Session Start: Wed Dec 19 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Wed Dec 19 00:00:00 2007
[05:39] {magoo} morning, i have a daytrade call again
[05:39] {BillyD} sheesh
[05:39] {BillyD} un talk to laserdave
[05:39] {magoo} 952k
[05:39] {BillyD} ouch
[05:40] {magoo} well, it will be bogus BUT, knocks me out until 11 or whole day
[05:40] {BillyD} they having this problem w/ other people as well
[05:40] {Threei} oh boy CSIQ
[05:40] {Threei} good morning all
[05:40] {magoo} just me and 1 other
[05:41] {magoo} morn vad
[05:41] {BillyD} Vad:)
[05:41] {Threei} you fully expected it though magoo
[05:41] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:41] {magoo} yeah, but see it knocks me out
[05:41] {BillyD} when u said 2 mill yesterday , I never thoguht it would be close...then 952K
[05:41] {magoo} u may have 4 good ones early
[05:41] {magoo} i out until 11 am or whole day
[05:42] {Threei} phone them?
[05:42] {Threei} to take care of it quickly
[05:43] {magoo} i try, we will see
[05:44] {BillyD} frpt getting bigger haircut, guess the Pentagon contract not real
[05:44] {Threei} it is, just FRPT's share is less than expected
[05:44] {Threei} there was a piece of news earlier
[05:45] {BillyD} so tape wins????
[05:45] {Threei} as always :)
[05:45] {BillyD} :)
[05:45] {cosmo} FRPT pre mkt high = 4.50 fyi
[05:46] {cosmo} DGIT
[05:48] {cosmo} DG FastChannel to buy Vyvx advt business from Level 3
[05:48] {cosmo} at Reuters (Wed 8:28am)
[05:48] {cosmo} DG FastChannel updates forecasts
[05:48] {cosmo} at MarketWatch (Wed 7:26am)
[05:51] {Threei} if 28.05 gives up on CSIQ, probably another run
[05:51] {Threei} has this determined look about it
[05:51] {BillyD} premkt trigger?
[05:52] {Threei} ugh... it's very risky one even during normal hours :)
[05:52] {BillyD} the .90 area was trigger earlier
[05:52] {BillyD} I figured a .40 stop and passed
[05:53] {BillyD} plus up a pt already when I looked closer, originally ythoguht it hadn't run yet.....not awake obviously
[05:56] {cosmo} DGIT pre mkt high = 21.80 ...so far
[05:56] {Threei} 28.84 pre-market high so far
[05:56] {Threei} grabbed a little when big bid appeared at 28
[05:59] {BillyD} [06:52] {Threei} ugh... it's very risky one even during normal hours :)
[06:00] {BillyD} hmmmm....guess this doesn't mean no :)
[06:00] {Threei} fair warning
[06:00] {BillyD} rofl
[06:01] {BillyD} what is your stop....under .80
[06:01] {Threei} I guess
[06:02] {Threei} see, all those bids are real
[06:02] {BillyD} I took that 200 earlier at .93
[06:02] {Threei} so choice is between taking small stop if breaks the support, or letting it trade counting on insane run later on, kind of it put out yeaterday
[06:03] {cosmo} frpt tests 4.50 maybe
[06:03] {BillyD} open might shake it if no run here
[06:03] {Threei} FRPT again...
[06:03] {Threei} AWARDED $379 MILLION MRAP CONTRACT, ADDITIONAL FOREIGN MILITARY SALES ORDERS TO FOLLOW
[06:04] {cosmo} hmm
[06:04] {Threei} something's rotten eh?
[06:04] {cosmo} usually
[06:06] {esemde} good morning.......2nd last show tonight...one more on friday and then done...still alive to tell the tale...
[06:06] {Threei} ese :)
[06:07] {Threei} good survival skills
[06:07] {esemde} mornign Vad....
[06:07] {esemde} i'll say....
[06:09] {Threei} CSIQ had no news to its yesterday run
[06:09] {Threei} still none
[06:10] {esemde} got stopped out of ESLR....around high noon yesterday....went long again with another 200shs at 15.21
[06:10] {Threei} PEIX is ethanol stock, no?
[06:10] {cosmo} yes
[06:10] {esemde} yes
[06:11] {Threei} with this bill getting signed... who knows
[06:11] {cosmo} dgit
[06:12] {cosmo} 21.8 test
[06:12] {esemde} NUAN bouncing this morning as well...
[06:14] {dptl} good morning all
[06:14] {Threei} dp :)
[06:14] {esemde} dp
[06:14] {BillyD} dp
[06:15] {esemde} hows the weather on the mainland....warm christmas so far
[06:15] {dptl} rain
[06:15] {cosmo} "
[06:17] {esemde} Vad read an article yesterday where Lehman Brothers are buying solars stocks
[06:17] {esemde} they are saying its the next big move in energy stocks
[06:17] {Threei} yeah, this mania feels far from over
[06:18] {esemde} the one that they are taking positions are.. FSLR JASO SPWR ESLR
[06:19] {Threei} maybe it's their fat finger hit CSIQ yesterday {G}
[06:19] {esemde} could have been....
[06:19] {esemde} with no real news to speak of
[06:20] {Threei} yeah, 6 points run out of nowhere
[06:20] {esemde} anyone get any of that
[06:20] {Threei} 70 cents quick scalp
[06:21] {Threei} [11:58] {Threei} small shares if 26 is taken again
[06:21] {Threei} [12:01] {Threei} out half .35
[06:21] {Threei} [12:02] {Threei} out in full
[06:21] {Threei} [12:02] {Threei} .70
[06:22] {esemde} beauty ehhh...
[06:22] {dino} gm all
[06:22] {esemde} dino
[06:22] {Threei} dino :)
[06:22] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:23] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:24] {BillyD} L :)
[06:25] {Threei} Billy, I'll dump it if .75 is getting hit
[06:25] {BillyD} k
[06:25] {Threei} will revisit later for sure
[06:26] {esemde} whoa....ESLR...20% shs short positions....that could spell short squeeze with any upward presure next few days
[06:27] {bruce} wow - pag - bid .02c - ask 18.84
[06:28] {BillyD} out
[06:28] {Threei} yeah
[06:28] {Threei} let's let it trade, will see if it becomes readable later on
[06:29] {esemde} which stock you talking about Vad
[06:29] {Threei} CSIQ
[06:31] {BillyD} enough to shake us
[06:33] {Threei} this is far from readable
[06:34] {BillyD} very
[06:34] {dino} dgit
[06:35] {bruce} rmbs 20 break?
[06:35] {dino} s .97
[06:35] {BillyD} nice entry dino
[06:35] {Threei} 08:00am [RMBS] Guides Q4 Revenues $40M v $48Me
[06:36] {Threei} I'd stay away
[06:36] {bruce} k
[06:37] {dino} ty bd lucky
[06:37] {dino} stopped .47, +.50
[06:38] {bruce} emkr looks short
[06:39] {esemde} bstop PEIX .36
[06:43] {esemde} me thinks if the market goes positive PEIX with go with
[06:43] {Roman} long MGPI
[06:44] {Roman} should following PEIX
[06:44] {Threei} LOCM?
[06:45] {dino} sgr l .74 stop lod
[06:46] {esemde} solf .....
[06:46] {esemde} ESLR following
[06:47] {bruce} adctshort?
[06:47] {Roman} FCEL long setup
[06:48] {Threei} if loses .40 while stays under .50, ADCT...
[06:49] {esemde} my solar screen is a sea of green......
[06:50] {Threei} SOLF is probably aiming for 27 and possibly higher
[06:50] {esemde} bstop PEIX removed
[06:52] {esemde} CSUN....
[06:54] {Threei} CPST 52 week high
[06:55] {esemde} how do you play penny stocks Vad
[06:55] {esemde} big lots?
[06:55] {Threei} big lots, small movements
[06:55] {Threei} if I get 5-10 cents, it's wow
[06:56] {lumdus} we shorting adct ?
[06:56] {Threei} ?
[06:56] {Threei} trigger was .40 breakdown
[06:57] {Threei} stop was 11-12 cents, it's at 1:1 already
[06:57] {lumdus} ok, thank you
[06:58] {Threei} SOLF made it to 27
[06:59] {esemde} thats a hmmmmmmmm......
[07:00] {Threei} ESLR, .21 long if holding above .10
[07:04] {dino} out sgr .74, +1.00
[07:04] {bruce} nice dino
[07:05] {dino} ty bruce
[07:05] {dino} way too soon
[07:08] {Threei} SOLF small shares long 27 break
[07:08] {BillyD} stop .75 so far on SOLF
[07:09] {Threei} under .70 I'd say
[07:09] {BillyD} ok
[07:09] {BillyD} was
[07:09] {BillyD} PEIX looks ready
[07:09] {Threei} aggresively, .70 break
[07:10] {Threei} qwith stop under .50
[07:11] {BillyD} in .74
[07:11] {Threei} needs NQ breaking over 2040 probably to continue the run
[07:11] {lumdus} solf .70 break ?
[07:11] {cosmo} frpt
[07:11] {cosmo} 4.50 soon
[07:11] {Threei} yes lum
[07:12] {Threei} .85 break should spring it up
[07:13] {Threei} NQ weakens
[07:13] {Threei} SOLF cares not
[07:13] {Threei} half out
[07:13] {BillyD} yes
[07:14] {lumdus} solf .. dammm quick .
[07:14] {Threei} 27.20 should set it for another jump
[07:14] {esemde} nice Vad
[07:14] {BillyD} new stop Vad?
[07:14] {Threei} under .70
[07:15] {Threei} oh well
[07:15] {BillyD} yeah
[07:15] {Threei} too volatile for precise trailing
[07:15] {Threei} but no reason to risk big
[07:16] {BillyD} yeah, just have to take easy money and reenter
[07:16] {dino} ms s .80
[07:19] {BillyD} thi mkt so fickle lately
[07:19] {BillyD} s
[07:20] {esemde} indeed
[07:22] {lumdus} solf 10:1 :)
[07:22] {Threei} SOLF aiming for 28
[07:22] {Threei} but heck...
[07:22] {lumdus} new stop on solf ?
[07:22] {Threei} I can't read it with any degree of precision, it's too volatile
[07:23] {lumdus} sold at market
[07:23] {lumdus} filled 27.08 no crying
[07:24] {dino} ms stopped .91 -.11
[07:26] {dino} s dgit .50
[07:26] {Roman} long FCEL
[07:26] {Roman} 11.06
[07:27] {Roman} 1/3 size
[07:28] {dino} fxp l .85
[07:30] {esemde} all of a sudden. very windy in patience's and my end of town Vad. What it like for you up the penninsula?
[07:30] {Threei} same
[07:31] {esemde} suppose to get to 50 to 70km per hour
[07:31] {Threei} with possible loss of power...
[07:31] {BillyD} EPIX may be a short off .80 if holds here
[07:31] {esemde} i would think so...
[07:34] {dino} out fxp .89, +.04
[07:34] {Roman} out PEIX swing from 5 area
[07:35] {Roman} still in MGPI
[07:35] {BillyD} nice job Roman
[07:35] {Roman} ty
[07:36] {Roman} out FCEL +.10
[07:36] {bruce} still long solf vad? looks to be losing strength
[07:37] {Threei} no
[07:41] {dino} winn
[07:41] {bruce} dgit could be pullpack entry here - any read vad?
[07:42] {Threei} tough...
[07:42] {Threei} no pace
[07:42] {bruce} k
[07:42] {Threei} dp, look dcc please
[07:42] {dino} winn s .89
[07:53] {liranm} Vad, when do you expect the market to act normal?
[07:55] {dptl} nuan short?
[07:56] {Chaeron} hi all
[07:56] {BillyD} Hi C:)
[07:57] {dptl} not in short list
[07:59] {Threei} Chaeron :)
[07:59] {Threei} liranm... I don't know what to say
[07:59] {BillyD} c'mon....u know
[07:59] {Threei} this is not something that can be scheduled... take yesterday for instance
[07:59] {Threei} nothing to do, nothing to read,
[07:59] {Threei} then all of sudden flurry of activity, nice readable play comes around
[08:00] {Threei} it's not a matter of predicting this kind of things,
[08:00] {Threei} it's just sit, watch and be ready
[08:01] {dino} vad...always holding out liranm
[08:01] {Threei} lol
[08:02] {liranm} I mean, is it because this is the end of the year?
[08:02] {Threei} holiday trading, yes
[08:03] {liranm} OK
[08:03] {Threei} look at volumes
[08:03] {Threei} way lower than average
[08:03] {Threei} non-committal trading
[08:03] {BillyD} liranm, you have to wrestle with him a bit to get your answer
[08:03] {Threei} sheesh
[08:03] {Threei} lol
[08:04] {BillyD} lol
[08:04] {liranm} :)
[08:04] {Threei} OK, let's try this:
[08:04] {Threei} normal trading is going to be resumed Jan 6, 9:52 EST
[08:04] {Threei} happy now billy?? {G}
[08:04] {BillyD} such extreme
[08:05] {liranm} Great, this is what I wanted to hear
[08:05] {Threei} whew... I am off the hook then :)
[08:05] {bruce} you means theres such a thing as "normal" trading vad?
[08:05] {BillyD} liranm, things should get back to normal after 1st of new yaer, but no gaurantees
[08:05] {Threei} great... not later than 1 min after getting out of one pot of hot water I land in another
[08:06] {bruce} you bet
[08:06] {bruce} no the story about the frog in a pot of hot water vad?
[08:06] {Threei} I do
[08:06] {bruce} lol
[08:07] {Threei} OK bruce, since we are going that deep...
[08:07] {Threei} market has no mind or heart; it is what you make out of it; thus, normal trading is what you consider normal
[08:07] {Threei} there
[08:07] {Threei} you asked for it
[08:08] {BillyD} profound
[08:08] {dino} he's touchy today
[08:08] {Threei} no, I am very Zen
[08:08] {BillyD} ok everyone, get your personal mirror out...lol
[08:09] {BillyD} we are beginning Zen exercise
[08:09] {bruce} shucks - and I thought normal reffered to people that don't inhabit this chat room?
[08:09] {Threei} that too
[08:10] {bruce} k- resuming crazy mode
[08:10] {Threei} SOLF, .50 is closest support... if it's holding above it while NQ retreats, will be a run candidate again on market reversal
[08:10] {dptl} peix?
[08:10] {dino} cov dgit .20, +.30
[08:10] {bruce} csiq short?
[08:11] {Threei} I wouldn't...
[08:11] {Threei} CSIQ is extremely treacherous for shorts
[08:11] {Threei} its rallies are sudden and with no faintest warning
[08:12] {bruce} k- break of .50 looked like candidate for big dump
[08:12] {Threei} dp... on PEIX,
[08:12] {dptl} no
[08:12] {Threei} it's up sharply,
[08:12] {Threei} it probably still has room
[08:12] {Threei} but I would prefer conservative entry on it
[08:13] {Threei} pullback, see if its holding 9
[08:13] {Threei} try to get as close to it as possible with tight stop, be readsy for possible reentry
[08:19] {dino} winn bstop to .71
[08:19] {dino} vsat
[08:23] {dino} vsat s .08
[08:24] {Threei} no new lows CSIQ
[08:25] {Threei} if you got PEIX on pullback, half out here
[08:26] {Threei} should break .30 now
[08:26] {lumdus} 3i, i am temped to keep peix for all day
[08:27] {dino} winn bstop to .51
[08:28] {dino} cov, slippage at .58, +.31
[08:29] {Threei} SOLF .50 break long if stays above .35, half lot
[08:29] {Threei} tried to grab it near 26, missed
[08:29] {magoo} whats SOLF high of day?
[08:30] {Threei} 27.40
[08:30] {magoo} my quotes not showing day highs, u having probs?
[08:30] {BillyD} yes
[08:30] {lumdus} 1/2 out peix .42 tx 3i
[08:30] {Threei} welcome
[08:30] {magoo} genesis just got me up now
[08:33] {Threei} 26 break long for scalp SOLF
[08:35] {dino} cov vsat .80, +.28
[08:35] {dptl} stop on solf?
[08:36] {Threei} under .80
[08:37] {Threei} 1:1
[08:39] {BillyD} out SOLF thx
[08:39] {dino} gj
[08:39] {BillyD} thx
[08:39] {Chaeron} beautiful on SOLF Vad
[08:40] {Threei} 1:2
[08:40] {Threei} welcome
[08:40] {magoo} out here .49 TY
[08:40] {magoo} first trade of day
[08:40] {Threei} :)
[08:40] {Roman} out MGPI +.70
[08:40] {magoo} made me feel better vad anyway
[08:41] {Threei} and notice, even without trouting you
[08:41] {Threei} which is traditional way to make you feel better
[08:41] {magoo} still like the abuse
[08:41] {dino} lol
[08:41] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:41] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:42] {magoo} there is a god:)
[08:43] {Chaeron} I was going to slap you magoo, but I thought it would be more sadistic not to give in to your masochistic ways }:)
[08:43] {BillyD} nah Chaeron, sometimes you have to throw him a bone....he needs a little affection
[08:44] {Chaeron} throw him a puppy
[08:44] {BillyD} nah, slap him silly
[08:44] {Chaeron} :)
[08:45] {dptl} paix again?
[08:46] {Threei} not sure... I prefer pullback entries on it
[08:47] {dptl} true
[08:47] {Roman} MGPI getting ready for another move
[08:47] {Roman} imo
[08:49] {magoo} pretty good pullbk CSIQ vad
[08:49] {magoo} mkt turning upo
[08:54] {bruce} csiq beqakdown coming
[08:55] {magoo} yeah, no like
[08:58] {magoo} bruce, on the beqakdown, u gonna take a reak klot?
[08:58] {dino} wow, go to make lunch, market drops
[08:59] {bruce} lol
[08:59] {Threei} beqakdown?
[08:59] {bruce} not going to trade it mags
[08:59] {dino} spicy bologna and chedder, no carbs
[08:59] {Threei} what kind of anuimal is that
[08:59] {BillyD} processed Vad
[08:59] {bruce} anuimal?
[09:00] {dino} cross between duck and begal
[09:00] {dino} i think
[09:00] {magoo} beagle?
[09:00] {Threei} duck's beak?
[09:00] {dino} asti
[09:00] {dino} to fast
[09:07] {Threei} ASTI had news
[09:07] {Threei} SIGNS COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH HYDRO
[09:07] {Threei} - Agreed to collaborate in the development of building integrated photovoltaic products
[09:07] {Threei} - Note: Hydro currently owns approximately 23% of all issued and outstanding shares in Ascent and has an option to acquire up to 35% of all issued a
[09:08] {bruce} deep pullback peix
[09:08] {dino} ty
[09:10] {bruce} you folks here about the reak klots vadster cooked up over weekend?
[09:10] {dino} fxp s .00
[09:12] {Threei} they are delicious
[09:13] {bruce} lol
[09:13] {esemde} is that BC HYDRO Vad?
[09:13] {bruce} thats what you say
[09:13] {dino} cov .56, +.44
[09:13] {bruce} heard vad had guests over
[09:13] {dino} fxp
[09:13] {bruce} litle ones were saying -
[09:13] {bruce} please uncle daddyd vaddy
[09:13] {bruce} we want more reak klots
[09:13] {Threei} talks about europian presence ese, so I doubt it
[09:13] {bruce} more reak klots!
[09:14] {BillyD} put down the candy bruce
[09:14] {BillyD} too much sugar
[09:14] {bruce} stench was o bad neighbours were gagging
[09:14] {bruce} 3 seniors had to be hospitalized
[09:15] {Threei} billy... he tried to recreate my recipe but misunderstood "weed" part
[09:15] {bruce} neighbourhood temporarily quarantined
[09:15] {BillyD} rofl
[09:16] {bruce} sirens going
[09:16] {bruce} ambulances all over place
[09:16] {bruce} meanwhile
[09:16] {dino} sfly
[09:16] {Threei} see?
[09:16] {Threei} and all I meant was some dandelions
[09:16] {bruce} the vadsters eating his reak klots and downing vodka
[09:17] {bruce} shhesh
[09:17] {bruce} talk avbout community involvment
[09:17] {esemde} double bottom NQ/SP maybe? Hopefully market on the way back up
[09:17] {Threei} feels this way ese
[09:18] {Threei} especially if NQ holding 2025
[09:18] {esemde} good....i'm thinking about adding to my 200shs in ESLR
[09:23] {magoo} whats CSIQ day huigh anyone??
[09:23] {Threei} 28.68
[09:23] {magoo} premkt or after 9:30?
[09:23] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 for not being here
[09:24] {Chaeron} I feel better
[09:24] {Threei} .65 premarket
[09:24] {magoo} knocked him out of room
[09:24] {Threei} and don't even ask russians how " huigh" sounds for their ear
[09:24] {dptl} lol
[09:27] {BillyD} Vad, your quotes show Highs
[09:27] {Threei} no
[09:27] {BillyD} ok
[09:27] {Threei} nor do they show huighs
[09:27] {BillyD} mine either
[09:27] {magoo} me neither
[09:28] {dino} crdn
[09:32] {Chaeron} Ideal Innovations, Inc. (I-3), Oshkosh Truck Corporation (NYSE:OSK), and
[09:32] {Chaeron} Ceradyne, Inc. (NASDAQ:CRDN) announced today that they have been awarded a
[09:32] {Chaeron} delivery order of $18.1 million by the government to produce and deliver
[09:32] {Chaeron} Category 1 (6 man) variants and targets of The Bull(TM) Mine Resistant Ambush
[09:32] {Chaeron} Protected (MRAP) vehicle to the U.S. Marine Corps Joint MRAP program office.
[09:34] {Chaeron} hmmm... that's tiny compared to others in that space
[09:34] {dino} thinking the same
[09:39] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:39] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:40] * LaserDave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[09:40] * LaserDave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:40] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:40] * LaserDave1 slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:40] {esemde} Laser...Mags...feel bad about that for you....but i have to leave you two to your own devices....
[09:40] {esemde} gotta go, see ya'll
[09:41] {Threei} take care ese :)
[09:41] {esemde} see ya Vad
[09:41] {magoo} bye es
[09:47] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:47] {Threei} SOLF starts looking like long on .50 break
[09:47] {Threei} CSIQ stages rally
[09:47] {Threei} never lost that .50 support
[09:48] {BillyD} yeah, couldn't muster up energy to go long
[09:49] {magoo} ok, in solf @ .22 and CSIQ @ .42
[09:49] {magoo} halfs each
[09:50] {Threei} .22?
[09:50] {Threei} faantastic entry
[09:50] {Threei} well done
[09:50] {magoo} agressive entry
[09:53] {BillyD} CSUN shows life
[09:53] {BillyD} it normally loses pulse
[09:53] {Threei} I am scared to tell you what I really think
[09:53] {BillyD} to 12
[09:53] {magoo} who?what?
[09:54] {magoo} waiting .47 and .75
[09:55] {BillyD} Vad CSUN scared?
[09:55] {Threei} all of'em
[09:55] {magoo} out one
[09:55] {Threei} SOLF, CSIQ, CSUN
[09:56] {BillyD} ready to go ballistic
[09:56] {magoo} csiq
[09:56] {Threei} if you promise not to jump on any of them blindly
[09:56] {BillyD} no
[09:56] {dino} leap
[09:56] {Threei} SOLF 28... CSIQ 29-30... CSUN 12.30-12.50...
[09:57] {Threei} pure feeling
[09:57] {BillyD} it seems some pressure is building
[09:59] {bruce} thats not pressure
[09:59] {bruce} it's gas
[09:59] {bruce} from the reak klots
[10:00] {magoo} so we should be looking for pullback entries
[10:00] {magoo} out csiq @ .49
[10:01] {Threei} unfortunately they decided to rely on market today mags
[10:01] {Threei} not to the degree of exact following but still
[10:02] {Threei} that kind of prevents me from more precise reading
[10:02] {magoo} exiting solf here
[10:02] {magoo} .50
[10:03] {magoo} anmazing how it does thatt, my exit triggers spike
[10:04] {dino} leap s .68
[10:07] {Threei} someone always has to open their big mouth
[10:07] {Threei} FED'S LACKER: SAYS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH INFLATION PICTURE WHICH HAS DETERIORATED
[10:07] {Threei} - Weak USD boosting exports
[10:07] {Threei} - Says turmoil could Recur on new information
[10:07] {Threei} - Sees November PCE inflation data 'even worse', Fed must keep overall inflation down, not just core
[10:09] {Threei} if he suggests to regulate prime rate using CPI with no exclusion of food/energy... I guess he is to show us what real turmoil is
[10:09] {Threei} if SOLF cxan eat through this .75 - .80 area, my estimation of upside may be even too conservative
[10:10] {Threei} {SOLF} of course I can
[10:10] {magoo} like butter
[10:12] {dptl} peix?
[10:13] {dino} leap stop to b/e
[10:14] {dino} to .42
[10:14] {dino} cov .35, +.33
[10:15] {Threei} don't know about PEIX
[10:16] {Threei} this one feels done for now
[10:16] {dptl} i see
[10:17] {magoo} got news for ya boss..u don't really know csiq or solf either...anything can happenm
[10:18] {bruce} is this long trigger in solf vad?
[10:18] {Threei} did I say "know'?
[10:19] {BillyD} ROFL
[10:19] {Threei} see above bruce... I don't have a read on them in usual sense of the word
[10:19] {BillyD} Vad, see what happens when you share your "feeling"...lol
[10:20] {bruce} k- sounded like you liked them long -
[10:20] {Threei} no kidding... I better shut up
[10:22] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:26] {bruce} knot just took off
[10:26] {dino} knot
[10:33] {BillyD} just didn't trust CSUN enough to take it long
[10:33] {bruce} eqix dino
[10:35] {dino} dk, need dow help
[10:35] {bruce} "trust" is a word I dont reserve for any stocks billy
[10:37] {BillyD} yeah, none of them get 100%
[10:37] {bruce} feels like market drop coming to me vad
[10:38] {dino} leap again
[10:38] {magoo} rally
[10:38] {dino} feeling rally here
[10:40] {bruce} could be lads
[10:41] {bruce} I was wrong once
[10:42] {Threei} once? you are my hero
[10:42] {dino} lol
[10:42] {magoo} really
[10:42] {dino} more like limbo
[10:42] {dino} -9 to -4
[10:44] {magoo} fastening my seatbelt here
[10:44] {magoo} helmet on
[10:44] {magoo} in solf now .73
[10:44] {magoo} rd two
[10:45] {magoo} 10k shares..lets see.daytrade call oif 14.3 million tomorrow
[10:45] {lumdus} 14.3 milliong dollars.. man, you trade
[10:46] {dino} brubruce wins
[10:46] {magoo} jesus..looked like blast off and QQQQ crashes
[10:47] {Threei} kid with crayon is out in force
[10:48] {BillyD} he needs to go on time out
[10:52] {dino} 200 point range dow days are the new normal
[10:52] {magoo} vad, break out the RALLY MONKEY for the newbies
[10:52] {lumdus} 3i, biib short 56.04
[10:52] {lumdus} valid setup to break ?
[10:53] {Threei} sorry, lost me
[10:53] {Threei} short on breakout?
[10:54] {lumdus} short on break of 56.00 waited for pop then shorted .
[10:55] {magoo} CSIQ a good long entry here imho..risky
[10:55] {magoo} .38
[10:55] {magoo} WOW
[10:55] {Threei} I don't know what setup that is... not one of mine
[10:55] {magoo} as i typed
[10:55] {magoo} it was .38
[10:56] {Threei} and lum... if you want timely answer, please be more clear in shaping up the questikon, that was highly confusing
[10:56] {lumdus} 3i, ok thank you.
[10:57] {bruce} b est to type them just slightly confusing lum
[10:57] {Threei} don't forget, I get confused rather easily :)
[10:57] {magoo} MONKEY VAD...RALLY
[10:57] {BillyD} what woke CSUN up
[10:58] {Threei} my prophecy
[10:59] {Threei} [12:56] {Threei} }snip{ CSUN 12.30-12.50
[10:59] {BillyD} lol
[10:59] {BillyD} u take it
[11:00] {dino} sgr l .99
[11:00] {magoo} i thought vad meant 'he could see the sun at 12:30 noonisah"
[11:03] {dino} vad is the sun
[11:04] {dino} they call him luna
[11:04] {magoo} hes my whole world
[11:04] {dino} -3 rally
[11:05] {bruce} lol mags
[11:05] {bruce} QUIT THAT mags
[11:05] {bruce} it'll go to his head
[11:07] {bruce} csun is now done like dinner
[11:08] {dino} eqix would've worked bruce, nice spot, i was waiting at 95
[11:08] {magoo} 13:55] {magoo} CSIQ a good long entry here imho..risky
[11:08] {magoo} [13:55] {magoo} .38
[11:08] {magoo} [13:55] {magoo} WOW
[11:10] {bruce} k dino
[11:12] {Threei} [14:07] {bruce} csun is now done like dinner {---- {CSUN} I beg to differ, unless you like your dinner terribly undercooked
[11:13] {dino} grren
[11:13] {lumdus} green
[11:14] {dino} thats what i was tryiong to say
[11:14] {Threei} magoo's typing rubs off of you dino
[11:14] {dptl} nvda?
[11:14] {dino} yeah, unfortunately
[11:15] {Threei} if NQ continues, so will NVDA dp... I just have no anything to read NQ today
[11:15] {magoo} vad, what u in with all those calls??
[11:15] {Threei} I take the Fifth magoo
[11:16] {magoo} u gonna take "a fist" if u do not speak
[11:17] {Threei} I am willing to suffer for freedom of speech
[11:17] {Threei} or silence
[11:20] {dino} out sgr .24, +.25
[11:21] {bruce} hmmm- you were saying about csun vadster?
[11:22] {lumdus} i guess we going sideways for now .
[11:22] {Threei} you know what comeback is going to be right? :)
[11:22] * magoo slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[11:23] {dino} fxp s .75
[11:23] {bruce} feels good mags
[11:24] {bruce} one last pathetic pop then dive dive dive for csun
[11:24] {BillyD} SOLF next maybe
[11:25] {lumdus} nvda starting to working a little
[11:28] {dino} cov fxp .51, +.24
[11:29] {dino} taking a break, way over
[11:31] {lumdus} dino, no breaks, finally market start ing to wakeup
[11:31] {lumdus} hmm, maybe not really
[11:34] {dino} lol
[11:35] {dino} getting a lift in
[11:37] {dino} leap strange today
[11:44] {dino} ulbi
[11:45] {dptl} out half nvda +'10
[11:46] {magoo} whats the room mentor up too?
[11:47] {lumdus} getting ready to slap somone with a large trout.. don't you know he likes to do that
[11:50] {Threei} and it's already unholstered
[11:50] {Threei} SOLF new highs... come on baby, you have 28 to make
[11:51] {Threei} and by the way bruce... on behalf of CSUN:
[11:51] * Threei slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[11:52] {hawkfan4} really nice calls on the solars vad, unreal, thanks!
[11:52] {Threei} NQ takes 2040, SOLF should make .50
[11:52] {Threei} there
[11:52] {Threei} welcome hawk
[11:53] {Threei} CSIQ lags a bit still
[11:54] {bruce} csun's a lame duck vadster
[11:55] {Threei} true... still 11 cents short of my target...
[11:56] {dptl} csun.10?
[11:57] {Threei} I don't know what to say dp... there are no tehnicals to any of them
[11:57] {Threei} pure feel
[11:57] {dptl} ok ty
[11:58] {dino} leap s .00
[11:59] {dino} qcco
[12:02] {dino} leap bstop is hod
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:07] {Threei} come on NQ, break 2040 and put shorts out of their misery
[12:11] {dino} leap stoped -.40
[12:13] {dino} good thing i had a stop in, sheesh
[12:14] {Threei} time to roll futs btw... almost forgot... as always
[12:14] {Threei} NQ8H new symbol
[12:16] {bruce} that csun is one sick puppy
[12:16] {bruce} call the medics for life support
[12:17] {Threei} I am too busy getting kicking and pushing SOLF to 28 bruce... when done, will get to both you and CSUN {G}
[12:17] {bruce} have to head out and gone for next few days
[12:17] {bruce} keep the vadster in line during my absense
[12:18] {bruce} merry christmas everyone
[12:18] {Threei} nonsense
[12:18] {Threei} noone ever managed to do that
[12:18] {Chaeron} bye Bruce... best to you always
[12:18] * BillyD slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:18] {Threei} Merry Christmas bruce
[12:18] {bruce} thanks c - samne to you and all
[12:18] {BillyD} cya bruce :)
[12:18] {Chaeron} frpt
[12:18] {magoo} bye bruce
[12:18] {dino} have a great holiday bruce
[12:28] {dino} dxd l .04
[12:32] {BillyD} dino, you just looking for DXD to trend up....is this reason for the trade?
[12:39] {dino} fxp s .75
[12:44] {dino} out dxd -.10
[12:48] {dino} sorry bd, cut the wrong one
[12:48] {dino} dxd is ultrashort fund dow
[12:49] {dino} thought we were going down so go long'
[12:49] {BillyD} ok..was curious
[12:49] {BillyD} kind of like QID on Naz
[12:49] {dino} fxp stopped . thats all. good day, starting to miss
[12:49] {dino} yes bd
[12:49] {BillyD} thx
[12:50] {dino} fxp is ultrashort china fund, follows bidu and dow
[12:52] {dino} i.e dow/bidu up, fxp down, its inverse
[12:53] {Threei} Ok guys, thank you all
[12:53] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[12:53] {magoo} ty
[12:53] {BillyD} ty
[13:06] {dino} gn all
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007
Tuesday, December 18, 2007
December 18, 2007
Session Start: Tue Dec 18 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Tue Dec 18 00:00:00 2007
[05:16] {Threei} 07:30am [EPIX] Reports Compelling Clinical Results for PRX-03140 in Alzheimer's Disease; Statistically Significant Improvement in Cognitive Function Achieved Within Two Weeks
[05:17] {Threei} IMNY KODAK IMPLEMENTS I-MANY'S CONTRACT MANAGEMENT SOLUTION
[05:17] {Threei} - {EK}
[05:18] {BillyD} mornig Vad
[05:18] {Threei} 08:00am [IRBT] Wins $286M US Army contract
[05:18] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:20] {BillyD} see anything on solars.....ESLR a bit of a gap
[05:22] {Threei} Jaso SIGNS NEW WAFER SUPPLY AGREEMENT WITH RENESOLA
[05:22] {Threei} 01:45am [ESLR] UBS Initiates ESLR with Buy, price target: $20.00
[05:22] {BillyD} amazing...the mere mention of anything
[05:22] {BillyD} ah
[05:23] {Threei} that's all I see on solars
[05:23] {BillyD} ty
[05:24] {Threei} Parents should pay climate change tax on extra kids: expert
[05:24] {Threei} http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071210/od_afp/australiaclimatewarmingoffbeat_071210210151;_ylt=A9G_R3Xdu2dHyVMBTwCgOrgF
[05:25] {Threei} OK, craze seems to be coming to the stage where it should exhaust itself and die off
[05:26] {BillyD} the sterilsation a bit extreme
[05:26] {Threei} when it becomes that ridiculous, it's not unlike euphoria stage in the charts
[05:26] {BillyD} yes
[05:30] {Threei} NOV HOUSING STARTS: 1.187M V 1.176ME; BUILDING PERMITS: 1.152M V 1.150ME
[05:31] {BillyD} good news
[05:32] {Threei} and thankfully, Canada NOV LEADING INDICATOR M/M: 0.0% V 0.1%E
[05:32] {Threei} CAD is dropping fast
[05:33] {BillyD} CAD stand for
[05:33] {BillyD} ?
[05:33] {Threei} hope it continues, I just got my Nov earnings in USD and hated to see CAD strengthening over last several days before I could convert them
[05:34] {Threei} canadian dollar
[05:34] {BillyD} I see
[05:36] {BillyD} 1 USD is worth what in Canada
[05:37] {magoo} morning RT'
[05:38] {BillyD} magoo, u trading today
[05:38] {Threei} right now USD/CAD = 1.0071
[05:38] {Threei} magoo :)
[05:38] {Threei} a few years ago it was about 1.6
[05:39] {BillyD} so Vad, your USD is worth less thatn Canadin right now
[05:39] {Threei} roughly at par
[05:39] {BillyD} ok
[05:39] {Threei} consider bank spread vs actual trading price
[05:39] {BillyD} at 1.6 was worth way less right?
[05:39] {Threei} USD was much higher
[05:40] {BillyD} sorry, right
[05:40] {Threei} which gave my much more CAD for it
[05:40] {Threei} which in turn used to make me much happier
[05:40] {Threei} :)
[05:40] {magoo} yes billy
[05:41] {magoo} i remember vad hgoing on my snomo triups and at border exchanging 1k US for roughly 1600 canadian
[05:41] {Threei} yeah
[05:41] {Threei} and not it's about parity
[05:42] {Threei} not = now
[05:45] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:49] {cosmo} IRBT
[05:49] {cosmo} IRobot Gets $286M Army Contract
[05:49] {cosmo} AP (Tue 8:28am)
[05:50] {cosmo} 20.50 pre mkt high ...so far
[05:52] {Threei} TREASURY SEC PAULSON: GOAL IS TO PREVENT HOUSING 'MARKET FAILURE' - INTERVIEW COMMENTS
[05:53] {cosmo} EPIX getting active ... can't remember why tho....
[05:54] {Threei} [08:16] {Threei} 07:30am [EPIX] Reports Compelling Clinical Results for PRX-03140 in Alzheimer's Disease; Statistically Significant Improvement in Cognitive Function Achieved Within Two Weeks
[05:54] {Threei} CHINA took serious hit
[05:54] {cosmo} why wait 2 weeks?
[05:55] {cosmo} ... no matter
[06:04] {Threei} INSM
[06:04] {Threei} RECEIVES FDA ORPHAN DRUG DESIGNATION FOR IPLEX IN THE TREATMENT OF MYOTONIC MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY- Insmed is currently conducting a 24-week Phase III enabling trial for IPLEX(TM) in MMD, and recently was awarded a grant of approximately $2.1 million from the Muscular Dystrophy Association (MDA), which is expected to cover a substantial portion of the external costs associated with the trial.
[06:04] {Threei} cheapie and toughie... posting it just because it went over big resistance, so who knows, maybe picks up interest
[06:11] {dptl} good morning all
[06:12] {dino} gm all
[06:12] {magoo} missed EPIX vad
[06:12] {magoo} nice move
[06:12] {Threei} dp, dino :)
[06:12] {esemde} good morning as well.....
[06:13] {Threei} ese :)
[06:13] {esemde} soory for not saying goodbye yesterday i departed abruptly....the TD bank presented my music program witha $2000 check and i had to be there by 8:30
[06:14] {dino} nice
[06:14] {magoo} do not let it happen again lol
[06:15] {esemde} will do mags
[06:15] {Threei} cool beans, ese :)
[06:15] {esemde} they have alot of money to give....A LOT.....could have spared a couple of thou more it think
[06:16] {magoo} mkts open 24th and 26th anyone? i am trying to plan my computer crashes around this
[06:16] {Threei} lol
[06:21] {cosmo} epix
[06:21] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:22] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:23] {dptl} 24th half day i think
[06:24] {BillyD} that would be my guess dp
[06:27] {magoo} how about 26th?
[06:28] {cosmo} IRBT: 20.50 pre mkt high
[06:28] {esemde} anyone following ESLR
[06:28] {magoo} watching EPIX
[06:29] {cosmo} epix should hold 4.55
[06:29] {cosmo} needs to hold 4.50
[06:29] {cosmo} imho
[06:32] {Threei} IRBT sizeable pullback
[06:33] {BillyD} spread on it yuk
[06:33] {BillyD} better now
[06:33] {Threei} yeah
[06:34] {Roman} KONG
[06:34] {Roman} long setup
[06:34] {magoo} id like see more pull on it
[06:34] {esemde} bstop ESLR .56
[06:35] {magoo} epix has the feel vad
[06:37] {magoo} need it to breathe hold 5 and go
[06:38] {esemde} ESLR invalidated
[06:39] {magoo} vad, i do not have the naz along side my dow on bottom, do u?
[06:39] {magoo} laser question
[06:39] {Threei} no, something is wrong with COMPX
[06:40] {BillyD} and NDX as well
[06:40] {magoo} ok, thought it was my side
[06:40] {Threei} let's nag laserdave qwhen he is in
[06:40] {magoo} ty
[06:40] {magoo} i know, lets smack him
[06:41] {Threei} nice pullback EPIX
[06:41] {Threei} not sure it's entry level yet
[06:41] {magoo} 4.50 area better
[06:41] {Threei} I'd feel way better around 4.5
[06:41] {magoo} qqqq tanking
[06:41] {Threei} hmmm
[06:41] {Threei} mags... get out of my head
[06:42] {BillyD} BRCM weak yesterday Vad
[06:42] {Threei} and take this camera off my shoulder
[06:42] {magoo} rats..ooooo..kkkkkkkkkk
[06:42] {Threei} red today while NQ is green too
[06:43] {Threei} .60 is resisatnce
[06:43] {Threei} yesterday's close is .63
[06:43] {Threei} I'd think, short with .65 stop
[06:43] {Threei} aggressive
[06:43] {Threei} NQ downturn is a signal for entry
[06:43] {BillyD} ok
[06:43] {dino} star
[06:44] {Threei} keep finger on a trigger but don't jump in into buying
[06:45] {magoo} aapl pulls hard
[06:45] {Threei} now seems fine
[06:45] {Threei} nope went over .65
[06:46] {Threei} hard to nail entry here, not sure
[06:46] {magoo} man..epix is tempting..but
[06:47] {magoo} don't know if its following q
[06:47] {Threei} nah
[06:47] {esemde} long EMKR pullback .85
[06:47] {Threei} fresh news stock
[06:48] {magoo} its avai short..but we missed a point short already
[06:48] {magoo} avail
[06:50] {Threei} half lot long EPIX .65, stop .49
[06:50] {Threei} if loses .50 before triggering, back off
[06:51] {magoo} in
[06:51] {dptl} in.68
[06:53] {Threei} stopped
[06:53] {dptl} stopped
[06:53] {BillyD} yeah
[06:54] {magoo} out
[06:57] {dino} star l .00
[06:58] {esemde} out EMKR. .03 =+.17
[06:59] {esemde} opps make that +.12
[07:00] {dino} gj
[07:01] {BillyD} EPIX CC at 10:30 ET this morning
[07:03] {dino} star stopped -.40
[07:04] {esemde} l ESLR 15 54
[07:04] {dino} fxp l .55
[07:05] {BillyD} no clarity here
[07:05] {Threei} nope
[07:06] {Threei} nothing looks compelling
[07:06] {Threei} pace is very low everywhere
[07:07] {BillyD} everything jumps up and down
[07:07] {dino} out fxp .37, +.82
[07:07] {magoo} nice dino
[07:07] {bruce} very nice dino
[07:08] {Threei} huh?
[07:08] {Threei} JASO
[07:08] {Threei} PRICE TARGET RAISED TO 488 FROM $65 AT CIBC
[07:08] {dino} ty, watch bidu, for indication on it
[07:08] {esemde} nice one dino
[07:08] {esemde} beats my ESLR at the moment
[07:08] {Threei} ok, correction
[07:08] {Threei} PRICE TARGET RAISED AT CIBC TO $88 FROM $65
[07:08] {BillyD} NVDA holds well
[07:10] {dino} l fxp .50
[07:11] {dino} bidu neg.
[07:12] {dino} out fxp .00, +.50
[07:13] {BillyD} wtg dino
[07:13] {dino} ty
[07:17] {BillyD} no bounce
[07:17] {Threei} NVDA worth a try long here
[07:17] {Threei} .75 stop
[07:18] {Threei} as close to .80 as you can get
[07:18] {BillyD} in .89
[07:18] {BillyD} went in when you said here
[07:18] {Threei} yup
[07:19] {dptl} in.88
[07:19] {Threei} it often makes little up/down jiggles
[07:19] {Threei} sometimes help with better entry but not overly important
[07:19] {BillyD} ok, wanted to make sure I followed your instructions clearly :)
[07:19] {Threei} since same thing happens on exits
[07:20] {Threei} take scalp as you see fit guys
[07:20] {Threei} market is very uncertain
[07:21] {Threei} stop to .79 in any case
[07:22] {BillyD} out most here
[07:22] {Threei} offering .01
[07:22] {dptl} out+.12ty
[07:22] {Threei} out
[07:22] {BillyD} out rst ty
[07:22] {magoo} out .01 TY VAD
[07:22] {Threei} welcome
[07:23] {Threei} wierd feeling, almost like we traded noise, not real move
[07:23] {Threei} but whatever
[07:23] {BillyD} lol
[07:24] {Threei} btw,
[07:24] {Threei} while it hesitated under 34
[07:25] {Threei} did you notice what I meant about those little jiggles?
[07:25] {BillyD} yes
[07:25] {Threei} .93 - .98
[07:25] {Threei} if market is uncertain, no real strong jump while you are looking for entry
[07:25] {Threei} try to exploit those to get better entry point
[07:25] {magoo} well, my camera and i thought u meant your stomach jiggles
[07:26] {BillyD} you mean .83-.88
[07:26] {Threei} what are you talking about my stone-firm 6 pack never jiggles
[07:26] {Threei} that too
[07:26] {Threei} did same thing when hesitated in 90s
[07:27] {Threei} lol NVDA
[07:27] {Threei} whoever said to exit must be drugged through ther streets hooked up by upper lip to the truck
[07:27] {BillyD} these mkt moves makes it tougher
[07:27] {BillyD} never know which is real one
[07:27] {Threei} look at NQ
[07:28] {Threei} never moved for real
[07:28] {Threei} no way I could read this NVDA move, no leading indicator
[07:28] {Threei} in fact, it looks like NVDA led
[07:28] {BillyD} all I have is QQQQ and we sold at stall, could have went either way
[07:28] {Threei} NQ plays catch up
[07:28] {magoo} wonder if..watchinhg..see if conf call pops EPIX
[07:29] {bruce} wasn't that basis for nvda call vade - you thgought nq going long?
[07:29] {Threei} yes, and NVDA forming bottom close enough for my comfort and far enough from the high
[07:29] {bruce} k
[07:30] {Threei} but if you compare bounces,
[07:30] {bruce} I had no read on it either way - thought it was follower play
[07:30] {Threei} you'll see that NVDA not only moved much farther than NQ did, that alone would be fine as relative strength
[07:30] {Threei} but it moved first
[07:31] {Threei} they worked in a good synch at the beginning of the bounce, NQ led,
[07:31] {Threei} served as help for our entry
[07:31] {BillyD} it is right in step w/QQQQ
[07:31] {Threei} then NVDA proceeded higher while NQ heistated
[07:31] {bruce} k
[07:32] {Threei} so yes, it was a follower play
[07:32] {Threei} it just un-synched along the way leading us to take profit sooner than we could
[07:35] {dino} out fxp +.25, too fast
[07:37] {bruce} you should marry that stock dino
[07:37] {bruce} being good to you
[07:37] {Threei} and would be decent thing to do after what you did to it
[07:37] {BillyD} BRCM not following much
[07:38] {BillyD} any read Vad
[07:38] {bruce} lol vad
[07:38] {Threei} can't get any vibe from it billy
[07:38] {BillyD} ty
[07:39] {Threei} it's kind of on its own
[07:39] {BillyD} agree
[07:39] {Threei} formed consolidation under .80, looked good for a break,
[07:39] {Threei} now dropped off it
[07:39] {BillyD} total guessing game
[07:40] {Threei} not BRCM nor NVDA show clean following
[07:40] {Threei} which is actually was what I said yesterday,
[07:40] {Threei} normal pattern are not of much use in holiday trading
[07:40] {BillyD} yes
[07:41] {Threei} hunt and peck
[07:41] {Threei} if we are lucky we will get some momos here and there
[07:41] {Threei} if not, scalps only on the most compelling and least risky setups
[07:41] {bruce} csun
[07:43] {bruce} lets do the oppostie of what vads cat does
[07:43] {Threei} then do not eat rose
[07:44] {bruce} lol
[07:45] {Threei} and umm... if I may ask... do not jump on my desk and behind monitors, dol not discinnect power cords from them and sound cord from speakers
[07:45] {Threei} thank you
[07:46] {dino} qid l .80, stop .45
[07:46] {BillyD} maybe you need to get the cat it's own trading PC and would leave yours alone
[07:47] {Threei} it'll have to prove to me it can trade profitably with paper account first
[07:47] {bruce} cat learned all that from magoo
[07:50] {dino} qid stopped .69 -.11
[07:50] {bruce} ddup
[07:51] {dino} lifc l .98
[07:54] {dino} ehth giving yesterday back
[08:01] {dino} ehth l .15, stop .65
[08:03] {Threei} NVDA feels like breakout now
[08:03] {Threei} .26 long
[08:04] {magoo} rd twio epix also..risky
[08:04] {dino} make ehlth stop .78
[08:04] {dino} not thrilled
[08:05] {magoo} eats 4.50, long trigg epix
[08:07] {Threei} stop .14 NVDA
[08:07] {Threei} if loses .15, invalidated
[08:08] {dino} ehth stopp -.27
[08:08] {dino} -.37
[08:10] {esemde} welll ...the stop on my measly 300 lot hasn't been hit yet but i have to go....see you all tomorrow.
[08:10] {Threei} take care ese
[08:10] {esemde} see ya VAD
[08:10] {bruce} bye ese
[08:10] {esemde} bruce
[08:10] {magoo} bye es
[08:10] {bruce} no conviction in market vad - chop city
[08:11] {Threei} I will be the last person to argue against it bruce
[08:11] {Threei} not often you see me that conservative
[08:12] {magoo} E{PIX
[08:17] {dino} lifc stopped -.45
[08:20] {dptl} did you get epix.Magoo?
[08:22] {magoo} yhes
[08:22] {dptl} okhey
[08:22] {magoo} lay out .64 for scalp
[08:22] {dptl} i see
[08:23] {magoo} stop .39
[08:28] {dino} dxd l .30. stop .98
[08:30] {BillyD} EPIX just not nice today
[08:30] {BillyD} not in, but observation
[08:30] {magoo} should have worked, no power
[08:30] {Threei} {EPIX} ah leave me alone, I am old and tired
[08:31] {BillyD} BRCM laughs at me....had it short at .39 took amazing dime on it
[08:31] {bruce} epix - let me kick your ass by pretending to go long
[08:36] {bruce} any read brcm vad - still looks weak
[08:37] {Threei} just can't get anything to use as a leader for it
[08:37] {Threei} and not inclined to trade this stock on its own merits
[08:38] {bruce} k
[08:39] {bruce} think I'll just sit on mouse
[08:40] {bruce} keep it warm and protected from marauding cats
[08:43] {Threei} good idea
[08:44] {bruce} double bottom in csun now
[08:45] {dino} hmsy s .70
[08:52] {dino} out dxd .60, +.30
[08:54] {dino} hmsy bstop to .52
[08:56] {bruce} watching q's drop
[08:56] {bruce} nvda short vad?
[08:58] {Threei} I don't have read on it
[08:58] {Threei} look at BRCM
[08:58] {Threei} no following at all
[08:58] {Threei} NVDA, a bit better
[08:58] {bruce} yes - watching it too - holding despite downtick
[08:58] {Threei} but far from normal clean following
[08:58] {bruce} brcm has already done daily range though
[09:02] {BillyD} BRCM has a stubborn buyer here
[09:02] {BillyD} not sure who's gonna win though
[09:03] {bruce} I like brcm pattern short billy - but not thrilled with volume in it
[09:06] {Threei} I don't know about short here bruce
[09:06] {dino} artc l .45
[09:06] {Threei} if it consolidated here while NQ went up, sure, that would be classic short pattern
[09:06] {Threei} but it holds support while NQ drops
[09:06] {bruce} me either vad - thinking we may be seeing bounce coming
[09:07] {dino} feeling same
[09:07] {bruce} kong read vad?
[09:07] {dino} hmsy bstop to .40
[09:08] {dino} cov hmsy .40, +.30
[09:08] {Threei} KONG is just a former momo that lost momo
[09:08] {Threei} when momo returns it will be a momo player againb
[09:08] {bruce} k
[09:09] {bruce} got it
[09:09] {Threei} but as of no no momo insight, so no momo play
[09:09] {bruce} no mo momo
[09:09] {Threei} right... that's what I was trying to say :)
[09:09] {bruce} lol
[09:13] {bruce} pathetic bouce in q's
[09:13] {bruce} another wave of selling coming
[09:14] {dptl} how's epix short here?
[09:16] {Threei} a bit oo far down from its highs...
[09:16] {dino} tbsi l .70, stop lod
[09:17] {BillyD} it seems trading behaiors way out of norms
[09:18] {Threei} very much so
[09:18] {dino} layn l .99
[09:18] {Threei} with holidays you never know
[09:18] {dino} stop lod
[09:18] {Threei} sometimes it's unbelievably greattrading time
[09:18] {BillyD} that was what I had hoped for
[09:18] {Threei} sometimes totally lucklustre
[09:18] {dino} lackluster this year, last year was great
[09:18] {Threei} umm... spell it right to get what I mean
[09:19] {Threei} ty dino
[09:19] {dino} lol, didn't see that
[09:19] {Threei} and worst thing is, it can change in a blink of eye
[09:19] {dino} but understood
[09:20] {Threei} if not that we cxould just leave till new year'
[09:20] {Threei} but would be a shame to do that and then see market posted some spectacular trading candidates
[09:20] {Threei} thanksgiving day of I think 1999
[09:21] {BillyD} always that "gonna miss something"
[09:21] {Threei} absolutely incredibly unbeliervable trading day
[09:21] {Threei} everyone was like, "uh, pre-holiday day, nothing will happen, let's look what's out there in the morning, and leave"
[09:22] {Threei} huge rally, stocks were just doubling and tripling
[09:23] {Threei} not to such extend but did happen several time since then on such days
[09:29] {dino} artc stop to b/e
[09:32] {BillyD} days like today tend to keep you from taking trades you see and feel
[09:32] {BillyD} then you regret it not following your gut
[09:32] {Threei} I always follow my gut...
[09:33] {BillyD} cuases you to think too much
[09:33] {Threei} it's located right in front of me... unless I walk backwards, I have no choice but follow it
[09:33] {BillyD} yeah, to the refrigerator
[09:33] {BillyD} no , it leads
[09:34] {BillyD} have already eaten twice here w/ dessert
[09:42] {dino} artc stopped b/e
[09:46] {dino} layn stop to .42
[09:48] {dino} tbsi stop to .97
[09:48] {dino} out tbsi +.27
[09:56] {dino} cov layn .44, +.45
[10:02] {Threei} EPIX bounce time nears
[10:03] {BillyD} why you say that?
[10:03] {Threei} feels like selling exhausts itself
[10:03] {BillyD} ok
[10:05] {BillyD} trigger?
[10:06] {Threei} good question
[10:07] {dino} l idxx .05, stop lod
[10:08] {Threei} hopefully, EPIX pulls back one more time
[10:08] {Threei} so we get tgrigger and stop
[10:08] {dino} artc l .30, stop .98
[10:10] {Threei} unltimate in social engineering idiocy
[10:10] {Threei} http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/16/ncar116.xml
[10:12] {Threei} 3.88 EPIX long if no pullback anymore, 3.77 stop
[10:14] {dptl} in.89
[10:15] {dino} brb
[10:19] {dptl} nvda?
[10:19] {Threei} EPIX water torture is not enough for you?
[10:19] {Threei} you want two of them?
[10:19] {dptl} lol
[10:23] {bruce} moving epix stop to .89
[10:26] {dptl} out flat
[10:26] {bruce} out +2c for me
[10:27] {bruce} font like to let anyh profit slip away on days like this
[10:27] {dptl} and its gonna go now..lol
[10:29] {dino} out artc .63, +.33
[10:29] {BillyD} making it look easy dino
[10:30] {dino} lol bd, but easier than yesterday
[10:31] {dino} now give idxx an up-kick
[10:31] {Threei} here comes EPIX
[10:31] {dptl} i knew it
[10:31] {BillyD} sold some here
[10:35] {BillyD} and here .05
[10:38] {BillyD} out rest thx Vad
[10:38] {Threei} welcome
[10:44] {dino} idxx stop to .39
[10:45] {dino} gj bd
[10:45] {BillyD} ty dino
[10:46] {dino} to .47 stingy
[10:47] {Threei} EMKR half lor .51 long
[10:47] {dino} to .60
[10:47] {liranm} stop?
[10:47] {Threei} .39
[10:48] {dptl} in.54
[10:49] {dino} to .74
[10:50] {dino} to .85
[10:51] {dino} nfbk
[10:52] {dptl} stopped
[10:57] {dino} to .95 idxx
[11:02] {dptl} .
[11:02] {dino} out idxx .94, +.89
[11:03] {dino} taking a break
[11:06] {BillyD} is mkt trying to come out of death coma
[11:09] {BillyD} and handing out "dunce" hats everywhere
[11:09] {Threei} ENER
[11:11] {Threei} 32 break, half lot if stays above .90
[11:14] {dino} syna l .50
[11:15] {Threei} valid again
[11:15] {BillyD} ener still looks valid
[11:18] {Threei} looks like have to pay it with .85 stop
[11:18] {Threei} adjust shares accordingly
[11:21] {BillyD} passing on it here
[11:21] {Threei} I guess
[11:22] {dptl} epix of .30?
[11:22] {Threei} tough call
[11:22] {Threei} chart looks fine but so fasr from low...
[11:23] {Threei} nailed the bottom almost exactly on it
[11:23] {dptl} with .15 stop?
[11:23] {Threei} well... chart wise it's valid
[11:24] {dptl} ener not valid anymore ?
[11:25] {dino} out syna .84, +.34
[11:25] {Threei} very risky
[11:25] {Threei} it canm work still but too jerky
[11:25] {dptl} i see
[11:25] {BillyD} ESLR
[11:30] {Threei} took 16 cents on ENER
[11:31] {Threei} I guess I am too bored
[11:31] {Threei} on a normal day I wouldn't go for it
[11:31] {BillyD} more I saw it, the more I was like no
[11:32] {Threei} CSIQ
[11:32] {Threei} what the?
[11:35] {Threei} allow me reiterate: what the...?
[11:36] {BillyD} crazy
[11:36] {Threei} OK, who's next
[11:36] {Threei} CSUN?
[11:36] {Threei} still in red
[11:37] {Threei} and no real activity
[11:37] {BillyD} seems like everything moves with every tick of QQQQ
[11:37] {BillyD} at leats here
[11:37] {BillyD} least
[11:38] {dino} syna l; .60
[11:46] {dino} out syna .75, +.15
[11:53] {dino} back in 15
[11:53] {Threei} CSIQ feels like another run in the making
[11:58] {Threei} small shares if 26 is taken again
[12:01] {Threei} out half .35
[12:02] {Threei} out in full
[12:02] {Threei} .70
[12:02] {BillyD} nic eone
[12:02] {Threei} sheesh... all day wait for a big play
[12:02] {Threei} anyone did it?
[12:03] {BillyD} not here
[12:03] {dptl} too fast
[12:06] {magoo} i did vad
[12:06] {magoo} to fast to type TY
[12:06] {Threei} wtg mags
[12:06] {Threei} told you guys, things can change on a dime
[12:06] {Threei} gotta be alert
[12:07] {BillyD} lol
[12:13] {dino} syna l .25
[12:22] {dino} out syna .60, +.35
[12:23] {dino} too soon
[12:23] {dino} hmsy pin 30
[12:24] {Threei} EMKR fooled us good
[12:24] {BillyD} yes
[12:24] {dptl} have a good evening all see ya tomorrow
[12:24] {BillyD} bye dp
[12:25] {Threei} take care dp
[12:25] {BillyD} that EPIX spikes up and down w/out real signsal
[12:26] {Threei} yeah, I don't it... that entry off the bottom was the only one where I could get a feel for it
[12:27] {BillyD} I took again on the PB at .96 and sold for measley scalp...and it goes over .20
[12:34] {dino} syna parial fill l .50
[12:35] {Threei} CSUN wakes up
[12:35] {BillyD} tough trader with no juice
[12:36] {BillyD} tempting
[12:39] {Threei} look at CPST range today
[12:39] {dino} out syna .85, +.35
[12:39] {BillyD} perfect
[12:39] {Threei} dino is killing them today
[12:40] {dino} just lucky, f'd up yeterday, so back to even for week
[12:40] {Threei} so week starts tomorrow
[12:40] {dino} "indeed"
[12:41] {dino} hmsy gonna hold all this
[12:41] {magoo} not for me..prolly have a 2 million daytrade call
[12:41] {Threei} rofl
[12:41] {dino} ooomannnnnn
[12:41] {BillyD} hope not
[12:42] {magoo} dave here??
[12:42] {dino} one more, just went 10/11
[12:42] {magoo} really need to speak with him
[12:42] {Threei} yes magoo, he is ready just for you to be trouted
[12:42] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:42] {Threei} hmmm... took you long time
[12:43] {Threei} you used to be more truot-willing
[12:43] {dino} hmsy s .60, stop .77
[12:44] {dino} too soon
[12:45] {dino} stopped -.22 slippage
[13:00] {Threei} thank you all
[13:00] {Threei} hacve a good evening, see you tomorrow
[13:01] {hawkfan4} thx vad
[13:03] {magoo} laser dave dcc
[13:06] {magoo} vad, u here??
[14:08] {Threei} hey
[14:08] {Threei} what's up magoo?
[14:11] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[14:14] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:15] {magoo} i spoke cwith dave on phone tonite
[14:15] {Threei} OK... I seem to misplace his phone number, lol
[14:16] {magoo} so, disregard my email, i have his number now
[14:16] {Threei} OK... if you share it with me over dcc, I will have it again too
[14:16] {Threei} or I will beat it out of him tomorrow
[14:16] {magoo} ok, go now
Session Time: Tue Dec 18 00:00:00 2007
[05:16] {Threei} 07:30am [EPIX] Reports Compelling Clinical Results for PRX-03140 in Alzheimer's Disease; Statistically Significant Improvement in Cognitive Function Achieved Within Two Weeks
[05:17] {Threei} IMNY KODAK IMPLEMENTS I-MANY'S CONTRACT MANAGEMENT SOLUTION
[05:17] {Threei} - {EK}
[05:18] {BillyD} mornig Vad
[05:18] {Threei} 08:00am [IRBT] Wins $286M US Army contract
[05:18] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:20] {BillyD} see anything on solars.....ESLR a bit of a gap
[05:22] {Threei} Jaso SIGNS NEW WAFER SUPPLY AGREEMENT WITH RENESOLA
[05:22] {Threei} 01:45am [ESLR] UBS Initiates ESLR with Buy, price target: $20.00
[05:22] {BillyD} amazing...the mere mention of anything
[05:22] {BillyD} ah
[05:23] {Threei} that's all I see on solars
[05:23] {BillyD} ty
[05:24] {Threei} Parents should pay climate change tax on extra kids: expert
[05:24] {Threei} http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071210/od_afp/australiaclimatewarmingoffbeat_071210210151;_ylt=A9G_R3Xdu2dHyVMBTwCgOrgF
[05:25] {Threei} OK, craze seems to be coming to the stage where it should exhaust itself and die off
[05:26] {BillyD} the sterilsation a bit extreme
[05:26] {Threei} when it becomes that ridiculous, it's not unlike euphoria stage in the charts
[05:26] {BillyD} yes
[05:30] {Threei} NOV HOUSING STARTS: 1.187M V 1.176ME; BUILDING PERMITS: 1.152M V 1.150ME
[05:31] {BillyD} good news
[05:32] {Threei} and thankfully, Canada NOV LEADING INDICATOR M/M: 0.0% V 0.1%E
[05:32] {Threei} CAD is dropping fast
[05:33] {BillyD} CAD stand for
[05:33] {BillyD} ?
[05:33] {Threei} hope it continues, I just got my Nov earnings in USD and hated to see CAD strengthening over last several days before I could convert them
[05:34] {Threei} canadian dollar
[05:34] {BillyD} I see
[05:36] {BillyD} 1 USD is worth what in Canada
[05:37] {magoo} morning RT'
[05:38] {BillyD} magoo, u trading today
[05:38] {Threei} right now USD/CAD = 1.0071
[05:38] {Threei} magoo :)
[05:38] {Threei} a few years ago it was about 1.6
[05:39] {BillyD} so Vad, your USD is worth less thatn Canadin right now
[05:39] {Threei} roughly at par
[05:39] {BillyD} ok
[05:39] {Threei} consider bank spread vs actual trading price
[05:39] {BillyD} at 1.6 was worth way less right?
[05:39] {Threei} USD was much higher
[05:40] {BillyD} sorry, right
[05:40] {Threei} which gave my much more CAD for it
[05:40] {Threei} which in turn used to make me much happier
[05:40] {Threei} :)
[05:40] {magoo} yes billy
[05:41] {magoo} i remember vad hgoing on my snomo triups and at border exchanging 1k US for roughly 1600 canadian
[05:41] {Threei} yeah
[05:41] {Threei} and not it's about parity
[05:42] {Threei} not = now
[05:45] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:49] {cosmo} IRBT
[05:49] {cosmo} IRobot Gets $286M Army Contract
[05:49] {cosmo} AP (Tue 8:28am)
[05:50] {cosmo} 20.50 pre mkt high ...so far
[05:52] {Threei} TREASURY SEC PAULSON: GOAL IS TO PREVENT HOUSING 'MARKET FAILURE' - INTERVIEW COMMENTS
[05:53] {cosmo} EPIX getting active ... can't remember why tho....
[05:54] {Threei} [08:16] {Threei} 07:30am [EPIX] Reports Compelling Clinical Results for PRX-03140 in Alzheimer's Disease; Statistically Significant Improvement in Cognitive Function Achieved Within Two Weeks
[05:54] {Threei} CHINA took serious hit
[05:54] {cosmo} why wait 2 weeks?
[05:55] {cosmo} ... no matter
[06:04] {Threei} INSM
[06:04] {Threei} RECEIVES FDA ORPHAN DRUG DESIGNATION FOR IPLEX IN THE TREATMENT OF MYOTONIC MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY- Insmed is currently conducting a 24-week Phase III enabling trial for IPLEX(TM) in MMD, and recently was awarded a grant of approximately $2.1 million from the Muscular Dystrophy Association (MDA), which is expected to cover a substantial portion of the external costs associated with the trial.
[06:04] {Threei} cheapie and toughie... posting it just because it went over big resistance, so who knows, maybe picks up interest
[06:11] {dptl} good morning all
[06:12] {dino} gm all
[06:12] {magoo} missed EPIX vad
[06:12] {magoo} nice move
[06:12] {Threei} dp, dino :)
[06:12] {esemde} good morning as well.....
[06:13] {Threei} ese :)
[06:13] {esemde} soory for not saying goodbye yesterday i departed abruptly....the TD bank presented my music program witha $2000 check and i had to be there by 8:30
[06:14] {dino} nice
[06:14] {magoo} do not let it happen again lol
[06:15] {esemde} will do mags
[06:15] {Threei} cool beans, ese :)
[06:15] {esemde} they have alot of money to give....A LOT.....could have spared a couple of thou more it think
[06:16] {magoo} mkts open 24th and 26th anyone? i am trying to plan my computer crashes around this
[06:16] {Threei} lol
[06:21] {cosmo} epix
[06:21] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:22] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:23] {dptl} 24th half day i think
[06:24] {BillyD} that would be my guess dp
[06:27] {magoo} how about 26th?
[06:28] {cosmo} IRBT: 20.50 pre mkt high
[06:28] {esemde} anyone following ESLR
[06:28] {magoo} watching EPIX
[06:29] {cosmo} epix should hold 4.55
[06:29] {cosmo} needs to hold 4.50
[06:29] {cosmo} imho
[06:32] {Threei} IRBT sizeable pullback
[06:33] {BillyD} spread on it yuk
[06:33] {BillyD} better now
[06:33] {Threei} yeah
[06:34] {Roman} KONG
[06:34] {Roman} long setup
[06:34] {magoo} id like see more pull on it
[06:34] {esemde} bstop ESLR .56
[06:35] {magoo} epix has the feel vad
[06:37] {magoo} need it to breathe hold 5 and go
[06:38] {esemde} ESLR invalidated
[06:39] {magoo} vad, i do not have the naz along side my dow on bottom, do u?
[06:39] {magoo} laser question
[06:39] {Threei} no, something is wrong with COMPX
[06:40] {BillyD} and NDX as well
[06:40] {magoo} ok, thought it was my side
[06:40] {Threei} let's nag laserdave qwhen he is in
[06:40] {magoo} ty
[06:40] {magoo} i know, lets smack him
[06:41] {Threei} nice pullback EPIX
[06:41] {Threei} not sure it's entry level yet
[06:41] {magoo} 4.50 area better
[06:41] {Threei} I'd feel way better around 4.5
[06:41] {magoo} qqqq tanking
[06:41] {Threei} hmmm
[06:41] {Threei} mags... get out of my head
[06:42] {BillyD} BRCM weak yesterday Vad
[06:42] {Threei} and take this camera off my shoulder
[06:42] {magoo} rats..ooooo..kkkkkkkkkk
[06:42] {Threei} red today while NQ is green too
[06:43] {Threei} .60 is resisatnce
[06:43] {Threei} yesterday's close is .63
[06:43] {Threei} I'd think, short with .65 stop
[06:43] {Threei} aggressive
[06:43] {Threei} NQ downturn is a signal for entry
[06:43] {BillyD} ok
[06:43] {dino} star
[06:44] {Threei} keep finger on a trigger but don't jump in into buying
[06:45] {magoo} aapl pulls hard
[06:45] {Threei} now seems fine
[06:45] {Threei} nope went over .65
[06:46] {Threei} hard to nail entry here, not sure
[06:46] {magoo} man..epix is tempting..but
[06:47] {magoo} don't know if its following q
[06:47] {Threei} nah
[06:47] {esemde} long EMKR pullback .85
[06:47] {Threei} fresh news stock
[06:48] {magoo} its avai short..but we missed a point short already
[06:48] {magoo} avail
[06:50] {Threei} half lot long EPIX .65, stop .49
[06:50] {Threei} if loses .50 before triggering, back off
[06:51] {magoo} in
[06:51] {dptl} in.68
[06:53] {Threei} stopped
[06:53] {dptl} stopped
[06:53] {BillyD} yeah
[06:54] {magoo} out
[06:57] {dino} star l .00
[06:58] {esemde} out EMKR. .03 =+.17
[06:59] {esemde} opps make that +.12
[07:00] {dino} gj
[07:01] {BillyD} EPIX CC at 10:30 ET this morning
[07:03] {dino} star stopped -.40
[07:04] {esemde} l ESLR 15 54
[07:04] {dino} fxp l .55
[07:05] {BillyD} no clarity here
[07:05] {Threei} nope
[07:06] {Threei} nothing looks compelling
[07:06] {Threei} pace is very low everywhere
[07:07] {BillyD} everything jumps up and down
[07:07] {dino} out fxp .37, +.82
[07:07] {magoo} nice dino
[07:07] {bruce} very nice dino
[07:08] {Threei} huh?
[07:08] {Threei} JASO
[07:08] {Threei} PRICE TARGET RAISED TO 488 FROM $65 AT CIBC
[07:08] {dino} ty, watch bidu, for indication on it
[07:08] {esemde} nice one dino
[07:08] {esemde} beats my ESLR at the moment
[07:08] {Threei} ok, correction
[07:08] {Threei} PRICE TARGET RAISED AT CIBC TO $88 FROM $65
[07:08] {BillyD} NVDA holds well
[07:10] {dino} l fxp .50
[07:11] {dino} bidu neg.
[07:12] {dino} out fxp .00, +.50
[07:13] {BillyD} wtg dino
[07:13] {dino} ty
[07:17] {BillyD} no bounce
[07:17] {Threei} NVDA worth a try long here
[07:17] {Threei} .75 stop
[07:18] {Threei} as close to .80 as you can get
[07:18] {BillyD} in .89
[07:18] {BillyD} went in when you said here
[07:18] {Threei} yup
[07:19] {dptl} in.88
[07:19] {Threei} it often makes little up/down jiggles
[07:19] {Threei} sometimes help with better entry but not overly important
[07:19] {BillyD} ok, wanted to make sure I followed your instructions clearly :)
[07:19] {Threei} since same thing happens on exits
[07:20] {Threei} take scalp as you see fit guys
[07:20] {Threei} market is very uncertain
[07:21] {Threei} stop to .79 in any case
[07:22] {BillyD} out most here
[07:22] {Threei} offering .01
[07:22] {dptl} out+.12ty
[07:22] {Threei} out
[07:22] {BillyD} out rst ty
[07:22] {magoo} out .01 TY VAD
[07:22] {Threei} welcome
[07:23] {Threei} wierd feeling, almost like we traded noise, not real move
[07:23] {Threei} but whatever
[07:23] {BillyD} lol
[07:24] {Threei} btw,
[07:24] {Threei} while it hesitated under 34
[07:25] {Threei} did you notice what I meant about those little jiggles?
[07:25] {BillyD} yes
[07:25] {Threei} .93 - .98
[07:25] {Threei} if market is uncertain, no real strong jump while you are looking for entry
[07:25] {Threei} try to exploit those to get better entry point
[07:25] {magoo} well, my camera and i thought u meant your stomach jiggles
[07:26] {BillyD} you mean .83-.88
[07:26] {Threei} what are you talking about my stone-firm 6 pack never jiggles
[07:26] {Threei} that too
[07:26] {Threei} did same thing when hesitated in 90s
[07:27] {Threei} lol NVDA
[07:27] {Threei} whoever said to exit must be drugged through ther streets hooked up by upper lip to the truck
[07:27] {BillyD} these mkt moves makes it tougher
[07:27] {BillyD} never know which is real one
[07:27] {Threei} look at NQ
[07:28] {Threei} never moved for real
[07:28] {Threei} no way I could read this NVDA move, no leading indicator
[07:28] {Threei} in fact, it looks like NVDA led
[07:28] {BillyD} all I have is QQQQ and we sold at stall, could have went either way
[07:28] {Threei} NQ plays catch up
[07:28] {magoo} wonder if..watchinhg..see if conf call pops EPIX
[07:29] {bruce} wasn't that basis for nvda call vade - you thgought nq going long?
[07:29] {Threei} yes, and NVDA forming bottom close enough for my comfort and far enough from the high
[07:29] {bruce} k
[07:30] {Threei} but if you compare bounces,
[07:30] {bruce} I had no read on it either way - thought it was follower play
[07:30] {Threei} you'll see that NVDA not only moved much farther than NQ did, that alone would be fine as relative strength
[07:30] {Threei} but it moved first
[07:31] {Threei} they worked in a good synch at the beginning of the bounce, NQ led,
[07:31] {Threei} served as help for our entry
[07:31] {BillyD} it is right in step w/QQQQ
[07:31] {Threei} then NVDA proceeded higher while NQ heistated
[07:31] {bruce} k
[07:32] {Threei} so yes, it was a follower play
[07:32] {Threei} it just un-synched along the way leading us to take profit sooner than we could
[07:35] {dino} out fxp +.25, too fast
[07:37] {bruce} you should marry that stock dino
[07:37] {bruce} being good to you
[07:37] {Threei} and would be decent thing to do after what you did to it
[07:37] {BillyD} BRCM not following much
[07:38] {BillyD} any read Vad
[07:38] {bruce} lol vad
[07:38] {Threei} can't get any vibe from it billy
[07:38] {BillyD} ty
[07:39] {Threei} it's kind of on its own
[07:39] {BillyD} agree
[07:39] {Threei} formed consolidation under .80, looked good for a break,
[07:39] {Threei} now dropped off it
[07:39] {BillyD} total guessing game
[07:40] {Threei} not BRCM nor NVDA show clean following
[07:40] {Threei} which is actually was what I said yesterday,
[07:40] {Threei} normal pattern are not of much use in holiday trading
[07:40] {BillyD} yes
[07:41] {Threei} hunt and peck
[07:41] {Threei} if we are lucky we will get some momos here and there
[07:41] {Threei} if not, scalps only on the most compelling and least risky setups
[07:41] {bruce} csun
[07:43] {bruce} lets do the oppostie of what vads cat does
[07:43] {Threei} then do not eat rose
[07:44] {bruce} lol
[07:45] {Threei} and umm... if I may ask... do not jump on my desk and behind monitors, dol not discinnect power cords from them and sound cord from speakers
[07:45] {Threei} thank you
[07:46] {dino} qid l .80, stop .45
[07:46] {BillyD} maybe you need to get the cat it's own trading PC and would leave yours alone
[07:47] {Threei} it'll have to prove to me it can trade profitably with paper account first
[07:47] {bruce} cat learned all that from magoo
[07:50] {dino} qid stopped .69 -.11
[07:50] {bruce} ddup
[07:51] {dino} lifc l .98
[07:54] {dino} ehth giving yesterday back
[08:01] {dino} ehth l .15, stop .65
[08:03] {Threei} NVDA feels like breakout now
[08:03] {Threei} .26 long
[08:04] {magoo} rd twio epix also..risky
[08:04] {dino} make ehlth stop .78
[08:04] {dino} not thrilled
[08:05] {magoo} eats 4.50, long trigg epix
[08:07] {Threei} stop .14 NVDA
[08:07] {Threei} if loses .15, invalidated
[08:08] {dino} ehth stopp -.27
[08:08] {dino} -.37
[08:10] {esemde} welll ...the stop on my measly 300 lot hasn't been hit yet but i have to go....see you all tomorrow.
[08:10] {Threei} take care ese
[08:10] {esemde} see ya VAD
[08:10] {bruce} bye ese
[08:10] {esemde} bruce
[08:10] {magoo} bye es
[08:10] {bruce} no conviction in market vad - chop city
[08:11] {Threei} I will be the last person to argue against it bruce
[08:11] {Threei} not often you see me that conservative
[08:12] {magoo} E{PIX
[08:17] {dino} lifc stopped -.45
[08:20] {dptl} did you get epix.Magoo?
[08:22] {magoo} yhes
[08:22] {dptl} okhey
[08:22] {magoo} lay out .64 for scalp
[08:22] {dptl} i see
[08:23] {magoo} stop .39
[08:28] {dino} dxd l .30. stop .98
[08:30] {BillyD} EPIX just not nice today
[08:30] {BillyD} not in, but observation
[08:30] {magoo} should have worked, no power
[08:30] {Threei} {EPIX} ah leave me alone, I am old and tired
[08:31] {BillyD} BRCM laughs at me....had it short at .39 took amazing dime on it
[08:31] {bruce} epix - let me kick your ass by pretending to go long
[08:36] {bruce} any read brcm vad - still looks weak
[08:37] {Threei} just can't get anything to use as a leader for it
[08:37] {Threei} and not inclined to trade this stock on its own merits
[08:38] {bruce} k
[08:39] {bruce} think I'll just sit on mouse
[08:40] {bruce} keep it warm and protected from marauding cats
[08:43] {Threei} good idea
[08:44] {bruce} double bottom in csun now
[08:45] {dino} hmsy s .70
[08:52] {dino} out dxd .60, +.30
[08:54] {dino} hmsy bstop to .52
[08:56] {bruce} watching q's drop
[08:56] {bruce} nvda short vad?
[08:58] {Threei} I don't have read on it
[08:58] {Threei} look at BRCM
[08:58] {Threei} no following at all
[08:58] {Threei} NVDA, a bit better
[08:58] {bruce} yes - watching it too - holding despite downtick
[08:58] {Threei} but far from normal clean following
[08:58] {bruce} brcm has already done daily range though
[09:02] {BillyD} BRCM has a stubborn buyer here
[09:02] {BillyD} not sure who's gonna win though
[09:03] {bruce} I like brcm pattern short billy - but not thrilled with volume in it
[09:06] {Threei} I don't know about short here bruce
[09:06] {dino} artc l .45
[09:06] {Threei} if it consolidated here while NQ went up, sure, that would be classic short pattern
[09:06] {Threei} but it holds support while NQ drops
[09:06] {bruce} me either vad - thinking we may be seeing bounce coming
[09:07] {dino} feeling same
[09:07] {bruce} kong read vad?
[09:07] {dino} hmsy bstop to .40
[09:08] {dino} cov hmsy .40, +.30
[09:08] {Threei} KONG is just a former momo that lost momo
[09:08] {Threei} when momo returns it will be a momo player againb
[09:08] {bruce} k
[09:09] {bruce} got it
[09:09] {Threei} but as of no no momo insight, so no momo play
[09:09] {bruce} no mo momo
[09:09] {Threei} right... that's what I was trying to say :)
[09:09] {bruce} lol
[09:13] {bruce} pathetic bouce in q's
[09:13] {bruce} another wave of selling coming
[09:14] {dptl} how's epix short here?
[09:16] {Threei} a bit oo far down from its highs...
[09:16] {dino} tbsi l .70, stop lod
[09:17] {BillyD} it seems trading behaiors way out of norms
[09:18] {Threei} very much so
[09:18] {dino} layn l .99
[09:18] {Threei} with holidays you never know
[09:18] {dino} stop lod
[09:18] {Threei} sometimes it's unbelievably greattrading time
[09:18] {BillyD} that was what I had hoped for
[09:18] {Threei} sometimes totally lucklustre
[09:18] {dino} lackluster this year, last year was great
[09:18] {Threei} umm... spell it right to get what I mean
[09:19] {Threei} ty dino
[09:19] {dino} lol, didn't see that
[09:19] {Threei} and worst thing is, it can change in a blink of eye
[09:19] {dino} but understood
[09:20] {Threei} if not that we cxould just leave till new year'
[09:20] {Threei} but would be a shame to do that and then see market posted some spectacular trading candidates
[09:20] {Threei} thanksgiving day of I think 1999
[09:21] {BillyD} always that "gonna miss something"
[09:21] {Threei} absolutely incredibly unbeliervable trading day
[09:21] {Threei} everyone was like, "uh, pre-holiday day, nothing will happen, let's look what's out there in the morning, and leave"
[09:22] {Threei} huge rally, stocks were just doubling and tripling
[09:23] {Threei} not to such extend but did happen several time since then on such days
[09:29] {dino} artc stop to b/e
[09:32] {BillyD} days like today tend to keep you from taking trades you see and feel
[09:32] {BillyD} then you regret it not following your gut
[09:32] {Threei} I always follow my gut...
[09:33] {BillyD} cuases you to think too much
[09:33] {Threei} it's located right in front of me... unless I walk backwards, I have no choice but follow it
[09:33] {BillyD} yeah, to the refrigerator
[09:33] {BillyD} no , it leads
[09:34] {BillyD} have already eaten twice here w/ dessert
[09:42] {dino} artc stopped b/e
[09:46] {dino} layn stop to .42
[09:48] {dino} tbsi stop to .97
[09:48] {dino} out tbsi +.27
[09:56] {dino} cov layn .44, +.45
[10:02] {Threei} EPIX bounce time nears
[10:03] {BillyD} why you say that?
[10:03] {Threei} feels like selling exhausts itself
[10:03] {BillyD} ok
[10:05] {BillyD} trigger?
[10:06] {Threei} good question
[10:07] {dino} l idxx .05, stop lod
[10:08] {Threei} hopefully, EPIX pulls back one more time
[10:08] {Threei} so we get tgrigger and stop
[10:08] {dino} artc l .30, stop .98
[10:10] {Threei} unltimate in social engineering idiocy
[10:10] {Threei} http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/16/ncar116.xml
[10:12] {Threei} 3.88 EPIX long if no pullback anymore, 3.77 stop
[10:14] {dptl} in.89
[10:15] {dino} brb
[10:19] {dptl} nvda?
[10:19] {Threei} EPIX water torture is not enough for you?
[10:19] {Threei} you want two of them?
[10:19] {dptl} lol
[10:23] {bruce} moving epix stop to .89
[10:26] {dptl} out flat
[10:26] {bruce} out +2c for me
[10:27] {bruce} font like to let anyh profit slip away on days like this
[10:27] {dptl} and its gonna go now..lol
[10:29] {dino} out artc .63, +.33
[10:29] {BillyD} making it look easy dino
[10:30] {dino} lol bd, but easier than yesterday
[10:31] {dino} now give idxx an up-kick
[10:31] {Threei} here comes EPIX
[10:31] {dptl} i knew it
[10:31] {BillyD} sold some here
[10:35] {BillyD} and here .05
[10:38] {BillyD} out rest thx Vad
[10:38] {Threei} welcome
[10:44] {dino} idxx stop to .39
[10:45] {dino} gj bd
[10:45] {BillyD} ty dino
[10:46] {dino} to .47 stingy
[10:47] {Threei} EMKR half lor .51 long
[10:47] {dino} to .60
[10:47] {liranm} stop?
[10:47] {Threei} .39
[10:48] {dptl} in.54
[10:49] {dino} to .74
[10:50] {dino} to .85
[10:51] {dino} nfbk
[10:52] {dptl} stopped
[10:57] {dino} to .95 idxx
[11:02] {dptl} .
[11:02] {dino} out idxx .94, +.89
[11:03] {dino} taking a break
[11:06] {BillyD} is mkt trying to come out of death coma
[11:09] {BillyD} and handing out "dunce" hats everywhere
[11:09] {Threei} ENER
[11:11] {Threei} 32 break, half lot if stays above .90
[11:14] {dino} syna l .50
[11:15] {Threei} valid again
[11:15] {BillyD} ener still looks valid
[11:18] {Threei} looks like have to pay it with .85 stop
[11:18] {Threei} adjust shares accordingly
[11:21] {BillyD} passing on it here
[11:21] {Threei} I guess
[11:22] {dptl} epix of .30?
[11:22] {Threei} tough call
[11:22] {Threei} chart looks fine but so fasr from low...
[11:23] {Threei} nailed the bottom almost exactly on it
[11:23] {dptl} with .15 stop?
[11:23] {Threei} well... chart wise it's valid
[11:24] {dptl} ener not valid anymore ?
[11:25] {dino} out syna .84, +.34
[11:25] {Threei} very risky
[11:25] {Threei} it canm work still but too jerky
[11:25] {dptl} i see
[11:25] {BillyD} ESLR
[11:30] {Threei} took 16 cents on ENER
[11:31] {Threei} I guess I am too bored
[11:31] {Threei} on a normal day I wouldn't go for it
[11:31] {BillyD} more I saw it, the more I was like no
[11:32] {Threei} CSIQ
[11:32] {Threei} what the?
[11:35] {Threei} allow me reiterate: what the...?
[11:36] {BillyD} crazy
[11:36] {Threei} OK, who's next
[11:36] {Threei} CSUN?
[11:36] {Threei} still in red
[11:37] {Threei} and no real activity
[11:37] {BillyD} seems like everything moves with every tick of QQQQ
[11:37] {BillyD} at leats here
[11:37] {BillyD} least
[11:38] {dino} syna l; .60
[11:46] {dino} out syna .75, +.15
[11:53] {dino} back in 15
[11:53] {Threei} CSIQ feels like another run in the making
[11:58] {Threei} small shares if 26 is taken again
[12:01] {Threei} out half .35
[12:02] {Threei} out in full
[12:02] {Threei} .70
[12:02] {BillyD} nic eone
[12:02] {Threei} sheesh... all day wait for a big play
[12:02] {Threei} anyone did it?
[12:03] {BillyD} not here
[12:03] {dptl} too fast
[12:06] {magoo} i did vad
[12:06] {magoo} to fast to type TY
[12:06] {Threei} wtg mags
[12:06] {Threei} told you guys, things can change on a dime
[12:06] {Threei} gotta be alert
[12:07] {BillyD} lol
[12:13] {dino} syna l .25
[12:22] {dino} out syna .60, +.35
[12:23] {dino} too soon
[12:23] {dino} hmsy pin 30
[12:24] {Threei} EMKR fooled us good
[12:24] {BillyD} yes
[12:24] {dptl} have a good evening all see ya tomorrow
[12:24] {BillyD} bye dp
[12:25] {Threei} take care dp
[12:25] {BillyD} that EPIX spikes up and down w/out real signsal
[12:26] {Threei} yeah, I don't it... that entry off the bottom was the only one where I could get a feel for it
[12:27] {BillyD} I took again on the PB at .96 and sold for measley scalp...and it goes over .20
[12:34] {dino} syna parial fill l .50
[12:35] {Threei} CSUN wakes up
[12:35] {BillyD} tough trader with no juice
[12:36] {BillyD} tempting
[12:39] {Threei} look at CPST range today
[12:39] {dino} out syna .85, +.35
[12:39] {BillyD} perfect
[12:39] {Threei} dino is killing them today
[12:40] {dino} just lucky, f'd up yeterday, so back to even for week
[12:40] {Threei} so week starts tomorrow
[12:40] {dino} "indeed"
[12:41] {dino} hmsy gonna hold all this
[12:41] {magoo} not for me..prolly have a 2 million daytrade call
[12:41] {Threei} rofl
[12:41] {dino} ooomannnnnn
[12:41] {BillyD} hope not
[12:42] {magoo} dave here??
[12:42] {dino} one more, just went 10/11
[12:42] {magoo} really need to speak with him
[12:42] {Threei} yes magoo, he is ready just for you to be trouted
[12:42] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:42] {Threei} hmmm... took you long time
[12:43] {Threei} you used to be more truot-willing
[12:43] {dino} hmsy s .60, stop .77
[12:44] {dino} too soon
[12:45] {dino} stopped -.22 slippage
[13:00] {Threei} thank you all
[13:00] {Threei} hacve a good evening, see you tomorrow
[13:01] {hawkfan4} thx vad
[13:03] {magoo} laser dave dcc
[13:06] {magoo} vad, u here??
[14:08] {Threei} hey
[14:08] {Threei} what's up magoo?
[14:11] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[14:14] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:15] {magoo} i spoke cwith dave on phone tonite
[14:15] {Threei} OK... I seem to misplace his phone number, lol
[14:16] {magoo} so, disregard my email, i have his number now
[14:16] {Threei} OK... if you share it with me over dcc, I will have it again too
[14:16] {Threei} or I will beat it out of him tomorrow
[14:16] {magoo} ok, go now
Monday, December 17, 2007
December 17, 2007
Session Start: Mon Dec 17 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Mon Dec 17 00:00:00 2007
[05:37] {Threei} 05:22am [CSUN] Reports encouraging initial results from the commercial production of selective emitter solar cells
[05:37] {Threei} 08:13am [EMKR] To Supply 20 Megawatts of Concentrating Solar Photovoltaic Systems in South Koreamore.. - Has received a purchase order to supply 5.7 Megawatts (MW) of EMCORE's Concentrating Photovoltaic (CPV) systems for alternative energy projects in South Korea, along with a letter of intent for follow-on projects of 14.3 MW, expected to be released within the next 6 months. - Financial terms not disclosed08:00am [EMKR] Reports preliminar
[05:43] {BillyD} morning Vad
[05:43] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:44] {Threei} CSUN breaks that C&H but with premarket gap...
[05:44] {BillyD} I see
[05:44] {Threei} not my favorite way
[05:44] {BillyD} always tougher to gauge
[05:45] {Threei} EMKR is funny
[05:45] {Threei} missed earnings
[05:45] {Threei} and announced new contract
[05:45] {BillyD} and gaps up
[05:45] {BillyD} future must be bright
[05:50] {Threei} resisting temptation to jump on CSUN bandwagon
[05:51] {BillyD} I don' have a read on it because not watching close enough
[05:51] {BillyD} gonna see if KONG gets any continuation
[05:51] {Threei} all you need to know about CSUN: it's one of "those"
[05:51] {BillyD} if you seem to get "the" move of the day
[05:52] {Threei} 07:31am [KONG] Guides Q4 R $$18.5 - 19.5M v $18.8Me
[05:52] {Threei} kind of vague guidance
[05:52] {BillyD} yes, but when does it matter....especially if it gets a bit of momo
[05:53] {Threei} yup
[05:53] {Threei} 6 was important resistance
[05:53] {BillyD} yes, had it on radra for the break about 1-2 weeks ago
[05:54] {BillyD} never nade it
[05:54] {BillyD} but hung around when others fell away
[05:56] {BillyD} maybe this is why CSUN held so firm w/ mkt selling friday
[05:57] {BillyD} when we entered
[06:01] {hawkfan4} morning Vad, Billy, rt'ers
[06:01] {Threei} hawk :)
[06:02] {Threei} so, 11.60 is new CSUN support
[06:03] {Threei} hate the fact that closing price is so far away from it, makes support kind of fuzzy
[06:03] {Threei} especially considering natural volatility
[06:05] {BillyD} morning hawk
[06:06] {hawkfan4} :) billy
[06:06] {dino} gm all
[06:06] {dptl} good morning all
[06:06] {BillyD} dino, dp
[06:06] {Threei} dino, dp :)
[06:07] {dino} :)
[06:08] {BillyD} KONG shortable as well Vad
[06:09] {cosmo} KONG pre mkt high = 6.32 fwiw
[06:09] {Threei} EMKR too
[06:09] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:09] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:10] {Threei} CSUN isn't
[06:12] {BillyD} hi liranm
[06:15] {BillyD} dino, more snow this wknd?
[06:16] {Threei} Toronto is hit with 20-26 inches
[06:16] {BillyD} wow
[06:16] {BillyD} heading to Chicago this weekend and hoping no delays with flight
[06:16] {BillyD} it seems everyone getting hit good
[06:17] {Threei} am I glad to be on West coast...
[06:17] {BillyD} everyone except us
[06:17] {BillyD} {G}
[06:18] {cosmo} gee... i like snow too
[06:18] {cosmo} never get any
[06:18] {Threei} we all do, from far away
[06:18] {BillyD} lol
[06:19] {BillyD} had frost on grass the other morning
[06:19] {BillyD} took a picture
[06:19] {cosmo} we have to use cotton on the outdoor displays
[06:20] {BillyD} lol
[06:20] {Threei} yeah, that was the worst of winter I saw so far this year
[06:20] {Threei} daffodils start peeking out
[06:21] {Threei} or crocuses
[06:21] {Threei} or tulips... whatever they are but spring bulbs for sure
[06:21] {Threei} {---- picturing bruce crying
[06:22] {BillyD} where does bruce live....Iceland
[06:23] {Threei} kind of
[06:23] {Threei} Permafrost Central
[06:25] {cosmo} SVNT pre mkt high = 20
[06:26] {Threei} CSUN and CSIQ often show this pattern... deep pullback right before the opn or first minutes after, then huge jump
[06:26] {Threei} {--- hopeful
[06:26] {bruce} I hate dafodills vad
[06:26] {BillyD} CSUN your main one for now right?
[06:27] {Threei} probably
[06:27] {Threei} we all do bruce
[06:27] {Threei} but what can one do... gotta have some
[06:27] {bruce} good ;point
[06:27] {BillyD} where do you live bruce
[06:28] {bruce} could plant some nice dandelions
[06:28] {Threei} oh, those plant themselves
[06:28] {bruce} sasatchewan billy
[06:28] {esemde} morning all
[06:28] {bruce} central canada
[06:28] {BillyD} ok
[06:28] {BillyD} coldville
[06:28] {Threei} happy to report, I have enough of them :)
[06:28] {Threei} ese :)
[06:28] {esemde} CSUN moving again i see
[06:28] {Threei} yeah, had news
[06:28] {bruce} we hqve 200+ days of frost each y4r
[06:29] {BillyD} ouch
[06:29] {Threei} [08:37] {Threei} 05:22am [CSUN] Reports encouraging initial results from the commercial production of selective emitter solar cells
[06:29] {Threei} told ya, Permafrost Central
[06:29] {BillyD} no kidding
[06:29] {Threei} me knows, me lived there
[06:29] {Threei} me hated
[06:30] {bruce} the frost is good for you
[06:30] {bruce} keeps you from overheating
[06:30] {Threei} yup, when I am 1,5K miles away
[06:31] {cosmo} svnt
[06:31] {bruce} \poor vad
[06:32] {bruce} has all that miserable rain to contend with now
[06:32] {Threei} ISLD seems to be offg
[06:32] {Threei} route to ARCA
[06:33] {BillyD} internet went out again,,,maybe they working on it again here :(
[06:33] {Threei} CSUN pullback, watching
[06:33] {Threei} .60 break long
[06:33] {Threei} stop under .50
[06:34] {Threei} 1:1
[06:35] {dptl} mised it
[06:36] {Threei} 09:36:10 ADMIN7 --} (All): INET experiencing problems - please route away for now.
[06:36] {dino} slxp
[06:37] {dptl} thats why i didn't get it prob.
[06:37] {Threei} [09:32] {Threei} ISLD seems to be off
[06:37] {bruce} something wrong - have stuck order here
[06:39] {Threei} on ISLD?
[06:39] {Threei} or INET
[06:40] {bruce} yes
[06:40] {bruce} didn't get filled
[06:40] {Threei} [09:32] {Threei} route to ARCA
[06:40] {bruce} and order wont cancel
[06:42] {Threei} Smart works fine now
[06:42] {dino} cpla l .07
[06:42] {Threei} EMKR .10 break long
[06:42] {Threei} stop under 13
[06:44] {Threei} invalidated
[06:46] {Threei} 11.50 held CSUN, .65 has big offer... break of it is long half lot
[06:47] {Threei} .49 stop
[06:48] {Threei} invalidated
[06:48] {Threei} this group doesn't play ball so far
[06:48] {Threei} Roman's PEIX goes crazy
[06:49] {Roman} MGPI follows
[06:50] {bruce} don't use inet - not working
[06:50] {dino} cpla stopped -.40
[06:50] {Threei} stuck order removed for me bruce
[06:50] {Threei} yours?
[06:51] {bruce} yes
[06:51] {bruce} they just took it out
[06:51] {bruce} called them
[06:51] {bruce} said they're still working on problem
[06:51] {Threei} ok, no harm done
[06:51] {bruce} nope -trade would haveworked
[06:52] {bruce} too ad I couldn't get inor out
[06:52] {Threei} I alerted to switch to ARCA...
[06:52] {dino} cof s .80
[06:52] {bruce} thats way to go
[06:53] {bruce} usually there is a post that somethng is wrong but nottoday
[06:54] {bruce} qh - there is messagenow
[06:55] {Roman} KONG
[06:55] {Roman} nears high
[06:57] {dino} idxx
[06:59] {dino} fstr
[06:59] {BillyD} VAd, any confidence yet in CSUN
[07:00] {Threei} not really
[07:00] {BillyD} k
[07:00] {Threei} kind of sluggish
[07:00] {Threei} no determination
[07:00] {Roman} JASO
[07:00] {Roman} long
[07:00] {Roman} 70.31
[07:00] {Roman} super small
[07:01] {Roman} wide stop
[07:01] {Roman} looking for 1 point
[07:02] {dino} idxx l .00
[07:03] {Threei} RMBS
[07:03] {dino} cof stopped .11, -.31
[07:04] {Threei} .80 break long
[07:04] {Threei} under .65 invalidated
[07:04] {esemde} have been watching that as well Vad
[07:04] {Threei} :)
[07:06] {dptl} got .82
[07:07] {Threei} hold very well while NQ retreats
[07:07] {esemde} rats...take your eyes off something for a second...rmbs
[07:08] {Threei} needs help from market
[07:08] {Roman} stopped JASO -1.1
[07:08] {Threei} .64 stop
[07:09] {Threei} come on NQ, bounce
[07:14] {lumdus} RMBS used to know how to run. commong 1 last stand !
[07:14] {Threei} it wants it very much, just restrained by NQ selloff
[07:15] {lumdus} holding very nice, if nq goes we have a good day
[07:16] {Threei} finally
[07:16] {Threei} 1:1
[07:16] {Threei} half or scalp, whatever you fancy
[07:17] {lumdus} 3i, trying to learn this. but it looks damm strong to just scalp it.
[07:17] {dptl} out +.12 ty
[07:17] {Threei} that's a personal choice
[07:18] {Threei} yw dp
[07:18] {dino} fstyr l .70
[07:18] {dino} wide
[07:18] {Threei} just don't let profitable trade to turn into loss, profits need to be protected
[07:18] {lumdus} ok, got it .70 stop .75 hard stop per your request sir.
[07:18] {dino} fstr
[07:19] {dino} hayn blood
[07:19] {dino} l .75
[07:20] {Threei} dp, what route did you use?
[07:20] {dptl} arca in ana out
[07:21] {Threei} interesting... ARCA rejected my orser with some wierd message, never seen it before
[07:21] {Threei} but Smart worked
[07:21] {Threei} 10:21:27 ADMIN7 --} (All): INET is ok now - we are running the last exection report shortly to determine if any fills took place.
[07:21] {dptl} offered it out on arca with no prob here
[07:22] {bruce} inet back up
[07:22] {lumdus} go rmbs go !
[07:22] {Threei} KONG new high
[07:23] {lumdus} rmbs to the moon
[07:23] {Threei} good boy RMBS
[07:23] {lumdus} out 1/2 rmbs + .35 tx 3i
[07:23] {lumdus} rest stop .85
[07:25] {Threei} welcome sir
[07:29] {BillyD} ADPI player
[07:29] {BillyD} bit jumpy
[07:29] {Threei} what killed it last week?
[07:30] {BillyD} looks a lawsuit against them
[07:30] {Threei} yeah, see it... lost lawsuit, iordered to pay damages
[07:33] {bruce} medx possible pullback long?
[07:34] {Threei} .55 with .47 stop
[07:34] {Threei} wow KONG
[07:35] {BillyD} Vad, u taking MEDX if triggers
[07:35] {bruce} thanx vad
[07:35] {Threei} nah, not my kind
[07:35] {Threei} it's a valid setup, just not what makes me excited
[07:35] {BillyD} ok
[07:37] {Threei} Roman... PEIX .21 worth a try?
[07:37] {Roman} yes
[07:37] {Threei} or ruan its course in your opinion?
[07:37] {Threei} ok, ty
[07:37] {Threei} you had great read on this one so I wanted to verify
[07:39] {dptl} where stop would be on peix?
[07:40] {Threei} 7.10 and 7 are suppoert levels, kind of hard to pick between them
[07:40] {dptl} ok ty
[07:40] {Threei} RMBS 1:2
[07:41] {dptl} in .21
[07:42] {Roman} in MGPI small
[07:42] {Roman} 8.56
[07:43] {Threei} 1:1 PEIX if you placed .09 stop
[07:43] {bruce} 1/2 out peix
[07:43] {dptl} out +.14 ty
[07:43] {lumdus} peix i'll put stop b/e .24 not in the mood for scalps todsay
[07:44] {Threei} bruce and dp show grim determination to make money
[07:44] {Threei} lum shows grim determination to make ALL the money there is
[07:44] {BillyD} rofl
[07:44] {bruce} stop to b/e peix for balance
[07:45] {dino} ha=yn stopped .00, +.25
[07:45] {Threei} KONG, mama mia
[07:45] {bruce} my first trade attempt was svnt vad
[07:45] {Threei} my shame of the day stock
[07:45] {bruce} it went up $1.00 before retracing
[07:45] {BillyD} and mine
[07:46] {dptl} used inet this time worked fine
[07:46] {Threei} what time did you send your order at bruce?
[07:46] {Threei} for SVNT I mean
[07:47] {bruce} 9:33 at 20
[07:47] {bruce} would have filled
[07:48] {Threei} well... I alerted about routing at 9:32... if you just took me off usual ignore, you would have gotten it
[07:48] {bruce} lol
[07:48] {bruce} go ahead
[07:48] {bruce} rub it in
[07:48] {BillyD} he already di bruce :(
[07:48] {BillyD} lol
[07:48] {Threei} oh don't you doubt that for a sec :)
[07:48] {lumdus} peix.. working
[07:49] {Threei} I've been told that there are other joys in life aside from suffering of others
[07:49] {bruce} why don't you mqake up a mess of reak klots?
[07:49] {Threei} but I still question that
[07:49] {BillyD} twisted
[07:50] {BillyD} that closet upbring still has everlasting effect Vad
[07:50] {bruce} yes - twisted all
[07:50] {bruce} I feel sorry for patience - has to put up with this lot
[07:50] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[07:51] {Threei} what was that for
[07:51] {bruce} why not?
[07:51] {bruce} spread the fun
[07:51] {Threei} called three winners for you and got trouted?
[07:51] * Threei is looking for excuse to go home
[07:51] {lumdus} you exited trades early :)
[07:52] {Threei} hmmm
[07:52] {bruce} don't want you getting complacent
[07:52] {Threei} ah
[07:52] {Threei} dunno about early
[07:52] {bruce} out balance peix flat
[07:53] {Threei} aside of RMBS, things look scalpy
[07:53] {Threei} and even that one pulls back deeper than I would like for comfort
[07:53] {bruce} says thanks to vad for wins
[07:54] {bruce} just don't let it go to your head
[07:54] {Threei} sigh... can't catch a break
[07:54] {lumdus} 3i, so today is still scalping day ?
[07:54] {Threei} so far, obviously
[07:54] {bruce} typical monday lumdus
[07:54] {lumdus} ok, thank you
[07:55] {Threei} there are always some islands of different trading, RMBS is one of those so far
[07:56] {lumdus} ok, just learning this here
[07:56] {Threei} the rest is pretty much "take money lying on the street and move on"
[07:56] {Threei} mania stocks don't have any oomph today
[07:56] {BillyD} lol.....draw your gun, shhot to kill and look for next target Vad?
[07:56] {Threei} and pattern trading is questionable thing on a holiday week
[07:56] {Threei} eqzaktly billy
[07:56] {BillyD} rofl
[07:57] {Threei} don't laugh, it's not easy to type korrektly with gun in your hand
[07:57] {Threei} (will I make Raven faint today or he is too strong?)
[07:59] {bruce} peix continues
[08:00] {dino} fstr again l .45
[08:01] {lumdus} out peix . wow 3i on a roll today
[08:02] {Threei} wait till I come out of coma
[08:02] {Threei} actually... nah, that when my trading goes down the drain
[08:02] {bruce} hmm- I thpought you usually traded in coma vad?
[08:02] {Threei} yup
[08:03] {bruce} with life support vodka drip
[08:03] {Threei} IV in both hands
[08:04] {Threei} eyeballsmoving under the eyelids signal what to buy and when to sell
[08:04] {bruce} yes -
[08:04] {bruce} just enough room to use mouse
[08:04] {bruce} plus cat running over keyboard
[08:05] {Threei} now you know why my typing is what it is - cats are tough to train, it still misses some keys
[08:05] {bruce} thoughts on kong as pullback entry?
[08:06] {Threei} 6.80 is support for a stop placement
[08:06] {bruce} cat sounds like typical trader
[08:06] {Threei} trigger is unclear
[08:08] {lumdus} kong invalidated right ?
[08:09] {Threei} yeah
[08:10] {lumdus} good. trying to protect a goo dmorning.
[08:12] {Threei} such approach resonates with me very much
[08:13] {Threei} kind of placing trailing stop on your account
[08:14] {dino} fstr stopped again, off my screen
[08:15] {bruce} rmbs looking weak - short candidate?
[08:17] {BillyD} man, first internet outage amd then power failure....what are the odds
[08:18] {bruce} tough start to day billy
[08:20] {BillyD} anything can and will happen .....just ask dino ;)
[08:21] {bruce} I'm waiting for day when a trade I enter immediately teleports to + $25 billy
[08:21] {BillyD} me too
[08:22] {bruce} course -
[08:22] {bruce} might be long wait
[08:22] {bruce} you running OK now billy?
[08:23] {lumdus} so who told me not to be spoiled ?
[08:24] {bruce} did't hear it from me lumdus
[08:24] {bruce} I'ma fan of being spoiled
[08:24] {bruce} vad - poor billys been out of action
[08:25] {bruce} you need to find him 3 consecutive wins so hes in syn with re3st of us
[08:25] {bruce} thre billy - put your order in for you
[08:25] {bruce} no thanks necessary
[08:25] {Threei} [11:21] {bruce} I'm waiting for day when a trade I enter immediately teleports to + $25 {---- that's when NASDAQ intervenes and breaks the trades
[08:26] {bruce} lol -
[08:26] {bruce} damn - figured it was to good to be true
[08:27] {dptl} o that mr. Bush again
[08:28] {dino} sm l oyog .50
[08:29] {Threei} TRLG interesting
[08:30] {Threei} a bit too thin
[08:31] {bruce} peix may be getting ready to roll over
[08:33] {dino} atro
[08:34] {Roman} stopped MGPI
[08:36] {dino} oyog stopped -.60, slippage
[08:37] {bruce} nasty dino
[08:38] {dino} yeah, nasty day so far for me
[08:38] {dino} i want nov. back
[08:38] {dino} i never saw so many 4, 5, 6+ point drops w/o bounces
[08:38] {bruce} not I - nvoember sucked in this neck of the woods
[08:44] {dino} idxx stopped -.3o
[08:45] {Threei} sorry, back
[08:46] {Threei} cat stepped on power supply button
[08:46] {Threei} sigh'
[08:46] {dptl} lol
[08:46] {bruce} oh
[08:46] {bruce} thought you were just ignoring me
[08:46] {bruce} like usual
[08:46] {Threei} it's funny only if you don't have open position :)
[08:46] {bruce} solf dino
[08:47] {bruce} how is postionh doing?
[08:47] {Threei} had none
[08:48] {bruce} k - goofd
[08:49] {Threei} taped plastic container lid over button
[08:49] {Threei} shgould protect from cat attack
[08:49] {bruce} lol
[08:49] {bruce} thats one mean cat vad
[08:50] {bruce} determined to do you in
[08:50] {Threei} just overly playful
[08:50] {dino} solf dk
[08:50] {bruce} you're probalby not feeding it enough crab
[08:50] {bruce} or trout
[08:52] {bruce} looks like solf going south a bit further dino
[08:53] {dino} y wait for fslr to turn, imo
[09:00] {dino} atro l .84
[09:01] {Threei} NVDA agreesive long if NQ breaks over 2047
[09:01] {Threei} just a scalp
[09:01] {Threei} no price entry point, pure follower play, NVDA isd a little stronger than market
[09:02] {Threei} under .55 not interested anymore, and that's the place for a stop
[09:07] {liranm} are you in?
[09:07] {Threei} ues .63
[09:09] {bruce} out nvda - quick +.10 - thanx vad
[09:09] {Threei} welcome sir
[09:09] {Threei} lunch time scalp...
[09:11] {dino} fmcn l .25, stop .99
[09:12] {dino} atro stop to .28
[09:13] {dino} out .27, +.43
[09:14] {bruce} nice dino
[09:16] {dino} ty
[09:16] {dino} need about 6 more
[09:17] {bruce} thats the spirit
[09:17] {bruce} taking a break
[09:17] {bruce} rest of you -
[09:17] {dino} drys pain
[09:17] {bruce} be sure to harrass vad during my absence
[09:18] {Threei} sigh
[09:18] {bruce} hlps his stay awake
[09:18] {BillyD} lol
[09:31] {Threei} was termpted to try NVDA again off .40 but it lost a pattern of following... so never got any clear read
[09:32] {BillyD} ADPI just won't give me a trusting feel
[09:32] {Threei} nah
[09:32] {Threei} wierdo
[09:32] {BillyD} our kind
[09:32] {BillyD} hehe
[09:32] {Threei} lol
[09:33] {BillyD} watching KONG for possible short off .50
[09:33] {BillyD} depends on this area here
[09:35] {dino} fmcn stopped -.26
[09:36] {dino} atro l .45
[09:40] {magoo} HEY
[09:40] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:40] {Threei} mags!
[09:41] {magoo} man, what a day..what a month..BOTH of my 2 computers down this morn
[09:41] {Threei} jeez
[09:41] {Chaeron} do a trade, buy 2 new ones
[09:41] {Chaeron} :)
[09:42] {Threei} billy, KONG short makes sense with stop just above .50
[09:42] {Threei} on risk alone, worthy trade
[09:42] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[09:43] {magoo} ah nice..slap STILL worx lol
[09:43] {BillyD} here
[09:43] {BillyD} was on phone
[09:43] {BillyD} .47?
[09:43] {Chaeron} glad to be of service
[09:49] {dino} .60 l fslr sm
[09:51] {dino} out 236.90, +1.30
[09:51] {Threei} nice'
[09:53] {dino} lucky
[09:55] {dptl} peix?
[09:56] {dino} l hayn .99
[09:57] {Threei} not much is happening since morning trades
[09:57] {Threei} PEIX is neither here not there
[09:58] {dptl} i see
[09:58] {magoo} u hit any winners in the morning vad?
[09:58] {Threei} 3 I think
[09:58] {Threei} or 4
[09:58] {Threei} you know my math abilities
[09:59] {magoo} u got a second for dcc?
[09:59] {Threei} if I can answer not waking up, sure'
[10:00] {Threei} *DEC NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 19 V 19E
[10:18] {BillyD} anyone getting $NDX quotes w/ Laser
[10:23] {magoo} sorry vad, was on phone with genesis
[10:24] {dino} atro stop to .70
[10:25] {Threei} works as excuse
[10:26] {dino} make it .80
[10:26] {magoo} dcc quick vad
[10:27] {dino} to .94
[10:28] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:28] {magoo} hey dave, u here?
[10:28] {magoo} billy, u here?
[10:29] {BillyD} yes
[10:29] {magoo} u got a minute to dcc ?
[10:29] {BillyD} yes
[10:29] {dino} tbsi wow
[10:30] {dino} atro to .05
[10:34] {dino} sheesh major slippage out atro ave .90, +.45
[10:36] {Threei} getting i9nterested in CSUN
[10:41] {Threei} if holding above 11 and NQ reverse, 11.15 long
[10:42] {Threei} if loses 11, gotta re-evaluate wnd look for another setup
[10:44] {lumdus} csun lost 11 ?
[10:45] {Threei} you don't have real time wuotes? :)
[10:45] {Threei} quotes too
[10:46] {lumdus} i have, asking if it's invalidatet by the dip
[10:47] {liranm} QCOM 39.25 short
[10:47] {Threei} yes
[10:47] {lumdus} thanks
[10:54] {dino} sm l 233.3 fslr
[11:00] {dino} out fslr 234.30, +1.00
[11:06] {magoo} man..bidu dropped 23 points in a few minutes
[11:06] {Threei} ever a narrow one eh
[11:09] {Threei} gosh, no signle setup in a few hours
[11:09] {dino} fslr l 233.50 sm
[11:11] {dino} stopped -1.00
[11:15] {lumdus} 3i, can't have a setup with no movement in market. just nothing happening
[11:15] {liranm} Vad. what do you think QCOM 39.24 short?
[11:15] {Threei} only if NQ breaks down, liranm
[11:16] {Threei} like now
[11:16] {Threei} QCOM is a follower
[11:17] {Threei} if you go for it, keep stop at .33 IMO
[11:17] {liranm} thanks
[11:22] {Threei} no follow-through whatsoever
[11:24] {Threei} FRPT got downgrade with target 3
[11:25] {dino} sm l gs 208.84
[11:31] {BillyD} KONG trying but no pace
[11:32] {Threei} CSUN probably worth a try with .89 stop
[11:35] {liranm} are you in CSUN?
[11:35] {Threei} want to see buying coming in
[11:36] {Threei} if .04 getting hit, will be an indication
[11:36] {Threei} in
[11:37] {Threei} held nicely during these last NQ steps down
[11:37] {Threei} no idea if it wants to recover but if it does, this is the entry
[11:40] {lumdus} csun - not better to wait for .10 break at least ?
[11:40] {Threei} this is different degree of aggressiveness
[11:40] {Threei} no such thing as better or worse in this aspect, it's a personal consideration
[11:41] {BillyD} anticipation trade
[11:41] {Threei} read about trade-offs for different kind of entries, make your decision
[11:41] {Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2007/07/how-aggressive-are-you.html
[11:42] {BillyD} great post
[11:42] {Threei} very deep coma at the moment of writing it vs usual coma,
[11:42] {Threei} contributes greatlty to quality of writing
[11:43] {lumdus} tx. 3i
[11:43] {Threei} sure
[11:55] {Threei} no worky
[11:55] {dptl} stoped
[11:55] {lumdus} no worky = back to sleep
[12:03] {dino} ehth
[12:08] {dptl} nvda?
[12:09] {Threei} why not
[12:09] {Threei} .61 stop
[12:09] {dptl} s .49
[12:11] {Threei} what's woth ADLR
[12:11] {Threei} I see no news
[12:16] {dptl} come on nvda
[12:17] {Threei} tighten to stop to .56
[12:19] {Threei} over 1:1
[12:21] {dptl} out +.16
[12:21] {lumdus} we take the easy money only
[12:22] {Threei} wtg dp
[12:23] {lumdus} + .23 nvda
[12:23] {dptl} was biding .29 originally and change my mind.....damn
[12:23] {lumdus} glad i am scalping today, watched so many stocks. no follow thru anywhere
[12:24] {BillyD} glad you changed your mood :)
[12:39] {Threei} PENTAGON SAYS PLANNING A POTENTIAL $147M SALE TO BRITAIN OF MRAPS BUILT BY FRPT
[12:40] {dino} ehth continues
[12:40] {Threei} nice timing on that downgrade
[12:40] {BillyD} ay it ain't so again
[12:40] {BillyD} s
[12:40] {Threei} stock drops from over 25,
[12:40] {Threei} hits 5,
[12:40] {Threei} they downgrade it with traget 3
[12:40] {Threei} good job
[12:41] {BillyD} yeah, conspiracy,,,,even gov't involved
[12:41] {Threei} lol
[12:41] {BillyD} sheesh took .11 scalp on JADE......20 later
[12:41] {lumdus} 3i, forget trading .. shouldn't this news of the pentagon send it up
[12:42] {Threei} what do you mean forget trading?
[12:42] {Threei} ain't it what we are here for?
[12:43] {lumdus} no, you going to tell me trade the charts. so i said forget trading the chartes, shouldn't this send the stock up ?
[12:43] {Threei} maybe so may be not
[12:44] {Threei} there is no way to know
[12:44] {Threei} see spike on this news,
[12:44] {Threei} from 5.60 to 6.30
[12:44] {BillyD} in Vad's voice: well, I don't know what to say....you see I don't think that way :)
[12:44] {Threei} ?
[12:44] {magoo} laser dave dcc
[12:45] {Threei} then drop from 6.30 to 5.80?
[12:45] {Threei} so tell me... what, news dissipated that minute?
[12:45] {Threei} or lost its significance?
[12:45] {Threei} and yes, I don't think that way
[12:45] {Threei} because it's a wrong way to think
[12:45] {Threei} based on erroneous assumption
[12:45] {lumdus} ok . i train my mind to think like you
[12:46] {Threei} that good news means stock goes up and bad news means stock goes down.
[12:46] {Threei} This is Aristotle logic
[12:46] {Threei} which simply doesn't work in the market
[12:46] {Threei} otherwise anyone would make money
[12:46] {Threei} since such straightforward logic is how majority of people think.
[12:46] {lumdus} ok - got that.
[12:47] {lumdus} done for the day. thank you.
[12:47] {Threei} I cited pages from TTR last week
[12:47] {Threei} that describe exactly this
[12:47] {Threei} please take your time to read them
[12:47] {lumdus} ok
[12:48] {bruce} just about eod
[12:49] {bruce} any stocks on radar for tomorow vad?
[12:49] {Threei} no overnights for sure
[12:49] {Threei} this is not a market where you want to hold anything
[12:49] {bruce} nope
[12:50] {Threei} what shows active in the morning will be on our radars
[12:50] {bruce} fwiw - brcm tanking now
[12:50] {Threei} FRPT will probably be interesting
[12:50] {Threei} some drama in it
[12:51] {Threei} BRCM is seriously weaker than market
[12:51] {Threei} let's keep it in mind for possible short tomorrow
[12:51] {bruce} k
[12:51] {Threei} not sure what's with GTOP
[12:57] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[12:57] {BillyD} thx Vad
[12:57] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[12:57] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:57] {bruce} have a good un
[12:57] {bruce} night all
[12:57] {dptl} have a good evening all see ya tomorrow
[12:58] {dino} later all
Session Time: Mon Dec 17 00:00:00 2007
[05:37] {Threei} 05:22am [CSUN] Reports encouraging initial results from the commercial production of selective emitter solar cells
[05:37] {Threei} 08:13am [EMKR] To Supply 20 Megawatts of Concentrating Solar Photovoltaic Systems in South Koreamore.. - Has received a purchase order to supply 5.7 Megawatts (MW) of EMCORE's Concentrating Photovoltaic (CPV) systems for alternative energy projects in South Korea, along with a letter of intent for follow-on projects of 14.3 MW, expected to be released within the next 6 months. - Financial terms not disclosed08:00am [EMKR] Reports preliminar
[05:43] {BillyD} morning Vad
[05:43] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:44] {Threei} CSUN breaks that C&H but with premarket gap...
[05:44] {BillyD} I see
[05:44] {Threei} not my favorite way
[05:44] {BillyD} always tougher to gauge
[05:45] {Threei} EMKR is funny
[05:45] {Threei} missed earnings
[05:45] {Threei} and announced new contract
[05:45] {BillyD} and gaps up
[05:45] {BillyD} future must be bright
[05:50] {Threei} resisting temptation to jump on CSUN bandwagon
[05:51] {BillyD} I don' have a read on it because not watching close enough
[05:51] {BillyD} gonna see if KONG gets any continuation
[05:51] {Threei} all you need to know about CSUN: it's one of "those"
[05:51] {BillyD} if you seem to get "the" move of the day
[05:52] {Threei} 07:31am [KONG] Guides Q4 R $$18.5 - 19.5M v $18.8Me
[05:52] {Threei} kind of vague guidance
[05:52] {BillyD} yes, but when does it matter....especially if it gets a bit of momo
[05:53] {Threei} yup
[05:53] {Threei} 6 was important resistance
[05:53] {BillyD} yes, had it on radra for the break about 1-2 weeks ago
[05:54] {BillyD} never nade it
[05:54] {BillyD} but hung around when others fell away
[05:56] {BillyD} maybe this is why CSUN held so firm w/ mkt selling friday
[05:57] {BillyD} when we entered
[06:01] {hawkfan4} morning Vad, Billy, rt'ers
[06:01] {Threei} hawk :)
[06:02] {Threei} so, 11.60 is new CSUN support
[06:03] {Threei} hate the fact that closing price is so far away from it, makes support kind of fuzzy
[06:03] {Threei} especially considering natural volatility
[06:05] {BillyD} morning hawk
[06:06] {hawkfan4} :) billy
[06:06] {dino} gm all
[06:06] {dptl} good morning all
[06:06] {BillyD} dino, dp
[06:06] {Threei} dino, dp :)
[06:07] {dino} :)
[06:08] {BillyD} KONG shortable as well Vad
[06:09] {cosmo} KONG pre mkt high = 6.32 fwiw
[06:09] {Threei} EMKR too
[06:09] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:09] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:10] {Threei} CSUN isn't
[06:12] {BillyD} hi liranm
[06:15] {BillyD} dino, more snow this wknd?
[06:16] {Threei} Toronto is hit with 20-26 inches
[06:16] {BillyD} wow
[06:16] {BillyD} heading to Chicago this weekend and hoping no delays with flight
[06:16] {BillyD} it seems everyone getting hit good
[06:17] {Threei} am I glad to be on West coast...
[06:17] {BillyD} everyone except us
[06:17] {BillyD} {G}
[06:18] {cosmo} gee... i like snow too
[06:18] {cosmo} never get any
[06:18] {Threei} we all do, from far away
[06:18] {BillyD} lol
[06:19] {BillyD} had frost on grass the other morning
[06:19] {BillyD} took a picture
[06:19] {cosmo} we have to use cotton on the outdoor displays
[06:20] {BillyD} lol
[06:20] {Threei} yeah, that was the worst of winter I saw so far this year
[06:20] {Threei} daffodils start peeking out
[06:21] {Threei} or crocuses
[06:21] {Threei} or tulips... whatever they are but spring bulbs for sure
[06:21] {Threei} {---- picturing bruce crying
[06:22] {BillyD} where does bruce live....Iceland
[06:23] {Threei} kind of
[06:23] {Threei} Permafrost Central
[06:25] {cosmo} SVNT pre mkt high = 20
[06:26] {Threei} CSUN and CSIQ often show this pattern... deep pullback right before the opn or first minutes after, then huge jump
[06:26] {Threei} {--- hopeful
[06:26] {bruce} I hate dafodills vad
[06:26] {BillyD} CSUN your main one for now right?
[06:27] {Threei} probably
[06:27] {Threei} we all do bruce
[06:27] {Threei} but what can one do... gotta have some
[06:27] {bruce} good ;point
[06:27] {BillyD} where do you live bruce
[06:28] {bruce} could plant some nice dandelions
[06:28] {Threei} oh, those plant themselves
[06:28] {bruce} sasatchewan billy
[06:28] {esemde} morning all
[06:28] {bruce} central canada
[06:28] {BillyD} ok
[06:28] {BillyD} coldville
[06:28] {Threei} happy to report, I have enough of them :)
[06:28] {Threei} ese :)
[06:28] {esemde} CSUN moving again i see
[06:28] {Threei} yeah, had news
[06:28] {bruce} we hqve 200+ days of frost each y4r
[06:29] {BillyD} ouch
[06:29] {Threei} [08:37] {Threei} 05:22am [CSUN] Reports encouraging initial results from the commercial production of selective emitter solar cells
[06:29] {Threei} told ya, Permafrost Central
[06:29] {BillyD} no kidding
[06:29] {Threei} me knows, me lived there
[06:29] {Threei} me hated
[06:30] {bruce} the frost is good for you
[06:30] {bruce} keeps you from overheating
[06:30] {Threei} yup, when I am 1,5K miles away
[06:31] {cosmo} svnt
[06:31] {bruce} \poor vad
[06:32] {bruce} has all that miserable rain to contend with now
[06:32] {Threei} ISLD seems to be offg
[06:32] {Threei} route to ARCA
[06:33] {BillyD} internet went out again,,,maybe they working on it again here :(
[06:33] {Threei} CSUN pullback, watching
[06:33] {Threei} .60 break long
[06:33] {Threei} stop under .50
[06:34] {Threei} 1:1
[06:35] {dptl} mised it
[06:36] {Threei} 09:36:10 ADMIN7 --} (All): INET experiencing problems - please route away for now.
[06:36] {dino} slxp
[06:37] {dptl} thats why i didn't get it prob.
[06:37] {Threei} [09:32] {Threei} ISLD seems to be off
[06:37] {bruce} something wrong - have stuck order here
[06:39] {Threei} on ISLD?
[06:39] {Threei} or INET
[06:40] {bruce} yes
[06:40] {bruce} didn't get filled
[06:40] {Threei} [09:32] {Threei} route to ARCA
[06:40] {bruce} and order wont cancel
[06:42] {Threei} Smart works fine now
[06:42] {dino} cpla l .07
[06:42] {Threei} EMKR .10 break long
[06:42] {Threei} stop under 13
[06:44] {Threei} invalidated
[06:46] {Threei} 11.50 held CSUN, .65 has big offer... break of it is long half lot
[06:47] {Threei} .49 stop
[06:48] {Threei} invalidated
[06:48] {Threei} this group doesn't play ball so far
[06:48] {Threei} Roman's PEIX goes crazy
[06:49] {Roman} MGPI follows
[06:50] {bruce} don't use inet - not working
[06:50] {dino} cpla stopped -.40
[06:50] {Threei} stuck order removed for me bruce
[06:50] {Threei} yours?
[06:51] {bruce} yes
[06:51] {bruce} they just took it out
[06:51] {bruce} called them
[06:51] {bruce} said they're still working on problem
[06:51] {Threei} ok, no harm done
[06:51] {bruce} nope -trade would haveworked
[06:52] {bruce} too ad I couldn't get inor out
[06:52] {Threei} I alerted to switch to ARCA...
[06:52] {dino} cof s .80
[06:52] {bruce} thats way to go
[06:53] {bruce} usually there is a post that somethng is wrong but nottoday
[06:54] {bruce} qh - there is messagenow
[06:55] {Roman} KONG
[06:55] {Roman} nears high
[06:57] {dino} idxx
[06:59] {dino} fstr
[06:59] {BillyD} VAd, any confidence yet in CSUN
[07:00] {Threei} not really
[07:00] {BillyD} k
[07:00] {Threei} kind of sluggish
[07:00] {Threei} no determination
[07:00] {Roman} JASO
[07:00] {Roman} long
[07:00] {Roman} 70.31
[07:00] {Roman} super small
[07:01] {Roman} wide stop
[07:01] {Roman} looking for 1 point
[07:02] {dino} idxx l .00
[07:03] {Threei} RMBS
[07:03] {dino} cof stopped .11, -.31
[07:04] {Threei} .80 break long
[07:04] {Threei} under .65 invalidated
[07:04] {esemde} have been watching that as well Vad
[07:04] {Threei} :)
[07:06] {dptl} got .82
[07:07] {Threei} hold very well while NQ retreats
[07:07] {esemde} rats...take your eyes off something for a second...rmbs
[07:08] {Threei} needs help from market
[07:08] {Roman} stopped JASO -1.1
[07:08] {Threei} .64 stop
[07:09] {Threei} come on NQ, bounce
[07:14] {lumdus} RMBS used to know how to run. commong 1 last stand !
[07:14] {Threei} it wants it very much, just restrained by NQ selloff
[07:15] {lumdus} holding very nice, if nq goes we have a good day
[07:16] {Threei} finally
[07:16] {Threei} 1:1
[07:16] {Threei} half or scalp, whatever you fancy
[07:17] {lumdus} 3i, trying to learn this. but it looks damm strong to just scalp it.
[07:17] {dptl} out +.12 ty
[07:17] {Threei} that's a personal choice
[07:18] {Threei} yw dp
[07:18] {dino} fstyr l .70
[07:18] {dino} wide
[07:18] {Threei} just don't let profitable trade to turn into loss, profits need to be protected
[07:18] {lumdus} ok, got it .70 stop .75 hard stop per your request sir.
[07:18] {dino} fstr
[07:19] {dino} hayn blood
[07:19] {dino} l .75
[07:20] {Threei} dp, what route did you use?
[07:20] {dptl} arca in ana out
[07:21] {Threei} interesting... ARCA rejected my orser with some wierd message, never seen it before
[07:21] {Threei} but Smart worked
[07:21] {Threei} 10:21:27 ADMIN7 --} (All): INET is ok now - we are running the last exection report shortly to determine if any fills took place.
[07:21] {dptl} offered it out on arca with no prob here
[07:22] {bruce} inet back up
[07:22] {lumdus} go rmbs go !
[07:22] {Threei} KONG new high
[07:23] {lumdus} rmbs to the moon
[07:23] {Threei} good boy RMBS
[07:23] {lumdus} out 1/2 rmbs + .35 tx 3i
[07:23] {lumdus} rest stop .85
[07:25] {Threei} welcome sir
[07:29] {BillyD} ADPI player
[07:29] {BillyD} bit jumpy
[07:29] {Threei} what killed it last week?
[07:30] {BillyD} looks a lawsuit against them
[07:30] {Threei} yeah, see it... lost lawsuit, iordered to pay damages
[07:33] {bruce} medx possible pullback long?
[07:34] {Threei} .55 with .47 stop
[07:34] {Threei} wow KONG
[07:35] {BillyD} Vad, u taking MEDX if triggers
[07:35] {bruce} thanx vad
[07:35] {Threei} nah, not my kind
[07:35] {Threei} it's a valid setup, just not what makes me excited
[07:35] {BillyD} ok
[07:37] {Threei} Roman... PEIX .21 worth a try?
[07:37] {Roman} yes
[07:37] {Threei} or ruan its course in your opinion?
[07:37] {Threei} ok, ty
[07:37] {Threei} you had great read on this one so I wanted to verify
[07:39] {dptl} where stop would be on peix?
[07:40] {Threei} 7.10 and 7 are suppoert levels, kind of hard to pick between them
[07:40] {dptl} ok ty
[07:40] {Threei} RMBS 1:2
[07:41] {dptl} in .21
[07:42] {Roman} in MGPI small
[07:42] {Roman} 8.56
[07:43] {Threei} 1:1 PEIX if you placed .09 stop
[07:43] {bruce} 1/2 out peix
[07:43] {dptl} out +.14 ty
[07:43] {lumdus} peix i'll put stop b/e .24 not in the mood for scalps todsay
[07:44] {Threei} bruce and dp show grim determination to make money
[07:44] {Threei} lum shows grim determination to make ALL the money there is
[07:44] {BillyD} rofl
[07:44] {bruce} stop to b/e peix for balance
[07:45] {dino} ha=yn stopped .00, +.25
[07:45] {Threei} KONG, mama mia
[07:45] {bruce} my first trade attempt was svnt vad
[07:45] {Threei} my shame of the day stock
[07:45] {bruce} it went up $1.00 before retracing
[07:45] {BillyD} and mine
[07:46] {dptl} used inet this time worked fine
[07:46] {Threei} what time did you send your order at bruce?
[07:46] {Threei} for SVNT I mean
[07:47] {bruce} 9:33 at 20
[07:47] {bruce} would have filled
[07:48] {Threei} well... I alerted about routing at 9:32... if you just took me off usual ignore, you would have gotten it
[07:48] {bruce} lol
[07:48] {bruce} go ahead
[07:48] {bruce} rub it in
[07:48] {BillyD} he already di bruce :(
[07:48] {BillyD} lol
[07:48] {Threei} oh don't you doubt that for a sec :)
[07:48] {lumdus} peix.. working
[07:49] {Threei} I've been told that there are other joys in life aside from suffering of others
[07:49] {bruce} why don't you mqake up a mess of reak klots?
[07:49] {Threei} but I still question that
[07:49] {BillyD} twisted
[07:50] {BillyD} that closet upbring still has everlasting effect Vad
[07:50] {bruce} yes - twisted all
[07:50] {bruce} I feel sorry for patience - has to put up with this lot
[07:50] * bruce slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[07:51] {Threei} what was that for
[07:51] {bruce} why not?
[07:51] {bruce} spread the fun
[07:51] {Threei} called three winners for you and got trouted?
[07:51] * Threei is looking for excuse to go home
[07:51] {lumdus} you exited trades early :)
[07:52] {Threei} hmmm
[07:52] {bruce} don't want you getting complacent
[07:52] {Threei} ah
[07:52] {Threei} dunno about early
[07:52] {bruce} out balance peix flat
[07:53] {Threei} aside of RMBS, things look scalpy
[07:53] {Threei} and even that one pulls back deeper than I would like for comfort
[07:53] {bruce} says thanks to vad for wins
[07:54] {bruce} just don't let it go to your head
[07:54] {Threei} sigh... can't catch a break
[07:54] {lumdus} 3i, so today is still scalping day ?
[07:54] {Threei} so far, obviously
[07:54] {bruce} typical monday lumdus
[07:54] {lumdus} ok, thank you
[07:55] {Threei} there are always some islands of different trading, RMBS is one of those so far
[07:56] {lumdus} ok, just learning this here
[07:56] {Threei} the rest is pretty much "take money lying on the street and move on"
[07:56] {Threei} mania stocks don't have any oomph today
[07:56] {BillyD} lol.....draw your gun, shhot to kill and look for next target Vad?
[07:56] {Threei} and pattern trading is questionable thing on a holiday week
[07:56] {Threei} eqzaktly billy
[07:56] {BillyD} rofl
[07:57] {Threei} don't laugh, it's not easy to type korrektly with gun in your hand
[07:57] {Threei} (will I make Raven faint today or he is too strong?)
[07:59] {bruce} peix continues
[08:00] {dino} fstr again l .45
[08:01] {lumdus} out peix . wow 3i on a roll today
[08:02] {Threei} wait till I come out of coma
[08:02] {Threei} actually... nah, that when my trading goes down the drain
[08:02] {bruce} hmm- I thpought you usually traded in coma vad?
[08:02] {Threei} yup
[08:03] {bruce} with life support vodka drip
[08:03] {Threei} IV in both hands
[08:04] {Threei} eyeballsmoving under the eyelids signal what to buy and when to sell
[08:04] {bruce} yes -
[08:04] {bruce} just enough room to use mouse
[08:04] {bruce} plus cat running over keyboard
[08:05] {Threei} now you know why my typing is what it is - cats are tough to train, it still misses some keys
[08:05] {bruce} thoughts on kong as pullback entry?
[08:06] {Threei} 6.80 is support for a stop placement
[08:06] {bruce} cat sounds like typical trader
[08:06] {Threei} trigger is unclear
[08:08] {lumdus} kong invalidated right ?
[08:09] {Threei} yeah
[08:10] {lumdus} good. trying to protect a goo dmorning.
[08:12] {Threei} such approach resonates with me very much
[08:13] {Threei} kind of placing trailing stop on your account
[08:14] {dino} fstr stopped again, off my screen
[08:15] {bruce} rmbs looking weak - short candidate?
[08:17] {BillyD} man, first internet outage amd then power failure....what are the odds
[08:18] {bruce} tough start to day billy
[08:20] {BillyD} anything can and will happen .....just ask dino ;)
[08:21] {bruce} I'm waiting for day when a trade I enter immediately teleports to + $25 billy
[08:21] {BillyD} me too
[08:22] {bruce} course -
[08:22] {bruce} might be long wait
[08:22] {bruce} you running OK now billy?
[08:23] {lumdus} so who told me not to be spoiled ?
[08:24] {bruce} did't hear it from me lumdus
[08:24] {bruce} I'ma fan of being spoiled
[08:24] {bruce} vad - poor billys been out of action
[08:25] {bruce} you need to find him 3 consecutive wins so hes in syn with re3st of us
[08:25] {bruce} thre billy - put your order in for you
[08:25] {bruce} no thanks necessary
[08:25] {Threei} [11:21] {bruce} I'm waiting for day when a trade I enter immediately teleports to + $25 {---- that's when NASDAQ intervenes and breaks the trades
[08:26] {bruce} lol -
[08:26] {bruce} damn - figured it was to good to be true
[08:27] {dptl} o that mr. Bush again
[08:28] {dino} sm l oyog .50
[08:29] {Threei} TRLG interesting
[08:30] {Threei} a bit too thin
[08:31] {bruce} peix may be getting ready to roll over
[08:33] {dino} atro
[08:34] {Roman} stopped MGPI
[08:36] {dino} oyog stopped -.60, slippage
[08:37] {bruce} nasty dino
[08:38] {dino} yeah, nasty day so far for me
[08:38] {dino} i want nov. back
[08:38] {dino} i never saw so many 4, 5, 6+ point drops w/o bounces
[08:38] {bruce} not I - nvoember sucked in this neck of the woods
[08:44] {dino} idxx stopped -.3o
[08:45] {Threei} sorry, back
[08:46] {Threei} cat stepped on power supply button
[08:46] {Threei} sigh'
[08:46] {dptl} lol
[08:46] {bruce} oh
[08:46] {bruce} thought you were just ignoring me
[08:46] {bruce} like usual
[08:46] {Threei} it's funny only if you don't have open position :)
[08:46] {bruce} solf dino
[08:47] {bruce} how is postionh doing?
[08:47] {Threei} had none
[08:48] {bruce} k - goofd
[08:49] {Threei} taped plastic container lid over button
[08:49] {Threei} shgould protect from cat attack
[08:49] {bruce} lol
[08:49] {bruce} thats one mean cat vad
[08:50] {bruce} determined to do you in
[08:50] {Threei} just overly playful
[08:50] {dino} solf dk
[08:50] {bruce} you're probalby not feeding it enough crab
[08:50] {bruce} or trout
[08:52] {bruce} looks like solf going south a bit further dino
[08:53] {dino} y wait for fslr to turn, imo
[09:00] {dino} atro l .84
[09:01] {Threei} NVDA agreesive long if NQ breaks over 2047
[09:01] {Threei} just a scalp
[09:01] {Threei} no price entry point, pure follower play, NVDA isd a little stronger than market
[09:02] {Threei} under .55 not interested anymore, and that's the place for a stop
[09:07] {liranm} are you in?
[09:07] {Threei} ues .63
[09:09] {bruce} out nvda - quick +.10 - thanx vad
[09:09] {Threei} welcome sir
[09:09] {Threei} lunch time scalp...
[09:11] {dino} fmcn l .25, stop .99
[09:12] {dino} atro stop to .28
[09:13] {dino} out .27, +.43
[09:14] {bruce} nice dino
[09:16] {dino} ty
[09:16] {dino} need about 6 more
[09:17] {bruce} thats the spirit
[09:17] {bruce} taking a break
[09:17] {bruce} rest of you -
[09:17] {dino} drys pain
[09:17] {bruce} be sure to harrass vad during my absence
[09:18] {Threei} sigh
[09:18] {bruce} hlps his stay awake
[09:18] {BillyD} lol
[09:31] {Threei} was termpted to try NVDA again off .40 but it lost a pattern of following... so never got any clear read
[09:32] {BillyD} ADPI just won't give me a trusting feel
[09:32] {Threei} nah
[09:32] {Threei} wierdo
[09:32] {BillyD} our kind
[09:32] {BillyD} hehe
[09:32] {Threei} lol
[09:33] {BillyD} watching KONG for possible short off .50
[09:33] {BillyD} depends on this area here
[09:35] {dino} fmcn stopped -.26
[09:36] {dino} atro l .45
[09:40] {magoo} HEY
[09:40] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:40] {Threei} mags!
[09:41] {magoo} man, what a day..what a month..BOTH of my 2 computers down this morn
[09:41] {Threei} jeez
[09:41] {Chaeron} do a trade, buy 2 new ones
[09:41] {Chaeron} :)
[09:42] {Threei} billy, KONG short makes sense with stop just above .50
[09:42] {Threei} on risk alone, worthy trade
[09:42] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[09:43] {magoo} ah nice..slap STILL worx lol
[09:43] {BillyD} here
[09:43] {BillyD} was on phone
[09:43] {BillyD} .47?
[09:43] {Chaeron} glad to be of service
[09:49] {dino} .60 l fslr sm
[09:51] {dino} out 236.90, +1.30
[09:51] {Threei} nice'
[09:53] {dino} lucky
[09:55] {dptl} peix?
[09:56] {dino} l hayn .99
[09:57] {Threei} not much is happening since morning trades
[09:57] {Threei} PEIX is neither here not there
[09:58] {dptl} i see
[09:58] {magoo} u hit any winners in the morning vad?
[09:58] {Threei} 3 I think
[09:58] {Threei} or 4
[09:58] {Threei} you know my math abilities
[09:59] {magoo} u got a second for dcc?
[09:59] {Threei} if I can answer not waking up, sure'
[10:00] {Threei} *DEC NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 19 V 19E
[10:18] {BillyD} anyone getting $NDX quotes w/ Laser
[10:23] {magoo} sorry vad, was on phone with genesis
[10:24] {dino} atro stop to .70
[10:25] {Threei} works as excuse
[10:26] {dino} make it .80
[10:26] {magoo} dcc quick vad
[10:27] {dino} to .94
[10:28] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:28] {magoo} hey dave, u here?
[10:28] {magoo} billy, u here?
[10:29] {BillyD} yes
[10:29] {magoo} u got a minute to dcc ?
[10:29] {BillyD} yes
[10:29] {dino} tbsi wow
[10:30] {dino} atro to .05
[10:34] {dino} sheesh major slippage out atro ave .90, +.45
[10:36] {Threei} getting i9nterested in CSUN
[10:41] {Threei} if holding above 11 and NQ reverse, 11.15 long
[10:42] {Threei} if loses 11, gotta re-evaluate wnd look for another setup
[10:44] {lumdus} csun lost 11 ?
[10:45] {Threei} you don't have real time wuotes? :)
[10:45] {Threei} quotes too
[10:46] {lumdus} i have, asking if it's invalidatet by the dip
[10:47] {liranm} QCOM 39.25 short
[10:47] {Threei} yes
[10:47] {lumdus} thanks
[10:54] {dino} sm l 233.3 fslr
[11:00] {dino} out fslr 234.30, +1.00
[11:06] {magoo} man..bidu dropped 23 points in a few minutes
[11:06] {Threei} ever a narrow one eh
[11:09] {Threei} gosh, no signle setup in a few hours
[11:09] {dino} fslr l 233.50 sm
[11:11] {dino} stopped -1.00
[11:15] {lumdus} 3i, can't have a setup with no movement in market. just nothing happening
[11:15] {liranm} Vad. what do you think QCOM 39.24 short?
[11:15] {Threei} only if NQ breaks down, liranm
[11:16] {Threei} like now
[11:16] {Threei} QCOM is a follower
[11:17] {Threei} if you go for it, keep stop at .33 IMO
[11:17] {liranm} thanks
[11:22] {Threei} no follow-through whatsoever
[11:24] {Threei} FRPT got downgrade with target 3
[11:25] {dino} sm l gs 208.84
[11:31] {BillyD} KONG trying but no pace
[11:32] {Threei} CSUN probably worth a try with .89 stop
[11:35] {liranm} are you in CSUN?
[11:35] {Threei} want to see buying coming in
[11:36] {Threei} if .04 getting hit, will be an indication
[11:36] {Threei} in
[11:37] {Threei} held nicely during these last NQ steps down
[11:37] {Threei} no idea if it wants to recover but if it does, this is the entry
[11:40] {lumdus} csun - not better to wait for .10 break at least ?
[11:40] {Threei} this is different degree of aggressiveness
[11:40] {Threei} no such thing as better or worse in this aspect, it's a personal consideration
[11:41] {BillyD} anticipation trade
[11:41] {Threei} read about trade-offs for different kind of entries, make your decision
[11:41] {Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2007/07/how-aggressive-are-you.html
[11:42] {BillyD} great post
[11:42] {Threei} very deep coma at the moment of writing it vs usual coma,
[11:42] {Threei} contributes greatlty to quality of writing
[11:43] {lumdus} tx. 3i
[11:43] {Threei} sure
[11:55] {Threei} no worky
[11:55] {dptl} stoped
[11:55] {lumdus} no worky = back to sleep
[12:03] {dino} ehth
[12:08] {dptl} nvda?
[12:09] {Threei} why not
[12:09] {Threei} .61 stop
[12:09] {dptl} s .49
[12:11] {Threei} what's woth ADLR
[12:11] {Threei} I see no news
[12:16] {dptl} come on nvda
[12:17] {Threei} tighten to stop to .56
[12:19] {Threei} over 1:1
[12:21] {dptl} out +.16
[12:21] {lumdus} we take the easy money only
[12:22] {Threei} wtg dp
[12:23] {lumdus} + .23 nvda
[12:23] {dptl} was biding .29 originally and change my mind.....damn
[12:23] {lumdus} glad i am scalping today, watched so many stocks. no follow thru anywhere
[12:24] {BillyD} glad you changed your mood :)
[12:39] {Threei} PENTAGON SAYS PLANNING A POTENTIAL $147M SALE TO BRITAIN OF MRAPS BUILT BY FRPT
[12:40] {dino} ehth continues
[12:40] {Threei} nice timing on that downgrade
[12:40] {BillyD} ay it ain't so again
[12:40] {BillyD} s
[12:40] {Threei} stock drops from over 25,
[12:40] {Threei} hits 5,
[12:40] {Threei} they downgrade it with traget 3
[12:40] {Threei} good job
[12:41] {BillyD} yeah, conspiracy,,,,even gov't involved
[12:41] {Threei} lol
[12:41] {BillyD} sheesh took .11 scalp on JADE......20 later
[12:41] {lumdus} 3i, forget trading .. shouldn't this news of the pentagon send it up
[12:42] {Threei} what do you mean forget trading?
[12:42] {Threei} ain't it what we are here for?
[12:43] {lumdus} no, you going to tell me trade the charts. so i said forget trading the chartes, shouldn't this send the stock up ?
[12:43] {Threei} maybe so may be not
[12:44] {Threei} there is no way to know
[12:44] {Threei} see spike on this news,
[12:44] {Threei} from 5.60 to 6.30
[12:44] {BillyD} in Vad's voice: well, I don't know what to say....you see I don't think that way :)
[12:44] {Threei} ?
[12:44] {magoo} laser dave dcc
[12:45] {Threei} then drop from 6.30 to 5.80?
[12:45] {Threei} so tell me... what, news dissipated that minute?
[12:45] {Threei} or lost its significance?
[12:45] {Threei} and yes, I don't think that way
[12:45] {Threei} because it's a wrong way to think
[12:45] {Threei} based on erroneous assumption
[12:45] {lumdus} ok . i train my mind to think like you
[12:46] {Threei} that good news means stock goes up and bad news means stock goes down.
[12:46] {Threei} This is Aristotle logic
[12:46] {Threei} which simply doesn't work in the market
[12:46] {Threei} otherwise anyone would make money
[12:46] {Threei} since such straightforward logic is how majority of people think.
[12:46] {lumdus} ok - got that.
[12:47] {lumdus} done for the day. thank you.
[12:47] {Threei} I cited pages from TTR last week
[12:47] {Threei} that describe exactly this
[12:47] {Threei} please take your time to read them
[12:47] {lumdus} ok
[12:48] {bruce} just about eod
[12:49] {bruce} any stocks on radar for tomorow vad?
[12:49] {Threei} no overnights for sure
[12:49] {Threei} this is not a market where you want to hold anything
[12:49] {bruce} nope
[12:50] {Threei} what shows active in the morning will be on our radars
[12:50] {bruce} fwiw - brcm tanking now
[12:50] {Threei} FRPT will probably be interesting
[12:50] {Threei} some drama in it
[12:51] {Threei} BRCM is seriously weaker than market
[12:51] {Threei} let's keep it in mind for possible short tomorrow
[12:51] {bruce} k
[12:51] {Threei} not sure what's with GTOP
[12:57] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[12:57] {BillyD} thx Vad
[12:57] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[12:57] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:57] {bruce} have a good un
[12:57] {bruce} night all
[12:57] {dptl} have a good evening all see ya tomorrow
[12:58] {dino} later all
Friday, December 14, 2007
December 14, 2007
Session Start: Fri Dec 14 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Fri Dec 14 00:00:00 2007
[05:04] {Threei} 07:07am [CSUN] Announces supply agreement with Asola
[05:04] {BillyD} morning
[05:05] {BillyD} ESLR rocking
[05:05] {Threei} morning :)
[05:05] {Threei} 12/13/07 04:13pm [ESLR] Announces a ten-year polysilicon supply agreement with Silpro
[05:05] {BillyD} yeah, they now have a supplier
[05:06] {BillyD} and stock up huge
[05:06] {hawkfan4} eslr great trader last night and this morning
[05:06] {BillyD} morning hawk
[05:06] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:06] {hawkfan4} morning billy :) vad :)
[05:07] {BillyD} u play it last night hawk
[05:08] {BillyD} just when you thought it would stop going up it would spike up .30-.4- it seemed
[05:08] {hawkfan4} yep, and this morning got it 17.20, sold 18.15. can i go back to bed?
[05:08] {BillyD} sure
[05:08] {hawkfan4} lol :)
[05:08] {Threei} nice!
[05:08] {Threei} wtg
[05:09] {BillyD} got a little here at 17.50 and sold balance at .99
[05:09] {hawkfan4} very nice
[05:10] {hawkfan4} solf good start today too, looks like a solar day
[05:10] {BillyD} was to skiddish to buy preopen, couldn't anyway
[05:11] {Threei} CSUN bid
[05:11] {BillyD} .60?
[05:12] {Threei} took selling
[05:12] {BillyD} yes
[05:12] {Threei} looks like accumulating
[05:12] {BillyD} see how eslr jumps
[05:15] {BillyD} u n CSUN Vad
[05:15] {Threei} half
[05:15] {Threei} .51
[05:21] {Threei} RIGL... lol
[05:22] {BillyD} another one that moved in .50 increments in ah
[05:22] {BillyD} vol was lower on it
[05:22] {BillyD} couldn't risk it personally
[05:25] {BillyD} your stop .30 on CSUN
[05:25] {Threei} I am not sure it's a play for stop or profit at this point
[05:25] {Threei} it's securing half position to add later on to full,
[05:26] {Threei} either on deeper pullback or on break
[05:26] {Threei} hopefully on pullback
[05:26] {Threei} as hawk said, it shapes up as possible solar day
[05:28] {BillyD} got it
[05:30] {Threei} *NOV CONSUMER PRICE INDEX M/M: 0.8% V 0.6%E; CPI EX FOOD_ENERGY M/M: 0.3% V 0.2%E; CPI NSA: V 209.800E
[05:36] {Threei} not deep enough to add second half... and not sure I trust break
[05:36] {Threei} most likely will be sitting with half still
[05:37] {BillyD} nice bids
[05:37] {BillyD} some assurance
[05:37] {Threei} will see... CSUN is tough nut to crack
[05:37] {BillyD} you are in good company
[05:43] {Threei} offering .85
[05:44] {esemde} morning all.....sooooo....... the senate passes the renewable enery bill eh....solars here we come
[05:44] {Threei} ese :)
[05:45] {Threei} if not taken at .85 and .70 gets hit will bail and look for reenter
[05:47] {Threei} c'mon, one more push
[05:47] {Threei} I mean two
[05:48] {BillyD} c'mon for Vad
[05:48] {Threei} .70 strenghtened
[05:52] {Threei} ok, out
[05:52] {Threei} +.19
[05:53] {BillyD} looked good for a min
[05:53] {BillyD} still profit
[05:53] {BillyD} watching CRDC today
[05:58] {BillyD} BMRN non sto[
[05:58] {BillyD} stop
[06:02] {dino} gm all
[06:03] {Threei} dino :)
[06:05] {BillyD} hi dino
[06:06] {dino} gm guys
[06:12] {esemde} morning dino
[06:12] {esemde} Vad do you trade pre market often...
[06:12] {Threei} when see something irresistible
[06:13] {Threei} wouldn't say it's regular occurence
[06:13] {esemde} like CSUN.....
[06:14] {Threei} this is for you:
[06:14] {Threei} ESE
[06:14] {Threei} PRICE TARGET RAISED TO $46 FROM $40 AT ROBERT BAIRD
[06:14] {dptl} good morning all
[06:14] {esemde} is that CSUN?....
[06:14] {Threei} dp :)
[06:14] {esemde} dp
[06:14] {Threei} no, for ESE
[06:15] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:15] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:15] {esemde} lir....baby...hows it goin
[06:16] {BillyD} baby?
[06:16] {liranm} baby?
[06:16] {BillyD} lol
[06:16] {dptl} lol
[06:16] {esemde} musical term.......
[06:16] {BillyD} u scaring me ese
[06:16] {esemde} friendly greeting
[06:16] {liranm} my wife will not like it
[06:17] {Threei} lol
[06:17] {BillyD} for a moment, I thought is Liranm a woman
[06:17] {BillyD} no offense
[06:17] {esemde} looks like i've stired up a controversy.....
[06:17] {BillyD} again
[06:18] {BillyD} :)
[06:20] {BillyD} CSUN holds well so far Vad
[06:21] {BillyD} where is magoo
[06:22] {BillyD} snowed in?
[06:22] {Threei} magoo is busy writing fake letters from Santa
[06:22] {Threei} I sent my request to Santa, for tomorrow's WSJ subscription for 2008
[06:22] {BillyD} or pleading his case for good behavior
[06:22] {magoo} morning
[06:22] {Threei} got answer yesterday, saying:
[06:23] {magoo} was plowing snow all morn
[06:23] {Threei} "aren't you greedy one"
[06:23] {BillyD} lol
[06:23] {Threei} and for some reason signed magoo, crossed out and replaced by Truly Yours, Santa
[06:23] {Threei} oh hi magoo :)
[06:25] {esemde} my kids got one of them letters too
[06:25] {magoo} he he
[06:25] {esemde} except signed "Grinch"
[06:26] {magoo} i caught some ESLR afterhours, it went 18.40 area i believe
[06:26] {Threei} one of this scandalous latest ones ese??
[06:26] {Threei} or normal?
[06:27] {magoo} vad, i gotta motivate u
[06:27] {Threei} uh oh
[06:27] {magoo} i missed first three days, need some moolah
[06:28] * Threei ducks
[06:28] {lumdus} 3i, dcc
[06:28] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[06:33] {Roman} ENER long setup
[06:33] {Threei} BMRN small shares long 36 break
[06:33] {Threei} stop under .75
[06:34] {Roman} in ENER small
[06:34] {Roman} 33.35
[06:34] {Roman} may add small on pullback
[06:34] {Threei} {ENER} what's pullback?
[06:35] {esemde} CSUN blast off approaching
[06:35] {Roman} out ENER +.58
[06:35] {esemde} bstop .66
[06:36] {magoo} in bm,rn agg
[06:36] {magoo} .90
[06:36] {esemde} in .68
[06:36] {Threei} come on 36, give up
[06:37] {Roman} FCeL
[06:37] {Roman} long setup
[06:37] {Threei} nice CSUN ese
[06:37] {esemde} out CSUN .94 +.28
[06:38] {esemde} nice way to start the morning....now i have to go and do another show this morning
[06:38] {Threei} finally
[06:38] {magoo} i was kickin it vad
[06:39] {Threei} good job
[06:39] {esemde} i did that with a 1/2 lot Vad..... in your estimation would that be proper risk management
[06:39] {Threei} very much so
[06:39] {esemde} tks
[06:39] {Roman} magoo, where are u waiting on BMRN ?
[06:39] {Threei} CSUN deserves respect risk control wise
[06:39] {esemde} when do you tend to use a full lot
[06:40] {Threei} whewn it's not that jumpy and I can count on no or minimal slippage if getting stopped
[06:40] {Threei} BMRN:
[06:41] {Threei} it has all the markings of these runners of last days that just won't quit moving
[06:41] {Threei} it's at 1:1 now,
[06:41] {BillyD} took scalp on it Vad
[06:41] {BillyD} ty
[06:41] {dptl} out +.23 bmrn ty
[06:41] {Threei} make up your mind whether you want to take easy money or try and exploit this manner of them to go and go and go
[06:42] {magoo} me too, out .23 TY
[06:42] {bruce} 1/2 out brmn +.40
[06:42] {Threei} out half .35
[06:42] {Threei} FCEL moving
[06:42] {Threei} nice one Roman
[06:42] {Threei} (again)
[06:43] {Roman} CSIQ high
[06:44] {Threei} look at RIGL to see what I am trying to say on BMRN
[06:44] {Threei} of course noone knows if it has same chance,
[06:44] {Threei} but it's very similar to how RIGL looked yesterday morning
[06:45] {Threei} and you know how at the end of the day you sigh and say "why didn't I buy and hold"
[06:45] {lumdus} if we only know
[06:45] {Threei} or worse yet, "why didn't you tell us to buy and hold"
[06:45] {Threei} so here is your chance
[06:46] {Threei} solar day alright
[06:46] {Threei} scanner is full of solar stocks
[06:46] {magoo} bmrn solar?
[06:47] {Roman} ENER is new solar discovered play
[06:47] {esemde} indeed Vad indeed
[06:47] {Roman} going to be active
[06:47] {Threei} no magoo
[06:47] {Threei} lost 36, out
[06:48] {lumdus} what a deep
[06:49] {Roman} HOKU
[06:49] {Roman} long setup
[06:49] {Roman} PEIX long setup small
[06:50] {Roman} in HOKU small 11.40
[06:50] {Roman} no chasing
[06:51] {Roman} took PEIX small 6.42
[06:52] {Threei} lol
[06:52] {Threei} 09:51:40 ADMIN7 --} (All): EDGE is having problems with orders, we cant reach them, no one picking up phone.
[06:52] {BillyD} lol...again
[06:52] {Threei} ,EDGE rep, covering his face with both hands} ah leave alone
[06:52] {dptl} lol
[06:53] {cosmo} ESLR weak
[06:53] {BillyD} say the least cosmo
[06:53] {Threei} yeah but do you dare short it
[06:53] {Roman} pit HOKU +.32
[06:53] {BillyD} no
[06:53] {Roman} DNDN radar
[06:53] {cosmo} or find a bottom
[06:54] {liranm} Roman is on fire today, pity I didn't catch anything
[06:54] {bruce} exel vad?
[06:54] {BillyD} 1:30 before open ESLR dropped }40 in flash
[06:55] {Threei} 07:01am [EXEL] GlaxoSmithKline exercises its option to further develop and commercialize EXEL's anti-cancer inhibitor XL880
[06:55] {Threei} trades kind of sporadically
[06:55] {Threei} dunno
[06:55] {bruce} k - passing thanx
[06:56] {Threei} here is the thing about a lot of these stocks you look at and ask bruce:
[06:56] {Threei} they don't trade in a normal manner, no stream of prints
[06:56] {Threei} they sit fopr a while with no trades,
[06:57] {Threei} then some come,
[06:57] {Threei} stop trading again
[06:57] {Threei} this doesn't allow for one of major components of our mehtod of reading,
[06:57] {Threei} which is pace changes
[06:57] {Threei} stock moves up, pace increases, moves down - pace goes down - you get your indication
[06:58] {Threei} on chart you can see it as volume on advance vs volume of pullback
[06:58] {bruce} k
[06:58] {Threei} and when they trade like I described, with no activity, then flurry of prints, then no activity again... you just don't have a way to see which direction is the path of least resistance
[06:59] {bruce} got you - looking for clearer voolume price pattern
[06:59] {Threei} just trying to give you an additional filter to stop wasting time and ebergy on those "can do anything" useless pieces of whatever
[07:00] {bruce} thanx
[07:00] {Threei} keep EXEL on your screen for 5 minutes, watch T&S, you will recognize this kind immediately after this exercise
[07:00] {bruce} no point in looking at coin flip trades
[07:01] {BillyD} coin flip odds better
[07:01] {Threei} no, but there is a p;oint in watching it for a while to make it a recognizable one
[07:01] {Roman} CTDC high
[07:01] {Threei} kind of "adding a tool to your arsenal"
[07:01] {Roman} kinda early but also believe has a Solar connection
[07:02] {cosmo} solar rise in the morning
[07:02] {Threei} process of learning is a process of collecting recognizable situations and shaping up your responses
[07:02] {Threei} so there... one more
[07:02] {Threei} and cosmo... kind of obvious but still good one :)
[07:03] {Roman} VLNC radar, slow one but has some room for upside
[07:03] {cosmo} i always like to make sure tho
[07:07] {Roman} ASTI
[07:07] {Roman} has some room
[07:09] {Threei} CSUN holding rather well
[07:09] {Threei} if not losing .25 has a chance
[07:09] {Threei} break area is .50
[07:09] {magoo} BMRN feels like 37
[07:10] {magoo} in now .33
[07:10] {magoo} fast
[07:10] {magoo} as rtyped
[07:10] {Threei} but aggressive entry with tight stop is better on it yes
[07:11] {Threei} lost .25... no read for now
[07:11] {dino} l drys .95
[07:13] {Threei} OK, CSUN: half lot long .32
[07:13] {Threei} stop under .20
[07:14] {Threei} look to exit half on spike above .40
[07:14] {magoo} in csun
[07:15] {Threei} 1:1
[07:15] {magoo} out here .47 TY nice
[07:15] {dptl} half out .46
[07:15] {Threei} half out, stop to b/e
[07:15] {Threei} brealk or no break?
[07:15] {magoo} half out of a half lot??
[07:16] {Threei} how is it a contradiction?
[07:16] {BillyD} cable company doing maintenance , lost phones and internet
[07:16] {BillyD} luckily not in anything
[07:17] {Threei} break it is
[07:17] {dptl} got scared sold other half
[07:17] {bruce} don't they give you notice billy?
[07:18] {Threei} you are easy to scare dp
[07:18] {BillyD} nol, they were suppose to cal 48 hour advance notice
[07:18] {dptl} well sometimes
[07:18] {Threei} stop to .34
[07:18] {BillyD} got back up ISP in case, but no phone lines
[07:19] {bruce} that sucks - not bothering to give notice
[07:19] {cosmo} forces of nature i say
[07:20] {Threei} JASO lost its mind
[07:20] {Threei} (again)
[07:21] {BillyD} anyhting can happen
[07:21] {BillyD} and it does lol
[07:22] {Threei} out balance CSUN
[07:23] {Threei} CSIQ trying
[07:23] {lumdus} we in csiq ?
[07:23] {Threei} me no
[07:23] {Threei} observing it
[07:24] {Threei} calling attention to it
[07:24] {Threei} if we were in you would see me posting setup on it, with trigger and stop
[07:25] {Threei} .25 resisatnce to break, 24 support... I am not keen on breaks on this one, pullbacks work better with it
[07:25] {lumdus} thank you.
[07:25] {Threei} I'd try to bid half lot at .75
[07:25] {Threei} with top under .50
[07:26] {Threei} if no fill, so be it
[07:26] {Threei} I prefer to miss this one rather than enter too high, it tends to pull back too deep for comfort
[07:27] {BillyD} ESLR looks sneaky
[07:28] {cosmo} snakey
[07:28] {BillyD} tried to buy at 17 and no connection to Laser order server
[07:31] {Threei} EMKR half lot long .70 if holding above .60
[07:33] {Threei} CALYON RAISED ESLR TO BUY FROM ADD, PRICE TARGET: $22 (TIMING UNCERTAIN)
[07:34] {Threei} still in BMRN magoo?
[07:34] {magoo} yes
[07:34] {Threei} EMKR, if losing .60 once more forget break
[07:35] {dino} gs stop from yesterday to 212.49
[07:35] {Roman} CPSL trying too
[07:35] {magoo} was waiting .83, only got to .73 dammit
[07:36] {dino} out gs +5.99
[07:36] {dptl} nice one Dino
[07:37] {dino} ty
[07:37] {magoo} now stopped for loss..IDIOT..should stick to scalpin
[07:38] {dino} out drys .19, +.24 toughy today
[07:38] {dptl} emkr...held
[07:40] {Roman} FRPT bouncing nicely
[07:40] {Roman} no clear entry
[07:40] {Roman} i think SPAR should follow
[07:41] {dptl} got.73 emkr
[07:41] {Threei} EMKR stop either .59 or .54, depending on your risk tolerance, both are valid
[07:42] {Roman} watching CHNR with other china plays
[07:43] {magoo} emkr entry was?
[07:43] {Threei} .70
[07:43] {dptl} .70
[07:44] {Roman} long SPAR
[07:45] {Threei} 1:1 EMKR
[07:45] {Roman} 7.20 area
[07:46] {Roman} FFHL think
[07:46] {Roman} radar
[07:46] {Roman} spiker
[07:46] {magoo} bmrn gonna go..back in .29
[07:47] {magoo} risky..stopped mealready
[07:48] {Roman} CHNR
[07:48] {Roman} in super small
[07:48] {magoo} 35.98 stiop
[07:48] {Threei} ESLR pullback entry .51 if holding above .35
[07:50] {dino} meli
[07:52] {magoo} eslr valid still?
[07:52] {Threei} only if not losing .35 anymore
[07:52] {Threei} if it does, interested closer to 17
[07:52] {dptl} stoped emkr
[07:53] {magoo} k
[07:54] {Roman} DNDN
[07:54] {Roman} mentioned on CNBC
[07:55] {lumdus} where would the stop be for eslr if enter
[07:55] {lumdus} forget it lost .35
[07:56] {Threei} if it would, .35 was defined as indicative support
[07:56] {Threei} so stop would be .34
[07:56] {lumdus} ok, maybe here is good
[07:56] {lumdus} in 17.03
[07:56] {bruce} looking like a deep pullback kinda day
[07:57] {Roman} DNDN Dendreon follow up: Jon Najarian highlights stock on CNBC -- says it's going a lot higher, into the "double digits" quickly (7.14 +0.15)
[07:58] {Threei} protect profit lum
[07:59] {lumdus} thank you
[08:00] {dino} bmrn s .15, stop .46
[08:03] {dino} ocnf l .63, stop .37
[08:03] {esemde} what does DNDN do again...anyone know
[08:04] {Threei} drugs
[08:04] {Threei} mostly not approved ones
[08:04] {BillyD} story of most of them
[08:04] {BillyD} they can be good traders though
[08:05] {esemde} this is the one one that went $20 in one day a while ago ....
[08:05] {esemde} one of you caught it on a short on the way down if i remember.....
[08:09] {magoo} what u looking at vad? interested in ESLR?
[08:09] {Threei} not here
[08:09] {Threei} bounce off 17 was it, one that lumdus caught
[08:10] {Threei} next indication on it depends on whether it's able to hold 17
[08:10] {Threei} high is a bit too far from support for now, 30 cents
[08:10] {Threei} so need some new consolidation
[08:11] {Threei} however magoo,
[08:11] {Threei} I have just the thing fro you to endure the lack of activity:
[08:11] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:11] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:11] {Threei} feeling better?
[08:12] {Threei} ESLR tests
[08:12] {Threei} shortable btw
[08:12] {Roman} FRPT topped
[08:12] {Roman} out 1/2 SPAR +.23
[08:12] {Threei} .90 short
[08:13] {Threei} 17.01 stop
[08:13] {Roman} out CHNR +.75
[08:13] {Threei} invalidated
[08:13] {Threei} scorching hot Roman
[08:13] {Threei} aggressive ESLR short here
[08:13] {Roman} LUNA thin
[08:13] {Threei} with .16 stop
[08:13] {Roman} spiker
[08:16] {Threei} 1:1 ESLR cover half
[08:16] {Threei} stop to .06
[08:18] {Threei} NQ drop here should kill ESLR
[08:18] {Threei} in any case, stop is just couple cents now
[08:20] {Threei} stopped
[08:21] {magoo} strong bounce
[08:22] {magoo} dndn hangin around
[08:22] {magoo} anyone in it?
[08:22] {BillyD} not here
[08:25] {magoo} 8 in its range
[08:26] {dino} bstop to .85 bmrn
[08:26] {dino} stopped +.30
[08:28] {esemde} Have a great weekend everyone...i'm off
[08:28] {magoo} u s es
[08:29] {dino} later ese
[08:29] {Threei} take care ese
[08:31] {bruce} bye ese
[08:31] {dino} airm
[08:32] {bruce} frpt
[08:33] {dino} reading my mind bruce
[08:33] {bruce} lol
[08:38] {dptl} Vad,how about emkr of .68?
[08:39] {Threei} nah
[08:40] {dptl} ok
[08:41] {dino} missed frpt
[08:42] {dino} luna
[08:43] {dptl} means moon in russian (luna)
[08:46] {dino} airm l .01, stop lod
[08:49] {BillyD} gotta run out for an hour
[08:50] {magoo} goodd luck
[08:50] {dino} luna, bear in the big blue house
[08:52] {dptl} i am slowly going into coma mode
[08:53] {dino} same here
[08:54] {dptl} well at least Magoo gonna serve beer for you soon
[08:56] {Threei} going into coma?
[08:56] {Threei} you mean you actually ever come out of it?
[08:56] {dptl} for short time Vad
[08:56] {Threei} not me
[09:04] {dino} simo
[09:04] {dino} in 4-5 hours dp
[09:05] {dino} break of .50 bmti s
[09:05] {dino} hbio
[09:05] {dino} b/o 5 bucks
[09:06] {Threei} HOLDER SKYSTONE REPORTS 15.4% STAKE AND SAYS HAS MADE A $5/SHR OFFER FOR HBIO
[09:10] {Threei} watch LUNA for bounce here
[09:10] {magoo} u in?
[09:10] {Threei} not yet
[09:11] {magoo} let me know when
[09:11] {Threei} won't do you any good, too thin
[09:11] {dino} simo s .30, wide
[09:12] {Threei} by the time I post price is not likely to be available
[09:12] {Threei} in
[09:12] {Threei} .10
[09:12] {magoo} in .09 lol
[09:12] {Threei} just a scalp IMO
[09:13] {magoo} 37 BMRN
[09:13] {magoo} f'er
[09:13] {magoo} new it
[09:15] {bruce} you buy 2k vad?
[09:16] {Threei} on LUNA??
[09:16] {bruce} yes - saw 2 k entry - seemed like a lot
[09:16] {magoo} prob roman lol
[09:16] {Threei} I like to think of myself as sane
[09:17] {Threei} vould be a stretch of course
[09:17] {Threei} but there are limits to asny stretch
[09:17] {magoo} ugly picture..watching vad stretch
[09:18] {bruce} k -
[09:18] {magoo} where u waitring vad?
[09:18] {Threei} not sure yet
[09:19] {Threei} will see how determined it is
[09:19] {magoo} ok, let me know so i can under cut your offer ok?
[09:19] {Threei} great
[09:19] {dptl} lol
[09:19] {Threei} 10.50 then
[09:19] {magoo} just by a pemnny
[09:19] {magoo} .49
[09:19] {Threei} go ahead and undercut me at 10.49
[09:20] {Threei} ARCA reserve at .17
[09:20] {Threei} that could be your 2K buyer bruce
[09:21] {Threei} if so, sold 1200 already
[09:25] {bruce} big moves meli dino
[09:28] {dino} yes
[09:28] {dino} think we missed it
[09:29] {magoo} out luna .10..no like
[09:29] {bruce} lol - I sure did
[09:29] {magoo} sh bidu 393.04
[09:30] {dino} qelp
[09:30] {BillyD} back
[09:32] {dino} you must be tired
[09:32] {BillyD} lol
[09:32] {BillyD} do you and magoo practice your comedy routine together
[09:33] {dino} lol
[09:33] {BillyD} lol
[09:34] {dino} layn blood
[09:36] {magoo} coveredc here 392
[09:36] {magoo} 1.03 200 shgares
[09:40] {bruce} somethings wrong vad
[09:40] {Threei} with the world?
[09:40] {bruce} that too
[09:41] {Threei} I came to this conclusion when heard how Santa got forbidden to say ho ho ho
[09:41] {Threei} as offensive to women
[09:41] {bruce} lol
[09:41] {dptl} lol
[09:41] {bruce} sorry - not supposed to laugh at that
[09:41] {Threei} and it got confirmed when activsts said Santa has to losde weight in order to be a worthy role model
[09:43] {Threei} and in case you think I made that up...
[09:43] {Threei} http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Santas_warned_ho_ho_ho_offensive_to_11142007.html
[09:44] {dino} ocnf stopped -.28
[09:44] {Threei} http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=491770&in_page_id=1770
[09:44] {bruce} he should proabably get rid of those smelly reindeer too
[09:44] {BillyD} it is animal cruelty
[09:46] {bruce} indded billy
[09:47] {bruce} plus they're hard on roof shingles
[09:47] {dino} cov simo .06, +.24
[09:49] {dino} "they" have to ruin everything
[09:50] {bruce} "blame canada - blame canada"
[09:50] {bruce} learned that in the "south park movie
[09:52] {BillyD} DNDN activity
[09:54] {BillyD} Vad take a look
[09:54] {BillyD} if holds here and takes .60 offer?
[09:55] {Threei} half lot...
[09:55] {BillyD} k
[09:57] {BillyD} in .61
[09:58] {dptl} in.62
[09:58] {bruce} same billy
[09:58] {BillyD} .62 gotta lift
[09:58] {magoo} in .60
[09:59] {BillyD} I am keeping tight stop by feel
[09:59] {dptl} stop under .50?
[09:59] {BillyD} for sure
[10:00] {Threei} finally
[10:01] {Threei} questionable enthusiasm
[10:01] {BillyD} yup
[10:01] {dino} airm stopped w/slip, .55 ave - .46
[10:01] {magoo} out flat
[10:02] {BillyD} out 1/2 -.02
[10:07] {BillyD} out rest -.06
[10:09] {bruce} out -.08 for me
[10:09] {bruce} good trade control mags
[10:10] {dptl} still in
[10:10] {bruce} break time
[10:10] {BillyD} it may hold here
[10:11] {magoo} dndn u mean?
[10:13] {magoo} treacherous stock, easily drop in .38 area
[10:15] {dptl} stopped dndn
[10:17] {dino} rams
[10:17] {BillyD} EDGE gonna get the boot if it doesn't get its technical issues resolved
[10:17] {magoo} worthless
[10:18] {BillyD} has to be very annoying for everyone
[10:18] {BillyD} especially the guy who won't answer the phone...hehe
[10:18] {magoo} who the heck uses it anyway?
[10:19] {BillyD} ISLD route for me
[10:19] {magoo} ESLR l 17
[10:19] {Threei} EMKR JEFFERIES RAISES PRICE TARGET TO $18 FROM $13
[10:19] {magoo} fresh?
[10:20] {Threei} 13:18
[10:20] {magoo} u mean 18:13
[10:20] {dino} rams l .20
[10:21] {lumdus} usually when such news comes ou we get a pop ?
[10:22] {BillyD} upgrades/downgrades always questionable
[10:22] {Threei} absolutely not necessary lum
[10:23] {Threei} very much depends on market mood
[10:23] {Threei} in a strong bull, even simple mention can take a stock higher
[10:23] {lumdus} now, everyone out to lunch mabye when they come back we will see it move
[10:24] {Threei} FYI... about 80% of upgrades are being issued in the upper 20% of stock's range... visa-versa for downgrades
[10:24] {Threei} that's official stats from 2002
[10:25] {magoo} uh vad...this is 2008 bro
[10:25] {Threei} so judge for yourself how effective/truthful those are
[10:25] {liranm} Vad, what is your opinion about trading in launch time?
[10:25] {BillyD} so its true, "they" exist
[10:25] {magoo} long eslr off 17
[10:26] {Threei} it's not "mine" liranm, it's very well known... lunch time equals decreased activity, less volume, less pattern-following, more erratic moves
[10:26] {lumdus} lunch time is to eat not to trade. that simple
[10:26] {BillyD} lol
[10:26] {liranm} but I see that you trade launch time every day
[10:27] {Threei} compare activity
[10:27] {Threei} how many calls on average in the morning vs lunch time
[10:27] {Threei} 5:1?
[10:30] {dptl} where is youe stop Magoo?
[10:30] {magoo} .17 cents
[10:30] {Threei} - Jefferies says the terrestrial Solar Concentrated Photo Voltaics (CPV) business is poised for growth in 2008
[10:30] {Threei} - note: EMKR is scheduled to report earnings on Monday morning
[10:31] {magoo} they are pumping it
[10:31] {lumdus} who's pumping it ? i'll go for the rid
[10:31] {dino} artw
[10:31] {Threei} EMKR misses on Monday, it goes to 9 in a blink of eye
[10:32] {lumdus} ok, so just quick trade for lunch money - got it
[10:32] {Threei} beats, opens at 15
[10:32] {Threei} pretty much liranm, follow through is weak so scalps are way to go
[10:32] {lumdus} well, if they just got upgraded chance they beat
[10:32] {Threei} huh?
[10:33] {Threei} how do you figure?
[10:33] {Threei} you haven't seen upgrade followed by huge miss and harrowing haircut?
[10:33] {lumdus} you think they upgrade without knowing anything ?
[10:34] {Threei} that's fundamentally wrong way to approach it lum
[10:34] {lumdus} ok. tha't for the correction
[10:34] {Threei} forget entire universe of reasoning behind the company
[10:34] {Threei} that's for investors
[10:35] {Threei} trade off stock's reaction
[10:35] {lumdus} ok, forgotten . i hear you loud a clear
[10:35] {Threei} you need profit from stock movement - read stock movement
[10:35] {magoo} thats cause hes yelling at u
[10:35] {Threei} you need to be right about company deveopments - read prospects and statements and industry news
[10:36] {lumdus} that's fine, haven't been in the market for a good 3 years. so i need to remember it all
[10:36] {Threei} those two realities are not necessary connected directly
[10:36] {magoo} she was so cold.....all the salt in world could not melt her heart
[10:37] {BillyD} different twilight zones lum
[10:37] {magoo} .83 is my stop, was not hit
[10:37] {magoo} saw .85
[10:37] {Threei} FED'S BERNANKE: FED IS STUDYING THE NEED FOR MORTGAGE BROKER COMPENSATION DISCLOSURE
[10:37] {dptl} no...still in
[10:37] {BillyD} it hit .83
[10:38] {BillyD} barely
[10:38] {magoo} i no see thatr
[10:38] {magoo} i manually stoppin
[10:38] {BillyD} look at chart
[10:38] {magoo} NO
[10:38] {lumdus} 3i, so help me here i am in emkr 12.53
[10:39] {Threei} I can't
[10:39] {Threei} I see no play here
[10:39] {lumdus} oh, thanks partner
[10:39] {Threei} it can do anything
[10:39] {BillyD} lum, set stop or sell it
[10:39] {lumdus} ok, stop 12.54
[10:40] {lumdus} it felt like it needed me in the stock
[10:40] {BillyD} peaceful eh :)
[10:40] {BillyD} lol
[10:40] {dino} artw l .75, risky
[10:40] {magoo} offer it out LUm'
[10:42] {magoo} u got a good scalp..do not give it back imho
[10:44] {dino} out artw .15, +.40
[10:44] {magoo} magoo kickin punchin biting pullin ESLR
[10:44] {lumdus} a few cents i got it
[10:46] {magoo} out .17 + .17 FL
[10:47] {BillyD} nice one guys
[10:48] {dino} out ra,ms +.20 at .40
[10:49] {magoo} sigh..i wish vad would contribute {as i run to hide under rock lol}
[10:49] {BillyD} magoo, do you do motocycly jumping/flips etc
[10:50] {BillyD} watching some guys on ESPN and amazed
[10:50] {Threei} magoo, you almost did it
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] {Threei} but I kept myself restrained... trout is back to holster
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] {Threei} but holster is unbuttoned
[10:50] {Chaeron} there you go Threei... I had mine handy
[10:50] {BillyD} rfol
[10:50] {Threei} thank you Chaeron
[10:51] {Threei} how about that, EMKR?
[10:51] * Chaeron changes his nick to
[10:51] {Chaeron} Quickdraw
[10:51] {Chaeron} *sigh*
[10:51] {Chaeron} (dang fat fingers)
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:53] {Chaeron} :)
[10:53] {lumdus} funny place. same joke about this trout
[10:53] * BillyD slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:53] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[10:54] {BillyD} lum, do you know how to trout someone
[10:54] {Threei} TTR, page 11-13, then 44 and on - everything you need to know about trading vs upgrades, downgrades and all this chaff
[10:56] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:56] {lumdus} ouch it hurts. be kind
[10:57] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:57] {magoo} hoe bout now?
[10:57] {BillyD} fight back lum
[10:57] {Threei} magoo? kind? now, that's something I hopew never to see
[10:57] {magoo} u pushing your luck little man {soup nazi lol}
[10:57] {Chaeron} will mean the end of age
[10:58] {Threei} you mean end of era
[10:58] {magoo} u mean end of days
[10:58] {Threei} magoo, you mean he actually meant something?
[10:58] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:59] {magoo} i mean he meant what you mean i think
[10:59] {Threei} {--- going to monastery for the next three years to ponder it all
[10:59] {magoo} with vodka??
[10:59] {Threei} and chaeron's trout
[11:00] {lumdus} lots of vodka
[11:00] {magoo} i was out drinking in snowstorm last nite...woke up, bottle of vodka on my night stand and my freezer was wringing from cell phone
[11:00] {magoo} CSUN activity
[11:01] {magoo} BMRN
[11:01] {Threei} {--- extneds monastery term to 5 years to ponder latest magoo statement
[11:03] {Threei} 11.57 that stopped CSUN today is exact high on the last spike, 12/o5
[11:03] {Threei} and just 4 cents diff with one before that, 10.29
[11:03] {Threei} all 3 together formed C&H on daily
[11:03] {magoo} enough with commentary and pick a winner {as magoo dives foir cover}
[11:03] {Threei} volume configures right
[11:04] {Threei} OK, that did it
[11:04] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {magoo} ROFLOL
[11:04] {Threei} ideally, I would like to see CSUN breaking this high on Monday
[11:04] {Threei} would be clasic C&H break
[11:11] {dino} layn l .12
[11:12] {BillyD} aimless wandering
[11:16] {dino} pfwd
[11:25] {Threei} SFUN
[11:25] {Threei} I don't see news
[11:25] {Threei} probably just another solar getting rememberd
[11:26] {BillyD} AFFX
[11:26] {BillyD} nice chart
[11:26] {Threei} whoa
[11:26] {BillyD} intraday
[11:26] {Threei} SFUN
[11:27] {lumdus} affx is solar also ?
[11:27] {Threei} rotten spread
[11:27] {magoo} shortable
[11:27] {Threei} AFFX is bio
[11:27] {BillyD} not sure lum
[11:27] {Threei} (I think)
[11:28] {BillyD} got upgrade today
[11:28] {BillyD} slow though
[11:32] {Threei} who plugged SFUN into high-voltage supply?
[11:32] {magoo} wheres the short?
[11:33] {BillyD} dunno, it probably said sun was shining over its corporate HQ
[11:34] {magoo} 10 was the short
[11:34] {Threei} 10.06 even better
[11:36] {BillyD} didn't want to buy on price alone here
[11:37] {BillyD} you interested Vad
[11:37] {Threei} I don't know... it almost completed roundtrip
[11:37] {dino} pfwd l .36
[11:38] {Threei} feels like just some pump somewhere
[11:38] {BillyD} yeah
[11:38] {BillyD} keep me honest
[11:38] {Threei} those often turn into one time deal
[11:38] {BillyD} no one to sell to
[11:39] {BillyD} AFFX I like if holds and takes high
[11:39] {BillyD} mkt dependent probably
[11:41] {Threei} 9.20 if holding above .10
[11:41] {Threei} if loses it, want it under 9
[11:41] {Threei} 50/50 play, just on small risk
[11:41] {lumdus} whcih stock ?
[11:42] {dptl} sfun
[11:42] {lumdus} ahhh, not my type
[11:48] {BillyD} thx for nothing AFFX
[11:49] {dino} bmti cov .22, +.24
[11:50] {magoo} is volume low today anyone?
[11:51] {Threei} yes
[11:51] {dptl} are you in sfun ,Vad?
[11:51] {Threei} yeah
[11:51] {Threei} not for long I suspect
[11:52] {dptl} in .22
[11:52] {dino} special dividend or something, $1
[11:52] {Threei} yuk
[11:52] {BillyD} sheesh
[11:53] {dino} hey, i don't make the rules...
[11:53] {BillyD} lol
[11:53] {dptl} out.09
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {magoo} quid bounce vad??
[12:04] {magoo} i mean opposite
[12:04] {Threei} hmm?
[12:07] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:07] {magoo} wake up man!!!
[12:07] {Threei} CSUN
[12:08] {Threei} .70 reak half lkot
[12:08] {Threei} .55 stop
[12:09] {magoo} what a reak lkot??
[12:09] {dptl} lol
[12:10] {Threei} frikin stock right at .70 at the moment, I am trying to type as fast as I can in case it scrolls... and what do I get for effort?
[12:11] {magoo} what is it??real lot?
[12:11] {Threei} and from whom? world's best typist magoo {G}
[12:14] {dino} biti
[12:14] {bruce} a half lkot sounds like a medical condition
[12:16] {dino} out pfrd .50, +.14
[12:18] {Threei} stop to .63
[12:19] {dino} risky, s biti .05
[12:21] {magoo} breaking SFUN trades vad
[12:21] {Threei} lol
[12:21] {Threei} [14:38] {Threei} feels like just some pump somewhere
[12:22] {Threei} 15:04:23 ADMIN7 --} (All): NASDAQ MarketWatch is investigating potentially erroneous transactions involving the security Saifun Semiconductors Ltd "SFUN" executed between 2:22:00 and 2:40:00 ET today
[12:23] {magoo} short qid yet boss?
[12:23] {Threei} no idea... it can continue wityh the same odds
[12:24] {Chaeron} leaving early all... have a great weekend. Best to all
[12:24] {Threei} take care chaeron
[12:24] {dino} take care chaer
[12:24] {magoo} WAIT!
[12:24] {magoo} missed him
[12:26] {magoo} i just didn't know how many shares were in a reak klot, so missed csun
[12:26] {Threei} god, send me power to bear with him
[12:26] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:27] {lumdus} way to funny
[12:27] {bruce} I've heard reak klots smell real bad too mags
[12:29] {magoo} sound like they would
[12:29] {bruce} maybe its a russian christmas dish?
[12:29] {bruce} mmm- pass the real klots
[12:29] {magoo} roflol
[12:29] {magoo} killing me
[12:30] {Threei} on second thought... I already demonstrated enough restraint and exercised enough patience
[12:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:30] * Threei slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:30] {magoo} choking here wuith layughter
[12:30] {bruce} trout and reak klots - yummer
[12:31] {Threei} make sure you sprinkle them with enough vodka to get real russian flavor
[12:31] {lumdus} csun we scalp +.12 - good for supper
[12:31] {Threei} good thing we haven't got ourselves into SFUN
[12:32] {Threei} if they break trades it's not fun
[12:32] {Threei} not even S fun
[12:32] {lumdus} sfun .. ha ha
[12:32] {magoo} yeah..been there remember
[12:32] {Threei} SCUN 1:1
[12:32] {Threei} CSUN
[12:33] {Threei} on reak klot
[12:33] {Threei} whatever that is
[12:33] {lumdus} freakin lot's
[12:34] {BillyD} out vad ty
[12:34] {BillyD} a miracle it worked
[12:34] {Threei} welcome sir
[12:34] {bruce} reak klots with trout and vodka
[12:34] {magoo} make sure on my bidu calls u only take a reak klot ok?
[12:34] {Threei} why... reak klots work well
[12:34] {bruce} and russian bear intestine
[12:34] {BillyD} lol
[12:34] {bruce} now thats a real treat
[12:35] {BillyD} so Vad, I guess we still own our SFUN trades
[12:36] {dptl} out +0.20 csun ty
[12:36] {BillyD} wtg dp
[12:36] {Threei} welcome dp
[12:36] {Threei} they haven't broken them yet billy, just investigating
[12:37] {Threei} my time stamps are outside of their investigated frame
[12:37] {lumdus} csun could run hard .. right ?
[12:37] {dino} out layn .37, +.25
[12:37] {Threei} so I guess we do whatever happens
[12:37] {BillyD} exactly
[12:37] {Threei} very much so lum
[12:37] {BillyD} can't lose :)
[12:37] {Threei} you mean 'cause we already did? {G}
[12:37] {BillyD} yes
[12:38] {magoo} u still in a half reak klot CSUN?
[12:38] {Threei} you can lose if one side of your trade is within timeframe getting broken
[12:38] {Threei} no, out full klot
[12:38] {magoo} ok
[12:41] {dino} apei, nice spread
[12:49] {Threei} CLNE, interesting move
[12:49] {BillyD} MESA as well
[12:51] {Threei} if .95 gets taken on CSUN, deserves another shot
[12:51] {Threei} risky
[12:51] {dino} biti stopped -.22
[12:54] {dptl} with stop under .80?
[12:54] {Threei} depends on where it bottoms on this pullback
[12:55] {dptl} i see
[12:55] {dptl} 5 min left
[12:55] {Threei} yeah, no time for a play
[12:55] {Threei} not even reak klot
[12:55] {bruce} green 8 out of 10 days so far this month vad
[12:55] {dptl} lol
[12:55] {Threei} now we are talking
[12:55] {Threei} wtg bruce
[12:56] {bruce} know what that means?
[12:56] {Threei} tell me
[12:56] {bruce} I'm environmentally friendly now
[12:56] {Threei} ahhh
[12:56] {BillyD} lol
[12:57] {Threei} dp, dcc please before you leave
[12:57] {bruce} have a great weekend all
[12:57] {bruce} go easy on the klots
[12:57] {Threei} take care bruce, good job
[12:57] {bruce} see you monday
[12:57] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:57] {bruce} help much appreciated
[12:58] {Threei} what help... reak klots is all I am capable of
[12:59] {Threei} but a lot of them
[12:59] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[12:59] {Threei} have a great relaxing weekend
[12:59] {BillyD} u 2
[13:00] {Threei} don't overeat reak klots
[13:00] {dptl} have a good weekend all
[13:00] {magoo} thanx ecverybody
[13:12] {dino} later all
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Session Close: Sat Dec 15 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Fri Dec 14 00:00:00 2007
[05:04] {Threei} 07:07am [CSUN] Announces supply agreement with Asola
[05:04] {BillyD} morning
[05:05] {BillyD} ESLR rocking
[05:05] {Threei} morning :)
[05:05] {Threei} 12/13/07 04:13pm [ESLR] Announces a ten-year polysilicon supply agreement with Silpro
[05:05] {BillyD} yeah, they now have a supplier
[05:06] {BillyD} and stock up huge
[05:06] {hawkfan4} eslr great trader last night and this morning
[05:06] {BillyD} morning hawk
[05:06] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:06] {hawkfan4} morning billy :) vad :)
[05:07] {BillyD} u play it last night hawk
[05:08] {BillyD} just when you thought it would stop going up it would spike up .30-.4- it seemed
[05:08] {hawkfan4} yep, and this morning got it 17.20, sold 18.15. can i go back to bed?
[05:08] {BillyD} sure
[05:08] {hawkfan4} lol :)
[05:08] {Threei} nice!
[05:08] {Threei} wtg
[05:09] {BillyD} got a little here at 17.50 and sold balance at .99
[05:09] {hawkfan4} very nice
[05:10] {hawkfan4} solf good start today too, looks like a solar day
[05:10] {BillyD} was to skiddish to buy preopen, couldn't anyway
[05:11] {Threei} CSUN bid
[05:11] {BillyD} .60?
[05:12] {Threei} took selling
[05:12] {BillyD} yes
[05:12] {Threei} looks like accumulating
[05:12] {BillyD} see how eslr jumps
[05:15] {BillyD} u n CSUN Vad
[05:15] {Threei} half
[05:15] {Threei} .51
[05:21] {Threei} RIGL... lol
[05:22] {BillyD} another one that moved in .50 increments in ah
[05:22] {BillyD} vol was lower on it
[05:22] {BillyD} couldn't risk it personally
[05:25] {BillyD} your stop .30 on CSUN
[05:25] {Threei} I am not sure it's a play for stop or profit at this point
[05:25] {Threei} it's securing half position to add later on to full,
[05:26] {Threei} either on deeper pullback or on break
[05:26] {Threei} hopefully on pullback
[05:26] {Threei} as hawk said, it shapes up as possible solar day
[05:28] {BillyD} got it
[05:30] {Threei} *NOV CONSUMER PRICE INDEX M/M: 0.8% V 0.6%E; CPI EX FOOD_ENERGY M/M: 0.3% V 0.2%E; CPI NSA: V 209.800E
[05:36] {Threei} not deep enough to add second half... and not sure I trust break
[05:36] {Threei} most likely will be sitting with half still
[05:37] {BillyD} nice bids
[05:37] {BillyD} some assurance
[05:37] {Threei} will see... CSUN is tough nut to crack
[05:37] {BillyD} you are in good company
[05:43] {Threei} offering .85
[05:44] {esemde} morning all.....sooooo....... the senate passes the renewable enery bill eh....solars here we come
[05:44] {Threei} ese :)
[05:45] {Threei} if not taken at .85 and .70 gets hit will bail and look for reenter
[05:47] {Threei} c'mon, one more push
[05:47] {Threei} I mean two
[05:48] {BillyD} c'mon for Vad
[05:48] {Threei} .70 strenghtened
[05:52] {Threei} ok, out
[05:52] {Threei} +.19
[05:53] {BillyD} looked good for a min
[05:53] {BillyD} still profit
[05:53] {BillyD} watching CRDC today
[05:58] {BillyD} BMRN non sto[
[05:58] {BillyD} stop
[06:02] {dino} gm all
[06:03] {Threei} dino :)
[06:05] {BillyD} hi dino
[06:06] {dino} gm guys
[06:12] {esemde} morning dino
[06:12] {esemde} Vad do you trade pre market often...
[06:12] {Threei} when see something irresistible
[06:13] {Threei} wouldn't say it's regular occurence
[06:13] {esemde} like CSUN.....
[06:14] {Threei} this is for you:
[06:14] {Threei} ESE
[06:14] {Threei} PRICE TARGET RAISED TO $46 FROM $40 AT ROBERT BAIRD
[06:14] {dptl} good morning all
[06:14] {esemde} is that CSUN?....
[06:14] {Threei} dp :)
[06:14] {esemde} dp
[06:14] {Threei} no, for ESE
[06:15] {liranm} gm everyone
[06:15] {Threei} liranm :)
[06:15] {esemde} lir....baby...hows it goin
[06:16] {BillyD} baby?
[06:16] {liranm} baby?
[06:16] {BillyD} lol
[06:16] {dptl} lol
[06:16] {esemde} musical term.......
[06:16] {BillyD} u scaring me ese
[06:16] {esemde} friendly greeting
[06:16] {liranm} my wife will not like it
[06:17] {Threei} lol
[06:17] {BillyD} for a moment, I thought is Liranm a woman
[06:17] {BillyD} no offense
[06:17] {esemde} looks like i've stired up a controversy.....
[06:17] {BillyD} again
[06:18] {BillyD} :)
[06:20] {BillyD} CSUN holds well so far Vad
[06:21] {BillyD} where is magoo
[06:22] {BillyD} snowed in?
[06:22] {Threei} magoo is busy writing fake letters from Santa
[06:22] {Threei} I sent my request to Santa, for tomorrow's WSJ subscription for 2008
[06:22] {BillyD} or pleading his case for good behavior
[06:22] {magoo} morning
[06:22] {Threei} got answer yesterday, saying:
[06:23] {magoo} was plowing snow all morn
[06:23] {Threei} "aren't you greedy one"
[06:23] {BillyD} lol
[06:23] {Threei} and for some reason signed magoo, crossed out and replaced by Truly Yours, Santa
[06:23] {Threei} oh hi magoo :)
[06:25] {esemde} my kids got one of them letters too
[06:25] {magoo} he he
[06:25] {esemde} except signed "Grinch"
[06:26] {magoo} i caught some ESLR afterhours, it went 18.40 area i believe
[06:26] {Threei} one of this scandalous latest ones ese??
[06:26] {Threei} or normal?
[06:27] {magoo} vad, i gotta motivate u
[06:27] {Threei} uh oh
[06:27] {magoo} i missed first three days, need some moolah
[06:28] * Threei ducks
[06:28] {lumdus} 3i, dcc
[06:28] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[06:33] {Roman} ENER long setup
[06:33] {Threei} BMRN small shares long 36 break
[06:33] {Threei} stop under .75
[06:34] {Roman} in ENER small
[06:34] {Roman} 33.35
[06:34] {Roman} may add small on pullback
[06:34] {Threei} {ENER} what's pullback?
[06:35] {esemde} CSUN blast off approaching
[06:35] {Roman} out ENER +.58
[06:35] {esemde} bstop .66
[06:36] {magoo} in bm,rn agg
[06:36] {magoo} .90
[06:36] {esemde} in .68
[06:36] {Threei} come on 36, give up
[06:37] {Roman} FCeL
[06:37] {Roman} long setup
[06:37] {Threei} nice CSUN ese
[06:37] {esemde} out CSUN .94 +.28
[06:38] {esemde} nice way to start the morning....now i have to go and do another show this morning
[06:38] {Threei} finally
[06:38] {magoo} i was kickin it vad
[06:39] {Threei} good job
[06:39] {esemde} i did that with a 1/2 lot Vad..... in your estimation would that be proper risk management
[06:39] {Threei} very much so
[06:39] {esemde} tks
[06:39] {Roman} magoo, where are u waiting on BMRN ?
[06:39] {Threei} CSUN deserves respect risk control wise
[06:39] {esemde} when do you tend to use a full lot
[06:40] {Threei} whewn it's not that jumpy and I can count on no or minimal slippage if getting stopped
[06:40] {Threei} BMRN:
[06:41] {Threei} it has all the markings of these runners of last days that just won't quit moving
[06:41] {Threei} it's at 1:1 now,
[06:41] {BillyD} took scalp on it Vad
[06:41] {BillyD} ty
[06:41] {dptl} out +.23 bmrn ty
[06:41] {Threei} make up your mind whether you want to take easy money or try and exploit this manner of them to go and go and go
[06:42] {magoo} me too, out .23 TY
[06:42] {bruce} 1/2 out brmn +.40
[06:42] {Threei} out half .35
[06:42] {Threei} FCEL moving
[06:42] {Threei} nice one Roman
[06:42] {Threei} (again)
[06:43] {Roman} CSIQ high
[06:44] {Threei} look at RIGL to see what I am trying to say on BMRN
[06:44] {Threei} of course noone knows if it has same chance,
[06:44] {Threei} but it's very similar to how RIGL looked yesterday morning
[06:45] {Threei} and you know how at the end of the day you sigh and say "why didn't I buy and hold"
[06:45] {lumdus} if we only know
[06:45] {Threei} or worse yet, "why didn't you tell us to buy and hold"
[06:45] {Threei} so here is your chance
[06:46] {Threei} solar day alright
[06:46] {Threei} scanner is full of solar stocks
[06:46] {magoo} bmrn solar?
[06:47] {Roman} ENER is new solar discovered play
[06:47] {esemde} indeed Vad indeed
[06:47] {Roman} going to be active
[06:47] {Threei} no magoo
[06:47] {Threei} lost 36, out
[06:48] {lumdus} what a deep
[06:49] {Roman} HOKU
[06:49] {Roman} long setup
[06:49] {Roman} PEIX long setup small
[06:50] {Roman} in HOKU small 11.40
[06:50] {Roman} no chasing
[06:51] {Roman} took PEIX small 6.42
[06:52] {Threei} lol
[06:52] {Threei} 09:51:40 ADMIN7 --} (All): EDGE is having problems with orders, we cant reach them, no one picking up phone.
[06:52] {BillyD} lol...again
[06:52] {Threei} ,EDGE rep, covering his face with both hands} ah leave alone
[06:52] {dptl} lol
[06:53] {cosmo} ESLR weak
[06:53] {BillyD} say the least cosmo
[06:53] {Threei} yeah but do you dare short it
[06:53] {Roman} pit HOKU +.32
[06:53] {BillyD} no
[06:53] {Roman} DNDN radar
[06:53] {cosmo} or find a bottom
[06:54] {liranm} Roman is on fire today, pity I didn't catch anything
[06:54] {bruce} exel vad?
[06:54] {BillyD} 1:30 before open ESLR dropped }40 in flash
[06:55] {Threei} 07:01am [EXEL] GlaxoSmithKline exercises its option to further develop and commercialize EXEL's anti-cancer inhibitor XL880
[06:55] {Threei} trades kind of sporadically
[06:55] {Threei} dunno
[06:55] {bruce} k - passing thanx
[06:56] {Threei} here is the thing about a lot of these stocks you look at and ask bruce:
[06:56] {Threei} they don't trade in a normal manner, no stream of prints
[06:56] {Threei} they sit fopr a while with no trades,
[06:57] {Threei} then some come,
[06:57] {Threei} stop trading again
[06:57] {Threei} this doesn't allow for one of major components of our mehtod of reading,
[06:57] {Threei} which is pace changes
[06:57] {Threei} stock moves up, pace increases, moves down - pace goes down - you get your indication
[06:58] {Threei} on chart you can see it as volume on advance vs volume of pullback
[06:58] {bruce} k
[06:58] {Threei} and when they trade like I described, with no activity, then flurry of prints, then no activity again... you just don't have a way to see which direction is the path of least resistance
[06:59] {bruce} got you - looking for clearer voolume price pattern
[06:59] {Threei} just trying to give you an additional filter to stop wasting time and ebergy on those "can do anything" useless pieces of whatever
[07:00] {bruce} thanx
[07:00] {Threei} keep EXEL on your screen for 5 minutes, watch T&S, you will recognize this kind immediately after this exercise
[07:00] {bruce} no point in looking at coin flip trades
[07:01] {BillyD} coin flip odds better
[07:01] {Threei} no, but there is a p;oint in watching it for a while to make it a recognizable one
[07:01] {Roman} CTDC high
[07:01] {Threei} kind of "adding a tool to your arsenal"
[07:01] {Roman} kinda early but also believe has a Solar connection
[07:02] {cosmo} solar rise in the morning
[07:02] {Threei} process of learning is a process of collecting recognizable situations and shaping up your responses
[07:02] {Threei} so there... one more
[07:02] {Threei} and cosmo... kind of obvious but still good one :)
[07:03] {Roman} VLNC radar, slow one but has some room for upside
[07:03] {cosmo} i always like to make sure tho
[07:07] {Roman} ASTI
[07:07] {Roman} has some room
[07:09] {Threei} CSUN holding rather well
[07:09] {Threei} if not losing .25 has a chance
[07:09] {Threei} break area is .50
[07:09] {magoo} BMRN feels like 37
[07:10] {magoo} in now .33
[07:10] {magoo} fast
[07:10] {magoo} as rtyped
[07:10] {Threei} but aggressive entry with tight stop is better on it yes
[07:11] {Threei} lost .25... no read for now
[07:11] {dino} l drys .95
[07:13] {Threei} OK, CSUN: half lot long .32
[07:13] {Threei} stop under .20
[07:14] {Threei} look to exit half on spike above .40
[07:14] {magoo} in csun
[07:15] {Threei} 1:1
[07:15] {magoo} out here .47 TY nice
[07:15] {dptl} half out .46
[07:15] {Threei} half out, stop to b/e
[07:15] {Threei} brealk or no break?
[07:15] {magoo} half out of a half lot??
[07:16] {Threei} how is it a contradiction?
[07:16] {BillyD} cable company doing maintenance , lost phones and internet
[07:16] {BillyD} luckily not in anything
[07:17] {Threei} break it is
[07:17] {dptl} got scared sold other half
[07:17] {bruce} don't they give you notice billy?
[07:18] {Threei} you are easy to scare dp
[07:18] {BillyD} nol, they were suppose to cal 48 hour advance notice
[07:18] {dptl} well sometimes
[07:18] {Threei} stop to .34
[07:18] {BillyD} got back up ISP in case, but no phone lines
[07:19] {bruce} that sucks - not bothering to give notice
[07:19] {cosmo} forces of nature i say
[07:20] {Threei} JASO lost its mind
[07:20] {Threei} (again)
[07:21] {BillyD} anyhting can happen
[07:21] {BillyD} and it does lol
[07:22] {Threei} out balance CSUN
[07:23] {Threei} CSIQ trying
[07:23] {lumdus} we in csiq ?
[07:23] {Threei} me no
[07:23] {Threei} observing it
[07:24] {Threei} calling attention to it
[07:24] {Threei} if we were in you would see me posting setup on it, with trigger and stop
[07:25] {Threei} .25 resisatnce to break, 24 support... I am not keen on breaks on this one, pullbacks work better with it
[07:25] {lumdus} thank you.
[07:25] {Threei} I'd try to bid half lot at .75
[07:25] {Threei} with top under .50
[07:26] {Threei} if no fill, so be it
[07:26] {Threei} I prefer to miss this one rather than enter too high, it tends to pull back too deep for comfort
[07:27] {BillyD} ESLR looks sneaky
[07:28] {cosmo} snakey
[07:28] {BillyD} tried to buy at 17 and no connection to Laser order server
[07:31] {Threei} EMKR half lot long .70 if holding above .60
[07:33] {Threei} CALYON RAISED ESLR TO BUY FROM ADD, PRICE TARGET: $22 (TIMING UNCERTAIN)
[07:34] {Threei} still in BMRN magoo?
[07:34] {magoo} yes
[07:34] {Threei} EMKR, if losing .60 once more forget break
[07:35] {dino} gs stop from yesterday to 212.49
[07:35] {Roman} CPSL trying too
[07:35] {magoo} was waiting .83, only got to .73 dammit
[07:36] {dino} out gs +5.99
[07:36] {dptl} nice one Dino
[07:37] {dino} ty
[07:37] {magoo} now stopped for loss..IDIOT..should stick to scalpin
[07:38] {dino} out drys .19, +.24 toughy today
[07:38] {dptl} emkr...held
[07:40] {Roman} FRPT bouncing nicely
[07:40] {Roman} no clear entry
[07:40] {Roman} i think SPAR should follow
[07:41] {dptl} got.73 emkr
[07:41] {Threei} EMKR stop either .59 or .54, depending on your risk tolerance, both are valid
[07:42] {Roman} watching CHNR with other china plays
[07:43] {magoo} emkr entry was?
[07:43] {Threei} .70
[07:43] {dptl} .70
[07:44] {Roman} long SPAR
[07:45] {Threei} 1:1 EMKR
[07:45] {Roman} 7.20 area
[07:46] {Roman} FFHL think
[07:46] {Roman} radar
[07:46] {Roman} spiker
[07:46] {magoo} bmrn gonna go..back in .29
[07:47] {magoo} risky..stopped mealready
[07:48] {Roman} CHNR
[07:48] {Roman} in super small
[07:48] {magoo} 35.98 stiop
[07:48] {Threei} ESLR pullback entry .51 if holding above .35
[07:50] {dino} meli
[07:52] {magoo} eslr valid still?
[07:52] {Threei} only if not losing .35 anymore
[07:52] {Threei} if it does, interested closer to 17
[07:52] {dptl} stoped emkr
[07:53] {magoo} k
[07:54] {Roman} DNDN
[07:54] {Roman} mentioned on CNBC
[07:55] {lumdus} where would the stop be for eslr if enter
[07:55] {lumdus} forget it lost .35
[07:56] {Threei} if it would, .35 was defined as indicative support
[07:56] {Threei} so stop would be .34
[07:56] {lumdus} ok, maybe here is good
[07:56] {lumdus} in 17.03
[07:56] {bruce} looking like a deep pullback kinda day
[07:57] {Roman} DNDN Dendreon follow up: Jon Najarian highlights stock on CNBC -- says it's going a lot higher, into the "double digits" quickly (7.14 +0.15)
[07:58] {Threei} protect profit lum
[07:59] {lumdus} thank you
[08:00] {dino} bmrn s .15, stop .46
[08:03] {dino} ocnf l .63, stop .37
[08:03] {esemde} what does DNDN do again...anyone know
[08:04] {Threei} drugs
[08:04] {Threei} mostly not approved ones
[08:04] {BillyD} story of most of them
[08:04] {BillyD} they can be good traders though
[08:05] {esemde} this is the one one that went $20 in one day a while ago ....
[08:05] {esemde} one of you caught it on a short on the way down if i remember.....
[08:09] {magoo} what u looking at vad? interested in ESLR?
[08:09] {Threei} not here
[08:09] {Threei} bounce off 17 was it, one that lumdus caught
[08:10] {Threei} next indication on it depends on whether it's able to hold 17
[08:10] {Threei} high is a bit too far from support for now, 30 cents
[08:10] {Threei} so need some new consolidation
[08:11] {Threei} however magoo,
[08:11] {Threei} I have just the thing fro you to endure the lack of activity:
[08:11] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:11] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:11] {Threei} feeling better?
[08:12] {Threei} ESLR tests
[08:12] {Threei} shortable btw
[08:12] {Roman} FRPT topped
[08:12] {Roman} out 1/2 SPAR +.23
[08:12] {Threei} .90 short
[08:13] {Threei} 17.01 stop
[08:13] {Roman} out CHNR +.75
[08:13] {Threei} invalidated
[08:13] {Threei} scorching hot Roman
[08:13] {Threei} aggressive ESLR short here
[08:13] {Roman} LUNA thin
[08:13] {Threei} with .16 stop
[08:13] {Roman} spiker
[08:16] {Threei} 1:1 ESLR cover half
[08:16] {Threei} stop to .06
[08:18] {Threei} NQ drop here should kill ESLR
[08:18] {Threei} in any case, stop is just couple cents now
[08:20] {Threei} stopped
[08:21] {magoo} strong bounce
[08:22] {magoo} dndn hangin around
[08:22] {magoo} anyone in it?
[08:22] {BillyD} not here
[08:25] {magoo} 8 in its range
[08:26] {dino} bstop to .85 bmrn
[08:26] {dino} stopped +.30
[08:28] {esemde} Have a great weekend everyone...i'm off
[08:28] {magoo} u s es
[08:29] {dino} later ese
[08:29] {Threei} take care ese
[08:31] {bruce} bye ese
[08:31] {dino} airm
[08:32] {bruce} frpt
[08:33] {dino} reading my mind bruce
[08:33] {bruce} lol
[08:38] {dptl} Vad,how about emkr of .68?
[08:39] {Threei} nah
[08:40] {dptl} ok
[08:41] {dino} missed frpt
[08:42] {dino} luna
[08:43] {dptl} means moon in russian (luna)
[08:46] {dino} airm l .01, stop lod
[08:49] {BillyD} gotta run out for an hour
[08:50] {magoo} goodd luck
[08:50] {dino} luna, bear in the big blue house
[08:52] {dptl} i am slowly going into coma mode
[08:53] {dino} same here
[08:54] {dptl} well at least Magoo gonna serve beer for you soon
[08:56] {Threei} going into coma?
[08:56] {Threei} you mean you actually ever come out of it?
[08:56] {dptl} for short time Vad
[08:56] {Threei} not me
[09:04] {dino} simo
[09:04] {dino} in 4-5 hours dp
[09:05] {dino} break of .50 bmti s
[09:05] {dino} hbio
[09:05] {dino} b/o 5 bucks
[09:06] {Threei} HOLDER SKYSTONE REPORTS 15.4% STAKE AND SAYS HAS MADE A $5/SHR OFFER FOR HBIO
[09:10] {Threei} watch LUNA for bounce here
[09:10] {magoo} u in?
[09:10] {Threei} not yet
[09:11] {magoo} let me know when
[09:11] {Threei} won't do you any good, too thin
[09:11] {dino} simo s .30, wide
[09:12] {Threei} by the time I post price is not likely to be available
[09:12] {Threei} in
[09:12] {Threei} .10
[09:12] {magoo} in .09 lol
[09:12] {Threei} just a scalp IMO
[09:13] {magoo} 37 BMRN
[09:13] {magoo} f'er
[09:13] {magoo} new it
[09:15] {bruce} you buy 2k vad?
[09:16] {Threei} on LUNA??
[09:16] {bruce} yes - saw 2 k entry - seemed like a lot
[09:16] {magoo} prob roman lol
[09:16] {Threei} I like to think of myself as sane
[09:17] {Threei} vould be a stretch of course
[09:17] {Threei} but there are limits to asny stretch
[09:17] {magoo} ugly picture..watching vad stretch
[09:18] {bruce} k -
[09:18] {magoo} where u waitring vad?
[09:18] {Threei} not sure yet
[09:19] {Threei} will see how determined it is
[09:19] {magoo} ok, let me know so i can under cut your offer ok?
[09:19] {Threei} great
[09:19] {dptl} lol
[09:19] {Threei} 10.50 then
[09:19] {magoo} just by a pemnny
[09:19] {magoo} .49
[09:19] {Threei} go ahead and undercut me at 10.49
[09:20] {Threei} ARCA reserve at .17
[09:20] {Threei} that could be your 2K buyer bruce
[09:21] {Threei} if so, sold 1200 already
[09:25] {bruce} big moves meli dino
[09:28] {dino} yes
[09:28] {dino} think we missed it
[09:29] {magoo} out luna .10..no like
[09:29] {bruce} lol - I sure did
[09:29] {magoo} sh bidu 393.04
[09:30] {dino} qelp
[09:30] {BillyD} back
[09:32] {dino} you must be tired
[09:32] {BillyD} lol
[09:32] {BillyD} do you and magoo practice your comedy routine together
[09:33] {dino} lol
[09:33] {BillyD} lol
[09:34] {dino} layn blood
[09:36] {magoo} coveredc here 392
[09:36] {magoo} 1.03 200 shgares
[09:40] {bruce} somethings wrong vad
[09:40] {Threei} with the world?
[09:40] {bruce} that too
[09:41] {Threei} I came to this conclusion when heard how Santa got forbidden to say ho ho ho
[09:41] {Threei} as offensive to women
[09:41] {bruce} lol
[09:41] {dptl} lol
[09:41] {bruce} sorry - not supposed to laugh at that
[09:41] {Threei} and it got confirmed when activsts said Santa has to losde weight in order to be a worthy role model
[09:43] {Threei} and in case you think I made that up...
[09:43] {Threei} http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Santas_warned_ho_ho_ho_offensive_to_11142007.html
[09:44] {dino} ocnf stopped -.28
[09:44] {Threei} http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=491770&in_page_id=1770
[09:44] {bruce} he should proabably get rid of those smelly reindeer too
[09:44] {BillyD} it is animal cruelty
[09:46] {bruce} indded billy
[09:47] {bruce} plus they're hard on roof shingles
[09:47] {dino} cov simo .06, +.24
[09:49] {dino} "they" have to ruin everything
[09:50] {bruce} "blame canada - blame canada"
[09:50] {bruce} learned that in the "south park movie
[09:52] {BillyD} DNDN activity
[09:54] {BillyD} Vad take a look
[09:54] {BillyD} if holds here and takes .60 offer?
[09:55] {Threei} half lot...
[09:55] {BillyD} k
[09:57] {BillyD} in .61
[09:58] {dptl} in.62
[09:58] {bruce} same billy
[09:58] {BillyD} .62 gotta lift
[09:58] {magoo} in .60
[09:59] {BillyD} I am keeping tight stop by feel
[09:59] {dptl} stop under .50?
[09:59] {BillyD} for sure
[10:00] {Threei} finally
[10:01] {Threei} questionable enthusiasm
[10:01] {BillyD} yup
[10:01] {dino} airm stopped w/slip, .55 ave - .46
[10:01] {magoo} out flat
[10:02] {BillyD} out 1/2 -.02
[10:07] {BillyD} out rest -.06
[10:09] {bruce} out -.08 for me
[10:09] {bruce} good trade control mags
[10:10] {dptl} still in
[10:10] {bruce} break time
[10:10] {BillyD} it may hold here
[10:11] {magoo} dndn u mean?
[10:13] {magoo} treacherous stock, easily drop in .38 area
[10:15] {dptl} stopped dndn
[10:17] {dino} rams
[10:17] {BillyD} EDGE gonna get the boot if it doesn't get its technical issues resolved
[10:17] {magoo} worthless
[10:18] {BillyD} has to be very annoying for everyone
[10:18] {BillyD} especially the guy who won't answer the phone...hehe
[10:18] {magoo} who the heck uses it anyway?
[10:19] {BillyD} ISLD route for me
[10:19] {magoo} ESLR l 17
[10:19] {Threei} EMKR JEFFERIES RAISES PRICE TARGET TO $18 FROM $13
[10:19] {magoo} fresh?
[10:20] {Threei} 13:18
[10:20] {magoo} u mean 18:13
[10:20] {dino} rams l .20
[10:21] {lumdus} usually when such news comes ou we get a pop ?
[10:22] {BillyD} upgrades/downgrades always questionable
[10:22] {Threei} absolutely not necessary lum
[10:23] {Threei} very much depends on market mood
[10:23] {Threei} in a strong bull, even simple mention can take a stock higher
[10:23] {lumdus} now, everyone out to lunch mabye when they come back we will see it move
[10:24] {Threei} FYI... about 80% of upgrades are being issued in the upper 20% of stock's range... visa-versa for downgrades
[10:24] {Threei} that's official stats from 2002
[10:25] {magoo} uh vad...this is 2008 bro
[10:25] {Threei} so judge for yourself how effective/truthful those are
[10:25] {liranm} Vad, what is your opinion about trading in launch time?
[10:25] {BillyD} so its true, "they" exist
[10:25] {magoo} long eslr off 17
[10:26] {Threei} it's not "mine" liranm, it's very well known... lunch time equals decreased activity, less volume, less pattern-following, more erratic moves
[10:26] {lumdus} lunch time is to eat not to trade. that simple
[10:26] {BillyD} lol
[10:26] {liranm} but I see that you trade launch time every day
[10:27] {Threei} compare activity
[10:27] {Threei} how many calls on average in the morning vs lunch time
[10:27] {Threei} 5:1?
[10:30] {dptl} where is youe stop Magoo?
[10:30] {magoo} .17 cents
[10:30] {Threei} - Jefferies says the terrestrial Solar Concentrated Photo Voltaics (CPV) business is poised for growth in 2008
[10:30] {Threei} - note: EMKR is scheduled to report earnings on Monday morning
[10:31] {magoo} they are pumping it
[10:31] {lumdus} who's pumping it ? i'll go for the rid
[10:31] {dino} artw
[10:31] {Threei} EMKR misses on Monday, it goes to 9 in a blink of eye
[10:32] {lumdus} ok, so just quick trade for lunch money - got it
[10:32] {Threei} beats, opens at 15
[10:32] {Threei} pretty much liranm, follow through is weak so scalps are way to go
[10:32] {lumdus} well, if they just got upgraded chance they beat
[10:32] {Threei} huh?
[10:33] {Threei} how do you figure?
[10:33] {Threei} you haven't seen upgrade followed by huge miss and harrowing haircut?
[10:33] {lumdus} you think they upgrade without knowing anything ?
[10:34] {Threei} that's fundamentally wrong way to approach it lum
[10:34] {lumdus} ok. tha't for the correction
[10:34] {Threei} forget entire universe of reasoning behind the company
[10:34] {Threei} that's for investors
[10:35] {Threei} trade off stock's reaction
[10:35] {lumdus} ok, forgotten . i hear you loud a clear
[10:35] {Threei} you need profit from stock movement - read stock movement
[10:35] {magoo} thats cause hes yelling at u
[10:35] {Threei} you need to be right about company deveopments - read prospects and statements and industry news
[10:36] {lumdus} that's fine, haven't been in the market for a good 3 years. so i need to remember it all
[10:36] {Threei} those two realities are not necessary connected directly
[10:36] {magoo} she was so cold.....all the salt in world could not melt her heart
[10:37] {BillyD} different twilight zones lum
[10:37] {magoo} .83 is my stop, was not hit
[10:37] {magoo} saw .85
[10:37] {Threei} FED'S BERNANKE: FED IS STUDYING THE NEED FOR MORTGAGE BROKER COMPENSATION DISCLOSURE
[10:37] {dptl} no...still in
[10:37] {BillyD} it hit .83
[10:38] {BillyD} barely
[10:38] {magoo} i no see thatr
[10:38] {magoo} i manually stoppin
[10:38] {BillyD} look at chart
[10:38] {magoo} NO
[10:38] {lumdus} 3i, so help me here i am in emkr 12.53
[10:39] {Threei} I can't
[10:39] {Threei} I see no play here
[10:39] {lumdus} oh, thanks partner
[10:39] {Threei} it can do anything
[10:39] {BillyD} lum, set stop or sell it
[10:39] {lumdus} ok, stop 12.54
[10:40] {lumdus} it felt like it needed me in the stock
[10:40] {BillyD} peaceful eh :)
[10:40] {BillyD} lol
[10:40] {dino} artw l .75, risky
[10:40] {magoo} offer it out LUm'
[10:42] {magoo} u got a good scalp..do not give it back imho
[10:44] {dino} out artw .15, +.40
[10:44] {magoo} magoo kickin punchin biting pullin ESLR
[10:44] {lumdus} a few cents i got it
[10:46] {magoo} out .17 + .17 FL
[10:47] {BillyD} nice one guys
[10:48] {dino} out ra,ms +.20 at .40
[10:49] {magoo} sigh..i wish vad would contribute {as i run to hide under rock lol}
[10:49] {BillyD} magoo, do you do motocycly jumping/flips etc
[10:50] {BillyD} watching some guys on ESPN and amazed
[10:50] {Threei} magoo, you almost did it
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] {Threei} but I kept myself restrained... trout is back to holster
[10:50] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[10:50] {Threei} but holster is unbuttoned
[10:50] {Chaeron} there you go Threei... I had mine handy
[10:50] {BillyD} rfol
[10:50] {Threei} thank you Chaeron
[10:51] {Threei} how about that, EMKR?
[10:51] * Chaeron changes his nick to
[10:51] {Chaeron} Quickdraw
[10:51] {Chaeron} *sigh*
[10:51] {Chaeron} (dang fat fingers)
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:52] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[10:53] {Chaeron} :)
[10:53] {lumdus} funny place. same joke about this trout
[10:53] * BillyD slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:53] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[10:54] {BillyD} lum, do you know how to trout someone
[10:54] {Threei} TTR, page 11-13, then 44 and on - everything you need to know about trading vs upgrades, downgrades and all this chaff
[10:56] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:56] {lumdus} ouch it hurts. be kind
[10:57] * magoo slaps lumdus around a bit with a large trout
[10:57] {magoo} hoe bout now?
[10:57] {BillyD} fight back lum
[10:57] {Threei} magoo? kind? now, that's something I hopew never to see
[10:57] {magoo} u pushing your luck little man {soup nazi lol}
[10:57] {Chaeron} will mean the end of age
[10:58] {Threei} you mean end of era
[10:58] {magoo} u mean end of days
[10:58] {Threei} magoo, you mean he actually meant something?
[10:58] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:59] {magoo} i mean he meant what you mean i think
[10:59] {Threei} {--- going to monastery for the next three years to ponder it all
[10:59] {magoo} with vodka??
[10:59] {Threei} and chaeron's trout
[11:00] {lumdus} lots of vodka
[11:00] {magoo} i was out drinking in snowstorm last nite...woke up, bottle of vodka on my night stand and my freezer was wringing from cell phone
[11:00] {magoo} CSUN activity
[11:01] {magoo} BMRN
[11:01] {Threei} {--- extneds monastery term to 5 years to ponder latest magoo statement
[11:03] {Threei} 11.57 that stopped CSUN today is exact high on the last spike, 12/o5
[11:03] {Threei} and just 4 cents diff with one before that, 10.29
[11:03] {Threei} all 3 together formed C&H on daily
[11:03] {magoo} enough with commentary and pick a winner {as magoo dives foir cover}
[11:03] {Threei} volume configures right
[11:04] {Threei} OK, that did it
[11:04] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] {magoo} ROFLOL
[11:04] {Threei} ideally, I would like to see CSUN breaking this high on Monday
[11:04] {Threei} would be clasic C&H break
[11:11] {dino} layn l .12
[11:12] {BillyD} aimless wandering
[11:16] {dino} pfwd
[11:25] {Threei} SFUN
[11:25] {Threei} I don't see news
[11:25] {Threei} probably just another solar getting rememberd
[11:26] {BillyD} AFFX
[11:26] {BillyD} nice chart
[11:26] {Threei} whoa
[11:26] {BillyD} intraday
[11:26] {Threei} SFUN
[11:27] {lumdus} affx is solar also ?
[11:27] {Threei} rotten spread
[11:27] {magoo} shortable
[11:27] {Threei} AFFX is bio
[11:27] {BillyD} not sure lum
[11:27] {Threei} (I think)
[11:28] {BillyD} got upgrade today
[11:28] {BillyD} slow though
[11:32] {Threei} who plugged SFUN into high-voltage supply?
[11:32] {magoo} wheres the short?
[11:33] {BillyD} dunno, it probably said sun was shining over its corporate HQ
[11:34] {magoo} 10 was the short
[11:34] {Threei} 10.06 even better
[11:36] {BillyD} didn't want to buy on price alone here
[11:37] {BillyD} you interested Vad
[11:37] {Threei} I don't know... it almost completed roundtrip
[11:37] {dino} pfwd l .36
[11:38] {Threei} feels like just some pump somewhere
[11:38] {BillyD} yeah
[11:38] {BillyD} keep me honest
[11:38] {Threei} those often turn into one time deal
[11:38] {BillyD} no one to sell to
[11:39] {BillyD} AFFX I like if holds and takes high
[11:39] {BillyD} mkt dependent probably
[11:41] {Threei} 9.20 if holding above .10
[11:41] {Threei} if loses it, want it under 9
[11:41] {Threei} 50/50 play, just on small risk
[11:41] {lumdus} whcih stock ?
[11:42] {dptl} sfun
[11:42] {lumdus} ahhh, not my type
[11:48] {BillyD} thx for nothing AFFX
[11:49] {dino} bmti cov .22, +.24
[11:50] {magoo} is volume low today anyone?
[11:51] {Threei} yes
[11:51] {dptl} are you in sfun ,Vad?
[11:51] {Threei} yeah
[11:51] {Threei} not for long I suspect
[11:52] {dptl} in .22
[11:52] {dino} special dividend or something, $1
[11:52] {Threei} yuk
[11:52] {BillyD} sheesh
[11:53] {dino} hey, i don't make the rules...
[11:53] {BillyD} lol
[11:53] {dptl} out.09
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {magoo} quid bounce vad??
[12:04] {magoo} i mean opposite
[12:04] {Threei} hmm?
[12:07] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[12:07] {magoo} wake up man!!!
[12:07] {Threei} CSUN
[12:08] {Threei} .70 reak half lkot
[12:08] {Threei} .55 stop
[12:09] {magoo} what a reak lkot??
[12:09] {dptl} lol
[12:10] {Threei} frikin stock right at .70 at the moment, I am trying to type as fast as I can in case it scrolls... and what do I get for effort?
[12:11] {magoo} what is it??real lot?
[12:11] {Threei} and from whom? world's best typist magoo {G}
[12:14] {dino} biti
[12:14] {bruce} a half lkot sounds like a medical condition
[12:16] {dino} out pfrd .50, +.14
[12:18] {Threei} stop to .63
[12:19] {dino} risky, s biti .05
[12:21] {magoo} breaking SFUN trades vad
[12:21] {Threei} lol
[12:21] {Threei} [14:38] {Threei} feels like just some pump somewhere
[12:22] {Threei} 15:04:23 ADMIN7 --} (All): NASDAQ MarketWatch is investigating potentially erroneous transactions involving the security Saifun Semiconductors Ltd "SFUN" executed between 2:22:00 and 2:40:00 ET today
[12:23] {magoo} short qid yet boss?
[12:23] {Threei} no idea... it can continue wityh the same odds
[12:24] {Chaeron} leaving early all... have a great weekend. Best to all
[12:24] {Threei} take care chaeron
[12:24] {dino} take care chaer
[12:24] {magoo} WAIT!
[12:24] {magoo} missed him
[12:26] {magoo} i just didn't know how many shares were in a reak klot, so missed csun
[12:26] {Threei} god, send me power to bear with him
[12:26] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:27] {lumdus} way to funny
[12:27] {bruce} I've heard reak klots smell real bad too mags
[12:29] {magoo} sound like they would
[12:29] {bruce} maybe its a russian christmas dish?
[12:29] {bruce} mmm- pass the real klots
[12:29] {magoo} roflol
[12:29] {magoo} killing me
[12:30] {Threei} on second thought... I already demonstrated enough restraint and exercised enough patience
[12:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:30] * Threei slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[12:30] {magoo} choking here wuith layughter
[12:30] {bruce} trout and reak klots - yummer
[12:31] {Threei} make sure you sprinkle them with enough vodka to get real russian flavor
[12:31] {lumdus} csun we scalp +.12 - good for supper
[12:31] {Threei} good thing we haven't got ourselves into SFUN
[12:32] {Threei} if they break trades it's not fun
[12:32] {Threei} not even S fun
[12:32] {lumdus} sfun .. ha ha
[12:32] {magoo} yeah..been there remember
[12:32] {Threei} SCUN 1:1
[12:32] {Threei} CSUN
[12:33] {Threei} on reak klot
[12:33] {Threei} whatever that is
[12:33] {lumdus} freakin lot's
[12:34] {BillyD} out vad ty
[12:34] {BillyD} a miracle it worked
[12:34] {Threei} welcome sir
[12:34] {bruce} reak klots with trout and vodka
[12:34] {magoo} make sure on my bidu calls u only take a reak klot ok?
[12:34] {Threei} why... reak klots work well
[12:34] {bruce} and russian bear intestine
[12:34] {BillyD} lol
[12:34] {bruce} now thats a real treat
[12:35] {BillyD} so Vad, I guess we still own our SFUN trades
[12:36] {dptl} out +0.20 csun ty
[12:36] {BillyD} wtg dp
[12:36] {Threei} welcome dp
[12:36] {Threei} they haven't broken them yet billy, just investigating
[12:37] {Threei} my time stamps are outside of their investigated frame
[12:37] {lumdus} csun could run hard .. right ?
[12:37] {dino} out layn .37, +.25
[12:37] {Threei} so I guess we do whatever happens
[12:37] {BillyD} exactly
[12:37] {Threei} very much so lum
[12:37] {BillyD} can't lose :)
[12:37] {Threei} you mean 'cause we already did? {G}
[12:37] {BillyD} yes
[12:38] {magoo} u still in a half reak klot CSUN?
[12:38] {Threei} you can lose if one side of your trade is within timeframe getting broken
[12:38] {Threei} no, out full klot
[12:38] {magoo} ok
[12:41] {dino} apei, nice spread
[12:49] {Threei} CLNE, interesting move
[12:49] {BillyD} MESA as well
[12:51] {Threei} if .95 gets taken on CSUN, deserves another shot
[12:51] {Threei} risky
[12:51] {dino} biti stopped -.22
[12:54] {dptl} with stop under .80?
[12:54] {Threei} depends on where it bottoms on this pullback
[12:55] {dptl} i see
[12:55] {dptl} 5 min left
[12:55] {Threei} yeah, no time for a play
[12:55] {Threei} not even reak klot
[12:55] {bruce} green 8 out of 10 days so far this month vad
[12:55] {dptl} lol
[12:55] {Threei} now we are talking
[12:55] {Threei} wtg bruce
[12:56] {bruce} know what that means?
[12:56] {Threei} tell me
[12:56] {bruce} I'm environmentally friendly now
[12:56] {Threei} ahhh
[12:56] {BillyD} lol
[12:57] {Threei} dp, dcc please before you leave
[12:57] {bruce} have a great weekend all
[12:57] {bruce} go easy on the klots
[12:57] {Threei} take care bruce, good job
[12:57] {bruce} see you monday
[12:57] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:57] {bruce} help much appreciated
[12:58] {Threei} what help... reak klots is all I am capable of
[12:59] {Threei} but a lot of them
[12:59] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[12:59] {Threei} have a great relaxing weekend
[12:59] {BillyD} u 2
[13:00] {Threei} don't overeat reak klots
[13:00] {dptl} have a good weekend all
[13:00] {magoo} thanx ecverybody
[13:12] {dino} later all
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