Tuesday, May 11, 2010

May 11 2010

Somewhat frustrating day - we did fine profit wise, but the potential was much larger if only we recognized "slow grind up" day in time. Been awhile since we had that, so it kind of caught me off guard today. A few scalps, couple smallish stops and most noticeable trade was a nice DNDN short, classic breakdown setup

Session Time: Tue May 11 00:00:00 2010

[07:46] {magoo} morning
[08:34] {nemo} AWIAV?
[08:34] {Les} bed, most likely for vad
[08:43] {Threei} sigh
[08:44] {Threei} wo, I see wolfpack wins
[08:50] {Threei} FITB Seeing sluggish demand for loans - UBS conference slides (14.38, 0.00, 0.00%)
[08:51] {Threei} rweally? weren't we told loans are needed badsly but dfamn banks just won't loan?
[08:53] {nemo} crissakes, there's only room for one animated character in this room
[08:54] {Threei} whatcha talking 'bout?
[08:54] {nemo} _stewy
[08:54] {Threei} ummm... wrong spelling... that would have to be stewie
[08:54] {Threei} so you are safe :)
[08:56] {Threei} DSTI Announces reverse stock split
[08:56] {Threei} - previously announced that its Board of Directors has approved a 1-for-9 reverse split
[08:56] {Threei} The reverse stock split will be effective at 6:00 pm, Eastern Time, on May 11, 2010. DayStar's common stock will begin trading on NASDAQ on a split adjusted basis when the market opens on May 12, 2010, under the temporary trading symbol "DSTID."
[08:57] {Threei} this one won't be AIG, I bet
[08:57] {Threei} this will be kiss of death
[08:58] {Les} cool, something to play with.
[08:58] {Les} Nemo have identity crisis?
[08:58] {Les} or needs reaffirmation of his importance here?
[08:59] {Les} ITS YOU NEMO! YOU'RE THE ONLY COLORFUL CHARACTER HERE!
[08:59] {nemo} markin' territory
[08:59] {Les} I dunno
[08:59] {Les} you been sliding lately
[08:59] {Les} very quiet
[08:59] {nemo} issues
[09:00] {nemo} dcc les
[09:00] {dptl} good morning
[09:00] {nemo} dp
[09:01] {Threei} dp :)
[09:11] {Threei} (EU) ECB's Draghi: No alternative to Euro area budget consolidation
[09:12] {dino} gm all
[09:12] {Threei} dino :)
[09:13] {Threei} US) Fed's Lacker: Should not wait too long to raise rates, economic recovery gaining momentum
[09:13] {Threei} - Expects real estate and construction sector to remain weak in near term.
[09:13] {Threei} - Latest GDP figures indicate a sustainable recovery, decline in unemployment will take time.
[09:13] {Threei} - Consumer spending and business investment is driving the recovery.
[09:13] {Threei} - Inflation is low at the moment but it is unlikely to remain as such; the public clearly expects inflation to rise.
[09:18] {RonS} gm all - zlc, cgen, swhc squeeze candidates. It is notable to me that the last time swhc got hot was during the angst of the last meltdown and O election
[09:18] {Threei} ron :)
[09:19] {Threei} hmmm
[09:19] {Threei} I undersdtand why back then
[09:19] {Threei} why now?
[09:20] {KSystems} mornign
[09:21] {Threei} ks :)
[09:21] {nemo} Gruess Gott
[09:22] {shorty} good morning
[09:23] {Threei} shorty :)
[09:25] {strider} morning folken.
[09:25] {Threei} strider :)
[09:25] {strider} :)
[09:27] {Threei} US) Reportedly regulators are moving to implement market-wide circuit breakers based on single stocks
[09:27] {Threei} ***Note that Congress is holding hearings today on the 5/6 market problems
[09:27] {Threei} ***Reminder: On 05/10 the SEC and various exchanges agreed on a "structural framework" to deal with circuit breakers and erroneous transactions.
[09:28] {Threei} halt whole market if a single stock had a bad print?
[09:28] {Threei} talk about killing whole elephant with nuclear bomb in a hunt for mosquito
[09:31] {ese} morning......news flip flp again i see.......bailout not may not work....sheesh
[09:31] {Threei} ese :)
[09:32] {ese} flip flop is what i meant to say
[09:32] {strider} GS down hard
[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup: VXX half lot .50 break
[09:33] {Threei} invalidated
[09:34] {Raven} flex
[09:34] {Threei} not completely off radar though
[09:34] {Raven} wrong window
[09:35] {Les} here I thought Raven finally wanted to speak to us :(
[09:35] {nemo} ?
[09:35] {Raven} lol
[09:35] {magoo} DNDN
[09:35] {magoo} F
[09:35] {Les} AIG
[09:36] {magoo} RIG
[09:36] {nemo} cat
[09:36] {magoo} MGM now
[09:37] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[09:37] {Threei} Long Setup: VXX half lot .10 break
[09:37] {nemo} wattsa' matta' fa u?
[09:38] {Threei} invalidated again
[09:38] {nemo} it'll bounce at .80
[09:39] {magoo} only red 59 dow
[09:39] {dino} ctrp l .00
[09:41] {dino} stop ctrp -.12
[09:41] {Threei} crap
[09:41] {Threei} folks, stop this nonsense on first minutes, OK?
[09:41] {Threei} I am trying to get a read on what I watch,
[09:41] {Threei} all of a sudent barrage stocks is coming from you
[09:42] {Threei} look at this:
[09:42] {Threei} [09:35] {magoo} DNDN
[09:42] {Threei} [09:35] {magoo} F
[09:42] {Threei} [09:35] {Les} AIG
[09:42] {Threei} [09:36] {magoo} RIG
[09:42] {Threei} [09:36] {nemo} cat
[09:42] {Threei} [09:36] {magoo} MGM now
[09:42] {Threei} I am trying to look at them,
[09:42] {Threei} see nothing useable
[09:42] {Threei} lose all my concentration
[09:42] {Threei} if you see a setup, post it
[09:42] {dino} ctrp sm l .00
[09:42] {Les} sorry, didn't realise you looked through them
[09:43] {Threei} but this string of meaningless symbol mentions is totally unhelpful and just throws me off
[09:43] {magoo} thats what i usually do is alert movers
[09:43] {magoo} sorry
[09:43] {Threei} no problem, and I ususally look at them
[09:43] {Threei} but imagine this 5 symbols thrown at me on first minutes
[09:43] {Threei} 6 even
[09:44] {Threei} look at VXX
[09:44] {Threei} that was our play
[09:46] {Les} lvs for a 23 breakout?
[09:46] {Threei} US) Nevada reports March casino rev $912.1M, -0.66% y/y; Las Vegas strip $467M, +2.4% y/y\
[09:46] {Threei} I think so
[09:46] {shorty} CRUS Threei
[09:47] {Threei} and MGM 14 break
[09:47] {Les} out +.26 ctrp ty
[09:47] {dino} f l .15
[09:47] {nemo} in lvs
[09:47] {Threei} MGM is narrower
[09:47] {Threei} so let's set .95 holding as a condition
[09:49] {nemo} 1/2 out
[09:49] {Threei} EU) EU's Barnier: Entire European financial sector needs to pay a tax for financial risk
[09:49] {Threei} ***Reminder: On 04/15 Barnier said the EU bank levy should be more than symbolic, reflect the severity of the financial crisis.
[09:49] {Threei} sheer idiocy
[09:49] {nemo} stop 2nd half
[09:50] {dino} apol sm l .20
[09:51] {Threei} 1;2...
[09:51] {Les} half out lvs +.10
[09:51] {dino} all green
[09:51] {Threei} rinsed second half
[09:51] {Threei} ese, may want to keep an eye on old friend
[09:51] {Threei} DRYS
[09:52] {shorty} out F...Thanks dino. + 8
[09:52] {Threei} after long silence, started showing some activity
[09:52] {shorty} .08
[09:52] {Les} all out +.20 lvs ty vad
[09:52] {dino} out ctrp .42, +.42
[09:53] {shorty} nice dino
[09:53] {dino} ty
[09:53] {Threei} ACTG
[09:54] {Threei} interesting daily
[09:54] {Threei} 15 is total breakout
[09:54] {shorty} ACTG...b/o of 15 I assume?
[09:54] {Threei} thin one
[09:54] {shorty} sorry
[09:55] {Threei} momo candidate, discretionary
[09:56] {dino} out f .21, +.06
[09:56] {dino} apol stopped -.30
[09:57] {Threei} swhc
[09:57] {Threei} maybe a pullback entry if you have this one in mind aas a slow possibly even swing play
[09:58] {ese} hey vad.....have been doing that watching drys
[09:58] {Threei} :)
[09:58] {ese} been watching nvda more though
[09:58] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:58] {Threei} jf :)
[09:59] {jfjf64} crus
[10:00] {Threei} *(US) MARCH WHOLESALE INVENTORIES: 0.4% V 0.5%E
[10:00] {Threei} *(US) MAY IBD/TIPP ECONOMIC OPTIMISM: 48.7 V 48.4E
[10:00] {magoo} afraid to mention DNDN
[10:00] {dino} fire sm l .24
[10:01] {ese} who do you talk ttoo or how in the world do you measure optimism.......huh?
[10:01] {strider} BP c&h
[10:02] {strider} failed
[10:03] {dino} clf blood
[10:05] {magoo} i scalped DNDN
[10:05] {magoo} looks like momo still coming
[10:05] {magoo} out here tho
[10:06] {shorty} dino, BWLD forming a pattern?
[10:07] {dino} 38.50-38.90s? shorty
[10:07] {shorty} Yes....Head and shoulder pattern?
[10:08] {dino} shorty bwld upped thos a.m. fwiw
[10:08] {Threei} (US) Senate Majority Leader Reid (D-NV): Senate to vote on amendment to authorize Fed audit around 11:30am this morning- At approximately 11:30 a.m., the Senate will proceed to vote in relation to the Sanders amendment.
[10:08] {Threei} ***Note that in his remarks this morning, Fed's Lacker stated that the Sanders version of the Fed audit bill "looks pretty good."
[10:08] {Les} ACTG offering a small consolidation pattern here to get in aggressively. break of .92 offers
[10:09] {magoo} out .97 rd 2,
[10:09] {RonS} uh...w/ trepidation...aig...
[10:09] {shorty} Thanks for your 2 cents. Trying to see what you might see, and checking with you.
[10:10] {dino} np
[10:10] {dino} i see confusion in markets rightnow, going for coffee
[10:11] {shorty} Taking my daughter to school. See you guys in a bit
[10:11] {magoo} i knew it DNDN, should have hit 00
[10:11] {magoo} just remember people, RISK is increasing up here
[10:12] {magoo} hasnt even breathed yet
[10:12] {nemo} fcx db?
[10:12] {Les} ACTG 15 big offers
[10:13] {dino} elx l .00
[10:14] {dino} adding to fire to fl
[10:14] {Threei} doesn't look promising FCX
[10:16] {Threei} lol
[10:16] {Threei} what was that
[10:16] {nemo} it heard you
[10:16] {dino} random dancing day
[10:16] {Threei} no kidding
[10:16] {Threei} 40 cents teleportation
[10:17] {Threei} FDIC board submit proposal for large US depository banks create plans for wind down (related XLF )
[10:19] {nemo} might be starting to form inverse H&S on FCX
[10:19] {RonS} 3i, bp 48 break for short or is it a trap?
[10:20] {Threei} I would prefer to see some consolidation before the break
[10:20] {Threei} don't want to go in if it just drops sharply to support
[10:20] {jfjf64} VVUS runnin
[10:21] {nemo} getting right shoulder on fcx
[10:21] {dino} out elx .12, +.12
[10:21] {Threei} no news VVUS... some lame upgrade a few days ago
[10:23] {Les} vad, do you have a read on ACTG? is this a trap I've bought into?
[10:23] {Threei} huh?
[10:23] {Les} forget it
[10:23] {Threei} why is it a trap?
[10:23] {dino} out fire +.11, .35
[10:23] {Les} was waiting for a sharp drop below 15. forget it, I'm thinking too much
[10:24] {Threei} AIG Reportedly at a 'town hall' meeting on Monday, CEO told employees that he believe the sale of AIA unit to Prudential PLC will go through
[10:25] {Les} ty dino, followed you in and out of elx
[10:26] {RonS} NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Fairholme Capital Management, already one of the largest private shareholders in bailed-out insurer American International Group Inc. (AIG/PA:$10.0299,$0.0299,0.30%) ( AIG), bought more than 10 million additional shares in April.
[10:26] {Threei} not fresh
[10:26] {Threei} yesterday I think
[10:26] {RonS} last night
[10:26] {Threei} same group that earlier announced big stake in GS
[10:27] {dino} gj les
[10:27] {Threei} either true believers, or stuck wit previous stakes and now go for all or nothing
[10:27] {strider} GS
[10:29] {Threei} AIG new push
[10:30] {Threei} (EU) ECB drains 319.7B in overnight funds in fine tuning operation
[10:30] {Threei} hmmm
[10:30] {jfjf64} lk 5 min chart im a taker
[10:30] {Threei} any math buffs to compute how soon they go through whole trillion?
[10:31] {jfjf64} .61
[10:32] {jfjf64} comon aig
[10:33] {Threei} it's willing jf, but market weakness holding it down at the moment
[10:33] {Threei} keep stop under .50
[10:33] {Threei} either it goes now or tou may have to reemter
[10:33] {Les} aig salmon?
[10:34] {Threei} so far tries to act like one, yes
[10:34] {Threei} but it's a volatile thing
[10:34] {jfjf64} grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:35] {Threei} too much presure by droppng market
[10:35] {Les} ok. 2 stops now on AIG. that's enough
[10:35] {jfjf64} yup
[10:35] {jfjf64} looked lk was holdin up
[10:35] {jfjf64} to much pressur
[10:35] {Threei} yeah... but remember how many times I said I hated buying breaks on AIG
[10:36] {Threei} it's just not a breakout stock
[10:36] {nemo} so many can't remember
[10:36] {Threei} it explodes niecly off pullbacks
[10:36] {Les} fooled me first time with .05 stop as market sold off. Then it exploded
[10:36] {Threei} hard to time but that's about the only thing that works consistently on it
[10:39] {magoo} ive been losing on AIG of late...been harder it seems
[10:39] {dino} too fast for me
[10:40] {Les} out ACTG flat. not hanging around all day for it to move.
[10:40] {Threei} flat??
[10:40] {dino} pcln lod
[10:40] {Threei} where did you bought it?
[10:40] {Les} too late
[10:40] {dino} watching expe off it
[10:40] {Les} the .92 break was good. stupid of me not to buy it out .04
[10:41] {dino} qcom l .51
[10:41] {Threei} did bought... nice grammar
[10:41] {Threei} Raven fell of his chair
[10:41] {dino} qcom stop is .34
[10:42] {dino} wow pcln is fast
[10:42] {Threei} see what AIG did?
[10:43] {Threei} perfect momo move, but not off breakout
[10:43] {Threei} look through its chart today, it's very typical
[10:43] {Threei} a lot of good moves, but none of them are off classic break
[10:43] {Threei} evcery break is atraop,
[10:43] {Threei} pullback below support shakes you out,
[10:44] {Threei} then it explodes
[10:44] {Les} yeh cursing it
[10:44] {Threei} If you want to play it, observe this pattern and try to get its rythm
[10:45] {Threei} wow, this guy's English is more confusing than mine:
[10:45] {Threei} Fed's Lacker: have to be wary of hesitating on rate hikes while fanancial market is continues to be fragile
[10:45] {Threei} have to be wary of hesitating
[10:45] {Threei} normally I hesitate to be wary
[10:46] {dino} china report spooked lacker
[10:46] {RonS} ...maybe he is nary to be wary...
[10:46] {dino} maybe the fed heads should shut up
[10:46] {Threei} yet, ikn the next breath he adds:
[10:46] {Threei} still fairly comfortable with "extended period" language
[10:46] {magoo} ok vad, i took aig .61 pllbk
[10:46] {dino} all they do is talk and add crazy shakeouts
[10:47] {RonS} ...practicing greenspan doublespeak...want to be Chair?
[10:47] {dino} expe l .85
[10:47] {Threei} bad as they are dino... I find europian folks even more unnerving
[10:47] {Threei} with their open war on business rhetorics
[10:47] {Threei} a bit high it seems, mags...
[10:47] {dino} ok, i stand corrected, they should all shut up
[10:47] {Threei} lol
[10:47] {Threei} that I side with wholeheartedly
[10:48] {Threei} AIG's pullbacks are usually deeper
[10:48] {Threei} entry like .61 is valid for a quick scalp on bounce
[10:48] {dino} -4-.50 pcln
[10:48] {dino} -40.50 i mean
[10:48] {Threei} but if you hunt for bigger move, I'd prefer waiting for bigger pullback
[10:48] {magoo} was thinkin .87
[10:49] {Threei} market spikes
[10:49] {Threei} could help
[10:50] {dino} cf gap fill
[10:54] {dino} qcom stopped -.16
[10:55] {Threei} VXX, watch for quick pullback to about .80
[10:55] {Threei} forlong entry
[10:55] {Threei} for long entry
[10:55] {dino} cf sm l .50
[10:55] {Threei} GS CFO: Saw only 11 loss days in proprietary trading business over the last 12 months - UBS conf presentation
[10:55] {Threei} crap... I need to go learn from them
[10:56] {Threei} SQNM Strength attributed to vague chatter company could soon release positive data on its T21 Down Syndrome test (5.24, +0.15, 2.95%)
[10:56] {Threei} no seriously
[10:56] {Threei} 11 losing day a year?
[10:56] {Threei} I feel like I need this SQNm product
[10:57] {dino} why are they saying that, congress and obamination are getting fuel off of this
[10:57] {Threei} no kidding
[10:57] {Threei} amazes me
[10:57] {Threei} they are trying to impress clients
[10:57] {Threei} but draw so much fire
[10:57] {RonS} ...remember 3i...it's "God's work"...or is it we are gods...
[10:57] {Threei} I think they just don't realize how it sounds for ordinary folks
[10:57] {Threei} yeah... that was another PR gem
[10:58] {dino} reminds me of drexel
[10:58] {RonS} ...how it sounds?!...how about what it is?!
[10:58] {Threei} I don't know what it is
[10:59] {Threei} I am not that quick to write it off as manipulation
[10:59] {RonS} ...impossible without frontrunning the whole thing...
[10:59] {Threei} well...
[10:59] {Threei} I understand the thinking Ron,
[10:59] {Threei} but
[10:59] {Les} DNDN looks like its flaming out
[10:59] {Threei} I had about what, 4 or 5 weeks uninterrupted winning streak earlier this year
[11:00] {Les} still holding 50 ma support. waiting for break of that
[11:00] {Threei} and it looks absolutely surreal to practcicaly anyone I speak to
[11:00] {Les} and there it goes
[11:00] {Threei} and I have, as you well understand, nothing of GS's qualification and resourses
[11:00] {Threei} and don't forget:
[11:00] {RonS} ...but consider the scale 3i
[11:00] {Threei} they have a lot of traders who kind of average each other
[11:01] {Threei} if out of their, I don't know, 100 let's say
[11:01] {Threei} 10 have losing day today
[11:01] {Threei} 90 others cover them
[11:01] {Threei} so, while on a surface those stats do look beyond possible
[11:01] {Threei} I would label them as remarkable
[11:02] {Threei} but not completely out of realm of possible
[11:02] {dino} it is self hedged
[11:02] {Threei} with their scale, resources, awareness... I would certainly expect them to beat my averages, no? :)
[11:03] {Threei} let me out it this way:
[11:03] {Threei} put
[11:03] {RonS} ...for the duration of the performance I deem it impossible..but so be it
[11:03] {Threei} I don't know how they do it... neither do those who say it's a proof of manipulation,
[11:03] {Threei} we need more information to deem it ultimately this way or other,
[11:04] {Threei} but
[11:04] {dino} really does not matter. what will happen will happen
[11:04] {Threei} I will be disappointed if manipulatuion is the answer,
[11:04] {Threei} while the other side will be dosappointed if real trading talent is the answer :)
[11:05] {dino} yes
[11:05] {dino} clf sm l .25
[11:05] {Threei} UK) Lib Dems and Conservatives are in final stages of forming Govt - BBC
[11:05] {Threei} see AIG mags?
[11:05] {Threei} deeper opullback is still answer
[11:06] {Threei} .50 was it
[11:06] {magoo} yea
[11:06] {magoo} living it
[11:07] {Threei} VXX near .80, watchign market for sharp pullback
[11:07] {Threei} which would signal VXX entry
[11:08] {magoo} out .87 AIG but that wasnt easy
[11:08] {Threei} no
[11:08] {magoo} now see, it goes big to frustrate
[11:08] {Threei} notice hiwever how easy it would have been if you waitied for another leg down
[11:09] {Threei} pure move up ever since
[11:09] {Threei} no single pullback
[11:09] {magoo} agree..u are on to it
[11:09] {Threei} watchign closely now,
[11:09] {Threei} market and VXX,
[11:09] {Threei} ideally, we get sharp red bar in SPY
[11:09] {Threei} while VXX gives us a few seconds for entry
[11:11] {Threei} no clarity still
[11:11] {Threei} jf, managed to get revenge on AIG?
[11:12] {dino} ndx green
[11:13] {magoo} havent seen green in long time
[11:14] {dino} idsa sm l .96
[11:14] {dino} gappy
[11:14] {dino} thin
[11:16] {dino} out clf .72, +.47
[11:17] {Les} nice. been following you but screwed it. took a scalp only
[11:18] {RonS} out clf .69, +.39
[11:19] {ese} L ipxl .71
[11:19] {RonS} ty dino...
[11:19] {dino} np, gj
[11:20] {Les} cover dndn +.25
[11:20] {Threei} VXX...
[11:20] {Threei} looks ready
[11:21] {nemo} vxx
[11:21] {nemo} sorry
[11:22] {strider} long break .70?
[11:23] {Threei} most likely, yes
[11:23] {Threei} needs market drop to work
[11:23] {Threei} ad market looks ready too
[11:23] {dino} out expe, .91, +.06
[11:24] {dino} bad entry
[11:24] {dino} clf pulls back
[11:24] {shorty} Anyone in VXX?
[11:24] {Threei} .69 in
[11:25] {dino} ed's red
[11:25] {Les} .67 aggressive
[11:25] {nemo} Qs strong
[11:25] {shorty} Just got back, watching your trade. Thanks.
[11:25] {Les} out +:09
[11:25] {Threei} stop under .60 of course
[11:25] {Threei} self-explanatory
[11:26] {Threei} meanwhile, look what AIG did again
[11:27] {Threei} see breakout setup just under 42?
[11:27] {Threei} triggered and failed
[11:27] {Threei} sharp pullback
[11:27] {Threei} and jump up again
[11:27] {Threei} does it all the time
[11:27] {shorty} Like a fake out.
[11:29] {dino} darnrun dmc market, has me chickening out
[11:29] {Les} covered dndn again +.13 dunno what market is doing at moment.
[11:30] {dino} "it's tricky"
[11:30] {Threei} obviously no one does
[11:30] {Threei} including marjket itself
[11:30] {RonS} volatility
[11:30] {dino} out cf .67, +.17, bad entry
[11:30] {Les} looking for better gains, just market ain't playing ball right now
[11:30] {Threei} doesn't seem to a be a good day for bigger plays
[11:31] {Threei} even scalps are like pulling teeth
[11:31] {magoo} feels like thart
[11:32] {Threei} let's scratch half VXX here
[11:32] {RonS} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIdug40ZM-M&feature=related
[11:32] {Threei} just to decrease risk
[11:33] {Threei} not that play looks wrong, it's a risk that is unjustifiably high
[11:33] {Threei} see what I mean?
[11:34] {Threei} second half stopped
[11:34] {shorty} Cool vid RonS
[11:35] {dptl} mgm .35? long?
[11:35] {RonS} ...flashback with the conditions shorty...
[11:35] {strider} short HOG .87
[11:36] {magoo} ironically vad...AIG chart nicest ive seen with it
[11:36] {Threei} lol, yes
[11:36] {magoo} daily
[11:36] {Threei} can't tell dp
[11:36] {magoo} we cant tell dp?
[11:36] {Threei} no one can tell dp
[11:36] {Threei} dp is not even unknown - dp is unknowable
[11:37] {dptl} lol
[11:37] {Threei} what the deuce
[11:37] {RonS} hog...that pig is a runnin
[11:37] {Threei} I am so out of tune today
[11:38] {Threei} let's just decide whose fault it is
[11:38] {nemo} ferns
[11:38] {Threei} any volunteers?
[11:38] {dino} and your typing stinks too :D
[11:38] {Threei} lol
[11:38] {Threei} yes but my typing stinks always
[11:38] {Les} well I've got my paper cash hoard for the day. so blame me
[11:38] {Threei} nah Les
[11:39] {dino} take a break dude. look at my trades, panic and cut short on cf, expe, etc
[11:39] {shorty} Still paper trading Les?
[11:39] {Les} what, i'm not GOOD ENOUGH to blame yet!
[11:39] {Threei} no problwem dino, but I still need to find someone to blame
[11:39] {Les} hopefully laser is up and running this week shorty
[11:39] {dino} now you sound like a politician
[11:39] {Threei} lol... I just so used to beating up on you les, I may not get enough satisfaction
[11:40] {Les} :s
[11:40] {Les} how does that make me feel
[11:40] {Threei} proud?
[11:40] {Les} think I'll go and find the bottle
[11:40] {Threei} got beaten upo so badly, ad still alive?
[11:40] {shorty} Laser, cool. I am thinking of joining Laser too.
[11:41] {Les} was it you that I said that IB was good? Well, I take it back...
[11:41] {Threei} wait till you try laser executions...
[11:41] {shorty} me? I never said that,
[11:41] {ese} Ron....great tune by the Drells.......
[11:41] {Threei} you won't beluieve you ever thought IB was good
[11:42] {shorty} I have Orbis, I think it's like Laser.
[11:42] {Threei} only wiothout executions
[11:42] {RonS} ese...ya and white guys backing up black guys...back then...gotta love it
[11:42] {Threei} look at VXX
[11:43] {Threei} hard to believe
[11:43] {Les} out clf +:25
[11:44] {RonS} ...as gs waves the wand...
[11:44] {Threei} lol
[11:45] {Threei} you really believe that? :)
[11:45] {dino} gj les
[11:45] {RonS} ...it's my new religion...:D
[11:45] {dino} stops are my religion
[11:46] {shorty} Looking for a bounce here VXX?
[11:46] {Threei} not yet
[11:47] {dino} around 24.75
[11:47] {shorty} ty
[11:49] {Threei} AIG another gut-wrenching pullback
[11:49] {shorty} dino, near support at the beginning of the day? VXX
[11:49] {Threei} VXX once again showed that I am not in tune today
[11:50] {dino} 2 day support, but i am wrong
[11:50] {magoo} and is it safe to say?}?
[11:50] {magoo} a lil cranky
[11:50] {magoo} SORRRRRRY
[11:50] {shorty} I got caught in one of those yesterday Threei. (AIG)
[11:50] {RonS} lol
[11:50] {Threei} oh yes, and you know who is to blame? I just realized
[11:50] {shorty} lol
[11:50] {magoo} nemo?
06[11:51] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large cardboard cutout of Les
[11:51] {dino} idsa out .39, +.43\
[11:51] {magoo} ahhhhh
[11:51] {magoo} ok
[11:51] {RonS} gj dino
[11:51] {dino} ty hard to get out of
[11:51] {RonS} ya i could not get in where i wanted
[11:51] {shorty} nice dino.
[11:52] {dino} thx
[11:52] {dino} on thinnies go small, they gap around
[11:52] {dino} but they are fun
[11:53] {dino} 18.75 support area on pullback
[11:53] {shorty} stewy is quiet today.
[11:53] {dino} griffin?
[11:53] {shorty} lol
[11:53] {shorty} _stewy
[11:53] {strider} out HOG .68
[11:54] {strider} cover
[11:54] {RonS} wtg strider...looked really dangerous...
[11:54] {Threei} UK) Deal has been reached between Conservatives and Liberal Democrats
[11:54] {shorty} It did. I almost went in.
[11:54] {strider} small entry....added on the way down.
[11:55] {strider} partialled in partialled out
[11:55] {RonS} UK) The "Deal" is that we will continue to pillage the realm
[11:56] {_stewy} alive and makin' like a fly on the wall for now
[11:56] {dino} ssswwwaaaatttttttt
06[11:56] * nemo slaps _stewy around a bit with a large fly swatter
[11:56] {RonS} ...a sloppy _stewy...
[11:56] {Threei} so labor is out of the game completely?
[11:56] {dino} rino luv
[11:57] {Threei} US) Senate Vote on auditing Fed reportedly has enough votes to pass
[11:57] {dino} uh oh, not so sure we want to see that result
[11:57] {strider} lots of buy at .68 HOG.
[11:57] {RonS} ...boy, that could get interesting...talk about peeking behind the curtain in Oz...
[11:57] {nemo} or inside the septic tank
[11:59] {Threei} there were some amendments diluting the audit reach
[11:59] {Threei} not sure what form it went through
[11:59] {nemo} of course
[11:59] {dino} of course
[11:59] {nemo} oh jeez
[11:59] {Threei} may turn out just another wool over the eyes
[11:59] {dino} most likely off balance sheet hides
[11:59] {RonS} ...here we go...keepin the weenie hid...
[11:59] {nemo} probably
[12:00] {RonS} 3 card montie and the shell game come to mind
[12:03] {nemo} looks like the market just wants to crawl up for the day
[12:03] {Threei} my feeling too
[12:04] {Threei} (GR) Greece to formally request 20B from the euro bailout fund
[12:04] {Threei} oh, so all the brouhaha of last month was just informal request
[12:06] {Threei} US Senate approves Sanders amendment on GAO audit of the Fed; vote 96-0
[12:06] {Threei} I think that ammendment is exacly what limits audit power
[12:06] {ese} still long ipxl.....
[12:07] {strider} long HOG .70
[12:07] {strider} small
[12:10] {Threei} here it is:
[12:10] {Threei} - amendment allows a look at recipients of emergency aid during the financial crisis; and contains no language permitting a regular audit
[12:10] {nemo} so an audit that doesn't audit
[12:11] {dino} lol, but they can campaign that they voted fed audit
[12:11] {Threei} exactly
[12:11] {Threei} nothing but grandstanding
[12:11] {Threei} with zero substance
[12:11] {Les} DNDN strong. big vol here. trapped longs getting out?
[12:11] {strider} out HOG .87 +.17
[12:12] {Threei} my grandfather was so right...
[12:12] {Threei} longs Les?
[12:12] {Threei} AIG pullback starts
[12:13] {Les} I dunno. trying to understand big vol here...
[12:13] {dino} gj on hog stride
[12:13] {Threei} feel any headache Les?
[12:13] {strider} thankjs
[12:14] {Threei} seriously... is voulme caused by trapped longs exiting, or by trapped shorts covering... ow does it help you make any kind of decision?
[12:14] {Les} nah, learnt to give up thinking about it too much
[12:14] {Threei} or how can it even be figured out, ever?
[12:14] {Threei} distinguish between unknown and unknowable
[12:14] {dptl} nrg 22 break long?
[12:15] {Threei} yes if market continues
[12:15] {Threei} and notice how dp regularly responds to the word "unknowable"
[12:15] {dptl} in .01
[12:16] {RonS} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMlRpN8ANrU
[12:18] {Threei} quote for you, tell me where its from
[12:18] {Threei} She hated people who thought too much. She struck me as an appropriate representative for almost all mankind. Her expression implied that she would go crazy on the spot if anybody did any more thinking.
[12:19] {shorty} Cat' cradle
[12:20] {Threei} clap clap
[12:20] {Threei} knew ot googled?
[12:20] {Threei} or
[12:20] {shorty} Actually googles
[12:20] {shorty} googled
[12:20] {Threei} ok... doesn't count then
[12:21] {shorty} Al least you got me interested.
[12:21] {dptl} out flat nrg don't like it anymore
[12:22] {Threei} market lost drive
[12:22] {nemo} lunchtime
[12:22] {Threei} AIG however doesn't give a damn
[12:27] {strider} long HOG .77 one more time....
[12:30] {strider} holds with futs drop...so far.
[12:34] {ese} Ron ...your spooky today man...spooky
[12:35] {RonS} dino is spooky...i am just a mind laden with deep cultural bs...
[12:35] {Threei} lol
[12:36] {strider} out HOG +.03 stop
[12:37] {dptl} kgc?
[12:37] {RonS} 3i, jcp appears to be prepping for a beakdown. Do you see a trigger?
[12:37] {Threei} .30
[12:37] {RonS} thanks
[12:39] {strider} short JCP sm. .35 stop hod
[12:40] {Threei} (US) SEC: Preliminary analysis of equity moves on Thursday 6/5 shows stocks followed movements of the S&P500 emini futures contract
[12:42] {RonS} ya...and the yen spike 30 minutes before that...tell me something I do not know SEC
[12:43] {Threei} - Does not appear that any single event cause the market plunge on 6/5, no evidence supports theories of a fat finger trade leading to the plunge.
[12:43] {strider} ok VAD. fes up...was it you?
[12:43] {Threei} no, I was offline, remember?
[12:43] {Les} oops there goes conspiracy theories...
[12:43] {strider} that's what YOU said.
[12:44] {Threei} (oh thank goodness for well thought through alibi!)
[12:44] {nemo} breaking new highs at lunch oy
[12:45] {Threei} There is no evidence that hackers or terrorists were involved in the market plunge.
[12:45] {strider} however, I did notice _notvad was lurking.
[12:45] {Threei} argh
[12:45] {Threei} told him to stay away
[12:45] {strider} Gotcha! I wasn't here either.
[12:46] {Threei} there
[12:46] {Threei} :)
[12:46] {strider} A confession by trickery.
[12:47] {Threei} here is funny thing:
[12:47] {Threei} a month ago I would nail the day like today perfectly
[12:47] {Threei} events of last couple weeks changed the game,
[12:47] {Threei} and changed my mindset
[12:47] {Threei} no longer do I look for whole day climbs
[12:47] {Threei} so it caught me off guard
[12:48] {Threei} and that's all thinking I am going to do today
[12:49] {magoo} l GS 144.90
[12:49] {magoo} wanted the cross145
[12:49] {strider} stop JCP.
[12:49] {strider} -.09
[12:52] {magoo} hoping to sell break .50
[12:52] {magoo} nope out
[12:52] {Threei} sh*t... I think the world conspired to irritate me today to no end
[12:53] {nemo} why...what now?
[12:53] {magoo} out .10, + .20
[12:53] {Threei} e-mail by someone who signed up for trial and spent about 10 minutes in the room,
[12:53] {Threei} esentially sayiong:
[12:53] {nemo} email yesterday's log address back to him
[12:54] {Threei} my computer disconnected from internet, so I couldn't tell whether your trading good or bad, so why don't you make a room voice and video based so it would be more professional
[12:54] {Les} must be aussie
[12:54] {strider} was it signed _notLes?
[12:54] {Threei} f**k... can people really be THIS stupid?
[12:54] {Les} only an australian would whine like that
[12:55] {dino} roflol
[12:55] {magoo} dammit vad..i sent that in confidence
[12:55] {Les} and they are the a55hole end of the world when it comes to internet
[12:55] {RonS} me too dino...comeon 3i you know there is all kinds...
[12:56] {strider} TM
[12:56] {Threei} I do Ron, but I guess I am eternal optimist - I really hope there is almit to stupidity
[12:56] {Threei} and turns out there is none
[12:56] {dino} ass for every chair
[12:56] {Threei} seriously, here is copy/paste:
[12:56] {Threei} To be more profissioned I suggest you change to a room with sound. (why not
[12:56] {Threei} Paltalk?)
[12:56] {Threei} Otherwise it is not possible to follow your trades live.
[12:56] {Threei} profissioned?
[12:57] {nemo} have a drink Vad
[12:57] {Threei} he suggestst, you see
[12:57] {Threei} lol... never mind me, I am having bad hair day
[12:57] {dino} must have saw your spelling, lol
[12:57] {Threei} lol
[12:57] {RonS} ...for me, i could not follow that format...too distracting...my 2 cents
[12:57] {Threei} my thought too Ron
[12:58] {Threei} at some point we looked into asll formats that became popular
[12:58] {Threei} paltalk, skype, something else
[12:58] {Threei} mess
[12:59] {Les} nice call on TM
[12:59] {RonS} mags does gs have gas in the tank...new hod...
[12:59] {strider} missed it.......I can't use NASDAQ. Will not pass through orders for me.
[12:59] {Threei} hmm? why strider?
[12:59] {Threei} what does it report?
[12:59] {strider} I have no idea.
[12:59] {strider} Just doesn't fill.
[13:00] {Threei} but does your order go through at all?
[13:00] {strider} if no nas on BO , it won't pass through to other ECN.
[13:00] {Threei} so you have to cancel it later?
[13:00] {strider} Yes, shows up as pending order.
[13:00] {strider} Yes. have to cancel.
[13:00] {Threei} ok, then check this please:
[13:00] {Threei} right click on Level 2,
[13:00] {strider} k
[13:01] {strider} k
[13:01] {Threei} in the pop up woindow
[13:01] {strider} k
[13:01] {Threei} look at the right column
[13:01] {strider} y
[13:01] {Threei} titled:
[13:01] {Threei} Route Out
[13:01] {strider} y
[13:01] {strider} everything is checked.
[13:01] {Threei} and make sure all bioxes are checked
[13:01] {Threei} then your routing is configured correctly,
[13:02] {Threei} and if you see someone at the offer
[13:02] {Threei} but your order doesn't hit them
[13:02] {Threei} your quotes are delayed
[13:02] {Threei} you see a phantom,
[13:02] {strider} It never happens with ARCA
[13:02] {Threei} he is no longer there
[13:02] {Threei} that's truly weird then
[13:03] {Threei} they both swipe everything in sight
[13:03] {Threei} no difference in mechanics
[13:03] {strider} has always been the case. If NAS isn't at offer, it won't execute.
[13:03] {Threei} nothing like that here
[13:03] {Threei} asked trev to investigate?
[13:03] {strider} I know. It's just me.
[13:03] {strider} :(
[13:04] {strider} I ususally just use ARCA.
[13:04] {Threei} well, just use ARCA, what the difference
[13:04] {Threei} right
[13:04] {strider} Are fees the same?
[13:04] {Threei} but really... why would NASDAQ hate you specifically
[13:04] {strider} I think I dated his wife once.
[13:04] {Threei} ah
[13:05] {strider} or twice.
[13:05] {strider} OK...it was a year and a half.
[13:05] {strider} :)
[13:06] {nemo} rimm in bounce territory?
[13:06] {nemo} yep
[13:06] {nemo} frick me
[13:06] {strider} good call nemo:)
[13:06] {nemo} that and a quarter will get me a phone call
[13:08] {dptl} erts? Vad how about 19 break?
[13:09] {Threei} two things dp
[13:09] {Threei} first, I like it
[13:09] {Threei} second, do you really want to take my opinion today?
[13:10] {Threei} wow, look at the offers at 44 AIG
[13:10] {dptl} see...you make me think now....lol
[13:10] {nemo} interesting
[13:10] {RonS} ...you kept me from shorting jcp...
[13:10] {Threei} sorry :)
[13:10] {Threei} I am just realistic
[13:11] {Threei} some days I am a Midas
[13:11] {magoo} gs hpolding
[13:11] {Threei} some days I can't tade my way out of wet paper bag
[13:11] {magoo} hard entry but feels up
[13:11] {magoo} NOT in
[13:11] {Threei} and some days it rainst of course
[13:11] {dptl} i know ,i know...:)
[13:11] {Threei} it's not realistic to trade at high level every day (unless you are GS of course),
[13:12] {Threei} but it's realistic to spot not your day early
[13:12] {Threei} and stay humble
[13:12] {Threei} do no harm
[13:12] {Threei} stop a problem while it's small
[13:13] {Threei} Deal with the difficult while yet it is easy;
[13:13] {Threei} Deal with the big while yet it is small.
[13:13] {Threei} Tao Te Ching
[13:13] {Threei} Poem 63. Difficult and Easy
[13:14] {RonS} def of irony...Goldman Sachs’s Infrequent Losses Prove Client Focus, Cohn Says
[13:14] {Les} oxymoron
[13:14] {magoo} vad, is your wife returning today?
[13:14] {Threei} yes
[13:14] {Threei} why?
[13:14] {magoo} THATS IT:)
[13:14] {Threei} lol... nah
[13:14] {RonS} of course...
[13:14] {dptl} lol
[13:15] {Threei} yesterday was great trading day
[13:15] {Threei} and she still wasn't here
[13:15] {magoo} u missing my point, u all streesd from her approaching return
[13:15] {Threei} oh
[13:15] {Threei} rofl
[13:16] {Threei} GR) Greek PM: Freezes government hiring for 2010, cuts state hiring to 1 worker for every 5 departures
[13:16] {magoo} house trashed, cats missing, u havent showered since she left
[13:16] {RonS} rotfl
[13:16] {dptl} roflol
[13:16] {Threei} {workers} we do not intend to depart anywhere
[13:16] {Threei} you mean all this fun is coming to end?
[13:18] {Les} lol Freudian anger directed at his team
[13:18] {Threei} no anger
[13:19] {Threei} just normal knucle-whitening berserk fury
[13:20] {Threei} about that GS bragging, Ron
[13:20] {Threei} I honestly think they are so deep in coroporate/finance thinking,
[13:20] {Threei} they don't rwealize how it looks
[13:20] {Threei} to them it's a pure "look how good we are"
[13:21] {Threei} I had my share of close conversations with some of high finance executives
[13:21] {Threei} trust me their way of thinking is very different from average folk
[13:21] {Threei} and there is nothing sinister to it
[13:21] {Threei} it's simply different angle
[13:22] {Les} yeh Jesse has written of encounter with trading friend. wait I'll find it
[13:22] {Threei} when civil engineer looks at the city, he sees roads,intersections, traffic lights, bridges, tunnels
[13:22] {Les} http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/05/goldman-sachs-overreach-hubris-and.html
[13:22] {Threei} policeman sees crowd control, spots of drug trade etc
[13:23] {Threei} financial guy sees money flows
[13:23] {Les} we are traders with a conscious. Some like above don't care about anything else...
[13:23] {Threei} I saw that article Les
[13:23] {Threei} nothing of a kind in case of people I conversed with
[13:23] {Threei} no such callousness
[13:24] {Threei} they are normal people, with normal consciousness
[13:24] {Threei} they simply see the other side of financial realities
[13:24] {Threei} when it comes to their companies
[13:24] {Threei} one thing matyters:
[13:24] {Threei} performance
[13:24] {Threei} period
[13:25] {Threei} they may be ruthless or gentle, nothing will matter if they don't perform
[13:25] {Threei} no one will bring money under management because they are good people
[13:25] {Threei} money will come if they can perform
[13:26] {Threei} Now, try to envision this mindset
[13:26] {Les} clf 58 b/d?
[13:26] {Threei} see how this "we had 11 losing days in a year" looks digferent from that stadpoijt?
[13:27] {Les} big bids on CLF around 58
[13:27] {Threei} CLF is very volatile
[13:27] {Threei} smallshares if you go for it
[13:27] {Threei} stop above .15 or .20
[13:27] {nemo} congestion and then support down around .78 not much for Risk/Reward
[13:27] {Les} nah 200ma just under 58. will watch for further b/d
[13:30] {Les} damn wanting DNDN breakdown but .30 b/o was superb
[13:30] {RonS} "No reason to get excited", the thief he kindly spoke. "There are many here among us who feel life is but a joke. But you and I we've been through that, and this is not our fate. So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."
[13:32] {RonS} ...shorty...who wrote that?
[13:33] {nemo} All along the watchtower Bob Dylan
[13:33] {RonS} :)
[13:33] {nemo} Made famous by Jimmi
[13:33] {dino} jimmi dean
[13:33] {nemo} Hendrix
[13:34] {dino} i know
[13:34] {nemo} i know
[13:34] {dino} man, vad has put you all in a mood today
[13:34] {Threei} no kidding
[13:34] {Threei} sorry
[13:34] {nemo} we'll blame vad today
[13:34] {Threei} starying tomorrow I will cut throats for any distractions
[13:34] {Threei} so use all of today blaming me
[13:35] {RonS} ...and tomorrow, back to normal...blaming Les...
[13:35] {Threei} CLF broke
[13:35] {Threei} 1;1
[13:35] {nemo} you said stop at .15
[13:36] {nemo} ?
[13:36] {Threei} yes?
[13:36] {nemo} ok.
[13:36] {Threei} and it his .83
[13:36] {nemo} yep
[13:36] {Threei} so your point is?...
[13:36] {nemo} moth memory....didn't want to scroll up
[13:36] {Threei} {--- preparing for tomorrow's throat cutting
[13:36] {nemo} easy tiger
[13:36] {Threei} just poracticing
[13:37] {nemo} not your typing
[13:37] {Threei} never
[13:37] {Threei} that's my trademark
[13:39] {nemo} so higher today from this consolidation?
[13:40] {dino} out hog +.04, like trying to move a pig
[13:41] {dino} sheesh, now it goes
[13:41] {Threei} sure looks like that
[13:44] {dptl} l erts 19
[13:46] {dino} giddy-up
[13:46] {dino} ehthl .85
[13:46] {nemo} erts hits 19 an stops
[13:46] {dptl} yeah
[13:47] {nemo} where's your stop dp?
[13:48] {dptl} under .90
[13:49] {Threei} zles
[13:49] {Threei} Les
[13:49] {Threei} whatever you do, do not look at ACTG
[13:50] {strider} and don't think of a pink elepant.
[13:50] {strider} elephant.
[13:50] {Threei} hehe
[13:51] {Threei} ok, let's get a fresh look from aside
[13:51] {Threei} stewy,,, tell hinestly, do we look completely insane?
[13:51] {Threei} or there is hope?
[13:51] {Threei} for some of us al least
[13:54] {Threei} probably not...
[13:54] {Threei} All hope abandon, ye who enter here
[13:55] {RonS} ...he's trying to find hinestly in the dictionary...:D
[13:55] {Threei} oh
[13:56] {RonS} poof
[13:57] {RonS} long or short trigger for gs?
[13:57] {Threei} neither
[13:57] {Threei} no read
[13:57] {Threei} can do anything herte
[13:57] {Threei} AIG Reportedly approves $380M in bonuses for up to 3K managers below the top 100 execs
[13:57] {Threei} - States that plan will help the firm retain talented workers
[13:58] {RonS}
[13:58] {Threei} sigh
[13:59] {Threei} I can't believe amount of editing for today's log, lol
[13:59] {Threei} last thng I need is religious fanatics sending me hate mail
[13:59] {RonS} sorry...
[13:59] {Threei} nah, it's OK
[13:59] {Threei} today is FUBARed as it is
[13:59] {Threei} you can possibly add much more to it
[14:00] {Threei} can't
[14:00] {nemo} erts=aggravating
[14:00] {RonS} ...know where that saying came from 3i?
[14:00] {Threei} movie
[14:00] {nemo} military
[14:00] {Threei} cowboy marlboro and someone else
[14:00] {RonS} American GI's during WWII
[14:00] {Threei} :)
[14:01] {nemo} tear down that frickin wall erts!!!
[14:01] {nemo} broke the 50 ma
[14:01] {Threei} what we need is annoucement that EU re-thinks rescue package
[14:02] {Threei} next second we buy all VXX there is
[14:02] {Threei} next day we are all retired
[14:02] {RonS} now that would be funny
[14:02] {dptl} urbn?
[14:03] {Threei} you want one more ERTS?
[14:03] {dptl} lol....
[14:04] {magoo} AWIAV?
[14:04] {nemo} stand up routine
[14:04] {dptl} yeah
[14:06] {dptl} now shoot to .30 erts
[14:06] {nemo} boy does selling come in at 19 dp
[14:08] {_stewy} not insane, 3i.
[14:08] {ese} gotta go all.....still long ipxl.....it's choir time....or should that be "it's Miller time"
[14:09] {RonS} cya ese
[14:09] {nemo} all that volume and no break on erts, time to get out?
[14:09] {Les} ciao
[14:09] {nemo} holding well on inde drop though
[14:11] {Threei} take care ese
[14:12] {RonS} 3i, bp short 49 break?
[14:12] {Les} dndn losing ground
[14:12] {Threei} ok stewy... you just don't want to hurt out feelings {G}
[14:12] {Threei} BP... most likely
[14:12] {RonS} ok
[14:12] {Threei} maybe even .05
[14:13] {Threei} more aggreessive
[14:13] {Threei} with stop above .15
[14:13] {Threei} if market helps, 49 won't hold anyway
[14:13] {Threei} if it doesn't, neither will work
[14:13] {Threei} but risk is smaller
[14:14] {nemo} giddyup erts
[14:14] {dptl} s bp .04
[14:15] {dptl} stop .15
[14:15] {Threei} amazingly, now ERTS is tring to clkimb
[14:15] {Threei} shrug
[14:15] {Les} pivot support bp .92 s.03
[14:15] {nemo} sold a s&*% load at 19
[14:15] {Les} s dndn .35
[14:16] {dptl} stop to .94 erts
[14:16] {Threei} aren't you anal-retentive
[14:16] {nemo} who?
[14:16] {Threei} dp :)
[14:16] {dptl} lol
[14:16] {nemo} not a wide-receiver?
[14:16] {Threei} here goes BP
[14:18] {dptl} nah out +.05 erts
[14:18] {nemo} too aggravating?
[14:19] {Threei} 1:1 BP
[14:19] {Les} out dndn +.30
[14:19] {Threei} wooohooo... I hit something
[14:19] {magoo} in
[14:19] {magoo} bp
[14:19] {Les} out bp +.11 what a sweeeeeeet day
06[14:20] * Threei slaps Les around a bit with a large bucket full of green-colorode jealousy
[14:20] {dptl} out bp +.10
[14:20] {Threei} that aggressive .05 entry was good idea
[14:20] {nemo} in fcx .05
[14:20] {dptl} nemo you still in?
[14:20] {Threei} look how questionably 49 would have worked
06[14:20] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:20] {magoo} thats where i took
[14:21] {nemo} out .20
[14:21] {nemo} silly me
[14:21] {dptl} erts.......??
[14:21] {Les} yeh good entry bp. pivot support held
[14:21] {dptl} you mean.02
[14:22] {nemo} who
[14:22] {Threei} ERTS 1:1
[14:22] {dptl} yeah left 5 c on the table...but heck
[14:22] {Threei} dp and nemo... you are living proof that stewy was much too kind when said we were not insane
[14:22] {nemo} ?
[14:23] {Threei} your dialog is one of two deaf
[14:23] {nemo} ?
[14:23] {Threei} sigh... nevermind
[14:23] {dptl} lol
[14:24] {nemo} ?
[14:24] {Threei} {--- crying
06[14:24] * dptl slaps nemo around a bit with a large trout
[14:24] {Threei} thank you
06[14:25] * nemo slaps dptl around a bit with a large empty Grey Goose bottle
[14:25] {nemo} I'd whack you with a full one, but didn
[14:25] {nemo} didn't want to waste the vodka
[14:25] {dptl} i prefer Russian standard
[14:25] {nemo} gasoline?
[14:25] {dptl} :)
[14:27] {Threei} AIG...
[14:27] {Threei} 43 break for short
[14:28] {Threei} ugh
[14:28] {Threei} not in a short list
[14:28] {strider} can't short
[14:28] {dptl} .20c stop?
[14:28] {nemo} pissa
[14:28] {dptl} oh
[14:28] {magoo} DNDN maybe vad?
[14:28] {Threei} 47 shirt?
[14:28] {Threei} short
[14:29] {magoo} roflol...i was trying figure out what u meant , no kidding
[14:29] {Threei} I think so
[14:29] {jfjf64} kgc .85 break
[14:30] {magoo} depends onn mkt imo
[14:30] {RonS} clf 57 break = yesterday's gap fill to 56?
[14:31] {Threei} no slightest idea Ron
[14:31] {Threei} DNDN, cover half
[14:31] {Threei} scalopers get out
[14:31] {dptl} nrg?
[14:32] {Threei} nah
[14:32] {Threei} too narrow
[14:32] {dptl} ah...s .19...
[14:32] {Threei} DNDN, 1/4 more here
[14:33] {Threei} scalopers?? oh boy
[14:33] {Threei} my typing hirts new lows... and you thought it was not possible
[14:33] {Threei} day is actually positive, trades wise
[14:34] {jfjf64} get ready mags
[14:34] {Threei} it's just that it had much bigger potential had I tuned into it in the morning
[14:34] {Raven} yes I will ... sorry
[14:34] {Raven} lol ... wrong damn window
[14:34] {jfjf64} lot going on in AM
[14:35] {jfjf64} LOL
[14:35] {magoo} vad, u pay raven to edit?
[14:35] {Threei} no chance... no one will do that, for any pay
[14:36] {Threei} ok DNDN,
[14:36] {Threei} last cover here
[14:36] {jfjf64} COMON KGC
[14:36] {Threei} .55
[14:36] {Threei} +.45
[14:36] {Threei} yess
06[14:36] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large roll of cash
[14:36] {jfjf64} nice vad
06[14:36] * Threei slaps jfjf64 around a bit with a large roll of cash
[14:36] {Threei} who else is out there, hiding under the rocks
06[14:37] * nemo me
[14:37] {magoo} HEY, it was my spot lol
06[14:37] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a large didn't decide what yet
[14:37] {dptl} stop to above .25 nrg
[14:37] {Threei} lol mags
[14:37] {Threei} you played it?
[14:37] {nemo} sorry mags....................not
[14:38] {magoo} sure, stuill sh
[14:40] {magoo} thinking .30 area
[14:40] {nemo} on what mags?
[14:40] {magoo} sh DNDN
[14:41] {jfjf64} kgc kgc kgc
[14:42] {magoo} cov .33 ty vad, + .67 FL
[14:42] {Threei} welcome
[14:42] {Threei} finally I hit serious one
[14:42] {magoo} HEY, it was my spot LOL
[14:42] {Threei} whatever
[14:43] {Threei} sniff sniff
[14:43] {Threei} you can have it
[14:43] {Threei} I will just sit in the corner
[14:43] {magoo} [14:29] {magoo} DNDN maybe vad?
[14:43] {Threei} with my bottle of beer
[14:43] {nemo} beer?
[14:43] {Threei} yes
[14:43] {magoo} [14:38] {@Threei} lol mags
[14:43] {magoo} [14:38] {@Threei} you played it?
[14:43] {magoo} [14:38] {magoo} sure, stuill sh
[14:43] {dptl} nah..out +.01 nrg
[14:44] {Les} dndn
[14:44] {Les} wrong window
[14:45] {Les} nice call on DNDN there. was watching south park with kids.
[14:45] {nemo} wow, let the kids watch south park
[14:45] {Les} I explain it to them
[14:46] {jfjf64} 1/1 kgc
[14:46] {shorty} Back are we in anything?
[14:46] {Les} The money's been made man
[14:46] {Les} we are finished
[14:46] {shorty} thx,bye
[14:47] {Threei} ugh, you missed this DND short shorty?
[14:47] {jfjf64} out
[14:47] {Threei} DNDN
[14:47] {Threei} was beautiful call by mags
[14:47] {_stewy} and i'm stuck to the wall...
[14:47] {Threei} lol
[14:48] {Les} ?
[14:48] {Threei} come on, come unglued already
[14:48] {dino} clf sm l .50
[14:48] {shorty} Have a drink
[14:48] {shorty} dino! I missed it, I was too slow.
[14:50] {dino} hum dee dum
[14:50] {magoo} christ shorty, u wee born (named) to short and u missed them
[14:51] {magoo} man my .33 exit vad was it
[14:51] {shorty} I was away magoo. I love to short, and I missed a good one.
[14:51] {Threei} yup, nailed reversal
[14:51] {magoo} i dont think it printed .29
[14:52] {magoo} to bad we didnt reverse it
[14:52] {Threei} no, .31 is lowest print
[14:52] {Les} where'd you short mags?
[14:52] {magoo} 47 to 46.33 FL
[14:52] {magoo} the whole room did
[14:52] {Les} sweet
[14:53] {Les} what? the whole room went nearly 70 cents?
[14:53] {Les} c'mon, we can't all be like you...
[14:53] {magoo} sure
[14:54] {Les} well that would have been icing on cake but there are no complaints from me today
[14:56] {RonS} White House: Obama 'Deeply Frustrated' Gulf Leak Not Plugged 05/11 12:55 PM
[14:59] {Les} RIG
[14:59] {Les} s.98
[15:00] {Les} out +.22 sweeeeeeeeeeeet
[15:00] {Les} in my best eric cartman voice
[15:01] {dino} stopped clf
[15:01] {dino} -.32
[15:01] {magoo} vad..ROCK or ROT last hour?
[15:02] {Threei} rot
[15:02] {Les} rot
[15:02] {Les} oops
[15:02] {dino} bet is up
[15:02] {dino} back in 10
[15:02] {magoo} looking ugly hrere
[15:02] {Les} stupid me, looking for a ticker
[15:06] {nemo} if indexes start dropping and fcx b/d .50
[15:07] {dino} cf sm l .00
[15:08] {nemo} whoa dropped to quick
[15:12] {Threei} AIG worked too... unobtainable for us though
[15:12] {dino} clf sm l .00
[15:13] {magoo} just realized we missed the VXX move
[15:13] {Threei} true but I seriously have hard time reading it
[15:14] {Threei} darn thing has rare ability to shake out 9 out of 10 entries that eventually prove right, lol
[15:15] {Threei} all in all, did we have decent day today?
[15:15] {Les} bp .75 b/d
[15:15] {nemo} ?
[15:16] {Threei} aside of nemo who has his finger stuck in that question mark key
[15:16] {nemo} !
[15:18] {dino} these daily individual stock moves of 4-7% are something....
[15:18] {dino} they do a year in a day
[15:19] {RonS} ...it's like bull riding dino
[15:19] {Threei} VXX feels like spiking
[15:19] {magoo} indicative of a trend change...and not for the better
[15:19] {Threei} and drops
[15:19] {Threei} and spikes
[15:19] {Threei} see how tough this one is?
[15:20] {jfjf64} very tough
[15:22] {Les} RIG trying to hold .75
[15:23] {Les} stopped rig ouch
[15:23] {nemo} got a boo boo?
[15:23] {Les} I lost my binky
[15:23] {nemo} dino left?
[15:24] {Threei} wat did you try to do with RIG?
[15:24] {Les} was short .74. stop .90 but it jumped up to .97
[15:25] {jfjf64} callin it aday friends see ya
[15:25] {nemo} get some vaseline Les
[15:28] {Threei} take care jf
[15:28] {Les} crap RIG was crawling up support didn't see it. Try to avoid support zones
[15:29] {Les} fcx .50
[15:31] {Les} s fcx .48 rig .74 smallish shares
[15:32] {Threei} (US) Congressman Brad Sherman (D-CA) suggests putting a tax on high frequency trading to discourage reckless behavior (related XLF ITG NITE GS IAP.UK DB1.GE LSE.UK )
[15:32] {Les} put tax on congressional suggestions
[15:33] {Les} everytime they open their mouths
[15:33] {Threei} good idea
[15:33] {Threei} {--- adding mr Sherman to the list of idiots
[15:33] {Les} what smooth running of govt. would follow...
[15:34] {Les} out +.06 fcx pulling teeth again
[15:35] {Les} out -.06 rig
[15:37] {Threei} GLD Spot Gold moves to new all time highs
[15:37] {Threei} great success of montetary policy
[15:38] {Les} small l clf .90
[15:50] {shorty} good night all.
[15:51] {Threei} take care shorty
[15:51] {dino} cya
[15:51] {Les} ciao shorty, although it can't be night where you are, can it?
[15:52] {shorty} no....14:00 hrs
[15:52] {Les} little nap time for you is it...
[15:52] {shorty} dino good news...I can officially handle your stop loss.
[15:53] {Les} stopped CLF -.10 friggin dog
[15:53] {dino} lots of pain for only 31, 1, and 3 down
[15:54] {Les} day finished a dog. went back to the trough too many times
[15:55] {dptl} good evening all
[15:56] {Les} ciao
[15:56] {dino} gj shorty
[15:56] {dino} cya dp
[15:56] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening
[15:56] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[15:56] {nemo} gnite
[15:56] {magoo} va WAIT
[15:57] {Les} say g'day to the missus for us.
[15:58] {dino} out cf .95 -.05
[15:58] {_stewy} entertaining. see ya in the morn
[15:58] {magoo} night all
[15:58] {dino} out clf -.15
[15:59] {Les} night all
[15:59] {dino} cya les
[15:59] {dino} well theres the 3 days in one, -100 to +80 to -35

Monday, May 10, 2010

May 10 2010

"Can do no wrong" day - every call worked perfectly, by me ad room members. LVS short for 35 cents, then long for a scalp, F long, MOS short, VCI long, AIG long, a few more - all in all, very active and nicely profitable day.


Session Time: Mon May 10 00:00:00 2010

[08:00] {magoo} god dam gap
[08:00] {magoo} this is how mkts frustrate
[08:00] {magoo} were way due for a bounce, but now u gotta chase ridicoulous
[08:20] {Les} crap I managed to quit Friday holding 200 shares of ESI
[08:20] {Les} doofus
[08:21] {Les} wake up ya bums! :)
[08:24] {strider} .
[08:24] {nemo} ?
[08:24] {strider} !
[08:25] {nemo} crissakes...times like these you wonder how anyone can be an investor
[08:26] {strider} looks like we're in a by-god buill market.
[08:26] {strider} bull
[08:26] {nemo} yeah Bernanke East
[08:27] {nemo} Europes doing it's own quantitative easing which mens liquidity which means bull
[08:27] {strider} whatever. Just so long as it's readable.
[08:28] {nemo} well with this massive jump the first hour is likely to be crazy, and then not much to act on
[08:29] {strider} GS up $5
[08:29] {nemo} everything is up huge
[08:29] {strider} BP not.
[08:29] {strider} up a buck, coming back down.
[08:29] {nemo} yeah...understandable $ down huge
[08:30] {magoo} remember, some folks want OUT on this pop after last week
[08:30] {magoo} and trend has changed, bear is back
[08:31] {nemo} yeah, probably, but Europe just committed to a quantitative easing program bigger than what the US intitiated
[08:32] {Threei} because sucide is such a fun thing to do in a company, right?
[08:32] {magoo} HUH?
[08:32] {nemo} you mean among friends
[08:32] {nemo} Yeah, this just kicks the can
[08:32] {nemo} down the road
[08:32] {strider} short BP .56
[08:32] {Threei} well, market doesn't care about what happens in 5 years
[08:33] {Les} nor do politicians
[08:33] {magoo} vads, any news F?
[08:33] {magoo} also check BAC please
[08:33] {Threei} troubles are preven ted from hitting immediately, money'sa coing in the market - let's go up... in 5 years we will tarde differenbt marketr
[08:34] {Les} sounds good from daytrading perspective
[08:34] {Threei} nothing on either
[08:34] {Les} not sure about mum and pop
[08:34] {magoo} they r good type 1
[08:34] {Threei} why do you ask about those two inb particular, I don't see aything special there
[08:35] {strider} out .42
[08:35] {magoo} ah graasshoppwer
[08:35] {magoo} but u will
[08:35] {strider} way too soon.
[08:37] {Threei} a bit, yeah
[08:37] {Threei} why not partial?
[08:37] {magoo} aussie bob trimbolie?
[08:37] {strider} should have.
[08:37] {Threei} that was a good setup
[08:37] {Threei} and BP's hweadlines are godawful
[08:37] {strider} I know.
[08:38] {strider} Do-over!
[08:38] {magoo} see F vad, i took 05 big
[08:38] {magoo} scalp out
[08:38] {magoo} nice trade
[08:39] {Threei} I have nothing left to say, you said it all yourself
[08:41] {Threei} German Chancellor Angela Merkel says this action was necessary to fight a Euro short selling syndicate. "The eurozone's member states showed yesterday that we have a common political will to do everything for the stability of our common currency," she said. "This is a determined and united message to those who think that they can weaken Europe."
[08:41] {Threei} oh boy...
[08:42] {Threei} world is so full of idiots these days, I hinestly think they multiply with triple speed vs, let's say 10 years ago
[08:42] {Les} well after her refusal to bail out Greece, she needs to make some crap excuse for spending her taxpayers money
[08:44] {Threei} hard to be,ieve anyone can seriously think it's a battle against shorting sindycate
[08:47] {Les} yeh, gotta ask how many times they can use that lame excuse before public tires of it
[08:52] {dptl} good morning
[08:58] {ese} morning.....
[08:59] {ese} talk about your wild ride with the futures quote
[08:59] {Threei} dp, ese :)
[08:59] {ese} up 400pts at one time....wow...never seen that
[08:59] {Threei} lol
[08:59] {ese} hey vad
[08:59] {Threei} remember Fri:
[08:59] {Threei} "who would want to be long into this weekend"
[09:00] {Les} this drunk idiot that didn't close his long trade before quitting
[09:01] {dino} gm all, inflate it away
[09:01] {ese} Casino Royal
[09:02] {strider} gm all
[09:02] {ese} ST
[09:04] {strider} ese:)
[09:04] {dino} tlt taking a beating
[09:07] {Threei} dino, strider
[09:07] {strider} :)
[09:10] {Threei} ok, I am planless
[09:10] {Threei} the only thing I can think of is:
[09:10] {dino} going to leave one heck of a gap in charts
[09:10] {Threei} skip first hectic minutes, then start looking for short setups
[09:11] {dino} also, above 11151, 2031 gaps; 5/3
[09:26] {_stewy} good morning, Vad
[09:26] {jfjf64} mornin boys
[09:26] {shorty} good morning
[09:26] {Threei} morning stewy
[09:27] {Threei} jf, shorty
[09:27] {_stewy} thanks for the trial
[09:27] {RonS} gm all...
[09:27] {Threei} sure thing
[09:27] {lasertrev} gm
[09:27] {Threei} hope market is orderly enough to find something worthy
[09:27] {Threei} Ron, trev :)
[09:27] {Les} fas
[09:28] {Threei} BP is one of short candidates
[09:29] {Les} jeeezuz
[09:29] {Threei} sudfdenly found religion this morning Les?
[09:29] {Les} in financials, yes
[09:31] {Threei} F sharp pullback
[09:34] {strider} GS pullback
[09:35] {strider} more
[09:35] {strider} big m ore
[09:35] {Threei} Short Setup: WFC .60 break
[09:35] {Threei} stop above .70
[09:36] {Threei} grr, too fast
[09:36] {Threei} let's let it bounce
[09:36] {Threei} OK
[09:36] {Threei} same setup
[09:36] {Threei} if stays below .70
[09:36] {Threei} invalidated
[09:37] {magoo} l .70
[09:38] {magoo} out
[09:38] {strider} BP spike
[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS .40 break
[09:40] {Threei} stop above .50 for scalpers, .55 for day traders
[09:42] {dino} watch pin action start
[09:44] {Threei} ok market, time to acknowledge gravity
[09:48] {Threei} my stop is above .50 for LVS, but on a profit side not a scalp for me if works
[09:48] {Threei} capable of much more
[09:48] {Threei} EU's Bolwes: EU hedge fund vote delayed to May 17, as EU parliament needs added time for revisions
[09:50] {Threei} so far so good, lower highs
[09:50] {Threei} LVS 1:1
[09:50] {Threei} half out
[09:51] {Threei} stop to above .45
[09:51] {Threei} textbook trailing would have been .40 but I want to give it just a tad more room in this volatile environment
[09:51] {Threei} 1:2, 1/4 more out
[09:52] {Threei} stop to breakeven
[09:52] {shorty} ty Threei
[09:52] {Threei} welcome sir
[09:53] {jfjf64} nice nice
[09:53] {Threei} does it mean you played double lot?
[09:53] {Threei} 1:3
[09:53] {Threei} out in full
[09:53] {Threei} .05
[09:53] {jfjf64} yes yes
[09:53] {Threei} lol
[09:53] {Threei} +.35
[09:53] {jfjf64} ty
[09:54] {jfjf64} ty
[09:54] {Threei} gravity does exist
[09:55] {Threei} XOM CEO: Reiterates support for carbon tax rather than cap and trade mechanism - CNBC
[09:55] {Threei} sheep
[09:57] {magoo} can lvs lose 23 vad?
[09:58] {Threei} if market continues down
[09:58] {Threei} and market is at the fork right now
[09:58] {Threei} can chose any direction with equal odds
[09:58] {Threei} so I am on sideline, letting it show its hand
[09:58] {Threei} see?
[09:58] {strider} BP spike
[09:58] {dino} elx l .00
[10:00] {Threei} hmmm
[10:00] {Threei} strange
[10:01] {Threei} market sharp dive but LVS stayed up there
[10:01] {Threei} starting to think about long on it
[10:01] {magoo} dunno, lvs treacherous
[10:01] {Threei} what isn;'t? :)
[10:02] {Threei} Long Setup: LVS .20 break if stays above .10
[10:02] {Threei} big offer at .20 too
[10:04] {Threei} let's modify it
[10:04] {Threei} .10 break
[10:04] {Threei} stop under 23
[10:05] {Threei} needs a little market help but overall, looks ready for bounce to me
[10:05] {magoo} in
[10:06] {Threei} half ou or scap near .20 decide for yorselft
[10:06] {Threei} hard to tell
[10:06] {strider} out +.09 LVS
[10:06] {Threei} half for me
[10:06] {Threei} stop to under b/e
[10:06] {shorty} ty THreei, again
[10:06] {Threei} scalpers win this tiome
[10:07] {Threei} welcome
[10:08] {Threei} Long Setup: F .25
[10:08] {Threei} if stays above .20 for scalpers, .15 for day traders
[10:08] {magoo} in
[10:08] {nemo} tie
[10:08] {Threei} EUR/USD Euro continues to retrace from earlier session highs; Moves back below 1.2850 level
[10:10] {Threei} F1:1 for scalpers
[10:10] {strider} out 1/2
[10:11] {shorty} out 1:1 ty
[10:11] {Threei} 1:1 for day traders
[10:11] {Threei} can I go home?
[10:11] {shorty} no, I am not done
[10:11] {RonS} bp running for some reason...
[10:11] {Threei} and I have to suffer?
06[10:12] * strider slaps Threei around a bit with a large cardboard cutout of his wife
[10:12] {shorty} lol
[10:12] {Threei} no news BP
[10:12] {Threei} lol
[10:12] {Threei} anyone here lives in NJ?
[10:12] {Threei} (US) New Jersey democratic legislators reportedly introduce millionaire tax (related MUNIS )
[10:13] {RonS} ...is that living?
[10:13] {Threei} ok... resides
[10:13] {dino} bwld sm l .96
[10:14] {dino} they are all moving to pennsylvania
[10:17] {strider} long ELX .99
[10:20] {RonS} euro spoiling this party...needs to stabilize and bounce for market to extend gain
[10:27] {RonS} 3i, do you see a MOS short entry?
[10:28] {Threei} .15 break...
[10:28] {Threei} kind of 51/49
[10:28] {RonS} txs
[10:35] {Threei} a bit strange spot here
[10:36] {Threei} market feels like down to me still,
[10:36] {Threei} but I see no setups to utilize
[10:36] {strider} BP
[10:36] {Threei} and these little jumps up and down thow the read off
[10:37] {Threei} looking at it strider
[10:37] {Threei} hoestly, more feels like reversing
[10:37] {Threei} both setups are valid:
[10:37] {Threei} .40 break for short
[10:37] {Threei} and .50 break for long
[10:38] {Threei} but I'd rather go for .50 and long
[10:38] {Threei} even now as it drops, I don't like it
[10:38] {Threei} wouldn't short that .40
[10:39] {Threei} acrually, .40 break
[10:39] {Threei} as long
[10:39] {Threei} I am getting inyerested
[10:40] {Threei} a bit late eh
[10:40] {Threei} thinking to slow today
[10:40] {Threei} too
[10:40] {Threei} anyone was faster on their feet than I was?
[10:41] {Les} huh?
[10:41] {Threei} sigh... never mind
[10:41] {Les} just kidding. been trying to get IB on the line for account closure
[10:41] {Threei} struder, agree that short was not the way to go?
[10:41] {Threei} my gut was right
[10:42] {strider} I'm still thinking it is short. not in.
[10:42] {strider} lower high
[10:42] {Threei} down the road, on new setup, could be
[10:44] {Les} out ESI +1.07 from Friday. that was a mistake holding, but happily finished ok
[10:44] {dino} vxx l .25
06[10:44] * Threei slaps Les around a bit with a large neon CASINO sign
[10:45] {Les} yeh yeh
[10:45] {strider} out ELX .90 -.09
[10:46] {dino} out vxx .37, +.12
[10:50] {Les} little bounce in foreign banks. CS short?
[10:52] {Les} CS bouncing off 100ma here
[10:54] {Les} s CS .22 half
[10:54] {Threei} (US) Fed's Plosser: Europe has severe challenges, new EU package may alleviate concerns - CNBC interview
[10:54] {Threei} - Major concern of the US prompting reopening of swap lines was contagion. Unclear whether package will be enough to halt contagion.
[10:54] {Threei} - Plosser's outlook on US economy is "still pretty upbeat," recovery is becoming more broad based, believes job market has turned.
[10:56] {strider} BP struggling at .30
[10:56] {dptl} itmn?
[10:57] {ese} hows it goin.....had to go get blood work done....nice one with esi les
[10:57] {shorty} Morning ese
[10:57] {shorty} Good calls by Threei this morning.
[10:57] {Threei} not sure dp
[10:58] {Threei} ITMN is a wounded antelope
[10:58] {dptl} got long .62
[10:58] {ese} hey shorty
[10:58] {Threei} something happens with its FDA troubles, it will be a big mover
[10:58] {dptl} stop under .50
[10:58] {Threei} nothing haooens - it will sit there, making slow waves with the market, sometimes moving on rumors
[10:59] {Les} thanks ese, ain't normally done like that though. who'd of thought the EU'd be pulling $1T out of its pocket Sunday?
[10:59] {Threei} I am sorry... "ITS" pocket??
[10:59] {Les} or out of our pockets
[10:59] {Les} I stand corrected
[10:59] {Threei} it's your pocket :)
[10:59] {Les} yeh, wondering how much CS and UBS are ponying up
[10:59] {Threei} and fern's
[11:00] {Threei} and KS's
[11:00] {Threei} and a bit of ours
[11:00] {Les} vad CS .40 break?
[11:00] {Les} cs stopped
[11:01] {Threei} sorry, I didn't even understand what you mean on it
[11:05] {dino} idsa
[11:06] {Threei} market feels like cotton wool
[11:06] {nemo} ?
[11:06] {Threei} no spring in the step
[11:06] {Threei} wobble
[11:06] {strider} Is that a special kind of russian sheep?
[11:06] {Threei} never saw one up close
[11:07] {nemo} well it sprung pretty good out of the gate, so for it to meander is pretty normal
[11:07] {shorty} ZION Threei
[11:07] {strider} BP trying to lose 49
[11:08] {Threei} I am impartial in that conflict shorty
[11:10] {dino} idsa sm l .80
[11:10] {strider} cover BP +.51
[11:10] {strider} at .90
[11:10] {Threei} wtg
[11:10] {dino} gj strider
[11:10] {strider} thanks
[11:10] {Threei} did better job at reading it than I
[11:11] {shorty} Nice
[11:13] {dino} these big gap up days aren't my thing
[11:13] {Threei} and this one is not a "big"
[11:13] {Threei} this one is "humongous"
[11:13] {dino} idsa getting wide
[11:14] {Threei} market looks heavy to me
[11:15] {Threei} http://photography.realitytrader.com/2010/05/few-delicious-landscapes.html
[11:19] {shorty} I like those pictures Threei.
[11:19] {Threei} ty
[11:19] {Threei} {--- living in paradise and misses no chance to show off
[11:20] {shorty} Do you do any fishing on the cost Threei?
[11:20] {Threei} no, dp does for both of us
06[11:20] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large wild sockeye salmon
[11:20] {shorty} Lucky
[11:20] {Threei} I do crabbing and shrimping though
[11:22] {Threei} no read on anything
[11:22] {Threei} waiting
[11:22] {shorty} When my parents were young they use to pick up lobster traps that washed up on the beach after a big storm.
[11:22] {Les} thanks for weekend reading vad
[11:22] {dptl} :)
[11:23] {Threei} I am a master of provoking hatemail, les
[11:23] {Les} saw vid on HFT and ignored it myself. good to read serious material helping understanding
[11:23] {shorty} Why would you get hatemail THreei
[11:23] {Threei} I have this idiotic manner of debunking some of popular conspiracy theories, shorty
[11:24] {shorty} lol
[11:24] {dino} bwld stopped
[11:24] {Threei} this weekend I got myself into fight with HFT haters
[11:25] {RonS} ...he jumped into the dark pool...:)
[11:25] {shorty} What is HFT?
[11:25] {Threei} all of whom invariably are in love with zeroknowledge.com
[11:25] {Threei} high frequency trading
[11:25] {Threei} algorithmic trading by large firms
[11:25] {Threei} exploiting inefficiencies measured in milliseconds
[11:25] {strider} al gore has no rhythm.
[11:26] {Threei} rofl
[11:26] {Threei} as a notoriously bad stand-uo ceomedian, I am not sure by laugh means much stridere
[11:26] {Threei} but I liked it
[11:26] {Threei} by = my
[11:26] {shorty} Ahhh... Long term investors seem to hate me because I am trying to day trade.
[11:26] {strider} thank you, thank you very much.
[11:27] {strider} want me to say it agian?
[11:27] {strider} again
[11:27] {strider} It's even funnier the second time.
[11:27] {Threei} no doubt
[11:27] {Threei} especially for guraffes
[11:27] {strider} I'll wait.
[11:27] {Threei} girraffess
[11:27] {strider} catch you off guard.
[11:28] {shorty} What about those offers on BP Threei?
[11:29] {Threei} ?
[11:29] {Threei} what offers?
[11:29] {shorty} 49.29
[11:29] {Threei} gosh
[11:29] {shorty} Look like a reversal?
[11:29] {Threei} we are good 10 cents away from there
[11:30] {shorty} ok'
[11:30] {Threei} looks like shapeless mess to me
[11:32] {Threei} looks bounce ready now
[11:34] {Threei} anyone who hasn't had Monday dose of idiocy yet, read this:
[11:34] {Threei} ECB's Nowotny: Market reaction proves EU took the right steps, package is a major strike against speculation
[11:34] {Threei} BP looks ripe for taking profit if you went for bounce
[11:35] {shorty} shoulda, coulda, woulda, but didn't
[11:35] {Threei} that was perfect timing
[11:35] {Threei} no official call though
[11:39] {dino} always the speculators, never the politicians and spending
[11:39] {Threei} no
[11:41] {Threei} it's like this: good caring governments guaranteeing loans, bad banks doing predatory loaning and innocent customers trustingly borrowing beyond means of repayment
[11:50] {Threei} ummm
[11:50] {Threei} VCI
[11:50] {Threei} nice breakout chart, but very thin
[11:50] {magoo} look at ENCO vad
[11:51] {Threei} weirdo
[11:51] {Threei} reported hotrible earnings
[11:52] {Threei} some new orders
[11:52] {Threei} shrug
[11:52] {Threei} Long Setup: VCI 34 break half lot if stays above .85
[11:52] {Threei} half lot!
[11:53] {Threei} I am serious mags, this one can hurt badly
[11:53] {magoo} GS dying here
[11:53] {shorty} lol
[11:53] {Threei} 1:1
[11:53] {Threei} lol
[11:54] {Threei} 1:2
[12:09] {Threei} everyone's asleep?
[12:09] {magoo} no
[12:10] {shorty} not yet
[12:10] {Threei} wanted to offer a play for your attention
[12:10] {Threei} but afraid to wake you up
[12:10] {shorty} VCI was probably your best call Threei.
[12:11] {Threei} Long Setup: AIG 41 break half lot
[12:11] {Threei} if stays above .90
[12:13] {magoo} in
[12:15] {magoo} dont rinse
[12:15] {Threei} NVAX Hearing Roth Capital making positive comments
[12:15] {Threei} why not wait for break? 41 is solid chart resistance
[12:16] {dptl} what stock?
[12:16] {Threei} AIG
[12:16] {dptl} ty
[12:17] {magoo} looked good to go
[12:21] {ese} in aig .02
[12:21] {Threei} NVAX Hearing Roth Capital making positive comments, price target raised to $8 (timing uncertain)
[12:21] {Threei} 8?
[12:21] {Threei} really?
[12:22] {magoo} no one believes?
[12:23] {Threei} some did but sold at 2.70 {G}
[12:23] {Threei} DISH CEO: A strong Dish Netork is good for Tivo, makes sense to work together with Tivo - conf call comments (21.88, +0.58, 2.72%) (related TIVO )
[12:27] {ese} wann see aig make a move here or i'm out
[12:29] {Threei} it crawls up against the market
[12:29] {ese} thank you ......out aig .12
[12:29] {Threei} welcome
[12:29] {ese} +.10
[12:29] {dino} idsa out .13, +1.33
[12:29] {ese} tks vad
[12:29] {ese} nice dino
[12:29] {dino} thx
[12:30] {ese} ouuuuu interesting dn tick aig
[12:30] {Threei} very
[12:32] {dino} fire l .50
[12:32] {RonS} out mos +.65
[12:33] {dino} gj
[12:33] {Threei} beautiful
[12:33] {RonS} thx
[12:45] {dptl} lvs .20 short?
[12:46] {Threei} not sure
[12:46] {Threei} kind of:
[12:47] {Threei} if market drops sharply and LVS gives a little delay for entry, yes
[12:47] {Threei} otherwise, 50/50
[12:47] {dptl} ty
[12:49] {Threei} where are all the girls today?
[12:49] {Les} I'm here
[12:49] {shorty} Maybe mother's day hangover?
[12:50] {Threei} lol
06[12:50] * Threei pictures all girls drinking vodka right from the bottles on Mothers day, kids applauding
[12:51] {Les} kids laughing and iphoning images to friends just as likely...
[12:51] {shorty} lol
[12:51] {Les} BP .75 b/d?
[12:52] {dino} out fire +.12
[12:52] {dino} lol, dino was picturing belly shots
[12:53] {Threei} probably Les
[12:57] {Threei} BP should be good for more than scalp
[13:01] {Threei} LVS 1:1
[13:02] {Les} finnies cracking
[13:02] {Threei} BP 1:1
[13:02] {Threei} beautiful trading today guys
[13:05] {dptl} didn't take lvs...took cat instead
[13:05] {Threei} whatever... worked just as well
[13:05] {dptl} :)
[13:05] {Threei} but since I have no camera installed in your office, not am I a mind-reader, I had to commend you on the pick you announced
[13:06] {Threei} not = nor
[13:06] {dptl} i kinda hesitated on lvs....still thinking to mach ,lol
[13:07] {dptl} to much
[13:07] {Threei} well, sooner or later headaches and migranes directly linked to thinking will get to yopu
[13:07] {Threei} look at me... ni thinking at all
[13:07] {Threei} ask me at any moment what I am thinking about
[13:08] {Threei} and answer always will be "nothing"
[13:08] {Threei} BP 1:1
[13:08] {shorty} out BP thx Les
[13:08] {Threei} I want to see how this week plays out of course, but so far my working scenario is that this EU "salvation" will eventually be ignored by the market, and down we go
[13:09] {Les} what?
[13:09] {Les} the speculators win?
[13:09] {Threei} damn them
[13:09] {Threei} but yeah
[13:09] {Threei} shoot them, poison them, burn them on the stakes - they always win...
[13:10] {RonS} viva le Inquisition!
[13:10] {shorty} I hate speculators. No Threei, do it the French way. Burn them while they are sleeping.
[13:11] {Threei} ok, even with girls not being here I am not touching this one
[13:11] {RonS} euro 1.2815 was support, let's see if it is resistance for direction...
[13:13] {shorty} A bit over the top, sorry.
[13:14] {RonS} ?
[13:14] {RonS} euro new lod
[13:15] {Threei} BP over 1:2
[13:15] {Les} and out ty
[13:15] {RonS} gs looking to go neg
[13:15] {Les} some bounce hunting coming
[13:16] {Threei} BP 1:3, over and oput
[13:17] {Threei} very nice spot Les
[13:17] {Threei} now if you tell me you skipped it but took GS instead, I will throw something at you
[13:17] {nemo} virtually of course
[13:17] {Threei} one dp is quite enough
[13:17] {RonS} ...no, cat...
[13:17] {Threei} of course
[13:18] {Threei} lol Ron
[13:23] {nemo} l cat .85
[13:29] {nemo} ick the frickin cat!
[13:29] {nemo} kick
[13:30] {Threei} scary idea
[13:30] {Threei} give me a few, I'll show you why
[13:30] {nemo} 1/2 out
[13:32] {Threei} nice
[13:35] {nemo} stop is .90
[13:36] {RonS} ...euro dancing w/ 1.2815 and edging higher...
[13:36] {Threei} http://photography.realitytrader.com/2010/05/black-cat.html
[13:36] {RonS} live fx ticker at dailyfx.com
[13:36] {Threei} (US) Fed's Kocherlakota: Banks must be taxed in a way that helps to limit risk; no way to eliminate bailouts
[13:36] {Threei} - a bailout tax can help deal with 'too big to fail' issue
[13:37] {Threei} click to enlarge and look in his eyes
[13:37] {nemo} really, how does a tax limit system risk
[13:37] {dino} really, lol, we tell you up front you are too big to fail
[13:38] {RonS} ...black cat are kinda spooky, but not as weird as a minx
[13:40] {nemo} stopped cat
[13:40] {nemo} good thing
[13:43] {magoo} GS crushed
[13:43] {RonS} euro re-broaches 1.28...resistance held...
[13:48] {RonS} ...my tape has just lowed to a crawl...does anyone else see something similar?...
[13:48] {Threei} on what?
[13:48] {RonS} lowed=slowed
[13:49] {RonS} on whatever ever you have to see market volume...
[13:49] {Threei} seems same
[13:49] {Threei} no changes vs, let;;s say 10 min ago
[13:50] {RonS} ok...i get nervous with a slow market...seems to presage a big move...
[13:50] {Threei} sometimes, yes
[13:57] {Threei} GS...
[13:57] {Threei} SEC and various exchanges have agreed on a 'structural framework' to deal with circuit breakers and 'erroneous' transactions
[13:57] {Threei} - SEC: "This morning, SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro had a constructive meeting with the leaders of six exchanges the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ, BATS, Direct Edge, ISE and CBOE and the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority to discuss the causes of Thursday's market events, the potential contributing factors, and possible market reforms.
[13:57] {Threei} "As a first step, the parties agreed on a structural framework, to be refined over the next day, for strengthening circuit breakers and handling erroneous trades."
[13:58] {Threei} Senators Levin and Merkeley introduce amendment barring banks from betting against their clients
[13:58] {Threei} lol
[13:58] {Threei} imbeciles
[13:58] {Threei} how the hell does bank sells something to a client not betting against it?
[13:59] {RonS} ...when someone buys any insurance is not the insurance co betting against the customer?
[14:00] {shorty} Good point RonS
[14:00] {RonS} jef l .90
[14:00] {Threei} of course
[14:03] {Les} like I said Vad, I would like access to all these soundbites one day. great material for a book.
[14:03] {Les} pretty please
[14:04] {Les} bp
[14:06] {Threei} which soundbites?
[14:06] {Les} idiots
[14:06] {Les} SEC
[14:06] {Les} politicians
[14:06] {Les} talking heads
[14:06] {Les} this stuff'll sell as a comedy
[14:06] {Threei} you lost me
[14:07] {Threei} what do I have to do with it?
[14:07] {Les} you've got the archives
[14:07] {Threei} you do too
[14:07] {Threei} http://tradinglog.realitytrader.com/
[14:07] {Les} how far can we go back?
[14:08] {Threei} 2007
[14:08] {dino} sm l bwld .25
[14:08] {jmb} 3
[14:08] {Threei} wooohoo
[14:08] {nemo} look at offer at .30 dino
[14:09] {Threei} Les, you just got a new one for your future collection
[14:09] {Threei} French Fin Min Lagarde: Credibility of the euro has been restored
[14:09] {Threei} just like that
[14:09] {Les} lol
[14:09] {Threei} overnight
[14:10] {Les} this is the woman that told France to stop thinking, in order to get the economy in order
[14:10] {Threei} how?
[14:11] {Les} France has reputation of thinkers, talkers - philosophy and discussion is revered. she said 'stop it'
[14:12] {Threei} well, judgung by that headline she clearly leads by example
[14:12] {dino} see it, no worries
[14:12] {Les} she returned to France from board of US company. guess she learnt the 'American way'
[14:13] {Les} mind you, it seems to be French way, English way etc etc today
[14:13] {dino} chewing it up
[14:13] {Les} thinking not required
[14:13] {nemo} digesting now
[14:13] {Les} lol dino, forgot the .30 break blabbering...
[14:14] {Threei} no seriously
[14:14] {Threei} Earlier today the WSJ reported Levin was drafting legislation to prevent conflicts of interest by prohibiting companies from taking the opposite side of the deal for their own account, at least when they are marketing investments they have created themselves
[14:14] {Threei} how is it possible?
[14:15] {Les} no more deals... problem fixed
[14:16] {Les} Swedish finance minister Anders Borg says it is a case of keeping the wolves from the door. "We now see herd behaviours in the markets that are really pack behaviours, wolf-pack behaviours," he said. "And if we will not stop these packs, they will tear - even if it's self-inflicted weakness - they will tear the weaker countries apart."
[14:16] {dino} just wait until they come up w/idea that markets are not allowed to drop
[14:17] {Les} it does not merit asking why country is weak of course
[14:18] {Threei} I swear my grandfather was right, I was just too young and stupid to understand that...
[14:18] {Threei} he was confident the stupidity in the world is too gereat of a force to allow the humanity to survive
[14:18] {shorty} lol
[14:19] {RonS} ...to continue the diatribe of theonslaught of freedom: Obama said this seekend that the media was getting in the way of democracy
[14:20] {Threei} I missed that
[14:20] {Les} media, or multi media?
[14:20] {dino} he's an idiot
[14:20] {Threei} but well... sounds about right
[14:20] {Les} heard him bitching about ipods and playstations
[14:20] {RonS} ...that was so last week...
[14:20] {Les} haha
[14:21] {Les} I obviously don't keep up with the guru's teachings
[14:21] {RonS} ... the guy really is just a Chicago thug...
[14:22] {Threei} I wanted to object, just because I always do... but then realized I have no single argument
[14:22] {RonS} ...is tough to find one unless you are part of the choir...
[14:29] {RonS} stopped jef -.10
[14:32] {ese} noooooo....i've been on the phone most of the morning....so just watching
[14:32] {Threei} didn't think you were so chatty ese
[14:32] {ese} bad time of the year for high school teachers.......way to busy..
[14:33] {ese} only time i can relax is at your shiskabob barbecue in the summer
[14:33] {Threei} soon
[14:34] {shorty} Can't wait to crash that party ese.
[14:34] {ese} no schedules/concerts/talking to booking agents etc etc etc to worry about
[14:34] {Threei} you'll have to pass dp test shorty
[14:34] {shorty} :O I can't fight.
[14:34] {Threei} 3 glasses of vodka in 30 min, 200 g each
[14:34] {ese} it's a don't miss shorty.......vad is genius with shiskabob
[14:34] {shorty} I tried it once, and it was bad.
[14:35] {Les} party at Vad's? How do I crash that?
[14:35] {ese} douse his with vodka if you like ....but it's not necessary
[14:35] {shorty} Buy a plane ticket to Vancouver, then get on a kayak a paddle to Victoria.
[14:36] {ese} could be the whole board there this time vad
[14:36] {Threei} I am not coming then
[14:36] {shorty} Just leave the fridge full of food Theei.
[14:37] {Threei} but ese.. patience will have a lot of stories from her trip
[14:37] {shorty} Out + 20 .49 BWLD Thank you dino
[14:37] {ese} ahhhhhhh yes.......and slike show to boot maybe
[14:37] {ese} slide
[14:38] {dino} gj shorty
[14:38] {shorty} Thanks to you. :)
[14:39] {shorty} If I do that Threei, I would die. 3 glasses 200 g 30 min.
[14:40] {dino} how many oz. are 200 g
[14:40] {Threei} almost 7
[14:40] {Les} out .45 +.15 ty dino
[14:40] {dino} hmmmm, now if it was tequilla, no problem mon
[14:40] {shorty} 7 ounces.
[14:41] {dino} drank quite a bit absolut citron at neighbors sat. night
[14:41] {Les} that's half a bottle of whisky. Is dp really alive or just a trading algorithm?
[14:41] {Les} nice spike blwd
[14:42] {Les} bwld
[14:42] {shorty} Got to go everyone. Thanks everyone.
[14:42] {dino} yeah, got lucky
[14:42] {Les} ciao
[14:42] {dino} cua shorty
[14:42] {Threei} take care shorty
[14:43] {Threei} Les that depends
[14:43] {Threei} when he is sober, he is just a trading algorithm
[14:43] {Threei} but when you pour third glasss for him, he comes really aloive
[14:43] {dptl} lol
[14:43] {Les} hmmm I imagine Ford and GM would be interested to study him...
[14:44] {Threei} they are
[14:44] {Les} seems dp runs well on biofuel
[14:44] {Threei} but they can't catch him sober
[14:44] {dino} lol
[14:45] {Les} Nemo, you here?
[14:45] {Threei} and if you think this bunch gathering every year for the party at my backyard was not weird enough get this:
[14:45] {Threei} ese takes his coffee via hypodermic needle
[14:46] {Les} sure that's not cocaine mixed in with it?
[14:49] {dino} fire l .44
[14:50] {Threei} (US) US Senator Durbin (D): Will provide an amendment to the credit card interchange fee legislation this week
[14:50] {Threei} - Note: US Senator Leahy (D-VT) proposed backing legislation that would curb interchange fees to limit the ability of credit card industry to charge merchants small fees on each transaction.
[14:50] {Threei} only large fees will be allowed I take it?
[14:55] {Threei} quite amazing... Euro lost almost all its gain
[14:55] {Threei} wolfpack just won't let go eh?
[14:57] {dino} bwld stop to .65
[14:57] {dino} "the wolf is always at the door" don henley
[14:58] {dino} to .70
[14:58] {strider} When I awoke, the dire wolf, 600 lbs. of sin...was standing at my window, all I said was 'come on in.' --the Dead
[14:59] {dino} out bwld +.45
[15:01] {Threei} I am impresed with trades today
[15:01] {Threei} you guys kill it
[15:02] {dino} ahh yes, "live in sin, c'mon in"
[15:02] {dino} 3i, just started "the stand" by king
[15:02] {Threei} that's a big book
[15:02] {Threei} but what's our hurry
[15:03] {Threei} dark towers were even bigger and you chewed your way through them :)
[15:04] {dino} that took months
[15:04] {dino} friend of mine said "it' was a good read too
[15:05] {Threei} yup
[15:05] {Threei} actually almost all by him is good, he is very consistent
[15:05] {Les} damn brought back memories of high school. Always reading sci-fi/fantasy during school time
[15:05] {Threei} I could name probably just couple not up to par
[15:06] {Les} I am trying to remember my preferred sci-fantasy, along lines of dark tower
[15:07] {Threei} end of day should bring some direction finally
[15:08] {Les} here it is:
[15:08] {Les} http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wolf-Shadow-Jon-Shannow-Novel/dp/1857237889/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1273518488&sr=1-1
[15:08] {Les} loved this series
[15:09] {Les} must be twenty years now since I read it...
[15:10] {dino} john jakes north and south trilogy was good read
[15:17] {Les} stopped fire -.05. can't borrow
[15:21] {dino} lod stop for me
[15:28] {dino} bwld drop
[15:28] {Threei} 79% Worry Europes Economic Crisis Will Cause Problems for U.S.
[15:28] {Threei} duh
[15:29] {Les} l cs .91 stop lod
[15:37] {dino} out pire -.14
[15:38] {dino} gotaa hop, son's baseball
[15:38] {RonS} cya dino
[15:38] {Les} ciao
[15:38] {Threei} take care dino
[15:39] {dino} thx
[15:45] {dptl} good evening all
[15:45] {Les} ciao dp
[15:47] {Threei} take care dp
[15:47] {Threei} not much movemetn at the end of day
[15:47] {Les} out CS +.15 cutting it a bit close
[15:47] {Les} c u's tomorrow
[15:47] {Threei} okay guys, thank you all, have a good evening
[15:47] {Threei} see you tomnorrow
[15:48] {nemo} c u

Friday, May 7, 2010

May 07 2010

Nice active day (no wonder, after yesterday's wild swings) with may trades on both sides. LVS, AIG, ITMN, NVDA, WFC, something else... When ISP started working in my area again, disconnects resumed but were not too prolonged so I could drop by to the room, make another call, then find out how it worked during next reconnection. Left it all in the log for the entertainment value.

Session Time: Fri May 07 00:00:00 2010

[08:16] {magoo} morning
[08:16] {Threei} hey mags
[08:16] {magoo} :)
[08:16] {Threei} can you believe I missed the show because of frikin ISP
[08:16] {magoo} NO, unreal..aapl hit 199
[08:17] {Threei} came online at 20:30
[08:17] {Threei} you guys handled it alright? no one got hurt?
[08:17] {magoo} it was scary vad, dow was down in like 60 seconds..200, 300, 4500, 700, 900
[08:18] {Threei} yeah, I know all abut it - after it was all over, lol
[08:35] {Threei} US) APR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE: 9.9% V 9.7%E
[08:35] {Threei} US) APR CHANGE IN NONFARM PAYROLLS: +290K V 190KE; CHANGE IN PRIVATE PAYROLLS: +231K V 100KE
[08:35] {Threei} - Change in Manufacturing payrolls: 44K v 20Ke
[08:35] {Threei} Prior Nonfarm Payrolls revised higher from 162K to 230K
[08:35] {Threei} - Prior Private payrolls revised higher from 123K to 174K
[08:35] {Threei} - Prior Manufacturing Payrolls revised higher from 17K to 19K
[08:36] {nemo} not making much of an impact
[08:38] {larisa} yes, they need to change K to M.. then people 'll react :)
[08:47] {Threei} (UK) UK PM Brown: Willing to meet with other party leaders, Clegg and Cameron
[08:47] {Threei} willing?
[08:47] {Threei} lol
[08:48] {Threei} be back in 15... making my own breakfast is such a chore
[08:49] {dptl} good morning
[08:49] {strider} you need more 'people'.
[09:04] {fernp} Good morning everybody
[09:05] {nemo} hola fern
[09:05] {fernp} super nemo :-)
[09:05] {strider} morning folks.
[09:05] {strider} You have a good day yesterday, nemo?
[09:06] {nemo} actually, no
[09:06] {strider} mm....
[09:06] {Threei} dp, fern, strider :)
[09:06] {nemo} I've been out of sync lately...alot going on outside of trading
[09:06] {strider} :)
[09:07] {fernp} today is my last day here for a while
[09:07] {fernp} I'll be here again as soon as I resolve some issues. I wanted to say thanks to all of you and wish you the best guys
[09:08] {magoo} i hope everything works out fern
[09:08] {nemo} buenos suertes
[09:08] {fernp} gracias
[09:08] {nemo} de nada
[09:08] {Threei} fast healing fern
[09:08] {strider} will miss you, fern.
[09:08] {fernp} ty Vad, strider
[09:09] {magoo} vad, watch list ITMN F RIG FCX AIG RIMM WFC LVS
[09:10] {Threei} just give me entries and exits too
[09:11] {strider} And you you front me some bucks?
[09:11] {strider} could you?
[09:11] {strider} here
[09:11] {fernp} i have an email from MBT saying some trades from yest could be deleted
[09:11] {strider} here's money bags now.
[09:12] {Threei} http://media.globenewswire.com/cache/6948/file/8211.htm
[09:12] {ese} wow.......you all went for a wild ride just after i left......hows everybody doing
[09:12] {Threei} list of broken trades so far
[09:12] {ese} morning by the way
[09:12] {fernp} http://i44.tinypic.com/6idx5i.jpg
[09:12] {Threei} ese :)
[09:13] {ese} fern say it isn't so
[09:13] {ese} good luck fern
[09:13] {fernp} ty ese
[09:15] {lasertrev} good morning
[09:15] {Threei} trev :)
[09:18] {RonS} gm all :) I will miss you Fern. You are a standup guy. All the best.
[09:18] {Threei} ron :)
[09:19] {Les} Fern's a dead duck is he?
[09:19] {Les} hey vad, you leading this murderous gang of pirates today?
[09:20] {Threei} unless ISP cuts me off again
[09:20] {Threei} rthey said they ashouldn't
[09:20] {Threei} but they still work in my area today
[09:20] {Les} so you'll get cut
[09:20] {Les} ok, who's vice captain in that event?
[09:21] {fernp} ty Ron
[09:21] {Les} Mags, you ready to take charge with 10 point aapl setups again if necessary?
[09:22] {shorty} good morning
[09:22] {Threei} shorty :)
[09:22] {Threei} Reportedly CFTC, SEC, NY Fed, US Tsy Sec Geithner and Fed Chair Bernanke discussed market plunge on two calls yesterday
[09:22] {Threei} Note: Yesterday evening the CFTC issued the following statement: The SEC and CFTC are working closely with the other financial regulators, as well as the exchanges, to review the unusual trading activity that took place briefly this afternoon. We are also working with the exchanges to take appropriate steps to protect investors pursuant to market rules.
[09:22] {Threei} We will make public the findings of our review along with recommendations for appropriate action
[09:24] {Threei} let's be careful today guys, residual nervousness can lead to wild swings
[09:24] {Les} you serious fern? yesterday didn't screw you I hope?
[09:25] {RonS} aig Could it rip?
[09:25] {Threei} Les, that's planned well in advance
[09:25] {fernp} no les
[09:25] {Les} sorry, reading earlier comments
[09:25] {fernp} was a fantastic day here
[09:26] {Threei} American International Group, Inc Reports Q1 adj $1.21 v $0.48e, R$16.3B v $22.4Be (unclear if comp)
[09:26] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:26] {Threei} jf :)
[09:27] {dino} gm all
[09:28] {Threei} dino :)
[09:28] {strider} morning dino.
[09:28] {dino} :)
[09:28] {dino} ctsh
[09:28] {jfjf64} whats the game plan 3i
[09:29] {Threei} wait for clean safe setups
[09:29] {Threei} be double careful
[09:29] {RonS} cytx
[09:30] {dino} fsys
[09:30] {RonS} ...nope cytx
[09:31] {Threei} thought of LVS short on .20 break
[09:31] {Threei} thought 1/2 of second too long
[09:31] {nemo} pcar
[09:32] {nemo} wrong window
[09:32] {Threei} bounce time soon LVS
[09:32] {jfjf64} you need more coffee
[09:32] {Threei} .85 long
[09:32] {Threei} if holding .75
[09:33] {Threei} half lot
[09:33] {Threei} invalidated
[09:33] {Threei} .80 break long
[09:34] {nemo} damn
[09:34] {Threei} out
[09:34] {Les} jumpy
[09:34] {jfjf64} damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[09:34] {shorty} I missed it
[09:34] {Les} IB has yet to respond to my order
[09:34] {Threei} first one? {G}
[09:35] {Les} yesterday IB failed to function end of story. software capitulation
[09:35] {Threei} let's see if seconf chance appears
[09:35] {Threei} want one more leg down
[09:35] {Threei} then another .80 recross
[09:35] {nemo} on what stock
[09:35] {Threei} ??
[09:36] {nemo} lvs
[09:37] {Threei} ok, need different trigger, .80 is too far
[09:37] {dino} fdx
[09:37] {Threei} and .70 happened too fast
[09:37] {dino} sm l .85
[09:37] {Threei} ABAT Announces new orders (3.19, +0.10, 3.24%)
[09:38] {Threei} Obtained approximately $1.7M in new orders for electric vehicles during the International Bicycle Expo held in Shanghai from April 27 to 30, 2010.
[09:38] {Threei} - received recognition for its products' superior performance and unique appearance design. During the Expo, the company signed sales contracts totaling approximately $1.7M (or 2,500 electric scooters) with five customers from Europe, including Germany, Denmark, and Netherlands.
[09:43] {Threei} ITMN
[09:43] {Threei} watching for pullback entry
[09:43] {shorty} around .35 range?
[09:43] {Threei} and WFC
[09:43] {Threei} WFC closer to .20
[09:44] {Threei} ITMN. not sure yet
[09:44] {Threei} .55 break...
[09:44] {Threei} risky
[09:45] {dino} fcx sm l .50 wide
[09:49] {Threei} QTWW Signs Definitive Production Supply Agreement with Fisker Automotive for the Exclusive Supply of Q-Drive(TM) Plug-In Hybrid Components and Control Systems for the Fisker Karma Program
[09:50] {ese} Vad....you've been through a few of these.....anything similar to yesterday
[09:50] {Threei} yes
[09:50] {Threei} not on a scale
[09:50] {Threei} but not unique in essence
[09:50] {ese} hows that
[09:51] {Threei} these thing happened in the past - on a somewhat lesser scale
[09:51] {ese} other wer not a mistake?
[09:51] {Threei} they were
[09:52] {Threei} anyone remember a joke about Swiss bank trainees?
[09:52] {ese} oh really......so this is not unique......machine or man made mistakes?
[09:52] {Threei} "today we practice Lean on Buy button"
[09:52] {Threei} both
[09:53] {dino} fcx stopped
[09:53] {Threei} joke took hold after big market move caused by swiss bank trader in training hitting wrong button
[09:55] {ese} that wasn't yesterday was it?
[09:55] {Threei} no
[09:55] {dino} some pretty big drops occurring
[09:56] {Threei} WFC
[09:56] {ese} ahhhhhhhh
[09:56] {dino} re-test in making perhaps
[09:56] {jfjf64} itmn
[09:57] {jfjf64} triple bot
[09:58] {dino} whippy
[09:59] {Threei} ok, getting inyerested in WFC
[09:59] {Threei} (US) White house adviser Romer: Monitoring Greek situation
[10:00] {Threei} idiot
[10:01] {Les} if everyone responded 'idiot' like that they'd stop reporting it. Then what would journalists do?
[10:02] {Threei} a lot of fear in the market
[10:02] {nemo} ya think?
[10:02] {Les} fsys read vad?
[10:02] {Threei} LVS
[10:02] {Threei} 21 break
[10:02] {jfjf64} pass the vodka
[10:03] {Threei} no, let's look for closer trigger
[10:05] {nemo} shit...should just hop on the down train
[10:05] {nemo} elevator
[10:05] {nemo} mixing metaphors
[10:06] {Threei} LVS
[10:06] {Threei} ugh
[10:06] {Threei} way too fast
[10:06] {strider} charts not keeping up
[10:06] {Threei} .60 break I had in mind
[10:06] {jfjf64} level 2 gonna explode
[10:06] {Les} small short F .47 try and let it run
[10:07] {Threei} crrrap
[10:07] {Threei} can't call fast enough when they jump like this
[10:07] {jfjf64} pass the vodka
[10:07] {Threei} 30 cents bounce
[10:07] {Threei} I mean 4
[10:07] {Threei} 40
[10:08] {Les} so you need to abbreviate the calls vad
[10:08] {shorty} I m not done jfjf64
[10:08] {jfjf64} lol
[10:08] {Les} we know the 5 cent bounce routine
[10:09] {Les} just give us idea of when we should be thinking about it
[10:09] {Threei} not when moves are this fast
[10:09] {jfjf64} yeah vad
[10:09] {jfjf64} lol
[10:10] {jfjf64} anybody got any jokes
[10:10] {shorty} Maybe a d/b on LVS coming our way.
[10:10] {shorty} No jokes here, you?
[10:10] {jfjf64} thid day
[10:10] {strider} well, there's Les.
[10:10] {jfjf64} this
[10:10] {jfjf64} day
[10:10] {shorty} lol
[10:11] {jfjf64} vxx 28.59 break
[10:11] {jfjf64} all in
[10:11] {Les} piss off hillbilly
[10:12] {Threei} I don't know jf...
[10:12] {Les} :( hurt my feelings
[10:12] {Threei} this is not a breakout one, this is pullback one
[10:13] {jfjf64} .33 stop
[10:13] {dino} ctsh sm l .75
[10:14] {jfjf64} pass the vodka pls
[10:14] {shorty} you got it
[10:15] {strider} this is too wild for me.
[10:15] {Threei} told ya, residual nervousness from yesterday\
[10:15] {jfjf64} .69 break vad
[10:16] {Threei} VXX?
[10:16] {jfjf64} y
[10:16] {Threei} nah
[10:16] {Threei} pullback for bounce
[10:16] {Threei} or half out on bounce half hold for break
[10:16] {Threei} but don't buy breaks on it
[10:16] {Threei} 4 out of 5 will fail
[10:17] {jfjf64} hmm lk that
[10:18] {Threei} OK, let's try for db LVS?
[10:18] {Threei} .60 break
[10:18] {jfjf64} you drivin
[10:20] {Threei} no go
[10:20] {shorty} out
[10:20] {dino} fast fall out ctsh -.10
[10:20] {jfjf64} vxx
[10:20] {jfjf64} grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:20] {jfjf64} to fastttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[10:20] {dino} markets saying fat finger trade my ass
[10:21] {Threei} fear incorporated
[10:21] {jfjf64} oh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[10:21] {larisa} db I thought was downbreak, you use it for double bottom?
[10:21] {RonS} vix marching higher...
[10:21] {jfjf64} pass vodka shorty
[10:21] {Threei} yes laris... bd for breakdown :)
[10:21] {shorty} you got it
[10:21] {larisa} sigh
[10:22] {nemo} this is starting to feel like Fall of 08 a little
[10:22] {nemo} I remember, I took my "complimentary week" on the first down limit open
[10:23] {nemo} what chart server you using Vad?
[10:23] {Threei} 5
[10:25] {nemo} wonder if fas is regretting the split
[10:25] {Threei} sheesh VXX
[10:25] {dino} so where are the analysists that have been upgrading stocks a few days ago
[10:25] {Threei} lol dino
[10:25] {nemo} drinking
[10:25] {jfjf64} im sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[10:26] {jfjf64} so sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[10:26] {shorty} Pick a stock and short.
[10:26] {nemo} I always do that at the bottom myself
[10:27] {fernp} yes shorty, it is what i did. VRSN .69 short and VMED .59 short :-)
[10:27] {Threei} panic is about to subside
[10:27] {RonS} vix new 52 week high
[10:28] {shorty} WFC myself :D
[10:28] {nemo} why do you say that Vad, it's a friday, who wants to go long this weekend?
[10:28] {dino} bday coming, gut feel
[10:28] {Threei} who said anything about long into weekend?
[10:28] {dino} here comes the devalue euro talk, cnbc
[10:28] {dino} inflate it away boys
[10:28] {nemo} volumes high
[10:28] {jfjf64} oh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[10:29] {jfjf64} 28.69 vxx
[10:29] {RonS} 42.15 vix
[10:31] {shorty} Did someone stop LVS?
[10:31] {dino} since 4/23 highs, dji -8.6%; ndx -12%; s/p -10%
[10:31] {Threei} [10:27] {Threei} panic is about to subside - 1 minute
[10:31] {Threei} shorty... what?
[10:31] {shorty} LVS is not moving on my screen
[10:32] {RonS} is on mine
[10:32] {Threei} that's your quote feed
[10:32] {Threei} it bounced good 50 cents
[10:32] {shorty} stuck at 20.03
[10:32] {magoo} TREV U HERE???
[10:32] {dino} fcx sm l .50
[10:32] {Threei} 20.17 now shorty
[10:32] {Threei} and moving up
[10:33] {shorty} Hugh...shut down and start again
[10:33] {Threei} this speed challenges even fastest software
[10:33] {Threei} let alone that thing you are using
[10:33] {dino} watching intc, f,
[10:33] {jfjf64} hey thats what my wife said to me last night shorty
[10:33] {Threei} 20.40 LVS
[10:34] {dino} roflol jf
[10:34] {dptl} lol
[10:34] {shorty} Actually, everything is stuck on my screen. I have Orbis.........loljfjf64
[10:34] {shorty} Back now
[10:34] {dino} need quotes?
[10:34] {ese} seems a bit of panic has set in again
[10:35] {jfjf64} y
[10:35] {shorty} Bought LVS .77 sold .85
[10:35] {dino} up
[10:35] {jfjf64} .44
[10:35] {jfjf64} in
[10:35] {ese} don't trust my quotes.....they seem to be all over the place...
[10:35] {dino} out fcx .90, +.40
[10:36] {dino} dji moving 50 pts in 30 seconds continuosly
[10:36] {dino} yesterday was 150, so tame
[10:36] {nemo} yeah, fear subsiding
[10:36] {nemo} not
[10:36] {dino} odd pwrd pos. again today
[10:37] {dino} snda too
[10:37] {jfjf64} lvs
[10:37] {Threei} dollar bounce
[10:37] {Threei} nemo.. are we looking at the same market?
[10:37] {Threei} mine bounced quite noticeably
[10:37] {nemo} 159 dow
[10:37] {nemo} -
[10:38] {dino} fire l .49
[10:38] {nemo} my chart servers keep dying
[10:38] {Threei} -120 now
[10:39] {Threei} -150
[10:39] {Threei} machines are choking
[10:40] {dino} imo be nimble
[10:41] {Les} crap put in a stop order but not a sell order on F. missed the $. gonna have to learn this on Laser
[10:41] {shorty} Forget about the market being a current, it's like trying to swim the Niagara gorge.
[10:41] {dino} ups sm l .out fire .65, +.16
[10:42] {dino} upsd .25 l sm was entry
[10:42] {shorty} way to go dino
[10:42] {dino} fcx watch
[10:43] {shorty} I am staying on the side, until the coach ( Threei) says so
[10:43] {dino} eggshells, so ups stop is .97
[10:43] {jfjf64} coach is drinkin
[10:43] {shorty} lol
[10:43] {Threei} if your siftware doesn't keep up, just stay on a sideline until fast market conditions abate
[10:43] {dino} stopped
[10:44] {Les} out F +.40
[10:44] {jfjf64} vxx was thinkin .96
[10:44] {dino} ctsh, fcx, fdx, ups
[10:44] {jfjf64} grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:45] {dino} ctrp back to pre-spilt
[10:45] {nemo} ?
[10:45] {dino} gj les
[10:45] {dino} intc waiting at .65
[10:45] {Les} ty
[10:47] {RonS} ...the 1 minute price range on LVS is amazing
[10:48] {dino} fcx sm l .25
[10:49] {shorty} missed that one dino!
[10:49] {dino} ups sm l .00
[10:50] {jfjf64} ing s .79
[10:51] {dino} out fcx .66, +.41
[10:52] {jfjf64} that a boy dino
[10:52] {dino} .25 seems goo entry is dji stays under -200
[10:52] {dino} good
[10:53] {dino} sm l .25 fcx
[10:54] {jfjf64} go dino
[10:54] {dino} out fcx .00, +.75\
[10:55] {jfjf64} nice
[10:55] {dino} ups dog...woof
[10:55] {dino} same plan imo, until it does npt work
[10:56] {dino} not; sheesh typos
[10:56] {dino} axe murderer market; "untrusting"
[10:56] {jfjf64} vad ya sleepin
[10:57] {Threei} trying to find anything more or less safe
[10:57] {jfjf64} k was gettin worried
[10:57] {dino} want so cheese w/that whine, lol
[10:57] {dino} some
[10:58] {Les} nasty dino
[10:58] {dino} bustin' him, he knows
[10:58] {jfjf64} ya buyin after fcx
[10:58] {dino} indeed
[10:58] {ese} wow...don't if your quotes are as out of wack as some of mine but....for instance .....nvda printing in the .90's....quoting in the }70's and .80's
[10:58] {dino} down we go
[10:58] {ese} must be some serious catching up goin on
[10:59] {dino} out ups .29, +.29
[10:59] {dino} this being 2 hours ahead really helps
[11:00] {Threei} NVDA is 13.83 ese
[11:00] {dino} es you need quotes?
[11:01] {Les} had this problem yesterday ese, but ok now
[11:01] {ese} printing .96 now vad
[11:02] {Threei} .99
[11:02] {ese} .99
[11:02] {Threei} yes
[11:02] {ese} just seems all over the map
[11:02] {ese} tks
[11:02] {ese} i smell money in NVDA though
[11:02] {dino} fcx sm l ..92
[11:02] {Les} yep
[11:02] {Les} nice b/o candidate imo
[11:03] {dino} .92 is nvda sorry
[11:03] {dino} fcx watch
[11:03] {ese} basic fundamentals with this one put it at 18 to 23 minimum
[11:04] {dino} going lower
[11:04] {dino} whoosh down, gut
[11:04] {ese} based on mrkt cap and p/e it's $18
[11:05] {Threei} (US) US House to hold hearings May 11 on the causes of the market decline yesterday
[11:05] {Threei} - subcommittee Chair Kanjorski says its unacceptable that technological error could trigger a market panic.
[11:05] {Threei} - seeks SEC investigation of the incident.
[11:05] {ese} basci fundamentals of the market ..."your paying for the right to participate in the future earnings stream of the company"....
[11:06] {dino} gut wrong
[11:06] {ese} wanna see what happens to nvda today then am gonna start accumulating
[11:06] {dino} ctrp sm l .01
[11:08] {dino} fdx sm l .99
[11:08] {dino} giddy-up, wants green
[11:09] {dino} nvda all things considered held well
[11:09] {magoo} mkts wants to run up[
[11:10] {dino} pwrd gave me the look, but i did not take it
[11:12] {Les} ty ese. out +.10 nvda
[11:12] {dino} out fdx .49, +.50
[11:13] {dino} gj les
[11:16] {dino} esi sm l .86
[11:16] {Threei} good trades guys
[11:17] {dino} walking that thing w/o trades
[11:17] {nemo} ?
[11:17] {dino} esi
[11:17] {dino} bid/ask gooing up w/o fills
[11:18] {ese} late call sorry....caught up L nvda .11
[11:19] {Threei} pullback is in order
[11:19] {ese} out .28
[11:19] {dino} wants positive first dji, imo
[11:19] {ese} +.17
[11:20] {dino} gj
[11:20] {ese} just really started to move there dino
[11:20] {ese} back in L nvda .11 again
[11:21] {dino} i conceede to 3i
[11:21] {ese} out .16
[11:21] {ese} +.04
[11:22] {ese} jesse livermore here......just going with the prints
[11:22] {dino} thats all there is
[11:22] {dino} no fundys
[11:22] {ese} can't add, that +.05
[11:22] {shorty} short opportunity with FCX dino?
[11:22] {dino} no
[11:23] {shorty} lol....k
[11:23] {dino} but what do i know
[11:23] {shorty} that no had conviction it seemed.
[11:23] {ese} L nvda .10
[11:23] {dino} all i'm doing is watching dji for fcx, it will tell you
[11:23] {Threei} LVS is likely to drop a bit under 21
[11:23] {shorty} what is dji?
[11:23] {Threei} then look for bounce
[11:24] {nemo} dow jones industrials
[11:24] {dino} $dji=dow
[11:24] {shorty} thx
[11:24] {ese} stopped nvda.-.05
[11:25] {ese} hmmmmmmm too many time to the well
[11:25] {dino} short was right shorty
[11:26] {shorty} Could have gone either way though
[11:26] {magoo} sh lvs .37
[11:27] {Threei} cober half mags
[11:27] {dino} out esi .59, -.23
[11:27] {Threei} cover 1/4 more here
[11:27] {magoo} cov .08 ty vad, u idea
[11:27] {nemo} omg...he lost on a trade....(faint)
[11:27] {Threei} and try for last one under 21
[11:28] {Threei} then let's switch to hunting for bounce
[11:30] {dino} darn esi chickened out
[11:30] {Threei} cover last piece here
[11:31] {Threei} ok, we are there
[11:31] {magoo} out .82 last 2k TY
[11:31] {Threei} [11:23] {Threei} LVS is likely to drop a bit under 21
[11:31] {magoo} WOW good fill laser
[11:31] {shorty} nice magoo
[11:31] {dino} good call on pullback 3i
[11:32] {magoo} vads call
[11:32] {magoo} ty boss
[11:32] {Threei} welcome sir
[11:33] {Threei} almost impossible to catch exact levels today
[11:33] {Threei} can do this kind of "zone" call
[11:33] {Threei} if you can get exact entry, great
[11:33] {Threei} if not, stay away, this is not your usual market
[11:33] {Threei} look how operfectly it bounced
[11:33] {dino} fdx sm l .25
[11:36] {magoo} like rig long
[11:36] {magoo} dangerous
[11:36] {magoo} took .00
[11:37] {ese} L NVDA .99
[11:37] {ese} STOP .79
[11:38] {Threei} anyone got LVS long from under 21?
[11:38] {dino} out fdx, .21 -.04,confused, taking few minute break
[11:38] {magoo} no bgo rig
[11:39] {Threei} (UK) Former BoE Member Blanchflower: ECB has fundamentally failed; financial crisis is still spreading
[11:39] {Threei} wow
[11:39] {Threei} quite a statement
[11:39] {Threei} IT) Govt reportedly feels it needs new budget measures in place by year end to meet its targets for deficits - unconfirmed report
[11:39] {Threei} - sees tax reforms as possibly increasing tax revenues
[11:40] {dino} olnly if they lower taxes
[11:40] {Threei} they don't know how to do that
[11:41] {Threei} politician grammar puts words tax and increase in the same line by default
[11:41] {dino} suppy-side works, but politically unpopular as too many don't pay anything
[11:42] {dino} esi ugh
[11:42] {Threei} WFC
[11:42] {ese} L nvda avg .00
[11:42] {Threei} 31 break
[11:42] {Threei} if stays above .90
[11:43] {ese} stop to .85
[11:43] {Threei} 1:1
[11:43] {Threei} half out or scalp
[11:43] {Threei} you decide
[11:43] {Threei} no such thing as "normal" today
[11:44] {magoo} in wfc
[11:44] {magoo} looking .30 area
[11:45] {dino} elx .50 l
[11:45] {Threei} 1:2, 1/4 more out
[11:46] {Threei} nice one on NVDA ese
[11:47] {ese} tks
[11:47] {ese} out nvda .15
[11:47] {ese} +.15 4k worth
[11:48] {dino} about 100 pts in 5 min.
[11:48] {dino} gj es
[11:48] {Threei} 1:3
[11:48] {Threei} out in full
[11:49] {magoo} out .34 WFC ty vad
[11:49] {ese} tks
[11:49] {Threei} me happy with today
[11:49] {ese} see ther i go agian....vad it should have been out 1/2 stop to beak even
[11:49] {Threei} ese... normally, yes
[11:50] {Threei} but today is anything but
[11:50] {ese} yes true.....
[11:50] {Threei} don't beat yourself up today
[11:50] {Threei} on days like this risk control becomes superduperextra priority
[11:50] {dino} air pocket market
[11:50] {Threei} have a look at WFC we just sold in 30s
[11:51] {ese} indeed
[11:51] {Threei} 25 cents drop faster than you can say mama
[11:51] {ese} was scary enough making those trades
[11:51] {Threei} or, faster than les can say nemo
[11:51] {Les} neo
[11:51] {Les} no
[11:51] {Les} nemo
[11:51] {Threei} see?
[11:51] {fernp} yes , yes
[11:51] {Threei} :)
[11:51] {fernp} incrdible
[11:52] {Threei} trust me guys,
[11:52] {strider} "nemo spelled backward is 'omen.'
[11:52] {Threei} if after 14 years of trading I say today is extremely dangerous,
[11:52] {dino} and dino is onid
[11:52] {Threei} you have all the reasions to be scared
[11:52] {magoo} his last name is neimad
[11:52] {Threei} lol
[11:52] {Threei} here is he thing about days like this:
[11:53] {shorty} Ya, but some of us are stupid and young Threei.
[11:53] {Threei} later on you hear al kinds of legends about fortunes made in one day
[11:53] {Threei} 99% of them are myth,
[11:53] {Threei} but main thing is:
[11:53] {dino} rule#1\
[11:53] {Threei} you will never hear real ones about firtunes lost
[11:53] {Threei} and 99% of those are true
[11:54] {dino} rule#1
[11:54] {nemo} don't lose the money
[11:54] {Threei} don't pee against the wind?
[11:54] {dino} you must stay in the game
[11:54] {strider} don't tug on superman's cape.
[11:54] {nemo} Don't mess around with Jim
[11:54] {strider} bad omen.
[11:54] {nemo} what?
[11:55] {strider} meaningless.
[11:55] {dino} you must stay in the game! rule # 1
[11:55] {shorty} thanks for FDX dino.
[11:55] {dino} np
[11:55] {shorty} Getting easier to handle your trades.
[11:55] {Threei} ok dino, I will make "don't pee against the wind" #2...
[11:56] {dino} irish rule, wind at your back, very similar
[11:56] {dino} being a mc and all
[11:56] {Threei} to finish my last diatribe,
[11:56] {Threei} market is a big cemetery with tobstones saying" he was a brave trader"
[11:57] {Threei} tombstones too
[11:57] {dino} ctrp out .42, +.41
[11:57] {shorty} lol Threei
[11:59] {dino} clf, mos, pwrd, pot, dv, esi, apol all positive
[11:59] {RonS} aig winding up to rip?
[12:00] {Threei} probably but not against the market
[12:01] {Threei} keep an eye on it, it can be good one if timed right, and keep shares to half
[12:01] {Threei} ese
[12:01] {Threei} glad now you sold NVDA?
[12:01] {RonS} ...old broker saying: winners make money, losers lose, but brokers always make money: two out of three ain't bad.
[12:02] {Threei} you could have simply replace it again at the same price
[12:04] {Threei} Ron, my favorite version is:
[12:04] {Threei} winners make money, losers lose money, and sometimes it rains
[12:05] {dino} i prefer, sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you
[12:05] {Threei} and sometimes it rains
[12:06] {dino} lol
[12:06] {Threei} and, to round it off:
[12:06] {Threei} some days you are windshield, some days you are a bug
[12:06] {Threei} well... and some days it rains
[12:07] {RonS} ...we are but mice treading where elephants play...
[12:08] {RonS} ...and sometimes it rains
[12:08] {Threei} you got it :)
[12:08] {nemo} while standing under the elephant...that ain't rain
[12:08] {RonS} lol
[12:10] {Threei} AIG...
[12:10] {nemo} .25 break?
[12:10] {nemo} nope
[12:11] {dino} lol
[12:11] {Threei} that was the idea at the moment, nemo
[12:11] {RonS} ...thinking it may be the wrong time of day...
[12:11] {Threei} could take shape again
[12:11] {Threei} scary as taking bacon from my breakfast plate
[12:11] {RonS} i want to see some volume
[12:11] {nemo} just gotta' whack you on the back of the head first
[12:12] {Threei} .25 is a big offer, volume will spike if it's taken
[12:12] {Threei} and make sure you are quick.. because when I see bacon, I am diabolically focused
Session Close: Fri May 07 12:13:24 2010

Session Start: Fri May 07 12:13:24 2010
Session Ident: #discussions
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[12:21] {dino} fdx
[12:24] {magoo} out aig .34
[12:24] {magoo} ty vad
[12:27] {shorty} resistance of 84 you are looking at dino for FDX?
[12:27] {dino} -100 pts in about 10 min
[12:27] {shorty} support
[12:27] {dino} support
[12:28] {dino} y, but 83.75
[12:28] {dino} watch dji
[12:28] {shorty} ok....thanks, will watch
[12:29] {dino} we could easily drop 100 more pts
[12:30] {dino} not to mention my soup is getting cold
[12:30] {shorty} lol
[12:32] {dino} feels lower
[12:32] {dino} sitting
[12:32] {larisa} go eat
[12:33] {dino} ;)
[12:33] {Threei} back
[12:33] {shorty} how said you can't lose weight while trading?
[12:33] {Threei} small disconnection, promised to be done very soon
[12:34] {Threei} I talked to a guy working nearby actually, instead of rep
[12:34] {Threei} what was the lasty line by me you saw?
[12:34] {dino} soon w/cable guy is 1 to 12 hours
[12:34] {larisa} [12:34] {&Threei} what was the lasty line by me you saw? last one
[12:35] {Threei} sigh
[12:35] {larisa} :)
[12:35] {dptl} lol
[12:35] {Threei} 12:11] {nemo} just gotta' whack you on the back of the head first
[12:35] {Threei} [12:12] {Threei} .25 is a big offer, volume will spike if it's taken
[12:35] {Threei} [12:12] {Threei} and make sure you are quick.. because when I see bacon, I am diabolically focused
[12:37] {Threei} .40 break next trigger
[12:37] {Threei} just as dangerous
Session Close: Fri May 07 12:38:13 2010

Session Start: Fri May 07 12:38:13 2010
Session Ident: #discussions
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[14:00] {Threei} sigh
[14:00] {dptl} :) finally
[14:00] {Threei} they are rebuilding whole street, and I am getting disconnected as they move to the next pole
[14:01] {nemo} so you'll be leaving again
[14:01] {Threei} talked to them just now, they said my house is affected by two more poles
[14:01] {Threei} each pole takes about 40 min
[14:01] {Threei} so I am on while they relocate from pole to pole, lol
[14:01] {shorty} What do you think dino, UPS?
[14:01] {Threei} what did I miss?
[14:01] {Threei} you know about Times Square evacuation, right?
[14:01] {nemo} not much
[14:02] {nemo} yeah
[14:02] {Threei} ok...
[14:02] {Threei} be careful folks
[14:02] {Threei} anything can happen on Friday like this
[14:03] {Threei} I believe even wtiht two more disconnects I should be online before day ends
Session Close: Fri May 07 14:03:14 2010

Session Start: Fri May 07 14:03:14 2010
Session Ident: #discussions
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[14:06] {Threei} US) Former Fed Chair Greenspan: 14% of assets in banking institutions should be equity capital
[14:06] {Threei} - risks on investments should be limited to shareholders of equity
[14:09] {dino} cut it
[14:09] {Threei} anyone got AIG of .40?
[14:09] {Threei} [12:37] {Threei} .40 break next trigger
[14:09] {Threei} just before disconection
[14:10] {dino} i've gone cold
[14:11] {Threei} come on... dollar and half run, someone should have gotten at lwast part of it
[14:12] {nemo} yeah, jf did and a few others got in for awhile
[14:12] {shorty} dino, that UPS trade might have ended my day.
[14:12] {RonS} ...3i...held aig from .30 +1.00
[14:12] {Threei} whew
[14:12] {Threei} thank you :)
[14:12] {Threei} my day is not wasted then
[14:12] {RonS} shoulda held for 2.00
[14:12] {dino} i was stopped.
[14:13] {RonS} i almost shook out...
[14:13] {RonS} i think aig may regain some legitimacy
[14:15] {RonS} slw l .30
[14:16] {Threei} lol, would be crazy of me to enter any stock knowing I can lose connection any moment
[14:17] {RonS} ...no kidding...
[14:20] {magoo} btw, i hit AIG for u
[14:20] {magoo} busy today
[14:20] {Threei} :)
[14:20] {Threei} mags, dcc
[14:25] {dino} mkt dump
[14:25] {RonS} slw scratch...gdx started nosing
[14:27] {dino} ups sm l .54
[14:27] {Threei} hmmm... they moves to the next pole, but i am up... phone went down though, lol
[14:29] {RonS} ...surprised your stuff isn't underground...after all, it is the left coast
[14:29] {Threei} part of it is
[14:29] {Threei} part is above
[14:30] {Threei} they discuss it often but the cost of total redoing is mind boggling
[14:30] {Threei} so they hide under the ground parts of it when do some oher unavodiable work
[14:30] {Threei} in 200 years it all will be under the ground,
[14:31] {RonS} lol
[14:31] {Threei} or the big one hits,
[14:31] {Threei} and they will have to rebuild everything anyway
[14:31] {RonS} ...much more likely
Session Close: Fri May 07 14:39:28 2010

Session Start: Fri May 07 14:39:28 2010
Session Ident: #discussions
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[14:39] {shorty} dino is slurping cold soup
[14:39] {RonS} out ctrp +.24 u da man dino
[14:42] {shorty} dino is the man.
[14:42] {Threei} magoo says so too
[14:42] {dino} gj ron, sorry was away
[14:43] {RonS} np thanks
[14:43] {shorty} out + 26 dino
[14:43] {Threei} befroe they disconnect me again, guys,
[14:43] {dino} gj shorty
[14:43] {Threei} AIG, bounced right into upper envelope
[14:43] {Threei} of downtrend channel
[14:44] {shorty} Still in a hole for today though.
[14:44] {Threei} ugh, not available for shorting
[14:44] {Threei} just tried
[14:45] {RonS} aig i think $40 cap but when it breaks it gors to at least 50 fairly quickly
[14:46] {Threei} if anyone has it available and went for short, keep stop above .55
[14:47] {Threei} and look to start covering into next leg down
[14:47] {Threei} around .30
[14:47] {Threei} right here, first cover
[14:47] {shorty} I covered at .38
[14:47] {RonS} ...can you imagine knowing when the Feds are near the end of selling the C position; then reverse split a la AIG and badabing.
[14:47] {Threei} a bit prematurelay... AIG is capable of more
[14:48] {shorty} After you said it too. Shucks
[14:48] {shorty} ty though
[14:48] {Threei} C is a bit different than AIG
[14:49] {Threei} but, heck
[14:49] {Threei} stranger things have happened
[14:49] {Threei} shorty, let's at least complete this trade on paper, practice sake
[14:49] {shorty} ok
[14:50] {Threei} at this point stop for the balance moves to above .40
[14:50] {dino} ironically, reverse spilts are supposed to be bad. used to stay on exchanges
[14:50] {Threei} cover 1/4 more near .20
[14:50] {Threei} they are dino... AIG is just one of rare exceptions
[14:50] {Threei} not first, it happened before... but seldom
[14:50] {dino} "exception" is key
[14:50] {Threei} normally it's a kiss of death
[14:51] {shorty} 1/4
[14:51] {Threei} OK, 1/4 more covered AIG
[14:51] {Threei} stop to .35
[14:51] {shorty} stop.30?
[14:51] {shorty} ok
[14:51] {Threei} after loss of .10 choices are:
[14:51] {Threei} cover
[14:51] {Threei} or continue trailing
[14:52] {Threei} personal preference
[14:52] {Threei} if covering, well, trade is completed for about 50 cents
[14:52] {Threei} if want to try and milk last part, stop to above .30
[14:52] {Threei} after 39 loss to above .20
[14:53] {shorty} done
[14:54] {Threei} to above .25 now
[14:54] {Threei} topped last bounce at .24
[14:54] {Threei} why hold it if starts making higher highs
[14:54] {Threei} get the logic?
[14:55] {Threei} it's simple really
[14:55] {Threei} like rake
[14:55] {shorty} got it, very clear when it's broken down like that.
[14:56] {Threei} that's me
[14:56] {Threei} mr clear when sober
[14:56] {nemo} ?
[14:56] {Threei} done with last piece
Session Close: Fri May 07 15:05:02 2010

Session Start: Fri May 07 15:05:02 2010
Session Ident: #discussions
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[15:06] {Threei} ad back on again
[15:06] {nemo} ?
[15:06] {Threei} nemo... you are going through 4 years old stage or what
[15:06] {nemo} what does "ad back on again" mean?
[15:06] {Threei} ad = and
[15:07] {nemo} oh
[15:07] {nemo} now, is it you that are back on or the aig short?
[15:07] {Threei} now... what was last? about, right before I was disconencted? :)
[15:07] {fernp} you are here
[15:08] {Threei} really hope it was last disconnect
[15:08] {Threei} lost count of ples these cable guys went through, not sure it's the last one they just left
[15:09] {Threei} BP Containment dome is now being installed at leak on ocean floor - Coast Guard
[15:10] {strider} You all have a good weekend. See you monday.
[15:10] {strider} Fern, take care. Hope you'll be back soon.
[15:10] {RonS} cya strider
[15:10] {Threei} take care strider
[15:11] {nemo} P&Q strider
[15:11] {fernp} ty st
[15:11] {strider} I'm up all 4 of my trading days this week. Not much. But it's green.
[15:11] {fernp} congrats strider
[15:11] {strider} Hey, I'm in triple digits for the week. :)
[15:11] {Threei} wtg
[15:11] {strider} I bet dino's impressed. :)
[15:11] {dino} cya strider
[15:12] {dino} awesome job
[15:12] {Threei} and this was not the easiest trading week this cenurt
[15:12] {nemo} ?
[15:12] {Threei} oh boy
[15:12] {shorty} Yesterday put me back a lot. Blew two stops that hurt. Market was faster than my finger.
[15:12] {nemo} I'm down this week
[15:12] {dino} i was neg. yesterday until that crash, then went positive
[15:12] {dino} luv chaos markets
[15:13] {shorty} lol......
[15:14] {Threei} AIG
[15:14] {Threei} long if breaks .80
[15:15] {shorty} frozen here
[15:15] {nemo} invalidated?
[15:15] {Threei} yes, too far from there now
[15:15] {dino} whoosh down imo
[15:15] {Threei} wanted to see that huge offer taken as indication
[15:15] {nemo} I would think market should sell off from here
[15:15] {dino} need quotes shorty?
[15:15] {shorty} lol....yup
[15:15] {Threei} shorty, your broker is not good for these fast conditions
[15:15] {dino} what ones
[15:16] {shorty} ups
[15:16] {dino} .47
[15:16] {dino} 63.47
[15:16] {shorty} thx....had it short .66
[15:16] {dino} bouncing
[15:17] {shorty} Back up.
[15:17] {shorty} covered .50
[15:17] {dino} gj
[15:18] {shorty} Thanks. I like these type of stocks. I have a feeling that I might need to deposit more cash in my account though if I trade like I did yesterday.
[15:21] {dptl} have a good weekend all.......see ya monday
[15:21] {shorty} Good weekend dptl
[15:21] {RonS} have a good one dp
[15:21] {dino} cya dp
[15:21] {Threei} take care dp
[15:22] {dino} vip
[15:22] {Threei} next week will be very interesting
[15:23] {Threei} no boredom in cards
[15:23] {nemo} yeah, depending on what happens this weekend :)
[15:23] {Threei} whatever happens, I believe boredom is not going to be an issue, lol
[15:23] {nemo} nope
[15:23] {nemo} tranquilizers
[15:24] {strider} in-valium-idated?
[15:24] {Threei} I have to say, these internet dsconnections were the most unnerving componenet for me
[15:24] {Threei} should be over today
[15:25] {Threei} imagine having open position in yesterday's market and lose internet
[15:26] {RonS} u were lucky...seeing -50/+50 .spx in minutes was unnerving
[15:26] {Threei} thank goodness I got kicked off before that hoopla started
[15:26] {Threei} nah, I would be delighted tio see that show
[15:26] {nemo} Imagine having Fidelity as a broker trying to cancel orders, and having to call to get the cancel go through as your getting killed
[15:26] {RonS} ...but dino held us tough...
[15:27] {Threei} Fidelity?
[15:27] {Threei} for day trading?
[15:27] {Threei} anyone who does that fully deserves to get his a$$ kicked
[15:27] {nemo} two years ago in the middle of a trade when the day ended, cancel order got backed up.oooooooowwwwwwww
[15:27] {RonS} ...hey i use Fidelity ATP and it works just fine...
[15:27] {nemo} Yeah, well I learned. THE HARD WAY
06[15:27] * nemo slaps RonS around a bit with a large Lead Pipe
[15:27] {Threei} lol
[15:28] {RonS} ...two years ago they did have burps...but it has been stellar since...
[15:28] {nemo} make sure you don't cancel orders to close to close with Fidelity Ron....there execution gets backed up
[15:28] {nemo} Frickin' $2500 burp
[15:28] {Threei} Ron... you are not kidding?
[15:28] {dino} thx ron
[15:29] {RonS} ...i am not kidding
[15:29] {Threei} well... I think you just never tried real broker then :)
[15:29] {Threei} or you would know just how slow yours is
[15:29] {dino} you direct access ron?
[15:29] {nemo} yeah, executions LASER sneaks in amazes me
[15:30] {RonS} ...prob not...but i have many accounts to manage
[15:31] {Threei} Market Internals update at 15:30ET
[15:31] {Threei} - NYSE volume 1.89B shares, about 130% above its three-month average; decliners lead advancers by 5.6:1.
[15:31] {Threei} - NASDAQ volume 3.56B shares, about 80% above its three-month average; decliners lead advancers by 3.4:1.
[15:31] {Threei} - VIX index +19.5% at just over 39.00
[15:31] {RonS} ...i have never used direct for stock...just options
[15:31] {dino} some china stocks holding, pwrd, snda, cagc
[15:32] {Threei} I would suggest to consider direct access for your day trading account...
[15:32] {RonS} ...if anyone ever wants an education on how to effectively execute options trades just ask.
[15:32] {Threei} once you try it, you will be scared to think you day traded with that
[15:32] {dino} could be magin calls hitting
[15:33] {nemo} or simply Friday afternoon after this week
[15:33] {RonS} ...maybe in a while Vad...
[15:33] {dino} good point
[15:33] {Threei} sure... it's not going anywhere
[15:33] {nemo} you know what they say about opinions Dino
[15:34] {Threei} justy scary to think you are doing intraday trades with nondirect access :)
[15:34] {dino} agree w/vad on the direct access ron, will blow you away
[15:34] {Threei} it's like you'll be making circles around yourself
[15:34] {Threei} so fast you are going to be
[15:35] {shorty} Have a good weekend everyone.
[15:35] {Threei} take care shorty
[15:35] {dino} cya shorty
[15:35] {dino} fdx sm l .60
[15:35] {Threei} looking maybe for one last short for today
[15:36] {RonS} ...agree that it has been a challenge with your trades.
[15:36] {shorty} Thanks Threei, dino for your picks.
[15:36] {jfjf64} now ya talkin
[15:36] {Threei} feels like most should want to dump what they have before going to weekend
[15:36] {jfjf64} put ya short hat on 3i
[15:37] {Threei} although who knows... if they patch Greece over the weekend, kicking the can down the road may give temporary lift to things
[15:37] {Threei} LVS
[15:37] {Threei} bouncing into resistance
[15:37] {Threei} too last
[15:37] {dino} fcx
[15:37] {Threei} late
[15:38] {larisa} interesting, i see it bottoming :)
[15:38] {nemo} trendline is up
[15:38] {Threei} FCX
[15:38] {Threei} 67 break
[15:38] {Threei} if stays under .15
[15:38] {Threei} half lot
[15:39] {dino} depends on mkt larisa
[15:39] {Threei} really
[15:40] {Threei} no go FCX
[15:41] {larisa} have a good weekend guys :)
[15:41] {Threei} see you on Monday larisa
[15:41] {dino} cya lari
[15:42] {dino} ugh missed fcx
[15:42] {dino} out fdx .00, +.40
[15:44] {RonS} awright i am done...have a good one all....;)
[15:45] {Threei} you too Ron
[15:45] {fernp} gotta go. Have a great weekend everybody. See you soon guys. Be happy :-)
[15:45] {Threei} take care fern, we will be here
[15:46] {dino} cya ron
[15:46] {dino} cya fern
[15:48] {dino} qcom held
[15:49] {dino} ok shorts time to start covering
[15:49] {dino} hans
[15:51] {nemo} Have a nice weekend folks
[15:51] {dino} cya nemo
[15:51] {Threei} take care nemo'
[15:51] {nemo} take it any way I can get it Vad...
[15:54] {jfjf64} mhk s .49
[15:55] {Threei} ok guys, adventurous week
[15:55] {dino} 4 min. jf
[15:55] {Threei} jf, you are aware of time, don't you
[15:55] {jfjf64} y
[15:55] {jfjf64} .99
[15:55] {Threei} that's dedication
[15:55] {Threei} lol
[15:56] {dino} gj
[15:56] {Threei} let's get well desrved weekend
[15:56] {jfjf64} good weekend all
[15:56] {Threei} see you all on Monday
[15:57] {dino} cya 3i
[15:59] {dino} my bad, forgot ctrp out .95 -.08