] {RonS} cya shorty
[15:49] {hawk} enjoy the weekend all :)
[15:49] {Threei}  you too hawk
[15:49] {RonS} good weekend all ;)
[15:50] {Threei}  thank you all
[15:50] {Threei}  have a great weekend
[15:50] {larisa} bye :)
[15:50] {Threei}  see you all on Monday
[15:50] {nemo} wiedersehen

Wednesday, June 9, 2010

Wed Jun 09 2010

Per one member's request, we will do two charts today (I guess he likes them). First is beautiful LVS breakdown - we were hunting for a setup on it but its first moves after opening were too vicious with no clear setups. Finally it formed a decent range for a short - 10 cents risk, the reward is easy to see on this cascading chart.

Second one is CAT breakout. Chart break was 58.15 but there was also a huge offer at .16, so we made the break of that price our long trigger.
Overall, very nice day with a lot of good trades on both sides.

Session Time: Wed Jun 09 00:00:00 2010

[08:12] {magoo} morn
[08:13] {Threei} hey mags
[08:24] {Threei} EU) Russian President Putin: "Trusts and believes" in the euro, believes EU leaders are handling the crisis correctly
[08:24] {Threei} - Will not change attitude to the euro's role as a reserve currency.
[08:24] {Threei} ***Reminder: On May 27th, Russia Central Banker Ignatiev stated that there was no discussion about changing Russia's reserve makeup (In recent sessions there had been market rumors that the CBR would cut its euro share of currency reserves . Back on On May 24th theStreet.com reported that Russia's Central Bank increased its USD reserve
[08:25] {Threei} allow me to translate fro Russian
[08:25] {Threei} "we believe Euro is so dead..."
[08:26] {Threei} GR) Greek Fin Min Papaconstantinou: Reiterates on track to meet 2010 deficit target; Rumors of sovereign default are 'ridiculous' and restructuring NOT an issue
[08:27] {Threei} "I reiterate, NOT an issue"
[08:27] {Threei} Second EU/IMF mechanism payment is secured
[08:27] {Threei} - Greece may processd with GDP revision from 2011 in conjunction with EuroStat.
[08:27] {Threei} - Deposit outflows from Greek banks have recently stopped.
[08:27] {Threei} - 5-month state revenue above 8%, expenditure down more than 10% y/y.
[08:27] {Threei} **Insight: The 2010 Greece target deficit-to-GDP ratio of 8.7%.
[08:29] {Threei} 7:00:16 AM
[08:29] {Threei} CIENA Corp. Reports Q2 -$0.13 v -$0.26, R$253.5M v $268Me
[08:29] {Threei} - Guides Q3 Rev $375-400M v $385Me
[08:29] {Threei} - Expects that as-adjusted gross margin will be consistent with our near-term expectation of low 40s.
[08:29] {Threei} - Europe remains a challenge due to volatile macroeconomic conditions
[08:29] {Threei} - Non-U.S. customers contributed 29% of total revenue.
[08:29] {Threei} - Gross Margin 49% v 43% y/y
[08:38] {nemo} morn mags
[08:38] {nemo} gotta' question
[08:38] {nemo} what key combination closes a window?
[08:40] {Threei} Ctrl-F4?
[08:40] {nemo} tried that
[08:40] {Threei} Alt-F4?
[08:41] {nemo} mmmhhhh?
[08:41] {Threei} Shift-F4?
[08:41] {Threei} one of those
[08:42] {Threei} IT) Italy Treasury: Treasury recouped 5.6B in revenues from tax amnesty; Government recieved in total 104.5B
[08:42] {nemo} alt
[08:42] {Threei} OK... I rememer F4, the resy is for multiple tries :)
[08:43] {nemo} yep
[08:46] {Threei} this I find hard to believe:
[08:46] {Threei} (GR) China is looking to invest heavily in Greece - Washington Post (update)
[08:47] {Threei} my translation: {China} let's talk this thing up, maybe we can dump at beter prices
[08:47] {Threei} - The Chinese are planning to spend hundreds or even billions of euros into Greece. The cornerstone of the plans is the transformation of the Greek port of Piraeus into "the Rotterdam of the south," creating a modern gateway linking Chinese factories with consumers across Europe and North Africa.
[08:47] {Threei} - This week, the Chinese shipping giant Cosco assumed full control of the major container dock in Piraeus, just southwest of Athens. In return, the Chinese have pledged to spend $700 million to construct a new pier and upgrade existing docks.
[08:47] {Threei} - The Greek government is also courting China for a bevy of other projects, including a sprawling new distribution center in the industrial wastelands west of Athens, a monorail line, five-star hotels and a new maritime theme park
[08:48] {Threei} or:
[08:49] {Threei} let's at least spend those Euros as fast as we can and get an ownership of something real, while we still can buy something for this dying currency
[08:50] {nemo} How much you want to bet they eventually put a Naval fleet there? They have no bases to speak of outside of China.
[08:55] {Threei} Fitch revises outlook on US equity REITs to Stable from Negative
[08:57] {Les} good idea for the chinese. cut time and congestion in rotterdam
[08:58] {Les} Italian railway a bit crappy, but swiss building huge tunnel to link south with north. very fast
[08:58] {Threei} (and get rid of Euros in the process)
[08:58] {Les} as should everyone
[08:58] {Les} who holds euros
[08:58] {Les} morning
[08:58] {Threei} hi
[09:00] {Threei} BP US Coast Guard, in letter dated June 8, sets 72 hour deadline to produce a revised oil containment plan
[09:05] {dino} gm all
[09:05] {Threei} dino :)
[09:07] {Threei} (IT) Italy CGIL union calls for general strikes against austerity measures on June 25th (related EUR/USD EWI )
[09:07] {Les} hi dion
[09:07] {Les} dino too
[09:08] {Threei} (HU) Fitch: Hungary's budget plans are a "moderately encouraging," 2010 budget deficit ratio remains unchanged at 4.2%
[09:08] {Threei} - Calls for Hungarian Govt to avoid attacking its Central Bank
[09:08] {Threei} lol
[09:12] {RonS} gm gents
[09:12] {larisa} gm :)
[09:12] {dino} :D
[09:13] {Les} hey larisa. aren't you forgetting someone ron?
[09:13] {Threei} ron, larisa :)
[09:13] {nemo} BIDU looks like it wants to pop
[09:14] {RonS} larisa was not on then Les. Hi Larisa. ;)
[09:14] {larisa} np, I am not THAT sensitive :) Ron, Les, Vad, all :)
[09:15] {dino} china is being smart on the greece move, getting in cheap. buying when the blood is flowing
[09:16] {RonS} ...unaware of history..."Beware of Greeks bearing gifts."
[09:16] {Les} yeh, they'll have to put chinese workers on the dock if they want to move stuff
[09:16] {RonS} lol
[09:18] {RonS} What does everyone think?...chop or run today?
[09:19] {Threei} what's the point Ron?
[09:19] {RonS} ...Big Ben starts talking at what? 10 a.m.?
[09:19] {Threei} CIEN picked up stterngth
[09:20] {RonS} ...just checking feerings 3i...
[09:20] {Threei} yes, 10
[09:20] {nemo} fas bidu V
[09:20] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:20] {Threei} jf :)
[09:21] {lasertrev} good morning
[09:21] {Threei} trev :)
[09:22] {Threei} EU) EU's Barroso: It is now not the time to redesign EU treaties
[09:22] {Threei} really
[09:22] {Threei} I'd rearrange the chairs on Titanic's desk
[09:22] {Threei} deck
[09:23] {Threei} the political will of EU members is main factor
[09:23] {Threei} no, it's not - the laws of economy is
[09:23] {Threei} invisible hand,, ya know
[09:25] {Les} I think it comes down to the people
[09:25] {Les} get them angry enough...
[09:25] {Les} politicians will hang
[09:25] {Threei} economy will
[09:25] {Threei} and sometimes economy does that wothout even populal anger
[09:26] {Threei} witness USSR
[09:26] {Les} right
[09:26] {Threei} there was no widespread anger
[09:26] {Threei} things just crambled under their own weight
[09:27] {Threei} (US) Goldman Sachs Abbey Joseph Cohen: Sees no 'double' dip recession in the US, though growth will slow in H2 of this year
[09:27] {Threei} - Belives that the Fed will wait as long as possible before hiking rates.
[09:27] {Threei} - Sees that the euro is fairly valued for now
[09:28] {nemo} O.K. Now we can be sure what's gonna' happen
[09:28] {nemo} Just go opposite AJC
[09:29] {Threei} pullback CIEN should be interesting for long,
[09:29] {Threei} desirably to 14.50
[09:30] {Les} so Patience made out well if she was all in long at 1:30pm yesterday
[09:30] {Threei} NKTR Announces Positive Initial Results from Phase 2 Study of NKTR-102 in Metastatic Breast CancerAnnounces Positive Initial Results from Phase 2 Study of NKTR-102 in Metastatic Breast Cancer (11.54, +0.29, 2.58%)
[09:32] {Threei} LVS
[09:32] {Threei} pullback to about .20 on watch
[09:32] {Threei} at least
[09:32] {Threei} quite possibly deeper
[09:33] {Threei} shurg
[09:33] {Threei} shrug too
[09:34] {Threei} no news, no idea what got into it
[09:35] {shorty} morning all
[09:36] {jfjf64} uso
[09:36] {jfjf64} .03 break
[09:36] {Threei} shorty :)
[09:37] {Threei} OK
[09:37] {Threei} sharp pullback
[09:37] {Threei} one more leg, .30 is support now
[09:37] {nemo} what stock?
[09:37] {magoo} LVS
[09:37] {Les} out +.10 lvs
[09:37] {nemo} ty
[09:37] {jfjf64} whos on 1st
[09:37] {nemo} what team?
[09:38] {jfjf64} not celtics
[09:38] {jfjf64} lol
[09:38] {nemo} fas may be looking for open at .10
[09:40] {Threei} CIEN, coming there
[09:40] {Threei} keep an eye on it, .50 is solid support
[09:40] {Threei} USD/CNY (US) US Sen Stabenow (D-MI): There will be enough votes in Senate to bring a China currency bill to the floor for ultimate approval
[09:41] {jfjf64} fcx
[09:41] {nemo} tempting
[09:42] {Threei} FCX??
[09:42] {Threei} no way
[09:42] {jfjf64} in .58
[09:42] {Threei} for short, maybe
[09:42] {Threei} .50 - .60
[09:43] {Threei} no short
[09:43] {Threei} ok, this time LVS should lose the support and give real pullback finally
[09:43] {Threei} under .40 will get interested
[09:44] {nemo} 1:1 fcx
[09:44] {Les} fcx developing a squeeze maybe? l .61
[09:45] {Threei} well, you have 1:2
[09:45] {jfjf64} out half
[09:45] {Threei} finally LVS
[09:45] {Threei} recross hunt is on from under .30
[09:46] {Threei} (US) Nevada reports April casino rev $810.4M, -5.7% y/y; Las Vegas strip -0.9% y/y
[09:46] {nemo} oops
[09:47] {Les} out fcx +.15
[09:47] {Threei} another shorp leg down is coming LVS
[09:47] {Threei} sharp too
[09:47] {nemo} spy probably to 107
[09:47] {jfjf64} fcx done
[09:48] {jfjf64} trigger lvs
[09:48] {Threei} not yet...
[09:48] {Les} 50ma lvs .10
[09:48] {Threei} this bounce smells like trap
[09:48] {Threei} let it drop more
[09:48] {nemo} disturbance in The Force, huh?
[09:49] {Threei} FCX watch for bounce entry closer to 63
[09:49] {Les} well fcx was good for a quick kiss before dumping me
[09:53] {Threei} anyone got CIEN near .50?
[09:54] {jfjf64} wish
[09:54] {Les} vad GG here. long on 44 pullback or watch for breakdown?
[09:55] {Les} I think its b/d
[09:55] {Threei} probably
[09:55] {Threei} if stays under .10
[09:56] {Les} s GG .99
[09:56] {jfjf64} b/d ??
[09:56] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS .40 break
[09:56] {Threei} stop above .50
[09:57] {Threei} not a scalp LVS
[09:57] {Les} gg stopped
[09:57] {Threei} 1:1, half out
[09:57] {Threei} +.13
[09:58] {Threei} 1:2, 1/4 more out
[09:58] {Threei} +.22
[09:58] {Threei} 1:3 was almost hit while I typed 1:2, lol
[09:58] {nemo} .11 is 200 ma
[09:59] {Threei} 1:3
[09:59] {Threei} out in full
[09:59] {Threei} +.31
[09:59] {jfjf64} very nice
[09:59] {jfjf64} ty
[09:59] {Threei} 1:4
[09:59] {Threei} for who is more parient
[09:59] {Threei} (I am sure no one here is)
[10:00] {Threei} CH) Senator Schumer: Failure to cite China as FX manipulator is disappointing
[10:00] {nemo} oh, and the US doesn't manipulate either...sheesh
[10:01] {nemo} 1:5
[10:02] {dino} ima sm l .50
[10:03] {nemo} 1
[10:03] {jfjf64} sharp drop cien
[10:03] {nemo} ;6
[10:03] {nemo} 1
[10:03] {nemo} ;6
[10:03] {nemo} 1:6
[10:03] {nemo} weird
[10:04] {Threei} (US) Fed's Bernanke: US fiscal position has deteriorated strongly, see significant restraints on the pace of the US recovery- Imact on US economy from European crisis is likely to be modest, if markets stabilize.
[10:04] {Threei} - Fed intends to do was is necessary to help the recovery.
[10:04] {Threei} - Economy will likely grow this year and in 2011.
[10:04] {Threei} - US job market is improving, still has a long time to go.
[10:04] {Threei} - Expects gains in private demand to sustain the economic recovery, consumer spending to rise moderately
[10:04] {Threei} - Housing market has firmed up only slightly since the middle of last year
[10:09] {RonS} aapl bruised
[10:09] {Threei} I still feel it's my fault
[10:10] {dino} ima stopped -.10, mkt drops
[10:10] {RonS} $750 b market cap and it's your fault...lol
[10:10] {Threei} watching LVS for double bottom
[10:10] {Threei} strokes my ego, Ron :)
[10:11] {RonS} ...and i thought Larisa did that...
[10:11] {Threei} no, she mostly hurts it
[10:11] {nemo} V riding yesterday's close as support
[10:11] {Threei} I take credit for Nissan's financial strength
[10:11] {Threei} why wouldn't I take blame for AAPL weakness
[10:12] {nemo} V making gradually lower highs
[10:12] {Threei} wanted LVS somewhere around .85 - .90
[10:13] {Les} how's the nissan going vad?
[10:13] {Threei} Short Setup: CIEN .70 break
[10:13] {Threei} if stays below .80
[10:13] {Threei} the loveliest car I've ever had Les
[10:13] {nemo} is it long above .80?
[10:14] {Threei} IMO, no
[10:14] {nemo} TY
[10:15] {dino} v, ma may be down march comsumer credit revised from +2 b to -5,4 b, never trust the govt figures
[10:15] {Threei} so, let's see:
[10:15] {Threei} for the last few days pullbacks were deeper than we expected,
[10:16] {Threei} causing a lot of invalidations and rinses
[10:16] {Threei} so, I adjust, trying to place expectations at farther levels
[10:16] {nemo} and of course, market changes
[10:16] {jfjf64} thats correct
[10:16] {Threei} and we reach very few of them
[10:16] {nemo} you need to mask your thoughts
[10:17] {Threei} CIEN did drop to .50 for a nice bounce
[10:17] {nemo} tree falling in the forest
[10:17] {RonS} ergo, the chop or run Q...
[10:17] {Threei} LVS did too but 1 time out of 4
[10:17] {dino} dcth sm l .55
[10:17] {Threei} so we missed three valid plays
[10:18] {Threei} oh well.. price you pay for being flexible sometimes, lol
[10:18] {Threei} still beter than being stubborn donkey
[10:18] {nemo} V still descending highs
[10:18] {nemo} beter...? Freudian?
[10:18] {nemo} oh, donkey
[10:20] {Threei} Short Setup: BP .70 break
[10:20] {Threei} if stays under .80
[10:20] {jfjf64} lost me
[10:20] {Threei} ?
[10:21] {Threei} .71 x .72 at the moment of the call
[10:21] {Threei} .70 break is short trigger
[10:22] {Threei} Preview: DOE (EIA) Petroleum Inventories due at 10:30ET
[10:22] {Threei} **consensus expectations:
[10:22] {Threei} Crude: -1Me
[10:22] {Threei} Gasoline: -250Ke
[10:22] {Threei} Distillate: +500Ke
[10:22] {dino} cfsm l .01
[10:23] {nemo} Like V short yet Vad?
[10:24] {Threei} no idea
[10:24] {nemo} TY
[10:24] {Threei} die already BP
[10:24] {jfjf64} fightin
[10:25] {shorty} needs to break .66
[10:25] {Threei} over 1:1
[10:26] {Les} +.15 ty
[10:26] {Threei} half out +.13
[10:26] {shorty} I panicked...out
[10:26] {Les} someone smack shorty
[10:26] {Threei} where shorty?
[10:26] {shorty} .58
[10:27] {Threei} well, it's a valid scalp
[10:27] {Threei} 1:2
[10:27] {Threei} 1/4 more out +.23
[10:27] {Threei} 1:3
[10:27] {shorty} It is...It dropped so fast
[10:27] {Threei} yup
[10:28] {Threei} even though it did look like worth more than scalp, I woulnd't blame anyone for taking it off there
[10:28] {Threei} missed last exit while blabbing
[10:28] {Threei} let's see if it gives me good price again
[10:29] {Threei} stop to above .60 for the last piece
[10:29] {Threei} 1:3 again
[10:29] {Threei} riding it
[10:29] {Threei} well, trying
[10:30] {Threei} DOE CRUDE: -1.83M V -1ME
[10:30] {Les} lvs looking for that db
[10:30] {Threei} GASOLINE: 0K V -250KE; DISTILLATE: +1.8M V +500KE; UTILIZATION: 89.1% V 87.5%E
[10:31] {Threei} lvs
[10:31] {Threei} need more
[10:31] {Threei} I don't trust it here
[10:34] {shorty} LVS is hard to play right now.
[10:34] {Threei} yeah, no pattern
[10:34] {Threei} a lot of noise
[10:37] {Threei} Short Setup: WFC .55 break
[10:37] {Threei} stop above .65
[10:38] {Threei} hardcore scalpers can keep it above .60 but I am not a fan of this approach in this particular case
[10:39] {shorty} darn...missed your call
[10:39] {Threei} it's there again
[10:40] {shorty} took it
[10:40] {dino} qcom .95 l
[10:40] {Threei} pesky scalpers have 1:1
[10:40] {nemo} TY
[10:40] {Threei} but we all despise those lowlife creatures, right?
[10:40] {nemo} Where's that list....?
[10:40] {Les} hmm I am wearing day trader cap for this trade
[10:41] {Threei} lord, fern is going to kill me when he is back
[10:41] {shorty} How is he doing?
[10:41] {nemo} saw spy bouncing off support
[10:41] {Threei} haven't heard from him yet
[10:42] {Threei} US) Fed's Bernanke: Cannot ever entirely rule out a 'double dip' recession, but moderate growth expected; Economic recovery "modest," not as fast as desired, but we averted economic collapse - Q&A
[10:42] {Threei} - Encouraged by the European response; stresses importance of cooperation
[10:42] {Threei} "we averted economic collapse" - we will hear that for years to come
[10:43] {Threei} and will never know whether cure was worse than illness
[10:43] {Threei} - Confident Europeans want to maintain the currency union and leadership is committed to the resolution of problems
[10:44] {Threei} isn't it funny, markets are green and all our winning trades are on short side, if not count CIEN bounce
[10:44] {Threei} - Price of Gold reflects market uncertainty, signals sent are different from that of other commodities
[10:45] {Threei} of course they are, gold is perceived as half commodity half currency
[10:45] {dino} ipcm
[10:45] {nemo} Scalpers win
[10:46] {shorty} stopped WFC
[10:46] {Threei} not yet
[10:46] {nemo} saw .65 print
[10:46] {Threei} yes
[10:46] {Threei} [10:37] {Threei} stop above .65
[10:46] {Threei} now it is
[10:46] {RonS} IPC The Hospitalist Gets DOJ Info Request On Medicare Claims 06/09 07:27 AM
[10:47] {nemo} What did the French knight on the ramparts say to King Arthur in Search for the Holy Grail?
[10:47] {RonS} how's it hanging?
[10:47] {nemo} no
[10:47] {Threei} - Reiterates comfort that the Fed has the tools it needs to exit low interest rate policy without creating inflation
[10:47] {shorty} We are the knights that say NI!
[10:47] {nemo} no
[10:48] {nemo} that was later
[10:48] {dino} good night
[10:48] {nemo} no
[10:48] {Threei} got a cigarette?
[10:48] {nemo} nah
[10:48] {RonS} sacre bleu!
[10:48] {Threei} pass me that bottle?
[10:48] {nemo} sheesh
[10:48] {nemo} god
[10:48] {nemo} oh, boy...have you guys got homework!
[10:49] {RonS} since it is legend...who cares?
[10:49] {nemo} classic movie
[10:49] {dino} out qcom .07, +.12
[10:49] {shorty} There is a reason why I married rich, it's so I don't have to do anymore homework.
[10:50] {RonS} oh, the movie...
[10:50] {Les} good answer
[10:50] {dino} gj shorty
[10:50] {nemo} now the trick is to stay married :)
[10:50] {shorty} :)....and thanks dino
[10:51] {RonS} ...or get paid in the divorce
[10:51] {dino} ;)
[10:51] {shorty} Covered that one RonS...:D
[10:51] {shorty} But, there is love.
[10:52] {nemo} right....
[10:52] {shorty} lol....
[10:52] {shorty} I hate LVS
[10:52] {Threei} {LVS} why, oh why
[10:53] {Threei} notice where it bounced from on that double bottom formation
[10:53] {dino} ipcm sm l .00 risky
[10:53] {nemo} yesterday's close
[10:53] {Threei} [10:12] {Threei} wanted LVS somewhere around .85 - .90
[10:54] {Threei} see 10:33 low?
[10:54] {nemo} yep
[10:55] {Threei} Sixty-four percent (64%) say U.S. society is generally fair and decent while 24% view it as unfair and discriminatory.
[10:55] {Threei} well... would be werid if majority saw it as discriminatory, no?
[11:00] {Les} gold miners not with the program
[11:01] {Les} $POG letting off some steam
[11:02] {dino} out cf ave .42,
[11:02] {dino} +.41
[11:05] {Threei} AIG Fed's Bernanke: Believes AIG will repay all TARP funds - Q&A (34.97, +0.66, 1.92%)
[11:07] {Threei} ugh... .50 break AIG, happened way too fast to alert
[11:08] {Threei} see if bounce to above .50 for double top short entry
[11:09] {Threei} we want it to go over .50, form the lower top and break .50 again for entry
[11:09] {Threei} (US) US Dept of Interior's Salazar: 6 month moratorium on deepwater drilling could end sooner (related USO )
[11:10] {dino} out ipcm .50, +.50
[11:10] {Threei} HAL
[11:11] {Threei} interesting daily
[11:11] {Threei} 24 break should catapult it
[11:11] {Threei} hopefull tomorrow
[11:11] {Threei} hopefully
[11:12] {Threei} German Economy Minister rejects Opel's request for aid
[11:12] {Threei} oh good... someone has some commmon sense
[11:12] {Les} i've lost laser. anyone else?
[11:13] {Threei} fine here
[11:13] {nemo} nope
[11:13] {nemo} putz
[11:13] {Les} a european thing hey...
[11:13] {nemo} no...
[11:13] {nemo} an aussie trying to operate a computer
[11:13] {dino} blame it on dr. evil's "lazer"
[11:13] {nemo} need ese with a rim shot
[11:14] {Threei} AIG, sharp dive to about .60 turns it into bounce candidate
[11:15] {Threei} (US) S&P awaiting change in tone from US Govt on policies to handle deficit (related MUNIS TLT SHY IEF )
[11:17] {RonS} DC sirens to change pitch of whining
[11:18] {Threei} at most
[11:18] {Threei} even that is in doubt
[11:19] {Threei} the "it's all Bush fault" routine is too entrenched and comfortable
[11:22] {Threei} CAT Raises dividend 5% to $0.44 from $0.42
[11:22] {Threei} - Payable August 20, 2010, to stockholders of record at the close of business, July 20, 2010.
[11:23] {RonS} short squeeze could heat up in pq
[11:23] {Threei} CAT too
[11:23] {Threei} if breaks .16
[11:24] {Threei} HAL broke 24
[11:24] {nemo} it's been running a 45 degree line since yesterday
[11:24] {Threei} Long Setup: CAT .16 break
[11:26] {nemo} stop?
[11:27] {Threei} what stop... half out here
[11:27] {Threei} or take scalp
[11:27] {nemo} scalp
[11:28] {Threei} if partial, stop for the balance to under .10
[11:28] {dino} ima sm l .80
[11:28] {Threei} offer 1/4 more above .40
[11:28] {Threei} out.42
[11:29] {Threei} stop to b/e
[11:30] {Threei} IA) UN Security Council pass sanctions on Iran
[11:30] {Threei} - Brazil and Turkey vote against
[11:31] {Threei} anyone went for HAL?
[11:31] {nemo} huge offer .21
[11:32] {Threei} I don't suggest long here
[11:32] {Threei} offer last piece of CAT at .55
[11:33] {Threei} sharp pullback HAL
[11:33] {Threei} recross long
[11:34] {Threei} 5 cents range
[11:34] {jfjf64} .05
[11:34] {Threei} ?
[11:35] {Threei} CAT direct hit
[11:35] {jfjf64} recross .05
[11:35] {Threei} out +.40
[11:36] {Threei} why not 24 jf??
[11:36] {Threei} with .95 support
[11:43] {Threei} anyone's alive out tjere?
[11:43] {nemo} no
[11:43] {RonS} Salazar: BP Must Pay Salaries Of Any Laid-Off Oil-Services Workers 06/09 09:21 AM
[11:44] {RonS} Ken Salazar = god
[11:44] {nemo} if they're laid off, they're unemployed...wtf
[11:44] {Threei} RMBS US Appeals court reportedly decides cases should be reheard in October (22.65, +0.75, 3.42%)
[11:46] {Les} haha can hear my friend's teeth grinding over that decision
[11:46] {nemo} BIDU short?
[11:47] {jfjf64} lvs nother leg down vad
[11:47] {Threei} no idea BIDU
[11:48] {Threei} LVS, around .50 - .60 probably
[11:51] {Les} vad, when laser keeps cutting out
[11:51] {Les} anything I can do through setup?
[11:51] {dino} ima stopped -.30
[11:51] {Les} I will definitely have trev on speed dial
[11:53] {jfjf64} in .67
[11:53] {jfjf64} lvs
[11:54] {Threei} I don't know what you mean Les
[11:54] {Threei} setup is setup
[11:54] {Threei} done once
[11:54] {Les} no, at the login screen
[11:54] {nemo} huge ofer bidu .90
[11:55] {Threei} login screen? there is just username and password there
[11:55] {Les} ah bon? demo login has setup button as well
[11:55] {Threei} [11:54] {Threei} setup is setup
[11:55] {Threei} [11:54] {Threei} done once
[11:55] {jfjf64} half out.78
[11:56] {Les} ok
[11:56] {Les} not working well today
[11:56] {jfjf64} done
[11:56] {Threei} wtg jf
[11:58] {dino} gj
[12:01] {RonS} dino, lwsn
[12:03] {RonS} lwsn ibm rumors?
[12:05] {Threei} LWSN Hearing Dealreporter speculating could be takeover target (timing uncertain) (7.90, +0.16, 2.07%)
[12:07] {jfjf64} back
[12:07] {jfjf64} mibbit
[12:07] {jfjf64} grrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:12] {Threei} (IA) Senior Iran Official: Iran has no intention to suspend enrichment activities following UN vote (related USO GLD )
[12:12] {Threei} as if anyone ever doubted that
[12:15] {Threei} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z9qZzO2UOg
[12:16] {shorty} Awesome!
[12:16] {Les} can't blame her
[12:17] {shorty} He is a she?
[12:17] {Les} who knows
[12:23] {Threei} RMBS...
[12:23] {Threei} panic comes
[12:24] {jfjf64} hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[12:24] {Threei} watching if we get some clear bounce forming
[12:24] {Les} this area is last line of defence .70 pivot support
[12:26] {Les} having a drink with neighbour yesterday
[12:26] {Les} he wants to buy at open 21.50 rmbs
[12:27] {Threei} why didn't we just short on "panic comes" remark {G}
[12:27] {Les} cause its dropped so damned far. scary
[12:27] {nemo} or on break of support
[12:28] {Les} l .11
[12:28] {Threei} wow
[12:28] {Threei} why that high
[12:29] {Les} out +.15
[12:29] {Threei} that's kind of trading that will get you in serious troubles
[12:30] {Les} l .11 with stop under 20. it held
[12:31] {Threei} you want to hear why it's n ot a good trade or you want to explain to me why it's good?
[12:31] {jfjf64} ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:31] {jfjf64} want to hear both pls
[12:31] {jfjf64} les 1st
[12:32] {jfjf64} 3i
[12:32] {jfjf64} your up
[12:32] {Threei} I'll pass
[12:32] {jfjf64} lol
[12:32] {jfjf64} ??
[12:33] {dino} ima sm l .25
[12:34] {Les} sorry, back from kitchen
[12:34] {Les} why not?
[12:34] {Threei} almost 40 cents jump from the low in a single breath
[12:35] {Threei} no consolidation,
[12:35] {Threei} no pullback
[12:35] {Threei} just vetical snap
[12:35] {Les} sure. I saw that
[12:35] {Threei} what kind of chart formation, trigger or whatever else is that?
[12:35] {Threei} it's just an impulsive entry
[12:35] {Threei} "aww, it's getting away" kind
[12:36] {Les} none. just like the waterfall event may 6
[12:36] {jfjf64} ??
[12:36] {Les} playing the quarter routine. low of .75
[12:36] {Les} break of .00
[12:36] {Les} out .25
[12:37] {Les} missed .00 so took .11
[12:37] {Threei} OK... I am not sure what you are saying but here is what I have to say:
[12:38] {Threei} keep doing it witrh real money, there won't be much of it left very very soon
[12:38] {Les} ok
[12:39] {jfjf64} all guilty les i know i am
[12:39] {jfjf64} structure structure structure
[12:40] {Threei} yeah, those are three mosty important things {G}
[12:41] {Threei} just FYI guys
[12:41] {Threei} if at some point in future you hear that I am arrested for violence against a real estate agent
[12:42] {Threei} the real reason for that is,
[12:42] {Les} you posted me a letter bomb?
[12:42] {Threei} hearing about "locatioon location location" being thtee most important things I lost it, grabbed him by the throat and shook violently screaming:
[12:42] {Threei} "this is not three things, you rtetard, this is one thing repeated three times"
[12:43] {jfjf64} 4 real
[12:43] {Threei} not yet... but some day...
[12:43] {Les} you are a realist vad...
[12:43] {Threei} this is one of those "what grinds my gear" moments {G}
[12:44] {Les} lvs coming into b/d zone
[12:44] {dino} ahhh yes mr peter griffin
[12:44] {Threei} I just hate it when they repeat it for zillionth time with this extremely wise expression on their face
[12:44] {Les} so what's your excuse? :)
[12:44] {Threei} as if they impart some incredibly deep wisdom
[12:44] {dino} seems to me price is top one
[12:44] {jfjf64} think structure takin place rmbs
[12:46] {Threei} lol
[12:46] {nemo} fas...66
[12:46] {Les} I guess he's selling something, but its something that makes him money
[12:46] {nemo} long
[12:46] {Threei} president on TV sayiong this is toughest sanctions against Iran yet
[12:47] {nemo} what, they calling them names?
[12:47] {dino} and iran saying big deal
[12:47] {Threei} AFTER Iran has already said it shrugs them off
[12:47] {dino} dcth sm l .75
[12:48] {Les} BP
[12:48] {nemo} not feeling the love on fas, Vad
[12:48] {Threei} hard to tell
[12:48] {Threei} a bit random right now
[12:48] {nemo} bp or fas?
[12:49] {jfjf64} short les
[12:49] {Threei} FAS
[12:49] {jfjf64} .90 break
[12:49] {Les} bounce time shorty
[12:49] {nemo} TY
[12:49] {Threei} BP is so dead...
[12:49] {jfjf64} guess not
[12:49] {Threei} 2 and half points drop
[12:49] {shorty} alright....ready
[12:49] {Threei} while market barely retreated from high
[12:49] {nemo} bummmer...fas would be 1:1
[12:50] {nemo} Wine time
[12:50] {nemo} or is that Whine time
[12:50] {Threei} loses all supports, makes new lows every day
[12:50] {Les} sorry not shorty, JF
[12:50] {shorty} :(
[12:50] {Les} screwed my entry .07
[12:51] {jfjf64} great bounce
[12:51] {Les} too far from .01 trigger and stopped .97
[12:52] {Threei} are you using market orders?
[12:52] {Les} no just slow to the chase
[12:53] {Threei} I don't get it
[12:53] {Threei} if you missed the trigger, why do you enter thatmuch higher?
[12:53] {Les} grabbed .07 and went for it. didn't wait for pullback
[12:55] {jfjf64} double bottom
[12:55] {Threei} that would be 32 recross wirth stop under .90
[12:56] {Threei} too fast to alert
[12:58] {Threei} not a long here
[12:58] {Threei} third test is not good
[12:58] {Threei} more often is a trap
[12:59] {jfjf64} im thinkin short
[12:59] {Threei} about here... maybe
[12:59] {jfjf64} just thinkin
[13:00] {Les} vad lvs
[13:00] {jfjf64} .90
[13:00] {Les} a little consolidation for b/d?
[13:00] {Threei} no play Les... noise
[13:00] {Threei} no jf
[13:00] {Threei} either into bounce or let it go,
[13:00] {Threei} it drops so sharply into support, no way to platy breakdown
[13:00] {jfjf64} k
[13:01] {Threei} when I said about here it was .15
[13:01] {Threei} that was roughly an upper envelope
[13:01] {Threei} good sopt fo bounce short
[13:01] {Threei} with covering half into support .90
[13:01] {larisa} what stock? scrolling up 100 lines and still can not find it :)
[13:02] {Threei} BP
[13:02] {larisa} oh ok
[13:02] {shorty} lol...thanks larisa, I was wondering the same.
[13:02] {jfjf64} just mk one up
[13:02] {jfjf64} lol
[13:02] {Threei} lol
[13:02] {larisa} I do jf usually :)
[13:02] {Les} what about structure jf?
[13:03] {Les} which film?
[13:03] {Les} "he's making it up as he goes along!"
[13:03] {jfjf64} thought .90 break was S
[13:03] {jfjf64} LOL
[13:04] {Les} lvs consolidation here vad. not interesting?
[13:05] {Threei} ummm
[13:05] {Threei} yes :)
[13:05] {Les} :P
[13:05] {Les} :/
[13:06] {jfjf64} you drinkig les
[13:06] {Les} ummm
[13:06] {Les} no:)
[13:06] {larisa} drinking and thinking about World piece and setup structure :)
[13:07] {Threei} world piece?
[13:07] {Les} oh you just quieten up missy
[13:07] {nemo} Oh no...one of those goodness and light types
[13:07] {Threei} which piece?
[13:07] {RonS} Obama Calls Gaza Situation ‘Unsustainable,’ Announces Aid Plan
[13:07] {nemo} knew it
[13:07] {Les} no stopping bp
[13:08] {larisa} best piece :)
[13:08] {Les} vad, slw 19 b/d if holding .10?
[13:08] {RonS} ...the guy really is outrageous
[13:08] {nemo} Oh jeeez....that's so tempting
[13:08] {Les} what piece do you want nemo?
[13:09] {Threei} ICXT Wins $11M contract (6.50, -0.04, -0.61%)
[13:09] {shorty} People from Vancouver and area. I have never been to Capilano bridge, how hard is it to fall from there? I mean without trying. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/06/08/bc-capilano-bridge-fatal-fall.html
[13:09] {nemo} No Les...I'm steering clear of that cliff
[13:09] {nemo} Vad won't appreciate the editing
[13:09] {Les} :O
[13:10] {Threei} SLW, nah
[13:10] {Threei} I'd say, next to impossible without trying, shorty
[13:10] {Les} ok
[13:10] {shorty} thanks Threei.
[13:10] {Threei} of course you can climb over railing
[13:11] {Threei} or jump
[13:11] {Threei} or be thrown over
[13:11] {Threei} but simply lean over and fall - no way
[13:11] {shorty} Sad story.
[13:11] {Les} had a neighbour do that
[13:12] {Les} my stepfather
[13:12] {Les} aunt
[13:12] {Les} too many people not happy with this life
[13:12] {larisa} you serious les?
[13:12] {shorty} I am always optimistic
[13:13] {Threei} as if there is an array of others to select from
[13:13] {shorty} lol
[13:14] {RonS} see any setup w/ wynn, 3i?
[13:14] {Threei} if I have a choice, I pick a shaman on Big Island of Hawaii 300 years ago
[13:14] {Threei} WYNN is interesting... a bit too thin
[13:14] {Threei} look spread
[13:14] {Threei} volatility can be a killer on it
[13:15] {nemo} SPY has that ramp up the 200 ma look
[13:15] {larisa} wynn, good hotel, staying there next time :)
[13:15] {nemo} longs might be coming back
[13:15] {Threei} but other than that, some consolidation followed by .50 break is tempting
[13:15] {Threei} artifical lake show is a killer in LV Wynn larisa
[13:16] {larisa} I know, I just did not stay in Wynn
[13:16] {jfjf64} spa real nice
[13:16] {RonS} ...especially from a suite on the upper floors
[13:16] {larisa} lol
[13:17] {Threei} think about it... you have all the bananas and coconuts you want, plenty of fish others catch for you, and when some poor bloke violates one of multiple taboos you install, you get to eat him too
[13:17] {Threei} plus natural beauty around
[13:18] {jfjf64} what ya drinkin vad
[13:18] {Threei} [13:14] {Threei} if I have a choice, I pick a shaman on Big Island of Hawaii 300 years ago
[13:18] {RonS} ...was there last week 3i. A lot of slaves busted their rears to put all that lava rock around...
[13:18] {shorty} And then the white man comes Threei.
[13:18] {Threei} yeah
[13:19] {Threei} WYNN works like charm
[13:19] {jfjf64} lol
[13:19] {Threei} that's OK shorty, since my choice is at least 300 years ago, I'd manage to eat some of those too
[13:19] {jfjf64} what was entry
[13:19] {RonS} ...don't believe that liberal tripe shorty. Mankind has always killed each other regardless...
[13:19] {shorty} lol
[13:19] {Threei} 13:15] {Threei} but other than that, some consolidation followed by .50 break is tempting
[13:20] {jfjf64} hmmmm
[13:20] {RonS} did not consolidate enough for me...
[13:20] {Threei} no
[13:20] {Threei} thin , thus volatile
[13:20] {larisa} and break was not tempting enough
[13:21] {Threei} sigh
[13:21] {larisa} lol
[13:21] {jfjf64} structure les
[13:21] {Threei} you all find your own
[13:21] {Les} you drinking JF?
[13:21] {Threei} I found what, about 6 or 7 today?
[13:21] {jfjf64} not yet
[13:21] {Threei} I am off to my hawaii 300 years ago, you trade
[13:22] {shorty} Try surfing Threei, it's fun and you would be in the history books.
[13:22] {nemo} yep...spy's ramped off the 200 a bit
[13:22] {RonS} ...to become a hula dancer...
[13:22] {Threei} and if my minions catch some stock traders, I prmise to eat him last
[13:22] {nemo} oh shit...the visual on that one
[13:22] {larisa} BP
[13:22] {larisa} crazy pace
[13:22] {shorty} lol nemo
[13:23] {nemo} Oh damn...just thought of Vad in ballet class....
[13:23] {RonS} ...now would 3i surfing be a whale on a board?...no offense...
[13:23] {nemo} jf....time to eat the Sig
[13:24] {RonS} :D
[13:24] {shorty} He would be shark bait.
[13:24] {Threei} how the hell did I become the butt of your (questionable) jokes today??
[13:25] {RonS} ...you brought up the time machine thinking...
[13:25] {nemo} Not quite the same thing, Vad's actually a solid fellow, but I've been at the beach watching rather large people swim, and thought, "They make good shark bait, do I really want to be anywhere near them?"
[13:25] {RonS} lol
[13:25] {RonS} Sherman's Lagoon
[13:25] {nemo} It's like watchin walruses roll over on the sandbar
[13:25] {jfjf64} nemo tm to eat the sig
[13:25] {Threei} I lost 12 poinds over last month or so, so you all shut up
[13:25] {RonS} congrats
[13:26] {nemo} As I said, you are a solid fellow
[13:26] {shorty} I surfed 1 mile south of where that man was killed in Del Mar two years ago. I thought to myself " Ignorance is bliss"
[13:26] {jfjf64} good 4 ya vad
[13:26] {nemo} Anyway...stocks! V has to be coming into a bounce
[13:26] {nemo} 200 is at .50
[13:26] {Threei} BP feels like worst is ahead still
[13:26] {jfjf64} stocks
[13:26] {jfjf64} agree
[13:26] {nemo} oh sorry, didn't mean to disturb you're train of thought
[13:27] {jfjf64} structure or
[13:27] {nemo} volume on v last two minutes
[13:27] {nemo} small range
[13:27] {Threei} the deal with BP is, it's getting very hot emotionally
[13:27] {RonS} v...i want a break below .20 and re-cross...(channeling vad)
[13:27] {Threei} which means, normal chart paterns are not reliable
[13:27] {Threei} momo
[13:27] {RonS} nomo
[13:27] {jfjf64} see that
[13:27] {nemo} what JF
[13:28] {jfjf64} talkin 3i
[13:28] {Threei} .20 on V?
[13:28] {jfjf64} bp
[13:28] {Threei} 50 cents from here
[13:28] {Threei} see BP?
[13:28] {Threei} no triggers
[13:28] {jfjf64} sig on yas house
[13:28] {Threei} must be traded as momo
[13:29] {nemo} V dropping...I think .50 bounce area
[13:29] {Threei} all I can do on this kind is to give my read on general direction
[13:29] {nemo} of course SPY just breached 200
[13:29] {Threei} either you get a feel for them, or stay away
[13:29] {jfjf64} 1.00 from my structure trade les
[13:29] {Threei} this is magoo's specialty
[13:29] {jfjf64} 1.10
[13:30] {nemo} ah damn, mighta' bounced at .60
[13:30] {jfjf64} 1.20
[13:30] {jfjf64} 1.30
[13:30] {Les} any new news bp?
[13:30] {Threei} nope
[13:30] {nemo} Yeah, they're screwed
[13:30] {Threei} yes but he asked for "new"
[13:30] {jfjf64} emotions takin overrrrrrrrrr
[13:30] {jfjf64} agreee
[13:31] {jfjf64} 10.00 stock
[13:31] {nemo} damn, .60 was it
[13:31] {Threei} for a second
[13:31] {nemo} ?
[13:31] {magoo} i was gonna say @.90 yhat 30 coming BP
[13:31] {magoo} faast fall
[13:32] {jfjf64} mags where ya been hiding
[13:32] {nemo} under a rock
[13:32] {Les} avoiding us
[13:33] {Threei} can you blame him?
[13:33] {nemo} amazing, with this drop you can still find shares to short
[13:33] {jfjf64} notice that
[13:33] {Threei} after today I am about to styart avoiding you'll as well
[13:33] {nemo} True...why would he want to be in a room that would have him as a member?
[13:34] {Threei} with rare exceptions
[13:34] {nemo} ?
[13:34] {magoo} if IF mkts sell off BP gonna see .27 area today
[13:34] {magoo} 27
[13:34] {Threei} here comes serious optimism:
[13:34] {Threei} EU) IMF's Strauss Kahn: European crisis is not the only downside risk to global growth; affirms 2010 global growth outlook at 4.2%
[13:34] {nemo} market is selling, and V holding
[13:35] {Threei} BP bounce time if breaks .50
[13:35] {Threei} crrrrap
[13:35] {Threei} too fast again
[13:35] {nemo} yep
[13:35] {nemo} too late more like it
[13:35] {Threei} don't chase
06[13:35] * nemo slaps nemo around a bit with a large trout
[13:35] {RonS} bp...some joker is getting repeated on cnbc that says they will be gone by the end of summer...http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/09/news/companies/simmons_gulf_oil_spill.fortune/index.htm...
[13:35] {nemo} oh...simmons...the Peak Oil guy
[13:36] {Threei} if got BP on slight pullback to .55, feel free to exit
[13:38] {nemo} offfer rim .60!!!
[13:38] {Threei} oh god
[13:38] {Threei} Simmons also thinks that perhaps the only way to seal the gush of oil is by doing what the Soviet Union did decades ago -- setting off a bomb deep underground so that the fiery blast will melt the surrounding rock and shut off the spill.
[13:38] {nemo} now .59
[13:39] {nemo} RIMMM
[13:39] {nemo} it's gone
[13:39] {nemo} nevermind
[13:39] {Threei} I want Simmons to say what are we to do if that bomb fractures wrong rock structure and whole oil reserouir starts gushing out
[13:40] {nemo} probably talking nuclear
[13:40] {Les} lawsuits for the next 100 years
[13:40] {larisa} and move to Russia ?
[13:40] {nemo} pre-cooked seafood
[13:40] {magoo} mkts looking very bad here
[13:40] {magoo} spy rot
[13:40] {magoo} aapl rot
[13:40] {magoo} fcx rot
[13:41] {jfjf64} market we talkin bombs
[13:41] {nemo} V strong
[13:41] {Les} lvs .50 b/d if holding .60?
[13:42] {Threei} I'd rathe tryon it on the other side, as in:
[13:42] {nemo} long .61
[13:42] {Threei} going over .60, stalling,
[13:42] {nemo} missed
[13:42] {Threei} and short on .60 new breakdown
[13:42] {Les} ok
[13:42] {Threei} yup, like this
[13:42] {jfjf64} in .59
[13:43] {Threei} stop for hardcore scalpers is .65, for normal people abpve .70
[13:43] {Threei} and for those who want big drop, .80
[13:43] {Threei} in any case, it's much better way to enter short than wait for .50 break
[13:43] {Les} yeh lvs took me for a ride this morning. payback time
[13:44] {Threei} if market established downtrend here, then this little bounce is perfect for entry
[13:44] {Threei} and if it changes, can keep much better stop
[13:46] {Threei} market doesn't die that easy
[13:46] {Threei} BP new low
[13:46] {Threei} told ya... worst was ahead still
[13:47] {shorty} crap! I covered .40
[13:47] {jfjf64} lvs
[13:47] {jfjf64} lets go
[13:48] {Threei} ugh... why did I even read that article
[13:48] {Threei} guy seriously irritates me :)
[13:49] {Threei} although to be fair, all guilt-laden "peak this peak that" folks do
[13:50] {nemo} so much for letting V come to me
[13:50] {RonS} beige book in 10
[13:52] {jfjf64} grrrr
[13:53] {jfjf64} call it day takin profit and runninnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[13:53] {Les} gj cheers JF
[13:53] {jfjf64} see ya
[13:53] {Threei} take care jf
[13:53] {jfjf64} S T R U C T U R E
[13:53] {Les} piss off and have a beer will ya
[13:54] {jfjf64} will do
[13:54] {jfjf64} will be lookin at blog later enjoy ya charts 3i
[13:55] {Threei} so,
[13:55] {Threei} want me to do two today?
[13:55] {jfjf64} lol
[13:55] {Threei} in your honor
[13:55] {jfjf64} may be les trade rmbs
[13:55] {Threei} PO) Portugal final vote approves austerity measures
[13:55] {Threei} ***Insight: Today's vote is a "line by line" review of items targeted to save 2B in order to achieve 2010 deficit to GDP ratio of 7.3%. This compares to the 2009 ratio of 9.4%.
[13:55] {Threei} - Portugal target a deficit to GDP ratio of 4.6% by 2011
[13:55] {jfjf64} ahhhhhhhh
[13:56] {Threei} no way
[13:57] {Threei} what a red candle on daily, RMBS
[13:57] {Threei} it beter get positive ruling or your neigbhor may get seriously hurt, Les
[14:00] {Les} wow
[14:00] {Threei} *(US) FED'S BEIGE BOOK: ECONOMY IMPROVED IN ALL 12 OF 12 DISTRICTS;
[14:06] {Threei} Home sales were lifted by tax credit in many districts; consumer spending has been concentrated on necessities; manufacturing improved gradually in districts
[14:06] {Threei} - Consumer spending improved from the previous report. Spending continued to be concentrated in necessities as opposed to discretionary big-ticket items. Retail sales increased in April and May, although several Districts noted that the gains were uneven across months
[14:06] {Threei} - Business spending increased moderately from the previous report. Cleveland, Chicago and Dallas noted that growth in manufacturers' inventories was leveling off, while Boston, Atlanta, and St. Louis reported the same for retailers' inventories
[14:07] {Threei} - Manufacturing and transportation activity continued to gradually improve across all twelve Districts. Most Districts reported further increases in factory production, shipments, and new orders, although Philadelphia and Chicago noted that the pace of gains had slowed in May.
[14:07] {Threei} - Residential real estate activity improved since the last report
[14:08] {Les} yeh I wonder if this is my friends "waterloo", where he learns defeat of buy and hold strategy?
[14:08] {Les} he feels judicial process offers so much to rmbs, but as we see, the game keeps playing without end
[14:10] {Threei} is he just an outside observer or he has some idea of what really is going on?
[14:10] {Threei} wow
[14:10] {Threei} EU) Germany Chancellor Merkel: Euro area rescue package simply 'bought time'
[14:11] {Threei} someone got brains AND balls
[14:11] {Threei} good on you Angela
[14:12] {KSystems} thats my girl
[14:13] {Les} that's disgusting K
[14:13] {Threei} lord, give me power to refrain from comments
[14:13] {Les} thats my grandma
[14:13] {nemo} deine Liebling?
[14:13] {KSystems} hey i voted for her
[14:13] {KSystems} thats all
[14:13] {Threei} whew... ok then
[14:13] {Les} riiiiiiiiiiiight
[14:13] {Les} yeh my friend is following all court proceedings etc. this is why he has conviction to hold
[14:14] {KSystems} its hard enough when theres only ONE attractive female politician in the whole country
[14:14] {KSystems} and thats not angela
[14:14] {Threei} following as in reading materials available for everyone?
[14:14] {nemo} V just puked for a second
[14:14] {Les} l rmbs .60 small
[14:17] {Threei} EU) Germany Chancellor Merkel: - Believe now is the right time to begin exit strategies.
[14:17] {Threei} already?? lol
[14:18] {Threei} New tool may help determine acid reflux disease
[14:18] {Threei} shrug
[14:19] {Threei} I have just the answer
[14:19] {Threei} everu time Greenspan is on TV, country has acid reflux disease
[14:20] {Threei} Crime of the century:
[14:20] {Threei} http://realitytrader.com/vad/Crime%20of%20the%20Century.jpg
[14:20] {nemo} Supertramp
[14:21] {Les} out rmbs +.11.
[14:27] {Threei} Short Setup: AIG .75 break
[14:27] {nemo} did the .86 invalidate it
[14:27] {nemo} ?
[14:28] {Threei} rather top of the bounce defined stop,
[14:28] {Threei} .90 so far,
[14:28] {Threei} and if consoldiates for a while, .80 may become new trigger
[14:33] {Threei} Short Setup: AIG .80 break
[14:33] {Threei} if stays under .90
[14:35] {Threei} BP new bout of bellyache
[14:42] {RonS} 3i, see anything w/ ffiv?
[14:43] {Threei} short...
[14:43] {Threei} smaaaallll
[14:43] {Threei} 68 break
[14:43] {nemo} yeah, helluva stop
[14:46] {Les} ffiv bouncing off the 200
[14:46] {nemo} yep
[14:47] {RonS} ffiv sm s .05
[14:48] {Threei} AIG baby
[14:48] {Les} ffiv out +.24
[14:48] {Threei} coverr half or scalp, don't know
[14:48] {shorty} :( was not shortable.
[14:48] {Threei} FFIV is a beauty
[14:48] {dino} .
[14:48] {Les} covered for scalp .70/.65 thank you
[14:48] {Les} now for lvs
[14:51] {Threei} 400M aid for Gaza
[14:51] {Les} from who?
[14:51] {Threei} guess
[14:51] {Threei} Uncle Sam has some excess money
[14:51] {nemo} Obama
[14:52] {nemo} fcx .60 b/d?
[14:52] {Threei} maybe... half lot
[14:52] {nemo} mmmhhh, tht's the gap from yesterday
[14:54] {Les} lvs come on doooooooown
[14:55] {RonS} cov ffiv .52 +.53 thxs
[14:55] {Threei} :)
[14:56] {Threei} 1:3 AIG
[14:58] {Les} cover lvs .26
[14:58] {Les} +.hmmmmmm
[14:58] {Les} 34 i think
[14:59] {Threei} all shiorts work like charm
[14:59] {Les} incredible that I managed to ruin myself this morning thinking LVS is going down
[14:59] {Les} and as you said
[14:59] {Les} shorts now work like a charm
[15:00] {Threei} look at ghe room slogan
[15:02] {Les} yeh just got on the wrong side of the market
[15:03] {Les} bounce lvs good for another short?
[15:04] {Threei} over .40
[15:04] {Threei} here, don't know
[15:08] {nemo} Vad in a tutu
[15:10] {Les} stop that I've eaten
[15:10] {Les} :D
[15:10] {Threei} huh?
[15:10] {nemo} start drinking heavily then
[15:10] {Les} I'm ther
[15:10] {Les} there
[15:11] {nemo} you're slurring your typing
[15:11] {Les} missus is away
[15:11] {Les} normally we share bottle
[15:11] {shorty} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY8YeLErbEg
[15:11] {Les} today I have it all to myself
[15:11] {Threei} BP total nervous breakdown
[15:12] {nemo} that's funny
[15:12] {Les} rofl shorty
[15:12] {RonS} funny shorty
[15:12] {shorty} I like it.
[15:12] {nemo} beer goggles
[15:13] {nemo} there a bottom under BP?
[15:13] {RonS} 0
[15:13] {nemo} Wow...we be negative
[15:13] {shorty} This one is for the ladies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXLHWmjA5IE
[15:15] {nemo} oh jeez
[15:16] {dino} 20 imo
[15:17] {shorty} dino, are looking at BP?
[15:20] {dino} not really
[15:20] {dino} but gut says 20 by end of month
[15:20] {shorty} need a momo expert
[15:21] {nemo} so...do we retrace all the way to yesterday
[15:21] {nemo} lows
[15:22] {dino} 9757, 1770, 1042
[15:23] {Threei} aig
[15:23] {Threei} why, oh why didn't we just forget about a few shares
[15:23] {Les} where did we short it?
[15:23] {Threei} lol
[15:23] {Les} ouch .79
[15:24] {Threei} Indices give back today's gains as BP speculation weighs on stocks
[15:24] {Threei} - BP is down another 15% below $30 as chatter circulates that BP could be forced into a pre-packaged bankruptcy
[15:26] {dino} sm l ma .97
[15:34] {dino} no good stopped
[15:34] {nemo} yeah, longs a scalp today
[15:37] {dino} not a good close
[15:38] {nemo} [15:20] {nemo} so...do we retrace all the way to yesterday
[15:38] {nemo} if not, we'll test them tomorrow
[15:40] {Threei} GOOG Google asking US and EU govts to put pressure on China on its behalf - WSJ citing sources
[15:41] {nemo} to do what
[15:41] {nemo} ?
[15:41] {Threei} stop sensoraship
[15:41] {nemo} ?
[15:41] {shorty} It's been a slice all. See you tomorrow.
[15:41] {Threei} you don't lmnow anything about GOOG-China feud?
[15:41] {nemo} sure
[15:42] {Les} ciao shorty
[15:42] {Threei} take care shorty
[15:42] {nemo} but as if China could give a rats petard
[15:42] {nemo} rat's
[15:42] {shorty} :)
[15:42] {Threei} so what is it you are asking of us?
[15:42] {Threei} it's between Google, EU, US and China
[15:42] {Threei} we are like Argentina and Mongolia from the joke
[15:43] {nemo} don't get the analogy
[15:43] {Threei} get him a drink someone
[15:43] {nemo} I've had two
[15:43] {Les} what a joke. google took BP's money to buy up search result for "oil spill".
[15:44] {Threei} why not?
[15:44] {Threei} you can buy any search words
[15:44] {Les} google wants china's money, not its bureaucracy
[15:44] {Threei} why should Google refuse BP?
[15:44] {Threei} go ahead and outbid them
[15:44] {Les} no reason, but why should google bitch about china
[15:45] {Les} their country. they do as they want
[15:47] {Threei} that's a novelty concept in the wrld where everyone thinks they can tell others how to run things
[15:49] {larisa} thats for sure, too bad that all the people who really know how to run things are busy driving taxi cabs and cutting hair and daytrading :)
[15:49] {RonS} vad killing aapl -6+
[15:50] {Les} keeping out of politicians way
[15:50] {Threei} I think she just called us armchair critics
[15:50] {Threei} I am sorry Ron... really
[15:51] {Les} I'm a noisy critical bastard on the booze and proud of it
[15:51] {Les} There larisa, that's your average australian male slob
[15:51] {Threei} I am just the opposite
[15:51] {larisa} again, do you look like Jackman?
[15:51] {Threei} I am noisy, critical and irritable when sober
[15:51] {RonS} no slobbering
[15:52] {Threei} on the booze, I am relaxed and happy
[15:52] {Les} http://caracommunity.com/users/les
[15:52] {larisa} nothing like Jackman :)
[15:52] {nemo} Oh crissakes
[15:52] {RonS} lol
[15:52] {nemo} wtf
[15:52] {Les} :(
[15:53] {nemo} bend over and walk backwards, will ya'
[15:53] {RonS} but he can lick his eyebrows
[15:53] {nemo} Not important to me
[15:53] {Les} careful that's almost ten years ago
[15:53] {larisa} you look like russian les
[15:53] {Les} i refuse to age
[15:54] {RonS} rotfl
[15:54] {Les} now that's just rude
[15:54] {nemo} He looks like an ex-con
[15:54] {nemo} Oh yeah, he's from Australia
[15:54] {RonS} guy i knew had a cut like that...his nickname became "deathrow"
[15:55] {dino} common cut in usa
[15:55] {nemo} yeah, for skinheads
[15:55] {dino} no, not at all
[15:55] {dino} crew cuts and shaved heads everywhere
[15:55] {RonS} bp slipping...
[15:55] {nemo} I'm running with it Dino
[15:56] {dino} crew cut on me
[15:56] {nemo} dare you to go short Ron
[15:56] {RonS} no way
[15:56] {nemo} wussy
[15:56] {larisa} my hubby wants to shave his head, i do not let him :)
[15:56] {RonS} i least i trade $$
[15:56] {nemo} Yeah, I did that once, the ex was throwing expletives around for a week
[15:57] {RonS} lol...that's why she's ex
[15:57] {nemo} no...
[15:57] {nemo} I gave her much better reasons
[15:57] {larisa} lol
[15:58] {Threei} much more satisfied with today's trading the the beginning of the week
[16:00] {Les} alright. I need my beauty sleep
[16:00] {Les} night all
[16:00] {dino} lol, monday was my best tues below ave, today red
[16:01] {Threei} in countercycle again :)
[16:01] {Threei} thank you all
[16:01] {dino} gotta hop, tee time in 45
[16:01] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[16:01] {nemo} wiedersehen
[16:01] {larisa} bye all