Tuesday, June 22, 2010

Jun 22 2010

"Catch of the day" today is somewhat unusual for us but one of my favorites. It's so-called risk-based setup - the odds of its working are 50/50, but the risk is so small that it can be taken on that alone. In this case it happened so that reward was unusually big too.  It was quite unclear whether stock would go for breakout or fail - the stop size was 15 cents which is nothing for BIDU. See the chart



Session Time: Tue Jun 22 00:00:00 2010

[07:45] {hawk} good morning
[08:24] {Threei}  good morning
[08:25] {hawk} Vad :)  Bp getting dp'ed
[08:25] {Threei}  together with UK residents:
[08:25] {Threei}  (UK) UK Chancellor Osborne: Emergency budget to increase VAT to 20% v 17.5% prior (as expected)
[08:25] {Threei}  - VAT increase to raise 13B annualy by 2014/15 period
[08:25] {Threei}  - Increases capital gains tax to 28% v 18% prior. Lower and middle class tax payers are exempt from the 28% rate. Capital gains for majority investors to remain protected
[08:25] {Threei}  - Higher rate income tax threshold frozen until 2013-14. To increase the income tax free threshold to 10K
[08:27] {Threei}  AFFY
[08:27] {Threei}  Affymax Receives $30M Milestone Payments for Database Lock of Phase 3 Clinical Trials for Hematide/peginesatide
[08:30] {Threei}  BP.UK Plan to raise debt capital is facing snags; plan may be pushed back two or three weeks - NY Post
[08:30] {Threei}  June 21, 2010 10:10:45 PM
[08:30] {Threei}  British Petroleum plc An employee warned BP and Transocean about a problem related to the blow-out preventer weeks before Gulf of Mexico incident - London Telegraph
[08:30] {Threei}  - The oil worker who survived the accident warned that it was a leak on the rig's safety device.
[08:30] {Threei}  - The worker added that the problem hardware was switched off instead of being repaired.
[08:32] {hawk} ouch, that worked out well (pun intended)
[08:32] {Threei}  no kidding
[08:33] {Threei}  (UK) British Bankers Assn: Bank levies should be coordinated internationally, notes it is "committed to working with the govt on bank levies
[08:33] {Threei}  what a dumb idea
[08:33] {Threei}  - Important that international banks are not taxed multiple times in different nations.
[08:34] {Threei}  no worry, in 5 years they are all will be canadian, brasilian and chinese banks
[08:35] {Threei}  under the slogan "Tax this!"
[08:35] {hawk} lol
[08:36] {Threei}  I mean, there is a reason why on Royal Caribbean cruise ships there are words Nassau Bahamas, right?
[08:43] {Les} morning
[08:43] {nemo} afternoon
[08:43] {Threei}  les, nemo :)
[08:43] {Les} fixed my RAM problem
[08:43] {nemo} ?
[08:43] {Les} stopped using Microsoft's silverlight plugin
[08:43] {nemo} Vad :)
[08:44] {Les} got a screen full of laser charts now
[08:44] {nemo} can't use Freestockcharts now
[08:44] {Les} much easier on the computer's processor and memory
[08:44] {Les} why?
[08:44] {nemo} it runs on silverlight
[08:44] {Les} and...?
[08:45] {nemo} If you take the engine out of a car, what happens?
[08:45] {Les} you walk
[08:45] {Les} why did you pull silverlight?
[08:45] {nemo} I didn't
[08:45] {nemo} you did
[08:45] {Les} aaaaaaaaah
[08:46] {Les} I keep 2 screens, instead of 6 like before
[08:46] {Les} windows, not screens
[08:46] {Threei}  silverlight is a memory hog
[08:46] {Les} i can see it is terrible
[08:46] {Les} having reduced its use
[08:47] {Les} but i love it's indicator layout
[08:52] {nemo} bidu breaking out again
[08:56] {Les} wondering if TZA has found a bottom on daily, somewhere around this .50 level
[08:57] {Threei}  well, TZA is not a stock
[08:58] {Threei}  your question is akin to "wondering if market has topped"
[08:58] {dptl} good morning
[08:58] {Threei}  dp :)
[08:59] {Les} yep
[09:07] {RonS} gm all...fascinating to me that w/ the UK "austerity" measures that the fact is that government is the penultimate sacred cow.  i mean for chrissakes even God only wants 10%.
[09:08] {Threei}  Ron :)
[09:08] {Threei}  whole "emergency budget" reads like nightmare coming true
[09:08] {Threei}  they obviously are trying to reproduce canadian measures of 1990s
[09:09] {Threei}  but the situation is very different
[09:09] {RonS} Canada has true resources.
[09:09] {Threei}  that, and a lot more
[09:09] {RonS} small pop v. those resources
[09:09] {Threei}  Canada hasn't had horrifically high taxes and incredibly high prices when started its austerity
[09:10] {Threei}  so it was tough,
[09:10] {Threei}  but it was not on top of tougher
[09:11] {Threei}  UK being one of the most expensive places on the planet simply has less, or no, room to make life even more expensive
[09:11] {RonS} ...talk now about the loonie and the aussie dollar being "reserve" currencies. they're trying to kill you Vad...
[09:11] {Threei}  sigh
[09:11] {Threei}  it's just silly talk
[09:12] {Threei}  CDN can't be reserve curency for the world
[09:12] {Threei}  but of course, it will get a push out of this nonsense
[09:12] {RonS} i know, i know...just trying to heighten your consternation, or it is constipation?...
[09:13] {Threei}  it's general contempt with the world
[09:13] {Threei}  but I have had it for quite a while
[09:13] {Threei}  so nothing really new :)
[09:14] {RonS} ...my theory is that everyone matches his/her genetics and personlaity for the age in which they live.  Sometime it meshes, sometimes not.  I, obviously live in the wrong time period.
[09:15] {Threei}  which would you prefer?
[09:15] {RonS} ...but all revolutions have come from disaffected intellectuals.
[09:15] {Threei}  CCL Reports Q2 $0.32 v $0.29e, R$3.2B v $3.3Be
[09:17] {Threei}  CCL and RCL sell off
[09:19] {larisa} gm :)
[09:19] {magoo} mornink comrades (oldie)
[09:20] {hawk} but a goodie
[09:21] {Threei}  larisa, magoo :)
[09:21] {RonS} ...reminds me of Rockie and Bullwinkle...and Boris and Natasha...
[09:22] {RonS} "fanmail from some flounder?"
[09:22] {lasertrev} morning
[09:22] {Threei}  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michael_barone/obama_s_thuggery_is_useless_in_fighting_spill
[09:23] {RonS} omg, there is common sense?
[09:26] {Les} affy pumping along nicely from .50 break. gotta run. back later.
[09:26] {Threei}  CCL short candidate
[09:27] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:27] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:27] {bellowsbunch} morning
[09:28] {Threei}  bellow :)
[09:28] {Threei}  BP...
[09:28] {Threei}  bumping onto .60
[09:28] {Threei}  hard to tell brteakout or double top
[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: BP  .50 brea
[09:30] {Threei}  if stays under .60
[09:30] {dino} gm all
[09:30] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:31] {dino} affy gets 30m pmt
[09:32] {Threei}  no go BP
[09:32] {dino} affy sm l .55
[09:33] {Threei}  BIDU
[09:33] {Threei}  watching for bounce
[09:34] {Threei}  one more sharp dive, most likely
[09:34] {Threei}  to about .30 - .40
[09:34] {magoo} rimm too vad
[09:34] {Threei}  ugh
[09:35] {Threei}  jumpy
[09:35] {magoo} ugg rimm
[09:37] {Threei}  here comes BIDU
[09:37] {nemo} closed around .36
[09:37] {Threei}  let it drop more
[09:37] {Threei}  not ready yet
[09:39] {Threei}  RIMM, watch for double bottom closer to .20 - .25
[09:39] {RonS} Bernstein making neg V call....thinks yesterday's modification of Durbin Ammendment has negative implications for V (positive for MA) that the market has not picked up on......says V will lose its debit exclusivity with its issuers....."On the negative side, the new language incorporates a "no exclusive network" provision that we think could very substantiall
[09:40] {Threei}  no clean bounce setup for either, RIMM or BIDU
[09:40] {RonS} jef up big...earnings
[09:41] {Threei}  first instinct was right on BIDU
[09:41] {Threei}  [09:34] {Threei} to about .30 - .40
[09:41] {Threei}  but no readable setup at the moment
[09:41] {magoo} quick both
[09:41] {hawk} took bidu .61 out .93, thx vad
[09:41] {Threei}  :)
[09:41] {Threei}  US) Preview: May Existing Home Sales due out at 10:00ET
[09:41] {Threei}  **Consensus expectation: 6.1Me v 5.77M prior
[09:41] {bellowsbunch} me too
[09:42] {Threei}  as long as you get a feel for entry where I can outline general idea, good job
[09:42] {Threei}  particular call by me requires exact setup
[09:43] {Threei}  US) Preview: June Richmond Fed Manufacturing Index due out at 10:00ET
[09:43] {Threei}  **Consensus expectation: 20e v 26 prior
[09:43] {Threei}  LVS, long entry on pullback to 26.95 - 27
[09:44] {Threei}  .10 break is classic setup, just not sure about breaks yet
[09:44] {Threei}  US) US House Majority Leader Hoyer: Tax cuts for middle class could be 'unaffordable' given the fiscal outlook
[09:44] {Threei}  but tax rise is affordable
[09:44] {Threei}  stop this planet, I want out
[09:44] {nemo} huge offer at .12 taken
[09:45] {Threei}  market spike took LVS with it
[09:45] {Threei}  anyone went for break, take scalp, this is not really sustainable spike, IMO
[09:45] {nemo} there was a huge offer at .12, didn't get to alert
[09:45] {Threei}  there was one at .08 too
[09:45] {RonS} omx squeeze happening
[09:46] {Threei} Short Setup: BIDU  .40 break
[09:46] {nemo} bid at .20
[09:46] {RonS} 10% float short
[09:46] {Threei}  if stays under .55
[09:46] {Threei}  1:1
[09:46] {nemo} where stop on lvs?
[09:46] {Threei}  stop for what?
[09:47] {nemo} I took break of .12
[09:47] {Threei}  09:45] {Threei} anyone went for break, take scalp, this is not really sustainable spike, IMO
[09:47] {nemo} o.k.
[09:47] {nemo} so, once I don't want to be a scalper
[09:47] {nemo} :)
[09:49] {Threei}  HOKU
[09:49] {nemo} funny...I'd thought stop to .10
[09:49] {Threei}  no news that I see
[09:50] {Threei}  BIDU 1 to I have no idea
[09:50] {Threei}  I can't count that far
[09:50] {nemo} 1:8
[09:50] {Threei}  thank you
[09:53] {Threei}  watching LVS for bounce
[09:53] {RonS} dino, big selloff dndn
[09:53] {Threei}  off .90 most likely
[09:54] {Threei}  OK, watching for 5 cents recross
[09:55] {dino} thx
[09:57] {Threei}  1:1 for scalpers LVS
[09:57] {dino} hl l dndn .00
[09:57] {dino} itri
[09:59] {Threei}  US) RICHMOND FED MANUFACTURING INDEX: 23 V 20E
[10:00] {Threei}  US) MAY EXISTING HOME SALES: 5.66M V 6.1ME
[10:00] {Threei}  yikes
[10:00] {dino} 8k credit exp
[10:00] {Threei}  EU) EURO ZONE JUN ADVANCE CONSUMER CONFIDENCE: -17 V -19E
[10:00] {Threei}  yikes
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) APRIL HOUSE PRICE INDEX: 0.8% V 0.3%E
[10:01] {dino} ronzo thx dndn out .34, +.40
[10:01] {Threei}  what else did they think was going to happen when all kinds of stimulus spending run out
[10:01] {RonS} yw
[10:01] {dino} nice spot
[10:01] {Threei}  same hole, just deeper
[10:02] {Threei}  but hey!
[10:02] {Threei}  Treasury Sec Geithner: Still sees a positive return from TARP investments in banks
[10:02] {nemo} rimm happy
[10:02] {Threei}  hope springs eternal?
[10:02] {Threei}  DNDN Hearing Cowen making positive comments (35.17, -1.66, -4.51%)
[10:02] {RonS} lol...they must have a position
[10:04] {Threei}  - Sees TARP increasing budget deficit by $105B, lower by $11.4B from February estimate.
[10:04] {Threei}  - Treasury is well on the way to winding down TARP, banks have repaid 75% of TARP funds they received.
[10:04] {Threei}  - TARP investments in AIG will produce losses.
[10:04] {Threei}  - Losses from GMAC to be less than anticipated.
[10:04] {Threei}  - Treasury will return hundreds of billions in unused TARP authority.
[10:05] {nemo} well, we know where that will go
[10:05] {nemo} BIdu, damn
[10:06] {dino} itri sm l .75
[10:07] {dino} dndn hl l .09
[10:08] {nemo} fcx break of .30
[10:08] {nemo} stop under .15 half lot
[10:09] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .90 break
[10:09] {Threei}  if stays above .80
[10:09] {nemo} 1:1 fcx
[10:10] {nemo} 2:1
[10:10] {nemo} stop to .40
[10:11] {RonS} pcx whacked...news...mine closing
[10:11] {Threei}  17:11 PCX To close Harris No. 1 mine due to sudden adverse geologic conditions in the primary conveyor belt and travel entries of the mine
[10:11] {Threei}
[10:11] {Threei}  LVS 1:1, half out
[10:12] {Threei}  scalpers know what to do
[10:13] {dino} out iitri .15, +.40
[10:13] {Threei}  scalpers win
[10:15] {nemo} rimm staying happy
[10:15] {nemo} stop to .50 fcx
[10:15] {dino} out dndn .05 -.04
[10:16] {dino} chickened out
[10:16] {nemo} 1:3 fcx
[10:17] {dino} feels like big move in markets coming
[10:17] {dino} gj nemo
[10:17] {nemo} bc
[10:19] {dino} ntes?
[10:19] {Threei}  no news
[10:20] {nemo} out rest fcx
[10:20] {nemo} +.45
[10:20] {larisa} gj
[10:20] {nemo} BC
[10:20] {nemo} funny still holding above .50 stop but was getting antsy
[10:21] {larisa} what BC means, british columbia? :)
[10:21] {Threei}  DNDN Hearing JP Morgan defends the name (timing uncertain) (35.18, -1.65, -4.48%)
[10:21] {nemo} Broken Clock moment
[10:21] {larisa} lol
[10:21] {nemo} I get two a day
[10:22] {Threei}  and if you get three, you are a very broken clock or what?
[10:22] {nemo} I'll have to come up with something else
[10:23] {larisa} FCX counts for 2
[10:23] {dino} gap around 30.50
[10:23] {dino} will wait around 30.60
[10:23] {dino} bc?
[10:23] {dino} bird cage?
[10:23] {dino} ahhhh
[10:23] {dino} you need to tell us which two in advance
[10:23] {nemo} tomorrow's paper today?
[10:23] {Threei}  Moody's revises gaming industry sector outlook to stable from negative
[10:23] {Threei}  - The stable outlook reflects Moody's belief that the overall credit conditions of the U.S. gaming industry will neither erode norimprove materially during the next 12 to 18 months.
[10:24] {dino} dndn hl l .25
[10:25] {nemo} what up with Les, not a peep...not that I mind
[10:26] {larisa} hw said dirty kitchen looks better than the market. may be wife did not agree and they have summer cleaning :)
[10:30] {dino} dndn stopped -.26
[10:31] {Threei}  Fedex Corp CEO: Country must be put on path towards millions, then tens of millions, and then hundreds of millions of electric cars and trucks
[10:31] {Threei}  seriously?
[10:31] {Threei}  he ever looked into this technology?
[10:31] {Threei}  knows anything about it?
[10:32] {Threei}  wtf is happening with amateur hour on the scale of the whole country?
[10:32] {Threei}  everyone knows how to solve the energy problem, drill wells, run war etc etc
[10:34] {larisa} including us. I had a dream about fixing the oil pipe. Hubby said, not a bad solution :)
[10:34] {RonS} ...must be a smart man
[10:35] {larisa} very good engineer. I am bad one, but have a bit of brains too :)
[10:36] {Threei}  I've no idea how to fix it
[10:36] {Threei}  but I am not running around screaming they should nuke it
[10:37] {RonS} i like Obama's idea:  human sacrifice via moratoriam
[10:38] {RonS} pandering to the gods and the masses while doing nothing...oh, i guess he is playing golf
[10:40] {dino} dndn hl l .00
[10:41] {shorty} morning
[10:41] {Threei}  shorty :)
[10:44] {Threei}  finally
[10:44] {Threei}  Twelve percent (12%) say that Congress is doing a good or an excellent job
[10:44] {Threei}  I think I've nailed the ratio of idiots once and for all
[10:44] {nemo} no...it's much higher than that
[10:45] {Threei}  I should have said, incorrigible idiots
[10:45] {nemo} no, those are mutants
[10:45] {Threei}  above that it's a "idiot mode on/off", with various degree of frequency of switching between modes
[10:45] {Threei}  12% is permanent On
[10:46] {Threei}  DNDN Aetna is covering Provenge (sipuleucel- T) for the treatment of prostate cancer
[10:46] {hawk} dino, you rock, thx :) +.67 dndn
[10:46] {RonS} boom
[10:46] {nemo} goes to .20
[10:46] {Threei}  DNDN Ticks higher as Aetna document circulates which appears to confirm the insurer will cover Provenge (sipuleucel- T) for the treatment of prostate cancer
[10:47] {Threei}  "appears"
[10:47] {dino} thx hawk, lucky, ron's find
[10:47] {dino} out dndn .84, +.84
[10:47] {hawk} thank you ron :)
[10:47] {Threei}  wtg guys
[10:48] {dino} ronnnzzzzzzoooooo
[10:50] {RonS} pcx blood...looking for 14 break and re-trace...maybe
[10:51] {Threei}  GOP candidate for the next election seems to be defined in public opinion
[10:51] {Threei}  Nearly as many (49%) say former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, an unsuccessful candidate for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, is qualified to be president of the United States. Thirty-two percent (32%) say Romney is not qualified, but another 20% are not sure.
[10:51] {dino} guliani
[10:52] {RonS} omg...
[10:52] {dino} well, romney blew it w/heathcare
[10:52] {dino} can't be trusted
[10:52] {dino} i know, lets get jeb
[10:52] {RonS} g man is a charlatan
[10:53] {RonS} wannabe country club republican
[10:53] {dino} don't know what to do w/pcx ron
[10:53] {RonS} prefer the real thing who at least has real executive experience
[10:54] {RonS} but it is moot.  prejudice against Mormonism too strong
[10:54] {dino} how about this new nj gov, so far i like him
[10:55] {RonS} he is a trip...in a good way...i always like jackie gleason...fat boys rock
[10:55] {dino} to the moon
[10:55] {dino} dndn new support around .50
[10:58] {Les} how was the opening?
[10:58] {dino} enjoyable
[10:59] {Les} cool
[10:59] {Les} ccl break of 34?
[10:59] {Les} too late
[11:00] {Les} if holding .95? .90?
[11:01] {Threei}  not delighted
[11:01] {Les} ok
[11:01] {Les} started thinking of shorting on a bounce to 34
[11:02] {dino} ntri
[11:02] {Les} bidu read vad? at 76
[11:03] {Threei}  breakdown, maybe
[11:03] {Threei}  52/48
[11:03] {RonS} wtf ntri?
[11:04] {shorty} Some fat celeb is probably endorsing ntri
[11:04] {Les} lol
[11:04] {RonS} ...must of signed up Christie as spokesperson...lol...
[11:04] {Les} a clear outlook on life shorty
[11:04] {Les} i like it
[11:05] {shorty} :)
[11:05] {dino} dk ron
[11:05] {dino} not avail cyber
[11:06] {RonS} whoa 47%  float ntri short
[11:08] {Les} s bidu .90 stop above.10
[11:08] {Threei}  why .90?
[11:08] {Threei}  76 was much cleaner trigger
[11:09] {Les} yeh I know. late to the party.
[11:09] {Threei}  ok, but why are you chasing?
[11:09] {Threei}  if you are late, you are late
[11:10] {dino} itri hl l .51
[11:11] {Threei}  Les... by entering this way you are ruining your r/r
[11:11] {Threei}  look at what happened:
[11:11] {Threei}  76 entry gave you almost 1:2 before reversing
[11:11] {Les} yes I can see that
[11:12] {Threei}  .90 entry , you see for yourself
[11:12] {Threei}  this is not a first time I see you doing this
[11:12] {Threei}  trigger is where it is for a reason,
[11:12] {Threei}  play should not be taken just to participate
[11:12] {Threei}  there is reasonable limit to chasing,
[11:12] {jfjf64} you tell em vad
[11:12] {Threei}  doubling your stop is not it
[11:13] {jfjf64} lol
[11:13] {jfjf64} dont mind me
[11:13] {Threei}  you just wait till I notice you doing aything of this kind :)
[11:14] {Les} yeh but it is also 1st trade of the day and I see market is freezing and and washing out
[11:14] {Threei}  so?
[11:14] {Les} - and
[11:14] {Les} it won't happen again today
[11:14] {Threei}  market does what it does,
[11:14] {RonS} Dallas: Fastest growing U.S. city...and the place is gawdawful, not horrible, but gawdawful
[11:14] {Threei}  it has no idea about yor needs and wants
[11:14] {nemo} I like Fort Worth
[11:14] {Les} I saw market breaking down
[11:14] {Les} it didn't
[11:14] {RonS} same weather...it sucks
[11:15] {nemo} Yeah, but I like that city better
[11:15] {RonS} true
[11:15] {larisa} anybody visited Asheville NC ?
[11:16] {nemo} yes...absolutely beautiful
[11:16] {larisa} thanks nemo
[11:16] {nemo} one of my favorite musicians lives there
[11:16] {larisa} hubby wants to relocate there
[11:16] {shorty} I really like SC and NC.  Awesome country there.
[11:16] {nemo} NC mountains
[11:17] {RonS} sc has lower taxes...
[11:17] {nemo} I lived in SC, unless you're near the coast, keep it
[11:17] {larisa} I am mountain girl. love the nature
[11:17] {shorty} I realy likes Anderson SC
[11:18] {RonS} the dem noreasterner have moved to nc and turned into a high tax state
[11:18] {shorty} liked
[11:18] {nemo} have friends there too
06[11:18] * larisa slaps RonS around a bit with a large trout
[11:19] {RonS} i hear eastern TN is nice...knoxville...if you can understand the natives' accent
[11:19] {shorty} Only the one today Threei? LVS?
[11:19] {dino} condo in sunset, nc, luv it
[11:20] {RonS} bidu shorty
[11:20] {nemo} fcx
[11:20] {nemo} shorty
[11:20] {shorty} ty
[11:20] {Threei}  09:46] {Alert} Threei Short Setup: BIDU .40 break
[11:20] {Threei}  [09:46] {Alert} Threei if stays under .55
[11:20] {nemo} went 1:8
[11:20] {shorty}  :O
[11:21] {RonS} 100 mile vistas, CO, luv it...
[11:21] {shorty} I know that I would have been out when it hit 1:1
[11:21] {shorty} That is why I loved trucking sooooo much.
[11:22] {dino} itri stop to .80
[11:22] {dino} make it .90 expect slip
[11:23] {shorty} Texas reminds me of Alberta.
[11:24] {dino} to .95
[11:26] {dino} out itri .06, +.55
[11:27] {dino} dndn pullback
[11:30] {RonS} 31, check the dailies on biib, amgn, celg, genz, gild.  There has got to be a play in here...
[11:30] {RonS} 31 = 3i
[11:31] {Threei}  CELG looks decent
[11:32] {Threei}  GENZ overextended a bit
[11:33] {dino} at least you didn't call him #2
[11:33] {Les} lvs long if pullback to under 27?
[11:34] {RonS} or Johnson
[11:34] {dino} lol
[11:34] {dino} itri too soon
[11:39] {Threei}  looks about right Les
[11:39] {Les} here, or under 27
[11:39] {Les} ?
[11:39] {Threei}  under
[11:48] {Threei}  LVS is trying to form C&H instead
[11:48] {Threei}  can't say I feel enthusiastic about it
[11:48] {nemo} lunch time
[11:51] {nemo} speaking of bidu  Offer .38
[11:51] {RonS} celg is forming c&h
[11:55] {dino} dndn
[11:56] {Les} s GG .49 stop above .60
[11:58] {Les} gg covered +.11
[11:58] {Les} l lvs .01 .95 stop
[11:58] {RonS} nuts, this mtb bank thing is not done...slap me w/ a trout
06[11:58] * nemo slaps RonS around a bit with a large lead pipe
[12:00] {Les} out lvs +.09
[12:01] {dino} gj
[12:02] {dino} fdx sm l .05
[12:03] {nemo} BIDU maybe setting up IC&H
[12:05] {nemo} might want back into LVS here Les
[12:05] {nemo} nice catch on FDX dino
[12:05] {Les} hmmm long or short I can't decide
[12:05] {nemo} long
[12:06] {nemo} play for scalp, watch the market
[12:06] {dino} ty nemo
[12:06] {Les} index's mixed up in MA's, which I hate to work with
[12:06] {nemo} offers .08
[12:06] {dino} "play for blood"
[12:06] {Les} sounds rather brutal coming from you dino
[12:06] {dino} tombstone
[12:07] {nemo} Les would make a nice huckleberry
[12:07] {dino} lol, i got two guns one for each of you
[12:07] {Les} you've got me there nemo. have to read the story
[12:07] {nemo} heheheh
[12:07] {nemo} see the movie
[12:07] {dino} great flick
[12:07] {Les} tombstone? this film I know
[12:08] {nemo} obviously not
[12:08] {Les} but huckleberry fin...
06[12:08] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large copy of the script to Tombstone
[12:08] {Threei}  want me to give you a reason for crying?
[12:08] {Threei}  here goes:
[12:08] {dino} dino slaps him again
[12:08] {nemo} what don't you want us to look at
[12:08] {Threei}  US) Treasury Sec Geithner: Obama administration is likely to conclude that the govt should retain a role in guaranteeing mortgages
[12:08] {Les} hahaha
[12:09] {Les} you socialist parasites!!!
[12:09] {Les} no nemo, I don't know what it is to be a 'huckleberry'
[12:09] {Threei}  US) US House Rep Frank: Expecting to finish the FINREG bill by Thursday, June 24; as expected
[12:09] {Threei}  - If not able to finish Thursday then it cannot pass until middle of July
[12:09] {dino} politicians are just pushing down the road for some other generationto deal w/it
[12:10] {nemo} c'mon lvs, break down .08!
[12:10] {dino} dndn l .61, stop .48
[12:12] {Les} CCL vad
[12:12] {Les} keeps returning to .85
[12:12] {dino} stopped -.13
[12:12] {Les} b/d from here?
[12:13] {nemo} should bounce here dino
[12:13] {Les} vwap bounce?
[12:13] {nemo} yep
[12:13] {Les} happens often?
[12:13] {nemo} also have pivot support within .10
[12:13] {Threei}  CCL?
[12:13] {nemo} watch, see if it does
[12:13] {Threei}  totally inactive
[12:13] {Les} oh
[12:14] {nemo} pivot support here
[12:14] {Les} I don't have pivot here nemo of dndnd
[12:14] {nemo} bounced off
[12:14] {nemo} I do, .35
[12:14] {shorty} do
[12:14] {Les} can you send me a screenshot?
[12:16] {Les} http://uploads.mibbit.com/5QN9Af.gif
[12:16] {Les} I'll show you mine
[12:16] {nemo} workin' on it Les
[12:17] {Threei}  BP Coast Guard updates plans, notes a diconnect from containment system would be necessary 3-7 days before an impending Hurricane impact
[12:17] {nemo} snipping tool locked up my system
[12:18] {Les} http://www.wisdom-soft.com/products/screenhunter.htm
[12:18] {Les} u using this?
[12:19] {Les} so lvs was a long scalp
[12:19] {nemo} yeah
[12:19] {nemo} and yeah
[12:19] {nemo} now
[12:19] {nemo} tried snipping tool that came with VISTA pain in ass
[12:20] {Les} microsoft...
[12:20] {Les} you should know better
[12:22] {Threei}  you do know who is on TV, right?
[12:22] {dino} i hope john galt
[12:22] {Threei}  leave the hope...
[12:22] {RonS} the market bummer
[12:23] {dino} out fdx .44, +.39
[12:23] {nemo} on its way les
[12:23] {dino} market destroyer
[12:24] {Les} damn wanted dndn .40 b/d
[12:24] {Les} things I do to support a wife and kids
[12:25] {nemo} things your wife does to support you and the kids
[12:25] {nemo} might partial LVS here
[12:26] {nemo} especially with him on TV
[12:26] {nemo} yep
[12:28] {nemo} you get the email Leslie
[12:28] {nemo} ?
[12:32] {Les} back. let me check
[12:33] {Les} that's not pivot. what is that
[12:33] {dino} wow dndn
[12:33] {Threei}  US) President Obama: Insurance companies should not see the healthcare reform process as an opportunity for "unjustifiable" rate increases
[12:34] {Threei}  he'll never get it
[12:34] {Threei}  business moves accordingly to motivations you set,
[12:34] {nemo} dndn bounced at pivot support
[12:35] {Threei}  should or should not has nothing to do wioth it
[12:35] {Threei}  you make education loans easy - tuition fees increase
[12:35] {shorty} maybe he just says that so the majority thinks he cares?
[12:35] {Threei}  you guarantee mortgage loans - housing price increase
[12:35] {Threei}  start paying for health care - insurance premiums wil increase
[12:36] {Threei}  economics work on motives, not on morals or ethics
[12:37] {Threei}  whatever... it's all doomed anyway :)
[12:37] {Threei}  (US) President Obama: - Tells CEOs of insurance companies that they will be required to publicaly justify any large rate increases
[12:37] {dino} oooohhhhhhhhh
[12:38] {Threei}  as if they couldn't justify Earth being conus-shaped if there were profit in it
[12:38] {Les} nothing like a goodl old witch hunt
[12:38] {dino} all this guy does is try to verbally bully businesses
[12:39] {Threei}  pay me enoug and I will prove Earth is flat and lies on the backs of seven elephants standing on the huge tortouse
[12:39] {nemo} dndn either bounces or short here
[12:39] {Les} looking for recross short
[12:39] {shorty} Stelmach tried that in Alberta by increasing royalties.
[12:39] {dino} no 3i, the turtle of amazing girth, upon his back he carries the earth
[12:39] {Threei}  right
[12:40] {dino} obama is a "breaker"
[12:40] {Threei}  I'll throw elephants in for free :)
[12:40] {dino} nemo, dndn, where
[12:40] {dino} 00 break?
[12:40] {nemo} I would already be in
[12:40] {nemo} but .00 works
[12:42] {nemo} now short
[12:42] {dino} feels like db coming on it
[12:43] {RonS} le rinse of the weak longs
[12:44] {Les} lvs .95 b/d if holding .00 vad?=
[12:44] {Les} - =
[12:44] {Threei}  probably...
[12:45] {Threei}  kind of narrowed down
[12:45] {Threei}  will require considerable market move to work any direction
[12:46] {dino} hl l dndn .76
[12:46] {shorty} Target on dndn dino?
[12:46] {shorty} please
[12:47] {dino} .01+
[12:47] {shorty} ty
[12:47] {dino} need mkt help tho
[12:47] {shorty} ya.  I got in at .78 12:44.50
[12:48] {shorty} I keep forgeting to call it.
[12:48] {shorty} I am hoping for .20
[12:48] {Les} nice trendline holding spy up
[12:48] {nemo} cci interesting chart
[12:53] {Les} missed the .80 recross on dndn. the longs in this room sowing doubt in my mind...
[12:53] {dino} no good stopped -.27
[12:54] {shorty} me too
[12:57] {dino} taking a break on it
[12:57] {dino} better worlds
[12:57] {dino} ma up, v down
[12:59] {dino} ups
[12:59] {Threei}  Man Arrested after Wife Writes to Obama Asking for Help
[12:59] {larisa} lol
[12:59] {Les} wow
[13:00] {Les} gonna write dndn s .40 stop .60
[13:00] {dino} unbelievable
[13:00] {Les} already 1:1
[13:00] {Les} covered +.15
[13:00] {Threei}  http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/21/new.york.obama.letter.immigration/
[13:00] {dino} nice
[13:01] {Threei}  *(US) TREASURY'S $40B 2-YEAR NOTE AUCTION DRAWS 0.738%; BID-TO-COVER RATIO: 3.45 V 2.93 PRIOR AND 3.10 AVG OVER LAST 10 AUCTIONS
[13:02] {Les} crazy stuff US immigration policy
[13:02] {nemo} how much indirect bidders take?
[13:03] {Threei}  70.18% allotted at the high
[13:03] {Threei}  - indirect bidders take 41.43% of competitive bids, direct bidders take 21.3%, primary dealers take 37.27%.
[13:03] {Threei}  - median bid 0.72%, low bid 0.647%
[13:03] {nemo} that's pretty good, then again, only 2 yar notes
[13:03] {nemo} year
[13:04] {dino} ups hl l .41
[13:04] {nemo} stronger volume this area on dndn dino
[13:04] {Threei}  White House has confirmed budget director Orszag to leave the Office of Management and Budget; as speculated earlier
[13:04] {nemo} probably sick of dealing with the morons, Or...
[13:05] {nemo} got a cushy job on Wall Street
[13:05] {Threei}  you assume he is any different?
[13:05] {nemo} perhaps...Stockman was under Reagan
[13:05] {Threei}  all I heard from hi was very heavy ideological
[13:05] {Threei}  from him
[13:05] {nemo} good soldier, so why is he leaving?
[13:06] {dino} because budget is out of control
[13:06] {nemo} yep
[13:08] {Threei}  I can't help but draw this parallel, forgive me for a sideways comment
[13:08] {Threei}  during Stalin times, when millions were sent to prisons and camps,
[13:08] {nemo} yep dino got the bottom on dndn
[13:08] {Threei}  a lot of them were true believers
[13:09] {Threei}  and comon refrain among them was:
[13:09] {Threei}  this is some middle level folks that are doing this to us,
[13:09] {Threei}  Stalin doesn't know, they decieve him,
[13:09] {Threei}  if we only find the way to let him know, he will save us.
[13:10] {Threei}  (of course letters by elatives to Stalin led to new arrests).
[13:10] {nemo} wow, cci broke 39
[13:10] {Threei}  Now, read this by that gal who wrote a letter
[13:10] {Threei}  "I feel really confused, I don't understand how something like this is possible. I can't imagine that at the top of the Obama administration that they realize that something like this is happening," Jamieson told CNN.
[13:11] {nemo} shallow end of the gene pool
[13:11] {RonS} they both should be arrested for ugly...
[13:11] {Threei}  well, I wanted to laugh but then looked in the mirror and elected to shut up
[13:11] {RonS} rotfl
[13:12] {nemo} ugly is as ugly does
[13:12] {Threei}  :)
[13:12] {dino} nice nemo dndn
[13:12] {Threei}  EU) Reportedly EU is considering a bond issue levy on member states with high levels of debt - unconfirmed report
[13:12] {Threei}  yup, let's add financial burden on those who are overburdened
[13:16] {Les} apc bad
[13:16] {Les} vad
[13:16] {Threei}  make up your mind, will ya
[13:16] {Les} this pullback below .30 good for a long break?
[13:16] {Les} if holding .20?
[13:16] {Threei}  for a quick scalp only
[13:17] {Les} ok
[13:17] {nemo} spy dropping
[13:17] {Threei}  overall, it's rather "short the bounces" than "buy the pullbacks"
[13:19] {Les} +.05 it is
[13:19] {Les} ty
[13:19] {Threei}  I just typed this:
[13:19] {Threei}  get out Les, IMO
[13:20] {Les} yeh thinking same thing
[13:20] {Les} having 3rd screen is making a difference
[13:20] {Threei}  nornally, I'd say sell into spike over .40
[13:21] {Threei}  but it's not worth the risk here
[13:21] {shorty} AONE Threei?
[13:22] {Threei}  dog with fleas...
[13:22] {shorty} lol
[13:24] {Threei}  US) Reportedly Senate negotiators on finreg bill rebuff effort to increase risk retention rules
[13:25] {Threei} Short Setup: APC  .30 break
[13:25] {Threei}  not a scalp if sets up and works
[13:26] {Threei}  - The current Senate proposal is for banks to retain 5% of risk in securitized assets (i.e. "skin in the game")
[13:26] {Threei}  more they tweak...
[13:27] {Threei}  - Strong Canadian Dollar combined with low productivity and lagging US demand are creating drags on the recovery.
[13:27] {Threei}  yes, horrible drags
[13:27] {Threei}  1:1 APC
[13:27] {Threei}  half out
[13:27] {Threei}  .18
[13:27] {Threei}  stop to .35
[13:29] {Threei}  1:2
[13:29] {shorty} nice ty Threei
[13:29] {Threei}  welcome
[13:30] {Threei}  1/4 more out
[13:30] {dino} gj
[13:30] {Threei}  ty
[13:32] {Threei}  stop for the last piece to b/e
[13:32] {Threei}  want to try and cover into sharp drop after loss of 42
[13:33] {Threei}  FR) France Fin Min Lagarde: May pursue more austerity at upcoming G-20 , will push for banking tax
[13:33] {Threei}  have they all lost their collective mind?
[13:33] {Threei}  what in the world that idiotic tax is supposed to achieve?
[13:34] {Threei}  if they are so eager to tax the greed, reckless behavior and disregard for econmic realities, why don't they tax themselves?
[13:35] {Threei}  Govt announced new tax on governmental activites
[13:35] {Threei}  when I see that, I'll believe in their sincere desire to tax the stupidity
[13:38] {dino} the way i see it 3i, is when half the people don't pay taxes, then govt can tax what itwants. plus when you have half not paying, you have effectively dumbed down the voters, hence they think these taxes are good. as for the politicians, they simply want that half of the voters, the ones not paying. bottom line, system is broken
[13:39] {Threei}  it so is...
[13:39] {Threei}  I no longer think it's fixable
[13:39] {Threei}  it's beyond repair
[13:40] {Threei}  and when I think what the only thing was that pulled US out of Great Depression and project this to today, I shudder
[13:40] {Threei}  wow
[13:40] {Threei}  must be news
[13:41] {Threei}  * JUDGE RULES AGAINST OBAMA MORATORIUM ON DEEPWATER DRILLING
[13:41] {Threei}  yes
[13:41] {Threei}  RIG too
[13:41] {dino} good
[13:41] {dino} oih spiked
[13:41] {Threei}  and even BP
[13:41] {dino} oii too
[13:42] {dino} slb hl l .70
[13:42] {Threei}  Reminder: HOS had filed suit against the Federal Govt's 6 month moratorium on deepwater drilling, which had been supported by the state of Louisiana, as they cited possible catastrope
[13:44] {Les} wow apc
[13:44] {shorty} Good thing I took profit
[13:44] {Threei}  last part was protected by b/e
[13:44] {shorty} right
[13:47] {RonS} hal pullback
[13:48] {Threei}  .45 long APC
[13:49] {Threei}  stop under .30
[13:50] {RonS} White House to appeal.
[13:50] {Threei}  sigh
[13:50] {Threei}  White House press secretary: to appeal Federal District Court judge's ruling to lift the moratorium on deepwater drilling in the Gulf
[13:51] {dino} out slb .-/o3
[13:51] {RonS} ...this guy is really bad...
[13:51] {Les} he likes to control...
[13:52] {RonS} he can't even control his wife...let alone his mouth
[13:54] {RonS} 1 million jobs...what is that 3 million people hurt by his idiocy?  sickening
[13:54] {dino} well he likes to destroy stuff, healthcare, banks, autos, and now oil
[13:59] {dino} slb l .50
[14:00] {dino} out .58, +.08
[14:00] {nemo} not waiting around, huh?
[14:00] {dino} no
[14:01] {RonS} dino channels ese...
[14:01] {dino} atpg, do may be better
[14:01] {dino} mkt drop
[14:02] {RonS} DRILLERS-- THE REASON THEY ARE SELLING OFF.........DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE JUDGE LIFTED THE BAN.........DRILLERS STILL MUST GET A PERMIT FROM THE MMS ( MINERALS MGT SERVICE )....... THE MMS IS A GOVT AGENCY AND IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THE DRILLERS WILL GET NEW PERMITS............THE ONLY DRILLING THAT COULD BEGIN ARE WHERE A DRILLER ALREADY HAS A PERMIT.
[14:02] {RonS} ...sorry about the caps...
[14:03] {RonS} great quote:  all they need to do is show Barry how to play golf off a rig...
[14:04] {dino} lol
[14:04] {Threei}  I swear APC is going to lose 42'
[14:04] {dino} hl slb l .25
[14:05] {Threei}  AONE Pacific Crest Raised AONE to Outperform from Sector Perform, price target: $12
[14:05] {Les} been shorting slb from .50 after dino jumped ship
[14:06] {dino} out .47, +.22
[14:06] {dino} .25-.55 ranging
[14:06] {Les} last quarter stopped b/e
[14:06] {Les} yeh too fast to post. half cover .40 quarter .30 1:3 missed by .02
[14:06] {dino} atpg about .95 to .09
[14:07] {Threei} Short Setup: APC  .05 break
[14:07] {dino} do dk
[14:07] {Threei}  invalidated above .20
[14:07] {dino} below announcement
[14:08] {dino} brb
[14:11] {Les} fad if invalidated?
[14:11] {Les} fade
[14:11] {Threei}  no idea
[14:14] {dino} now slb goes
[14:15] {dino} hl s slb .70
[14:17] {Threei}  APC...
[14:18] {Threei}  grrr
[14:18] {dino} cov slb .36 rigs idled on the ban
[14:18] {Les} I took it
[14:18] {dino} cov nope, typo
[14:18] {Les} failed on the long side
[14:19] {dino} 36 rigs idle
[14:19] {dino} break .50
[14:19] {Les} covered half .86 +.18, 1/4 .76, last quarter aiming for .66
[14:20] {Les} done all out
[14:21] {dino} good girl, cov slb .40, +.30
[14:21] {dino} do lod
[14:21] {nemo} nice Leslie
[14:21] {Les} no worries mark
[14:21] {nemo} list
[14:22] {Les} let me check my inbox. what's the family name?
[14:22] {Les} something foreign...
[14:22] {Les} I obviously need to write a letter to the president
[14:22] {nemo} noticed it ends in a vowel, and what country is just south of you with a very nice, shall we say, underground organization
[14:23] {Les} send me a recommendation. would love to catch up on your family this summer :)
[14:23] {Threei}  after doing that Les, every time you hear knock on the door come out with your arms stretched forward
[14:23] {nemo} have to go to sicily
[14:24] {Threei}  APC... why oh why did you have to invalidate my entry
[14:24] {Les} I reestablished trade vad when APC didn't follow thru on longside when market was bouncing. dunno if that's valid or not?
[14:25] {Threei}  it dropped into trigger in one 20 cents swoop move
[14:25] {Threei}  no way I'd take such entry
[14:25] {Les} ok
[14:26] {Threei}  it may seem brilliant in this particular case
[14:26] {Threei}  in real trading stats, this kind of entries will kill you
[14:28] {dino} dndn nemo?
[14:29] {nemo} I think it tops out at .60 at most
[14:29] {nemo} but I have no solid read on it
[14:30] {dino} do hl l .00
[14:35] {dino} do out .25, +.25
[14:35] {RonS} gj dino
[14:35] {dino} toughie
[14:35] {RonS} no kidding
[14:35] {dino} lol
[14:43] {nemo} dndn touched .60 and backed off
[14:48] {RonS} US) Mineral Management Service (MMS): Deepwater drilling companies must meet new safety rules before provided authorization to resume operations
[14:51] {Les} lvs .30 b/d?
[14:52] {Threei}  one more bounce first desirably
[14:52] {Threei}  to reinforce resistance vs double bottom bounce
[14:52] {Threei}  ideally, topping uner .40, better yet .35
[14:53] {dino} gut says this move is headfake
[14:53] {Threei}  down move you mean?
[14:53] {dino} no up, but so far wrong
[14:54] {Threei}  we are testing 110
[14:54] {Threei}  which is significant support
[14:55] {dino} anat sm l .94 thin, wide ,risky
[14:55] {dino} itri sm l .03
[14:57] {Les} got a read on HAL vad?
[14:57] {Threei}  26 break short or .10 long...
[14:58] {Les} ok ty
[14:59] {dino} should not come into play today, but first gaps 6/14 at 10190, 1845, 1089; then 6/9 at 9899, 1778, 1055
[15:04] {dino} your .60 wall holds dndn nemo
[15:05] {nemo} voices in my head
[15:06] {dino} me too
[15:06] {nemo} they keep saying "Kill Les"  "Kill Les"
[15:06] {dino} mine keep me up at night
[15:06] {Les} This is not a trading room... you are entering "the twilight zone"
[15:06] {Les} FRIKIN DIE HAL
06[15:09] * Threei puts a grenade in HAL's pocket
[15:10] {Les} ooh you brought back memory of grenade disaster at infantry training
[15:10] {Les} wasn't nice
[15:10] {Les} and no nemo I don't have a colostomy bag
[15:10] {nemo} it obviously wasn't enough of a disaster
[15:11] {Les} not for me anyway
[15:11] {Les} 1:1 hal half out
[15:11] {nemo} dead is good.  1/2 dead...not good
[15:11] {Threei}  1:1
[15:11] {Les} tore the young digger in half
[15:11] {nemo} dead is good
[15:11] {shorty} wow
[15:12] {Les} like this mining tycoon dead in cameroon
[15:12] {Les} $1B personal fortune
[15:12] {Les} poof all gone
[15:13] {Les} you think you're at the top of your game...
[15:14] {Les} 110 is proving decent support
[15:14] {dino} .60 gone
[15:15] {nemo} I was just thinking it might break it
[15:15] {dino} hammer to ice
[15:17] {Les} 2nd half stopped flat
[15:18] {Les} big vol m oving in HAL
[15:20] {shorty} would l .10 still be in play for HAL Threei?
[15:21] {Threei}  nah
[15:21] {Threei}  unless it pulls back,
[15:21] {Threei}  holds above 26
[15:21] {Threei}  then breaks
[15:21] {shorty} ok
[15:24] {nemo} I'm off c u 2morow
[15:24] {Les} ciao
[15:25] {larisa} bye nemo
[15:25] {dino} cya
[15:25] {RonS} cya nemo
[15:25] {Threei}  take care nemo
[15:31] {shorty} d/b HAL?
[15:32] {Threei}  only is market reverses
[15:38] {dino} plcm drop
[15:39] {Threei}  US) Senator Dodd (D-CT): Sees a "tighter" version of the Volcker Rule, along the lines of proposals by senators Merkley and Levin
[15:43] {Threei}  - Earlier in the process, Merkley and Levin proposed an amendment that would create a statutory ban on proprietary trading instead of leaving it up to regulators to set rules on prop trading. Their amendment failed in the Senate.
[15:44] {Threei}  idiots with their tweaking
[15:48] {RonS} good night to you all  :)
[15:49] {dptl} have a good evening all
[15:49] {Threei}  take care ron, dp
[15:50] {dino} cya ron, dp
[15:50] {dino} dji -2.9% since yesterdday hod
[15:51] {shorty} Cya tomorrow guys.
[15:51] {Threei}  take care shorty
[15:51] {dino} 3.2% s/p, 3% ndx
[15:51] {dino} cya shorty
[15:51] {shorty} :)
[15:52] {dino} going for lod
[15:59] {dino} stopped itri -.40
[16:01] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
[16:01] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[16:02] {dino} thx all, good time

Monday, June 21, 2010

Jun 21 2010

Steady and profitable day, as market hasn't stalled after the gap, and opportunities were around on both sides. No good educational chart though - LVS long in the morning and MON short closer to end of day (15:07) were as close as possible but kind of way too standard setups, I've shown this kind quite a few times already.


Session Time: Mon Jun 21 00:00:00 2010
[08:18] {hawk} good morning
[08:19] {Threei}  good morning
[08:19] {Threei}  another big gap eh
[08:19] {hawk} vad :)
[08:19] {hawk} of course
[08:19] {Threei}  (US) Meredith Whitney: Sees rough second half of 2010, state governments are cutting spending and raising taxes, making it difficult for recovery to move forward - CNBC
[08:19] {Threei}  - Sees retail spending starting to fade.
[08:19] {Threei}  - Expects banks to accelerate foreclosure programs.
[08:19] {Threei}  - Sees "unequivocal double dip" in US housing market.
[08:19] {Threei}  - Banks are not lending, sees large cuts in credit card lending.
[08:19] {Threei}  - Bank revenue will be disappointing in Q2.
[08:19] {Threei}  ***Note: Whitney has been bearish on the US economic recovery for most of 2010; no change is seen in her position in today's remarks
[08:20] {Threei}  (EU) ECB's Wellink: ECB will continue purchasing govt bonds as long as necessary; austerity measures could impact growth in the short-term but are a positive factor in the long run
[08:20] {Threei}  - Spain needs more measures to prevent further problems.
[08:20] {Threei}  - Greece on track with their austerity program
[08:20] {Threei}  - Bank stress test analysis to include "what if" analysis and include sovereign scenarios.
[08:21] {Threei}  - Reiterates that current interest rate environment is appropriate; inflation risks are balanced and well anchored.
[08:21] {Threei}  - In general believes naked short-selling should be allowed.
[08:21] {Threei}  include sovereign scenarios?
[08:22] {hawk} got me
[08:22] {Threei}  on a surface sounds like allowing for the union restructuring
[08:22] {Threei}  as in, countries leaving in
[08:25] {Threei}  Former Bank of England member Blanchflower commented today that a UK double dip recession is 'absolutely certain'
[08:25] {Threei}  for a seconf I thought, wow, someone is telling the truth? Then saw he is "former"
[08:26] {hawk} :)
[08:26] {Threei}  - Preposition ahead of the Jun 26th-27th G20 Summit in Canada; USD reserve status back on the table via BRIC members
[08:26] {Threei}  - China signals end to currency peg ahead of G20.
[08:26] {Threei}  - China keeps CNY rate unchanged against the USD in session surprising markets after announcing it was unhitching the peg.
[08:27] {Threei}  - ECB's Trichet: Reiterates view that Euro is a very credible currency
[08:27] {Threei}  ig it is, why the need to "reiterate"
[08:27] {Threei}  - Spot Gold hits fresh all-time highs above $1,265/oz
[08:32] {Threei}  CPST Announces Launch of Carb Emissions Certified Product to Operate in Hybrid Electric Vehicles (1.00, 0.00, 0.00%)
[08:35] {nemo} somebody call Dino and tell him to take the day off
[08:35] {Threei}  call me too while at it
[08:35] {nemo} GAP up day...yahoo
[08:44] {dptl} good morning
[08:44] {Les} afternoon all
[08:44] {Threei}  dp, les :)
[08:47] {nemo} gentlemen, Les
[08:48] {Les} savage is as savage knows
[08:48] {nemo} ?
[08:48] {nemo} bastardizing a classic movie line like that
[08:49] {Les} well I thought about saying stupid, then I remembered the list
[08:49] {Threei}  knows = does?
[08:49] {nemo} don't worry about it Les, you're on it in permanent ink, and your rank is rising
[08:50] {nemo} Actually, calling me savage is a complement
[08:50] {Les} http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=392986
[08:50] {Les} I'm not even sure what classic you are referring to Nemo
[08:50] {nemo} Forrest Gump
[09:04] {dino} gm all
[09:04] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:04] {nemo} go home Dino
[09:05] {dino} lol, i saw that above nemo, you are probably right
[09:06] {nemo} better yet...go to your sister's pub
[09:07] {dino} too early
[09:07] {nemo} never
[09:08] {Les} yeh a little Irish coffee can go a long way to filling a gap up day
[09:09] {ese} good morning
[09:09] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:10] {dino} these gaps below will most likely fill at some point in time
[09:12] {Threei}  this whole thing with yuan adds a whole lot of uncertainty
[09:13] {nemo} yes, and at some point we're all dead :)
[09:13] {Threei}  nemo, ever the optimist
[09:14] {shorty} good morning
[09:15] {Threei}  shorty :)
[09:15] {nemo} hey shortstuff
[09:15] {shorty} :)
[09:19] {larisa} gm :)
[09:19] {Threei}  larisa :)
[09:20] {RonS} gm all...how long untile people realize this is a Chinese feint?
[09:20] {ese} the Irish win the US open dino
[09:20] {lasertrev} good morning
[09:20] {Threei}  the implications of yuan un-pegging fro USD are so wide and deep, I don't even know ehere to begin
[09:20] {Threei}  ron, trev :)
[09:20] {ese} morning LT
[09:21] {nemo} at the beginning?
[09:21] {nemo} Lari :)
[09:21] {Threei}  on top of that, there is a lot of uncertainty about mechanisms and time frame
[09:21] {nemo} may just be alot of talk ahead of the G20 meeting
[09:22] {dino} saw it es
[09:23] {ese} yup me too
[09:24] {ese} really enjoyed these guys coughing it up all over the course.......Pebble eat em up nicely
[09:24] {ese} beat em up
[09:25] {Threei}  APC BP preparing to sue company for its share of Gulf of Mexico cleanup costs - Telegraph
[09:25] {Threei}  - Anadarko has a 25% stake in the well, but does not intend to pay
[09:25] {Threei}  British Petroleum plc Site of the ruptured well in the Gulf of Mexico may contain as much as 1B barrels - Times
[09:25] {Threei}  - Report citing Energy Security Analysis analyst Rick Mueller.
[09:25] {Threei}  - Company said to have estimated that the field contains only about 50-100M barrels.
[09:25] {Threei}  - A separate Guardian report citing University of Alabama professor Johnson suggest oil may continue leaking for 2 years, but spill rate may decline.
[09:26] {Threei}  British Petroleum plc To raise as much as $50B over the next two years to meet the costs of oil spill - Times
[09:26] {Threei}  - $10B to come from a debt offering, $20B from banks, and $20B from asset sales.
[09:27] {ese} was pulling for Mickelson though dino
[09:27] {Threei}  will try to stay on a conservative side, not to fight this "big gap up" curse
[09:28] {magoo} morn
[09:28] {Threei}  mags :)
[09:28] {RonS} man bites dog:  Russia eliminates long term capital gains tax
[09:30] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .50 break if stays above .35
[09:31] {dino} affy
[09:31] {Threei}  if sets up from here, scalpers can use .40 as support
[09:31] {Les} shorted apc .70 very small shares
[09:32] {Threei}  EUR/USD UBS analyst: Continue to see downside potential for Euro through end 2010
[09:32] {Threei}  RIMM sharp drop
[09:32] {nemo} yeah
[09:32] {nemo} rig too
[09:32] {Les} aig big spike
[09:33] {nemo} look what bidu did on the open
[09:35] {Threei}  RIMM
[09:35] {Threei}  retests the low
[09:35] {Threei}  see if double bottom plays oput
[09:35] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  .60 break half lot
[09:35] {Threei}  if holding .50
[09:36] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:36] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:36] {nemo} bottom hunt?
[09:36] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:36] {Threei}  LVS is about to trigger
[09:36] {jfjf64} y
[09:36] {Threei}  huge offers
[09:36] {nemo} big offer .50
[09:37] {nemo} yeah, huge
[09:37] {Threei} Long Setup:  ARUN  .70 break
[09:37] {Threei}  half lot
[09:38] {ese} lvs just doesn't want to break the .50 barrier
[09:38] {nemo} spy looks weak
[09:38] {Threei}  if holding above .60
[09:39] {Threei}  (EU) Fitch reiterates that breakup of Euro Zone over the short to medium term remains low
[09:39] {Threei}  ***Reminder: On March 9th: Fitch stated that it was unlikely to see a country leave the Euro Zone
[09:40] {nemo} lvs rinsed...well on an invalidation
[09:41] {Threei}  hmm?
[09:41] {ese} in lvs .55
[09:41] {ese} caught me off guard
[09:41] {jfjf64} x  lots  strength
[09:42] {Threei}  APC Hearing JP Morgan makes positive comments (timing uncertain) (42.33, -0.24, -0.56%)
[09:43] {nemo} whoa rimm spit the bit
[09:44] {nemo} watching for db on rimm, or consolidation
[09:44] {jfjf64} chk vad   thinkin  .44 break
[09:44] {dino} apc cut to junk, cnbc
[09:45] {Threei}  if holdong .35, jf
[09:45] {jfjf64} y
[09:46] {jfjf64} need  higher  lows
[09:46] {jfjf64} nope
[09:46] {nemo} rimm at friday's close
[09:46] {Threei}  market not finding support so far
[09:46] {ese} lvs stopped -.15
[09:47] {ese} -.10
[09:48] {ese} played that badly   should have been in .51 out .60
[09:48] {nemo} yeah, you're the definition of "scalper"
[09:49] {Threei}  LVS 1:1, half out
[09:50] {nemo} what was the call?
[09:50] {Threei}  stop to .45
[09:50] {Threei}  ???
[09:50] {Threei}  [09:30] {Threei} Long Setup: LVS .50 break if stays above .35
[09:50] {nemo} ahh...35
[09:50] {nemo} rimm did db
[09:51] {Les} s gg .48 stop above .60
[09:53] {Les} gg stopped
[09:56] {Les} gg was a rinse
[09:58] {Threei} Long Setup:  GLD  .80 break halkf lot
[09:58] {Threei}  stop under .70
[09:58] {Threei}  not a scalp
[09:59] {Threei}  LVS stop for the balance to b/e
[09:59] {ese} L ctrp .45
[10:01] {dino} affy hl l .25
[10:01] {ese} 1/2 lot by the way spread too big
[10:02] {nemo} only 10k shares, huh?
[10:02] {Threei}  AFFY UPDATE: RBC Cuts AFFY to Underperform from Outperform, price target: $3
[10:02] {Threei}  that's some target
[10:02] {ese} ha ha ...ha ha
[10:03] {Threei}  GLD no go
[10:03] {dino} cstr hl l .00
[10:04] {ese} out ctrp .69 +.24
[10:05] {dino} gj
[10:05] {ese} tks
[10:05] {Threei}  MON US Supreme Court overturns ruling limiting sale of genetically modified alfalfa seeds until environmental review (34.35, -0.50, -1.43%) (related ADM )
[10:06] {ese} no partialling on that one.....too big a spread
[10:06] {nemo} rig, can you say volatility
[10:06] {nemo} gld rinse
[10:07] {Threei}  yeah
[10:07] {ese} L stld .59
[10:07] {Threei}  by 1 cent
[10:07] {Threei}  sheesh
[10:08] {nemo} yeah, and it never went below .69, see that candle at 9:51
[10:09] {ese} out stld .64 +.05
[10:11] {Threei}  APC...
[10:11] {Threei}  43 break looks tempting
[10:12] {Threei}  volatility is a concern
[10:12] {ese} yup
[10:13] {ese} does look tempting though
[10:13] {nemo} feels like lunchtime already
[10:13] {jfjf64} y
[10:13] {jfjf64} e
[10:13] {jfjf64} s
[10:14] {ese} l bidu .00
[10:14] {ese} sm
[10:14] {ese} out .14
[10:15] {ese} whoaaa +.14
[10:15] {jfjf64} aa
[10:15] {ese} never played tha one before.....damn it's crazy
[10:15] {jfjf64} .95  break
[10:15] {Threei}  be double careful with it ese
[10:15] {Threei}  look at its level 2
[10:15] {ese} it's off my hit list already
[10:16] {ese} to volitile for me
[10:16] {Threei}  thin like bulymic supermodel
[10:16] {ese} looked normal for a bit then crazy
[10:16] {ese} no skill there for sure....bull chit luck
[10:17] {nemo} probably goes to .75
[10:17] {shorty} The transcanada hwy east of here.  About 3 hrs of Calgary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLQOZvAS1yk&feature=player_embedded
[10:18] {Threei}  whoa
[10:18] {ese} is that the trans canada around maple creek
[10:18] {ese} sorry ....you said trans canada
[10:19] {shorty} yup
[10:19] {ese} wow
[10:19] {shorty} Heard it will be shut down all summer now.
[10:19] {nemo} RIG either triple bottom or IC&H
[10:20] {shorty} Am I the only one holding ARUN?
[10:20] {Threei}  no
[10:21] {Threei}  if anyone went for APC, feel free to get out here
[10:22] {Threei}  LVS 1:2, 1/4 more out
[10:22] {Threei}  stop to under .60
[10:22] {shorty} C'mon ARUN, I need to take the kids out before the rain starts again and the flooding continues.
[10:22] {ese} didn't do it but nice call vad
[10:22] {Threei}  lol
[10:22] {Threei}  ty ese
[10:22] {Threei}  I have my moments
[10:23] {Threei}  shorty, ARUN becomes discretionary here
[10:23] {shorty} ok..ty
[10:23] {Threei}  time drags out into inactive period
[10:23] {Threei}  hard to tell whetrher it's just biding its time
[10:23] {Threei}  or just lost will to live
[10:23] {nemo} rig was a triple bottom
[10:24] {nemo} see BIDU ese, heading towards .75
[10:24] {Threei}  LVS, last part is in no lose, territory, worts case scenario you take 10 cents profit on it,
[10:24] {Threei}  so, the choice is to offer it just above 28
[10:25] {Threei}  or trail it as it moves
[10:25] {Threei}  will see and comment as it goes
[10:25] {nemo} X inverse C&H?
[10:25] {Threei}  probably
[10:25] {jfjf64} was lvs a call
[10:25] {Threei}  just keep it half lot
[10:26] {Threei}  jf... you asleep or what?
[10:26] {Threei}  that was first call of the day, .50
[10:26] {jfjf64} lol
[10:26] {dino} out cstr .25, +.25
[10:26] {jfjf64} got  it  ty
[10:26] {Threei}  went up 30 cents, we partialled twice - now you ask whether there was a call?
[10:26] {Threei}  let me out of here, lol
[10:27] {Threei}  wow, APC still goes
[10:29] {Threei}  AFFY...
[10:29] {Threei}  this thing starts looking like breakdown
[10:29] {nemo} RIMM two way?
[10:29] {nemo} .80 break, .70 breakdown
[10:29] {nemo} ?
[10:29] {Threei} Short Setup: AFFY  .10 break
[10:30] {Threei}  probably, RIMM
[10:30] {Threei}  with slight preference to short side
[10:30] {Threei}  LNET Announces Technology Licensing Agreement With Panasonic (4.87, +0.07, 1.46%)
[10:31] {Threei}  (GE) Germany Min: Recent austerity plans do not negatively impact growth incentives
[10:31] {Threei}  - Germany Chancellor Merkel: Increasing debt is not a good policy, austerity programs are not 'radical'
[10:31] {Threei}  " Increasing debt is not a good policy"?
[10:32] {Threei}  come on Angela
[10:32] {nemo} radical for a political career :)
[10:32] {Threei}  get with the program
[10:32] {Threei}  AFFY defined stop level for the setup
[10:32] {nemo} rimm playing both ways :)
[10:33] {Threei}  above .25 will be invalidated
[10:33] {RonS} crus 'n south
[10:34] {Threei}  RMBS Ticking higher on chatter company has hired an investment bank to evaluate offers from Samsung (19.45, +0.51, 2.69%) (related 005930.KS )
[10:34] {Threei}  RIMM 1:1
[10:34] {Threei}  (EU) ECB's Trichet: Inflation expectations are not rising, recovery is continuing
[10:35] {Threei}  repeat after me
[10:35] {Threei}  recovery is continuing
[10:35] {Threei}  recovery is continuing
[10:35] {Threei}  recovery is continuing
[10:35] {RonS} lol
[10:35] {Threei}  Euro is sound
[10:35] {Threei}  Euro is sound
[10:35] {Threei}  Euro is sound
[10:35] {RonS} the check is in the mail
[10:36] {Les} he's been reading og mandino's little book
[10:36] {nemo} Taxes won't go up
[10:36] {nemo} I promise, I won't...
[10:36] {Threei}  no, since I don't want to be seen as discriminating against across the pond, let's move over to this side, and repeat three times: recovery is fragile, we need new stimulus
[10:38] {RonS} i must play golf
[10:38] {RonS} i must play golf
[10:38] {RonS} i must play golf
[10:40] {jfjf64} aa
[10:40] {jfjf64} gettin ready
[10:40] {dino} i like rons' idea
[10:41] {jfjf64} 5 min chart
[10:42] {nemo} rimm hit 1:2
[10:48] {Threei}  AA really holds well
[10:48] {jfjf64} y
[10:48] {jfjf64} feel  lk  im  waitin  4  da KILL
[10:49] {jfjf64} camo on
[10:49] {jfjf64} locked
[10:49] {jfjf64} and  ready
[10:49] {shorty} darn out AFFY .03, then it tanks
[10:50] {Threei}  1:1 AFFY
[10:50] {nemo} rim 1:6
[10:50] {shorty} Have a good day all.  Will see you guys tomorrow.
[10:50] {Threei}  can't tell whether AFFY is a scalp or continuatrion
[10:50] {jfjf64} market  gettin  hit
[10:51] {magoo} continuation imo
[10:51] {Threei}  if partialing, trail stop to above b/e
[10:51] {nemo} amateur hour is over
[10:51] {magoo} mkts losing it here
[10:51] {dino} affy stopped -.26
[10:52] {magoo} i mean, i'm thinking .80 area
[10:54] {jfjf64} rig bounce
[10:56] {Threei} Short Setup: BP  .80 break
[10:56] {Threei}  if stays under .90
[10:56] {nemo} X looks interesting on short side too
[10:59] {magoo} u r in a nice zone vad:)
[10:59] {Threei}  ty... just no serious moves...
[10:59] {Threei}  LVS was the biggest
[11:01] {Les} APC is trying to get break 50ma support. no clear setup
[11:01] {Les} - get
[11:02] {RonS} iflg
[11:02] {RonS} news?
[11:02] {Threei}  IFLG Strength attributed to chatter of expanded collaboration with SAP (6.45, +0.53, 8.95%)
[11:05] {Threei}  AA
[11:05] {Threei}  held nicely and may be prepares foa break
[11:05] {Threei}  (CA) Canada PM: Hopes China's currency move eases pressure on CAD, sees "significant" benefits for Canada from China's move (related USD/CAD EUR/CAD EWC )
[11:06] {Threei}  - Insists that Canada will continue to press China on FX policy
[11:07] {Threei}  OK, I understand everyone wants tgo be a seller into China market... but did anyone evaluate the impact on the import prices if yuan doubles?
[11:07] {nemo} I thought about it often
[11:07] {RonS} ...and early?
[11:08] {Threei}  it feels to me like a push for the mother of all inflations
[11:08] {RonS} ...perfect for the debt mongers
[11:08] {nemo} also might force some jobs back to the west
[11:08] {Threei}  only if there are buyers for their production at trhe western prices
[11:09] {nemo} duh
[11:09] {Threei}  is walmart vuyer ready to buy at boutique prices?
[11:09] {RonS} ...force them to the next fish heads and rice market
[11:09] {Threei}  or chinese buyer - at the prices produced by union slaries and benefits?
[11:10] {RonS} ...bagladesh...myanmar...
[11:10] {Les} north korea Ron?
[11:10] {RonS} lol
[11:10] {RonS} mongolia
[11:11] {Les} i believe kyrgyztan is open for slave labour manufacturing
[11:12] {Les} just beginning to catch up on what is happening there:
[11:12] {Les} http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,701822,00.html
[11:12] {RonS} ...read where the drill moratorium shucks 300,000 primary (direct) jobs and 1 million+ total
[11:14] {dino} i think at this point you are over thinking the yaun policy, a 3% range starting a year from now is not much, if it happens at all
[11:14] {nemo} the yawn policy?
[11:14] {Threei}  of course not
[11:14] {dino} chinese yuan?
[11:15] {Threei}  I am talking about this push for full unpeg
[11:15] {nemo} aa vad
[11:15] {dino} won't happen
[11:15] {RonS} exactly...they are just trying to buy some time from the protectionists
[11:15] {dino} yes and make obama look tough for upcoming elections
[11:17] {magoo} cnbc ragging thhat BP ceo went on yachting race
[11:17] {ese} L ntes .10
[11:17] {Threei}  yeah mags
[11:17] {magoo} reminds me of auto makers private jet scandal
[11:17] {Threei}  as if it makes any difference
[11:17] {Threei}  or has any significance, other than useless optics
[11:18] {magoo} thats what i mean
[11:18] {Threei}  but who cares abourt substance these days
[11:18] {magoo} so what
[11:18] {Les} it's absolutely disgusting
[11:18] {nemo} AA broke
[11:18] {Threei}  it's not like he must dive personally mile deep and plug the leak with his shirt
[11:18] {nemo} on volume too
[11:18] {Les} the CEO should have been grovelling on capitol hill
[11:18] {Les} or yes, plugging the leak with his yacht
[11:19] {Les} junk shot
[11:19] {dino} think about bp, or any other major company, of course the ceo doesn't know all and make all decisions
[11:20] {Threei}  - China's announcement that it plans to gradually let the yuan appreciate is the story this morning. US equity markets are up modestly on the news, following in the wake of strength seen on Shanghai and European indices. The PBOC said the yuan's trading band would remain in effect, and FX analysts are waiting to see how much the yuan is allowed to move over the next several day to see whether China's announcement will turn out to be more than a token gesture
[11:20] {dino} v hl l .00
[11:21] {Threei}  along the same lines mags, pone of the most important things he is blamed with is the unfortunate remark "I want my life back"
[11:21] {Threei}  talk about safety record and measures, what do you care about his insensitivity
[11:22] {Threei}  AA 1:1
[11:22] {dino} well, who wouldn't, lol
[11:22] {Threei}  62% Say Politicians Want Government to Have More Power and Money
[11:22] {Threei}  and the rest 38% never came out of coma started at borth I guess
[11:22] {Threei}  birth
[11:23] {Threei}  oh god
[11:24] {Threei}  I looked in TV erroneously, and the image will render me impaired in many ways for weeks
[11:24] {Threei}  "condom with teeth" was what CNN discussed
[11:25] {Threei}  sorry girls... my vivid imagination is my enemy in this case
[11:25] {hawk} lol
[11:26] {Threei}  they promised more on that after commercial... hurrying up and throwing TV out the window
[11:26] {hawk} www.teethmovie.com/
[11:26] {magoo} [11:25] {&Threei}  "condom with teeth" was what CNN discussed
[11:26] {magoo} what the hell does that mean?
[11:27] {Threei}  something for women to protect against rape
[11:27] {Threei}  may I not learn the details pls, I may need a serious rehabilitation
[11:27] {magoo} how about a return to chastity belts then he he
[11:27] {nemo} RIG C&H, a bit wide though
[11:28] {nemo} fcx interesting
[11:28] {Threei}  47% Blame Bush for Nation's Economic Problems, 45% Blame Obama
[11:29] {Threei}  gap is closing... but Clinton is still safe
[11:29] {magoo} i blame jimmy
[11:29] {magoo} cartee lol
[11:29] {magoo} carter
[11:29] {Les} nice end to the C&H nemo on RIG. good b/o
[11:29] {RonS} 1% blame the 99% who are idiots
[11:30] {magoo} rimms ready
[11:31] {ese} out even ntes .10   goin nowhere fast
[11:41] {Threei}  looking at LVS setup on .70 break 10 min ago, I realize that the only reason I haven't called it was, I was hesitant to look LVS-obsesed
[11:43] {ese} L sanm ..40
[11:43] {Threei}  EU) UK PM Cameron: UK has no plans to offer more financial support for the Euro Zone
[11:43] {Threei}  - The next EU budget needs to be frozen or reduced.
[11:43] {Threei}  - Notes his strong support for Turkey EU membership.
[11:44] {Threei}  {Turkey} keep it
[11:44] {ese} .39 and change basically
[11:46] {Threei}  CA) Canada Fin Min Flaherty confirms nations including Russia are purchasing C$
[11:47] {Threei}  great... CNN continues to traumatize me...
[11:47] {Threei}  turns out, I can adopt a pelican
[11:47] {RonS} lol
[11:47] {RonS} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHyuZbwk4bQ
[11:48] {Threei}  no
[11:48] {Threei}  mental image is enough
[11:48] {Threei}  I can see this thing crapping all around my house and demanding allowance
[11:49] {RonS} ...demanding baby to deliver...
[11:50] {RonS} RIMM shot short?
[11:50] {Threei}  hard to tell
[11:50] {Threei}  50/50
[11:50] {Threei}  LVS dtarts looking like bounce candidate
[11:51] {Threei}  most likely from under .60
[11:57] {dptl} .
[11:57] {dino} ..
[11:57] {nemo} X bouncing at vwap
[11:58] {Threei}  (EU) ECB's Trichet: All non-standard ECB measures are "transitory," reiterates opposition to Eurobond concept
[11:58] {Threei}  - Opposes any joint govt bond guarantee.
[11:58] {Threei}  - Sure that Spain will conduct fully transparent stress testing of banks
[11:58] {dino} v to .64
[11:58] {dino} to .68
[11:58] {bellowsbunch} anyplays?
[11:58] {Threei}  looks to me like just a little bounce on the way down, nemo
[11:59] {Threei}  quite a few
[11:59] {Threei}  no open ones right now though
[11:59] {hawk} nice one dino, got .24 out of it, out way too early, thx
[11:59] {dino} out v .75, +.75
[12:00] {dino} ty hawk
[12:00] {Threei}  beauty
[12:00] {dino} ty
[12:00] {Threei} Short Setup: X  .80 break half lot
[12:05] {dino} mtb
[12:05] {dino} wow
[12:05] {dino} news?
[12:06] {ese} stopped SANM .29 -.10
[12:06] {dino} sm s mtb .90
[12:06] {Threei}  MTB Ticking higher on renewed takeover chatter (94.43, +3.72, 4.10%)
[12:06] {dino} ty
[12:06] {RonS} old but...Banco Santander In Talks With M&T For Potential Deal       06/18 07:23 AM
[12:07] {Threei}  Hearing takeover talks with Santander have been renewed
[12:07] {Les} s x .85 half out .75
[12:07] {dino} cov .10, +.80
[12:07] {dino} mtb
[12:08] {Les} wow you were shorting it
[12:08] {Les} nice one
[12:08] {Threei}  X1:1
[12:08] {dino} s=short
[12:10] {Les} 1/4 more covered .65 x
[12:12] {dino} gj
[12:12] {Threei}  almost 1:2
[12:12] {RonS} dino, cstr....
[12:16] {Threei}  getting this patient partialling out and trailing sruff down, Les, eh
[12:16] {dino} watching it, db coming maybe
[12:17] {dino} market going to fill open gaps imo
[12:17] {nemo} that would be impressive
[12:18] {nemo} then fcx might be setting up a range for a short here, although, it is lunch
[12:22] {dino} ndx close
[12:22] {Les} all out x .65 1:2
[12:22] {Les} 200 ma support coming up fast. maybe bounce here
[12:23] {Les} on X
[12:23] {nemo} fcx 1:1
[12:25] {Les} APC vad
[12:25] {Les} .60 b/d?
[12:25] {Les} holding .70?
[12:28] {Les} invalidimated
[12:28] {Threei}  Les... nah
[12:29] {Threei}  mostly because this hing is niot market driven right now
[12:29] {Threei}  it's in its own world
[12:29] {Threei}  development of the story with BP is a driver
[12:30] {nemo} fcx 1:2
[12:31] {nemo} market may bounce around 112.05
[12:33] {nemo} rig looking short
[12:34] {Threei}  British Petroleum plc US Coast Guard's Allen: Exact Status of wellbore is currently unknown, the current worry about the wellbore can be considered 'generalized'
[12:34] {Threei}  - There are no signs of erosion around the well, the wellhead is 'listed' 10-12 degrees; relief well status is 'ahead of schedule'
[12:34] {Threei}  - Note: Last week Coast Guard commented that hoped the relief well would be completed by the second week of August
[12:34] {Threei}  - Note: On 6/17 the Coast Guard noted that the first relief well drilling was getting closer to the damaged wellbore
[12:41] {Threei}  looks like reversal in cards
[12:41] {Threei}  not huge, but bounce
[12:42] {Threei}  LVS should be scalpable
[12:42] {Threei}  .60 big offer
[12:42] {nemo} whoa
[12:42] {nemo} where'd those just come from
[12:43] {nemo} gone
[12:45] {nemo} you like Bidu break of 77 or not at lunch?
[12:46] {Threei}  I do actually
[12:46] {Threei}  ugh, no chasing
[12:46] {Threei}  let it pull back
[12:47] {nemo} .20 stop though
[12:47] {Threei}  Euro vs US Dollar Moves below 1.2350 (June 18th low) as dealers note a close below there could signal a reversal day
[12:47] {Threei}  - Trades as low as 1.2326
[12:50] {nemo} mos might be a short here
[12:55] {nemo} anybody play mos??
[12:57] {larisa} what you had in mind, pivot break? I see 44 break short, or bounce into res earlier 44.40 om downtrend
[12:57] {nemo} .80 b/d
[12:57] {nemo} it was good for almost 1:2
[12:58] {larisa} thats what i am asking, whats at .80 :)
[12:58] {nemo} on 1 minute and 5 minute chart looked like b/d
[12:59] {nemo} ya, know, I didn't even notice the pivot, just the chart formation in LASER
[12:59] {nemo} spy bounced at 200 ma on 5 minute chart
[13:00] {nemo} around 112.10
[13:01] {RonS} v
[13:01] {RonS} v
[13:01] {nemo} oy vay
[13:01] {nemo} must be news
[13:01] {nemo} legislative related perhaps
[13:04] {Les} yeh
[13:04] {Les} there will be no consumer protection
[13:05] {Threei}  (EU) France and Germany pre-G20 Statement: Call for international agreement for a tax on financial institutions
[13:05] {Threei}  - New rultes on bank capital and liquidity levels should be implemented by 2012.
[13:05] {Threei}  - G20 should ask the FSB to look at the need to reduce reliance on external credit rating agencies by June 2011.
[13:05] {Threei}  - Need more regulation of OTC derivatives, CDS markets.
[13:05] {Threei}  - FSB needs to set up guidelines for financial sector compensation.
[13:05] {Threei}  - Call for bank stress tests to be disclosed, expect the results to be published by the end of July.
[13:08] {RonS} Jackie DeShannon
[13:09] {RonS} What the World Needs Now
[13:10] {Threei}  CH) White House Press Sec: Implementation of China's new CNY policy will be key
[13:12] {Threei}  wow V
[13:14] {dino} bummer v
[13:14] {jfjf64} cof  vad
[13:14] {jfjf64} 44 break
[13:14] {jfjf64} naa
[13:14] {Threei}  I though you golt flu
[13:15] {jfjf64} ??
[13:15] {Threei}  cof...
[13:15] {jfjf64} lol
[13:15] {Threei}  never mind
[13:15] {jfjf64} cof
[13:15] {RonS} ...vad, but first hold you head to the side...
[13:15] {jfjf64} funny
[13:15] {Threei}  actyually could be a nice breaK
[13:16] {Threei}  IF MARKET HELPS ANY
[13:16] {Threei}  House members looking to give exemptions to auto dealer and pawn brokers from consumer protection agency regulation
[13:16] {Threei}  - Want to add payday lenders and private student lenders to the watchdog agency's purview
[13:16] {Threei}  so, it's not full cancellation of agency
[13:17] {Threei}  news has been misread it seems
[13:18] {dino} ups hl l .50
[13:19] {jfjf64} cof pullbk
[13:19] {ese} L sanm.17
[13:20] {jfjf64} rimm
[13:20] {jfjf64} s
[13:20] {jfjf64} c/h
[13:21] {nemo} could be a two way JF
[13:21] {jfjf64} .25 break
[13:21] {nemo} for short and .30 or .35 for long
[13:21] {jfjf64} ??
[13:21] {jfjf64} k
[13:23] {nemo} no volume yet on that
[13:24] {nemo} looks more short now
[13:25] {jfjf64} in
[13:26] {Threei}  (US) Rep Frank (D-MA): Looking to modify Senate debit cap plan; House is looking to retain Senate's proposals for capping interchange fees
[13:26] {Threei}  - House Democrats have agreed with Senate proposal to place financial product regulatory authority inside the Federal Reserve; are looking to place Pay Day and private Student Lenders within scope of consumer watchdog
[13:26] {Threei}  - Dems seek to expand watchdog's regulatory powers to include banks with assets below $10B (note: US Senator dodd highlighted in November that the FinReg would provide power to the consumer protection agency to assess fees on banks with $10B or more in assets).
[13:26] {Threei}  - House Democratic members looking to give exemptions to auto dealer and pawn brokers from consumer protection agency regulation; Want to add payday lenders and private student lenders to the watchdog agency's purview.
[13:26] {Threei}  House Democrats have agreed with Senate proposal to place financial product regulatory authority inside the Federal Reserve
[13:27] {Threei}  that's all we needed to know
[13:27] {nemo} bohica
[13:28] {dino} hl l cstr .24
[13:29] {nemo} see with RIMM jf...what a pain
[13:29] {jfjf64} yup
[13:29] {jfjf64} loved  chart
[13:30] {nemo} yeah, either triple bottom or IC&H, it decided it couldn't decide :)
[13:30] {Threei}  my hesitance to buy V on opullback to 77.15 looks umm... what's the word
[13:30] {nemo} STUPID!!!
[13:30] {nemo} sorry...that was harsh
[13:30] {dino} v and ma rocking
[13:31] {jfjf64} grrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:31] {jfjf64} rimm
[13:31] {nemo} I don't see anything in that announcement that should give the credit card companies solace
[13:31] {dino} axp not following
[13:31] {jfjf64} bas  te  r
[13:31] {nemo} fake right out of our shorts jf
[13:32] {jfjf64} im  angry
[13:32] {nemo} classic buy-the-new-low HFT maneuver
[13:34] {nemo} look at BIDU Vad...bummer
[13:34] {nemo} that was a 1:4
[13:38] {Threei}  US) US Senator Durbin (D-IL): New proposals on interchange fees includes minor changes, including exemption for some prepaid Govt issue cards
[13:38] {Threei}  Govt issue cards?
[13:39] {jfjf64} dont look  rimm
[13:39] {jfjf64} grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:39] {Threei}  Hearing JP Morgan making cautious on new House proposals on interchange fees (timing uncertain)
[13:39] {Threei}  - Notes language seems to indicate that it still includes many measures from the Durbin amendment
[13:39] {dino} cstr stopped -.25
[13:39] {dino} ndx filled
[13:42] {nemo} frickin' rimm
[13:42] {nemo} jf dcc
[13:43] {Threei}  amazing as it is, market is about to go red
[13:43] {nemo} little ways to go yet
[13:45] {dino} gaps are powerful things
[13:45] {Threei}  such big ones as today's are rarely get filled same day though
[13:45] {Threei}  most often they jusy stall at the high
[13:45] {Threei}  maybe retreat a bt
[13:45] {Threei}  but not all the way
[13:48] {dino} i remembe magoo and i shorting the open up gaps like crazy in 2008
[13:49] {Les} did it work?
[13:49] {dino} indeed
[13:49] {Les} of course. market tanking
[13:49] {Threei}  right
[13:49] {dino} 09 not much, '09 was the swingers year imo
[13:50] {Threei}  in 2009 that would have been a disaster
[13:50] {Threei}  they gapped and stalled or climbed further
[13:57] {bellowsbunch} any open trades?
[13:58] {Threei}  unless someone inhaled and held V
[13:58] {Les} $POG crashing. got a read on GLD vad?
[13:59] {Threei}  I'd expect a bounce very soon
[13:59] {Threei}  maybe this double bottom,
[13:59] {Threei}  if not losing .90
[14:00] {Threei}  ok, lost,
[14:00] {Threei}  may set up now as .80 loss and recross
[14:02] {Threei}  ok, if holding .70
[14:04] {Threei}  barely, but still valid
[14:05] {dptl} got to leave.....have a good one see ya tomorrow all
[14:06] {Les} ciao dp
[14:06] {Threei}  take care dp
[14:07] {dino} cya dp
[14:09] {Les} BP here vad. you got a read?
[14:09] {Les} breakdown?
[14:09] {Les} .50
[14:09] {Les} or bounce
[14:09] {Threei}  no idea
[14:11] {Threei}  GLD battle heats up
[14:11] {Threei}  no direction defined yet
[14:11] {Threei}  but market firms
[14:14] {nemo} GLD triggered
[14:17] {Threei}  1:1
[14:17] {Threei}  can I call myself a goldbug now?
[14:18] {Threei}  after profiting from GLD
[14:18] {Les} not unless you've a photo of yourself naked and covered in gold dust
[14:18] {nemo} that hurts
[14:18] {Les} THEN you are a gold bug
[14:19] {Threei}  hmmm... patience claimed once she was a goldbug... I guess we can oput that to test
[14:19] {Les} or swimming in the pool with a brick in each hand
[14:19] {Threei}  you mean some swim differently??
[14:20] {Les} yeh normal people use inflatable mattresses
[14:20] {Threei}  I may have been horribly misinformed when learned to swim in early childhood then...
[14:20] {Les} or in nemo's case, yellow duckies
[14:21] {nemo} wow
[14:21] {jfjf64} vad  cof  bounce
[14:21] {nemo} Vad....Les passed you on the list
[14:22] {Threei}  staying afloat with bricks in my hands and concrete block on the heck was sold as basic skill...
[14:22] {Les} you are son of spetznaz?
[14:22] {Threei}  try father
[14:22] {Threei}  jf... I like it
[14:22] {nemo} gag
[14:23] {Threei}  just need clean reversal in the market
[14:23] {nemo} rimm shit
[14:23] {nemo} break of .40
[14:23] {Threei}  if you grabbed it, stop under 44
[14:23] {nemo} ?
[14:23] {jfjf64} ty
[14:24] {nemo} ahh
[14:24] {jfjf64} .06
[14:25] {bellowsbunch} read on bidu at this point
[14:25] {ese} hmmmmmmm still waitin on sanm
[14:26] {Threei}  BIDU is stronger than the market, will be a breakout play IF market continues recovery
[14:26] {Threei}  what you want to see for a successfyl break is BIDU consolidating closer to .50
[14:26] {Threei}  considering its volatility, say between .30 and .50
[14:27] {nemo} having said that, BIDU is the kinda' stock tht could run right through and keep going
[14:27] {Threei}  volatile one, yes
[14:28] {Les} bp vad. 50 b/d?
[14:28] {Threei}  not delighted
[14:29] {Threei}  .60 break if holdong .50 is more to my liking
[14:29] {Les} long?
[14:30] {Les} fair enough. looks like it could bounce
[14:42] {Les} took apc l .32 out .46 instead of bp.
[14:46] {Les} s affy .52 aggressive .50 b/d stop .60
[14:50] {RonS} v = ^
[14:53] {Les} cover affy +.09 5k
[14:53] {Threei}  wtg
[14:54] {dino} nice\
[14:54] {Les} thanks, but doesn't begin to cover mess I made with apc this morn
[14:57] {Les} what happened to affy anyway?
[14:57] {dino} haven't done much, 6 trades
[14:57] {RonS} is this how you ru-yuan a revaluation?
[14:57] {dino} s/p filled
[14:58] {dino} affy drug ph 3 info
[14:59] {Threei}  quire confusing press-release btw
[15:00] {larisa} but not even attempt to bounce, I guess vad is the only one confused :)
[15:00] {Threei}  okay... I'll take it
[15:00] {Threei}  what else is new
[15:00] {larisa} ty :)
[15:00] {Threei}  but heck... you read it?? :)
[15:01] {larisa} I tried
[15:01] {Threei}  sounds totally upbeat
[15:03] {Threei}  OK
[15:03] {Threei}  last hour
[15:03] {Threei}  time to decide on direction
[15:03] {RonS} "our drug is struggling, but the gila monsters are happy and we went yahting"
[15:03] {Threei}  IMO, down
[15:05] {Threei}  looking for short setups
[15:06] {bellowsbunch} bidu
[15:06] {nemo} maybe...helluva stop though
[15:07] {Threei} Short Setup: MON  .90 break
[15:08] {dino} affy, agree vad, says going to production w/another company
[15:09] {dino} here comes dji fill
[15:09] {Threei}  AFFY Preliminary data shows Phase III trial of Hematide/peginesatide met primary endpoints
[15:09] {Threei}  - Affymax and Takeda have announced preliminary top-line results from the Phase 3 clinical program for the investigational drug
[15:09] {Threei}  The primary efficacy endpoint, the mean change in hemoglobin (Hb) from baseline, in each of the four Phase 3 studies (EMERALD 1, EMERALD 2, PEARL 1 and PEARL 2) met the statistical criteria
[15:09] {Threei}  etc tec
[15:09] {Threei}  etc
[15:10] {dino} heart issues
[15:10] {Les} well price speaks a thousand news releases
[15:10] {Les} price says 'this sux'
[15:10] {Threei}  big time
[15:11] {dino} watch it tomorrow
[15:11] {dino} dji fill
[15:11] {Threei}  SPY red
[15:11] {Threei}  DJI 5 points left
[15:12] {dino} close 10450, lod 10450
[15:13] {Threei}  everything's red
[15:13] {Threei}  that's impressive action
[15:13] {Threei}  I guess yuan is not getting totally free just yet
[15:13] {Threei}  not this week eh
[15:14] {Threei}  BIDU, who unplugged darn thing
[15:16] {bellowsbunch} mon slow
[15:16] {Threei}  market tries to bounce, that keeps MON from further slide
[15:19] {Threei}  MON 1:1
[15:19] {Threei}  faster now
[15:19] {Les} lol heck yeh
[15:19] {Threei}  lol
[15:20] {Threei}  President is criticized for golf outing during oil spill,
[15:20] {Threei}  his team defends him
[15:20] {Threei}  but hey, how about that yacht thing with haywart?
[15:20] {RonS} ...they won money...
[15:20] {Les} he didn't want to be seen yachting with hayward
[15:21] {dino} say what you want, but ndx -1.17% not good imo
[15:21] {Les} why?
[15:22] {dino} because we were up big
[15:22] {dino} 2.5% swing in hours
[15:22] {Threei}  yeah, closing gap of this magnitude wuithin same day, this is rare event
[15:22] {Les} so some ugly action opening tomorrow?
[15:23] {RonS} so, when we gap up and grind higher...you hate it; and when we gap up and reverse lower, it is a prblem...hmmmm.
[15:23] {Les} lol
[15:23] {Threei}  it's not a "problem"
[15:23] {Threei}  it's indication of market weakness
[15:23] {Threei}  you may have noticed we found way more prodfitable trades today than we do on gap and stall days
[15:23] {dino} me, no ron, i just hate gaps, they tend to fill in time
[15:24] {RonS} well...we leave on volatility do we not?
[15:24] {RonS} leave = live
[15:24] {dino} yes
[15:24] {Threei}  volatility and readability
[15:24] {dino} just in general, why is ndx overreacting compared to others
[15:24] {Threei}  lack of volatility is what usually leaves us with very f6ew trades on gap and stall days,
[15:25] {Threei}  lack of readability - on gap and climb days,
[15:25] {Threei}  gap and reversal like today gave more opportunities
[15:26] {Les} took affy again. but looking for the big b/d. dunno if market gonna help into close
[15:26] {dino} my problem is the gap filled ok, but dropping hard still. imo fill and go up
[15:26] {Les} maybe now
[15:26] {Les} into close. which means FAS
[15:27] {Les} fas 24
[15:28] {bellowsbunch} fas to fall further?
[15:28] {Les} maybe not. stopped -07 fas
[15:30] {Threei}  most likely for now, FAS,
[15:30] {Threei}  there will be bounce soon,
[15:30] {Threei}  but I'd want to see SPY gaining firmer footing for that
[15:30] {dino} moon that spells bounce
[15:30] {jfjf64} good day  al
[15:30] {jfjf64} all
[15:31] {Threei}  take care jf
[15:31] {Les} ciao
[15:31] {Threei}  MON 1:2
[15:32] {dino} cya jf
[15:32] {dino} no takers on moon
[15:32] {Les} l fas .01 stop under .90
[15:41] {Les} that's it. stopped and i am outta here
[15:41] {RonS} cya Les
[15:41] {Les} dirty kitchen looking better than this close
[15:41] {Les} a domani
[15:42] {Threei}  MON 1:3, done
[15:43] {dino} gj
[15:43] {Threei}  ty
[16:00] {Threei}  thank you all
[16:00] {larisa} bye :)
[16:00] {Threei}  have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[16:00] {nemo} gnite
[16:00] {hawk} nite all
[16:00] {dino} gn all

Friday, June 18, 2010

Fri Jun 18 2010

Two very nice charts to sustain your educational needs over the weekend. One is "setup within setup", I attach the chart with annotations and please read the explanations in the log starting from 10:23 to 10:38.

Another is short off the double top setup, using bounce into resistance. Read comments from 11:21.



Session Time: Fri Jun 18 00:00:00 2010
[08:32] {Threei}  British Petroleum plc Moody's downgrades rating to A2 from AA2; all ratings remain on review
[08:32] {Threei}  - This assessment reflects a substantial upward revision of the estimated size of the leak, the continued failure to bring the leaking Macondo well under control, and the mounting costs and claims for damages. Moody's believes that costs for containment, clean-up, litigation and fines are likely to be higher than the rating agency had previously expected in view of the widespread and continuing physical and economic damage.
[08:32] {Threei}  XAU/USD Spot Gold Spot gold hits fresh all-time highs above $1,255/oz
[08:45] {hawk} good morning
[08:51] {Threei}  hawk :)
[08:56] {dptl} good morning
[08:57] {bellowsbunch} gm
[08:57] {Threei}  dp, bellow :)
[08:58] {Threei}  Russia has been the most vocal of the BRIC nations on the desire to create/implement a new reserve currency. On Sept 18th 2009. Russian PM Putin commented that there was a need for several reserve currencies. Back on March 2009 ahead of the April G20 Summit in London Kremlin Aide Dvorkovich noted that Russia supported the ruble and yuan as new reserve currencies In early June 2009 on CNBC television Russian President Medvedev suggested that there should be a new basket of strong regional currencies to replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency
[09:02] {hawk} Vad, do you know if you can link the quote board with  a chart in Laser so u could click on a symbol and the chart would change?
[09:03] {Threei}  I don't use quote board, not sure
[09:03] {Threei}  try
[09:03] {dptl} go window set link
[09:03] {Threei}  link it the usual way and see if it works
[09:04] {hawk} tried it, no workie
[09:04] {Threei}  dp, works for you?
[09:04] {dptl} yes
[09:04] {Threei}  hawk, he is all yours :)
[09:04] {dptl} you have to make new link
[09:05] {dptl} in the set link menu
[09:08] {hawk} hmm, still won't work, i'll mess with it a bit.  thanks dp
[09:09] {Threei}  you let him off the hook too easy hawk
[09:10] {Threei}  short of flying out and actually doing it, everything is fair game
[09:11] {hawk} lol, new link, Boardview: Hot with stock Chart.  Still won't work
[09:12] {dptl} are you using board view clasic?
[09:12] {hawk} yes
[09:13] {dptl} use board view plus....much easier to put symbols in and it works with linking to enything
[09:13] {hawk} ah, ok, trying
[09:13] {dptl} anything
[09:13] {Threei}  I like "enything"... makes me feel beter about my typing
[09:13] {dptl} :)
[09:13] {Threei}  I mean typein
[09:14] {Threei}  or tiepeinq
[09:14] {dptl} lol
[09:14] {Threei}  I'll stop it before Raven fainted
[09:16] {shorty} hello everyone
[09:16] {Threei}  shorty :)
[09:17] {ese} good morning.....
[09:17] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:18] {ese} once again from first hand experience.......i can whole heartedly reccomend buying a hot tub
[09:18] {ese} just got out......am relaxed and ready to go
[09:19] {shorty} is it one of those salt water hot tubs?
[09:20] {ese} nope....never heard of that shorty
[09:21] {hawk} got it dp, thanks!
[09:21] {dino} gm all
[09:21] {larisa} gm :)
[09:21] {RonS} gm all
[09:21] {Threei}  dino, larisa :)
[09:21] {Threei}  ron :)
[09:22] {Threei}  told youi hawk, don't let him off the hook that easy :)
[09:22] {dptl} :)
[09:22] {hawk} :)
[09:22] {shorty} I heard they are less maintenance.  I would love to have a hot tub.
[09:27] {lasertrev} morning
[09:27] {Threei}  trev :)
[09:27] {ese} salt water less maintenance.......hmmmmmmmm
[09:28] {ese} don't know about that one
[09:29] {Threei}  keeping ana eye on GLD, among other things
[09:29] {Threei}  other things being usual suspects
[09:29] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:30] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:31] {shorty} I guess I can't comment on that ese.  But man that would be nice to step into a hot tub in the morning regardless if it's salt water or not.
[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  GLD  123 break if holding above .90
[09:31] {Threei}  I'd prefer deeper pullback
[09:31] {Threei}  but ready to try this
[09:32] {Threei}  BP sharp selling
[09:33] {Threei}  AA Russia to increase aluminum purchases (11.23, +0.05, 0.45%)
[09:35] {jfjf64} amln .38 break
[09:35] {Threei}  GLD, no go
[09:37] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .85 break if stays above .75
[09:38] {Threei}  invalidated but not off radar
[09:39] {Les} morning
[09:39] {Threei} Long Setup:  BP  .45 half lot
[09:41] {Threei}  stop under .30
[09:42] {Threei} Short Setup: WFC  .85 break
[09:44] {Threei}  .50 is critical fot BP
[09:45] {Threei}  prolonged battle
[09:45] {Les} gld had its pullback. breakout ok here?
[09:46] {Threei}  probably...
[09:46] {Threei}  BP no go
[09:47] {Threei}  whole week is so annoying
[09:47] {jfjf64} loosers  out  of  way
[09:48] {Les} wfc still good to go stopwise?
[09:49] {Threei}  .96 is resistance so far
[09:49] {Threei}  sure
[09:50] {Threei}  I'd prefer normal stop placement, above 28
[09:50] {Les} sure
[09:51] {Threei}  HAUP Strength being attributed to BBY carrying their products in July (2.70, +0.22, 8.84%) (related BBY )
[09:54] {Threei}  doesn't feel like there is any direction
[09:55] {nemo} opex day...mmmmhhhh....vodka.....opex day....vodka...tough call
[09:56] {jfjf64} how  did  celtics  blow  that  gm
[09:56] {Les} sounds good nemo. whisky it is.
[09:56] {Les} not for you though. too early
[09:57] {nemo} no Kendrick Perkins=no rebounding, no Ray Allen, no offensive diversity
[09:57] {shorty} Ahhh Les, whiskey is a fine beverage.
[09:57] {nemo} nevermind Ron Artest having an offensive rocket shot
[09:57] {Threei}  if charts are any indication, low volume bounce is over,
[09:57] {jfjf64} vxx .50 break
[09:57] {Threei}  down from here
[09:58] {jfjf64} hold .45
[09:58] {Threei}  SPY 111.40 break is needed to send things down screaming
[09:59] {Threei}  let's tighten things up a bit, WFC stop to above .95
[10:00] {Threei}  protect ourselves against double bottom scenario
[10:08] {Threei}  third test of the low
[10:08] {Threei}  new low
[10:08] {Threei}  come on WFC, time to roll over and die
[10:08] {Threei}  good boy
[10:09] {Les} I scalped .79. letting it go
[10:11] {Threei}  this .75 area was somewhat fuzzy from decision-making point of view,
[10:12] {Threei}  it was about 1:1 if take the resistance literally
[10:12] {Threei}  butr WFC is one of the weakest among financials, weaker than FAS
[10:12] {Threei}  but market can't define direction
[10:12] {Threei}  so, kind of discretionary
[10:12] {RonS} wanted .73...screwed the pooch for .01...waiting
[10:13] {Threei}  hard to tell
[10:13] {Threei}  FAS is one of the weakest sectors, and WFC is one of the weakest in it
[10:13] {Threei}  so... both ways have right to exist
[10:14] {Threei}  who wins, patient ones or scalpers, remains to be seen
[10:15] {RonS} wfc on the HFT fave list...they run it up and down for penny scalps
[10:16] {dino} cstr?
[10:17] {Threei}  no news
[10:17] {nemo} little late to the party on that one dino
[10:17] {nemo} look for consolidation?
[10:19] {Threei}  guess what
[10:19] {Threei}  scalpers win
[10:20] {Les} yeh give me .05 and get me out. one of those days again...
[10:21] {ese} not doing much been following uaua but thats about it
[10:21] {Threei}  5 points range S&P
[10:21] {Les} was mightily impressed by .80 rally on FAS et al. yesterday at close
[10:23] {Threei}  look at LVS 1 min
[10:23] {Threei}  C&H in the making,
[10:23] {Threei}  cup has formed with rim .85
[10:23] {Les} aggressive entry?
[10:24] {Threei}  handle is slightly over half complete
[10:24] {Threei}  I'd observe a little bit more
[10:25] {Threei}  maybe like this if you want to be aggressive:
[10:25] {Threei}  mini-range .65 - .75 within that bigger formation
[10:25] {Threei}  .75 break entry
[10:25] {Threei}  stop underr .65,
[10:25] {Threei}  and count on future .85 break
[10:25] {jfjf64} i  lk
[10:25] {Threei}  with half out into the spike
[10:25] {Threei}  and ride the rest
[10:26] {Threei}  as with all aggressive entries odds of working are less, reward if works is much bigger
[10:28] {Threei}  RU) Russian official reportedly says Russia plans RUB72B of govt asset sales in 2010; says no need at this point to privatize Gazprom, Rosneft, or Russia Rail
[10:29] {Threei}  isn't it funny that for them privatization of huge corporations is simply a matter of "need or no need at this point"
[10:29] {Les} was gonna ask does this mean russia is out of money too?
[10:29] {nemo} The Tsar does what he wants-Putin
[10:31] {Threei}  1:1 is close... will we break or won't we
[10:31] {Les} half out
[10:32] {Threei}  {LVS} we so will
[10:32] {Threei}  half out .88
[10:32] {Threei}  follwoing the plan to the letter
[10:32] {Les} stop b/e?
[10:32] {Threei}  taking advantage of aggressive entry by securing profit and cutting down on risk
[10:33] {Threei}  under .75 or under .70, both are reasonable and deopend on personal preferences
[10:33] {shorty} Thanks Threei.  THat was fun.
[10:34] {Threei}  very clean read, and interesting setup
[10:34] {Threei}  I like this kind of things, mini-setup within bigger one
[10:34] {Threei}  bigger one provides general read and idea of the trade, mini-one provided particular entry and allows better risk management
[10:34] {shorty} I took at .76 with stop to .65 exit .88
[10:35] {Threei}  now, look at what you did from this point of view:
[10:35] {Threei}  "standard" players took .85 break
[10:35] {Threei}  with at least 15 cents risk
[10:35] {Threei}  and got 3 cents reward for that so far, ednuring pullback now
[10:36] {Threei}  by structuring trade as we did, you essentially tok a role of smart money
[10:36] {Threei}  being in in advance, foreseeing the setup crowd was countin on,
[10:36] {Threei}  selling to the crowd as it rushed in
[10:36] {Threei}  having 10 cents risk, less than theirs,
[10:37] {Threei}  having 12 cents reward while they were just entring
[10:37] {Les} 1/4 .90
[10:37] {Threei}  1:2
[10:37] {Threei}  1/4 more our .94
[10:37] {Threei}  they don't even have 1:1 yet
[10:37] {jfjf64} look  rig
[10:38] {shorty} A beautiful trade that was.
[10:38] {Threei}  this is the most pleasant part of thw whole thing - being smart money, being one step ahead
[10:38] {hawk}  GLD shining
[10:38] {Threei}  took that 123 break?
[10:38] {hawk} yep, .02
[10:38] {Threei}  :)
[10:39] {ese} L gmcr 1/2 lot .99
[10:39] {Les} all out .99
[10:39] {Les} ty
[10:39] {Threei}  welcome
[10:39] {Les} definitely back in black now
[10:40] {dino} cstr hl l .75
[10:40] {Threei}  if not making up for everything monetary, this one is very satisfactory morally, lol
[10:40] {nemo} morals?
[10:40] {nemo} Vad...morals...gag
[10:40] {Threei}  oh, let me pretened I have any for a second, will ya
[10:40] {shorty} lol nemo
[10:46] {shorty}  STX Threei?  c/h
[10:46] {shorty} It's not a fast mover
[10:46] {Threei}  chart formation wise yes, but it's so narrow
[10:47] {shorty} LVS moves that much in 5 min
[10:47] {Threei}  unless you are going for scalp type I, nothing to bother for
[10:47] {dino} rino sm l .54
[10:47] {shorty} ese type of scalp
[10:48] {ese} which one shorty?
[10:48] {ese} I'm watching paint dry with gmcr
[10:48] {shorty} STX, need a lot of shares.
[10:49] {shorty} It's like watching paint dry too
[10:50] {shorty} You need a waterproof keyboard ese and trade from your hot tub.
[10:50] {Threei}  also protects against drooling during the nap
[10:50] {shorty} lol
[10:50] {ese} indeed
[10:50] {hawk} the wrinkly fingers get in the way
[10:50] {Threei}  fingers??
[10:50] {RonS} dino thx cstr +.53
[10:50] {dino} gj, yw
[10:50] {hawk} from being in the hot tub too long
[10:50] {Threei}  you mean people type with something other than elbows??
[10:51] {dino} nose wad
[10:51] {Threei}  lord... maybe that explains my typing... elbows and knees m8ight not be optimal...
[10:52] {nemo} rig coming into support at .25, missed
[10:52] {dino} out cstr .340, +.65
[10:53] {hawk} nice
[10:53] {dino} out .40, fat fingers
[10:53] {dino} ty
[10:56] {nemo} market going for another leg up?
[10:56] {ese} out gmcr .09 +.10
[10:57] {ese} out on the spike.....just keepin the skills up
[10:58] {RonS} dino, check out iflg...big ranges...
[10:58] {RonS} gj ese
[10:59] {shorty} quick scalp BP .10
[10:59] {Threei}  on what side shorty?
[10:59] {shorty} .04 break covered .94
[10:59] {Threei}  ok
[10:59] {Threei}  good one
[11:00] {shorty} t&s showed weaknedd
[11:00] {Threei}  was concerned you might succumb to the catching falling knives
[11:00] {ese} tks ron
[11:00] {shorty} I still do Threei, and I hate it.
[11:00] {shorty} I have not done it in awhile though.
[11:00] {Threei}  simple recipe:
[11:01] {Threei}  just don't do it
[11:01] {shorty} lol
[11:01] {Threei}  seriously... you may find a lot of people all over the net selling you very complicated and very involved ways to bring up this and that in yourself,
[11:01] {Threei}  but simple truth is,
[11:02] {Threei}  as soon as you get the big picture down,
[11:02] {Threei}  start understanding what market is and what your place in it is,
[11:02] {Threei}  you can simple do or stop doing this or that
[11:02] {Threei}  (CH) White House: A market based FX rate in China would be better for the worldwide economy; Govt will update currency report after G-20 summit
[11:02] {Threei}  - The US Treasury's semi annual currency report was delayed in early June chiefly because Chinese President Hu was making a state visit to the US at that time.
[11:02] {Threei}  - Note: Historically it is not uncommon for the Treasury to miss the deadline for publishing the currency report.
[11:04] {Threei}  I understand their logic about china currency,
[11:04] {Threei}  my concern though is:
[11:04] {Threei}  the ourtvomes of this move are so deep and wideand all-encompassing,
[11:05] {Threei}  I simply can't trust these folks to calculate them even roughly
[11:05] {dino} sm s veco .85
[11:06] {dino} bstop is .21
[11:07] {ese} i'm with ya dino sm .86
[11:08] {ese} s also
[11:08] {dino} ok
[11:08] {dino} v hl l .90
[11:13] {dino} v stopped -.11
[11:16] {ese} veco stop to .break even
[11:17] {ese} .69 cover
[11:17] {dino} .55 support area imo
[11:17] {ese} good enough.....tks dino
[11:17] {dino} need to break it
[11:17] {dino} :D
[11:18] {ese} good luck with the rest of it
[11:20] {dino} bstop to .51
[11:21] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .90 break if stays under 27
[11:22] {ese} nice........classic dino
[11:22] {dino} cov 50, +.35
[11:22] {ese} as the british would say paaaaaaaa fect
[11:23] {dino} ty
[11:23] {ese} sure is hard to find stuff these days
[11:24] {Threei}  LVS, let's try aggressively
[11:24] {Threei}  with stop above 27.10
[11:24] {Threei}  double top play
[11:25] {Threei}  let it go over 27 and short recross
[11:25] {Threei}  or if market drops, short .97
[11:28] {Threei}  cover half here or take scalp
[11:28] {Threei}  personal choice
[11:29] {Threei}  stop for the lanace above 27
[11:30] {dino} gifi
[11:31] {shorty} missed LVS short....darn
[11:33] {dino} gifi sm s .27
[11:39] {RonS} apc...hearing bp says partners not involved w/ 20 bil fund
[11:40] {dino} gifi stopped -.30
[11:41] {Threei}  shorty, if took second chance, partial out here
[11:41] {Threei}  who is holding balance, try to bid closer to .80
[11:42] {RonS} ..trying .82
[11:42] {Threei}  looks about right
[11:42] {shorty} no guts, watched it.
[11:44] {Threei}  no gurts for 2-3 cents stop?
[11:44] {Threei}  man, you need to rethink your risk tolerance :)
[11:45] {shorty} lol....godd point
[11:45] {shorty} *good
[11:45] {RonS} pussed out...+10  lvs thxs
[11:46] {RonS} apc, see a setup 3i?
[11:46] {Threei}  well
[11:46] {Threei}  bounce from about 20 cents lower
[11:47] {shorty} I saw it as 3 cent risk, but if it would have past my stop, It probably would have turned into a 10 cent risk......working on that Threei.  I know, it's bad.
[11:47] {Threei}  about here, Ron, .70 - .80
[11:47] {Threei}  too volatile to tell more precisely
[11:48] {Threei}  10, no shorty, LVS is not that volatile
[11:48] {Threei}  can do couple cents slippage, not 10
[11:48] {Threei}  ok Ron, hunt from here
[11:49] {Threei}  stop under .50
[11:49] {Threei}  exact entry is all but impossible to call
[11:49] {shorty} oh...ty
[11:51] {RonS} apc sm l .55
[11:56] {Threei}  btw shorty
[11:56] {Threei}  if LVS comes to 27 third time, do not short it anymore
[11:57] {shorty} ok..thanks
[11:57] {Threei}  drwa the line from the second top 11:08 and lower highs after that, you'll see why
[11:57] {Threei}  draw
[11:58] {Threei}  sorry, more precisely:
[11:58] {Threei}  start the line from first top, 10"58
[11:58] {shorty} past res from that line
[11:58] {RonS} out apc -.20
[11:59] {Threei}  Ron, didn't want to distract you while you were in trade,
[11:59] {Threei}  when a volatile stock comes this close to important support as APC did to .50,
[12:00] {Threei}  don't buy it outright,
[12:00] {Threei}  let it break the support, dive, establish low, then recross it for an entry
[12:00] {RonS} got it
[12:00] {Threei}  There is one exception to it,
[12:00] {Threei}  the case where it drops into such support very sharply
[12:01] {Threei}  then the chance of bounce off it is high,
[12:01] {Threei}  but when it comes close to support, hesitates, pauses, ranges a little,
[12:01] {Threei}  odds are it will break support
[12:01] {RonS} i thought this had that chance but it ran inot the noon hour and the vol was not there
[12:01] {Threei}  shake out premature buyers
[12:02] {Threei}  then recover
[12:02] {Threei}  you can see that period of hesitation above the support
[12:02] {Threei}  that was luring in,
[12:03] {Threei}  tempting buyers, collecting them,
[12:03] {RonS} yes...so .60 break next entry?
[12:03] {Threei}  then killing them by losing spport, and as they rushed for exit, bottom fell out
[12:03] {Threei}  depends on where it establishes support
[12:03] {Threei}  I would porefer .50
[12:04] {Threei}  it has more significance
[12:04] {Threei}  but the stock is so volatile that we are talking about fuzzy zones rather than exact numbers
[12:05] {Threei}  in any case, use whole thing as illustration for understanding of how these psychological things work
[12:05] {Threei}  shaping up the chart,
[12:05] {Threei}  provoking action, faking out etc
[12:05] {Threei}  underlying motive is the same: what is exceedingly obvious is usually wrong
[12:06] {Threei}  and real action starts after those who went for obvious are gotten rid of
[12:07] {dino} hl s gifi .68
[12:10] {Threei}  see the continuation of the logic Ron?
[12:10] {Threei}  granted, it was hard to apply on this particular one because of its extreme volatility, but it will work for you many times over on more "normal" stock
[12:10] {Threei}  stocks
[12:11] {RonS} yes
[12:11] {Threei}  last LVS trade is not resolved still for the second half
[12:12] {Threei}  speaking of these patterns, noticed how well LVS follows most of them?
[12:12] {Threei}  our two winning trades yesterday closer to end of day on it, worked like charm,
[12:12] {Threei}  this long previouslt for C&H,
[12:12] {Threei}  this short
[12:13] {Threei}  APC, .50 buyer on recross would be exiting here now
[12:14] {Threei}  heck, even .60 one would
[12:14] {hawk} just got out from .57, thx for the mention Ron
[12:15] {hawk} small
[12:15] {RonS} gj hawk
06[12:15] * Threei slaps hawk around a bit with a large roll of cash
[12:15] {hawk} stopped on the first try
[12:21] {RonS} dino, whatcha think of cstr lod breakdown and re-cross l entry?
[12:22] {hawk} LVS
[12:22] {RonS} under 3i's criteria of sharp break and reversal...
[12:24] {dino} cov .38 gifi +.30
[12:24] {Threei}  1/4 more out at .82,
[12:24] {dino} cstr, hmm, feels lower
[12:25] {Threei}  last 1/4 out at .74
[12:25] {Threei}  if that's not a pure beauty
[12:26] {hawk} nice dino, and Vad
[12:26] {dino} i like the idea ron, watching it
[12:26] {dino} ty hawk
[12:28] {RonS} cstr feels like breakdown and i cannot short
[12:29] {dptl} leaving early.....have a good weekend all,see ya monday........Nemo,don't drink to much :)
[12:29] {Threei}  hah!
[12:29] {nemo} how much is too much???
[12:29] {Threei}  pottle-kettle
[12:29] {shorty} good weekend dptl
[12:30] {hawk} lol
[12:30] {Threei}  take care dp, have a good one :)
[12:30] {RonS} bye dp
[12:30] {Threei}  BP Chairman: First of the two relief wells has reached within the 200 ft of the leaking well; drilling speed must slow as they approach the well - TV interview
[12:32] {Threei}  you out LVS ron?
[12:32] {RonS} yep
[12:34] {RonS} hard for me to tell if these cstr bids are real
[12:34] {Threei}  you can't, until you see how they behave when sold into
[12:34] {dino} cya dp
[12:35] {Threei}  if they disappear at first sign of selling into them, they are fake
[12:35] {Threei}  if stay and absorb, real
[12:35] {dino} holds well imo
[12:35] {RonS} these bids are pimping the price
[12:35] {Threei}  meant to
[12:36] {RonS} man, was i a sucker for this action...for years...
[12:36] {Threei}  and then you saw the light?? :)
[12:36] {RonS} no, i heard you...and the light went off
[12:37] {Threei}  oops
[12:37] {Threei}  sorry
[12:37] {RonS} ..or on, i should say
[12:37] {Threei}  ah... not sorry then
[12:37] {Threei}  lol
[12:37] {Threei}  {nemo} as if you were sorry in any case
[12:38] {nemo} where the hell did you get that?
[12:38] {Threei}  read your mind
[12:38] {nemo} I'm busy
[12:38] {Threei}  so, yeah... in hell {G}
[12:40] {dino} hl l cstr .65
[12:42] {nemo} fcx might be bounce candidate here at 200 ma
[12:43] {hawk} news APC?
[12:43] {nemo} it's at the open here
[12:43] {nemo} fcx tht is
[12:44] {Threei}  yes
[12:44] {Threei}  (US) US Rep Markey (D): Other BP partner companies involved with the oil spill should pay into a relief fund
[12:44] {Threei}  - Feels Mitsui and Anadarko should help pay for costs associated with spill (BP has 65% stake in Gulf oil field where spill occurred; APC and Japan"s Mitsui are partners in the field )
[12:46] {hawk} thx vad
[12:54] {Threei}  nemo... good news
[12:54] {nemo} I can drink?
[12:54] {Threei}  world's progress depends on us
[12:54] {Threei}  look:
[12:54] {nemo} ?
[12:55] {Threei}  The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. '
[12:55] {Threei}  George Bernard Shaw
[12:55] {nemo} Yeah, but the underlying point, is you have to get rid of alot of people
[12:55] {Threei}  so?
[12:55] {nemo} I can't afford enough ammo
[12:56] {Threei}  it's easy
[12:56] {Threei}  hide in the bushes, shoot a little both directions, get out - they will finish it all by themselves shooting each other
[12:56] {nemo} wow...you bored?
[12:57] {Threei}  at least that's how I used to manoevre between mafia and corrupted police :)
[12:57] {Threei}  and yes, bored
[12:57] {dino} i froze cstr
[12:57] {Threei}  no clear trades
[12:57] {Threei}  lol dino
[12:58] {RonS} i am waiting for and .80 break up or a breakdown to .20
[13:01] {nemo} apc at the 200 again
[13:01] {nemo} got that trend line resistance going though
[13:02] {dino} there you go
[13:02] {RonS} got away from me...glad you are on the right side
[13:03] {dino} stop to .98
[13:06] {dino} veco back to range top
[13:06] {Threei}  be back in 20
[13:07] {dino} stop to .10
[13:07] {nemo} likely top around .30 dino
[13:08] {dino} running tight
[13:08] {dino} to .15
[13:08] {dino} to .20
[13:09] {dino} out .19 slip, +.54
[13:09] {RonS} veco shows 17% float short, 7.5 mil shares
[13:09] {RonS} gj dino
[13:09] {nemo} ok, I was off by .02
[13:09] {hawk} nice one dino, took it for +.22, thx
[13:09] {dino} about the only thing moving
[13:10] {dino} ty, gj
[13:14] {dino} good top call nemo
[13:14] {nemo} lucky
[13:15] {RonS} i thought nemo was taliking about veco...lol
[13:26] {Les} all is silent on the western front?
[13:27] {Les} ... as the tumbleweed rolls through the chat room
[13:29] {RonS} we've been ripping it up in a light tape Les
[13:29] {RonS} w/ opex, dicey from here imo
[13:32] {Threei}  back
[13:32] {Les} yeh I chose gardening instead of the tape. I can only drink so much whiskey...
[13:36] {shorty} I have a maintenance free lawn.  I get these beautiful yellow flowers that grow randomly on my lawn.
[13:37] {Threei}  (CA) Canada sends letter to G20 urging countries halve their deficits by 2013
[13:37] {Threei}  someone died and designated Canada a king of the world?
[13:37] {hawk} lol shorty
[13:41] {Les} well Australian PM has shown himself to be a dunce
[13:41] {Les} so Canada takes moral leadership...?
[13:41] {RonS} Oh Canadaaaaaa...
[13:41] {Les} no one likes Merkel anymore
[13:43] {RonS} ya know, this drilling moratorium really steams me.  I liken it to having a bloody nose, and sticking yourself in the eye to fix it.  Those people on the Gulf are being devastated by rampant stupidity.
[13:47] {Threei}  while Canada certainly handled whole situation much better than most, it's just doesn't look big/important enough on the world scene to play the role of "we will tell you how"
[13:47] {Threei}  (US) Reportedly Senate passes bill that delays medicare payment cut for doctors (as expected)
[13:50] {dino} ron, i'm w/you. plus the only reason we drill in those deep waters is because govt won't let us access land sites
[13:50] {nemo} or shallow water sites
[13:50] {Threei}  all of which are much safer
[13:51] {dino} i am in marcellus shale area, and they have just put a halt on all shale drilling, fear factor from this gulf accident, costing jobs here too
[13:52] {dino} it seems to me that i should be compensated if they do not allow the drilling
[13:52] {Les} ah right I remember your claims dino. so spillover effect everywhere in the US?
[13:52] {dino} yes
[13:53] {Les} dumbasses
[13:53] {nemo} you should feel at home with them Les
[13:53] {Les} let's see how US motorists likes $5 gallon petrol
[13:53] {nemo} sorry
[13:53] {Les} that was a low blow nemo
[13:53] {nemo} not really
[13:53] {shorty} lol
[13:53] {nemo} Can't help myself
[13:53] {Les} par for the course for you
[13:54] {dino} they are. not like we stop using gas and oil, just spending money overseas for it, costing usa jobs, trade deficit, money to unfriendly nations, etc. they do not think ot through
[13:54] {nemo} You serve 'em like that, gotta' hit them outta' the park
[13:54] {Les} fair enough
[13:54] {RonS} ...there is nothing about fear with this. the dem agenda is to skyrocket energy prices for the purpose of alt enrgy dreams and punishing everyone to get on the federal reservation.  'nuff said. i will stop.
[13:55] {Les} rig breaking its range
[13:55] {dino} yes, obamination is pushing his clueless agenda. just like his joke of nuclear free world. the guy just doesn't get it
[13:55] {nemo} 200 at about .20
[13:56] {Threei}  I am in the same cart as you Ron... that's how I see things
[13:56] {Threei}  I am also interested in LVS again
[13:56] {Les} starting to like RIG. once it busts the 200
[13:56] {Threei}  no clear setup yet, watching
[13:57] {RonS} ...guess rig addition to the swiss index might be swiss cheese
[13:57] {nemo} it might be a quick bounce
[13:57] {nemo} may be recross .30
[13:58] {nemo} offer at .29
[14:00] {Les} nearly 50% Ron
[14:01] {Les} oh you noticed it getting extraordinary permission to join the index.
[14:01] {nemo} apc break of .60?
[14:03] {Les} s RIG .23 hl stop .35
[14:04] {RonS} check out sun
[14:04] {nemo} wow, impressive
[14:04] {Les} cover +.10 rig
[14:04] {dino} gj
[14:05] {Les} on the way down IMO. looking for another setup
[14:07] {RonS} hal may be also...
[14:08] {ese} tired of lookin all....am outta here for the weekend........happy fathers day
[14:08] {Les} lol someone telephones me and rig craps itself
[14:08] {RonS} same to ya ese
[14:08] {ese} cya ron
[14:08] {dino} cya es
[14:08] {ese} dino
[14:08] {lasertrev} ese dcc
[14:10] {Threei}  take care ese
[14:11] {Les} s rig at .19 thought it was a bounce stopped .31
[14:12] {nemo} after being up so strong, why did you think it would continue to drop?
[14:13] {Les} .19 was MA resistance. but market spiked, so did it.
[14:13] {Les} back to the bottle
[14:19] {Les} vad wfc nearing 28
[14:19] {Les} daily looks like breakout potential but with this market...?
[14:21] {Threei}  yeah, questionable
[14:24] {Threei}  maybe if market makes a strong move up but that's a tall order
[14:26] {RonS} could imax go on a further run w/ Toy Story 3 out this weekend?
[14:29] {larisa} I will say yes so you do not feel lonely :)
[14:30] {RonS} The Lonely Guy...Steve Martin  :D
[14:33] {Threei}  I will say no so you two don't feel like talking in the middle of desert
[14:35] {RonS} cie news 3i?
[14:35] {Threei}  nothing fresh
[14:36] {Threei}  but it's involved in the whole Gulf thing
[14:36] {Threei}  somehow
[14:36] {Threei}  this is from June 1:
[14:37] {Threei}  Cobalt Energy Announces Force Majeure Notification on Gulf Drill Rig
[14:37] {Threei}  - Announced that it had invoked the force majeure provision under the drilling contract with Diamond Offshore Company for the Ocean Monarch drilling rig. This rig was moored and ready to begin drilling operations at the location of our North Platte #1 exploratory well on Garden Banks 959. The reason for invoking force majeure was the steps announced on May 27, 2010 by the US Government which suspended all drilling operations in the deepwaters of the Gulf of Mexico. Cobalt had obtained all necessary permits and insurance as required by law and regulation to commence drilling operations. Cobalt believes that the direct financial impact of triggering force majeure on the Ocean Monarch will result in a net expenditure to the company of apprx $15M.
[14:37] {Threei}  - Cobalt also confirms its intent to initiate drilling operations offshore Angola in Q4 2010 or Q1 2011
[14:37] {Les} yeh let's send everyone and everything to africa
[14:38] {dino} there go more jobs and money
[14:38] {Les} the moratorium will be lifted and all the rigs and personnel dispersed around the world
[14:39] {dino} and more unemployment in usa
[14:39] {Threei}  when you beat up on business under all possible angles, excuses and pretenses, no wonfer business starts moving away
[14:39] {Les} amazing how buying the break suxs right now. WFC 28
[14:39] {Threei}  told ya
[14:39] {Threei}  but di ya listen
[14:39] {Threei}  nooooo
[14:40] {Threei}  whole "people good, companies bad", dino
[14:40] {Threei}  idiotic ideology of ideologic idiots
[14:42] {dino} living it w/you. just unbelievable how stupid they are. without business there aren't any jobs
[14:43] {RonS} depedent people and their guvmint masters good, independent thinking and doing bad.
[14:44] {Les} hey hey hey Vad
[14:44] {Les} you know what assuming makes out of us hey!
[14:44] {Les} I didn't buy the break
[14:45] {Les} I might have, if I wasn't pigging out in the kitchen
[14:45] {Les} but thats immaterial
[14:45] {Threei}  sorry Les... but you gave me enough reasons to assume that when I say "don't sdo it" you go right ahead :)
[14:45] {Les} WHAT!
[14:46] {Les} the learning is slowly sinking in happily
[14:48] {Les} getting the impression the market wants to run. maybe a pullback on wfc
[14:49] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .52
[14:50] {Threei}  if stays above .42
[14:50] {Threei}  double bottom break
[14:53] {dino} brb
[14:53] {RonS} c chop
[14:54] {RonS} 100 mil vol on c in last 3 minutes
[14:55] {RonS} Smith Barney's Swotkewicz joins Merrill Lynch       06/18 12:53 PM
[14:55] {RonS} say that 3 times fast...well, maybe 3i could...
[14:58] {Threei}  not even two
[15:04] {dino} calling it a day/week. take care all, ok day, going to keep it there
[15:04] {shorty} good weekend dino
[15:04] {larisa} bye dino :)
[15:04] {Threei}  take care dino
[15:05] {dino} :D
[15:12] {Threei}  LVS invalidated of course
[15:12] {shorty} It did hit .53
[15:12] {Threei}  really?
[15:12] {Threei}  I missed it
[15:13] {shorty} Well, not me.  Stopped at .41
[15:14] {Threei}  BP Spokesperson: Company has a right to seek a contribution from partners with regards to paying claims
[15:15] {shorty} Not sure what to say about that.
[15:15] {Threei}  partners will
[15:18] {bellowsbunch} any plays?
[15:18] {Threei}  not right now... missed some earlier I guess? LVS shot off 27
[15:18] {Threei}  short
[15:18] {bellowsbunch} really
[15:19] {Threei}  BP looks like short on this .60 break but no firm read
[15:19] {Threei}  maybe if stays under .65
[15:19] {Threei}  risk is minimal
[15:23] {Threei}  nope
[15:23] {Threei}  no direction anywhere
[15:24] {Threei}  Fri, multiple witching...
[15:24] {nemo} quadruple
[15:25] {Threei}  rinse
[15:25] {Threei}  shrug
[15:28] {nemo} their goes rig again
[15:33] {Threei}  probably the dullest and most useless week yet this year
[15:33] {nemo} and it ain't even August
[15:34] {Threei}  I don;t think it's summer related
[15:34] {Threei}  this summer is not likely to be boring
06[15:35] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large trout
06[15:35] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large trout
06[15:35] * nemo slaps Les around a bit with a large trout
[15:36] {nemo} he musta' passed out
[15:36] {Les} what makes you think i am here?
[15:36] {nemo} ahhh....the evil twin
[15:36] {Les} I've got girls, booze and good food to occupy now.
[15:36] {Les} c u's monday
[15:36] {shorty} cya Les
[15:36] {Les} occupy me now
[15:36] {RonS} cya Les
[15:36] {nemo} bad visuals
[15:37] {Threei}  why do I need e-mails from angry anlters googling the net for "trout", finding our logs, then sending me furious "what does this stuff have to do with fishing??"
[15:37] {RonS} lol
[15:37] {nemo} then change the slap supplies
[15:37] {Threei}  take care Les
[15:37] {Threei}  you have the creative slaps
[15:37] {Threei}  the trout is mirc's default
06[15:37] * nemo slaps shorty around a bit with a large pair of tonfa
06[15:37] * nemo slaps shorty around a bit with a large chain mace
06[15:37] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large scalping course
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large daytrading course
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large Master Profit Plan
06[15:38] * nemo slaps Threei around a bit with a large chainsaw
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large chart of uptrending market
06[15:38] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large book of Techniques of Tape Reading
[15:38] {nemo} Oh, are we board
[15:38] {nemo} bored
[15:38] {Threei}  you are board
[15:38] {shorty} Had to google Tonfa.....ouchy!
[15:39] {nemo} that's an understatement
[15:39] {nemo} :)
[15:39] {Threei}  I am not that curious
[15:39] {shorty} Usually I am not, but the tonfa was directed at me.
[15:41] {shorty} I thought it was a big block of tofu.
[15:42] {Threei}  look LVS
[15:42] {Threei}  exactly the same setup as one failed before
[15:42] {Threei}  but this one worked
[15:43] {Threei}  too random for my taste
[15:43] {RonS} Birinyi Associates, the research firm founded by legendary trader Laszlo Birinyi, took the daily change of the 500 members of the index and compared them to the daily change in the index itself over a rolling 200-day period. Ten years ago, stocks moved more independently at a 0.3 correlation. Today, the correlation is approaching the 0.7 mark, which basically
[15:43] {Threei}  which basically...?
[15:43] {nemo} play the indexes
[15:43] {shorty} Here is some Friday comedy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESfEd180rQ
[15:44] {RonS} means that 70 percent of the time, an individual stock’s move will match the change in the overall index each day.
[15:44] {shorty} Need the Benny Hill theme song for it though.
[15:44] {Threei}  sounds about right to me
[15:44] {RonS} "If I had to hypothesize, it is the proliferation of ETFs,” said Cleve Rueckert, the Birinyi analyst who compiled the figures. “You’re getting less specific company analysis and more of a focus on sectors."
[15:45] {Threei}  I never run stats but I do play index following way more than I used to 10 years ago
[15:45] {RonS} The analyst also cited a short-term trading mentality that is feeding on itself.
[15:45] {RonS} ...ergo, scalpers win...
[15:47] {shorty} Have a great weekend everyone.
[15:47] {Threei}  take care shorty
[15:48] {RonS} cya shorty
[15:49] {hawk} enjoy the weekend all :)
[15:49] {Threei}  you too hawk
[15:49] {RonS} good weekend all ;)
[15:50] {Threei}  thank you all
[15:50] {Threei}  have a great weekend
[15:50] {larisa} bye :)
[15:50] {Threei}  see you all on Monday
[15:50] {nemo} wiedersehen