Wednesday, December 5, 2007

December 5, 2007

Session Start: Wed Dec 05 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Wed Dec 05 00:00:00 2007

[08:14] {Threei} CSIQ PRICES $75M 6.0% 2017 UNSECURED NOTES-notes will be convertible into common shares of Canadian Solar at an initial conversion rate of 50.6073 common shares per US$1,000 principal amount of notes, subject to adjustment under certain circumstances, which isequivalent to an initial conversion price of approximately $19.76 per share.
[08:14] {BillyD} morning Vad
[08:14] {Threei} Billy :)
[08:15] {BillyD} surprised CSIQ selling then
[08:15] {Threei} *NOV ADP EMPLOYMENT CHANGE: 189K V 50KE
[08:15] {Threei} lol
[08:16] {Threei} my understanding is it's about announced earlier notes
[08:16] {Threei} I remember 2017 menntioned back then
[08:17] {Threei} in short... who cares - this stock will go no matter what while momo is with it
[08:17] {BillyD} I was comtemplating buying some at 18 a few min ago
[08:17] {Threei} and when momo goes away - no amount of CPR or zapping or whatever will revive it
[08:18] {BillyD} very true
[08:22] {BillyD} u think your trade picks working at high % due to intuition more so than at other times
[08:23] {Threei} you know... I am not overanalyzing it
[08:24] {Threei} comes and goes in waves,
[08:24] {Threei} sometimes I hit them close to 100% for a while,
[08:24] {Threei} then % goes back to more traditional
[08:24] {Threei} but always remains high enough to make a living
[08:24] {Threei} so, it sounds natural, right?
[08:25] {Threei} things work in cycles
[08:25] {Threei} why not here
[08:25] {Threei} if it's natural, what to analyze
[08:25] {Threei} be back in 10
[08:35] {Threei} back
[08:35] {Threei} welcome aboard liranm
[08:42] {Threei} and about intuition... two things I need to say about it
[08:42] {Threei} 1 don't underestimate it, it's a big part of successful trading
[08:42] {Threei} and 2. don't overestimate it, there is nothing mysterious about it
[08:43] {Threei} it comes naturally overtime to a careful observer who pays attention to what happens
[08:43] {Threei} the rest I said about it in TTR :)
[08:44] {BillyD} well, was reading that section in TTR and it dawned on me that in a very selective mkt that maybe that was part of ability to pick the really good ones
[08:44] {magoo} morn RT
[08:44] {Threei} magoo :)
[08:44] {Threei} it's a big part of it Billy, no doubt
[08:44] {Threei} it comes to "seen it all"
[08:45] {Threei} one of Stephen King books recently gave me another analogy that has to do with intuition
[08:45] {Threei} gotta do a blog post on it, as soon as I shake out coma of laziness :)
[08:46] {Threei} (which may never happen, I cherish my laziness)
[08:47] {BillyD} I'm sure when writing TTR it made things much more clear to you
[08:47] {Threei} writing has this effect, yes
[08:48] {Threei} to put thing in order and pour them on paper in a coherent manner, you need to systematize them for yourself
[08:48] {BillyD} yes
[08:48] {magoo} on intuition, my thoughts are that you have seen so many patterns develope over years that your brain haas subliminal recognition
[08:49] {Threei} I think when I wrote MPP it had even more preonounced effect
[08:49] {Threei} since MPP is all about systematic approach
[08:49] {Threei} very much so magoo
[08:49] {Threei} you nailed it
[08:49] {magoo} like sometimes i just can "feel it" with no better reasoning
[08:50] {magoo} prob subliminal
[08:50] {Threei} which essentially means,
[08:50] {magoo} i spent too much of my life watching stox he he
[08:50] {Threei} your brain arrived from A (seeing things) to E (conclusion about most probable development)
[08:51] {Threei} without going through B,C and D
[08:51] {cosmo} CMCSA
[08:51] {Threei} which are logical steps of thinking
[08:51] {Threei} B,C and D occured of course
[08:51] {Threei} but without your conscious thinking
[08:51] {Threei} they occured behind the curtain
[08:51] {Threei} brain kind of skipped those steps
[08:51] {Threei} because the route is familiar
[08:52] {Threei} much like driving your traditional route
[08:52] {Threei} when you suddenly realize you are already there
[08:52] {Threei} and never even noticed all the traffic lights and other cars on your way.
[08:52] {cosmo} so.. this IS the bank
[08:52] {Threei} But you did stop at red, slowed down to let someone in
[08:53] {Threei} and all that happened while you were somewhere else in your mind
[08:54] {Threei} remember when we said CSIQ is far from done,
[08:54] {Threei} this thing goes much higher,
[08:54] {Threei} likely to make new highs sooner than later
[08:55] {Threei} It just acted in that familiar way
[08:55] {Threei} different from one day wonder\
[08:56] {cosmo} profit taking?
[08:56] {Threei} I'll be darned if I can explain how that way is different from one day thingy :)
[08:56] {Threei} I can list a few things of course
[08:57] {Threei} but they won't be all there is to it
[08:57] {magoo} SOLF gapping 3 more
[08:58] {magoo} vad, news CTRP?
[08:59] {hawkfan4} 08:55 CTRP Ctrip.com executives arrested for extortion - Pacific Epoch (61.38 )
[08:59] {magoo} try hawh:)
[08:59] {magoo} hawk
[08:59] {hawkfan4} np :)
[08:59] {Threei} ty hawk, don't have it on my wires
[09:01] {Threei} isn't it china stock mags?
[09:01] {BillyD} Vad, maybe GERN will pullback
[09:02] {Threei} hope so
[09:03] {Threei} thing just couldn't wait for us could it
[09:05] {Threei} SOLF pulled back into support
[09:05] {Threei} if you want it, close to 28.50 is where you need to try it
[09:05] {Threei} just be careful, it's very volatile even during normal market
[09:06] {dptl} good morning all
[09:06] {Threei} dp :)
[09:06] {BillyD} dp
[09:06] {magoo} pd(:
[09:07] {dino} gm all
[09:07] {Threei} dino :)
[09:07] {BillyD} hi dino
[09:08] {magoo} in out SOLF
[09:08] {magoo} ty vad
[09:08] {Threei} lo, me too
[09:08] {magoo} plus .40
[09:08] {Threei} 28.75 - 29.40
[09:08] {Threei} .65
[09:08] {magoo} 29-219.40
[09:08] {Threei} welcome sir :)
[09:08] {magoo} lol 29.40
[09:08] {magoo} i WISH other
[09:09] {liranm} Good morning everyone
[09:09] {liranm} Are you trading pre market?
[09:09] {Threei} liranm, welcome to the room
[09:09] {Threei} sometimes... when there is a clear trade
[09:09] {Threei} and we feel adventurous
[09:09] {Threei} (which magoo always does)
[09:10] {magoo} yes, please beware of magoo
[09:10] {magoo} seriously
[09:10] {Threei} yeah, he is scary
[09:10] {Threei} and slaps living daylight out of people
[09:10] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] {Threei} there
[09:10] * magoo slaps Raven around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] * magoo slaps BillyD around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] {Threei} slapping rage is coming
[09:10] * magoo slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] {Threei} that's his morning warm-up
[09:11] * magoo slaps jmb around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] * magoo slaps jmb around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] * magoo slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] * magoo slaps cosmo around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] * magoo slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] * magoo slaps fraser around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] {magoo} feel much better
[09:12] {Threei} I feel good knowing that we serve as a lightning rod for potentially violent man
[09:12] {Threei} he sklaps us, he doesn't need to go out and slap someone with real fish
[09:12] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:13] {BillyD} yes, keeps him from doing real harm in society
[09:13] {Threei} and this is contagious
[09:13] {magoo} HEY whats that for?
[09:13] {Threei} lol
[09:13] {bruce} free gift mags
[09:13] {Threei} gosh, for an outside observer we must look like mental asylum
[09:13] {Threei} (for inside one too)
[09:14] {magoo} oh oh, big brother is watching us vad?
[09:14] {lumdus} yeah, sure looks like a mental asylum here
[09:15] {Threei} don't know mags... but the day they knock on your door and handcuff you will be the day we know for sure
[09:15] {magoo} just remember, early bird gets worm..BUT..second mouse gets the cheese
[09:15] {Threei} and eventually worms get both bird and mouse
[09:15] {Threei} concluding natural cycle
[09:16] {BillyD} lol
[09:17] {Threei} CTRP WEAKNESS ATTRIBUTED TO A SHANGHAI NEWSPAPER REPORTING THAT TWO SENIOR MEMBERS OF THE TICKET DEPARTMENT TOOK KICKBACKS IN 2006
[09:17] {Threei} it is a chinese stock mags, careful about margin
[09:18] {cosmo} and msg
[09:18] {magoo} not in..ty
[09:18] {Threei} rofl
[09:18] {Threei} cosmo, that was the best one in a while
[09:18] {BillyD} you are amazingly consistent cosmo :)
[09:19] {cosmo} :)
[09:19] {cosmo} its morning
[09:19] {magoo} he would make a good hunter
[09:19] {magoo} cos sits quiet for long time..then strikes
[09:19] {cosmo} ADLR
[09:19] {magoo} POW!
[09:19] {Threei} and when he strikes he strikes good
[09:20] {Threei} CSIQ... 18 support so far
[09:20] {Threei} not that supports mean much on it,
[09:20] {Threei} buit they gove a good level for stop placement
[09:20] {Threei} give
[09:21] {Threei} and there is a nice bid at .15
[09:21] {Threei} and all the way down to 18
[09:21] {BillyD} do you see an entry?
[09:21] {BillyD} close to open...can do anything
[09:21] {Threei} sure
[09:22] {Threei} it can do anything anytime, it's a wild stock
[09:22] {esemde} morning all...feeling jet lagged....was in a recording studio until 12:30 last night....anything looking promising?
[09:22] {Threei} if you want to play it, take it here qwhen .30 gets hit, stop it out if it sells under 18
[09:22] {Threei} hi ese
[09:22] {Threei} we talked about you yesterday
[09:22] {Threei} lemme dig it out
[09:23] {esemde} oh...oh.....
[09:23] {Threei} [15:24] {Threei} OK where is ese
[09:23] {Threei} [15:24] {Threei} he gets back from work, sees CSIQ above 19
[09:23] {Threei} [15:25] {BillyD} see if he shows up early tomorrow
[09:23] {Threei} [15:25] {Threei} screams of joy cover whole distance from Willows beach to patience's haouse
[09:23] {Threei} [15:26] {Threei} mine is a bit farher away so I am not rushing out to buy earplugs
[09:23] {Threei} [15:27] {Threei} but if CSIQ goes to 20 maybe I should
[09:24] {Threei} be back in 5
[09:25] {esemde} I sold my mini swing trade yesterday at lunch at 19.26...+$4.75 100shs...
[09:25] {BillyD} niceola
[09:26] {lumdus} what's up with csco today ? nice pre-trading
[09:28] {esemde} no stress swing trade Billy
[09:30] {Threei} 12/04/07 04:30pm [CSCO] Names Padmasree Warrior as CTO
[09:31] {magoo} i wonder if CSIQ will follow SOLF today
[09:31] {magoo} disconnect so far
[09:33] {magoo} CSUN pop
[09:34] {Threei} CSUN .50 meltdown long half lot
[09:34] {Threei} if stays above .35
[09:34] {Threei} lost it
[09:35] {BillyD} hmmm...not here
[09:35] {Threei} ohh, sorry
[09:35] {Threei} was watching HOKU
[09:35] {BillyD} now it did
[09:35] {Threei} too many hot names
[09:35] {Threei} CSUN .60 rather
[09:36] {Threei} if not losing .40 anymore
[09:36] {magoo} huh?
[09:36] {magoo} i just hit .50
[09:36] {Threei} keep stop under .30 then
[09:36] {Threei} support on last pullback
[09:37] {magoo} yup
[09:38] {dptl} :qgen?
[09:38] {magoo} anyone having schwab server issues?dino question
[09:39] {Threei} chart's nice dp... volume is questionable
[09:39] {Threei} worth a try nonetheless
[09:39] {Threei} .79 stop
[09:40] {dptl} ty
[09:40] {Threei} let that big offer melt before you enter
[09:40] {Threei} SBSH at 23
[09:40] {magoo} symbol?
[09:41] {Threei} dp's QGEN magoo
[09:41] {Threei} not your kind
[09:41] {Threei} good boy CSUN, held support... now go
[09:41] {magoo} sbsh = ?
[09:41] {Threei} marketmaker
[09:41] {magoo} oh he he..i loaded it
[09:41] {Threei} ah
[09:41] {Threei} lol
[09:42] * Threei kicks CSUN in the rear for magoo
[09:42] {magoo} almost rinsed me
[09:42] {Threei} CSIQ .25 long half lot with stop under 19
[09:44] {magoo} missed entry
[09:44] {magoo} didn't chase
[09:45] {Threei} I had to get .30
[09:45] {Threei} offer disappeared while I typed
[09:45] {Threei} pullback is buyable
[09:45] {magoo} should i bag csun flat? my entry was wrong
[09:45] {Threei} as close to original entry as possible
[09:45] {BillyD} entry on CSIQ?
[09:45] {BillyD} .25
[09:46] {Threei} I wouldn't mags
[09:46] {Threei} it's holding very well and has a good chance still
[09:46] {magoo} ok
[09:47] {Threei} good pullback CSIQ
[09:47] {Threei} try to bid it
[09:47] {Threei} in .05
[09:47] {dino} ctrp hl sd .00
[09:47] {dino} was booted out
[09:48] {Threei} 18.85 stop
[09:49] {BillyD} in .07
[09:50] {Threei} CSUN lost it
[09:50] {Roman} HSOA long setup
[09:50] {Roman} small
[09:51] {Roman} in HSOA 1.46
[09:51] {dino} cov ctrp .50, +.50
[09:51] {dptl} coco?
[09:51] {Threei} stop to 18.99 CSIQ
[09:52] {Threei} smaller size dp, stop under .80
[09:53] {dptl} ty
[09:53] {BillyD} GERN PB
[09:54] {Roman} TIVO continuation
[09:54] {magoo} should bounce..solf did now
[09:54] {Roman} SIGM sqeezer
[09:55] {Threei} SOLF should help them all if goes above 30.50
[09:55] {Threei} and it looks very capable
[09:56] {Roman} SIGM aiming over 70
[09:56] {Threei} NQ helps too
[09:56] {Threei} half out CSIQ
[09:57] {magoo} out here .48
[09:57] {BillyD} out CSIQ .+.30 and .40
[09:57] {magoo} ty vad
[09:57] {Threei} welcome guys
[09:57] {BillyD} thx Vad
[09:58] {magoo} big delay between them..nice
[09:58] {Threei} CSIQ once again lives up to itas reputation of being a pullback stock
[09:58] {Threei} out in full .75
[09:58] {Threei} +.70
[09:58] {magoo} how many sh?
[09:59] {esemde} good work Vad
[09:59] {Threei} with such pullback I took 1000
[09:59] {Threei} normally I play half on it
[09:59] {magoo} lol..i had 900
[09:59] {Threei} but it was as safe as CSIQ ever gets
[09:59] {magoo} solf again
[10:00] {Threei} ESLR
[10:00] {Threei} wait
[10:00] {Threei} numbers on wire
[10:00] {Threei} *OCT FACTORY ORDERS: 0.5% V 0.0%E
[10:00] {Threei} NOV ISM NON-MANUFACTURING: 54.1 V 55.0E
[10:01] {Threei} - New Orders: 51.1 v 55.7 last
[10:01] {Threei} - Employment: 50.8 v 51.8 last
[10:01] {Threei} - Prices: 76.5 v 63.5 last
[10:01] {Threei} ASTI HEARING STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO TAKEOVER CHATTER
[10:01] {Threei} solar stock AND takeover chatter?
[10:02] {Threei} small shares long
[10:02] {Threei} stop under 21
[10:02] {dptl} out coco+.19
[10:02] {Threei} wtg dp
[10:02] {magoo} nice dp
[10:02] {dptl} ty
[10:03] {Threei} SOLF retreated into support, bouncing now
[10:03] {BillyD} in asti .12
[10:03] {Threei} let's see if it takes ASTI higher
[10:04] {lumdus} stop under 21 for what ?
[10:04] {Threei} ASTI
[10:05] {magoo} whats your entry privce cvad?
[10:06] {Threei} got .17
[10:06] {Threei} got .17want exit above .50
[10:06] {Threei} maybe too optimistic
[10:07] {BillyD} out .45 and .47 thx Vad
[10:07] {Threei} :)
[10:07] {Threei} here we go
[10:07] {dptl} nice
[10:07] {Threei} out .62
[10:07] {magoo} OUT ty
[10:08] {Threei} gotta be more careful I think... it's became too easy
[10:08] {BillyD} mt reactions slow this morning for some reason
[10:09] {Threei} and when it becomes too easy, you know what happens next
[10:09] {magoo} yes vad...mama mkt does not like to reward
[10:09] {Threei} siren song
[10:09] {magoo} she likes to dish out...PAIN
[10:09] {Threei} "money is being given left and right, rush in everyone"
[10:09] {Threei} lure'em in, smack'em good
[10:10] {magoo} remember..every trade...someone else is buying or selling yours
[10:11] {Threei} ugh ESLR
[10:11] {magoo} UGH asti
[10:11] {dptl} lol
[10:12] {magoo} no laughing..i can't concentrate
[10:12] {Threei} as canadian leader of opposition says complaining about prime-minister: why, why???
[10:13] {lumdus} 3i, if you can do a favor - when getting in a stock, instead of sayin in .35 say in asti .35
[10:13] {Threei} it's always a continuation of previous mention
[10:13] {dptl} mnst?
[10:13] {Threei} they move fast, I am trying to cut down on typing time
[10:13] {lumdus} but there is a lot of chat here .. and i am missing
[10:14] {magoo} call has gotta be fast or we miss entry lum
[10:14] {BillyD} it's tough
[10:14] {Threei} [10:01] {Threei} ASTI HEARING STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO TAKEOVER CHATTER
[10:14] {Threei} [10:01] {Threei} solar stock AND takeover chatter?
[10:14] {Threei} [10:02] {Threei} small shares long
[10:14] {Threei} [10:02] {Threei} stop under 21
[10:14] {magoo} you'll gety hang of it
[10:14] {magoo} takes time..don't chase
[10:15] {Threei} ALTI... what's up Roman?
[10:15] {lumdus} magoo, tx... then let's limit chatting time
[10:15] {BillyD} lumdus....highlite Vaad's name
[10:15] {Roman} not sure Vad, just an alternative energy
[10:16] {Threei} do you see my typing in blue, lumdus?
[10:16] {lumdus} yes
[10:16] {dino} hl s vsnt .94, stop .26
[10:16] {Threei} that should help to filter comments out
[10:16] {BillyD} or put rest of us on ignore
[10:16] {magoo} billy, u see my typing in green?
[10:16] {BillyD} no
[10:16] {magoo} good, its black lol
[10:16] {dptl} lol
[10:16] {magoo} CSIQ long here
[10:16] {magoo} .35
[10:18] {Threei} I'll ask admin if it's possible to echo my comments to #floor
[10:18] {Threei} so they are easy to see uncluttered
[10:20] {magoo} 1:1 csiq
[10:20] {magoo} i wait .69
[10:21] {magoo} stop .21
[10:22] {BillyD} just highlighted your name in pink magoo...not sure why
[10:23] {BillyD} actually it's orange
[10:23] {BillyD} Vad...u interested in GERN
[10:24] {Threei} with .89 stop, sure
[10:24] {Threei} nice pullback
[10:24] {BillyD} magoo just bought it
[10:24] {Threei} lol
[10:27] {liranm} The market is dead
[10:27] {BillyD} was fast this morning
[10:27] {magoo} hanukkah
[10:30] {magoo} meaning thin...mkt players at temple i guess..i not familiar w/the religion
[10:30] {magoo} if it was a catholic holiday...we'd all be at the pub lol
[10:31] {BillyD} lol
[10:33] {Threei} DOE CRUDE: -7.9M V -1.2ME; GASOLINE: +4M V +600KE; DISTILLATES: +1.43 MV -300KE; UTILIZATION: 89.4% V 89.5%E
[10:33] {Threei} Crude: -8M
[10:33] {Threei} Distillate:+744K
[10:33] {Threei} Gasoline:+3.5M
[10:34] {Threei} why didn't I hold TIVO overnight... I would be up whooping 3 cents
[10:35] {magoo} fear of being down .05 cents vad...stick to rulkes
[10:35] {Threei} lol
[10:35] {Threei} amazing how things slowed down to a crawl almost instantly
[10:36] {Threei} look at SOLF selling
[10:36] {BillyD} yeah, lighting fast at first
[10:36] {Threei} [10:08] {Threei} gotta be more careful I think... it's became too easy
[10:36] {Threei} [10:09] {Threei} and when it becomes too easy, you know what happens next
[10:36] {Threei} was it timely warning or what
[10:37] {BillyD} amazingly
[10:37] {BillyD} breathing I think
[10:40] {dino} sfly s .06
[10:40] {Roman} CPSL
[10:40] {Roman} long
[10:41] {Threei} time to bounce SOLF
[10:41] {Roman} small cap china on radar
[10:42] {Roman} in full size
[10:42] {Roman} CBAK radar
[10:43] {Threei} right on cue... if you went for SOLF, take profit here
[10:43] {Roman} long CNTF small
[10:44] {magoo} nice read...i didn't take..loaded it
[10:44] {magoo} hesitated
[10:44] {magoo} u got a point
[10:44] {Threei} one of those where it's impossible to call to a cent, gotta go with feel
[10:44] {Threei} either you feel it or stay away
[10:45] {Roman} JRJC
[10:45] {Roman} animal
[10:45] {Roman} in 25.15
[10:47] {Roman} CTEL radar
[10:48] {BillyD} 1/2 lot cpsl .68 here stop under .60
[10:49] {Roman} small cap china plays are waking up again
[10:49] {Threei} IOTN?
[10:49] {Roman} NINE, HIHO, CLWT
[10:50] {Roman} JADE spike
[10:50] {BillyD} otu half here
[10:50] {Roman} KONG radar
[10:51] {Roman} LOCM may wake up
[10:51] {Roman} NINE waking up
[10:52] {Roman} ALTH continuation, slow
[10:52] {BillyD} out rest..thx Roman
[10:52] {Threei} very nice
[10:52] {Roman} out 1/2
[10:52] {BillyD} it just keeps eating offers
[10:53] {Threei} Roman picked up the battle horn spilled from my hands
[10:53] {BillyD} but I remember its nature
[10:53] {Roman} CTEL got room too
[10:53] {BillyD} blow the horn lol
[10:53] {Threei} see Billy... intrution kicks in
[10:54] {BillyD} yes
[10:54] {lumdus} are the qqqq's a hedge for the downsie ?
[10:54] {Roman} CLWT
[10:54] {Roman} has another spike in it probably
[10:55] {BillyD} action this morning was so fast I had a hard time concentrating or finding feel
[10:55] {Threei} not sure what you mean lumdus
[10:55] {Roman} ASIA doing its thing
[10:55] {Roman} very nice slow riser
[10:56] {Roman} XFML
[10:56] {Roman} long
[10:56] {Roman} off 6.40
[10:56] {Roman} fast spiker
[10:56] {BillyD} 12.95 ASIA 52 wk H
[10:57] {magoo} in xfml.40
[11:01] {Threei} NVDA .16 long
[11:01] {Roman} CHDX another china on radar
[11:01] {Threei} 33.99 stop
[11:04] {lumdus} good 3i .. now i can follow
[11:08] {Threei} stop to .09 NVDA
[11:09] {BillyD} thinking same on stop
[11:09] {Threei} took that .14 offer, great confirmation of strength
[11:09] {BillyD} yes and with NQ drop held well
[11:09] {Threei} still needs NQ help but obviously is a good candidate
[11:10] {Threei} oh well
[11:10] {Threei} next
[11:10] {BillyD} yup
[11:10] {BillyD} what stops are for
[11:10] {BillyD} :)
[11:10] {Threei} good stop tightening
[11:11] {Threei} would get stopped anyway, why not save 10 cents
[11:11] {BillyD} guy at .14 crying
[11:12] {lumdus} nice trading with nvda .. keep the losess to a minumu
[11:12] {lumdus} in csco .55
[11:13] {Roman} KONG took off
[11:13] {Roman} JRJC reloading
[11:13] {dino} tbsi l .75
[11:16] {Threei} CBAK?
[11:16] {Roman} small cap china
[11:17] {dino} stopped tbsi -.27
[11:18] {magoo} out xfml .61 TY rfr
[11:18] {Roman} yw
[11:19] {magoo} yw=you wuss?
[11:20] {Roman} :)
[11:20] {dino} lol
[11:20] {Roman} no decent profit
[11:20] {Roman} observing XING another small cap china
[11:20] {Roman} JRJC CHNR leaders
[11:21] {Threei} according to karl marx no such thing as decent profit
[11:22] {dino} getting deep on us 3i?
[11:22] {Threei} showing off
[11:23] {Threei} wow CPSL
[11:23] {magoo} vad..somewhere gonna be one nice short scalp chnr
[11:23] {magoo} u watching?
[11:24] {magoo} scalp
[11:24] {Roman} FFHL another china play
[11:24] {Threei} scary stock
[11:24] {Threei} and chek up on marginability
[11:24] {Threei} chinese one
[11:24] {Roman} GRRF china
[11:24] {magoo} "they all sink down here" pennywise {stephen king}
[11:25] {dino} float magoo
[11:25] {Threei} fantastic call on CPSL and small chinas Roman
[11:26] {Roman} out remaining CPSL +.68
[11:26] {BillyD} nice R
[11:26] {Roman} ty
[11:26] {lumdus} roman on my screen is brown .. is he part of RT team ?
[11:27] {Roman} NINE playing too
[11:27] {BillyD} Vad...still reading NVDA?
[11:30] {Roman} not sure if SEED is also part of china
[11:30] {Roman} CTEL
[11:30] {Roman} getty read
[11:30] {esemde} Vad can i have your opinion on CSUN ...am thking long on this pullback
[11:32] {Roman} LULU
[11:32] {Roman} magoo your baby
[11:32] {Threei} NVDA no
[11:32] {Roman} feels like getting ready for a pop
[11:32] {Threei} CSUN... it will all depend on whether mania is still there, ese
[11:33] {Threei} yes lumdus
[11:33] {esemde} message received an noted...
[11:34] {Threei} I would try to track down its leader and how it follows it ese
[11:34] {Threei} SOLF probably
[11:36] {magoo} CSUNB was garbage from go
[11:36] {magoo} csun
[11:43] {BillyD} trades come in flurries it seems
[11:45] {dino} vsnt bstop to .91
[11:45] {Threei} NINE moving... another Roman's baby
[11:45] {dino} stopped slippage-.12
[11:47] {Roman} IMMR slow mover
[11:47] {Roman} long setup very dlow
[11:48] {Roman} small off 13.75
[11:51] {Threei} ESLR... let's short some with .21 stop
[11:52] {Threei} .08 trigger
[11:53] {dptl} short .05
[11:55] {Threei} SOLF sells down nicely
[11:55] {BillyD} yes
[11:55] {Threei} follow the suit ESLR
[11:56] {dptl} hows nvda of .25?
[11:56] {Threei} I don't have a read on it dp
[11:56] {dptl} ok
[11:57] {Threei} with these stocks like NVDA, BRCM... if they follow the read, it happens on a first try
[11:57] {BillyD} I've played a coupkle of times in this range DP....one min it has feel to go and next no feel
[11:57] {Threei} if they shake you out, then return into profit zone, shake again - they are mostly unreadable
[11:57] {dptl} i see
[11:58] {Threei} I am trying them, if they work - I continue. If not - drop them for the day
[11:59] {Threei} this ios how we exploited NVDA for a few days last week while it worked
[11:59] {Threei} and dropped it like worn out suit the day it stopped
[11:59] {BillyD} kick it to the curb
[12:00] {dino} sfly cov flat
[12:05] {magoo} solf recover
[12:06] {magoo} 29 easy...risky
[12:07] {Threei} gosh CPSL... is it for real
[12:07] {BillyD} it changed today
[12:09] {BillyD} at least for today
[12:10] {magoo} [12:08] {magoo} 29 easy...risky
[12:10] {Threei} die already ESLR
[12:11] {BillyD} sheesh
[12:11] {BillyD} quit flashing offers Vad :)
[12:11] {dptl} ok now
[12:11] {Threei} lol... not my style
[12:12] {BillyD} lol
[12:12] {magoo} enlighten me...{easy to do btw}
[12:12] {magoo} if it follows SOLF...solf moving north
[12:12] {Threei} it bounced too
[12:12] {Threei} but kept under resistance for now
[12:13] {BillyD} it seems ESLR doesn't follow normal trading
[12:13] {BillyD} imo
[12:13] {BillyD} mind of its own always
[12:14] {Threei} OK, make up that mind of your own ESLR... and die
[12:15] {magoo} diediEdIEDIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[12:15] {Threei} gosh... you scared it
[12:15] {dino} vsnt s hl .57, stop .86
[12:17] {Threei} TREASURY SEC. PAULSON: SEES U.S. REGULATORY OVERHAUL PLAN IN EARLY 2008
[12:17] {Threei} what is it they overhaul this time
[12:19] * Threei puts rat poison in ESLR's soup
[12:19] {magoo} as magoo holds eslr down
[12:19] {magoo} and forces open jaw
[12:19] {BillyD} RFLOL
[12:19] {Threei} and shoves the soup down its throat?
[12:19] {magoo} u do that
[12:20] {magoo} i holding down
[12:20] {Threei} dp, hit it in solar plexus so it swallows the soup
[12:20] {dptl} lol
[12:20] {magoo} and patience puts splinters under its fingernails
[12:20] {Threei} we are so kind and gentle
[12:21] {magoo} once soup empty, vad smasjhes glass cup over its head
[12:21] {Threei} probably trail stop to .16
[12:21] {Threei} if all this violence doesn't kill it, it's a Rasputin's son
[12:22] {magoo} i kmow that tale well
[12:22] {BillyD} out tad here
[12:22] {magoo} tasr and all
[12:22] {magoo} oops..tsar
[12:22] {Threei} lol
[12:23] {magoo} god dam stox have warped my mind
[12:23] {Threei} if tsar had tasr... who knows, maybe there wouldn't be revolution
[12:23] {magoo} taser wasn't leading russian family
[12:23] {dptl} biding .85
[12:24] {magoo} me .89
[12:24] {Threei} who said violence doesn't solve anything
[12:24] {magoo} OUT
[12:24] {Threei} sure did for us
[12:24] {magoo} ty vad
[12:24] {Threei} welcome sir
[12:24] {BillyD} out rest thx Vad and rest of violent crew.....viloence pays
[12:24] {dptl} out thnx
[12:25] {magoo} in dollars
[12:27] {BillyD} magoo...you done hunting this week
[12:29] {esemde} nice work with ESLR boys....
[12:29] * magoo slaps esemde around a bit with a large trout
[12:29] {Threei} you mean trading or torture ese?
[12:29] {esemde} wobble wooble wooble.......
[12:30] {esemde} sorry just recovering from slap
[12:30] {Threei} lol
[12:33] {Threei} oh how long I waited for this:
[12:33] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:33] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:33] {Threei} high five
[12:34] {magoo} gotcha
[12:34] {LaserDave1} hi guys
[12:34] {LaserDave1} nice to see you to
[12:34] {Threei} hi dave :)
[12:34] {BillyD} no wonder Laserdave doesn't come around much
[12:34] {magoo} hi dave, how u doing?
[12:34] {LaserDave1} i am good thanks
[12:34] {Threei} what can we do... this is how we express joy and happiness you instill in us
[12:34] {LaserDave1} how r u guys
[12:34] {LaserDave1} :)
[12:34] {magoo} ok
[12:35] {BillyD} CSIQ if large offer .5?
[12:35] {BillyD} .05
[12:35] {LaserDave1} what a strong market today
[12:35] {Threei} half lot Billy
[12:35] {Threei} why not
[12:35] {BillyD} yes
[12:35] {Threei} but only if it's taken for real
[12:35] {Threei} not if just cancels
[12:35] {BillyD} ok
[12:36] {Threei} stop under 18.90
[12:36] {Threei} serving as invalidating point as well
[12:37] {Roman} out JRJC +1.6
[12:37] {Threei} wtg
[12:38] {magoo} BEAUTY
[12:38] {BillyD} CBAK
[12:38] {Threei} who put fire under Roman?
[12:38] {magoo} WOW CHNR
[12:38] {Roman} just china mania, happens once in a while
[12:38] {magoo} thats why no shotrt huh vad?
[12:38] {Threei} just want to handle you more fuel and encourage doing this every day
[12:39] {Threei} I guess mags
[12:40] {magoo} i mean..i was thinking short in 22 area
[12:40] {magoo} was up 5 there
[12:41] {Threei} so now it's up 9
[12:41] {Threei} what's the biggie
[12:41] {Threei} what's 4 points betweeen friends
[12:42] {Threei} I hate shorting mania stocks on a first day of mania
[12:42] {magoo} my point was YOU were correct
[12:42] {magoo} i woulda got it wrong
[12:43] {magoo} BUT, it won't stay up 98 allday
[12:43] {magoo} 9
[12:43] {Threei} yeah, I got it... I am just making sure I don't let anyone forget that I was right {G}
[12:43] {Threei} (and you wonder why people dislike me?)
[12:44] {Threei} {magoo} BUT, it won't stay up 9 allday {--- no, it goes to 10 and 11
[12:44] {magoo} they dislike u becauase.......well.fat drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life son...TRUST ME
[12:44] {LaserDave1} im in
[12:44] {Threei} no???
[12:44] {LaserDave1} just got it
[12:45] {LaserDave1} target vad?
[12:45] {Threei} but I am ugly too magoo... does that count for anything?
[12:45] {LaserDave1} barely got it
[12:45] {LaserDave1} was almost all gone
[12:45] {magoo} i thinking a short dave somewhere
[12:45] {Threei} CSIQ dave?
[12:45] {LaserDave1} yes
[12:45] {magoo} oh, i CHNR
[12:45] {Threei} half out into such spike is what I would do
[12:46] {Threei} try .25
[12:46] {Threei} stop to 18.99 for the balance and see if it can get more momo
[12:48] {Threei} PARL?
[12:49] {LaserDave1} ok im out
[12:49] {LaserDave1} thatnks for the trade
[12:49] {LaserDave1} wasnt huge
[12:49] {LaserDave1} but nice to get a quick winner
[12:49] {LaserDave1} :)
[12:50] {LaserDave1} got .18 .16 .23 .24
[12:50] {LaserDave1} a little bit of everythig
[12:55] {Threei} :)
[12:56] {Roman} sharp drop in futures
[12:56] {Roman} don's see news
[12:58] {Roman} TECHX Finance XLF drops 1.1% off session high after capital shortfall headline on MBI -Update- -Technical-
[12:58] {magoo} so...watcvh chnr short
[13:01] {Threei} good one magoo
[13:01] {magoo} took 26
[13:01] {BillyD} Laserdave see dcc
[13:02] {Threei} mine too
[13:02] {esemde} been a slice ladies and gentlemen...see you on the flip side............music lingo....do you like it?
[13:02] {Threei} wow magmeister
[13:02] {Threei} take care ese :)
[13:03] {esemde} see ya vad
[13:03] {Threei} cover time
[13:03] {magoo} out .60
[13:03] {magoo} 24.60
[13:03] {Threei} beautiful
[13:03] {magoo} plus something good
[13:03] {Threei} +1.40
[13:03] {Threei} here, I did math for you
[13:03] {magoo} oh.57 out
[13:03] {Threei} 1.43
[13:04] {magoo} how u figure that}??u
[13:04] {magoo} lol:)
[13:04] {Threei} I practice every day in front of mirror
[13:04] {Threei} I'll be back in 40 min guys
[13:05] {Threei} be good
[13:05] {magoo} u better
[13:12] {Chaeron} LaserDave - dcc?
[13:15] {dino} mbi blood
[13:24] {lumdus} so what's next up/down or sideways
[13:25] {BillyD} who knows
[13:25] {BillyD} just be ready for whatever
[13:25] {BillyD} or ask magoo
[13:26] {magoo} roman the hot hand today imho
[13:32] {Roman} don't forget magoo, I am BEN AF. i am always hot
[13:32] {BillyD} KONG keeps me interested
[13:32] {magoo} oh..i not forget lol
[13:33] {BillyD} rfofl
[13:33] {BillyD} R any read KONG
[13:34] {Chaeron} I'm really sorry... Roman - BEN AF... does that stand for Ben Afflick?
[13:34] {Roman} KONG looks decent for continuation
[13:34] {BillyD} thx
[13:37] {Roman} yes, Chaeron
[13:42] {Threei} back
[13:43] {Threei} 37 min
[13:43] {Threei} punctuality is politeness of royalty
[13:44] {magoo} :)
[13:53] {Threei} RIMM
[13:53] {Threei} BLACKBERRY WILL DEBUT HANDSETS IN CHINA BY END OF THE MONTH THROUGH EXCLUSIVE CHINA MOBILE - INTERFAX/CHINA BUSINESS NEWS- reportedly they already have 10K pre-orders
[13:58] {BillyD} those ASIA selloffs enough to keep me away
[14:00] {magoo} CHNR new high
[14:01] {magoo} animal
[14:01] {BillyD} u n
[14:02] {BillyD} does any follow w/ delay
[14:02] {magoo} well...i did not post..took 25.84 exit 26.80
[14:02] {BillyD} very nice
[14:02] {magoo} sorry..but riski..didn't want to hurt ya
[14:02] {magoo} only 400 sh
[14:04] {BillyD} is it riskier than trading CSIQ
[14:04] {BillyD} I haven't watched it today
[14:06] {magoo} i believe so
[14:06] {BillyD} ok
[14:07] {BillyD} bigger spread changes I see
[14:07] {magoo} look at spreads of both
[14:07] {BillyD} more than I like
[14:13] {BillyD} eyeing anything Vad
[14:13] {Threei} looking
[14:13] {BillyD} TIVO..
[14:13] {BillyD} hehe
[14:18] {dptl} damn it.....i just slowly killing my self.....
[14:18] {BillyD} forcing it?
[14:20] {dptl} have hard time just to stay green these days,loosing almost every day
[14:20] {Threei} with the calls we make these days?
[14:20] {bruce} sorry dp
[14:20] {bruce} thqat happened to me last month
[14:20] {bruce} 7 losindg days in row
[14:20] {Threei} I don't get it... are you taking opposite side of what we call or what
[14:20] {dino} 2 in row for me dp
[14:21] {BillyD} Vad's calls on fire lately
[14:21] {magoo} short chnr loss of 26 risky'
[14:21] {Threei} no seriously guys... how do you manage to do that?
[14:21] {liranm} Sometimes your calls have large spreads which is difficult to catch
[14:21] {dino} yes vad doing well, just not my system
[14:22] {Threei} so you skip the one you can't get in
[14:22] {dptl} thats the only good trades....all i pick my self -all bad
[14:22] {Threei} why do you continue oushing with your picks then
[14:23] {Threei} instead of trading ours wirth real money and switching to paper with yours
[14:23] {Threei} until you get them right?
[14:23] {dptl} thats it no more
[14:24] {dino} morm blood
[14:24] {magoo} CHNR
[14:25] {BillyD} don't have to wait long magoo
[14:25] {magoo} OUT .13., + .77
[14:25] {dino} gj
[14:25] {magoo} uy take it billy
[14:25] {magoo} ?
[14:25] {BillyD} no
[14:25] {magoo} i posted real time??
[14:26] {BillyD} with spread I wasn't watching
[14:26] {magoo} .87 acytually, need vad teach me figures
[14:26] {BillyD} decided not for me
[14:27] {magoo} well, i was being careful cayuse thought u were with me
[14:27] {magoo} no[prob though
[14:27] {magoo} widsh u went
[14:27] {BillyD} appreciate it
[14:27] {magoo} fast sucjker tho...got to lay out exit
[14:27] {magoo} look now
[14:27] {BillyD} I know
[14:28] {magoo} vad..look at my typing in that seqwuence...SLAOP me
[14:28] {BillyD} what kind of stop you have .50 or so
[14:28] {bruce} dna big dump dino
[14:28] {magoo} yeah, only 400 shares gives u room
[14:28] {Threei} you can't even spell word slap... kind of says it all about your typing {G}
[14:29] {magoo} $200 dollar stop
[14:29] {magoo} can get points tho
[14:29] {BillyD} yes its all relevant
[14:30] {dino} wow dna
[14:30] {magoo} small shares avoid the rinse..i try to get read which overall direction...if wrong cut $200 stop
[14:30] {dino} reject cancer drug
[14:30] {lumdus} dna still trading ?
[14:30] {BillyD} yes....you have to diligently watch it to read
[14:30] {Threei} DNA
[14:30] {Threei} FDA PANEL SAYS AVASTIN SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED FOR NEW INDICATION - WIRE HEADLINE
[14:31] {dino} 2 year low
[14:31] {lumdus} is it halted ?
[14:32] {Threei} probably, I don't see tape scrolling
[14:32] {dino} looks like it
[14:32] {lumdus} Hope nobody is in it
[14:33] {bruce} any reaqd mbi vad?
[14:33] {magoo} i just said to dino watch the halt
[14:34] {magoo} i got hooked in a few of them remember vad
[14:34] {Threei} [MBI] Moody's sees greater risk of capital shortfall greater than previously thought; now sees capital shortfall at MBIA 'somewhat likely'
[14:35] {Threei} why do you need to get yourself in the middle of this crap bruce
[14:35] {Threei} yeah magoo... nerve-wrecking
[14:35] {Threei} TREASURY'S PAULSON TO HOLD PRESS CONF ON THRS AT 1:45PMET TO DISCUSS MORTGAGE RELIEF PLAN
[14:36] {bruce} cause it's moving vad - on high volume
[14:36] {bruce} thought it had good short potentiql
[14:36] {magoo} stalking CHNR short with this mkt collaspe
[14:36] {magoo} careful..i'll post if i go
[14:37] {Threei} it very well might... but did you see it just teleporting 25 cents higher?
[14:37] {Threei} from 26.75 to 27 with no trades inbetween
[14:37] {magoo} easier battles is vad point if i may boss
[14:37] {Threei} how do you trade that
[14:37] {Threei} exactly
[14:38] {Threei} DNA TRADING HALTED: NEWS PENDING
[14:38] {bruce} k - I didn't see that
[14:38] {lumdus} .35 cents spread, how can you even look
[14:38] {bruce} it looks clean on my charts and level 2
[14:38] {BillyD} lol
[14:39] {BillyD} only .69 spread on CHNR for a sec there
[14:39] {Threei} yeah, that's magoo's idea of easy battle :)
[14:39] {BillyD} he is fearless
[14:40] {BillyD} lol
[14:40] {BillyD} he likes to wrastle
[14:40] {lumdus} i wont even watch those stock let along trade them
[14:40] {Threei} he has procedure of adrenalin removal from his sytem performed every morning
[14:40] {magoo} who u guys talking about? ben?
[14:41] {magoo} in my defense...2 of those shorts i posted real time
[14:41] {magoo} 1 i did not
[14:41] {bruce} I think they're talking bout you mags
[14:41] {magoo} NO
[14:41] {magoo} really??
[14:42] {BillyD} if they are your style magoo, trade 'em
[14:43] {magoo} can't make me....
[14:44] {BillyD} don't have to lol
[14:44] {BillyD} hehe
[14:48] {magoo} i luv the infinate wisdom behind a halt
[14:49] {magoo} forces u to stay in and get creamed
[14:49] {BillyD} sweat longer
[14:49] {magoo} not gonna let u exit and see what happens
[14:49] {magoo} poor bastard..u were in before news so u staying in
[14:49] {BillyD} the damage only gets worse
[14:51] {dino} vsnt bstop to .06
[14:51] {BillyD} CSIQ getting a little beating here
[14:51] {bruce} vad - I'm trying to understand stock selection
[14:52] {bruce} csiq anf csun both had bigger speads and volatility than mbi
[14:52] {bruce} so why trade them but not mbi?
[14:52] {Threei} they had mania on their side
[14:52] {bruce} k
[14:52] {Threei} huge momo
[14:52] {bruce} more momo in move?
[14:52] {Threei} clear direction
[14:53] {Threei} support on everyu puillback
[14:53] {Threei} new highs all the time
[14:53] {Threei} look at MBI
[14:53] {bruce} got it on sreen
[14:54] {bruce} looks likemostly new lowws
[14:54] {Threei} 25 cents up and down with no rhyme or rhythm
[14:54] {Threei} dunno... just not my cup of tea
[14:55] {Threei} if you have read on it, why not... i don't
[14:56] {dino} vsnt bstop to .90
[15:01] {bruce} k- thanks vad - just trying to figure out how you select
[15:02] {dino} back in 10\
[15:02] {Threei} hurry dino
[15:02] {dino} vsnt hard stop to .86
[15:03] {Threei} DNA HEARING DEFENDED AT GOLDMAN SACHS
[15:03] {Threei} sachs haven't managed to dump all they held?
[15:04] {BillyD} say it ain't so :)
[15:05] {Threei} bruce... tell me you saw it just now on MBI
[15:06] {Threei} Billy, what's your opinion
[15:06] {bruce} I'm watching it
[15:06] {BillyD} MBI
[15:06] {Threei} if I call TIVO now, will magoo slap the living hell out of me?
[15:07] {bruce} looks like a normal retracement
[15:07] {Threei} normal?
[15:07] {bruce} no call long or short at moment to my eye
[15:07] {BillyD} lol
[15:07] {Threei} I don't think you watched it real time :)
[15:08] {Threei} it just disappeared from under 26 and resurfaced at 26.40s
[15:08] {Threei} I don't know how to trade this
[15:08] {liranm} What about Tivo?
[15:09] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[15:09] {Threei} way too slow liranm... not something we would want to get stuck in,
[15:09] {Threei} it can hold you a hostage for entire day, and we are in the last hour now
[15:09] {dino} out vsnt w/major slippage, ave .10, +.47
[15:09] {magoo} which stock vad, symbol?
[15:09] {liranm} OK
[15:10] {Threei} on top of that, it has disgusting habit to dive sharply
[15:10] {Threei} it's a pullback stock, not breakout
[15:10] {magoo} [15:11] {magoo} which stock vad, symbol?
[15:10] {Threei} ?
[15:10] {BillyD} hehe
[15:10] {BillyD} which slow one
[15:10] {Threei} what are you asking about?
[15:10] {Threei} about one I will never ever mention to you?
[15:10] {magoo} } on top of that, it has disgusting habit to dive sharply
[15:10] {magoo} [15:12] {Threei} it's a pullback stock, not
[15:11] {Threei} yeah right
[15:11] {Threei} I am not that gullible
[15:11] {magoo} u good :)
[15:11] {Threei} :)
[15:11] {magoo} i have u highlited and everything
[15:11] {BillyD} rofl
[15:12] {BillyD} good try magoo
[15:12] {BillyD} thought he was gonna bite
[15:12] {magoo} me too
[15:12] {magoo} i was grinning ear to ear in anxiuos abarttement
[15:12] {Roman} dino, did u try the new schwab platform?
[15:12] {Threei} and I disappointed you by showing higher IQ than fish
[15:13] {magoo} then what???
[15:14] {magoo} [15:15] {magoo} then what???
[15:14] {BillyD} CPSL again
[15:15] {dino} rfr, how do i tell?
[15:15] {Roman} that mean you haven't
[15:15] {dino} i download everything the send
[15:15] {dino} they
[15:15] {Roman} i am really not happy about this change
[15:16] {dino} what has changed?
[15:16] {Roman} it's a new platform
[15:17] {Roman} i'll play around with it tomorrow
[15:18] {dino} i'm not on it yet
[15:18] {magoo} vad, + 11
[15:18] {Roman} CyberTrader Pro will no longer function after this friday
[15:18] {Threei} on what magoo?
[15:19] {dino} ok, i'll im them
[15:20] {dino} i'm on street smart pro
[15:21] {magoo} i said earlier..won't hold 9..u said 10 or 11? both right CHNR
[15:21] {Threei} oh yes
[15:22] {magoo} 29 on deck
[15:22] {Threei} CPSL feels like one more run in cards
[15:22] {cosmo} TIVO too?
[15:22] * magoo slaps cosmo around a bit with a large trout
[15:22] {bruce} is there a street dumb amateur?
[15:22] {BillyD} see an entry on CPSL
[15:22] {cosmo} ...sorry
[15:22] {dino} lol
[15:23] {Threei} can't find entry for CPSL
[15:23] {BillyD} it's tough
[15:23] {magoo} with u vad
[15:23] {magoo} let me know
[15:26] {dino} rfr street smart pro is fine, cyber merging into it. i've been on pro for 8 months
[15:27] {dino} streetsmart
[15:27] {Threei} mags... it's valid as long as holding above .70
[15:27] {Roman} ok, i'll check it out but they told me it's different
[15:27] {dino} cedc
[15:27] {Roman} got to leave a bit early today, have a good day everyone
[15:28] {dino} take care, good job
[15:28] {Threei} take care roman, thanks
[15:28] {Threei} so get it where you can as close to stop level as possible
[15:28] {bruce} bye roman
[15:28] {magoo} nice work roman
[15:28] {bruce} you like cpsl as pullback close to .70vad?
[15:29] {Threei} yes if buying returns
[15:29] {Threei} not just buying on price alone
[15:29] {Threei} so, .76 long if stays above .70
[15:29] {Threei} .69 stop'
[15:30] {magoo} well.77 prints just now
[15:30] {liranm} Symbol?
[15:30] {Threei} invalidated anyway
[15:30] {Threei} lol
[15:30] {Threei} CPSL was in discussion
[15:31] {cosmo} SOLF not having fun
[15:32] {Threei} SEED?
[15:32] {Threei} what happened here?
[15:34] {Threei} HEARING CO. MADE POSTIIVE COMMENTS REGARDING PRICING AT AN ASIA CONFERENCE
[15:36] {dino} morn l .88
[15:36] {dino} vmed l .70
[15:39] {Threei} CPSL moving but it was impossible to find entry
[15:40] {magoo} yeah..that was a bounce
[15:40] {magoo} .65 area to .87
[15:40] {Threei} you took it?
[15:41] {magoo} nah..was on it..to fast
[15:41] {magoo} went .66 to ,87
[15:41] {magoo} in i trader
[15:41] {BillyD} i did here...in .87,89 and out .97 and .04
[15:41] {magoo} nice
[15:41] {Threei} good job billy
[15:41] {magoo} u use cyber to fill?
[15:41] {Threei} pure inutitive momo feel
[15:42] {BillyD} Laser
[15:42] {magoo} i know he he
[15:42] {BillyD} lol
[15:42] {magoo} whats a magoo gootta do to get a slap here today}??
[15:42] {BillyD} I doid take earlier though at .73 and stop .68
[15:42] {Threei} so, don't cry about lack of intuition anymore... you clearly have it working
[15:42] {BillyD} lol
[15:43] {magoo} uh slap please
[15:43] {magoo} CHNR will print over 32
[15:43] {magoo} RISKY
[15:43] {magoo} 32.40 area
[15:44] {BillyD} missed ASIA
[15:46] {magoo} changed mind
[15:46] {magoo} mkt no help
[15:46] {magoo} like it short
[15:51] {magoo} insane
[15:52] {bruce} you talking about yourself mags?
[15:53] {Threei} CPSL will be item of interest tomorrow also
[15:53] {dino} vmed stop to .96
[15:54] {BillyD} CBAK as well
[15:54] {dino} out +.26
[15:54] {Threei} nice last hit for the day dino
[15:56] {dino} thx beginning sucked again, must wait
[15:56] {dino} cyber not letting me sell the morn, saying i never got it, sheesh
[15:56] {dino} on phone now
[15:58] {bruce} see you all in am
[15:58] {Threei} thank you all
[15:58] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[15:58] {magoo} yes, ty vad..all
[15:58] {magoo} good day
[15:59] {dptl} ahh...see ya tomorrow all
[15:59] {dino} out .58, +.64
[15:59] {dino} now they show short. ten minutes to tell me bridging delays
[16:01] {dino} bidz
Session Close: Thu Dec 06 00:00:00 2007

Tuesday, December 4, 2007

December 4, 2007

Session Start: Tue Dec 04 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Tue Dec 04 00:00:00 2007

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[05:49] {Threei} 00:37am [JMBA] Nestle USA to begin selling Jamba Juice at grocery stores in 8 Western US states in 2008
[05:55] {BillyD} morning Vad
[05:56] {Threei} Billy :)
[06:02] {Threei} (CA) BANK OF CANADA LOWERS INTEREST RATES BY 25BP TO 4.25%, NOT EXPECTED
[06:02] {Threei} big smile here
[06:02] {BillyD} wow
[06:03] {Threei} CAD just dropped half cent
[06:03] {Threei} just 30-40 more to go for me to be very happy
[06:03] {dptl} good morning all
[06:03] {BillyD} dp
[06:03] {Threei} dp :)
[06:03] {BillyD} maybe today ZIXI goes
[06:04] {Threei} want dark secret?
[06:04] {BillyD} it triggered yesterday but di nothing
[06:04] {Threei} I was interested to see how OMS works... left buy stop
[06:04] {BillyD} why not
[06:04] {Threei} got a fill
[06:05] {Threei} dp... as canuck to canuck:
[06:05] {Threei} USD BREAKS ABOVE 1.01 LEVEL AFTER SURPRISE BOC INTEREST RATE CUT
[06:05] {dptl} oms?
[06:05] {Threei} OMS modulwe in new version
[06:05] {Threei} stop orders
[06:06] {Threei} it says "and more" but I didn't get to and more part :)
[06:07] {dptl} you got that new laser version?
[06:07] {Threei} yes sir
[06:07] {Threei} 1.0132 CAD right now
[06:08] {Threei} I asked bruce yesterday, you didn't see? he said it's more stable quotes qise
[06:08] {BillyD} Vad...on OMS
[06:08] {Threei} (not that I had many complaints before... but more is better)
[06:08] {Threei} I guess
[06:09] {Threei} yes Billy
[06:09] {BillyD} when entering order ....do you enter as stop limit to buy say when hits 4.189 and then a stop limit price?
[06:09] {BillyD} 4.19
[06:09] {Threei} that's what I did... but one thing I just realized
[06:10] {Threei} I was in a hurry and haven't looked what happened right after I hit SAtart Order
[06:10] {Threei} so, I am not sure whether it was sitting waiting for a trigger
[06:10] {Threei} or got executed immediately
[06:10] {Threei} see what I mean?
[06:10] {BillyD} yes
[06:10] {BillyD} when entering stop limit
[06:11] {BillyD} is the price field the order to trigger your order?
[06:11] {Threei} they could work the same for new and existing position, or they could work differently
[06:11] {Threei} gotta check on that
[06:11] {cosmo} is there a cue for thes orders?
[06:11] {Threei} that's my understanding billy
[06:12] {Threei} cue?
[06:12] {cosmo} you stand in line, that is
[06:12] {Threei} line?
[06:12] {BillyD} ak Vad...and the stop limit is the max price you are willing to pay right
[06:12] {Threei} what is it, buying milk in USSR circa 1970?
[06:12] {Threei} right
[06:12] {BillyD} ty
[06:12] {cosmo} if its a limit order, you might get left behind
[06:12] {BillyD} right cosmo
[06:12] {Threei} if there are enough shares you won't
[06:13] {Threei} if not, then it's who is first
[06:13] {cosmo} liquididy is key
[06:13] {Threei} and this is where Laser shines
[06:13] {BillyD} Vad..I wonder what route it uses?
[06:13] {Threei} all things equal, it tends to be first :)
[06:14] {Threei} smart or inet - my understanding
[06:14] {BillyD} ok
[06:14] {cosmo} i like smart
[06:14] {Threei} me too
[06:14] {BillyD} smart does what again?
[06:14] {cosmo} but, who knows about laser
[06:14] {Threei} sweeps everything
[06:15] {cosmo} its their 'smart' protocol that matters
[06:15] {BillyD} so does Inet right Vad
[06:15] {Threei} smart makes me feel inadequate cosmo... but also gives me a confidence adequacy if not required
[06:15] {Threei} if you chwecked Route Out, yes
[06:16] {BillyD} w/ smart if sweeps everything and not enough to fill order....it doesn't put balance at offer or bid right?
[06:16] {Threei} INET does
[06:16] {cosmo} trust the force, if you dare
[06:16] {Threei} Smart, I think does too but I could be wrong
[06:16] {dino} gm all
[06:17] {BillyD} dino :)
[06:17] {Threei} since executions became no brainer I stopped looking into those fine details as thorouighly as I did during SOES/SNet times :)
[06:17] {Threei} dino :)
[06:17] {BillyD} INET is great
[06:18] {Threei} it's amazing how ewhole area of art of getting your order filled got just wiped out eh?
[06:18] {BillyD} make sit a truer mkt
[06:18] {Threei} 1.0138, canucks
[06:19] {cosmo} its like starting your car without a crank
[06:19] {Threei} lol
[06:19] {cosmo} it like to use a key
[06:19] {BillyD} or remote
[06:19] {esemde} morning....
[06:19] {Threei} ese, Christams came today from Bank of Canada :)
[06:19] {esemde} in the form of what
[06:19] {Threei} rate cut
[06:20] {Threei} CAD getting slaughtered
[06:20] {Threei} 1.0142
[06:20] {esemde} yahoo!!!!!!!
[06:20] {Threei} there :)
[06:20] {cosmo} JMBA looks like a buyout.....?
[06:20] {Threei} no
[06:20] {cosmo} chart...that is
[06:21] {cosmo} 3.98 hod
[06:21] {cosmo} pre mkt coma?
[06:22] {cosmo} nah
[06:22] {Threei} just haven't got the guts to break resistance so far
[06:22] {cosmo} ah...guts... I remember those
[06:22] {Threei} lol
[06:27] {dino} back in 30-40 min.
[06:28] {cosmo} can't look..right?
[06:29] {cosmo} SOLF pre mkt high = 21.30 fwiw
[06:30] {BillyD} couldn't bring myself to buy SOLF on premkt PB
[06:31] {Threei} JMBA, 4 looks like long trigger but I'd like to see how it trades... hope it won't break right out of the gate
[06:33] {Threei} out ZIXI +.1 btw
[06:33] {Threei} hope I won't cause inflation when spend it
[06:33] {BillyD} lol
[06:33] {Threei} .01 that is
[06:34] {BillyD} rflol
[06:34] {Threei} was worth an OMS test :)
[06:34] {BillyD} yes
[06:35] {Threei} JMBS trying
[06:35] {Threei} 4.01
[06:35] {Threei} if stays above 3.95
[06:35] {cosmo} :)
[06:36] {Threei} 1:1
[06:36] {BillyD} out took some aggressivre at .93
[06:36] {Threei} out in full
[06:36] {bruce} out 1/2 .23
[06:36] {Threei} cool beans guys
[06:37] {Threei} good to see you focused and decisive
[06:37] {BillyD} a little more patience would help :)
[06:38] {bruce} out balance .45
[06:38] {BillyD} gj bruce
[06:38] {bruce} nice trade vad
[06:38] {bruce} thanx billy
[06:38] {bruce} lucky
[06:39] {Threei} high five bruce
[06:39] {Threei} beautifully done
[06:40] {bruce} thanx vadster
[06:40] {dptl} that was quick
[06:41] {Threei} that's how we like'em
[06:41] {Threei} instant gratification
[06:41] {Threei} argh ZIXI
[06:41] {Threei} you took it too dp?
[06:42] {Threei} JMBA I mean
[06:42] {dptl} yep thnx
[06:42] {esemde} CSIQ news?...
[06:42] {Threei} not that I see
[06:43] {esemde} tks
[06:43] {esemde} shot up $1 almost instantly
[06:43] {Threei} just being itself
[06:45] {cosmo} MPEL
[06:45] {esemde} am watching that one as well cos
[06:46] {cosmo} needs to hold .95
[06:46] {bruce} holx as long play vad?
[06:47] {Roman} CSUN spike
[06:47] {Threei} SOLF small shares long 22.50 break
[06:47] {esemde} yes...have tentatively got a bstop in at .35
[06:47] {Threei} not my cup of tea bruce
[06:48] {esemde} CSIQ go nuts baby...
[06:48] {Threei} SOLF stop under .30
[06:50] {BillyD} out +.29 very small shares
[06:50] {Threei} out half
[06:50] {BillyD} ty
[06:50] {Threei} yw
[06:50] {Threei} out in full
[06:50] {bruce} out in full solf + .20
[06:50] {Threei} qwhew
[06:50] {bruce} no guts on that one
[06:50] {esemde} long small CSIQ .50
[06:50] {BillyD} JMBA PB
[06:51] {esemde} passing on MPEL...
[06:51] {Threei} ah come on brucve... 100 shares with 20-30 cents stop?
[06:51] {esemde} concentrating on one
[06:52] {dptl} missed solf but got mpel....thnx
[06:53] {esemde} out CSIQ .86..+36
[06:53] {bruce} yep - should have stayed in vad
[06:53] {BillyD} in JMBA .11
[06:54] {BillyD} out some +.10
[06:54] {esemde} MPEL did ok as well...cos did you play it?
[06:55] {dino} gj guys
[06:55] {BillyD} out rest JMBA
[06:55] {BillyD} lame bounce
[06:56] {BillyD} watch large JMBA offer for possible new entry
[06:56] {cosmo} TRMP @ 4.50 hod
[06:57] {BillyD} Vad...thoughts on JMBA
[06:57] {Threei} not sure
[06:57] {bruce} just wondering where you got .50 entry for solf vad - previous high was .80
[06:58] {bruce} so that was a pullback entry?
[06:58] {Threei} huge offers
[06:58] {BillyD} yes at .20 as well
[06:58] {bruce} ah
[06:58] {bruce} k
[06:58] {bruce} hadn't noticed that
[06:58] {esemde} L csiq .80
[06:58] {cosmo} TRMP @ 4.50 hod fwiw
[06:59] {bruce} you mean huge bids?
[06:59] {Threei} no
[06:59] {esemde} out csiq .26 +.46
[06:59] {Threei} look at ity this way bruce
[06:59] {Threei} bids or offers by themselves are not very indicative,
[07:00] {esemde} next resistance .78 csiq
[07:00] {Threei} it's how stock goes about them that is telling
[07:00] {bruce} you're thinking really large offers are a fakeout?
[07:00] {Threei} SOLF had huge offers at .50,
[07:00] {Threei} it's generally thin stock,
[07:00] {bruce} k
[07:00] {bruce} got you
[07:00] {bruce} so when it broke no where to go but a quick up
[07:00] {Threei} overcoming such resistance is a very good sign of strength,
[07:01] {bruce} got it - thanx
[07:01] {Threei} so break of that level with taking out big offers becomes a trigger
[07:01] {bruce} yup
[07:01] {bruce} makes sense to me
[07:01] {esemde} am done for the day...2 good hits with CSIQ.
[07:01] {Threei} overall, never think of support and resistance (however you define them) as levels where stock will or will not turn because of those levels,
[07:01] {dino} hl l lstr .80
[07:02] {Threei} think of them as levels where stock will or will not turn because of what it does with those levels
[07:02] {Threei} wtg ese
[07:02] {BillyD} good analogy Vad
[07:02] {Threei} see what I mean by that?
[07:02] {Threei} you have a resistance at 20,
[07:03] {bruce} yep - makes sense to me
[07:03] {Threei} chart formation or MA, or Level 2, or awhatever. or any combination of those,
[07:03] {esemde} somethings up with this one....is probably going to take a shot at 5yrs high next few days
[07:03] {Threei} you can't tell what to do when it comes to 20
[07:03] {esemde} for sure
[07:03] {Threei} but when it breaks or doesn't break that 20, that is what defines your action
[07:04] {cosmo} Bush on TV
[07:04] {Roman} JASO long
[07:04] {Roman} small
[07:04] {Roman} 56.05 area
[07:04] {Roman} ESLR pop
[07:05] {bruce} thanx vad
[07:09] {dino} mind hl l .24, stop .97
[07:09] {Threei} always
[07:10] {Threei} ESLR if you want it, go for pullback
[07:10] {Threei} it's back into support
[07:10] {Threei} CSIQ moving up again, should help
[07:10] {Threei} .86 trigger if stays above .80
[07:11] {dino} teloz
[07:11] {Threei} 7-8 cents stop, certainly worth a try
[07:12] {BillyD} JMBA gonna try imo
[07:13] {Roman} i am going to ride JASO a bit
[07:13] {Roman} see what happens
[07:13] {Roman} CTDC playng a bit
[07:16] {Threei} ESLR 1:1
[07:16] {Threei} half out
[07:16] {BillyD} took it for dime Vad ty
[07:16] {Threei} :)
[07:16] {BillyD} stopped jmba -.05
[07:16] {dino} mind stopped -.27
[07:17] {dptl} nice eslr....missed it
[07:17] {Threei} wow... don't sleep at the wheel dp, it was at the trigger level for like couple minutes
[07:17] {dptl} should quit smoking
[07:17] {Threei} ah lol
[07:18] {dino} mind rinse
[07:18] {Threei} out 1/4 more
[07:18] {Threei} +.20
[07:18] {Threei} stop .89
[07:19] {esemde} good run in solars today...
[07:19] {Threei} nice to see
[07:19] {Threei} when mania is in town, peanuts sell well
[07:19] {esemde} ESLR ..that should keep going up rest of the day
[07:21] {Threei} ZIXI... why didn't I focus on continuation
[07:21] {esemde} how long do manias in general last vad...or does it depend on the type of mania it is....could solars be what...couple of years?
[07:21] {Threei} got =distracted by all the solars hoopla
[07:21] {Threei} no way to tell ese... anywhere from 1 day to years
[07:21] {esemde} hmmmmm
[07:22] {esemde} these are things of the future.....hmmmmm
[07:22] {Threei} we saw stem cells manias lasted for 1 day.... and we saw internet mania lasted for years
[07:22] {esemde} pre 2000 for internet?
[07:22] {dino} spir?
[07:23] {Threei} remember times when news about company starting website would prop it to double and triple in a matter of hours? :)
[07:23] {esemde} yes
[07:23] {Threei} KTEL? :)
[07:23] {Threei} how lame was that... and went from 6 to 80
[07:23] {esemde} lived in Winnipeg...can't for get that one
[07:23] {Threei} :)
[07:24] {dino} lstr stop to .04
[07:24] {Threei} so you remember owner refusing to sell his shares because "he was told it goes to 100"
[07:24] {bruce} atvi - any read?
[07:24] {Threei} no... I hate daily
[07:25] {bruce} k
[07:25] {dino} to .16
[07:25] {Threei} this is formation where it can do anything
[07:25] {esemde} kind of remember that..he was arogant
[07:25] {esemde} young fellow as i recal
[07:25] {Threei} ASTI
[07:26] {esemde} he's broke now...
[07:26] {Threei} don't chase it
[07:26] {Threei} let's see if we get pullback
[07:26] {dino} out lstr .20, +.40
[07:26] {Threei} closer to 19
[07:26] {Threei} if not let it be
[07:26] {Threei} risk is too high here
[07:26] {bruce} nice dino
[07:27] {Threei} SPIR is solar too dino, if I am not mistaken
[07:27] {dino} ty bruce
[07:27] {dino} ok thx, couldn't figure it out
[07:27] {dino} overthinking
[07:28] {dino} fcsx
[07:28] {dino} wow solf
[07:28] {dino} the only one not going up is fslr
[07:29] {BillyD} I've noticed some sticking "last trades" in boardview since new install of laser....anyone else?
[07:29] {BillyD} stock is up .20 and I show last trade .20 lower
[07:30] {Threei} there were some changes to boardview billy, read release notes
[07:30] {dino} ctrp
[07:30] {BillyD} ok
[07:30] {Threei} http://www.gndt.com/home/release.htm
[07:30] {BillyD} ty
[07:31] {dino} hl s ctrp .47 risky
[07:31] {Threei} essentially, they took it off real time by default as bandwidth saving option
[07:31] {Threei} and left it up to you to turn it on
[07:31] {Threei} and regulate updating speed
[07:31] {esemde} eslr....nice
[07:32] {Threei} SOLF takes it with it I believe
[07:32] {Threei} out last portion ESLR
[07:33] {Threei} SOLF euphoria
[07:33] {Threei} top is coming
[07:33] {magoo} morn RT
[07:33] {Threei} mags!'
[07:33] {magoo} :)
[07:33] {Threei} missed beautiful morning :(
[07:34] {magoo} always vad
[07:34] {Threei} wow... hit SOLF top to the second
[07:34] {Threei} too bad in words and not in actual trade
[07:35] {Threei} ah not shortable anyway
[07:35] {magoo} is the download easy process?
[07:35] {Threei} yes
[07:35] {Threei} piece of cake
[07:35] {magoo} i go try now, brb
[07:35] {Threei} in some cases have to uninstall old version first but in most, no
[07:36] {magoo} wait, first, anything i ned to know?
[07:36] {Threei} make sure you know where your layout is saved
[07:36] {Threei} just in case
[07:36] {BillyD} ty Vad...that helped
[07:36] {Threei} it should recognize it automatically but you know...
[07:36] {Threei} welcome billy
[07:37] {dptl} got to leave early.........see ya all tomorrow......
[07:38] {Threei} take care dp
[07:38] {Threei} wait!
[07:38] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[07:38] {Threei} now go
[07:38] {BillyD} lol
[07:38] {dptl} lol
[07:40] {dino} ctrp not moving, bstop to .52
[07:42] {dino} ctrp stopped -.20 slippage
[07:43] {Threei} you have SOLF for short dino?
[07:43] {dino} can't borrow
[07:43] {Threei} ok... noone does, forget it
[07:43] {magoo} i think SOLF put me in a daytrade call friday
[07:44] {magoo} i have a call into genesis to find out
[07:44] {magoo} one of those nice surprises
[07:44] {Threei} sheesh, what a PIA
[07:44] {magoo} walk in owe 7k
[07:45] {magoo} ive talked to u before on this
[07:45] {Threei} yes
[07:45] {magoo} no way for meto correctproblem
[07:45] {Threei} there is... I told you about it
[07:45] {esemde} wow. SOLF up $6 and change...
[07:45] {magoo} that won't work for me :(
[07:45] {dino} i seem to be back in the i'm better in the afternoon zone
[07:46] {magoo} brb
[07:48] {bruce} I suck in the afternoons dino
[07:50] {Threei} HOKU 8.50 break long if stays above .30, half lot
[07:50] {dino} i'm george castanzza , opposit
[07:54] {Threei} SOLF feels long again
[07:54] {Threei} with 26 support
[07:56] {dino} hl s cmgi .73
[07:56] {dino} stop .02
[07:57] {bruce} l hoku - stop to .40
[07:58] {BillyD} out HOKU thx Vad
[07:58] {Threei} welcome
[07:59] {Threei} 1:1
[07:59] {bruce} out 1/2 hoku .70
[07:59] {BillyD} you saw some hidden tension Vad on HOKU
[08:00] {Threei} and another solar... lagging
[08:00] {BillyD} nice...I always think it is Bio
[08:00] {BillyD} reminds me of DNDN
[08:00] {magoo} anyone go for SOLF?
[08:01] {bruce} stopped balance hoku .60
[08:04] {dino} teloz hl s .99, stop .33
[08:08] {BillyD} missing ZIXI bothers me]
[08:09] {BillyD} such a nice setup
[08:10] {Threei} yeah
[08:10] {Threei} was so narrow yesterday, today showed its potential
[08:10] {BillyD} I got 100 at .26 and wouldn't pay up
[08:10] {BillyD} and took -.05 stop yesterday eod
[08:11] {Threei} triggered too close to eod
[08:11] {BillyD} yes...otherwise would had held
[08:12] {Chaeron} gm all... :)
[08:12] {Threei} chaeron :)
[08:12] {BillyD} C:)
[08:12] {bruce} hi chaeron
[08:16] {esemde} have a great rest of the day all...see ya tomorrow
[08:16] {BillyD} bye ese
[08:16] {Threei} takwe care ese
[08:16] {magoo} bye ES
[08:16] {esemde} see ya billy
[08:16] {magoo} hi chaer
[08:16] {esemde} mags
[08:16] {Threei} you instill inferiority complex in Chaeron
[08:20] {Threei} somewhat tough trade:
[08:20] {dino} cmgi cov .63, +.10
[08:20] {Threei} TIVO
[08:21] {BillyD} not enough yesterday eh
[08:21] {Threei} 7.96 trigger, .84 stop
[08:21] {Threei} lol
[08:21] {BillyD} at least you can sleep with this one
[08:21] {Threei} it nears 52 week huigh
[08:21] {dino} teloz stopped -.33
[08:22] {Threei} will try OMS module for buy stop
[08:23] {Threei} consider me a guinea pig
[08:23] {BillyD} u get it
[08:23] {magoo} io in billy
[08:23] {magoo} tivo
[08:23] {Threei} yes
[08:26] {dino} citp s .15, stop .28]
[08:26] {BillyD} sovad...in OMs....u set price at .96 and then stop limit at .96?
[08:27] {Threei} that's what I did but I am not sure I did it right
[08:30] {BillyD} ok
[08:30] {dino} layn
[08:31] {dino} hl l layn .50
[08:33] {dino} killed it in 2 cent beat
[08:37] {magoo} vad, i downloaded, i do not see any look thats different
[08:37] {Threei} click View
[08:38] {magoo} ok
[08:38] {Threei} do you see the line that says
[08:38] {Threei} CreditSuisee settings?
[08:38] {magoo} yup
[08:38] {Threei} OK, you got new version alright
[08:38] {Threei} OMS module under Modules is for stops
[08:38] {BillyD} Is applicable to us Vad
[08:38] {BillyD} CS
[08:38] {magoo} i still have "methods window"
[08:38] {Threei} sure
[08:39] {magoo} old stop
[08:39] {Threei} I just know little about it
[08:39] {Threei} old stop is buried
[08:39] {Threei} OMS module is the way to enter it
[08:39] {Threei} make sure you read release notes
[08:39] {Threei} http://www.gndt.com/home/release.htm
[08:40] {BillyD} in L2 Route pop up window "stop" is still an option
[08:40] {Threei} I don't know what it is and how to use it... gotta ask dave
[08:40] {BillyD} ok
[08:46] {Threei} watching NVDA for short if NQ drops quickly
[08:46] {Threei} 32 closest resistance
[08:47] {dino} citp stopped -.15
[08:50] {dino} uhal drop thin
[08:51] {BillyD} NVDA here Vad
[08:52] {BillyD} can't get a clear read
[08:52] {Threei} no... but it's more of a risk-based setup here
[08:52] {BillyD} makes sense
[08:53] {Threei} meaning, close to 32 worth a try simply on a very small stop size even if odds are 50/50
[08:53] {magoo} anyone still in TIVO?
[08:53] {BillyD} yes
[08:53] {BillyD} no on tivo
[09:00] {magoo} ok vad, read it
[09:01] {Threei} don't tell me you understood it all
[09:01] {magoo} now how do i actually use it? as in, like old way? click price, go to mrthod window?
[09:01] {Threei} it will make me feel very inferior
[09:01] {Threei} use OMS you mean?
[09:01] {magoo} yeah
[09:01] {Threei} no, click Add new order button
[09:02] {Threei} fill in all the parameters
[09:02] {Threei} click OK
[09:02] {Threei} when you want order to actualize, click green triangle button
[09:02] {magoo} OY, wheres new order button
[09:02] {Threei} open OMS module first, lol
[09:02] {Threei} Modules- OMS
[09:03] {BillyD} lol
[09:03] {magoo} ok, blank
[09:03] {Threei} right
[09:07] {dino} uhal l .00
[09:11] {magoo} well that was a bust he hge
[09:12] {BillyD} I just entered order through OMS and it automatically sent it as live pending
[09:12] {magoo} t 7.86???
[09:12] {magoo} what u do?
[09:13] {magoo} mine sold it
[09:13] {Threei} you chose stop limit magoo?
[09:13] {magoo} vad, should i get rid of that methods window from old stop
[09:13] {BillyD} entered order to buy 100 zixi at 4 w/ stop limit at 4.01
[09:14] {BillyD} and it showed order live at 4.01
[09:14] {Threei} under price indicator
[09:14] {Threei} yeah, kill it
[09:14] {BillyD} I did
[09:14] {BillyD} confused though
[09:14] {magoo} no, vad on stop limit
[09:14] {magoo} ok on killing
[09:14] {Threei} then you simply send an order
[09:15] {Threei} instead of entering a stop
[09:15] {magoo} gotcha
[09:15] {magoo} and then that worked he he sigh
[09:15] {Threei} yes, lol
[09:16] {Threei} CTDC
[09:16] {Threei} maybe 6 break
[09:16] {Threei} not sure
[09:16] {Threei} anyone shorted NVDA near 32?
[09:17] {BillyD} yes ...cov'd at .93 before it went over 32
[09:17] {magoo} duh, vad, how i kill methods window?ctrl F$ no work
[09:18] {BillyD} and just realized somehow I was short again at .86 by accident and co'vd .83
[09:18] {BillyD} don't know how that happened
[09:18] {Threei} under View magoo
[09:18] {Threei} uncheck Method Bar
[09:18] {magoo} cool, ty
[09:18] {Threei} :)
[09:20] {BillyD} Vad...has Laserdave explained the OMS to you
[09:20] {Threei} no
[09:20] {Threei} he is lazy or ignores me
[09:20] {Threei} or both
[09:20] {BillyD} tough when no one cares
[09:21] {Threei} nah, I am used to it
[09:22] {Threei} if 6.01 melts on CTDC... worth a try
[09:25] {Threei} out .17
[09:25] {BillyD} nice
[09:26] {Threei} stupid trade... but worked nicely :)
[09:26] {BillyD} I got out at .09 truth be known because I couldn't believe I went in
[09:26] {BillyD} something pushed button
[09:27] {BillyD} before thinking at all
[09:27] {Threei} that something is a inuitive trader in you
[09:27] {Threei} then you came back and took over {G}
[09:27] {BillyD} it was like wait a minute.....do you remeber this stock
[09:28] {BillyD} yse
[09:28] {BillyD} yes
[09:28] {BillyD} gotta find the perfect baalance between the two
[09:29] {magoo} between "yse and yes"?
[09:29] {BillyD} lol
[09:29] {Threei} lol
[09:30] {BillyD} XMSR rebounds nicely considering downgrade this morning
[09:44] {Threei} TASR
[09:44] {Threei} 15 break long
[09:44] {Threei} if stays above .90
[09:45] {magoo} u in tivo?
[09:45] {magoo} that was my learning curve exit
[09:45] {Threei} never hit my stop
[09:45] {magoo} right
[09:46] {magoo} that was my oms exit
[09:46] {BillyD} so vad...did we figure out how OMS really works
[09:47] {BillyD} so it doesn't dend orders live
[09:47] {BillyD} send
[09:47] {Threei} it doesn't if you use Stop Limit
[09:47] {BillyD} that is what I used
[09:48] {Threei} I just entered it on TASR to trigger by 15.01
[09:48] {Threei} it's not sending it
[09:49] {BillyD} well...I must have a problem
[09:49] {magoo} we gionna need dave give a quick lesson on actually using it
[09:49] {magoo} and spelling course too
[09:50] {BillyD} i just enterd buy 100 zixi as stop limit order w/ price at 4 and stop limit 4.01.......hit start and shows as live pending
[09:50] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:51] {Threei} but of course
[09:51] {Threei} your trigger price is below actual
[09:51] {Threei} for buy stop it means it triggered
[09:51] {BillyD} so not for pullback buy then?
[09:52] {Threei} that's not how it works
[09:52] {Threei} for pullback you can simply enter buy
[09:52] {BillyD} ok
[09:52] {BillyD} jus don't slap me
[09:52] {Threei} buy stop means trigger is higher than current price
[09:52] * magoo slaps BillyD around a bit with a large trout
[09:53] {BillyD} I see now
[09:54] {BillyD} vad...on your TASR order....you have price at 15.01 as trigger and what was your buy stop limit?
[09:54] {Threei} I made them the same
[09:55] {Threei} not right way to do it
[09:55] {Threei} still experimenting
[09:55] {BillyD} ok
[09:55] {Threei} got just 100 shares fill
[09:55] {BillyD} thats all that were avaialble though from what T&S showed
[09:55] {Threei} yes but I'd rather overpay couple cents
[09:56] {BillyD} does it keep reamaning portion of order open?
[09:56] {magoo} i confused
[09:56] {Threei} yes until you cancel it
[09:56] {magoo} u using it to enter AND as a stop?
[09:56] {BillyD} ok
[09:56] {Threei} it's a buy stop magoo
[09:56] {Threei} to enter when trigger is hit
[09:57] {bruce} have to head out
[09:57] {bruce} see you all tomorrow
[09:57] {magoo} wait bruce
[09:57] * magoo slaps bruce around a bit with a large trout
[09:57] {bruce} good trading
[09:57] {magoo} there, ok
[09:57] {bruce} lol
[09:57] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:57] {bruce} thanks mags
[09:58] {magoo} HOKU
[09:58] {magoo} missed that
[10:02] {BillyD} HOKU got lit
[10:02] {magoo} entry?
[10:02] {BillyD} gonna watch for feel
[10:03] {magoo} i thought lit=it
[10:03] {magoo} ass in..IN
[10:03] {BillyD} oh
[10:04] {Threei} TASR 1:1
[10:04] {BillyD} good spot Vad....not in
[10:04] {magoo} u out vad?
[10:05] {Threei} lol, I have just 100 shares
[10:05] {Threei} with that experiemtn with OMS
[10:05] {BillyD} sell 1/2 1:1
[10:05] {Threei} lol
[10:05] {BillyD} stick w/ plan
[10:05] {magoo} and keep tight stop on balance he he
[10:05] {BillyD} I think that is in MPP
[10:06] {Threei} you two... :)
[10:09] {BillyD} solars edging up
[10:10] {BillyD} Vad...what do you mainly look for on dail charts
[10:10] {BillyD} y
[10:11] {Threei} just want to see where the stocks is, is there formation to us
[10:11] {Threei} support/resistance to use
[10:11] {BillyD} some charts have different levels of resistance/support every .20 it seems
[10:12] {Threei} OK, just experiemnted again with that little piece of TASR
[10:12] {Threei} Price is what triggers the order
[10:13] {Threei} Stop limit is how far you want to set it
[10:13] {BillyD} yes
[10:13] {Threei} so, to get TASR on entry, I had to set Price 15.01,
[10:13] {Threei} Stop Limit 15.03 let's say
[10:14] {Threei} also, don't forget to delete finished or stopped orders form OMS
[10:15] {Threei} they won't be canceled by blotter
[10:15] {BillyD} true..ty
[10:15] {Threei} OMS will re-enter them if you cancel from there
[10:16] {magoo} u can't just double click them off?
[10:16] {Threei} no, not the ones you entered through OMS
[10:16] {Threei} release notes mention that
[10:16] {magoo} how u canx those?
[10:16] {Threei} in that same OMS there are buttons for delete
[10:17] {Threei} if order is not finished, first click red square
[10:17] {Threei} to stop it
[10:17] {Threei} then click button Delete all stopped and finished orders
[10:18] {magoo} ok, if its gone from the oms window, its gone correct?
[10:18] {Threei} if it disappeared from there, yes
[10:19] {magoo} ok
[10:19] {Threei} just have a look in blotter to make sure, I haven't checked this
[10:19] {Threei} anyway, for those who need stops, they are here
[10:20] {magoo} the blotter window that hasa the green tri and red block, there correct?
[10:20] {BillyD} Vad...when will you Laser help video be coming out on OMS
[10:20] {Threei} there is also a possibility to program whole chain of orders... but that's beyond my understanding
[10:20] {Threei} no, blotter is one where you have all those pending, open etc
[10:21] {Threei} I'll leave it to a broker billy :)
[10:23] {BillyD} CSIQ near .50
[10:23] {magoo} sheesh, blotter says i short sold tivo
[10:23] {BillyD} still not wise on break Vad for CSIQ
[10:23] {magoo} but i had1k long, and it says sh sold 1k
[10:24] {magoo} so i out i guess
[10:24] {BillyD} look at your summary screen to show if in any position
[10:25] {magoo} not showing
[10:25] {BillyD} ok
[10:46] {BillyD} ,
[10:47] {magoo} ..
[10:48] {magoo} HIKU interesting
[10:48] {magoo} HOKU
[10:48] {Threei} CSIQ has a shot at its all time high
[10:48] {Threei} if not today then tomorrow
[10:48] {Threei} and overal, it looks much much higher to me
[10:48] {magoo} solar?
[10:49] {Threei} yes
[10:50] {Threei} ASTI too
[10:52] {BillyD} both so jumpy
[10:53] {BillyD} seems like fresher solars geting the action
[10:54] {dino} out layn ave .84, +.34
[11:02] {Chaeron} LaserDave see DCC please
[11:03] {Threei} better don't dave... every time I look chaeron's dcc I find nothing but obcenities
[11:03] {Threei} but then again... maybe he likes you better than he likes me
[11:04] {Chaeron} I'm an equal opportunity people hater Threei
[11:04] {Threei} good to hear :)
[11:04] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[11:05] {magoo} SOLF vad
[11:05] {Chaeron} and you wonder why I am the way I am magoo :)
[11:05] {magoo} i do not wonder...
[11:05] {magoo} i know
[11:05] {Threei} lol
[11:06] {Threei} magoo, they are all momo movers with no technicals at this point
[11:06] {Chaeron} :) Bye all... have to jump early today... best of luck in all your trades
[11:24] {Threei} dumped TIVO in dusgust
[11:24] {Threei} disgust too
[11:24] {dino} powi
[11:24] {BillyD} RFLOL
[11:26] {BillyD} JMBA short maybe
[11:29] {Threei} CSIQ... if you want to try entry, 17.80 is support to watch
[11:29] {Threei} if loses it, can set stage for another of its infamous horrific setbacks
[11:33] {magoo} tasr and tivo always bone us vad
[11:33] {Threei} actually we got TASR pretty good while you were away
[11:33] {Threei} NVDA too
[11:35] {magoo} u asking for it lil' man :)
[11:37] {Threei} CSIQ... if takes .65, should go to 19 today
[11:38] {magoo} has the feel vad
[11:38] {magoo} in it
[11:38] {Threei} foam at the mouth, white eyes
[11:38] {BillyD} u gonna take it or in already
[11:39] {magoo} already .21
[11:39] {BillyD} very nice
[11:39] {Threei} ese will be happy about his swing from 14.50
[11:40] {dino} l layn again, .60
[11:45] {dino} rick
[11:47] {magoo} covered .50 here
[11:47] {magoo} may reload
[11:49] {Threei} finally
[11:49] {Threei} US SENATE APPROVES FREE TRADE DEAL WITH PERU, SENDS TO BUSH TO SIGN INTO LAW
[11:50] {Threei} GERN at yesterday high
[11:50] {Threei} not sure about this one
[11:51] {Threei} but if stays under it iot breaks tomorrow, I'll be a buyer
[11:51] {Threei} iot = and
[11:52] {Threei} just how crappy one's typing has to be to type and as iot
[11:57] {dino} layn stop is .96
[11:58] {BillyD} HOKU acts like might be something in it ......still not sure here
[11:58] {BillyD} any read Vad
[11:58] {magoo} solf back to top
[11:59] {dino} out .95 ave., +.35
[11:59] {Threei} just ramps up with the rest of solars billy
[11:59] {Threei} nice dino
[11:59] {Threei} you are back to former self
[11:59] {BillyD} so no technical off .60
[11:59] {dino} :), p.m. trader i guess
[11:59] {Threei} there is... if you want hindsight :)
[11:59] {dino} i should sleep in
[12:00] {Threei} lol
[12:01] {BillyD} hindight syas yes
[12:04] {BillyD} u take Gern vad or wait
[12:04] {Threei} no
[12:05] {BillyD} festiv day....good to see
[12:05] {Threei} SOLF new high
[12:05] {Threei} CSIQ pullback should be supported
[12:08] {Threei} out CAST balance .75
[12:08] {Threei} of course will go to 8 and higher now
[12:08] {BillyD} at least it was profitable
[12:11] {Threei} SOLF next round
[12:11] {Threei} jumpy
[12:11] {Threei} but seems to be able to lead CSIQ
[12:12] {Threei} FOLLOW UP: US ENERGY BILL TO INCLUDE $21B TAX PLAN BOOSTING RENEWABLE ENERGY
[12:12] {Threei} I wonder if this is what lit fire under solars today
[12:13] {BillyD} they throw Billions around like its nothing
[12:13] {Threei} yeah, why don't they throw couple our way
[12:14] {magoo} ebven just a measely couple million
[12:17] {BillyD} Vad...you playing CSIQ
[12:17] {Threei} if SOLF jumps again
[12:17] {Threei} CSIQ gives a delay for entry
[12:17] {BillyD} just under .40 so far is support
[12:17] {BillyD} don't know that counts
[12:18] {Threei} nope
[12:18] {Threei} in
[12:18] {magoo} IN
[12:18] {Threei} just need SOLF to go for real
[12:19] {Threei} if it does CSIQ will work
[12:19] {Threei} if not - fill in the blank
[12:19] {magoo} ironically, we should just buy SOLF
[12:19] {Threei} see both, following and little delay?
[12:19] {Threei} if you believe in it
[12:20] {magoo} waiting .91
[12:20] {Threei} I am simply trying to use it as leading indicator
[12:20] {BillyD} yes
[12:20] {Threei} come on SOLF,. break .25
[12:20] {magoo} OUT
[12:20] {magoo} TY
[12:20] {Threei} out too
[12:21] {Threei} SOLF pulled back, so use that same delay for exit :)
[12:21] {Threei} see advantages of my way? :)
[12:22] {BillyD} :)
[12:22] {Threei} more of a guess with SOLF, quiote readable following with CSIQ
[12:22] {magoo} absolutely...safer play
[12:22] {magoo} solf confirms
[12:22] {BillyD} CSIQ gonna be new leader now
[12:22] {Threei} it got a bit of additiohjnal fire by breaking its all time high billy
[12:23] {BillyD} yes...reason for my comment
[12:23] {Threei} CAST you $%*&#$ )(%^&$#@
[12:23] {Threei} I swear sometimes it's like they watch you :)
[12:24] {BillyD} sorry Vad.....but I couldn't keep from laughing
[12:24] {Threei} hehe
[12:24] {BillyD} a week for that one
[12:24] {Threei} what can I say... :)
[12:25] {Threei} I am still sure that I read it right,
[12:25] {Threei} and I managed even to profit from my read,
[12:25] {Threei} it's just so beyond my normal canvass
[12:25] {BillyD} yeah....I think it affected you into taking TIVO again
[12:26] {BillyD} TIVO was psycho one day and dead next
[12:26] {Threei} luckily we got it on its psycho day too so it's not complete waste
[12:26] {BillyD} yes
[12:26] {Threei} OK where is ese
[12:27] {Threei} he gets back from work, sees CSIQ above 19
[12:27] {BillyD} see if he shows up early tomorrow
[12:27] {Threei} screams of joy cover whole distance from Willows beach to patience's haouse
[12:28] {Threei} mine is a bit farher away so I am not rushing out to buy earplugs
[12:30] {Threei} but if CSIQ goes to 20 maybe I should
[12:30] {patience} i'll join in with ese, it has been a fantastic trading day for me..scalping currencies
[12:30] {Threei} :)
[12:31] {dino} natl
[12:31] {dino} gj patience
[12:31] {magoo} nice pat:)
[12:32] {patience} ty guys...i am pretty much sitting in cash but seem to be able to scalp currencies...ty vad for teaching me to scalp
[12:32] {patience} :)
[12:32] {Threei} wow... that's second week someone thanks me for something
[12:33] {dino} lol
[12:33] {Threei} Christmas or what
[12:37] {Threei} so, what solars haven;'t moved yet
[12:37] {Threei} DSTI I think
[12:37] {Threei} ESLR is still fairly low on the daily
[12:39] {BillyD} HOKU near 10
[12:41] {Threei} what a beautifyl day
[12:41] {Threei} TIVO was our only stop, right?
[12:41] {Threei} all 10 cents of it
[12:41] {BillyD} pretty much
[12:42] {Threei} btw guys, about OMS
[12:42] {Threei} if you prepared an order, started it,
[12:42] {Threei} then stock retreated from trigger
[12:42] {Threei} invalidating setup
[12:43] {Threei} but you suspect it could become valid again later
[12:43] {Threei} simply hit red square
[12:43] {Threei} not deleting the order
[12:43] {Threei} so it stays there and all you need is to click green triangle again to start it
[12:43] {BillyD} this may turn out to be decent tool
[12:43] {Threei} trying to find uses for it... :)
[12:44] {Threei} since I am not a big fun of atuomatic stops
[12:44] {BillyD} video?
[12:44] {Threei} no
[12:44] {BillyD} lol
[12:44] {Threei} :)
[12:44] {Threei} I am bold, overweght
[12:44] {Threei} and haven't actually looked good even before went bold and overweight
[12:44] {BillyD} Laser videos don't show person
[12:45] {BillyD} jsut screen and commentary
[12:46] {Threei} don't know billy... how to eplain then that aftre watching one of videos magoo started every day next week with dcc to me stating that he never saw anyone that ugly
[12:46] {Threei} so let me err on safe side
[12:46] {BillyD} put him on ignore
[12:46] {BillyD} block his dcc
[12:46] {Threei} I did... but he seems to know the way to get through
[12:47] {BillyD} he did say he was a computer geek now
[12:47] {Threei} see?
[12:47] {Threei} CAST!!!!
[12:47] {Threei} f..................
[12:47] {magoo} yeah...thats me allright..comp illiterate
[12:47] {BillyD} "they" were watching you
[12:48] {Threei} could there be any other explanation?
[12:48] {BillyD} [13:21] {Threei} CAST you $%*&#$ )(%^&$#@
[12:48] {BillyD} [13:21] {Threei} I swear sometimes it's like they watch you :)
[12:48] {magoo} SOLF selloff
[12:48] {magoo} look
[12:49] {Threei} I am interested
[12:49] {Threei} small shares
[12:49] {Threei} CAST
[12:49] {Threei} TO PAY $56-64M IN CASH FOR 70-80% INTEREST IN FOREIGN TRADE AND BUSINESS COLLEGE OF CHONGQUING - The market for post-secondary education in China has shown tremendous growth in the last several years with enrollments up from 3.8M in 1998 to over 16M by 2004. Data from China's Ministry of Education show that 7% of 18 to 22 year-olds were enrolled in post-secondary institutions in 1996 and by 2004 that proportion rose to 15% and the MOE has s
[12:51] {dino} layn l hl .55, stop lod
[12:51] {Threei} in
[12:52] {Threei} stop under 25
[12:52] {magoo} entry?
[12:53] {Threei} .37
[12:53] {Threei} out
[12:53] {Threei} whew
[12:53] {Threei} wild trip
[12:55] {Threei} too soon
[12:55] {Threei} had full buck in it
[12:56] {Threei} I mean buck and half
[12:56] * Threei prepares "I mean 2 bucks"
[12:56] {BillyD} I couldn't determine a stop area
[12:56] {BillyD} never entered
[12:57] {magoo} my spot and never took..sigh
[12:59] {BillyD} wem missed CTDC
[13:01] {dino} out layn -.05
[13:02] {Threei} one morfe thing about OMS - you can modify existing order if entry conditions change
[13:02] {Threei} faster than making new one
[13:02] {Threei} Ok guys, with all the hoopla didn't notice the day is over :)
[13:02] {Threei} thank you all
[13:03] {Threei} hacve a great evening
[13:03] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:03] {BillyD} u 2 Vad
[13:03] {magoo} ty vad
[13:03] {Threei} oh btw
[13:03] {Threei} one in five canadians now is foreign born
[13:04] {Threei} (my bit of useless information for the day)
[13:04] {dino} the new melting pot

Monday, December 3, 2007

December 3, 2007

Session Start: Mon Dec 03 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Mon Dec 03 00:00:00 2007

[05:48] {Threei} Good morning
[05:49] {hawkfan4} good morning Vad, all
[05:49] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:49] {Threei} SAUDI OIL MINISTER: LOOKING AT LONG TERM OIL FUNDAMENTALS; SAYS PREMATURE TO SPECULATE WHAT THE OUTPUT DECISION ON WED WILL BE- Says the output decision is 'wide open' at wed meeting
[05:50] {Threei} TV just asked "what are you doing to go green this holiday season"... my version of answer would be, eat turkey with stuffing gone bad
[05:52] {BillyD} morning vad, hawkfan4
[05:52] {Threei} billy :)
[05:52] {hawkfan4} morning BillyD
[06:00] {Threei} XMSR is active again
[06:02] {cosmo} imus too
[06:02] {cosmo} ...sorry
[06:04] {esemde} Morning all....Bad turkey......?thats brutal to think about
[06:04] {Threei} FED'S ROSENGREN SEES ECON GROWTH WELL BELOW NORMAL OVER THE NEXT TWO QUARTERS - Q&A SESSION
[06:04] {Threei} ese :)
[06:05] {Threei} yeah but greening effect will be achieved easily
[06:05] {Threei} AVII
[06:05] {Threei} RECEIVES FAST TRACK DESIGNATION FOR AVI-4658 FOR TREATMENT OF DUCHENNE MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY- AVI-4658 uses AVI's Exon Skipping Pre-RNA Interference Technology (ESPRIT) to potentially benefit DMD patients who have mutations in exon 51 of the dystrophin gene. In animal models, ESPRIT technology has demonstrated the ability to selectively bypass defective exons, thus restoring near-normal levels of dystrophin production. The company believes tha
[06:05] {dino} gm all
[06:06] {Threei} dino :)
[06:07] {cosmo} PRKR pre mkt high = 8.27 fwiw
[06:07] {cosmo} The Strange Case of ParkerVision
[06:07] {cosmo} at Barron's Online (Sat, Dec 1)
[06:07] {cosmo} ParkerVision, Inc. Responds to Barron's Article
[06:07] {cosmo} Business Wire (Mon 8:00am)
[06:10] {esemde} Vevendi bought a controlling stake in ATVI,,,,
[06:11] {bruce} pay just took a cut
[06:11] {Threei} and what a cit it is
[06:12] {bruce} newes?
[06:12] {Threei} [PAY] VeriFone Holdings Inc. Announces the anticipated restatement of their 2007 financils
[06:12] {Threei} - Guides Q4 R $238M v $233Me (Prior range R$231M-$233M )
[06:12] {bruce} k
[06:12] {dptl} good morning all
[06:13] {Threei} dp :)
[06:13] {bruce} hi dp
[06:14] {Threei} there must be something else in that restatement
[06:14] {esemde} dp......any wind on the mainland
[06:15] {dptl} not realy......it was snowing for couple of days
[06:15] {esemde} they closed schools down in the Cowichan over here on the island
[06:16] {esemde} thats Coiwichan Valley
[06:17] {esemde} nothing going on in Victoria though.....maybe Vads crabbing dock is gone?
[06:17] {dino} 2 hour delay here in n.e pa, 5 inches of snow
[06:18] {Threei} nope... last time I checked was fine
[06:19] {esemde} Seatle area dino?
[06:19] {dino} northeast pennsylvania
[06:19] {cosmo} hmm...close
[06:19] {dino} lol
[06:20] {cosmo} :)
[06:20] {esemde} sorry dino...i read that as pacific north east
[06:20] {dino} :)
[06:21] {BillyD} lol
[06:22] {Threei} looking at the rest of Canada, we have it easy, ese
[06:22] {esemde} always......it's what conviced me to stay instead of moving back to Winnipeg
[06:23] {Threei} stealing my lines
[06:24] {Threei} I'll have to leave 1 hour early today guys
[06:24] {BillyD} anarchy then
[06:24] {Threei} whole 1 hour of it
[06:25] {esemde} french revolution style......works for me
[06:25] {BillyD} thank goodness eh
[06:27] {esemde} dino you could probably see wall street from where you are.......figure
[06:29] {cosmo} TTWO
[06:29] {cosmo} 16.2 high ..so far
[06:33] {bruce} etfc
[06:33] {Threei} XMSR 16.80 break long if stays above .65
[06:38] {BillyD} out 1/2
[06:38] {Threei} stop .69
[06:39] {Threei} BRCM 27.11 long half lot if stays above 26.95
[06:39] {BillyD} not breakeven since hit 1:1...or persoanal preference at this point
[06:39] {Threei} it didn't hit 1:1 quite yet
[06:39] {Threei} or my math is off?
[06:40] {BillyD} I got it at .80 and .65 stop is .15 and out 1/2 at .95
[06:40] {Threei} :)
[06:40] {BillyD} close enopugh :)
[06:40] {Threei} 1:1, half out... or take first scalp for the day (week, month) - your choice
[06:40] {Threei} I am out half 16
[06:41] {Threei} ofering 1/4 more at 16.15
[06:41] {Threei} stop to just under b/e of course
[06:42] {BillyD} was too slow on rest so far
[06:43] {Threei} BRCM just touched at 1:1, my offer didn't get hit
[06:43] {Threei} stop to 26.99
[06:46] {Threei} stop to .85 XMSR
[06:46] {Threei} no lose territory
[06:47] {BillyD} out more XMSR .99 and .09
[06:47] {Threei} stubborn seller at .11 BRCM
[06:48] {BillyD} yes
[06:48] {Threei} if NQ breaks, gotta get steamrolled
[06:48] {Roman} ESLR
[06:48] {Roman} solars
[06:48] {Roman} ESLR, CSIQ, SOLF
[06:49] {Roman} CSIQ lagging , not interest for now
[06:49] {Roman} TIVO looks good
[06:50] {Threei} {TIVO} why thank you... coming from you
[06:50] {Threei} 1:1 BRCM
[06:50] {Threei} decide between second successful scalp and... you know :)
[06:51] {Threei} if partialling out, stop to 27.09
[06:51] {Roman} long PAAS slow
[06:51] {Roman} small 32.06 area
[06:53] {Roman} ALTH one of those thin movers
[06:53] {Roman} probably going to $10 in swing
[06:53] {esemde} bstop CSIQ 16.01
[06:53] {Roman} actually will take some ALTH the boyz lover too run this type of chart on swing time frame very small
[06:53] {Roman} lover = love
[06:54] {Threei} LUNA, what a pain
[06:54] {esemde} long .03
[06:56] {Threei} 1/4 more our XMSR
[06:56] {BillyD} out full here thx Vad
[06:56] {Threei} stop to .89 for the last portion
[06:56] {Threei} welcome
[06:56] {Roman} long SSRI
[06:56] {Roman} 36.75
[06:57] {Threei} LDK STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO CHATTER ABOUT CHINESE TV INTERVIEW WITH CEO IN WHICH HE REPORTEDLY STATED HE BELIEVES THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE COMPANY WILL SOON BE DROPPED
[06:57] {Threei} my bet is, not
[06:58] {BillyD} out BRCM as well..ty
[06:58] {Threei} :)
[06:59] {Threei} SOLF nears Fri high
[06:59] {Threei} broke
[07:00] {BillyD} pick your entry carefully on SOLF
[07:02] {Threei} plan for the last piece of XMSR: stop .89 and see if it can break .25, Fri high
[07:03] {Threei} if it can, going to sell into spike somewhere after that, will see how it trades
[07:03] {Threei} *NOV ISM MANUFACTURING: 50.8 V 50.7E; PRICES PAID: 67.5 V 65.5E
[07:06] {Threei} done with BRCM
[07:07] {BillyD} lots of resistance on that one
[07:07] {Threei} good start for the day so far
[07:07] {BillyD} yup
[07:07] {Threei} (week, month)
[07:07] {Threei} let's remain careful and picky
[07:07] {BillyD} I'm following you
[07:08] {BillyD} :)
[07:08] * Threei wears hood and dark sunglasses
[07:08] {lumdus} xmsr out in full - yes, time to watch
[07:08] * BillyD still follows
[07:08] * Threei ducks in narrow sidestreet
[07:09] * BillyD ducks and follows threei
[07:09] {Threei} ANSR... what's up
[07:10] {Threei} good earning after market on Fri
[07:10] {Threei} 10/30/07 04:15pm [ANSR] Reports Q3 $0.08 v $0.05e, R$46.7M v $44.9M
[07:10] {Threei} low volume... disregard
[07:10] {BillyD} I noticed it weeks ago but vol was always hinderance
[07:12] {Threei} ugh/// was considering NVDA short too long
[07:12] {BillyD} there was around a 2.5 mil blk on it eod friday
[07:13] {Threei} bounced back into trigger level
[07:13] {Threei} half lot short, stop .81
[07:13] {Threei} keep and eye on NQ
[07:14] {BillyD} in .70
[07:16] {Threei} in
[07:16] {Threei} .75
[07:17] {Threei} die NQ
[07:17] {bruce} atvi short continuation?
[07:17] {BillyD} I thought u in already..my bad
[07:17] {Threei} if stays under 26 bruce
[07:17] {lumdus} what are we in now ?
[07:18] {Threei} stopped
[07:18] {Threei} nothing lumdus
[07:19] {Roman} out PAAS
[07:20] {Roman} +.52
[07:20] {Threei} nice
[07:20] {esemde} i'll say...
[07:21] {BillyD} NVDA slipped by me at .81......out -.23
[07:22] {BillyD} waited too see if fall back
[07:25] {Roman} out SSRI +.59
[07:27] {Roman} TIVO turned out to be nice slow mover
[07:27] {Roman} ALTH
[07:28] {esemde} whats your criteria for selecting stocks Roman...couple of nice moves this morning
[07:28] {bruce} nice roman
[07:28] {Roman} took some swing 7.25 super small
[07:28] {Roman} i just noticed that all metals were moving , and there was room for nice bounce
[07:28] {Roman} silver: SSRI & PAAS
[07:29] {Roman} gold: GOLD & RGLD
[07:29] {Roman} entry was pretty safe, no spikes
[07:31] {Roman} FSLR First Solar at Analyst Day: says there will be no blockbuster announcements or new guidance today (244.75 +7.27) -Update-
[07:31] {Roman} JASO folowing FSLR
[07:31] {Roman} ESLR short small
[07:31] {Roman} not much room but still
[07:33] {Roman} PAULSON - FORECLOSURE EXPENSE IS INCENTIVE TO KEEP HOMEOWNER IN HOMES; COMPREHENSIVE HELP NEEDED
[07:33] {Roman} PAULSON-TREASURY IS WORKING WITH MORTGAGE INDUSTRY TO GIVE SUITABLE BORROWERS SUSTAINABLE HOME LOANS
[07:33] {Threei} SAYS MORTGAGE PLAN WILL NOT USE TAX FUNDS
[07:35] {Threei} 7.73 TIVO high from Fri
[07:36] {Threei} qwort a try with .59 stop it seems...
[07:36] {Threei} these slow movers are hard to read
[07:37] {cosmo} that's why they're slow
[07:37] {BillyD} u in Vad TIVO
[07:38] {Threei} if .75 getting hit
[07:38] {Roman} long CFC
[07:38] {Roman} small
[07:38] {Roman} 10.33
[07:38] {Roman} TGIC another lender on radar
[07:39] {Roman} for bounce
[07:39] {Threei} my stop will be .64 if triggers
[07:40] {BillyD} k
[07:40] {Threei} OK... in
[07:40] {Chaeron} GM all
[07:40] {Threei} chaeron :)
[07:41] {BillyD} missed TIVO while typing...nice Vad
[07:41] {dino} l ande .35 hl, stop .97
[07:42] {dino} hl l anti .45, stop .07
[07:42] {dino} thin
[07:42] {dino} atni i mean
[07:42] {esemde} out 1/2 CSIQ .26 +.23
[07:42] {Threei} good one ese
[07:43] {Roman} out CFC
[07:43] {esemde} stop to .89....thought it was going to blow me out at 6:58 mark
[07:43] {Roman} -.09
[07:43] {dino} gj ese
[07:43] {esemde} tks...lets see if it hangs there
[07:43] {esemde} not one of Vads classic patterns for sure
[07:44] {Threei} no... but it's a different kind of mover
[07:44] {esemde} ya that 30 cents dip at 6:58 mark was interesting
[07:45] {esemde} had my stop just under .85 and it got left alone
[07:48] {Threei} not to get anyone in this trade but rather continuity sake, since I posted an entry a while ago
[07:48] {Threei} sold half CAST .70, +.30
[07:48] {Threei} can't believe this thing keeps me hostage for so long, lol
[07:48] {BillyD} lol
[07:48] {BillyD} you've beena good prisoner
[07:49] {BillyD} not complaining about small rations of movement
[07:49] {cosmo} hostages are fassionable too
[07:49] {bruce} out atvi +61
[07:49] {Threei} maybe it lets me out for good behaviour
[07:50] {BillyD} I think so
[07:50] {cosmo} yea...then go on Larry King show
[07:50] {esemde} CVTX
[07:56] {dino} jaso l .00 hl
[07:57] {Threei} BRCM .31 long if stays above .15
[07:57] {Threei} will depend on NQ breaking 2095
[07:58] {Threei} if NQ reverses up off 2090 , BRCM can be entered aggressively
[07:58] {Threei} in
[07:58] {Threei} .14 stop
[07:59] {Threei} nice spike NQ, let's see if BRCM follows
[07:59] {BillyD} fingers crossed
[08:01] {Threei} TIVO stop to .69
[08:03] {dino} out jaso .81, +.81
[08:03] {Threei} wtg
[08:03] {bruce} wow - nice dino
[08:03] {dino} ty, got lucky on it
[08:06] {Roman} CFC on CNBC
[08:07] {Roman} in small just in case
[08:09] {Threei} I don't see anything on GERN
[08:13] {Roman} stopped CFC
[08:14] {Threei} no worky BRCM
[08:15] {BillyD} yeah
[08:18] {Threei} ZIXI
[08:19] {Threei} any insight Roman?
[08:19] {Threei} you used to play this one
[08:21] {Threei} TIVO stop to .74
[08:21] {Threei} my risk here is full cent
[08:23] {Roman} got no read on ZIXI vad
[08:23] {Threei} party pooper
[08:23] {Threei} just say it's going to 6 today
[08:27] {esemde} SOLF making a push up.
[08:27] {dino} ande stop to .59
[08:27] {dino} out +.24
[08:31] {dino} otex
[08:31] {Threei} non stop SOLF
[08:32] {BillyD} yeah
[08:32] {BillyD} be nice to say that about our TIVO.....it's holding though
[08:32] {Threei} ZIXI 4.19 long with 4.09 stop
[08:34] {BillyD} Vad...what quote server you on
[08:34] {Threei} 19
[08:34] {BillyD} ty
[08:35] {BillyD} seem a bit delayed here but could be ISP
[08:36] {esemde} out remaining CSIQ .50 +.47
[08:36] {BillyD} gj ese
[08:37] {esemde} tks
[08:38] {esemde} classic Vad....but i didn't hold for the 1 mill payoff though
[08:38] {Threei} too bad... I hoped for 10%
[08:38] {esemde} done
[08:39] {BillyD} BRCM now goes
[08:40] {Threei} yeah
[08:40] {BillyD} that mkt pb shook us
[08:41] {Roman} CFC took off
[08:42] {Roman} watching LEN
[08:42] {Roman} probably aiming for $17
[08:45] {dino} cyber chart troubles
[08:45] {Threei} ask if need help
[08:46] {dino} ty
[08:47] {dino} apfc
[08:47] {dino} thin
[08:48] {esemde} Still have my classic CSIQ swing trade going....100shs at 14.50
[08:52] {BillyD} Vad...you following BRCM at all
[08:54] {Threei} don't see tradeable pattern
[08:55] {BillyD} referrign to NQ or in itself or both
[08:55] {Threei} their connection
[08:56] {Threei} no clean lead
[08:56] {BillyD} k
[08:58] {dino} apfc s hl .55, thin, risky
[08:59] {dino} atni stopped -.35
[08:59] {Threei} half out TIVO
[09:00] {BillyD} same here
[09:00] {Roman} SEAC long setup
[09:01] {bruce} penx dino
[09:04] {dino} jaso l .02 hl
[09:09] {Threei} SOLF, small shares long if takes this big .70 offer
[09:09] {Threei} stop under .50
[09:11] {BillyD} nice...no fill...
[09:11] {Threei} out 19.05
[09:12] {dino} penx man, remember friday
[09:12] {Threei} sheesh
[09:12] {Threei} what a difference weekend maeth
[09:16] {Threei} CSUN
[09:16] {Threei} .20 half lot long
[09:16] {Threei} .04 stop
[09:17] {Threei} should blast through day high noqw
[09:22] {Threei} stop to .08
[09:22] {Threei} .09
[09:22] {esemde} have a great day everone...i'm off
[09:23] {Threei} take care ese
[09:23] {esemde} see ya vad
[09:23] {bruce} bye ese
[09:24] {Threei} what a bore you are TIVO
[09:24] {Threei} but I know just the thing to deal with boredom
[09:24] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[09:25] {BillyD} poor dave
[09:29] {dino} jaso stop to b/e
[09:31] {Threei} CSUN 1:1
[09:32] {BillyD} out...I took the .25 ty
[09:41] {dino} jaso stopped flat
[09:44] {BillyD} TIVO to .86 on this move hehe
[09:44] {dino} 'penx s .00, hl, stop hod
[09:46] {Threei} billy, you installed new laser?
[09:46] {BillyD} not yet
[09:46] {Threei} anyone did?
[09:47] {BillyD} is the OSM still not working
[09:48] {Threei} not sure
[09:48] {Threei} need to compare notes
[09:48] {BillyD} I think you mentioned it Friday
[09:49] {dino} cov apfc .03, +.52
[09:50] {bruce} I did
[09:51] {bruce} worksbetter
[09:51] {bruce} was having issues with crossed quotes
[09:51] {bruce} knot long play vad?
[09:52] {Threei} bruce, under your routes in dropdown menu,
[09:52] {Threei} do you have new one called
[09:52] {dino} ctel
[09:52] {Threei} CreditSuisse
[09:52] {bruce} yes
[09:52] {bruce} and citadle as well
[09:52] {Threei} ty
[09:53] {bruce} noidea whtat those are about
[09:53] {bruce} maybe we can transfer funds direct to numbrered swiss account now?
[09:53] {Threei} ask laserdave, he'll help ypu with that
[09:53] {Threei} lol
[09:53] {BillyD} lol
[09:55] {BillyD} Vad...on stocks like CSU w/ 1/2 lot...are you more inclened to partial
[09:55] {BillyD} CSUN
[09:55] {Threei} depends... no general rule
[09:55] {Threei} today, no
[09:55] {BillyD} ok
[10:06] {BillyD} Vad..any thought on potential XMSR short
[10:07] {Threei} it's news expectation stock right now
[10:07] {BillyD} still...ok
[10:13] {dino} penx bstop to .60
[10:17] {dino} to .42
[10:17] {dino} btw, thx for the heads up on it bruce
[10:17] {bruce} welcome dino
[10:17] {bruce} glad it worked out
[10:18] {dino} :)
[10:19] {dino} to .26
[10:20] {dino} cov slippage .31, +.69
[10:24] {bruce} nice trade dino
[10:24] {bruce} 5 more like that and you can take off rest of day
[10:24] {dino} sm l fslr .60 wide
[10:25] {dino} ty bruce
[10:35] {bruce} any read ttwo vad?
[10:35] {Threei} not really
[10:35] {Threei} don't like time of the day for this chart
[10:36] {bruce} k
[10:36] {BillyD} out rest TIVO .85]
[10:40] {bruce} taking break
[10:42] {dino} axyx drop
[10:43] {Threei} OMS module works
[10:43] {Threei} and looks like offers stops
[10:43] {BillyD} that is for stops right
[10:43] {BillyD} ok
[10:43] {Threei} I am not terribly intyerested but those who are may want to find out more about this from dave
[10:44] {BillyD} I like in cas e have to step away from pc
[10:44] {Threei} yes
[10:44] {BillyD} still consider this expanding range mkt
[10:44] {dino} axys l hl .68
[10:46] {BillyD} have seen some shorts but didn't have the conviction of continuation
[10:47] {BillyD} XMSR news?
[10:48] {Threei} I don't see anything on wires yet
[10:49] {BillyD} ty
[10:51] {cosmo} TTWO test hod @ 16.60
[10:53] {dino} asfi
[10:53] {dino} nah
[10:55] {Threei} IRANIAN PRES AHMADINEJAD: IRAN OPPOSES OPEC PRODUCTION INCREASE
[10:55] {Threei} who would have doubted
[10:56] {Threei} I guess tension rises as announcement time nears billy. that's all
[10:56] {BillyD} ok
[10:56] {BillyD} when is time?
[10:56] {Threei} not a fixed event
[10:56] {BillyD} ok
[10:56] {Threei} just expected today or nearest days
[10:57] {BillyD} small short on it here .90 stop over 16
[11:02] {cosmo} ttwo test
[11:03] {Threei} RIMM
[11:03] {Threei} looks long small shares with stop under 106
[11:04] {Threei} in
[11:06] {Threei} 1:1
[11:06] {Threei} out +.45
[11:06] {Chaeron} niiiice
[11:07] {dino} gj
[11:09] {Threei} will be crying probably
[11:10] {Threei} LIBYA'S GHANEM: OIL MARKET IS 'VERY WELL SUPPLIED', OPEC DOES NOT NEED TO INCREASE PRODUCTION
[11:11] {dino} lstr
[11:11] {BillyD} out XMSR 0-.12
[11:18] {dino} axys stop to .28
[11:18] {BillyD} ZIXI still around Vad even though brokedown
[11:18] {Threei} GSOL small shares .50 break long
[11:18] {Threei} risky one
[11:18] {Threei} yes billy
[11:19] {Threei} GSOL valid if stays above .30
[11:19] {Threei} disregard
[11:19] {BillyD} rflol
[11:19] {Threei} didn't take long did it :)
[11:19] {dino} out +.60
[11:19] {BillyD} no
[11:19] {BillyD} gj dino
[11:19] {Threei} nice one
[11:19] {dino} ty
[11:19] {lumdus} gsol spread of .10
[11:23] {BillyD} SOLF trying again
[11:24] {BillyD} if this offer on ZIXI ?
[11:24] {BillyD} gets taken
[11:24] {Threei} yes sir
[11:25] {dino} strange market, shld up 6 rimm down 7....what would you want to own?
[11:25] {BillyD} looking SOLF here if .50 gets taken small
[11:27] {BillyD} +.18 on SOLF
[11:33] {Threei} nice
[11:33] {Threei} come on ZIXI, set up
[11:33] {BillyD} waiting here
[11:36] {lumdus} zixi .20 trigger ?
[11:36] {Threei} .19
[11:37] {Threei} want this huge offer taken as an entry signal
[11:41] {bruce} vad - zixi has a range of only 30 c for whole day
[11:41] {BillyD} Vad, still in TIVO?
[11:41] {bruce} why trade a stock w such a small range?
[11:42] {Threei} yes billy
[11:42] {BillyD} man of patience award
[11:42] {cosmo} man of coma
[11:42] {Threei} it's capable of much more bruce, look at its daily
[11:42] {Threei} lol cosmo
[11:42] {BillyD} 4.16 is 52 wk high bruce
[11:43] {bruce} k
[11:44] {dino} jaso l .06
[11:44] {dino} sigm strong
[11:44] {dino} cdti?
[11:45] {Threei} one wird daily
[11:45] {Threei} wierd
[11:45] {Threei} was it reverse slpit or something?
[11:46] {Threei} flatline at $3 for ages, then 15
[11:46] {dino} hans spike
[11:46] {dino} dk on cdti
[11:46] {Threei} and what a spread
[11:46] {Threei} $2.20?? :)
[11:46] {Threei} dk?
[11:47] {BillyD} dino kind?
[11:47] {Threei} lol
[11:47] {dino} lol
[11:48] {dino} don't know
[11:50] {BillyD} is CSUN gonna try and follow SOLF
[11:53] {Threei} and if yes, how successful is it going to be
[11:54] {BillyD} you invoked doubt into my conviction.......reasonably so though
[11:54] {BillyD} in .50 scalp if poss
[11:55] {BillyD} out
[11:55] {BillyD} +.12
[11:55] {Threei} :)
[11:56] {BillyD} not enough conviction for full lot
[12:00] {Threei} ZIXI looks preparing
[12:01] {BillyD} lol...I feel like the big bad wolf waiting for it
[12:01] {Threei} lol
[12:01] {BillyD} CSUN laughs at me
[12:01] {BillyD} calls me little red rigding hood
[12:02] {Threei} you are lucky... since I never entered this round it won't even as much as look at me
[12:02] {dino} i've been called worse
[12:02] {Threei} lol
[12:02] {BillyD} lol
[12:02] {Threei} OK guys, time for me to leave unfortunately
[12:03] {BillyD} cya Vad
[12:03] {Threei} be good, I'll see you tomorrow
[12:03] {dino} sm riskyyyyy s cdti .35 wide
[12:03] {Threei} and report to santa
[12:03] {dino} back in ten
[12:03] {dino} cya vad
[12:04] {bruce} brkr any read vAD?
[12:20] {dino} lstr
[12:20] {dino} i think a conference call is on right now w/it
[12:20] {dino} luna drop
[12:31] {bruce} untd dino
[12:31] {dino} dk
[12:31] {dino} bounce may have happened already
[12:32] {dino} wow solf
[12:32] {BillyD} yeah
[12:34] {cosmo} its happy
[12:37] {dptl} in zixi?
[12:37] {BillyD} yes
[12:50] {bruce} calling it a day
[12:50] {bruce} see everyone in am
[12:50] {BillyD} cta bruce
[12:51] {dino} jaso stopped -.34
[12:54] {BillyD} out ZIXI -.05
[13:00] {dino} cov cdti .75, +.60
[13:00] {dino} thats all, thx all
[13:01] {BillyD} nice one dino
[13:02] {dino} ty billy, crazy ride