Session Start: Fri Oct 19 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Fri Oct 19 00:00:00 2007
[05:40] {bruce} gm all
[05:40] {Threei} morning guys
[05:42] {tomg} gm vad, all
[05:42] {Threei} tom :)
[05:45] {bruce} hi tom, vad
[05:45] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:46] {tomg} hi bruce
[05:51] {cosmo} SNDK beats est. ...then warns
[05:51] {cosmo} .... could be juicy
[05:54] {magoo} mornink comrades
[05:54] {Threei} cosmo, magoo :)
[05:55] {cosmo} :) .. we are patriots..
[05:55] {magoo} scalped goog last nite 4 for 4
[05:55] {cosmo} in a cents
[05:55] {magoo} i have a system
[05:56] {Threei} wtg
[05:56] {magoo} wait for it to calm down, get general feel for direction, only 100 shares to control risk, and ride it 7-10 pointds
[05:56] {magoo} got 7 points 4 times
[05:57] {magoo} i do not gamble guess ahead
[05:57] {Threei} keep the details, post the entries (in advance so we can follow). thank you
[05:57] {magoo} i waited till like 4:30
[05:57] {Threei} :)
[05:57] {magoo} and did it till 6pm
[05:57] {Threei} humor aside, this is uber cool
[05:58] {Threei} (especially considering the quality ofhumot)
[05:59] {esemde} Good morning everyone....
[05:59] {Threei} ese :)
[05:59] {Threei} look dcc please
[06:00] {markweb} gm all
[06:00] {bruce} hi ese, mark
[06:01] {markweb} :)
[06:02] {Threei} mark :)
[06:02] {Threei} keep an eye on ASTIZ
[06:04] {cosmo} GOOG target = 800 ...hehe
[06:04] {magoo} although, cramer said last nite they blew it with hiring or whatever and should be stuck 635
[06:05] {magoo} adds a lil risk of pullbaxcks
[06:05] {magoo} if he just said "buy it" it would be 700 this morn
[06:06] {dino} gm all
[06:06] {bruce} hi dino
[06:06] {markweb} ddino:)
[06:06] {markweb} dino
[06:06] {Threei} dino :)
[06:07] {dino} :)
[06:07] {magoo} magoo and dino hungover today
[06:07] {magoo} hunt club mtg last nite
[06:08] {bruce} what were you hunting?
[06:08] {magoo} trying to figure out how to shoot all our doves at club (and a few ravens lol)
[06:08] {magoo} its bow season now for whitetail deer
[06:09] {bruce} k- ots of skill to bowhunting
[06:10] {bruce} I got a whitetail once
[06:10] {dptl} good morning all
[06:10] {bruce} with my car
[06:10] {markweb} dp:)
[06:10] {bruce} hi dp
[06:10] {dino} lol
[06:11] {Threei} dp :)
[06:12] {magoo} i got a slammer with bow last year, posted pics in room
[06:12] {bruce} a few minutes after I hit the deer a druck trucker came roaring up behind me
[06:12] {ramvfin2003} gm
[06:12] {bruce} drunk
[06:13] {Threei} ram :)
[06:13] {markweb} ram:)
[06:13] {bruce} he slammed on brakes and truck skidded arund me - backwards
[06:13] {magoo} what state?
[06:14] {bruce} sask canada here
[06:14] {magoo} because dino is a part time long hauler
[06:14] {bruce} lol
[06:14] {bruce} lots of deer here
[06:14] {magoo} and a boozer
[06:14] {cosmo} oh dear...
[06:14] {esemde} bruce my man...you from Sask.....
[06:14] {esemde} where?
[06:14] {magoo} WHAT????u are in saskachewan?
[06:14] {cosmo} oh deer, that is
[06:15] {dino} lol
[06:15] {bruce} that was the wierdest thing - watching a semi go past me backwards
[06:15] {bruce} yes -
[06:15] {magoo} i dream of hunting the big north sackaw someday
[06:15] {dino} you should see magoo run down the hall
[06:15] {bruce} vads thinking of moving here when he gets tired of the coast
[06:15] {esemde} where are you from bruce?
[06:16] {magoo} i go to quebec often
[06:16] {bruce} ontario originally - then here
[06:16] {bruce} quebec is nice
[06:16] {cosmo} do you guys ever see/smell bigfoot?
[06:16] {esemde} I was born and raised in Regina Sask...
[06:16] {bruce} ah
[06:16] {bruce} stoonhere
[06:17] {bruce} seen lots of bears
[06:17] {bruce} but no bigfoot yet
[06:18] {cosmo} always bring your camers
[06:18] {esemde} nver liked Stoon...lost my first girlfriend to some guy from Stoon...lost a provincial chess semi final to some guy from Stoon ....and also lost a badminton semi final to some guy from Stoon.....
[06:18] {cosmo} camera
[06:18] {ramvfin2003} its gonna be a good day all...i feel it
[06:19] {bruce} lol - poor ese
[06:19] {dino} nyx
[06:19] {bruce} hstill haven
[06:19] {bruce} t forgiven me for the chess match?
[06:19] {Threei} hey, you are a chess player ese
[06:19] {esemde} used to be Vad
[06:19] {Threei} same
[06:19] {dino} ese, stay out of stoon
[06:20] {bruce} yah - and dodge too
[06:20] {cosmo} they play checkers in Dodge
[06:20] {esemde} I don't know my opening anymore....counter opening etc...would get wiped out by you i'm sure
[06:20] {Threei} {--- third prize in USSR junior competition in, jeez, 1979
[06:21] {bruce} congrats vad
[06:21] {esemde} i'll heed that advice dino...
[06:21] {Threei} ummm... a bit late congrats... but heck, I'll take it :)
[06:21] {esemde} and dodge as well
[06:21] {bruce} lol
[06:22] {bruce} you probably have goodpattern memory -
[06:22] {bruce} helps with chess - and trading too
[06:22] {ramvfin2003} PMCS up on good earnings?
[06:23] {Threei} 10/18/07 04:06pm [PMCS] Reports Q3 $0.09 v $0.06e, R$117.5M v $113.7Me
[06:24] {ramvfin2003} INSP upgraded from hold to buy
[06:25] {ramvfin2003} SHOO chatter on buyout
[06:28] {magoo} nice on chess vad, proud of our mentor
[06:28] {Threei} ty... looong ago though
[06:29] {magoo} ok, forget it then he he
[06:29] {cosmo} 'check'
[06:31] {Roman} GOLDMAN SACHS INITIATES JASO WITH NEUTRAL, PRICE TARGET: $43
[06:31] {Roman} JASO
[06:31] {Roman} short watch
[06:32] {dino} bottom thoughts on sndk?
[06:32] {markweb} 45
[06:33] {ramvfin2003} ASTI looks good....ASTIZ follows imo
[06:34] {Threei} ASTI, watching for a pullback and buying point
[06:34] {Threei} jumpy, control your risk
[06:34] {dino} anet
[06:34] {ramvfin2003} where r u looking to enter?
[06:35] {Threei} break of .40 it seems
[06:35] {Threei} and ASTIZ has nice juicy offer at .75 to help as indication
[06:35] {magoo} which leads/
[06:36] {esemde} what your bstop for ASTIZ vad
[06:36] {Threei} if 9.75 meltss
[06:36] {Threei} but you can't use market bstop on this one
[06:37] {Threei} and limit above it is not likely to work
[06:37] {Threei} it's for manual entry, to try and grab last shares at .75
[06:37] {cosmo} INFA
[06:38] {cosmo} 16.60 hod
[06:38] {magoo} markets tanking vad
[06:38] {magoo} isn't today the anniversary of black monday '87? indeed
[06:39] {bruce} jnpr tanked
[06:40] {Threei} ASTI is not really breakout play at this point
[06:40] {cosmo} INFA
[06:41] {Threei} INFA is .75 long cos
[06:41] {bruce} nktr short?
[06:42] {Threei} no read on NKTR
[06:42] {ramvfin2003} i got disconn, INFA l above .75?
[06:43] {Threei} yes ram
[06:43] {Threei} BRCM
[06:43] {Threei} short .99
[06:44] {Threei} stop 42.11
[06:45] {ramvfin2003} in BRCM 42.02
[06:45] {bruce} in brcm .02
[06:45] {markweb} sry dino i was wrong on SNDK .12:(
[06:46] {dino} hl l sndk .75, risky
[06:46] {bruce} stopped brcm
[06:47] {dino} np
[06:48] {dino} you were close
[06:48] {markweb} no$$$$$:(
[06:50] {bruce} infa close to trigger
[06:51] {bruce} stop to .45?
[06:51] {Threei} that's too wide for my taste
[06:51] {ramvfin2003} damn BRCM :(
[06:51] {bruce} yes - dont see other support tgough
[06:52] {Roman} long IVAN wing
[06:52] {Roman} swing
[06:52] {Threei} if it sets up from here, .64 is valid stop
[06:52] {ramvfin2003} NED chinese IPO
[06:53] {bruce} k
[06:53] {Roman} long BDCO
[06:54] {Roman} looks like small cap fuels maybe on radar again
[06:54] {magoo} been awhile
[06:55] {magoo} sh brcm loss 42
[06:56] {dino} 46 wall sndk
[06:56] {bruce} in infa .75
[06:58] {ramvfin2003} in .72
[06:58] {ramvfin2003} target vad?
[06:59] {Threei} it's in uncharted territory
[06:59] {Threei} impossible to tell, read it as it moves
[06:59] {Threei} partial olut on sharp spikes
[07:01] {Roman} JASO short
[07:01] {Threei} spike into .90 is for first partial
[07:01] {Roman} small 50.00
[07:01] {Threei} ok, I just must post it
[07:01] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: WOULD LIKE TO SEE OIL PRICES "LOWER"
[07:02] {esemde} LAVA moving slow but the setup looks good
[07:02] {magoo} markets jittery
[07:02] {magoo} brcm trigg
[07:02] {magoo} in
[07:02] {magoo} 42
[07:02] {magoo} short
[07:03] {magoo} shorter
[07:03] {magoo} shortest
[07:03] {esemde} LAVA not anymore
[07:04] {magoo} q losing ground here
[07:04] {magoo} the plane..the plane..er,um..the crash ..the crash {tatu}
[07:04] {Threei} beautiful short magoo
[07:05] {magoo} any thoughtyrts here?
[07:06] {Threei} half
[07:06] {magoo} qqqq getting wacked
[07:06] {markweb} cover thanks mag
[07:06] {Threei} bounces will occur to, 30 cents worth protecting
[07:06] {magoo} nice mark
[07:06] {Threei} I mean 40
[07:06] {Threei} lol
[07:07] {markweb} ty
[07:07] {ramvfin2003} still like this INFA vad?
[07:07] {magoo} out .63
[07:07] {magoo} + 37
[07:07] {Threei} why not
[07:07] {Threei} market tanks, INFA stays high
[07:08] {ramvfin2003} k
[07:08] {Roman} cover JASO +.60
[07:08] {magoo} dino rockin the office bad here
[07:09] {magoo} just got a complaint
[07:09] {bruce} great play roman
[07:09] {magoo} nice roman
[07:10] {dino} gj rfr
[07:10] {Roman} GIGA high
[07:10] {dino} magoo whining today
[07:10] {bruce} infa spike - should we be exiting?
[07:11] {Threei} [10:01] {Threei} spike into .90 is for first partial
[07:11] {Roman} GNBT high
[07:12] {dptl} trak?
[07:14] {Threei} other than short on .50 breakdown, don't see a play on it dp
[07:14] {ramvfin2003} INFA break of .90 should see 17 imo on momo
[07:15] {dptl} ty
[07:15] {Threei} keep it small, jumpy thing
[07:15] {cosmo} salmon have to jump the ladders
[07:18] {cosmo} http://www.brycemuir.com/graphics/RotatingGifs/SalmonLadder.gif
[07:19] {Threei} CHDX
[07:20] {Threei} scary one... has a feel of big mover to it
[07:21] {Threei} .30 small
[07:21] {cosmo} INFA should hold .75
[07:21] {cosmo} imo
[07:23] {trader88} brcm
[07:23] {Threei} anyone dares to look at GEOI?
[07:23] {Threei} told you under 8, it was explosive thing
[07:23] {magoo} chdx is avail short too vad, just in case
[07:23] {magoo} i don't want to look vad
[07:24] {bruce} chdx stop?
[07:25] {Threei} under 32
[07:25] {magoo} in god help me
[07:25] {bruce} in chdx.3
[07:25] {ramvfin2003} INFA held that .75 right on cosmo
[07:26] {cosmo} yeah... it was almost nap time, ram
[07:26] {ramvfin2003} 17 comin
[07:26] {magoo} u take chdx vad?
[07:26] {Threei} yes
[07:27] {magoo} {billy joel} and we'll all go down together.....
[07:27] {Threei} from this point on, no way to lose money on INFA
[07:27] {magoo} i could
[07:27] {Threei} thanks cosmo, great spot
[07:27] {magoo} go long here
[07:27] {magoo} LULU
[07:27] {magoo} activity
[07:28] {magoo} not in stalking
[07:28] {magoo} all the way to 33 vad
[07:29] {Threei} you telling or asking?
[07:29] {magoo} telling :)
[07:29] {Threei} cool, I hoped so
[07:29] {magoo} exit .98
[07:29] {Roman} u guys long or short CHDX?
[07:29] {Threei} if fail, responsibility is yours, if works credit is mine
[07:29] {Threei} long Roman
[07:30] {magoo} as always he he
[07:30] {magoo} thats my inet .98
[07:31] {magoo} actually, changed to .94
[07:31] {magoo} full disclosure
[07:31] {bruce} out chdx .72
[07:32] {esemde} long CORS 11.08 kinda thin stop .96 next resis .53 that my target
[07:32] {dino} stopped sndk
[07:32] {bruce} out 1/2 infa .95
[07:33] {bruce} stop to .8 on balance
[07:34] {ramvfin2003} would u still get in on CHDX?
[07:34] {magoo} noi
[07:35] {ramvfin2003} out INFA .93 ty vad
[07:35] {Threei} welcome
[07:35] {esemde} CYBS
[07:35] {magoo} stopped bastard
[07:35] {magoo} mean stox
[07:36] {magoo} too greedy
[07:36] {bruce} sheesh - lucky - caught exact top in chdx
[07:36] {magoo} scalpers mkt
[07:36] {magoo} i should know better
[07:37] {ramvfin2003} ASTI news?
[07:38] {Roman} JASO short watch
[07:39] {cosmo} INFA wall @ 17? ...np
[07:40] {ramvfin2003} screwed that one up...sold way too soon...i need a cig
[07:40] {bruce} infa stop to .90
[07:41] {cosmo} i use a net
[07:42] {esemde} NAS persisting on going lower today...tsk tsk tsk....
[07:42] {magoo} answer your phone vad lol
[07:44] {Threei} nope
[07:45] {bruce} out balance infa .9
[07:45] {Threei} good job bruce
[07:46] {bruce} thanx vad
[07:46] {bruce} wondering if my trailing stop waws a bit to tight
[07:47] {Threei} nope
[07:47] {bruce} k
[07:47] {Threei} as stock moves vertical you tighten it
[07:47] {bruce} trying to protect profits
[07:47] {Threei} esoecially considering it was long position in falling market
[07:48] {bruce} nice plays - thanx - in black today thank goodness
[07:48] {bruce} breaking new highs though
[07:48] {bruce} so I think it can go higher
[07:48] {cosmo} my dogs often tell me when to tighten the stops
[07:48] {bruce} I was hping for .20 or amybe more
[07:48] {bruce} lol
[07:49] {bruce} so do mine cosmo
[07:49] {bruce} I lost one 2 weks back
[07:49] {bruce} cancer
[07:49] {Threei} I don't have dogs... and cat is lazy
[07:49] {bruce} lol
[07:49] {bruce} you can loan him to me
[07:49] {cosmo} i'm getting that 'look' now, too
[07:49] {bruce} I have a field mouse that got into house somehow
[07:50] {bruce} same here cos - dogs run my life - lol
[07:50] {cosmo} :)
[07:51] {dino} icfi drop
[07:51] {bruce} sndk continues down
[07:53] {esemde} still nursing CORS...Roman can i get your opinion you tend to play thins ones like this
[07:53] {bruce} used to have 4 cats vad
[07:53] {bruce} one was called rambo
[07:53] {dino} will try again later on it
[07:53] {bruce} he was a tough buger
[07:54] {dino} f'ing partials 100 filled icfi at .30, sheesh, c'mon chuck
[07:54] {Threei} NVDA
[07:55] {Threei} if market drops, .20 short with .35 stop
[07:55] {dino} tibx
[07:55] {cosmo} i could never have a cat again...not around here. ..too many coyotes
[07:56] {dino} nah
[07:56] {magoo} were going down 500 for anniversary..the boyz tell me
[07:56] {Threei} TIBX CEO: CO. IS A VERY ATTRACITVE ACQUISITION TARGET
[07:56] {Threei} 1:1 NVDA
[07:57] {bruce} nice - i missed entry
[07:57] {markweb} same here
[07:57] {Threei} got .19 and .18
[07:57] {Threei} out in full here
[07:57] {magoo} i got it vad nvda
[07:57] {bruce} that was a nice quick drop
[07:58] {magoo} black friday
[07:58] {Threei} no single attempt at uptick
[07:58] {Threei} this is how I love'em
[07:58] {magoo} i was gonna take brcm w/your nvda but missed
[07:58] {bruce} nas drop was part of trigger?
[07:59] {Threei} it downticked right on cue
[07:59] {Threei} how do you route your orders guys?
[07:59] {Threei} it was easily available if you set limit 2 cents under the trigger
[07:59] {ramvfin2003} oil pipline in norther iraq set on fire
[08:00] {magoo} out nvda .74 TY vad
[08:00] {Threei} .20 disappeared too quick but .18 was easy, and some shares at .19 were available
[08:00] {Threei} welcome mags
[08:00] {magoo} i caught .17
[08:00] {magoo} it was fast
[08:00] {magoo} brcm went exactly with it biut i missed
[08:01] {ramvfin2003} TIBX vad?
[08:03] {Threei} news move...
[08:03] {dino} ostk l hl .00
[08:04] {Threei} FED'S POOLE: MARKETS NOW DO MUCH OF THE FED'S WORK FOR IT
[08:04] {dino} hl l rimm .51
[08:06] {magoo} risky
[08:07] {ramvfin2003} would u play TIBX?
[08:08] {Threei} if .85 scrolls... risky one
[08:08] {ramvfin2003} stop?
[08:08] {Threei} it doesn't have technical read to it ram
[08:08] {Threei} this is news play
[08:08] {ramvfin2003} k
[08:09] {bruce} way to go dino
[08:09] {bruce} did you get out w profit?
[08:10] {dino} scanner starting to show green
[08:10] {dino} not yet bruce want a buck
[08:11] {bruce} k
[08:11] {bruce} have noticed you go for big moves
[08:11] {dino} same w/ostk
[08:11] {bruce} that is double bottom reversal play?
[08:12] {dino} that is what dino refers to as "gut"
[08:12] {bruce} lol - k
[08:12] {dino} don't overthink it, its just a trade
[08:13] {bruce} hard to read - trend is down - but may bounce here - must have good skill at reading
[08:14] {dino} bruce, find your edge, manage the risk (size), keep your stop. keep it simple. anything can happen
[08:16] {bruce} my edge is really well hidden
[08:16] {bruce} do a good job on stops though
[08:17] {dino} stops are key
[08:17] {dino} rimm stop is .14 fwiw
[08:19] {bruce} stops help - you lose money slower that way
[08:19] {dino} rimm stopped -.36
[08:21] {dino} trade in the present bruce, not yesterday.
[08:22] {dino} reverse your thinking...expect to lose. embrace risk, it's your friend. just keep the stop. keep it simply. i am clueless everyday, no idea what i will play.
[08:22] {bruce} tryindino- thanx for advice
[08:23] {dino} whats w/anet?
[08:23] {magoo} at lows 216 down
[08:24] {Threei} don't see any news dino
[08:24] {Threei} black monday of 1987 had 508 points drop
[08:24] {Threei} and it was much more serious in % with those lwevels
[08:25] {Threei} this drop (for now at least) is trivial
[08:25] {markweb} news?
[08:25] {Threei} on what?
[08:25] {markweb} on drop
[08:25] {dino} anet hl s .20, risky
[08:26] {Threei} nope
[08:26] {magoo} we could be setting up for a black monday on ...u guessed it...monday
[08:26] {markweb} anet
[08:26] {markweb} sry
[08:26] {dino} anet stop is .33 tight
[08:27] {bruce} any read on wind vad?
[08:27] {magoo} i'm reading dino's wind right now
[08:27] {Threei} not really... too narrow
[08:28] {bruce} k 2$ down -
[08:28] {Threei} ?
[08:29] {Threei} WIND is down 13 cents
[08:29] {bruce} geesh
[08:29] {bruce} sorry
[08:29] {bruce} looking at vlo
[08:33] {dino} out iostk .30, +.30
[08:33] {dino} ostk that is
[08:35] {ramvfin2003} VRTX?
[08:36] {dino} ok hl l icfi .45 ave
[08:36] {Threei} small shares long
[08:36] {Threei} not very compelling play though
[08:36] {ramvfin2003} here on VRTX vad?
[08:36] {Threei} yeah
[08:36] {ramvfin2003} k passing
[08:37] {Threei} kind of, you know... 53% in favor :)
[08:38] {ramvfin2003} lol
[08:43] {bruce} cmed short?
[08:45] {dino} l hl sndk .50
[08:46] {Threei} no clue bruce, the way it trades is too sporadic
[08:46] {bruce} k - looks like nasty stop too
[08:47] {ramvfin2003} vad need a good call :)
[08:48] {dino} anet stopped -.13
[08:49] {bruce} l sndk .52
[08:50] {bruce} out .74
[08:53] {Threei} ram... you'll know if/when I see it :)
[08:58] {bruce} i had set .40 stop on sndk dino
[08:59] {bruce} your thoughts - was it too tight ?
[08:59] {dino} you get stopped ?
[09:00] {bruce} no
[09:00] {bruce} worked nice
[09:00] {bruce} in 52 out .74
[09:00] {dino} nice trade. i personall hate to use zeros and fives for stops, go a coulp below
[09:00] {bruce} just wndering if i played it too narrow
[09:01] {bruce} k -so .38 would have been better
[09:01] {dino} imo, everyone uses zeros and fives
[09:02] {dino} tight, your decision, go smaller size wider stops or bigger and tight for scalkps
[09:02] {dino} icfi stop to .79
[09:02] {bruce} k - and would tink you are probably going for over 45 on sndk?
[09:03] {dino} not anymore mkt falling
[09:03] {ramvfin2003} VRTX new HOD
[09:03] {bruce} k
[09:03] {dino} out ifci +.39
[09:04] {bruce} infa new highs
[09:05] {dino} sndk stop to .49
[09:05] {bruce} worth a try long again infa vad?
[09:05] {Threei} chart is totally out of whack
[09:06] {ramvfin2003} missed that VRTX :(
[09:07] {magoo} vad, any read aapl, bidu, goog ??he he
[09:07] {Threei} you listed 3 symbols, right?
[09:07] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:07] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:07] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:08] {Threei} see INFA bruce?
[09:08] {magoo} roflol..and choking on pizza
[09:08] {Threei} this is untradable
[09:09] {bruce} yes - watching it - spike after 17 was warning it may just be a fakeout?
[09:09] {Threei} it's not even that
[09:10] {Threei} it's simply spikes up, retreats below all support levels, spikes again...
[09:10] {Threei} nothing to base read on
[09:10] {ramvfin2003} going for a cig, vad dont call anything till i get back please :)
[09:10] {Threei} lol
[09:10] {Threei} in the m orning, when cosmo first mentioned it, there was a structure to a play
[09:10] {markweb} BRCM Vad?
[09:10] {Threei} trigger, stop...
[09:11] {Threei} now it's just a painting by artist high on weed
[09:11] {markweb} triger on BRCM
[09:11] {Threei} BRCM looks like long .18
[09:11] {markweb} ty
[09:11] {ramvfin2003} should i wait for cig than vad
[09:12] {ramvfin2003} where would u stop BRCM?
[09:12] {Threei} I don't know how high in your scale of priorities it is :)
[09:12] {dino} sndk stopped -.02
[09:13] {Threei} 41.04 stop
[09:14] {dino} l hl nvda .25
[09:15] {dino} chtt
[09:16] {bruce} l brcm .19
[09:17] {ramvfin2003} l .18
[09:17] {ramvfin2003} brcm
[09:17] {ramvfin2003} u in vad?
[09:17] {Threei} NQ breaks 2180 again, BRCM should work nicely
[09:18] {magoo} and nvda imho
[09:18] {Threei} yeah, they are in the same cart
[09:18] {ramvfin2003} target on BRCM vad
[09:19] {Threei} will be totally NQ dependent
[09:19] {Threei} it will move as long as NQ will
[09:21] {dino} vclk
[09:21] {dino} ctct
[09:25] {ramvfin2003} come on brcm...daddys due
[09:25] {Threei} in today's terms, market would have to drop 1300 points to match 1987 crash
[09:25] {Threei} not going to happen, by any stretch of imagination
[09:25] {magoo} maybe on monday
[09:30] {esemde} have a great day everyone......
[09:31] {Threei} take care ese
[09:31] {esemde} and weekend....
[09:31] {ramvfin2003} come on brcm no stoppie
[09:32] {dino} risky hl l ttpy .15
[09:34] {bruce} bye ese
[09:40] {dino} tbsi hl l .67
[09:42] {ramvfin2003} brcm keeps trying
[09:42] {Threei} NQ is getting ready to upward move
[09:42] {Threei} and BRCM held well
[09:44] {ramvfin2003} no stoppie no stoppie..lol
[09:45] {dino} zumz
[09:45] {Threei} 2180 is magic number
[09:48] {bruce} stopped brcm
[09:48] {Threei} sigh
[09:49] {bruce} maybe I'm jinxing your plays vad
[09:50] {ramvfin2003} i cant win
[09:51] {dptl} stoped ,stoped........having bad week, taking a break
[09:52] {ramvfin2003} should have went for my cig....going now
[09:52] {dino} lol
[09:54] {dino} ttpy stop to .39
[09:54] {dino} rock-n-roll tbsi
[09:57] {bruce} time for a dog walk
[09:57] {bruce} back in 20
[09:57] {bruce} hey vad - maybe you should start walking that lazy cat of yours
[10:00] {dino} maybe vad should just start walking, :)
[10:00] {markweb} pss
[10:03] {dino} tbsi stopped flat
[10:03] {markweb} out ttpy thanks Dino!
[10:03] {dino} gj
[10:04] {markweb} ty
[10:06] {dino} nvda stopped .99 -,26
[10:07] {tomg} still upward move on nq vad?
[10:07] {tomg} or should i bail
[10:09] {markweb} SNDK i was wrong $1 Dino. LOL
[10:11] {dino} l hl tbsi .35
[10:13] {dino} lol
[10:13] {Threei} 2180 tom... until it's broken, no read
[10:13] {tomg} ty
[10:14] {dino} out ttpy +.25
[10:15] {markweb} gj
[10:15] {dino} ty
[10:15] {Threei} sorry for being a bit distracted guys, my son leaves for a few month trip to south-east asia today
[10:15] {dino} still down for day, 1st down since 10/01
[10:16] {ramvfin2003} wow, thats awesome dino....well not being down part
[10:16] {dino} just lucky
[10:16] {dino} and the days not over yet
[10:17] {ramvfin2003} one good trade from vad and ill be at break even
[10:17] {dino} gj, tough day
[10:17] {ramvfin2003} hint hint..lol
[10:17] {Threei} don't forget to add "no pressure"
[10:19] {dino} brb
[10:23] {dino} tbsi stopped -.45
[10:26] {dino} rinsed
[10:30] {dino} tbsi l .00, risky
[10:31] {dino} wide
[10:34] {Threei} GEMB half lot short .86 if stays under 33
[10:34] {Threei} GYMB
[10:35] {ramvfin2003} where would u stop vad?
[10:36] {Threei} [13:35] {Threei} ... if stays under 33
[10:42] {bruce} back lads
[10:43] {ramvfin2003} in .84
[10:44] {dino} praa drop
[10:45] {magoo} goog long 100 sh 649.25
[10:45] {ramvfin2003} come on gymb
[10:45] {dino} big shot
[10:47] {magoo} stop uit flat now or let it run multi points
[10:47] {bruce} in gymb .94
[10:47] {dino} praa l trig .00
[10:47] {dino} ok in
[10:47] {magoo} offer 650.25
[10:48] {bruce} son on vacation vad?
[10:48] {Threei} backpacking trip
[10:49] {magoo} how old vad?
[10:49] {Threei} 19
[10:49] {magoo} going with peers?
[10:49] {bruce} k
[10:49] {Threei} girlfriend
[10:49] {bruce} my son did that in europe 2 years back
[10:49] {bruce} and going to se asia this summer
[10:49] {bruce} was reallly good for him
[10:50] {magoo} are u xcited for him or nervous?
[10:50] {Threei} both... but nervous prevails :)
[10:50] {magoo} i would be
[10:50] {bruce} stopped
[10:51] {bruce} they have no fear at 19
[10:51] {Threei} yeah... and south east asia is not europe
[10:51] {ramvfin2003} stopped gymb
[10:51] {bruce} my son did some dumb things
[10:51] {dptl} stoped gymb
[10:51] {dino} so have i
[10:52] {ramvfin2003} unreal today
[10:52] {Threei} shakeout central
[10:52] {bruce} you bet
[10:52] {magoo} problem with GYMB guys was the naz reversed hard
[10:52] {bruce} worth another try vqad?
[10:53] {magoo} i covered it .80 when saw that
[10:53] {magoo} only if naz falls
[10:53] {bruce} smart mags
[10:53] {magoo} {ding dong} lucky
[10:54] {magoo} ding dong= dino
[10:54] {magoo} out goog
[10:54] {dino} hmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:54] {bruce} 3 wins 3 losses - typical day for me
[10:54] {dino} gj magoo, nice scalping today'
[10:55] {magoo} i need a brew dino
[10:55] {ramvfin2003} 1 win 4 losses
[10:55] {dino} wins outweighing losses?
[10:55] {bruce} yes - bigger wins than losses today so still black
[10:55] {magoo} dino outweighing magoo he he
[10:55] {dino} 4/5 for me
[10:55] {bruce} thats a good sign
[10:56] {bruce} sory ram - tough day
[10:56] {bruce} that was my yesterday
[10:57] {dino} 2 hours left guys, some of the best
[10:57] {bruce} my son came back a new person vad
[10:58] {bruce} way more respect for mom and all the work done for him at home
[10:58] {bruce} even started helping out
[10:58] {Threei} hope for the same
[10:58] {bruce} was an amazing change
[10:59] {bruce} can feel for you
[10:59] {dino} i should send magoo away then, :)
[10:59] {bruce} I was reallyu nervous
[10:59] {bruce} he went on own
[10:59] {bruce} wanted him to take a tour but he was against that
[10:59] {Threei} rofl dino
[11:00] {bruce} whos going to clean up after you then dino?
[11:01] {ramvfin2003} just did p/l for day...-770 :(
[11:01] {bruce} and keep you awake by hurling insults?
[11:01] {bruce} sheesh - thats my trading account ram
[11:01] {Threei} whoa ram... there was no such wide stops
[11:02] {bruce} there goes gymb
[11:02] {bruce} @*%####@
[11:03] {bruce} hey mags -
[11:03] {bruce} wy not reciprocate -
[11:03] {magoo} but mkt tanked bruce
[11:03] {bruce} and get a backback for dino?
[11:03] {magoo} thats the reenter trigger
[11:06] {dino} lol
[11:08] {Threei} frikkin GYMB
[11:08] {dptl} yep
[11:08] {bruce} yes - lovely fakeout play
[11:10] {dino} i must be getting tired, was watching wrong stock
[11:12] {dino} yhoo
[11:13] {bruce} what do you think of csco long dino?
[11:17] {dino} too thick for me
[11:22] {Threei} see if YHOO holding above .60
[11:22] {Threei} if so, long .72
[11:26] {Threei} .64 stop
[11:29] {ramvfin2003} in YHOO .69
[11:32] {bruce} stopped
[11:33] {magoo} ram, u are ther kiss of death today
[11:33] {dptl} stoped
[11:33] {bruce} sheesh
[11:33] {ramvfin2003} im sorry guys, ill be done for the day
[11:33] {bruce} didn't you have a great week last week ram?
[11:34] {bruce} seemed like everything was going right for you?
[11:35] {dino} easy on ram magoo, sheesh
[11:35] {ramvfin2003} :(
[11:36] {Threei} slap hgim with trout ram, you will feel better
[11:39] {bruce} I had a tough week
[11:39] {bruce} lost 3 out of 5 days with flat today
[11:39] {bruce} mags saved my ass wed
[11:39] {dino} look at it this way ram, we are down 5 days straight, if you are primarly a long trader, it will be tough to trade
[11:40] {bruce} next week will be better
[11:40] {dino} good attitude
[11:40] {bruce} I really want to thank you guys for sharing your ideas
[11:41] {bruce} this is a tough game to learn on own
[11:41] {dino} np
[11:42] {magoo} what u call me bruce?!? an ASS
[11:42] {dino} ifthe shoe fits
[11:42] {bruce} lol - no that was for me
[11:47] {bruce} I have a field mouse that got in house
[11:47] {bruce} set traps for it
[11:47] {bruce} hair trigger
[11:47] {bruce} look at them wrng and then go off
[11:48] {bruce} damn mouse ate the bait 4 times without setting off trap
[11:48] {bruce} thats one lucky (smart?) mouse
[11:49] {bruce} so now I have a happy well fed filed mouse in house
[11:51] {bruce} mer short?
[11:53] {Threei} I guess, but I will jinx it
[11:53] {bruce} no - thats my talent vad
[11:54] {Threei} oh, I seem to be learning from you then quitye well today :)
[11:54] {Threei} OK guys, time for me to drive my son to ferry... take care, have a good weekend, I'll see you on Monday
[11:55] {bruce} take care vad
[11:55] {magoo} bye vad
[11:55] {markweb} see you
[11:56] {dino} later vad
[12:00] {dino} back in 10
[12:31] {bruce} csco
[12:31] {bruce} anyone here good at reading reversals?
[12:32] {magoo} bruce, reversals the hard routew today
[12:32] {bruce} k
[12:32] {bruce} stay on short side
[12:33] {magoo} easiest direction down so far
[12:34] {bruce} any read on mer further south?
[12:35] {magoo} not i
[12:35] {bruce} k
[12:36] {bruce} just checcked those mouse traps by the WAY
[12:36] {bruce} bloody mouse got bait on both again
[12:37] {bruce} mashed my fingers resettng them
[12:37] {dino} nflx, kalu
[12:39] {dino} lol
[12:40] {bruce} I see the drops dino
[12:40] {bruce} just not sure how to play them
[12:40] {bruce} market looks overexteneded to me - but what do I know
[12:41] {bruce} short csco
[12:42] {dino} icfi l .49
[12:43] {bruce} out csco + 15
[12:43] {markweb} gj
[12:44] {dptl} have a good weekend all .....see ya all monday....got to relax ,had really bad week
[12:44] {bruce} even a stopped clock is right twice a day but thanx mark
[12:44] {bruce} me too dp
[12:44] {magoo} shake it off guys...this was a difficult week
[12:44] {markweb} lol
[12:44] {bruce} see you monday
[12:44] {bruce} I'm shakin mags
[12:45] {dino} later dp
[12:45] {dino} later bruce
[12:46] {bruce} bye dino
[12:47] {dino} l kalu .00
[12:51] {dino} stopped -.11
[12:56] {markweb} DRYS Dino
[12:59] {dino} ifci out .50
[12:59] {dino} flat
[12:59] {dino} ifci
[13:00] {markweb} cover drys flat
[13:00] {dino} down day, toughy.
[13:01] {markweb} bye dino
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Friday, October 19, 2007
Thursday, October 18, 2007
October 18, 2007
Session Start: Thu Oct 18 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Thu Oct 18 00:00:00 2007
[05:04] {bruce} gm all
[05:40] {cosmo} LOGI should hold 33.50
[05:40] {cosmo} ... or its nap time
[05:41] {Threei} any time is nap time
[05:41] {Threei} morning :)
[05:41] {cosmo} yes... even in the morning
[05:41] {Threei} especially in the morning
[05:42] {Threei} but, you realize if you said evening or afternoon I'd say the same
[05:42] {cosmo} its a 24 hour world these days
[05:43] {bruce} ebay gave up all its post market frenzy gains
[05:43] {cosmo} 24 hours of morning... somewhere...
[05:43] {Threei} yeah, what's up EBAY
[05:43] {Threei} contradicting upgrades/downgrades
[05:44] {Threei} 3 upgrades including GS, 2 downgrades
[05:44] {bruce} kind of looks like it - didn't even hold closing price
[05:45] {Threei} GOAM prints near yeste high
[05:47] {bruce} you think logi is a long for day cosmo?
[05:48] {cosmo} hmmm .... long zzzz, maybe
[05:48] {bruce} k
[05:49] {bruce} vad - have you considered doing more all - day trades?
[05:49] {cosmo} i'll sleep on it, bruce
[05:49] {bruce} target trades with a high probability of move in one direction
[05:49] {bruce} then buy small on open and hold for day
[05:50] {cosmo} a day is a long time
[05:50] {bruce} too long you think?
[05:50] {Threei} I need to see a reason for putting such trade on
[05:50] {bruce} SOME STOCKS TREND ALL DAY
[05:50] {Threei} some do, some don't,
[05:50] {Threei} question is
[05:50] {bruce} I have trouble identifying them though
[05:50] {Threei} as stock moves, read changes, right?
[05:51] {bruce} yes
[05:51] {Threei} so, how can you assign the target in time terms instead of character of the move terms?
[05:51] {Threei} I mean, you decide this one is all day hold,
[05:51] {bruce} don't know - just thought there might be setups that identify strong trend potential
[05:52] {Threei} then you see parabolic move, verticla explosion obviously setting a stage for euphoria-selloff cycle
[05:52] {dptl} good morning all
[05:52] {Threei} will you continue holding because you decided it's a day hold
[05:52] {Threei} or will you react on the character of the move?
[05:52] {Threei} dp :)
[05:52] {bruce} hi dp
[05:53] {bruce} I thought maybe day patterns could identify potential day trenders
[05:53] {Threei} it's just a matter of time frame in which you read the charts
[05:53] {bruce} but I think I hear you sayingmost moves are too erratic during a day for that
[05:54] {Threei} you can go ahead and identify trends in intraday time frame, or daily, or monthly
[05:54] {bruce} better to just grab moves while they are moving in one direction and get out
[05:54] {Threei} this is what I do
[05:54] {Threei} in order to do what you say I would need to change EVERYTHING
[05:54] {Threei} whole approach to trading
[05:55] {cosmo} use fundamentals?
[05:55] {Threei} mine has shaped up under the influence of zillion factors
[05:55] {Threei} risk tolerance most of all
[05:55] {Threei} the longer your exposure to the market is the bigger your risk
[05:56] {Threei} method of reading I apply looks at what's happening in fron of your eyes and governs your reaction
[05:56] {Threei} thus picking up the easiest money
[05:56] {Threei} and getting out before weather changes
[05:57] {Threei} of course now and then I identify longer time frame trends,
[05:57] {cosmo} NKTR
[05:58] {Threei} as in recent example with rally call around 09/12
[05:58] {Threei} but that is to help find the right trades
[05:58] {Threei} in my time frame
[05:58] {Threei} rather than trade that time ferame
[05:58] {magoo} morn
[05:58] {Threei} magoo :)
[05:59] {bruce} hey magoo
[06:00] {bruce} thanks vad - just exploring diferent ways to trade profitably
[06:00] {esemde} good morning all....
[06:00] {Threei} ese :)
[06:00] {Threei} ese, look your e-mail please
[06:00] {esemde} got your email yesterday Vad
[06:00] {bruce} still learning your strategy - not easy money for me
[06:00] {Threei} cool, let me know
[06:00] {bruce} howdy ese
[06:00] {esemde} bruce
[06:01] {cosmo} NKTR: Nektar stock drops after Pfizer pulls plug on drug
[06:01] {Threei} as you observe the trades I call bruce... try to identfy the decision factors, ask questions
[06:01] {Threei} it's really nothing complicated
[06:01] {bruce} working on it vad
[06:01] {bruce} thanks
[06:01] {esemde} will do...... have not been much of a participant this week everyone...big tech problems
[06:02] {bruce} sorry to ask so many questions
[06:02] {bruce} getting there though I think
[06:02] {Threei} don't be sorry... ask'em
[06:02] {Threei} ese, other problems aside of this scanner one?
[06:05] {Threei} bruce... for longer time frame trades watch roman, he does a lot of those,
[06:05] {esemde} yes....the trading vehicle keeps shutting down...
[06:05] {Threei} but my thinking is, you are looking for alternative before mastering one
[06:05] {Threei} that's not focused approach
[06:06] {Threei} learn one, expand your horizons after if there is a need/want
[06:06] {esemde} it could be the way my computor is configed....but everthing else works
[06:06] {Threei} hmm ese... sounds like this scanner issue just a symptom of bigger one then
[06:07] {bruce} thanx vad
[06:07] {esemde} funny thing is....i restored my computor to a previous state and the old trading vehicle worked..
[06:08] {Threei} so their upgraded version is flawed looks like
[06:08] {esemde} this new one that they have doesn't....hmmmmmis it ...or is it not my computor then....hmmmm
[06:08] {Threei} sounds like that tome
[06:08] {cosmo} ese: i had a support tech tell me once this problem could be spiritual ...fwiw
[06:09] {esemde} spiritual......nice....all in my mind......as i watch profitable trades go by...FOR REAL
[06:10] {cosmo} i can emphasize
[06:10] {Threei} try what our support suggested ese... to narrow down the problem
[06:11] {Threei} empathize cos?
[06:11] {cosmo} hmm
[06:12] {cosmo} spelling? ....that's raven's job i thot
[06:13] {Threei} yes, I am baiting him
[06:13] {magoo} obsevation here....yhoo popped after earnings 3 points....gave all back and some next morn
[06:14] {magoo} ebay pops 3 pts...gave all back next morn
[06:14] {magoo} are u with me?
[06:14] {bruce} lol - yes - typed that 30 mins ago mags
[06:14] {Threei} yes but we are deweply distrubed by this
[06:15] {dino} gm all
[06:15] {magoo} last qtr...bidu poped 30 pts..i shorted it next morn and got it all back
[06:15] {magoo} hhhhmmmm
[06:15] {Threei} dino :)
[06:15] {bruce} hi dino
[06:15] {magoo} mkt xtended...the tone is becoming a pop and drop
[06:16] {bruce} thats what id did yesterday for mostpart - quick moves
[06:16] {markweb} gm all
[06:16] {bruce} lulu was an exception - kept rising
[06:16] {bruce} hey mark
[06:16] {Threei} mark :)
[06:17] {Raven} {-------- overloaded with bad grammer and misspelled words ... arghhh ... GM
[06:17] {Threei} sorry R
[06:17] {cosmo} me too
[06:17] {Threei} but we can't help it
[06:17] {cosmo} i try
[06:18] {Raven} sigh
[06:21] {bruce} hi raven
[06:21] {Raven} hey bruce
[06:21] {bruce} maybe add a spell ceck vad
[06:21] {bruce} lol
[06:21] {bruce} check
[06:22] {Threei} why
[06:22] {Threei} to kill all the fun?
[06:22] {Threei} and to make Raven's life boring?
[06:23] {Threei} magoo with good spelling - won't it feel very unnatural?
[06:23] {Raven} oh sigh ... too much blabber in here ... results in too many errors
[06:23] {magoo} d;odgjk;dj
[06:23] {Raven} magoo is so bad I sometimes use "ignore"
[06:24] {magoo} aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh come on????
[06:24] {Raven} oh ... hi ma a gog gogooooooo
[06:24] {bruce} are you choking raven
[06:24] {bruce} ?
[06:24] {Raven} at times
[06:24] {bruce} someone call a paramedic
[06:24] {cosmo} LOGI
[06:25] {cosmo} looks testy
[06:25] {Threei} [09:24] {magoo} d;odgjk;dj {--- that's magoo we know and appreciate
[06:26] {magoo} thats russian vad, what i say to enlighten roiom
[06:27] {Raven} roiom
[06:27] {dino} bruce good questions this a.m., don't be afraid to ask.
[06:27] {Raven} moior
[06:28] {bruce} you can offer an english grammer add -on subscription feature vad
[06:29] {Threei} and spiritual consulting for computer problems?
[06:29] {bruce} good idea
[06:30] {bruce} maybe add a computer psychic too
[06:30] {cosmo} :)
[06:30] {bruce} ebay short?
[06:31] {Threei} let it establish something
[06:31] {ramvfin2003} NVDA?
[06:31] {dino} just need an easy button bruce
[06:31] {ramvfin2003} wife works for staples corp...can get u a ton of easy buttons..lol
[06:31] {bruce} me too dino
[06:32] {bruce} thats another add- on
[06:35] {Threei} JNPR short half lot .90 breakdown
[06:36] {Threei} over 37.15 invalidated
[06:36] {Threei} see GEOI?
[06:37] {bruce} bac short?
[06:37] {magoo} vad..look at volume
[06:37] {magoo} that was roman entirely
[06:37] {Threei} lol
[06:38] {Threei} BAC, I would short 48 break
[06:39] {Threei} JNPR is two-sided setup
[06:39] {Threei} breakout is long
[06:39] {ramvfin2003} break of .14 is long on JNPR vad?
[06:39] {Threei} yes
[06:39] {Threei} half lot
[06:40] {dino} avct
[06:40] {Threei} .99 stop JNPR
[06:43] {bruce} jnpr .17 l
[06:43] {esemde} PLCM.....
[06:45] {magoo} LULU continues vad
[06:45] {bruce} missed bac entry
[06:45] {Threei} and looks breaky
[06:45] {magoo} OY
[06:46] {Threei} pullback into 53 would be best to look for entry mags
[06:46] {Threei} GOAM on the move
[06:46] {Threei} Roman was right
[06:46] {bruce} logi took off
[06:48] {Threei} BAC CFO: CDO PIPELINE 'SLIGHTLY MORE' THAN $1B - CONF CALL
[06:49] {dino} need a top on it
[06:50] {bruce} stopped jnpr
[06:50] {Threei} yup
[06:50] {ramvfin2003} topped JNPR
[06:51] {bruce} next
[06:51] {magoo} stoped jnpr a
[06:52] {bruce} wm short?
[06:52] {Threei} CTDC
[06:52] {dino} fonr hl s .55, risky
[06:53] {dino} bstop .82
[06:53] {Threei} 30 breakdown, but this is scary one bruce
[06:53] {Threei} volatile
[06:53] {bruce} see that - big stop - going to pass
[06:54] {dino} hl l vrtx .80, stop .46
[06:55] {dino} forn stopped slips -.35
[06:55] {ramvfin2003} AVCI?
[06:56] {Threei} BRCM half lot aggressive short with stop just above 42
[06:56] {dino} stopped vrtx -.33
[06:56] {Threei} first sign of weakness from here BRCM
[06:57] {Threei} no read on AVCI, wierd one
[06:57] {Threei} ADBE
[06:57] {Threei} .33 long
[06:58] {Threei} .19 stop
[06:58] {ramvfin2003} in .33
[06:59] {Threei} BRCM invaliadted over 42
[07:00] {Threei} SEPT LEADING INDICATORS: 0.3% V 0.3%E
[07:00] {Threei} IRAQ STOPPING OIL DUE TO FULL STORAGE TANKS
[07:01] {cosmo} ... that figures
[07:02] {Threei} anyone got BRCM?
[07:02] {magoo} i in
[07:02] {magoo} .93
[07:03] {bruce} missed entry
[07:03] {bruce} tried .93
[07:05] {Threei} cover half BRCM
[07:06] {Threei} stop to .85
[07:08] {ramvfin2003} VRTX?
[07:10] {Threei} NVDA .75 short, .86 stop
[07:11] {cosmo} adbe
[07:11] {Threei} ADBE is nice candidate for trend but NQ action keeps it down
[07:12] {cosmo} adbe patiently waits for reversal
[07:14] {dino} wrnc hl l .02
[07:15] {dino} avct l hl .35
[07:17] {dino} good spot vrtx ram
[07:17] {ramvfin2003} RIO?
[07:17] {Threei} what's with PRGN
[07:18] {bruce} was stop 28.45 avct dino?
[07:18] {dino} wierd moves today
[07:19] {dino} getting rinsed, if following, i'm widening careful
[07:19] {bruce} just curious _ didn't take it - support looke3d too far away
[07:20] {dino} bruce, i'm long l=long
[07:20] {dino} should've sdhorted, lol
[07:20] {bruce} yup
[07:21] {Threei} INFY
[07:21] {bruce} how would you set stop for avct long trade?
[07:21] {Threei} INDIAN FIN MIN SAYS NO INTENTION OF IMPOSING CAPITAL CONTROLS ON CAPITAL FLOWS
[07:21] {dino} wide, lol, it's whipping, go smaller size and wider stop, can't use the hard as it will rinse
[07:22] {bruce} k
[07:22] {bruce} thought it would need to be pretty big
[07:22] {dino} like pulp
[07:22] {bruce} so you watch price action and make judgement call when in?
[07:23] {dino} y
[07:23] {dino} but don't let it kill you
[07:23] {bruce} k
[07:24] {cosmo} .....so, is India 'lese faire'?
[07:25] {dino} indians in the series i believe
[07:25] {bruce} adbe long?
[07:26] {Threei} it's a slowly trending one... tough read for me
[07:26] {bruce} k - passing then
[07:26] {Threei} one of those that can climb slowly whole day
[07:26] {Threei} but finding entries is tough on them
[07:27] {cosmo} but its a good investment
[07:27] {bruce} lol cosmo
[07:28] {bruce} thats what brokers say when you get rinsed
[07:28] {Threei} PRGN, half lot long on .50 break
[07:28] {bruce} next line is double up
[07:28] {Threei} stop under .30
[07:28] {Threei} can go to 27 easily
[07:28] {magoo} in prgn
[07:29] {dino} cramer pick last night prgn
[07:30] {Threei} EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: +39 BCF VS. + 55 TO +60 BCF EXPECTED RANGE
[07:31] {Threei} come on cramerites, buy it
[07:31] {magoo} we need him to mentiobn it today
[07:33] {bruce} prgn in .43
[07:34] {Threei} NQ just can't make up its mind today
[07:35] {dino} vrtx interesting now
[07:36] {dino} bruce avct stop tto .19
[07:36] {dino} hard
[07:36] {magoo} nvda valid??
[07:37] {bruce} stopped
[07:37] {dino} risky, hl l vrtx .60
[07:37] {Threei} backing off for now, nothing workas
[07:38] {dino} avct stop to .75
[07:39] {bruce} thanks dino
[07:39] {ramvfin2003} NTES?
[07:39] {dino} out avct .79, +.44
[07:40] {dino} np, gj
[07:40] {dino} pullback to .25ish imo
[07:40] {bruce} your brcm trade worked vad
[07:41] {magoo} LULU frenzuy
[07:41] {dino} stopped vrtx -.44
[07:41] {dino} done w/it
[07:41] {bruce} was just going to say - lulu testing agin
[07:42] {magoo} why don't u?;lol
[07:42] {bruce} just did
[07:42] {dino} wrnc not moving, stop to .91
[07:43] {dino} screw it, to flat
[07:45] {Threei} [09:46] {Threei} pullback into 53 would be best to look for entry mags
[07:45] {Threei} see where it bounced from?
[07:45] {magoo} scalped twice vad
[07:45] {magoo} second was my alert of frenzy @ 55..out now .91
[07:45] {Threei} to the frikking cent
[07:46] {magoo} feels like 57 today
[07:46] {magoo} but not easy
[07:47] {magoo} oops..i mean 58 he he
[07:47] {bruce} going to buy 10 k lulu and hold for day
[07:47] {bruce} oops
[07:47] {bruce} thats a trout for sure
[07:47] {dino} bidu ramp, watch chinas
[07:47] {Threei} BIDU... mama mia
[07:47] {Threei} can this pulp move
[07:48] {bruce} I HATE bidu
[07:48] {magoo} i think LULU proportionately moves better
[07:48] {dino} pulp moves baby
[07:49] {dino} lulu tutu, iran iraq whatever
[07:49] {magoo} pulp can move baby!!!!!!!!
[07:49] {bruce} seed short?
[07:49] {Threei} 55 is next support level to watch for LULU entry
[07:50] {Threei} by daily chart, rather a place top look for bounce bruce
[07:50] {Threei} filled the gap, volume dried up
[07:51] {magoo} 57 before 55 imho
[07:51] {magoo} in .99
[07:52] {Threei} quite possibly
[07:52] {Threei} this one works on both pullbacks and breaks, and you never know which one this particular time, lol
[07:52] {ramvfin2003} VRTX vad?
[07:53] {magoo} [10:52] {magoo} 57 before 55 imho
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {magoo} in .99
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {Threei} quite possibly
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {Threei} this one work
[07:53] {dino} wrnc stopped +.01 whoopie
[07:53] {magoo} OUT
[07:53] {magoo} 57
[07:53] {ramvfin2003} nice mags
[07:53] {markweb} CTSH dino?
[07:53] {Threei} looks like bounce time ram
[07:53] {magoo} [10:48] {magoo} oops..i mean 58 he he
[07:53] {dino} avct hl l .16, whippy
[07:53] {ramvfin2003} where would u enter?
[07:54] {dino} i like it ram
[07:54] {dino} l hl .75
[07:54] {Threei} ALTI?
[07:56] {dino} man that vrtx rinsed me again
[07:59] {magoo} 55 might be now vad
[08:05] {dino} star
[08:05] {magoo} someone kick vad..i have a question
[08:06] {Threei} so ask... why kicking
[08:06] {magoo} keep kickin..he'll wake up
[08:06] {magoo} see
[08:07] {magoo} u got any vodka at the house?
[08:07] {Threei} usually, some
[08:07] {Threei} why, you ran out of?
[08:07] {Threei} see ADBE?
[08:07] {magoo} i like PRGN to 27, any thoughts
[08:07] {Threei} makes new highs but can you play it?
[08:07] {Threei} pullbacks are unreadable
[08:08] {Threei} breakouts don't work and no way to read the entry on pullback
[08:09] {Threei} tough one mags... it had a great chance when we tried it earlier, and failed
[08:09] {magoo} i think if takes 65 we gonna get it
[08:09] {magoo} .65
[08:09] {magoo} aggressive here hl
[08:10] {Threei} stop under .20?
[08:10] {magoo} i will add at .61 and exit ,93
[08:11] {magoo} .14 cause its a half
[08:11] {magoo} no damage
[08:11] {Threei} Raven... any cold war stocks?
[08:11] {magoo} aggressive entry here LULU ...58 comith
[08:11] {Threei} http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4wuPvoZL.NI&refer=home
[08:11] {Threei} get ready for cold war, round 2
[08:12] {magoo} does that mean u moving back to moscow vad??
[08:12] {Threei} let me think about it
[08:12] {Threei} OK, I thought about it
[08:12] {Threei} no
[08:13] {magoo} russian women are very VERY hot
[08:13] {bruce} thats only cause its so damn cold there mags
[08:14] {bruce} in moscow you can cosy up to a ridge for warmth
[08:14] {bruce} fridge
[08:14] {Threei} lol... and polar bears on the streets, right?
[08:14] {bruce} no
[08:14] {bruce} penquins isn't it?
[08:15] {Threei} wrong hemisphere
[08:15] {bruce} we've got the polar bears
[08:15] {bruce} seen it in the beer commercials
[08:15] {bruce} my hemispheres are working toeday
[08:15] {magoo} in more
[08:15] {bruce} arent
[08:16] {bruce} no pressure vad - just find us a nice low risk trade
[08:17] {Threei} not much luck so far today bruce
[08:17] {Threei} maybe early... maybe simply not my day
[08:17] {ramvfin2003} bad day for me :(
[08:17] {bruce} drat
[08:17] {Threei} look at NQ 1 min
[08:18] {Threei} see how irrational and patternless it is?
[08:18] {bruce} looks like a pretty whippy flat day to me
[08:18] {Threei} so, you have market followers and you have momo movers,
[08:18] {Threei} market followers keep shaking you out on a day like this
[08:18] {Threei} which is exactly what they did
[08:19] {Threei} and there are no momo plays so far
[08:19] {bruce} yup - good day to go light
[08:19] {bruce} I'll stop for day if next trade is another stop
[08:19] {dino} star hl s .15
[08:20] {Threei} of course thereare always things like PRGN, BIDU or LULU
[08:20] {magoo} not getting any help from mkt on my PRGN trade vad
[08:20] {Threei} but they are anything but low risk
[08:20] {bruce} I get routinely killed overtrading days like this - trying to get bqack to flat
[08:20] {Threei} that's common mistake bruce
[08:20] {Threei} just accept that some days are not good,
[08:20] {Threei} keep your loss small,
[08:20] {Threei} observe and wait for nice clean mover to appear
[08:21] {dino} ctsh tighten stop to .59
[08:21] {bruce} got you - thats the lan
[08:21] {Threei} and if nothing like that surfaces, simply stay inactive and come back tomorrow
[08:21] {Threei} can't win every day
[08:21] {bruce} exactly
[08:21] {Threei} take it as normal course of things
[08:21] {magoo} stopped LULU..
[08:21] {Threei} look at NQ:
[08:22] {dino} take breaks bruce, walk away for 30 mins.
[08:22] {Threei} moved up on the open,
[08:22] {bruce} eric short?
[08:22] {Threei} consolidated a little,
[08:22] {Threei} failed to break out, dropped, made new low,
[08:22] {dino} not watching eric got me yesterday
[08:22] {Threei} little bounce, new low,
[08:22] {Threei} new bounce takes it all the way to the high, believe it or now
[08:23] {Threei} little pullback, new high
[08:23] {Threei} and what do you know, drop all the way to the low
[08:23] {Threei} day when market tells you "read this!"
[08:24] {bruce} adbe all over again
[08:25] {dino} ok, i know i shouldn't, but hl l vrtx off of .75
[08:28] {bruce} nice move for you dino
[08:29] {markweb} dino! dino! dino!
[08:31] {dino} lol
[08:32] {markweb} sorry for CTSH sloooow:(
[08:33] {magoo} CTDC trying....not in'
[08:33] {magoo} nasty
[08:34] {dino} stop to .91
[08:34] {dino} ctsh is up, no stop hit, no worries bro
[08:35] {markweb} ctsh sold @41.02
[08:37] {Threei} CTDC
[08:37] {dino} out vrtx .30, +.55
[08:37] {ramvfin2003} long on .70 break vad?
[08:37] {markweb} gj
[08:37] {Threei} wow... no way ram
[08:38] {ramvfin2003} k just askin...
[08:38] {Threei} you get in momo movers when they start, not after spike
[08:38] {bruce} wtg dino
[08:38] {dino} ty
[08:39] {esemde} have agreat day everyone...
[08:39] {ramvfin2003} PNC long?
[08:40] {Threei} ese, don't forget to let me know how it goes with scanner
[08:41] {Threei} PNC? 1 dollar down in two bars?
[08:42] {dino} later ese
[08:44] {bruce} see you ese
[08:47] {bruce} vrtx short now dino?
[08:50] {dino} dk,
[08:51] {dino} watch market imo, seems to me its overreacting to a competitors drug thats about 2 years away, but who knows
[08:52] {dino} avct stop to .74
[08:55] {dino} star bstop to .01
[08:55] {ramvfin2003} CTEL moving
[08:57] {dino} ctsh stop to .89
[08:57] {dino} stopped avct -.41
[09:00] {dino} out star slippage +.06
[09:00] {dino} that sucked
[09:00] {dino} out ctsh .90, +.15
[09:01] {dino} brb
[09:04] {Threei} LDK
[09:04] {Threei} OTHER EXECS QUESTIONED CO.'S INVENTORY QUALITY - WSJ
[09:05] {magoo} no avail now
[09:05] {Threei} ione day thing will open at $5
[09:06] {dino} wait for the halt
[09:09] {Threei} this stock has scam written all over it
[09:09] {dino} rrst
[09:09] {dino} thin
[09:10] {ramvfin2003} SDTH?
[09:10] {Threei} risky scalp on momo if breaks
[09:11] {dino} one more spike imo
[09:11] {magoo} LULU more intriguing
[09:11] {dino} can't borrow at cyber
[09:12] {dino} sdth that is
[09:14] {magoo} PRGN stooped f@cker
[09:17] {Threei} 8.33 is now long trigger for SDTH if stays above .20
[09:18] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:18] {ramvfin2003} in .33
[09:19] {magoo} in
[09:19] {ramvfin2003} target VAD?
[09:20] {magoo} i waiting .48
[09:20] {Threei} either scalp closer to .50, or take half and see if it stages next leg
[09:20] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:21] {dino} ipsu
[09:21] {dino} thin
[09:22] {magoo} OUYT TRY vad
[09:23] {Threei} :)
[09:23] {magoo} sheesh..typing
[09:23] {magoo} raven luv that 1
[09:23] {magoo} OUT TY VAD
[09:23] {Threei} that's how I read it
[09:23] {Threei} with years of practice I can understand magooish
[09:23] {dino} magoo ebonics
[09:24] {Threei} CTEL
[09:24] {Threei} 8.50 break, scary as
[09:24] {Threei} as
[09:24] {Threei} use your imagination
[09:25] {magoo} follow magoo..ill lead u thru hell and back
[09:25] {Threei} lol
[09:29] {markweb} seed
[09:29] {markweb} sey
[09:29] {markweb} sry:)
[09:29] {Threei} GILD halt
[09:34] {magoo} news vads?
[09:34] {Threei} on what?
[09:34] {magoo} [12:30] {Threei} GILD halt
[09:34] {Threei} TRADING HALTED; NEWS PENDING- note: earnings report is scheduled for after the close
[09:35] {dino} positive drug opinion eu
[09:38] {Threei} new high ADBE...
[09:38] {Threei} frustrating stock
[09:39] {magoo} but u never called it right?
[09:39] {Threei} not after first stop
[09:40] {magoo} ram..u ok on SDTH?
[09:40] {dino} wrnc l hl .50, stop .19
[09:41] {ramvfin2003} out .48
[09:41] {magoo} keep an eye on LULU...really bothers magoo
[09:41] {magoo} gj
[09:41] {magoo} ram
[09:42] {Threei} CTEL relatively low risk entry here
[09:42] {dino} gj ram, i ditched i took it off screen as no short, hate when only allowed one way to play
[09:42] {magoo} u going in?
[09:42] {Threei} with 7.90 stop
[09:42] {magoo} what u get?
[09:42] {Threei} ,08
[09:43] {magoo} PRGN coiling
[09:43] {magoo} with naz help, gonna gp imho
[09:43] {ramvfin2003} in CTEL
[09:45] {Threei} SDTH new highs
[09:46] {magoo} LULU
[09:46] {ramvfin2003} target on CTEL vad?
[09:46] {Threei} if breaks .60, I'd say somewhere around .75
[09:49] {bruce} ctel in
[09:51] {magoo} in LULU
[09:51] {magoo} 56
[09:56] {ramvfin2003} CTEL needs a shot of vodka..lol
[09:57] {bruce} ctel needs adrenaline
[09:57] {bruce} and maybe large russian boot
[09:57] {dino} so do i
[09:57] {dino} the vodka that is
[09:58] {bruce} go you b@asta@d
[09:58] {bruce} learned that spelling from dino
[09:58] {ramvfin2003} lol
[09:59] {bruce} if ctel doesn't go I will never buy another chinese phone ag@in
[10:00] {Threei} you will have to live without phone then
[10:00] {bruce} I can go back to cans vad
[10:00] {bruce} you know - with string betwen them
[10:01] {Threei} I guess... but where do you think cans and strings are made?
[10:01] {bruce} lol
[10:01] {bruce} da@m
[10:01] {ramvfin2003} good point vad
[10:02] {bruce} sc@ewed
[10:02] {Threei} FED'S PLOSSER: PREFERS TO USE FORWARD LOOKING ECONOMIC MODELS
[10:02] {Threei} oh wow
[10:02] {Threei} wiser and wiser
[10:02] {magoo} as opposed to what/ lol
[10:02] {Threei} here we sit trying to use backward looking ones
[10:02] {bruce} is that where they spend based on 2025 earnings?
[10:03] {bruce} maybe they can borrow from nigeria
[10:04] {Threei} I am not sharing my nigerian riches
[10:04] {bruce} you can charge nigerian interst
[10:05] {bruce} 2100%
[10:05] {Threei} CTDC
[10:05] {ramvfin2003} stpped ctel
[10:05] {Threei} .70 break is scary scalp
[10:06] {magoo} big ooffer .75 vad
[10:06] {bruce} still in - we didn't get .9 yet ram
[10:07] {Threei} you know what happens to those offers when momo hits
[10:11] {bruce} you guys ever get halted in a stock you were in ?
[10:11] {dino} y
[10:11] {Threei} not pleasant experience
[10:12] {bruce} scary stuff
[10:12] {magoo} several
[10:12] {dino} tell you what else sucks, when they break trades
[10:12] {Threei} one side
[10:12] {Threei} yikes
[10:12] {magoo} that happened to me too
[10:13] {dino} last spring, had a 30 pt gain on short, three hours later they break all trades
[10:13] {bruce} geez
[10:13] {Threei} both sides of your trade dino?
[10:13] {bruce} sue the ba@ta@ds
[10:13] {Threei} or just one
[10:14] {Threei} out CTEL
[10:14] {bruce} me too
[10:14] {dino} not worth it, "they" always win
[10:14] {bruce} 3 strikes
[10:14] {bruce} I'm out forday lads
[10:15] {patience} and a lass
[10:15] {Threei} ok guys, now that bruce is out,
[10:15] {Threei} let's make real trades
[10:15] {bruce} exactly
[10:15] {dino} take care bruce
[10:15] {ramvfin2003} im with bruce bad day...need to turn it around
[10:15] {bruce} going to stay guys - just not taking any more tradews
[10:15] {bruce} going to watch you all rack up the wins now
[10:16] {dino} take care ram
[10:17] {Threei} SDTH target hit
[10:17] {Threei} [12:47] {Threei} if breaks .60, I'd say somewhere around .75
[10:17] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:17] {Threei} what?
[10:17] {Threei} one frikin winning trade and I get slkapped?
[10:18] {magoo} what? its only my first one today
[10:19] {dino} hl l vrtx .70
[10:19] {dino} stop .29
[10:24] {Threei} GILD crazy
[10:34] {magoo} go greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnn
[10:35] {ramvfin2003} vad, thoughts on RIO?
[10:35] {magoo} brazil??
[10:36] {magoo} awesome
[10:36] {dino} vrtx stopped, off my screen 1/4 on it
[10:36] {Threei} no thoughts here... break of .80 was a setup, not now
[10:38] {magoo} vad CTDC?
[10:39] {Threei} 9.75 break
[10:39] {magoo} where would u wait? .91 or .07?
[10:40] {Threei} no faintest idea
[10:40] {Threei} both are quite arbitrary
[10:42] {magoo} do u think .91 has a better shot than 07??
[10:42] {magoo} no slap for that??
[10:43] {Threei} sigh... lol
[10:48] {Threei} .51 long GILD if holding above .35
[10:50] {dino} tbsi
[10:51] {magoo} market power up comith
[10:53] {dino} asbc
[10:57] {magoo} green
[10:57] {magoo} both
[10:57] {Threei} that 1.85% works
[10:57] {magoo} fasten trading helmet..buckle up trading chair seatbelt
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} .51 on GILD vad?
[10:58] {Threei} no
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} i missed it didnt i, the first time
[10:58] {magoo} no..it invalidated'
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:59] {Threei} you didn't
[10:59] {Threei} it never triggered and lost support
[10:59] {ramvfin2003} NVDA long?
[10:59] {magoo} ram..take 200 shares of LULU ..56
[10:59] {magoo} RISKI
[11:00] {magoo} stop 55.49..$250 bux or we ride it to 57.76
[11:02] {Threei} ZVUE?
[11:02] {magoo} RISKY tho...mkt sux today
[11:04] {Threei} don't you hate it, ADBE
[11:04] {Threei} identified it as all day climber and never found the way to play it
[11:05] {magoo} wait vad...i on the phone being abused by ADBE
[11:05] {Threei} don't even think of giving it my phone number
[11:05] {bruce} thats one of those buy 100 on open and hold all day vad
[11:05] {dino} wrnc stop to .74
[11:05] {bruce} lol
[11:06] {magoo} ADBE just insulted my mama.sheesh
[11:06] {dino} thats just wrong
[11:07] {bruce} put it in dpf for them mags
[11:07] {ramvfin2003} STV long?
[11:07] {Threei} ?
[11:07] {Threei} why?
[11:07] {dino} hate to do it buys, but hard stopping bidu at 320, don't want goog earning to screw it up afterhours
[11:07] {Threei} what do you see on STV?
[11:09] {dino} out wrnc .74, +.24
[11:13] {dino} out bidu from other day +5.46
[11:13] {Threei} wtg
[11:14] {dino} not really, chickened out.
[11:14] {Threei} +5 is +5, however you slice it
[11:15] {dino} magoo only allows the day trades to count, my swings are no good (although my acct likes them)
[11:15] {magoo} does not count
[11:15] {dino} see
[11:15] {Threei} count for what? determine who is bringing beer today?
[11:15] {magoo} BINGO
[11:15] {magoo} and pizza
[11:16] {dino} me
[11:17] {Threei} HMIN
[11:17] {Threei} ummm... risky as hell
[11:17] {magoo} IN
[11:17] {magoo} OOPS...which way
[11:18] {Threei} lol
[11:18] {magoo} i just saw 2 key words...risky...hell
[11:19] {ramvfin2003} stop on HMIN?
[11:20] {Threei} I don't even know what the play is...
[11:21] {ramvfin2003} k
[11:23] {Threei} you in CTDC magoo?
[11:23] {magoo} yes
[11:24] {dino} chke drop
[11:24] {magoo} in .64
[11:24] {magoo} waiting .965
[11:25] {magoo} .95
[11:29] {dino} cavm
[11:34] {Threei} ASTI pulled back into support
[11:35] {magoo} we need mkt help
[11:35] {Threei} half lot long around here, stop is under 18.70, if breaks 19.30 can move into .50 and 20 is not out of question
[11:37] {dino} cavm hl l .08, stop .74
[11:37] {magoo} in vad
[11:39] {magoo} if it fails...u gonna smell fishy LOL
[11:43] {Threei} look at GEOI
[11:44] {magoo} u spotted it 2 days ago...u take any?
[11:44] {Threei} scalped
[11:44] {magoo} i waiting .95 CTDC
[11:44] {Threei} couldn't bear with its volatility
[11:47] {ramvfin2003} come on ASTI..papa needs a winner today
[11:48] {dino} lol
[11:48] {dino} "new shoes"
[11:49] {magoo} i gotta pee soooo bad...but everytime i leave desk market tanks
[11:49] {Threei} stay put then
[11:49] {dino} cavm stop to .09, mkt dropping
[11:49] {dino} stopped +.01
[11:49] {magoo} nice dino
[11:49] {magoo} OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[11:49] {dino} i know, but better than down
[11:50] {dino} a flash just ran down the hall
[11:51] {Threei} lol
[11:51] {ramvfin2003} ha
[11:51] {dino} ctct, thin
[11:52] {Threei} break that wall ASTI
[11:53] {dino} ram, i should close my door so i don't see thoise flashes
[11:53] *** Disconnected
Session Close: Thu Oct 18 11:53:50 2007
Session Start: Thu Oct 18 12:06:48 2007
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[12:07] {Threei} ok, that was a joke, just to make sure everyone knows:
[12:07] {Threei} [13:15] {Threei} ok guys, now that bruce is out, let's make real trades
[12:07] {magoo} i just reloaded ASTI .58
[12:07] {magoo} waiting .91
[12:07] {ramvfin2003} VFC movin
[12:08] {magoo} u still got 1/4 vad?
[12:08] {Threei} yes sir
[12:08] {Threei} I believe in 20
[12:08] {Threei} and I have ASTIZ as well
[12:08] {magoo} entry?
[12:08] {ramvfin2003} u think 10 on the z's?\
[12:09] {Threei} not sure on 10
[12:09] {Threei} depends
[12:09] {Threei} 9.16 mags
[12:09] {magoo} all out vad
[12:09] {magoo} asked patience for some
[12:09] {magoo} [15:10] {Threei} depends
[12:09] {Threei} out half 9.35
[12:09] {Threei} lol... I am slow today
[12:10] {Threei} I take severe umbrage in number of vital parts enlargement e-mails I am getting these days... someone is trying to tell me something
[12:10] {magoo} if IF LULU takes .25..we got 57
[12:11] {magoo} in
[12:11] {magoo} kicking it
[12:11] {magoo} ouch..kicked me nback
[12:13] {magoo} vad..2x4 it please
[12:13] {Threei} on LULU?
[12:13] {magoo} yep
[12:13] {bruce} good to see everyon making money now
[12:13] {Threei} no can do magoo
[12:13] {magoo} hit it correct duirection
[12:14] {Threei} with this this name, no rude behavior
[12:14] {Threei} sorry bruce
[12:14] {Threei} but you did the right thing
[12:14] {magoo} oh sh#t...
[12:14] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {Threei} hmm... good idea actually
[12:15] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {bruce} agreed vad
[12:15] {Threei} look... recovery after a nasty beginning of the day requires a lot of skill and ability to emotionally detach yourself
[12:16] {Threei} ability to trade with no emotional baggage of earlier stops
[12:16] {cosmo} there's meds too
[12:16] {Threei} so this baggage doesn't make you jump on opportunities that are not there
[12:16] {Threei} always cos
[12:16] {Threei} but I run out
[12:17] {Threei} biggest danger at that point is exactly this:
[12:17] {dino} wow cavm down move
[12:17] {Threei} you confuse wishful thinking for real opportunity
[12:17] {bruce} lol cosmo
[12:18] {bruce} I'm sticking w beer
[12:18] {Threei} desire to get revenge makes you push hard when there is nothing
[12:18] {bruce} what revenge?
[12:18] {bruce} I've already got 3 cans strung
[12:19] {Threei} made in...?
[12:19] {bruce} beans cans
[12:19] {dino} lol
[12:19] {bruce} of course
[12:21] {cosmo} i like to get my cans from Norway
[12:22] {bruce} oh?
[12:22] {bruce} tjpse the sardine ones?
[12:22] {bruce} too small for trout
[12:22] {cosmo} good metal work
[12:23] {dino} cos, you're getting old
[12:23] {bruce} Ididn't know that
[12:23] {dino} :)
[12:23] {bruce} prefer the ones without rust
[12:23] {Threei} but they weld them shut cos
[12:24] {cosmo} vikings took them all over the world and really confused modern scholars
[12:24] {dino} now thats a memory, viking beers
[12:25] {magoo} frat days dino
[12:26] {dino} indeed
[12:26] {dino} long time ago.......
[12:27] {cosmo} the 'past' is just another hoax
[12:28] {Threei} that last little piece of ASTI I have, stop is .24
[12:28] {Threei} there is no past cos?
[12:29] {cosmo} there was no past?
[12:30] {Threei} I knew it... now, can you help me expose gravity as another fraud?
[12:30] {cosmo} the universe is actually falling up
[12:31] {cosmo} in every direction
[12:31] {cosmo} there was no big bang
[12:31] {Threei} not even small one?
[12:32] {ramvfin2003} CECO why movin?
[12:32] {Threei} looking, can't see anything of significance
[12:32] {Threei} the pnly piece of news I see is ridiculous
[12:33] {Threei} SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF THE COMMISSION ON COLLEGES OF THE SOUTHERN ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS ("SACS") COMPLETED ITS SCHEDULED VISITS TO FOUR AMERICAN INTERCONTINENTAL UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES ON OCTOBER 17, 2007. - FILING- At the conclusion of the visits, the Special Committee informed AIU that its final report to SACS would contain no recommendations for further corrective action.
[12:33] {Threei} CFC
[12:33] {Threei} SEN SCHUMER URGING SEC PROBE OF CEO. TO INCLUDE CO
[12:34] {dino} ceco
[12:34] {magoo} 3 points CECO
[12:35] {dino} scor 300 filled s .80
[12:35] {dino} 390\
[12:36] {dino} cov scor .47, +.33
[12:38] {Threei} SEED, reversal from where I said it would
[12:39] {Threei} [10:50] {Threei} by daily chart, rather a place top look for bounce bruce
[12:39] {Threei} [10:51] {Threei} filled the gap, volume dried up
[12:41] {magoo} LULU finally
[12:43] {bruce} thanx vadster
[12:44] {Threei} welcome... but for what?
[12:44] {bruce} info on bounce
[12:45] {Threei} out last portuion ASTI .98
[12:45] {dino} vad the hard azz today
[12:45] {Threei} today?
[12:46] {Threei} 20 ASTI, as told
[12:46] {Threei} ASTIZ, start looking for exit ram
[12:46] {Threei} I think it's time
[12:47] {Threei} too close to eod
[12:47] {ramvfin2003} sold 1/2 @ .35 and the rest @ .05 :(
[12:47] {dino} ceco s hl .41
[12:47] {Threei} ASTI will be a matter of interest for tomorrow as well
[12:48] {dino} damn, didn't think it would get there
[12:48] {dino} strange days
[12:49] {Threei} offering balance ASTIZ 9.90
[12:49] {dino} stop is .77
[12:49] {Threei} won't let it go under .50 on me
[12:49] {magoo} out ASTI 20.30
[12:49] {magoo} from my .58
[12:49] {magoo} nuice vad
[12:49] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:50] {dino} stopped -.41 slippage
[12:52] {Threei} OK guys, I am beat
[12:52] {Threei} thank you all
[12:52] {Threei} have a good evening
[12:52] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[12:52] {magoo} u not waiting for goog vad?
[12:52] {dino} f'in ceco, rinse
[12:52] {Threei} no
[12:52] {Threei} I don't care
[12:53] {dino} rick s .87
[12:53] {bruce} night you guys
[12:58] {dptl} see ya tomorrow all.....have a good evening
[12:59] {dino} cov rick .82, +.05 ugh
[13:01] {dino} take care all, a bit light today
Session Close: Fri Oct 19 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Thu Oct 18 00:00:00 2007
[05:04] {bruce} gm all
[05:40] {cosmo} LOGI should hold 33.50
[05:40] {cosmo} ... or its nap time
[05:41] {Threei} any time is nap time
[05:41] {Threei} morning :)
[05:41] {cosmo} yes... even in the morning
[05:41] {Threei} especially in the morning
[05:42] {Threei} but, you realize if you said evening or afternoon I'd say the same
[05:42] {cosmo} its a 24 hour world these days
[05:43] {bruce} ebay gave up all its post market frenzy gains
[05:43] {cosmo} 24 hours of morning... somewhere...
[05:43] {Threei} yeah, what's up EBAY
[05:43] {Threei} contradicting upgrades/downgrades
[05:44] {Threei} 3 upgrades including GS, 2 downgrades
[05:44] {bruce} kind of looks like it - didn't even hold closing price
[05:45] {Threei} GOAM prints near yeste high
[05:47] {bruce} you think logi is a long for day cosmo?
[05:48] {cosmo} hmmm .... long zzzz, maybe
[05:48] {bruce} k
[05:49] {bruce} vad - have you considered doing more all - day trades?
[05:49] {cosmo} i'll sleep on it, bruce
[05:49] {bruce} target trades with a high probability of move in one direction
[05:49] {bruce} then buy small on open and hold for day
[05:50] {cosmo} a day is a long time
[05:50] {bruce} too long you think?
[05:50] {Threei} I need to see a reason for putting such trade on
[05:50] {bruce} SOME STOCKS TREND ALL DAY
[05:50] {Threei} some do, some don't,
[05:50] {Threei} question is
[05:50] {bruce} I have trouble identifying them though
[05:50] {Threei} as stock moves, read changes, right?
[05:51] {bruce} yes
[05:51] {Threei} so, how can you assign the target in time terms instead of character of the move terms?
[05:51] {Threei} I mean, you decide this one is all day hold,
[05:51] {bruce} don't know - just thought there might be setups that identify strong trend potential
[05:52] {Threei} then you see parabolic move, verticla explosion obviously setting a stage for euphoria-selloff cycle
[05:52] {dptl} good morning all
[05:52] {Threei} will you continue holding because you decided it's a day hold
[05:52] {Threei} or will you react on the character of the move?
[05:52] {Threei} dp :)
[05:52] {bruce} hi dp
[05:53] {bruce} I thought maybe day patterns could identify potential day trenders
[05:53] {Threei} it's just a matter of time frame in which you read the charts
[05:53] {bruce} but I think I hear you sayingmost moves are too erratic during a day for that
[05:54] {Threei} you can go ahead and identify trends in intraday time frame, or daily, or monthly
[05:54] {bruce} better to just grab moves while they are moving in one direction and get out
[05:54] {Threei} this is what I do
[05:54] {Threei} in order to do what you say I would need to change EVERYTHING
[05:54] {Threei} whole approach to trading
[05:55] {cosmo} use fundamentals?
[05:55] {Threei} mine has shaped up under the influence of zillion factors
[05:55] {Threei} risk tolerance most of all
[05:55] {Threei} the longer your exposure to the market is the bigger your risk
[05:56] {Threei} method of reading I apply looks at what's happening in fron of your eyes and governs your reaction
[05:56] {Threei} thus picking up the easiest money
[05:56] {Threei} and getting out before weather changes
[05:57] {Threei} of course now and then I identify longer time frame trends,
[05:57] {cosmo} NKTR
[05:58] {Threei} as in recent example with rally call around 09/12
[05:58] {Threei} but that is to help find the right trades
[05:58] {Threei} in my time frame
[05:58] {Threei} rather than trade that time ferame
[05:58] {magoo} morn
[05:58] {Threei} magoo :)
[05:59] {bruce} hey magoo
[06:00] {bruce} thanks vad - just exploring diferent ways to trade profitably
[06:00] {esemde} good morning all....
[06:00] {Threei} ese :)
[06:00] {Threei} ese, look your e-mail please
[06:00] {esemde} got your email yesterday Vad
[06:00] {bruce} still learning your strategy - not easy money for me
[06:00] {Threei} cool, let me know
[06:00] {bruce} howdy ese
[06:00] {esemde} bruce
[06:01] {cosmo} NKTR: Nektar stock drops after Pfizer pulls plug on drug
[06:01] {Threei} as you observe the trades I call bruce... try to identfy the decision factors, ask questions
[06:01] {Threei} it's really nothing complicated
[06:01] {bruce} working on it vad
[06:01] {bruce} thanks
[06:01] {esemde} will do...... have not been much of a participant this week everyone...big tech problems
[06:02] {bruce} sorry to ask so many questions
[06:02] {bruce} getting there though I think
[06:02] {Threei} don't be sorry... ask'em
[06:02] {Threei} ese, other problems aside of this scanner one?
[06:05] {Threei} bruce... for longer time frame trades watch roman, he does a lot of those,
[06:05] {esemde} yes....the trading vehicle keeps shutting down...
[06:05] {Threei} but my thinking is, you are looking for alternative before mastering one
[06:05] {Threei} that's not focused approach
[06:06] {Threei} learn one, expand your horizons after if there is a need/want
[06:06] {esemde} it could be the way my computor is configed....but everthing else works
[06:06] {Threei} hmm ese... sounds like this scanner issue just a symptom of bigger one then
[06:07] {bruce} thanx vad
[06:07] {esemde} funny thing is....i restored my computor to a previous state and the old trading vehicle worked..
[06:08] {Threei} so their upgraded version is flawed looks like
[06:08] {esemde} this new one that they have doesn't....hmmmmmis it ...or is it not my computor then....hmmmm
[06:08] {Threei} sounds like that tome
[06:08] {cosmo} ese: i had a support tech tell me once this problem could be spiritual ...fwiw
[06:09] {esemde} spiritual......nice....all in my mind......as i watch profitable trades go by...FOR REAL
[06:10] {cosmo} i can emphasize
[06:10] {Threei} try what our support suggested ese... to narrow down the problem
[06:11] {Threei} empathize cos?
[06:11] {cosmo} hmm
[06:12] {cosmo} spelling? ....that's raven's job i thot
[06:13] {Threei} yes, I am baiting him
[06:13] {magoo} obsevation here....yhoo popped after earnings 3 points....gave all back and some next morn
[06:14] {magoo} ebay pops 3 pts...gave all back next morn
[06:14] {magoo} are u with me?
[06:14] {bruce} lol - yes - typed that 30 mins ago mags
[06:14] {Threei} yes but we are deweply distrubed by this
[06:15] {dino} gm all
[06:15] {magoo} last qtr...bidu poped 30 pts..i shorted it next morn and got it all back
[06:15] {magoo} hhhhmmmm
[06:15] {Threei} dino :)
[06:15] {bruce} hi dino
[06:15] {magoo} mkt xtended...the tone is becoming a pop and drop
[06:16] {bruce} thats what id did yesterday for mostpart - quick moves
[06:16] {markweb} gm all
[06:16] {bruce} lulu was an exception - kept rising
[06:16] {bruce} hey mark
[06:16] {Threei} mark :)
[06:17] {Raven} {-------- overloaded with bad grammer and misspelled words ... arghhh ... GM
[06:17] {Threei} sorry R
[06:17] {cosmo} me too
[06:17] {Threei} but we can't help it
[06:17] {cosmo} i try
[06:18] {Raven} sigh
[06:21] {bruce} hi raven
[06:21] {Raven} hey bruce
[06:21] {bruce} maybe add a spell ceck vad
[06:21] {bruce} lol
[06:21] {bruce} check
[06:22] {Threei} why
[06:22] {Threei} to kill all the fun?
[06:22] {Threei} and to make Raven's life boring?
[06:23] {Threei} magoo with good spelling - won't it feel very unnatural?
[06:23] {Raven} oh sigh ... too much blabber in here ... results in too many errors
[06:23] {magoo} d;odgjk;dj
[06:23] {Raven} magoo is so bad I sometimes use "ignore"
[06:24] {magoo} aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh come on????
[06:24] {Raven} oh ... hi ma a gog gogooooooo
[06:24] {bruce} are you choking raven
[06:24] {bruce} ?
[06:24] {Raven} at times
[06:24] {bruce} someone call a paramedic
[06:24] {cosmo} LOGI
[06:25] {cosmo} looks testy
[06:25] {Threei} [09:24] {magoo} d;odgjk;dj {--- that's magoo we know and appreciate
[06:26] {magoo} thats russian vad, what i say to enlighten roiom
[06:27] {Raven} roiom
[06:27] {dino} bruce good questions this a.m., don't be afraid to ask.
[06:27] {Raven} moior
[06:28] {bruce} you can offer an english grammer add -on subscription feature vad
[06:29] {Threei} and spiritual consulting for computer problems?
[06:29] {bruce} good idea
[06:30] {bruce} maybe add a computer psychic too
[06:30] {cosmo} :)
[06:30] {bruce} ebay short?
[06:31] {Threei} let it establish something
[06:31] {ramvfin2003} NVDA?
[06:31] {dino} just need an easy button bruce
[06:31] {ramvfin2003} wife works for staples corp...can get u a ton of easy buttons..lol
[06:31] {bruce} me too dino
[06:32] {bruce} thats another add- on
[06:35] {Threei} JNPR short half lot .90 breakdown
[06:36] {Threei} over 37.15 invalidated
[06:36] {Threei} see GEOI?
[06:37] {bruce} bac short?
[06:37] {magoo} vad..look at volume
[06:37] {magoo} that was roman entirely
[06:37] {Threei} lol
[06:38] {Threei} BAC, I would short 48 break
[06:39] {Threei} JNPR is two-sided setup
[06:39] {Threei} breakout is long
[06:39] {ramvfin2003} break of .14 is long on JNPR vad?
[06:39] {Threei} yes
[06:39] {Threei} half lot
[06:40] {dino} avct
[06:40] {Threei} .99 stop JNPR
[06:43] {bruce} jnpr .17 l
[06:43] {esemde} PLCM.....
[06:45] {magoo} LULU continues vad
[06:45] {bruce} missed bac entry
[06:45] {Threei} and looks breaky
[06:45] {magoo} OY
[06:46] {Threei} pullback into 53 would be best to look for entry mags
[06:46] {Threei} GOAM on the move
[06:46] {Threei} Roman was right
[06:46] {bruce} logi took off
[06:48] {Threei} BAC CFO: CDO PIPELINE 'SLIGHTLY MORE' THAN $1B - CONF CALL
[06:49] {dino} need a top on it
[06:50] {bruce} stopped jnpr
[06:50] {Threei} yup
[06:50] {ramvfin2003} topped JNPR
[06:51] {bruce} next
[06:51] {magoo} stoped jnpr a
[06:52] {bruce} wm short?
[06:52] {Threei} CTDC
[06:52] {dino} fonr hl s .55, risky
[06:53] {dino} bstop .82
[06:53] {Threei} 30 breakdown, but this is scary one bruce
[06:53] {Threei} volatile
[06:53] {bruce} see that - big stop - going to pass
[06:54] {dino} hl l vrtx .80, stop .46
[06:55] {dino} forn stopped slips -.35
[06:55] {ramvfin2003} AVCI?
[06:56] {Threei} BRCM half lot aggressive short with stop just above 42
[06:56] {dino} stopped vrtx -.33
[06:56] {Threei} first sign of weakness from here BRCM
[06:57] {Threei} no read on AVCI, wierd one
[06:57] {Threei} ADBE
[06:57] {Threei} .33 long
[06:58] {Threei} .19 stop
[06:58] {ramvfin2003} in .33
[06:59] {Threei} BRCM invaliadted over 42
[07:00] {Threei} SEPT LEADING INDICATORS: 0.3% V 0.3%E
[07:00] {Threei} IRAQ STOPPING OIL DUE TO FULL STORAGE TANKS
[07:01] {cosmo} ... that figures
[07:02] {Threei} anyone got BRCM?
[07:02] {magoo} i in
[07:02] {magoo} .93
[07:03] {bruce} missed entry
[07:03] {bruce} tried .93
[07:05] {Threei} cover half BRCM
[07:06] {Threei} stop to .85
[07:08] {ramvfin2003} VRTX?
[07:10] {Threei} NVDA .75 short, .86 stop
[07:11] {cosmo} adbe
[07:11] {Threei} ADBE is nice candidate for trend but NQ action keeps it down
[07:12] {cosmo} adbe patiently waits for reversal
[07:14] {dino} wrnc hl l .02
[07:15] {dino} avct l hl .35
[07:17] {dino} good spot vrtx ram
[07:17] {ramvfin2003} RIO?
[07:17] {Threei} what's with PRGN
[07:18] {bruce} was stop 28.45 avct dino?
[07:18] {dino} wierd moves today
[07:19] {dino} getting rinsed, if following, i'm widening careful
[07:19] {bruce} just curious _ didn't take it - support looke3d too far away
[07:20] {dino} bruce, i'm long l=long
[07:20] {dino} should've sdhorted, lol
[07:20] {bruce} yup
[07:21] {Threei} INFY
[07:21] {bruce} how would you set stop for avct long trade?
[07:21] {Threei} INDIAN FIN MIN SAYS NO INTENTION OF IMPOSING CAPITAL CONTROLS ON CAPITAL FLOWS
[07:21] {dino} wide, lol, it's whipping, go smaller size and wider stop, can't use the hard as it will rinse
[07:22] {bruce} k
[07:22] {bruce} thought it would need to be pretty big
[07:22] {dino} like pulp
[07:22] {bruce} so you watch price action and make judgement call when in?
[07:23] {dino} y
[07:23] {dino} but don't let it kill you
[07:23] {bruce} k
[07:24] {cosmo} .....so, is India 'lese faire'?
[07:25] {dino} indians in the series i believe
[07:25] {bruce} adbe long?
[07:26] {Threei} it's a slowly trending one... tough read for me
[07:26] {bruce} k - passing then
[07:26] {Threei} one of those that can climb slowly whole day
[07:26] {Threei} but finding entries is tough on them
[07:27] {cosmo} but its a good investment
[07:27] {bruce} lol cosmo
[07:28] {bruce} thats what brokers say when you get rinsed
[07:28] {Threei} PRGN, half lot long on .50 break
[07:28] {bruce} next line is double up
[07:28] {Threei} stop under .30
[07:28] {Threei} can go to 27 easily
[07:28] {magoo} in prgn
[07:29] {dino} cramer pick last night prgn
[07:30] {Threei} EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: +39 BCF VS. + 55 TO +60 BCF EXPECTED RANGE
[07:31] {Threei} come on cramerites, buy it
[07:31] {magoo} we need him to mentiobn it today
[07:33] {bruce} prgn in .43
[07:34] {Threei} NQ just can't make up its mind today
[07:35] {dino} vrtx interesting now
[07:36] {dino} bruce avct stop tto .19
[07:36] {dino} hard
[07:36] {magoo} nvda valid??
[07:37] {bruce} stopped
[07:37] {dino} risky, hl l vrtx .60
[07:37] {Threei} backing off for now, nothing workas
[07:38] {dino} avct stop to .75
[07:39] {bruce} thanks dino
[07:39] {ramvfin2003} NTES?
[07:39] {dino} out avct .79, +.44
[07:40] {dino} np, gj
[07:40] {dino} pullback to .25ish imo
[07:40] {bruce} your brcm trade worked vad
[07:41] {magoo} LULU frenzuy
[07:41] {dino} stopped vrtx -.44
[07:41] {dino} done w/it
[07:41] {bruce} was just going to say - lulu testing agin
[07:42] {magoo} why don't u?;lol
[07:42] {bruce} just did
[07:42] {dino} wrnc not moving, stop to .91
[07:43] {dino} screw it, to flat
[07:45] {Threei} [09:46] {Threei} pullback into 53 would be best to look for entry mags
[07:45] {Threei} see where it bounced from?
[07:45] {magoo} scalped twice vad
[07:45] {magoo} second was my alert of frenzy @ 55..out now .91
[07:45] {Threei} to the frikking cent
[07:46] {magoo} feels like 57 today
[07:46] {magoo} but not easy
[07:47] {magoo} oops..i mean 58 he he
[07:47] {bruce} going to buy 10 k lulu and hold for day
[07:47] {bruce} oops
[07:47] {bruce} thats a trout for sure
[07:47] {dino} bidu ramp, watch chinas
[07:47] {Threei} BIDU... mama mia
[07:47] {Threei} can this pulp move
[07:48] {bruce} I HATE bidu
[07:48] {magoo} i think LULU proportionately moves better
[07:48] {dino} pulp moves baby
[07:49] {dino} lulu tutu, iran iraq whatever
[07:49] {magoo} pulp can move baby!!!!!!!!
[07:49] {bruce} seed short?
[07:49] {Threei} 55 is next support level to watch for LULU entry
[07:50] {Threei} by daily chart, rather a place top look for bounce bruce
[07:50] {Threei} filled the gap, volume dried up
[07:51] {magoo} 57 before 55 imho
[07:51] {magoo} in .99
[07:52] {Threei} quite possibly
[07:52] {Threei} this one works on both pullbacks and breaks, and you never know which one this particular time, lol
[07:52] {ramvfin2003} VRTX vad?
[07:53] {magoo} [10:52] {magoo} 57 before 55 imho
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {magoo} in .99
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {Threei} quite possibly
[07:53] {magoo} [10:53] {Threei} this one work
[07:53] {dino} wrnc stopped +.01 whoopie
[07:53] {magoo} OUT
[07:53] {magoo} 57
[07:53] {ramvfin2003} nice mags
[07:53] {markweb} CTSH dino?
[07:53] {Threei} looks like bounce time ram
[07:53] {magoo} [10:48] {magoo} oops..i mean 58 he he
[07:53] {dino} avct hl l .16, whippy
[07:53] {ramvfin2003} where would u enter?
[07:54] {dino} i like it ram
[07:54] {dino} l hl .75
[07:54] {Threei} ALTI?
[07:56] {dino} man that vrtx rinsed me again
[07:59] {magoo} 55 might be now vad
[08:05] {dino} star
[08:05] {magoo} someone kick vad..i have a question
[08:06] {Threei} so ask... why kicking
[08:06] {magoo} keep kickin..he'll wake up
[08:06] {magoo} see
[08:07] {magoo} u got any vodka at the house?
[08:07] {Threei} usually, some
[08:07] {Threei} why, you ran out of?
[08:07] {Threei} see ADBE?
[08:07] {magoo} i like PRGN to 27, any thoughts
[08:07] {Threei} makes new highs but can you play it?
[08:07] {Threei} pullbacks are unreadable
[08:08] {Threei} breakouts don't work and no way to read the entry on pullback
[08:09] {Threei} tough one mags... it had a great chance when we tried it earlier, and failed
[08:09] {magoo} i think if takes 65 we gonna get it
[08:09] {magoo} .65
[08:09] {magoo} aggressive here hl
[08:10] {Threei} stop under .20?
[08:10] {magoo} i will add at .61 and exit ,93
[08:11] {magoo} .14 cause its a half
[08:11] {magoo} no damage
[08:11] {Threei} Raven... any cold war stocks?
[08:11] {magoo} aggressive entry here LULU ...58 comith
[08:11] {Threei} http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4wuPvoZL.NI&refer=home
[08:11] {Threei} get ready for cold war, round 2
[08:12] {magoo} does that mean u moving back to moscow vad??
[08:12] {Threei} let me think about it
[08:12] {Threei} OK, I thought about it
[08:12] {Threei} no
[08:13] {magoo} russian women are very VERY hot
[08:13] {bruce} thats only cause its so damn cold there mags
[08:14] {bruce} in moscow you can cosy up to a ridge for warmth
[08:14] {bruce} fridge
[08:14] {Threei} lol... and polar bears on the streets, right?
[08:14] {bruce} no
[08:14] {bruce} penquins isn't it?
[08:15] {Threei} wrong hemisphere
[08:15] {bruce} we've got the polar bears
[08:15] {bruce} seen it in the beer commercials
[08:15] {bruce} my hemispheres are working toeday
[08:15] {magoo} in more
[08:15] {bruce} arent
[08:16] {bruce} no pressure vad - just find us a nice low risk trade
[08:17] {Threei} not much luck so far today bruce
[08:17] {Threei} maybe early... maybe simply not my day
[08:17] {ramvfin2003} bad day for me :(
[08:17] {bruce} drat
[08:17] {Threei} look at NQ 1 min
[08:18] {Threei} see how irrational and patternless it is?
[08:18] {bruce} looks like a pretty whippy flat day to me
[08:18] {Threei} so, you have market followers and you have momo movers,
[08:18] {Threei} market followers keep shaking you out on a day like this
[08:18] {Threei} which is exactly what they did
[08:19] {Threei} and there are no momo plays so far
[08:19] {bruce} yup - good day to go light
[08:19] {bruce} I'll stop for day if next trade is another stop
[08:19] {dino} star hl s .15
[08:20] {Threei} of course thereare always things like PRGN, BIDU or LULU
[08:20] {magoo} not getting any help from mkt on my PRGN trade vad
[08:20] {Threei} but they are anything but low risk
[08:20] {bruce} I get routinely killed overtrading days like this - trying to get bqack to flat
[08:20] {Threei} that's common mistake bruce
[08:20] {Threei} just accept that some days are not good,
[08:20] {Threei} keep your loss small,
[08:20] {Threei} observe and wait for nice clean mover to appear
[08:21] {dino} ctsh tighten stop to .59
[08:21] {bruce} got you - thats the lan
[08:21] {Threei} and if nothing like that surfaces, simply stay inactive and come back tomorrow
[08:21] {Threei} can't win every day
[08:21] {bruce} exactly
[08:21] {Threei} take it as normal course of things
[08:21] {magoo} stopped LULU..
[08:21] {Threei} look at NQ:
[08:22] {dino} take breaks bruce, walk away for 30 mins.
[08:22] {Threei} moved up on the open,
[08:22] {bruce} eric short?
[08:22] {Threei} consolidated a little,
[08:22] {Threei} failed to break out, dropped, made new low,
[08:22] {dino} not watching eric got me yesterday
[08:22] {Threei} little bounce, new low,
[08:22] {Threei} new bounce takes it all the way to the high, believe it or now
[08:23] {Threei} little pullback, new high
[08:23] {Threei} and what do you know, drop all the way to the low
[08:23] {Threei} day when market tells you "read this!"
[08:24] {bruce} adbe all over again
[08:25] {dino} ok, i know i shouldn't, but hl l vrtx off of .75
[08:28] {bruce} nice move for you dino
[08:29] {markweb} dino! dino! dino!
[08:31] {dino} lol
[08:32] {markweb} sorry for CTSH sloooow:(
[08:33] {magoo} CTDC trying....not in'
[08:33] {magoo} nasty
[08:34] {dino} stop to .91
[08:34] {dino} ctsh is up, no stop hit, no worries bro
[08:35] {markweb} ctsh sold @41.02
[08:37] {Threei} CTDC
[08:37] {dino} out vrtx .30, +.55
[08:37] {ramvfin2003} long on .70 break vad?
[08:37] {markweb} gj
[08:37] {Threei} wow... no way ram
[08:38] {ramvfin2003} k just askin...
[08:38] {Threei} you get in momo movers when they start, not after spike
[08:38] {bruce} wtg dino
[08:38] {dino} ty
[08:39] {esemde} have agreat day everyone...
[08:39] {ramvfin2003} PNC long?
[08:40] {Threei} ese, don't forget to let me know how it goes with scanner
[08:41] {Threei} PNC? 1 dollar down in two bars?
[08:42] {dino} later ese
[08:44] {bruce} see you ese
[08:47] {bruce} vrtx short now dino?
[08:50] {dino} dk,
[08:51] {dino} watch market imo, seems to me its overreacting to a competitors drug thats about 2 years away, but who knows
[08:52] {dino} avct stop to .74
[08:55] {dino} star bstop to .01
[08:55] {ramvfin2003} CTEL moving
[08:57] {dino} ctsh stop to .89
[08:57] {dino} stopped avct -.41
[09:00] {dino} out star slippage +.06
[09:00] {dino} that sucked
[09:00] {dino} out ctsh .90, +.15
[09:01] {dino} brb
[09:04] {Threei} LDK
[09:04] {Threei} OTHER EXECS QUESTIONED CO.'S INVENTORY QUALITY - WSJ
[09:05] {magoo} no avail now
[09:05] {Threei} ione day thing will open at $5
[09:06] {dino} wait for the halt
[09:09] {Threei} this stock has scam written all over it
[09:09] {dino} rrst
[09:09] {dino} thin
[09:10] {ramvfin2003} SDTH?
[09:10] {Threei} risky scalp on momo if breaks
[09:11] {dino} one more spike imo
[09:11] {magoo} LULU more intriguing
[09:11] {dino} can't borrow at cyber
[09:12] {dino} sdth that is
[09:14] {magoo} PRGN stooped f@cker
[09:17] {Threei} 8.33 is now long trigger for SDTH if stays above .20
[09:18] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:18] {ramvfin2003} in .33
[09:19] {magoo} in
[09:19] {ramvfin2003} target VAD?
[09:20] {magoo} i waiting .48
[09:20] {Threei} either scalp closer to .50, or take half and see if it stages next leg
[09:20] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:21] {dino} ipsu
[09:21] {dino} thin
[09:22] {magoo} OUYT TRY vad
[09:23] {Threei} :)
[09:23] {magoo} sheesh..typing
[09:23] {magoo} raven luv that 1
[09:23] {magoo} OUT TY VAD
[09:23] {Threei} that's how I read it
[09:23] {Threei} with years of practice I can understand magooish
[09:23] {dino} magoo ebonics
[09:24] {Threei} CTEL
[09:24] {Threei} 8.50 break, scary as
[09:24] {Threei} as
[09:24] {Threei} use your imagination
[09:25] {magoo} follow magoo..ill lead u thru hell and back
[09:25] {Threei} lol
[09:29] {markweb} seed
[09:29] {markweb} sey
[09:29] {markweb} sry:)
[09:29] {Threei} GILD halt
[09:34] {magoo} news vads?
[09:34] {Threei} on what?
[09:34] {magoo} [12:30] {Threei} GILD halt
[09:34] {Threei} TRADING HALTED; NEWS PENDING- note: earnings report is scheduled for after the close
[09:35] {dino} positive drug opinion eu
[09:38] {Threei} new high ADBE...
[09:38] {Threei} frustrating stock
[09:39] {magoo} but u never called it right?
[09:39] {Threei} not after first stop
[09:40] {magoo} ram..u ok on SDTH?
[09:40] {dino} wrnc l hl .50, stop .19
[09:41] {ramvfin2003} out .48
[09:41] {magoo} keep an eye on LULU...really bothers magoo
[09:41] {magoo} gj
[09:41] {magoo} ram
[09:42] {Threei} CTEL relatively low risk entry here
[09:42] {dino} gj ram, i ditched i took it off screen as no short, hate when only allowed one way to play
[09:42] {magoo} u going in?
[09:42] {Threei} with 7.90 stop
[09:42] {magoo} what u get?
[09:42] {Threei} ,08
[09:43] {magoo} PRGN coiling
[09:43] {magoo} with naz help, gonna gp imho
[09:43] {ramvfin2003} in CTEL
[09:45] {Threei} SDTH new highs
[09:46] {magoo} LULU
[09:46] {ramvfin2003} target on CTEL vad?
[09:46] {Threei} if breaks .60, I'd say somewhere around .75
[09:49] {bruce} ctel in
[09:51] {magoo} in LULU
[09:51] {magoo} 56
[09:56] {ramvfin2003} CTEL needs a shot of vodka..lol
[09:57] {bruce} ctel needs adrenaline
[09:57] {bruce} and maybe large russian boot
[09:57] {dino} so do i
[09:57] {dino} the vodka that is
[09:58] {bruce} go you b@asta@d
[09:58] {bruce} learned that spelling from dino
[09:58] {ramvfin2003} lol
[09:59] {bruce} if ctel doesn't go I will never buy another chinese phone ag@in
[10:00] {Threei} you will have to live without phone then
[10:00] {bruce} I can go back to cans vad
[10:00] {bruce} you know - with string betwen them
[10:01] {Threei} I guess... but where do you think cans and strings are made?
[10:01] {bruce} lol
[10:01] {bruce} da@m
[10:01] {ramvfin2003} good point vad
[10:02] {bruce} sc@ewed
[10:02] {Threei} FED'S PLOSSER: PREFERS TO USE FORWARD LOOKING ECONOMIC MODELS
[10:02] {Threei} oh wow
[10:02] {Threei} wiser and wiser
[10:02] {magoo} as opposed to what/ lol
[10:02] {Threei} here we sit trying to use backward looking ones
[10:02] {bruce} is that where they spend based on 2025 earnings?
[10:03] {bruce} maybe they can borrow from nigeria
[10:04] {Threei} I am not sharing my nigerian riches
[10:04] {bruce} you can charge nigerian interst
[10:05] {bruce} 2100%
[10:05] {Threei} CTDC
[10:05] {ramvfin2003} stpped ctel
[10:05] {Threei} .70 break is scary scalp
[10:06] {magoo} big ooffer .75 vad
[10:06] {bruce} still in - we didn't get .9 yet ram
[10:07] {Threei} you know what happens to those offers when momo hits
[10:11] {bruce} you guys ever get halted in a stock you were in ?
[10:11] {dino} y
[10:11] {Threei} not pleasant experience
[10:12] {bruce} scary stuff
[10:12] {magoo} several
[10:12] {dino} tell you what else sucks, when they break trades
[10:12] {Threei} one side
[10:12] {Threei} yikes
[10:12] {magoo} that happened to me too
[10:13] {dino} last spring, had a 30 pt gain on short, three hours later they break all trades
[10:13] {bruce} geez
[10:13] {Threei} both sides of your trade dino?
[10:13] {bruce} sue the ba@ta@ds
[10:13] {Threei} or just one
[10:14] {Threei} out CTEL
[10:14] {bruce} me too
[10:14] {dino} not worth it, "they" always win
[10:14] {bruce} 3 strikes
[10:14] {bruce} I'm out forday lads
[10:15] {patience} and a lass
[10:15] {Threei} ok guys, now that bruce is out,
[10:15] {Threei} let's make real trades
[10:15] {bruce} exactly
[10:15] {dino} take care bruce
[10:15] {ramvfin2003} im with bruce bad day...need to turn it around
[10:15] {bruce} going to stay guys - just not taking any more tradews
[10:15] {bruce} going to watch you all rack up the wins now
[10:16] {dino} take care ram
[10:17] {Threei} SDTH target hit
[10:17] {Threei} [12:47] {Threei} if breaks .60, I'd say somewhere around .75
[10:17] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:17] {Threei} what?
[10:17] {Threei} one frikin winning trade and I get slkapped?
[10:18] {magoo} what? its only my first one today
[10:19] {dino} hl l vrtx .70
[10:19] {dino} stop .29
[10:24] {Threei} GILD crazy
[10:34] {magoo} go greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnn
[10:35] {ramvfin2003} vad, thoughts on RIO?
[10:35] {magoo} brazil??
[10:36] {magoo} awesome
[10:36] {dino} vrtx stopped, off my screen 1/4 on it
[10:36] {Threei} no thoughts here... break of .80 was a setup, not now
[10:38] {magoo} vad CTDC?
[10:39] {Threei} 9.75 break
[10:39] {magoo} where would u wait? .91 or .07?
[10:40] {Threei} no faintest idea
[10:40] {Threei} both are quite arbitrary
[10:42] {magoo} do u think .91 has a better shot than 07??
[10:42] {magoo} no slap for that??
[10:43] {Threei} sigh... lol
[10:48] {Threei} .51 long GILD if holding above .35
[10:50] {dino} tbsi
[10:51] {magoo} market power up comith
[10:53] {dino} asbc
[10:57] {magoo} green
[10:57] {magoo} both
[10:57] {Threei} that 1.85% works
[10:57] {magoo} fasten trading helmet..buckle up trading chair seatbelt
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} .51 on GILD vad?
[10:58] {Threei} no
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} i missed it didnt i, the first time
[10:58] {magoo} no..it invalidated'
[10:58] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:59] {Threei} you didn't
[10:59] {Threei} it never triggered and lost support
[10:59] {ramvfin2003} NVDA long?
[10:59] {magoo} ram..take 200 shares of LULU ..56
[10:59] {magoo} RISKI
[11:00] {magoo} stop 55.49..$250 bux or we ride it to 57.76
[11:02] {Threei} ZVUE?
[11:02] {magoo} RISKY tho...mkt sux today
[11:04] {Threei} don't you hate it, ADBE
[11:04] {Threei} identified it as all day climber and never found the way to play it
[11:05] {magoo} wait vad...i on the phone being abused by ADBE
[11:05] {Threei} don't even think of giving it my phone number
[11:05] {bruce} thats one of those buy 100 on open and hold all day vad
[11:05] {dino} wrnc stop to .74
[11:05] {bruce} lol
[11:06] {magoo} ADBE just insulted my mama.sheesh
[11:06] {dino} thats just wrong
[11:07] {bruce} put it in dpf for them mags
[11:07] {ramvfin2003} STV long?
[11:07] {Threei} ?
[11:07] {Threei} why?
[11:07] {dino} hate to do it buys, but hard stopping bidu at 320, don't want goog earning to screw it up afterhours
[11:07] {Threei} what do you see on STV?
[11:09] {dino} out wrnc .74, +.24
[11:13] {dino} out bidu from other day +5.46
[11:13] {Threei} wtg
[11:14] {dino} not really, chickened out.
[11:14] {Threei} +5 is +5, however you slice it
[11:15] {dino} magoo only allows the day trades to count, my swings are no good (although my acct likes them)
[11:15] {magoo} does not count
[11:15] {dino} see
[11:15] {Threei} count for what? determine who is bringing beer today?
[11:15] {magoo} BINGO
[11:15] {magoo} and pizza
[11:16] {dino} me
[11:17] {Threei} HMIN
[11:17] {Threei} ummm... risky as hell
[11:17] {magoo} IN
[11:17] {magoo} OOPS...which way
[11:18] {Threei} lol
[11:18] {magoo} i just saw 2 key words...risky...hell
[11:19] {ramvfin2003} stop on HMIN?
[11:20] {Threei} I don't even know what the play is...
[11:21] {ramvfin2003} k
[11:23] {Threei} you in CTDC magoo?
[11:23] {magoo} yes
[11:24] {dino} chke drop
[11:24] {magoo} in .64
[11:24] {magoo} waiting .965
[11:25] {magoo} .95
[11:29] {dino} cavm
[11:34] {Threei} ASTI pulled back into support
[11:35] {magoo} we need mkt help
[11:35] {Threei} half lot long around here, stop is under 18.70, if breaks 19.30 can move into .50 and 20 is not out of question
[11:37] {dino} cavm hl l .08, stop .74
[11:37] {magoo} in vad
[11:39] {magoo} if it fails...u gonna smell fishy LOL
[11:43] {Threei} look at GEOI
[11:44] {magoo} u spotted it 2 days ago...u take any?
[11:44] {Threei} scalped
[11:44] {magoo} i waiting .95 CTDC
[11:44] {Threei} couldn't bear with its volatility
[11:47] {ramvfin2003} come on ASTI..papa needs a winner today
[11:48] {dino} lol
[11:48] {dino} "new shoes"
[11:49] {magoo} i gotta pee soooo bad...but everytime i leave desk market tanks
[11:49] {Threei} stay put then
[11:49] {dino} cavm stop to .09, mkt dropping
[11:49] {dino} stopped +.01
[11:49] {magoo} nice dino
[11:49] {magoo} OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[11:49] {dino} i know, but better than down
[11:50] {dino} a flash just ran down the hall
[11:51] {Threei} lol
[11:51] {ramvfin2003} ha
[11:51] {dino} ctct, thin
[11:52] {Threei} break that wall ASTI
[11:53] {dino} ram, i should close my door so i don't see thoise flashes
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Session Start: Thu Oct 18 12:06:48 2007
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[12:07] {Threei} ok, that was a joke, just to make sure everyone knows:
[12:07] {Threei} [13:15] {Threei} ok guys, now that bruce is out, let's make real trades
[12:07] {magoo} i just reloaded ASTI .58
[12:07] {magoo} waiting .91
[12:07] {ramvfin2003} VFC movin
[12:08] {magoo} u still got 1/4 vad?
[12:08] {Threei} yes sir
[12:08] {Threei} I believe in 20
[12:08] {Threei} and I have ASTIZ as well
[12:08] {magoo} entry?
[12:08] {ramvfin2003} u think 10 on the z's?\
[12:09] {Threei} not sure on 10
[12:09] {Threei} depends
[12:09] {Threei} 9.16 mags
[12:09] {magoo} all out vad
[12:09] {magoo} asked patience for some
[12:09] {magoo} [15:10] {Threei} depends
[12:09] {Threei} out half 9.35
[12:09] {Threei} lol... I am slow today
[12:10] {Threei} I take severe umbrage in number of vital parts enlargement e-mails I am getting these days... someone is trying to tell me something
[12:10] {magoo} if IF LULU takes .25..we got 57
[12:11] {magoo} in
[12:11] {magoo} kicking it
[12:11] {magoo} ouch..kicked me nback
[12:13] {magoo} vad..2x4 it please
[12:13] {Threei} on LULU?
[12:13] {magoo} yep
[12:13] {bruce} good to see everyon making money now
[12:13] {Threei} no can do magoo
[12:13] {magoo} hit it correct duirection
[12:14] {Threei} with this this name, no rude behavior
[12:14] {Threei} sorry bruce
[12:14] {Threei} but you did the right thing
[12:14] {magoo} oh sh#t...
[12:14] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {Threei} hmm... good idea actually
[12:15] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {bruce} agreed vad
[12:15] {Threei} look... recovery after a nasty beginning of the day requires a lot of skill and ability to emotionally detach yourself
[12:16] {Threei} ability to trade with no emotional baggage of earlier stops
[12:16] {cosmo} there's meds too
[12:16] {Threei} so this baggage doesn't make you jump on opportunities that are not there
[12:16] {Threei} always cos
[12:16] {Threei} but I run out
[12:17] {Threei} biggest danger at that point is exactly this:
[12:17] {dino} wow cavm down move
[12:17] {Threei} you confuse wishful thinking for real opportunity
[12:17] {bruce} lol cosmo
[12:18] {bruce} I'm sticking w beer
[12:18] {Threei} desire to get revenge makes you push hard when there is nothing
[12:18] {bruce} what revenge?
[12:18] {bruce} I've already got 3 cans strung
[12:19] {Threei} made in...?
[12:19] {bruce} beans cans
[12:19] {dino} lol
[12:19] {bruce} of course
[12:21] {cosmo} i like to get my cans from Norway
[12:22] {bruce} oh?
[12:22] {bruce} tjpse the sardine ones?
[12:22] {bruce} too small for trout
[12:22] {cosmo} good metal work
[12:23] {dino} cos, you're getting old
[12:23] {bruce} Ididn't know that
[12:23] {dino} :)
[12:23] {bruce} prefer the ones without rust
[12:23] {Threei} but they weld them shut cos
[12:24] {cosmo} vikings took them all over the world and really confused modern scholars
[12:24] {dino} now thats a memory, viking beers
[12:25] {magoo} frat days dino
[12:26] {dino} indeed
[12:26] {dino} long time ago.......
[12:27] {cosmo} the 'past' is just another hoax
[12:28] {Threei} that last little piece of ASTI I have, stop is .24
[12:28] {Threei} there is no past cos?
[12:29] {cosmo} there was no past?
[12:30] {Threei} I knew it... now, can you help me expose gravity as another fraud?
[12:30] {cosmo} the universe is actually falling up
[12:31] {cosmo} in every direction
[12:31] {cosmo} there was no big bang
[12:31] {Threei} not even small one?
[12:32] {ramvfin2003} CECO why movin?
[12:32] {Threei} looking, can't see anything of significance
[12:32] {Threei} the pnly piece of news I see is ridiculous
[12:33] {Threei} SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF THE COMMISSION ON COLLEGES OF THE SOUTHERN ASSOCIATION OF COLLEGES AND SCHOOLS ("SACS") COMPLETED ITS SCHEDULED VISITS TO FOUR AMERICAN INTERCONTINENTAL UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES ON OCTOBER 17, 2007. - FILING- At the conclusion of the visits, the Special Committee informed AIU that its final report to SACS would contain no recommendations for further corrective action.
[12:33] {Threei} CFC
[12:33] {Threei} SEN SCHUMER URGING SEC PROBE OF CEO. TO INCLUDE CO
[12:34] {dino} ceco
[12:34] {magoo} 3 points CECO
[12:35] {dino} scor 300 filled s .80
[12:35] {dino} 390\
[12:36] {dino} cov scor .47, +.33
[12:38] {Threei} SEED, reversal from where I said it would
[12:39] {Threei} [10:50] {Threei} by daily chart, rather a place top look for bounce bruce
[12:39] {Threei} [10:51] {Threei} filled the gap, volume dried up
[12:41] {magoo} LULU finally
[12:43] {bruce} thanx vadster
[12:44] {Threei} welcome... but for what?
[12:44] {bruce} info on bounce
[12:45] {Threei} out last portuion ASTI .98
[12:45] {dino} vad the hard azz today
[12:45] {Threei} today?
[12:46] {Threei} 20 ASTI, as told
[12:46] {Threei} ASTIZ, start looking for exit ram
[12:46] {Threei} I think it's time
[12:47] {Threei} too close to eod
[12:47] {ramvfin2003} sold 1/2 @ .35 and the rest @ .05 :(
[12:47] {dino} ceco s hl .41
[12:47] {Threei} ASTI will be a matter of interest for tomorrow as well
[12:48] {dino} damn, didn't think it would get there
[12:48] {dino} strange days
[12:49] {Threei} offering balance ASTIZ 9.90
[12:49] {dino} stop is .77
[12:49] {Threei} won't let it go under .50 on me
[12:49] {magoo} out ASTI 20.30
[12:49] {magoo} from my .58
[12:49] {magoo} nuice vad
[12:49] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:50] {dino} stopped -.41 slippage
[12:52] {Threei} OK guys, I am beat
[12:52] {Threei} thank you all
[12:52] {Threei} have a good evening
[12:52] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[12:52] {magoo} u not waiting for goog vad?
[12:52] {dino} f'in ceco, rinse
[12:52] {Threei} no
[12:52] {Threei} I don't care
[12:53] {dino} rick s .87
[12:53] {bruce} night you guys
[12:58] {dptl} see ya tomorrow all.....have a good evening
[12:59] {dino} cov rick .82, +.05 ugh
[13:01] {dino} take care all, a bit light today
Session Close: Fri Oct 19 00:00:00 2007
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
October 17, 2007
Session Start: Wed Oct 17 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Wed Oct 17 00:00:00 2007
[05:09] {bruce} gm everyone
[05:27] {Threei} morning guys
[05:28] {hawkfan4} good morning
[05:28] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:29] {Threei} impressive NASDAQ gap...
[05:29] {Threei} not really what I'd like to see for a sustainable rally continuation
[05:30] {Threei} *SEPT HOUSING STARTS: 1.19M V 1.280ME; BUILDING PERMITS: 1.22M V 1.285ME
[05:31] {Threei} *SEPT CONSUMER PRICE INDEX M/M: 0.3% V 0.2%E; CPI EX FOOD_ENERGY" 0.2% V 0.2%E; CPI NSA: 208.490 V 208.405E
[05:31] {bruce} you think exhastion gap?
[05:31] {Threei} quite possible
[05:31] {Threei} if we climbed slowly into highs I'd be more enthusiastic
[05:32] {Threei} big gap on particular events after that big red day is more like "yay, chance to sell"
[05:32] {bruce} k
[05:32] {bruce} still lots of talkj about a possible correction coming
[05:33] {Threei} EBAY CONFIRMS MYSPACE AND SKYPE ANNOUNCE PARTNERSHIP BRINGING FREE INTERNET VOICE COMMUNICATIONS TO MYSPACE GLOBAL COMMUNITY
[05:33] {cosmo} gap is INTC sympathy
[05:33] {cosmo} i think
[05:34] {Threei} CNTF
[05:34] {Threei} CHINESE GOVERNMENT AWARDS TECHFAITH POCKET PC PHONE CONTRACT
[05:34] {Threei} - This is TechFaith's first contract from a customer that is not in the telecommunication sector. The Company expects to benefit from strong demand in the broader, non-telecommunication market going forward
[05:35] {cosmo} CNTF all time high = 10 fwiw
[05:36] {Threei} bruce... maybe there is a need to review a day like yesteday, comparing my calls to your trades... there is some obvious disconnect, hate to see losing day on your side when most of calls worked nicely on mine
[05:36] {cosmo} CNTF high = 9.32 last nite
[05:37] {Threei} this is yesterday's news?
[05:37] {Threei} yet it traded under 7 this morning... wierd
[05:37] {cosmo} after mkt
[05:37] {bruce} lost on cfc and immu reversal
[05:39] {bruce} lost on gm reversal
[05:39] {bruce} anyway - water under bridge now
[05:40] {Threei} true but there is a lesson in most losses
[05:40] {Threei} not all, some of them are just a tribute to market's natural uncertainty
[05:40] {cosmo} better its water than milk?
[05:41] {Threei} I haven't even looked at GM yesterday, I remember I wasn't excited by CFC, mediocre setup, and was looking for pullback on IMMU that never came to my preferrable level
[05:43] {bruce} how do you set preference levels?
[05:43] {Threei} just from chart configuration
[05:43] {Threei} let me find it
[05:44] {Threei} [13:49] {Threei} I would prefer pullback on IMUU bruce
[05:44] {Threei} [13:49] {Threei} IMMU
[05:44] {Threei} [13:49] {Threei} 3.20 is support
[05:44] {Threei} that was the strong resistance a while before this exchange, got broken with nice advance, then stalled,
[05:44] {bruce} you use 5 min chart for preference levels?
[05:44] {Threei} and there was no real frenzy that would allow to dismiss all technicals,
[05:45] {Threei} so I wanted pullback into new support, former resistance
[05:45] {Threei} if I remember correct it never reached 3.29, just finished somewhere above it
[05:45] {Threei} 3.20
[05:45] {Threei} I use 1 min... but that's not very important
[05:46] {bruce} k
[05:49] {cosmo} EXAS: FDA and Regulatory Update Conference Call; Discussion of Warning Letter from the FDA scheduled for 8:30 am ET today
[05:49] {cosmo} CCBN (Wed 8:30am)
[05:49] {cosmo} that's now
[05:49] {bruce} there was a big reversal play yesterday - amln or something like that
[05:50] {bruce} how do you figure appox area reversal will happen?
[05:52] {Threei} there are no rules to violent selloff bottom search
[05:52] {Threei} they can go much farther than seems reasonable
[05:53] {Threei} that's why pure guess-based bottom hunting is a very dangerous game
[05:54] {Threei} I mean, stock is donw 1 dollar in one gasp, is it a bottom?
[05:54] {Threei} what about 2?
[05:54] {Threei} 3?
[05:54] {Threei} what is there to tell you this is the end of selling?
[05:54] {bruce} I can't read those plays
[05:54] {Threei} noone can
[05:54] {cosmo} unless you're psychic
[05:54] {Threei} this is not how correct bottom hunting is done
[05:54] {bruce} by the time reversal is confirmed its usually too far to enter
[05:55] {Threei} if it forms readable setup with affordable risk at the end of selling, it's a reasonable play
[05:56] {Threei} if it just jumps big off the bottom, shrug and move on
[05:56] {Threei} observe how dino plays those,
[05:56] {Threei} he has two approaches to it
[05:56] {bruce} watched yesterday
[05:56] {bruce} he took at .40
[05:56] {Threei} one is to try and bid way way out there
[05:56] {bruce} it was still tanking
[05:56] {bruce} it went down another 40 c but recoverred from there
[05:57] {Threei} which puts his possible entry into "insane" zone
[05:57] {Threei} high chance to miss the entry which happens often,
[05:57] {Threei} and if get it, much better chance for it to be right one,
[05:57] {Threei} which happens to him quite often too.
[05:57] {Threei} It's still including big element of guessing but he minimizes it as much as possible,
[05:58] {Threei} and minimizes risk
[05:58] {esemde} morning all.....
[05:58] {Threei} this is very good understanding of how capitulation plays work on his part
[05:58] {Threei} ese :)
[05:58] {bruce} looked to me like a guess cause reversal hadn't started yet
[05:58] {Threei} another way he often utilizes is,
[05:58] {bruce} would have to set a big stop
[05:58] {Threei} let the stock bottom out, bounce, stall or retreat,
[05:58] {Threei} then look for a recognizable setup
[05:58] {bruce} say 75c or so to let it play out
[05:59] {bruce} and hope for better han 1
[05:59] {bruce} $1. win
[05:59] {Threei} as it forms double bottom, or consolidation to break
[05:59] {bruce} that was my thought
[05:59] {Threei} but don't forget, what dino does with this kind of plays is not for everyone, this is high eskill/experience/feel level
[05:59] {bruce} wait for readable bottom
[06:00] {bruce} agreed
[06:00] {bruce} not usre I havbe stomach for those plays
[06:01] {Threei} and with his tremendous experience and good read for them, he still keeps his p;osition size small on those
[06:01] {Threei} just because of their built-in risk
[06:01] {cosmo} INTC pre mkt high = 27 fyi
[06:01] {bruce} have seen some multi dollar drops in minutes
[06:01] {bruce} could wipe out an account if you pick wrong and can\t get out
[06:02] {markweb} gm all
[06:02] {Threei} mark :)
[06:02] {markweb} :)
[06:02] {bruce} big move for intc
[06:02] {bruce} hi mark
[06:02] {Threei} that's what I observed happening multiple times bruce
[06:02] {Threei} that's why I don't usually recommend this kind of plays
[06:03] {cosmo} cntf
[06:03] {Threei} they are for someone who ate his portion of what market can dish out... and neighbour's portion too
[06:04] {bruce} k
[06:04] {Threei} for some reason reversal plays on big moves are sooo attractive...
[06:04] {Threei} people just can't stand them go by
[06:04] {bruce} can see why
[06:04] {bruce} lots of money in seconds
[06:05] {esemde} good morning all
[06:05] {bruce} hi ese
[06:05] {Threei} well... how about inevitable equation... :)
[06:05] {Threei} de ja vu
[06:05] {Threei} [08:58] {esemde} morning all.....
[06:05] {Threei} [08:58] {Threei} this is very good understanding of how capitulation plays work on his part
[06:05] {Threei} [08:58] {Threei} ese :)
[06:05] {Threei} ;)
[06:06] {bruce} how do you judge frenzy - time and sales window?
[06:06] {Threei} mostly, yes, with level 2
[06:07] {bruce} a lot of plays over last couple weeks had very thin level 2
[06:07] {bruce} thought maybe you don't pay much attnetion to it anymore
[06:07] {Threei} that's because og China mania
[06:07] {Threei} a lot of those are thin
[06:07] {Threei} but that's where the center of activity was
[06:07] {bruce} the plays with thick level 2 often dont move far - just enough to get you to enter - then reverse to stop
[06:08] {Threei} didn't we play at least two of those yesterday with quite nice result?
[06:08] {Threei} NVDA and BRCM
[06:09] {cosmo} INTC tests
[06:09] {Threei} level 2 reflects liqyidity
[06:09] {Threei} thin level 2 - very liquid stock, moves easily
[06:09] {Threei} bigger risk
[06:09] {Threei} thick level 2, big liquidity, harder to move
[06:10] {bruce} brcm yesterday- moved fast despite level 2
[06:10] {Threei} because had momentum
[06:10] {bruce} you read it right - ignoring initial break and waiting for pullback
[06:10] {bruce} break play would have been loss
[06:11] {Threei} CMTF at 9 again
[06:13] {Threei} CNTF sorry
[06:15] {dptl} good morning all
[06:16] {Threei} dp :)
[06:17] {dino} gm all
[06:17] {Threei} dino :)
[06:17] {Threei} dino, we didn't talk about you and your trades while you were away, no sir
[06:18] {tomg} gm everyone
[06:18] {Threei} tom :)
[06:18] {bruce} hi dino
[06:18] {bruce} bidu recovered nicely for you
[06:19] {bruce} hi tom
[06:20] {dino} i see above much too much credit given
[06:20] {Threei} feel free to wire it to whoever you deem necessary
[06:21] {Threei} (hint: magoo would be a good choice, he brings you beer)
[06:21] {bruce} gld possible long breakout setup?
[06:21] {dino} lol
[06:22] {Threei} it's above yesterday's resiatnce
[06:22] {Threei} at rthis point, breakout of what?
[06:22] {Threei} yesterday's resistance already broken, new one is not formed yet
[06:23] {magoo} morni ng
[06:23] {Threei} magoo :)
[06:24] {bruce} should have said breakout continuation
[06:24] {bruce} hi magoo
[06:25] {magoo} u nailed dino to the tee vad in description
[06:25] {magoo} exactly
[06:25] {Threei} I am very observant
[06:25] {Threei} when I don't sleep
[06:26] {magoo} really? oh oh...i nin big trouble then
[06:26] {dino} bidu +15
[06:27] {Threei} yup... I can tell a lot about one's trading habits if one posts his entries and exits
[06:27] {Threei} so be afrrraid, be verry afraid
[06:27] {bruce} 45 poits to go dino
[06:29] {dino} :); vad has me looking over my shoulder
[06:30] {Threei} never mind that blinking red light behind the curtain dino
[06:30] {bruce} just keep finger on button dino
[06:30] {magoo} i gonna pouke
[06:31] {magoo} u guys sucking up to my nemisis
[06:31] {bruce} you trade dino and vad will have your heart attack for you
[06:31] {Threei} rofl
[06:32] {Threei} I am distrustful of this gap... want to sit out first 10 minutes
[06:32] {bruce} k- was wondering about nok long
[06:32] {Threei} or however long I can sleep while pretending to work hard
[06:33] {ramvfin2003} CNTF any thoughts vad?
[06:33] {magoo} look yhoo sell
[06:33] {Threei} CNTF goes through morning hectic readjustment for now
[06:33] {Threei} can do anything at this point, let's see if it forms something when it calms down a little
[06:35] {Threei} I don't know bruce... NOK is just not interesting
[06:35] {ramvfin2003} CHL?
[06:35] {Threei} YHOO gets interesting
[06:36] {Threei} one more pullback, and if holding above .60, .75 becomes long trigger
[06:37] {magoo} was there new news?i know reported last nite
[06:38] {dino} wbmd?
[06:38] {ramvfin2003} in YHOO .75
[06:38] {dino} strn
[06:38] {Threei} lower guidance yesterday WBMD
[06:39] {magoo} is yhoo personna like nvda or brcm vad?
[06:40] {magoo} as in moves w/naz
[06:40] {bruce} you're lokking for double bottomw with higher low in yahoo?
[06:40] {Threei} often yes, magoo
[06:40] {magoo} so we need to see the qqq bounce
[06:40] {Threei} yes bruce
[06:40] {Threei} NQ is not holding so far
[06:40] {bruce} k - got you
[06:41] {bruce} ther it is - now . needs to hold
[06:41] {bruce} .6
[06:41] {magoo} bruce, qwe need qqqq to reverse
[06:42] {bruce} k- thanks mags
[06:42] {magoo} put up a qqqq minute chart to follow
[06:42] {magoo} i alkways have it up as indicator
[06:43] {bruce} I have it up
[06:43] {Roman} what's the price of Crude?
[06:44] {Threei} $35
[06:44] {Roman} ESLR Evergreen Solar spikes 30 cents in first 10 min of trade as Royal Dutch Shell-for-ESLR makes the rounds (9.44 +0.33)
[06:44] {Threei} wait... I forgot to get out of my time machine
[06:44] {Roman} :)
[06:44] {Threei} or day-dream machine
[06:44] {bruce} yhoo valid now
[06:44] {bruce} ?
[06:45] {Threei} it is
[06:45] {Threei} it's still in NQ's hands but it shows the resilience
[06:45] {cosmo} exas
[06:46] {dino} wbmd capit setting in imo
[06:46] {cosmo} 4.12 hod
[06:46] {dino} l hl .65 wide
[06:47] {markweb} NO:)
[06:47] {dino} lol
[06:47] {Threei} GOLDMAN'S ABBY COHEN: STOCKS WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO RISE AS LONG AS US RECESSION IS AVOIDED - CNBC
[06:48] {Threei} stopped YHOO
[06:48] {markweb} out of diapers with your strategy:)
[06:48] {ramvfin2003} out YHOO -.15
[06:49] {Roman} long DSTI
[06:50] {Roman} slow all day hold
[06:50] {dino} that abbery is one bright chick, i suppose recession they go down
[06:50] {magoo} yhoo bounce coming..niot in yet
[06:50] {Threei} wisdom sharing continues dino
[06:51] {dino} cracking me up lately
[06:51] {dino} and i go out and people talk about these comments, sheesh
[06:54] {Threei} that's why I don't go out
[06:55] {dino} no comment, :)
[06:55] {magoo} i thought it was because every local pub has banned u
[06:55] {bruce} sure you do - crabsre afraid of you
[06:55] {Threei} nothing is secret these days...
[06:56] {magoo} bounce time yhoo
[06:56] {magoo} in .56
[06:56] {Threei} BHIP?
[06:56] {dino} hl l eric .85, stop .48
[06:56] {Threei} SCON 8.20 break long
[06:57] {dino} pwrd, hway
[06:59] {Threei} 8.09 stop
[06:59] {ramvfin2003} l SCON .22
[07:00] {dino} wbmd not working, stopping out
[07:01] {dino} -.55
[07:04] {Threei} CPSL?
[07:05] {ramvfin2003} UTX long?
[07:05] {Roman} CNTF
[07:05] {Roman} long off 8
[07:06] {magoo} in cpsl; .77 out .09 TY VAD too quick ytoo post
[07:06] {Threei} welcome but what heck with it?
[07:06] {magoo} huh?
[07:07] {Threei} why did it jump all of a sudden? :)
[07:07] {magoo} its personnality
[07:07] {dino} china play
[07:07] {magoo} yhoo is 1:!
[07:08] {Threei} sheesh... CNBC hyped it... you guys with your explanations :)
[07:09] {markweb} missed LULU
[07:09] {magoo} lulu..yeah..we need to keep on screen
[07:10] {magoo} 51 high yester
[07:10] {markweb} big one 200"
[07:10] {magoo} out YHOO .77 here, + 21
[07:10] {magoo} full boat
[07:10] {Threei} good one mags
[07:11] {Threei} CPSL guys
[07:11] {magoo} ty
[07:11] {markweb} cpsl
[07:11] {Threei} watch it, could be sustainable this time
[07:11] {Threei} .21 trigger, risky momo play
[07:11] {cosmo} cpsl to the moon, maybe?
[07:11] {Threei} if it taskes resistance level at .35 - .45, not much to keep it from 12
[07:12] {magoo} LULU vad?
[07:12] {magoo} 65??
[07:12] {Threei} need pullback mags
[07:12] {magoo} [10:13] {magoo} 65??
[07:12] {Threei} today? resounding no
[07:13] {bruce} stop would be 10.90 cpsl?
[07:13] {Threei} if sets up from here, yes
[07:13] {bruce} k
[07:13] {Threei} invalidating level is .80
[07:14] {Threei} here comes LULU
[07:14] {Threei} into support 48.5
[07:14] {magoo} CPSL kinda goes then blows..as in we may get one more run...then done
[07:15] {cosmo} EXAS 4.54 hod ...so far ....if you like healers...
[07:16] {magoo} we missed nvda vad
[07:16] {magoo} nice pop
[07:17] {dino} scor
[07:17] {Threei} I watched it... couldn't get a read
[07:18] {Threei} big gap days are always tough
[07:19] {ramvfin2003} CPSL still l on .21?
[07:19] {Threei} yes, but you know how risky it is
[07:19] {Threei} if not, stay away
[07:19] {Threei} this is one of those... huge potential, huge risk
[07:19] {dino} nrmx
[07:20] {Threei} no news that I see
[07:21] {bruce} qs barely moved so far today
[07:21] {dino} l leap .50 hl
[07:24] {cosmo} EXAS tests .54
[07:26] {Threei} LULU starts forming C&H on 1 min
[07:26] {Threei} .90 long trigger if you haven't grabbed pullback
[07:26] {Threei} volatile, thin
[07:27] {Threei} ideally, if holding above .50
[07:27] {Threei} CPSL lost support
[07:30] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: +1.78M V +1ME ; GASOLINE: +2.77M V +400KE ; DISTILLATES: -1M V -750KE ; UTILIZATION: V 87.5%E
[07:30] {Threei} Crude: +4.4M
[07:30] {Threei} Distillate: +1.93M
[07:30] {Threei} Gasoline:-3M
[07:31] {Threei} market likey
[07:32] {Threei} ENER?
[07:33] {Roman} out 1/2 CNTF
[07:33] {Threei} nice one
[07:34] {magoo} vad, thoughts "FEEL" LULU?
[07:35] {Threei} as far as it can be read... 51 shouldn't be too hard
[07:35] {bruce} ostk just popped
[07:35] {Threei} HLIT
[07:36] {Threei} you have 1:1 on LULU, why not take half off the table
[07:36] {Threei} ease the tension
[07:38] {Threei} market is still way too unstable
[07:39] {markweb} dino. stop on ERIC?
[07:40] {dino} scor hl s .05
[07:42] {magoo} LULU skerrin magoo...and thats saying alot
[07:44] {Roman} scalped SCOR , ty dino
[07:45] {Roman} SHOO
[07:45] {dino} cov scor .20, +.85
[07:45] {Roman} radar,
[07:45] {markweb} gj dino:)
[07:45] {dino} eric stopped -.37
[07:46] {dino} ty mark
[07:46] {dino} wbmd back to my entry
[07:46] {ramvfin2003} play on HLIT?
[07:47] {Threei} 12 break if holding abobe 11.90...
[07:47] {ramvfin2003} ty
[07:48] {dino} i warxt
[07:48] {dino} arxt
[07:48] {magoo} out LULU
[07:48] {Threei} CTDC?
[07:51] {magoo} in .56
[07:51] {magoo} out .92 NICE vad
[07:52] {Threei} wtg
[07:52] {magoo} your alert :)
[07:52] {Threei} your feel and guts... there was nothing but feeding frenzy
[07:52] {bruce} nice one mags
[07:52] {bruce} I didn't see an entry
[07:52] {magoo} my favorite really
[07:53] {magoo} did same on your first CPSL alert
[07:53] {Threei} that was pure momo bruce... gotta have a feel for it, nothing technical about such play
[07:53] {magoo} i "feel" the level 2 frenzy bruce..very fast ..hard to post
[07:54] {bruce} k
[07:54] {bruce} good skill to have
[07:54] {magoo} and u gotta immediately offer out to get hit..see now
[07:54] {Threei} observe this kind for a while when they come along
[07:54] {Threei} you will get it
[07:55] {Threei} HMIN... interesting
[07:56] {bruce} would imagine yoiu use market orders for those kinds of plays mags?
[07:56] {Threei} watch the explosion through .50 bruce
[07:56] {Threei} see?
[07:56] {dino} leap stop is .97 fwiw
[07:57] {bruce} yes -slowing down now though
[07:57] {dino} grrr stopped, not my nkt
[07:57] {dino} \market
[07:58] {Threei} NEWSLETTER REPORTS THIS MORNING THAT LDK'S INVENTORY INVESTIGATION MAY NOT BE COMPLETE, CITING EMAILS BETWEEN CO. AND ITS AUDITOR- LDK declined to comment
[07:59] {magoo} bruce no way always ALWAYS limit
[07:59] {magoo} LIMIT ORDER
[07:59] {magoo} i not leaving it to screw me
[08:00] {bruce} k- didn't think you could get in with limit with those fast moves
[08:01] {magoo} with LASER u can get ANYTHING...unbelievable
[08:01] {magoo} u use LASER?
[08:01] {bruce} yup
[08:01] {Threei} limit above current price bruce
[08:01] {bruce} k
[08:02] {bruce} I use smart in if its moving fast
[08:02] {bruce} takes out first isld level
[08:03] {magoo} use ISLD
[08:03] {magoo} or arca
[08:03] {magoo} which brojker?
[08:03] {dino} i use smart bruce, but don't play those types
[08:04] {Threei} bruce, make sure you have Route out boxes checked
[08:04] {bruce} I think I do
[08:04] {magoo} all of them vad?
[08:04] {Threei} yes
[08:04] {magoo} i don't have edga checked
[08:04] {magoo} i should?
[08:05] {Threei} shouldn't matter for NASDAQ stocks... but heck, why take a chance
[08:05] {Threei} it can't hurt
[08:05] {magoo} in default method, u check "follow lev 2"?
[08:05] {Threei} it simply means that any route you use hits everything else, not just this particular route
[08:06] {magoo} u check that?
[08:06] {Threei} no, it's uncheked in mine... not sure what it does
[08:06] {Threei} ask this guy who just popped in
[08:06] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:06] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:06] {LaserDave1} hi guys
[08:07] {magoo} dave, scroll up a few to my vad /
[08:08] {LaserDave1} what is the actualy question
[08:09] {LaserDave1} in a fast moving stock what is the best way to get in?
[08:09] {dino} if a tree falls in the woods
[08:09] {magoo} [11:06] {magoo} in default method, u check "follow lev 2"?
[08:09] {LaserDave1} lol
[08:09] {magoo} in default /
[08:10] {Threei} CTDC trying again
[08:11] {LaserDave1} i dont have that checked
[08:11] {LaserDave1} if you want best levels it is good to have route out inet checked
[08:11] {magoo} ok, in naz box what u got? i have INET
[08:11] {bruce} volumes been dropping
[08:12] {LaserDave1} buy on INET (inside quote) is an awesome key to use
[08:12] {LaserDave1} best key if u ask me
[08:12] {LaserDave1} can trade so fast with it
[08:12] {LaserDave1} if you hit that key it will try to buy
[08:13] {LaserDave1} your default amount of shares at current offer price
[08:13] {Threei} but... will it bring you beer?
[08:13] {LaserDave1} if you are not filled it will tehn cancel
[08:13] {magoo} it will vad
[08:13] {Threei} cool
[08:13] {LaserDave1} all u do is hit it again if you like the next level price
[08:13] {LaserDave1} it is not a market order
[08:13] {LaserDave1} so it wont just fill
[08:13] {LaserDave1} say you want 2000 shares of a fairly thin stock
[08:14] {magoo} LULU read hrere vad?
[08:14] {LaserDave1} it wont just keep clearing levels
[08:14] {LaserDave1} but it is a one touch key
[08:14] {LaserDave1} mine is F4
[08:14] {LaserDave1} so i just hit it
[08:14] {LaserDave1} if i want a zillion shares of a tight stock
[08:14] {LaserDave1} i just tap it a few times
[08:14] {LaserDave1} so fast
[08:14] {magoo} 11:15] {LaserDave1} so i just hit it
[08:14] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:14] {Threei} none here magoo
[08:15] {LaserDave1} the fish again
[08:15] {LaserDave1} then there is the opposite key
[08:15] {magoo} u have nonme...here
[08:15] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[08:15] {dino} drys l .00
[08:15] {markweb} PCAR Vad?
[08:15] {LaserDave1} sell on INET (inside quote)
[08:15] {LaserDave1} does the opposite
[08:15] {LaserDave1} also real qucik to note
[08:16] {dino} stld
[08:16] {LaserDave1} if you are long a stock and want out
[08:16] {LaserDave1} u can hit that key as well
[08:16] {LaserDave1} and it will try to sell all your shares at current inside price
[08:16] {LaserDave1} one touch key
[08:16] {Threei} nothing exciting about it mark
[08:16] {magoo} STLD
[08:16] {magoo} NEWS
[08:16] {markweb} ty
[08:17] {Threei} HEARING STRENGTH BEING ATTRIBUTED TO COMMENTS CONCERNING HIGHER EARNINGS EXPECTATIONS NEXT YEAR
[08:17] {Threei} STLD mags
[08:17] {magoo} TY
[08:19] {dino} waiting at 48.45
[08:19] {magoo} ill go long here and sell um mine lol
[08:19] {bruce} is buy on inet like smart buy dave?
[08:20] {LaserDave1} it will clear out levels if u have rooute oout checked
[08:26] {magoo} vad, u got any READ on STLD?
[08:26] {magoo} easy one for u
[08:26] {dino} stld cx order
[08:26] {Threei} lol
[08:27] {magoo} how about EBAY? reports tonite
[08:29] {Threei} not my cap of tea, pre-earnings plays
[08:29] {ramvfin2003} NUE play?
[08:30] {magoo} ok
[08:30] {Threei} .16 long if holding above 57
[08:30] {magoo} NUE
[08:32] {ramvfin2003} l NUE .17
[08:32] {dino} out drys .30, +.30 too wicked
[08:32] {magoo} go change your diaper dino...office stinx
[08:33] {dino} ctrp
[08:33] {dino} lol
[08:33] {ramvfin2003} target on NUE vad?
[08:33] {magoo} took NUE
[08:33] {magoo} waiting .48
[08:33] {Threei} not sure ram
[08:34] {ramvfin2003} 57 stop right
[08:34] {Threei} just under
[08:34] {ramvfin2003} k
[08:35] {Threei} SQNM again... this stock tortures me
[08:37] {Threei} IMMR??
[08:38] {magoo} man..sh@t just poppin everywhere
[08:38] {dino} sorry 'bout that
[08:38] {Threei} rofl
[08:38] {dino} :)
[08:39] {Threei} 1:1 NUE
[08:40] {magoo} bruce,...lay out somewhere
[08:40] {magoo} don't care where, i at .48
[08:40] {magoo} .44 better bruce
[08:40] {magoo} i there .44
[08:41] {dino} go .43 bruce
[08:41] * magoo slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[08:41] {magoo} thats reserved for vad and i dino...undercutting each other
[08:41] {bruce} I didn't take nue
[08:41] {bruce} gun shy
[08:41] {bruce} volume didn't look compelling
[08:41] {magoo} oh..sorry..it was your call
[08:41] {Threei} IMMR STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO APPLE'S EARLIER ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IT WILL LAUNCH AN IPHONE/ITOUCH DEVELOPER KIT IN FEB.
[08:42] {magoo} i took it
[08:42] {magoo} OUT
[08:42] {ramvfin2003} out .46 NUE
[08:42] {bruce} rams call I think
[08:42] {bruce} worked nice
[08:42] {bruce} congrats gusy
[08:42] {magoo} oh..NICE ram
[08:42] {dino} scor s hl .35
[08:44] {ramvfin2003} l HLIT .03
[08:44] {Threei} SQNM, I sincerely hate you
[08:45] {Chaeron} SQNM scrtches Threei off Christmas card list
[08:45] {ramvfin2003} vad stop on HLIT?
[08:45] {Threei} .89
[08:45] {Threei} ram... something isn't right with your orders... such thick stock as HLIT, there is no reason to yield 3 cents
[08:46] {ramvfin2003} that was my bad, i caught it late
[08:46] {magoo} SQ avail short vad...lets get it lol
[08:46] {magoo} revenge short
[08:50] {Roman} GOAM
[08:50] {Roman} is going to play
[08:51] {magoo} u promise?
[08:52] {Roman} almost
[08:52] {magoo} where u in?
[08:54] {magoo} vad dcc if u here
[08:55] {ramvfin2003} RVBD long?
[08:55] {Roman} i am in swing GOAM
[08:58] {dino} s ctrp .70 hl, darn partial
[08:58] {dino} ok
[08:58] {ramvfin2003} missed RVBD
[08:59] {Chaeron} nice GOAM
[08:59] {dino} rvbd
[09:04] {Threei} NINE?
[09:04] {ramvfin2003} NVDA play?
[09:05] {Threei} no read on NVDA
[09:11] {ramvfin2003} out hlit
[09:11] {bruce} csx approaching hod
[09:12] {bruce} worth trying long?
[09:12] {magoo} sh STLD loss 48
[09:12] {magoo} half lot if triggs
[09:13] {Threei} no feel for CSX at all
[09:13] {bruce} k - no feel no play
[09:13] {magoo} sound like my wife last nite bruce
[09:14] {bruce} lol
[09:14] {magoo} in STLD
[09:15] {bruce} what is stld stop?
[09:17] {magoo} needs mkt help
[09:19] {bruce} s stld 48.02
[09:20] {bruce} is .25 stop enough?
[09:20] {magoo} .21 bruce
[09:20] {magoo} stop
[09:20] {bruce} k
[09:21] {magoo} half right?
[09:21] {bruce} yup
[09:21] {bruce} small
[09:21] {ramvfin2003} u guys r short stld?
[09:21] {magoo} yes, butit triggerd than went up
[09:21] {magoo} so careful
[09:21] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:21] {magoo} i saw .88 prints
[09:22] {magoo} thought we had it
[09:22] {bruce} need bette than .88 to justify trade
[09:22] {bruce} yeah
[09:22] {bruce} loked like it would tank
[09:23] {magoo} yep...looked like we were gonna get a point
[09:23] {ramvfin2003} yhoo play?
[09:24] {Threei} I'd look for short on bounce YHOO
[09:24] {ramvfin2003} keep us posted big boss man
[09:24] {ramvfin2003} lol
[09:26] {magoo} then why don't u boss he he?
[09:26] {magoo} naz helping us bruce
[09:27] {bruce} yup
[09:27] {bruce} so far so good
[09:27] {magoo} don't jinx us
[09:27] {bruce} exit target?
[09:27] {magoo} .56
[09:27] {ramvfin2003} YHOO short here..finger on the trigger
[09:28] {Threei} roman, what are you looking for in GOAM?
[09:28] {Threei} looks interesting
[09:28] {Roman} i am in swing looking for $10
[09:28] {bruce} out .15
[09:29] {bruce} thanx mags
[09:29] {Roman} today hard to say with NQ, looks like we are going to cluse red
[09:29] {Threei} good one guys
[09:29] {dino} wtg bruce
[09:29] {ramvfin2003} gj guys
[09:29] {bruce} + .87
[09:29] {magoo} out .39 u beat me NICE
[09:29] {bruce} lucky
[09:29] {magoo} welcome bruce
[09:31] {magoo} + 63, but i had 700 sh lol
[09:32] {bruce} 200 here
[09:32] {bruce} still very nice
[09:32] {magoo} xcellently played is tthe point...vad should agree
[09:33] {dino} cov ctrp .05, +.65
[09:34] {dino} who is this vad you speak of
[09:35] {bruce} great read magoo- still looked to me like it could go north or south
[09:35] {ramvfin2003} vad quite today...under the weather?
[09:35] {dino} cov scor .80, +.55
[09:36] {bruce} how did you pick short as higher probablitiy?
[09:36] {Threei} just don't feel like working ram {G}
[09:37] {dino} slacker
[09:37] {ramvfin2003} lol
[09:38] {magoo} bruce, i was watching the lev 2,...interest is dying ...up huge...needs to breathe..hence down
[09:38] {magoo} feels lower..not in
[09:39] {bruce} k
[09:39] {dino} coin flip bruce, imo, just keep your stop
[09:40] {dino} imo of course
[09:40] {magoo} oh yeah..flip a coin right now dino...ill tell u whats coming
[09:40] {bruce} I do dino - just pick wrong too often
[09:41] {dino} need a new coin, come to the dark side bruce
[09:41] {bruce} lol
[09:41] {bruce} I like shoprting
[09:41] {magoo} dark side better..lower electric bill
[09:41] {bruce} they work faster
[09:41] {magoo} dino makes us trade with no l,ights on in office
[09:42] {magoo} eyes adjust
[09:42] {bruce} evil glare from screen radiation
[09:42] {dino} you're lucky i let you use the air conditioner little man
[09:43] {dino} over daily, taken a 15 min break
[09:43] {bruce} the complimetns are flying n ow
[09:43] {dino} you can see we were raised on positive reinforcement
[09:44] {ramvfin2003} tempted to go short on STLD here
[09:46] {dino} wants 48.40ish imo
[09:47] {magoo} NO RAM
[09:47] {magoo} could bounce
[09:47] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:51] {ramvfin2003} anyone long STLD?
[09:52] {Threei} YHOO around resistance
[09:53] {Threei} if NQ reverses to downside again, this should be nice spot to look for short entry
[09:55] {bruce} short yhoo here w stop to .62?
[09:55] {Threei} yup
[09:56] {magoo} sh in
[09:58] {magoo} ram..see why no long up there ?
[09:58] {bruce} s yahoo .53
[10:00] {ramvfin2003} yes
[10:05] {magoo} yhoo held that naz sell too well vad
[10:05] {magoo} out + .02
[10:06] {Threei} that was the case earlier too, that's why I wanted bounce rather than breakdown
[10:06] {magoo} well..now look
[10:06] {dino} collapse coming
[10:06] {bruce} out .40
[10:06] {dino} mkt that is
[10:10] {ramvfin2003} NVDA short?
[10:12] {Threei} nah
[10:12] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:12] {magoo} are we down 165?
[10:12] {Threei} Dow, yes
[10:12] {Threei} COMPX is still green
[10:13] {dptl} dow-80.23
[10:14] {ramvfin2003} STLD long?
[10:14] {Threei} why?
[10:15] {ramvfin2003} seems to bouce off of 47.50-.55 few times just my opinion
[10:15] {Threei} but it's 30 cents from there
[10:16] {ramvfin2003} not when i asked
[10:17] {Threei} well... if it moves that much within 1 min, how timely my answer can be? :)
[10:18] {ramvfin2003} lol..ask my new wife how much i can accomplish in a min.....lol
[10:18] {Threei} I better not :)
[10:18] {ramvfin2003} ha
[10:19] {magoo} sounds like what romans wife says he he
[10:22] {dino} lol
[10:23] {magoo} dam..i was watching wrong stock he he
[10:25] {magoo} dino does that all the time...thats why he always responds to compliments " just lucky"...damm right...pulls trigg on wrong stock and it worx lol
[10:25] {bruce} 2 to 1 for you in yhoo vad
[10:26] {Threei} yup
[10:27] {bruce} really tookm its time following market
[10:27] {dino} down we go
[10:29] {dino} sqnm hl s .38, stop .66
[10:29] {dino} vdsi fall
[10:29] {Threei} my disliking of the gap in the morning was justified
[10:30] {magoo} u can say that again
[10:32] {magoo} ill do it for u
[10:32] {magoo} 13:31] {Threei} my disliking of the gap in the morning was justified
[10:32] {magoo} [13:31] {magoo} u can s
[10:34] {Threei} ty
[10:36] {bruce} qs and dow trying to bounce
[10:36] {bruce} pretty pathetic so far though
[10:38] {ramvfin2003} missed yhoo short, should i short this bounce?
[10:39] {Threei} not before .50...
[10:39] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:39] {Threei} GEOI
[10:40] {Threei} something's going on
[10:42] {dino} hl l vdsi .20
[10:43] {dino} sqnm bstop to .35
[10:43] {Threei} REMINDER: FED'S BEIGE BOOK DUE OUT AT 2PMET
[10:43] {Threei} - economy continues to expand; impact on ecomony is limited outside of housing
[10:43] {Threei} - Fed's sees little change in overall price pressures since July report
[10:43] {Threei} - Retail sales "generally positive"
[10:43] {Threei} - Most districts saw "modest" job gains vs similar views expressed in July
[10:43] {Threei} - Tighter credit "clouds housing outlook"; recent distress in the financial markets has "deepened" the housing slowdown
[10:46] {Threei} not for faint hearts... if this GEOI offer gets taken, likely to explode
[10:48] {ramvfin2003} ach long?
[10:49] {Threei} closer to 84 I'd think
[10:49] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:50] {dino} sqnm cov .28,, +.10
[10:52] {markweb} CTRP, dino?
[10:52] {dino} vdsi stopped -.36
[10:52] {dino} missed it mark
[10:52] {ramvfin2003} l ach 84.10
[10:52] {dino} at ,49
[10:53] {dino} .
[10:53] {markweb} me to
[10:54] {Threei} market continues downticking ram, why go long
[10:54] {magoo} end of world it seems
[10:57] {Threei} use this bounce to get out and consider it a gift
[10:57] {ramvfin2003} out
[10:57] {Threei} I am telling you... walking heart attack
[10:58] {Threei} don't buy price alone, watch for confirmation, for market help
[10:58] {Threei} price level is where you need to be ready
[10:58] {Threei} but it's not the sole reason for entry
[10:59] {dino} hl l drys .75 wide
[11:00] {Threei} FED'S BEIGE BOOK: GROWH DECELERATED IN SEP AND EARLY OCT
[11:00] {Threei} GIGA?
[11:00] {magoo} quotes down
[11:02] {ramvfin2003} out ACH 85.35
[11:03] {Threei} - home sales slowed with inventories higher
[11:03] {Threei} - weaker Dollar makes imports more expensive
[11:03] {Threei} - housing may remain subdued for several months
[11:03] {Threei} - consumer spending grew at a slower pace since Aug
[11:03] {Threei} - Firms see 'higher than usual' economic uncertainty
[11:03] {Threei} - Most Fed banks saw lower home sales, prices
[11:03] {Threei} - Competition holding retail prices in check, retail sales softening, outlook uncertain
[11:03] {Threei} - Labor Markets are tight, 'modest' wage pressures
[11:07] {Threei} GIGA frenzy
[11:12] {magoo} LULU on another planet
[11:13] {Threei} sheesh... with this name I wouldn't be in this universe even
[11:13] {Threei} you expect any kind of reality from stock called LULU?
[11:27] {dino} algt
[11:35] {ramvfin2003} giga play?
[11:36] {Threei} pure momo... can't tell
[11:40] {Threei} US TREASURY'S MCCORMICK: FINANCIAL CONDITIONS ARE STABILIZING IN SOME MARKETS
[11:40] {Threei} - Notes issues raised by recent turmoil are complex, cannot rush to judgement
[11:40] {Threei} - Says G7 to discuss implications of sovereign wealth funds for stability of world financial system
[11:40] {Threei} - Says US to stress importance of IMF role in surveillance of global exchange rates
[11:56] {ramvfin2003} YHOO long?
[11:57] {dino} ctrp holds well
[11:59] {Threei} I think so ram
[11:59] {Threei} .45 stop
[12:00] {dino} back in 15
[12:08] {Threei} COCO
[12:08] {Threei} DISCLOSES SEARCH WARRANT ISSUED AT FLORIDA CAMPUS - FILING
[12:08] {Threei} - Co. cooperating, yet not informed by action has been taken against it, or why similiar actions have been take against other institutions in the area
[12:09] {magoo} back
[12:09] {magoo} any setups vad??
[12:09] {Threei} LULU: what gravity? You have gravity in your world?
[12:10] {dino} lol dys gets me out at 119.35, +.60, while out
[12:10] {Threei} that's disgusting
[12:10] {Threei} dino makes money not even being here
[12:10] {dino} lucky
[12:11] {dino} ctrp spike coming, imo
[12:11] {Threei} I am intrigued by GEOI still magoo
[12:11] {magoo} used to be a real player remember
[12:11] {magoo} with able
[12:11] {Threei} right
[12:11] {Threei} ABLE is no more
[12:12] {magoo} yep
[12:13] {Threei} anyone thinking of a joke along the line unABLE etc, it's too obvious
[12:13] {Threei} it's my prerogative to make such lame jokes
[12:13] {dino} hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[12:14] {Threei} YHOO's working
[12:15] {magoo} where was yhoo entry?
[12:15] {Threei} 10-11 cents ago
[12:23] {Threei} FORMER FED CHMN GREENSPAN: NO IMMINENT DANGER IN WEAKENING DOLLAR - INTERVIEW IN CZECH NEWSPAPER
[12:23] {Threei} - Odds of US recession are around 50% at most-reiterating comments
[12:23] {Threei} - Says crises like the credit crunch this year are impossible to eliminate and may become more frequent
[12:23] {Threei} - Says cannot see the end of US economy woes, depends on property market recovery
[12:23] {Threei} I am crying
[12:24] {bruce} nows thge time to buy REal estate vad
[12:24] {Threei} in USA? :)
[12:24] {bruce} 2 years ago it was hyped in all the media to buy
[12:25] {bruce} yuppers
[12:25] {bruce} buy when gloom and doom
[12:27] {dino} buy when the blood flows
[12:32] {dino} missed ctrp 3 x
[12:36] {Threei} GOAM is picking up interest again
[12:38] {magoo} ebay tonight
[12:39] {Threei} funny thing about today is, it still hasn't allowed to judge the further direction
[12:39] {dino} risky, hl s stld .01
[12:40] {Threei} while critical support level at 2150 remains untagged still, move into resistance happened in a wy that made all but imposible to get follow through
[12:40] {Threei} and retreat while expected, wasn't as deep as to indicate failure
[12:40] {Threei} so, uncertainty continues
[12:43] {dino} bstop is .27 stld
[12:44] {dino} stopped -.26
[12:45] {dino} usat
[12:49] {dino} hl s .18, stop .46
[12:55] {Threei} I remain 52% bullish as of the end of today
[12:55] {Threei} no... 51.85%
[12:56] {dino} coin toss 'eh
[12:56] {bruce} I remain confused, as usual
[12:57] {Threei} NQ finishes almost at the high
[12:57] {dino} maybe you're overthinking it. i drive magoo crazy coming in late and having no clue
[12:57] {Threei} so I have to give this 1.85% preference to bullish side
[12:57] {bruce} nice call in yahoo long vad
[12:58] {bruce} I thought it wuld drop further todaqy
[12:58] {dino} cov usat .01, +.17
[12:58] {Threei} you took it ram?
[12:59] {dino} good day all thanks for ideas
[12:59] {Threei} thank you all
[12:59] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow for more confusion
[12:59] {ramvfin2003} good night all
[12:59] {Threei} both GOAM and GEOI on watch
[13:00] {bruce} geoi looks awful thin
[13:01] {Threei} always was this way
[13:01] {Threei} it's a small oil stock
[13:01] {Threei} horribly volatile
[13:01] {Threei} totally explosive when catches momentum
[13:01] {bruce} 37k volume for day
[13:02] {Threei} and this is not the worst day for it :)
[13:02] {bruce} could move big either way
[13:02] {Threei} sooo... what about EBAY
[13:03] {bruce} nice closing volume in ebay
[13:03] {bruce} thanx all
[13:03] {Threei} MOGN REPORTS Q3 $0.13 V $0.12E, R$112.5 V $108.5ME
[13:03] {bruce} se you in am
[13:04] {Threei} ARNA REPORTS Q3 $0. V -$0.71E, R$5M V $6.4ME
[13:05] {dino} qcom
[13:05] {Threei} anyone sticks around to wait for ebay?
[13:05] {dptl} me
[13:05] {dino} new trial maybe
[13:05] {dino} gotta hop, take care all
[13:05] {Threei} CTXS REPORTS Q3 $0.41 V $0.38E, R$ V $340ME- Guides Q4 R$ v $373Me{FFIV}
[13:05] {bruce} you going to trade it post market vad?
[13:06] {Threei} if it's tradeable
[13:06] {bruce} k
[13:06] {bruce} I'm game
[13:06] {bruce} said the rabbit
[13:06] {Threei} lol
[13:07] {magoo} i guress it pops up
[13:07] {magoo} last nite i hit yhoo for 2 bux, but only 400 shares
[13:07] {magoo} in 27.44 out 29.2ish
[13:08] {Threei} nice
[13:08] {Threei} hmmm... CTXS
[13:08] {bruce} yes
[13:08] {Threei} report didn't look bad
[13:08] {Threei} strange dump, then big recovery
[13:11] {magoo} ty vad for today, i had a triple goal day
[13:11] {Threei} wow, nice
[13:11] {magoo} took hit yesterday, but made up tofday
[13:12] {magoo} why jade moving
[13:13] {Threei} auditor resigns, accounting issues, you name it
[13:13] {Threei} POS
Session Time: Wed Oct 17 00:00:00 2007
[05:09] {bruce} gm everyone
[05:27] {Threei} morning guys
[05:28] {hawkfan4} good morning
[05:28] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:29] {Threei} impressive NASDAQ gap...
[05:29] {Threei} not really what I'd like to see for a sustainable rally continuation
[05:30] {Threei} *SEPT HOUSING STARTS: 1.19M V 1.280ME; BUILDING PERMITS: 1.22M V 1.285ME
[05:31] {Threei} *SEPT CONSUMER PRICE INDEX M/M: 0.3% V 0.2%E; CPI EX FOOD_ENERGY" 0.2% V 0.2%E; CPI NSA: 208.490 V 208.405E
[05:31] {bruce} you think exhastion gap?
[05:31] {Threei} quite possible
[05:31] {Threei} if we climbed slowly into highs I'd be more enthusiastic
[05:32] {Threei} big gap on particular events after that big red day is more like "yay, chance to sell"
[05:32] {bruce} k
[05:32] {bruce} still lots of talkj about a possible correction coming
[05:33] {Threei} EBAY CONFIRMS MYSPACE AND SKYPE ANNOUNCE PARTNERSHIP BRINGING FREE INTERNET VOICE COMMUNICATIONS TO MYSPACE GLOBAL COMMUNITY
[05:33] {cosmo} gap is INTC sympathy
[05:33] {cosmo} i think
[05:34] {Threei} CNTF
[05:34] {Threei} CHINESE GOVERNMENT AWARDS TECHFAITH POCKET PC PHONE CONTRACT
[05:34] {Threei} - This is TechFaith's first contract from a customer that is not in the telecommunication sector. The Company expects to benefit from strong demand in the broader, non-telecommunication market going forward
[05:35] {cosmo} CNTF all time high = 10 fwiw
[05:36] {Threei} bruce... maybe there is a need to review a day like yesteday, comparing my calls to your trades... there is some obvious disconnect, hate to see losing day on your side when most of calls worked nicely on mine
[05:36] {cosmo} CNTF high = 9.32 last nite
[05:37] {Threei} this is yesterday's news?
[05:37] {Threei} yet it traded under 7 this morning... wierd
[05:37] {cosmo} after mkt
[05:37] {bruce} lost on cfc and immu reversal
[05:39] {bruce} lost on gm reversal
[05:39] {bruce} anyway - water under bridge now
[05:40] {Threei} true but there is a lesson in most losses
[05:40] {Threei} not all, some of them are just a tribute to market's natural uncertainty
[05:40] {cosmo} better its water than milk?
[05:41] {Threei} I haven't even looked at GM yesterday, I remember I wasn't excited by CFC, mediocre setup, and was looking for pullback on IMMU that never came to my preferrable level
[05:43] {bruce} how do you set preference levels?
[05:43] {Threei} just from chart configuration
[05:43] {Threei} let me find it
[05:44] {Threei} [13:49] {Threei} I would prefer pullback on IMUU bruce
[05:44] {Threei} [13:49] {Threei} IMMU
[05:44] {Threei} [13:49] {Threei} 3.20 is support
[05:44] {Threei} that was the strong resistance a while before this exchange, got broken with nice advance, then stalled,
[05:44] {bruce} you use 5 min chart for preference levels?
[05:44] {Threei} and there was no real frenzy that would allow to dismiss all technicals,
[05:45] {Threei} so I wanted pullback into new support, former resistance
[05:45] {Threei} if I remember correct it never reached 3.29, just finished somewhere above it
[05:45] {Threei} 3.20
[05:45] {Threei} I use 1 min... but that's not very important
[05:46] {bruce} k
[05:49] {cosmo} EXAS: FDA and Regulatory Update Conference Call; Discussion of Warning Letter from the FDA scheduled for 8:30 am ET today
[05:49] {cosmo} CCBN (Wed 8:30am)
[05:49] {cosmo} that's now
[05:49] {bruce} there was a big reversal play yesterday - amln or something like that
[05:50] {bruce} how do you figure appox area reversal will happen?
[05:52] {Threei} there are no rules to violent selloff bottom search
[05:52] {Threei} they can go much farther than seems reasonable
[05:53] {Threei} that's why pure guess-based bottom hunting is a very dangerous game
[05:54] {Threei} I mean, stock is donw 1 dollar in one gasp, is it a bottom?
[05:54] {Threei} what about 2?
[05:54] {Threei} 3?
[05:54] {Threei} what is there to tell you this is the end of selling?
[05:54] {bruce} I can't read those plays
[05:54] {Threei} noone can
[05:54] {cosmo} unless you're psychic
[05:54] {Threei} this is not how correct bottom hunting is done
[05:54] {bruce} by the time reversal is confirmed its usually too far to enter
[05:55] {Threei} if it forms readable setup with affordable risk at the end of selling, it's a reasonable play
[05:56] {Threei} if it just jumps big off the bottom, shrug and move on
[05:56] {Threei} observe how dino plays those,
[05:56] {Threei} he has two approaches to it
[05:56] {bruce} watched yesterday
[05:56] {bruce} he took at .40
[05:56] {Threei} one is to try and bid way way out there
[05:56] {bruce} it was still tanking
[05:56] {bruce} it went down another 40 c but recoverred from there
[05:57] {Threei} which puts his possible entry into "insane" zone
[05:57] {Threei} high chance to miss the entry which happens often,
[05:57] {Threei} and if get it, much better chance for it to be right one,
[05:57] {Threei} which happens to him quite often too.
[05:57] {Threei} It's still including big element of guessing but he minimizes it as much as possible,
[05:58] {Threei} and minimizes risk
[05:58] {esemde} morning all.....
[05:58] {Threei} this is very good understanding of how capitulation plays work on his part
[05:58] {Threei} ese :)
[05:58] {bruce} looked to me like a guess cause reversal hadn't started yet
[05:58] {Threei} another way he often utilizes is,
[05:58] {bruce} would have to set a big stop
[05:58] {Threei} let the stock bottom out, bounce, stall or retreat,
[05:58] {Threei} then look for a recognizable setup
[05:58] {bruce} say 75c or so to let it play out
[05:59] {bruce} and hope for better han 1
[05:59] {bruce} $1. win
[05:59] {Threei} as it forms double bottom, or consolidation to break
[05:59] {bruce} that was my thought
[05:59] {Threei} but don't forget, what dino does with this kind of plays is not for everyone, this is high eskill/experience/feel level
[05:59] {bruce} wait for readable bottom
[06:00] {bruce} agreed
[06:00] {bruce} not usre I havbe stomach for those plays
[06:01] {Threei} and with his tremendous experience and good read for them, he still keeps his p;osition size small on those
[06:01] {Threei} just because of their built-in risk
[06:01] {cosmo} INTC pre mkt high = 27 fyi
[06:01] {bruce} have seen some multi dollar drops in minutes
[06:01] {bruce} could wipe out an account if you pick wrong and can\t get out
[06:02] {markweb} gm all
[06:02] {Threei} mark :)
[06:02] {markweb} :)
[06:02] {bruce} big move for intc
[06:02] {bruce} hi mark
[06:02] {Threei} that's what I observed happening multiple times bruce
[06:02] {Threei} that's why I don't usually recommend this kind of plays
[06:03] {cosmo} cntf
[06:03] {Threei} they are for someone who ate his portion of what market can dish out... and neighbour's portion too
[06:04] {bruce} k
[06:04] {Threei} for some reason reversal plays on big moves are sooo attractive...
[06:04] {Threei} people just can't stand them go by
[06:04] {bruce} can see why
[06:04] {bruce} lots of money in seconds
[06:05] {esemde} good morning all
[06:05] {bruce} hi ese
[06:05] {Threei} well... how about inevitable equation... :)
[06:05] {Threei} de ja vu
[06:05] {Threei} [08:58] {esemde} morning all.....
[06:05] {Threei} [08:58] {Threei} this is very good understanding of how capitulation plays work on his part
[06:05] {Threei} [08:58] {Threei} ese :)
[06:05] {Threei} ;)
[06:06] {bruce} how do you judge frenzy - time and sales window?
[06:06] {Threei} mostly, yes, with level 2
[06:07] {bruce} a lot of plays over last couple weeks had very thin level 2
[06:07] {bruce} thought maybe you don't pay much attnetion to it anymore
[06:07] {Threei} that's because og China mania
[06:07] {Threei} a lot of those are thin
[06:07] {Threei} but that's where the center of activity was
[06:07] {bruce} the plays with thick level 2 often dont move far - just enough to get you to enter - then reverse to stop
[06:08] {Threei} didn't we play at least two of those yesterday with quite nice result?
[06:08] {Threei} NVDA and BRCM
[06:09] {cosmo} INTC tests
[06:09] {Threei} level 2 reflects liqyidity
[06:09] {Threei} thin level 2 - very liquid stock, moves easily
[06:09] {Threei} bigger risk
[06:09] {Threei} thick level 2, big liquidity, harder to move
[06:10] {bruce} brcm yesterday- moved fast despite level 2
[06:10] {Threei} because had momentum
[06:10] {bruce} you read it right - ignoring initial break and waiting for pullback
[06:10] {bruce} break play would have been loss
[06:11] {Threei} CMTF at 9 again
[06:13] {Threei} CNTF sorry
[06:15] {dptl} good morning all
[06:16] {Threei} dp :)
[06:17] {dino} gm all
[06:17] {Threei} dino :)
[06:17] {Threei} dino, we didn't talk about you and your trades while you were away, no sir
[06:18] {tomg} gm everyone
[06:18] {Threei} tom :)
[06:18] {bruce} hi dino
[06:18] {bruce} bidu recovered nicely for you
[06:19] {bruce} hi tom
[06:20] {dino} i see above much too much credit given
[06:20] {Threei} feel free to wire it to whoever you deem necessary
[06:21] {Threei} (hint: magoo would be a good choice, he brings you beer)
[06:21] {bruce} gld possible long breakout setup?
[06:21] {dino} lol
[06:22] {Threei} it's above yesterday's resiatnce
[06:22] {Threei} at rthis point, breakout of what?
[06:22] {Threei} yesterday's resistance already broken, new one is not formed yet
[06:23] {magoo} morni ng
[06:23] {Threei} magoo :)
[06:24] {bruce} should have said breakout continuation
[06:24] {bruce} hi magoo
[06:25] {magoo} u nailed dino to the tee vad in description
[06:25] {magoo} exactly
[06:25] {Threei} I am very observant
[06:25] {Threei} when I don't sleep
[06:26] {magoo} really? oh oh...i nin big trouble then
[06:26] {dino} bidu +15
[06:27] {Threei} yup... I can tell a lot about one's trading habits if one posts his entries and exits
[06:27] {Threei} so be afrrraid, be verry afraid
[06:27] {bruce} 45 poits to go dino
[06:29] {dino} :); vad has me looking over my shoulder
[06:30] {Threei} never mind that blinking red light behind the curtain dino
[06:30] {bruce} just keep finger on button dino
[06:30] {magoo} i gonna pouke
[06:31] {magoo} u guys sucking up to my nemisis
[06:31] {bruce} you trade dino and vad will have your heart attack for you
[06:31] {Threei} rofl
[06:32] {Threei} I am distrustful of this gap... want to sit out first 10 minutes
[06:32] {bruce} k- was wondering about nok long
[06:32] {Threei} or however long I can sleep while pretending to work hard
[06:33] {ramvfin2003} CNTF any thoughts vad?
[06:33] {magoo} look yhoo sell
[06:33] {Threei} CNTF goes through morning hectic readjustment for now
[06:33] {Threei} can do anything at this point, let's see if it forms something when it calms down a little
[06:35] {Threei} I don't know bruce... NOK is just not interesting
[06:35] {ramvfin2003} CHL?
[06:35] {Threei} YHOO gets interesting
[06:36] {Threei} one more pullback, and if holding above .60, .75 becomes long trigger
[06:37] {magoo} was there new news?i know reported last nite
[06:38] {dino} wbmd?
[06:38] {ramvfin2003} in YHOO .75
[06:38] {dino} strn
[06:38] {Threei} lower guidance yesterday WBMD
[06:39] {magoo} is yhoo personna like nvda or brcm vad?
[06:40] {magoo} as in moves w/naz
[06:40] {bruce} you're lokking for double bottomw with higher low in yahoo?
[06:40] {Threei} often yes, magoo
[06:40] {magoo} so we need to see the qqq bounce
[06:40] {Threei} yes bruce
[06:40] {Threei} NQ is not holding so far
[06:40] {bruce} k - got you
[06:41] {bruce} ther it is - now . needs to hold
[06:41] {bruce} .6
[06:41] {magoo} bruce, qwe need qqqq to reverse
[06:42] {bruce} k- thanks mags
[06:42] {magoo} put up a qqqq minute chart to follow
[06:42] {magoo} i alkways have it up as indicator
[06:43] {bruce} I have it up
[06:43] {Roman} what's the price of Crude?
[06:44] {Threei} $35
[06:44] {Roman} ESLR Evergreen Solar spikes 30 cents in first 10 min of trade as Royal Dutch Shell-for-ESLR makes the rounds (9.44 +0.33)
[06:44] {Threei} wait... I forgot to get out of my time machine
[06:44] {Roman} :)
[06:44] {Threei} or day-dream machine
[06:44] {bruce} yhoo valid now
[06:44] {bruce} ?
[06:45] {Threei} it is
[06:45] {Threei} it's still in NQ's hands but it shows the resilience
[06:45] {cosmo} exas
[06:46] {dino} wbmd capit setting in imo
[06:46] {cosmo} 4.12 hod
[06:46] {dino} l hl .65 wide
[06:47] {markweb} NO:)
[06:47] {dino} lol
[06:47] {Threei} GOLDMAN'S ABBY COHEN: STOCKS WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO RISE AS LONG AS US RECESSION IS AVOIDED - CNBC
[06:48] {Threei} stopped YHOO
[06:48] {markweb} out of diapers with your strategy:)
[06:48] {ramvfin2003} out YHOO -.15
[06:49] {Roman} long DSTI
[06:50] {Roman} slow all day hold
[06:50] {dino} that abbery is one bright chick, i suppose recession they go down
[06:50] {magoo} yhoo bounce coming..niot in yet
[06:50] {Threei} wisdom sharing continues dino
[06:51] {dino} cracking me up lately
[06:51] {dino} and i go out and people talk about these comments, sheesh
[06:54] {Threei} that's why I don't go out
[06:55] {dino} no comment, :)
[06:55] {magoo} i thought it was because every local pub has banned u
[06:55] {bruce} sure you do - crabsre afraid of you
[06:55] {Threei} nothing is secret these days...
[06:56] {magoo} bounce time yhoo
[06:56] {magoo} in .56
[06:56] {Threei} BHIP?
[06:56] {dino} hl l eric .85, stop .48
[06:56] {Threei} SCON 8.20 break long
[06:57] {dino} pwrd, hway
[06:59] {Threei} 8.09 stop
[06:59] {ramvfin2003} l SCON .22
[07:00] {dino} wbmd not working, stopping out
[07:01] {dino} -.55
[07:04] {Threei} CPSL?
[07:05] {ramvfin2003} UTX long?
[07:05] {Roman} CNTF
[07:05] {Roman} long off 8
[07:06] {magoo} in cpsl; .77 out .09 TY VAD too quick ytoo post
[07:06] {Threei} welcome but what heck with it?
[07:06] {magoo} huh?
[07:07] {Threei} why did it jump all of a sudden? :)
[07:07] {magoo} its personnality
[07:07] {dino} china play
[07:07] {magoo} yhoo is 1:!
[07:08] {Threei} sheesh... CNBC hyped it... you guys with your explanations :)
[07:09] {markweb} missed LULU
[07:09] {magoo} lulu..yeah..we need to keep on screen
[07:10] {magoo} 51 high yester
[07:10] {markweb} big one 200"
[07:10] {magoo} out YHOO .77 here, + 21
[07:10] {magoo} full boat
[07:10] {Threei} good one mags
[07:11] {Threei} CPSL guys
[07:11] {magoo} ty
[07:11] {markweb} cpsl
[07:11] {Threei} watch it, could be sustainable this time
[07:11] {Threei} .21 trigger, risky momo play
[07:11] {cosmo} cpsl to the moon, maybe?
[07:11] {Threei} if it taskes resistance level at .35 - .45, not much to keep it from 12
[07:12] {magoo} LULU vad?
[07:12] {magoo} 65??
[07:12] {Threei} need pullback mags
[07:12] {magoo} [10:13] {magoo} 65??
[07:12] {Threei} today? resounding no
[07:13] {bruce} stop would be 10.90 cpsl?
[07:13] {Threei} if sets up from here, yes
[07:13] {bruce} k
[07:13] {Threei} invalidating level is .80
[07:14] {Threei} here comes LULU
[07:14] {Threei} into support 48.5
[07:14] {magoo} CPSL kinda goes then blows..as in we may get one more run...then done
[07:15] {cosmo} EXAS 4.54 hod ...so far ....if you like healers...
[07:16] {magoo} we missed nvda vad
[07:16] {magoo} nice pop
[07:17] {dino} scor
[07:17] {Threei} I watched it... couldn't get a read
[07:18] {Threei} big gap days are always tough
[07:19] {ramvfin2003} CPSL still l on .21?
[07:19] {Threei} yes, but you know how risky it is
[07:19] {Threei} if not, stay away
[07:19] {Threei} this is one of those... huge potential, huge risk
[07:19] {dino} nrmx
[07:20] {Threei} no news that I see
[07:21] {bruce} qs barely moved so far today
[07:21] {dino} l leap .50 hl
[07:24] {cosmo} EXAS tests .54
[07:26] {Threei} LULU starts forming C&H on 1 min
[07:26] {Threei} .90 long trigger if you haven't grabbed pullback
[07:26] {Threei} volatile, thin
[07:27] {Threei} ideally, if holding above .50
[07:27] {Threei} CPSL lost support
[07:30] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: +1.78M V +1ME ; GASOLINE: +2.77M V +400KE ; DISTILLATES: -1M V -750KE ; UTILIZATION: V 87.5%E
[07:30] {Threei} Crude: +4.4M
[07:30] {Threei} Distillate: +1.93M
[07:30] {Threei} Gasoline:-3M
[07:31] {Threei} market likey
[07:32] {Threei} ENER?
[07:33] {Roman} out 1/2 CNTF
[07:33] {Threei} nice one
[07:34] {magoo} vad, thoughts "FEEL" LULU?
[07:35] {Threei} as far as it can be read... 51 shouldn't be too hard
[07:35] {bruce} ostk just popped
[07:35] {Threei} HLIT
[07:36] {Threei} you have 1:1 on LULU, why not take half off the table
[07:36] {Threei} ease the tension
[07:38] {Threei} market is still way too unstable
[07:39] {markweb} dino. stop on ERIC?
[07:40] {dino} scor hl s .05
[07:42] {magoo} LULU skerrin magoo...and thats saying alot
[07:44] {Roman} scalped SCOR , ty dino
[07:45] {Roman} SHOO
[07:45] {dino} cov scor .20, +.85
[07:45] {Roman} radar,
[07:45] {markweb} gj dino:)
[07:45] {dino} eric stopped -.37
[07:46] {dino} ty mark
[07:46] {dino} wbmd back to my entry
[07:46] {ramvfin2003} play on HLIT?
[07:47] {Threei} 12 break if holding abobe 11.90...
[07:47] {ramvfin2003} ty
[07:48] {dino} i warxt
[07:48] {dino} arxt
[07:48] {magoo} out LULU
[07:48] {Threei} CTDC?
[07:51] {magoo} in .56
[07:51] {magoo} out .92 NICE vad
[07:52] {Threei} wtg
[07:52] {magoo} your alert :)
[07:52] {Threei} your feel and guts... there was nothing but feeding frenzy
[07:52] {bruce} nice one mags
[07:52] {bruce} I didn't see an entry
[07:52] {magoo} my favorite really
[07:53] {magoo} did same on your first CPSL alert
[07:53] {Threei} that was pure momo bruce... gotta have a feel for it, nothing technical about such play
[07:53] {magoo} i "feel" the level 2 frenzy bruce..very fast ..hard to post
[07:54] {bruce} k
[07:54] {bruce} good skill to have
[07:54] {magoo} and u gotta immediately offer out to get hit..see now
[07:54] {Threei} observe this kind for a while when they come along
[07:54] {Threei} you will get it
[07:55] {Threei} HMIN... interesting
[07:56] {bruce} would imagine yoiu use market orders for those kinds of plays mags?
[07:56] {Threei} watch the explosion through .50 bruce
[07:56] {Threei} see?
[07:56] {dino} leap stop is .97 fwiw
[07:57] {bruce} yes -slowing down now though
[07:57] {dino} grrr stopped, not my nkt
[07:57] {dino} \market
[07:58] {Threei} NEWSLETTER REPORTS THIS MORNING THAT LDK'S INVENTORY INVESTIGATION MAY NOT BE COMPLETE, CITING EMAILS BETWEEN CO. AND ITS AUDITOR- LDK declined to comment
[07:59] {magoo} bruce no way always ALWAYS limit
[07:59] {magoo} LIMIT ORDER
[07:59] {magoo} i not leaving it to screw me
[08:00] {bruce} k- didn't think you could get in with limit with those fast moves
[08:01] {magoo} with LASER u can get ANYTHING...unbelievable
[08:01] {magoo} u use LASER?
[08:01] {bruce} yup
[08:01] {Threei} limit above current price bruce
[08:01] {bruce} k
[08:02] {bruce} I use smart in if its moving fast
[08:02] {bruce} takes out first isld level
[08:03] {magoo} use ISLD
[08:03] {magoo} or arca
[08:03] {magoo} which brojker?
[08:03] {dino} i use smart bruce, but don't play those types
[08:04] {Threei} bruce, make sure you have Route out boxes checked
[08:04] {bruce} I think I do
[08:04] {magoo} all of them vad?
[08:04] {Threei} yes
[08:04] {magoo} i don't have edga checked
[08:04] {magoo} i should?
[08:05] {Threei} shouldn't matter for NASDAQ stocks... but heck, why take a chance
[08:05] {Threei} it can't hurt
[08:05] {magoo} in default method, u check "follow lev 2"?
[08:05] {Threei} it simply means that any route you use hits everything else, not just this particular route
[08:06] {magoo} u check that?
[08:06] {Threei} no, it's uncheked in mine... not sure what it does
[08:06] {Threei} ask this guy who just popped in
[08:06] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:06] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:06] {LaserDave1} hi guys
[08:07] {magoo} dave, scroll up a few to my vad /
[08:08] {LaserDave1} what is the actualy question
[08:09] {LaserDave1} in a fast moving stock what is the best way to get in?
[08:09] {dino} if a tree falls in the woods
[08:09] {magoo} [11:06] {magoo} in default method, u check "follow lev 2"?
[08:09] {LaserDave1} lol
[08:09] {magoo} in default /
[08:10] {Threei} CTDC trying again
[08:11] {LaserDave1} i dont have that checked
[08:11] {LaserDave1} if you want best levels it is good to have route out inet checked
[08:11] {magoo} ok, in naz box what u got? i have INET
[08:11] {bruce} volumes been dropping
[08:12] {LaserDave1} buy on INET (inside quote) is an awesome key to use
[08:12] {LaserDave1} best key if u ask me
[08:12] {LaserDave1} can trade so fast with it
[08:12] {LaserDave1} if you hit that key it will try to buy
[08:13] {LaserDave1} your default amount of shares at current offer price
[08:13] {Threei} but... will it bring you beer?
[08:13] {LaserDave1} if you are not filled it will tehn cancel
[08:13] {magoo} it will vad
[08:13] {Threei} cool
[08:13] {LaserDave1} all u do is hit it again if you like the next level price
[08:13] {LaserDave1} it is not a market order
[08:13] {LaserDave1} so it wont just fill
[08:13] {LaserDave1} say you want 2000 shares of a fairly thin stock
[08:14] {magoo} LULU read hrere vad?
[08:14] {LaserDave1} it wont just keep clearing levels
[08:14] {LaserDave1} but it is a one touch key
[08:14] {LaserDave1} mine is F4
[08:14] {LaserDave1} so i just hit it
[08:14] {LaserDave1} if i want a zillion shares of a tight stock
[08:14] {LaserDave1} i just tap it a few times
[08:14] {LaserDave1} so fast
[08:14] {magoo} 11:15] {LaserDave1} so i just hit it
[08:14] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:14] {Threei} none here magoo
[08:15] {LaserDave1} the fish again
[08:15] {LaserDave1} then there is the opposite key
[08:15] {magoo} u have nonme...here
[08:15] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[08:15] {dino} drys l .00
[08:15] {markweb} PCAR Vad?
[08:15] {LaserDave1} sell on INET (inside quote)
[08:15] {LaserDave1} does the opposite
[08:15] {LaserDave1} also real qucik to note
[08:16] {dino} stld
[08:16] {LaserDave1} if you are long a stock and want out
[08:16] {LaserDave1} u can hit that key as well
[08:16] {LaserDave1} and it will try to sell all your shares at current inside price
[08:16] {LaserDave1} one touch key
[08:16] {Threei} nothing exciting about it mark
[08:16] {magoo} STLD
[08:16] {magoo} NEWS
[08:16] {markweb} ty
[08:17] {Threei} HEARING STRENGTH BEING ATTRIBUTED TO COMMENTS CONCERNING HIGHER EARNINGS EXPECTATIONS NEXT YEAR
[08:17] {Threei} STLD mags
[08:17] {magoo} TY
[08:19] {dino} waiting at 48.45
[08:19] {magoo} ill go long here and sell um mine lol
[08:19] {bruce} is buy on inet like smart buy dave?
[08:20] {LaserDave1} it will clear out levels if u have rooute oout checked
[08:26] {magoo} vad, u got any READ on STLD?
[08:26] {magoo} easy one for u
[08:26] {dino} stld cx order
[08:26] {Threei} lol
[08:27] {magoo} how about EBAY? reports tonite
[08:29] {Threei} not my cap of tea, pre-earnings plays
[08:29] {ramvfin2003} NUE play?
[08:30] {magoo} ok
[08:30] {Threei} .16 long if holding above 57
[08:30] {magoo} NUE
[08:32] {ramvfin2003} l NUE .17
[08:32] {dino} out drys .30, +.30 too wicked
[08:32] {magoo} go change your diaper dino...office stinx
[08:33] {dino} ctrp
[08:33] {dino} lol
[08:33] {ramvfin2003} target on NUE vad?
[08:33] {magoo} took NUE
[08:33] {magoo} waiting .48
[08:33] {Threei} not sure ram
[08:34] {ramvfin2003} 57 stop right
[08:34] {Threei} just under
[08:34] {ramvfin2003} k
[08:35] {Threei} SQNM again... this stock tortures me
[08:37] {Threei} IMMR??
[08:38] {magoo} man..sh@t just poppin everywhere
[08:38] {dino} sorry 'bout that
[08:38] {Threei} rofl
[08:38] {dino} :)
[08:39] {Threei} 1:1 NUE
[08:40] {magoo} bruce,...lay out somewhere
[08:40] {magoo} don't care where, i at .48
[08:40] {magoo} .44 better bruce
[08:40] {magoo} i there .44
[08:41] {dino} go .43 bruce
[08:41] * magoo slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[08:41] {magoo} thats reserved for vad and i dino...undercutting each other
[08:41] {bruce} I didn't take nue
[08:41] {bruce} gun shy
[08:41] {bruce} volume didn't look compelling
[08:41] {magoo} oh..sorry..it was your call
[08:41] {Threei} IMMR STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO APPLE'S EARLIER ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IT WILL LAUNCH AN IPHONE/ITOUCH DEVELOPER KIT IN FEB.
[08:42] {magoo} i took it
[08:42] {magoo} OUT
[08:42] {ramvfin2003} out .46 NUE
[08:42] {bruce} rams call I think
[08:42] {bruce} worked nice
[08:42] {bruce} congrats gusy
[08:42] {magoo} oh..NICE ram
[08:42] {dino} scor s hl .35
[08:44] {ramvfin2003} l HLIT .03
[08:44] {Threei} SQNM, I sincerely hate you
[08:45] {Chaeron} SQNM scrtches Threei off Christmas card list
[08:45] {ramvfin2003} vad stop on HLIT?
[08:45] {Threei} .89
[08:45] {Threei} ram... something isn't right with your orders... such thick stock as HLIT, there is no reason to yield 3 cents
[08:46] {ramvfin2003} that was my bad, i caught it late
[08:46] {magoo} SQ avail short vad...lets get it lol
[08:46] {magoo} revenge short
[08:50] {Roman} GOAM
[08:50] {Roman} is going to play
[08:51] {magoo} u promise?
[08:52] {Roman} almost
[08:52] {magoo} where u in?
[08:54] {magoo} vad dcc if u here
[08:55] {ramvfin2003} RVBD long?
[08:55] {Roman} i am in swing GOAM
[08:58] {dino} s ctrp .70 hl, darn partial
[08:58] {dino} ok
[08:58] {ramvfin2003} missed RVBD
[08:59] {Chaeron} nice GOAM
[08:59] {dino} rvbd
[09:04] {Threei} NINE?
[09:04] {ramvfin2003} NVDA play?
[09:05] {Threei} no read on NVDA
[09:11] {ramvfin2003} out hlit
[09:11] {bruce} csx approaching hod
[09:12] {bruce} worth trying long?
[09:12] {magoo} sh STLD loss 48
[09:12] {magoo} half lot if triggs
[09:13] {Threei} no feel for CSX at all
[09:13] {bruce} k - no feel no play
[09:13] {magoo} sound like my wife last nite bruce
[09:14] {bruce} lol
[09:14] {magoo} in STLD
[09:15] {bruce} what is stld stop?
[09:17] {magoo} needs mkt help
[09:19] {bruce} s stld 48.02
[09:20] {bruce} is .25 stop enough?
[09:20] {magoo} .21 bruce
[09:20] {magoo} stop
[09:20] {bruce} k
[09:21] {magoo} half right?
[09:21] {bruce} yup
[09:21] {bruce} small
[09:21] {ramvfin2003} u guys r short stld?
[09:21] {magoo} yes, butit triggerd than went up
[09:21] {magoo} so careful
[09:21] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:21] {magoo} i saw .88 prints
[09:22] {magoo} thought we had it
[09:22] {bruce} need bette than .88 to justify trade
[09:22] {bruce} yeah
[09:22] {bruce} loked like it would tank
[09:23] {magoo} yep...looked like we were gonna get a point
[09:23] {ramvfin2003} yhoo play?
[09:24] {Threei} I'd look for short on bounce YHOO
[09:24] {ramvfin2003} keep us posted big boss man
[09:24] {ramvfin2003} lol
[09:26] {magoo} then why don't u boss he he?
[09:26] {magoo} naz helping us bruce
[09:27] {bruce} yup
[09:27] {bruce} so far so good
[09:27] {magoo} don't jinx us
[09:27] {bruce} exit target?
[09:27] {magoo} .56
[09:27] {ramvfin2003} YHOO short here..finger on the trigger
[09:28] {Threei} roman, what are you looking for in GOAM?
[09:28] {Threei} looks interesting
[09:28] {Roman} i am in swing looking for $10
[09:28] {bruce} out .15
[09:29] {bruce} thanx mags
[09:29] {Roman} today hard to say with NQ, looks like we are going to cluse red
[09:29] {Threei} good one guys
[09:29] {dino} wtg bruce
[09:29] {ramvfin2003} gj guys
[09:29] {bruce} + .87
[09:29] {magoo} out .39 u beat me NICE
[09:29] {bruce} lucky
[09:29] {magoo} welcome bruce
[09:31] {magoo} + 63, but i had 700 sh lol
[09:32] {bruce} 200 here
[09:32] {bruce} still very nice
[09:32] {magoo} xcellently played is tthe point...vad should agree
[09:33] {dino} cov ctrp .05, +.65
[09:34] {dino} who is this vad you speak of
[09:35] {bruce} great read magoo- still looked to me like it could go north or south
[09:35] {ramvfin2003} vad quite today...under the weather?
[09:35] {dino} cov scor .80, +.55
[09:36] {bruce} how did you pick short as higher probablitiy?
[09:36] {Threei} just don't feel like working ram {G}
[09:37] {dino} slacker
[09:37] {ramvfin2003} lol
[09:38] {magoo} bruce, i was watching the lev 2,...interest is dying ...up huge...needs to breathe..hence down
[09:38] {magoo} feels lower..not in
[09:39] {bruce} k
[09:39] {dino} coin flip bruce, imo, just keep your stop
[09:40] {dino} imo of course
[09:40] {magoo} oh yeah..flip a coin right now dino...ill tell u whats coming
[09:40] {bruce} I do dino - just pick wrong too often
[09:41] {dino} need a new coin, come to the dark side bruce
[09:41] {bruce} lol
[09:41] {bruce} I like shoprting
[09:41] {magoo} dark side better..lower electric bill
[09:41] {bruce} they work faster
[09:41] {magoo} dino makes us trade with no l,ights on in office
[09:42] {magoo} eyes adjust
[09:42] {bruce} evil glare from screen radiation
[09:42] {dino} you're lucky i let you use the air conditioner little man
[09:43] {dino} over daily, taken a 15 min break
[09:43] {bruce} the complimetns are flying n ow
[09:43] {dino} you can see we were raised on positive reinforcement
[09:44] {ramvfin2003} tempted to go short on STLD here
[09:46] {dino} wants 48.40ish imo
[09:47] {magoo} NO RAM
[09:47] {magoo} could bounce
[09:47] {ramvfin2003} k
[09:51] {ramvfin2003} anyone long STLD?
[09:52] {Threei} YHOO around resistance
[09:53] {Threei} if NQ reverses to downside again, this should be nice spot to look for short entry
[09:55] {bruce} short yhoo here w stop to .62?
[09:55] {Threei} yup
[09:56] {magoo} sh in
[09:58] {magoo} ram..see why no long up there ?
[09:58] {bruce} s yahoo .53
[10:00] {ramvfin2003} yes
[10:05] {magoo} yhoo held that naz sell too well vad
[10:05] {magoo} out + .02
[10:06] {Threei} that was the case earlier too, that's why I wanted bounce rather than breakdown
[10:06] {magoo} well..now look
[10:06] {dino} collapse coming
[10:06] {bruce} out .40
[10:06] {dino} mkt that is
[10:10] {ramvfin2003} NVDA short?
[10:12] {Threei} nah
[10:12] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:12] {magoo} are we down 165?
[10:12] {Threei} Dow, yes
[10:12] {Threei} COMPX is still green
[10:13] {dptl} dow-80.23
[10:14] {ramvfin2003} STLD long?
[10:14] {Threei} why?
[10:15] {ramvfin2003} seems to bouce off of 47.50-.55 few times just my opinion
[10:15] {Threei} but it's 30 cents from there
[10:16] {ramvfin2003} not when i asked
[10:17] {Threei} well... if it moves that much within 1 min, how timely my answer can be? :)
[10:18] {ramvfin2003} lol..ask my new wife how much i can accomplish in a min.....lol
[10:18] {Threei} I better not :)
[10:18] {ramvfin2003} ha
[10:19] {magoo} sounds like what romans wife says he he
[10:22] {dino} lol
[10:23] {magoo} dam..i was watching wrong stock he he
[10:25] {magoo} dino does that all the time...thats why he always responds to compliments " just lucky"...damm right...pulls trigg on wrong stock and it worx lol
[10:25] {bruce} 2 to 1 for you in yhoo vad
[10:26] {Threei} yup
[10:27] {bruce} really tookm its time following market
[10:27] {dino} down we go
[10:29] {dino} sqnm hl s .38, stop .66
[10:29] {dino} vdsi fall
[10:29] {Threei} my disliking of the gap in the morning was justified
[10:30] {magoo} u can say that again
[10:32] {magoo} ill do it for u
[10:32] {magoo} 13:31] {Threei} my disliking of the gap in the morning was justified
[10:32] {magoo} [13:31] {magoo} u can s
[10:34] {Threei} ty
[10:36] {bruce} qs and dow trying to bounce
[10:36] {bruce} pretty pathetic so far though
[10:38] {ramvfin2003} missed yhoo short, should i short this bounce?
[10:39] {Threei} not before .50...
[10:39] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:39] {Threei} GEOI
[10:40] {Threei} something's going on
[10:42] {dino} hl l vdsi .20
[10:43] {dino} sqnm bstop to .35
[10:43] {Threei} REMINDER: FED'S BEIGE BOOK DUE OUT AT 2PMET
[10:43] {Threei} - economy continues to expand; impact on ecomony is limited outside of housing
[10:43] {Threei} - Fed's sees little change in overall price pressures since July report
[10:43] {Threei} - Retail sales "generally positive"
[10:43] {Threei} - Most districts saw "modest" job gains vs similar views expressed in July
[10:43] {Threei} - Tighter credit "clouds housing outlook"; recent distress in the financial markets has "deepened" the housing slowdown
[10:46] {Threei} not for faint hearts... if this GEOI offer gets taken, likely to explode
[10:48] {ramvfin2003} ach long?
[10:49] {Threei} closer to 84 I'd think
[10:49] {ramvfin2003} k
[10:50] {dino} sqnm cov .28,, +.10
[10:52] {markweb} CTRP, dino?
[10:52] {dino} vdsi stopped -.36
[10:52] {dino} missed it mark
[10:52] {ramvfin2003} l ach 84.10
[10:52] {dino} at ,49
[10:53] {dino} .
[10:53] {markweb} me to
[10:54] {Threei} market continues downticking ram, why go long
[10:54] {magoo} end of world it seems
[10:57] {Threei} use this bounce to get out and consider it a gift
[10:57] {ramvfin2003} out
[10:57] {Threei} I am telling you... walking heart attack
[10:58] {Threei} don't buy price alone, watch for confirmation, for market help
[10:58] {Threei} price level is where you need to be ready
[10:58] {Threei} but it's not the sole reason for entry
[10:59] {dino} hl l drys .75 wide
[11:00] {Threei} FED'S BEIGE BOOK: GROWH DECELERATED IN SEP AND EARLY OCT
[11:00] {Threei} GIGA?
[11:00] {magoo} quotes down
[11:02] {ramvfin2003} out ACH 85.35
[11:03] {Threei} - home sales slowed with inventories higher
[11:03] {Threei} - weaker Dollar makes imports more expensive
[11:03] {Threei} - housing may remain subdued for several months
[11:03] {Threei} - consumer spending grew at a slower pace since Aug
[11:03] {Threei} - Firms see 'higher than usual' economic uncertainty
[11:03] {Threei} - Most Fed banks saw lower home sales, prices
[11:03] {Threei} - Competition holding retail prices in check, retail sales softening, outlook uncertain
[11:03] {Threei} - Labor Markets are tight, 'modest' wage pressures
[11:07] {Threei} GIGA frenzy
[11:12] {magoo} LULU on another planet
[11:13] {Threei} sheesh... with this name I wouldn't be in this universe even
[11:13] {Threei} you expect any kind of reality from stock called LULU?
[11:27] {dino} algt
[11:35] {ramvfin2003} giga play?
[11:36] {Threei} pure momo... can't tell
[11:40] {Threei} US TREASURY'S MCCORMICK: FINANCIAL CONDITIONS ARE STABILIZING IN SOME MARKETS
[11:40] {Threei} - Notes issues raised by recent turmoil are complex, cannot rush to judgement
[11:40] {Threei} - Says G7 to discuss implications of sovereign wealth funds for stability of world financial system
[11:40] {Threei} - Says US to stress importance of IMF role in surveillance of global exchange rates
[11:56] {ramvfin2003} YHOO long?
[11:57] {dino} ctrp holds well
[11:59] {Threei} I think so ram
[11:59] {Threei} .45 stop
[12:00] {dino} back in 15
[12:08] {Threei} COCO
[12:08] {Threei} DISCLOSES SEARCH WARRANT ISSUED AT FLORIDA CAMPUS - FILING
[12:08] {Threei} - Co. cooperating, yet not informed by action has been taken against it, or why similiar actions have been take against other institutions in the area
[12:09] {magoo} back
[12:09] {magoo} any setups vad??
[12:09] {Threei} LULU: what gravity? You have gravity in your world?
[12:10] {dino} lol dys gets me out at 119.35, +.60, while out
[12:10] {Threei} that's disgusting
[12:10] {Threei} dino makes money not even being here
[12:10] {dino} lucky
[12:11] {dino} ctrp spike coming, imo
[12:11] {Threei} I am intrigued by GEOI still magoo
[12:11] {magoo} used to be a real player remember
[12:11] {magoo} with able
[12:11] {Threei} right
[12:11] {Threei} ABLE is no more
[12:12] {magoo} yep
[12:13] {Threei} anyone thinking of a joke along the line unABLE etc, it's too obvious
[12:13] {Threei} it's my prerogative to make such lame jokes
[12:13] {dino} hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[12:14] {Threei} YHOO's working
[12:15] {magoo} where was yhoo entry?
[12:15] {Threei} 10-11 cents ago
[12:23] {Threei} FORMER FED CHMN GREENSPAN: NO IMMINENT DANGER IN WEAKENING DOLLAR - INTERVIEW IN CZECH NEWSPAPER
[12:23] {Threei} - Odds of US recession are around 50% at most-reiterating comments
[12:23] {Threei} - Says crises like the credit crunch this year are impossible to eliminate and may become more frequent
[12:23] {Threei} - Says cannot see the end of US economy woes, depends on property market recovery
[12:23] {Threei} I am crying
[12:24] {bruce} nows thge time to buy REal estate vad
[12:24] {Threei} in USA? :)
[12:24] {bruce} 2 years ago it was hyped in all the media to buy
[12:25] {bruce} yuppers
[12:25] {bruce} buy when gloom and doom
[12:27] {dino} buy when the blood flows
[12:32] {dino} missed ctrp 3 x
[12:36] {Threei} GOAM is picking up interest again
[12:38] {magoo} ebay tonight
[12:39] {Threei} funny thing about today is, it still hasn't allowed to judge the further direction
[12:39] {dino} risky, hl s stld .01
[12:40] {Threei} while critical support level at 2150 remains untagged still, move into resistance happened in a wy that made all but imposible to get follow through
[12:40] {Threei} and retreat while expected, wasn't as deep as to indicate failure
[12:40] {Threei} so, uncertainty continues
[12:43] {dino} bstop is .27 stld
[12:44] {dino} stopped -.26
[12:45] {dino} usat
[12:49] {dino} hl s .18, stop .46
[12:55] {Threei} I remain 52% bullish as of the end of today
[12:55] {Threei} no... 51.85%
[12:56] {dino} coin toss 'eh
[12:56] {bruce} I remain confused, as usual
[12:57] {Threei} NQ finishes almost at the high
[12:57] {dino} maybe you're overthinking it. i drive magoo crazy coming in late and having no clue
[12:57] {Threei} so I have to give this 1.85% preference to bullish side
[12:57] {bruce} nice call in yahoo long vad
[12:58] {bruce} I thought it wuld drop further todaqy
[12:58] {dino} cov usat .01, +.17
[12:58] {Threei} you took it ram?
[12:59] {dino} good day all thanks for ideas
[12:59] {Threei} thank you all
[12:59] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow for more confusion
[12:59] {ramvfin2003} good night all
[12:59] {Threei} both GOAM and GEOI on watch
[13:00] {bruce} geoi looks awful thin
[13:01] {Threei} always was this way
[13:01] {Threei} it's a small oil stock
[13:01] {Threei} horribly volatile
[13:01] {Threei} totally explosive when catches momentum
[13:01] {bruce} 37k volume for day
[13:02] {Threei} and this is not the worst day for it :)
[13:02] {bruce} could move big either way
[13:02] {Threei} sooo... what about EBAY
[13:03] {bruce} nice closing volume in ebay
[13:03] {bruce} thanx all
[13:03] {Threei} MOGN REPORTS Q3 $0.13 V $0.12E, R$112.5 V $108.5ME
[13:03] {bruce} se you in am
[13:04] {Threei} ARNA REPORTS Q3 $0. V -$0.71E, R$5M V $6.4ME
[13:05] {dino} qcom
[13:05] {Threei} anyone sticks around to wait for ebay?
[13:05] {dptl} me
[13:05] {dino} new trial maybe
[13:05] {dino} gotta hop, take care all
[13:05] {Threei} CTXS REPORTS Q3 $0.41 V $0.38E, R$ V $340ME- Guides Q4 R$ v $373Me{FFIV}
[13:05] {bruce} you going to trade it post market vad?
[13:06] {Threei} if it's tradeable
[13:06] {bruce} k
[13:06] {bruce} I'm game
[13:06] {bruce} said the rabbit
[13:06] {Threei} lol
[13:07] {magoo} i guress it pops up
[13:07] {magoo} last nite i hit yhoo for 2 bux, but only 400 shares
[13:07] {magoo} in 27.44 out 29.2ish
[13:08] {Threei} nice
[13:08] {Threei} hmmm... CTXS
[13:08] {bruce} yes
[13:08] {Threei} report didn't look bad
[13:08] {Threei} strange dump, then big recovery
[13:11] {magoo} ty vad for today, i had a triple goal day
[13:11] {Threei} wow, nice
[13:11] {magoo} took hit yesterday, but made up tofday
[13:12] {magoo} why jade moving
[13:13] {Threei} auditor resigns, accounting issues, you name it
[13:13] {Threei} POS
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