Thursday, January 15, 2009

Jan 15 2009

Finally - after three days of boredom and lukewarm performance, today we got it right. Day started out pretty much in the same key - couple scalps, couple stops... then IDCC short brought 40 cents and AMZN long gave 50, so the day immediately become nice and bright.


Session Time: Thu Jan 15 00:00:00 2009

[04:04] {fernp} this is a link to a video (2 minutes) showing how to configure the old (and free) mIRC to connect to the new server
[04:04] {fernp} http://www.screencast.com/t/Wj9rVYsgPP3
[04:04] {fernp} hope will be helpful for those who have not been able to connect to the new server using mirc
[04:04] {fernp} good morning from Spain
[07:25] {Onix} Good morning
[07:25] {Threei}  hi onix
[07:25] {Threei}  you managed to switch to mirc yet?
[07:26] {Onix} not yet, thats why i am up so early :/
[07:27] {Onix} i need you or KS to assist me please
[07:27] {Threei}  [04:04] {fernp} this is a link to a video (2 minutes) showing how to configure the old (and free) mIRC to connect to the new server
[07:27] {Threei}  [04:04] {fernp} http://www.screencast.com/t/Wj9rVYsgPP3
[07:27] {Onix} thanks
[07:48] {Onix} what happened to that video link?
[07:49] {Threei}  what do you mean?
[07:49] {Threei}  it's there
[07:49] {larisa} good morning threei, onix :)
[07:50] {Threei}  larisa :)
[07:50] {Threei}  I am viewing it right now
[07:50] {Onix} i went out and did all as directed in the the little video
[07:50] {Onix} but am not so if i must be on the old or the new site
[07:51] {Onix} sure
[07:52] {Threei}  you lost me :)
[07:52] {Onix} i came back to this new site and the link you gave me earlier is not here?
[07:52] {Threei}  http://www.screencast.com/t/Wj9rVYsgPP3
[07:52] {Threei}  it's here, it's just that there is no replay
[07:53] {Onix} thanks, thats OK
[07:53] {Onix} so, all i have to do is go into the old site and make all the changes while staying logged into this new site?
[07:54] {Threei}  you need to open old mirc if you still have it, and configure it as shown in video,
[07:55] {Threei}  in order to connect to this room you need to disconnect your mibbit, otherwise you will get a message that your username is already in use
[07:55] {larisa} lol! you had to do video for the new MIRC setup ?
[07:55] {Onix} thats what happened
[07:56] {Threei}  fernp did, to help those who have troubles following pdf file
[07:56] {Threei}  and KS is going to do the same for new mirc
[07:56] {larisa} nice :)
[07:56] {Onix} where can i find the pdf file please?
[07:57] {Threei}  you have old mirc or new mirc?
[07:57] {Onix} both?
[07:58] {Threei}  ok, if you want to use old - use video instructions
[07:58] {Threei}  if new - pdf, http://www.realitytrader.com/mIRC%20room%20connection.pdf
[07:59] {Onix} thanks
[08:08] {_cujo} good morning
[08:13] {Threei}  cujo :)
[08:17] {i2romantis} morning all :)
[08:17] {Threei}  i2r :)
[08:17] {Threei}  REPORTEDLY, STEVE JOBS HAS NO RECURRENCE OF CANCER - NYT
[08:17] {Threei}  - Reminder: On 01/14, AAPL Sent media advisory, Steve Jobs notes health issues more complex than thought, will take medical leave of absence until June
[08:20] {_cujo} story with Jobs seems to change daily...
[08:20] {Threei}  yeah, one of those neverending sagas
[08:20] {Threei}  like YHOO/MSFT
[08:21] {_cujo} yeah, you see there being knee jerk selling right at open?
[08:21] {Threei}  anyone's guess
[08:22] {Threei}  bearishness is in the air
[08:22] {_cujo} :)
[08:24] {Threei}  JPM CEO DIMON: STILL EXPECTS $1B FROM BEAR STERNS IN 2009, PRIME BROKERAGE IS DOING VERY WELL - CONF CALL
[08:24] {Threei}  - Banks are actively out making loans, some banks continue to make loans to each other. TARP is helping this process.
[08:24] {Threei}  - We are trying to follow the intent and spirit of TARP
[08:25] {Threei}  {BEAR STERNS} somebody is still expecting something from us?
[08:26] {Threei}  my favorite part though is this:
[08:26] {Threei}  banks continue to make loans to each other
[08:26] {Threei}  aren't we glad they care about each other so deeply? isn't it touching?
[08:30] {Threei}  DEC PRODUCER PRICE INDEX M/M: -1.9% V -2.0%E; PPI EX FOOD&ENERGY M/M: % V 0.1%E
[08:30] {Threei}  NITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 524K V 503KE;
[08:30] {Threei}  CONTINUING CLAIMS: 4.497M V 4.611ME
[08:31] {Threei}  JAN EMPIRE MANUFACTURING: -22.20 V -25.0E
[08:34] {Threei}  not sure what in those numbers caused such enthusiasm
[08:34] {Threei}  initial claims are up once again
[08:35] {Threei}  continuing are down a bit but is it because people find job or stop looking?
[08:38] {nemo} mornin'
[08:38] {Threei}  nemo :)
[08:38] {_cujo} morning nemo
[08:38] {nemo} actually :( sick as a dog
[08:39] {nemo} anyway to see stuff I missed cujo :) (funny greetig a rabid dog that way)
[08:39] {Threei}  [08:30] {Threei} DEC PRODUCER PRICE INDEX M/M: -1.9% V -2.0%E; PPI EX FOOD&ENERGY M/M: % V 0.1%E
[08:39] {Threei}  [08:30] {Threei} NITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 524K V 503KE;
[08:39] {Threei}  [08:30] {Threei} CONTINUING CLAIMS: 4.497M V 4.611ME
[08:39] {Threei}  [08:31] {Threei} JAN EMPIRE MANUFACTURING: -22.20 V -25.0E
[08:40] {_cujo} ha ha ha
[08:40] {nemo} thanks, bark! bark!
[08:44] {Threei}  any luck Onix?
[08:50] {nemo} Tag Herrn Ksystems
[08:52] {KSystems} hey :)
[08:53] {peterg} morning all
[08:53] {peterg} Thanks for looking for me yesterday vad but I was off
[08:53] {peterg} Now, ks, lets take a look!
[08:54] {Threei}  hi peter
[08:54] {Threei}  try this:
[08:54] {Threei}  [04:04] {fernp} this is a link to a video (2 minutes) showing how to configure the old (and free) mIRC to connect to the new server
[08:54] {Threei}  [04:04] {fernp} http://www.screencast.com/t/Wj9rVYsgPP3
[08:56] {ese} morning.......ok get this .....while logging onto the reality trader web page i was trying to scrole down to the chat room log on.....I accidentally grabbed vads picture at the top of the page....realeased it.....and I was staring at a gigantic size Vad on my screen.....talk about big brother!!!!
[08:57] {Threei}  ese, that must be scary... and very traumatizing experience
[08:57] {ese} holy canoly..........your everywhere vad
[08:57] {peterg} ok jhave to download new adobe browser, shut off everything else back soon 
[08:57] {Threei}  I for one try not to look in the mirror for about couple hours before going to sleep
[08:58] {Threei}  adobe broswer?
[08:58] {hawkfan4} lol, morning all
[08:58] {Threei}  hawk :)
[08:59] {peterg} yes
[08:59] {Threei}  no such thing...
[09:00] {patience} good morning RT, how are pre-markets this morning?
[09:00] {Threei}  was down more... now down less
[09:00] {Threei}  but still down
[09:00] {nemo} vad, maybe you should wear the ski mask when you're at home...
[09:01] {Threei}  it's an open question what is scarier, nemo
[09:02] {nemo} It's not for me to judge.  trying to be helpful
[09:05] {cosmo} ASML
[09:06] {ese} saw that as well cas
[09:06] {ese} cos
[09:07] {Threei}  01/15/09 01:01am
[09:07] {Threei}  [ASML.NV] ASML Holdings Reports Q4 Net -88M v -35Me, R 494M v 477Me
[09:07] {Threei}  - Guides Q1 Net Sales 180-200M v 249Me (guidance on Q1 sales was 180-250M) Gross Margins "around" 8%
[09:07] {Threei}  - Q4 New Machine bookings 13 units, book value 127M
[09:07] {Threei}  - Q4 Backlog 755M
[09:07] {Threei}  - Took restructuring and impairment charges in the Q4 of 138M
[09:07] {ese} reports loss bigger than expected....what else is new these days
[09:07] {geo} gm all
[09:07] {Threei}  07:06am [ASML.NV] ASML Holdings CFO: Expects to be cash positive this year, 450M break-even point corresponds with 20-25 unit sales - conf call more.. 07:06am [ASML.NV] ASML Holdings CFO: Expects to be cash positive this year, 450M break-even point corresponds with 20-25 unit sales - conf call
[09:07] {Threei}  - Not mulling partial buy back of 2017 bond.
[09:07] {Threei}  - To cut R&D investments if clients indicate cuts in their R&D.
[09:07] {Threei}  geo :)
[09:08] {ese} this is a good sign though re ASML......when stocks start going up after reporting bad news
[09:09] {ese} geo
[09:09] {cosmo} :)
[09:11] {lisa_jay} Good morning 
[09:12] {KSystems} good morning!
[09:13] {dptl} gm all
[09:14] {dino} gm all
[09:14] {Threei}  lisa, dp, dino :)
[09:15] {dino} :)
[09:16] {fernp} hello everybody
[09:16] {Threei}  fern :)
[09:16] {Threei}  thank you for your help earlier
[09:17] {fernp} welcome :)
[09:17] {Threei}  I am overwhelmed by mutual support
[09:17] {Threei}  for those who are stuggling with mirc configuration:
[09:17] {Threei}  [04:04] {fernp} this is a link to a video (2 minutes) showing how to configure the old (and free) mIRC to connect to the new server
[09:17] {Threei}  [04:04] {fernp} http://www.screencast.com/t/Wj9rVYsgPP3
[09:17] {wishbone}  good morning ks....is there a way to turn these messages off?* peterg (Mibbit@jtc-db5af7fb.static.iphouse.net) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[09:18] {KSystems} yes
[09:18] {fernp} old version IT IS compatible with my router
[09:18] {KSystems} look on the top bar
[09:18] {KSystems} where the channel names are listed
[09:18] {KSystems} right-click them
[09:18] {KSystems} click events
[09:18] {KSystems} and select what you want to see
[09:20] {wishbone} ok ty ks
[09:20] {Threei}  REPORTEDLY HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE CIRULATING AN $825B STIMULUS PACKAGE
[09:22] {cosmo} ASML should hold 16.10
[09:23] {cosmo} 16.30 pre mkt high
[09:26] {elepet} good morning. i checked in earlier and then got lost in the depths of trying to make MIRC work, and when i came back here, all messages earlier than 6:11 have gone. anything important?
[09:27] {peterg} any luck mirc?
[09:27] {peterg} Dino, magoo, mirc?
[09:27] {Threei}  no elepet
[09:27] {Threei}  you tried that video peter?
[09:28] {peterg} yes
[09:28] {Threei}  and?
[09:28] {elepet} I tried video and it did not help.
[09:28] {peterg} its for the old model, i deleted it
[09:28] {Threei}  KS will prepare same video for new mirc
[09:28] {dino} peter, i'll try after close
[09:29] {peterg} went back in time and found old model, now looking for video
[09:29] {Threei}  or if you prefer I can upload old for you
[09:29] {peterg} so far over hour +++ spent having fun
[09:29] {Threei}  http://www.screencast.com/t/Wj9rVYsgPP3
[09:29] {dino} magoo m.i.a. so far
[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  AMZN  .90 break half lot if stays above .70
[09:34] {Threei}  not holding
[09:36] {nemo} understatement
[09:37] {Threei}  DRYS is finally coming into that 14, with two days delay
[09:39] {peterg} coming along, can I use nick on both mbt and mirc simultaneously?
[09:39] {peterg} Says already in use on mirc
[09:39] {Threei}  no
[09:39] {Threei}  one connection with one nick
[09:39] {peterg} ok so bye for now here. hopefully see you later
[09:41] {dino} ndx breaking yesterday lod
[09:42] {dino} dji, s/p too
[09:43] {cosmo} ASML tests hod
[09:44] {cosmo} salmon   
[09:44] {Threei}  brutal selling DRYS
[09:44] {geo} vad is there a way to reach dave apart from mirc?
[09:45] {Threei}  phone
[09:45] {geo} ty
[09:45] {dino} dec lows dji broken
[09:45] {fernp} RIMM broke lod
[09:46] {Threei}  VRSN is almost indecently happy
[09:48] {Threei}  one more leg down on DRYS, then bounce hunting in order
[09:48] {Threei}  or half lot on .50 break
[09:48] {Threei}  if holding .30
[09:48] {Threei}  I'd prefer another drop
[09:49] {peterg} back
[09:49] {KSystems} theres your drop
[09:50] {KSystems} sort of
[09:50] {Threei}  yeah, more or less holding
[09:50] {KSystems} still valid .50 ?
[09:50] {Threei}  yes
[09:50] {KSystems} in
[09:51] {fernp} stop under .25?
[09:51] {Threei}  yup
[09:52] {Threei}  if takes this offer at .50 should be fine
[09:52] {dino} -11% dji, ndx; -12%s&p since 01/06
[09:52] {Threei}  market strengthened a bit
[09:53] {dino} getting a bit extreme
[09:53] {Threei}  come on DRYS, show how you can do it
[09:55] {Threei}  ASML new high
[09:55] {KSystems} i hope noone of you had a stop market order above .50 drys
[09:55] {Threei}  good boy DRYS, don't stop now
[09:56] {Threei}  that would be a suicidal tyope of order
[09:57] {Threei}  ok, half out DRYS
[09:57] {Threei}  scaloers know what to do
[10:03] {KSystems} stop to under .70?
[10:03] {Threei}  a bit too tight IMO
[10:03] {KSystems} hrmm ok
[10:03] {Threei}  under .60 is my preference
[10:03] {Threei}  but it's a kind of personal preference
[10:03] {KSystems} you were so right
[10:04] {KSystems} would have rinsed me
[10:04] {Threei}  still may...
[10:05] {Threei}  it's just that knowing DRYS personality I want to give it a chance to show the character
[10:05] {Threei}  it can go to 13 or to 14.5
[10:06] {Threei}  and with profit protected, I am comfortable with sacrificing second half
[10:06] {Threei}  if you aren't, just take profit
[10:06] {Threei}  market sharp drop again
[10:07] {Threei}  good test for DRYS
[10:07] {Threei}  either it can hold against it or who needs it
[10:11] {Threei}  REPORTEDLY US HOUSE STIMULUS BILL INCLUDES $20B FOR ALTERNATIVE ENERGY TAX CREDITS AND CUTS
[10:13] {KSystems} out drys
[10:13] {Threei}  yup
[10:14] {KSystems} DRYS - in .53 - out 1/2 .74 - out rest .56
[10:15] {peterg} back; adress banned from mirc, whatever that means. Got in, got password, could see names, then rejected. Man there is only so much of this I can take
[10:15] {peterg} thanks for help fernp
[10:15] {fernp} :)
[10:15] {peterg} two hours of rejection plus trying to make a buck
[10:15] {peterg} yikes
[10:16] {Threei}  I would think it's an after-hours work
[10:16] {Threei}  KS stayd here to help
[10:16] {peterg} yes--the mibbit thing has a conflict with laser
[10:16] {KSystems} nobody needs me *wheep
[10:16] {peterg} whenever I click on laser, mibbit disappears.
[10:16] {peterg} talk about ridiculous
[10:16] {ese} peter.....your butt must be sore by now?
[10:17] {peterg} it is not my butt that is maximally sore............
[10:17] {peterg} but I will calm down
[10:17] {geo} too much detail
[10:17] {peterg} slowly
[10:17] {peterg} you mistake my meaning
[10:18] {peterg} my head is sore; I am a sore-head
[10:18] {wishbone} peter you can install small program that will keep mibitt on top of laser: keep on top.exe
[10:19] {wishbone} if you like can send website
[10:19] {peterg} pls!
[10:19] {peterg} I think you did this yesterday, too, wish, but I din't get it.
[10:20] {wishbone} http://www.delayedreaction.com/freestuff/index.html
[10:20] {wishbone} d/l keep on top
[10:20] {wishbone} have laser and mibitt running
[10:21] {wishbone} run keep on top and select mibbit from scroll down and click keep on top, minimize keep on top
[10:24] {patience} ou est magoosky?
[10:25] {larisa} are we interested in PLD at 10 ?
[10:25] {Threei}  depends... certainly worth watching
[10:26] {Threei}  C goes to zero or what
[10:27] {Threei}  both C and BAC are shortable...
[10:27] {nemo} market kinda' like a black diamond piste
[10:27] {ese} either that or this turns out to be a double botom.... 
[10:27] {Threei}  let's see if we get some worthy bounce
[10:27] {dino}  gs bloody too
[10:28] {peterg} well thank g*d for that program, my sanity will hold out because the chat now does not disappear with every single gddmn keystroke!!Many thanks wishbone!!
[10:29] {peterg} Now I can seethe in some comfort and style
[10:29] {wishbone} thank jmb...he hooked me up. glad your suffering is over, I went thru the same thing:)
[10:30] {peterg} Thanks JMB
[10:30] {geo} free software is always more work
[10:30] {peterg} yes mother
[10:30] {wishbone} ya peter you'll have to do this everytime you set up laser and mibittt
[10:30] {geo} i would have raher used paltalk but vad did not want users to pay a monthly charge.... 
[10:30] {Threei}  IMF: NOTES THAT RECESSION IN EU IS LIKELY TO STEEPEN, ECB RATE CUT LEVEL WAS APPROPRIATE
[10:31] {geo} and he is he bossman
[10:31] {peterg} I hope MIRC oneday
[10:31] {peterg} I like the simplicity of the program
[10:32] {Threei}  anyone wants to be nickeled and dimed on additional software monthly chagres??
[10:32] {geo} i get it vad :)
[10:32] {Threei}  you are practically set up peter, it must be some small error at the end
[10:32] {geo} i am just pointing out the reason why 
[10:32] {peterg} I almost got it
[10:32] {Threei}  mistype of password
[10:32] {KSystems} what instructions did you follow peter
[10:33] {wishbone} btw geo thnks for the mirc tutorial, never would have figured out the install without it....
[10:33] {peterg} Tried new and old MIRC; fernp movie, pluss per4wsonal help when she found me locke3de into the old room
[10:33] {peterg} can I try at night?
[10:33] {geo} fernp is a she?
[10:34] {KSystems} sure server will be up
[10:34] {peterg} I dont know; possibly false assumption
06[10:34] * geo will watch his language
[10:34] {fernp} no geo
[10:34] {geo} lol
[10:34] {larisa} you still have to watch it geo :)
[10:34] {Threei}  lol
[10:34] {Threei}  C...
[10:34] {geo} i had that coming
[10:34] {Threei}  3.40 breakdown for short.
[10:35] {KSystems} in
[10:35] {Threei}  with stop above .50
[10:35] {geo} lot?
[10:35] {Threei}  thing keeps getting hammered
[10:35] {wishbone} c approaching november low
[10:35] {Threei}  10 cents stop geo?
[10:35] {geo} sorry
[10:37] {Threei}  BAC is bouncing
[10:38] {Threei}  C not so much
[10:39] {Threei}  one of these breakdowns must become a final one
[10:39] {Threei}  nail in the coffin so to speak
[10:39] {Threei}  descending triangle
[10:40] {Threei}  ugh
[10:40] {KSystems} stopped
[10:40] {wishbone} stopped c
[10:40] {fernp} stopped
[10:42] {geo} dcc pls vad when time
[10:47] {lisa_jay} ESE DCC please if you have a minute.  Thanks.
[10:48] {nemo} jpm caught bis
[10:48] {nemo} bids  damn "d" key
[10:53] {hawkfan4} SQNM .05 break part II, stop under .90 if it triggers
[10:53] {dino} capitulation bounce maybe
[10:56] {Threei}  larisa, you took PLD off 10?
[10:56] {wishbone} ese checked out your website last nite.....
[11:00] {larisa} I did, but sold for +.15 . Did not like that bottom at 10
[11:03] {Threei}  FORMER FED MEMBER VOLCKER: FINANCIAL SYSTEM NEEDS OVERSIGHT, COMPENSATION LED TO EXCESSIVE RISK TAKING
[11:05] {geo} hello back
[11:06] {geo} am i connected?
[11:06] {Threei}  yes
[11:10] {dptl} .
[11:11] {nemo} oops missed C&H on JPM
[11:12] {Threei}  it's right back into trigger
[11:12] {nemo} like New England weather, wait a minute, it'll change
[11:13] {wishbone} has anyone ever had laser error: executor connection lost, and have to log back in?
[11:13] {wishbone} happens when entering orders
[11:13] {Threei}  sign of your connection going down
[11:13] {Threei}  at some point earlier
[11:13] {wishbone} still have graphs and level 2 data
[11:14] {Threei}  yes
[11:14] {Threei}  they reconnect automatically
[11:14] {wishbone} don't know connection is lost until i try to enter order
[11:14] {Threei}  executor doesn't
[11:14] {wishbone} oh
[11:14] {wishbone} can i set alert my executor connection is lost?
[11:15] {Threei}  no idea, sorry... you'll have to ask dave
[11:15] {wishbone} ok thanks anyway
[11:15] {Threei}  JPM is trying to bounce off 26
[11:15] {nemo} And now, for a Mrs. Lincoln moment:
[11:15] {nemo} LONDON (Reuters) - Societe Generale said on Thursday that the United States' economy looks likely to enter a depression and China's could implode.
[11:15] {nemo} In a highly bearish note, veteran cross asset strategist Albert Edwards said investors should now cut equity exposure after a turn-of-the-year rally and prepare for a rout.
[11:15] {nemo} He predicted that the S&P 500 index of U.S. stocks could be set for a fall of around 40 percent from recent levels.
[11:16] {wishbone} vad do u run connection thru router or directly to modem
[11:16] {Threei}  router
[11:16] {Threei}  linksys
[11:17] {wishbone} me too
[11:17] {wishbone} r u wireless
[11:17] {_cujo} have to run an errand, c ya ina bit
[11:17] {Threei}  no wish, hardwired
[11:18] {wishbone} ya me too
[11:18] {dino}   vad, we need a few more "experts" saying sell now at -12%, that will get us to bounce. cramer complaining too
[11:18] {Threei}  I guess that's exactly what is going to happen... they all come out of the woods with grim predictions when we drop
[11:19] {Threei}  and babble like champagne when we are up 20%
[11:19] {dino} yes, remember last week dec. and first 3 dats jan. worst is over declared
[11:19] {dino} days
[11:20] {dino} happens every last week of month
[11:20] {nemo} so much for the JPM trigger.  not surprised FAZ turned up
[11:25] {lisa_jay} dltr
[11:26] {gen} hi everybody
[11:27] {Threei}  gen :)
[11:27] {gen} Vad :)
[11:28] {Threei}  RIMM
[11:28] {Threei}  starts looking like break coming
[11:28] {Threei}  if market helps of course
[11:28] {Threei}  closest support is .20
[11:37] {larisa} LLTC watching 22 break, but want market  to  bounce toomarket does not help for  
[11:37] {larisa} wow
[11:37] {larisa} wii try again :)
[11:38] {larisa} LLTC watching 22 break, but want market  to  bounce too
[11:38] {larisa} lol
[11:38] {Threei}  I dunno what the need was... I got it perfectly first time
[11:38] {larisa} ok
[11:39] {larisa} you are too nice to me
[11:39] {Threei}  I may have derived wrong meaning though
[11:39] {Threei}  there was something about steak, right?
[11:39] {lisa_jay} nuan
[11:39] {Threei}  medium raw
[11:40] {larisa} exactly
[11:40] {Threei}  anyone went for RIMM around .30, half out on this spike over .50
[11:42] {nemo} faz is looking like their might be a downleg in the financials coming
[11:42] {i2romantis} medium rare?
[11:43] {i2romantis} and Vad, are you actually planning to get some sun when at Cara's?
[11:43] {i2romantis} seems that you are in almost every session
[11:43] {Threei}  hmm?
[11:48] {Threei}  wow
[11:48] {Threei}  power interruption
[11:48] {KSystems} no wish
[11:48] {Threei}  back now
[11:48] {Threei}  what did I miss?
[11:48] {KSystems} phew
[11:48] {KSystems} welcome back :)
[11:48] {wishbone} KS i can't respond to DCC
[11:49] {nemo} 3 years have passed Rip Vad Winkle
[11:49] {wishbone} KS get this message when trying to type in DCC: /msg: insufficient parameters
[11:50] {KSystems} wish: I sent you one...please try to reply
[11:50] {wishbone} i did this is what happened........top tab reads messages...not specific to nick
[11:52] {KSystems} what version are you using?
[11:52] {wishbone} Dawg did keep on top put an icon on your desktop?
[11:53] {wishbone} ks v6.35
[11:53] {KSystems} and you get that error message when JUST typing text into a private window?
[11:53] {wishbone} yes
[11:54] {Threei}  i2r... I will have a day or two around conference
[11:54] {wishbone} ks this is what i got:
[11:54] {wishbone} [11:49:17] *KSystems* test
[11:54] {wishbone} * /msg: insufficient parameters
[11:54] {wishbone} * Use /msg in this window
[11:54] {wishbone} * /msg: insufficient parameters
[11:55] {KSystems} i have never encountered that ever before
[11:55] {KSystems} is it a clean install? no previous versions?
[11:55] {wishbone} yes
[11:56] {wishbone} when i try to dcc tab on top reads persons nick
[11:56] {KSystems} did you tweak any options or scripts? :)
[11:57] {wishbone} and in text window: Chat with nick, waiting for acknowledgement
[11:57] {KSystems} ahhh
[11:57] {KSystems} that is a native DCC...a real one
[11:57] {KSystems} that wont work
[11:58] {KSystems} when we talk about DCC we usually dont mean the real DCC, sorry for the confusion
[11:58] {KSystems} initiate a "DCC" by double-clicking the nick in the channel's nick list
[11:58] {KSystems} OR by typing /query {nick}
[11:58] {KSystems} do NOT use mIRC's designated DCC feature
[12:08] {fernp} 1,2,3...
[12:09] {Threei} Short Setup: IDCC  .90 breakdown smaller shares
[12:09] {Threei}  stop above 26.10
[12:09] {KSystems} in .88
[12:20] {Threei}  downticking despite market strength... so far so good
[12:22] {Threei}  hit 1:1 for a second... not really enough to cover
[12:22] {Threei}  unless order was in
[12:22] {KSystems} you trying to cover in full?
[12:22] {Threei}  no, want to try and partial
[12:22] {Threei}  it's really weak
[12:22] {KSystems} ok
[12:23] {Threei}  ok, half covered
[12:23] {Threei}  stop to just above b/e
[12:23] {larisa} nice
[12:23] {KSystems} still waiting at .68
[12:24] {Threei}  it hit .67, you haven't got your fill??
[12:24] {KSystems} sent order shortly after
[12:24] {Threei}  oh
[12:24] {Threei}  ok, it's coming
[12:25] {KSystems} oh come on will ya
[12:25] {KSystems} out half .68
06[12:25] * Threei sends message to unknown seller to hurry and hit KS's bid
[12:25] {Threei}  see... nice request works sometimes
[12:25] {Threei}  although I still prfere violence
[12:25] {Threei}  even though Larisa won't approve
[12:25] {nemo} man after my own heart
06[12:26] * Threei hits IDCC over the head with 2x4
[12:27] {Threei}  see??
[12:27] {Threei}  more effective!
[12:27] {nemo} Conan the Destroyer:  "What is good? To crush your enemies.  See them driven before you, and here the lamentation of their women."
[12:27] {Threei}  lol
[12:27] {nemo} The guvernator himself
[12:28] {Threei}  your discretion guys, to try for more or cover
[12:28] {Threei}  hard to tell is it has more in it
[12:28] {Threei}  dive to .50 was quick
[12:30] {Threei}  if holding, probably worth moving stop to above .80
[12:30] {Threei}  to make sure it stays positive trade no mater what
[12:32] {jmb} thanks vad idcc
[12:32] {Threei}  jmb :)
[12:33] {peterg} The historian sez: the Conan quote was originally uttered by our hero, Ghengis Khan
[12:33] {Threei}  let's try again...
06[12:33] * Threei hits IDCC over the head with 2x4 with rusty nails all over
[12:37] {Threei}  oil new day low
[12:38] {Threei}  rememer my "out on a limb" about it going under 30?
[12:38] {nemo} have to be a strong limb?
[12:38] {Threei}  nah, just need good 2x4
[12:38] {nemo} oops!
[12:40] {Threei}  stop can be trailed to .75 IDCC
[12:41] {Threei}  OK... sorry larisa, but I am firmly in violence camp
[12:41] {Threei}  it's just more effective
[12:41] {nemo} Funny, I might be going to Ulan Bator this year.
[12:41] {larisa} one day some stock will hit back
[12:41] {Threei}  kind word and gun - much more effective that just kind word
[12:42] {nemo} To live in peace, prepare for war
[12:42] {Threei}  you have 40 cents on IDCC second portion guys
[12:42] {Threei}  (if my math is correct)
[12:43] {Threei}  if not covering yet, stop to above .60
[12:44] {Threei}  tighter trailing will guarantee profit maximizing and limiting the evaporation
[12:44] {Threei}  notice how it continues downticking even during market bounce
[12:44] {Threei}  this is what moved me to prtialing instead of taking scalp
[12:46] {Threei}  nice offers
[12:47] {Threei}  and larisa... I am not convinced... some will hit back, sure... but the % of those that just don't get it when asked nicely is still higher
[12:48] {larisa} all you need is love
[12:48] {Threei}  and strawberry fields?
[12:48] {larisa} :)
[12:52] {dino}    education stocks moving up
[12:52] {nemo} ooh...didn't see rimm coming
[13:03] {KSystems} IDCC - in .88 - out 1/2 .68 - out rest .62
[13:03] {KSystems} thank you
[13:04] {larisa} good job KS
[13:04] {KSystems} thank you larisa
[13:04] {KSystems} small lot though
[13:04] {larisa} thats ok, day is tough
[13:05] {Threei}  it called for a smaller lot, a bit on a thin side
[13:05] {Threei}  one of those that if went against you, could be devastatingly explosive
[13:07] {larisa} now you tell us :)
[13:07] {dino} gj
[13:07] {Threei}  why, I said smaller shares from the get-go :)
[13:09] {Threei}  (RU) USGS: MAGNITUDE 7.7 EARTHQUAKE HAS STRUCK NEAR RUSSIA'S KURIL ISLANDS
[13:09] {Threei}  - no tsunami warning issued
[13:10] {KSystems} hey guys here is a message from mibbit concerning the disconnect yesterday
[13:10] {KSystems} Sorry for the recent downtime
[13:10] {KSystems} The latest updates to Mibbit, along with the growth, have meant that things are slightly less stable than they should be.
[13:10] {KSystems} There may be a couple more restarts in the next day or 2, to get things running smoothly.
[13:10] {KSystems} Thanks in advance for your patience 
[13:10] {Threei}  oh just install that mirc already and fortget it aall :)
[13:11] {KSystems} yes
[13:16] {Threei}  want AMZN long
[13:16] {Threei}  and struggle with choice
[13:16] {Threei}  between b reak and pullback
[13:17] {Threei}  break of .55 if holding .40
[13:17] {Threei}  not my favorite
[13:17] {Threei}  or pullback into .35 area
[13:17] {Threei}  with stop under .25
[13:17] {KSystems} break it is, then
[13:17] {KSystems} in .57
[13:20] {Threei}  wow PALM
[13:23] {Threei}  come on market, time to bounce and break
[13:24] {Threei}  bounce is good... now break
[13:25] {Threei}  US) CALIFORNIA GOV SCHWARZENEGGER: REITERATES CALIFORNIA FACES INSOLVENCY WITHIN WEEKS, IS IN "STATE OF EMERGENCY" - STATE OF STATE ADDRESS
[13:25] {Threei}  - California has been incapacitated by budget crisis, calls on lawmakers to work the problem out together.
[13:25] {Threei}  wow... what obedience by market
[13:26] {Threei}  unfortunalely not for long, lol
06[13:29] * Threei kicks AMZN in the rear with heavy duty army boots
[13:29] {Threei}  1:1
[13:29] {peterg} connect mirc via eu.undernet.org (6667) is this correct?
[13:30] {peterg} of course cnctn rejctd
[13:30] {Threei}  eu.undernet.org??
[13:30] {Threei}  no
[13:30] {KSystems} nope peterg
[13:30] {KSystems} must be irc.jastech.de (6667)
[13:30] {Threei}  out AMZN .93
[13:30] {peterg} so why mirc no take jastech
[13:30] {KSystems} type /server irc.jastech.de
[13:30] {peterg} i have inserted it 50 times
[13:30] {peterg} no joy
[13:31] {_cujo} great call Vad
[13:31] {Threei}  yeah, I have my moments
[13:31] {Threei}  lol
[13:31] {Threei}  out yet ks?
[13:31] {_cujo} ;)  hopefully more moments to come
[13:31] {KSystems} nope
[13:31] {KSystems} half still in
[13:31] {Threei}  50 cents from your entry
[13:31] {jmb} thanks vad
[13:31] {Threei}  welcome :)
[13:32] {larisa} LLTC nice on 22 break
[13:33] {larisa} I took it on pullback to .80 though and sold at 22 :)
[13:33] {larisa} lol
[13:33] {Threei}  it spiked into 22 sharply larisa
[13:33] {Threei}  can't blame you
[13:33] {larisa} right
[13:33] {Threei}  maybe I'd partyial aggressive position into that,
[13:34] {Threei}  but no way I'd take that break
[13:34] {KSystems} AMZN - in .57 - out 1/2 .76 - out rest .10
[13:34] {KSystems} thank you vad
[13:34] {Threei}  beautiful trade ks
[13:34] {Threei}  welcome
[13:34] {KSystems} beautiful call 3i
[13:34] {KSystems} :)
[13:34] {Threei}  with these two, IDCC and AMZN, we sem to finally break this pattern of dull days with thousand of papercuts
[13:35] {KSystems} I begin to discover the delights of manual stops and exits instead of automatic ones
[13:35] {Threei}  haha
[13:35] {i2romantis} green is such a beautiful colour!
[13:36] {Threei}  not that it was a long standing pattern,
[13:36] {Threei}  started just this monday
[13:36] {Threei}  but annoying nonetheless
[13:37] {Threei}  watching how little DRYS did on this market move, I have to conclude that our momo mover is probably done for now
[13:37] {Threei}  gotta look for another
[13:37] {Threei}  they all work for a while, then become boring
[13:38] {Threei}  used to be UAUA
[13:38] {peterg} How exit and remove nick from mibbit list?
[13:38] {KSystems} peterg have you closed the mibbit window?
[13:38] {Threei}  now it can't wealk 5 steps without crotches
[13:38] {peterg} did but was stopped
[13:38] {peterg} nick in use
[13:38] {peterg} just close window?
[13:39] {KSystems} yep
[13:39] {peterg} k
[13:41] {KSystems} Peter :)
[13:41] {KSystems} congrats
[13:42] {Peterg} jss h krst!
[13:42] {Peterg} is this it?
[13:42] {KSystems} yeah
[13:42] {Peterg} No memory & funny type
[13:43] {Peterg} well that was a four hours (i exaggerate slightly) well spent
[13:43] {Peterg} would some one else talk so I believe I have arrived?
[13:43] {KSystems} what was the error?
[13:43] {Threei}  lol peter
[13:43] {Peterg} I think I never got jastech selected as server
[13:43] {Threei}  congratulations
[13:44] {Threei}  didn't ckicl Add as last step probaly?
[13:44] {Peterg} not sure dont care
[13:44] {Peterg} lets party
[13:44] {Peterg} can I change the font?
[13:44] {Threei}  break out the vodka
[13:44] {Threei}  yes... right click on button #discussions
[13:44] {Threei}  Font
[13:45] {Threei}  nice market rally
[13:45] {Threei}  there was more to be had, aside of AMZN... RIMM, DRYS etc
[13:46] {Threei}  but you'll understand my hesitation to overpush it after three lackluster days
[13:46] {Peterg} Also thanks to gentleman fernp, for assistance in wilderness
[13:46] {Threei}  thank you all guys for help
[13:46] {Threei}  KS, geo, jmb, fernp
[13:46] {Peterg} you tood vad 
[13:46] {Peterg} too
[13:46] {Threei}  group hug
[13:47] {Threei}  love is in the air
[13:47] {Peterg} way to go
[13:47] {Threei}  strawberry fields forever
[13:47] {Threei}  especially considering fire-dousing mode we found ourselves with old server crash
[13:48] {lisa_jay} CPKI
[13:48] {Threei}  great job with mutual support
[13:48] {Threei}  FED'S LOCKHART: REITERATES MARKETS AND ECONOMY MAY STABILIZE IN 2H09
[13:48] {Threei}  see, Lockhart is happy too
[13:49] {Threei}  Lockhart's plot... for Bolshevok revolution history buffs...
[13:49] {Threei}  ) HAMAS REPORTEDLY WOULD AGREE TO A ONE-YEAR CEASE FIRE THAT INCLUDES OPEN ALL GAZA CROSSINGS
[13:49] {Threei}  - no comments from Israel yet on possible cease fire agreement
[13:49] {Threei}  even in that corner of the world there is some silver lining
[13:50] {Threei}  one party pooper:
[13:50] {Threei}  FED BOARD NOMINEE TARULLO: DEFLATION IS A BIGGER THREAT THAN INFLATION AT THIS TIME
[13:50] {Threei}  - commenting at his confirmation hearing today; Tarullo is slated to replace Kroszner on the Fed board
[13:52] {Threei}  NQ went green briefly
[13:52] {Peterg} two things: first name now capitalized
[13:52] {Peterg} how shrink margin on left of outer box
[13:53] {dino} pcln rocking
[13:54] {dino} mcd green
[13:54] {Threei}  pullback is coming but we are probably not done yet
[13:55] {Threei}  DRYS is worth consideration near 14
[13:55] {Threei}  APOL
[13:55] {Threei}  HEARING MORGAN STANLEY MAKING POSITVE COMMENTS ON EDUCATION STOCKS (TIMING UNCERTAIN)
[13:55] {Threei}  - Note cites details on funding for student loans in draft stimulus bill.
[13:55] {Peterg} no timestamp for remarks on mirc?
[13:56] {Threei}  right click on the same button
[13:56] {Threei}  Timestamps in menu
[13:56] {KSystems} dawg
[13:56] {KSystems} any luck yet?
[13:57] {Peterg} got it
[13:58] {Threei}  SQNM
[13:58] {Threei}  scary one
[13:59] {Threei}  25 break
[13:59] {Threei}  smallish shares, really dangerous
[13:59] {_cujo} where stop on that one if breaks 25?
[14:00] {Threei}  low of the pullback before break
[14:00] {Threei}  so far .80
[14:00] {Peterg} old mirc would dominate; new one disappears beneath laser; keystroke sensitivity issue any ideas?
[14:00] {Threei}  right click on blue bar on top of mirc
[14:00] {Threei}  check the line On Top
[14:01] {Peterg} tks
06[14:01] * KSystems proposes vad to create a mirc knowledge base
[14:02] {Threei}  probably some customization tips
[14:02] {Threei}  on the most FAQs
[14:03] {KSystems} yep
[14:07] {KSystems} in sqnm
[14:07] {Threei}  DRYS, I take my words back
[14:07] {Threei}  you are still capable one
[14:07] {KSystems} stop still .80 or .90 vad?
[14:08] {Threei}  .80
[14:08] {Threei}  market pulls back...
[14:08] {Threei}  I'd like to see more enrthusiasm on this kind of break
[14:08] {Threei}  really huge offer got taken
[14:09] {Threei}  no go
[14:09] {KSystems} stopped
[14:09] {Threei}  most likely just a shake
[14:09] {Threei}  but risk is too high
[14:12] {Peterg} awfully fat Left Hand margin; how shrink ?
[14:12] {Peterg} does anyone have a small mirc box?
[14:13] {Peterg} hah
[14:14] {wishbone} peter
[14:14] {Peterg} yah wish
[14:14] {wishbone} right click top blue bar
[14:15] {Peterg} k
[14:15] {wishbone} select view and uncheck treebar
[14:15] {dptl} or use compact mode
[14:15] {wishbone} no not compact mode
[14:17] {Peterg} treebar? Only got move size minimize maximize
[14:17] {dptl} why not
[14:17] {Threei}  peter, menu - view
[14:17] {wishbone} sorry dp thought that was peterg
[14:18] {Peterg} im getting it thanks to all. Further group hugs soon
[14:19] {dptl} that compact mode will save some space...nice feature,didn't have it in ald version
[14:19] {dptl} old
[14:22] {Peterg} The long night is finally ending; I have mirc, small, adhesive and timed.
[14:22] {Peterg} and vad......
[14:22] {Peterg} if you ever put me through this again..........
[14:22] {Threei}  lol
[14:23] {Threei}  how is it my fault... :)
[14:23] {Peterg} you da owner; everything is your fault
[14:23] {Peterg} My son knows whenever anyhthing goes wrong its his fault
[14:23] {Peterg} You will learn in time
[14:24] {Peterg} Goind for a celebratory chocolate bar & diet coke BRB
[14:29] {Threei}  C
[14:29] {Threei}  COMPANY OFFICIALS DENY ANY TALKS REGARDING NATIONALIZATION - CNBC'S GASPARINO
[14:31] {dino} sounds familiar....denied no funds needed, etc
[14:31] {Threei}  very
[14:35] {Peterg} OK; Hershey's SKOR chocolate with crisp butter toffee;
[14:35] {Peterg} Diet Coke with Lime
[14:35] {dino} good bye common stock
[14:35] {Peterg} taste extravaganza
[14:35] {Peterg} Now taking recommendations for best font contest
[14:36] {KSystems} wingdings
[14:36] {KSystems} size 172
[14:36] {KSystems} bold
[14:36] {dino} mmmmmmm
[14:36] {KSystems} green on yellow, please
[14:37] {Peterg} wingdings wow!
[14:38] {nemo} yodels
[14:39] {hawkfan4} 1/2 out SQNM +1.15
[14:39] {lisa_jay} wow
[14:39] {Threei}  that's indecent
06[14:39] * Threei slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large roll of cash
[14:39] {i2romantis} what a nice green day!
[14:39] {hawkfan4} :) 
[14:40] {dino} gj hawk
[14:40] {Peterg} wtg
[14:41] {hawkfan4} thanks
[14:42] {hawkfan4} keeping it tight on the rest, don't know if it can break the 25 strike this week
[14:42] {nemo} Yeah, see how Chavez is brownnosing the Oil companies again
[14:47] {dino} c'mon another 100 pts
[14:48] {dino} need 400 range
[14:48] {Threei}  and magoo misses this day
[14:48] {KSystems} dino: you dont trade below?
[14:48] {Threei}  this is his kind of range
[14:49] {dino} ks?
[14:49] {KSystems} j/k "[20:47] {dino} need 400 range", and you didnt post a trade today i think ;)
[14:49] {Threei}  ok... really time for pullback
[14:49] {patience} i miss magoosky dino, send him in tomorrow
[14:50] {patience} out slw (cdn) +.65   nice slow, steady ride up
[14:50] {dino} traded, but no posts, my entries have been off, working ot out
[14:50] {KSystems} oh i see
[14:50] {dino} got caught by the 8100 break
[14:51] {dino} magoo is showing a house he has for sale
[14:51] {patience} that's important...but he must be missing us terribly
[14:52] {Peterg} dawg, you m ade it onboard?
[14:52] {hawkfan4} out the rest +1.32
[14:52] {dino} yeah, he's complaining. he had to snow plow this morning, stopped in for lunch and split to house
[14:52] {dino} nice hawk
[14:52] {hawkfan4} thanks, getting back into the swing of things
[15:05] {i2romantis} wow halk, very well done!
[15:05] {i2romantis} hawk*
[15:05] {hawkfan4} thx I2
[15:06] {_cujo} test
[15:06] {_cujo} just got disconnected. 
[15:11] {dawg} no peter thought i would work on it after close
[15:11] {dawg} KS has been helping also 
[15:13] {Peterg} good luck
[15:14] {dawg} what a nightmare!
[15:14] {dawg} it is more frustrating then trading
[15:14] {Threei}  jeez
[15:15] {dawg} will not quite that bad Vad but not going to give up KS  has new video coming out
[15:16] {Peterg} what makes it worse is knowing everybody is together having fun making money and you are in prison in the doghouse in hell in purgatory no sound no voice no music money or joy
[15:17] {dawg} you got it in particular these last few days
[15:17] {Peterg} it quickly becomes personal, even though you know you are being paranoid
[15:19] {dawg} Yes so true
[15:19] {Threei}  why paranpid... it is personal
[15:19] {Threei}  we made a point not to make it easy for you two
[15:19] {Threei}  market spike
[15:19] {Threei}  in DRYS
[15:19] {Threei}  stop under .50
[15:22] {Threei}  come on, one more leg for rally
[15:23] {dptl} gn all
[15:23] {Threei}  take care dp
[15:24] {Threei}  nah... tired
[15:24] {Threei}  unless bounces from here, done
[15:28] {Peterg} ks, did you tell someone how to skip departure notes being printed on mirc? 
[15:29] {Peterg} remember how elegant and simple old mirc was?
[15:29] {Peterg} except for occ. dump problems.
[15:29] {Peterg} so we are here for.....stability?
[15:31] {dptl} right klick on channel----events,Peter
[15:32] {Peterg} channels list?
[15:32] {dptl} no,floor or discission 
[15:33] {dptl} r cklick on top of discission window
[15:34] {dptl} and then select events
[15:34] {Peterg} k
[15:35] {Peterg} and hide them
[15:35] {Peterg} ?
[15:35] {lisa_jay} Is monday a holiday for markets?  Thanks.
[15:35] {dptl} hide whatever you don; want to see
[15:35] {Peterg} got it thanks
[15:36] {dino} yes dp
[15:36] {dptl} ?
[15:37] {dino} opps lisa, yes holiday
[15:38] {lisa_jay} thanks Dino.
[15:38] {dino} c'mon 3:40 
[15:42] {Peterg} hey dawg, just wrote you
[15:43] {dino} amed
[15:43] {Peterg} gotta get that first server choice right
[15:43] {nemo} armchair quarterbacking, but people booking profits after such a swing makes sense
[15:43] {Peterg} also I think choice seven is incorrectly written; I think you choose options from beneath connect/servers, not through tools
[15:44] {Peterg} fire alalrm just went off in building.
[15:44] {Peterg} I think i'll stay put
[15:44] {Peterg} bet its false
[15:44] {Threei}  it's the same spot peter... just twoways to arrive there
[15:45] {Peterg} i had trouble with it it pulled up a previously selected screen
[15:45] {Peterg} the #6 screen
[15:48] {Threei}  PALM is pretty unbelieavble
[15:48] {Threei}  I was sure it was so done, you could put a fork in it
[15:49] {Peterg} What is the line between 1445 and 1448?
[15:49] {_cujo} repeating you wow about palm...
[15:50] {Peterg} pagination?
[15:53] {Threei}  quite amazing day
[15:53] {Threei}  good to see market regained stamina
[15:53] {patience} was very nice in the afternoon
[15:54] {Threei}  even if we are to see more of downside, the ability to stage such comebacks tells volumes about underlying impatience of the sideline money to jump into action
[15:55] {dino} 3i, forever the optimist
[15:55] {larisa} 7 down days.. i say they are too patient :)
[15:55] {Threei}  they waited for dino's support level
[15:55] {patience} i think it is jack be nimble, jack be quick trading types...not here to build up a big rally
[15:55] {Threei}  not yet
[15:56] {nemo} I'll let you know the next time I have to lie down to get the rally started
[15:56] {Threei}  but this is different from time when we saw weeks of this relentless selling
[15:56] {dino} they blew through it on dji, i must start using s&p more. it is much more supoortive. dji going by wayside, imo, getting sort if irrelevent
[15:56] {Threei}  cycles shorten
[15:56] {Peterg} stock transfer tax talked up in NYT
[15:57] {nemo} dji is weighted towards larger stocks.  Kinda' useless
[15:57] {Peterg} yesterday
[15:57] {Peterg} make the speculators pay
[15:57] {dino} agree w/you nemo
[15:57] {dino} speculators are not the problem. the boards and ceo's are the problem
[15:58] {nemo} and the market structure
[15:58] {dino} without speculation, there are no markets
[15:58] {Peterg} Sadam used to say, if there is a person, there is a problem
[15:59] {Threei}  guess who he took the words from
[15:59] {Peterg} ?
[15:59] {nemo} stalin
[15:59] {Threei}  yup
[15:59] {Peterg} birds of a feather
[15:59] {nemo} Georgy was his hero. Had a room dedicated to him.
[16:00] {Peterg} right, now that you mention
[16:00] {Threei}  Joseph you mean
[16:00] {Peterg} Palm ends up at .14
[16:00] {Threei}  amazing strength
[16:00] {nemo} I think it was a nickname because he was Georgian
[16:00] {Peterg} thnks all group hug day job calls cu tmo
[16:00] {Threei}  nickname was Koba
[16:01] {wishbone} good nite all
[16:01] {Threei}  ok guys, thank you all
[16:01] {Threei}  have a good nigh, see you tomorrow
[16:01] {larisa} see you :)
[16:01] {hawkfan4} thx vad, all
[16:01] {KSystems} bye everybody
[16:01] {nemo} take care
[16:03] {dawg} Peter is this a good time to email you?
[16:07] {dino} thx all
[16:14] {dino} test
[16:14] {dino} am i in?
[16:14] {_cujo} you are in
[16:14] {dino} so i finally got it right



Wednesday, January 14, 2009

Jan 14 2009

Not being a stellar day, it nonetheless was much better. A few tight stops, and three sizeable wins, two on RIMM and one on ACOR. Still a lot of fear in the market though, so our commitment stays fleeting.


Session Time: Wed Jan 14 00:00:00 2009

[07:00] {nemo} Hah! woke up at 3:30 this morning.
[08:01] {Threei}  Good morning
[08:03] {magoo} morning
[08:03] {Threei}  magoo :)
[08:03] {Threei}  any luck with mirc?
[08:03] {magoo} anyone up to walking me thru this mIRC again {sigh}
[08:04] {magoo} rady to try again
[08:04] {magoo} gotta be something little..i am close
[08:04] {Onix} Good morning all
[08:04] {Threei}  do you know where your mirc folder is?
[08:04] {Threei}  onix :)
[08:04] {magoo} i deleted it
[08:05] {Threei}  should be C/Program files/mirc
[08:10] {Threei}  nemo :)
[08:11] {Onix} hi nemo
[08:11] {nemo} onix :)
[08:12] {Threei}  PREVIEW: DEC ADVANCE RETAIL SALES AND RETAIL SALES LESS AUTOS DUE AT 8:30 ET
[08:12] {Threei}  - Advance retail sales: consensus expectations are -1.2%e; The prior number was -1.8% (analyst range of estimates from -0.3% to -3.5%)
[08:12] {Threei}  - Retail sales less autos: Consensus expectations are -1.4%e; The prior reading was -1.6% (analyst range from -0.4% to -2.6%)
[08:13] {Threei}  mags?
[08:14] {nemo} maybe you shoulda' taken mags belt and shoelaces away?
[08:14] {Threei}  it would be a good idea but I am careful with guys who carry hunting rifle with them at all times
[08:15] {nemo} must be a helluva' holster..
[08:15] {Threei}  his car is his hlster...
[08:15] {magoo} sorry phone call
[08:15] {nemo} mags is my kinda' guy
[08:17] {Threei}  BALTIC DRY BULK INDEX +1.0%
[08:17] {Threei}  (SEVENTH CONSECUTIVE GAIN)
[08:21] {Threei}  that batlic index is good in a sense that DRYS has no its own bad news... need market help to go, or at least stable market
[08:21] {_cujo} Good monring all. 
[08:21] {Threei}  cujo :)
[08:22] {_cujo} morning
[08:25] {Onix} hi cujo :)
[08:26] {larisa} good morning :)
[08:26] {Threei}  larisa :)
[08:28] {ese} goooooood morning......
[08:28] {Threei}  ese :)
[08:28] {Threei}  see what DRYS does?
[08:28] {Threei}  follows market almost precisely
[08:28] {ese} really enjoyed watching your scalping video course vad.....
[08:28] {KSystems} nemo :) alles klar und selbst?
[08:29] {Threei}  good to hear ese :)
[08:29] {Threei}  you are done with it in full already??
[08:29] {ese} have gone through it twice
[08:30] {Threei}  DEC IMPORT PRICE INDEX M/M: -4.2% V -5.3%E; Y/Y
[08:30] {Threei}  DEC ADVANCE RETAIL SALES: -2.7% V -1.2%E; LESS AUTOS: -3.1% V -1.4%E
[08:30] {Threei}  - Prior Advance Retail Sales revised from -1.8% to -2.1%
[08:30] {Threei}  - Prior Less Autos revised from -1.6% to -2.5%
[08:36] {ese} one of the things I really enjoyed vad was listening to your commentary on the trades and in particular.....your analysis of level 2 and how you used it to analyize risk in terms of how many shares you bought.....
[08:38] {ese} definately.....I intend to go over and over and over it again........to catch full meaning of everything
[08:39] {Threei}  we have also oil inventories today at 10:35
[08:40] {Threei}  I don't expect it to be a market mover
[08:40] {Threei}  maybe short-lived initial knee-jerk reaction
[08:40] {i2romantis} can't believe Nortel's song is sung
[08:41] {ese} what do you mean romantis
[08:41] {Threei}  08:24am
[08:41] {Threei}  [NT] Nortel Networks Corp Officially files for Chapter 11 in U.S. as speculated
[08:41] {Threei}  - States company has more than $1B worth of both assets and liabilities.
[08:41] {Threei}  - Note on 12/09 WSJ reported company had hired advisers to explore a potential bankruptcy if its plan to restructure is not effective, and last night that a bankruptcy filing was likely
[08:41] {i2romantis} bancruptcy
[08:42] {ese} wow
[08:42] {i2romantis} i kind of thought it would turn around
[08:42] {i2romantis} but down to .08 in premarket
[08:42] {i2romantis} from .31
[08:42] {ese} whats the symbol
[08:42] {i2romantis} nt
[08:43] {ese} tks
[08:43] {_jamie} Well there he is
[08:45] {ese} hows nortel doing on the canadian exchange.......
[08:45] {Threei}  I don't suppose it's making new all-time highs ese... :)
[08:48] {ese} at .08 per shs.....heck ........i noticed somebody bout 27 mil of it
[08:48] {magoo} nope
[08:48] {ese} bought
[08:48] {cosmo} # Ericsson first to implement mobile broadband into cable-TV networkMarketwire(Wed 8:05am)
[08:48] {cosmo} eric
[08:52] {gen} gm all
[08:53] {gen} Vad :)
[08:59] {_jamie} I am wondering if this will be a 1 Vicodin or a 2 Vocodin morning....
[08:59] {ese} Ok question for the whole room.........can anyone tell me if airline traffic is going to be up or down this summer (august) in particular and whether or not they think that fares will be discounted?
[08:59] {KSystems} brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[08:59] {cosmo} good luck mags
[09:00] {ese} am taking my high school rhythm and blues band to copenhagen in august for a festival;
[09:00] {_jamie} cool
[09:00] {_stoplight} first half of the year is steeply on sale in comparison to last year
06[09:00] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large RTC icon
[09:01] {wishbone} good morning
[09:01] {_jamie} what's your instrument ese?
[09:01] {Threei}  wish :)
[09:01] {ese} wish
[09:01] {dptl} gm all
[09:01] {Threei}  dp :)
[09:01] {wishbone} hi ese
[09:01] {_stoplight} would imagine the second half of the year airline prices will continue to slip
[09:01] {ese} I play drums myself...I have a degree in percussion performance with a history/mathematics minor
[09:02] {Threei}  REPORTEDLY, CHRYSLER HAS ANNOUNCED IT WILL NOT SELL JEEP UNIT; DENIES PRESS REPORT ABOUT NISSAN-RENAULT TALKS
[09:02] {Threei}  - Says is in discussions with partners regarding non-earning assets
[09:02] {Threei}  - Looking to sell tooling and liscnenses for discontinued models
[09:02] {Threei}  - Denies talks with Magna along with Renault-Nissan
[09:02] {Threei}  - Reminder: On 01/13, it was reported that Chrysler is in talks with Renault-Nissan regarding an asset sale - CNBC
[09:03] {ese} here is my professional band website jamie  www.themidnights.com
[09:03] {_jamie} so you actually know how to play...I grew up playing with a drummer who wished he had been Neil Peart...and who played like Ringo I will check your site out...
[09:03] {_jamie} I really like Keith Moon these days
[09:04] {ese} yes indeed 22 years of playing symphony here in canada 
[09:04] {_jamie} wow
[09:04] {magoo} ok..no work..but lets stop so u can do your morn prep to make otheres money today...lets try again tomorrow or tonite
[09:04] {nemo} Funny, I was standing in a "Head Shop" when I heard about Keith Moon's death.
[09:04] {_jamie} What did they sell Nemo?  Hats?
[09:04] {Threei}  dcc KS, set a time, he will walk you through this over the phone
[09:04] {ese} head shop?
[09:05] {magoo} how do i make this window stay on top when i click another window for now..thats easy i think
[09:05] {_jamie} Vad is today the day we're gonna make history?
[09:05] {Threei}  hmm?
[09:05] {_jamie} as in earn profits
[09:06] {cosmo} head shops are where they remachine engine parts.... 
[09:06] {Threei}  pressure pressure
[09:06] {_jamie} not become historic...not make historic lossess...
[09:06] {elepet} I am about to give up on the whole thing. When I use this one, my brokerage window isreplaced. So I paid my $20 to sign up with mirc, and I can't get past "choose a channel name for favorite. I want none of the above. I guess others are having problems but i haven't folloed the explanations. so for now i have to use 2 computers. Aagh.
[09:06] {magoo} thanx for your time vad..really apoligize for my computer illiteracy here
[09:06] {lisa_jay} Good morning RealityTraders
[09:06] {_jamie} Lisa_Jay!
[09:06] {Threei}  lisa :)
[09:06] {_cujo} morning Lisa
[09:07] {ese} liiiiiissssssaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
[09:07] {Threei}  elepet... there are a lot of people connected through mirc
[09:07] {elepet} Good morning
[09:07] {cosmo} i miss mirc...
[09:07] {ese} ele  .......
[09:07] {magoo} el..thats where i get stuck too
[09:08] {elepet} so what is the matter with me? why can't i make mirc work?
[09:08] {lisa_jay} Hi guys.
[09:08] {elepet} maybe it's a california thing.
[09:08] {magoo} ES..im using 2 computers now also
[09:08] {fernp} hello everybody
[09:08] {magoo} used to use one 
[09:08] {Threei}  fern :)
[09:08] {magoo} stuck same place
[09:09] {ese} fern
[09:09] {elepet} but i leave for Mexico next week and hate to bring 2 computers
[09:09] {Threei}  ele... talk to KS, set time so he walks you through thuis
[09:10] {magoo} i have yet to get it to work..COS, u cant either
[09:10] {ese} Mehhh heeee cohhh
[09:10] {magoo} btw vad, i cant dcc here to get KS 
[09:10] {ese} nice holiday?
[09:10] {Threei}  ??
[09:10] {elepet} thanks. after market close would be better. how do i find KS?
[09:10] {nemo} mags: email me at mark (at) tao dot org maybe I can help
[09:10] {Threei}  ksystems... jst dcc him
[09:11] {dino} .
[09:11] {KSystems} magoo you can
[09:11] {KSystems} on the left side is the nick list
[09:11] {KSystems} right-click my name, select "PM"
[09:11] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:11] {KSystems} may be right side
[09:11] {KSystems} and good morning everyone :)
[09:12] {elepet} thanks. i'll try after market closes. to much for now.
[09:12] {ese} Ksys......good morning to you
[09:12] {fernp} you need mirc 6.1.6 or higher to work with the new server
[09:13] {magoo} KS, on left.i do not have pm choice in pop upUG
[09:13] {fernp} and some routers are not compatible with current version
[09:13] {KSystems} fernp thats not right I'm afraid
[09:13] {KSystems} you can connect with older
[09:13] {dino} gm all
[09:13] {KSystems} just have to configure
[09:13] {ese} dino.....
[09:13] {fernp} I tried with old and can't connect
[09:14] {fernp} and with 6.1.6 I can do it
[09:14] {KSystems} then its some router issue as well
[09:14] {fernp} now I am using 6.3.5 and can connect
[09:14] {Threei}  updating mirc is a good idea anyway, old one is not very safe these days
[09:16] {Threei}  be back in 5
[09:16] {_jamie} Hey Nemo.....Been to the head and Foot shop?
[09:17] {nemo} They closed those long ago in Massachusetts
[09:17] {_jamie} swear to God...they sell sneakers and pot pipes...yeah they're closed now too bad.
[09:17] {geo} gm fellow speculators
[09:17] {_jamie} my dad used to go there for....close out sneakers
[09:17] {_jamie} Geo
[09:18] {_cujo} morning Geo
[09:18] {_jamie} this market looks el-stinkaroo today...not to judge.
[09:18] {_cujo} yeah agreed...
[09:19] {cosmo} you'll need a good pair of sneakers too...
[09:20] {dino} ua blood
[09:20] {KSystems} hey geo
[09:20] {KSystems} did they halt NT?
[09:20] {KSystems} got funny quotes here
[09:21] {Threei}  geo :)
[09:21] {peterg} mirc new install no worky
[09:21] {Threei}  DRYS has this habit of insane jimps after open
[09:22] {peterg} instructions need to cover the final movement of each  step; OK, or ADD or whatever.
[09:22] {Threei}  risky one
[09:22] {magoo} ROFLOL peterg..join my nitemare
[09:22] {magoo} 2 mornings in a row wasted now from 8 a.m till 9 a.m
[09:22] {peterg} I am sure it is grustrating frustating for the vadster, but hey its hi8s job to make this possible sorry
[09:22] {elepet} and mine.
[09:22] {magoo} done for now..need to mkt prp
[09:23] {peterg} ill take some prp
[09:23] {peterg} does it taste good
[09:23] {dino} when magoo figures it out, i will switch
[09:24] {peterg} ditto
[09:24] {Threei}  guys... please dcc KS to set time for him to walk you through this
[09:24] {KSystems} magoo we can do it on market close or when it gets a little calmer
[09:24] {KSystems} yeah
[09:24] {magoo} see dino personality is he doesn't care..hell wait...he only asked me how to slap last week after 2 yrs he he
[09:24] {magoo} me..its driving me nuts..enough said
[09:25] {_jamie} mordeduras de este mercado
[09:25] {peterg} technological solutions always more complicated which is good for redundancy and safety but hell to get working
[09:25] {peterg} H guyford Stever told me that
[09:25] {dino} hmmmmmmmm, not sure what to say to that, but oh well
[09:25] {peterg} me either, just quote
[09:26] {dino} be calm at open guys/gals, remember your edge, don't force things
[09:26] {Threei}  .30 big offer on DRYS if taken, is your indication for a possible jump - risky trade
[09:27] {elepet} anyone been watching exm?
[09:27] {_jamie} "Don't force things" is great advice for us...now tell my car payment and landlord not to force things:) 
[09:32] {peterg} Nice! Keystroke causes Mibbit screen to vanish when not on Mibbit screen.
[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  PLD  .65 if stays above .45
[09:32] {peterg} I not frustrated
[09:33] {KSystems} in pld
[09:33] {magoo} in
[09:34] {magoo} long Q here
[09:34] {magoo} stop .97
[09:35] {Threei}  PLD 1:1, half out
[09:35] {magoo} Q beauty entry .13
[09:36] {peterg} out for .07 tks
[09:36] {nemo} mags: send me an email.  I have to leave this afternoon, but I'll help when I get back tonight or tomorrow morning
[09:36] {magoo} ok..later TY
[09:36] {Threei}  stop to .55 for PLD balance
[09:37] {dptl} it hit 1:1?
[09:37] {geo} no
[09:37] {Threei}  ?
[09:37] {Threei}  it hit .78
[09:37] {dino} 8118 dji dec lows
[09:37] {geo} .85 1:1 no?
[09:38] {KSystems} PLD - in .67 - out 1/2 .74 - out rest .53
[09:38] {dptl} 1: is .85 no?
[09:38] {Threei}  .60 + .15 = .75
[09:38] {Threei}  no?
[09:39] {dino} 818 S&P, 1096 NDX
[09:39] {KSystems} [15:32] {&Threei} Long Setup:  PLD  .65 if stays above .45
[09:39] {dptl} 65 if stays above 45
[09:39] {geo} .20 stop
[09:39] {Threei}  what the... I thought I tyoed .60 break
[09:39] {Threei}  sorry guys
[09:39] {lisa_jay} sqnm
[09:40] {dptl} stopped pld
[09:41] {KSystems} one of the rare occasions when mistake pays out...
[09:41] {Threei} Long Setup:  DRYS  .50 break
[09:41] {magoo} in drys .45
[09:41] {KSystems} in drys
[09:42] {KSystems} stop?
[09:42] {Threei}  stop under .35 for hardcore scalpers
[09:42] {Threei}  I'd prefer a bit wider one on this but gotta decrease size then
[09:42] {Threei}  with market help it's capable of more than scalp
[09:43] {Threei}  market help is questionable thing though
[09:43] {Threei}  makin higher lows so far
[09:44] {dino} WHOOSH COMING
[09:44] {Threei}  yeah
[09:44] {Threei}  grrr
[09:44] {KSystems} stopped drys
[09:44] {dptl} stopped
[09:45] {Onix} stopped drys
[09:45] {_jamie} the market's crashing
[09:46] {geo} patience here?
[09:46] {geo} no
[09:46] {_jamie} Nemo get me my life preserver
[09:47] {_jamie} Unfortunately Mibbit doesn't support that yet.
[09:47] {_jamie} Mibbit the strange rabbitt
[09:47] {dino} it's a frog
[09:48] {nemo} frabbit? rabbog?
[09:49] {nemo} sqnm double bottom?
[09:49] {Threei}  too far from bottom for entry here
[09:49] {nemo} ty va
[09:49] {nemo} "d"
[09:50] {Threei}  has potential for 24.50 or so, just too hgh risk
[09:50] {_jamie} SQNM is an FDA play
[09:50] {nemo} bounced on acquisition announcement yesterday and will bounce on trials at eom
[09:51] {Threei} Short Setup: ADBE  .50 break if stays under .60
[09:51] {KSystems} in
[09:52] {nemo} stop on adbe?
[09:52] {Threei}  if stays under .60 - meaning both, condition for entry and for stop placement
[09:53] {nemo} ty
[09:57] {dino} eqix sm l .98, risky wide stops today
[09:57] {dino} mcd sm l .85 same deal
[09:59] {dino} rate afam algt rimm all pos.
[09:59] {dino} itri
[10:00] {Threei}  NOV BUSINESS INVENTORIES: -0.7% V-0.5%E
[10:02] {Threei}  market doesn't look like it wants down anymore
[10:02] {_jamie} adbe don't seem to have any "down" in it
[10:02] {Threei}  no
[10:02] {Threei}  covered
[10:02] {KSystems} adbe stopped
[10:02] {dptl} stopped adbe
[10:02] {_jamie} momofuko!
[10:02] {_jamie} hehehehe
[10:02] {_jamie} i HATRE that
[10:03] {_jamie} stopout!
[10:03] {Threei}  who doesn't
[10:03] {_jamie} caramba
[10:03] {dino} apol
[10:03] {_jamie} mama mina!
[10:03] {Onix} stopped ADBE
[10:03] {dino} battleground
[10:04] {fernp} EXPE holding well on highs
[10:04] {Threei}  RIMM
[10:05] {Threei}  pullback long around .80
[10:05] {magoo} cramer mentioned it pos
[10:05] {_jamie} RIMM looks potentially very interesting
[10:06] {dino} isrg 52 week low
[10:08] {ese} bstop ZGEN .30
[10:08] {KSystems} didnt get rimm vad, still valid?
[10:09] {Threei}  yes, with stop under .60, but use market strength for entry
[10:09] {Threei}  not on price alone
[10:09] {KSystems} ok
[10:10] {ese} 1/2 L zgen filled .28 cool
[10:10] {Threei}  good pullback
[10:10] {ese} stop .18 
[10:11] {fernp} breakout NVDA Vad?
[10:11] {lisa_jay} APOL
[10:11] {Threei}  as much as breakouts can be trusted today...
[10:12] {cosmo} ERIC hod = 7.02   ...so far
[10:12] {Threei}  market just can't make up its mind
[10:13] {dino} going to find out here
[10:14] {cosmo} looks mindless to me...
[10:14] {_jamie} vad, market is belching again...market ate chili last night
[10:15] {Threei}  I don't know how much of it it must have eaten to act like this
[10:15] {_jamie} there is a ferocity to the selloffs lately 
[10:16] {fernp} Thanks Vad. NVDA was a trap
[10:16] {Threei}  yeah, market saw to it'
[10:16] {nemo} with the ass whippin' over the last few months, nobody is taking chances
[10:17] {cosmo} give it a week more ...
[10:17] {nemo} adbe setting up again?
[10:17] {Threei}  it's this period of political posturing nemo
[10:17] {Threei}  same as with original TARP
[10:18] {nemo} inaugurational no-man's land
[10:18] {Threei}  can't tell ADBE
[10:18] {Threei}  no clean chart
[10:19] {fernp} double bottom or good moment for a quick short on QQQQ?
[10:19] {cosmo} obamarational
[10:19] {Threei}  looks like short to me
[10:19] {geo} patience dcc pls
[10:19] {fernp} me too
[10:21] {ese} zgen   stopped -.10 1/2 lot
[10:22] {nemo} mmmhhh?  oil inventories soon
[10:22] {Threei}  US TREASURY SEC NOMINEE GEITHNER'S SENATE HEARING MOVED TO JAN 21 FROM JAN 15
[10:25] {dino} -9% dji, -8% ndx, -10% s&p in week
[10:25] {lisa_jay} TEVA
[10:27] {dino} wonder why...not
[10:27] {dino} new senate swore in
[10:30] {nemo} mmmhhh? S&P flirted in the 845 area, see if it holds
[10:30] {dino} beat spike
[10:30] {Threei}  DOE CRUDE: +1.14M V +2.5ME
[10:30] {Threei}  GASOLINE: +2.07M V +2ME; DISTILLATES: +6.35M V +1ME; UTILIZATION: 85.2% V 84.1%E
[10:31] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM  .40 break if stays under .55
[10:31] {nemo} WOW! well, at least the refineries won't have any problem doing maintenance this year.
[10:32] {KSystems} in RIMM
[10:32] {fernp} RIMM no available here
[10:32] {Threei}  1:1 in a hurry
[10:32] {nemo} nice vad
[10:33] {Threei}  half or scalp
[10:33] {Threei}  your choice
[10:33] {Threei}  covered half .21
[10:33] {_cujo} thanks Vad
[10:33] {Threei}  out baalance
[10:33] {Threei}  .07
[10:33] {Threei}  welocme cujo
[10:34] {Threei}  finally nailed something decent
[10:34] {KSystems} RIMM - in .39 - out 1/2 .25 - out rest .10
[10:34] {Threei}  wtg KS
[10:34] {KSystems} you have my permission to go ahead like that vad
[10:35] {Threei}  I just wanted to ask
[10:35] {KSystems} you better do
[10:35] {geo} hmmm
[10:35] {geo} we have a new admin in town
06[10:35] * geo bows and scrapes
[10:36] {Threei}  {KSystems} you better
[10:36] {nemo} ooohhh, ride that baby down
[10:37] {nemo} looks like oil might have taken down the market
[10:37] {Threei}  looking for bounce scalp RIMM
[10:37] {fernp} out QQQQ +.15 (too slow to be a quick scalp)
[10:37] {Threei}  a bit overextended
[10:37] {nemo} just got a hangman
[10:38] {Threei}  hey, I might get that bid at 14.01 on DRYS filled
[10:38] {Threei}  not sure I still want it though, lol
[10:38] {Onix} :)
[10:39] {nemo} nope
[10:39] {wishbone} rimm ty vad
[10:39] {Threei}  welcome wish
[10:39] {wishbone} held on to that
[10:40] {Threei}  how much did you get??
[10:40] {wishbone} 62
[10:40] {Threei}  and be informed, we do have policy of trouting for indecent profits
[10:40] {wishbone} on last 1/4
[10:40] {nemo} ay comrade
[10:40] {nemo} how do you define "indecent"?
[10:40] {Threei}  .62 is not very decent... but OK, this time you are forgiven
[10:40] {Threei}  sin no more though
[10:41] {Threei}  OK, watchi for double bottom RIMM
[10:41] {Threei}  holding above .50 is precondition
[10:41] {Threei}  market strength is needed (I know, tall order)
[10:42] {Threei}  jumped...
[10:42] {Threei}  tough to find entry, had to go on pure faith
[10:42] {dino} gj wish
[10:42] {wishbone} ty dino
[10:43] {lisa_jay} SQNM sold off 
[10:43] {dptl} .
[10:45] {nemo} almost 300 down on the dow-feels...normal...
[10:45] {Threei}  feels Octoberish
[10:47] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  .55 if stays above .40
[10:47] {Threei}  discretionary one
[10:47] {Threei}  kind of "could take a few tries"
[10:49] {Threei}  half out .72
[10:49] {Threei}  stop to .49
[10:51] {Threei}  stop to .55
[10:52] {Threei}  out in full .95
[10:52] {Threei}  +.38
[10:52] {fernp} excellent Vad. ty
[10:52] {Threei}  life looks a bit brighter
[10:52] {Threei}  fern :)
[10:52] {dino} gj
[10:53] {nemo} give it a minute, vad
[10:53] {KSystems} RIMM - in .59 - out 1/2 .69 - out rest .95
[10:53] {Threei}  ks :)
[10:53] {Threei}  lol nemo, eternal optimist eh?
[10:53] {nemo} realist. use psychological vaseline at all times
[10:57] {Threei}  this dive to .50 was so quick on RIMM, I didn't have a chance to even start typing alert
[10:58] {nemo} adbe setting up?
[10:58] {Threei}  for .31 long trigger?
[10:59] {nemo} you asking or telling?
[10:59] {Threei}  elaborating on your question :)
[10:59] {nemo} yes, for long-that's what I was thinking...I think I was thinking
[11:00] {Threei}  I like your thinking
[11:00] {Threei}  I think
[11:00] {Threei}  chart wise it's a valid setup
[11:00] {nemo} so, you belong in an institution also?:)
[11:00] {Threei}  with stop under .20
[11:00] {Threei}  belong??
[11:00] {Threei}  I run it!
[11:00] {Threei}  main question with this setup is,
[11:00] {Threei}  whether market is ready to start recovery
[11:01] {nemo} ahhh, inmates running the asylum-well the nas looks like it's fighting to climb
[11:01] {nemo} oh, good movie 9th configuration
[11:01] {nemo} eh..setup might be keeling over
[11:03] {dino} pattern says start buying around these levels, selling around 9000
[11:04] {nemo} missed drys double bottom with hangman
[11:11] {Threei}  DRYS is not making new lows with market
[11:11] {nemo} if rimm holds bottom?
[11:11] {Threei}  unlikely to go up without market help but firmed enough to be a long candidate on bounce
[11:12] {Threei}  RIMM's bottom is under .30
[11:12] {Threei}  need a trigger
[11:13] {nemo} nas droppin'
[11:13] {Threei}  mostl;y it looks like it's oing to revisit the low
[11:13] {nemo} oops
[11:13] {Threei}  there
[11:13] {nemo} almost a schadenfreude
[11:14] {Threei}  DRYS kept above .60 so afr
[11:15] {Threei}  and topping out around .67
[11:15] {Threei}  so... play starts shaping up
[11:15] {nemo} look at rimm
[11:15] {Threei}  .68 - .70 long if holding .60
[11:16] {Threei}  I just dodn't see how to structure RIMM play during that sharp drop
[11:17] {Threei}  it would be simply buying into selloff arbitrarily
[11:17] {Threei}  not my idea
[11:18] {dptl} in drys .69
[11:18] {nemo} ind drys .68
[11:18] {KSystems} in drys
[11:18] {nemo} check that not in was ready
[11:18] {nemo} now in 
[11:19] {Threei}  huh RIMM
[11:20] {Threei}  it starts moving against the market
[11:20] {Threei}  backing off, no leading indicator for it
[11:20] {nemo} adbe getting to break?
[11:20] {Threei}  if anything, it's a short
[11:20] {Threei}  RIMM that was
[11:21] {Threei}  I am not jazzed about it nemo...
[11:21] {nemo} ty
[11:21] {Threei}  NQ went up 7 points, ADBE couldn't make couple cent?
[11:21] {Threei}  just what kind of move does it want from market and how likely are we to get that kind of move?
[11:22] {nemo} tna
[11:22] {Threei}  maybe it's just delayed
[11:22] {Threei}  slow
[11:22] {Threei}  retarded
[11:22] {nemo} sorry, two computers
[11:22] {nemo} stop calling me names!
[11:22] {Threei}  soprry... Larisa already told me I am too rude
[11:22] {nemo} hurt my feelings :(
[11:22] {Threei}  half out DRYS, over 1:1
[11:23] {nemo} out drys +.10
[11:23] {nemo} don't trust market
[11:23] {dptl} out half .+.10 ty
[11:23] {Threei}  can't blame you
[11:24] {nemo} i have issues
[11:24] {Threei}  but I have this naive faith in humanity
[11:24] {Threei}  so I will offer the rest above .90
[11:24] {Threei}  and close my eyes
[11:24] {nemo} looks like you might be vindicated
[11:24] {Threei}  and wait for machnine-gun-like sound of order getting filled
[11:24] {dino}   don't bet this, but gut feel is end green
[11:25] {nemo} you have sound effects with laser
[11:25] {Threei}  yes sir
[11:25] {Threei}  and can share
[11:25] {nemo} please.  look at adbe
[11:25] {Threei}  I don't want to
[11:25] {nemo} can't force you
[11:26] {nemo} it's your bat, ball, and field
[11:26] {Threei}  that's a welcome relief from magoo's approach
[11:26] {nemo} which is?
[11:26] {Threei}  he phones me and calls me names if I don't do what he tells me
[11:26] {nemo} he's got a rifle
[11:26] {KSystems} how rude
[11:27] {Threei}  rude and proud of it
[11:27] {nemo} nicht geduldig, ksystems
[11:27] {Threei}  US) HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER HOYER (D): EXPECTS THE HOUSE TO PASS THE TARP RENEWAL BILL TODAY, SEES SENATE VOTING ON BILL SOME TIME THIS WEEK
[11:27] {KSystems} ganz und gar nicht
[11:27] {Threei}  here it starts again
[11:27] {nemo} uberhaupt nicht
[11:28] {nemo} there you go vad
[11:28] {Threei}  1/4 more DRYS out .88
[11:29] {nemo} adbe's falling over
[11:29] {Threei}  good
[11:29] {Threei}  lol
[11:29] {nemo} tna
[11:29] {nemo} did it again, sorry
[11:30] {Threei}  CHRYSLER SAYS PLANTS ARE ON TRACK TO REOPEN AS SCHEDULED ON JAN 19-20 - WSJ
[11:30] {Threei}  - Chrysler said could change plans if auto sales stay weak{GM}
[11:30] {nemo} that's definitive
[11:31] {Threei}  DRYS stop for the last portion is .65
[11:31] {Threei}  back in black
[11:32] {KSystems} hrmm not yet
[11:32] {KSystems} me at least
[11:32] {nemo} AC/C fan?
[11:32] {nemo} AC/DC
[11:32] {Threei}  you in DRYS still ks?
[11:32] {KSystems} yeah. one quart
[11:33] {nemo} wow drys
[11:33] {KSystems} but i also took one RIMM trade that wasnt really there. meaning, i saw market strength at one point where you didnt :)
[11:33] {KSystems} thats the reason
[11:33] {Threei}  with two sizeable RIMM wins and this DRYS, should be in black
[11:33] {Threei}  oh
[11:35] {Threei}  RIMM is remarkably weak
[11:35] {dino} lphi bloody, thin one
[11:36] {nemo} tza
[11:36] {nemo} damn
[11:38] {dptl} have a good rest of the day all......got to go...
[11:38] {fernp} bye dp
[11:38] {Threei}  take care dp
[11:39] {Threei}  FED'S PLOSSER: US WILL NOT BE A 'HOSTAGE' TO CHINA'S EASING GROWTH - COMMENTS TO REPORTERS
[11:39] {Threei}  - Notes wants the balance sheet to look better
[11:43] {KSystems} cujo, yould you look up in your top bar? there should be a PM from me
[11:44] {lisa_jay} ctxs
[11:44] {KSystems} jamie?
[11:46] {nemo} jaimie is seine geheimname
[11:47] {KSystems} ;)
[11:49] {lisa_jay} sqnm
[11:50] {hawkfan4} was just gonna type that lisa, 24.05 break for a scalp, risky
[11:50] {larisa} good alert earlier on SQNM bottom lisa
[11:51] {ese} alright....who cut me off.........why aye otta.......
[11:51] {lisa_jay} I am in, so please Hawk your buying power would set it off.
[11:51] {lisa_jay} Thanks Larisa.
[11:51] {hawkfan4} lol :)
[11:52] {KSystems} nemo just doubleclick my nick
[11:52] {KSystems} and use that window
[11:57] {Threei}  guys, quick comment while it's relatively quiet
[11:57] {Threei}  bahamas conference agenda is finalized, aith dates and venue
[11:58] {Threei}  use banner from our homepage to read the details
[11:58] {Threei}  and make sure to let me know who decides to attend
[11:58] {Threei}  officially, so we shake hands, chat, have a drink... in reality, so I could hide from you
[11:59] {Threei}  (magoo oarticularly)
[11:59] {nemo} Drinks plural
[12:00] {Threei}  certainly in Russian
[12:03] {nemo} Don't worry, he can't get the rifle to the Bahamas
[12:04] {nemo} ehh...shoulda' played ADBE
[12:04] {Threei}  he has elbows... and I asked dino to put his elbow in magoo's ribcage on my behalf too many times
[12:05] {nemo} I'll protect you.  My rates are reasonable
[12:07] {dino} will do
[12:08] {nemo} Vaddddddd...How you gonna' hide...you're presenting!!!
[12:08] {Threei}  I'll wear ski mask
[12:09] {nemo} Ahh...you can always send your nice twin...
[12:09] {geo} you mean the thin twin
[12:10] {nemo} I wasn't going there
[12:10] {Threei}  lol
[12:10] {Threei}  first who says smart twin gets bludgeoned wqith trout
[12:10] {nemo} smart TWIN
06[12:10] * geo slaps nemo around a bit with a large trout
06[12:11] * Threei practices restraint
[12:11] {geo} orders are ordes
[12:11] {nemo} look behind you geo :)
06[12:11] * geo ducks
[12:12] {lisa_jay} Hawk...SQNM looking like a bear flag now to me...not moving.
[12:12] {nemo} Vad...what's read on market.  Seems to be steadily recovering
[12:13] {Threei}  yes... not sure about lunch time moves though
[12:13] {hawkfan4} i still like it if it breaks .05 lisa, under .80 not so much
[12:13] {nemo} Understand.  Volumes seem to be steady
[12:13] {lisa_jay} I was a bit premature....entered on break of .04.
[12:14] {dino} deck big turnaround
[12:14] {lisa_jay} Now it cant do it again.  Stop is under .80...losing .90 is shaky now.
[12:15] {nemo} lisa...you playin' sqnm?
[12:15] {Threei}  can DRYS break 15?
[12:15] {lisa_jay} yes Nemo
[12:16] {lisa_jay} Might get stopped out i think.
[12:17] {nemo} gonna' be close
[12:21] {Threei}  DRYS is trying to form C&H
[12:22] {Threei}  US CONGRESSMAN LEVIN: EXPECTS OBAMA ADMINSTRATION WILL LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS TO PUT PRESSURE ON CHINA TO REVALUE THE YUAN
[12:23] {nemo} What...devalue the $ and thus devalue their treasuries...they ain't stupid.
[12:23] {lisa_jay} APOL coiled.
[12:23] {Threei}  DRYS ruined setup before triggering
[12:25] {nemo} yeah...apol looks interesting lisa
[12:25] {nemo} lunchtime market souring a bit
[12:26] {Threei}  so far just listless drifitng
[12:26] {nemo} a Bohemian afternoon
[12:30] {dino} inflate that debt away 3i
[12:30] {Threei}  yup... and commodities deflation helps
[12:31] {i2romantis} took PALM at .37 sm l and EGLE at .44 sm l, selling at around 3:30 or so.
[12:31] {Threei}  i2r firmly sawitched to trading in time units
[12:32] {i2romantis} that's when I don't have enough time for scalping
[12:32] {i2romantis} by the way, went through the CDs, morning tune up etc, what a great concept, really loved it
[12:33] {Threei}  :)
[12:36] {nemo} Vad, vodka o.k. for morning tuneup?
[12:37] {Threei}  and afternoon polish-up
[12:37] {nemo} and evening dust up
[12:38] {dino} indeed nemo
[12:38] {nemo} I was just going to say are we getting an HS top on ADBE
[12:38] {i2romantis} lol
[12:39] {dino} asei spike, thin
[12:40] {i2romantis} I don't know if everyone went through the entire program, by I wish I had access to this back in 2003, i'd be in a lot better shape now
[12:40] {Threei}  I may have to take it...
[12:40] {i2romantis} Has anyone played with stops that simply are about to die, i.e. bancruptcy cases?
[12:40] {Threei}  my shape is wanting
[12:40] {i2romantis} stocks*
06[12:40] * geo rushes to heal vads hand
[12:40] {i2romantis} lol
06[12:41] * geo thinks too much patting may have damaged it
[12:41] {nemo} What's vad talking about?
[12:41] {dino} no, most likely they will get wiped out, halted, etc
[12:41] {nemo} Is that his bad shoulder?
[12:42] {i2romantis} k
[12:42] {geo} y
[12:42] {nemo} jelly
[12:42] {wishbone} lol
[12:42] {wishbone} quick wit
[12:43] {nemo} that was kind
[12:43] {wishbone} roflol
[12:43] {wishbone} that was awesome nemo
[12:43] {geo} lol
[12:43] {nemo} broken clock. I'm usually right twice a day
[12:45] {Threei}  long time no see - FMCN
[12:45] {Threei}  climbing against the market
[12:45] {nemo} they got in a lot of trouble in China for cell phone spamming
[12:47] {nemo} lisa, did you get stopped?
[12:48] {Threei}  FSLR
[12:48] {Threei}  HEARING PIPER JAFFRAY MAKING POSITIVE COMMENTS
[12:50] {dino} they need to unload some
[12:57] {_cujo} drya near 15 again
[12:57] {_cujo} drys
[12:57] {Threei}  yes cujo... problem is, it didn't form its own setup
[12:57] {Threei}  simply drifted with market
[12:58] {_cujo} got ya
[12:58] {Threei}  it's scalpable if it gives a delay vs strong market move
[12:58] {nemo} ty vad
[12:58] {Threei}  not really this case
[12:59] {Threei}  a bit earlier when it formed C&H,
[12:59] {Threei}  if it finished the formation and broke wikth market help, that would be a very valid play
[12:59] {nemo} vad, on sqnm that volatility between 12;42 and 12:50, was that to shake out stops?
[13:00] {Threei}  well, not a malicious plan
[13:00] {Threei}  thin stock does this kind of things easily
[13:00] {Threei}  and market drifted lower at the time
[13:01] {nemo} ty
[13:01] {Threei}  resault is just the same though
[13:01] {i2romantis} nevermind, took PALM and EGLE profits and set buys lower for later play
[13:01] {Threei}  FED'S STERN: CREDIT STRAINS ARE REAL, MARKET CONCERNS ARE AFFECTING ECONOMY RECOVERY, PLENTLY OF TIME TO BRING DOWN FED BALANCE SHEET
[13:01] {Threei}  how exactly do they plan to bring it down?
[13:02] {Threei}  WSJ REPORTS THE STIMULUS PACKAGE IS CURRENTLY REACHING A TOTAL OF $850B
[13:02] {Threei}  merely?
[13:02] {Threei}  by the time all pork-seekers are done with it, ijt will be 1.5T
[13:05] {dino} as a % of gdp not even our highest.
[13:05] {Threei}  no
[13:06] {Threei}  my point is... at any point in time, do these guys intend to tell us
[13:06] {Threei}  what they did with everything they got so far
[13:06] {dino} and, don't kid yourself, they are planning to de-value $ by up to 30%, sothat will take care of 1/3 of it
[13:06] {Threei}  and everything they ask for?
[13:06] {wishbone} whatever happened to m3 reporting?
[13:06] {dino} no on your point.
[13:06] {Threei}  lol
[13:06] {Threei}  OK
[13:06] {Threei}  just asking
[13:07] {dino} they don't really care, every administration puts it on a future one
[13:07] {dino} they care about elections, plain and simple
[13:07] {Threei}  wait
[13:07] {dino} wasn't obama going to balance this in his campaign? see...
[13:07] {Threei}  you mean main thing politician carees about is election??
[13:07] {Threei}  noooo
[13:07] {Threei}  tell me it isn't so
[13:08] {Threei}  my world is crashing
[13:08] {dino} promise the world, but do as you please
[13:09] {larisa} just like men
[13:10] {lisa_jay} apol
[13:10] {dino} lol, tell them what they want to hear larisa
[13:10] {Threei}  and make sure lipstick is very red
[13:11] {Threei}  wow DRYS
[13:11] {Threei}  brutal drop
[13:11] {Threei}  breakout buyers just got
[13:11] {Threei}  umm
[13:11] {Threei}  what's the word
[13:11] {dino} deck blood
[13:16] {Threei}  look ACOR daily
[13:16] {Threei}  what a beautiful breakout formation
[13:16] {Threei}  I wish market had a bit more confidence, I'd take this play in a heartbeat
[13:17] {Threei}  and for much more than a scalp
[13:17] {Threei}  25 is written all over it
[13:19] {Threei}  selling wave is coming ost likely
[13:20] {Threei}  watch DRYS for these quick trips down about 10-15 cents, usually provides small scalp opportunity on bounce
[13:20] {lisa_jay} Beige book at 2.
[13:21] {Threei}  the way it looks lately, it should be named black book
[13:21] {dino} pandora's box
[13:25] {Threei}  FED'S STERN: THERE WERE NO GOOD OPTIONS TO SAVE LEHMAN
[13:25] {nemo} acor
[13:25] {nemo} damn
[13:25] {Threei}  ?
[13:26] {nemo} two computers
[13:26] {Threei}  ah
[13:26] {nemo} trying to get the gps coordinates of your office
[13:28] {Threei}  watch DRYS for losing .80, quick drop and immediate bounce
[13:29] {nemo} resistance?
[13:29] {Threei}  PREVIEW: FED'S BEIGE BOOK SURVEY OF REGIONAL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS TO BE RELEASED AT 2PMET
[13:29] {Threei}  **reminder: the last Beige Book, released on 12/3 stated:
[13:29] {Threei}  - the economy weakened across all districts since early October, manufacturing declined in most districts, lending contracted, loans terms got tighter.
[13:31] {Threei}  C, what a disaster
[13:32] {nemo} Prince Alaweed must be BS!!
[13:32] {Threei}  why didn't we short 5 breakdown?
[13:32] {nemo} Your running the asylum, remember?
[13:35] {dino} lol
[13:39] {_jamie} bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb!!!!!
[13:39] {dptl} back
[13:45] {dino} ..
[13:45] {Threei}  closest resistance for C is 4.80
[13:46] {Threei}  worth watching, maybe short will shape up
[13:54] {lisa_jay} .
[13:54] {Threei}  market is locked in 5-10 points
[13:54] {lisa_jay} :-)
[13:54] {Threei}  anyone's guess which way it breaks
[13:54] {Threei}  when it does
[13:54] {Threei}  and if it does
[13:55] {Threei}  I mean, may be it never breaks... just stays here forever
[13:55] {larisa} you still can not retire
[13:56] {Threei}  sigh
[13:58] {i2romantis} lol
[13:59] {i2romantis} but he's going to bahamas
[13:59] {larisa} that he can do as soon as he comes back :)
[14:00] {larisa} soon=long
[14:00] {larisa} english is so hard
[14:01] {peterg} anguish languish
[14:01] {Threei}  FED'S BEIGE BOOK: GENERALLY WEAK CONDITIONS IN MANUFACTURING AND HOUSING, ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WEAKNENED FURTHER IN LAST MONTH
[14:01] {Threei}  I don't know Larisa... some never return from that place...
[14:02] {Threei}  must be dangerous
[14:02] {Threei}  Wages pressures have remained largerly contained, layoffs continue in most districts
[14:02] {Threei}  - Sizeable price discounting seen during holidays
[14:02] {Threei}  - Seeing lending activity has fallen with tighter conditions; credit quality still a concern
[14:02] {i2romantis} this isn't your first visit there, Vad, is it?
[14:02] {Threei}  bahamas first
[14:02] {dino} trojan attack hit system, just blocked
[14:03] {Threei}  I am mostly Hawaiian guy
[14:05] {Threei}  as expected, Beige book is not much of event
[14:07] {Threei}  whis strange actually
[14:07] {Threei}  I mean:
[14:07] {Threei}  layoffs continue, prices drop, lending falls, etc
[14:07] {Threei}  how come we don't rally yet?
[14:09] {Threei}  I start getting feeling we are about to
[14:10] {Threei} Long Setup:  ACOR  23.16 break half lot
[14:10] {Threei}  if stays above 23
[14:14] {dino} giddy-up\
[14:14] {larisa} please market, not all the way down
[14:14] {Threei}  with poullback forst, but feels like generally giddy up
[14:14] {Threei}  oh boy
[14:15] {Threei}  my typing seems to be getting worse by minute
[14:16] {Threei}  PRES ELECT OBAMA: EXPECTING TIMOTHY GEITHNER TO BE CONFIRMED AS NEXT TREASURY SECRETARY
[14:17] {Threei}  squeeze is coming IMO
[14:18] {Threei}  unless of course someone in political circles opens their big mouth again
[14:20] {Threei}  NQ needs to break 1170
[14:21] {Threei}  QQQQ corresponding level is .85
06[14:24] * Threei kicks the market in the rear with heavy duty army boots
[14:24] {KSystems} ACOR valid even with market dropping?
[14:24] {Threei}  higher chance of shakeout
[14:24] {Threei}  but with half lot, worth a try
[14:25] {Threei}  it want market support but it's not exactly market follower
[14:27] {KSystems} in ACOR then
[14:27] {KSystems} .18
[14:32] {nemo} am i back?
[14:32] {KSystems} yep
[14:32] {nemo} vielen dank
[14:33] {peterg} hmmm.......I seem to have been gone, too
[14:33] {Threei}  ACOR hit 1:1
[14:33] {peterg} diese ganze verfluchte systeme
[14:33] {KSystems} yep out ACOR .36
[14:34] {KSystems} thank you :)
[14:34] {Threei}  sure
[14:34] {nemo} verdammte!
[14:34] {Threei}  and market starts squeeze I was talking about for so long..., like Bolshevik about revolution
[14:34] {peterg} genau!
[14:34] {Threei}  guys, I'd advice to set up mIRC
[14:34] {Threei}  or advise
[14:34] {peterg} would if could
[14:35] {peterg} 3
[14:35] {Threei}  hobbit is still a third party
[14:35] {peterg} x now
[14:35] {nemo} sorry I missed the revolution
[14:35] {Threei}  talk to KS
[14:35] {Threei}  he will help
[14:35] {peterg} ill try tmo am
[14:35] {Threei}  it's not really that hard, just had to gnaw through it one time
[14:35] {peterg} before open
[14:35] {Threei}  ACOR is coming into 1:2
[14:36] {KSystems} I'll be here early tomorrow
[14:36] {peterg} tks
[14:36] {nemo} Yeah, but early for you is really lunchtime KS
[14:36] {KSystems} huh? you in china, nemo?
[14:39] {Threei}  OK guys, make your decision on ACOR
[14:39] {Threei}  I still believe it has more upside in general,
[14:39] {Threei}  but it spiked vertically
[14:40] {Threei}  and we are still in a very shaky market
[14:40] {Threei}  1:2 is nothing to sneeze at
[14:41] {wishbone} anyone else lose connection to room?
[14:41] {KSystems} everybody connected via mibbit did, wish
[14:41] {hawkfan4} yes wish
[14:41] {Threei}  yes wish, KS was power-hungry and decided to demosntrate everyone on hobbit he can kick
[14:41] {wishbone} ok ty
[14:42] {dino} y wish
[14:42] {Threei}  again guys... go once through this pain and set up mirc
[14:44] {nemo} I got disconnected on the mirc
[14:45] {Threei}  that must have been ping delay
[14:45] {Threei}  all others who are on mirc stayed connected
[14:45] {dino} or pong
[14:45] {Threei}  or that
[14:45] {nemo} yeah my ping's a little short
[14:45] {wishbone} lol
[14:47] {Threei}  ok, ACOR firmed the day as green... now it's mine to lose
[14:50] {peterg} rude
[14:50] {peterg} peremptory
[14:50] {peterg} haughty
[14:59] {Threei}  ACOR nice run... 60 cents from trigger
[15:00] {dino} somebody slap me, thinking of long swing trades
06[15:00] * Threei slaps dino around a bit with a large reminder it's not a bull market yet
[15:01] {dino} ty
[15:02] {nemo} gotta' head out and miss all the last minute excitement.  Hate to have to pull out early
[15:03] {patience} what are you thinking of trading dino?
[15:04] {dino} gg, mcd, wmt, t
[15:04] {patience} short?
[15:05] {dino} maybe safer to just buy some s&p
[15:05] {dino} no thinking bounce time 
[15:05] {dino} of course, maybe we do not hold
[15:05] {Threei}  ED
[15:06] {Threei}  10 CONED SUPERVISORS HAVE REPORTEDLY BEEN CHARGED IN KICK BACK SCHEME OVER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS
[15:06] {patience} what i know for sure is that there are too many unknowns out there, scalping works right now
[15:07] {dino} -11% on s/p, dji, 10% ndx
[15:07] {dino} since 01/06
[15:07] {dino} safer yes
[15:08] {dino} i'm just seeing the pattern, 8100-8300 to 9000
[15:08] {Threei}  ED... .20 break probably worth a try on a short side if stays under .30
[15:13] {KSystems} in ED
[15:13] {magoo} baxck
[15:13] {wishbone} in ed
[15:13] {Threei}  you missed ACOR mags?
[15:13] {magoo} ED price looks a lil soft
[15:13] {magoo} yeah
[15:13] {Threei}  grrr
[15:14] {magoo} tech difficulties here
[15:14] {Threei}  was your kind of play
[15:14] {magoo} points?
[15:14] {Threei}  about 60 cents
[15:15] {magoo} nice
[15:15] {Threei}  die ED
[15:16] {Threei}  ACOR just goes
[15:16] {Threei}  told ya it wasn't a scalp
[15:17] {Threei}  ED almost 1:1 on last dive...
[15:18] {Threei}  full dollar ACOR
[15:19] {larisa} lol, can get to 25 
[15:19] {dino} patience, pull up 3 or 4 month index charts, see what happens starting week before expiration.
[15:20] {Threei}  [13:17] {Threei} 25 is written all over it
[15:20] {dino} gj
[15:20] {Threei}  hit 24.94
[15:21] {dino} and see what happens last week of month
[15:21] {Threei}  sheesh ED... 1 cent shy of 1:1
[15:21] {Threei}  and bounced all the way back?
[15:21] {Threei}  aggressive entry was the way to go on it... near .30
[15:21] {Threei}  hindsight is always 20/20
[15:22] {larisa} it ignored news, followed market though
[15:22] {Threei}  yes
[15:22] {wishbone} stopped ed
[15:23] {patience} looking now dino
[15:23] {KSystems} ed stopped
[15:25] {magoo} easy 25 acor vad
[15:25] {magoo} and more
[15:26] {Threei}  well... with original call at 23.16, I am a bit hesitant to get it here :)
[15:26] {Threei}  but here is my 25
[15:26] {larisa} how did you find ACOR vad ? it had no volume.
[15:26] {hawkfan4} beauty vad, call that is
[15:27] {Threei}  thank you for elaboration hawk
[15:27] {Threei}  scanner lasrisa
[15:27] {larisa} do not call me that
[15:27] {Threei}  sorry
[15:27] {larisa} lol
[15:27] {Threei}  :)
[15:28] {Threei}  with my typing skills, I call a lot of people a lot of things
[15:28] {Threei}  to be fair, they do the same to me
[15:28] {larisa} I do not, so expect same from you
[15:28] {Threei}  strict gal...
[15:30] {dino} week before -5%to -10%+ then end of month spikes 5%+ to 10%
[15:30] {Threei}  with inauguration and some steps being announced immediately after, dino...
[15:30] {Threei}  anything can happen
[15:31] {dino} 3:35-3:40 time
[15:31] {dino} since oct. tho, this is the pattern
[15:32] {dino} major window dress at end of month (fed says, don't worry about it, keep investoprs from seeing truth, wink wink)
[15:32] {Threei}  interestingly, DRYS didn't follow the market down this time
[15:32] {dino} then major hits start week before expiration through exp.
[15:33] {patience} and i've scalped options on this pattern but it feels like it is changing
[15:34] {dino} ok, at least you see what i see, i wanted to know if it was just me
[15:35] {dino} altho, not sure on changing, jan right on so far
[15:35] {dino} do you feel up change or down chgange patience
[15:35] {patience} down
[15:36] {dino} meaning breaking down lower?
[15:36] {patience} y
[15:36] {dino} ok
[15:36] {wishbone} vad us in acor?
[15:36] {Threei}  no
[15:36] {wishbone} ok ty
[15:38] {KSystems} may i ask where you exited?
[15:39] {Threei}  me? ACOR?
[15:39] {KSystems} yeah
[15:39] {Threei}  .34 and .65
[15:39] {KSystems} oh
[15:39] {KSystems} ok
[15:39] {patience} dino, just remember i was one who believed you would never see oil below 80 again or the u.s. dollar gaining
[15:39] {larisa} lol
[15:40] {fernp} RIMM lod
[15:40] {dino} you may be right here on markets
[15:41] {dino} and i understand, just respect your feel
[15:42] {patience} my sister and i, just because we're cheap, decided to cash in our bonus points with various programs for gas coupons, etc.    who knows how long those programs last when redemption requests hit them.....  lol
[15:42] {dino} makes ense
[15:44] {Threei}  barring some geopolitical developments, I start getting this feel that oil won't hold above 30
[15:45] {Threei}  and if not for Gaza war, it would probably be there already
[15:47] {dino} and ironically, we are challenging record lows in my area today, tomorrow and sat.
[15:48] {Threei}  that's a matter for Al Gore
[15:48] {KSystems} well :) russians didnt cut off your gas, did they :))
06[15:48] * larisa slaps KSystems around a bit with a large trout
[15:48] {KSystems} not you!
[15:48] {larisa} lol
[15:48] {KSystems} tey really did
[15:49] {dino} no
[15:49] {larisa} you are cold KS ?
[15:49] {Threei}  12:23] {Threei} (RU) RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO EU: RUSSIA IS "TOO CIVILIZED" TO CUT OFF ENERGY SUPPLIES TO THE EU
[15:49] {Threei}  [12:24] {Threei} let's remember this 'too civilized"
[15:49] {Threei}  [12:24] {Threei} my prediction is, come winter we will have a few occasions to return to this sentence
[15:49] {dino} but u.s. is going thru major freeze right now
[15:49] {Threei}  08/29
[15:50] {wishbone} vad how did u find that so fast?
[15:50] {patience} i'll do my part dino...sending you the giant container of vodka martini's that sits next to the diet food - emergency energy supply
[15:51] {dino} nice
[15:51] {Threei}  knowing I'll have my fun with it come winter, I saved it :)
[15:51] {wishbone} lol
[15:51] {Threei}  anyway, can you be "too covolized"?
[15:51] {Threei}  civilized
[15:51] {wishbone} but now u told secret and i'm not as impressed
[15:52] {larisa} not Russians of course, Ukranians can :)
[15:52] {Threei}  well, you are supposed to be impressed by my prophetic powers, not by fast search :)
[15:52] {wishbone} like magician showing secret to trick:)
[15:52] {dino} rumors mark to market repeal
[15:53] {Threei}  again?
[15:53] {Threei}  I am telling you... we are totally back in September
[15:53] {Threei}  or October
[15:53] {Threei}  which I don't mind actually
[15:54] {dino} it should be repealed, they are marking these assets at 10-20% on the $, ridiculous
[15:54] {Threei}  the farther this uncertainty pushes market down, the hugeer our rally will be
[15:55] {Threei}  or enormouseer
[15:55] {KSystems} ouch
[15:55] {KSystems} unbelievabler?
[15:55] {dino} lol, word
[15:55] {larisa} lol
[15:55] {Threei}  double e, KS
[15:55] {KSystems} unbeelievabler?
[15:55] {Threei}  unbelieavbleer
[15:55] {KSystems} what does it have to do with bees
[15:55] {KSystems} oh
[15:56] {Threei}  and that should have been a question to Shakespear... he tried to count bees with his famolus "Two bee or not two bee"?
[15:57] {larisa} ok, this one IS funny
[15:57] {Threei}  FINALLY!
[15:57] {KSystems} yes i have to admit
[15:57] {Threei}  my life purpose is acheieved
[15:58] {KSystems} still no time for retirement
[15:58] {KSystems} FORGET that
[15:58] {Raven} {-------- faints
[15:58] {Threei}  what retirement? I can die happily now
[15:58] {Threei}  sorry R... I know it must have huirt
[15:58] {KSystems} even this is cosidered form of retirement and requires approval
[15:58] {Threei}  I wonder how peter took that
[16:00] {Threei}  OK guys... not easy by any means but much better day than last two
[16:00] {Threei}  thank you all
[16:00] {larisa} see you  guys, KS stay warm, sorry about russians :)
[16:00] {Threei}  have a good evening
[16:00] {_cujo} thanks Vad
[16:00] {_cujo} you too
[16:00] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[16:00] {wishbone} good nite all
[16:00] {Threei}  nag KS about that mirc
[16:00] {_cujo} bright and early
06[16:00] * KSystems slaps larisa around a big with a large russian
[16:00] {larisa} lol
[16:00] {Threei}  the more you tire him the less he will object against my retirement
[16:01] {dptl} gn all