Tuesday, January 8, 2008

January 8, 2008

Session Start: Tue Jan 08 00:00:00 2008

Session Time: Tue Jan 08 00:00:00 2008

[05:37] {BillyD} morning RT
[05:40] {Threei} Good morning
[05:40] {BillyD} Vad :)
[05:41] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:42] {Threei} ISIS
[05:42] {Threei} big gap but pullback from high is getting decent too
[05:43] {Threei} Pharmaceuticals Inc Concludes strategic alliance with Genzyme; Company to be paid $325M upon closing in equity and cash
[05:43] {Threei} - Genzyme will pay Company $150M to purchase 5M shares of Company's common stock at $30/shr on Hart-Scott-Rodino clearance.
[05:43] {Threei} - Upon completion of final contracts, Genzyme will pay Company a $175M up-front license fee for mipomersen, the Company's lipid-lowering treatment for high-risk cardiovascular patients. In addition to this initial $325M, Company has the potential to receive signifi
[05:43] {Threei} significant milestone payments for mipomersen, which is currently undergoing Phase III trials. Once the product has been launched, the two companies will share profits
[05:43] {Threei} - Deal has up to $750M in potential commerical milestones.
[05:43] {Threei} - Genzyme will develop and commercialize mipomersen, and will have preferred access to future drugs for CNS and certain rare diseases.
[05:44] {hawkfan4} good morning all
[05:44] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:45] {BillyD} morning hawk
[05:45] {hawkfan4} Vad, Billy :)
[05:47] {magoo} morn
[05:48] {BillyD} magoo :)
[05:49] {dptl} good morning all
[05:49] {Threei} magoo, dp :)
[05:51] {magoo} genz is paying to ISIS vad?
[05:52] {Threei} sounds this way
[05:58] {dino} gm all
[05:58] {Threei} dino :)
[05:59] {esemde} morning RT's
[05:59] {Threei} ese :)
[06:00] {esemde} how was your first day back Vad......feel rusty
[06:00] {esemde} SBUX moving on my radar
[06:01] {dino} new ceo i think
[06:01] {Threei} profitable, so me is satisfied... as for rusty - I feel rusty 24/7/365
[06:02] {cosmo} i call it patina
[06:02] {Threei} but couple drops of WD40 in the morning do a miracle
[06:03] {Threei} no more sqeak in the knee or elbow
[06:05] {esemde} ISIS...Genzyme to license it's cholesterol-lowering treatment
[06:05] {esemde} up %48
[06:06] {Threei} was almost 23, and close to 30 yest after hours
[06:06] {magoo} u reading ISIS vad?
[06:07] {Threei} rather watching to see if it's readable
[06:09] {Threei} shortable btw
[06:09] {magoo} near 30 afterhrs?
[06:10] {Threei} yes
[06:10] {Threei} I guess that part in news talking about 30 per share was miscostrued as actual buyout
[06:29] {BillyD} .
[06:29] {Threei} good point
[06:29] {BillyD} want to make sure motor is running
[06:30] {magoo} watching fslr for a lil recovery
[06:33] {BillyD} ISIS is blistering
[06:33] {Threei} half lot long ISIS with stop under .40
[06:33] {Threei} lol, lost .40 before comment even went through
[06:37] {lumdus} maybe isis this leg down ?
[06:38] {bruce} hway dino
[06:38] {BillyD} tough one
[06:39] {lumdus} yeah, dough to read. maybe next dump i go in.
[06:39] {dino} hway dk, last two days jumpy
[06:41] {Threei} NVDA short with stop above 27
[06:41] {BillyD} here
[06:41] {lumdus} in isis 18.57 out 18.90
[06:41] {lumdus} tx vad
[06:41] {Threei} invalidated before showed weakness
[06:42] {esemde} out AMMD from yesterday .96 +.16
[06:44] {bruce} matk short?
[06:45] {Threei} if loses .40
[06:46] {bruce} sbux holdinghighs - long?
[06:47] {dino} vrus bit crazy last two days
[06:47] {Threei} SBUX .31 with .19 stop, yes
[06:48] {dino} meli l .49
[06:48] {BillyD} in SBUX .31
[06:48] {magoo} me too
[06:48] {dptl} in.31
[06:50] {Threei} sheesh
[06:50] {BillyD} out
[06:50] {dptl} out
[06:50] {Threei} wtf
[06:50] {lumdus} wow that was quick
[06:51] {magoo} ISIS vad?read on it?
[06:51] {bruce} drat -p worked over in sbux and missed matk
[06:51] {magoo} feels higher
[06:53] {Threei} no read mags
[06:54] {Roman} long CPST
[06:54] {Roman} 1.82 1/2 size
[06:56] {esemde} anyone thinking Long ISIS around .56
[06:56] {magoo} i am..but its risky..hl
[06:56] {esemde} anyone thinking long isis around .56
[06:57] {magoo} should go 20 area
[06:57] {esemde} I'll be with ya
[06:59] {esemde} hmmm maybe not
[07:00] {Threei} NOV PENDING HOME SALES (M/M): -2.6% V -0.7%E
[07:00] {Threei} JAN IBD/TIPP ECONOMIC OPTIMISM: 43.2 V 43.0E
[07:01] {esemde} LEAP into the picture......
[07:02] {esemde} nice play on words there
[07:03] {bruce} edge is STILL ending delayed quotes
[07:03] {BillyD} I have edge off permanently for my quotes
[07:03] {Threei} me too, got tired of weeding it out every day
[07:05] {BillyD} CYTR
[07:05] {BillyD} see no news
[07:05] {magoo} so do i
[07:06] {Threei} nice one CPST Roman, ty
[07:06] {Roman} yw
[07:06] {Threei} BMRN, half lot long .17
[07:06] {Threei} if stays above 39
[07:08] {BillyD} in .17
[07:09] {magoo} in .17
[07:09] {dptl} in.18
[07:09] {dino} meli out .26,
[07:10] {dino} +.77
[07:10] {Threei} you own this one dino
[07:10] {magoo} no he doesn't..sdold it
[07:10] {dino} lucky thats all
[07:11] {bruce} stop just under 39 for bmrn?
[07:11] {Threei} yes
[07:13] {Threei} IDIX?
[07:14] {Threei} I see no fresh news
[07:14] {Threei} 3 break loks interesting on daily
[07:15] {dino} drys l .50
[07:15] {Threei} am I cursed today or what?
[07:15] {Roman} looking long CSIQ
[07:15] {esemde} long SBUX .39
[07:15] {dptl} stoped bmrn
[07:16] {esemde} 1/2 lot
[07:17] {Roman} watching CSIQ if breaks 24.5
[07:20] {bruce} is qcom long break worth try - would prefer more volume in it
[07:21] {Roman} in CSIQ
[07:22] {Roman} small. 24.45 area
[07:24] {dino} out drys .68, +1.18
[07:24] {Roman} long CSUN
[07:25] {Roman} 14.10
[07:25] {dino} tough crowd huh magoo?
[07:25] {esemde} nice one Roman CSIQ
[07:25] {BillyD} gj dino :)
[07:26] {dino} ty bd
[07:29] {esemde} SBUX should make at least 21 i think...
[07:30] {magoo} dependsa on mkt imho
[07:30] {Threei} sure, it shook us out so skilfully earlier, why not
[07:30] {magoo} if reverses..down sbux goes
[07:30] {magoo} actually vad...i just vcut it .54
[07:30] {magoo} lol
[07:31] {magoo} go ahead and slap me
[07:31] {Threei} what, you decided blowing stops is a better strategy? :)
[07:31] {Threei} no need... market will
[07:31] {magoo} no..but it really didn't look bad to my "feel"
[07:32] {magoo} but, i did take your bmrn stop
[07:32] {magoo} and your first stop
[07:32] {Threei} first?
[07:32] {dino} s rok .24
[07:32] {magoo} u off to shaky start boss {as i run for cover}
[07:33] {Threei} nah, you stay, I go back to sleep
[07:34] {magoo} watching solf fior bounce
[07:34] {esemde} out SBUX .77 +.38
[07:34] {BillyD} wtg ese
[07:35] {esemde} tks
[07:35] {magoo} nice ES
[07:35] {patience} nice ese
[07:35] {dino} etg ese
[07:35] {esemde} made the 21 mark
[07:36] {dino} wtg
[07:36] {magoo} hey vad..my level 2 has a bad ARCAB quote all the time, any thoughts on it, like as in we ditched edge
[07:36] {Threei} kill it same way
[07:36] {magoo} well..i do not want to kill arcab do i?
[07:37] {dino} burn 'em all magoo, burn 'em all
[07:37] {Threei} if it has bad quotes you do... if not you don't...
[07:37] {Threei} I don't see wrong quotes on it
[07:38] {magoo} pull up bmrn
[07:38] {magoo} bmrn
[07:38] {magoo} 38.80
[07:38] {Threei} not here
[07:38] {Threei} ARCAb 38.99 right now
[07:38] {BillyD} not here
[07:38] {Threei} .98
[07:39] {Threei} none at .80
[07:39] {magoo} sheesh..i do stuill
[07:39] {magoo} server?
[07:39] {Threei} 17
[07:39] {BillyD} 7
[07:39] {magoo} weird still there
[07:39] {dptl} 14
[07:40] {magoo} oh well
[07:41] {magoo} i like solf long here .25
[07:42] {magoo} canx that
[07:43] {magoo} man..choppy out there
[07:44] {BillyD} yeah, just thinking...can't really see anything
[07:45] {lumdus} s esrx
[07:45] {bruce} amgn on radar dino
[07:46] {lumdus} esrx short 75.47 sto at b/e
[07:46] {dino} amgn raised guidance fwiw
[07:46] {lumdus} vad, esrx looks very weak ? i got that right?
[07:47] {bruce} nice play lum
[07:47] {dino} would've worked brucer, nice spot
[07:47] {lumdus} bruce, today i am trying to be very careful.
[07:48] {lumdus} damm, sold 1/2 lot and almost b/e on esrx.wtf
[07:50] {dino} risky sm s vrus .00
[07:50] {lumdus} jbht might do it ?
[07:51] {bruce} wow - 70 c spread dino
[07:52] {lumdus} jbht low volume ach
[07:52] {Threei} ISIS long.76
[07:52] {Threei} stop under .70
[07:53] {dino} yeah, you know me, :), thats why small
[07:53] {dino} had it too, but got greedy
[07:54] {dptl} in .78
[07:55] {dptl} out+.12 ty
[07:55] {Threei} out 19.05
[07:55] {BillyD} nice Vad....
[07:55] {dino} qmar
[07:56] {lumdus} out 19.06 tx vad
[07:56] {Threei} welcome
[07:57] {dino} gj guys
[07:57] {BillyD} how did I not get a fill on it and everyone else did....
[07:58] {lumdus} i use mbt billD
[07:58] {dino} (un)lucky
[07:58] {BillyD} lol
[07:58] {dino} :)
[07:59] {magoo} u suk?he he
[07:59] {Threei} what's with GERN today?
[08:00] {Threei} Roman, any idea? you keep an eye on this one often
[08:00] {Roman} nothing special on it
[08:00] {Threei} just a bounce?
[08:01] {Roman} yep
[08:02] {dino} vrus stopped -.50 sm
[08:02] {lumdus} we taking GERN ?
[08:03] {magoo} roman, u still in CSIQ?
[08:03] {Roman} no
[08:04] {Threei} SEED long if 9 is scrolling
[08:04] {Threei} risky one
[08:06] {dino} markets approaching lod
[08:07] {magoo} rfr, ty
[08:07] {Threei} ISIS feels like preparing surprise
[08:07] {magoo} getting faster
[08:07] {dino} qmar s .88, stop .16
[08:09] {Threei} pullback buy ISIS
[08:09] {magoo} close to 19?
[08:09] {Threei} I doubt it's going that low
[08:09] {magoo} might not get there
[08:10] {Threei} .30 closest support so far
[08:10] {magoo} feels like 20plus
[08:11] {Threei} market weakens... would like a little help from it
[08:11] {dptl} you in?
[08:11] {Threei} but if holding here while NQ downticks, even better indication of squeeze coming
[08:11] {Threei} not yet dp
[08:11] {Threei} want to see fast buying returning
[08:11] {BillyD} if holds..take .50 area then?
[08:12] {BillyD} cancel that
[08:12] {esemde} I'm outta here...have a great rest of the day....
[08:12] {Threei} take care ese
[08:12] {bruce} bye ese
[08:12] {magoo} bye es
[08:12] {Threei} touched 19... too fast for entry
[08:14] {Threei} NQ still dumping... doesn't instill confidence
[08:15] {dino} cov qmar .64, +.24
[08:16] {Threei} ok in
[08:16] {Threei} can't resist, stop under 19
[08:16] {Threei} may take reentry
[08:16] {Threei} hard to tell here
[08:16] {lumdus} where ISIS ?
[08:16] {Threei} .08
[08:17] {dptl} .03
[08:17] {Threei} come on NQ, raise your head
[08:17] {lumdus} jumpy one isis
[08:19] {magoo} held fairly well vad
[08:19] {Threei} but still doesn't reverse for real
[08:19] {lumdus} magoo make sure fingure on sell button :)
[08:19] {Threei} this long hesitation can resolve any way
[08:19] {magoo} .40 area turned it back now 3 times
[08:21] {Threei} NQ looks better
[08:22] {Threei} let's do it ISIS
[08:22] {lumdus} isis had too many head fakes' for me
[08:23] {magoo} out
[08:24] {lumdus} a break of 19.00 and wamm !
[08:24] {magoo} short loss 19
[08:24] {lumdus} now that's a grade ..
[08:24] {lumdus} grade=trade
[08:24] {dptl} out
[08:27] {dptl} damn
[08:31] {BillyD} there are just some stubborn/nasty personaalities out there lately
[08:31] {BillyD} in some stock's movement
[08:32] {dptl} you still in Vad?
[08:33] {Threei} yes
[08:33] {dptl} thinking to get back in
[08:34] {Threei} SBUX sizeable pullback
[08:35] {Threei} NQ is still dumping dp...
[08:35] {Threei} tough decision
[08:37] {dptl} in .03
[08:39] {dino} stopped rok .30, -.06
[08:42] {Threei} out
[08:43] {BillyD} too much
[08:43] {Threei} just can't get a feel what it wants to do next
[08:43] {BillyD} drama on it here...lol
[08:43] {dino} synt
[08:46] {magoo} man..nasty
[08:48] {dino} synt l .51 risky, wide
[08:48] {Threei} lol ISIS
[08:50] {Threei} you kept it dp?
[08:50] {dptl} no got out flat
[08:53] {Threei} freakin thing has strong flavor of squeeze coming... but to find an entry on it is a whole other story
[08:54] {dino} be done w/it
[08:54] {Roman} long PAAS small & slow
[08:56] {dino} synt stopped -.50
[08:58] {dino} rinsed
[08:58] {Roman} GOLD
[08:58] {Roman} CRDC getting ready for something
[09:00] {magoo} if IF ISIS gets thgru .50, long to 20
[09:01] {Threei} with two shakes to 18.80 along the way {G}
[09:01] {Threei} just kidding... my feeling of strong move coming too
[09:01] {Threei} but it trades brutally
[09:03] {dino} synt l round two .35
[09:04] {Threei} look at this
[09:07] {magoo} kind of oblivious to naz
[09:08] {Threei} yes, there was some correlation earlier, not anymore
[09:12] {dptl} nvda?
[09:16] {Threei} way stronger than one could expect
[09:16] {Threei} but it has NQ correlation
[09:17] {Threei} and NQ is whacky
[09:25] {Threei} bruce
[09:25] {Threei} could you just give your recipe for ISIS?
[09:25] {Threei} "close your eyes and buy"
[09:25] {dino} thats cheating
[09:25] {magoo} looking good
[09:26] {dino} thank you
[09:26] {dino} it's the low carb
[09:26] {magoo} prob explode to 21 vad
[09:26] {Threei} easy
[09:26] {Threei} with couple pullback to 18.50 along the way
[09:26] {BillyD} lol
[09:27] {bruce} lol
[09:27] {magoo} thats why our eyes are closed
[09:28] {bruce} isis is indeterminate to me vad
[09:28] {Threei} pullbacks are supported, highs get taken, shakes are brutal and invariably turn out just shakes...
[09:28] {bruce} my hunch is that it is stil a short though as day goes on
[09:28] {magoo} i say near 21 today
[09:30] {Threei} OK, I found the way to play it
[09:31] {magoo} coiling big time
[09:31] {Threei} this teleporting to .27, in
[09:31] {Threei} teleporting back upto above .40, out
[09:31] {magoo} gonna go
[09:31] {magoo} in
[09:32] {magoo} .47
[09:32] {magoo} dammit..naz not helping
[09:33] {dino} synt stopped -.10
[09:34] {dino} done w.it
[09:34] {Threei} nice support .50
[09:36] {Threei} if this .58 offer is taken...
[09:36] {magoo} are there any other stocks available to trade today he he?
[09:36] {Threei} and taken it will be
[09:36] {Threei} there
[09:37] {BillyD} what's stop vad
[09:38] {Threei} by bruce
[09:38] {dptl} half out '62
[09:38] {magoo} if IF it gets 20.15 going ballistic
[09:39] {magoo} it will never turn back again
[09:39] {magoo} ever
[09:40] {magoo} out .73
[09:41] {magoo} look to reload it
[09:43] {magoo} good out magoo..thanx vad :)
[09:44] {dino} taking a break
[09:44] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:46] {Threei} good pullback for entry
[09:47] {Threei} CSIQ
[09:49] {bruce} crox dino
[09:51] {magoo} SOLF too vad
[09:52] {dptl} nvda?
[09:52] {dino} sorry bruce taking a break, did fine, but missed last two, so clear my head w/walk
[09:52] {Threei} don't know NVDA
[09:52] {dino} crox imo, strike to 30, then maybe down
[09:53] {Threei} INCY lost its mind
[09:54] {bruce} k dino
[09:55] {Threei} here comes one of those brutal pullbacks ISIS
[09:56] {magoo} any read on FSLR?
[09:58] {Threei} yuck
[09:58] {magoo} anyone any read anytime?
[10:01] {bruce} taking break
[10:08] {lumdus} isis little bounc
[10:19] {lumdus} nvda might break
[10:29] {dptl} out nvda +.23
[10:31] {lumdus} ok, my setups are not working this pm that well. time to watch myself. Note to self
[10:34] {lumdus} dptl, not ready to give up on nvda but that was huge pullback and quick. This AM things where pretty smooth. Now, not looking great
[10:35] {Threei} 19.06 probably worth a try ISIS
[10:36] {Threei} volume pertty much dried up on this retreat, and there was no selling frenzy really
[10:36] {Threei} whether buying frenzy returns is a big if
[10:36] {dptl} stop?
[10:36] {Threei} but risk is pretty small here
[10:36] {Threei} under 19
[10:37] {dptl} in.07
[10:38] {Threei} it goes through another period of indecision, hard to tell which way it resolves,
[10:38] {Threei} so just gotta catch a moment with tight stop
[10:38] {Threei} and let it show what it wants
[10:38] {Threei} if resumes upward push, win will be quite sizeable, if not stop will be tight
[10:45] {Threei} pre-frenzy
[10:45] {magoo} be back in hour, got apptmt
[10:45] {Threei} hurry
[10:45] {Threei} we won't wait for you to sell ISIS at 21
[10:49] {Threei} half out dp
[10:49] {Threei} you have 30 cents
[10:49] {Threei} don't let it all slip away
[10:49] {dptl} out....1st +.10..second +.19..ty
[10:50] {Threei} :)
[10:50] {Threei} SEED
[10:51] {Threei} called 9 entry earlier but happened too suddenly, afraid we missed it
[10:52] {Threei} so dp... are morning stops fully rectified?
[10:52] {bruce} + .20 c isis \thanx vad
[10:52] {bruce} needed that
[10:52] {Threei} welcome sir
[10:53] {bruce} still down on day though
[10:53] {dptl} yep in green now
[10:53] {Threei} cool beans... patience, cold blood and discipline work miracles
[10:53] {bruce} that was a nice trade - with reward larger than risk
[10:54] {dptl} FOR SURE
[10:54] {Threei} here is little psychological trick to be in this mindset:
[10:54] {Threei} do not view trading in "event" terms
[10:54] {Threei} look at it as a process
[10:55] {Threei} single trade has no singificance,
[10:55] {Threei} no matter what outcome is (as long as you control risk of course)
[10:55] {dino} sm l gs .37
[10:55] {Threei} when you view it as a continuing process, frustration of any given stop disappears
[10:56] {Threei} and trading frustration-free in turns frees your mind for objective evaluation of the next opportinutity
[10:56] {Threei} as opposite to "ouch, I am in red, gotta make it back, where is my chance"
[10:57] {Threei} mindset that pushes you into grabbing anything that moves
[10:57] {Threei} digging deeper hole
[10:57] {Threei} frikking SEED got away
[10:57] {lumdus} seed just going
[10:58] {bruce} as in - frikken seed got away vad?
[10:58] {bruce} got you
[10:59] {Threei} did I even say something?
[10:59] {Threei} :)
[10:59] {dino} good trading is not about being right, its' about trading right
[10:59] {Threei} great, dino goes all Zen on us
[10:59] {dino} feelig underappreciated
[10:59] {dino} :)
[10:59] {Threei} welcome to the club
[11:03] {dino} out gs .98, +.61
[11:03] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:03] {bruce} feeling better?
[11:03] {Threei} I was fine even without fish smell of my shirt, thank you
[11:03] * bruce slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {Threei} out ISIS 22.30
[11:04] {Threei} I was fine even without fish smell of my shirt, thank you
[11:04] {Threei} oops
[11:04] {Threei} (nevermind, I just typed it for magoo to read and faint when he returns)
[11:04] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {bruce} trout appreciation day
[11:04] {dino} ouch
[11:08] {bruce} you're welcome
[11:10] {bruce} incy mojo
[11:12] {dino} crox again
[11:15] {Threei} CSIQ is holding well
[11:16] {dino} partial fill s crox .70
[11:16] {BillyD} entry
[11:16] {BillyD} ?
[11:17] {BillyD} that move cause to rethink
[11:17] {Threei} sharp selling into 25.50, possibly lower
[11:17] {Threei} no, not really
[11:17] {Threei} it's norlam for this stock
[11:17] {Threei} normal
[11:17] {BillyD} thought was around 26 if seemed to hold
[11:18] {lumdus} sap
[11:18] {Threei} it tends to come to logical support and break it before recovering
[11:18] {BillyD} but it is still logical for it
[11:19] {Threei} it's usually a buy off second support
[11:20] {dino} cov crox .40, +.30
[11:23] {BillyD} so far .79 holds
[11:25] {Threei} I don't like it here
[11:25] {Threei} kind of middle of nowhere
[11:26] {Threei} far from support, far from resistance, doesn'
[11:26] {Threei} t go up with NQ
[11:26] {Threei} doesn't drop because of NQ syrength either
[11:26] {BillyD} it's own logic
[11:26] {BillyD} personality
[11:27] {Threei} better now
[11:27] {lumdus} csiq ?
[11:27] {Threei} yeah
[11:27] {lumdus} let me know when you are in
[11:27] {Threei} nope
[11:27] {Threei} I intent to make it a secret
[11:28] {dptl} lol
[11:28] {lumdus} hey, how can i do that slap with a trout stuff ?
[11:28] {Threei} no way
[11:28] {Threei} we confiscated all the trouts
[11:28] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:28] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:28] {Threei} except bruce's
[11:28] {dino} magoo looking at houses
[11:29] {bruce} held my trouter
[11:29] {Threei} closer to .50 get ready,
[11:29] {Threei} watch for strenghtening,
[11:29] {Threei} don't buy on pricve alone, watch for it to stabilize and show signs of reversal,
[11:29] {Threei} don't bite if it slides slowly,
[11:29] {Threei} rather wait for a quick dive
[11:30] {Threei} if it reverses before showing anything readable, shrug and let it be
[11:30] {Threei} ISIS baby
[11:30] {BillyD} ISIS trying
[11:30] {Threei} my tunr dp:
[11:30] {Threei} half out
[11:31] {dptl} :)
[11:31] {Threei} from 19.08
[11:31] {dptl} nice
[11:31] {Threei} just don't take it as indication that you did something wrong
[11:32] {Threei} that was a very good play on your part
[11:32] {Threei} and I have to say:
[11:32] {Threei} with the way ISIS treated us earlier, it took guts and conviction to go for it again when you did
[11:33] {dptl} ty
[11:33] {Threei} bruce... now please trout him before his head goes too big
[11:34] {dino} gj dp
[11:34] {dptl} ty
[11:34] {bruce} congrat dp
[11:35] {Threei} sheesh
[11:35] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:35] {Threei} trout bearer goes all soft on us
[11:35] {dptl} lol
[11:35] {Threei} and actually confuses his targets
[11:35] {BillyD} never could tell sellers everywhere this morning w/ volatile moves.....always changes
[11:36] {BillyD} ebbs and flow
[11:36] {Threei} live in now
[11:36] {Threei} or as dino will tell us when he goes ultimate Zen, be the water
[11:37] {BillyD} lol
[11:37] {Threei} but on serious note...
[11:37] {Threei} get this book and read first 94 pages (in my edition at least):
[11:37] {Threei} Power of Now
[11:37] {Threei} Ekhart Tolle or something close
[11:37] {BillyD} thtais it
[11:37] {Threei} wonderful trading book
[11:38] {dino} just bought it vad
[11:38] {BillyD} that is it
[11:38] {Threei} even though auhor [robably never heard of trading as profession
[11:38] {Threei} you will like it dino, I promise
[11:38] {BillyD} it is applicable to everything
[11:38] {dino} good
[11:38] {Threei} just don't go beyond page 95, IMO :)
[11:39] {dino} read the first half of the way of the turtles, very similar to your way of teaching, just diffenernt markets
[11:39] {Threei} full power switch from amazing stuff to total bs... they needed a filler for more pages I guess
[11:40] {patience} which markets were discussed dino?
[11:40] {Threei} I never read it dino... for exactly this reason
[11:40] {Threei} someone told me it was very similar
[11:40] {Threei} so I decided not to waste my time :)
[11:41] {dino} it re-inforced alot you what you teach.....individual trades don't matter, get your edge, control risk, be consuistant, keep it simple. etc
[11:41] {Threei} :)
[11:41] {dino} yeah, i see your point, it helped me, as did you
[11:43] {dino} crox, darn, thought it would hit .85 again
[11:44] {Threei} CSIQ came to support area
[11:44] {Threei} NQ pushed it there, watch both
[11:45] {Threei} and don't go crazy on size, thin trader
[11:45] {dino} gfig
[11:46] {Threei} come on CSIQ, dive under .50
[11:47] {Threei} closest support is .25 now
[11:47] {Threei} be ready NQ is about to bounce
[11:48] {dino} pretty good dow pullback
[11:49] {Threei} in
[11:49] {Threei} got .53
[11:49] {Threei} stop .39
[11:50] {Threei} out .89
[11:50] {BillyD} nice
[11:51] {BillyD} I saw the trigger on it but not on NDX so passed
[11:51] {Threei} precise scenario I decasribed earlier
[11:51] {Threei} ummm
[11:51] {Threei} decasribed?
[11:51] {Threei} sigh
[11:52] {Threei} slide into suport, quick selling under it, strengthening
[11:52] {BillyD} 2 pennies under it?
[11:52] {Threei} 3 I think... not much drop but pace was good
[11:53] {Threei} had this intimidating quality about it
[11:53] {Threei} creating impression drop is coming and going to be cratering
[11:53] {BillyD} I saw the turn but thought NQ was confirmationand didn't se it
[11:53] {Threei} instead, bids come in and ofers get taken
[11:53] {lumdus} i blinked and saw nothing
[11:53] {Threei} NQ just stalled at the time, yeah
[11:54] {BillyD} my ...
[11:54] {BillyD} :)
[11:54] {Threei} that's why I tried to give an idea in dvance lum, there is usually no way to post in time
[11:54] {Threei} not on this kind
[11:54] {lumdus} 3i, you did what you need too. i drank coffe for 1/2 second cost me $$
[11:55] {Threei} but at least coffee was good?
[11:55] {Threei} not good ISIS
[11:55] {Threei} too deep
[11:56] {lumdus} oh man
[11:58] {dino} lol
[11:58] {Threei} not interested in CSIQ until 25
[12:00] {dino} dji -100
[12:00] {Threei} NOV CONSUMER CREDIT: $15.4B V $8.0BE
[12:00] {lumdus} hmm, looks like we going south
[12:00] {BillyD} [12:35] {BillyD} never could tell sellers everywhere this morning w/ volatile moves.....always changes
[12:00] {BillyD} [12:36] {BillyD} ebbs and flow
[12:01] {BillyD} now opposite...lol
[12:01] {lumdus} Billy AM session was great. I scr**d up in PM
[12:01] {dino} another roughly 200 pt range day
[12:01] {lumdus} I tried to catch a falling knife. I guess I need to learn my lesson a little better
[12:02] {BillyD} it's just a certain time frame looks so solid one way and in a short completely opposite
[12:02] {dino} shake it off lumdus
[12:03] {BillyD} reason to live in the Now and not assume the now means the same as later
[12:03] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {bruce} anyone having [problems with data now?
[12:03] {lumdus} a good trade go bad I don't care a bad trade i hate. falling knife was a bad trade
[12:03] {bruce} my time4 and sales and level 2 don't match up
[12:03] {BillyD} Laser bruce?
[12:03] {BillyD} mine ok
[12:03] {Threei} ARCA book seems to be delayed
[12:04] {bruce} yes
[12:04] {bruce} brcm says 66 - by 67
[12:04] {bruce} and trades going off at .77
[12:04] {magoo} back
[12:04] {magoo} anything going?
[12:04] * bruce slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:05] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:05] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:05] {Threei} dp... let's save magoo from major upset? or let's tell him?
[12:05] {BillyD} hey bruce, did you swing so hard and slap yourself
[12:05] * bruce slaps BillyD around a bit with a large trout
[12:05] {magoo} c'mon..tell me
[12:06] {dptl} a,just tell him
[12:06] {BillyD} hehe
[12:06] {Threei} yeah bruce, you started well with * bruce slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:06] {Threei} then you lost your way
[12:06] {bruce} nice to share the joy billy
[12:06] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:06] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:06] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:06] {Threei} sorry mags but we hit ISIS for something like 40+ cents
[12:06] {bruce} t & sa looks better now
[12:06] {magoo} sigh
[12:07] {Threei} it's dp's fault
[12:07] {Threei} I didn't want to tell you
[12:07] {dptl} going for smoke
[12:07] {Threei} dcced him, said let's say we have 18 stops while he was gone
[12:07] {Threei} but no, dp said, "stop this nonsense and make him suffer":
[12:08] {Threei} now you can see him going for happy smoke
[12:08] {Threei} smoke of deep satisfaction, can you tell
[12:08] {dptl} lol
[12:09] {cosmo} happy smoke?
[12:09] {Threei} it's legal over here cos
[12:09] {cosmo} gee
[12:09] {BillyD} serious Vad?
[12:09] {Threei} nah :)
[12:10] {cosmo} wait till 2012
[12:10] {Threei} but tolerance is much higher
[12:10] {bruce} vad pulling your trout billy
[12:10] {BillyD} wow....was wondering why you always come back after "5" a little wackier
[12:10] {Threei} market is going down the drain
[12:11] {dino} leap fall
[12:12] {bruce} die market!
[12:12] {bruce} die!
[12:12] {Threei} missed prevoius bounce CSIQ, but do you see it doing exactly the same thing once again?
[12:12] {bruce} long qid vadster?
[12:12] {Threei} came into 25, lost it, dumped 3 cents and bounced big
[12:12] {Threei} too vertical for my taste here bruce
[12:12] {bruce} too late - already skiped
[12:13] {BillyD} lost .11 before the big bounce
[12:13] {BillyD} I see your ....
[12:13] {bruce} brcm close to long bounce?
[12:14] {Threei} feels so, atch NQ for help
[12:16] {Threei} bounce time
[12:17] {dino} not yet
[12:18] {magoo} BTW,
[12:18] * magoo slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[12:18] {bruce} I'm w dino - a bit more selling
[12:19] {dino} sm l gfig .60
[12:20] {magoo} im with vad, happy smoke
[12:20] {bruce} we've had quite a few of these market selloffs last few days vad
[12:20] {bruce} must be a way to catch em
[12:20] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:21] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:22] {bruce} bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large happy smoke
[12:22] {Threei} wow, no bounce to speak of
[12:23] {bruce} not yet
[12:23] {magoo} that does it bruce lol
[12:23] {bruce} this is what we've been seeling lamost every day vad
[12:23] * magoo slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:23] {dino} jumped the shark, so to speak
[12:24] {bruce} bruce slaps magoos trout with a large happy smoke
[12:24] {bruce} t &s whacked out again
[12:24] {bruce} maybe due to volume
[12:24] {BillyD} it's ARCA bruce
[12:25] {Threei} it's not T*S
[12:25] {Threei} it's ARCA book
[12:25] {BillyD} it was doing it yesterday as well
[12:25] {magoo} vad, isis can short
[12:25] {dino} now
[12:25] {magoo} surprised it hasn't given much back
[12:26] {bruce} reversal call heere dino?
[12:26] {dino} up i mean
[12:26] {dino} market, not isis
[12:26] {dino} disregard me
[12:26] {dino} yes bruce that what i ment, didn't want anyone to think i was playing isis
[12:27] {dino} 20 pts only, then down, sheesh
[12:28] {dino} rimm
[12:29] {dino} out gfig +.24
[12:32] {dino} l meli sm .75
[12:33] {magoo} now, yesterday mkt spiked hard iunto bell
[12:34] {dino} out meli .99, +.24
[12:34] {BillyD} nice dino
[12:34] {dino} guess i was an oracle on that bounce call
[12:34] {dino} ty bd, bit of luck on entry
[12:34] {magoo} yeah..u and buffett
[12:35] {BillyD} good risk dino
[12:35] {magoo} next u gonna reside in omaha
[12:35] {lumdus} it's hard to go from a huge win in the Am to a loss in the PM. hitting myself
[12:35] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[12:35] {magoo} i reversed that
[12:35] {dino} i was thinking the matrix, but whast the hell
[12:35] {lumdus} magoo i did it to myself
[12:35] {magoo} huge down early..up now
[12:36] {lumdus} good for you. seems every time i learn what i do wrong i do something else stupid
[12:36] {magoo} what u do briefly?
[12:36] {magoo} blow stop or go to big?
[12:36] {dino} we've all been there lumdus, as long as you stuck to the plan, don't kill yourself over it
[12:36] {lumdus} I tried to catch a telcom falling kninfe
[12:36] {magoo} OH NEVER
[12:37] {magoo} remember...theyalways fall farther than u think possible
[12:37] {lumdus} yup, falling knife. I realize now.
[12:37] {magoo} and run too
[12:37] {dino} ?????that is part of my style magoo????
[12:37] {lumdus} yes, need to repeat in my head many times
[12:37] {Threei} one more suggestion lum, if I may
[12:38] {Threei} when you are up nicely, put a trailing stop on your trading account
[12:38] {magoo} te biggest thing for me was to lay out ahead
[12:38] {lumdus} one sec and then i did some damm revenge trading .. 2 x
[12:38] {BillyD} dino, you play contrarian moves
[12:38] {magoo} so i get the fill
[12:38] {lumdus} i hear you 3i
[12:38] {Threei} same way as you do with stock, protect profits
[12:38] {BillyD} anticipation it seems to over reactions
[12:38] {dino} 95% of time bd
[12:38] {lumdus} it hurts alot to have this. and I am only down .07 for the day .. but damm was up $1.75
[12:39] {magoo} i use to watch and strike exits..but would miss because of greed hesitation or too fast
[12:39] {magoo} now i layout where i read its going and gety the fill
[12:40] {dino} probabilities, lumdus, probabilities, thats all it is, so play the game we must, imo
[12:40] {magoo} and u gotta be a lucky bastard like dino
[12:40] {dino} easy button helps
[12:41] {magoo} computer guy just came in and repo 1 of my computers
[12:41] {BillyD} lol
[12:41] {magoo} actually, its crashed today and he needs to take w/him
[12:41] {dino} when up over daily goal lumdus, i go to mostl;y scalps, add some here and there, no big hits
[12:41] {magoo} wheres vad??
[12:42] {Threei} who?
[12:42] {dino} vacation until next week
[12:42] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:42] {BillyD} magoo, you seem to have lots of PC issues especially w/ a PC guy
[12:42] {Threei} sigh
[12:42] {dino} crox again
[12:42] {magoo} I DO
[12:42] {magoo} no kidding..he just took my system box
[12:42] {magoo} thats why i have 2
[12:43] {magoo} i have reverse of dino...UN LUCK
[12:43] {dino} slap him....reverse your luck
[12:43] {BillyD} becareful what you download and where you surf
[12:43] {magoo} its all that porn i guess he he
[12:44] {BillyD} dino, put some parental controls on magoo's PC
[12:44] {dino} roflol
[12:46] {bruce} not much of a bounce
[12:46] {bruce} calling it a day
[12:46] {Threei} take care bruce
[12:47] {bruce} see you all tomorrow
[12:47] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:47] {magoo} bye bruce
[12:47] {Threei} ISIS will be item of interest tomorrow too
[12:49] {dino} i think i'm done for the day. thx for some good ones
[12:50] {lumdus} almost done hitting myself with a trout
[12:50] {dino} wow -215
[12:50] * BillyD slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[12:50] {BillyD} you are done
[12:51] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[12:51] {lumdus} ok, will keep hitting untill market close
[12:53] {dino} rimm taunting me
[12:53] {Threei} CSIQ still closes green
[12:53] {Threei} worth watching tomorrow too
[12:53] {magoo} incy too
[12:56] {magoo} thanx vad..good to have u back boss
[12:57] {Threei} thank you all
[12:57] {dino} thx all, good day
[12:57] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[12:57] {BillyD} bye all
[12:58] {dptl} have a good evening all
[12:58] {dino} wow -260, 341 pt ramge
[12:58] {lumdus} have a great eventing all. Hope I learned my lesson today. And Vad, good idea. Not bad day in terms of loss just down .01 after comm but bad trading.
[12:58] {dino} 2.6%
[12:59] {magoo} its all a learning curve
[12:59] {lumdus} I also over traded by quite a few.
[13:00] {magoo} drink a brew..tomorrow a new day
[13:00] {dino} lumdus, i tell magoo any day you're flat or up, it's a good day
[13:02] {lumdus} dino, i agree. However, i traded bad. Yes, I am ok $$ wise but the trades really stink . A damn falling knife i took and that's bad
[13:02] {lumdus} OK, goodnight all and thanks for the help.
[13:03] {magoo} laser, u here??
[13:20] {magoo} ok, goodnite all...tomorrow promises to be interesting

Monday, January 7, 2008

January 7, 2008

Session Start: Mon Jan 07 00:00:00 2008

Session Time: Mon Jan 07 00:00:00 2008

[05:05] {Threei} FEED
[05:05] {Threei} RECEIVES CHINESE GOVERNMENT GRANT- announced that the Company's Lushan Breeder Hog Farm was designated a "National Breeder Hog Center" by the Chinese government. AgFeed will receive RMB 300,000 in an annual grant from the government in recognition of its outstanding breeder hog products. There are a total of 46 nationally designated breeder hog centers in China as part of the government's "National Breeder Hog Testing Labs" project which pr
[05:05] {Threei} shortage.
[05:05] {Threei} Pork represents about 65% of China's annual meat consumption.
[05:05] {Threei} Good morning
[05:06] {Threei} FSLR got couple nice upgrades and seems to be reacting
[05:06] {Threei} let's see if solars follow
[05:06] {hawkfan4} Good morning Vad, welcome back
[05:06] {Threei} thank you hawk :)
[05:07] {Threei} how did the battle go?
[05:07] {hawkfan4} not bad, but overall you picked a really good time to be gone. last week especially
[05:08] {Threei} I guess vacation timing comes as overall package for a trader {G}
[05:09] {hawkfan4} AKNS moving into the stratospheric category
[05:09] {Threei} what did propel SEED on Fri?
[05:10] {hawkfan4} can't remember
[05:10] {Threei} answer of a real trader
[05:10] {hawkfan4} :)
[05:10] {Threei} AKNS is solar eh
[05:10] {hawkfan4} yep
[05:11] {Threei} haven't seen it before vacation... new discovery or what
[05:11] {hawkfan4} yeah, got a contract and never looked back
[05:12] {Threei} yeah, breakwaya gap over 10
[05:13] {hawkfan4} well, i had AKNS from 6.50 to 7.25, that i do remember
[05:28] {Raven} Morn 3i ... how was San Diego ?
[05:29] {Threei} hi R :)
[05:29] {Threei} beautiful
[05:29] {Raven} yes ... 95% of the time
[05:29] {Threei} a bit too hot for my taste
[05:29] {Threei} but heck... much better than too cold :)
[05:29] {Raven} you'd get over that
[05:31] {Threei} 82 on Dec 31st feels a bit excessive though :)
[05:31] {Threei} SPIR WINS LARGEST SOLAR PV INSTALLATION FOR A MANUFACTURER IN CONNECTICUT
[05:33] {BillyD} morning all
[05:34] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:34] {BillyD} greattrip Vad?
[05:34] {Threei} fantastic
[05:34] {BillyD} :)
[05:34] {Threei} no single e-mail in 10 days? what could be better
[05:36] {BillyD} you have quotes Vad?
[05:36] {Threei} L2 yes
[05:36] {Threei} T&S no
[05:37] {BillyD} same here, thx
[05:38] {Threei} AKNS is knocking breakout doors
[05:38] {Threei} ESLR HEARING PRICE TARGET RAISED TO $30 FROM $20 AT THINK EQUITY; MAINTAINS BUY RATING
[05:42] {bruce} morning all
[05:42] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:42] {bruce} welcome back vadster
[05:42] {Threei} ty
[05:43] {Threei} {pretending starts} good to be back, I missed you all {pretending ends}
[05:45] {bruce} lol
[05:46] {bruce} last week was a huge green week for everyvody vad
[05:46] {bruce} made so much money we thought about taking this one off
[05:46] {Threei} cool beans
[05:46] {Threei} hope you do {G}
[05:46] {bruce} decided to log on so you wouldn't be lonely
[05:47] {Threei} I don't mind one more week of solitude
[05:47] {bruce} lol
[05:47] {bruce} back to the monestary?
[05:47] {Threei} as if I ever left
[05:48] {Threei} don't tell anyone but last two years I am trading from this wi-fi-equipped cave in Tibet...
[05:49] {Threei} intense navel-gazing goes well with trading
[05:49] {Threei} navel is not kine of course
[05:49] {Threei} mine
[05:49] {bruce} lol
[05:50] {bruce} does the buddha give trading tips?
[05:50] {Threei} don't know, my connections don't go that high
[05:52] {lumdus} good morning 3i. glad you are back
[05:52] {Threei} hi lum, thank you
[05:52] {bruce} hi lum
[05:55] {Threei} AKNS ticking
[05:56] {BillyD} AKNS has some nasty pullbacks Vad
[05:56] {Threei} yeah, I am sure
[05:56] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:59] {esemde} morning......welcome back Vad.....
[06:00] {Threei} hi ese, thank you :)
[06:03] {dptl} good morning all
[06:03] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:03] {Threei} dp, liranm :)
[06:04] {Threei} quotes are back Billy
[06:04] {BillyD} yes ty
[06:08] {cosmo} SEED pre mkt high = 10.90 fwiw
[06:10] {Threei} AKNS looks at 16 with curiosity
[06:12] {BillyD} trades like CSIQ...pullback type
[06:12] {Threei} ty, good to knoqw
[06:12] {BillyD} except fro the one time you don't take b/o lol
[06:12] {dino} gm all
[06:12] {BillyD} dino
[06:13] {Threei} dino :)
[06:13] {dino} :)
[06:14] {magoo} morning
[06:14] {Threei} magoo :)
[06:14] {magoo} HEY vad, how was trip?
[06:15] {Threei} the best time
[06:15] {BillyD} magoo
[06:15] {cosmo} did you go see the scrolls?
[06:15] {Threei} SD is great... California is great, heck, even Amtrak is great
[06:16] {BillyD} lol
[06:16] {Threei} scrolls?
[06:16] {cosmo} hmm...guess not...
[06:16] {Threei} unless I didn't know scrolls from killer whales
[06:17] {Threei} dcc cos
[06:17] {cosmo} yeah... in the dead sea
[06:17] {Threei} ah
[06:17] {Threei} saw the banner
[06:17] {Threei} didn't have time to go inside
[06:17] {Threei} too big city to cover everything in one visit :)
[06:17] {cosmo} good choice
[06:18] {Threei} add friends who hosted us and swore to keep feeding and enetrtaining us until we left or are dead, whichever comes first
[06:21] {cosmo} was it a rainy train ride?
[06:21] {cosmo} back home...
[06:21] {Threei} in Washington part only
[06:21] {Threei} Oregon was snowy
[06:21] {cosmo} ah
[06:21] {Threei} good thing I decided against car
[06:22] {Threei} would have stuck in Oregon mountain passes
[06:22] {cosmo} snow is good for spotting bigfoot
[06:22] {BillyD} yeah, and now maybe you can be an Amtrak Spokesman
[06:22] {Threei} except for fine dining part
[06:22] {BillyD} TV Dinners type food?
[06:23] {Threei} better than airline food... but still :)
[06:23] {cosmo} wide screen TV food
[06:24] {Threei} scenery is amazing though
[06:24] {BillyD} I bet
[06:26] {magoo} akns is avail short laserheads
[06:32] {Threei} SEED pullback into .30-.40 should be interesting
[06:32] {Threei} half lot
[06:33] {Threei} in .25
[06:33] {Threei} stop .09
[06:33] {BillyD} .26 here
[06:34] {Threei} no worky
[06:35] {magoo} fslr was down like 21 pts friday
[06:35] {magoo} a lot of rroom to recover
[06:39] {magoo} bounce time maybe akns
[06:40] {Roman} in ANKS
[06:40] {Roman} bounce 15.65 small
[06:40] {magoo} not in watching
[06:40] {Roman} out
[06:41] {magoo} good catch
[06:41] {Threei} nice scalp
[06:41] {Threei} .52 long half lot SEED
[06:41] {Threei} .29 stop
[06:42] {magoo} in
[06:42] {magoo} out lol
[06:42] {Threei} half out
[06:42] {magoo} THANX
[06:42] {Threei} welcome
[06:42] {cosmo} SEED pre mkt high = 10.90
[06:42] {BillyD} out thx
[06:43] {dptl} out ty
[06:43] {Threei} offering balance above 11
[06:43] {magoo} i don't believe i was in that 30 seconds
[06:43] {dino} nyx l .10 stop .79
[06:43] {Threei} good reflexes guys :)
[06:43] {magoo} billy and magoo are ultimate scalpers lol
[06:44] {Threei} Roman joins the club too I see :)
[06:44] {magoo} yeah, after last week wwe all got into the hit n run phyloshy
[06:45] {Threei} AKNS is still dizzy after what Roman did to it
[06:45] {BillyD} lol
[06:45] {esemde} long BMRN .00
[06:45] {Threei} let's do it SEED
[06:46] {Threei} out 11.15
[06:46] {BillyD} nice
[06:48] {dino} rimm falling
[06:50] {magoo} sheesh vads..u go away and haven't missed a beat
[06:51] {magoo} pretty awesome boss
[06:51] {Threei} we will see... day just started :)
[06:52] {BillyD} watching monkey
[06:52] {lumdus} no we confident 3i
[06:52] {magoo} spanking monkey?!?
[06:53] {Roman} CROX
[06:53] {Roman} losing 30
[06:53] {Threei} what's NOEC?
[06:53] {Threei} new name for me
[06:54] {BillyD} china co., chemical fertilizer business
[06:54] {Threei} ty
[06:55] {cosmo} no news
[06:56] {bruce} hway dino
[06:57] {Threei} SEED worth a try again
[06:57] {Threei} half lot
[06:58] {Threei} stop .35
[06:59] {esemde} out BMRN .17 +.17
[07:00] {Threei} :)
[07:02] {BillyD} out 3/4 SEED +.16
[07:02] {Threei} feel free to take profit who got SEED
[07:03] {magoo} akns interesting here
[07:05] {BillyD} it seems I am too soon on some of these pullbacks...it sometimes is taking me two times to get it
[07:05] {dino} rimm l .50
[07:05] {Threei} half lot long NOEC on .20 break
[07:05] {Threei} stop under 8
[07:05] {Threei} very risky one
[07:05] {magoo} runner?
[07:06] {Threei} yes Billy, this type usually pulls back father than it seems reasonable
[07:06] {Threei} feels this way mags
[07:06] {magoo} in vad
[07:07] {Threei} keep stop under 8 and let's see if we hooked a big one
[07:07] {dino} out rimm .94, +.44
[07:07] {Threei} it has potential
[07:07] {Threei} but as always, potential is balanced by bigger risk
[07:07] {Threei} 20 cents stop seems reasonable for this opportunity
[07:08] {magoo} ok
[07:09] {Threei} nice one dino
[07:10] {dino} thx\
[07:10] {Threei} SOLF severe selloff
[07:11] {Threei} CSIQ too
[07:11] {BillyD} all the flyers are selling
[07:11] {magoo} JASO too
[07:12] {Threei} no worky NOEC
[07:13] {BillyD} nope
[07:13] {magoo} yep
[07:13] {BillyD} mkt in same mode magoo
[07:14] {magoo} yeah..still nasty
[07:14] {lumdus} yup crap mode again.
[07:14] {magoo} look at AKNS too
[07:14] {BillyD} alot of knife catching
[07:15] {Threei} nice SEED dump
[07:16] {magoo} qqqq dump
[07:18] {BillyD} stops are your friends....NOEC
[07:18] {Threei} always
[07:20] {BillyD} getting some serious correction in overall mkt
[07:20] {BillyD} lately
[07:22] {magoo} bidu down 16
[07:22] {dino} ya think? lol
[07:22] {magoo} was down that friday too
[07:27] {Threei} SOLF small shares long .75
[07:28] {Threei} disregard, becomes a bounce play rather
[07:28] {esemde} short LIFC 40.16 half lot
[07:28] {magoo} u in solf here?
[07:28] {Threei} 32 long if gholding .80
[07:29] {Threei} .75 stop
[07:29] {Threei} 1:2
[07:29] {esemde} LIFC stop 40.30
[07:30] {Threei} nice one ese
[07:31] {esemde} tks
[07:31] {magoo} my lev 2 quotes bad..anyone elser?
[07:31] {BillyD} yeah, it did for a moment on SOLF
[07:33] {esemde} covered LIFC 39.90 +.25
[07:34] {Threei} don't look now
[07:34] {esemde} ya ...just saw it.....thats OK i'm trying to learn to short...this felt very weird for me
[07:35] {Threei} profit can't feel wierd...
[07:35] {Threei} :)
[07:35] {Threei} skipped second entry on SOLF, didn't feel right about it
[07:35] {Threei} too bad
[07:35] {esemde} it does when you short...for me anyways.....just have to get used to it
[07:40] {Threei} RIGL .50 long small shares
[07:41] {Threei} grrr... late alert
[07:41] {Threei} don't chase
[07:41] {magoo} well.i in it
[07:41] {Threei} let's see if we get pullback
[07:42] {Threei} what price?
[07:42] {magoo} .55
[07:42] {Threei} OK, stop under .30
[07:44] {Threei} 1:1
[07:44] {Threei} and over
[07:44] {magoo} out .91 THANX
[07:44] {Threei} feel free to take profit as you see fit
[07:44] {Threei} :)
[07:44] {magoo} better lucky than good
[07:45] {Threei} that was valid play, you got it just 5 cents above the trigger
[07:45] {Threei} which is nothing in terms of RIGL volatility
[07:46] {magoo} yeah..i rememembered how it traded
[07:46] {magoo} we played it before
[07:47] {BillyD} Vad, was RIGL more of a JBE for you
[07:48] {BillyD} I was away and now looking at chart
[07:48] {Threei} full buck up since alert
[07:48] {Threei} mix of JBE and volatility breakout and momo
[07:48] {BillyD} ok, mainly psycho feel...LOL
[07:48] {magoo} now i confused..did i make any $$ on it??
[07:48] {Threei} just psycho
[07:49] {Threei} work on your math mags...
[07:49] {Threei} as far as I know, .91 is more than .55
[07:49] {Threei} so you must have
[07:49] {magoo} good then:)
[07:49] {Threei} lol
[07:49] {Threei} you make me feel good mags...
[07:50] {Threei} my attempots to calculate profit on any given trade that is not in round numbers makes me want to sue my brain for non-support
[07:54] {Threei} CSIQ
[07:55] {Threei} small shares long, stop under .50
[07:55] {magoo} entry?
[07:55] {Threei} try to bid
[07:55] {Threei} as close to .50 as possible
[07:56] {Threei} tried .70, no luck
[07:56] {Threei} NQ downticking, may be can get it still
[07:57] {Threei} in .71
[07:57] {dptl} in.75
[07:57] {Threei} stop under .50
[07:58] {Threei} out
[07:58] {Threei} shakeout most likely but I am not taking chances today
[07:58] {BillyD} some of these are just nasty on the shakes
[08:02] {dptl} fcel?
[08:02] {Threei} not sure
[08:02] {Threei} not enough activity
[08:03] {dino} meli l .00
[08:05] {dino} gs sm l .50
[08:08] {dino} out meli .31 +.31
[08:14] {BillyD} not seeing anything solid out there, mostly anticipated guesses
[08:15] {magoo} csiq bnasrty rinse
[08:16] {Threei} MATK
[08:16] {Threei} half lot .90 long
[08:16] {Threei} stop under .75
[08:20] {dino} out gs .30, +.80
[08:20] {BillyD} nice dino
[08:21] {dino} ty
[08:28] {hawkfan4} i have to say Vad, not too shabby for 2 weeks away, great calls today :)
[08:28] {magoo} quote issues here..anyone else?
[08:28] {BillyD} ok here magoo
[08:29] {magoo} what server billy?
[08:29] {BillyD} 6
[08:29] {magoo} ok.hmmmmmmmmmm
[08:29] {magoo} no go
[08:31] {Threei} ty hawk
[08:31] {Threei} offering MATK above .20
[08:31] {Threei} out
[08:32] {Threei} where is my calculator...
[08:32] {magoo} vad what server u in?
[08:32] {Threei} +.29
[08:32] {Threei} 3
[08:32] {magoo} ty
[08:33] {dino} gs l .80
[08:34] {dino} 194.90
[08:34] {Threei} looked at ALTH at 6.80 break, didn't believe in it...
[08:35] {BillyD} well....I felt same about MATK to some degree
[08:35] {dino} man, i can't type 193.80 entry sorry
[08:35] {dino} distractions
[08:37] {Threei} JBHT .39 short if stays bel;ow .50
[08:38] {Threei} in
[08:38] {BillyD} in .38
[08:38] {esemde} bstop AMMD 14.80
[08:39] {dptl} in.38
[08:42] {Threei} stop to .44
[08:45] {dptl} stoped
[08:45] {BillyD} out -}07
[08:45] {Threei} yeah, NQ strength resumed
[08:50] {Threei} CACH?
[08:51] {Threei} APPROVES ADDITIONAL 1M SHARE BUYBACK
[08:51] {Threei} nevermind
[08:53] {Threei} GEOI... very thin one
[08:53] {Threei} breakout area on daily
[08:54] {Threei} sheesh, MATK is still moving
[09:02] {lumdus} jbht going ..
[09:04] {esemde} have a great day everyone....still long AMMD
[09:04] {Threei} take care ese :)
[09:05] {bruce} bye ese
[09:12] {Threei} ESRX half lot long if .75 getting hit
[09:12] {Threei} .64 stop
[09:12] {Threei} that big offer by INET is your indication
[09:13] {magoo} its my offer he he
[09:13] {magoo} in .75
[09:16] {dptl} stoped
[09:16] {Threei} not in the tune last couple hours
[09:16] {BillyD} my quotes sticking here
[09:16] {magoo} me too
[09:17] {Threei} good thing stops are tight
[09:17] {BillyD} today is frustrating
[09:18] {lumdus} billy D to say the least
[09:18] {bruce} got stopped out esrx
[09:19] {Threei} ever the optimists eh...
[09:20] {Threei} I add all the today'sd plays, still in the money
[09:20] {patience} down $100 on 2 trades. not my type of day so far.
[09:21] {magoo} im up 600
[09:21] {BillyD} Vad, that is providing one takes only yours and each and everyone of your plays
[09:21] {Threei} that's the only version of events I can take responsibility for Billy, no? :)
[09:22] {BillyD} I am not complaining about your plays :)
[09:22] {dino} up550
[09:22] {BillyD} you are trading what you see and read
[09:22] {magoo} vad had 3 good real ones
[09:22] {Threei} I know... I am just looking for a reason to unholster the trout, you know... :)
[09:22] {BillyD} roflol
[09:22] {magoo} TROUIT???
[09:22] {Threei} oops
[09:22] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[09:22] {Threei} did I wake up a monster
[09:22] {Threei} yes I did
[09:23] {dino} he's been called worse
[09:23] {Threei} lol
[09:23] {Threei} now ESRX goes
[09:24] {Threei} gotta keep wider stops but that's not what I am willing to do today
[09:24] {BillyD} that's the part of frusration Vad
[09:24] {lumdus} huge buy in esrx also
[09:25] {Threei} too much emotions billy... and too deep :)
[09:25] {BillyD} unfortunately, yes
[09:26] {magoo} vad..thats how its been while u were away
[09:26] {Threei} I mean... bad-tasting hotdog deserves spit and shrug... but not the red-hot hatred and sworn revenge, right?
[09:26] {BillyD} took all of 5minutes to publicly confess
[09:26] {magoo} rinsing and running
[09:26] {BillyD} roflol......proper pperspective
[09:26] {magoo} now im confused.{again}
[09:26] {dino} hmmm, never thought of the hotdog that way
[09:27] {Threei} of course you are mags, after all you are the guy who returns to the vendor's cart with 2x4 if don't like hotdog
[09:28] {magoo} lol
[09:31] {Threei} QID short
[09:31] {Threei} .41 stop
[09:31] {BillyD} here
[09:31] {Threei} , try to get it as close to .40 as possible
[09:31] {Threei} if no bounces, .29 then
[09:32] {lumdus} can't short the damm thing with mbt
[09:32] {BillyD} no short here
[09:32] {dino} out gs 195, +1.20
[09:32] {Threei} ugh
[09:32] {Threei} disregard
[09:32] {Threei} was available before my vacation
[09:34] {Threei} tried .43 double lot... :(
[09:35] {Threei} look at it dropping
[09:35] {Threei} where is laserdave
[09:35] {Threei} trouting him would be a great relief
[09:35] {dino} meli l .01
[09:37] {magoo} brb..gotta go beat up the hot dog venor outside..my buns soggy
[09:38] {bruce} wear a diaper mags
[09:39] {Threei} that's where I would have covered first lot QID
[09:39] {Threei} and try for closer to 42 for second
[09:41] {bruce} matk really moved
[09:42] {bruce} any read on it now - possible short now?
[09:43] {Threei} quiote possible
[09:44] {Threei} watching
[09:44] {Threei} 31.97 - 32.08 recent range
[09:44] {Threei} so how about .96 short with .10 stop
[09:44] {liranm} symble?
[09:44] {bruce} works for me
[09:45] {liranm} symbol?
[09:45] {bruce} matk liran
[09:45] {magoo} back
[09:45] {lumdus} qid could have been nice :(
[09:47] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:47] {Threei} that's for not having QID short
[09:47] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:47] {Threei} and that's just because
[09:48] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:48] {magoo} hey vad, dcc quick
[09:48] {Threei} magoo doesn't even bother to explain his trouting
[09:48] {Threei} I need to stop too
[09:50] {lumdus} market really moving during lunch time it seems
[09:51] {Threei} yeah... the only thing about market that never changes is a constant change
[09:51] {LaserDave1} no dont ever stop the trouting
[09:51] {lumdus} 3i, is it just my perception or is it true. seems like things are reallyumoving
[09:51] {LaserDave1} well stop to everyone else but not me
[09:52] * BillyD slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:52] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:52] {magoo} billy he he
[09:52] {LaserDave1} nice thannks guys
[09:52] {BillyD} dave was feeling unloved
[09:52] {Threei} well, NQ moved over 40 points since 10:30 bottom... so I'll say it's moving :)
[09:52] {LaserDave1} not no more:)
[09:52] {BillyD} :)
[09:53] {bruce} matk worth try if it breaks long?
[09:53] {Threei} don't have feel for long on it anymore
[09:53] {Threei} breakdown I'd take, breakout I'd ignore
[09:53] {bruce} k - makes sense to me
[09:54] {bruce} looking prety overextended
[09:54] {bruce} was talking w a german businessman last week vad
[09:54] {bruce} he made comment I thought you might find of interest
[09:54] {magoo} yes vad..its got a magoo patented flatliner
[09:55] {bruce} says russian mafia is BIG problem in germany now
[09:55] {Threei} I'd say Germany made a big mistake being so close to Russia geographically
[09:56] {bruce} lol
[09:56] {bruce} poor planning
[09:56] {Threei} yup
[09:56] {dino} out meli .62 +.61
[09:56] {Threei} gotta remap things
[09:57] {patience} nice dino
[09:57] {magoo} dammit..the hot dog vendor just showed up in office with a police
[09:57] {dino} ty, think i may be out of my rut
[10:00] {Threei} dino's having blast aftrenoon
[10:00] {Threei} what else is new though
[10:01] {magoo} sigh
[10:01] {magoo} no one gets my hot dog joke
[10:01] {Threei} we didn't think it was a joke mas
[10:01] {Threei} mags
[10:01] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:01] {patience} i got it magoo, in a manner of speaking
[10:01] {dino} negative 3 days in a row last week vad. really started to piss me off
[10:02] {Threei} happens
[10:02] {Threei} but when it comes to you, it corrects itself
[10:02] {Threei} just when it comes to magoo, noone thinks it's a joke when he goes and beats up hotdog vendor
[10:02] {magoo} patience..did u slap vad for me like i asked u too on friday?
[10:03] {Threei} hah
[10:03] {Threei} she did - with my own cat, no less
[10:03] {Threei} were you ever being slapped with a cat?
[10:03] {Threei} leaves deep sc ratches, I'm telling you
[10:04] {patience} i passed your message on magoo, vad just laughed at me
[10:04] {Threei} laughter quickly ceased though... claws are shrp
[10:05] {magoo} well, actually, wasn't a message..i wanted u to really smack him he he
[10:05] {Threei} MATK short invalidated
[10:06] {Threei} I still feel it's a short but can't find a structure for setup
[10:06] {bruce} biib long vad?
[10:06] {Threei} yes if stays above 58
[10:07] {Threei} best thing would be pullback to it
[10:07] {Threei} but if no pullback while NQ is drop;ping, break is valid on NQ bounce
[10:07] {bruce} k - thanx
[10:10] {Threei} if you took BIIB break, try to exit on a spike above .30
[10:11] {Threei} there
[10:12] {bruce} missed it - tryeed 58.10 entry
[10:26] {dino} sm l fslr .80
[10:31] {lumdus} nvda, going but no follow through. waste today
[10:38] {Threei} AKNS if breaks .50
[10:38] {Threei} long for a scalp
[10:39] {BillyD} see if she holds here
[10:39] {Threei} yes, under .35 not interested anymore
[10:42] {BillyD} stiil a go right
[10:43] {Threei} yes, held
[10:44] {Threei} invalidated
[10:52] {BillyD} AKNS still looks interesting
[10:52] {Threei} CSUN, I may get interested when it reaches 12
[10:52] {Threei} same setup billy
[10:52] {Threei} .50 break, .35 support
[10:53] {BillyD} yes
[10:53] {magoo} in
[10:55] {Threei} to eat through such an offer an not go after that??
[10:55] {magoo} man, it ate .50 like nothing
[10:55] {BillyD} how it trades though
[10:55] {magoo} u in
[10:55] {Threei} yes
[10:55] {BillyD} yes
[10:55] {dptl} me too
[10:56] {Threei} man... some stocks never met a toilet they couldn't overflow
[10:56] {BillyD} roflol
[10:56] {magoo} huh/
[10:56] {magoo} ?
[10:56] {Threei} now or never
[10:57] {lumdus} looks like never
[10:57] * Threei kicks AKNS in the rear with steel-toed heavy duty army boots
[10:57] {lumdus} ouch !
[10:57] {Threei} sorry... did I get you?
[10:59] {Threei} fiiiinally
[10:59] {Threei} vioence is the only thing that works
[10:59] {magoo} the price u pay lum lol
[10:59] {Threei} over 1:1, decide for yourself what to do
[10:59] {dptl} out .64
[10:59] {dptl} ty
[11:00] {Threei} welcome
[11:00] {magoo} out .66
[11:00] {Threei} hate it when the play is so obvious yet so labored
[11:00] {magoo} what is this 1:1 of which u speak??
[11:00] {BillyD} out here thx
[11:00] {lumdus} now the wekhands out we can goup :)
[11:00] {Threei} never mind mags, it's an old fetish of mine
[11:00] * BillyD slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[11:01] {Threei} I just like saying things like 1:1
[11:01] {BillyD} weak hands still can slap lum :)
[11:01] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[11:01] {Threei} or 3.14
[11:01] * magoo slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[11:01] {Threei} or 1/632
[11:01] {Threei} noone knows what they mean but they sound so scientifically
[11:01] {patience} moi magoo?
[11:03] {Threei} you guys slapped lum out of the room
[11:03] {magoo} seeing if u were awake:)
[11:03] {BillyD} lol
[11:04] {Threei} [14:02] -RealityTrader.chat.server- *** Notice -- Client exiting: lumdus (RealityTra@68.161.164.999) [Realitytrader.com]
[11:04] {magoo} ROFLOL vad
[11:04] {BillyD} it was magoo's follow up power slap
[11:05] {Threei} see, my violence is carefully aimed and prfitable
[11:05] {BillyD} wait a minute....you did kick him first
[11:05] {magoo} true
[11:05] {Threei} nah, he just reflected on AKNS
[11:05] {Threei} showed sympathy so to speak
[11:07] {lumdus} yeah, my machine crashed. what the heck happend. you guys are violent :)
[11:07] {BillyD} glad you are back
[11:07] {dptl} lol
[11:09] {lumdus} billD you hit me and bang !
[11:10] {BillyD} magoo got ya to
[11:10] {BillyD} maggo must have got ya on way down
[11:11] {dino} lol
[11:11] {Threei} you out AKNS lum?
[11:12] {lumdus} yes,
[11:12] {Threei} whew
[11:12] {lumdus} .68 i got
[11:12] {Threei} machine crash while in trade... yechh
[11:12] {magoo} vad, AKNS is avail short
[11:12] {Threei} great exit
[11:12] {lumdus} i had the trailing stop thing going .03 trailing
[11:12] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[11:12] {magoo} i got .66
[11:12] {magoo} hit him billy
[11:13] * BillyD slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[11:14] {magoo} man, its nice having vad back..its like...alls correct in magoo world again
[11:14] {lumdus} Noooo... my machine will crash again. 3i, take care of these gusy
[11:14] {magoo} rapid volley billy on 3..lets knock him out
[11:14] {Threei} sorry lum, no can do... all these years I tried and failed miserably
[11:14] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[11:14] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[11:14] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[11:15] {Threei} my tactic is to cral under the rock
[11:15] {Threei} crawl
[11:15] {Threei} and wait trout barrage out
[11:15] {lumdus} crawl ?
[11:16] {magoo} u can run vad, but u can't hide
[11:16] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:16] {Threei} sigh
[11:16] {Threei} I don't know what you guys did while I was away
[11:17] {Threei} laserdave, dcc please
[11:17] {Threei} oh, and to reinforce the request...
[11:17] {dino} meli l .29
[11:17] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:17] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:18] {magoo} anyone slap the new guy yet?
[11:18] {Threei} I am going away
[11:18] {Threei} I can't watch it
[11:18] {Threei} be back in 5
[11:27] {dino} out meli -.29
[11:33] {dino} rinsed
[11:35] {Threei} can't believe MATK
[11:38] {magoo} AKNS again
[11:40] {Threei} it tries to stage this often-seen "late day rally on a big runner"
[11:40] {Threei} I don't have a read on it here
[11:40] {BillyD} keyword...tries
[11:41] {magoo} watching SOLF as a bouncer too
[11:43] {Threei} solars took solid beating today
[11:44] {BillyD} hopefully some rebound opportunities tomorrow
[11:44] {BillyD} they kept getting hit while down on the matt today
[11:49] {lumdus} billyD my luck was not too good today either. everything i scalped when up huge and everything i didn't scalp i got stopped out.
[11:50] {BillyD} lum, always tomorrow...some dauys like that....part of the game
[11:50] {lumdus} yeah, i know
[11:54] {BillyD} MATK....in its own world
[11:54] {Threei} where there is no gravity
[11:54] {lumdus} we thinking short yet ?
[11:54] {Threei} I always suspected gravity was ahoax anyway
[11:54] {Threei} not really
[11:55] {Threei} last short setup on it never triggered
[11:55] {Threei} it tries to form double top right now
[11:55] {Threei} but with resistance .15 and trigger .95, not sure
[11:57] {Threei} it would be acceptable range if it wasn't so thin with .10 spread
[12:00] {Threei} see? invalidated, never triggered
[12:00] {Threei} no gravity for MATK
[12:01] {bruce} why not close eyes and just press buy on matk vad?
[12:02] {Threei} ummmm
[12:02] {Threei} because when you feel this is the only way to play it and go for it... that's when it ends :)
[12:03] {bruce} matk thinks its 1992 again
[12:03] {BillyD} ROFLOL
[12:14] {Threei} NIHD, watching for bounce scalp
[12:14] {Threei} 51.08 half lot long stop under 51
[12:15] {Threei} purely risk based setup
[12:15] {Threei} if loses 51 before triggering, wait for close to 50.50 for another entry chance
[12:19] {magoo} u in?
[12:19] {Threei} yes
[12:19] {Threei} such confident chewing through big offer at .04, I don't ignore this kind of things
[12:21] {Threei} 1:1
[12:21] {dptl} offering .43
[12:21] {Threei} wow
[12:21] {Threei} some are greedy
[12:21] {dptl} lol
[12:21] {BillyD} i took 1:1 thx Vad
[12:21] {Threei} and I am right in the middle of you two
[12:21] {Threei} half out
[12:22] {dptl} out.20
[12:22] {Threei} hmmm
[12:22] {Threei} I lose faith in humanity
[12:22] {Threei} are you greedy or are you not?
[12:22] {Threei} you are confusing me
[12:23] {dptl} change my mind
[12:23] {BillyD} fear of loss greed
[12:23] {Threei} half is still here for me, stop at .03
[12:25] * Threei crosses dptl out of the list of greedy ones and moves him to the list of mind-changers
[12:25] {dptl} :)
[12:27] {Threei} magmeister, you took it?
[12:27] {Threei} out balance
[12:27] {Threei} scalpers win
[12:27] {Threei} again
[12:28] {dptl} good i changed my mind
[12:28] {magoo} missed entry
[12:29] {BillyD} you're a 1/2 winner Vad
[12:29] {Threei} ok, don't go for it on this return
[12:29] {Threei} lol billy
[12:29] {Threei} let's see if it forms new setup, no entry on price alone
[12:30] {Threei} wow AKNS
[12:30] {Threei} that's some retreat
[12:30] {Threei} good thing we didn't believe in late rally on it
[12:31] {lumdus} yeah, we are all short termers
[12:32] {Threei} on this planet you mean?
[12:32] {Threei} come on, don't gop all philosophical on us
[12:33] {BillyD} [13:02] {Threei} because when you feel this is the only way to play it and go for it... that's when it ends :)
[12:33] {BillyD} some philosophy there
[12:33] {Threei} oh, that's simple tape reading... :)
[12:34] {BillyD} or sense of hopelessness and not want accountability
[12:34] {Threei} crowd gives up to temptation, believing that there is no end to the move...
[12:34] {Threei} and that's the last crop of buyres
[12:34] {Threei} after that there is noone left to buy
[12:35] {BillyD} [13:01] {bruce} why not close eyes and just press buy on matk vad?
[12:36] {Threei} I actually had another version of answer in mind
[12:36] {BillyD} the whole scanario is just applicale to something in the Disciplined Trader
[12:36] {Threei} but then decided it would be too rude for my first after vacation day, gotta let you get used to my antics gradually
[12:36] {Threei} that version was "sure... you first"
[12:37] {Threei} but guess what
[12:37] {BillyD} don't flatter youself.....we know you and it's too late
[12:37] {Threei} bruce was right {G}
[12:37] {Threei} lol
[12:37] {BillyD} yes, random sometimes is
[12:37] {Threei} I like to think people still have some delusions about my manners...
[12:38] {BillyD} not that bruce is random
[12:39] {Threei} gosh, we playd MATK around 31
[12:39] {BillyD} yup, if we'd just listened to bruce
[12:39] {magoo} AKNS was a giood short
[12:39] {Threei} 30.95 - 31.24 for me
[12:39] {magoo} i mentionred it several times
[12:40] {Threei} sure did mags
[12:40] {Threei} I never found the guts
[12:40] {magoo} i just hit loss of 14..covered .69
[12:40] {Threei} wtg
[12:40] {BillyD} at .35 I wouldn't hit it
[12:40] {BillyD} nice mags
[12:40] {magoo} but it is risky of course
[12:41] {Threei} NIHD approaches 50.5
[12:41] {Threei} watching
[12:41] {Threei} oh, less than 20 min till eod
[12:41] {Threei} maybe not
[12:44] {Threei} funny day... wasn't easy for neither shorts or longs
[12:44] {Threei} scalpers win
[12:44] {bruce} nice drop nvda
[12:44] {Threei} (again)
[12:44] {Threei} don't you hate them
[12:44] {Threei} wait... it's us
[12:45] {bruce} pogo said - we have seen the enemy...
[12:45] {Threei} :)
[12:45] {BillyD} lol
[12:46] {BillyD} and the enemy is within
[12:47] {dino} l jaso .80
[12:49] {magoo} hey vad, this has been the mkt tone while u were away, scalps
[12:49] {Threei} fine... let's roll with the punches then
[12:49] {magoo} just to bring u to speed, many days of this
[12:49] {Threei} it's not like we don't know how to scalp :)
[12:49] {Threei} in fact, it's practically all we know, lol
[12:49] {magoo} where can i read up on scalping?
[12:49] {Threei} lol
[12:49] {Threei} really
[12:50] {Threei} hmmm
[12:50] {magoo} NO
[12:50] {Threei} what just happened with NQ?
[12:50] {BillyD} think there is a blog or something
[12:50] {dino} jaso stop to .40
[12:50] {magoo} holy cow..didn't even see that
[12:51] {Threei} market says "read this"
[12:51] {dino} out jaso .50, +.70
[12:52] {Threei} look at FSLR bounce
[12:52] {dino} thats why i took jaso
[12:52] {Threei} 12 points as if it was 15 cents
[12:52] {Threei} good thinking dino
[12:52] {magoo} bidu too
[12:53] {dino} even a blind chicken can get some corn
[12:53] {BillyD} lol
[12:53] {BillyD} good one
[12:54] {dino} spwr maybe
[12:54] {Threei} show me one who claims he could read today's intraday NQ moves and I'll show you a liar
[12:55] {dino} l .80
[12:55] {dino} no good stopped
[12:55] {lumdus} 3i, ok, here you go 3i. Jack Hanzersjer fro Ftdy trading.
[12:56] {dino} calling it a day, first profittable in '08
[12:56] {magoo} i could
[12:56] {Threei} I'll take credit for that if you don't mind dino
[12:56] {Threei} my return inspired you
[12:56] {dino} roflol
[12:56] {magoo} u calling me a liar lol?
[12:56] {lumdus} ok, and today is my first lost. you take credit for that 3i ? . just lost comm.
[12:57] {Threei} nope
[12:57] {magoo} u pushing your luck lum
[12:57] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[12:57] {dino} biib
[12:57] {lumdus} no biggie. first day was awesome. good for a month.
[12:58] {Threei} ok guys, thank you all
[12:58] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:58] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[12:58] {magoo} when u coming back vad?
[12:59] {Threei} couple more undeserved trouts, and never :)
[12:59] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:59] {bruce} need to keep you humble vad
[12:59] {Threei} but I am humbliest man on earth
[12:59] {dptl} have a good evening all
[12:59] {Threei} noone is as modest as I am
[13:00] {bruce} {Threei} I'll take credit for that if you don't mind dino
[13:00] {bruce} you bet
[13:01] {dino} thx
[13:01] {bruce} congrats dino
[13:01] {bruce} green today too
[13:01] {bruce} still in red for month though
[13:01] {dino} great job, strange moves, but did well
[13:01] {BillyD} it's early bruce :)
[13:01] {BillyD} wtg dino
[13:02] {BillyD} down a little here
[13:02] {bruce} is it unusual for you to have 3 red days in row dino?
[13:02] {dino} we'll get there bruce, thx bd
[13:02] {dino} yes, usually only 3 or 4/month red
[13:02] {bruce} yep - counting on it - going to be a good yr
[13:02] {bruce} k- thought so
[13:03] {bruce} I only had 2 red days in dec
[13:03] {bruce} but already beat did that this month
[13:03] {bruce} so time to turn it around
[13:03] {dino} holidays and a bad cold screwed me up i think, but then again, no excuses
[13:03] {bruce} night all
[13:03] {bruce} see everyone tomorrow
[13:03] {BillyD} bye all
[13:12] {magoo} dave, u here?

Friday, January 4, 2008

January 4, 2008

Session Start: Fri Jan 04 00:00:00 2008

Session Time: Fri Jan 04 00:00:00 2008

[06:03] {lumdus} morning all. when is our leader comming back ?
[06:05] {bruce} morning lum
[06:06] {bruce} no idea
[06:06] {cosmo} 2012?
[06:07] {bruce} he,s probably in nigeria as we speak
[06:08] {cosmo} quetzalcoatl?
[06:09] {bruce} timbuktu
[06:10] {BillyD} morning all
[06:10] {BillyD} lum, I think mon or tues
[06:10] {bruce} morning billy
[06:10] {lumdus} tx billD
[06:11] {magoo} morning rt
[06:11] {BillyD} magoo :)
[06:11] {patience} morning guys
[06:11] {lumdus} maggo
[06:11] {BillyD} patience :)
[06:12] {bruce} hi patience
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[06:16] {bruce} now you can trade with reckless abandon
[06:16] {bruce} realizing that with the direct edge you have no clue what a stock isdoing!
[06:17] {bruce} catchy don't you think?
[06:17] {cosmo} it must be double edged...
[06:18] {esemde} morning all...
[06:18] {BillyD} ese:)
[06:19] {esemde} billy
[06:19] {BillyD} solars not in favor so far
[06:19] {dino} gm all
[06:19] {BillyD} :)
[06:19] {esemde} yes.....noticed that
[06:19] {esemde} dino
[06:19] {BillyD} AKNS holding up the best so far
[06:19] {esemde} any particular reason?
[06:20] {BillyD} busineek mention I believe
[06:20] {BillyD} it's on yahoo
[06:20] {BillyD} businessweek
[06:28] {BillyD} gonna be patient today
[06:28] {magoo} do not fight the mkt today imho..as in..if downm is thge day..think short
[06:29] {magoo} we need to see if breakouts fail..
[06:29] {BillyD} thye did yesterday
[06:29] {BillyD} for the most part
[06:29] {magoo} yes
[06:29] {esemde} excellent point magoo....
[06:29] {lumdus} so let's all post what we are doing - so we watch each others back .. good idea ?
[06:33] {dino} fxp
[06:34] {lumdus} can't get level II on fxp
[06:35] {dino} didn't fill
[06:35] {magoo} i was rejected on buy of fxp, billy, see if u can put a buy in on it..just where it will not fill
[06:36] {BillyD} nope
[06:36] {BillyD} won't wokr
[06:36] {BillyD} work
[06:36] {magoo} nope, u will not try lol..or no to avail to buy?
[06:37] {BillyD} lol...says invalid symbol
[06:37] {magoo} ok, ty..its w/bear than
[06:38] {Roman} long HSOA small
[06:38] {Roman} 1.25
[06:39] {bruce} arca delayed this am
[06:40] {dino} sigm l .65
[06:41] {dino} nyx l .25
[06:41] {Roman} DSTI
[06:41] {Roman} long 6.5
[06:41] {Roman} 1/3 size
[06:43] {Roman} CSIQ possible bouncer from here
[06:43] {bruce} dsti stop about 6.30 roman?
[06:44] {Roman} 6.28
[06:47] {Roman} ANKS radar
[06:47] {esemde} akns....theres one break that didn't fail
[06:48] {esemde} .66 level
[06:50] {magoo} careful
[06:51] {dino} out nyx .65, +.40
[06:52] {Roman} HOKU srtong
[06:54] {Roman} long MGPI 9.87 small
[06:55] {BillyD} in CTDC .10 small
[06:56] {bruce} mgpi stop?
[06:57] {Roman} it's super thin
[06:57] {Roman} so a stop would be 9.55
[06:57] {bruce} k
[06:58] {BillyD} out ctdc -.03
[07:00] {Roman} ECONX ISM Services 53.9 vs 53.5 consensus
[07:03] {Roman} out DSTI +.30
[07:03] {Roman} out MGPI
[07:03] {BillyD} PEIX has life
[07:03] {Roman} MGPI should following PEIX
[07:04] {Roman} NQ is freaking me out
[07:04] {magoo} loooks weak
[07:04] {magoo} nice dsti
[07:05] {Roman} probably not done, will spike over 7
[07:05] {Roman} XMSR
[07:05] {Roman} feels long
[07:06] {Roman} HSOA -.11
[07:07] {Roman} HOKU just sqeezing
[07:08] {magoo} i have no success w/HOKU tho
[07:09] {lumdus} same here magoo. had it and washe me quickly
[07:09] {dino} fast trades, sorry for not posting
[07:09] {magoo} well, size down lum if u feel u have good read on general direction
[07:09] {BillyD} HOKU: sometimes it continues and sometimes if not taking profit it quickly offers a stop
[07:09] {magoo} as in..400 shares or 300
[07:10] {magoo} my prob is..i never notice it until its already up good..then i go for next breakout and it f's meb
[07:10] {BillyD} very true
[07:11] {lumdus} yeah make sense
[07:11] {BillyD} SEED hot today
[07:12] {Roman} long JADE
[07:14] {cosmo} EMKR gets CNBC bump
[07:14] {cosmo} ...as a solar co.
[07:15] {Roman} ENER mentioned tooo
[07:15] {cosmo} watching
[07:16] {Roman} NFF
[07:16] {Roman} NBF
[07:17] {Roman} in 2.90
[07:17] {magoo} nothing comes up w/nbf otr nff
[07:18] {Roman} JADE stop 4.30
[07:18] {Roman} NBF
[07:18] {Roman} Nove Biosource
[07:18] {Roman} Nova
[07:18] {BillyD} does here magoo
[07:19] {magoo} not for me, it it amex or bulletin board?
[07:19] {BillyD} amex
[07:19] {magoo} ok
[07:19] {Roman} it was mentioned on CNBC
[07:20] {esemde} serious NAZ breakdoen today.... below support
[07:21] {esemde} sorry not quite ...about 2550 would be it
[07:24] {dino} \]fxp l .85
[07:25] {Roman} out NBF flat
[07:31] {dino} out fxp flat
[07:34] {dino} tbsi l .35
[07:47] {magoo} vads timing was great
[07:47] {magoo} took the right days off
[07:47] {magoo} this is one mean mkt
[07:47] {magoo} both ways
[07:48] {BillyD} yeah, have tried aggressive plays and traditional and seemed to get stoppoed more often
[07:50] {esemde} agreed billy.....can't seem to find anything on my side as well
[08:03] {dino} dow down 4.4% in 5 days
[08:04] {dino} comp worse, 6%
[08:04] {magoo} down 75 naz..pretty big hit
[08:06] {BillyD} Happy New Year...lol
[08:07] {magoo} some day i am going to trust my overall read
[08:07] {BillyD} roflol
[08:07] {magoo} i shorted 200 shares of bidu from 370 and covered 366
[08:07] {magoo} BUT, i really felt it was going to lows
[08:07] {magoo} need to buy 100 shares and just let it go
[08:08] {magoo} gave up 7 points
[08:08] {BillyD} do it next time if same feeling
[08:08] {bruce} sds strong today
[08:09] {BillyD} I start thining lock in profit....and I ended up exiting 2nd half as well
[08:09] {BillyD} and stock continues to where I thought
[08:10] {magoo} yeah..thats the problem
[08:11] {magoo} if reverses hard and stops u first..u pissed you gave up the 4 pts
[08:11] {magoo} do not know the answer
[08:11] {BillyD} well...I think answer is accepting the outcome no matter what happens
[08:12] {BillyD} I think once we trust ourselves more the ones to exit and the ones to hold will become more clear
[08:17] {lumdus} very tough out there today. i am so flaat
[08:19] {magoo} u are fat??
[08:20] {bruce} don't be rude mags
[08:20] {lumdus} just a little profit
[08:20] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:20] {magoo} how about a slap for that bruce lol?
[08:20] {magoo} he he
[08:20] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:20] {magoo} as typed
[08:20] {bruce} k
[08:20] {bruce} thers another
[08:23] {BillyD} I like the way SEED holds
[08:27] {BillyD} kiss of death lol
[08:29] {magoo} akns held well
[08:35] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:36] {magoo} hey bud:)
[08:36] {bruce} market reverszl here or getting ready for next leg down?
[08:36] {Chaeron} :) good to see everyone, except most are missing
[08:36] {BillyD} we'll see bruce
[08:37] {BillyD} hard to say
[08:37] {bruce} lol chaeron
[08:38] {Chaeron} they're all slackers
[08:38] {bruce} nothing wrong with that
[08:38] {bruce} would love to be a good trader - make great money
[08:38] {bruce} and take lots of days off
[08:38] {dptl} good morning all
[08:38] {bruce} hey dp
[08:42] {magoo} shit bruce..i thought u were..i been taking all your picks
[08:42] {magoo} dp:)
[08:42] {bruce} christ
[08:42] {bruce} I've been taking yours
[08:43] {lumdus} yeah bruce i though you the best
[08:43] {bruce} well thanx lum
[08:43] {bruce} I try to add some entertainment factor to the room at any ratte
[08:45] {bruce} nvda long off .6?
[08:46] {BillyD} I would wait for a mkt spike of some sort
[08:46] {BillyD} imo
[08:46] {magoo} if qqqq heads up..i like 100 shares bidu long..tends to follow naz/qqqq
[08:47] {magoo} give it point half stop and try to lay out 2-3 points
[08:47] {magoo} needs mkt help tho
[08:47] {magoo} and u must obey the stop
[08:49] {magoo} may noit develope
[08:49] {magoo} qqq could roll here
[08:49] {bruce} yep - starting to look like we may have serious red day today
[08:51] {dino} bounce coming into lunch imo
[08:55] {bruce} taking a break here
[08:55] {bruce} check refrig for something to bounce
[08:56] {dino} sgr l trig .00
[09:19] {dino} out sgr .13, +.13
[09:20] {dino} stupid, had .55
[09:22] {Roman} JADE getting ready for $5
[09:22] {dino} holx
[09:25] {esemde} what are you thinking about doing with it dino?
[09:25] {esemde} shorting
[09:29] {dino} y
[09:30] {dino} at ,99
[09:30] {esemde} tks..
[09:31] {esemde} I may join you....i have to learn to short....i don't do much of it
[09:32] {dino} stop is hod
[09:32] {dino} stopped
[09:32] {dino} strong
[09:33] {dino} rinsed
[09:38] {Roman} out JADE +48
[09:39] {Roman} .38
[09:40] {esemde} HOLX strong indeed dino
[09:42] {dino} argn l .50
[09:49] {Roman} in HAUP swing (swing) small
[09:49] {Roman} risky
[09:50] {bruce} argn stop .15 or so dino?
[09:56] {dino} .23 for me
[09:56] {bruce} k
[10:03] {dino} stopped, i pretty much suck today
[10:03] {dino} back in 10
[10:04] {bruce} I can't make reversla plays work so far this yr dino
[10:04] {lumdus} there is no follow through on anything yet .. NVDA triggererd and then bounce - what the heck !
[10:04] {bruce} sorry lum
[10:04] {dino} same problem bruce, and unfortunately, thats my thing
[10:05] {bruce} may be better next week w volume picking up dino
[10:05] {bruce} hope so
[10:05] {BillyD} it seems pullbacks into areas of good support is best odds
[10:05] {BillyD} and you can't be too early it seems
[10:07] {BillyD} overall it is a mixed bag in some working and some not
[10:07] {lumdus} quick scalps only .10 max
[10:07] {BillyD} yes lum
[10:08] {BillyD} then ones goes .40 and throws you off ...lol
[10:09] {bruce} or you exited and kick yourself
[10:09] {BillyD} exactly bruce
[10:10] {lumdus} exactly hat's happening to me today. frustrating.
[10:10] {bruce} the 10 cs add up if you can avoid to o many stops
[10:13] {magoo} magoo wacks head on keyboard..wakes up..what i miss??
[10:16] {dino} nothing magoo, go back to sleep
[10:17] {bruce} just broken keyboard mags
[10:17] {bruce} possible scalp brcm
[10:18] {lumdus} magoo, nothing but stops today. crazy
[10:18] {bruce} .20 w .09 stop
[10:28] {magoo} see, i lucked out..went 2 for 2...and do not want to give it back..this market blows imho
[10:28] {magoo} only did 2 trades
[10:29] {lumdus} good for you magoo. should have also done that. i blew my profit and now down
[10:29] {lumdus} i wait for the setups take them and they blow
[10:29] {lumdus} had a few good ones
[10:30] {bruce} sounds like you did well yesterday lum?
[10:30] {lumdus} yes, yesterday was awesome
[10:30] {lumdus} today i can't get it together yet
[10:30] {lumdus} i shorted brcm, the damm thing wont move
[10:31] {dino} sgr l .55
[10:38] {esemde} dammmmm....BMRN bouth the break.....and now!!!!!!!!
[10:39] {lumdus} dammn brcm not moving yet
[10:39] {esemde} out ....forget it man......this day &^%*&% ...
[10:40] {lumdus} you said it ese
[10:40] {esemde} bull trap....i believe they call it
[10:40] {magoo} lows of day here
[10:41] {magoo} can't imagine people wanting to run it up into a weekend, with end of world and all coming
[10:41] {lumdus} breaks, reverse.. not much good follow throuh yet
[10:42] {esemde} end of the world........????
[10:43] {lumdus} you missed it essse
[10:43] {esemde} phewwwww
[10:47] {dino} shorts may decide to cover, and pop it up
[10:47] {dino} bear markets shorts cover friday....bull markets long sell fridays was how we used to play
[10:48] {dino} but then again.......
[10:48] {lumdus} rules are chaning it seems.
[11:01] {dino} rgen drop
[11:11] {lumdus} finally damm aapl
[11:38] {magoo} .
[11:38] {magoo} lll
[11:38] {lumdus} llll ?
[11:39] {lumdus} magoo you have the good overall pic for the market you called it great !
[11:40] {dino} lod's
[11:41] {dino} going for -300 dow
[11:47] {patience} what a day...7 trades, $10 profit...shake my head and bang it against the table
[11:47] {BillyD} roflol
[11:48] {BillyD} pretty much same thing here patience
[11:48] {patience} i get into a trade and it goes to sleep
[11:49] {bruce} smart patience
[11:49] {bruce} beats wrecking a keyboard like mags
[11:49] {BillyD} I amshort DSTI at .53 and while mkt is selling it won't go down
[11:50] {patience} i'm waiting for the last 15 minutes of the day to see if there are indications for next week, otherwise I'm just sitting and doing nothing
[11:53] {lumdus} thatt's why you called patience
[11:54] {dino} pretty brutal week
[11:55] {dino} comp -3.75% in a day
[11:58] {dino} c'mon run it up 100 into the close
[12:02] {bruce} now mags -
[12:02] {bruce} if you'd just shorted market on open
[12:02] {Chaeron} if...
[12:02] {bruce} and gone to sleep for rest of day!
[12:02] {dino} brb
[12:04] {patience} only money i made was on sds which you mentioned earlier bruce
[12:10] {magoo} i know whats wrong
[12:10] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * magoo slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * magoo slaps BillyD around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * magoo slaps Roman around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] * magoo slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] * magoo slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] * magoo slaps esemde around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] * magoo slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] * magoo slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] {magoo} THERE!
[12:11] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:11] {magoo} HEY..whats that for /??
[12:12] {BillyD} dunno what happened.......finger hit mouse before I knew what happened....must be intiition
[12:12] {BillyD} intuition
[12:19] {dino} dptr
[12:19] {BillyD} yeah, I wouldn't take the 22.50 b/o cause it jumped from 22
[12:20] {BillyD} mkt can make you feel stupid if you let it
[12:20] {dino} ok
[12:20] {esemde} grrrrr it's a revenge trade grrrr.........long BMRN...57
[12:20] {esemde} dino style......waited for the bounce
[12:22] {esemde} lost -.21 that first time.......we'll see what happens this time
[12:22] {dino} gl]
[12:23] {esemde} OUt .76 +.
[12:23] {esemde} opps +.17
[12:24] {patience} nice to see it worked ese....
[12:24] {esemde} tks.....just barely
[12:25] {esemde} still.03 short....grrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:26] {esemde} hmmmm 21 - 17 =4 hmmm bad math.....make that 4 cents short
[12:26] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:27] {bruce} sorry for keeping you waiting mags
[12:27] {dino} gj
[12:27] {esemde} man now that was out of nowhere....
[12:28] {esemde} anyway......you all have a great weekend.....see ya monday
[12:28] {patience} when does school start up ese?
[12:28] {esemde} Monday.....
[12:29] {patience} party this weekend then :)
[12:29] {esemde} back to earning a living.....will rethink the party thing though
[12:29] {bruce} take care ese
[12:29] {esemde} bye bruce
[12:30] {BillyD} something up with SEED
[12:33] {dino} later ese
[12:39] {bruce} akns
[12:40] {BillyD} looks like superman bruce
[12:43] {bruce} a bit of market euphoria
[12:44] {bruce} solf too
[12:47] {dino} not fslr tho
[12:47] {bruce} no
[12:47] {bruce} lots of red dino
[12:47] {bruce} not much recovery in the q's or dow
[12:47] {patience} i'm sitting in cash....thinking there will be margin calls next week if no surprise fed rate cut
[12:48] {dino} i'm thinking big bounce, then drop
[12:48] {bruce} at least it's been the best week of the year so far
[12:49] {patience} vad will be at my house within the our for his cat....i look forward to him being back on Monday. Should be interesting next week,
[12:49] {bruce} sure looks that way dino
[12:50] {bruce} bre sure to tell him he missed spectacular week patience
[12:50] {patience} definitely because he is going to brag about how hot it was in san diego
[12:51] {dino} added a few swings today, may be wrong, will dump on a bounce
[12:51] {dptl} :)
[12:51] {magoo} slap vad for magoo patience
[12:51] {patience} right, i'm sure Mrs. Vad will be impressed with me magoo
[12:51] {bruce} who cares abvout sun when you can have funb getting worked over by market?
[12:52] {magoo} close at lows it seems
[12:52] {dptl} poor nasdaq
[12:53] {magoo} look just remember..we as a group here don't care which way it goes
[12:54] {magoo} next week, no preconcieved ideas
[12:54] {magoo} if down..we short..if up we look for bounces
[12:54] {BillyD} well said magoo
[12:54] {bruce} thats for you to say mags
[12:54] {bruce} me -
[12:54] {bruce} I'm planning on making money
[12:54] {magoo} so am i
[12:54] {bruce} lol
[12:55] {magoo} but if more pain..we'll think short
[12:55] {bruce} yep
[12:55] {bruce} I like short anyway
[12:55] {magoo} christ...i was watching FSLR when it was only down 7
[12:55] {magoo} asa short
[12:55] {magoo} got interrupted here..look down 21
[12:56] {magoo} old friend stopped in office
[12:56] {magoo} lost my focus
[12:56] {magoo} anywho
[12:56] {bruce} today was a trend
[12:56] {bruce} look at fdx
[12:56] {bruce} nice clean chart
[12:56] {magoo} there could be more downside..or there could be a bounce
[12:56] {bruce} down then up
[12:57] {magoo} who cares..we just need to identify the mkt tone monday
[12:57] {BillyD} roflol
[12:57] {magoo} getting a brew..anyone else want one while i'm uop?
[12:57] {bruce} sure
[12:57] {dptl} me
[12:57] {bruce} pass em over
[12:58] {patience} might as well make it a couple for me magoo,,,,thanks
[12:58] {magoo} that-a-girl patience
[12:58] {bruce} next week will be better dino
[12:58] {BillyD} some serious volatility lately on certain stocks
[12:59] {bruce} green today but couldn't make reversals work at all this week
[12:59] {dino} thx for the beer magoo
[12:59] {BillyD} have a good wknd all
[13:00] {bruce} same to you billy
[13:00] {dptl} take care all ,have a good weekend
[13:00] {BillyD} bruce, no going to a psychic to see what mkt gonna do next week
[13:00] {BillyD} couldn't resist bruce :)
[13:01] {bruce} why go to a psychic?
[13:01] {bruce} more fun to just trout magooo
[13:01] {BillyD} lol
[13:01] {magoo} c u guys monday, and gal:)
[13:02] {bruce} yeppers
[13:02] {patience} have a good weekend guys
[13:02] {bruce} going open some of that good canadian beer here mags
[13:02] {bruce} bye all
[13:17] {dino} gn all
Session Close: Sat Jan 05 00:00:00 2008

Thursday, January 3, 2008

January 3, 2008

Session Start: Thu Jan 03 00:00:00 2008

Session Time: Thu Jan 03 00:00:00 2008

[05:58] {dino} gm all
[05:59] {patience} morning guys
[06:01] {dptl} good morning all
[06:06] {magoo} morning
[06:10] {BillyD} morning
[06:11] {magoo} solf
[06:11] {BillyD} yup
[06:12] {BillyD} CSUN looks poised
[06:13] {BillyD} tricky one
[06:13] {magoo} 40 magnate on SOLF..may pullbk at open..
[06:21] {cosmo} SCRX: Sciele says FDA approves new formulation of blood-pressure drug
[06:21] {cosmo} at Reuters (Wed 6:37pm)
[06:22] {cosmo} 23.70 pre mkt high
[06:24] {cosmo} KONG
[06:25] {cosmo} KongZhong Corporation Announces Strategic Alliance Agreement with China Sports Industry Group Co., Ltd.
[06:25] {cosmo} PR Newswire (Thu 8:00am)
[06:31] {Roman} CTDC
[06:31] {Roman} radar
[06:33] {bruce} l csun - stop 17.80
[06:40] {esemde} morning all SCRX....FDA approval of some drug
[06:43] {bruce} stopped csun
[06:45] {dino} vrtx s .50, stop .83
[06:46] {esemde} long SCRX 22.30...
[06:48] {dino} hmmm
[06:49] {dino} nice ese
[06:49] {esemde} tks
[06:51] {esemde} had bstop in at 22.40 got filled at .30
[06:55] {dino} happening alot to me, slippage
[06:56] {dino} i'm thinking short
[06:56] {BillyD} CSUN ruthless
[06:57] {dino} gs taking a beating last two days
[06:58] {lumdus} BillyD Csun - playing with the devil
[06:58] {Roman} SATC
[07:01] {dino} and remember, you can't change the devil...but he can change you
[07:02] {dino} risky, sm l morn .85
[07:07] {dino} vrtx bstop to b/e
[07:07] {dino} morn stop to .33
[07:09] {dino} out morn, ave .33, +.48
[07:10] {esemde} out SCR$X .53 +.23
[07:10] {lumdus} satc working for roman
[07:11] {dino} gj ese
[07:11] {dino} you kept me from shorting it
[07:12] {esemde} tks dino
[07:14] {dino} vrtx bstop to .39
[07:17] {dino} cov vrtx .22, +.28
[07:17] {Roman} DSTI near 7
[07:17] {Roman} waiting for pullback to enter
[07:20] {Roman} SPIR another solar but very lov volume and thin
[07:21] {magoo} billy, u here?
[07:21] {BillyD} yes
[07:21] {magoo} how do i block out edgex?
[07:21] {dino} scrx s .64, stop .88
[07:22] {BillyD} right click L2
[07:22] {magoo} ok
[07:22] {BillyD} go to hidden MM tab
[07:22] {magoo} k
[07:22] {BillyD} type EDGA and add
[07:23] {BillyD} EDGX and add
[07:23] {BillyD} GAB and add
[07:23] {magoo} in box above ADD?
[07:23] {BillyD} GXB and add
[07:23] {BillyD} check hide market maker box
[07:23] {BillyD} click apply and then click ok
[07:23] {BillyD} yes above add
[07:23] {magoo} type in the box on right above ADD?
[07:24] {BillyD} yes
[07:24] {BillyD} the white box
[07:24] {BillyD} then click add
[07:25] {magoo} i have arca and others listed thewre in left, should they be there?
[07:25] {BillyD} no, click on them and delete them
[07:27] {magoo} hey, THANX
[07:27] {BillyD} sure
[07:28] {magoo} that edgx is worthless exchange
[07:28] {dino} scrx bstop to .76, not moving
[07:28] {hawkfan4} i agree completely mags
[07:28] {magoo} yup
[07:30] {dino} stopped scrx -.12
[07:31] {dino} sigm stopped, yesterday, .85, +.51
[07:33] {magoo} roman, u in dsti?entry?
[07:36] {Roman} i am not in
[07:36] {lumdus} we are in . 6.98 when he called it
[07:36] {Roman} wanted a pullback
[07:36] {lumdus} we got the pullback below 7 i though
[07:36] {lumdus} what is the stop on it 7.09 ?
[07:36] {Roman} 7.03
[07:37] {dino} morn l .59
[07:37] {lumdus} tx
[07:37] {bruce} vlo dino
[07:38] {dino} yw
[07:40] {Roman} long PEIX
[07:40] {Roman} small, slow
[07:40] {dino} hmmm vlo
[07:43] {Roman} watching metals: GOLD & PAAS
[07:45] {dino} nice spot bruce, missed it
[07:45] {bruce} it moved fast dino
[07:46] {dino} i was at .01
[07:47] {dino} celg s break of .75
[07:48] {dino} ok, bstop is .02
[07:48] {dino} akns again
[07:51] {Roman} PEIX stop 8.20
[08:13] {lumdus} ctdc wow !
[08:18] {BillyD} wanted a dip below 10 on CTDC
[08:20] {lumdus} if it goes under 10.19 you can buy my CTDC :)
[08:20] {BillyD} thx :)
[08:20] {lumdus} is there any news on it ?
[08:20] {BillyD} don't know
[08:21] {BillyD} you can check it on yahoo
[08:22] {magoo} ,man DSTI
[08:25] {Roman} out PEIX +.44
[08:26] {magoo} SOLF going for 40..RISKY
[08:28] {lumdus} hoku and solf related ?
[08:28] {magoo} no
[08:29] {magoo} hoku is a monkey...solf a gorrilla
[08:29] {lumdus} hoku, was waiting for a pullback that never happened
[08:30] {esemde} HOKU...
[08:31] {esemde} sorry lum didn't see your post
[08:31] {Roman} lumdus, both are solar HOKU & SOLF
[08:31] {lumdus} tx roman .. that was my question
[08:31] {Roman} FCEL bouncer
[08:32] {dino} ttes
[08:32] {magoo} sorry lum..i thought u meant as in trade/move together...not really to that
[08:33] {magoo} like solf and csiq kinda go in harmony
[08:36] {dino} harmony?, you getting deep magoo?
[08:36] {Roman} PAAS
[08:36] {Roman} radar, slow
[08:36] {Roman} going with metals
[08:37] {Roman} BCON
[08:37] {Roman} alternative energy, radar
[08:38] {Roman} in PAAS small
[08:38] {Roman} 27.22
[08:38] {Roman} 37.22
[08:39] {Roman} if BCON continues CPST should pickup
[08:40] {Roman} CPST pop
[08:46] {magoo} any read DSTI roman?
[08:47] {Roman} nope
[08:47] {magoo} thats IT..........
[08:47] {Roman} it's just buy high and sell higher
[08:47] {Roman} :)
[08:47] * magoo slaps Roman around a bit with a large trout
[08:47] {Roman} got to buy pullbacks on there
[08:49] {Roman} FCEL slow riser
[08:50] {Roman} PLUG radar
[08:50] {Roman} alternative energy getting hot
[08:50] {Roman} ESLR
[08:50] {Roman} probably a go
[08:53] {dino} celg stopped -.26
[08:54] {bruce} yep - jinxed your play dino
[08:55] {bruce} what do you think of akns short here dino?
[08:55] {dino} vlo l .99
[08:56] {dino} only if other solars start dropping, ie; spwr, fslr, jaso
[08:56] {bruce} k
[08:57] {Roman} BLDP long small slow
[09:08] {dino} drys, tbsi
[09:14] {bruce} any read peix roman?
[09:14] {Roman} buy high sell higher
[09:14] {Roman} not really
[09:15] {bruce} k
[09:15] {bruce} celg may be a short again near 50 dino
[09:16] {BillyD} just can't get in sync today
[09:16] {dino} sing
[09:16] {dino} lol
[09:16] {BillyD} lol
[09:16] {magoo} u like band ..nsync billy lol
[09:17] {dino} dk on celg
[09:17] {bruce} fords new cars are perfect for you billy
[09:17] {dino} lol
[09:18] {Roman} HOKU
[09:18] {Roman} no read
[09:33] {bruce} whats stop for vlolong dino - thinking 66.80
[09:33] {dino} y
[09:33] {bruce} k - thanx
[09:34] {dino} want .40+
[09:37] {bruce} makes sense for risk - potential is there
[09:53] {dino} vlo stopped
[09:53] {dino} so much for that
[09:53] {bruce} yep
[09:54] {bruce} not doing well for start of 08
[09:54] {dino} me niether
[09:55] {bruce} gs dumping dino
[09:55] {dino} y
[10:06] {dino} morn stopped .30 -.29
[10:21] {dino} risky, thin powl s .00
[10:22] {bruce} taking break
[10:32] {lumdus} in hoku 1.95
[10:32] {lumdus} stop 13.70
[10:33] {lumdus} sto 13.92
[10:33] {magoo} watching AKNs
[10:34] {lumdus} out 1/2 hoku +.25 rest stop b/e
[10:34] {BillyD} gj lum
[10:34] {lumdus} tx billy
[10:34] {magoo} nice lum
[10:36] {BillyD} sheesh monkey
[10:36] {dino} powl bstop to .58
[10:36] {BillyD} I can never time that thing right
[10:36] {BillyD} in at .85 and out up to .14
[10:37] {magoo} keep eye on solf
[10:37] {dino} make it .51
[10:37] {lumdus} out rest hoku .43 + .49
[10:37] {BillyD} well done lum
[10:38] {lumdus} learning rom you and magoo
[10:39] {dino} gj lum
[10:40] {dino} ugh slippage on stop powl, cov .57, +.43
[10:45] {dino} tm l .89
[10:51] {dino} drys moving up slowly
[10:52] {dino} tbsi l .35
[10:57] {dino} stop is .19
[11:05] {lumdus} try scalp here long eslr 18.18 stop 18.07
[11:08] {dino} lmnx
[11:10] {dino} tbsi stopped -.16
[11:11] {dino} lmnx s .59
[11:12] {dino} too soon
[11:20] {lumdus} stop on eslr b/e - can't watch pain try
[11:20] {magoo} akns has the feel..risky..but 16
[11:53] {lumdus} in brcm 26.67
[12:01] {lumdus} stopped in brcm.
[12:07] {lumdus} Roman is out for the day ?
[12:14] {lumdus} short solf yet ?
[12:16] {lumdus} stop on solf .29 and hold my heart
[12:17] {lumdus} if 3i was here i'd feel better. .. whenis he comming back ?
[12:17] {dino} dk
[12:17] {patience} he is collecting his cat tomorrow morning lumdus
[12:18] {dino} hold your heart?, lol...reverse think it
[12:18] {lumdus} whenever i play solf i make the play and run away .. hee
[12:19] {lumdus} stop on solf b/e 38.15
[12:19] {dino} flip the coin, keep your stop. nothing else matters
[12:19] {lumdus} ok dino. it's a hard stop
[12:20] {lumdus} out 1/2 .75 + 40
[12:20] {dino} feel better?
[12:20] {lumdus} yeah, alot rest stop b/e with comm
[12:20] {dino} gj
[12:20] {lumdus} the damm spread is crack !
[12:21] {dino} another 100 pt+ day i see, serious range days
[12:22] {lumdus} yeah, finally able to trade . last 2 weeks was soo boring.
[12:30] {lumdus} out rest solf 36.35 + $1.85
[12:30] {BillyD} wtg
[12:30] {lumdus} tx
[12:33] {lumdus} billyD dcc
[12:36] {dino} wtg lum
[12:37] {lumdus} tx dino
[12:37] {magoo} its not avail short too laser
[12:37] {BillyD} nope
[12:38] {magoo} wish it was
[12:39] {lumdus} goodnight all.
[12:39] {magoo} nite lum
[12:39] {dino} prsc
[12:39] {dino} gn lum
[12:40] {dino} prsc l .78
[12:43] {esemde} ya talk about your market about face...or what
[12:46] {dino} indeed
[12:54] {bruce} night all
[12:55] {dino} cya bruce
[12:55] {BillyD} bye bruce
[12:55] {magoo} bye bruce
[12:59] {dino} out prsc .70 -.08
[13:00] {dino} holding tm
[13:01] {dino} thx all, gotta hop, son's b-ball practice
[13:01] {BillyD} bye all
Session Close: Fri Jan 04 00:00:00 2008

Wednesday, January 2, 2008

January 2, 2008

Session Start: Wed Jan 02 00:00:00 2008

Session Time: Wed Jan 02 00:00:00 2008

[05:45] {magoo} morning
[05:47] {bruce} hi magoo
[05:52] {dino} gm and happy new year all
[05:53] {magoo} hey bruce, happy new yr
[05:53] {bruce} thanx mags
[05:53] {bruce} same to you
[05:53] {bruce} morning dino
[05:54] {bruce} qcom dino
[05:54] {dino} patent issues
[05:54] {bruce} k
[05:54] {bruce} was wondering if it might bounce
[05:54] {dino} was thinkiing brcm on the long off of it
[05:56] {dino} at 35ish, maybe
[05:56] {bruce} k
[05:57] {bruce} was temted to try a premarket long at 37.50
[05:58] {dino} who knows bruce???
[05:58] {dino} phh deal off\
[06:00] {dino} akns pop
[06:01] {esemde} dino bruce hawk lum magoo...morning
[06:02] {magoo} es:)
[06:02] {hawkfan4} gm all, happy new year
[06:03] {magoo} hawk:)
[06:03] {bruce} thanx hawk - same to you
[06:07] {BillyD} morning
[06:08] {bruce} billy
[06:08] {dino} gm ese
[06:09] {BillyD} late here, any standout s this morning
[06:09] {cosmo} AKNS
[06:10] {cosmo} 11.92 pre mkt high
[06:10] {cosmo} fwiw
[06:10] {BillyD} ty cosmo
[06:10] {cosmo} Akeena Solar licenses new solar panel technology to Suntech
[06:10] {cosmo} Briefing.com (Wed 8:00am)
[06:14] {cosmo} DSTI pre mkt high = 6.70 fwiw
[06:14] {dptl} good morning all
[06:16] {esemde} dp
[06:22] {bruce} dp
[06:23] {dino} dp
[06:24] {lumdus} good morning all. Roman here today ?
[06:24] {cosmo} Solars are rising...'tis a brave new year i think
[06:24] {dino} ldk
[06:25] {Roman} Happy New Year to all
[06:25] {magoo} u 2 roman:)
[06:26] {esemde} roman
[06:26] {bruce} roman
[06:28] {dino} gm rfr
[06:34] {Roman} JADE
[06:34] {esemde} hmmm fund managers not putting too much money to work it seems....
[06:36] {Roman} ALTI
[06:36] {Roman} long
[06:36] {Roman} small
[06:36] {Roman} 4.50
[06:37] {Roman} no chasing,
[06:39] {dino} fxp l .20
[06:39] {Roman} ESLR looking decent
[06:40] {Roman} long BLDP slow, could be all day hold
[06:43] {dino} stopped -.20 fxp
[06:46] {esemde} Ok this could be a Vad question but......seems like everything and it's dog is going up.....what do you look for....
[06:47] {Roman} buy it all
[06:47] {Roman} kidding of course
[06:47] {BillyD} solars seem stuck here
[06:47] {Roman} i am watching solars too
[06:47] {esemde} yuk yuk yuk.......
[06:47] {esemde} solars as well here....
[06:48] {Roman} watching ESLR on pullback
[06:48] {lumdus} fisv
[06:48] {Roman} HOKU looks good
[06:48] {dino} jrjc l .25
[06:48] {Roman} had some news in the morning
[06:49] {lumdus} fisv - ther eyou go
[06:50] {lumdus} hmmm, not really.
[06:52] {dino} qcom s .50, stop .81
[06:53] {dino} jrjc stopped -.28
[06:53] {Roman} CYBS
[06:54] {Roman} looks good for continuation
[06:55] {BillyD} Roman....DSTI can't seem to bounce..any read on it
[06:56] {Roman} not really, but i would wait for it to break down below $6 before expexting a bounce, unless all solars pickup
[06:56] {BillyD} thx
[06:59] {cosmo} pwav
[06:59] {cosmo} tests 4.24
[07:00] {BillyD} in hoku .56
[07:00] {BillyD} tight stop
[07:00] {Roman} ECONX Economic Calendar: Dec ISM Index and Nov Construction Spending data are due out in approx 5 minutes at 10:00 E.T.
[07:00] {dino} fxp l .25
[07:00] {Roman} ECONX Dec ISM Index @ 47.7vs. 50.5 consensus
[07:00] {BillyD} out hoku
[07:00] {BillyD} -.02
[07:01] {dptl} is it fed today?
[07:03] {Roman} Fed Minutes released today at 2 p.m.
[07:03] {Roman} from their meeting on December 11th
[07:03] {dptl} ok ty
[07:04] {BillyD} arca book seems to be sticking on L2
[07:07] {dino} out fxp .29, +1.04
[07:07] {patience} nice way to start the year dino
[07:08] {dino} lucky, only 1 for 3 so far
[07:08] {dino} qcom going to stop me too it seems
[07:09] {dino} stopped -.30
[07:14] {dino} pwrd
[07:20] {Roman} EMKR
[07:20] {Roman} bounce time
[07:21] {Roman} GCOM Globecomm Systems Awarded Service Contract Renewal from a Major U.S. Government Prime Contractor valued up to $42.4 mln (11.69 -0.01)
[07:22] {dino} morn l .27 thin
[07:24] {dino} brcm l .03
[07:30] {dino} smci spike
[07:34] {dino} tbsi l .44
[07:38] {dino} morn stopped
[07:43] {dino} brcm stopped -.290
[07:43] {dino} .20
[07:51] {BillyD} way slow morning
[07:53] {dino} morn l .50
[07:59] {lumdus} very slow just hanging out
[08:01] {dino} and i'm just stopping all over
[08:03] {bruce} mlnm long?
[08:06] {dino} $40m pmt from jnj, and webcast
[08:08] {dino} cpla bit of blood
[08:13] {dino} morn stopped.
[08:15] {dino} rinsed
[08:24] {dino} ldsh l .30
[08:25] {lumdus} bruce mlnm long
[08:25] {lumdus} i think here would be nice. is roman around ?
[08:26] {lumdus} if not, i take it break of .r5
[08:26] {bruce} I'm calling it a day
[08:26] {bruce} 4 straight stops
[08:30] {dino} fstr l .58
[08:30] {Roman} ih ave no read on MLNM
[08:30] {Roman} sory
[08:45] {BillyD} lumdus. see dcc
[08:59] {esemde} ah...ave.. noo..cents of whaaa...is goin on taday
[09:01] {dino} fstr stop to .88
[09:01] {patience} gold options i bought dec 31st have done rather well today...currency contracts are up sharply as well...nice day so far, just scalping options
[09:01] {dino} gj patience
[09:01] {patience} days like this remind me why i trade
[09:02] {esemde} well done patience....beats the craaa.....out of what i'm doin
[09:02] {patience} vad taught me to scalp :)
[09:03] {dino} fstr stop to .04
[09:07] {dino} out fstr ave .98, +.40
[09:09] {esemde} gj dino
[09:10] {dino} thx
[09:26] {dino} cavm
[09:35] {dino} cavm l .00
[09:40] {dino} mdrx l .55
[09:41] {esemde} am watching that one with you dino...good job
[09:41] {esemde} CAVM
[09:43] {dino} ty
[09:43] {dino} lucky
[09:44] {esemde} naw...it's that contrarian skill you have...
[09:49] {dino} :)
[10:12] {patience} selling my kinross, barrick and HGU etf shares now, keeping April and May gold options
[10:12] {patience} today makes up for the 2 weeks in december when i was completely off my game
[10:16] {magoo} nice patience
[10:16] {magoo} hey dave, dcc please when get second
[10:16] {dino} dec. was way off for me too patience
[10:17] {patience} i kept watching vad making good calls but i was just not in the groove, couldn't pull the trigger
[10:17] {dino} did roughly half what i should've
[10:18] {dino} dman litt;e spike, thin
[10:20] {dino} sigm l .34
[10:26] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:31] {magoo} dave dcc if u here
[10:35] {BillyD} AKNS is heating up
[10:40] {esemde} long CSUN 17.09
[10:46] {dino} cavm stop to .25
[10:49] {esemde} out CSUN .30 +.21
[10:49] {dino} out cavm +.21
[10:50] {dino} exls l .52
[10:54] {dino} hdix
[11:00] {dino} gj ese
[11:01] {dino} mdrx stop to .79
[11:02] {esemde} tks
[11:03] {Roman} FED says SITUATION "QUITE FLUID"; GIVEN UNCERTAINTY,FOMC DIDN'T GIVE BALANCE OF RISKS IN DEC 11 STATEMENT
[11:04] {dino} outmdrx .81, +.26
[11:05] {dino} out ldsh .63, +.33
[11:09] {Roman} long DSTI
[11:10] {Roman} 6.10
[11:23] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:23] {magoo} dave, dcc please
[11:31] {patience} ok, i need to get away from the keyboard before i blow my earlier profits. bought xdb (british pound) puts, june 196. have a good day guys
[11:31] {BillyD} bye patience
[11:37] {dino} later patience
[11:58] {dino} salm
[12:01] {dino} brb
[12:12] {dino} l ldsh .26
[12:16] {magoo} ok, bacxk
[12:16] {magoo} u here dave? dcc
[12:18] {lumdus} out dsti +.01 way too boring
[12:19] {dino} lol
[12:31] {dino} artc
[12:33] {dino} jaso strong
[12:48] {BillyD} it will be intersting tomoorow to see which way mkt follows
[12:49] {BillyD} magoo...did you hera from dave
[12:49] {BillyD} hear
[12:50] {magoo} yes, thank u...dcc billy
[12:50] {BillyD} good
[12:55] {dino} l fcsx .94
[12:59] {dino} out fcsx .18, +.24
[12:59] {BillyD} gj dino
[12:59] {dino} out ldsh .31, +.05
[12:59] {BillyD} ASTI news?
[12:59] {BillyD} don't see any
[13:00] {dino} solar thats all
[13:00] {BillyD} SOLF spiked as well
[13:00] {BillyD} see everyone tomorrow
[13:02] {dino} take care all
Session Close: Thu Jan 03 00:00:00 2008