Friday, February 15, 2013

Feb 15 2013


Perfect way to end the week, with strong winning day. Discipline and careful selection of setups does wonders - whole Feb so far is very good to us.

Session Time: Fri Feb 15 00:00:00 2013
[09:01] {scottie} good morning
01[09:03] {Threei}  scottie :)
[09:04] {patel} Good Morning Traders!
[09:05] {jdetente} gm!
01[09:05] {Threei}  patel, jd :)
01[09:12] {Threei}  jd, admin asked to ask you to check your e-mail
01[09:13] {Threei}  *(US) JAN INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION: -0.1% V 0.2%E
[09:15] {jdetente} I took care of it a few minutes ago....I had an address change.
01[09:16] {Threei}  that's between you two :)
[09:17] {Will49} good opex morning
01[09:17] {Threei}  will :)
[09:23] {ese} morning
01[09:23] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:23] {nemo} this has one of those rip day feels
[09:23] {ese} saw the news clip of that meteor hitting the soviet union.............distroyed your old house vad when it hit
01[09:24] {Threei}  lol
01[09:24] {Threei}  uh oh
01[09:24] {Threei}  troubles guys
01[09:24] {Threei}  Fitch: Ghana outlook lowered to Negative from Stable
[09:24] {Will49} lol
01[09:24] {Threei}  what to do, what to do
[09:24] {ese} sell sell
[09:24] {dptl} gm
[09:24] {ese} ddddddppppppppp
01[09:25] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:25] {dptl} :)
[09:25] {ese} ruth
01[09:25] {Threei}  you guys remember our favortite internet character, Grumpy Cat
01[09:25] {Threei}  new one by him: http://goo.gl/tpjbr
[09:25] {dino} gm
[09:25] {ese} opps...that was suppose to go into the news check
01[09:25] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:26] {cipher} gm
[09:26] {dino} :)
01[09:26] {Threei}  cipher :)
[09:26] {ese} dino C
[09:26] {Will49} all hands on board and toilet is working
[09:26] {cipher} ese
[09:28] {nemo} can feel the animal spirits
[09:29] {ese} lol
[09:29] {dino} ccl hl s .30 stop .51
01[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .65 break
01[09:33] {Threei}  If holds  .55
01[09:33] {Threei}  wow BBRY
01[09:34] {Threei}  cautios comments by Detwiler
01[09:34] {Threei}  whoever Detwiler is
[09:36] {thomcbell} jcp 19 short break if holding 19.10
01[09:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .50 break hl
[09:36] {ese} L elli .49
[09:37] {thomcbell} jcp invalidated
01[09:38] {Threei}  Invalidated  LVS
[09:42] {scottie} trail to .69 ?
[09:42] {scottie} .359 ?
[09:42] {scottie} .59?
[09:42] {scottie} oops
01[09:43] {Threei}  trail FB to .59yes
01[09:43] {Threei}  and welcome to the club of the worst typists ever
[09:43] {scottie} lol
01[09:43] {Threei}  just one thing to remember about that club
01[09:44] {Threei}  I am the president!
01[09:44] {Threei}  I yiled the chair only to someone who can type with swimming fins on his hands
01[09:45] {Threei}  let's sell half
01[09:45] {Threei}  market suddenly weakened
[09:45] {Will49} where's your patience?
01[09:46] {Threei}  FB still looks strong but let's be more careful
01[09:46] {Threei}  it's a friday before long weekend
[09:46] {Will49} am all for that:)
[09:46] {jdetente} stop to .64?
01[09:46] {Threei}  yeah
01[09:46] {Threei}  btw canucks, market is closed on Mon
[09:47] {dptl} out fb ty
[09:47] {dptl} its a long weekend?
01[09:47] {Threei}  yes
[09:48] {jdetente} long weekend. I will be enjoying my global warming on the beach
[09:48] {ese} L sndk .10
[09:48] {dino} asgn sm l .01 ave
[09:48] {dptl} oh pres day
01[09:50] {Threei} Long Setup:  BBRY  .80 break
01[09:51] {Threei}  If holds  .70
[09:51] {ese} out sndk .52 +.42
[09:52] {ese} was sm only 400 shs
[09:52] {dino} gj
01[09:53] {Threei}  *(US) FEB PRELIMINARY UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 76.3 V 74.8E
[09:54] {patel} GDX is tryign to hold 40
01[09:56] {Threei}  1:1
[09:56] {dptl} out rimm ty
[09:56] {dptl} oops bbry
01[09:57] {Threei}  it's like Nutcracker and Ballbreaker... same thing
[09:57] {dptl} lol
[09:58] {dino} out asgn .68, +.67
[09:58] {scottie} out bbry tks Vad
[09:58] {jdetente} thx Vad
[09:58] {ese} wtf......what was i thinkin......out elli .79 -.60..........buy a stock adn lose track of it
01[09:58] {Threei}  yw
01[09:58] {Threei}  wow
[09:59] {ese} wow is right
[09:59] {nemo} why don't you put a stop loss in
[09:59] {ese} was sm though
01[09:59] {Threei}  GDX... I knew it was a good short two days ago :(
[09:59] {patel} yeah
[09:59] {ese} am dn 250 on the day so far......sndk has offset that........sheesh
[10:00] {dino} elli sm l .98
[10:00] {ese} talk about fallin asleep.........i know i went obed late last night but whoa
[10:00] {cc_8} Among the companies with shares expected to trade actively in Friday’s session are Herbalife Ltd. (HLF), Burger King Worldwide Inc. (BKW) and Agilent Technologies Inc. (A).
[10:02] {dino} mtrx sm s .04
01[10:03] {Threei} Short Setup: BBRY  .70 break hl
01[10:03] {Threei}  If holds  .80
01[10:03] {Threei}  aggressive for .60
[10:03] {patel} missed it
[10:03] {dptl} yah
01[10:04] {Threei}  1:1
[10:04] {scottie} missed it too
[10:05] {dino} cov ccl .10, +.20
[10:05] {jdetente} scalp. thanks Vad
01[10:06] {Threei}  yw
[10:06] {patel} wprt spike up
[10:07] {ese} hey nemo......sorry forgot to answer your question re the stop loss............though I had.....plain and simple "F' up......was looking away and didn't realise it
[10:07] {dino} s wprt .89
[10:07] {dino} sm
[10:08] {patel} ncie dino on WPRT
[10:08] {dino} thx patel, cov wprt .56, +.33
[10:09] {thomcbell} any reason wprt is running?
[10:09] {dino} nope
[10:09] {ese} take over chatter
[10:09] {dino} ahh
[10:10] {ese} just looking at trade the news
01[10:10] {Threei}  BBRY
[10:10] {dptl}  JCP .50 long?
[10:10] {ese} L elli .05
[10:11] {patel} Nice call Threei
[10:11] {patel} I wasnt fast enough
[10:11] {dino} thx ese on elli nidea, out .30, +.32
01[10:11] {Threei}  ty
01[10:11] {Threei}  JCP, yes
[10:11] {ese} your welcome......too bad i didn't play it right
01[10:11] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  40 break
01[10:11] {Threei}  If holds  .10
[10:12] {dino} sh*t happens buddy
[10:12] {ese} indeed
[10:13] {dino} mtrx woof, cov .02 +.02
[10:13] {scottie} can't short
01[10:14] {Threei}  yeah
01[10:14] {Threei}  anyone can?
[10:14] {dptl} i did .99
[10:14] {patel} I got in at .99
01[10:14] {Threei}  huh
01[10:14] {Threei}  wait, now I can too
[10:15] {patel} ???
01[10:15] {Threei}  someone must have covered and freed shares for me
[10:15] {Will49} cc8 see chat
[10:15] {patel} target on GDX
01[10:15] {Threei}  1:2
01[10:15] {Threei}  broker might have limited inventory for the name, patel
[10:16] {patel} market should help us as it is coming in
01[10:16] {Threei}  so if all available shares are shorted, you may see unavailable
[10:16] {ese} out elli .48 +.43
01[10:16] {Threei}  but if someone covers, they become available for you again
01[10:16] {Threei}  1:1
[10:16] {dptl} out ty
[10:17] {dptl} i freed some shares
[10:17] {scottie} XL l .75 ?
[10:17] {ese} nemo....ya there
[10:18] {dptl} JCP getting closer
01[10:18] {Threei}  chart is right scottie
01[10:18] {Threei}  market suddenly weakened
[10:19] {dptl} i jcp
[10:19] {dptl} stop under .40
[10:24] {dptl} out ty
[10:24] {scottie} +.09 tks dp
[10:24] {nemo} yep ese
[10:26] {ese} I snaswered your question re the stop up above........was just plain and stupid this morning
[10:26] {ese} L mnst .44
[10:26] {nemo} ahhh
[10:26] {nemo} mnst at 50 day and above R3 I would think about shorting here
[10:28] {ese} looking for a quick jump then out
[10:30] {ese} out mnst  .65 +.21
[10:32] {dino} markets slowing down already
[10:37] {jdetente} good scalping so far
[10:37] {jdetente} thx Vad
01[10:39] {Threei}  :)
01[10:39] {Threei}  CNN anchor suggests meteor hurtling toward Earth could be a result of global warming
01[10:39] {Threei}  what???
[10:39] {nemo} yeah, what an idiot
01[10:39] {Threei}  are these people utterly and completely insane?
[10:39] {nemo} agenda
[10:39] {jdetente} I heard that the other day...hilarious
[10:39] {ese} huh
[10:40] {ese} ya know......when I read stuff like that....I realise I have job security for life..........man there are some stupid people out there
[10:41] {dptl} FAST hanging at the high
[10:41] {jdetente} Try working at a large financial institution ese...that's when I realized I can always find employment. lol
[10:41] {ese} L bbry
01[10:41] {Threei}  actually it's just the opposite I am afraid
[10:41] {ese} I'll bet eh jd
[10:42] {ese} .45 for bbry
01[10:43] {Threei}  at some point the sheer number of stupid reaches critical mass and they start ostracising anyone with IQ above the baseboard
[10:43] {ese} indeed....lol
[10:43] {dino} well, thats atlas shrugged
[10:46] {dptl} .20 short ?FAST
[10:46] {dptl} ?
01[10:46] {Threei}  nah
[10:46] {ese} L bbry avg .47
[10:46] {dptl} K
[10:47] {dptl} oops....ok
[10:53] {thomcbell} jcp tails on the 10 minute have me looking for a short setup
[10:55] {dptl} feels like everyone left...so slow
[10:56] {ese} not me.........
[10:56] {ese} bbry is going nuts again
[11:01] {dino} good one ese
[11:01] {dino} qcom l .50
[11:02] {dptl} DG .90 long?
[11:02] {ese} tks dino out bbry .75 +.30
[11:03] {ese} i hit it with another 3k
01[11:03] {Threei}  can't tell
[11:03] {ese} makes up for early morning stupidity
[11:03] {patel} dp u still in JCP
[11:03] {dptl} no just scalped it
01[11:04] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .85 break
01[11:04] {Threei}  If holds  .95
01[11:07] {Threei}  Invalidated
[11:12] {scottie} JCP l .75 ?
01[11:13] {Threei}  50/50
[11:14] {scottie} tks
[11:17] {dino} qcom stop -.05
[11:19] {scottie} VLO s .05 ?
01[11:20] {Threei}  hl, yes
[11:20] {scottie} in .04
[11:20] {dptl} pivot at 46.99 VLO can stop there
[11:29] {scottie} out -.12
[11:30] {scottie} looks like you were right dp :)
[11:30] {thomcbell} short setup bbry 14.54 break if holding 14.64
[11:35] {ese} L bbry .61
[11:37] {thomcbell} yes beginning to look more like a long
[11:38] {dino} vxx l .05
[11:39] {ese} whats up?  spyders tankin
01[11:40] {Threei}  no news
01[11:40] {Threei}  there is G20 session coming, and it looks like currency war will be front and center
[11:41] {dptl} global warming ? lol
01[11:41] {Threei}  with pressure mounting on USA to sop the borrowing
01[11:41] {Threei}  stop
01[11:41] {Threei}  which as we know well means market crash
[11:41] {dino} its a race to devalue the fastest
[11:41] {dino} inflate it all away
[11:42] {scottie} CLF s .75 ?
01[11:43] {Threei}  hl... looks tempting
[11:44] {scottie} can't short
[11:44] {dptl} not available here
[11:45] {scottie} and that's the good news
[11:45] {dptl} and its good its not
[11:45] {patel} yeah
01[11:45] {Threei}  lol
[11:45] {patel} that would have stopped us out so fast.
[11:45] {dptl} trading gods on our side :)
[11:50] {ese} dino you out of elli or are you still in there?
[11:52] {dino} out vxx
[11:52] {dino} +.03
[11:57] {dptl} ok...taking a break for an hour
[12:04] {dino} me too, things are dead
01[12:05] {Threei}  {Things} we just play dead... waiting for you to turn away
[12:14] {ese} what da ya mean....don't interupt my brain by thinkin.........if this thing wouldn't cut me off then i wouldn't have to think..............SO THERE!
01[12:14] {Threei}  lol
[12:17] {Will49} TBell..tks on BBRY +.16
[12:19] {thomcbell} jcp - all that distance covered to just get back to pivot
[12:19] {thomcbell} i dont know - not a short setup yet but getting interesting
[12:25] {ese} don't know about you all but me and the family are going out for horsemeat burgers tonight.........looks like it's the new delicacy..................YUK!  what the frig next
[12:26] {dino} lol
01[12:26] {Threei}  hmmm
[12:26] {dino} first pink slime, now horse
[12:26] {dino} suppose cat & dog are next (a my dog reads this and runs out the door)
[12:27] {ese} and posibly after that........maybe some light entertainment..........overthrowing a 3rd world government somewhere...........perfect family friday night
[12:27] {ese} lol
[12:27] {Will49} we live in interesting times
[12:27] {ese} no kidding eh
[12:28] {ese} I think the only sane people around are those on this board
[12:28] {ese} hmmmmmmmmmm..............I think i'm gonna re think that
[12:29] {dino} indeed
01[12:30] {Threei}  psst ese... *cough* nemo *cough*
[12:30] {Will49} yea ese, everyone else is insane except you an me...and I'm starting to wonder about you:)
[12:31] {nemo} full moon?
[12:31] {Will49} :)
[12:40] {thomcbell} long setup aig 38.88 break if holding 38.81
[12:43] {ese} lol
[12:43] {patel} any read on NAV
[12:44] {patel} 27.19 long
[12:44] {ese} wow sure...........wait til i'm in the shower and then attack me...........huh
01[12:44] {Threei}  not a good time of the day for this kind of setups, patel
01[12:44] {Threei}  sounds dirty ese
[12:45] {ese} ?
[12:45] {patel} thanks threei
[12:45] {ese} I'll have you know that I represent that remark
[12:47] {ese} I've got some errands to run......L bbry avg
[12:48] {ese} .49
[12:48] {ese} will catcy you later this morning
01[12:48] {Threei}  you intend to hold it over the long weekend?
01[12:48] {Threei}  or return today?
[12:49] {ese} hmmmmmmmm.....preferably out today.......want to see how it reacts end of day
[12:49] {Will49} just kidding ese
[12:50] {Will49} just a couple of Hosers horsing around eh?
[12:50] {ese} no you wern't..........i can tell..........your nemos friend now
[12:50] {Will49} not on your life
01[12:50] {Threei}  we all are
[12:50] {ese} lol
01[12:50] {Threei}  who wants to be on his postal worker list, in ink?
01[12:51] {Threei}  or subjected to this look: http://tradinglog.realitytrader.com/2013/02/nemo-special.html
[12:51] {ese} awesome
[12:52] {ese} cya later
[12:53] {Will49} good one Vad
[12:56] {thomcbell} ha
[12:59] {dptl} Chelyabinsk meteor shower....shattered windows in some places
[12:59] {dptl} http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/meteorite-falls-in-russias-chelyabinsk-region-damage-and-casualties-unclear/2013/02/15/7041c0c8-7732-11e2-b102-948929030e64_story.html
[13:00] {dptl} must be global worming...lol
[13:00] {dptl} warming
01[13:00] {Threei}  good morning dp
[13:00] {dptl} worming lol....
01[13:00] {Threei}  we spoke of it like couple hours ago, lol
01[13:01] {Threei}  I hope ese placed a stop on his BBRY
[13:01] {dptl} oh you did   :)
01[13:02] {Threei}  [10:39] {Threei} CNN anchor suggests meteor hurtling toward Earth could be a result of global warming
01[13:02] {Threei}  [10:39] {Threei} what???
01[13:02] {Threei}  [10:39] {nemo} yeah, what an idiot
01[13:02] {Threei}  [10:39] {Threei} are these people utterly and completely insane?
[13:03] {dptl} oh...missed that one
[13:03] {Will49} go back to bed?
[13:03] {Will49} :)
[13:08] {dptl} yeah ::)
[13:12] {dptl} DG long?
06[13:13] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a lunchtime breakout
[13:14] {dptl} lol isnt almost over?
[13:14] {patel} ha
[13:14] {thomcbell} long setup splk 35.25 break if hholding 35.15
01[13:14] {Threei}  do you much activity at this time of the day this week?
01[13:15] {Threei}  or you are looking at formal lunch hours and go by that?
[13:16] {scottie} AOL s .40 ?
01[13:17] {Threei}  yup, hl
[13:18] {scottie} in .40
[13:24] {Will49} in .39
[13:29] {scottie} ut +.10
[13:29] {scottie} out
[13:31] {Will49} practicing patience
[13:31] {scottie} still in will ?
[13:31] {Will49} yes
[13:32] {dino} psmi
[13:32] {Will49} my 1:1 is .29
[13:32] {dino} asgn sm l .95
[13:33] {dino} psmi sm s .50
[13:35] {Will49} so Vad..here's a newby question: you enter a .50 short break at .48....is your 1:1 then .38?
[13:35] {dptl} no
[13:35] {Will49} or still .40
[13:35] {dptl} still .40
[13:35] {Will49} hmmm
[13:36] {patel} I believe it is .40
[13:36] {Will49} tks guys
01[13:36] {Threei}  chart is a chart - pattern doesn't change because of your entry of which market knows nothing
[13:36] {patel} then again nothing I say is correct.
[13:36] {patel} lol
[13:37] {Will49} you are correct patel :)
[13:38] {Will49} wonder how much that little wrinkle has been costing me?
[13:39] {dino} cov psmi .ndaq
[13:39] {dptl} FDO?....or still lunch time?
[13:39] {dino} psmi cov .62 -.12
[13:39] {dino} ndaq spike, sheesh
[13:43] {scottie} NFX s .05 ?
01[13:43] {Threei}  not sure
[13:43] {scottie} ok
[13:44] {scottie} did you take fdo dp ?
[13:45] {dptl} out fdo +.10
[13:45] {scottie} gj dp
[13:45] {dptl} shesh DG
[13:48] {dino} that ccl is a trooper. all that bad publicity and its green
01[13:49] {Threei}  doesn't look like it's going to have any consequences
01[13:49] {Threei}  they said yesterday no cancellations, no decrease in bookings
[13:49] {dino} they announced .08/share hit, but it still holds
[13:50] {dino} prime example of trade what you see, not what you think
[13:53] {thomcbell} same with jcp today
[13:57] {dino} can can just imaging summer afternoons this year. scanners won't move
[13:57] {dino} imagine
[14:02] {dptl} AIG short?
01[14:03] {Threei}  can't tell
[14:03] {dptl} k
[14:04] {dptl} dg ...lol
[14:04] {dptl} all the way back
[14:09] {dptl} wow
[14:09] {patel} whoa DG
[14:10] {patel} FDO droppage
[14:10] {dptl} bad lunch must be they've had
[14:10] {nemo} "http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323701904578276491630786614.html?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_opinion
01[14:11] {Threei}  DG is sympathy to WMT
01[14:11] {Threei}  and WMT had bad Feb same-store sales
[14:11] {dptl} and they took jcp with them
01[14:11] {Threei}  same for FDO
[14:16] {dptl} KSS as well
[14:16] {thomcbell} i guess there is something about wmt sales
[14:16] {thomcbell} out there
[14:16] {patel} and HD, MCD, TGT, COST, DLTR,
[14:17] {patel} SBUX
[14:17] {patel} any play on GDX here
[14:17] {dptl} is that what couse market drop? wall mart news?
01[14:18] {Threei}  looks like
[14:18] {dptl} hmm....
[14:21] {patel} Wal-Mart (WMT) and peers Target (TGT), Costco (COST), Dollar General (DG) and Family Dollar (FDO) are moving lower after Bloomberg reported that Wal-Mart's February sales were called a "total disaster" in a leaked internal memo.
[14:24] {dptl} Will, still in aol?
[14:24] {nemo} that's funny because the XRT was leading this morning
01[14:25] {Threei}  Wal-Mart Stores Inc Exec: Feb same-store sales got off to the worst start the firm has seen in nearly seven years, attribute poor sales to payroll tax cut expiration
[14:25] {Will49} no...out with a gain of .12
[14:26] {dptl} nice.:)
[14:26] {scottie} gj will
[14:26] {Will49} took a lot of patience
[14:26] {scottie} nice patience too
[14:26] {scottie} lol
[14:26] {dptl} like fishing
[14:26] {Will49} as the Vad says...trade to learn
[14:28] {scottie} ok guys, long weekend starts here, see you all tuesday
[14:28] {Will49} take care scottie
01[14:28] {Threei}  take care scottie, have a good one
[14:28] {dino} cya scottie
[14:28] {dptl} see ya :)
[14:29] {scottie} will, dino, dp :)
[14:30] {dino} fdo sm l .95
01[14:30] {Threei}  WMY jump
01[14:30] {Threei}  DG and FDO are likely to follow
[14:31] {dino} out .30, +.35
[14:31] {patel} any play those
[14:31] {patel} DG hasnt jump that much
01[14:31] {Threei}  FDO did follow
01[14:31] {Threei}  DG starts
[14:31] {dino} just did patel
01[14:32] {Threei}  WMT CNBC indicates it received a statement calling certain internal communication as always not entirely accurate and will release sales numbers in regular interval
[14:35] {dino} dds sm l .07
[14:41] {dino} out dds .57, +.50
[14:42] {dino} thx for idea patel
[14:42] {patel} huh
[14:42] {patel} why my name mentioned
[14:42] {dino} you brought up walmart, so i checked others
01[14:43] {Threei}  ph, just shut up and take the credit
[14:43] {patel} haha
[14:43] {patel} you welcome
[14:43] {dptl} lol
[14:43] {patel} I took no trades :(
[14:43] {dino} traders trade
01[14:43] {Threei}  seriosuly man, what's wrong with you - you are being thanked, and you object? :)
[14:43] {patel} lol
01[14:43] {Threei}  "sure buddy, any time!"
01[14:44] {Threei}  this is one fragile market
01[14:44] {Threei}  remember our discussion recently,
01[14:44] {Threei}  about this climb
01[14:45] {Threei}  complacency getting widespread
01[14:45] {Threei}  and how it's likely to end very abruptly at some point.
01[14:45] {Threei}  I don't think we are there yet,
01[14:45] {Threei}  but this is how it's goijg to happen eventually
01[14:45] {Threei}  no warning shot, out of nowhere
[14:51] {dino} cg spike
[14:52] {dino} can't borrow
[14:57] {dptl} hal short?
01[14:57] {Threei}  .35... hl
[15:03] {dptl} stop .41
01[15:09] {Threei}  rofl
[15:09] {patel} ???
01[15:09] {Threei}  one of the buses carrying passengers from that doomed cruise ship broke down
[15:10] {patel} hahaha
01[15:10] {Threei}  can you imagine those guys?
[15:10] {patel} yeah i read about it this morning
[15:10] {patel} that was funny
01[15:10] {Threei}  "Again????"
[15:10] {Will49} shheeees
01[15:11] {Threei}  I envision myself in this situation... walking off a bus quietly, lifting my gaze to the sky and asking: so, going to tell me what I've done to you?
[15:12] {patel} 1:1 baby
[15:12] {Will49} yeah man
[15:13] {dino} fdo sm l .50 stop lod
01[15:13] {Threei}  there was old russian joke, about a guy with all thinkable disasters rasining on him, at some point droopping on his knees and screaming: why, why, what did I ever do to you??
01[15:14] {Threei}  heavens open, thunder, lighting, whole nine yards,
01[15:14] {Threei}  voice from above says musingly:
01[15:14] {Threei}  Look... I just really really dislike you...
[15:15] {dptl} lol..ya i know that one
[15:16] {dptl} out hal 1:1...i'll finish here
[15:16] {dino} gj
[15:16] {dptl} ty
[15:17] {patel} gj
[15:17] {Will49} tks dp...I'll hang in there for you
[15:18] {dptl} 6 for freaking 6....have a good weekend all see ya tue :)
[15:18] {Will49} excellent...see ya
[15:18] {patel} nice
[15:18] {patel} take care
01[15:18] {Threei}  wait!
[15:18] {dptl} oo
06[15:18] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large bottle of frozen vodka for celebration
01[15:18] {Threei}  now go
[15:19] {dino} wtfg dp!
[15:19] {Will49} haha
[15:19] {dptl} oh...ty..lol
01[15:19] {Threei}  you are very welcome
01[15:19] {Threei}  see what picky disciplined trading does?
01[15:19] {Threei}  wonders!
[15:19] {dptl} yes
[15:19] {dino} out fdo .68, +.18
[15:20] {dino} less is more dp
[15:21] {dptl} very true....cuting my activities in half
[15:21] {dptl} or more
01[15:21] {Threei}  nope
01[15:21] {Threei}  wrong approach
[15:22] {Will49} out HAL flat
01[15:22] {Threei}  here is the right one:
01[15:22] {Threei}  tailor your activity to the market
[15:22] {dptl} ye ye right...
01[15:22] {Threei}  trim down when nothing happens, ramp up when activity rises
01[15:22] {Threei}  swim with the current
[15:23] {dptl} yep...:)
[15:30] {jdetente} calling it a week. Have a great long weekend!
01[15:30] {Threei}  you toojd
[15:30] {Will49} Peace jd
[15:30] {Will49} don't take any cruises or buses
[15:30] {jdetente} haha
[15:31] {jdetente} just hitting the beach
[15:31] {Will49} where?
01[15:31] {Threei}  with what?
01[15:31] {Threei}  2x4?
[15:31] {jdetente} possibly
[15:31] {jdetente} Malibu area
[15:31] {Will49} nice
01[15:31] {Threei}  say hello to Charlie
[15:33] {jdetente} hopefully he has some nine gram rocks lol
01[15:34] {Threei}  Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) on Friday said he plans to introduce legislation that would bring back the military draft and extend it to women for the first time.
01[15:34] {Threei}  Rangel, who has pushed for years to bring back the draft, said the Pentagon�s decision to allow women to serve in combat means that they too should register for the Selective Service.
01[15:49] {Threei}  ok guys, thank you all
[15:49] {Will49} Another great day Vad...have a good rest everybody!
01[15:49] {Threei}  have a great long weekend
01[15:49] {Threei}  see you on Tuesday
[15:55] {patel} take care

Thursday, February 14, 2013

Feb 14 2014.

Love was in the air. Market loved us and we loved it. Very nice easy profitable day.


Session Time: Thu Feb 14 00:00:00 2013
[09:03] {patel} GM
01[09:03] {Threei}  patel :)
[09:03] {dino} gm
01[09:03] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:14] {scottie} good morning
[09:14] {nemo} HFT feeding on themselves:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-13/how-getco-went-hft-trading-giant-dwarf-and-raked-over-50-million-te-expenses-along-w
[09:14] {Will49} gm
01[09:14] {Threei}  scottie, will :)
[09:15] {cipher} gm
[09:15] {nemo} I think I need to drop the JD Honey, tastes too damn good
[09:15] {jdetente} gm
[09:16] {patel} You tried the Crown Royal Maple
01[09:16] {Threei}  jd :)
[09:16] {nemo} no, but saw that...
[09:17] {dptl} gm
01[09:17] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:19] {ese} morning
01[09:19] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:20] {ese} big merger...American airlines and Us Airways
01[09:21] {Threei}  now instead of one money-losing bad custimer service company we have one
01[09:21] {Threei}  umm
01[09:21] {Threei}  instead of two we have one
[09:23] {patel} I never fly AA or US Airways
[09:25] {dino} never say never
01[09:26] {Threei}  just wait till they all merge, what do you fly then :)
[09:26] {ese} nemo..........i'm not sure I understand that article ...who is GETCO
01[09:27] {Threei}  cipher :0
01[09:27] {Threei}  one of the biggest players in HFT/dark pools area ese
[09:28] {ese} call me naive i guess......what are dark pools
01[09:28] {Threei}  sorry, later... 2 min till open
[09:28] {ese} ok
01[09:29] {Threei}  what's with GDX gap up while market's down
01[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .60 break
[09:33] {cipher} disca l .16
[09:33] {cipher} out .47
[09:34] {dptl} .70 stop gdx?
01[09:34] {Threei}  .68
01[09:34] {Threei}  let's be pedantic
[09:34] {thomcbell} FB impressive strength
[09:35] {cipher} wfm s .94
[09:35] {cipher} cov.75
01[09:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  CLF  .60 break hl
01[09:36] {Threei}  no go GDX
[09:38] {cipher} nflx l .18
[09:38] {cipher} out .55
[09:39] {scottie} too fast for me
[09:39] {dptl} no fill clf
[09:39] {jdetente} in $ .62
01[09:40] {Threei}  1:1 for ya
[09:40] {ese} excellent clf call vad........saw it to late
[09:40] {cipher} alxn l .92
01[09:40] {Threei}  1:2, feel free to get out
[09:41] {jdetente} out 1:2 ty
[09:41] {cipher} out .23
[09:41] {patel} out at .80
[09:41] {patel} nice call Vad
01[09:41] {Threei}  :)
[09:41] {dino} alxn sm l .50
01[09:41] {Threei}  I get it ese... you took me off ignore but put on delay
[09:42] {Will49} my brain is only thing on delay this morning
[09:42] {ese} lol
[09:42] {Will49} took a sip of coffee and missed entry
01[09:42] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .55 break
01[09:42] {Threei}  If holds  .65
[09:43] {dino} stopped -.30
[09:43] {dino} alxn sm l .28
[09:44] {dino} out .42, +1.14
[09:44] {cipher} wtg dino
[09:44] {dino} lucky spike
[09:45] {cipher} yea that thing can move
01[09:45] {Threei}  no kidding
01[09:45] {Threei}  lol
[09:45] {dino} definition of pulp!
[09:47] {cipher} ALXN S .92
01[09:47] {Threei}  big size bid at .55 held LVS so fat but if/when it gives up, should drop fast
[09:47] {cipher} cov .51 +.41
01[09:48] {Threei}  that WAS fast, wasn't it
[09:48] {dptl} what the....didt get it
[09:48] {Will49} no kidden
[09:48] {jdetente} darn it
[09:48] {Will49} missed again
[09:48] {scottie} too fast
01[09:48] {Threei}  1:2 in a hurried rushed rapid fast hurry
[09:48] {patel} got filled at .53
[09:48] {jdetente} gj
01[09:49] {Threei}  nice patel
01[09:49] {Threei}  I looked at the scanner for 1/654 of a second
01[09:49] {Threei}  and that was enough to miss it
[09:50] {Will49} patel is a top gun
[09:51] {nemo} cstr into gap
[09:52] {jdetente} wow ALXN
[09:52] {dino} alxn sm l .06
[09:52] {jdetente} volatility king today
[09:52] {dino} out .09, +1.03
[09:52] {nemo} not according to the vxx
01[09:52] {Threei}  he means ALXN nemo
[09:52] {jdetente} no, I mean ALXN is volitility king for the day
01[09:52] {Threei}  wake up
[09:53] {jdetente} what he said lol
[09:53] {dino} need volitility to make cake
[09:53] {patel} any read on WIN
01[09:53] {Threei}  flatlined totally
06[09:54] * nemo detente in pen or pencil?
[09:54] {dino} out exch swing from yesterday .10, +.85
01[09:54] {Threei}  it's not a very good mover... even with this gap not much room for profit
[09:54] {patel} okay.
[09:55] {ese} am day late dollar short today........everything i click on has already made a move....
[09:55] {dino} better than my yesterday, i was just wrong
[09:56] {thomcbell} bbry 13.40 break if holding 13.50  Vad?
[09:56] {thomcbell} invalidated anyway
01[09:56] {Threei}  broke .50, but I still like the idea
01[09:56] {Threei}  let's just reclibarate it
01[09:56] {Threei}  ad double top,
01[09:56] {Threei}  break of .50 if holding .60
01[09:57] {Threei}  ad = as
01[09:57] {Threei}  you are out LVS patel?
[09:57] {patel} yes
[09:58] {patel} 1:2
01[09:58] {Threei}  ok, cool
01[09:59] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .40 break
01[09:59] {Threei}  If holds  .50
[09:59] {cipher} tfm s .52
[10:00] {ese} L bbry .52
[10:01] {thomcbell} wow lvs dont look vad
01[10:01] {Threei}  I will not
01[10:02] {Threei}  ever
[10:03] {cipher} cov tfm .25 +.27
[10:05] {dptl} kbh .85 long?
01[10:06] {Threei}  not sure...
01[10:06] {Threei}  chart is dwecent but a range is a bit too narrow
[10:08] {nemo} oil names are ripping
[10:09] {cipher} ALXN S .52
[10:09] {scottie} CCL s .80 ?
[10:09] {cipher} COV .00 +.52
[10:10] {scottie} I guess not
[10:10] {Will49} :)
01[10:10] {Threei}  lol
[10:11] {Will49} I talk to myself too scottie
[10:11] {Will49} outloud
[10:11] {ese} bbry you sloth..........get a move on
01[10:11] {Threei}  looking at it, scottie - would have been no anyway,
[10:11] {scottie} lol
01[10:12] {Threei}  no consolidation at all, dropped into .80, haven';t has a chance to make it a valid support to break
01[10:12] {Threei}  compare it to .90 break a few min earlier
[10:12] {scottie} I see tks
[10:13] {cipher} AMZN L.70
01[10:13] {Threei} Long Setup:  BP  42 break
[10:13] {cipher} out .00 +.30
01[10:13] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[10:13] {ese} i'm getting the..."I could be on the wrong side of this trade"....feeling
01[10:14] {Threei}  what can I say ese... this feeling is natural for any married man on Feb 14
[10:14] {jdetente} lol!
[10:14] {scottie} haha
[10:14] {jdetente} now that is the joke of the day
[10:14] {Will49} true dat
[10:14] {ese} rotflol
[10:15] {ese} definitely joke of the day
[10:15] {patel} lol
[10:15] {cipher} mnst l .96
01[10:17] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  53 break
01[10:17] {Threei}  If holds  .10
[10:18] {dino} out clf swing from yesterday at .20, +.95
[10:18] {Will49} jd runs out to buy valentine card
[10:22] {patel} BP still valid right
01[10:22] {Threei}  yes
[10:23] {ese} out bbry .86 +.34 on 3k........thats my day.......gotta go to the dentist....see ya in a couple of hours maybe
01[10:23] {Threei}  wtg ese
[10:23] {Will49} open wide
[10:24] {patel} gj ese
[10:24] {scottie} ese
[10:24] {ese} ya was a good one
[10:29] {scottie} half out tks Vad
01[10:29] {Threei}  1:1
01[10:29] {Threei}  yw
[10:30] {patel} half out tks VAD
[10:30] {dptl} me too half out ty
01[10:30] {Threei}  :)
[10:30] {Will49} yes me too...tks Vad
[10:30] {scottie} adjusting to slow grind up day ? :)
01[10:30] {Threei}  very clean setup, and unlike some of earlier ones, easy to get
01[10:30] {Threei}  pretty much scottie :)
[10:30] {cipher} alxn l .02
[10:30] {Will49} not a moment too soon
[10:31] {patel} would love to see BP fill the gap today.
01[10:32] {Threei}  someone who couldn't get in BP would be ungit to judge speed contest between a turtle and a snail
01[10:32] {Threei}  unfit
[10:32] {patel} lol
[10:33] {dptl} lvs still valid right?
[10:33] {scottie} stop .05 ?
01[10:34] {Threei}  LVS yes
[10:34] {cipher} out alxn .74 -.28
[10:34] {cipher} out mnst .16 +.19
[10:35] {dino} mktx
[10:36] {cipher} alxn l.89
01[10:36] {Threei}  scottie, let's trail to .04 after it recrosses .10 again
[10:37] {scottie} ok
[10:39] {cipher} out alxn .28 +.39
[10:49] {scottie} SKX l 22 ?
[10:50] {jdetente} let's go BP .02 more
01[10:50] {Threei}  a bit too thin, SKX
[10:50] {scottie} ok
01[10:52] {Threei}  1 cent
01[10:52] {Threei}  duirect hit on 1:2
01[10:52] {Threei}  -u
[10:52] {jdetente} there it is nice
[10:52] {scottie} out +.19 tks Vad :)
01[10:52] {Threei}  yw
[10:52] {Will49} yooha!
[10:52] {jdetente} keeping a quarter if we can hit 1:3
[10:53] {jdetente} trailing to .10
01[10:53] {Threei}  .09
[10:53] {jdetente} yes .09 I mean
[10:54] {dptl} met .50 long?
01[10:55] {Threei}  yes
[11:00] {scottie} HAS l .80 ?
01[11:01] {Threei}  nah, time is getting out of the range for this kind of plays
[11:01] {scottie} ok
[11:04] {dptl} yum .90 short?
01[11:05] {Threei}  yup
[11:06] {dino} enoc spike
01[11:06] {Threei}  actually, .93 break
01[11:06] {Threei}  see big bid?
[11:06] {dptl} in .91
[11:06] {dino} sm s .15
[11:06] {jdetente} out in full BP. thanks again Vad
01[11:06] {Threei}  yw
[11:07] {patel} missed it
[11:07] {patel} jumped to fast
[11:07] {dino} bit of blood alxn
01[11:10] {Threei}  LVS
01[11:10] {Threei}  still valid
01[11:11] {Threei}  or I shall say, valid again
[11:11] {dptl} half out yum
[11:11] {patel} nice dp
[11:11] {Will49} yummy dp
01[11:11] {Threei}  yummy
01[11:11] {Threei}  ugh
01[11:12] {Threei}  will beat me to a pulp
[11:12] {scottie} half out yum, tks dp
[11:12] {dptl} :)
[11:12] {Will49} lol
01[11:12] {Threei}  the only consolation I have is, it was a bad pun
[11:12] {Will49} fast on the comments slow on entrys:)
[11:12] {Will49} me
[11:12] {Will49} entries
01[11:13] {Threei}  lol
[11:13] {dptl} stop to .91
01[11:13] {Threei}  stop it will... no such thing ads perfection in typing on this board
01[11:13] {Threei}  ads = as
01[11:13] {Threei}  see? :)
[11:13] {Will49} ok
01[11:14] {Threei}  if you start typing perfectly, we will all suffer of horrible inferiority complex
[11:14] {dptl} out
[11:15] {Will49} i won't letthat happen
01[11:16] {Threei}  pliz dontt
[11:16] {Will49} lol
[11:20] {dptl} cnx .95 long?
[11:21] {dptl} in .96
[11:22] {dptl} out half
[11:22] {scottie} gj dp
[11:22] {patel} nice dp
[11:22] {scottie} I hesitated a bit too long, and then it was gone
[11:22] {patel} haha
[11:22] {patel} same here
[11:23] {patel} by the time I decided I would do HL it was gone.
[11:25] {dptl} out
[11:26] {Will49} Vad, a sensitive (for you) question
[11:26] {dino} enoc stop -.15
[11:26] {Will49} Is HFT affecting the speed with which a thick stock will run after a break?
01[11:26] {Threei}  quite possible
01[11:27] {Threei}  providing HFT trades this stock
01[11:27] {Threei}  most of the names are not in HFT sphere of interest
[11:27] {Will49} I seem to be missing entries more often on the big stocks
01[11:28] {Threei}  LVS is about to trigger
01[11:28] {Threei}  not sure what "big stock" means
[11:29] {dptl} in lvs
[11:29] {patel} in lvs
[11:29] {Will49} in
01[11:29] {Threei}  1:1
[11:29] {dptl} out half
01[11:30] {Threei}  nice and easy
[11:33] {dptl} out
[11:33] {dptl} is it scalp only day or what?
[11:34] {scottie} didn't take my bid at .90, out flat
[11:34] {dptl} no i got .90
[11:34] {patel} i took .91
[11:35] {patel} oout flat on the rest
[11:35] {dptl} ye
[11:35] {dptl} it'll drop now
[11:35] {jdetente} watch it go 1:2 now...lol
[11:36] {jdetente} ce'st la vie
[11:36] {scottie} BHI s .30 m?
[11:36] {scottie} -m
[11:38] {scottie} wow forget it
[11:39] {dptl} here it is lvs...oh well
[11:40] {Will49} out +.23
[11:40] {dptl} heh Will...nice
[11:40] {scottie} gj will :)
[11:41] {Will49} best one in a long while
[11:41] {scottie} you had the guts to stay in, great
[11:41] {dptl} coh .20 short?
[11:41] {Will49} actually missed first 1:1 hit
[11:42] {Will49} so it was error instead of guts
[11:42] {scottie} lol
[11:44] {scottie} CCL dt ?
01[11:45] {Threei}  formally yes
01[11:45] {Threei}  for a trade, not sure
01[11:45] {Threei}  too narrow
[11:45] {scottie} ok
[11:46] {dptl} coh?
01[11:46] {Threei}  yes
01[11:46] {Threei}  hl
01[11:46] {Threei}  lol
[11:49] {Will49} does coh need to hold .25?
[11:49] {cipher} ALXN S .76
[11:50] {dptl} .30 Will...i think
[11:50] {Will49} tks
01[11:51] {Threei}  yeah
[11:51] {Will49} see dp, after my biggest win I'll even go after your calls:)
[11:52] {dptl} :)
[11:52] {Will49} sorry dp, that was a nemo type comment
01[11:53] {Threei}  just apply the right procedure of profit preservation
[11:53] {Will49} yes sir!
[11:53] {nemo} no...I would never go after his calls
[11:53] {dptl} lol
[11:53] {Will49} but you'd make a snide comment
[11:54] {nemo} accurately snide perhaps
[11:54] {Will49} now there's another snide comment
[11:54] {Will49} by me
[11:54] {nemo} kindergarten level perhaps
[11:55] {Will49} ok ok
[11:55] {Will49} I give
[11:55] {Will49} bested by a pro
01[11:55] {Threei}  don't snide the snider
[11:55] {nemo} what, step in the ring by accident
[11:55] {Will49} just wiping off the blood now
[11:56] {nemo} wanna' step into the prison laundry?
[11:56] {Will49} now you're talkin
[11:56] {dptl} ntap
[11:56] {dptl} .36 long?
[11:56] {cipher} cov alxn .45 +.31
01[11:56] {Threei}  hl NTAP
[11:57] {Will49} i only half like it too
[11:57] {nemo} lunchtime break,
[11:57] {nemo} btw...keep RAX on your watch list
[11:57] {Will49} sheeesh. that LVS win has me all charged up
[11:59] {Will49} gonna step away and take a shower, see you later
[11:59] {Will49} :)
[11:59] {nemo} TMI
[11:59] {dptl} yeah lol
[12:00] {dptl} invalidated ntap
[12:15] {cipher} ssys l .15
[12:16] {cipher} out .47
[12:23] {dptl} DB?
01[12:24] {Threei}  hl
[12:24] {dptl} long? or .50 short?
01[12:25] {Threei}  man...
[12:25] {dptl} lol
[12:25] {jdetente} lunch time trades....
[12:25] {jdetente} why you want to do it?
01[12:25] {Threei}  next time you as "DB?" I'll answer "875"
01[12:25] {Threei}  you ask "what 875", I"ll ask "what DB?"
[12:26] {dptl} thats why i ask wasnt sure what side
01[12:26] {Threei}  so you want me to do double work... see if there is a setup AND determnine which one
01[12:27] {Threei}  I hate my life
[12:29] {cipher} SSYS S .62
[12:32] {cipher} out .30 +.32
01[12:34] {Threei}  COH again
[12:34] {jdetente} what was the COH call again. I got bumped out of the room and don't have it...
01[12:34] {Threei}  .20 break short hl
[12:35] {jdetente} thanks
01[12:35] {Threei}  not really a call, rather one of those excchanges that for a side observer look like typical ay in asylum:
01[12:36] {Threei}  [11:46] {dptl} coh?
01[12:36] {Threei}  [11:46] {Threei} yes
01[12:36] {Threei}  [11:46] {Threei} hl
[13:02] {cipher} alxn s .58
[13:04] {patel} everyone is so quiet
[13:05] {Will49} concentrating
[13:05] {Will49} finger on the trigger
[13:05] {scottie} keep quiet you guys, you woke me up
01[13:05] {Threei}  I am concentrating on my attempts to concentrate
[13:05] {Will49} :)
[13:05] {patel} that woke everyone up
[13:06] {patel} just making sure the chatroom is working
01[13:06] {Threei}  and this incessant chatter breaks my concentration
[13:07] {cipher} cov ALXN .25 +.33
[13:07] {dptl} stopped coh
[13:07] {patel} do anyone in here trade premarket?
[13:08] {cipher} not me
[13:09] {cipher} SSYS keeps dumping
[13:10] {cipher} where do you see it going nemo?
01[13:11] {Threei}  premarket sometimes has some tradeable opportunities although risk is much higher and in most cases it's not wirth it. But when you feel that you want 24/7 market - that's when you need to call 1-800-GAMBLE-HELP
[13:12] {jdetente} pre and post are the wild wild west
[13:12] {jdetente} especially during earning
[13:12] {jdetente} s
[13:12] {cipher} make a killing or lose your shirt
[13:12] {cipher} no thanks
[13:13] {cipher} plenty of opportunities during the day
[13:13] {patel} read on CTL
01[13:17] {Threei}  none...
[13:18] {dptl} pay long?
01[13:18] {Threei}  other than C as in cedar, T as in... etc?
01[13:18] {Threei}  pay whom?
[13:19] {nemo} sorry stepped away
[13:20] {nemo} give me a few minutes cipher
[13:23] {cipher} k
[13:25] {dptl} GMCR .10 short if holds .20
[13:27] {dptl} oh..though it broke got .10
[13:27] {nemo} 71 area has support then 70.60ish and 69.65 with the caveat of the whole number natural support
[13:27] {cipher} thx
[13:28] {dptl} stopped
01[13:29] {Threei}  I would call your eagerness to tarde and trade and trade with no pause for air unstoppable... but it would be wrong wrod
[13:30] {nemo} 71.58 is s2 on the daily with VWAP above 73.10, so you could get a bottom here, but I would definitely want to see a trend break cipher
01[13:31] {Threei}  totally random moves everywhere for the last hour or two... no trend, no drive, just bobbing listlessly
01[13:31] {Threei}  why push and take one papercut after another?
[13:33] {dptl} you right Vad....i have to review my whole trading....i am not going anywhere, just getting more frustrating ...
01[13:33] {Threei}  we spoke about it not more than 2 days ago... it's like one good day erases your memory of what made previous days bad
01[13:34] {Threei}  don't review your whole trading... pinpoint those bad habits that undermine your performance and get rid of them
01[13:34] {Threei}  you have solid basic understanding
01[13:34] {Threei}  you have no solid basic self-control
[13:36] {dptl} yeah...it's like not me most of the time...and when i wake up it's usualy to late....over and over again....dont know how to get rid of it
01[13:38] {Threei}  why don't you give a Taoist Trader second run, this time really reading and thinking how it applies to you
01[13:39] {Threei}  first time you went through motion
01[13:39] {Threei}  as if it were a required reading in school... done, over, fulfilled obligation, can forget
[13:41] {dptl} i didt read it yet...dont even have it, should get it probably
01[13:42] {Threei}  ummm
01[13:42] {Threei}  you do
[13:43] {cipher} ssys s.40
01[13:43] {Threei}  check your e-mail
[13:44] {thomcbell} hi guys had to step out for a bit
[13:45] {cipher} cov .10 +.30
[13:47] {nemo} cipher...wtf
[13:47] {thomcbell} bbry unreal move
[13:48] {cipher} I know nemo... shoot me pls
01[13:48] {Threei}  careful cipher, nemo doesn't make you ask twice
[13:49] {nemo} too messy, I'll just garotte you...nice and quick
[13:50] {nemo} ese get's the Mongolian technique...that's frickin' painful
[13:50] {cipher} so ssys going to 70
[13:51] {nemo} this .60 area was a next possibility, then you'll get a whole number test at 70, one would think, but 71 didn't, and then 69.60ish
[13:51] {nemo} that's one messy daily though, sheesh
[13:52] {cipher} yep
[13:53] {nemo} some reason I think it bouttoms out in the 68-69 area
[13:54] {nemo} whaddya think cipehr, almost to the penny it bounces  ;-)
[13:54] {cipher} wow that was quick
[13:55] {cipher} no chance
[13:55] {nemo} look at that
[13:55] {cipher} had to wait with live order
[13:55] {nemo} hehehehehehehe
[13:55] {nemo} yep
[13:55] {nemo} too frickin' funny, huh?
[13:55] {cipher} you're a psychic
[13:56] {nemo} no, just read the chart
[13:56] {nemo} psycho....one could make an argument
[13:56] {nemo} ask will
[13:56] {Will49} oh yeah
[13:56] {nemo} would you like to comment Will?
[13:57] {Will49} my lips are sealed
[13:57] {Will49} our secret nemo
[13:57] {nemo} ;-)
[13:58] {cipher} SSYS L.81
[13:58] {Will49} if I could trade like you nemo, I'd gladly don a straight jacket
[13:58] {cipher} out .32 +.53
[13:58] {nemo} vwap decending from 72.70, I would expect it to finally meet up somewhere in between
[13:59] {Will49} no disrespect Vad. Gotta learn your system cold
[13:59] {cipher} damn should have listened to nemo
[14:00] {cipher} too soon again
[14:00] {nemo} well, I would have partialled where you did, but this is the test area of old support, gets through, it gets to vwap
[14:01] {nemo} btw will...don't confuse my mapping of a chart with trading two different things
[14:01] {Will49} yeah?
[14:02] {nemo} is that a question, or a confirmation of my statement
[14:02] {nemo} ?
[14:02] {Will49} question
[14:03] {Will49} you didn't take that SSYS trade?
[14:03] {nemo} trading is entering and managing an actual trade...all I did was analyze the chart, which is a valid skill, and then point out places of inflection
[14:03] {Will49} I see
[14:09] {nemo} Now cipher is right,  no way to get long on that at the bottom and it actually bottomed .05 above my target, so if you were short, you would have had to have a cover order in place, or a buy order to go long.
[14:10] {dptl} clf .45 short?
01[14:11] {Threei}  not sure
01[14:11] {Threei}  chart is right, market is not really clear
[14:12] {nemo} plus you have the open and close at the .30ish level, not much room
[14:13] {nemo} talking about clf on that last comment
01[14:13] {Threei}  right
[14:15] {cipher} XONE L .86
[14:15] {nemo} wow, fresh meat?
[14:16] {cipher} out .00 +.14
[14:16] {cipher} wow alxn
01[14:18] {Threei}  Facebook: Tiger Global Mgmt has disposed of its stakes of 11.8M FB shares and 700K GOOG shares - quarterly holdings filing as of Dec 31
[14:26] {nemo} ssys went up and kissed vwap and then dropped to support
01[14:27] {Threei}  one powerful kiss that vwap has...
[14:28] {jdetente} kiss of death
[14:28] {Will49} a kiss is still a kiss
01[14:28] {Threei}  by any other name...
[14:29] {Will49} that's a rose silly :)
01[14:29] {Threei}  oops
01[14:29] {Threei}  roses, kisses... can you guess what day it is?
[14:29] {jdetente} The Hallmark Holiday
[14:29] {Will49} oh yea...i'm married
01[14:29] {Threei}  lol
[14:29] {dino} apa
[14:30] {nemo} yeah, Hallmark extortion day #1 for the year
[14:33] {patel} KORS dropping
[14:33] {nemo} should bounce here
[14:35] {jdetente} DDD has a lot of action here
[14:39] {dino} xone, ssys too. thats what happens when obummer gets behind you
[14:40] {jdetente} https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjQrRvJ8V1Os8wAvp3EquYMYLIT4b17aQrACiCsX14YcDIDHMDEyydHCNjlI0bOswJIY5XqBlvlT8Ax24bufToUrSSK5Qrh70vXx6wYyYubUoiso5j9AkaYINpxyUC0w7-PxeOKJrw9U0s/s1600/Obama+mad-magazine-cover.jpg
01[14:41] {Threei}  lol
[14:42] {scottie} What, Me Worry ?
[14:48] {patel} CCL earnings cut by GS
[14:49] {patel} they have more issues than earnings cut.
[14:52] {dino} pr nightmare
[14:54] {dptl} WLT .40 short if stays under .50?
01[14:54] {Threei}  hl
[15:00] {patel} nice call dp
[15:00] {dptl} half out
[15:00] {scottie} gj dp
01[15:00] {Threei}  see? even looking at Taoist Trader title page helps
[15:01] {patel} lol
[15:01] {dptl} i have to find the way to be consistant...
01[15:05] {Threei}  what to find? be consistent
[15:05] {dptl} :) ye that
01[15:05] {Threei}  do what works over and over
01[15:05] {Threei}  stop doing what doesn't work
[15:05] {patel} Does the Taoist Trader show u setups or is it just a book
01[15:05] {Threei}  think what constitutes formwr and latter
01[15:05] {Threei}  setups are in 111 Trades
01[15:06] {Threei}  and you call it "just a book" once again, I'll hire a professional hitman
01[15:06] {Threei}  it's THE book
[15:06] {patel} lol, sorry
[15:07] {dptl} should just take a break from 9am (pst) to 10:30
01[15:07] {Threei}  nope... can't be forgiven
[15:09] {dptl} out
[15:10] {dptl} same set up again may be?
[15:11] {dptl} .40 break?
01[15:12] {Threei}  hmmm
01[15:12] {Threei}  let it consolidate
01[15:12] {Threei}  can't tell on the go
01[15:12] {Threei} Long Setup:  PAY  .80 break
01[15:12] {Threei}  If holds  .70
01[15:14] {Threei}  that was easy
[15:15] {patel} scalp
[15:15] {patel} or 1:2
01[15:15] {Threei}  can't tell
[15:16] {dptl} now wlt?
[15:16] {dptl} out pay ty
01[15:16] {Threei}  yw
[15:16] {thomcbell} bbry short setup $15 break if holding 15.12 Vad
01[15:16] {Threei}  WLT, not sure this time... it starts looking to me like .50 long rather
[15:17] {cipher} alxn l .72
01[15:17] {Threei}  I like it
01[15:17] {Threei}  little cute double top
[15:18] {patel} looks good
[15:18] {patel} whole number is coming up
[15:18] {cipher} out 1/2 .05 +33
[15:18] {thomcbell} could be two sided too with 15.12 long break
[15:24] {cipher} out rest alxn .00 +.28
[15:27] {dino} gj
[15:27] {cipher} ty
[15:28] {scottie} TEL l 41 if holds .95 ?
01[15:29] {Threei}  yes
[15:30] {thomcbell} nice one there scottie
[15:30] {cipher} alxn l .13
[15:30] {scottie} tks but it didn't work yet :)
[15:30] {patel} PAY get over 33
01[15:31] {Threei}  but it doesn't matter scottie
01[15:31] {Threei}  it's a good setup
01[15:31] {Threei}  if it fails, it won't make it any worse
[15:31] {scottie} partial fill only
[15:32] {thomcbell} yes I agree Vad - when you get  into Vad's methodology you start calling patterns beautiful
[15:33] {cipher} out alxn .25
01[15:35] {Threei}  WLT 1:1
[15:36] {patel} come on cross 33
01[15:36] {Threei}  1:2
01[15:38] {Threei}  TEL slowly works
[15:43] {dptl} bbry vali stil short?
[15:43] {dptl} valid
01[15:43] {Threei}  oh yes
01[15:43] {Threei}  more than ever
01[15:44] {Threei}  time's running out, profit is significant for longs, temptation to take it grows
[15:44] {dino} apa new lod
01[15:44] {Threei}  market drops
01[15:44] {Threei}  if that's not a moment to short, there is none at all
[15:45] {dptl} in
[15:47] {dptl} .11 stop
[15:47] {jdetente} dang no shares available to short
[15:48] {dptl} i took last?
01[15:48] {Threei}  or you are with diff brokers
[15:48] {jdetente} I'm with IB...
[15:50] {dptl} come on..no time
[15:52] {scottie} TEL stop to .99
[15:56] {scottie} time's running short, out TEL +.05
[15:56] {dino} calling it a day, thx all
[15:56] {Will49} another good day, tks everybody
[15:56] {nemo} my pleasure Will
[15:57] {scottie} 40 winners, no losers, tks for the day Vad :)
[15:57] {Will49} be good nemo
[15:57] {jdetente} Good trading. Gn all
[15:57] {scottie} not 40. 4
01[15:57] {Threei}  40?
01[15:57] {Threei}  wow
01[15:57] {Threei}  :)
[15:57] {nemo} define "good"?
01[15:57] {Threei}  thank you all, have a great day
[15:57] {scottie} gn
01[15:57] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:58] {jdetente} @ nemo. I should say profitable
[15:58] {patel} take care everyone
[15:58] {dptl} stopped -07
[15:59] {dptl} gn all
[15:59] {nemo} I was talking to Will telling me to be "good"

Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Feb 13 2013

After brief interruption, we are back to our usual programming with nicely profitable day. FB long, LVS short, a few more... while stops were very tight and couldn't spoil the day at all.


Session Time: Wed Feb 13 00:00:00 2013
[08:42] {thomcbell} gm
01[08:42] {Threei}  tbell :)
[08:51] {patel} GM
01[08:52] {Threei}  patel :)
[08:56] {patel} Where is everyone?
01[08:57] {Threei}  sound asleep?
[08:57] {patel} I had to get up and get to work.
01[08:57] {Threei}  most come in on last 15 - 20 min
[08:58] {patel} Let's see how the presidential stocks moved this morning.
01[08:59] {Threei}  like what?
[08:59] {patel} MAN, RHI, MHH - job related stocks
[09:00] {patel} LMT, NOC, RTN, GD - defense related
[09:00] {patel} no activity in none of those stocks.
01[09:00] {Threei}  nope
01[09:00] {Threei}  nothing material happened, another propaganda speech
[09:01] {patel} agreed
01[09:02] {Threei}  poor CLF
[09:04] {patel} CLF has strong support at 31.12 and 28.01
[09:05] {dino} gm
01[09:06] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:07] {patel} RAX
[09:13] {ese} mornin
01[09:13] {Threei}  ese :)
01[09:13] {Threei}  http://www.salon.com/2013/02/06/is_facebook_over/
01[09:13] {Threei}  you'll like this one ese
[09:14] {jdetente} Good morning!
01[09:14] {Threei}  jd :)
[09:17] {Will49} good morning
01[09:17] {Threei}  will :)
[09:18] {scottie} good morning
01[09:18] {Threei}  scottie :)
01[09:18] {Threei}  dino, cipher... CLF for ya
[09:19] {ese} well well well.........i fall under all of those categorys as to why I would never use it........have never been on it .....never will
[09:19] {nemo} what did I mis
[09:19] {nemo} miss?
[09:20] {ese} what that means at this point is that the NSA(ultra secret spy people) don't have my personel information
[09:20] {cipher} gm
01[09:20] {Threei}  cipher :)
01[09:21] {Threei}  why would we tell you that nemo... we hurried to discuss it all while you were away
[09:23] {nemo} you're kidding, right ese?
[09:23] {ese} about facebook......have hated the thing ever since it came out
01[09:23] {Threei}  many did, and do...
01[09:24] {Threei}  but if you think yiou have privacy since you haven't been there... try to google yourself :)
[09:24] {ese} even more so when i read that NY times (I think...don't quote me) about him giving up peoples personel info to the nsa
01[09:25] {Threei}  and I strongly disagree with you about hating facebook... I hate all social networks indiscriminately
[09:25] {ese} lol
01[09:25] {Threei}  I don't know why you'd make an exception for them :)
[09:25] {dptl} gm
01[09:25] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:25] {ese} ddddddddddddpppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:26] {dptl} :)
[09:27] {ese} and.............I only disclose all my personel....deep dark secrets here on this board..........
01[09:32] {Threei}  nice bounce CLF
[09:32] {nemo} DE wtf
01[09:33] {Threei}  Hearing chatter G7 may be considering potential restrictions on US treasury purchases by Japan
01[09:33] {Threei}  wow
01[09:33] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .65 break
[09:33] {nemo} currency wars
01[09:34] {Threei}  If holds  .75
01[09:34] {Threei}  yeah but G7 telling a country what it can and can't buy?
[09:35] {ese} that is a wow
01[09:35] {Threei}  1:1
[09:35] {scottie} +.10 tks Vad
[09:35] {ese} they've been on facebook too long
01[09:35] {Threei}  :)
[09:38] {cc_8} Ahead of Groupon’s fourth-quarter report later this month, Sterne Agee upgrades the online discount purveyor to buy and sets a $9 price target.
[09:38] {cc_8} Among the companies with shares expected to actively trade in Wednesday’s session are Comcast Corp. (CMCSK, CMCSA), Bankrate Inc. (RATE) and Trulia Inc. (TRLA).
01[09:38] {Threei}  CLF...
01[09:39] {Threei}  looks like another sharp dive is coming but should hold .50
01[09:39] {Threei}  where it should be a long
01[09:39] {Threei}  not for faint heart
01[09:39] {Threei}  dino/cipher stock
[09:40] {nemo} Up Up and Away goes the market
01[09:43] {Threei}  here comes the dive
[09:43] {ese} clf is going to be a buy at some point........
01[09:44] {Threei}  [09:39] {Threei} looks like another sharp dive is coming but should hold .50
01[09:44] {Threei}  [09:39] {Threei} where it should be a long
01[09:44] {Threei} Long Setup:  CLF  .60 break sm
01[09:44] {Threei}  If holds  .45
01[09:44] {Threei}  for fast traders only
01[09:45] {Threei}  takes too long
01[09:45] {Threei}  this kind should bounce faster
01[09:46] {Threei}  no go
[09:46] {ese} stupid man........it beats revs and earnings and raises out look and is dn 6 bills
[09:46] {dino} htsi sm s .06
[09:47] {dino} secondary ese
01[09:47] {Threei}  noticed secondaries ese?
[09:47] {ese} opps...what'd i miss
01[09:47] {Threei}  mixed securities of indeterminate amount
[09:48] {dino} also huge write off and decreaesed div
[09:48] {dino} nice spellig
[09:48] {dino} lol
[09:48] {ese} hmmmmmmmm
01[09:48] {Threei}  more like suddden seizure, lol
[09:49] {cc_8} Overnight action: Australian stocks hit 34-month high; CFTC delays swaps vote; Comcast’s night of big spending; Nikkei’s rise fueling Japanese IPOs; Wheat prices hit seven-month low.
01[09:49] {Threei} Long Setup:  GE  .25 break
01[09:49] {Threei}  If holds  .20
01[09:50] {Threei}  aggressive for .30
[09:50] {dino} htsi stop -.21
01[09:51] {Threei}  Invalidated
[09:52] {dino} rkus sm l .75 pulp
[09:53] {dptl} dish long?
01[09:54] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .10 break hl
01[09:54] {Threei}  If holds  .20
[09:54] {ese} L akam .53
01[09:54] {Threei}  DISH, yes
01[09:55] {Threei}  good chart in all time frames
01[09:57] {Threei}  keep stop under .90, and don't scalp it
01[09:58] {Threei}  it can do 1:4 withy any SPY help
01[10:00] {Threei}  no go CAT
[10:00] {dptl} stopped cat
01[10:00] {Threei}  1:1 DISH
[10:02] {patel} Whipsaw
01[10:03] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .80 break
01[10:03] {Threei}  If holds  .70
01[10:04] {Threei}  target 1:2
[10:04] {dino} rkus stop -.35
[10:07] {dino} clf sm l .00 stop lod
[10:10] {dptl} stil .70 stop fb?
01[10:10] {Threei}  .74
[10:12] {dino} wtf rkus, stops me and runs .80
[10:13] {ese} just lookin at that double bottom ...rkus
01[10:14] {Threei}  1:1
[10:14] {dptl} out half ty
[10:14] {scottie} half out tks Vad
01[10:15] {Threei}  let's see if it gathers enough audacity for the second leg
01[10:15] {Threei}  DISH lost the plot
01[10:15] {Threei}  too bad, had great potential
01[10:15] {Threei}  but as jd says... we have more money after this trade than we did before
01[10:17] {Threei}  oh well
[10:17] {scottie} out fb
01[10:17] {Threei}  again... as jd says :)
[10:18] {dptl} out
01[10:18] {Threei}  poor BBRY
01[10:18] {Threei}  this is not a daily chart of an instant winner
[10:19] {ese} am watchin it............up and dn like a rockeet for sure
[10:19] {ese} lots of indecision there
[10:20] {ese} analyst price targets of 22
[10:21] {dino} ezch drop
[10:21] {dino} clf stop
[10:21] {scottie} MRO l 35 ?
[10:21] {ese} ezch a sketch?
[10:22] {dino} ezch sm l .70 pulp
01[10:22] {Threei}  I doubt it, MRO... doesn't look energetic enough
[10:23] {scottie} ok
[10:24] {ese} do it akam..............you know you want to provide me with retirement income.......
[10:24] {dptl} aig?
[10:24] {ese} good boy
[10:24] {ese} you as well dp.........good boy
[10:24] {dino} ezch stop.
[10:25] {dino} i suck today, taking break
01[10:25] {Threei}  AIG worth a shot but most likely scalp only, maybe even less than 10 cents
[10:25] {ese} i've had days like that dino............plenty of days like that
01[10:26] {Threei}  I don't know what you are talking guys, I never ever ever had days like that
01[10:26] {Threei}  ever
01[10:26] {Threei}  at all
[10:26] {ese} ?
[10:26] {scottie} JCI l 32 ?
[10:26] {dino} bitch of it is 2 of 4 stops were rinses
[10:26] {ese} ohhhhhhhhh................your just kidding
01[10:27] {Threei}  after little pullback or some more connsolidation, JCI
[10:28] {scottie} tks
[10:29] {jdetente} CLF just continuing to get shellacked
[10:29] {ese} is it ever
[10:29] {jdetente} tempted to take a long very small shares
[10:30] {ese} wait on it jd...........imo........showing no strenght whatsoever right now
[10:30] {jdetente} tempted...not taking it
[10:32] {dptl} wlp .20 long?
[10:32] {patel} any read on RAX
01[10:33] {Threei}  can't tell WLP
[10:33] {patel} If it gets down to 60 it should bounce
01[10:33] {Threei}  60?
01[10:33] {Threei}  2 bucks from here
[10:33] {patel} yeah
[10:33] {patel} 200 MA is right around 60
01[10:33] {Threei}  you need a fortune teller for that, not a chart reader :)
[10:34] {patel} lol
01[10:34] {Threei}  there are a lot of other factors aside of 200 MA
[10:34] {ese} wlp
[10:35] {ese} opps........you guys are already there
[10:35] {dptl} no
[10:36] {ese} mrkt loosing steam
[10:37] {thomcbell} short setup aig 38.90 break if holding 39
01[10:38] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .90 break
01[10:38] {Threei}  hl
01[10:39] {Threei}  If holds  .70
01[10:39] {Threei}  .80 that is
[10:39] {scottie} .70 ?
[10:39] {scottie} ok
[10:39] {ese} check out the slide KO has just put on
[10:40] {dptl} DG .65 short?
01[10:40] {Threei}  hl
[10:41] {dino} ezch sm l .85 wide
[10:45] {dino} ssys drop
01[10:46] {Threei}  DG 1:1
[10:46] {dptl} out .52
[10:46] {scottie} gj dp
[10:46] {dptl} ty
01[10:47] {Threei}  (US) White House issues memorandum to Congress requesting establishment of a $2B trust to promote cleaner sources of energy
01[10:47] {Threei}  seriously?
[10:47] {dino} htsi sm s .50
01[10:47] {Threei}  more Solyndras, A-1s and Teslas?
[10:48] {scottie} GE s .30 if holds .35 ?
01[10:48] {Threei}  Euro vs US Dollar Weakens to session lows- Dealers are noting vague chatter of an unconfirmed ECB dovish think tank report as well as speculation Feb US nonfarm payrolls could reach 300K
01[10:48] {Threei}  I think so, GE, but don't count on much
[10:49] {scottie} tks
01[10:49] {Threei}  notice how this bastard invalidated our .25 long, then worked like charm
[10:49] {ese} they need that cleaner sourses fund vad..............just think of the polution I create the mirriad times times i come over to your house
[10:50] {thomcbell} ezch kind of interesting me here
01[10:51] {Threei}  they need to stop throwing taxpayers money to their cronies, ese
01[10:51] {Threei}  technology will be deveoped if it's viable
[10:52] {ese} yup
[10:52] {thomcbell} ezch - no more
[10:53] {scottie} AZN s 46 ?
01[10:53] {Threei}  not sure
01[10:53] {Threei}  rather no
[10:53] {scottie} ok
[10:53] {ese} ya gotta like the way akam does not following the mrkt here
[10:55] {cipher} dltr l .80
[10:55] {cipher} out .90
[10:55] {cipher} sfly l .97
[10:57] {thomcbell} aig invalidated
[10:57] {dptl} NEM short?
[10:58] {cipher} out sfly +.01
01[10:59] {Threei}  NEM, yes, just a scalp
[10:59] {dptl} .04? aggresive?
01[11:01] {Threei}  don't know, that's a personal preference
[11:05] {cipher} ezch l .23
[11:07] {cipher} out .15 -.08
[11:08] {cipher} ezch l .15
01[11:09] {Threei} Long Setup:  MSI  .40 break hl
01[11:09] {Threei}  If holds  .30
[11:10] {cipher} out ezch .21 +.06
[11:12] {cipher} ezch s.00
[11:13] {cipher} cov .73
[11:15] {dino} htsi stop
[11:15] {ese} akam hod
01[11:17] {Threei}  anyone played AIG?
01[11:17] {Threei}  did better than I expected it to
[11:18] {Will49} not here
[11:18] {dptl} AFL 49 short?
01[11:19] {Threei}  what the deuce
[11:19] {cipher} nile l .94
01[11:19] {Threei}  AFL, yes
01[11:20] {Threei}  (IE) International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA) declares Anglo Irish bankruptcy a credit event
[11:23] {dptl} in afl .99
[11:23] {dptl} stop .11
[11:25] {ese} big mrkt slide
[11:25] {ese} it's affecting my retirement income
01[11:25] {Threei}  whole continents are crying for you
01[11:25] {Threei}  Africa is, I am sure
[11:26] {ese} speaking about ....all about me..........nemo........how ya doin after that snow storm
01[11:26] {Threei}  he made a shelf in all that snow and put beer in it
[11:26] {ese} lol
[11:26] {nemo} nice one ese...I appreciate that, smooth, relatively subtle, clean
[11:27] {patel} lol
[11:27] {nemo} I don't really drink beer
[11:27] {ese} tks
[11:27] {nemo} not enough bang for the buck
[11:27] {ese} i've learned from the master
01[11:27] {Threei}  but thoroughly diluted with vodka, it multiplies effect
[11:27] {ese} yuk
[11:27] {nemo} I'm drying out for New Year's on Friday
[11:28] {ese} starting? or for?   friday
[11:28] {nemo} for
01[11:28] {Threei}  you are like a first year student in soviet university... saying "beer without vodka is money wasted"
01[11:29] {Threei}  to which second year one answers:
[11:29] {ese} phew!....good
[11:29] {ese} ?
01[11:29] {Threei}  so is watermelon, but try to inject it with vodka, and it doubles the effect!
01[11:30] {Threei}  AFL is almost at 1:1
01[11:30] {Threei}  I'd trail a stop to .05 here dp
[11:30] {dptl} should i move stop to .05?
[11:30] {dptl} :)
01[11:31] {Threei}  heh... tell me I am not reading your mind
[11:31] {dptl} or i am yours
01[11:31] {Threei}  or that
01[11:31] {Threei}  but the scariest thing is when I read nemo's...
01[11:32] {Threei}  now, that's going to give one nightmares
[11:32] {ese} lol
01[11:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .63
01[11:33] {Threei}  If holds  .55
01[11:33] {Threei}  a bit too fast break...
[11:34] {Will49} I'll say
01[11:34] {Threei}  see if pulls back for entry
[11:34] {dptl} stopped afl
[11:35] {dptl} 2 c to 1:1 couldnt do it
[11:38] {dptl} here it is fb
01[11:39] {Threei}  .54 stop
01[11:39] {Threei}  SPY should double-bottom here
01[11:40] {Threei}  unless there is something more than meets the eye to this sudden drop a few min ago
[11:40] {thomcbell} can u believe this ezch was green today
01[11:41] {Threei}  which is quite possible, I find it hard to believe that Irish news was the sole reason for such dump
[11:41] {dptl} in .61 fb
01[11:41] {Threei}  that's some bar on daily tbell, lol
[11:42] {thomcbell} bananas
[11:44] {cipher} out nile .39 +.45
01[11:45] {Threei}  FB put in nice bottoming formation but real test will be its ability (or lack of such) to break .70
01[11:45] {Threei}  nice one cipher
[11:45] {cipher} ty
[11:47] {cc_8} An exclusive from GreekReporter.com reports that Hillary Clinton will seek the Democratic nomination in the 2016 presidential election and they have the sources to prove it. .
[11:47] {ese} rotflol............the greek reporter
[11:48] {ese} thats hilarious
[11:48] {Will49} Hillaryareous
[11:48] {ese} everyone and their dog know she was going to run
[11:48] {ese} good one will
[11:48] {Will49} :)
01[11:49] {Threei}  they can nominate whoever they want - republicans will find a guy appealing to voters like raw 3-days dead fish to French gourmet restaurant patron, to make sure they lose the election
[11:49] {dptl} DVN .30 short?
01[11:49] {Threei}  no read DVN
[11:50] {Will49} sounds like you're bitter Vad
01[11:50] {Threei}  nope, realistuc
[11:50] {ese} double B bbry
01[11:52] {Threei}  with this economy and unemployment and many other blunders by WH, it was a difficult taskk to find the way to lose this election - and republicans did find it
01[11:52] {Threei}  so I believe in them
[11:53] {Will49} lol
01[11:53] {Threei}  it's not like they'll lose all their skills in 3 years, right?
[11:53] {ese} nice..........thats my kinda reasoning
01[11:54] {Threei}  they will carefully look at all their cadndiates and pick one with the least chance of winning
01[11:55] {Threei}  they they'll make sure he runs lukewarm campaign
01[11:55] {Threei}  while other candidates undermine him with idiotic tirades about various social issues
01[11:55] {Threei}  see? skills!
01[11:56] {Threei}  move your butt FB
[11:56] {dptl} twx .35 short?
01[11:57] {Threei}  yeah
01[11:57] {Threei}  let's try it again:
01[11:57] {Threei}  move your butt FB
01[11:58] {Threei}  let's offer half just under .70 anf try to make a play for break and run
01[11:58] {Threei}  which is not much different from break and enter
01[11:59] {Threei}  this is pretty much how nemo and I played the bar on the boat in Bahamas... one was breaking, the other entering
[11:59] {nemo} hehehehe
01[12:00] {Threei}  by the time I realized how much vodka he poured in me and remembered that I was so speak tomorrow, frpm 9 am for the whole day, it was too late to stop
[12:00] {nemo} yeah...all my fault
01[12:02] {Threei}  who climbed the table and stepped over dishes and dining ladies and gentlemen to reach the bar faster?
[12:02] {nemo} well, I'm a bit more sprightly than you
01[12:03] {Threei}  oh, and who returned with two glasses of vodka for me instead of one, saying "just to save another trip..."?
01[12:03] {Threei}  and then made another trip anyway?
[12:03] {nemo} efficiency of entry and exit
01[12:04] {Threei}  sheesh FB... while we are young please?
[12:08] {dptl} wlp .20 long?
01[12:09] {Threei}  hl
[12:09] {dino} hsp drop
01[12:09] {Threei}  should be 1:2
01[12:16] {Threei}  1:1
01[12:20] {Threei}  drive to 1:2 starts
01[12:24] {Threei}  (EU) EU's Rehn: ongoing economic weakness in Europe is related to the continuing deleveraging process; must continue fiscal consolidation- Countries may be awarded longer periods to fix deficit problems assuming growth unexpectedly declines - Will only be provided time if they can address structural issues
01[12:24] {Threei}  and if not?
01[12:24] {Threei}  heh
01[12:25] {Threei}  ohm this is a beauty... want some good laugh?
01[12:25] {Threei}  (US) Treasury Sec Nominee Lew: China's Yuan remains undervalued; would maintain a strong USD policy if confirmed- Believes US has pushed back hard on China currency issue
01[12:25] {Threei}  maintain a strong USD policy???
01[12:26] {Threei}  second half stopped on a trail, WLP
[12:26] {patel} stop on FB
01[12:26] {Threei}  still .54
01[12:30] {Threei} Long Setup:  AIG  39 break
01[12:30] {Threei}  If holds  .95
[12:35] {jdetente} kicking FB into gear
01[12:36] {Threei}  half out
01[12:36] {Threei}  1/4 more out
[12:36] {dptl} out fb ty
[12:36] {patel} damn
[12:36] {patel} that was freaking fast
[12:36] {patel} sheesh
[12:36] {thomcbell} what is that move
01[12:36] {Threei}  you complaining?
[12:36] {patel} no
01[12:37] {Threei}  feels like news-caused but I see no news
01[12:37] {Threei}  1:3, out
[12:37] {patel} geez
01[12:37] {Threei}  ah, the joy of being positioned in advance for such move
01[12:39] {Threei}  interesting, still no news
[12:39] {patel} its going to rip through 28
[12:40] {thomcbell} they were jst on tv apparently
01[12:40] {Threei}  ah, OK
01[12:40] {Threei}  CNBC?
[12:40] {thomcbell} i think so
01[12:40] {Threei}  or Bloomberg?
[12:40] {thomcbell} ezch looks like a 24.96 short break here
01[12:40] {Threei}  I haven't had either on
[12:40] {thomcbell} big head and shoulders type problem
[12:40] {thomcbell} not playing
[12:41] {patel} time to put AIG on the tv.
01[12:41] {Threei}  lol
[12:44] {dptl} ntap .15 long?
01[12:46] {Threei}  mmm
[12:46] {dptl} got .17 half lot
[12:50] {dino} .
01[12:50] {Threei}  ese... with all our distaste for FB as company, you can't deby that its stock made our day today, can you? :)
01[12:50] {Threei}  deny
[12:50] {jdetente} excellent trading
[12:50] {jdetente} tty
01[12:50] {Threei}  NTAP works
01[12:50] {Threei}  yw sir
01[12:54] {Threei}  wow
01[12:54] {Threei}  that's a whole lot more than looked possible
[12:54] {jdetente} let's kick AIG into gear now...
[12:55] {jdetente} or not
01[12:55] {Threei}  meh
[12:55] {dptl} stopped aig
[12:57] {dino} ezch sm l .51
01[13:00] {Threei}  CLF... time to start watching ikt for some squeeze I think
[13:01] {dino} 30 trigger was thinking
01[13:01] {Threei}  yes but aggressive might be a good idea
01[13:01] {Threei} Long Setup:  CLF  .85 break hl
01[13:02] {Threei}  If holds  .75
01[13:02] {Threei}  not for faint hearts
01[13:02] {Threei}  target 30.45 or so
01[13:05] {Threei}  btw, that FB news that made a play for us:
01[13:05] {Threei}  Omega's Cooperman Discloses new ownership of 3.1M shares of Facebook
01[13:06] {Threei}  I think it's very silly of you, mr cooperman, but I sincerely thank you
[13:08] {dptl} out ntap .49
[13:08] {patel} nice job
[13:08] {Will49} excellent dp
[13:09] {dptl} thanx
[13:16] {dino} gj
01[13:22] {Threei}  not ready yet
[13:22] {dptl} stoped clf
[13:25] {dptl} qcom ..50 l?
01[13:26] {Threei}  I hate QCOM
01[13:26] {Threei}  talk to tbell
01[13:26] {Threei}  he loves it
[13:26] {dptl} lol
[13:27] {thomcbell} i stopped trading it
[13:27] {thomcbell} i was converted
[13:27] {dptl} ok i'll remove it from my list :)
[13:27] {patel} lol
01[13:28] {Threei}  why... maybe your personalities match...
01[13:28] {Threei}  meet it... talk to it...
[13:28] {Will49} I hate AIG
[13:28] {dptl} no
01[13:28] {Threei}  look in its eyes
01[13:28] {Threei}  hold its hand
[13:28] {thomcbell} aig i like - im not surprised that it cant get going today - that was a nasty day yesterday
[13:28] {ese} I....................am.......................outta.......................here....................catch you all tomorrow........got the stop loss in for AKAM at .00 and we'll see what happens to my retirement fund by the end of the day
[13:29] {Will49} cheers ese
01[13:29] {Threei}  take care ese
[13:29] {ese} cya will vad et al
[13:29] {dptl} ye i hate wfc sounds like wtf to mee
[13:30] {Will49} lol
01[13:30] {Threei}  everyone is so touchy-feely
01[13:30] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .90 break
01[13:30] {Threei}  If holds  .54
[13:33] {dptl} hes .10 long?
[13:34] {dino} out ezch .63, +1.13
[13:34] {thomcbell} you dog
[13:34] {thomcbell} i got run over in it today - 2x
01[13:34] {Threei}  wtg
[13:34] {dino} still neg overall on it
[13:35] {patel} MSI
[13:35] {thomcbell} recidivism
01[13:35] {Threei}  HES, na'h
[13:35] {patel} MSI
[13:35] {patel} opps
[13:35] {patel} sorry
[13:36] {patel} meant to put it in my platform
01[13:36] {Threei}  too late
01[13:36] {Threei}  now e know what you are thinking
[13:41] {dptl} duk
[13:41] {dptl} .60 shhort?
[13:42] {Will49} thought you were cursing dp
01[13:42] {Threei}  lol
[13:42] {dptl} lol
01[13:42] {Threei}  and yes
[13:45] {dptl} what about jpm sh?
01[13:45] {Threei}  no read... too narrow
[13:45] {dptl} ok
01[13:46] {Threei}  look at all the stocks mentioned over last, I don't know... 30 min, 1 hour
01[13:46] {Threei}  none of them moved anywhere
01[13:46] {Threei}  QCOM 2 cents
[13:46] {dptl} ye.....i'll step out for for a bit :)
01[13:47] {Threei}  HES, same place
[13:48] {dino} ezch sm l .00
01[13:50] {Threei} Long Setup:  WDR  42 break hl
01[13:50] {Threei}  If holds  .90
[13:57] {dino} ezch stop -.23
[14:03] {dino} rinsed
[14:08] {thomcbell} cmcsa all day long downtrend
01[14:13] {Threei}  took just 40 minutes for QCOM to move nowhere. That's fast
[14:15] {dptl} fslr .40 short looks good to me....no?
01[14:15] {Threei}  BBRY... it's better make double bottom around 14 and bounce, or this will turn into disaster in the making
01[14:16] {Threei}  half lot is a valid try on FSLR
01[14:20] {Threei}  WDR is holding nicely during market drop
[14:21] {jdetente} CLF...jeez
01[14:21] {Threei}  damaged goods
01[14:27] {Threei}  1: 1 FSLR
[14:27] {dptl} no fill yet
01[14:27] {Threei}  this is so unpatriotic... just next day after president issued a large portion of hot ait about climate change and green companies
[14:30] {jdetente} WDR still on the table if it breaks 42?
01[14:30] {Threei}  yup
[14:33] {dptl} out some fslr
01[14:33] {Threei}  unpatriotic... I am telling you
01[14:41] {Threei}  dp, you need to do some redempltion of your sins - buy 10K shares of AONE
01[14:41] {Threei}  Invalidated  WDR
[14:45] {dptl} heh..its not trading
01[14:46] {Threei}  who said redemption is easy? find the company office, contact them, beg for shares...
[14:46] {dptl} :)
01[14:46] {Threei}  you enjoyed sinning
01[14:46] {Threei}  payback time
01[14:47] {Threei}  and payback as well know is a b*tch
01[14:48] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .75 break
01[14:49] {Threei}  If holds  .85
01[14:54] {Threei}  1:1
01[14:55] {Threei}  must give 1:2 or my name is not Georgio Costanzietto
[14:56] {Will49} haha
[14:56] {jdetente} this is not a flattering self portrait
[14:56] {jdetente} http://www.seinfeld-fan.net/pictures/george/george_costanza015.jpg
01[14:57] {Threei}  not at all
[14:57] {dptl} lol
01[14:58] {Threei}  here is my answer to you jd:
01[14:58] {Threei}  http://www.realitytrader.com/vad/soupnazi.png
[14:59] {jdetente} lol
01[15:02] {Threei}  1:2 baby
[15:02] {dptl} out ty
01[15:02] {Threei}  yw
[15:03] {dptl} i just took half lot
[15:03] {jdetente} Georgio Costanzietto it is
[15:03] {jdetente} ty
[15:04] {patel} nice thanks
01[15:04] {Threei}  yw
01[15:04] {Threei}  and yes
[15:04] {Will49} tks Vad nice trade
01[15:04] {Threei}  the name is secure
[15:05] {dptl} got to go....see ya tomorrow all
01[15:05] {Threei}  take care dp
[15:07] {Will49} see ya
[15:22] {dino} adding clf for swing
[15:22] {dino} adding ezch for swing
01[15:23] {Threei}  one thing is for sure dino... no one will ever call you a coward
[15:23] {dino} :)
[15:23] {dino} in at .25 both
[15:32] {nemo} http://www.readingthescore.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/cute-rabbit-falling-asleep.gif
01[15:32] {Threei}  lol
01[15:34] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .25 break
01[15:35] {Threei}  btw, in case I forget... this is one to watch for short tomorrow as well
[15:47] {patel} stop on GDX
01[15:47] {Threei}  .31
[15:47] {patel} target 1:1
01[15:48] {Threei}  well, time is a factor
[15:48] {patel} yeah
01[15:48] {Threei}  so might have to close it earlier
01[15:54] {Threei}  die GDX
01[15:54] {Threei}  time's running out
01[15:57] {Threei}  3 min
[15:57] {patel} i got out at .19
01[15:57] {Threei}  2
01[15:58] {Threei}  OK, out too
01[15:58] {Threei}  saved by the bell, GDX
[15:58] {Will49} great day Vad..tks
[15:58] {patel} 1 cents away from 1:1
01[15:58] {Threei}  we are back on winning streak
01[15:58] {Threei}  after brief interruption
01[15:58] {Threei}  thank you all
[15:59] {jdetente} Good calls Vad. Back on track
01[15:59] {Threei}  have a goiod evening, see you tomorrow
[16:00] {dino} gn

Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Feb 12 2013

Interesting day for us - first one in almost 3 weeks where we haven't finished in black. Not unhappy with it though - we started with solidly red morning, and then methodically and carefully clawed our way back in to flat or just very slightly in red. Can't win them all so gotta make sure you handle losing days right - in cold blood, minimizing damage and making sure there is no lasting scars. Tomorrow is a new day. 

Session Time: Tue Feb 12 00:00:00 2013
[08:58] {dino} gm
01[08:58] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:06] {cipher} gm
01[09:07] {Threei}  cipher :)
[09:11] {Will49} gm
01[09:11] {Threei}  will :)
[09:14] {scottie} good morning
01[09:14] {Threei}  scottie :)
[09:14] {jdetente} gm
01[09:15] {Threei}  jd :)
[09:18] {patel} Good Morning!
01[09:18] {Threei}  patel :)
01[09:20] {Threei}  FB tries to recover from overnight hit
[09:29] {dptl} gm
[09:29] {ese} gm
[09:29] {ese} forgot to sign in almost
01[09:30] {Threei}  dp, ese :)
[09:30] {cipher} AMGN L.44
[09:31] {dino} rgr drop
[09:32] {cipher} out amgn .00 +.56
[09:32] {Will49} that's the way to start cipher
[09:33] {cipher} ty
[09:33] {dino} nice
01[09:33] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .90 break hl
01[09:33] {Threei}  If holds  .80 
01[09:34] {Threei}  yeah... good luck ebtering that, lol
[09:34] {dptl} lol..ye no ebter
[09:35] {patel} definitely missed that one. 
01[09:35] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  36 break
[09:35] {thomcbell} xone wow 
01[09:35] {Threei}  If holds  .10 
01[09:35] {Threei}  not a scalp
01[09:35] {Threei}  at least 1:2
[09:36] {cipher} gmcr l .60
[09:38] {cipher} out  .45 -.15
01[09:38] {Threei}  1:1
01[09:39] {Threei}  play by the book
[09:39] {nemo} 42.25 area for GMCR, doesn't bounce their 41.80-42 area
01[09:39] {Threei}  hopefully morning volatility doesn't shake out second half
[09:39] {nemo} there
01[09:39] {Threei}  there is good potential for it
[09:40] {nemo} finnies weak
01[09:40] {Threei}  OK
01[09:40] {Threei}  keep an eye on LVS for double bottom
[09:42] {dino} rgr hl s .20
01[09:43] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .85 break
[09:43] {dino} cov rgr .91, +.29
01[09:43] {Threei}  If holds  .95 
01[09:47] {Threei}  LVS, ideally we get a flush to about .65 - .70, and get an entry point on .70 recross
01[09:49] {Threei}  FB, tighten stop to .91
01[09:49] {Threei}  not liking these SPY convulsions
[09:49] {dino} vmw sm l .00
[09:50] {scottie} damn fat finger, exited too soon
[09:51] {dino} cyno sm s .60
[09:52] {dino} cyno stop -.20
[09:53] {dino} rinsed, sob
[09:53] {cipher} wmv +.25 thxx dino
01[09:53] {Threei}  out
01[09:54] {Threei}  LVS bottomed at .71, not giving an entry
[09:54] {dino} out vmw .30, +.30
[09:54] {dino} np cipher, gj
01[09:54] {Threei}  *&(^%$#
[09:55] {jdetente} freakin FB
01[09:55] {Threei}  no kidding
[09:55] {patel} damn
01[09:55] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .80 break
01[09:55] {Threei}  If holds  .90 
[10:01] {cipher} WMV s .60
01[10:01] {Threei}  1:1let me reiterate: frikin FB
01[10:01] {Threei}  1:2
01[10:05] {Threei}  no go
[10:05] {dino} qlys sm l .25 gappy
[10:05] {patel} NOG s 14.75 
01[10:06] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .40 break
01[10:06] {Threei}  If holds  .30 
[10:06] {dino} out qlys .55, +.30
[10:07] {cipher} cov wmv .50 +.10
01[10:10] {Threei} Long Setup:  BBRY  .85
01[10:10] {Threei}  If holds  .75 
[10:10] {dino} rgr hl hl s .54 ave
01[10:12] {Threei}  Invalidated  CAT 
01[10:12] {Threei}  for now at least
01[10:12] {Threei}  still liking chart for long
[10:12] {dino} cov rgr .29, +.25
01[10:14] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .30 break
01[10:14] {Threei}  If holds  .20 
01[10:15] {Threei}  BBRY target 1:3
01[10:15] {Threei}  CAT too if triggers
01[10:18] {Threei}  CAT invalidated again
01[10:20] {Threei} Long Setup:  AIG  .90 break
01[10:20] {Threei}  If holds  .80 
01[10:21] {Threei}  somewhat lifeless market today
[10:21] {dino} rnf sm l .94
[10:22] {dino} cone sm l .00
01[10:23] {Threei}  one more invalidation
[10:24] {patel} LVS no go. 
[10:24] {dino} out cone .25, 
[10:24] {patel} rough start to the day. 
[10:24] {dino} +.25
[10:26] {dino} getting out rnf, no likey
[10:27] {dino} out ave .95, +.01
01[10:27] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .10 break
01[10:27] {Threei}  If holds  .20 
01[10:28] {Threei}  not liking this morning
[10:28] {jdetente} hell of a morning so far
01[10:28] {Threei}  then again, I liked every morning for the last 2 1/2 weeks... maybe it's just time
[10:31] {cipher} wmw s.88
[10:32] {cipher} cov .78
[10:34] {cipher} vmw s.81
[10:34] {ese} nothing like calmly making money still L akam .41 from yesterday
[10:37] {cipher} cov wmv.71
01[10:38] {Threei} Short Setup: TEX  35 break hl
[10:42] {ese} Dino?......am calling on your experience here....take a look the akam daily for me..huge uncalled for gap dn covering a gap dn and some......what kind of retracement will this do do ya figure.....not looking for anything specific ball park is good based on your experience
[10:43] {ese} back to say 39.......or maybe the whole shootin match 42
01[10:44] {Threei}  half out TEX
[10:44] {cipher} VRSK L.89
[10:47] {dino} ese, akam was a pretty good miss on earnings, theres the gap. but yes eventually it should fill.shoot for r2 36.02 to r3 36.40
[10:48] {ese} tks
[10:48] {Will49} tex scalp .11 txs 
[10:48] {scottie} LTD s .80 ?
01[10:49] {Threei}  can't tell LTD
01[10:49] {Threei}  yw will
[10:49] {cipher} tex +.15 thx
[10:49] {scottie} tks
[10:49] {Will49} bit of a grind todat :)
[10:49] {Will49} today
[10:51] {cipher} PANL  L.99
01[10:54] {Threei}  market should start some slide now
01[10:54] {Threei}  nothing dramatic but
[10:55] {dino} rnf sm l .30 stop .14
[10:55] {nemo} 31.60 support for panl
[10:56] {dino} cyno spikey
[10:57] {ese} vad did you get out to take some photos yesterday.........we were walking along Beach Drive here and there were some cool mist sceens happening
01[10:57] {Threei}  out TEX in full
01[10:57] {Threei}  .83
[10:57] {dino} rnf stopped
[10:58] {dptl} stopped cat
[10:59] {dino} rnf rinsed, happening a lot lately
01[10:59] {Threei}  aww, too soon, TEX
[11:00] {dptl} long spwr .92
[11:01] {dptl} stop under .80
01[11:01] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .80 break
[11:05] {thomcbell} fb looking for a short entry 
[11:07] {dino} last try rnf sm l .35
[11:07] {nemo} mpc looks short
[11:07] {dptl} gdx stop .85?
[11:08] {jdetente} why such a tight stop dp?
[11:08] {ese} vad you must be paying me back or have me on ignore......
[11:08] {nemo} looking like 30.80 it was on panl
01[11:09] {Threei}  sorry ese, scrolling up
01[11:09] {Threei}  no, haven't had a chance
[11:09] {ese} no need to appologise........can't count the number of times i've missed your posts
[11:09] {cipher} jbht l .66
01[11:09] {Threei}  why can't? 865 in last year alone, 132 this year
01[11:10] {Threei}  just ask
[11:10] {ese} on purpose of course..............ahhhhh.....I mean by accident
[11:10] {ese} lol
01[11:10] {Threei}  this I don't know, I don't have means to find that out... so I put them all in "on puprose, must be avenged" category
[11:11] {ese} lol
[11:11] {ese} indeed
01[11:11] {Threei}  GDX, give us a few cents more
[11:11] {cipher} out vrsk +.01
[11:12] {ese} awesome C
[11:12] {ese} those are sometimes the best cents you can earn
01[11:12] {Threei}  1:1
[11:12] {ese} 1/100 to 1 profit ratio
01[11:12] {Threei}  lol
01[11:13] {Threei}  out in full GDX
01[11:13] {Threei}  a bit too vertical
[11:13] {patel} nice job
[11:13] {patel} need a few more just like that. 
01[11:13] {Threei}  and want to secure some profit, to smooth out this rough morning
[11:14] {dptl} ye i am out too ty
01[11:14] {Threei}  yw
[11:14] {jdetente} thanks Vad
01[11:14] {Threei}  see ese... and you ignored this one again {G}
[11:15] {dino} out rnf .71, +.36
01[11:15] {Threei}  wtg
01[11:16] {Threei} Long Setup:  JPM  .10 break
01[11:16] {Threei}  If holds  49 
01[11:16] {Threei}  whoa FB
01[11:17] {Threei}  who pulled the rug?
01[11:19] {Threei}  ahha
[11:19] {ese} nah nah nah.......i was watching........
01[11:19] {Threei}  downgrade by soemone
01[11:19] {Threei}  with price target 22
[11:19] {ese} am more concerned with the akam slow climb
[11:20] {ese} making money the old fashion way.......earrrrnnnning it
[11:22] {cipher} out jbht .75 +.09
[11:23] {Will49} ese suggests Vad's way of making money is leading edge :)
01[11:23] {Threei}  lol
01[11:23] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .80 break
01[11:23] {Threei}  hl
01[11:24] {Threei}  If holds  .90 
01[11:26] {Threei}  Invalidated  
01[11:27] {Threei}  btw ese, speaking of photography, look at this one I just finished: http://goo.gl/iH88d
[11:28] {dptl} spwr stopped....
01[11:28] {Threei}  that was weird trade to begin with dp
01[11:28] {Threei}  didn't like it one bit
01[11:32] {Threei}  ok JPM, time to do something
[11:35] {dino} tytgh drop
[11:35] {dino} tgh
[11:41] {dino} tgh sm l .80
01[11:41] {Threei}  JPM is in uncharted territory, dificult to assign a target
01[11:41] {Threei}  let's try for 1:2 for now
[11:42] {dino} out tgh .20, +.40
[11:44] {dino} wow, sold that too soon
01[11:50] {Threei}  GS moving up
01[11:50] {Threei}  let's see if it pulls our JPM
[11:56] {Will49} trailer hitch broke
01[11:58] {Threei}  got a rope?
[11:58] {ese} good line will
01[11:59] {Threei}  anyway. let's put stop at .04 now
[11:59] {Will49} :)
[11:59] {dino} tgh sm l .90
[12:02] {dino} idcc drop
01[12:05] {Threei}  taking .15 should launch us to 1:1
01[12:05] {Threei}  one of "patience required" trades
[12:06] {dino} idcc sm l .07
[12:06] {dino} tgh stop -.23
[12:09] {dptl} wlt long?
01[12:09] {Threei}  hear that chewing sound?
01[12:09] {Threei}  that's JPM, gnawing at .15
01[12:09] {Threei}  nah WLT
[12:10] {dptl} dont have money anyway just looking
[12:11] {dptl} you dont like that set up?
01[12:11] {Threei}  nope
[12:11] {dptl} that was .90 vbreak..why not?
01[12:12] {Threei}  look at the stock overall
01[12:12] {Threei}  what is it you like? 3 cents spread with tiny sizes?
[12:13] {dino} stop idcc -.17, taking a break
[12:13] {dptl} i see
01[12:13] {Threei}  it moves against you on someone's 1000 shares sale, you are down 15 cents before you can say mama
01[12:15] {Threei}  JPM, if you move with this blazing speed you might get blisters all over your skin
[12:16] {Will49} I've got a blister on my butt
[12:16] {Will49} from sitting watching jpm
01[12:17] {Threei}  try not to shuffle around so much?
[12:18] {dptl} vlo .65 short
[12:18] {dptl} ?
01[12:18] {Threei}  with .60 support this close, nah
01[12:18] {Threei}  if yuo want aggressive entry, take .70
01[12:19] {Threei}  at least you will have much tighter stop
01[12:19] {Threei}  with .65, you will have 10 cents stop and big IF in just 5 cents down
[12:20] {dptl} ok..i just watching for now.... till jpm clear some more funds for me
[12:20] {nemo} finnies walking a channel, expect spy and iwm to pop look for leveraged etf setup
06[12:20] * Threei sends Will a seat pillow
[12:21] {Will49} thank you sir!
01[12:21] {Threei}  very welcome
01[12:21] {Threei}  we are full service institution, you know
01[12:21] {Threei}  market calls, not funny jokes, summer parties...
[12:21] {nemo} u should be in an institution
01[12:21] {Threei}  I run it
[12:22] {Will49} we is the inmates
[12:22] {nemo} The 9th configuration
[12:22] {Will49} is that like district 9?
01[12:23] {Threei}  more like catch 22 in area 51
[12:23] {nemo} No, good movie from the 80's based on a Stephen King novel
[12:23] {Will49} i'll download it illegally
[12:24] {dptl} lol
[12:29] {dptl} tdc .30 short?
01[12:30] {Threei}  hl, lukewarm yeah
06[12:30] * Threei kicks JPM in the rear
[12:34] {Will49} will pulls pillow out from under butt and swats jpm
[12:34] {Will49} worked
[12:35] {Will49} just a little swat
01[12:35] {Threei}  again?
06[12:35] * Threei kicks JPM in the rear with heavy duty still toe army boots
[12:36] {Will49} I'm a nonviolent student trader
[12:36] {Will49} just use pillows
[12:37] {nemo} Oh Sorry, based on a William Peter Blatty novel...it's on youtube
[12:37] {nemo} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZCcjzOeXlM&feature=youtu.be
01[12:38] {Threei}  not good will... lack of violence will significantly undermine your trading
01[12:38] {Threei}  1:1!
[12:38] {dptl} out half jpm
[12:38] {scottie} half out tks Vad
01[12:38] {Threei}  believe it or not
[12:38] {dptl} ty
01[12:38] {Threei}  but it did happen
01[12:38] {Threei}  and I was there
01[12:38] {Threei}  I saw it with my own eyes
01[12:39] {Threei}  ok... by the book... stop to .09, offering 1/4 at 1:2
[12:39] {scottie} This day starts to look better
[12:39] {Will49} steel toed boots and pillow trade
[12:39] {scottie} sounds like a porn movie
01[12:39] {Threei}  not dug out of the hole completely yet scottie, but moving in the right direction
01[12:40] {Threei}  lol
[12:40] {dptl} fslr .50 long?
[12:40] {nemo} excellent movie
[12:40] {Will49} tks nemo, will watch tonight
01[12:40] {Threei}  no, not likeling that setup at all
[12:40] {Will49} i love anything about redemption:)
[12:40] {dino} tyg sm l .34 ave
[12:42] {dptl} db .90 long?
01[12:43] {Threei}  dp
01[12:43] {Threei}  you have some kind of itch or what?
01[12:43] {Threei}  what's with trade after trade after trade?
01[12:43] {Threei}  all with very marginal setups?
01[12:44] {Threei}  there are about 10K stocks
01[12:44] {Threei}  it doesn't mean they all are suitable for trade or that you must trade all of the a day
[12:44] {dptl} hmm..just looking for the set ups 
01[12:44] {Threei}  you know very well how it ends when you start jumping from one to another, just to do something
01[12:45] {Threei}  most of those you look at have none
01[12:45] {Threei}  or have very low volume
01[12:45] {Threei}  or very narrow range
01[12:45] {Threei}  or too wide spreads and tiny sizes
01[12:45] {Threei}  be more picky
01[12:45] {Threei}  set your scanner p[arameters tighter
01[12:46] {Threei}  so it doesn't spit 10 alerts a minute at you
[12:46] {dino} wow, for a second there i thought you were talking to me (low vol, wide spreads)
01[12:46] {Threei}  :)
01[12:47] {Threei}  why didn't you ak about KBH a few min ago while it was consolidating under .50?
01[12:47] {Threei}  much better volume, much nicer setupm good risk
[12:48] {dptl} i see
01[12:48] {Threei}  look for this kind, drop all those weirdos
[12:48] {dptl} ok
[12:48] {Will49} or off to Siberia you go
01[12:48] {Threei}  no, I am not that cruel
01[12:49] {Threei}  he didn't even live in Winnipeg
[12:49] {Will49} close!
01[12:49] {Threei}  no survival skills for Siberia
[12:49] {dino} dp, for most part noon until 1 pm est sucks for trades
[12:52] {nemo} hah, love this:  "One of the tests is they make you dive to the bottom of a pool and tie five knots," the Shooter says. "One guy got to the fifth knot and blacked out underwater. We pulled him up and he was, like, dead. They made the class face the fence while they tried to resuscitate him. The first words as he spit out water were 'Did I pass? Did I tie the fifth knot?' The instructor 
[12:52] {nemo} told him, 'We didn't want to find out if you could tie the knots, you asshole, we wanted to know how hard you'd push yourself. You killed yourself. You passed.'"
[12:52] {dino} lol
01[12:52] {Threei}  sheesh
01[12:52] {Threei}  lol
[12:55] {nemo} love this part too: It is important to him to stress that no women or children were killed in that raid. He also insists that when it came to interrogation, repetitive questioning and leveraging fear was as aggressive as he'd go. "When we first started the war in Iraq, we were using Metallica music to soften people up before we interrogated them," the Shooter says. "Metallica got wind of 
[12:55] {nemo} this and they said, 'Hey, please don't use our music because we don't want to promote violence.' I thought, Dude, you have an album called Kill 'Em All.
01[12:55] {Threei}  heh
01[12:56] {Threei}  decide if you want to sell second half at 1:2 or 1/4
01[12:56] {Threei}  very hard to tell how big of a chance it has to proceed to 1:3
01[12:56] {Threei}  so, how about this:
01[12:57] {Threei}  if selling half makes you flat for the day, do it,
[12:57] {nemo} frickin' VXX just dying
01[12:57] {Threei}  if not yet, sell 1/4 and push for more,
01[12:57] {Threei}  after all we are playing with house money on this trade now
01[12:58] {Threei}  by the way guys, a suggestion and a question
01[12:58] {Threei}  that last week discussion about money management and blog post on it that I linked later on,
01[12:59] {Threei}  do make sure that you read the whole set of articles in the blog, they highlight various aspects of trading approach that we use regularly but rarely discuss,
01[12:59] {Threei}  simply because I take it for granted
01[12:59] {Threei}  and assume that you read the whole thing
01[12:59] {Threei}  so make sure you did.
01[13:00] {Threei}  Now, question
01[13:00] {Threei}  if there are some aspects that require detailed discussion and I failed to write anything about it, point them out
[13:02] {ese} dino.......you were right about it pausing AKAM that is at 36.42
01[13:02] {Threei}  KBH... sheesh
01[13:02] {Threei}  why did we miss this one
[13:02] {ese} still looks like it has room to go though
[13:03] {ese} nice move kbh
[13:03] {ese} 52 week high of some sort vad?
01[13:04] {Threei}  yeah
[13:06] {nemo} like this one:  Even in action, with all their high state of expertise and readiness, "we're normal people. We fall off ladders, land on the wrong roof, get bitten by dogs." In Iraq, a breacher was putting a charge on a door to blow it off its hinges when he mistakenly leaned against the doorbell. He quickly took off the charge and the target opened the door. We were like, "You rang the 
[13:06] {nemo} fucking doorbell?!" Maybe we should try that more often, the Shooter thought to himself.
[13:10] {dino} nemo, what are you reading from?
[13:11] {nemo} http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313-1
[13:11] {dino} thx
[13:11] {nemo} looking at the daily this market climb is so consistent and moderate
[13:13] {dino} idcc drops again
[13:13] {dino} tyg dog out .29 -.05
[13:14] {dino} idcc sm l .34
[13:15] {dino} stop is lod break
[13:16] {nemo} On the third floor, there were two chicks yelling at us and the point man was yelling at them and he said to me, "Hey, we need to get moving. These bitches is getting truculent." I remember saying to myself, Truculent? Really? Love that word.
[13:16] {nemo} Read more: Man Who Killed Osama Bin Laden - Treatment of Veteran Who Shot bin Laden - Esquire http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313-5#ixzz2Ki65zMyi
01[13:16] {Threei} Short Setup: CLH  .70 break hl
[13:16] {dino} stop idcc
[13:16] {dino} taking break
[13:20] {dptl} i have a ?
[13:22] {dptl} how that CLH is different from DB regarding low volume and thin?
01[13:22] {Threei}  volume is low
01[13:22] {Threei}  look at sizes, it's not that thin
01[13:22] {Threei}  with half lot it's tradeable
[13:23] {dptl} DB sizes are looks almost the same to mee
01[13:23] {Threei}  spread is generally better, gap between levels is tighter
01[13:23] {Threei}  you don't see how much more dense level 2 is on CLH vs DB?
[13:24] {dptl} no not really
01[13:24] {Threei}  come on
01[13:24] {Threei}  place them side by side
01[13:24] {Threei}  you can drive a truck through DB level 2
[13:26] {dptl} hmm..is there somethingi don't see?
[13:27] {ese} well i never..........just cause i don't say anything it cuts me off
[13:28] {ese} igotta go anyway.........one heck of a good day with AKAM.....cya tomorrow
01[13:28] {Threei}  take care ese, gj
[13:28] {ese} tks vad
01[13:32] {Threei}  1:1
[13:33] {scottie} How did you get in ? On my T&S it jumped from .70 to .67 and then to .65 ?
[13:33] {jdetente} yeah no fill for me on that one either
01[13:33] {Threei}  there were .69 prints
01[13:33] {Threei}  got 200 there, and 100 at .70
[13:33] {patel} I didnt get filled either. 
[13:34] {Will49} nor i
[13:34] {Will49} too thin?
01[13:35] {Threei}  yup
01[13:36] {Threei} Short Setup: DG  .15 break
01[13:39] {Threei}  (FR) France Foreign Min: We are in need of a FX policy, strong Euro is hurting the economic recovery
01[13:39] {Threei}  yes komrad
01[13:40] {Threei}  White House: Obama spoke to South Korean President Lee Myung-bak; both condemned 'highly provocative' North Korea test
01[13:40] {Threei}  North Korea - oh you spoke to each other? How nice
[13:41] {nemo} Oh this is good I guess opinions on marriage are universal:  We listened to the Al Qaeda phone calls where one guy is saying, "We gotta find out who ratted on bin Laden." The other guy says, "I heard he did it to himself. He was locked up in that house with three wives." Funny terrorists.
01[13:41] {Threei}  Kate Upton on CNBC after commercials... and they say CNBC is useless
[13:41] {scottie} DG stop .22 ?
01[13:42] {Threei}  torn between that and .26
01[13:44] {Threei}  KPM baby
01[13:45] {Threei}  J
01[13:45] {Threei}  hmmm... did Ijust call one of the most hated banks "a baby?"
[13:45] {scottie} lol
01[13:45] {Threei}  I am so doomed
01[13:47] {Threei}  ok, let's keep .22 on DG
01[13:47] {Threei}  just to play it tight
01[13:47] {Threei}  good boy JPM
01[13:47] {Threei}  I mean bad boy but good move
01[13:48] {Threei}  good move by bad boy
01[13:48] {Threei}  sigh... I'll just shut up
[13:48] {Will49} haha
[13:48] {dptl} i am out .29
01[13:48] {Threei}  1/4 out here
[13:49] {scottie} out JPM +.19 tks Vad
01[13:49] {Threei}  welcome
[13:49] {dptl} unfortunatly i have to leave early...see ya tomorrow all
01[13:49] {Threei}  take care dp
01[13:49] {Threei}  question:
[13:49] {Will49} be good dp
01[13:49] {Threei}  how do you dig out of a hole?
01[13:49] {Threei}  answer: SLOWLY
[13:50] {scottie} dp
[13:50] {dptl} i did  not
01[13:50] {Threei}  never push, never try to get it all back up fast
01[13:50] {Threei}  trade carefully and take best setups with rigor risk vontrol
01[13:50] {Threei}  or control
01[13:51] {Threei}  JPM stop is .19 of course
[13:52] {patel} DG target
01[13:53] {Threei}  probably just 1:1
[13:53] {dino} cya dp
01[14:02] {Threei}  will, how's that pillow?
[14:03] {Will49} wait, let me pull it out
[14:04] {Will49} uuuhhhh
[14:04] {Will49} there...swat/swat/swat
06[14:04] * Threei hits DG over the head with 2x4
[14:04] {Will49} aaahhhh...back on th pillow again
01[14:05] {Threei}  stop .21
[14:08] {Will49} swat/swat/swat
[14:09] {nemo} looking at the 1 minute candles on spy and iwm...can you say "HFT"?
[14:20] {nemo}  Frickin' rabbit.  I keep a couple of treats under my pillow, so if she hops up in the middle of the night, I give her one.  Well, she figured out they're under the pillow.  Middle of the night I feel this "whack" coming from behind me.  She's smacking her head against the pillow trying to get to the treats
01[14:20] {Threei}  closed last piece of JPM
[14:20] {patel} come on DG
[14:26] {scottie} DHI s 24 ?
01[14:26] {Threei}  hl
[14:26] {dino} idcc sm l .29
01[14:34] {Threei}  DG 1:1 puts me at breakeven for the day
[14:34] {dino} gj
[14:34] {scottie} same here tks vad
[14:34] {jdetente} slightly under for the day...
[14:34] {jdetente} but not painful
[14:35] {patel} same here
[14:35] {Will49} yea
[14:35] {patel} 1 more trade should get me green
[14:35] {dino} up decent, but had good morning
[14:36] {patel} Think I can squeeze 1:2 out of DG
[14:37] {patel} out of DG now
01[14:38] {Threei}  and that's what separates men from boys... show not how youhandle winning but how you handle losing
[14:39] {patel} patience pays off. I dug a hole pretty deep but slowly covering the hole.
01[14:40] {Threei}  DHI works too
[14:41] {scottie} out DHI +.09
[14:41] {scottie} Now I can see some green :)
01[14:41] {Threei}  good
[14:46] {dino} gj
[14:46] {scottie} ty
01[14:52] {Threei}  trying to get a feel for direction of the last hour
01[14:55] {Threei}  jeez
01[14:55] {Threei}  some e-mails are beyond belief
01[14:56] {Threei}  pasting as it is, grammar, warts and all
01[14:56] {Threei}  I spent a week in Your room and I read all trading logs so I know you place them online without editing, everything as it was. So, your not cheatin. But I don't understand why your not adding the performance track. What are you hiding?
01[14:57] {Threei}  sigh
[14:57] {dino} dw sm s .27
[14:57] {scottie} yes, what are you hiding ?
01[14:57] {Threei}  my best guess would be:
01[14:58] {Threei}  my lack of desire to indulge his laziness - he can calculate the total just as well, right?
[14:58] {scottie} lol
01[14:58] {Threei}  I am at loss of words
01[14:59] {Threei}  guy sees all the calls, compares them to the log,
01[14:59] {Threei}  he knows logs are 100% as it happened in the room, no editing
01[14:59] {Threei}  but he still searching for what I am hiding?
01[14:59] {Threei}  good luck finding that buddy
01[14:59] {Threei}  you have a lifelong quest
[15:00] {jdetente} he must have trouble adding in .10 intervals 
[15:00] {jdetente} lol
01[15:00] {Threei}  and btw, since you are likely to read this long, I am not editing this out eothert
[15:01] {patel} lol
01[15:01] {Threei}  I don't think there is any single room that does this, posting logs for years
01[15:02] {Threei}  yet someone always suspects you cheat somehow
01[15:02] {Threei}  *()&^%#$*
[15:03] {Will49} Illegitimi non carborundum
[15:03] {scottie} Are you the new pope ?
[15:03] {Will49} ha
01[15:04] {Threei}  lol
[15:04] {Will49} I'm also too old for the job
[15:04] {Will49} and not a Catholic
[15:04] {Will49} guess I better not apply
01[15:05] {Threei}  then tell them not to count on you?
01[15:05] {Threei}  sorry, old russian joke :)
[15:05] {dino} idcc stop -.30
[15:05] {scottie} lol
01[15:06] {Threei}  guy comes in the office that placed hiring ad "needed: 30-40 years old, bachelor degree, must speak English, German, French"
01[15:07] {Threei}  manager, looking at this 60 years olg, disheveled man: you want to tell me you under 40??
01[15:07] {Threei}  - no
01[15:07] {Threei}  educated?
01[15:07] {Threei}  - what are you talking about barely high school
01[15:07] {Threei}  speaking any languages?
01[15:08] {Threei}  - no, not at all
01[15:08] {Threei}  why are you here??
01[15:08] {Threei}  - just came in to tell you, you can't count on me...
[15:08] {Will49} lol
[15:08] {scottie} haha
[15:08] {jdetente} haha
[15:08] {patel} ha
[15:12] {dino} cov dw .cov dw .99 ave, +.28
01[15:13] {Threei}  not too shabby
[15:13] {scottie} gj dino
01[15:14] {Threei}  back to Will's sound advice... I usually do not let Illegitimi to carborundum me... but idiocy still irritates me :)
[15:15] {dino} ty
01[15:16] {Threei} Long Setup:  FAZ  .65 break
01[15:16] {Threei}  If holds  .60 
[15:16] {nemo} or short FAS for the adrenaline rush
01[15:17] {Threei}  can't
[15:17] {nemo} have them do a locate
01[15:18] {Threei}  not worth the hassle
01[15:18] {Threei}  there are many other ways to play the downside in finnies
[15:18] {patel} What does this mean "Reg SHO Threshold Security"?
[15:19] {patel} this is what I get when I try to short FAS
01[15:19] {Threei}  unavailable for shorting
[15:19] {thomcbell} short restricted
[15:19] {nemo} not right, just labeled that way in the software...it's shortable
01[15:20] {Threei}  it's shortable if your broker has inventory to lend
01[15:20] {Threei}  most don't
[15:20] {nemo} right
01[15:20] {Threei}  these pairs were designed to work in, umm, pairs
01[15:20] {Threei}  you want long, buy one of them,
01[15:20] {Threei}  you want short, buy another
01[15:21] {Threei}  FAS/FAZ, TNA/TZA
[15:21] {nemo} yeah, but why bother buying FAZ, you need 10k shares to make anything
01[15:21] {Threei}  so shoert GS
01[15:21] {Threei}  or JPM
[15:21] {nemo} your broker will be thrilled and you need .02 to break even
01[15:21] {Threei}  or WFC
01[15:27] {Threei}  disregard FAZ
01[15:27] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .20 break
01[15:27] {Threei}  If holds  .25 
01[15:35] {Threei}  meh
[15:40] {dino} htsi spike
[15:42] {dino} sm s .85
[15:44] {dino} cov .50, +.35
[15:45] {dino} probably too soon
01[15:45] {Threei}  CAT rinse... bastard
[15:45] {patel} SOB
[15:47] {dino} htsi sm s .99
[15:50] {dino} stopped .15 -.16
01[15:51] {Threei}  Ok guys, not really a profitable day, first in two a half weeks, but I am not unhappy with it
01[15:51] {Threei}  righted what looked really bad in the morning
[15:51] {Will49} Can't win 'em all Vad
01[15:51] {Threei}  in cold blood and with good discipline
01[15:51] {Threei}  nope, gotta make losing ones small
[15:51] {Will49} amen
01[15:51] {Threei}  and hanfle them with no emotion and lasting damage
01[15:52] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
[15:52] {thomcbell} yes - i had my first down day in about 3 weeks 
01[15:52] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:52] {thomcbell} knock on wood - 
[15:52] {Will49} Asta La Vista people
[15:52] {thomcbell} good night all
[15:52] {scottie} gn
[15:52] {dino} calling it a day, thx all
[15:56] {jdetente} gn everyone
[15:57] {patel} gn