Thursday, June 16, 2011

Jun 16 2011

Perfectly profitable day with trades working like charm, short and long (mostly short), with good variety of names: TZA, RIMM, SLW, FCX, X, YOKU, MOS...


 Catch of the Day today is one of our "bread and butter" setups - double bottom on MOS. All classic signs of reversal are listed in the notes on the chart. They repeat in most double bottom/tops, so no further comments needed. Almost two dollars bounce for 10-15 cents risk - not too shabby.



Session Time: Thu Jun 16 00:00:00 2011
[07:52] {nemo} WE WON!!!
[08:30] {Threei} *(US) MAY HOUSING STARTS: 560K V 545KE; BUILDING PERMITS: 612K V 557KE
[08:30] {Threei} (US) INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 414K V 420KE
[08:30] {Threei} CONTINUING CLAIMS: 3.675M V 3.67ME
06[08:31] * Threei slaps nemo around a bit with a big screen TV and hockey stick
[08:35] {nemo} hehehehehe
[08:55] {RonS} gm...guess canadians really are different
[08:55] {RonS} they riot when they lose
[08:55] {nemo} hehehe
[08:55] {nemo} Hosers!!!!
[08:55] {Threei} hmmm... as a one, I can't help but ask... why?
[08:55] {Threei} oh
[08:55] {Threei} lol
[08:55] {Threei} idiots
[08:55] {davd} nice sportsmanship 3ii
[08:55] {dino} gm all
[08:56] {Threei} davd, dino :)
[08:56] {RonS} in u.s. riot when they win
[08:56] {davd} i saw you on tv throwing a vodka bottle at a mountie
[08:56] {RonS} lol dave
[08:56] {Threei} it was simple empty return, davd... camera missed moment 1 min earlier when he throwed full one to me
[08:57] {Threei} threw?
[08:57] {Threei} lol
[08:57] {davd} i guess the news was good - spy back in the green after hitting a real low at 8:15am
[08:58] {davd} should the market go down because rioting in vancouver too?
[08:58] {Threei} yeah, unemployment numbers were more or less dexcent
[08:58] {Threei} only to be revised 1 week later of course, but...
[08:58] {davd} actually, they sucked, but but didnt suck worse
[08:58] {Threei} and housing starts are up a little
[09:01] {Threei} Foreclosure fall for 8th straight month
[09:01] {Threei} well, they must run out of houses to foreclose at some point, no?
[09:05] {davd} actually - a lot of them are under water, literally, along the mississippi
[09:06] {davd} nature's forclosure - flooding
[09:06] {Threei} can we called it "naturally foreclosed"?
[09:06] {Threei} call
[09:07] {davd} dont think of it as a disaster, just economic stimulus
[09:09] {Threei} Barney Frank made a very astute comment about Romney as presidential candidate
[09:09] {davd} 10 am philly fed report
[09:09] {Threei} he is not qualified per barney - because he didn't wear a tie to the debate
[09:10] {Threei} I hold nemo responsible for barney being in the position he is
[09:10] {davd} or because his religion says that barney will go to hell for being a puffer
[09:14] {dino} foreclosuers are down because of lawsuits against banks, inventory at banks of forclosures are way up
[09:16] {rizvisy1} gm all
[09:16] {Threei} riz :)
[09:16] {larisa} gm :)
[09:16] {Threei} larisa :)
[09:17] {larisa} vad :)
[09:17] {Threei} I must admit, after reading Palin's "letter from God" I start changing my mind about her
[09:19] {Threei} video on canadian TV, imbeciles beating up the man who tried to stop the looting
[09:20] {Threei} can't believe this...
[09:21] {Threei} we didn't win a game, so let's burn stuff, break windows and steal things
[09:24] {Threei} no firm read on first market move
[09:24] {Threei} will probably skip first minutes
[09:25] {ese} morning........US Open golf tournament starts today
[09:26] {Threei} ese :)
[09:26] {nemo} we've heard that one before
[09:26] {davd} hope vancouver does well in the tournie :s
[09:27] {Threei} lol, no kidding
[09:27] {Threei} otherwise city might be levelled
[09:28] {ese} this is why vad and I live here
[09:28] {nemo} might as well short slw
[09:28] {Threei} well, it's certainly a consideration
[09:29] {Threei} hope everyone looked at http://tradinglog.realitytrader.com/2011/06/jun-15-2011.html
[09:29] {Threei} those charts help see where market is
[09:29] {Threei} bigger picture so to speak
[09:29] {nemo} well, fcx was a short off the bat
[09:29] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:30] {Threei} jf :)
[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW .90 break
[09:32] {Threei} 1:1 if you got it
[09:33] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX .20 break
[09:34] {Threei} trail stop to .25
[09:34] {Threei} was 1 cent of 1:1
[09:34] {jfjf64} still in slw
[09:35] {Threei} no
[09:35] {Threei} out FCX
[09:36] {nemo} Wiener stepped down
[09:37] {jfjf64} yeah
[09:37] {Threei} (EU) Fitch sovereign analyst Riley: Does not believe that the euro zone will break apart, feels that the EU policy response to the Greece situation made the crisis worse
[09:37] {RonS} O probable promised him a job...
[09:37] {RonS} probably
[09:37] {nemo} I think, if not today, we have a mother of a sell off tomorrow...who the hell will want to go into the weekend long
[09:38] {RonS} quad witch peg imo
[09:38] {nemo} yeah...but...Greece/Spain
[09:39] {dino} want to get those gaps below filled 11859, 2202, 1257
[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: X .30 break
[09:39] {Threei} half lot
[09:39] {Threei} too fast
[09:39] {Threei} ok, second chance
[09:39] {nemo} phewww...thought you were going to tell me I should have had it up
[09:40] {Threei} no but you should be executing into bounce instead of typing that
[09:40] {Threei} 1;1
[09:40] {dino} tfm sm l .88
[09:40] {dino} .99 i mean
[09:40] {Threei} got any wise comeback for that?? :)
[09:41] {Threei} not the third time
[09:43] {Threei} wow
[09:43] {Threei} nice smackdown
[09:44] {Threei} who said not to go for the third time?
[09:44] {Threei} should be taken outside and shot
[09:47] {Threei} Long Setup: LVS .30 break
[09:47] {Threei} if stays above .20 of course
[09:48] {Threei} in aggressively .23
[09:48] {Threei} and .24
[09:48] {Threei} stop .15
[09:49] {Threei} no go
[09:49] {Threei} Long Setup: SLW .90 break
[09:49] {Threei} if holding .80
[09:51] {rizvisy1} too volatile to catch market
[09:51] {dino} afl sm l .15
[09:51] {Threei} hmm? easy entry SLW
[09:51] {Threei} target 31.30
[09:51] {Threei} 3 partials
[09:54] {Natali} gm:)
[09:54] {Threei} struggle
[09:54] {Threei} natali :)
[09:55] {Threei} stopped
[09:56] {RonS} philly 4 min
[09:57] {Threei} yep, waiting them out
[09:59] {samire} quick market
[09:59] {samire} x is tanking
[09:59] {rizvisy1} basic material -0.74% today
[10:00] {Threei} *(US) JUN PHILADELPHIA FED: -7.7 V 7.0E
[10:00] {jfjf64} woww
[10:00] {dino} stop afl -.33
[10:00] {dino} doesn't feel right
[10:00] {dino} tfm stop-.32
[10:00] {dino} 2202 filled
[10:01] {Threei} watching FCX for bounce
[10:01] {Threei} (psst nemo, put it on the screen)
[10:01] {jfjf64} lol
[10:01] {dino} pomo stopping at worst possible time
[10:02] {Threei} not even saying it should have never started
[10:02] {Threei} Long Setup: FCX .70 break
[10:02] {Threei} stop under .60
[10:02] {Threei} play half lots
[10:02] {Threei} volatility is huge
[10:02] {jfjf64} too late
[10:03] {jfjf64} bouncccccccccccccccccc
[10:03] {Threei} 1 cent to 1;1...
[10:04] {rizvisy1} I was saying about this volatility...
[10:04] {Threei} (GR) Moody's: Greece economy in multi-year recession; Sees 2011 contraction of 3.3%
[10:05] {Threei} 1:1
[10:05] {jfjf64} you got a fight
[10:05] {Threei} and won it
[10:06] {Threei} 1:2 baby
[10:06] {Threei} me out
[10:06] {jfjf64} you got a fight
[10:06] {Threei} your finger got stuck
[10:06] {jfjf64} lol
[10:06] {Threei} :)
[10:06] {jfjf64} ty
[10:06] {Threei} welcome
[10:07] {jfjf64} volatility
[10:07] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW .65 break
[10:08] {Threei} invalidated
[10:09] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW .75 break
[10:10] {dino} out fdx .02 +.32 ty 3i
[10:10] {Threei} me?
[10:10] {dino} fcx
[10:10] {Threei} welcome of course but I didn't call it
[10:10] {Threei} ah
[10:10] {Threei} :)
[10:10] {dino} can't type today
[10:10] {Threei} SLW 1;1
[10:10] {Threei} today?? you are lucky then
[10:11] {Threei} I can't type, period
[10:11] {dino} yeah, right
[10:11] {Threei} well, considering that I type qwith fins, it may be not too bad of performance
[10:12] {dino} wlk sm l .47
[10:14] {Threei} bipolar market
[10:14] {davd} threei i still have fcx please advise?
[10:15] {Threei} I would be so out, davd
[10:15] {Threei} they wouldn't find me with brightest possibkle headlights on a sunny noon, so out I would be
[10:15] {dino} gj davd
[10:16] {davd} ii
[10:16] {RonS} big es seller here dave in the futes
[10:20] {Threei} Short Setup: YOKU .50 break
[10:20] {Threei} half lot
[10:20] {Threei} if stayns under .65
[10:20] {Threei} even smaller shares
[10:20] {Threei} haf lot maybe too much for this one
[10:21] {Threei} 1;1
[10:25] {Threei} Long Setup: TZA .10 break
[10:27] {jfjf64} cop dtop
[10:27] {jfjf64} ??
[10:27] {samire} is tza still valid
[10:27] {rizvisy1} .10 cents spread in YOKU, wow
[10:27] {Threei} not sure, watching
[10:28] {Threei} that's why "smaller shares" comment, riz
[10:28] {rizvisy1} yeah
[10:29] {Threei} ok, TZA was not very clear, so who skipped it, let's try to catch it on pullback
[10:29] {rizvisy1} me
[10:29] {Threei} which t did while I typed
[10:29] {Threei} sigh
[10:30] {Threei} here it is again
[10:30] {Threei} stop under .95
[10:31] {samire} are u in ?
[10:31] {samire} tza ?
[10:31] {Threei} [10:30] {Threei} here it is again
[10:31] {Threei} [10:30] {Threei} stop under .95
[10:32] {Threei} half out
[10:32] {rizvisy1} cool Vad gj
[10:32] {Threei} stop to .05
[10:32] {Threei} want to try balance for bigger move, to about .45
[10:34] {davd} confused re tza - where are we?
[10:34] {Threei} .11
[10:35] {dino} here
[10:35] {Threei} why is it so confusing??
[10:35] {Threei} that was a break of .10 as initial trigger,
[10:35] {Threei} it was not too clear because of deeper pullback,
[10:35] {Threei} so after break and jump I made a comment about catching it on pullback into trigger
[10:35] {Threei} which it did
[10:35] {rizvisy1} TZA perfect timing Vad
[10:36] {Threei} ty
[10:36] {Threei} what should I change in the way I do running commentary so it would be clearer?
[10:36] {rizvisy1} for pull back catching
[10:36] {davd} ok - too much reading :D
[10:37] {Threei} Research in Motion Ltd O2 in the UK decides against carrying the Blackberry playbook tablet; cites end to end customer experience (update)- O2 is one of the larger carriers in the UK
[10:37] {Threei} another blow to RIMM
[10:38] {Threei} too bad, their tablet is better than Ipad at the hardware/OS level
[10:39] {Threei} (GR) IMF: Must receive a financing agreement from the EU for 12 month term as conditions for a loan to Greece
[10:41] {davd} dollar drop
[10:41] {RonS} p = poof
[10:50] {dino} .
[10:59] {RonS} pir going for a gap fill dino
[11:00] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW .77
[11:01] {Threei} if stays under .85
[11:04] {Threei} .70 break should do the trick
[11:04] {Threei} stop to .81
[11:05] {Threei} half out
[11:06] {patience} in tza
[11:07] {Threei} GR) Greece PM: Have not reached an agreement on a new Greece bailout; issues have now spread and is an issue for greater EUrope
[11:11] {Threei} the biggest mystery of these time is how Euro can be anywhere near 1.40
[11:11] {Threei} it has no business being 1.30, 1.20 or wvwn 1
[11:11] {Threei} even
[11:11] {davd} it has no business being a currency
[11:11] {Threei} right
[11:12] {_nsj100} yep
[11:12] {Threei} simply by virtue of EU having no business to exist
[11:12] {_nsj100} i like gold eagles
[11:13] {Threei} if you settle on golden eagle, I've got one:
[11:13] {Threei} https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjz45zba7XrqENpVyFib7nhylMuwEfXYdMp7CaOMylfZaxKMTRclQVrrGepzuVU6UwrKOWVzPHRiHwtdPgvl-2ey3U9b0DPYnnIeDPH0OFoL1xrquw-8vJkEDXLBo4sACHwx71HWp6hWJ4/s1600/Image00003.jpg
[11:13] {_nsj100} I like the photo
[11:14] {Threei} ty
[11:14] {RonS} pir classic db reversal which i missed...
[11:14] {_nsj100} i checked out your others too, nice
[11:14] {Threei} I also got the photo illustrating what Greece will do with loaned money:
[11:14] {Threei} https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXK24ATdeEuhE2s4F9nVHagXzJq52hbog6_bmo80YLI6sQdhmSNHNI6CELQKuzv2GKX4LhAmOKL9xk3TU366kUNEE1eU4sXJJ7bOV0DP0Gd7m9cHvWOKeZQIleh3NEBA-OPvnzhw6dVTU/s1600/Image00001.jpg
[11:14] {_nsj100} lol
[11:15] {_nsj100} a photo is worth more than 1000 words
[11:16] {Threei} wow, productive day, two imbeciles in one news item:
[11:16] {Threei} (US) Fed's Tarullo: There is a rationale to determine a range of surcharges on systemically important financial institutions (SIFI) - financial services panel comments
[11:16] {Threei} - US Treasury's Brainard: Capital surcharges for SIFIs should have an international standard
[11:16] {rizvisy1} .
[11:16] {Threei} Tarullo and Brainard, you guys are idiots
[11:16] {Threei} despite latter's last name implying otherwise
[11:17] {dino} missed pir too ron, wanted .51
[11:17] {_nsj100} get rif of them all and we can keep the surcharges
[11:18] {Threei} closed SLW balance
[11:18] {RonS} ya, had order for .45 but missed chart signal playing slw
[11:21] {RonS} crox snapping at its 10 mil sh short
[11:23] {RonS} ese sleeping?
[11:31] {RonS} yep
[11:33] {davd} good call re fcx threei - aint moving with market
[11:35] {davd} threei what is the 'tradethenews' rate re your discount
[11:36] {Threei} 10% I think... it was discussed years ago, I just don't remember
[11:36] {davd} ii
[11:42] {RonS} rimm looking like a short...
[11:44] {Threei} to me too
[11:44] {Threei} then again, everything looks like short to me most of the time, lol
[11:51] {dino} hrbn drop
[11:52] {dino} sm l .80
[11:52] {jfjf64} ? sm
[11:52] {jfjf64} .80
[11:53] {RonS} Citron "Loan Fraud and the Docs to Prove It"...hrbn
[11:54] {dino} out hrbn .10, +.30, ty ron
[11:55] {RonS} yw...may have dodged a bullet
[11:55] {dino} looks like it
[11:57] {Threei} Kids book "Go the F**K to Sleep" debuts as #1 on NY Times list
[11:57] {Threei} and then we wonder why those kids are so f**ked up?
[12:00] {RonS} lol dino was the only long in hrbn who made money today
[12:02] {dino} thx agai for the heads up on it
[12:03] {RonS} using stocktwits...seems like someone always has something on a move
[12:05] {RonS} hrbn...some scared of halt
[12:06] {Threei} why
[12:06] {Threei} reason for decline is known
[12:06] {RonS} dunno...rmbs experience?
[12:06] {Threei} circuit-breaker one is possible if volatility increases
[12:06] {Threei} that was curcuit-breaker hatl
[12:07] {RonS} so what still a halt
[12:07] {Threei} not "news dissemaination" one
[12:07] {Threei} no
[12:07] {Threei} very different
[12:07] {Threei} sharp move with no news followed by halt can continue indefinitely,
[12:07] {Threei} sometimes for weeks
[12:07] {Threei} I mean halt can continue
[12:07] {RonS} maybe possibility of junkie chinese stock halt
[12:07] {RonS} :D
[12:08] {Threei} curcuit-b reaker halt, however unpleasant, is a few minutes
[12:08] {RonS} gotcha
[12:08] {Threei} there were halts caused by exchange requesting information,
[12:08] {Threei} those are real killers
[12:09] {Threei} three weeks long one I remember
[12:09] {Threei} and finally news that came out were not too pleasant,
[12:09] {Threei} plus fear accumulated over this time, generating a lot of sell market orders
[12:09] {Threei} opening was, how to say it softly
[12:10] {Threei} like that kids book
[12:10] {Threei} fubared
[12:15] {davd} msft up on rumor
[12:15] {RonS} orcl buyout?
[12:16] {RonS} Ballmer rumored to step down after Windows 8 launch
[12:16] {RonS} rumor originated at Biz Insider
[12:20] {rizvisy1} .
[12:21] {Threei} yikes
[12:21] {Threei} http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/06/16/states_to_cut_medicaid_benefits_as_federal_help_ends/
[12:24] {RonS} man, mos broke down hard...
[12:25] {RonS} what a divergence w/ pot
[12:26] {RonS} no news that i see
[12:26] {Threei} nope
[12:27] {Threei} technical move.. 65 was very significant support
[12:27] {Threei} look inverted C&H on daily
[12:27] {Threei} from december
[12:30] {dino} sina sm l .51
[12:31] {nemo} nice dino
[12:31] {dino} thx
[12:31] {dino} out .95, +.44
[12:37] {Threei} what an unbeliavable mess:
[12:37] {Threei} (EU) ECB's Mersch: A disorderly default of a euro zone state would have devastating consequences; emphasizes that monetary policy must never monize public debts
[12:37] {Threei} - Reiterates ECB will not hesitiate to address inflation risks.
[12:37] {Threei} - It is up to governments to come up with a fiscal solution to the euro zone's problems.
[12:37] {Threei} - Disorderly default would likely cause a new financial crisis.
[12:37] {Threei} - Ratings agencies could see debt rescheduling as a credit event.
[12:37] {Threei} - ECB would not accept bonds with extended maturities as collateral.
[12:39] {Threei} Long Setup: TZA .62 if stays above .50
[12:41] {Threei} here is a beauty:
[12:41] {Threei} (GR) Greek opposition leader: weak Greek economy justifies the opposition to the austerity program
[12:41] {Threei} and strong economy wouldn't require any austerity
[12:41] {Threei} so guy has covered all bases
[12:42] {Threei} whatever angle you take, austerity is not needed
[12:42] {Threei} ok market let's reverse finally
[12:43] {Threei} if we roll over, TZA target is about .90
[12:47] {RonS} $COF Wins Bid For ING's US Online Bank for $9B
[12:58] {Threei} 1:1
[13:01] {Threei} target hit
[13:01] {Threei} my a$$ is out
[13:01] {RonS} gj ty
[13:01] {Threei} yw
[13:01] {Threei} probably will do more but I'll leave something on the tbale to more patient ones
[13:02] {_nsj100} niceeee
[13:02] {Threei} thank you but let me make one strict rule be known
[13:03] {Threei} please be careful to make clear distinction, so everyone knows you call a trade nice, not me
[13:03] {_nsj100} oh ya. sorry
[13:03] {Threei} calling me nice is sureffire way to invoke high levels on nastiness in me
[13:03] {Threei} I mean "even higher" levels
[13:04] {davd} i've never called you nice :D
[13:04] {Threei} me and nice don't even exchange postcards on Christmas
[13:04] {Threei} that's why we are still friends, davd
[13:04] {_nsj100} lol
[13:05] {Threei} 1:3 for ya, patient types
[13:05] {patience} still in
[13:06] {Threei} so, let me provide some entertainment for those of you who have vivid imagination
[13:06] {Threei} little pre-story first
[13:06] {davd} out tza .93
[13:07] {Threei} there is a big gala party next week, thrown by a local business network
[13:07] {RonS} ..."in the old soviet union..."
[13:07] {Threei} no, lol
[13:07] {Threei} not being keen to attend those, I p;olitely declined invitation, citing couple very respectable reasons
[13:08] {davd} spy sitting on vwap
[13:08] {Threei} organizers got back to me insiting on invitatio, and accomodating every of those reasons, going way out of their way to do that
[13:08] {Threei} so, declining again would be beyond the rudeness I can afford
[13:09] {Threei} so I accpeted
[13:09] {Threei} and then this hit:
[13:09] {Threei} it's a black tie event
[13:09] {Threei} so... next week, Wed evening, historic event is going to take place
[13:09] {Threei} this jeans and t-shirt guy who wears tie once a decade, going to be taxedo-claad
[13:10] {RonS} the fashion gods be crying...
[13:10] {Threei} crying?
[13:10] {Threei} I think sucide is in order for them
[13:10] {Threei} and I'll gladly provide a rope
[13:11] {RonS} ah well, it will be fun. i for one miss the days when people dressed formally
[13:12] {dino} hrbn in 9s
[13:12] {Threei} I doubt ophotos will be provided for your visual entertainment, so use your imagination and laugh all you want
[13:14] {RonS} my grandpa would put on a suit just to go to town...no weiners in those days
[13:14] {Threei} well, in old Soviet Union (Ron faints) girls would put on full makeup and dress like to the theater - to go to flea market
[13:15] {RonS} so, have it told story of Mt. Angel OR and the babushka?
[13:15] {ese} how come vad?
[13:16] {RonS} I
[13:16] {RonS} mos cannot find a bottom
[13:16] {Threei} dunno ese... just a custom I guess... you don't leave house not outting yourself in order
[13:16] {Threei} puting
[13:17] {Threei} you walk down the street, girls look like models on a catwalk
[13:19] {dino} pir sm l .60
[13:19] {ese} interesting
[13:29] {dino} pir stop -.16
[13:30] {dino} vhi drop
[13:30] {dino} thin
[13:36] {Threei} TZA is a beaut
[13:37] {Threei} I am not very proud of exit timing, but entry was timed as close to perfect as it gets
[13:41] {Threei} dollar since entry
[13:42] {dino} sina sm l .50
[13:44] {patience} still in tza
[13:45] {Threei} vertical spike
[13:46] {Threei} Global banking regulators considering making capital surcharges on largest banks (SIFIs) dependent on size and growth, could serve to deter banks from becoming too large - financial press citing sources
[13:46] {Threei} - Largest banks could face 3% capital surchage, and a 3.5% fee for banks that grow larger than they currently are.
[13:46] {Threei} amazes me...
[13:46] {Threei} who do those cretines think is going to pay that surcharge?
[13:46] {dino} sina stop -.35
[13:48] {_nsj100} another form of taxation
[13:49] {Threei} I am considering changing planet...
[13:49] {Threei} tolerating the combined level of stupidity, insanity and ineptitude on this one becomes harder by day
[13:49] {Threei} Titan on the other hand, has all those sirens...
[13:49] {_nsj100} there is always austrailia. thats another planet
[13:50] {Threei} lol
[13:50] {dino} pir rinsed
[13:55] {dino} vhi sm l ave .07
[13:56] {rizvisy1} .
[13:57] {dino} tzoo sm l .00
[14:05] {RonS} WSJ: $RIMM Says COO Don Morrison On Leave For Medical Reasons
[14:05] {dino} vhi stop
[14:05] {RonS} quote of the day: playbook made him ill...
[14:05] {nemo} yeah, to have his wrists repaired
[14:06] {Threei} lol
[14:07] {RonS} wow mos
[14:13] {RonS} mos weakness finally spilled into group mon cf pot
[14:17] {patience} vad, any sense of tza here?
[14:18] {patience} out for now +$1.08
[14:18] {Threei} SPY still looks to me like downtrending
[14:19] {patience} i see 200 day's breaking, just haven't a sense if there is intervention in the wings
[14:21] {Threei} there is a way to sense intervention?
[14:22] {Threei} or, intervention can reverse SPY?
[14:23] {patience} does this test question involve passing or failing anything?
[14:24] {RonS} wow hrbn
[14:25] {RonS} -55%
[14:25] {Threei} rather, questions the idea that intervention like this is possible, effective, meaningful in any way and/or possible to sense
[14:25] {Threei} charts are charts
[14:26] {Threei} they reflect all forces involved in the market
[14:26] {Threei} any of those forces is intervention
[14:26] {dino} sina sm l .33
[14:26] {RonS} hrbn 1 yr daily looks like hari kiri
[14:26] {Threei} you buy 1000 shares - that's intervention
[14:26] {Threei} some forces are biggr than others
[14:27] {Threei} none of them is big enough to move whole market for any signgificant time or distance
[14:27] {Threei} market is dropping for how many weeks already?
[14:28] {Threei} no one intervened? why not? why would they now?
[14:28] {dino} wtf
[14:28] {dino} calling it a day, i suck
[14:28] {RonS} ya, but i still remeber those opex fed and treasury surprises
[14:28] {Threei} take care dino, will get them tomorrow
[14:29] {dino} thx
[14:30] {RonS} unconfirmed...News is Chinese comming to EU rescue
[14:31] {Threei} haha
[14:31] {Threei} Chinese are about to face their own problems
[14:31] {Threei} with real estate bubble beginning to burst
[14:32] {RonS} quote of the day: china should get their own U
[14:32] {Threei} and their own Ponzi scheme becoming too big to live much longer
[14:33] {Threei} (GR) US Senators Corker (R-TN) and Coburn (R-OK) request Fed Chairman Bernanke issue a report on risk to US banks from a potential Greece default - US financial press
[14:36] {RonS} through chinese history it starts w/ floods and earthquakes...
[14:36] {RonS} 'nother mos downleg
[14:44] {Threei} MOS
[14:44] {Threei} double bottom here
[14:45] {dino} wow sina -44 pts in two weeks
[14:45] {Threei} if holding 60
[14:45] {Threei} invalidated
[14:50] {Threei} Long Setup: MOS .15 break
[14:51] {Threei} Long Setup: MOS .05 break
[14:51] {Threei} sorry, .05 is correct, forget .15
[14:52] {dino} 1257 filled
[14:52] {Threei} half out
[14:52] {Threei} .19
[14:52] {nemo} impressive
[14:53] {dino} gj
[14:53] {Threei} offer 1/4 above .30
[14:53] {Threei} ty
[14:53] {nemo} now...gtfo!
[14:53] {Threei} .33 1/4 out
[14:54] {Threei} decide between exiting around ,45 and trailing stop
[14:55] {RonS} took mos .00 to .45 thanks 3i
[14:55] {Threei} :)
[14:55] {rizvisy1} impressive
[14:56] {rizvisy1} 3i
[14:56] {Threei} you should see me in taxedo...
[14:56] {Threei} out .65
[15:00] {Threei} who can name the setup and list three major components that made it high odds?
[15:01] {rizvisy1} wow +1
[15:01] {Threei} bums... everyone to read COTD today
[15:02] {nemo} double bottom retest of .80 that never came and second bottom inside BBs
[15:02] {Threei} ok, two more components
[15:02] {nemo} hammer candle at .80 and second hammer candle that went no lower than .82
[15:03] {RonS} dead cat bounce off high vol reversal bar
[15:03] {nemo} that's two reversal signals
[15:03] {nemo} yes and high volume on first hammer
[15:03] {Threei} that's it
[15:03] {Threei} all of them
[15:03] {Threei} nemo gets the prize to be determined yet
[15:03] {Threei} the rest - read COTD
[15:03] {nemo} I've seen this act before
[15:03] {Threei} sure... one of our bread and butter setups
[15:03] {nemo} no
[15:04] {nemo} the "prize yet to be determined"
[15:04] {Threei} ah :)
[15:04] {nemo} this is not my first go round
[15:04] {nemo} as long as vaseline isn't included, I'm happy
[15:07] {RonS} nuts
[15:08] {RonS} ye olde scalper's regret...
[15:18] {jfjf64} thinkin slw short into boun ce here
[15:18] {jfjf64} close to 35.00
[15:18] {jfjf64} ?
[15:19] {Threei} 35?
[15:20] {RonS} this is what hit the ags today: The Senate voted to repeal a $6 billion tax credit to ethanol producers, a move that could signal the end of some federal subsidies as part of an eventual budget and debt-ceiling compromise.
[15:20] {jfjf64} yes
[15:20] {Threei} jf... SLW is at 30
[15:20] {RonS} lol
[15:20] {jfjf64} lol
[15:20] {jfjf64} lookin rimm
[15:20] {rizvisy1} 3i is it yorr call/ for SLW?
[15:21] {Threei} unless I am gopelessly drunk
[15:21] {Threei} hopelessly
[15:21] {Threei} riz... answering jf's question
[15:21] {Threei} what call
[15:21] {rizvisy1} oh ok
[15:21] {RonS} who's on first?
[15:21] {Threei} lol
[15:21] {jfjf64} slw rimm
[15:22] {jfjf64} same thing lately
[15:22] {jfjf64} no
[15:22] {Threei} ok, now you just listing symbols
[15:22] {Threei} not making much sense :)
[15:22] {jfjf64} like rimm short here
[15:22] {jfjf64} period
[15:23] {Threei} no
[15:23] {RonS} rimm ah predicition: earnings prpel price...conf call and outlook tank it
[15:23] {Threei} exclamation mark
[15:25] {RonS} wow teva daily
[15:30] {RonS} rimm options suggest a $3.20 move
[15:30] {jfjf64} im lookin for .10 cents
[15:30] {jfjf64} lol
[15:31] {RonS} that is funny...
[15:31] {jfjf64} truth
[15:31] {jfjf64} lol
[15:33] {Threei} RIMM says No 10 cents for you
[15:34] {jfjf64} bet ya
[15:35] {Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/vad/soupnazi.png
[15:35] {jfjf64} mkt spike rimm says not me
[15:36] {Threei} true
[15:36] {jfjf64} forming c/h
[15:37] {RonS} es futes at vwap
[15:38] {jfjf64} yuk
[15:39] {jfjf64} im sure rince and die
[15:44] {Threei} ok guys, no more trades for today
[15:44] {Threei} that was a very nice day
[15:44] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening
[15:44] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[15:45] {patience} 2 trades, both good, thanks vad
[15:46] {_nsj100} thank you very much

Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Jun 15 2011

Very nice day with many good plays. Most of them were short, and based on a gut feel of breakdown coming. Look at the time stamp and then at SPY 1 min chart.


[11:36] {Threei} things are about to get interesting IMO
[11:36] {Threei} minicrash is coming


You may remember my series of screenshots outlining the levels of support and resistance to watch for holding or being broken, as signs of trend changing or continuing. "Next junction" screenshot below is one of that series, showing 125- 130 range for the SPY. 


Now, 3 months later, we are back in that range - look how 130 resistance held yesterday on a low volume bounce, and we move toward 125 support once again. These levels become lines in the sand once again - break 130 and pullback is likely to be over; break 125 and downtrend is firmly established.



Session Time: Wed Jun 15 00:00:00 2011
[08:50] {davd} whoh!  buck up big
[08:51] {Threei}  and market's down as it should
[08:56] {Threei}  *(US) JUN EMPIRE MANUFACTURING: -7.8 V +12.0E; first negative reading since Nov 2010
[09:09] {Threei}  so, what gives... RIMM was weak even in yesteday's hoopla, and green now in the market gapping down?
[09:09] {Threei}  since when RIMM became a salmon
[09:11] {dino} gm all
[09:11] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:13] {dino} mind mondays gaps 2222, 1271
[09:14] {rizvisy1} gm
[09:15] {Threei}  riz :)
[09:15] {ese} gm
[09:15] {RonS} gm
[09:15] {Threei}  ese, ron :)
[09:17] {ese} vad...check out this consolidation pattern in XTXI.....daily chart.....lookin for an excuse to carry on up maybe
[09:18] {Threei}  does look very nice
[09:19] {Threei}  you in already, or looking for entry?
[09:19] {ese} don't see that very often......think i'm gonna be lookin for an entry
[09:20] {Threei}  pullback to 11.5 is kind of no brainer entry, but chances of it happening are slim
[09:21] {ese} ya
[09:21] {ese} spyders dn a point and a bit so far
[09:23] {Threei}  then again, I haven't seen it trading real tme... not sure how liquid it is
[09:23] {larisa} gm :)
[09:23] {Threei}  so let me reserve my judgement a bit
[09:23] {Threei}  larisa :)
[09:24] {ese} probably thin....avg daily vol looks around 500mil/day
[09:24] {ese} dino size if anything sm
[09:27] {dino}  on my screen
[09:27] {dino} showing 328k ave vol, not millions
[09:28] {ese} yes .......miss read it
[09:28] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:29] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:29] {Threei}  looking for bounces to short
[09:29] {Threei}  or consolidations, to do the same
[09:29] {jfjf64} ?
[09:29] {jfjf64} sorry
[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  31 break
[09:31] {Threei}  if stays underinvalidated for now
[09:31] {jfjf64} tug of war
[09:32] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .20 break
[09:33] {Threei}  stop above .30
[09:33] {dino} xtxi gap 11.03 ese, fwiw
[09:34] {dino} tfi sm l .65
[09:34] {jfjf64} yukkk
[09:34] {nemo} P Pandora open
[09:34] {Threei}  correct definition
[09:34] {nemo} I like watching train wrecks
[09:34] {ese} tks dino......have my eye on mpel as well
[09:34] {dino} out tfi .07, +.42
[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: CREE  37 break half lot
[09:36] {dino} tfm that was typo
[09:38] {Threei}  feel free to cover CREE
[09:39] {jfjf64} keepin  i  on  slw
[09:40] {Threei}  wow CREE
[09:40] {Threei}  how about that
[09:41] {_nsj100} ya baby
[09:41] {Threei}  biunce
[09:41] {Threei}  bounce too
[09:41] {Threei}  .45 break half lot
[09:41] {Threei}  if holding .35
[09:41] {Threei}  invvalidated
[09:41] {nemo} ahhh, the whistling through the graveyard play
[09:41] {Threei}  what's that, lol
[09:43] {dino} smr l fds .71, pulp type
[09:44] {dino} 07 all green
[09:46] {ese} L mpel 1/2 .10
[09:46] {dino} out fds .13, +.42
[09:47] {ese} nice dino...was that a hold from yesterday
[09:47] {Threei} Long Setup:  REE  .20 break half lot
[09:48] {dino} no, posted above
[09:48] {Threei}  keep an on MCP as leader for REE
[09:48] {Threei}  if MCP breaks .50 and runs, that should push REE
[09:48] {jfjf64} .20  has  some  shares
[09:49] {ese} funny you should asy that.......am not in but really thought about buying a K or 2 of REE yesterday......
[09:49] {dino} mos sm l .00
[09:50] {Threei}  watch MCP still for a clue
[09:50] {Threei}  if it bounce back, REE .10 break trigger
[09:50] {Threei}  yeah right
[09:50] {Threei}  back to .20 break
[09:50] {Threei}  half lot
[09:50] {Threei}  volatile
[09:51] {Threei}  ok
[09:52] {Threei}  .10 break, no more variations
[09:52] {Threei}  either this one triggers or I am losing interest
[09:54] {Threei}  MCP trying
[09:54] {Threei}  in .007
[09:54] {ese} MPEL......do the whole day thing
[09:54] {Threei}  .95 stop
[09:55] {dino} out mos .45, +.45
[09:56] {RonS} took mos .13 to .45 +.32  thanks dino
[09:56] {Threei}  nice on guys
[09:56] {Threei}  one
[09:57] {Threei}  out REE
[09:57] {RonS} took mpel .10 to .22  +.12  thanks ese
[09:57] {Threei}  MCP losing ground
[09:57] {ese} cool ron
[09:58] {davd} ree was the news affecting mcp
[09:58] {ese} MPEL stop to break even.10
[09:58] {Threei}  but MCP leads
[09:58] {dino} gj ron
[09:58] {Threei}  see how it moves first, then REE folows
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) JUN NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 13 V 16E
[10:01] {RonS} lvs perky
[10:02] {Threei}  keeping it on radar
[10:02] {Threei}  with long in mind
[10:02] {Threei}  wanted it under .60
[10:02] {RonS} sands macau scored a huge refi deal
[10:04] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .60 break
[10:05] {Threei}  1:1
[10:05] {dino} srdx sm l .86
[10:05] {Threei}  half out
[10:05] {Threei}  stop .54
[10:05] {pragmatic} .60 break ?
[10:05] {Threei}  ?
[10:06] {nemo} yeah, it was already above that
[10:06] {Threei}  ??
[10:06] {Threei}  it was .57
[10:06] {nemo} lvs
[10:06] {nemo} not by the time I got there
[10:06] {Threei}  maybe, but we spoke about it, so I assume you'd have it already on the screen?
[10:07] {Threei}  [10:01] {RonS} lvs perky
[10:07] {Threei}  [10:02] {Threei} keeping it on radar
[10:07] {Threei}  [10:02] {Threei} with long in mind
[10:07] {Threei}  [10:02] {Threei} wanted it under .60
[10:07] {dino} panl sm l .30
[10:07] {Threei}  1:2, 1/4 out
[10:08] {ese} MPEL stop to .19
[10:09] {Threei}  1:3 close enough, out
[10:09] {Threei}  what should I do, add alert "put ABCD on your screens"??
[10:09] {Threei}  come on guys...
[10:09] {ese} out mpel .30 +.20
[10:10] {RonS} gj ese
[10:10] {jfjf64} ty
[10:10] {nemo} I wouldn't worry about it Vad.  If we don't have it on our screens, that's our issue
[10:11] {nemo} I was just stating when I typed it in, which was pretty much straight away, it had already popped
[10:11] {Threei}  yeah, but remarks make it sound like the alert is not valid
[10:11] {nemo} Just like you've had stocks pop when you were typing in the entry
[10:11] {ese} tks ron
[10:12] {pragmatic} to calrify things, I was watching different stock at all, which was past below .60, that is why the "?" :)
[10:12] {nemo} If we're in this room, the caveat is the market is unfair
[10:12] {nemo} oh shit, he's picking up on your typing already
[10:13] {Threei}  OK, everyone go out today after market and buy on of them mind reading devices
[10:13] {Threei}  and I won't be wasting time on typing symbols at all
[10:13] {nemo} No FRICKIN way I want to know what's going on in YOUR mind
[10:13] {Threei}  alerts will be like "buy
[10:13] {Threei}  now sell
[10:13] {jfjf64} whats  going  on here
[10:13] {Threei}  hmmm... that's actually a good point
[10:13] {nemo} go back to bed jf
[10:13] {Threei}  RIMM
[10:14] {Threei}  what just happened to it
[10:14] {nemo} buy
[10:14] {nemo} no sell
[10:14] {nemo} no buy
[10:14] {jfjf64} your  driving  the  man  crazy
[10:14] {Threei}  40 cents drop in two bars, no news
[10:14] {Threei}  .60 support to break
[10:14] {Threei}  like last line of defense
[10:14] {dino} me too jf, lost
[10:15] {Threei}  me three
[10:15] {nemo} u r already there
[10:16] {ese} daaaaaa....wasn't paying attention to XTXI
[10:17] {RonS} oil inventory at :30
[10:17] {RonS} xtxi gas or oil or both?
[10:17] {Threei}  LVS is back to entry
[10:17] {Threei}  intereasted again
[10:18] {Threei}  put it on your screens
[10:18] {nemo} Gordon Gekko and the honey pot?
[10:18] {nemo} would like .40 area myself
[10:18] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .60 break
[10:18] {Threei}  if holding .50
[10:19] {dino} panl stop-.31
[10:20] {Threei}  no go this time
[10:22] {Threei}  (US) DOE Secretary Chu: Reiterates all tools are on the table if there is a supply disruption - CNBC
[10:22] {Threei}  - Response to questions about possibility of a crude swap first indicated in reports yesterday
[10:22] {Threei}  - Reminder: there were reports that US and Saudi officials met to discuss exchanging urgently-needed high-quality crude oil stored in the US SPR for heavier, low-quality oil from Saudi Arabia, according to people familiar with the plan. The idea involved shipping some of the light low-sulphur, or "sweet", crude out of the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve to European refiners.
[10:22] {Threei}  where is this stuff with "supply disruption" coming from?
[10:22] {RonS} libya
[10:23] {Threei}  but US is not getting oil from Libya
[10:23] {RonS} but europe does
[10:23] {RonS} refineries set up for light sweet
[10:23] {Threei}  but headline above discusses US SPR
[10:23] {RonS} and a swap  sheesh
[10:25] {dino} srdx stop -.36
[10:25] {rizvisy1} RIMM is under consideration for .60 Break?
[10:25] {Threei}  looks like
[10:25] {Threei}  need it to define resistance
[10:26] {rizvisy1} your call...
[10:26] {Threei}  ummm
[10:26] {rizvisy1} hah
[10:26] {Threei}  can I call .60 break now?
[10:26] {Threei}  lol
[10:26] {nemo} on what?
[10:26] {rizvisy1} too late sir
[10:26] {jfjf64} whats  going on  here
[10:26] {nemo} DST dino
[10:27] {nemo} go back to bed JF
[10:27] {jfjf64} lol
[10:27] {rizvisy1} .5 may be
[10:27] {Threei}  let's see if iot bounces back to .60
[10:27] {nemo} where's that ignore button?
[10:27] {jfjf64} what
[10:27] {jfjf64} ??
[10:27] {dino} buyout interest dst
[10:27] {jfjf64} lol
[10:27] {Threei}  10:25] {rizvisy1} RIMM is under consideration for .60 Break?
[10:27] {RonS} DST Systems jumps on private equity interest, support is at $55.33       06/15 07:44 AM
[10:27] {jfjf64} joking
[10:27] {jfjf64} im on point
[10:28] {Threei}  ok
[10:28] {jfjf64} believe it or  NOT
[10:28] {RonS} DST Systems Said To Get Buyout Offers In Mid-$60s Range Reuters       06/15 07:15 AM
[10:28] {jfjf64} its  this  nemo
[10:28] {Threei}  low volume bounce
[10:28] {Threei}  right into .60
[10:29] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM  .55 break
[10:29] {pragmatic} FCX - .3 +15
[10:30] {Threei}  *DOE CRUDE: -3.4M V 0E; GASOLINE: -570K V +500KE; DISTILLATE: -100K V +1ME; UTILIZATION: % V 87.4%E
[10:30] {samire} did rimm triggered ?
[10:31] {Threei}  here
[10:31] {Threei}  let's keep funny stop, anobe .60
[10:31] {Threei}  abive
[10:32] {Threei}  above
[10:32] {nemo} put the bottle down, Vad
[10:32] {Threei}  there,,, jus on third attempt
[10:32] {Threei}  market drops
[10:32] {Threei}  come on RIMM
[10:32] {Threei}  no
[10:33] {nemo} they should rename the company "Wrongway"  better
[10:33] {nemo} better yet....
[10:33] {nemo} "Event Horizon"
[10:33] {Threei}  .65 is more normal stop but something isn't right here
[10:33] {nemo} it's right on the RIMM of a blackhole anyway
[10:37] {Threei}  there... would have been stopped anyway
[10:37] {Threei}  (GR) Greece PM sets forth proposals for a national unity Govt, may step down if agreement is reached for unity - financial press citing sources
[10:38] {nemo} bby
[10:44] {Threei} Long Setup:  X  .20 break
[10:44] {dino}  srdx sm l .40
[10:44] {Threei}  half lot
[10:44] {Threei}  stop .05
[10:45] {Threei}  target .45 - .50, two partials
[10:45] {Threei}  half out
[10:46] {Threei}  .32
[10:46] {Threei}  stop to .19
[10:46] {jfjf64} ty
[10:47] {Threei}  crap, wanted FCX .20 break too but was a little late on alert there
[10:47] {dino} mos sm l .82
[10:50] {rizvisy1} Thats nice one Vad on X entry ty
[10:51] {Threei}  yw
[10:51] {jfjf64} still in
[10:51] {Threei}  half
[10:51] {jfjf64} y
[10:51] {jfjf64} me  2
[10:51] {jfjf64} lol
[10:54] {Threei}  toghtening to .25
[10:54] {jfjf64} big  pushhhh
[10:55] {jfjf64} sell into buying
[10:55] {nemo} ntap break .05
[10:55] {Threei}  out .47
[10:55] {jfjf64} out
[10:55] {jfjf64} ty
[10:55] {jfjf64} me  2
[10:55] {jfjf64} lol
[10:55] {Threei}  right into target
[10:56] {jfjf64} you  alrighrt  3i
[10:56] {jfjf64} keep ya  round
[10:56] {Threei}  thank you kind sir
[10:57] {Threei}  FCX
[10:57] {Threei}  pullback inbto lower BB
[10:57] {Threei}  tightening band
[10:58] {Threei}  case of "just grab it here," lol
[10:59] {ese} still lookin for a REE entry
[11:00] {ese} totally missed XTXI
[11:00] {Threei}  .50 zone was it
[11:00] {ese} nice controlled MPEL pullback
[11:00] {ese} ya.......
[11:05] {Threei} Short Setup: GS  .50 break
[11:05] {Threei}  half lot
[11:06] {Threei}  .65 stop
[11:07] {Threei}  lat's trail to .61
[11:07] {Threei}  aim to cover half under .40 and half closer to .20
[11:10] {Threei}  lose that .40 and die, GS
[11:10] {Threei}  good boy
[11:10] {Threei}  half out
[11:10] {Threei}  stop to .55
[11:15] {Threei}  stop to .52
[11:15] {Threei}  come on GS, just a few more cents
[11:17] {davd} dollar hod re uup
[11:17] {Threei}  good
[11:17] {Threei}  time to put an end to this national shame
[11:17] {Threei}  and restore mighty green buck in all its former glory
[11:17] {Threei}  as in 1913 levels
[11:18] {Threei}  wait for me, I need to laugh it out... be back in 2
[11:18] {Threei}  OK, all done
[11:18] {davd} its just a day 3ii dont get too excited
[11:19] {Threei}  yeah... but hey, ca a man dream??
[11:19] {_nsj100} the reality of it makes me cry
[11:19] {Threei}  out GS balance
[11:20] {Threei}  greed got better of me, should have taken that .30
[11:20] {Threei}  losing frikin 97% of dollar value since Fed inception... and Fed says its mandate is to fight inflation?
[11:20] {Threei}  good job folks
[11:21] {_nsj100} thats what they get paid for
[11:22] {_nsj100} hey waite,we pay them.
[11:22] {Threei}  rather, they extract their pay from us
[11:22] {Threei}  since we are captive audience
[11:22] {_nsj100} ya
[11:24] {Threei}  GS at target
[11:24] {Threei}  overtightened stop a little
[11:25] {dino} smr l sina .60
[11:26] {Threei}  (CH) Senator Schumer (D-NY): Looking for support for a bill targeting China on FX issues - US financial press
[11:33] {RonS} fcx s .00 break 3i?
[11:33] {Threei}  (GR) Greece conservative opposition's position said to be that a national unity government is only possible if current PM resigns, bailout is renegotiated - financial press
[11:33] {Threei}  need little bounce first ron
[11:34] {Threei}  to establish a range
[11:34] {Threei}  otherwisxe snpaback chance is too big
[11:34] {Threei}  or at least couple min of consolidation
[11:34] {Threei}  OK, I am satisfied
[11:35] {Threei}  short the bastard on a break
[11:35] {samire} green day so far
[11:35] {Threei}  yes but has more potential
[11:36] {Threei}  things are about to get interesting IMO
[11:36] {Threei}  minicrash is coming
[11:36] {Threei}  die FCX
[11:37] {Threei}  1:1
[11:37] {Threei}  1:2
[11:37] {RonS} .98 to .82  thxs 3i
[11:38] {Threei}  your find
[11:38] {Threei}  thank yourself
[11:38] {dino} gj
[11:38] {Threei}  and I don't mean it in a rude way
[11:38] {Threei}  lol
[11:38] {RonS} wouldn't care if it was...lol
[11:38] {Threei}  I know :)
[11:39] {Threei}  1:3, over and out
[11:39] {Threei}  now, how about timing and precision of this:
[11:39] {Threei}  [11:36] {Threei} things are about to get interesting IMO
[11:39] {Threei}  [11:36] {Threei} minicrash is coming
[11:40] {rizvisy1} was it a general call Vad, we missed it...lol
[11:40] {Threei}  well, my only regret is not having time to add a TZA call
[11:41] {Threei}  .75 - .80 break at the moment
[11:41] {RonS} euro cracking below 1.42
[11:42] {Threei}  envision a man standing on the brink of a abyss, back turned to it, heels are right on the edge, flailing his arms in the air trying to keep balance and losing it losing it...
[11:42] {Threei}  this is how SPY felt at the moment
[11:45] {dino} s/p filled
[11:45] {dino} next 1257
[11:46] {RonS} rimm not going down
[11:48] {ese} L REE.55
[11:49] {Threei}  stop under .40 ese?
[11:49] {ese} ya
[11:49] {Threei}  because market is not done selling yet it seems
[11:50] {Threei}  as I'd say if I couldn't spell, "be karephool"
[11:50] {ese} ya ...could get rinsed here
[11:51] {Threei}  (I can see Raven fainiting at this sight of new low in English butchering)
[11:51] {ese} lol
[11:51] {dino} nice gut feel 3i
[11:51] {Threei}  ty
[11:51] {dino} ndx filled, next 2202
[11:52] {nemo} miss anything?
[11:52] {ese} nah
[11:52] {ese} everybody's feeling vad gut
[11:53] {ese} hmmmmmmmm....wrong interpretation
[11:53] {Threei}  hmmm
[11:53] {Threei}  I will defend my gut ferociously
[11:54] {nemo} weird
[11:54] {ese} lol.....we dfinitely are
[11:54] {Threei}  btw ese, there is way less gut to feel... you won't believe your eyes when you see me, 22 pounds down
[11:55] {dino} meli sm l .00
[11:56] {dino} etg vad, but wondering why ese is feeling your gut
[11:56] {Threei}  I was wiondering about that too, but then decided I don't really want to find out
[11:56] {RonS} buddha effect
[11:57] {ese} we definitely are weird
[11:58] {ese} gettin rinsed is looking me the eye here
[12:00] {ese} Shiskabob party?    would be 4th or 5th annual for me
[12:00] {ese} ree....get your act together
[12:01] {ese} triple 1 min bottom
[12:03] {ese} bastard......got filled at .35
[12:05] {dino} fds sm l .96 ave
[12:08] {dino} whr sm l .24
[12:08] {nemo} vwap .70 on whr
[12:10] {nemo} also S1 pivot level, that's likely your ceiling on a weak day
[12:11] {patience} ese, did vad say shish kabob?
[12:11] {dino} ty
[12:14] {ese} ya......last week i think
[12:16] {Threei}  let me finish my dieting first, will ya...
[12:17] {ese} L REE ,45
[12:19] {patience} in tza
[12:21] {RonS} eur 141.56
[12:22] {RonS} if loses .50 look out
[12:22] {dino} damn, bit of drop
[12:22] {dino} back in 30 or so
[12:22] {Threei}  Euro vs US Dollar Hits fresh sessions lows, approaching the 14170 support line
[12:24] {Threei}  15:47] {Threei} gap and stall right under 130 resistance, on lower volume than red days
[12:24] {Threei}  [15:47] {Threei} hopefully it's a sign of downtrend continuation
[12:24] {Threei}  look at SPY daily
[12:24] {Threei}  so far, everyhting looks right,
[12:25] {Threei}  if we don't out a double bottom in here, downtrend is all but sealed
[12:25] {Threei}  nearest support is 125
[12:25] {Threei}  if/whe it's broken, it's good night irene
[12:26] {RonS} 2.6 mil contract algo buyer here...might get overwhelmed .vix 21.18
[12:42] {Threei}  http://www.thedisciplinedtraderblog.com/mind-issues/newsletter/from-the-psychology-of-profit-newsletter-learn-from-our-students
[13:00] {Threei}  (IA) Iran is said to have successfully launched a satellite into space - Iran state tv
[13:00] {Threei}  ***NOTE: Iran launched its first satellite into space in Feb 2009. Note that back in December 2010, Iran Defense Min Vahidi said Iran would launch a reconnaissance satellite in the next few months.
[13:01] {rizvisy1} Vad is keeping good eye on Iran....
[13:01] {Threei}  lol
[13:01] {Threei}  not really
[13:02] {Threei}  IEA Chief Economist: If oil prices remain high, a risk for a US double dip recession exists; are monitoring whether to release strategic reserves on a daily basis
[13:02] {Threei}  - Will use volume of available oil rather than oil price as a determinant of whether or not to release oil from the strategic petroleum reserve, may be released if Saudi Arabi fails to replace the lost Libyan oil production
[13:02] {rizvisy1} Thats ok, it is good to remain informed
[13:03] {Threei}  I still don't get the connection with SPR and Lybian oil
[13:03] {nemo} politically expedient
[13:04] {RonS} again, reserve oil light sweet, saudi oil heavy...reserve to europe saudi to reserve...a swap
[13:05] {Threei}  this part I understand
[13:05] {Threei}  I don't understand why US needs that
[13:05] {RonS} europe does
[13:05] {Threei}  well, this part I understand too :)
[13:06] {Threei}  anyway, as far as Irna/mid east news concerned, to me it looks this way
[13:07] {Threei}  as market influencing news, Europe situation takes main tole at this point
[13:07] {Threei}  Iran and Mid East is potentially influencing issues, on a back burner at this point
[13:08] {Threei}  so mostly I lay attention to Europe developmenta, while keeping half eye on news from Iran and that corner of the world overall
[13:08] {Threei}  lay = pay
[13:12] {nemo} .50 level on SIAN unbeleivable
[13:12] {nemo} SINA
[13:13] {nemo} unbelievable
[13:15] {RonS} oil futes below yest lod 96.30
[13:16] {nemo} hah, should have waited until today to fill up
[13:17] {RonS} w/ crack spreads north of $30 it does not matter
[13:18] {nemo} gas has been dropping, just not that fast, after July 4th
[13:19] {Threei} Short Setup: SINA
[13:19] {Threei}  .50 break
[13:19] {Threei}  half lot of course
[13:20] {Threei}  if stays under ,65
[13:20] {Threei}  target about 88.10
[13:21] {nemo} this is going to drop fast
[13:21] {nemo} you better be in on this side
[13:21] {RonS} could go a buck...cannot short here
[13:21] {nemo} been a huge buyer at .50 all day
[13:22] {nemo} well since 11:00
[13:22] {nemo} still there
[13:24] {rizvisy1} spike
[13:25] {dino} i am still long sina
[13:25] {nemo} would have been a great range play today
[13:26] {nemo} BBBB
[13:26] {nemo} Dino, your kinda' action
[13:35] {RonS} oil crashing 95.25
[13:38] {RonS} 94.80
[13:38] {RonS} 94.50
[13:39] {RonS} look uso...margin call area in oil
[13:39] {nemo} look at $
[13:39] {Threei}  impressive
[13:40] {Threei}  Ron... remember I promised I won't cry as oil drops?
[13:40] {Threei}  I keep my promise
[13:40] {Threei}  not crying
[13:40] {RonS} good to know
[13:40] {Threei}  thoght you'd like that
[13:46] {dino} nvls spike
[13:49] {Threei} Long Setup:  TNA  69 break
[13:50] {Threei}  if stays above .85
[13:53] {dino} 11859 gap, 2202, 1357
[13:55] {ese} du du du du........dum de dum....dum de dum
[13:56] {ese} still hangin in there with REE .........but gotta go all.....catch you all tomorrow
[13:56] {RonS} when is school out?
[13:56] {Threei}  take care ese
[14:02] {Threei}  crap
[14:02] {Threei}  this one got away
[14:02] {dino} cya eses
[14:03] {rizvisy1} rinsed and climb, need to take revenge
[14:03] {rizvisy1} huh
[14:03] {Threei}  didn't rinse
[14:03] {Threei}  invalidated
[14:04] {Threei}  it never triggered before dropping under .85
[14:04] {nemo} 3rd higher low
[14:04] {Threei}  yeah, but no trigger
[14:04] {rizvisy1} no trigger
[14:05] {rizvisy1} yeah
[14:05] {nemo} tna/tza are tough for formal triggers because they are based on an index
[14:05] {dino} meli sm l .00
[14:06] {rizvisy1} slw wow
[14:13] {nemo} see SINA
[14:13] {dino} wow sina drop and stop
[14:13] {nemo} yeah, no way you'd get it after breaking .50 the buyer was huge
[14:14] {Threei}  shows the potential of a dam break plays
[14:14] {Threei}  quiz for tomorrow: what page of a Taoist Trader course describes this type of trade
[14:14] {nemo} yeah, and whoever got that should pull the horseshoe out of their ass, shut down the computer, and go drink
[14:14] {rizvisy1} lolllllllllllllllll
[14:14] {Threei}  what visual
[14:19] {Threei}  btw nemo
[14:19] {Threei}  you are excluded from the quiz
[14:19] {nemo} why
[14:20] {Threei}  two reasons
[14:20] {Threei}  1, I like excluding you from things
[14:20] {nemo} my mensa IQ
[14:20] {Threei}  2, you have searchable document
[14:20] {nemo} oh
[14:20] {nemo} got it
[14:20] {Threei}  :)
[14:20] {nemo} I'm source material
[14:21] {Threei}  looking if we can get TNA near 69
[14:21] {Threei}  need one more leg down
[14:22] {Threei}  for double bottom
[14:23] {Threei} Long Setup:  TNA  .05 break
[14:23] {Threei}  invalidated
[14:24] {Threei}  still on watch
[14:24] {Threei}  formidification
[14:24] {RonS} new one
[14:24] {Threei}  lol
[14:24] {nemo} wow...never seen that word before
[14:24] {Threei}  no, it's not what you think
[14:24] {nemo} oh yes....it is
[14:25] {Threei}  for modification
[14:25] {nemo} .90 break if spy goes higher
[14:26] {nemo} in .91
[14:26] {Threei}  69 break
[14:26] {Threei}  with any aggressive entry you like
[14:26] {Threei}  and stop under .80
[14:26] {nemo} took half off .96 not liking this
[14:27] {nemo} stop is break even
[14:27] {Threei}  looks OK to me
[14:27] {nemo} often this kind of volatility seems to indicate change in tna IWM
[14:27] {nemo} just covering risk
[14:28] {Threei}  well, SPY is on a brink
[14:28] {Threei}  cam break either way
[14:28] {Threei}  down it chose
[14:28] {nemo} out...needless to say
[14:30] {RonS} pass the banana
[14:31] {Threei}  what was that
[14:31] {dino} sina sm l .25
[14:34] {nemo} Ron, I'd rather give you a sharp knife, or at least a banana wit e-coli
[14:34] {RonS} ecoli...lol
[14:36] {Threei}  ron, you have to agree, a good thing about nemo is:
[14:37] {Threei}  he is reliably hostile and prickly
[14:37] {Threei}  you always know what to expct,
[14:37] {Threei}  and even if it's othing good - it's so reliable, you get this strange feeling of comfort when he bites you
[14:38] {dino} lol
[14:38] {nemo} that's the warmth of the spreading venom
[14:38] {Threei}  correct
[14:40] {dino} out meli .50, +.50
[14:40] {dino} out whr .52, +.28
[14:41] {RonS} meli math stinky
[14:41] {dino} ?
[14:41] {RonS} oops was looking at sina
[14:42] {dino} ssssssssllllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!
[14:42] {RonS} w/ ecoli...
[14:42] {dino} why not
[14:43] {Threei}  lol
[14:44] {nemo} you might get it on yourself, slap him in the face with a handful of salt
[14:44] {nemo} If you don't get to wash your eyes out, say hello to the red tipped cane
[14:50] {nemo} crissakes, everybody I know is messaging me about the hockey game 2night
[14:51] {RonS} some noting the big guys are bangind the tape and in both directions...usually does not happen
[14:51] {nemo} in what stock
[14:51] {RonS} es and nq futures
[14:53] {dino} yeah, we're jumpimg around 20 dji pts in seconds
[14:57] {nemo} bunny just woke up
[14:58] {Threei}  (GR) Greece PM Papandreou: Confirms to reshuffle cabinet and seek a vote of confidence from his Parliamentary group; To stay on as PM
[14:58] {Threei}  - Govt is struggling to save the country, duty is now national rather than political.
[14:58] {Threei}  - Terms set by opposition cannot be accepted. Asked for political concensus but opposition rejected the proposal.
[14:58] {nemo} buy more bullets
[15:00] {Threei}  TZA
[15:00] {Threei}  pullback to 42 for entry
[15:00] {RonS} lesson from caesar...forment crisis...become emporer to save
[15:00] {Threei}  "don't waste good crisis"
[15:01] {Threei}  42 break
[15:01] {nemo} we need to get rid of 3 or 4 billion people
[15:01] {Threei}  if holding .90
[15:02] {Threei}  valid again
[15:02] {Threei}  .85 stop
[15:03] {dino} sina stopped
[15:04] {Threei}  ok TZA
[15:04] {Threei}  let's do it
[15:04] {Threei}  bees do it
[15:04] {Threei}  birds do it
[15:04] {Threei}  even educated fleas do it
[15:05] {Threei}  not a scalp
[15:05] {Threei}  1:1
[15:05] {Threei}  first part out
[15:06] {RonS} tza in .03  1/2 .14...1/2  .24  thanks 3i
[15:07] {Threei}  stop to .96
[15:07] {Threei}  .95
[15:07] {Threei}  ron :)
[15:22] {RonS} S&P Raises Las Vegas Sands' CCR To BB From BB-; Outlook Stable       06/15 08:49 AM
[15:25] {RonS} rimm gonna lose 35?
[15:30] {Threei}  I like the idea very much
[15:30] {Threei}  don't know if it does but will be a good trigger if happens
[15:30] {dino} sina sm l .03
[15:34] {RonS} dang, missed  hit limit sell at .98 when it broke
[15:36] {Threei}  took second chance into bounce?
[15:37] {RonS} no, fearing bear trap w/ earnings ah tomorrow
[15:37] {RonS} if this was fresh i would have:  Dolby Patent Suit Adds to RIM’s Woes
[15:38] {Threei}  overall, RIMM seems to be on a losing side of the battle... not exactly dead man walking yet but going there
[15:39] {jfjf64} ya think  look  daily
[15:39] {RonS} gonna be no love w/ the nok experience
[15:39] {dino} out sina .44, +.41
[15:40] {jfjf64} gj
[15:40] {dino} ty
[15:40] {Threei}  nice
[15:41] {dino} greed cost me today, had a lot of early $100 hits, let them go flat or neg. must remember vads' walking down the street theory
[15:41] {jfjf64} ??
[15:41] {dino} if you see $100 on street, do you not pick it up hoping for $200
[15:41] {jfjf64} ahh
[15:42] {dino} volitile day like today, that would have helped
[15:44] {dino} ugh sina
[15:46] {jfjf64} spiker
[15:47] {jfjf64} anyone use  rsi  indicator
[15:48] {RonS} no, too backward looking
[15:48] {jfjf64} ?
[15:49] {RonS} history generated number that gives no indication of future direction, nor timing
[15:50] {RonS} imo of course
[15:51] {dino} k.i.s.s. indicators here
[15:53] {RonS} tcatw w/ stops and targets, eh dino?
[15:53] {dino} tcatw?
[15:54] {RonS} throw crap against the wall...
[15:54] {dino} ahhh, yes, indeed.
[15:54] {dino} keep it simple stupid
[15:54] {jfjf64} lol
[15:54] {Threei}  OK guys, no complaints about today whatsoever
[15:55] {Threei}  went as good as you can expect from a nervous day in the markets
[15:55] {patience} good day, learnt lots, thanks vad
[15:55] {jfjf64} ya not  leavin  yet
[15:55] {jfjf64} are ya
[15:55] {Threei}  we are good when market is nervous
[15:55] {jfjf64}  happy  hour
[15:55] {Threei}  nothing to do when it's calm
[15:55] {Threei}  sorry jf, but I am
[15:55] {dino} tee time in 30
[15:55] {Threei}  last 5 min you'll have to forgive me
[15:55] {Threei}  or not
[15:55] {jfjf64} enjoy  all
[15:55] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
[15:56] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:56] {larisa} bye :)
[15:56] {_nsj100} thanks
[15:57] {dino} thx all, good time, gotta hop. good time
[15:57] {jfjf64} always

Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Jun 14 2011

Big gap up days are rarely good for trading - gap and stall is a frequent phenomenon. Today was not an exception. Ended up slightly positive, mostly thanks to a finishing short on RIMM with nice move in our favor. Overall, yawn.

Session Time: Tue Jun 14 00:00:00 2011
[08:46] {nemo} call dino tell him go back to bed
[08:47] {Threei}  I can't
[08:47] {Threei}  I went back to bed myself
[08:59] {Threei}  oh nemo... do you hate vancouverites a bit less?
[08:59] {Threei}  till tomorrow at least?
[09:01] {davd} why would anyone hate a Vancouvite?  you guys are cool in your rain coats, sipping coffee in the fog.
[09:01] {nemo} not until Wednesday night
[09:01] {nemo} I'm from Boston davd
[09:02] {Threei}  well... we have it as sunny as anyone these days, but nemo is indiscriminate in his hatred :)
[09:02] {davd} hmmm not so diff
[09:03] {davd} getting whiplash watching mcp
[09:03] {Threei}  slv is geeting hit again
[09:07] {Threei}  lost .70 support
[09:07] {Threei}  SLW is likely to follow
[09:15] {dino} gm all
[09:15] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:24] {rizvisy1} gm
[09:24] {Threei}  riz :)
[09:24] {larisa} gm :)
[09:24] {Threei}  ok... let's gather our thoughts
[09:24] {Threei}  well, even those few we have, that is
[09:24] {Threei}  larisa :)
[09:24] {Threei}  big gap up, usually, very unfriendly to trading
[09:25] {Threei}  but we have a lot of weakness in silver and SLW
[09:25] {Threei}  so, this may present us with trade
[09:25] {Threei}  .65 break is the idea
[09:25] {Threei}  if everything goes right, couple min after opening it will set up
[09:25] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:26] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:26] {ese} morning
[09:26] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:26] {Threei}  jf, can't even begin telling you how untimely was your leave yesterday
[09:27] {ese} what happened
[09:28] {ese} score a big one?
[09:28] {Threei}  we fixed the day into solid profit after he left?
[09:28] {Threei}  with one big and three smaller ones
[09:28] {ese} lol
[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .80 break
[09:31] {Threei}  if stays under .90
[09:31] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:32] {Threei}  I am staying on a very conservative side
[09:33] {Threei}  thes big gap up days can be very treacherous, don't want repeat of yesterday
[09:33] {Threei}  so, will bbe very picky
[09:33] {rizvisy1} thats right...
[09:34] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .10 break half lot
[09:35] {Threei}  1:1
[09:35] {rizvisy1} late entry
[09:35] {Threei}  where?
[09:35] {dino}  kro sm l .12
[09:35] {rizvisy1} fcx .10 missed
[09:36] {Threei}  but it came back for a second chance fill
[09:36] {rizvisy1} yes
[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .95 break
[09:37] {Threei}  .06 stop
[09:39] {Threei}  if SLV loses .90, SLW should be fine
[09:39] {Threei}  market spike
[09:39] {jfjf64} hold on  slw
[09:39] {Threei}  holding so far
[09:39] {Threei}  SLV lost .90
[09:40] {Threei}  1:1
[09:40] {Threei}  easy does it
[09:44] {jfjf64} cof  bounce
[09:44] {jfjf64} ?
[09:44] {Threei} Long Setup:  OMG  .95 small shares
[09:44] {jfjf64} lol
[09:44] {jfjf64} oh my god
[09:44] {Threei}  right
[09:45] {Threei}  lol
[09:45] {Threei}  what a symbol
[09:45] {RonS} dalai lama company?
[09:45] {Threei}  dunno but it looks explosive
[09:46] {Threei}  just don't chase it
[09:46] {Threei}  stop under .80
[09:47] {Threei}  CAT, half lot long on pullback to under .60
[09:47] {RonS} lol...specialty chemicals ...looks explosive...
[09:47] {Threei}  rofl
[09:47] {Threei}  I didn't know that
[09:47] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .60 break
[09:47] {Threei}  if holding .50
[09:48] {Threei}  symbol OMG for such company... really omg
[09:48] {Threei}  no worky CAT
[09:49] {jfjf64} jf  loves  short  here
[09:49] {jfjf64} tight  stop
[09:49] {Threei}  what exactly would jf want to short?
[09:49] {jfjf64} can droppppppppppppp
[09:49] {jfjf64} omg
[09:49] {jfjf64} lol
[09:49] {Threei}  ahh
[09:49] {Threei}  lol
[09:49] {rizvisy1} volume is real low OMG low in OMG
[09:50] {Threei}  that's why small shares comment
[09:50] {Threei}  illiquid stocks call for smaller position
[09:50] {Threei}  CAT is very volatile, so half lot
[09:50] {RonS} omg  1.67 mil shares short...it could explode...
[09:53] {Threei}  (US) CFTC proposes delaying derivative market rules implementation from July 16 to as late as Dec 31 (update)
[09:53] {Threei}  - Regulators propose the delay because they have not been able to meet the deadline for full implementation one year after the passage of the Dodd-Frank legislation.
[09:53] {Threei}  just what were they so busy with for a full year?
[09:53] {RonS} but 99.92% held by institutions...finviz
[09:53] {RonS} cat rinse
[09:53] {Threei}  yeah
[09:54] {Threei}  market is locked in narrow range
[09:54] {Threei}  often the case on big gap up days
[09:56] {dino} a dino go back to bed day
[09:57] {nemo} [08:46] {nemo} call dino tell him go back to bed
[09:57] {Threei}  08:46] {nemo} call dino tell him go back to bed
[09:57] {Threei}  [08:47] {Threei} I can't
[09:57] {Threei}  [08:47] {Threei} I went back to bed myself
[09:57] {RonS} lol
[10:00] {dino} lol missed that
[10:08] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .60 break
[10:08] {dino} fds
[10:08] {Threei}  if stays above .50 of course
[10:09] {Threei}  if loses it, will be interested in scalp off .40
[10:10] {Threei}  if you want to see pure garbage daily chart, look at PURE
[10:11] {dino} fds sm l .25
[10:12] {Threei}  Greece news caused sharp downtick in the market
[10:13] {Threei}  (GR) Greece PM experiencing pressure within his Socialist Party to reshuffle the cabinet - world press citing sources
[10:13] {Threei}  - Reshuffle would be aimed at quelling public ire over plans for more spending cuts.
[10:13] {Threei}  - Sources say Former ECB VP Papademos could be installed as the next finance ministe
[10:13] {samire} no go ?
[10:13] {Threei}  [10:08] {Threei} if stays above .50
[10:13] {Threei}  it didn't
[10:13] {rizvisy1} rinsed
[10:13] {Threei}  it's stopped
[10:14] {Threei}  now, if it goes to .70, that will be "rinsed"
[10:14] {Threei}  and jf will be immenesly pi**ed off
[10:15] {jfjf64} lol
[10:15] {rizvisy1} it might but, can't break rules for stops
[10:15] {jfjf64} took  my  meds  today
[10:15] {jfjf64} very calm
[10:15] {Threei}  because stop is stop, nothing wrong with that
[10:15] {jfjf64} yes
[10:15] {Threei}  but to shake us out by couple cents, and proceed to the target is wrong
[10:15] {jfjf64} part of da system
[10:16] {Threei}  indecent behavior
[10:16] {jfjf64} lvs  short
[10:16] {jfjf64} ?
[10:16] {jfjf64} .45 break
[10:16] {Threei}  (GR) Spain Fin Min: reiterates ministers are exploring many options for Greece; there are options besides restructuring
[10:16] {Threei}  not sure jf
[10:18] {jfjf64} .45 break  will give  shot
[10:18] {jfjf64} .43
[10:18] {jfjf64} in
[10:18] {dino} fds stop -.27
[10:24] {samire} test
[10:24] {nemo} fail
[10:24] {samire} yes or no
[10:25] {nemo} da
[10:29] {samire} 1
[10:31] {Threei}  OMG time
[10:31] {Threei}  nears 1:1
[10:31] {jfjf64} 3i  an  usher  fan
[10:32] {Threei}  say what, lol
[10:32] {Threei}  1:1
[10:33] {Threei}  and can do more
[10:36] {samire} 1
[10:37] {RonS} 2
[10:37] {RonS} cha cha cha
[10:41] {RonS} cof l .34
[10:41] {dino}  fds rinsed
[10:44] {RonS} cof stopped -.10
[10:47] {samire} CSCO is a Bargin
[10:47] {RonS} leh was a bargain
[10:47] {Threei}  CSCO is garbage
[10:48] {Threei}  never buy cheap because it's cheap
[10:48] {Threei}  cheap is relative - it can get a loooot cheaper
[10:48] {nemo} yeah, oversold can get oversolder
[10:48] {Threei}  and then oversoldest
[10:48] {Threei}  and the sell some more
[10:49] {nemo} oversoldester
[10:49] {RonS} lol
[10:49] {Threei}  want a dialog from 1999 or so?
[10:49] {nemo} Threeish
[10:49] {Threei}  guy to me:
[10:49] {nemo} Nah...bad memories
[10:49] {RonS} how much more is there?
[10:49] {Threei}  you want to tell me that **** is a bad buy here?
[10:50] {Threei}  I'll have you to know, it's second biggest ISP in the country,
[10:50] {nemo} Netscape?
[10:50] {Threei}  it has fallen a lot from 100 something to 90
[10:50] {nemo} AOL
[10:50] {Threei}  if you honestly believe it has any more room to fall, you are an idiot.
[10:50] {Threei}  Idiot I was, indeed - stock was ELNK
[10:50] {nemo} don't even remember it
[10:51] {Threei}  look at CSCO chart
[10:51] {Threei}  daily
[10:51] {Threei}  weekly
[10:51] {Threei}  monthly
[10:52] {Threei}  find me any single time frame i which it doesn't look dead lkike a doornail
[10:52] {samire} short it
[10:53] {Threei}  not my cup of ea
[10:53] {nemo} strong convictions that one
[10:53] {Threei}  oh, one more story of the same kind, more recnet
[10:54] {Threei}  just couple years ago I think,
[10:54] {Threei}  I dared to say something negative about ESLR
[10:54] {Threei}  with traded around 10 at the time I think
[10:54] {Threei}  fan of it told me all about how it's on a hiring spree, business is booming - and recommended me to "educate myself" before making comments about stocks
[10:55] {Threei}  he was heavily invested and adding on each drop... on margin too
[11:02] {dino} had a cousin do same thing w/webmd
[11:02] {dino} wiped him out
[11:02] {Threei}  I remember that one too
[11:02] {Threei}  men of strong convictions get killed in the market often
[11:03] {Threei}  was watching SLW for H&S short setup at .40, , wanted to watch only to see if this kind of things works
[11:03] {jfjf64} jcp
[11:03] {Threei}  worked
[11:04] {dino} just saw that jf
[11:05] {Threei}  new CEO
[11:05] {RonS} $JCP naming former Senior Vice President of Retail Operations at $AAPL as the new CEO
[11:06] {RonS} so, because aapl came out w/ kickass products this guy was a retail genius...ridiculous
[11:06] {Threei}  lol
[11:06] {dino} perception is realty
[11:07] {RonS} like saying the astronaut caused the ride to the moon...the rocket had nothing to do w/ it
[11:10] {RonS} jcp s .06
[11:10] {dino} ron, c'mon, you know in the "efficient"(lol) market, that perception is indeed reality.
[11:12] {RonS} out -.14  too soon
[11:16] {Threei}  any chance this monkey would be off US back:
[11:16] {Threei}  (US) Senator Chambliss (R-GA): Plans to vote to end ethanol subsidies
[11:16] {Threei}  ***Note that a bill by Senator Coburn (R-OK) would look to reduce government spending by eliminating a major $5B a year ethanol industry tax break and the ethanol import tariff. The vote is expected later today.
[11:17] {dino} will never pass, imo
[11:17] {nemo} nope
[11:17] {nemo} once a subsidy always a subsidy
[11:17] {dino} you can give, but never take away
[11:17] {Threei}  well, good test for their faigned resolve to fight deficit
[11:18] {RonS} heard 40% of US corn to ethanol...stupid
[11:18] {nemo} that's why it will collapse
[11:18] {Threei}  feigned
[11:18] {dino} other 60% to soda, lol
[11:23] {samire} test
[11:24] {nemo} fail
[11:24] {Threei}  samire, what's wrong?
[11:24] {samire} i have slow internet
[11:25] {samire} traveling overseas now
[11:25] {Threei}  I see
[11:25] {samire} like dial up
[11:25] {Threei}  that can be serious pain in the butt
[11:25] {Threei}  especially for executions... yikes
[11:25] {samire} yes
[11:25] {Threei}  avoid market orders like plague
[11:26] {Threei}  that will kill you with slow connection
[11:26] {samire} i am checking how fast i see my own posting
[11:27] {Threei} Short Setup: JCP  .40 break
[11:27] {Threei}  half lot
[11:28] {Threei}  .55 stop
[11:28] {dino} back in 30
[11:29] {Threei}  just no rinsing JCP
[11:29] {Threei}  you are so done
[11:29] {nemo} spy looks like bounce
[11:29] {Threei}  held by fingertips
[11:30] {Threei}  I don't thnk JCP cares about SPY
[11:30] {Threei}  it's in its own world
[11:30] {nemo} just letting you know
[11:30] {Threei}  POS
[11:30] {Threei}  stopped
[11:31] {ese} L aks .24
[11:46] {davd} gj aks ese
[11:46] {davd} news?
[11:46] {Threei}  (US) Rep Hoyer (D-MD): Would like to see a debt limit increase within ten days in order to calm markets- More than half of democrats would vote to increase debt limit.
[11:47] {nemo} duh
[11:47] {ese} tks dave out aks .44 +.20
[11:47] {ese} raised quidance is all
[11:47] {ese} nothin big
[11:48] {Threei}  JCP turned into momo
[11:48] {Threei}  "only play in town" effect on boring day
[11:54] {samire} is it because summer slow down ?
[11:55] {Threei}  not necessary,
[11:55] {Threei}  rather big gap day
[11:55] {Threei}  they often end up in day-long stall
[11:55] {Threei}  gap up that is
[11:55] {Threei}  gap down days are more active
[11:55] {RonS} and isn't the bernack speaking at 2:15 edt?
[11:55] {RonS} bernank
[12:05] {RonS} the world has recognized jesus christ
[12:06] {RonS} apparently he is the new ceo of jcp
[12:06] {Threei}  ahhh
[12:06] {Threei}  that explains it
[12:08] {ese} L axl .35
[12:09] {nemo} bby
[12:09] {dino} .
[12:10] {RonS} what about bby...
[12:12] {dino} jcp sm s break .00
[12:13] {dino} lol may not break it
[12:15] {rizvisy1} .
[12:15] {rizvisy1} .
[12:16] {Threei}  nice dino
[12:16] {dino} battle
[12:21] {dino} stop flat, hmm,m
[12:24] {dino} things crazy
[12:25] {ese} L jcp .42
[12:25] {Threei}  wow
[12:25] {Threei}  that's a lot of chasing
[12:25] {ese} out crap .50
[12:25] {dino} then i shall short it again, so one of us is right
[12:25] {Threei}  whew
[12:25] {ese} daaaaaaaa +.08
[12:26] {ese} not fast enough
[12:26] {Threei}  you like living dangerously, eh ese
[12:26] {ese}  to get that spike
[12:26] {ese} ahhhhh what the heck.....ya can't take it with ya
[12:26] {dino} sm s .35, stop hod break
[12:34] {dino} out kro .40, +.30
[12:36] {ese} out even axl .35 .00
[12:38] {dino} jcp stop -.25
[12:42] {dino} another rinse, thats like 6 in two days, wtf
[13:09] {RonS} jcp .15 break if holding .25 3i?
[13:09] {RonS} s?
[13:09] {dino} lower high put in at .69
[13:09] {Threei}  no Ron :)
[13:10] {RonS} ya but for some reason support is at .17
[13:10] {Threei}  Google announces voice search
[13:11] {Threei}  I want cough search, sneeze search and blink search
[13:11] {RonS} scratch search
[13:14] {RonS} quote of the day:   @herbgreenberg i just visited $JCP and they are already painting everything white.
[13:17] {dino} sm s .24 jcp
[13:20] {RonS} this is a fact: hard goods retail is totally different than soft goods
[13:26] {rizvisy1} Decent data from both home and abroad have turned many participants into buyers today
[13:28] {RonS} big algo seller here in the es futes...benank at 2:30
[13:28] {Threei}  (US) Reminder: Fed Chairman Bernanke scheduled to speak on the debt and fiscal stability at 14:30ET
[13:34] {dino} stopped again
[13:42] {Threei}  Only 49% Think U.S. Still Needs to Belong to NATO
[13:43] {Threei}  54% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law, 46% Think Repeal Likely
[13:49] {ese} choir time.....cya all tomorrow
[13:50] {dino} cya
[13:53] {Threei}  take care ese
[13:57] {rizvisy1} .
[14:03] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM  .80 break
[14:07] {Threei}  not a scalp IMO
[14:11] {Threei}  1:1
[14:12] {Threei}  half out
[14:12] {Threei}  stp to .86
[14:13] {Threei}  stop to .83
[14:13] {dino}  gj
[14:13] {Threei}  ty
[14:16] {samire} long rimm above .70
[14:17] {samire} .63 stop
[14:18] {Threei}  stop to .81
[14:19] {Threei}  stop to .76
[14:19] {Threei}  no lose territory, playing with house money
[14:20] {Threei}  1/4 more out
[14:21] {Threei}  1:2
[14:21] {Threei}  stop .73
[14:24] {Threei}  decide between covering at 1:3 or trailing
[14:24] {Threei}  I'll try for more
[14:24] {Threei}  stop to .66
[14:32] {Threei}  (US) Fed Bernanke: Failure to raise debt ceiling could lead to a US ratings downgrade; even a short disruption and 'prioritizing payment' could rattle markets
[14:32] {Threei}  out last portion RIMM
[14:33] {RonS} gj ty
[14:33] {Threei}  :)
[14:33] {Threei}  - The debt limit is not the correct tool for enforcing budget discipline and achieving budget cuts.
[14:33] {Threei}  - Congress needs to quickly agree on a long-term fiscal plant
[14:33] {Threei}  ***Does not comment on US monetary policy
[14:35] {Threei}  now, this is rich:
[14:35] {Threei}  - Failing to raise the debt limit would damage USD and US Treasury markets.
[14:35] {Threei}  while true, it's so weird to hear this from the guy who caused damage to USD beyond thinkable
[14:36] {Threei}  (US) Senate begins vote on Coburn Amendment that seeks to eliminate $5B in ethanol subsidies
[14:36] {Threei}  - The proposal seeks to eliminate $0.45/gallon tax credit for ethanol and $0.54/gallon tariff on imported ethanol.
[14:39] {Threei}  - Follow up 14:38ET: Senate has enough votes to defeat the amendment
[15:10] {davd} dollar moving higher re .dxy
[15:24] {RonS} Apple has plumb position to fill in retailing
[15:25] {RonS} ...does this mean the guy is fat?
[15:25] {Threei}  I'd apply but they are not likely to agree to my requirements
[15:25] {RonS} oh, pumb not plump
[15:25] {RonS} plumb
[15:25] {Threei}  which are: I am not appearing for work, ever
[15:26] {Threei}  usually after this line no one listens to the rest
[15:27] {Threei}  (EU) EMU Official: May take time to reach an agreement for Greece debt; differences in opinion remain between the ECB and Germany - financial press
[15:27] {Threei}  - Reiterates the deal should involve private creditors
[15:31] {dino}  keyw spike
[15:47] {Threei}  gap and stall right under 130 resistance, on lower volume than red days
[15:47] {Threei}  hopefully it's a sign of downtrend continuation
[15:47] {Threei}  which will present us with good activity and readable opportunities
[15:50] {Threei}  ok guys, let's end onthis
[15:50] {Threei}  no sense to press anthing on last minutes
[15:50] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
[15:51] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:52] {larisa} bye :)

Monday, June 13, 2011

Jun 13 2011

Quite remarkable day from the point of view of risk management. Rough start with a few morning stop put us under water, seemingly to deep for the day to be hopeless. Then one big win where we allowed profits develop erased most of losses - and then we managed the rest of the day into nice profits. Read the discussion of the strategy as the day developed, it's well worth it.

Session Time: Mon Jun 13 00:00:01 2011
[08:28] {nemo} Hello hated Vancouverites
[08:42] {Threei}  yawn
[08:47] {Threei}  (GR) Netherlands Fin Min de Jager: The private sector needs to offer greater contribution if Netherlands are to offer additional Greek aid- Involvement could mean extension of debt maturities
[09:11] {Threei}  (EU) ECB's Trichet reiterates blah blah blah and at the end says:
[09:11] {Threei}  - Notes again that EMU budget deficits are half that of the US or Japan.
[09:11] {Threei}  in %? Or dollars?
[09:13] {samire} gm
[09:13] {Threei}  samire :)
[09:14] {dino} gm all
[09:14] {larisa} gm :)
[09:15] {dino} in % i think 3i, japan is somewhere around 180%
[09:16] {Threei}  dino, larisa :)
[09:16] {Threei}  ok... then everything's fine in Euro land {G}
[09:16] {Threei}  SLW is red in green market
[09:17] {_nsj100} gm
[09:17] {Threei}  nsj :)
[09:17] {_nsj100} thanks for email vad.
[09:18] {Threei}  sure thing
[09:20] {rizvisy1} gm
[09:21] {Threei}  riz :)
[09:22] {Threei}  SLW short is first thought
[09:22] {Threei}  hopefully will form decent setup, not just drops right out of the gate
[09:24] {Threei}  in case you wondered about CREE,
[09:24] {Threei}  Cree Inc Early strength attributed to President Obama scheduling an appearance today at a CREE LED plant- Obama will deliver his remarks at approx 11:40ET
[09:24] {Threei}  if that's the only reason, I'd say short the living daylight out of it
[09:26] {ese} morning
[09:26] {Threei}  ese :)
[09:27] {RonS} gm everyone
[09:27] {Threei}  ron :)
[09:27] {jfjf64} mornin
[09:28] {Threei}  jf :)
[09:28] {Threei}  ok, my face is cracking up in the middle of all these smiles... no one says hello anymore, my smiling muscles arfe not that well trained
[09:29] {Threei}  come on SLW, bounce a bit for us
[09:29] {samire} are you looking for a long or short on slw ??
[09:30] {Threei}  [09:16] {Threei} SLW is red in green market
[09:30] {Threei}  [09:22] {Threei} SLW short is first thought
[09:31] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .60 break if stays under .70
[09:31] {Threei}  grrrr... late
[09:32] {Threei}  1;2
[09:32] {Threei}  double grr
[09:33] {Threei}  let's see, maybe second chance thanks to opening volatility
[09:34] {Threei}  OK
[09:34] {Threei}  same setup
[09:35] {jfjf64} wippin
[09:35] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:36] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .85 break
[09:36] {Threei}  if stays under .95
[09:37] {Threei}  not a scalp
[09:38] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .75 break
[09:38] {Threei}  if stays under .85
[09:39] {dino} amrn sm l .85
[09:40] {Threei}  market sudden spike
[09:41] {Threei}  FCX no worky
[09:41] {dino} options exp week, watch pin action
[09:42] {Threei}  SLW stays weak
[09:42] {jfjf64} dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:43] {Threei}  with market pullback should revisit the low
[09:44] {Threei}  no go
[09:46] {Threei} Long Setup:  CAT  .50 break half lot
[09:47] {Threei}  if stays above .35
[09:48] {Threei}  let's make it aggressive entry .45 break
[09:49] {Threei}  SLW rinse
[09:50] {Threei}  1:2... slimy bastard
[09:51] {Threei}  CAT, modify setup to .30 - .40
[09:51] {Threei}  .40 break long if stays above .30
[09:51] {Threei}  target .80
[09:53] {Threei}  SLW is on its way to the target... can you believe it?
[09:53] {Threei}  no go CAT
[09:53] {Threei}  so far, not our day
[09:53] {jfjf64} dirty  rat  basterd
[09:54] {Threei}  that SLW is
[09:54] {jfjf64} yes
[09:54] {jfjf64} deep breath
[09:56] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  .85 break
[09:56] {Threei}  if stays above .75
[10:00] {Threei}  two-sided setup
[10:01] {Threei}  wow
[10:01] {Threei}  what the deuce
[10:03] {jfjf64} .80  break  agg
[10:03] {jfjf64} imo
[10:03] {jfjf64} ?
[10:03] {Threei}  (EU) ECB Trichet: ECB has its own collateral framework; not assuming that any countries will leave the Eurozone
[10:03] {Threei}  - Reitetates view that EU must avoid action tht would trigger a credit event and any restructuring must be voluntary
[10:03] {Threei}  - ECB does not decide on sovereign debt actions
[10:03] {Threei}  **Reminder: On Jun 10th ECB member Liikanen commented that the ECB should rethink its collateral policy and segregate between collateral
[10:03] {Threei}  agg?
[10:04] {jfjf64} in
[10:04] {jfjf64} .82
[10:04] {Threei}  sheesh
[10:05] {Threei}  jf, you actually got me looking at stock AGG
[10:05] {jfjf64} lol
[10:05] {jfjf64} sorry
[10:05] {jfjf64} aggresive
[10:05] {jfjf64} reachin
[10:05] {jfjf64} sd of  stayed  in  bed
[10:05] {Threei}  lol
[10:06] {Threei}  dunno, it doesn't trigger on either side
[10:06] {samire} are you taking rimm long at .85 break ?
[10:06] {Threei}  and market makes these weird spikes
[10:06] {samire} ??????
[10:07] {Threei}  samire, what is unclear??
[10:07] {Threei}  .85 break long trigger
[10:07] {samire} if u changed your mind
[10:07] {Threei}  it never invaliadetd
[10:07] {Threei}  why would I if it didn't invalidate?
[10:08] {dino} panl sm l .90
[10:08] {Threei}  .85 break long, .75 break short
[10:11] {jfjf64} comon  3i  get  out  the 2x4
[10:12] {ese} intelliscan down again?
[10:12] {Threei}  but I don't know which way
[10:12] {jfjf64} lol
[10:12] {Threei}  no ese, works fine
[10:12] {Threei}  what do you mean again... when was it down last time??
[10:13] {ese} i have had more internet problems in the last 4/5 months than in the last 5 years
[10:13] {Threei}  but that's not intelliscan
[10:13] {ese} a month or so ago vad
[10:13] {Threei}  it's your ISP
[10:15] {Threei} Short Setup: X  .70
[10:15] {Threei}  half lot
[10:18] {Threei}  if loses .60, target is .40 at least, possibly more
[10:19] {Threei}  stopped
[10:19] {Threei}  shrug
[10:19] {Threei}  one of those days
[10:20] {Threei}  look at the spikes in market
[10:20] {Threei}  out of nowhere, both ways
[10:24] {davd} big bets on either side of dow 12k
[10:30] {dino}   out panl ave .30, +.40
[10:31] {samire} thanx dino
[10:31] {Threei}  nice
[10:33] {dino} thx
[10:36] {jfjf64} unp
[10:36] {jfjf64} .90 break
[10:37] {jfjf64} one of those  days  outta here
[10:40] {Threei} Short Setup: CAT  .80 break
[10:40] {Threei}  if stays under .95
[10:42] {dino} sina lod
[10:43] {Threei}  stop to .91
[10:44] {Threei}  bidding 1/3 .66
[10:44] {Threei}  out
[10:44] {Threei}  .50 - .52 for another 1/3
[10:45] {Threei}  stop to .86
[10:46] {Threei}  out second part
[10:46] {Threei}  stop to .81
[10:46] {samire} Great Job Vad !!!!!
[10:46] {Threei}  want to cover last piece around .30 - .35
[10:46] {samire} new stop  ?
[10:46] {Threei}  [10:46] {Threei} stop to .81
[10:46] {samire} sorry
[10:46] {Threei}  jf... tell me you haven't actually left
[10:51] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Lacker: Rate hike before year end within possibilities, evaluating review of growth outlook
[10:52] {dino}    kro gap fill
[10:54] {Threei}  stop to .65
[10:54] {Threei}  well, .67 actually
[10:57] {Threei}  CAT is on the final descent
[10:57] {Threei}  out
[10:57] {Threei}  +.50
[10:58] {Threei}  wow... even that was too soon
[10:59] {Threei}  but anyway, that erased most of earlier stops
[10:59] {Threei}  not all, but took it to negligible level
[11:00] {dino}  gj
[11:00] {Threei}  ty
[11:00] {nemo} so, at least your broker is happy
[11:00] {Threei}  lol, true
[11:01] {dino} meli sm l .45
[11:01] {dino} sina sm l .50
[11:03] {dino} sina stop -.32
[11:04] {Threei}  ok CAT, now I want my shares back
[11:04] {Threei}  can I have mulligan?
[11:04] {dino} opening gaps are filling
[11:04] {Threei}  goes for a full dllar
[11:05] {Threei}  and to say honestly, I did have a feeling that it was likely to be the case, but after morning rinsing and shaking I needed a sure winner, so secured it
[11:06] {dino} sina rinsed
[11:09] {Threei}  here is the strategy for the next few trades
[11:09] {dino} coin toss?
[11:09] {Threei}  lol, that's always a part
[11:09] {Threei}  together with chicken entrails
[11:09] {Threei}  want to get couple relatively safe scalps, to get back in green,
[11:10] {Threei}  so looking fo safe trades that, if don't work, present only a very small loss
[11:10] {Threei}  after that part is completed, will re-evaluate
[11:11] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .60 break half lot
[11:11] {Threei}  if stays under .70
[11:11] {Threei}  normally this one would be fine for full lot but, as said above...
[11:12] {Threei}  aim to cover half near .50
[11:12] {Threei}  stop to .66
[11:13] {dino} panl sm l .62
[11:13] {Threei}  crap, wanted .52 - .53 for cover, and missed it while typing stop trailing
[11:14] {Threei}  ok, out half
[11:14] {Threei}  stop to .61
[11:14] {Threei}  break .50 and die
06[11:15] * Threei sends FCX envelope with black mark
[11:15] {Threei}  here we go
[11:16] {dino} sina sm l .10
[11:18] {Threei}  stop to .56
[11:19] {Threei}  out
[11:19] {Threei}  flat for the day
[11:19] {Threei}  that was a rough ride, but recovery was nothing short of spectacular
[11:19] {samire} i agree
[11:19] {Threei}  keeping losses tight, letting winners run... classic
[11:19] {samire} good job
[11:19] {Threei}  ty
[11:20] {Threei}  ok, staying with strategy described above,
[11:20] {Threei}  safest trades possible,
[11:20] {Threei}  tight stop and modest sizes,
[11:21] {Threei}  aiming to get more or less meaningful profits but first and foremost keeping losses to a minimum
[11:21] {Threei}  and of course full use of chicken entrails
[11:23] {dino} out sina .90, +.80
[11:26] {Threei}  ok dino
[11:26] {Threei}  fess up
[11:26] {Threei}  darts?
[11:27] {Threei}  tea leaves?
[11:27] {dino} lol
[11:27] {Threei}  8-ball?
[11:27] {nemo} the dog
[11:27] {Threei}  coin?
[11:27] {dino} pulp, thats al
[11:27] {Threei}  dice?
[11:27] {rizvisy1} .
[11:27] {Threei}  can't be chicken entrails, I have dibs on that
[11:28] {nemo} I use the hearts of my enemies
[11:28] {Threei}  must have endless supply then
[11:28] {nemo} that's why it's so great
[11:28] {Threei}  :)
[11:29] {nemo} makes for a quiet neighborhood
[11:29] {davd} spy at vwap
[11:29] {davd} little above
[11:29] {nemo} I think the landscape supply company is curious about all the lime I buy
[11:29] {Threei}  I'd move in your vicinity... but I am not sure you can tell between neighbors when in heart-collectfing frenzy
[11:29] {davd} me too
[11:31] {RonS} took sina 86.38 to 87.20  +.82  thanks dino
[11:32] {patience} .
[11:34] {dino} gj
[11:36] {RonS} meli blood
[11:38] {dino} yeah stopped awhile ago
[11:39] {dino} panl too
[11:39] {RonS} sina blood...man, am i glad i got out
[11:40] {dino} sina sm l .70
[11:42] {samire} dino...stop on SINA  ?P
[11:42] {samire} stop loss on sina ...dino ?
[11:43] {Threei}  .30 - .35 would be my guess
[11:43] {Threei}  let's see if I cam read dino's mind
[11:45] {dino} .23
[11:45] {Threei}  nope, I can't
[11:45] {dino} stopped
[11:46] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .05 break, half lot
[11:46] {Threei}  stop above .15
[11:47] {Threei}  same idea that with FCX earlier
[11:47] {Threei}  position size cuts in half even modest 10 cents risk,
[11:47] {Threei}  and aiming to partial out if works
[11:47] {Threei}  to ride the downtrend which seems to be estabilishing
[11:47] {Threei}  1;1
[11:48] {Threei}  half out
[11:48] {Threei}  stop to .11
[11:49] {Threei}  stop to .06
[11:50] {Threei}  decide between covering at 1:2 or trailing stop to .01
[11:50] {Threei}  both are valid options
[11:50] {Threei}  I'll trail personally
[11:50] {Threei}  finally in green for the day
[11:51] {Threei}  so got some buffer to try and squeeze a bit more
[11:51] {dino}  sina smr (300) l .00
[11:51] {dino} open gaps filled
[11:53] {Threei}  look at this
[11:53] {Threei}  (IA) Iranian oil official: Saudi output hike not likely a respond to demand; any added Saudi output would likely go into storage
[11:53] {Threei}  - OPEC would react if Saudi output increase led to oversupply. Could further reduce output.
[11:53] {Threei}  sto to .01 SLW
[11:53] {Threei}  wow dino
[11:53] {samire} what is smr    dino
[11:53] {Threei}  you nailed this one
[11:55] {dino} 300 sh vs sm 400
[11:56] {Threei}  SLW 1:2
[11:56] {samire} thanx
[11:56] {Threei}  stop to .96
[11:57] {dino} np
[11:57] {Threei}  trade's firmly in positive territory even if balance is stopped on trail
[11:57] {dino} out sina .50, +.50
[11:58] {samire} Great play on SINA
[11:59] {dino} ty
[11:59] {Threei}  stop to .91
[12:00] {Threei}  1:3
[12:01] {Threei}  stop to .85
[12:02] {Threei}  (IT) Italy PM Berlusconi concedes referendum votes went against the govt position
[12:02] {Threei}  - Note that earlier in the session, Berlusconi stated that Italy needs to depart from nuclear power generation
[12:02] {Threei}  ***Reminder: A referendum on nuclear power is scheduled in Italy, as Italy's nuclear program was abandoned in 1987 after the Chernobyl incident. Govt claims that nuclear will be important to the country to supply approx 20% of its electricity needs by 2020
[12:03] {Threei}  slw on final descent
[12:03] {Threei}  stop to .81
[12:04] {Threei}  stop to .76
[12:06] {Threei}  CNBC's Kelly: Sources indicate that Facebook IPO may take place in Q1 of 2012, could be worth up to $100B
[12:08] {Threei}  out
[12:08] {Threei}  firmly in green for the day
[12:20] {Threei}  gap is erased
[12:20] {Threei}  (GR) S&P Downgrades rating to CCC from B; outlook Negative
[12:22] {Threei}  anyone's awake?
[12:23] {Threei}  ok, going in coma too
[12:24] {dino}  meli sm l ave .01
[12:25] {dino} stop .73
[12:28] {ese} am not away......
[12:28] {ese} flying blind without proper internet
[12:28] {Threei}  you may have to give up and switch finally...
[12:28] {Threei}  do they give you any reasonable explanation?
[12:29] {ese} ya....a new house is being built up the block......am wondering if that has something to do with it....shaw the telus guys out there and electrical people
[12:29] {ese} saw
[12:30] {Threei}  is it whole neighborhood or limited to you only?
[12:31] {ese} don't know
[12:31] {dino} i think nemo is involved
[12:32] {ese} that was my thinkibng
[12:35] {dino} kro sm l .00
[12:45] {RonS} dino, if you can you may want to short ors...
[12:46] {RonS} whoa...mibbet reboot...
[12:46] {nemo} FTP
[12:46] {nemo} FTO
[12:49] {RonS} meli magnet?  200 day 73.04
[12:49] {dino} thx ron,
[12:50] {dino} bpt drop
[12:52] {RonS} oil busted 97
[12:53] {Threei}  thuis I am not sad about
[12:55] {Threei}  ok, time to try a bounce?
[12:55] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .50 break of holding .40
[12:55] {Threei}  if
[12:57] {Threei}  if you are too close to flat for the day, make it half lot
[12:57] {Threei}  pick positon size that doesn't put you in red if stopped
[12:59] {nemo} gonna' test Friday's lows methinks
[12:59] {Threei}  (GR) Greece Finance Ministry responds to S&P downgrade: Remains commited to the fiscal programs in place
[12:59] {Threei}  - Notes that the S&P downgrade overlooks efforts by the IMF and EU to provide financing for the country
[12:59] {Threei}  heh
[13:02] {Threei}  tested, barely held... gonna lose it IMO
[13:02] {nemo} yeah .06 next support
[13:02] {Threei}  here we go
[13:03] {Threei}  SLW invalidated of course
[13:06] {RonS} oil 96.50 and dropping
[13:06] {Threei}  sill not crying
[13:06] {Threei}  even $40 won;t make me sad
[13:08] {Threei}  SLW panic
[13:08] {Threei}  look at all our shorts todday, both working and stopped
[13:09] {Threei}  sometimes it feels like you bette abandon your discipline and just stick to your conviction, holding positions with no stops :)
[13:09] {Threei}  of course as soon as you do that, they go against you without end in sight
[13:32] {davd} spy vwap 127.75 - imo run up to this
[13:37] {patience} .
[13:38] {dino}  f'ing rinses
[13:39] {dino} amrn sm l .25
[13:57] {dino} amap drop
[13:59] {ese} definitely a B flat do nothing day for me....am outta here....cya tomorrow
[13:59] {Threei}  take care ese
[14:00] {dino} cya ese
[14:07] {Threei}  lol, market completed te roundtrip
[14:08] {dino} random dance market
[14:08] {Threei}  pretty much
[14:08] {Threei}  glad to have made that recovery earlier, would be much harder now
[14:09] {dino} yeah, tough day
[14:09] {dino} soda drop
[14:13] {dino} gmlp drop
[14:13] {dino} amap sm l 08
[14:16] {dino} stop amap -.36
[14:20] {dino} ugh, rinsed again
[14:20] {dino} wtf amap
[14:26] {Threei}  (US) Rep Cantor (R-VA): Negotiations over the budget situation have made progress, working on trillions in savings
[14:26] {Threei}  - Negotiators are starting to see convergence on savings goals.
[14:26] {Threei}  - Prefers one vote to increase the debt ceiling, rather than a series of shorter-term hikes in the borrowing limit.
[14:26] {Threei}  feeling better?
[14:28] {_nsj100} not very.  good thing i dont spend/balance like these guys do.
[14:28] {Threei}  lol
[14:36] {dino} look at amap, rinses me and runs a dollar fifty
[14:40] {dino} same w/meli, rinses and runs a dollar
[14:47] {dino} tfm strong all day
[14:52] {dino} jobs drop
[14:59] {Threei} Short Setup: CREE  .75 break half lot
[14:59] {Threei}  if stays under .85
[15:15] {samire} target 1 ?
[15:15] {Threei}  1:1, half out
[15:15] {Threei}  stop to .76
[15:16] {samire} thanx
[15:16] {rizvisy1} thanks 3i
[15:16] {Threei}  no target that I can see, will make it up as we go :)
[15:16] {Threei}  welcome guys
[15:16] {Threei}  amazing how this day seemingly totally hopeless in the morning, turned to be profitable
[15:18] {dino} gj vad
[15:19] {Threei}  ty
[15:19] {dino} sm l jobs .45
[15:25] {dino} stop jobs
[15:25] {dino} calling it a day, can't read it
[15:25] {Threei}  take care dino
[15:26] {dino} thx u2
[15:33] {Threei}  trail to .71
[15:39] {Threei}  1:2 baby
[15:39] {Threei}  decide for yourself, cover or trail
[15:39] {Threei}  I am out
[15:40] {Threei}  if trailing, trail to .61
[15:43] {Threei}  life is full of surprizes... still can't get iver how this dayu turned out, lol
[15:43] {Threei}  1:3
[15:43] {Threei}  profits abundance
[15:44] {Threei}  OK guys, I am done for today
[15:44] {Threei}  have a great evening
[15:44] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:44] {_nsj100} thanks muchly gn