Nov 26 2012

Quiet low volume day, slightly positive after two back-to-back 1:2 wins at the end of the day.

Session Time: Mon Nov 26 00:00:00 2012

[09:01] {scottie} good morning

01[09:02] {Threei}  morning scottie

01[09:06] {Threei}  some finally start admitting that debt that can't be repaid, won't

01[09:06] {Threei}  "But last Tuesday Lagarde... insisted, creditor countries would have to forgive the government in Athens a large share of its debt. "Nothing else will work," Lagarde said.

01[09:16] {Threei}  (GR) Germany Dep Fin Min Kampeter: 16 Euro members have rejected the OSI debt writedown for Greece, not just Germany in opposition- No need for additional Greek austerity measures - Euro currency will continue to exist in 5 year time

01[09:16] {Threei}  hmmm... this is interesting bet to take

[09:17] {thomcbell} FB

01[09:17] {Threei}  just won't quit, eh?

[09:17] {thomcbell} big respected firm upgrade - Bernstein 

[09:17] {thomcbell} said all the right things 

[09:17] {thomcbell} $23 to $33 based on monetizing mobile and revenue growth 

01[09:18] {Threei}  that's wide range

01[09:18] {Threei}  one thing may work against it all - its users come to hate it

01[09:19] {Threei}  if credible alternative appears, FB may find itself facing Myspace fate... the place emptied almost overnight

[09:19] {Beau} good morning

01[09:19] {Threei}  Beau :)

[09:20] {Will49} gm

[09:20] {cipher} gm

01[09:23] {Threei}  will, cipher :)

[09:29] {Les} hi

01[09:29] {Threei}  les :)

01[09:29] {Threei}  FB on watch for pullback

01[09:29] {Threei}  long entries for now on it

[09:30] {thomcbell} pullback from 24.82 went to about 24.64

01[09:31] {Threei}  SLW for long too

01[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .90 break

01[09:31] {Threei}  If holds  .80 

01[09:33] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .95 break

01[09:33] {Threei}  If holds  .90 

01[09:35] {Threei}  half out SLW .04

01[09:36] {Threei}  FB 1:1

[09:36] {thomcbell} jpm very weak

[09:37] {thomcbell} big FB offers right at 25 

01[09:37] {Threei}  SLW, scalpers win

01[09:37] {Threei}  FB should take it easily

[09:37] {nemo} spy chopping

[09:39] {Les} faded slw long .98 cover half .90

[09:39] {thomcbell} $25.05 ish was pre-market high on FB

[09:40] {nemo} deck

01[09:40] {Threei} Long Setup:  RG  .50 break hl

01[09:40] {Threei}  grrr.. late

01[09:41] {Threei}  RIG that was

01[09:41] {Threei}  (CA) Canada Fin Min Flaherty to hold new conf at 10:30ET; no topic announced

[09:41] {Les} 1:2 slw full cover continue on paper

01[09:42] {Threei}  movie review I assume

01[09:42] {Threei}  SPY looks a bit psychotic today

01[09:43] {Threei}  FB should be good for 1:5

[09:44] {scottie} FB went down to .87, I got out at .88 !

01[09:44] {Threei}  1:2

[09:44] {scottie} What did I do wrong ?

01[09:44] {Threei}  nothing really, it was a discretionary moment

01[09:45] {Threei}  it dove so fast and bpunced back so furiously

01[09:45] {Threei}  often can be discounted as accidental move

[09:45] {nemo} slw above .85

01[09:45] {Threei}  1:3

[09:46] {nemo} fb may close the gap and go momo should hold a piece

01[09:46] {Threei}  look at it this way:

01[09:46] {Threei}  1:4

01[09:47] {Threei}  there are rules, and there is experience that helps you decide when the rules can be broken

[09:47] {thomcbell} nice freakin job Bad

01[09:47] {Threei}  in absence of that exprience, follow thwe rules

[09:47] {thomcbell} Vad

01[09:47] {Threei}  it takes time

[09:47] {nemo} slw 1:1

01[09:47] {Threei}  ty

01[09:48] {Threei}  out in full

01[09:48] {Threei}  .36

01[09:48] {Threei}  almost 1:5

[09:48] {cipher} wtg

01[09:48] {Threei}  ty

[09:49] {nemo} another entry fb above .40

[09:49] {Will49} nice call Vad

01[09:49] {Threei}  not sure about that one nemo... becomes a little hysterical

[09:49] {scottie} Nice call should've stayed in

01[09:49] {Threei}  can go either way, and fast

[09:49] {Will49} me too

[09:49] {nemo} yeah, it's gonna momo to the gap

[09:50] {nemo} those long tails below, they're trying to whack stops

[09:50] {nemo} they drop out right to the same level

[09:51] {nemo} wow, that's amazing

[09:52] {nemo} that's some funny action

[09:52] {Les} crap pulled out after .05 with those funny tails

[09:53] {Les} my p&l was telling me I was .35 in the red

[09:53] {cipher} s fb .80

[09:53] {Will49} tks nemo +.35

[09:54] {cipher} cov .70

[09:54] {thomcbell} the guy with the upgrade is about to go onto Bloomberg radio sortly

[09:54] {thomcbell} shortly

[09:54] {thomcbell} if he qualifies comments it could be a decent retrace

[09:54] {cipher} my p&l is off too

[09:55] {cipher} but only while pos is on

[09:55] {cipher} then it recalculates

01[09:56] {Threei}  only on FB btw

[09:56] {cipher} yes

01[09:56] {Threei}  there was some interruption in its vhart

01[09:56] {Threei}  chart

01[09:56] {Threei}  while Level 2 and T&S remained fine

[09:57] {cipher} charting couldn't keep up

[09:57] {scottie} Same here

01[09:58] {Threei}  nice top nail cipher

[09:58] {cipher} yeah but chickened out

01[09:58] {Threei}  can't blame you

01[09:59] {Threei}  these thing are like freight train

[09:59] {cipher} yep

01[09:59] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .70 break

01[10:00] {Threei}  no go

01[10:00] {Threei}  SPY another spasm

01[10:03] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  44 break

01[10:03] {Threei}  If holds  .10 

[10:03] {cipher} cat l .49

[10:04] {cipher} out 1/2 cat .60

[10:05] {cipher} out in full .68 

01[10:06] {Threei}  nice

01[10:06] {Threei}  I was looking at it a few times, never saw entry to call

01[10:09] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .70 break

01[10:09] {Threei}  LVS is valid

01[10:10] {Threei}  FB stop .76

01[10:10] {Threei}  let's keep it tight

01[10:11] {Threei}  better be live chicken than dead lion

[10:11] {Will49} :0

[10:12] {Will49} :)

01[10:12] {Threei}  half out FB

01[10:12] {Threei}  stop .72

01[10:13] {Threei}  scalpers win

01[10:13] {Threei}  tough thing to short

01[10:14] {Threei}  LVS stop .06

[10:15] {Les} l tza .15 stop below .10

01[10:15] {Threei}  1:1

01[10:17] {Threei}  (GR) Greece PM said to need a decision on the loan tranche today; Govt may collapse if an agreement is not reached on the �31.5B

01[10:18] {Threei}  collapse already please

[10:18] {Will49} could be Zorba's last dance

01[10:18] {Threei}  now, fate of EU seems to be dependent on the size of bladders:

01[10:18] {Threei}  Eurogroup to take 1 hour break for technical work before returning to meetings on Greece

[10:19] {Les} stop flat spy looking long

[10:23] {Les} indexes holding on by skin of their teeth

01[10:25] {Threei}  LVS is ready for second leg

[10:27] {nemo} this is long setup spy iwm, gonna' test the other side of the rainge soon

[10:27] {nemo} range

[10:27] {nemo} iwm may drop to .33ish

[10:28] {Will49} is LVS two-way?

01[10:28] {Threei}  ?

01[10:28] {Threei}  it's not a new setup

01[10:29] {Threei}  continuation of the short from 44

[10:29] {Will49} tks

[10:30] {thomcbell} short setup FIO 24 break 

[10:30] {thomcbell} if holding 24.10

[10:42] {thomcbell} fIO invalidated

[10:50] {thomcbell} FB very impressive 

01[10:54] {Threei}  48% Think New Tax Money Will Go to New Programs, Not Deficit Reduction

01[10:54] {Threei}  duh

01[10:55] {Threei}  stranger things may have happened but not often: Pravda published article in which it accuses America of being run by communists

[10:57] {Les} takes one to know one

01[10:57] {Threei}  that was my first thought

[10:57] {nemo} yeah saw that and of course coming from them it must be the "Truth"

01[10:58] {Threei}  article overall is bs, and full of bs, but one phrase in it rings true

[10:58] {nemo} Obama is a communist?

01[10:58] {Threei}  no, lol

01[10:59] {Threei}  President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don't they?

[10:59] {nemo} no

01[10:59] {Threei}  During the time of the Soviet Union the role of the state in economy was made absolute, which eventually lead to the total non-competitiveness of the economy. That lesson cost us very dearly. I am sure no one would want history to repeat itself.

01[11:00] {Threei}  then again, in the next breath he says:

01[11:00] {Threei}  Honesty and hard work, responsibility and faith in our strength are bound to bring us success.

01[11:00] {Threei}  which coming from him is beyond funny

01[11:02] {Threei}  grrr LVS

01[11:02] {Threei}  did you have to rinse second half before dropping?

[11:02] {Les} LVS - "yes"

01[11:03] {Threei}  this market drop is tough to play... those guys with small bladders return from their break and announce Greece deal, you don't want to be caught short

01[11:03] {Threei}  they say "no deal today," you don't want to be long

01[11:04] {Threei}  so, gotta wait a little

01[11:05] {Threei}  meanwhile, since I had enough time to work with photos and catch up with my backlog, a few to look at:

01[11:05] {Threei}  http://photography.realitytrader.com/2012/11/family-life-of-great-blue-herons.html

01[11:05] {Threei}  http://photography.realitytrader.com/2012/11/centennial-square-fountain-and-ferris.html

01[11:05] {Threei}  http://photography.realitytrader.com/2012/11/downtown-christmas-lights.html

[11:05] {Les} show em the hotel with the swiss flag

01[11:05] {Threei}  in third link... but you need an eye exam {G}

[11:14] {scottie} ANN s .70 ?

01[11:14] {Threei}  yup, nice setup

01[11:15] {Threei}  and if they postpone decision once again (which is most likely outcome) while trade's in progress, it should be gold

[11:18] {nemo} spxu argualbly long on drop of the low, to retest Friday lows

[11:18] {cipher} +.07 ann thx scottie

[11:19] {nemo} also arguably long here two way

[11:19] {nemo} spy that is

[11:19] {scottie} yw cipher

[11:22] {nemo} I'm seeing alot of red stocks, and the indexes aren't dropping, so they may be using the futures to hold up the indexes

01[11:23] {Threei}  you mean THEY

[11:23] {nemo} of course

01[11:24] {Threei}  EU Budget Is Not Likely to Be Finalized in 2012

[11:24] {nemo} btw...watched the movie "Network" last night, hadn't seen it in a Vad's-age.  What a great movie

[11:25] {nemo} the dialogue is fantastic

01[11:25] {Threei}  what's with socialists not having budgets on both sides of the paddle?

01[11:25] {Threei}  even USSR had them (misreable as they were)

[11:25] {nemo} 5 year plans

01[11:25] {Threei}  US President Obama reportedly to name Elisse Walter as new SEC Chairperson

01[11:37] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .95 break

01[11:38] {Threei}  If holds  ,85 

01[11:42] {Threei}  target 1:3

01[11:42] {Threei}  should break 26 and, ummm... iksplode

[11:43] {Will49} I hopzo

01[11:46] {Threei}  (US) President Obama and House Speaker Boehner were said to have spoken by phone to discuss the fiscal cliff this weekend - financial press- Staff negotiations are said to have continued this weekend as well, talks going slowly. ***Reminder: On Nov 25th, Sen Durbin (D-IL) said that little progress toward resolving fiscal cliff was made over the prior 10 days while Congress was off session

01[11:52] {Threei}  can't tell whether it's losing drive or it's simply a low volume pullback

[11:54] {cc_8} Zhongpin (NASDAQ: HOGS) shares moved up 15.38% to $12.53 at 10:30 am. The volume of Zhongpin shares traded was 1928% higher than normal.

01[12:00] {Threei}  stop

01[12:08] {Threei}  rinse... can't believe it

[12:11] {thomcbell} Hey VAd if it was easy everyone would trade for a living 

01[12:11] {Threei}  oh

[12:11] {thomcbell} hehehe :(

01[12:11] {Threei}  I never thought of it this way

01[12:11] {Threei}  {GGG}

01[12:18] {Threei}  I am willing to give it one more chance

01[12:18] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  26 break

01[12:26] {Threei}  Invalidated  

01[12:28] {Threei}  - Concerns about the fiscal cliff are trumping strong holiday spending this morning. Yesterday key Demcratic Senator Durbin commented that little progress was made toward resolving fiscal cliff during Congressional recess over the past 10 days.

01[12:28] {Threei}  - FX markets have been relatively quiet during as participants await news from the latest Eurogroup meeting on Greece. Achieving debt sustainability for Athens is the continuing goal, although opinions are mixed as to whether a deal is possible today. The current Greek government may fall if a deal is not reached.

01[12:29] {Threei}  may we be so lucky

[12:37] {thomcbell} lvs really got its footing 

01[12:46] {Threei} Short Setup: ALK  .40 break hl

01[12:46] {Threei}  If holds  .50 

01[12:57] {Threei}  sigh

01[12:57] {Threei}  action stopped

[13:00] {scottie} EBAY l .60 ?

01[13:00] {Threei}  short side looks better to me

[13:00] {scottie} ok

01[13:01] {Threei} Short Setup: MHP  .50 break hl

01[13:11] {Threei}  (GR) ECB said to be open to idea of re-accepting Greek govt bonds as collateral if the Greece aid tranche is approved - financial press- ECB also said to be considering options helping Greece reduce its funding gap, including the idea of a Greek bond rollover and buyback, or using investment portfolio profits to buy Greek bonds

01[13:13] {Threei}  France Industrial Min Montebourg said that the government is working on a temporary nationalization of MT's steelworks Florange and said it does not want to see Mittal continue operations in France. ArcelorMittal and the French government have been at odds for months over the company's plan to shut down two blast furnaces in Florange

01[13:13] {Threei}  nice

01[13:13] {Threei}  1:1

01[13:22] {Threei} Long Setup:  LOW  .20 break

01[13:23] {Threei}  If holds  .15 

01[13:23] {Threei}  if loses .15, rather look for aggressive entry

01[13:23] {Threei}  around .10

01[13:26] {Threei}  (GR) IMF said to be seeking EMU cut to Greece debt of approx 20%/GDP immediately, with additional cuts at a later date - financial press

01[13:27] {Threei}  isn't it funny... they seek toforgive Greece debt in order to be able to give it more loans

01[13:27] {Threei}  I presume to forgive them too later

01[13:28] {Threei}  all the while Germany says our parlament won't allow it

[13:30] {nemo} verdammten Kreuter

[13:36] {nemo} if aapl breaks to new highs, indexes likely have a prty

[13:41] {scottie} FL l .85 ?

[13:42] {scottie} late

01[13:42] {Threei}  if pulls back to around .80, secondary entey

[13:44] {scottie} in .86

[13:47] {scottie} tears over ebay

06[13:48] * Threei passes scottie a tissue

01[13:48] {Threei}  don't hold the whole box though, O need some too

[13:48] {scottie} should be more confident with my setups

01[13:48] {Threei}  O=I

01[13:49] {Threei}  FL works

[13:50] {scottie} half out

[13:50] {nemo} iwm and spy long here

[13:52] {scottie} out in full

01[14:06] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .90 break

01[14:08] {Threei}  formed top, formed descending channel.. if this is not a short, I dunno what is

01[14:09] {Threei}  jeez, will, stop feeding that cat, it'll never leave

01[14:09] {Threei}  A cougar sighting in James Bay this morning... police are patrolling the area

[14:10] {Will49} They sighted my wife

[14:10] {Will49} gotta keep her in the house

01[14:14] {Threei}  change FB to 26 break

01[14:17] {Threei}  (US) President Obama to meet with corporate CEOs on Wed, Nov 28th to discuss budget issues - financial press ***Note that Obama and various CEOs met two weeks ago to discuss the impact of the fiscal cliff.

01[14:17] {Threei}  (US) Senate Majority Leader Reid (D-NV): Optimistic a deal can be reached to avert the fiscal cliff; urges House to pass Senate tax-cut bill - Senate Minority Leader McConnell (R-KY): Focus of budget talks must be on cutting spending, Republicans are open to new revenue with the promise of entitlement reform

01[14:23] {Threei}  give me 1:3 FB

01[14:30] {Threei}  1:1

[14:47] {Les} news JPM?

01[14:49] {Threei}  nothing fresh

01[14:49] {Threei}  looks to me long on .60 break

[14:51] {Les} l tna just noticed the finnies lagging

01[15:09] {Threei}  JPM 1:1

01[15:11] {Threei}  anyone's breathing?

[15:12] {cc_8} yes

[15:12] {Will49} barely

[15:12] {scottie} no

[15:12] {Les} considering it

[15:12] {Will49} kind of a breatless day

[15:12] {Will49} breathless

[15:13] {Will49} might also be a breastless day

01[15:14] {Threei}  hmmm

01[15:14] {Threei}  I refuse to have this kind of day

[15:14] {Will49} lol

01[15:14] {Threei}  1:2 FB

01[15:15] {Threei}  with these two life becomes better

01[15:17] {Threei}  how considerate: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood calls off Tuesday demonstration in support of President Morsi to avoid clashes

01[15:25] {Threei}  oh well, no 1:1

[15:25] {scottie} out fb, took +.10 and +.20, tks Vad

01[15:25] {Threei}  :)

01[15:48] {Threei}  come to 1:2 JPM

01[15:50] {Threei}  good boy

01[15:50] {Threei}  out in full

[15:50] {Les} IWM HoD

[15:51] {Will49} CU L8TR guys

01[15:52] {Threei}  thank you all

[15:52] {Les} ciao will

01[15:52] {Threei}  have a good evening

01[15:52] {Threei}  see you tomorrow

[15:52] {Les} cheers

[15:52] {scottie} gn

Market Week Wrap-Up

Markets rebound on hopes that Europe bailouts and Fiscal Cliff can find resolution


After several straight weeks of political concerns exerting downward pressure on equity markets, they snapped back smartly this week. European bourses had their best week of the year, shaking off a Moody's downgrade of France's AAA rating and the EU's failure to agree on a long term budget. Risk on sentiment was attributable to the hopes that leaders in Europe and the US could finally get their houses in order before the New Year. Negotiations on finalizing the revised Greek bailout package continued to grind ahead, with final details expected to be negotiated this weekend ahead of another Eurogroup conclave this coming Monday. This timetable would still allow Greece to receive the anticipated aid tranches in early December. Politicians in Washington were on a holiday break, so optimism from last week's bipartisan Congressional press conference still lingered, though tough negotiations are still ahead. Economic data helped sentiment too, starting with China HSBC Flash Manufacturing PMI on Wednesday posting its first growth reading in 13 months, possibly signaling the slowdown in Chinese growth has bottomed out. The German IFO Business Climate index showed its first rise in seven months, and US saw some more signs of strength in the housing market, with the NAHB Housing Market Index hitting a 6-year high and monthly Housing Starts coming in well above expectations. Trading in crude futures calmed this week as Israel and Hamas agreed to terms of a ceasefire on Wednesday, and so far the truce has held. Gold gained some ground as it tested its 50-day moving average on Friday, to end the week up 2%. Early indications from retailers are that Thanksgiving Day and Black Friday sales have gotten the US holiday shopping season off to a good start. Equity markets erased most of the losses seen in the last two weeks and had their best week since June: the S&P500 rose 3.6%, the Nasdaq added 4%, and the DJIA gained 3.3%, to close above 13,000 for the first time since November 6.

Moody's became the second credit-rating agency to strip France of its AAA rating on Monday evening. Moody's warned that a sustained loss of competitiveness and the failure to tackle structural problems prompted the decision to downgrade France. French Finance Minister Moscovici found a silver lining to the downgrade, claiming it would force leaders to agree to pursue reforms, however the development will have repercussions even though yields on French debt barely wavered in the aftermath of the move. To begin with, Moody's said the downgrade would impact the rating of the ESM/EFSF bailout facilities, and the EFSF was forced to delay the auction of three-year notes on Tuesday.

Hewlett-Packard shares collapsed to near 10-year lows after reporting accounting irregularities at its recently acquired Autonomy unit. On an adjusted basis, HP more or less met expectations in its Q4 results, however revenue fell nearly 7% y/y and after charges the firm racked up a huge quarterly loss, and Q1 EPS guidance was well below expectations. The firm took an $8.8B 'kitchen sink' charge in the quarter, blaming $5B of that on "serious accounting improprieties and outright misrepresentations" at Autonomy Corporation, which it acquired last fall. CEO Whitman said the board's due diligence had relied on financials audited by Deloitte, and said management had brought the accounting issue to the attention of US and UK regulators. A spokesman for the former Autonomy CEO shot back, saying the allegations were totally false and the due diligence was intensive.

Best Buy also had a terrible quarter, missing earnings targets by a very wide margin in its Q3 report. Overall sales were down on y/y basis and comps were equally bad. Executives continue to blame the poor overall economic environment, competition from online sites and customers holding back on purchases ahead of new product launches. Investors were clearly disappointed with Deer & Co Q4 results as well. Shares slid 4% after coming up short of consensus estimates on the bottom line and offering conservative guidance for 2013.

Saleforce.com was a noticeable bright spot among the week's earnings reports. Shares rose 8% after reporting Q3 earnings and sales exceeded expectations and the CEO said that the strong response to next generation cloud technologies will enable the company to surpass a $4B annual revenue run rate next year.

Energy markets went for a bit of a ride as traders watched headlines out of the Mideast closely. On Monday, the violence escalated as Israel bombed strategic targets in Gaza city and Hamas continued to lob rockets toward major population centers. As Israel called up tens of thousands of reservists in what was seen as a prelude to a ground incursion into Gaza, the rhetoric on both sides did little to quell the speculation of a larger conflict and oil prices rose sharply. By mid-week reports began to surface that the new Egyptian President had brokered a cease fire and as a result energy prices backed off, despite US stockpile data from both the API and EIA that indicated large draw downs across all three categories. For the week WTI and Brent each finished up more than 1.5%, but well off the Monday highs.

US Treasury markets spent much of the week on the defensive. Some speculated traders were unwinding positions ahead of thinner holiday shortened trade, as well as potentially reacting to some of the more positive comments made by Fed Chairman Bernanke. On Tuesday the Chairman suggested the financial crisis lowered the potential of US GDP growth below 2.5% and reiterated that the Fed has no means of offsetting the fiscal cliff, so Washington needs to find a solution. He also noted that a resolution to the fiscal cliff would have a positive impact on growth and the housing market has seen clear signs of improvement.

In Forex markets, the week began with a rise in risk appetite as sentiment that negotiations on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff were productive which weighed upon the USD and JPY currencies. The EUR/USD started the week with a move over 1.2780 level. The currency was able to shake-off the French sovereign downgrade with growing optimism that Eurogroup would soon reach an acceptable agreement on Greece debt sustainability in order to release the next tranche payment before the country goes bankrupt in mid-December. The FX market was betting on a Greek solution with the Greek 10-year yield falling below the 16% level for its best post debt restructuring reading and the EUR/USD found the momentum to sustain a move above its 200-day moving average at 1.2804. The pair hit a 3-week high at 1.2915 after Friday's German IFO Survey registered its first month over month improvement in seven months.

The USD/JPY pair hit fresh 7-month highs while EUR/JPY cross tested above the 106 handle for 6-month highs. A number of factors were cited for the weaker JPY currency including a wider than expected Japan merchandise deficit, Japanese LDP opposition election platform and dealer chatter of M&A flows with rumor that Softbank had started buying USD for acquisition of Sprint with cited. The JPY was off its worst levels by Friday after LDP opposition leader Abe changed his FX intervention rhetoric that he was not thinking of currency intervention to weaken the JPY currency and wanted the BOJ to address strong yen through monetary policy.



  TradeTheNews

Nov 21 2012

Pretty much empty day with narrow range, lacking in both volatility and volume. We decided to skip Friday as trading is not likely to offer much on that half-day, so Monday Nov 26 is the next trading session.


Session Time: Wed Nov 21 00:00:00 2012
01[09:02] {Threei}  robbers... http://goo.gl/f5eVC
[09:05] {dino} gm
01[09:05] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:12] {scottie} good morning
01[09:12] {Threei}  scottie :)
01[09:12] {Threei}  how's your wife?
[09:12] {scottie} She's OK now, but have to go back to the doctor this afternoon, tks for asking
[09:12] {cipher} gm
01[09:13] {Threei}  good to hear
01[09:13] {Threei}  cipher :)
[09:18] {Will49} gm
[09:18] {Beau} good morning
01[09:19] {Threei}  will, beau :)
[09:19] {Will49} This is a full day of trading right?
[09:20] {Will49} should say....trading, right?
01[09:20] {Threei}  yes, lol
01[09:21] {Threei}  so, anyone ever found themselves being shout at by a hummingbird?
01[09:21] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/f5eVC
[09:22] {Will49} excellent!
01[09:22] {Threei}  she was really scandalous
[09:22] {Will49} it is giving you the evil eye
[09:23] {Will49} how do you know it's a "she"?
01[09:23] {Threei}  that's nothing... when I came out to take the empty feeder off, two of them were really agnry
01[09:23] {Threei}  one was chirping in higher pitch... I assumed it was a she
[09:23] {Will49} :)
01[09:24] {Threei}  and when I was hanging refilled feeder back, one of them hovered less than 1 ft from my ear
[09:24] {Will49} eyeing your beard as a nesting place
01[09:25] {Threei}  lol
[09:27] {Raven} sigh
[09:27] {robbers} lol Will.
01[09:28] {Threei}  Raven... you don't consider them birds or what? :)
[09:28] {Raven} lol ... good story
[09:29] {ese} morning
01[09:29] {Threei}  robbers, you don't have facebook account?
01[09:29] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:30] {ese} neither do I
[09:30] {robbers} Yeah, just don't use it much, but I saw your photos yesterday.
[09:30] {Les} afternoon
[09:30] {ese} les
01[09:30] {Threei}  Les :)
[09:30] {Les} good evening and goodnight
01[09:30] {Threei}  you can subscribe to mine to see the updates
[09:30] {ese} afternoon?
[09:30] {ese} or ya right
[09:31] {ese} your on the other side
01[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .25 break hl
01[09:31] {Threei}  If holds  .35
01[09:32] {Threei}  trail to .31
01[09:33] {Threei}  out
[09:34] {ese} wow....that was interesting that one
[09:34] {Les} wow opened fusion with FB on screen...
01[09:35] {Threei}  rinse
01[09:35] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .40 break
[09:36] {Will49} ripper
[09:36] {Les} .70 half pivot
[09:36] {Les} .85 r3
01[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .60 break
01[09:36] {Threei}  If holds  .70
[09:37] {Les} 2nd entry?
01[09:37] {Threei}  on the same setup
01[09:38] {Threei}  FCX is dirty rotten scoundrel
[09:39] {Les} seen that film once
01[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .05 break
01[09:39] {Threei}  If holds  .15
[09:39] {dino} funny movie
01[09:40] {Threei}  both invalidated
[09:42] {ese} L btu .01
[09:42] {dino} clf hl l .68
01[09:43] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIG  .30 break hl
01[09:43] {Threei}  If holds  .20
01[09:43] {Threei}  Invalidated
[09:43] {Les} damn no .85 dt to work with on FB
[09:44] {Les} unless those two 1 min. candles was it?
01[09:44] {Threei}  meh
[09:44] {Will49} is this market fast cause neom's away? :)
01[09:44] {Threei}  questionable setup
[09:44] {Les} k
[09:44] {Les} last thing i want
[09:44] {Will49} nemo
[09:45] {dino} clf stop -.24
[09:46] {ese} hmmmmmmm...wondering if I should have at least taken 1/2 at .15 to .17
[09:46] {ese} out .01 +/- .00
[09:47] {Les} vwap is here ese.
[09:47] {dino} ppo spike, thinny
[09:47] {ese} ya see that.......sypders going against me
01[09:48] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .70 break
[09:48] {ese} error in judgement on my part this morning
01[09:48] {Threei}  If holds  .80
01[09:49] {Threei}  change to .75 break
01[09:49] {Threei}  If holds  .85
[09:49] {ese} L btu .94
[09:50] {ese} agressive entry
01[09:50] {Threei}  this is valid double top
[09:51] {ese} \counting on sypders
[09:51] {Les} dt or lower high?
[09:51] {dino} de gap around 81.26
01[09:51] {Threei}  both
[09:51] {ese} yup
01[09:51] {Threei}  double top with lower second top
[09:51] {Les} k
01[09:52] {Threei}  1 cent to 1:1... if very skittish, trail stop to .82
[09:54] {Les} out and back in and half out
[09:54] {ese} rats stopped .79 -,16
[09:54] {ese} btu
[09:54] {ese} was a good run for a week and a bit
[09:54] {dino} zlc hl l .21
01[09:55] {Threei}  *(US) NOV FINAL UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 82.7 V 84.5E
01[09:55] {Threei} Long Setup:  AIG  .40 break
[09:56] {ese} in .40
[09:56] {ese} agressive
[09:57] {ese} my personality this morning what can i say
01[09:57] {Threei}  kind of that hummingbird....
[09:57] {ese} ?
01[09:57] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/f5eVC
01[09:58] {Threei}  yelled at me for not refilling its feeder in time
[09:58] {ese} awesome picture
[09:59] {ese} aig .35 stop
[09:59] {Les} out FB 2nd half flat. feels like new break coming
01[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) OCT LEADING INDICATORS: 0.2% V 0.1%E
[10:00] {ese} stopped aig .35 -.05
[10:00] {Les} on the booze already ya bum
[10:01] {nemo} Of course...I'm in south jersey
[10:01] {ese} hmmmmmmmm......it's one of dem days
[10:01] {nemo} strated drinking at 2:38 am when I got here
[10:01] {Les} wasn't that state washed into the sea?
[10:01] {nemo} up near NY, yeah
01[10:01] {Threei}  you must really like your brokwer ese... buying before trigger, selling before stop :)
[10:02] {ese} .05 was good for the number of shs i had going
[10:02] {ese} and no.........can't stand them
01[10:03] {Threei}  - Conference Board: "Based on current trends, the economy will continue to expand modestly through the early months of 2013. Hurricane Sandy, which is not yet fully reflected in the LEI, will likely adversely affect consumer spending and home building in the short-term, but it's too soon to gauge the net impact. In addition, the outcome of the fiscal cliff debates is another factor which could alter the outlook."
[10:03] {ese} these days come along periodically...........one has be to at one with them..........
[10:03] {ese} did I just that........i have to be nuts
[10:04] {thomcbell} fb feels higher
01[10:04] {Threei}  yeah
[10:06] {dino} zlc to .44
01[10:06] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .90 break
[10:06] {dino} 07 red
01[10:06] {Threei}  If holds  .80
[10:07] {dino} still red
[10:08] {ese} Les........you using free stock charts for vwap calculation........thats what i've been using since nemo put me on to it
[10:08] {Les} cool
[10:08] {ese} .com
[10:08] {dino} me too ese
01[10:08] {Threei}  come on kitty, move
[10:09] {ese} it's a great deal
01[10:09] {Threei}  wityh any SPY bounce 1:2 at least, possibly 1:3
[10:09] {ese} free
[10:09] {dino} cannot get better
01[10:09] {Threei}  come on guys... of copurse it can
01[10:10] {Threei}  they can pay you for using them
[10:10] {dino} zlc to .49
01[10:10] {Threei}  why do you settle
01[10:10] {Threei}  demand what's rightfully yours
01[10:10] {Threei}  write to them and insist on 5K a month for using their site
[10:10] {dino} to .59
[10:11] {dino} out zlc slippage. 58, +.37
[10:15] {ese} gotta go all......have a great day....see you tomorrow
01[10:15] {Threei}  1:1
01[10:15] {Threei}  take care ese
[10:18] {thomcbell} long small fb looking for 24.10
01[10:18] {Threei}  AIG is valid again
01[10:18] {Threei}  thought of pullback entry but it never gave any setup there
[10:19] {Les} ditto thomc
01[10:19] {Threei}  clear sky above, CAT
01[10:20] {Threei}  1:2
[10:20] {scottie} cat +.18 tks Vad
01[10:20] {Threei}  :)
[10:20] {Will49} .21 tks
01[10:21] {Threei}  yw
01[10:22] {Threei}  1:3, out
[10:23] {Les} out fb flat
01[10:27] {Threei}  (IR) Iran Central Bank: have significantly increased gold reserves, have avoided major negative impacts to the economy from international sanctions
[10:27] {Les} l tna .95
[10:27] {Les} half out .05
[10:27] {Les} stop to b/e
[10:28] {nemo} what's volume like this morning?
01[10:29] {Threei}  not catastrophically low but on a lowish side
[10:30] {Will49} wow... 6 syllables!
[10:31] {Will49} high of the day
01[10:31] {Threei}  hmmm
01[10:31] {Threei}  I need to back off
01[10:31] {Threei}  speak in singles
[10:31] {Les} all out .98
[10:31] {Les} think we go lower
01[10:32] {Threei}  look at CAT
[10:33] {Will49} no...i refuse
01[10:33] {Threei}  I understand
01[10:33] {Threei}  dog people might not want to
[10:34] {nemo} tree good fire bad
01[10:34] {Threei}  yes
01[10:35] {Threei}  that's my neanderthal speak
[10:35] {nemo} Can't remember the last time I started drinking at 3 am
[10:35] {Will49} no wonder you can't remember
[10:35] {Les} why didn't u just stay at home and drink?
[10:36] {Will49} scottie and I kick the CAT
[10:36] {dino} 7 hour shift, thats pretty good nemo
01[10:36] {Threei}  1:frikin 7
[10:37] {Les} crap so much for me thinking
[10:38] {nemo} huh?  visit this side of the family on Thanksgiving...they can put up with me for a couple of days once a year
[10:38] {Les} you've got family?
01[10:38] {Threei}  but they expect medal for that
[10:39] {nemo} Yeah, once in a while one or two of them end up institutionalized for a week or two
[10:39] {thomcbell} out FB
01[10:39] {Threei}  wtg
[10:40] {nemo} I'm looking at FSC...pretty quiet
[10:40] {nemo} looks like a short might be setting up on spy spxu
01[10:41] {Threei} Long Setup:  BBY  .70 break
01[10:41] {Threei}  oops, late
[10:41] {nemo} tza here if it breaks trend, only think iwm pivot at .11
01[10:41] {Threei}  ok, valid
01[10:41] {Threei}  same setup
01[10:41] {Threei}  stop under .60
01[10:41] {Threei}  target 1:2
01[10:43] {Threei}  nope
[10:45] {scottie} GME l .75
[10:46] {scottie} ?
01[10:46] {Threei}  I'd rather try for aggressive near .70 with stop undr .65
01[10:47] {Threei}  late for that...
[10:47] {Les} TZA long here?
[10:48] {Les} .91?
01[10:48] {Threei}  can't tell
01[10:48] {Threei}  no firm read on SPY
[10:49] {scottie} swn l .10 ?
01[10:50] {Threei}  chart is right... market is near the lows...
[10:50] {dino} sm l bidu .05
[10:50] {scottie} missed it
01[10:54] {Threei}  LOL:
01[10:54] {Threei}  PIMCO ?@PIMCO
01[10:54] {Threei}  Gross: OBAMA pardons the wrong Turkey. Congress with its fiscal cliff and debt ceiling antics should have been eaten on Nov 6th.
[10:55] {nemo} looking like no momentum either way...surprse
[10:56] {dino} gut says up
[10:57] {dino} out bidu .45, +.40
01[10:57] {Threei}  mine is totally silent
[10:57] {dino} actually hungry, ran out of peanuts
[10:57] {Les} got 3 min bullish divergence on spy. could be up
[10:59] {dino} lxu drop thinny
[11:00] {Les} VWAP is serving as resistance for every attempt SPY makes
[11:01] {scottie} ev l .60 if holds .50 ?
01[11:02] {Threei}  yes, but from under .50 would be even better
01[11:02] {Threei}  if holds .40 of course
[11:03] {scottie} in .52
[11:10] {dino} tlys l .81
[11:13] {dino} lxu drop
[11:15] {scottie} out -.15
[11:16] {dino} lxu sm l .85
[11:17] {Les} RIG
01[11:21] {Threei}  - US stock trading is fairly quiet ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday. Indices opened near the flat line despite EU and IMF officials being unable to come to a resolution on Greece at last night's finance ministers meeting. US Treasury markets are seeing some selling for the second straight session as some speculate traders are unwinding positions ahead of thinner holiday trade, as well as potentially reacting to some of the more positive comments made by Fed Chairman Bernanke yesterday. Reminder, US stock and bond markets are closed tomorrow and both close early on Friday
01[11:22] {Threei}  which btw requires a decision by us
01[11:22] {Threei}  do we want Fri trading?
[11:22] {nemo} interesting...financials are weak
[11:22] {nemo} no
01[11:22] {Threei}  your decision guys
[11:23] {nemo} that will be a lesson in futility unless something blows up
[11:23] {dino} most likely not
01[11:23] {Threei}  who wants to trade half day on Fri, raise your hand
01[11:23] {Threei}  if none are raised, I'll sleep in
[11:23] {Will49} no preference
[11:24] {Will49} why not trade?
[11:24] {scottie} long weekend is ok for me
01[11:25] {Threei}  not very likely to produce any readable activity will
[11:25] {Will49} ok then, i vote to sleep in
01[11:25] {Threei}  half day between the holiday and weekend
01[11:25] {Threei}  turkey-filled stomachs
01[11:25] {Threei}  the only reason the market is open at all is 3 days rule
[11:26] {Will49} and people drinking till 3 am
01[11:26] {Threei}  right
01[11:26] {Threei}  let's do this:
01[11:26] {Threei}  in Thu evening, or overnight you hear something extraordinary in the news,
01[11:27] {Threei}  like full-blown war, EU self-dissolving, Congress self-dissokving, FED admitting 100 years of gross incompetence,
01[11:27] {Threei}  Justin Bieber marrying Celine Dion
01[11:28] {Threei}  etc
01[11:28] {Threei}  come in
[11:28] {scottie} or Vad not swearing not to eat bacon ever
[11:28] {scottie} Vad swearing
01[11:28] {Threei}  right
01[11:28] {Threei}  otherwise, don't bother
[11:28] {Will49} nemo taking a pledge of abstaining from insults
[11:29] {Will49} although he has mellowed, no?
[11:29] {scottie} NCR l .55 ?
01[11:30] {Threei}  nah, too narrow
[11:30] {scottie} ok
01[11:35] {Threei}  My sense of humor is warped, granted - but surely I can't be the only one who finds this funny:
01[11:35] {Threei}  (GR) According to Troika Baseline Scenario, Greek debt to fall to 144% by 2020 and 133% by 2022, 111% by 2030 from current 170% level without extra debt reduction measures
01[11:35] {Threei}  2030?
01[11:36] {Threei}  "sheik or donkey or I will be dead by then"
[11:36] {dino} why don't they just default?
01[11:37] {Threei}  this is EU... if they can duct-tape the head to the neck, they will
[11:37] {Will49} funny but sad
[11:38] {dino} had to adjust, but out lxu .82, +.40
01[11:38] {Threei}  the very idea that Greece can live like this till 2030 is beyond ludicrous
[11:39] {Will49} they are a case study of "me first" attitude in western societies
01[11:41] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .45 break
01[11:41] {Threei}  If holds  .55
[11:43] {thomcbell} they are trying to break out fb here
[11:43] {thomcbell} pretty powerful pattern on daily chart
01[11:44] {Threei}  yes
[11:44] {scottie} gotta go now, see you all monday
[11:44] {Will49} see ya scottie
01[11:44] {Threei}  take care scottie, best wishes to your wife
[11:45] {scottie} will
[11:45] {scottie} tks Vad
01[11:49] {Threei}  ok guys, there is no financial crisis, or any other kind of crisis... this is all a lie
01[11:49] {Threei}  no nation in times of any kind of crisis can focus on this:
01[11:49] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/F4BhM
[11:52] {Will49} Greeks probably thought that one up
[11:52] {Will49} what would Zorba say?
[11:52] {Les} outta here Vad. Might check in for last hour.
01[11:52] {Threei}  what ever happened to that thing, you know... called sanity
01[11:53] {Threei}  last seen decades ago
[11:53] {Will49} wait till you get a bit older Vad
[11:53] {Will49} and really join the "world is going to hell in a handbasket" set
01[11:53] {Threei}  if my grumpiness will increase at the ame rate as before, not looking forward
[11:54] {Les} "Unless you’ve been there, and you can’t find shoes, and you’re in pain, don’t judge"
[11:54] {nemo} I look forward to anarchy, but I have to buy more bullets first
01[11:54] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .60 break
01[11:54] {Threei}  I'll be right behind you nemo, reloading
01[11:55] {Threei}  zombie apocalypsis seems the be the only thing to look forward to
[11:56] {dino} stj bloody
01[11:58] {Threei}  target 1:2
[12:00] {dino} boil, igaz spikes
[12:01] {Will49} apocalypsis= too much botox in lips
01[12:05] {Threei}  now I understand why there is no word apocabreastsis
[12:05] {Will49} lol
[12:05] {Will49} you DO have a warped sense of humour
[12:06] {Will49} but a very intellectual one
[12:06] {nemo} apocomammaris
[12:06] {nemo} oh jeez
[12:06] {Will49} yes:)
[12:06] {Les} I think we're bored
[12:06] {Will49} ya think?
[12:06] {nemo} Will...he'll hurt himself
[12:07] {Will49} who?
[12:08] {Will49} stop it you guys! I can't concentrate on the 100 shares I have at risk
[12:09] {thomcbell} shortsetup FB 24.40 break if holding 24.50
[12:10] {nemo} our resident Mensa (not) candidate
[12:11] {thomcbell} target 1:2
[12:11] {nemo} ballsy thom
[12:11] {Will49} yahoo half out LVS
01[12:13] {Threei}  1:1
[12:14] {dino} out tlys .94, +.13
[12:20] {thomcbell} fb invalidated
[12:24] {nemo} usually don't see selling pressure on days like today
01[12:24] {Threei}  no
01[12:25] {Threei}  they tend to levitate
[12:25] {dino} lol, this market hasn't been usual in years
[12:25] {nemo} you can run prices up without committing too much capital
[12:25] {dino} never any afternoon volume
[12:25] {nemo} of course it's usual
[12:25] {nemo} well, can't compare 2007-2010 to "usual"
[12:26] {nemo} I remember the first cracks in February 2007 when the mortgage companies started to go
[12:26] {dino} yeah, they were some crazy days
[12:26] {nemo} those are the ones I wouldn't consider "usual"
[12:26] {dino} i remember -300 pt dji days would happen every week
[12:27] {nemo} Remember coming in limit down?
[12:27] {dino} yes
[12:27] {nemo} or how about taking dramamine just to watch the skf chart
[12:27] {nemo} pre fas/faz days
01[12:27] {Threei}  (IS) Egypt Foreign Min and US Sec of State begin news conference on Gaza; confirm cease fire
[12:27] {Les} FB
[12:27] {thomcbell} duh
[12:28] {thomcbell} had to play it by the book
[12:28] {dino} cease fire until hamas lobs another rocket over
[12:28] {Will49} Hillary for POTUS
[12:28] {Will49} not!
[12:28] {nemo} I was contemplating hunting you down
[12:28] {dino} lol
[12:29] {dino} well it is the season
01[12:29] {Threei}  guess who far left started demonizing over last couple days
[12:29] {nemo} yeah, but I don't have an "idiot" permit
[12:29] {dino} christie?
01[12:29] {Threei}  no... Rubio
01[12:29] {Threei}  mystery to me how ou can demonize him, but they manage
01[12:30] {Threei}  ok read this guys, and tell me, how is it not a digging deeper hole:
01[12:30] {Threei}  ECB said to be satisfied with plan to recapitalize Greece banks - financial press- Under the terms of the plan, viable Greek banks will issue shares and convertible bonds. If private investors fail to buy at least a tenth of the new shares, the lenders will fall under the control of the HFSF, a bailout-financed fund which will buy most of the new shares and all of the convertible bonds. - The banks' new shares are to be priced at a 50 percent discount to the average price 50 days prior to the offering. - Source TradeTheNews.com
[12:31] {Les} deeper hole for who?
[12:31] {Les} looks good for bankers and creditors
[12:31] {dino} in order for greece to ever save itself, it must get out of the euro, so it can devalue (montize) the debt
01[12:32] {Threei}  whoever backs this new credit, Les
[12:32] {Les} well that be us
01[12:32] {Threei}  there you go
[12:32] {Les} bitchin
[12:35] {Les} .30 b/d FB?
01[12:38] {Threei}  hard to tell... none of FB shorts worked yet
[12:38] {thomcbell} feels like u buy every rinse
[12:39] {Les} shorted at .37 before but with only 100 shares wanted VWAP at .00. should have sold and partialed on paper
[12:40] {Les} covered i mena
01[12:43] {Threei}  Egyptian foreign minister announces a cease-fire deal between Israel, Hamas to start at 9 pm Cairo time
01[12:43] {Threei}  that's when Hamas runs out of rockets I presume
01[12:43] {Threei}  need time to restock
[12:56] {Les} LVS .58 short?
[12:56] {Les} forget it
01[12:59] {Threei}  already did
01[13:05] {Threei}  (GR) Germany Fin Min Schaeuble reportedly supported a loan write down for Greece earlier in the week before rescinding support - financial press- Schaeuble supports a debt forgiveness program that is gradual beginning in 2015 assuming Greece keeps its promises
[13:15] {dino} zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[13:16] {dino} not much moving
01[13:21] {Threei}  watching FB for breakout
01[13:25] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .50 break
01[13:25] {Threei}  If holds  .40
01[13:35] {Threei}  we seem to tuck in second place... you guys don't click enough
[13:40] {Les} oops will hop to it
[13:41] {Les} hmmm noticed they're asking first and last name now
01[13:45] {Threei}  hmmm
[13:46] {Les} FB on again?
01[13:48] {Threei}  yes
01[13:48] {Threei}  I use the same registration I have, so they don't ask for anything
01[13:54] {Threei}  guys, anyone interested in options trading, cc_8 is about to start offering that
01[13:56] {Threei}  FB looks better and better for an all-out break
[13:57] {Les} intraday options trading?
01[13:58] {Threei}  why not
[13:59] {Les} enjoyed limited success in 2011 with options
[14:00] {dino} i trade a couple/month
[14:00] {Les} just wondering if there are any amateurs left in the options tank
[14:00] {Les} or sharks only
06[14:08] * Les smacks Nemo around with a 10yr old Macallan triple casked
[14:09] {Les} I am happy to help America celebrate its fets
[14:09] {Les} fetes
[14:11] {Will49} Canadians would like to help you celebrate by sending you some oil thru XL pipeline
[14:16] {Will49} the day XL is approved, we'll then have a second thanksgivivng day to celebrate up here
[14:18] {Les} http://peakenergy.blogspot.ch/2008/02/empire-from-tub-of-goo.html
[14:18] {Les} dunno, looks like more trouble than its worth
[14:19] {Will49} time will tell
[14:19] {Les} sure
[14:20] {Les} personally I think we're all fu/&%d
[14:21] {Will49} you're sounding like someone from my generation
[14:21] {Will49} team Clint Eastwood
01[14:22] {Threei}  tar sands are developing and will be
[14:22] {Les} difference being I'm young enough to see what goes down in 30 years time
01[14:22] {Threei}  if US won't buy the oil, China will
[14:23] {Will49} yeah Vad...you tell that young whippersnapper
[14:23] {Beau} bet a whole dollar XL will approved no later March
01[14:23] {Threei}  I think so too
[14:23] {Will49} no takers on that bet
[14:24] {Les} http://tinyurl.com/bc6dwwj
[14:24] {Les} just what beijing needs
[14:24] {Les} more oil
[14:24] {Will49} customer is always right
[14:24] {Beau} the terminus is 7 miles north of here. XL size and requiremets being laid to OK
[14:25] {Beau} Oil from there to here.  if you look at map, very close to proposed XL route
[14:25] {Will49} a thing of beauty
[14:26] {Les} bought our condo next to a light rail station. No regrets when oil has tripled in cost. And oil here is over $6 a gallon
[14:26] {Will49} gas
[14:26] {Les} petrol
[14:27] {Les} queens english
[14:27] {Will49} $5 here in BC
01[14:28] {Threei}  OK FB
01[14:28] {Threei}  break already
[14:28] {Will49} are we still on for FB?
01[14:28] {Threei}  I think so, it's one of those on again - off again
[14:28] {Will49} no kidding
[14:29] {Les} about $7.20 here now then
01[14:29] {Threei}  this is... hystreically ridiclous:
01[14:30] {Threei}  Celebratory gunfire heard in Gaza after cease-fire agreement
[14:30] {Will49} Hillary for pres
[14:30] {Will49} eh nemo?
01[14:31] {Threei}  Celebratory gunfire for cease-fire agreement
01[14:31] {Threei}  this is right next to "warning shot to the head"
[14:31] {Will49} now that's funny
01[14:32] {Threei}  or that famous "new russian" joke...
01[14:32] {Threei}  when a guy phones emergency and shouts "my neighbour is dead! come and help"
01[14:33] {Threei}  operator says "well, first mke sure he is dewad"
01[14:33] {Threei}  guys after some hesitance says OK, operator heard gunshot, guy says "now I am totaly sure"
[14:33] {Will49} lol
01[14:33] {Threei}  heard = hears
01[14:36] {Threei}  or, "as my grandma always said, better to shoot, reload and shoot again than point your flashlight and ask who is there"
01[14:36] {Threei}  that shoyuld be right up nemo's alley
[14:37] {dino} calling it a week. thx all, have a happy thanksgiving. taking monday & tuesday off
[14:37] {Les} cheers
[14:38] {Will49} have fun dino
01[14:38] {Threei}  have fun dino
[14:38] {dino} thx
[15:01] {Les} enjoying the opening scene of master and margarita
[15:01] {Les} think I'm gonna enjoy this
01[15:02] {Threei}  just wait
01[15:02] {Threei}  you've no idea
[15:02] {Will49} movie?
01[15:02] {Threei}  they don't casll it one of the greatest books ever written for nothing
[15:06] {Les} l .47 spy stop under .40
[15:24] {Les} stop -.01 big fat turkey for market finish
01[15:45] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .90 break
01[15:45] {Threei}  last scalp
01[15:45] {Threei}  If holds  .95
01[15:54] {Threei}  meh
01[15:54] {Threei}  empty day
01[15:54] {Threei}  let's have a long weekend guys
[15:54] {Will49} see ya Monday
01[15:54] {Threei}  happy Thanskgiving
[15:54] {Les} cheers
01[15:54] {Threei}  see you all Monday

Nov 20 2012

Nice day, and this reversal has been nailed with notable precision:

Session Time: Tue Nov 20 00:00:00 2012
[08:54] {nemo} so why is gmcr so happy?
01[08:55] {Threei}  new CEO
[08:57] {scottie} good morning
01[08:57] {Threei}  scottie :)
[08:58] {scottie} My wife was admitted to the hospital last night, so I'll be in and out for a while
[08:58] {thomcbell} hope all is ok Scottie
01[08:59] {Threei}  sorry scottie... hope nothing serious
[08:59] {scottie} Liver problems, she'll run some tests this morning, we should know more from ther
[09:00] {scottie} Leaving now, have a good start
[09:00] {nemo} I know it's against my nature ;-) but, best wishes good luck
[09:00] {dino} gm
01[09:00] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:00] {scottie} thanks nemo, my arms just fell to the floor
01[09:00] {Threei}  best wuishes scottie, let us know
[09:01] {scottie} yep
[09:01] {nemo} don't bump your head when you fall over then
[09:05] {cipher} gm
01[09:05] {Threei}  cipher :)
[09:06] {nemo} o.k.  I think I've recovered
[09:12] {dino} dumb question. my toolbar was changed from microsoft. how do i get it back?
01[09:12] {Threei}  toolbar?
01[09:13] {Threei}  on what program?
[09:13] {dino} somehow aol took over the top line. lost my favorites etc
01[09:13] {Threei}  in browser?
[09:13] {dino} yes
01[09:14] {Threei}  wow... is it IE?
[09:14] {dino} it was
01[09:14] {Threei}  ?
01[09:14] {Threei}  what is it now?? :)
06[09:15] * nemo smacks dino with an anti-microsoft engraved 2x4
[09:15] {nemo} should still be IE, did you download something?
01[09:15] {Threei}  it's the same browser. Internet, Explorer, but the toolbar disappeared?
[09:16] {dino} yes
01[09:16] {Threei}  try right click on the blue bar
01[09:16] {Threei}  in dropdown menu there should be a few toolbars listed
01[09:16] {Threei}  Menu bar
01[09:16] {Threei}  Favorites var
01[09:16] {Threei}  Command bar
[09:16] {Beau} good morning
01[09:17] {Threei}  pick what you need and check it
01[09:17] {Threei}  Beau :)
01[09:17] {Threei}  it should come back
01[09:17] {Threei}  and if there is AOL bar in the list, uncheck it
[09:19] {dino} thanks. can find favs but now must right click for them
01[09:20] {Threei}  heck, if they are not lost it's 3/4 of the battle won
01[09:20] {Threei}  use that menu to configure things, get rid of crap you don't want
[09:20] {ese} morning
01[09:20] {Threei}  also, look for the start on your bars
[09:20] {Will49} gm
01[09:21] {Threei}  ese, will :)
01[09:21] {Threei}  not start, sorry - star
[09:21] {ese} will vad
01[09:21] {Threei}  that's symbol for favorites, icon shortcut
01[09:21] {Threei}  could be they hid behind it
[09:22] {ese} am playing a concert up your way today vad in Sidney......at the Mary Winspear Theatre.........2:30
01[09:22] {Threei}  some event?
[09:22] {ese} Victoria Palm Court Orchestra
01[09:22] {Threei}  so guys, remember I said recently if I were to look for a swing trade, HPQ short would be it?
01[09:22] {Threei}  have a look at it
[09:23] {ese} It's a smaller version of the Victoria Symphony.......it plays British Light Classical stuff....ya comin?
01[09:23] {Threei}  ummm... vodka? cigars? girls?
[09:24] {ese} ahhhhh ya sure........all three
01[09:24] {Threei}  I am not much of a music man, you know... mostly for surrounding enetratainemnt :)
[09:24] {ese} not
[09:24] {robbers} Vodka.  Cigars.  Girls.   Hat trick.
[09:24] {ese} oh well........was worth a try.........how bout Will
[09:25] {dino} ok, got it back
[09:25] {thomcbell} Vad likes Asian philosophy, photography, trading, and of course vodka and bacon
[09:25] {Will49} would love to but have commitment after market closes
[09:25] {ese} Will.....Will...........WWWWWWIIIIIILLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!
01[09:25] {Threei}  cograts dino :)
[09:25] {ese} hmmmmmmmm
01[09:26] {Threei}  tbell... do not leave girls out
[09:26] {thomcbell} ok fair enuf
[09:26] {ese} lol
01[09:26] {Threei}  think I go to photograph ese concerts for the music?
01[09:26] {Threei}  HAH!
[09:26] {ese} hmmmmmmmmmmm
01[09:27] {Threei}  so, on top of all HPQ has accounting irregularities now
[09:28] {Les} afternoon
01[09:28] {Threei}  les :)
[09:28] {ese} for a company that makes 120 billion a year it sure is getting hammered
[09:28] {ese} even for all it's short comings
01[09:29] {Threei}  so are Best Buy and JCPenny
01[09:29] {Threei}  and twitter is as brutal as ever:
01[09:29] {Threei}  "I'm going to Best Buy today to get a Hewlett-Packard copier, so I can print some JCPenney coupons," said no one.
01[09:29] {Threei}  lol
[09:30] {robbers} lol
[09:30] {ese} that is funny
01[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  HPQ  .60 break
01[09:31] {Threei}  If holds  .50
[09:32] {Les} jeez talk about going to zero
[09:32] {ese} what are you looking at les
01[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .90 break hl
01[09:32] {Threei}  If holds  .80
01[09:34] {Threei}  anyone faded HPQ?
01[09:34] {Threei} Long Setup:  HPQ  .50 break
01[09:34] {Threei}  If holds  .40
[09:34] {ese} not yet
01[09:35] {Threei}  target 1:3
01[09:36] {Threei}  FCX looks ready
01[09:36] {Threei}  holding well
01[09:37] {Threei}  1:1 HPQ
01[09:37] {Threei}  on these huge dumpers real bounce tends to occur early... then gravity often takes over
01[09:37] {Threei}  so let's squeeze what we can out of it
01[09:37] {Threei}  1:2
01[09:37] {Threei}  FCX 1:1 if you got it
[09:37] {ese} Les...you there........what were you refering to with the talk about going to zero comment
[09:37] {Les} HPQ
[09:38] {Les} what news?
[09:38] {ese} L btu .33
01[09:38] {Threei}  I missed FCX but not sure whether it was obtainable, was busy with HPQ
[09:38] {Will49} tks Vad 1:2
01[09:38] {Threei}  accounting improprieties Les
[09:39] {Les} LOL
01[09:39] {Threei}  on which one will?
[09:39] {ese} out 1/2 .50 awesome +.17
[09:39] {Will49} HPQ
01[09:39] {Threei}  FCX is 1:2 as well :)
01[09:39] {Threei}  ok
[09:39] {Will49} missed
[09:39] {Les} like your stock ese it's a mover
[09:39] {ese} stop to break even
[09:39] {Will49} simple mind can onlty watch one at a time
[09:39] {ese} i'll say...........today it is
[09:40] {ese} out in full .53
01[09:40] {Threei}  speak no of simple mind to me - I have just enough of grey matter to tell the difference between rake and shovel
[09:40] {ese} +.20
[09:40] {ese} damn....it really moved from .00
[09:40] {Will49} I can follow two trades after market settles
[09:40] {ese} almost missed it asking you a question les
[09:41] {cipher} bidu s .99
[09:41] {Will49} wtg ese
[09:41] {ese} tks
01[09:41] {Threei}  last 1/4 HPW stopped on a trail, .58
[09:42] {ese} will be able to have lunch out in Sidney before my concert today
[09:42] {ese} ummmmmmm...........second thought i'll just pop into vads place
01[09:42] {Threei}  lunch? OK, I may have to come (if you made enough for my lunch as well, that is)
[09:42] {Will49} vodka lunch will really get you swingi'
[09:43] {Will49} swingin'
01[09:43] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .70 break
01[09:43] {Threei}  If holds  .80
[09:43] {ese} ohhhhhh no...........no vodka lunch before playing with the symphony people
[09:45] {Les} l hpq .55
[09:45] {Les} half out .65
[09:46] {cipher} out bidu .95 +.04
[09:47] {nemo} mmmhhhh....cipher might have to hang around a while today
[09:47] {ese} L btu .26
[09:47] {nemo} watch gmcr bear flag, vwap at .90
[09:48] {cipher} tna l .20
[09:48] {ese} out 1/2  .36 +.10
[09:49] {ese} balance to break even
01[09:49] {Threei}  no go SLW
[09:51] {cipher} ibm l .20
[09:52] {cipher} out 1/2 tna .42 +.22
[09:54] {cipher} out rest tna .50 +.30
01[09:55] {Threei} Short Setup: GDX  .55 break
01[09:55] {Threei}  If holds  .65
[09:55] {ese} btu stopped balance .25 -.01
01[09:55] {Threei}  probably two-sided
[09:56] {ese} oh sure ya baaaaaaaassssstaaaaaaaaaaad...........shoot up there now
[09:57] {ese} thats better....people are loosing money...........perfect
[09:57] {Les} BTU giveth and BTU taketh away
[09:57] {ese} man btu is moving like grease lightning this morning
[10:00] {ese} L btu .30
01[10:00] {Threei}  SPY feels like drop is coming any minutes
[10:01] {ese} hmmmmmmm don't wanna hear that when i'm long
01[10:01] {Threei}  very laborous bounce, volume drops... any downtick occures on increasing volume
[10:01] {cipher} out ibm .53 +.33
01[10:01] {Threei}  and here we go
01[10:02] {Threei}  if loses .80, should go to .60 in a hurry
01[10:03] {Threei}  let's trail GDX to .61
01[10:04] {Threei}  SPY started convulsive moves; while my conviction is the same, it's easy to get caught in sharp backlash
01[10:05] {Threei}  target 1:3
01[10:05] {Threei}  1:1
01[10:06] {Threei}  play by the book
[10:06] {robbers} Nice calls on HP and GDX.
01[10:06] {Threei}  this is not a creative trade, rather cookie-cutter
01[10:06] {Threei}  ty
01[10:07] {Threei}  SPY... how was that for intuition?
01[10:07] {Threei}  1:2 GDX
01[10:07] {Threei}  sorry ese... I know it's not what you wanted to hear but reality is reality...
[10:08] {ese} true.................this is ok.......in 3rd time.....am long small
[10:08] {ese} diminishing returns and all that
01[10:08] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/cOfon
01[10:11] {Threei}  last 1"4 stopped on a trail
01[10:11] {Threei} Short Setup: HPQ  .45 break
01[10:12] {Threei}  If holds  .55
01[10:14] {Threei}  (IS) Ceasefire between Israel and Hamas could be signed in Cairo tomorrow - Israeli press
01[10:15] {Threei}  (EU) Italy's European Min: Ready to veto any EU budget that goes against Italy's interests
01[10:15] {Threei}  you tell them
[10:16] {nemo} next short area either here or .80ish
01[10:17] {Threei}  nice bounce HPQ
[10:19] {Will49} +.20 GDx tks Vad
01[10:20] {Threei}  :)
01[10:22] {Threei}  bastid SLW rinsed
[10:22] {cipher} bidu s .54
[10:24] {cipher} out .49 +.05
[10:26] {cipher} bidu s .44
01[10:31] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .05 break hl
01[10:32] {Threei}  If holds  .15
01[10:32] {Threei}  SLW, I can't believe it did this to us
[10:34] {cipher} out bidu flat
01[10:34] {Threei}  no worky
01[10:37] {Threei}  BBY... jeez
[10:37] {nemo} waning volume will likely push this market to 140
[10:40] {nemo} finnies up 1.5% and the $ is up...games today
[10:41] {Les} accounting irregularities there too vad?
01[10:41] {Threei}  no
01[10:41] {Threei}  just business going down the drain
[10:42] {Les} oh a gurgle
[10:43] {ese} gotta go all.......stop is in at the low of the day for btu .00 400shs......catch ya tomorrow
01[10:43] {Threei}  take care ese
[10:43] {Les} ciao
[10:43] {Will49} peace
[10:43] {ese} cya vad les will
[10:44] {Les} tripple top hpq?
[10:44] {nemo} iwm and spy set to drop, but the finnies aren't showing drop yet
[10:45] {Les} not sure if right chart pattern. perhaps just consolidation?
01[10:45] {Threei}  I don't view it as pronounced triple tope
01[10:45] {Threei}  range is not enough for that
[10:46] {Les} ok
01[10:47] {Threei} Long Setup:  IBM  .75 break hl
01[10:47] {Threei}  lol... disregard
[10:47] {dino} mstr hl l .80, gappy
01[10:47] {Threei}  blee through it as I wa typing
[10:54] {robbers} Vad, any new photos since you last posted a link?
01[10:55] {Threei}  I post singles on FB... when got swries, I post them on the blog
01[10:55] {Threei}  series that is
[10:55] {dino} mstr stop
01[10:58] {Threei}  if you can see http://www.facebook.com/vadym.graifer, scroll through it to view photos I posted
[11:01] {robbers} Cool, will take a look.
[11:09] {dino} clf hl l .50
[11:13] {nemo} tna argualby long here
[11:15] {nemo} not giving it much room
[11:15] {Les} in .27 half out
[11:15] {nemo} partialing here
01[11:16] {Threei}  - Trading has been choppy on both sides of the Atlantic as traders contend with multiple impactful stories this morning. In Europe, eurozone finance ministers are meeting this morning to discuss unfreezing �40B in aid payments for Greece. There are obviously hopes for a positive outcome, although dissenting voices have been heard, most notably from Finland. Moodys downgrade of France's sovereign rating, to AA1 from AAA, has had a limited impact. The French government shrugged off the move, although it has possibly delayed issuance of a three-year EFSF bond. In Israel, there is talk that the Netanyahu government is ready to sign a temporary ceasefire with Hamas as soon as tonight. In the US, there is an emerging consensus that the Democrats will likely force their approach to the Bush tax cuts on the House GOP.
01[11:17] {Threei}  too bad ese is not here, he would be happy to see this:
01[11:17] {Threei}  Another month, another excellent housing data point: the October housing starts reading hit its highest level since July 2008. Single-family home construction actually fell very slightly m/m, while apartment construction rose 10% m/m.
[11:18] {Les} quarter .47
[11:19] {nemo} watchint to see if finnies pop here, that'll bring the spy and IWM with it
01[11:19] {Threei}  good one Les
[11:19] {Les} nemo's call
01[11:19] {Threei}  and to think, you owe it to nemo...
[11:19] {nemo} Yeah, I'm just chopped nephrotic tissue
01[11:20] {Threei}  almost takes all the pleasure out of it {G}
[11:20] {Les} :)
[11:20] {robbers} Vad, on you FB page, is there a specific place for "new" photos?
[11:21] {nemo} or hepatic tissue, to be more accurate
[11:21] {nemo} 2n'd partial here
01[11:21] {Threei}  not really, just scroll down
[11:21] {Les} out .58 +.31
[11:21] {dino} gj
01[11:21] {Threei}  last few posts were not photos
[11:21] {Les} ty
[11:21] {robbers} wtg Les.
[11:22] {nemo} stop to .45ish
01[11:22] {Threei}  I need to finish some slideshows for friend's vacations, then hopefully work on some of photos from the summer (and post them) before hawaii will supply new batch :)
[11:22] {dino} out clf .74, +.24
[11:23] {nemo} or if finnies drop .75ish
[11:23] {nemo} fas, to be specific
01[11:23] {Threei}  actuallym this link will obviously be easier to navigate: http://www.facebook.com/vadym.graifer/photos_stream
[11:24] {robbers} Vad, what's the rough translation on the kitty cat poster?
01[11:24] {Threei}  click on any of the shots, and then use arrows
01[11:25] {Threei}  Only extremely busy one can truly enjoy lazy time
01[11:25] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/ujQOe
[11:25] {nemo} stop .60ish
[11:25] {robbers} Oh, so a message for us traders?
01[11:25] {Threei}  hehe
01[11:26] {Threei}  wow TNA
[11:26] {dino} ravn hl l .00
[11:26] {nemo} I don't leave until it gives me a reason
[11:26] {nemo} stop .65ish
[11:27] {Les} :(
[11:27] {nemo} young bull runs down, old bull walks down
[11:27] {Les} 1:5 in my book
01[11:27] {Threei}  Les, to capture this kind just trail last part
01[11:28] {Threei}  dopn't take it off the table until it either hits trailing stop or spikes vertically
[11:28] {Les} so trailing stop is with each partial I lift stop to prior partial?
01[11:28] {Threei}  just under
[11:28] {Les} k
01[11:29] {Threei}  and then last part you just trail
[11:29] {nemo} stop to .70ish
01[11:29] {Threei}  much like nemo does right now
[11:29] {Les} yeh
[11:29] {nemo} o.k. getting iffy here
01[11:29] {Threei}  when it spikes vertically, eother dump it or choke it
01[11:29] {Threei}  by tightening the trail
01[11:29] {Threei}  i.e., 5 cents instead of 10
01[11:30] {Threei}  you can see sometimes dino doing this
[11:30] {nemo} might see it consolidate around here for an afternoon break
[11:30] {Les} y
01[11:30] {Threei}  as stock nears his ultimate target his trails stop much closer
01[11:30] {Threei}  he trails
[11:30] {Les} getting there sensei
[11:30] {Les} slowly but surely
[11:31] {nemo} what am I frickin' animal on a Nature show?
01[11:31] {Threei}  slowly is good
[11:31] {Les} sorry Nemo
[11:31] {Les} only one boss in the house
01[11:31] {Threei}  lessons learned slowly sit with you forever
[11:31] {nemo} yeah, the ones that leave scars
01[11:31] {Threei}  rapidly adopted knowledge tends to dissipate easily
01[11:32] {Threei}  no time for true internalizing
[11:32] {nemo} yeah need to imbed it in more tissue, especially as I drink braincells away
[11:32] {nemo} which reminds me...
[11:35] {nemo} Hey Sheila, see how I looked at IWM SPY and the finnies for that one?
[11:36] {Les} god no I'm sitting fat dumb and happy rotating on my finger
[11:36] {Les} why would I be looking at charts for?
[11:36] {Les} :P
[11:36] {nemo} I'm sure you use the whole fist
01[11:37] {Threei}  TNA breaks .85, I'd trail to .74
[11:38] {Les} didn't see all charts. Just saw bullish divergence on 1 min chart as thrust to new low was made.
[11:38] {Les} was already aware of 3 min. potential
[11:38] {nemo} yeah, I'm at .70 anyway, finnies have been way stronger today, if they cave, everything is going
[11:42] {nemo} well, we're getting the consolidation, finnies are at a confluence level for me, so it's possible, outside the time of day, tna break above .85 is a long
[11:42] {nemo} with stop under .75
[11:44] {nemo} Natucket Sleigh Ride...
[11:45] {Les} damn we flyin
01[11:45] {Threei}  this is vertical I want to see
01[11:45] {Threei}  either exit or start choking it
[11:46] {nemo} I'm watching the finnies too
01[11:46] {Threei}  .89
[11:46] {nemo} yeah
01[11:46] {Threei}  breaks 52 - trail to .94
[11:46] {nemo} I'm thinking they try to drive the index higher
01[11:46] {Threei}  yeah, SPY is aout to take .20
[11:46] {nemo} and IWM is leading spy, which indicates bullishness
[11:46] {nemo} imo
[11:47] {nemo} and I'm still sober to boot
[11:47] {nemo} I would expect an attempted flush after this move
[11:48] {nemo} whoa...just had an image of Les swirling around in water
[11:52] {Les} I'll settle for wine
[11:52] {nemo} alright, that's gonna' be my stop
01[11:52] {Threei}  some crappy course overtook us on traderplanet as 1 place
[11:52] {nemo} wow...this is going better than expected
01[11:53] {Threei}  who is up for some additional clicking, feel free to do it anytime :)
[11:53] {nemo} link please
[11:53] {Les} did it this mornign I think
01[11:53] {Threei}  http://www.traderplanet.com/star-awards/vote
[11:54] {nemo} I'm tellin' ya' spy to 140
01[11:54] {Threei}  permanent instructions at http://www.realitytrader.com/traderplanet.html
01[11:55] {Threei}  (IS) Israel Govt Spokesperson: Truce with Hamas has not been finalized, negotiations are continuing- If stronger military action proves necessary to stop the constant barrage of rockets, Israel will not hesitate to do what is necessary to defend itself. - Hamas spokesperson: no truce deal yet but we are getting close.
01[11:56] {Threei}  (US) Reminder: Fed Chairman Bernanke scheduled to speak at Economic Club of NY at 12:15ET
[11:57] {nemo} stop to 52
[11:57] {nemo} this is the flush
01[11:58] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .95 break
[11:59] {nemo} whoa, betting against me
01[11:59] {Threei}  no
[11:59] {nemo} we ain't there yet though
01[11:59] {Threei}  look at TNA from the point of view of 52 break
01[11:59] {Threei}  wouldn't you short that?
[11:59] {nemo} I understand, but I'll take it personally if I want to
01[11:59] {Threei}  that's TZA .95 break
01[11:59] {Threei}  oh, by all means
[12:00] {nemo} btw...you'll get more bang out of spxu
01[12:00] {Threei}  for a price though
[12:00] {nemo} see that on spy, don't think they're ready to drop
[12:00] {nemo} finnies aren't quite ready to turn over
[12:03] {nemo} finnies breaking highs
01[12:04] {Threei}  Dear Vadym,
01[12:04] {Threei}  Recently, you received an email indicating chosen as a potential candidate to represent your professional community in the 2012 Edition of Worldwide Who's Who.
01[12:04] {Threei}  We have yet to hear from you! This email simply serves as a FINAL REMINDER of your nomination for this selection period.
01[12:04] {Threei}  uh oh... I better hurry
01[12:05] {Threei}  after all, it's a FINAL REMINDER
01[12:05] {Threei}  not just some final reminder
[12:05] {nemo} well, I'm out
01[12:06] {Threei}  and it's worldwide... not just the neighborhood limited by ese on the south and will on the east
[12:06] {dino} out ravn .23, +.23
01[12:11] {Threei}  so, any of the following will do:
01[12:11] {Threei}  1. Israel/Hamas no truce
01[12:11] {Threei}  2, Ben saying "no balance sheet expansion"
01[12:11] {Threei}  3. EU saying no deal for Greece
01[12:12] {Threei}  any of those will take TZA to 1:2 in a blink of eye
01[12:15] {Threei}  so far so good
01[12:15] {Threei}  holding the line of trend reversal
01[12:16] {Threei}  (US) Fed Chairman Bernanke: There is some way to go until labor market is fully recovered; housing market has seen clear signs of improvement - Economic Club of NY- Inflation is generally subdued, to stay near 2% goal for several years
01[12:17] {Threei}  1:1
01[12:18] {Threei}  come on nemo, you can't remain oblivious to the precision of the reversal call
[12:19] {robbers} If TZA goes 1:2, you get my vote on traderplanet.
06[12:19] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a banner demanding recognition
[12:19] {nemo} congratulations
[12:19] {nemo} Now put your arm back in the sling
01[12:19] {Threei}  hmmm... that's a tough treshold to reach on relatively narrow thing TZA is... :)
01[12:19] {Threei}  but let's see
01[12:20] {Threei}  Ben's helping
01[12:20] {Threei}  - Financial Crisis has lowered potential of US GDP growth below 2.5% level. - US fiscal policy is a headwind for the economy, tighter federal spending is hitting GDP growth - European concerns have weighed on US asset prices.
01[12:20] {Threei}  ese would have been livid
[12:27] {nemo} Mos
[12:29] {Les} IWM back to support
[12:29] {nemo} and dual fib confluence
[12:31] {Les} sus of downside flush here
[12:32] {Les} from SPY
01[12:32] {Threei}  for Taoist Trader readers who remember meditation pdf, some very nice practical help, courtesy of Les: http://goo.gl/TMTUh
[12:32] {nemo} spy looking long above .10 but watching finnies
[12:33] {nemo} time makes me cautious though
01[12:33] {Threei}  I don't know... still is descending channel
[12:34] {nemo} not for iwm
[12:36] {nemo} spy coming into vwap
01[12:37] {Threei}  here is a piece of common wisdom which I am not so sure is true:
01[12:37] {Threei}  (US) Fed Chairman Bernanke: The fiscal cliff is a substantial threat to recovery, failure to solve the issue could cause a recession while resolution would have a positive impact
01[12:37] {Threei}  short term, sure
[12:37] {dino} giii spike
01[12:37] {Threei}  long term, maybe fiscal cliff is not the worst thing to happen
[12:39] {dino} mstr drop
[12:40] {robbers} Maybe, Vad, but there'd be some psychological damage, I think.  Makes our political system look even less effective.  If that's possible.
01[12:40] {Threei}  true
[12:41] {dino} mos hl s .91
[12:41] {Les} SLW
[12:41] {Les} .25
[12:41] {Les} short?
[12:42] {Les} not yet maybe
01[12:42] {Threei}  I like it
[12:44] {Les} cool. just wary of an additional bounce. keeping it on screen
01[12:47] {Threei}  ok SPY
01[12:47] {Threei}  it's time
01[12:47] {Threei}  lose 139 and cascade
01[12:47] {Threei}  I need robber's vote
[12:48] {robbers} Took the MOS scalp, thanks guys.
01[12:48] {Threei}  gj
[12:48] {robbers} (waiting on TZA, lol)
[12:49] {dino} gj
[12:50] {dino} mos bstop to .81
[12:50] {dino} damn, stopped +.10
[12:51] {nemo} mmhhh, I'd set my stop to .00
[12:51] {robbers} Waiting on TZA, my version of irrational exuberance.
[12:51] {dino} should've just covered at .72
[12:56] {nemo} yep VWAP did it again
[12:57] {nemo} mos flagging
[12:58] {dino} mstr sm l .50
01[12:58] {Threei}  stop .99 TZA
01[12:58] {Threei}  started loaing shape
01[12:58] {Threei}  losing
[12:59] {nemo} oil taking a beating today
[13:01] {Les} q's losing it
01[13:03] {Threei}  robbers' click, here it comes
[13:07] {Les} SLW again
[13:09] {robbers} 1:2 RT gets the vote.
[13:09] {Les} hehehe gj
01[13:09] {Threei}  1:2 baby
01[13:09] {Threei}  whew
[13:09] {robbers} 1:3 and you get two votes.
[13:09] {Les} LOL
01[13:10] {Threei}  two?
01[13:10] {Threei}  me want
01[13:10] {Threei}  let's go for two
01[13:10] {Threei}  who else took the trade?
06[13:11] * Threei is trolling for more votes
[13:11] {robbers} out 1/2.
[13:11] {Les} banksters crash
01[13:11] {Threei}  heavens have never seen a reversal nailed with such precision
01[13:12] {Threei}  one to three
01[13:12] {Threei}  !
[13:12] {Les} was out shopping bummer
[13:15] {nemo} well, that's spy capitulation level volume
01[13:19] {Threei}  visual: http://goo.gl/K8vmc
[13:22] {robbers} Out in full, thanks Vad.
01[13:22] {Threei}  :)
01[13:31] {Threei}  (GR) Bond buyback program for Greece estimated to reach 25% of face value of the debt; program would aim to reach 50% acceptance rate and ultimately bring down debt by 10%/GDP - financial press- Estimates are that the bond buyback could be funded by ECB profits or bailout funds; and Greece would require �8B for the program
01[13:32] {Threei}  ECB bailout fund to be used to buy back bonds?
01[13:32] {Threei}  and how does it change anything in Greek debt burden?
[13:34] {Les} gets transferred to german taxpayer
01[13:34] {Threei}  great
[13:35] {Les} how wars begin
01[13:40] {Threei}  covering SLW
01[13:40] {Threei}  1:2 as well
[13:40] {dino} gj
01[13:41] {Threei}  will, are you breating over there?
01[13:41] {Threei}  breathing too
[13:41] {dino} ravn hl l .90
01[13:46] {Threei}  so... Simpson WAS innocent??
[13:48] {dino} thor drop
[13:53] {Will49} sorry, stepped away for a few minutes...yes am breathing
[13:53] {Will49} breathing easier
01[13:54] {Threei}  having good day?
[13:54] {Will49} yes..very good
01[13:54] {Threei}  :)
[13:55] {Will49} for the stage I'm at
01[13:56] {Threei}  hmmm... we are still trailing... where are those votes people
[14:00] {dino} thor hl l .60 stop .38
01[14:01] {Threei}  wow
01[14:02] {Threei}  SLW had more in it
[14:02] {dino} amwd spike
[14:17] {Les} nice catch on slw
[14:20] {dino} out thor .84, +.24
01[14:21] {Threei}  dine swings thor's hammer
01[14:21] {Threei}  dino
[14:21] {dino} lol
01[14:21] {Threei}  meh... lame
01[14:21] {Threei}  I need new jokes
[14:25] {Les} hmmm grind up into close from support here?
01[14:25] {Threei}  I hope not
[14:25] {dino} could be just contra hour
[14:26] {Les} fish boy what say you?
[14:27] {cc_8} If HP Looks Bad, Autozone Looks a Lot WorsePosted on: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 12:58pm
[14:27] {cc_8} The big news story of the day was Hewlett-Packard (NYSE: HPQ) reporting that it had to write down a majority of intangible assets resulting from the purchase of Autonomy, a software provider.
[14:28] {dino} they pretty much write off all their acquistions
[14:28] {dino} obummer should hire them, about as much success as his solar bets
[14:36] {robbers} OK, Vad, finally got to vote on traderplanet.com.  You did want me to vote Romney, right?
[14:37] {Will49} lol
[14:37] {Les} RIG LoD b/d?
[14:37] {Les} .83?
01[14:38] {Threei}  probably
01[14:38] {Threei}  lol robbers
01[14:38] {Threei}  a bit late for that
[14:39] {robbers} BTW, I told traderplanet you paid for my vote.
01[14:39] {Threei}  right
01[14:39] {Threei}  they respect it
01[14:40] {Threei}  they are in throat-cutting business
[14:44] {Les} s .81
[14:50] {dino} partial fill s giii .99
[14:54] {dino} out ravn .14, +.24
[14:55] {dino} giii bstop is hd
[14:55] {dino} hod
[14:55] {dino} stopped
[15:00] {Les} stopped .87
01[15:03] {Threei} Long Setup:  FB  .10 break
01[15:03] {Threei}  If holds  .05
[15:10] {nemo} 40+ million shares traded...easy tape reading stock
01[15:21] {Threei}  meh
[15:26] {dino} freak trade of day, out mstr .90, +.30, got lucky
[15:37] {dino} that was actually +.40, but should have held, still going up
01[15:37] {Threei}  ah well
01[15:38] {Threei}  if we always knew where we were going to fsll, we would have spread some hay over there
[15:38] {dino} indeed
[15:40] {dino} full day tomorrow, half day friday, right?
01[15:41] {Threei}  let me look
01[15:41] {Threei}  earlier both Israeli and Hamas spokespeople said that there were still some outstanding issues to be addressed before they could agree to a truce
01[15:41] {Threei}  outstanding issues? as in, who will shoot at the orher and who won't?
[15:41] {dino} yuo know the terrorist hamas will toss some over after the truce
[15:42] {robbers} They are debating over the meaning of the word:  "ceasefire."
01[15:42] {Threei}  Nov 22 Closed, Nov 23 half day
[15:43] {dino} could yuo imagine somebody firing missles at usa? think we'd be as "kind" as israel?
[15:43] {Les} Friday is half day?
01[15:43] {Threei}  yes
[15:43] {dino} 1 pm
[15:43] {Les} k thought it was tomorrow
[15:43] {Les} falling asleep here. c u's tomorrow
[15:43] {dino} cya
01[15:43] {Threei}  day after day, for many years, rockets hitting towns
[15:43] {nemo} I'm travelling today, might stop in tomorrow but I'll be guilty of IMUI
[15:43] {robbers} cya.
[15:43] {Will49} be good Les
01[15:43] {Threei}  take care Les
[15:44] {dino} imui?
[15:44] {nemo} Internet Messaging Under the Influence
[15:44] {Les} safe trip nemo
[15:44] {nemo} won't be a first of course
[15:44] {nemo} ty
[15:44] {dino} ahhh, message carefully
01[15:44] {Threei}  friends don't let friends drink and message
[15:44] {nemo} not alone anyway
01[15:49] {Threei}  OK guys, thank you all
01[15:49] {Threei}  have a good evening, see you tomorrowq
[15:49] {robbers} TY.
[15:49] {Will49} Have good day guys
[15:52] {dino} gn all, thx
[15:52] {nemo} cya

Nov 19 2012

Gap and grind up... grrr. Fixed the early stops largely in the second half of the day, with two winning trades at the finish taking it to about breakeven.

Session Time: Mon Nov 19 00:00:00 2012
[09:01] {nemo} I hate these days, not to mention it's a Monday
01[09:01] {Threei}  "these"?
[09:02] {nemo} gap up...although I did say last week was the bottom
[09:02] {nemo} Unfortunately, I don't get paid for that
01[09:02] {Threei}  I am not sure it was "the" bottom
01[09:02] {Threei}  so far it's a bounce
[09:02] {nemo} Well, the world ends in a month, so if you're talking absolutes...
[09:03] {nemo} I think I said swing low
[09:03] {nemo} what is all the happiness about anyway?
01[09:04] {Threei}  mostly noise about happy resolution to fiscal cliff
[09:08] {scottie} good morning
01[09:08] {Threei}  scottie :)
[09:08] {dino} gm
01[09:08] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:12] {Beau} good morning
01[09:12] {Threei}  beau :)
[09:12] {ese} morning......am L premarket btu .31
[09:12] {ese} 1/2
01[09:12] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:13] {ese} morning vad
01[09:17] {Threei}  your power's OK ese?
[09:18] {nemo} wow, no Les...ooops probably just jinxed it
[09:18] {Will49} gm
01[09:18] {Threei}  will :)
[09:18] {Will49} got emails yesterday
01[09:18] {Threei}  yup
01[09:19] {Threei}  that's resolved
01[09:20] {Threei}  42% Willing To Pay More in #Taxes to Balance #Budget If Real Spending Cuts Are Made
01[09:20] {Threei}  are those 42% fully from those 49% that pay no taxes whatsoever?
01[09:21] {Threei}  so they don't mind doubling that?
[09:21] {ese} hey vad........yes........no power out here.......you?
01[09:21] {Threei}  had some flickering through the nihgt, but so far so good
[09:21] {ese} serious wind last night
01[09:21] {Threei}  yeah
[09:22] {Will49} fine here at clover point
01[09:22] {Threei}  took out the cover from my smoker
01[09:22] {Threei}  but I will rebuild
01[09:22] {Threei}  overall, about 15K customers lost power
[09:23] {Les} morning
[09:23] {Les} or afternoon
01[09:23] {Threei}  kes :)
01[09:23] {Threei}  les
01[09:23] {Threei}  grr
[09:23] {Les} fat fingers
01[09:23] {Threei}  someone should move k and l farther from each other
[09:24] {robbers} And Israel and the Gaza, too.
[09:24] {Will49} :)
01[09:24] {Threei}  lol
01[09:24] {Threei}  bitter lol but lol
01[09:25] {Threei}  quote from blog post:
01[09:25] {Threei}  While the press continues its 24/7 coverage of the fiscal cliff, the effect of Obama Care on the economy is largely ignored. IMHO, Obama Care is a much bigger issue as it will destroy more incomes.
01[09:25] {Threei}  A friend of mine employs 72 people, fulltime. His accountant has informed him that to have any chance of survival in the coming years, he will need to fire 23 people by the end of the year. There must be millions of businessmen facing the same situation.
01[09:25] {Threei}  I hear this same story from many
01[09:26] {Threei}  gap up looks excessive to me
[09:26] {robbers} It's really ObamaIdon'tcare.
01[09:26] {Threei}  I'd start with looking for reversals
[09:27] {robbers} Yeah, no doubt excessive exuberance this morning.
[09:27] {nemo} I'm sitting tight gonna' pour another glass of....er...I mean cup of coffee
[09:27] {Les} pisspot
01[09:27] {Threei}  irrational exuberance to use Greenspan's words
[09:27] {cipher} gm
01[09:27] {Threei}  cipher :)
01[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .70 break hl
01[09:31] {Threei}  If holds  .80
[09:31] {dino} sell the gap?
01[09:32] {Threei}  as a first idea at least
01[09:32] {Threei}  nope
01[09:32] {Threei} Short Setup: AIG  .20 break
01[09:32] {Threei}  If holds  .30
[09:33] {nemo} I'd be careful about selling the gap..imo
[09:33] {nemo} 200 sma on spy is at 138.40, and since when do they make it easy to make money
01[09:34] {Threei}  Invalidated
01[09:35] {Threei} Short Setup: WMT  .80 break
01[09:35] {Threei}  hp
01[09:35] {Threei}  hl
01[09:35] {Threei}  If holds  .90
01[09:36] {Threei}  yuck
01[09:36] {Threei}  so far, no reversal
[09:37] {nemo} not until spy get's nearer the 200
01[09:38] {Threei}  CAT hesitates
[09:38] {nemo} 138.80 is confluence level on spy after the 200
01[09:38] {Threei}  dpesn't follow SPY to new highs
01[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .25 break hl
[09:39] {nemo} ok that
[09:39] {nemo} the 200, now let's see what sets up
01[09:40] {Threei}  Invalidated
01[09:40] {Threei}  for now
[09:40] {nemo} oh look, hesitation at the 200
01[09:40] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  37 break
01[09:40] {Threei}  If holds  .10
01[09:41] {Threei}  Invalidated
[09:44] {cipher} tza l .35
01[09:45] {Threei} Long Setup:  GDX  .50 break
01[09:45] {Threei}  If holds  .40
01[09:46] {Threei}  come on
01[09:46] {Threei}  what the deuce
[09:49] {cipher} out tza .30 -.05
[09:51] {cipher} bidu s .60
01[09:52] {Threei}  If holds  D  .90 break
01[09:53] {Threei} Short Setup: D  .90 break
[09:53] {cipher} cov 1/2 .30 +.30
01[09:53] {Threei}  If holds  50
01[09:53] {Threei}  Invalidated
[09:54] {ese} keeps timing me out
[09:55] {cipher} re short bidu .50
01[09:55] {Threei} Long Setup:  PCG  .20 break
[09:55] {nemo} spy gonna break again
01[09:55] {Threei}  If holds  .15
01[09:55] {Threei}  target .35 - .40
01[09:57] {Threei}  half out
01[09:57] {Threei}  .29
[09:57] {cipher} cov 1/2  bidu .30 +.20
01[09:57] {Threei}  stop to .19
01[09:57] {Threei}  nice double short cipher
[09:57] {cipher} ty
[09:57] {ese} out btu .85 +.51     good enough
[09:58] {Will49} wtg ese
[09:58] {ese} tks will
01[09:58] {Threei}  good one
[09:58] {ese} it's my cash cow
01[09:58] {Threei}  ese works that BTU as a true miner
[09:58] {cipher} cash cow... I like that
[09:58] {cipher} gotta look into it
[09:58] {ese} something about the way it's trading works for me
01[09:59] {Threei}  puts on headlamp and dives into coal mine
[09:59] {cipher} cov rest ov bidu .11 +.39
01[10:00] {Threei}  PCG target hit, out
[10:00] {ese} tends to move like tna i've found except 2X
[10:00] {nemo} home sales?
01[10:00] {Threei}  (US) NOV NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 46 V 41E
01[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) OCT EXISTING HOME SALES: 4.79M V 4.75ME
[10:01] {nemo} well, let's see how frothy we are today
[10:01] {Beau} +.16 thx vad
01[10:01] {Threei}  yw
01[10:02] {Threei}  metrics don't look took good to me though
01[10:02] {Threei}  Median existing home price: $178.6K v $178.3K (revised from $183.9K)
[10:02] {nemo} If it weren't for rasslin' and fishin'  I wouldn't own a TeeeeVeee
01[10:02] {Threei}  - Distressed sales: 24% v 24% prior
[10:03] {nemo} sorry, having a flashback to a conversation I overheard in a redneck bar in South Carolina
01[10:03] {Threei}  - Prior MoM revised lower to 4.69M from 4.75M
[10:04] {cipher} bidu l .95
01[10:05] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .65 break hl
01[10:05] {Threei}  If holds  .58
[10:06] {cipher} out 1/2 bidu .25 +.30
[10:06] {nemo} cat looks like spy and iwm
01[10:07] {Threei}  no go
01[10:12] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .50 break
01[10:13] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[10:13] {nemo} hd might be a short here
[10:13] {nemo} or long
[10:13] {nemo} two way
[10:13] {cipher} bidu s .75
01[10:13] {Threei}  1:1 in a hurry
[10:13] {nemo} 92.50 then .30 support
[10:14] {cipher} tza l.41
01[10:14] {Threei}  ese, dp said hello, should be back in a month or so
[10:16] {ese} great tks........say hi back when you get a chance
01[10:17] {Threei}  I will... he said he was slowly recovering from the trauma of looking at the photos at your site
01[10:17] {Threei}  HD is getting overextended
01[10:18] {Threei}  probably one more spike
01[10:18] {Threei}  and should ber ready to reverse
[10:18] {cipher} cov bidu .65 +.10
01[10:19] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .50 break
01[10:19] {Threei}  If holds  .60
01[10:20] {Threei} Short Setup: HD  .30 break
01[10:20] {Threei}  If holds  .35
[10:21] {nemo} imo, spy and IMW need to test the highs, with IWM likely going to the SPP and SPY to 138.78
01[10:22] {Threei}  HD target about 63.05
[10:22] {cipher} bidu s .81
01[10:24] {Threei}  first partial .21
01[10:24] {Threei}  stop to .31
[10:25] {cipher} cov .63 +.18
01[10:26] {Threei}  let's keep LVS stop .56
01[10:26] {Threei}  never went over .55 on the bounce
01[10:26] {Threei}  .60 for stop placement was a generous allowance
[10:27] {Les} never let it be said that you are not a generous man :)
01[10:27] {Threei}  1/4 more out HD
01[10:27] {Threei}  lol
01[10:27] {Threei}  stop to .21
01[10:29] {Threei}  touched .05 target like clockwork
01[10:29] {Threei}  LVS 1:1
01[10:29] {Threei}  life becomes brighter
[10:29] {scottie} HD +.18 tks Vad, first winner for me today
01[10:30] {Threei}  yw... but we hit 4 in a row
01[10:30] {Threei}  first LVS was hard to get
01[10:30] {Threei}  the rest were relatively easy
[10:30] {scottie} missed them all
[10:30] {scottie} Not in LVS either
[10:36] {cipher} bidu s .64
01[10:36] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .50 break hl
01[10:36] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[10:37] {cipher} cov bidu .15 +.49
[10:37] {cipher} nice drop bidu
[10:37] {nemo} gild under .10 might be interesting
01[10:38] {Threei}  dtop to .56
[10:38] {nemo} vrtx
01[10:38] {Threei}  1:1
[10:39] {nemo} rht volume
[10:39] {nemo} two way, below .24 or above .32
[10:40] {scottie} SFD l .75 ?
[10:41] {nemo} target .60ish
[10:42] {nemo} arguably they may try to hold the spy in this 200sma territory
[10:43] {scottie} in .77 stop .69
01[10:43] {Threei}  can't tell scottie... rather yes
[10:43] {cipher} bidu s .40
[10:45] {Les} too some here nemo
[10:45] {Les} took
[10:46] {cipher} cov bidu .42 -.02
01[10:48] {Threei}  good one RHT
06[10:48] * Les smacks Nemo around with linux on a 1950's hard drive
[10:48] {nemo} a 1950's hard drive?
[10:49] {Les} VAd
[10:49] {Les} photo please
[10:49] {nemo} they used magnet cores
[10:49] {nemo} yeah, the one with the tombstone
01[10:49] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/C5SKx
[10:49] {cipher} bidu s .42
[10:50] {nemo} yeah, it's a magnet core, not a hard drive in the modern sense
[10:50] {Les} to quote bond
[10:51] {Les} Do I look like I give a damn
[10:51] {nemo} no, that's Clark Gable
[10:52] {Les} before my time Grandpa
[10:52] {Les} Casino Royale
[10:52] {nemo} the original or the remake?
[10:53] {scottie} GME l .20 ?
01[10:53] {Threei}  not liking it
[10:53] {scottie} ok
01[10:53] {Threei}  SPY starts looking exhausted
[10:54] {cipher} cov 1/2 bidu .20 +.22
[10:55] {Les} I'm guessing remake dude. Again, I'm not old enogh
[10:55] {nemo} frickin' phillistine
01[10:55] {Threei} Short Setup: DTV  .78
01[10:56] {Threei}  If holds  .85
[10:56] {cipher} 1/4 more bidu .01 +.41
[10:59] {ese} am outte here ....cyou tomorrow
01[11:01] {Threei}  take care ese
[11:04] {nemo} VWAP converging on the 200 SMA on SPY, this could turn into a snoooooooooozeeeeeeerrrrrr
[11:05] {cipher} BIDU S .02
[11:06] {cipher} cov .10 -.08
[11:09] {cipher} bidu l .18
[11:10] {nemo} cipher=gumby
[11:10] {cipher} out .41
[11:11] {cipher} +.23
01[11:11] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .65 break
01[11:11] {Threei}  If holds  .75
01[11:11] {Threei}  wow HD
01[11:11] {Threei}  why did we ever cover
01[11:12] {Threei}  nailed the top to the T
[11:12] {cipher} bidu reload l .22
[11:13] {cipher} want .50
01[11:15] {Threei}  Invalidated
[11:20] {cipher} out 1/2 bidu .62 +.40
01[11:21] {Threei}  wtg
[11:21] {cipher} ty
[11:22] {cipher} out rest .50 +.28
[11:24] {scottie} BBY l .90 ?
01[11:24] {Threei} Long Setup:  HD  .75 break
01[11:24] {Threei}  If holds  .70
[11:24] {cipher} bidu reload .37
01[11:25] {Threei}  I wouldn't, BBY
[11:25] {scottie} ok
[11:26] {cipher} out 1/2 bidu .69 +.32
[11:26] {cipher} want .90 on rest
[11:28] {cipher} out .89
[11:28] {cipher} close
[11:28] {cipher} +.57
01[11:28] {Threei}  lol, close enough I'd say
01[11:31] {Threei}  no go
[11:32] {nemo} bidu vwap .88
[11:32] {nemo} pivot .95
[11:36] {cipher} vwap 92.88 ?
[11:36] {Les} yes
01[11:38] {Threei}  HD rinse
01[11:38] {Threei}  prick
01[11:38] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .45 break
01[11:38] {Threei}  hl
01[11:38] {Threei}  If holds  .55
01[11:38] {Threei}  with idea to add another hl on .40 break
[11:39] {cipher} l bidu .00
[11:40] {nemo} I see a short
[11:41] {cipher} out .85
[11:42] {cipher} you were right
[11:42] {nemo} don't you have a comment dino?
[11:42] {nemo} broken clock moment cipher
[11:42] {dino} cov cat .30, +.20 ty vad
01[11:42] {Threei}  :)
01[11:43] {Threei}  patient one
[11:43] {nemo} cipher...when a stock is weak, they often retrace to the vwap.  vwap and pivot were very close, the 38.2 retrace of the open to the bottom was at the pivot, so often you'll see a reversal at thos confluences
[11:44] {cipher} gotcha
[11:44] {nemo} http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=0852bc9a-fb69-4d43-935b-2a46c38802f1
01[11:44] {Threei}  come on HD, this is nasty
[11:45] {Les} just crossed vwap resistance HD
01[11:45] {Threei}  had .95 target in mind
[11:46] {cipher} nemo so when pivot and vwap are close the signal is even stronger, correct?
[11:47] {nemo} when you have confluences it often is, because now you have multiple trading styles looking at the same level.  So, this .10 range had 3 different types of traders looking at this area
[11:47] {nemo} just my opinion btw
[11:52] {nemo} so this .50 level on bidu is not only a natural price inflection level (dino's .00 .25 .50 .75) it's also the 23.6 retrace from the open to the low, which provided both support and resistance today, so it makes sense for it to be inflection
01[11:52] {Threei} Short Setup: FB  .50 break hl
01[11:52] {Threei}  If holds  .60
[11:55] {Les} LVS 44 short?
01[11:55] {Threei}  if stays under .10 and SPY helps, yes
01[11:55] {Threei}  need SPY to remain unable to break .50
[11:56] {dino} nemo, re: comment. these gap up and sit markets are not my thing. i usually don't do much on these type days
[11:57] {nemo} true, but I was waiting for the "I see dead people" comment
[11:57] {dino} lol, wanted dead bear on sat., but no luck
[11:57] {nemo} you a bear hunter?
01[11:57] {Threei}  nor is it mine, dino
[11:58] {dino} on a limited basis
01[11:58] {Threei}  so, whose thing is it
[11:59] {dino} 3i, my notes say these days cost me, so i sit
[12:01] {Will49} cipher...how do you do on these days?
[12:02] {cipher} not bad will
[12:02] {dino} cipher is an animal every day
[12:02] {cipher} no record days though
[12:02] {Will49} so it seems :)
[12:02] {cipher} bidu l .35
[12:04] {cipher} if I'm not gone by 11 am that means I want more cash
[12:05] {cipher} out 1/2 bidu .70
[12:06] {Will49} you wild and crazy guy
[12:06] {Les} FSC says $SPX 200 MA is here
[12:06] {Les} SPY 200 ma a little lower
[12:06] {nemo} 138.78 level twolevels
[12:07] {cipher} out rest bidu .64 +.29
[12:09] {dino} gj
[12:10] {cipher} TY
[12:10] {cipher} sorry my hot key is caps lock
[12:10] {cipher} toggles on & off
01[12:13] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  44 break
01[12:15] {Threei}  stop .06
01[12:16] {Threei}  1:1
[12:22] {dino} evep drop
[12:25] {cipher} evep L .59
[12:27] {cipher} out 1/2 .99+.40
[12:28] {cipher} thx dino
[12:28] {scottie} TJX s .75 ?
01[12:29] {Threei}  I think so
[12:30] {scottie} in .74
01[12:31] {Threei}  55% Rate Government Response to Hurricane Sandy Positively
01[12:32] {Threei}  I would guess, this % is much lower in the zone that got actual hit and has firasthand knowledge
[12:32] {Les} nothing looks so good as a CNBC makeover
01[12:34] {Threei}  what makeover?
[12:34] {cipher} out second 1/2 evep .30 +.71
[12:34] {Les} that only television can produce, depending on it's partisan calling
[12:34] {cipher} now I have cash
[12:35] {cipher} cya tomorrow
[12:35] {cipher} thx for ideas
[12:35] {Will49} bring your luck back tomorrow
[12:35] {Will49} i mean skill
[12:36] {dino} cya
01[12:36] {Threei}  take care cipher
[12:36] {Les} ciao c
01[12:39] {Threei}  (GR) EMU officials indicate that tentative approval will be given to Greece tomorrow on the �44B tranche which will be disbursed Dec 5
[12:49] {dino} actg hl l .06
01[12:50] {Threei} Short Setup: AIG  .35 break
01[12:50] {Threei}  aggressive for .30
01[12:51] {Threei}  TJX works
[12:51] {scottie} half out
[12:52] {dino} mstr hl l ave .06
[12:54] {Les} AIG stop?
01[12:54] {Threei}  standard, .45
[12:55] {nemo} we should get a long bounce by the time iwm gets to .65 vwap and daily R2 should be in confluence
[12:55] {dino} actg stop .87 -.19
[12:58] {nemo} long setup here tna
01[13:01] {Threei}  hmmm
01[13:01] {Threei}  doesn't look long to me
[13:01] {nemo} I understand, and I would prefer something closer to the .65 level on IWM, but...
[13:02] {nemo} finnies are at vwap so they might just sit here, which mean it will be hard for iwm or spy to move much
[13:07] {nemo} hurry up and wait
[13:11] {scottie} out TJX
[13:13] {Will49} tks scottie..my first win
[13:14] {scottie} bad day for you too !
[13:14] {Will49} oh yeah!
01[13:14] {Threei}  wow
[13:14] {scottie} :(
01[13:15] {Threei}  come on guys... surely not every winner up to this point was unattainable
[13:18] {scottie} sfd out -.09
01[13:22] {Threei}  ok AIG
01[13:22] {Threei}  lose .30 and die
[13:22] {nemo} spy vwap and 200 at this bounce
01[13:28] {Threei} Short Setup: JCP  .65 break
[13:29] {nemo} dltr
[13:30] {Les} 3 min bearish divergence building. u wanna take it short?
01[13:31] {Threei}  who are you addressing Les?
[13:31] {nemo} me
[13:32] {nemo} I think it will base build around here to go long look at the daily.  Not sure it has much more room today
[13:32] {nemo} I think a short is more likely,
[13:33] {nemo} having said that, R3 is possible
[13:33] {Les} can't give you more than one vote Vad. will have to clean out my browser history
01[13:33] {Threei}  1 vote a day
[13:33] {nemo} regarding?
01[13:33] {Threei}  if you haven't voted today, you can
[13:33] {nemo} ahhhh
[13:33] {nemo} check in the mail?
[13:34] {Les} FB ya dinosaur
01[13:34] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/p1tts
01[13:34] {Threei}  we are in the lead
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01[13:35] {Threei}  btw you may want to give their newsletter a chance
01[13:35] {Threei}  it's not bad
01[13:35] {Threei}  many good articles
01[13:35] {Threei}  and unsubscribe button works well
01[13:36] {Threei}  just like ours - which 7 of you have found out by clicking it accidentally, lol
01[13:36] {Threei}  boy, did we misdesigned that e-mail if 7 folks managed to unsubscribe themseleves accidentally
[13:37] {Les} could be secret intelligence test
[13:37] {Les} IQ test
[13:37] {Les} I failed :)
01[13:37] {Threei}  reflexive clicking test
[13:37] {Les} not a frikin word nemo
[13:37] {Les} playing with his bunny
[13:38] {Will49} is that code for something?
[13:38] {Les} http://www.blogger.com/profile/12115825900355965561
[13:39] {nemo} haven't seen her today
[13:40] {Les} she got the whole house?
01[13:40] {Threei}  (EU) Germany Chancellor Merkel's CDU party expected to pass a resolution at December party meetings explicitly refusing joint liability for other euro zone countries (i.e. cementing rejection of euro bonds), and warn ECB against overextending its bond buying programs for weaker EMU nations
01[13:40] {Threei}  huh
01[13:40] {Threei}  in the past such headline wouyld have killed the market instantly
01[13:40] {Threei}  I guess no one believes this anymore
[13:42] {Les} VWAP is now .40 on AIG. new stop?
01[13:42] {Threei}  I'd prfer it tolose .30 for stop trail
[13:42] {Les} ok
[13:44] {Les} die frikin /&%%*
01[13:44] {Threei}  trail now
01[13:46] {Threei}  1:1
01[13:50] {Threei}  no go JCP
[13:52] {scottie} OK, maximum daily loss reached, I am going to lick my wounds and see you tomorrow.
[13:52] {Will49} keep the faith scottie
01[13:52] {Threei}  still in AIG?
[13:52] {Will49} I am
[13:53] {scottie} Covered the rest at .26
01[13:53] {Threei}  take care scottie, tomorrow's bound to be better
[13:53] {Les} ciao scottie
[13:54] {scottie} the good thing about a day like today, is that tomorrow will certainly be better :)
[13:54] {scottie} bye everyone
[13:55] {Les} potential DT here AIG
[13:55] {Les} DB
[13:55] {Les} here comes DLTR
[14:06] {Les} cover AIG .28 gotta eat
01[14:22] {Threei}  stop to .31
[14:30] {Les} Vad MON is a bubble buster
[14:30] {Les} .65 b/d hoilding .72?
01[14:30] {Threei}  I think so
[14:34] {Les} shrted the DT .69
[14:34] {Les} want .50
[14:39] {Les} stopped
01[14:41] {Threei}  AIG is drifitng toward 1:2
[14:42] {dino} gj
[14:42] {Will49} longest trade I've ever been in :)
01[14:43] {Threei}  yeah, takes its sweet time
[14:43] {Will49} that's a good thing, as Martha says
01[14:43] {Threei}  but with any luck is capable of 1:3
01[14:46] {Threei}  (GR) Greece Govt official indicates that the Govt will not accept Troika request to cut 20K employees from state workforce
01[14:47] {Threei}  CA) Canada PM Harper: Surprised by the level of protectionism seen in the US; Keystone pipeline is crucial component for energy security- US denial of Keystone Pipeline approval shows Canada needs to diversify its energy exports, can't rely on the US as only big energy custome
01[14:48] {Threei}  what's with sudden bout of happiness
[14:55] {Les} lot of bubble busters today, but relentless grind up
01[14:56] {Threei}  out AIG on trail
01[14:56] {Threei}  grrr
01[14:58] {Threei} Long Setup:  COST  .40 break
01[14:58] {Threei}  If holds  .30
[15:02] {Les} FB
[15:02] {Les} break of .90?
[15:02] {Les} with some consolidation
01[15:03] {Threei}  not sure... these market spikes make me think final move for the day will be up
[15:03] {Les} ok. certainly active here
01[15:13] {Threei} Long Setup:  WMT  .75 break
01[15:14] {Threei}  If holds  .65
01[15:14] {Threei}  target .95
[15:20] {dino} took hours, but out mstr ave .51, +.45
[15:21] {Les} patience is a virtue gj
[15:21] {dino} ty
01[15:28] {Threei}  OK WMT
01[15:28] {Threei}  let's do it
06[15:33] * Threei kicks WMT in the rear
01[15:35] {Threei}  1:1
[15:44] {thomcbell} lvs late in the day scared longs?
01[15:46] {Threei}  I guess
01[15:46] {Threei}  WMT 1:2 target hit
[15:46] {Les} moooooooooor
[15:46] {Les} e
01[15:46] {Threei}  don't tell me no one got it
[15:46] {Les} oh yeh
[15:46] {Les} all out .98¨
[15:46] {Will49} Hoooooray
01[15:46] {Threei}  whew
[15:47] {Will49} nice way to end the day
[15:47] {dino} calling it a day, thx all
[15:47] {Will49} as you say, the day gets brighter
01[15:47] {Threei}  take care dino
[15:47] {Les} yeh cheers all
01[15:47] {Threei}  actually, about breakeven here
[15:47] {Will49} see you tomorrow
01[15:48] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
01[15:48] {Threei}  see you tomorrow