Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Nov 22 2011

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Very nice day with 7 wins out of 9 calls. Nothing to complain about, especially on a short week.


Session Time: Tue Nov 22 00:00:01 2011
[08:57] {nemo} hello...ow
[08:57] {Threei}  morning nemo
[08:57] {nemo} it hurts to type
[08:57] {Threei}  ?
[08:58] {nemo} I'm visiting relatives in NJ...the clicking of the keyboard keys is pretty loud
[08:58] {Threei}  oh... lol
[08:58] {nemo} check out how the levels played out yesterday?
[08:59] {Threei}  got too suckered in the action... active day
[09:15] {swill} Good morning
[09:17] {Threei}  swill :)
[09:21] {_nocki} Good morning
[09:21] {Threei}  nocki :)
[09:21] {jakob} good morning
[09:21] {Threei}  jakob :)
[09:24] {Threei}  gap down is moderate
[09:25] {Threei}  and decline overall is failry severe over last couple weeks
[09:26] {Threei}  while daily is broken and barring some radically good news we are in bear market, it's probably time for technical bounce
[09:29] {Threei}  SLW is green
[09:29] {Threei}  would probably be my first candidate for long
[09:29] {Threei}  LVS too, tends to do very well when market is not in panic mode
[09:30] {Threei}  SLW pullback in .80 area will be of interest for entry
[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .90 break if stays above .80
[09:33] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .80 break half lot
[09:33] {Threei}  if stays above .70
[09:34] {Threei}  FCX 1:1
[09:36] {Threei}  SLW 1:1
[09:37] {Threei}  SLW 1:2, out in full
[09:37] {dino} out slw .11, +.20 ty vad
[09:37] {Threei}  :)
[09:38] {dino} out fcx .93, +.12 ty vad
[09:38] {Threei}  welcome, cool start to the day
[09:38] {Threei}  canceling my sell FCX
[09:39] {Threei}  should do better if breaks
[09:39] {thomcbell} aapl strong right out of the gate today
[09:39] {thomcbell} qcom straight up
[09:40] {Threei}  there... out FCX in full
[09:40] {dino} gj
[09:40] {Threei}  +.30
[09:40] {Threei}  ty
[09:40] {Threei}  (IT) Renewed chatter that ECB is again buying peripheral bonds
[09:40] {Threei}  good luck with that
[09:40] {Threei}  some want to have bigger shovel while digging their grave... shrug
[09:41] {Threei} Short Setup: TYC  .80 break half lot
[09:42] {Threei}  if stays under .90
[09:42] {Threei}  don't chase
[09:42] {dino} whr sm l .50
[09:42] {Threei}  if you could get .79 - .78, fine
[09:42] {Threei}  lower, no
[09:44] {Threei}  if going for second chance entry, stop is .86 this time
[09:46] {Threei}  LVS, what a bounce
[09:46] {dino} tyc stop flat
[09:47] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  44 break
[09:47] {Threei}  half lot
[09:47] {Threei}  invalidated for now
[09:49] {dino} dci sm l .85
[09:53] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .15 break
[09:53] {Threei}  if stays under .25
[09:54] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:56] {Threei}  TYC 1:1
[09:58] {dino} whr stop -.27
[09:58] {Threei}  *(US) NOV RICHMOND FED MANUFACTURING INDEX:0 V -2E
[10:00] {Threei}  (US) PIMCO's El-Erian: If the Fed undertakes QE3, there will be some benefits but also collateral damage to the economy - interview
[10:00] {Threei}  - QE3 would further undermine the political reputation of the Fed, damage the dollar.
[10:00] {Threei}  - The Fed has taken pressure to act off of the rest of the US political class.
[10:00] {Threei}  you go boy
[10:00] {Threei}  tell them
[10:03] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .20 break
[10:03] {Threei}  stop above .30
[10:03] {Threei}  target 1:3
[10:03] {Threei}  did I finally get it?
[10:04] {nemo} .90 level vwap
[10:04] {Threei}  exactly 1:3
[10:04] {nemo} .80 level pivot
[10:04] {nemo} tna worth a try here against spy
[10:04] {Threei}  yeah, I got it... 1:1
[10:05] {Threei}  partial, stop to .21
[10:05] {Threei}  scalpers be happy
[10:05] {Threei}  TYC 1:2 finally, out in full
[10:06] {nemo} fmcn pivot at .87, worth a look
[10:06] {Threei}  scariest thing ever...
[10:06] {dino} yeah
[10:06] {Threei}  you should see its volatility yesterday
[10:06] {Threei}  dollars in seconds
[10:07] {Threei}  even paper trading it was very risky {G}
[10:07] {Threei}  LVS 1:2
[10:08] {Threei}  second partial, stop to .11
[10:11] {Threei}  1:3, target hit
[10:12] {Threei}  that 4 out of 4... can I go home?
[10:12] {Threei}  don't rush to answer all at once
[10:13] {swill} wtg
[10:13] {dino} gj
[10:13] {Threei}  ty
[10:13] {Threei}  FMCN... I'll stay away from this thing
[10:16] {dino} dds sm l .53
[10:16] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  44 break
[10:16] {Threei}  if stays above .90
[10:18] {Threei}  still valid
[10:19] {Threei}  1:1
[10:20] {Threei}  stop to .95, whether you took some off the table or not
[10:20] {Threei}  to .99 now
[10:24] {Threei}  1:2
[10:25] {Threei}  can't help but smile... LVS setup was the one on which I spent last two evening writing a chapter
[10:27] {Threei}  1:3, out
[10:28] {Threei}  if you had only half eye open, this hour paid for couple months of troom membership at least
[10:29] {Threei}  (IT) Italy 5-year Gov't bond yield moving higher by towards 6.90%, up over 30bps in session
[10:47] {Threei}  idiots' time
[10:47] {Threei}  (EU) Greece Fin Min Venizelos: ECB focusing on price stability has become a resulted in a deflation threat for the Euro zone
[10:52] {Threei}  Ron... missed 5 for 5 morning
[10:53] {RonS} ...trading platform was frozen due to corrupted files...
[10:53] {RonS} :(
[10:53] {Threei}  grrr
[10:54] {Threei}  who corrupted them? why did you let Corzine in your home?
[10:57] {dino}  s/p app yesterday lod
[10:57] {dino} next gaps down dji 11103, s/p 1155
[11:03] {Threei}  Egyptian politician: Ruling military accepts resignation of government.
[11:03] {Threei}  "Ruling military..." someone remind me, Egypt got rid of dictator, right? right?
[11:04] {dino} military took over
[11:04] {Threei}  but Egypt got rid of dictator
[11:04] {Threei}  got it
[11:04] {dino} governments are falling as fast as euro bonds
[11:04] {Threei}  I may be slow... but eventually I do get it :)
[11:05] {Threei}  in all these goverment changes the most interesting aspect is:
[11:05] {Threei}  who or what comes to rule
[11:05] {Threei}  so far, trend in Europe is:
[11:06] {Threei}  elected governing bodies or persons get reppaced by representatives of thr world financial elite
[11:06] {Threei}  which is quite curious turn of events
[11:07] {dino} ironic
[11:07] {Threei}  very
[11:09] {RonS} cpb in the soup
[11:15] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .40 break
[11:16] {Threei}  if stays under .50
[11:18] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .50 break
[11:18] {Threei}  if stays under .60
[11:19] {Threei}  not a scalp, aggressive entry for .40 break
[11:20] {Threei}  1:1
[11:21] {thomcbell} lvs kind of interesting too here
[11:21] {_nocki} .
[11:42] {patience} .
[11:42] {Threei}  your points being...?
[11:43] {_nocki} we are still here
[11:43] {patience} :)
[11:43] {Threei}  got it
[11:44] {Threei}  good point then
[11:44] {Threei}  'cause I sometimes wonder
[11:46] {dino} sohu sm l .15
[11:47] {dino} lng l .65
[11:47] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .40 break
[11:47] {Threei}  if stays under .50
[11:50] {dino} out sohu .45, +.30
[11:50] {Threei}  nice
[11:50] {dino} ty
[11:52] {RonS} lol...the O taught them well:  Iraq to Impose Sanctions on Exxon Mobile for Doing Business With the Kurdish Region
[11:53] {Threei}  lol
[11:53] {dino} chk hl l .60
[11:54] {Threei}  next thing we know is Exxon imposing sanctions on one of their departments
[11:55] {Threei}  no need to say, SLW invalidated
[11:55] {dino} out lng ..77, +.12
[11:57] {dino} idcc sm l .80
[11:57] {dino} stop is .64
[11:58] {dino} chk stop is .44
[11:58] {dino} brb
[12:00] {cipher} l ibm .17
[12:00] {RonS} ...never seem to find that brb stock...
[12:00] {RonS} :)
[12:00] {Threei}  IMF CREATES NEW PROGRAM TO DEAL WITH MARKET STRESS; 6 MONTH LIQUIDITY LINE
[12:01] {RonS} lol...and what happens after 6 months?
[12:02] {RonS} qotd...:  Okay, Europe's closed, put on as much risk as you possibly can
[12:03] {Threei}  NEW LIQUIDITY LINES TO BE OFFERED FOR COUNTRIES USE TO DEAL WITH CRISIS
[12:03] {Threei}  - New credit line to help break contagion
[12:03] {Threei}  - Govts can use 6 month financing for short term balance of payments requirements
[12:03] {Threei}  - Liquidity line may by up to 500% of member quota
[12:03] {cipher} out ibm .79 +.62
[12:03] {RonS} gj
[12:04] {dino} gj
[12:06] {cipher} thx got lucky
[12:09] {RonS} wow...must be the italian O...Italy's new PM insists he can fix country
[12:10] {dino} lol
[12:10] {dino} let me guess, he will appoint a bunch of professors
[12:13] {RonS} lol...classic...Funny, that IMF press release was datelined from the North Pole, jingle jingle
[12:14] {RonS} rotflol...In France right now they're spraying champagne all over each other like the '86 Mets...
[12:14] {Threei}  lol
[12:15] {dino} seriously?
[12:15] {RonS} pretty sure it's a joke...
[12:15] {dino} i guess because they keep their jobs for 6 more months
[12:45] {dino} idcc stop
[13:05] {Threei}  *(US) TREASURY'S $35B 5-YEAR NOTE AUCTION DRAWS: 0.937% (record low yield); BID-TO-COVER RATIO: 3.15 V 2.90 PRIOR AND 2.83 AVG OVER THE LAST 10 AUCTIONS- Indirect bidders take 45.34% of competitive bids with 59.9% allotted at the high. - Direct bidders take 9.56%, primary dealers 45.1%. - Median 0.90%, low 0.819%
[13:05] {Threei}  record low yiled - on the back of EU worries I take it
[13:16] {Threei}  El-Erian: U.S. Economic Conditions �Terrifying�
[13:17] {dino} heck of a rinse on idcc, takes me out and runs a buck
[13:17] {Threei}  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-22/pimco-s-el-erian-says-u-s-economic-situation-terrifying-as-growth-slows.html
[13:23] {RonS} ya got an email today w/ arabl chatty cathy doll for christmas...
[13:24] {RonS} arab..."noone knows what she says 'cause they don't have the guts to pull the rip cord..."
[13:24] {dino} lol
[13:33] {RonS} All I want for Christmas is a Corzine "Perp-Walk"
[13:36] {RonS} value added...FOMC Minutes: Risks Include Spillover If European Crisis Worsens
[13:36] {Threei}  oh wow
[13:47] {_nocki} :
[13:49] {Threei}  that's double point
[13:55] {patience} in tza
[13:55] {Threei} Short Setup: TRH  .45
[13:56] {Threei}  half lot
[13:56] {Threei}  if stays under .55
[14:10] {_optionman} test
[14:10] {Threei}  passed
[14:15] {Threei}  missed fantastic day optionman
[14:15] {_optionman} day late, dollar short
[14:20] {Threei}  ASUS Transformer Prime is available for preorders
[14:21] {Threei}  who wants to give me a christmas gift, that's your hint {G}
[14:24] {RonS} lol...Wonder if those ETF engineers are thinking about creating an inverse ETF for the 2011 IPO's? $P $Z $GRPN $LNKD
[14:25] {Threei}  GRPN especially...
[14:25] {Threei}  IMO, that's a disaster coming
[14:30] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .75 break
[14:30] {Threei}  if stays under .85
[14:35] {Threei}  1:1
[14:35] {Threei}  that's 7 wins out of 7 resolved calls
[14:35] {Threei}  can I go home finally?
[14:36] {cipher} gj vad
[14:36] {Threei}  ty sir
[14:36] {nemo} ahhhhh...belt up Vad!!!
[14:38] {Threei}  just tried to pat myself on the back... guess what - shoulder is still dislocated from the past performance...
[14:39] {dino} cov fcx +.08, thx
[14:40] {Threei}  :)
[14:47] {Threei}  here comes first stop
[14:47] {Threei}  out TRH
[14:47] {Threei}  11 cents on half lot
[14:47] {Threei}  that was a sacrifice to tarding gods, so they are not too irritated
[14:55] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .20 break
[15:00] {Threei}  no go
[15:00] {Threei}  told ya, let's go home
[15:07] {swill} need to go driving.  thanks for fun day Mr. Vad
[15:09] {Threei}  :)
[15:10] {Threei}  SLW was a rinse it seems
[15:15] {RonS} ...something for nemo?  Nokia $NOK down -7% today, even though their new phone is killer! Someone shoot me a text! http://t.co/r7GNSvqb
[15:15] {Threei}  this is one weird collection of loosely related, totally unrelated and contradictive points:
[15:15] {Threei}  (GE) Germany Fin Min Schaeuble: the Dec 9th EU summit will provide a clear signal to markets that have lost confidence in the Euro zone
[15:15] {Threei}  - reiterates the ECB cannot be used to finance govts.
[15:15] {Threei}  - Feels EU can deal with the crisis using existing tools, yet investor trust is lacking.
[15:15] {Threei}  - Debt levels in the US will cause concern.
[15:18] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Kocherlakota:- Sees no link between inflation and the size and makeup of the Fed balance sheet.
[15:18] {Threei}  seriously?
[15:19] {Threei}  (US) White House Advisor Sperling: Disappointed with growth levels
[15:19] {Threei}  Growth Levels: so sorry...
[15:21] {Threei}  jokes I come across today are especially mean...
[15:21] {Threei}  Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life
[15:22] {RonS} ...ya gotta luv the gallows humor of market participants:  Now might be a good time for $BAC to try that 1 for 10 reverse split, ya know - before Bruce Berkowitz eats a bottle of pills
[15:22] {Threei}  yikes
[15:22] {Threei}  lol
[15:25] {_optionman} good night all, see you tomorrow
[15:25] {Threei}  take care optionman
[15:26] {Threei}  hmmm
[15:26] {Threei}  HTC and Facebook partner to make a smartphone, code name "Buffy"
[15:27] {Threei}  who are the vampires?
[15:28] {RonS} lol:  I predict a Fifth Amendment-fest. RT @Street_Insider: House panel calls Jon Corzine to testify at MF Global hearing -Bloomberg $$
[15:29] {Threei}  heh
[15:30] {Threei}  Corzine: Obama made me do it
[15:31] {RonS} Obama:  Bush made him do it.
[15:32] {RonS} see everyone manana...have an appt...
[15:32] {Threei}  take care ron
[15:32] {Threei}  that was a good one
[15:43] {Threei}  http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/11/euro-zone-economies?fsrc=rss
[15:52] {Threei}  OK guys,. let's call it a day
[15:52] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
[15:52] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:56] {dino} gj and gn

Monday, November 21, 2011

Nov 21 2011

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Nicely profitable day, with unusually high percentage of invalidations. Other than that, most of trades worked like charm.


Session Time: Mon Nov 21 00:00:00 2011
[09:01] {dino} gm all
[09:01] {Threei}  morning dino
[09:02] {swill} good morning
[09:02] {Threei}  swill :)
[09:11] {_nocki} Good morning!!
[09:12] {Threei}  morning nocki
[09:17] {Threei}  (US) Super Committee member Kerry (D-MA): Disagreements are over bush tax cuts; everyone will face higher taxes if deal is not reached
[09:17] {Threei}  - Notes that democrats want tax cuts for 99%, and feels millionaires do not need another tax cut
[09:17] {Threei}  - Highlights willingness of Congress to bring the corporate tax rate to 25%; but if that is done, cannot have the bush tax cuts
[09:17] {Threei}  - Reminder: Earlier chatter circulated that there would be no deal reached at super congress at the upcoming announcement late on today
[09:17] {Threei}  noticed how they start using "99%" rhetorics?
[09:25] {ese} morning
[09:25] {ese} morning
[09:25] {ese} opps
[09:25] {ese} opps
[09:25] {Threei}  hmm
[09:25] {Threei}  ok... I am game
[09:25] {Threei}  hi
[09:25] {Threei}  hih
[09:26] {ese} mornin vad
[09:28] {Threei}  FCX, .75 support to break
[09:28] {Threei}  no...
[09:28] {ese} vad our power went out once last night.....how bout you?
[09:28] {Threei}  let's see if we get any bounces to short into
[09:28] {Threei}  fine here
[09:29] {Threei}  but we have wind warning, so all bets are off
[09:30] {ese} so much for the supposed big snow storm that was suppose to appear on the weekend
[09:30] {Threei}  argh FCX
[09:30] {Threei}  didn't wait for us, eh
[09:31] {Threei}  bounce istead
[09:31] {Threei}  half lot
[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .50 break
[09:31] {Threei}  if holding above .35
[09:32] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:32] {Threei}  SLW is holding better
[09:32] {Threei}  not really ready yet
[09:32] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .40 break
[09:33] {Threei}  if not losing .30 anymore
[09:33] {Threei}  target .70
[09:33] {Threei}  stop under .30 scalpers, .25 day traders
[09:35] {Threei}  SLW, getting more interested
[09:35] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .30 break
[09:35] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:35] {Threei}  FCX 1:1
[09:35] {Threei}  half out , stop to .35
[09:36] {Threei}  scalpers need no guidance
[09:36] {Threei}  they are out and laughing
[09:38] {Threei}  keep LVS on radar for possible double bottom if pullas back to 44 - 44.10 range
[09:39] {Threei}  FCX, scalpers win
[09:40] {pragmatic} RIMM double bottom ?
[09:40] {Threei}  could be
[09:40] {Threei}  .30 is support to hold
[09:40] {Threei}  .40 would be aggressive entry
[09:43] {Threei} Long Setup:  RMBS  .30 break
[09:43] {Threei}  if stays above .15
[09:45] {Threei}  let's tighten it to .19
[09:45] {Threei}  market is too shaky here, don't want to give any stock too much room
[09:46] {Threei}  out
[09:46] {Threei}  RIMM 1:2
[09:46] {Threei}  1:1
[09:46] {pragmatic} out RIMM 1:1. Ty
[09:49] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .60 break if stays under .70
[09:49] {Threei}  a little late
[09:49] {Threei}  don't chase
[09:52] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .40 break
[09:52] {Threei}  if holding above .30
[09:53] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:54] {Threei}  grr FCX
[09:54] {Threei}  got away
[09:55] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .33 break
[09:55] {Threei}  if stays above .25
[09:56] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:57] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .50 break
[09:57] {Threei}  if stays under .60
[09:58] {Threei}  well, you know what's next
[09:58] {Threei}  plenty of invalidations, way more than usual
[09:58] {Threei}  better than stops of course
[09:58] {RonS} breakfast?
[09:58] {Threei}  lol
[10:00] {Threei}  *(US) OCT EXISTING HOME SALES: 4.97M V 4.80ME
[10:00] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .85 break
[10:00] {Threei}  half lot
[10:00] {Threei}  if stays above .70
[10:02] {Threei}  target 34.10 - 34.20
[10:02] {Threei}  if SPY loses .59, that will be it
[10:02] {Threei}  .50
[10:02] {dino} sina sm l .76
[10:04] {dino} out .13, +.37
[10:04] {Threei}  wtg
[10:05] {dino} ty
[10:05] {Threei}  Jefferies Group Inc Reiterates that exposure to European debt remains insignficant, notes once again that the firm has a net short position in European debt - financial press citing letter to clients
[10:05] {Threei}  - Has $134M net short position in European debt.
[10:05] {Threei}  hmmm... weird statement
[10:05] {Threei}  half out TZA
[10:06] {Threei}  out in full
[10:06] {Threei}  too sharp
[10:06] {Threei}  held above stop level with amazing precision
[10:07] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .60 break
[10:07] {Threei}  if stays under .70
[10:09] {Threei}  target 1:2, maybe more
[10:09] {Threei}  will have to decide on the go if getting there
[10:12] {Threei}  no ho
[10:12] {dino} tdg sm l .51
[10:13] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .80 break
[10:13] {Threei}  half lot
[10:13] {Threei}  stop under .70
[10:14] {dino} sohu sm l .47
[10:15] {cipher} ibm l .17
[10:16] {Threei}  1:1 TZA
[10:19] {Threei}  1:2, out
[10:19] {dino} 2202 filled
[10:20] {patience} good morning
[10:20] {dino} 11539 dji gap
[10:21] {Threei}  patience :)
[10:21] {_optionman} test
[10:22] {Threei}  passed... with flying colors :)
[10:23] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .20 break
[10:23] {Threei}  if stays above .10
[10:23] {Threei}  still valid
[10:24] {Threei}  target 1:3
[10:25] {Threei}  play the book with usual partials and trails
[10:25] {ese} L DNDN .60
[10:25] {Threei}  unless scalping... in which case you need my instructions like third nostril
[10:26] {dino} csh sm l .00
[10:27] {ese} add an "a" and it has the appropriate symbol
[10:27] {dino} lol
[10:28] {ese} i like the look of SOHU's 1 min chrt
[10:28] {Threei}  come on SLW... while we are young
[10:29] {Threei}  SPY doesn't look healthy
[10:30] {ese} come on dndn.....a few more cents and you are my Clint Eastwood trade for the day
[10:30] {Threei}  may kill our play
[10:30] {Threei}  no news for this drop
[10:31] {Threei}  no news for this spike either
[10:31] {Threei}  very nervous market
[10:31] {Threei}  (US) Announcement by the Super congress will be made later today if no agreement is reached
[10:32] {Threei}  we got it, nop agreement, who cares... it was clear from the get-go
[10:32] {Threei}  out SLW
[10:32] {Threei}  new lows are coming for SPY
[10:33] {Threei}  DNDN's working, ese
[10:33] {Threei}  nice
[10:33] {Threei}  meanwhile in the bizarro world:
[10:33] {Threei}  American International Group, Inc Former AIG CEO Greenberg sues US govt for $25B on behalf of sharesholders; claims the taking of 80% stake in AIG was a constitutional violation, depriving shareholders of property rights
[10:33] {ese} BABY!!!!!!  out 1/2 dndn .72......2.5 K to go
[10:34] {dino} gj
[10:34] {ese} stop to .70
[10:34] {ese} tks
[10:36] {ese} out balance .70 +.10
[10:36] {Threei}  here come new lows
[10:36] {ese} GO AHEAD "Make my Day"  as Clint would say
[10:36] {Threei}  this threatens to turn into full blown panic day
[10:38] {dino} 11539 filled
[10:39] {ese} at some point in time we would expect the market to stop taking seriously the stupid comments that come out of idiots that work at places like Fitch don't you think?
[10:40] {Threei}  I don't think this is what spooks the market
[10:40] {ese} like that goof ball last week......another off the cuff europe is out of control comment....by them
[10:40] {Threei}  nah... you really think EU problems are not real?
[10:41] {Threei}  if Fitch etc stop commenting, everything will be a-OK?
[10:41] {ese} course they are but it's not the end of the world
[10:41] {Threei}  no, but end of EU and Euro - quite possible
[10:42] {ese} yup........but get on with it.......
[10:42] {Threei}  we already had rating agencies telling us everything was great, while bubble grew
[10:42] {Threei}  maybe it's high time for them to start telling the truth
[10:43] {Threei}  and when they say EU debt is non-repayble, and bond holders will get hurt, isn't it the truth?
[10:44] {ese} of course.....someone has to take the brunt of this
[10:44] {Threei}  well... that's what Fitch is saying
[10:44] {Threei}  and as far as I am concerned, they are saying only half of it
[10:44] {Threei}  actual situation is even worse
[10:45] {ese} my point is that is had been said a ton of times already......market has reacted....done end of story ....get on with it
[10:45] {Threei}  market starts waking up to the idea that EU won't be able to print its way out of it
[10:45] {Threei}  I view it differently... market hasn't reacted on it yet, not even close
[10:45] {Threei}  market stayed up in assumption that solution will come
[10:46] {ese} hmmmmmmm
[10:46] {Threei}  now it starts realzing it may not
[10:46] {Threei}  imagine EU/Euro collapse... do you think it would worth 1 few hundred Dow points drop?
[10:46] {Threei}  a few
[10:46] {Threei}  or more like a few thousands?
[10:47] {thomcbell} s&p futures down 200
[10:47] {thomcbell} kind of scenario
[10:47] {Threei}  easy
[10:48] {ese} in my opinion i think this is the higher low part vad.....major crisis was in 08/09 sept oct nov etc.....
[10:48] {Threei}  that's one point of view...
[10:48] {Threei}  another is:
[10:48] {Threei}  that was only the first leg
[10:49] {Threei}  while problems were more or less US-located
[10:49] {ese} hmmmmm  ya could be iguess
[10:49] {Threei}  now that the whole EU is on a brink of collaspe, we face a new can of worms:
[10:50] {Threei}  imagine bankikng system situation if the whol,e structure disappears
[10:50] {Threei}  and whole currency
[10:50] {Threei}  and project this to the economy which once again will be left with no funding
[10:51] {Threei}  then throw in China which clearly goes for its own hard kanding
[10:51] {Threei}  landing
[10:51] {Threei}  still think we are talking a few hundred points? :)
[10:52] {ese} lol......gotta trust someone though
[10:53] {thomcbell} what elliott wave guys are calling for is essentially the end of the system
[10:53] {thomcbell} spx 200
[10:53] {Threei}  well... to be fair, some of them were ca,lling for that for the last 30 years :)
[10:53] {Threei}  I doubt it will be that bad, but when real crisis hits, it sure will feel like that
[10:54] {ese} ya....that fellow.....Prechter?....bit of a freak i think
[10:54] {ese} he's lost alot of people alot of money
[10:54] {RonS} ya, they forget the good news...we will always have drummers...
[10:54] {RonS} :D
[10:54] {Threei}  new lows
[10:54] {ese} damn right
[10:54] {Threei}  panic is coming
[10:56] {dino} mkts down 7-9% in two weeks
[10:57] {dino} next gaps down 11103 and aa55
[10:57] {dino} 1155
[10:58] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .80 break
[10:59] {Threei}  stop above .90
[11:00] {Threei}  1:1
[11:00] {Threei}  target 1:3
[11:02] {Threei}  1:2 close enough
[11:02] {Threei}  got back that stop earlier in SLW
[11:02] {Threei}  and then some
[11:03] {Threei}  stop for the last piece is .71
[11:06] {Threei}  let's go for 1:3, SLW
[11:06] {Threei}  be a good girl
[11:09] {Threei}  now, here is a great example of the reporting that I'd label "beyond useless"
[11:09] {Threei}  Dow Jones industrial average falls 300 points on Washington budget gridlock, Europe debt woes -AP
[11:10] {Threei}  mind you, if we were up 300 points, they'd report the same, only used "despite"
[11:10] {Threei}  Dow Jones industrial average gains 300 points despite Washington budget gridlock, Europe debt woes -AP
[11:10] {Threei}  can yolu see them reportring this?
[11:10] {Threei}  IMO, easy
[11:11] {Threei}  SLW, done with last portion
[11:15] {Threei}  In Europe, there is a general sense that European officials are helpless to staunch contagion as investors continue to yank money away from the continent. Moodys warned that higher borrowing costs would be credit negative for France, Goldman Sachs warned that sovereign risk is "spreading like wildfire" and Germany's BdB Banking Association warned that even German local governments are already having trouble financing themselves.
[11:18] {Threei}  watching TZA for possible long
[11:19] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .50 break half lot
[11:19] {Threei}  if stays above .40
[11:20] {Threei}  invalidated
[11:21] {Threei}  trade with such tight stop could have been done on full lot, but we had decent morning, I don't want to push too much
[11:21] {Threei}  TZA is volatile one, let's keep it to half lot today
[11:25] {Threei}  while market is uncertain and no clear trades are in sight... we have a few new faces in the room, any questions guys?
[11:25] {Threei}  girls?
[11:26] {Threei}  OK, everything must be crystal clear... good
[11:26] {Threei}  either that or no one wants to talk to me...
[11:27] {Threei}  which is fine too, lol
[11:27] {_optionman} Yes, I do, when you said short set up SLW.80 break, stop above 90, target 1.1, does that mean when slw hits .80 you short
[11:27] {Threei}  when it breaks it rather
[11:27] {Threei}  as in: .80 bids are hit, bid drops to .79
[11:28] {Threei}  idea is, .80 is a support at the moment, ad break of it is indicative of the next move
[11:29] {_optionman} on tza long .80 break, you would go long first break above .80, but if it went below .70 before it went above .80 no trade?
[11:30] {Threei}  right, that's when we say "invalidated"
[11:30] {Threei}  holding above support is necessary condition for a breakout trade to be valid
[11:30] {_optionman} As a scalper would sell at a dime profit and loss?
[11:31] {Threei}  so, the call defines all the conditions
[11:31] {Threei}  right, scalper normally goes for 1:1
[11:31] {Threei}  it's not necessary a dime, we just try to pick trades where stop is around that
[11:31] {Threei}  but you could see some with 15 cents stops today
[11:31] {Threei}  so 1:1 would be reached at 15 cents profit
[11:32] {Threei}  addtionally, take a look at the section titled "how trading room operates"
[11:32] {_optionman} 1.1 means what?
[11:32] {Threei}  where a lot of these things are explained
[11:32] {Threei}  1:1 is risk/reward ratio
[11:33] {Threei}  http://www.realitytrader.com/tradingroom/
[11:33] {Threei}  scroll down to "how trading room operates"
[11:34] {_optionman} Thanks
[11:34] {Threei}  sure thing
[11:35] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .55 break
[11:35] {Threei}  half lot again
[11:35] {Threei}  if stays above .45 scalpers, .40 day traders
[11:36] {Threei}  scalpers 1;1
[11:37] {Threei}  day traders trail stop to .44
[11:37] {Threei}  let's keep it tight and safe
[11:38] {Threei}  day traders 1:1
[11:39] {Threei}  see the logic of the trade's structure, optionman?
[11:39] {_optionman} yes, thank you
[11:39] {Threei}  :)
[11:40] {Threei}  who partials, trail stop to .54 at this point, and aim for 1:2 to close position
[11:40] {Threei}  if SPY gors for new lows here you should be able to get that easy
[11:44] {ese} gotta go all....cya tomorrow
[11:44] {Threei}  take care ese
[11:44] {Threei}  careful with that wind warning
[11:44] {dino} cya ese
[11:44] {swill} see ya ese
[11:44] {Threei}  TZA baby
[11:44] {Threei}  let's go for that 1:2
[11:45] {Threei}  dino... movie report I promised
[11:46] {Threei}  it's not bad, better than I expected... I doubt though it's for those who never read the book, they might not understahd what it's all about
[11:46] {Threei}  kind if "illustration to the book, who read it, knows"
[11:47] {dino} ok, thx
[11:47] {Threei}  OK... out second half TZA
[11:47] {Threei}  oversat my welcome a bit
[11:48] {Threei}  but whatever, nicely profitable trade in any case
[12:19] {Threei}  was tempted by NVDA at 13.80... decided to skip it because of general market weakness at the time
[12:20] {Threei}  too bad
[12:21] {Threei}  look at this... hard to watch without either tears or hysterical laughter (bitter kind)
[12:21] {Threei}  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq698xQTBns&feature=share
[12:25] {_optionman} That's funny
[12:25] {Threei}  I still can't decide to laugh or grind my teeth
[12:25] {Threei}  tried both, hard to do and looks a bit Frankensteiny
[12:26] {Threei}  although wife didn't comment, so maybe that's just how I look on daily basis...
[12:27] {dino} out sohu .02, +.55
[12:27] {Threei}  wtg
[12:27] {Threei}  took patience
[12:27] {dino} yes
[12:34] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .80 break
[12:34] {Threei}  if stays under .90
[12:36] {Threei}  invalidated
[12:38] {Threei}  market commentator memo: when in doubt, your way out is:
[12:38] {Threei}  'I don't think so, but it sure could be likely'
[12:39] {Threei}  I really need to learn to talk like this... much easier than setup with no way to pretend I was right if I am not
[12:39] {Threei}  let's see:
[12:39] {Threei}  FCX is not a short in my opinion but it sure could be likely that it is
[12:39] {Threei}  there... go ahead and try to trade on this
[12:54] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .50 break if stays under .60
[12:54] {Threei}  .55 as agressive entry is possible
[12:55] {Threei}  if you go for it, stop is the same .61
[12:56] {Threei}  invalidated
[12:56] {Threei}  that becomes word of the day... don't remember so many invalidations in one day
[13:02] {Threei}  (EU) EU plans to implement additional control over budgets at countries receiving aid is facing difficulties - financial press draf
[13:02] {Threei}  t- Plans involved bringing struggling counties under oversight until 3/4 of their aid has been repaid
[13:02] {Threei}  - Measures being explored could include obliging countries to request aid if needed and having those countries consider austerity
[13:02] {Threei}  essentially takeover of sovereign states... unbelievable
[13:03] {Threei}  (GE) German Chancellor Merkel affirms opposition to joint euro bond issuance - CDU party spokesperson
[13:07] {thomcbell} lvs 43.66 entry Vad
[13:07] {Threei}  long?
[13:07] {Threei}  no
[13:07] {Threei}  not unless it consolidates closer to it for a while
[13:07] {thomcbell} k
[13:08] {Threei}  .56 I would consider
[13:08] {Threei}  there was ascending triangle l,eading to it
[13:10] {Threei}  FMCN...
[13:14] {Threei}  wow
[13:15] {dino} fmcn
[13:17] {Threei}  serious bloodletting
[13:18] {Threei}  if want some serious adrenalin play,
[13:18] {Threei}  small shares,
[13:19] {Threei}  get ready
[13:19] {Threei}  15 break
[13:19] {dino} muddy waters cov sell, fraud claimed
[13:19] {Threei}  yeah
[13:19] {Threei}  stop would be under .70
[13:19] {Threei}  nope, too early
[13:22] {Threei}  panic
[13:23] {Threei}  12.80 break
[13:23] {Threei}  no
[13:23] {Threei}  ummm... too hysterical
[13:23] {Threei}  lol, look at this
[13:27] {Threei}  mama
[13:29] {Threei}  halt
[13:29] {patience} .
[13:33] {Threei}  opened for the next leg of opanic, exaggerated and fueled by the halt
[13:33] {Threei}  idiots
[13:38] {Threei}  Egypt's cabinet submitted its resignation to ruling Army council
[13:39] {Threei}  reads lkike from some distopian novel
[13:41] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .80 break
[13:41] {Threei}  if stays under .90
[13:45] {Threei}  this is what, third halt FMCN?
[13:47] {_optionman} what would stop be on fcx
[13:47] {Threei}  [13:41] {Threei} if stays under .90
[13:48] {Threei}  that signifies the stop level, just above .90
[13:48] {Threei}  and tells tyou where 1;1 will be
[13:49] {dino} wow went to 8s
[13:53] {Threei}  amazing eh?
[13:55] {Threei}  time for violence?
06[13:55] * Threei hits FCX over the head with 2x4
[13:57] {Threei}  covering half
[13:57] {Threei}  1:1
[13:57] {Threei}  scalpers are out
[13:59] {_optionman} I'm out with scalp, very small size, first day here learning
[13:59] {_optionman} Thanks
[13:59] {Threei}  nothing's wrong with that
[13:59] {Threei}  welcome
[14:14] {Threei}  (US) Fed's Lockhart: Productivity gains helped keep employment down
[14:14] {Threei}  yes... it's productivity' fault
[14:16] {Threei}  (US) Super commitee member Senator Baucus: Still moving forward, have a new idea that is being worked on at the super congress
[14:31] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .40 break
[14:38] {Threei}  1:1
[14:42] {Threei}  unuisually high % of invalidations, but those that do trigger work nicely
[15:09] {dino} sina sm l .28
[15:12] {dino} stop is .999
[15:18] {dino} stop
[15:20] {dino} rinsed
[15:23] {Threei}  (SP) Spain Govt requesting that data providers change quotation benchmark for bond prices - FT
[15:23] {Threei}  huh?
[15:23] {Threei}  change 7 to 3 so it doesn't look scary?
[15:23] {Threei}  I need translation
[15:24] {dino} bank of spain takes over banco de valencia
[15:25] {Threei}  (SP) Spain PM-elect Rajoy: Austerity measures have been approved, it is Spain's duty to strengthen the euro
[15:25] {Threei}  well... approved by tone-deaf government or approved by the people?
[15:30] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .45 break
[15:30] {Threei}  if stays above .35
[15:31] {dino} chk going green
[15:40] {Threei}  let's trail to .39
[15:40] {Threei}  too close to eod, no need to risk much
[15:41] {Threei}  out
[15:46] {Threei}  1:1
[15:46] {Threei}  shrug
[15:52] {_optionman} Good night all
[15:52] {Threei}  thank you all
[15:52] {Threei}  have a great evening
[15:52] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[15:52] {swill} thank you
[16:00] {patience} ty vad

Friday, November 18, 2011

Nemo's Findings-week of 11/20

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Here are the levels for next week.  I'll be on the road so there won't be any mid-week updates.  Levels are tightening up again.  Holiday week.  Month changeover middle of the next week.  No predictions, but could be a recipe for chop chop chop if the Eurofantasy stays in tact.




Here are the links:

http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=6045dbe3-666d-4f3e-8f34-bf4a0d9b348d

http://www.freestockcharts.com?emailChartID=0b1157d3-d924-4a95-b660-87014f2c3566

Market Week Wrap-up


Trade The News Weekly market update: Market Week Wrap-up

- Contagion from the European debt crisis spread to the core of the euro zone this week, driving steady declines on global equity markets. The cost for European banks to swap euros for dollars climbed to levels last seen in late 2008. Yields climbed ominously on the debt of semi-core and AAA-rated core euro zone member states France, Austria and even Finland. The yield on Italian 10-year debt spent part of the week above the key 7% level and the Spanish 10-year yield registered its first reading above 6% since the ECB renewed its SMP program in early August. In fact it was only repeated and substantial ECB bond purchases that forced Italian yields back below the key 7% level. Three-month LIBOR rose to its highest level in four months, while the spread between offer prices from European bond sellers and bids from buyers remained substantially wider. Investors had reason to worry about the EFSF after press reports suggested that the fund was only able to successfully sell a €3B, 10-year offering in support of Ireland last week by buying some of the debt itself. With markets questioning whether Europe has the tools it needs to save itself, attention has turned to the European Central Bank. ECB members forcefully resisted calls for the bank to adopt policies similar to those used by the Fed in 2008, insisting that the ECB would not become the lender of last resort. However, there were reports late in the week that European officials were discussing proposals for the ECB to lend funds to the IMF which could then lend them back to troubled euro zone states. Further exacerbating the sense of panic was a series of weak Q3 GDP reports, indicating that growth is rapidly decelerating. In the US, there were a few more decent economic numbers: the November Empire Manufacturing survey delivered its first positive reading since May of this year, while the October retail sales report was a bit better than expected. The weekly claims data "improved" noticeably, however analysts cite unemployed workers simply running out of benefits for the bulk of the declines. Regardless consternation is palpable that Europe's woes could eventually find their way to the other side of the pond keeping the lid on US Treasury yields. The benchmark 10-year finished the week at 2% while the long bond remains at 3%. For the week the DJIA fell 2.9%, the Nasdaq slipped 4%, and the S&P500 declined 3.8%.

- In energy markets, the inflated spread between Brent crude and WTI prices narrowed noticeably this week. The spread collapsed below $8.00 at one point on Thursday, a move of more than $10 in little over a week, although the spread widened out again later in the week as WTI prices fell back to where they entered the week. The catalyst was a decision by Enbridge, Inc to reverse the direction of crude oil flows in the Seaway pipeline, enable the transport of oil from Cushing, Oklahoma to the U.S. Gulf Coast. The pipeline switch should help drain the excess of crude oil inventories in and around Cushing that has held down WTI prices. Nonetheless, analysts are not expecting Brent and WTI return to parity any time soon. A surge in production from shale oil and Canada's tar sands means that, even after the reversal of the Seaway pipeline, there will still be a surplus of oil in Oklahoma.

- In the US, the rest of the retail complex reported quarterly results this week, with a brace of reports that featured few standout Q3 reports and a lot of stresses from the poor economic environment. Walmart missed profit targets by a hair in its Q3 and warned that margins would shrink in Q4, although comps improved over last quarter's showing. Target's results met expectations, but on the conference call executives warned that the consumer environment is poor and is likely to remain uneven. JC Penny disappointed investors with a pre-tax loss, contracting margins and negative same-store sales. Apparel name Abercrombie & Fitch widely missed profit expectations despite robust same-store sales. Among the better names, high-end retailer Saks beat expectations, as did Home Depot.



- The euro was once again on the defensive this week as officials struggled to contain the damage from debt crisis contagion in semi-core and core euro zone nations. Every day brought fresh rumors that the ECB was buying peripheral bonds (particularly Spanish and Italian paper). Some Italian banks were said to have asked the ECB to widen the type of collateral it would accept. EUR/USD began the week just shy of 1.3800, at its highs of the week, after the ECB's Weidmann stopped short of reiterating past Bundesbank opposition to the ECB's main interest rate falling below 1%. ECB member Stark stated that the bank still had room to maneuver on rates. EUR/USD approached a key one-month channel support line at 1.3410 and it held numerous attempts to test below the level. The technical price action for the euro saw headwinds particularly in the EUR/JPY pair at the 104.70 level. The inability for the cross to regain a foothold above the level could see it test parity. The USD/CHF pair tested one-month highs above 0.9220 while the EUR/CHF cross held above the 1.24 handle. Dealers believe it is only a matter of time before the SNB raised the floor in the EUR/CHF cross from the current 1.20 level.

- The USD/JPY declined to 76.53, the highest level for the yen since the Oct 31st solo intervention by the BOJ. USD/JPY pair continued to test below the 77 handle which prompted FX comments from the Japanese PM Noda about potential intervention. Dealers said that large Japanese fund Kokusai Re has been liquidating all of its Italian BTP bond holdings over past two weeks.

- The BoJ cut its assessment on the economy for the first time since April when Japan was hobbled by the mid-March earthquake. The BOJ noted that economic recovery is now working at a more moderate pace due to a slowdown overseas as well as the uncertainty over the full impact of Thailand floods. Earlier in the week, Japan Q3 preliminary GDP did show an impressive rise of 1.5% q/q - the highest rate of growth since 2003 - but that rate of growth had more to do with the debilitating impact of the March quake. In turn, risk aversion further boosted Japan currency toward ¥76.50 levels, the lowest USD/JPY rate since last month's solo intervention.

- In China, the PBoC lowered the yield on its one-year bill auction for the second consecutive week, triggering additional speculation that Beijing could make a move soon on monetary policy following a spate of declining inflation data. PBoC advisor Lee remarked that lower bill rates only reflect market speculation over easing and should not be taken as a signal for a move on rates. Property prices data in China's biggest cities remained frothy, as new home prices rose in 67 of 70 cities but existing home sales fell m/m in both Shanghai and Beijing. For the week, Shanghai Composite finished the week down 2.6% at 2,416, the lowest close in three weeks.

Nov 18 2011

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Decent day with solid profits. Second half of the day was a bit too boring but such is Friday.


Session Time: Fri Nov 18 00:00:00 2011
[08:56] {dino} gm all
[08:59] {Threei}  morning dino
[08:59] {Threei}  early video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bdob6QRLRJU#t=35s
[09:11] {dino}  cramer ultra bear this a.m.
[09:11] {Threei}  hmmm
[09:12] {Threei}  that makes me rethink my initial "short into strength" idea
[09:12] {dino} he was ultra bull last week, contrary indicator
[09:12] {Threei}  never fails
[09:13] {Threei}  his consistency is nothing short of spectacular
[09:14] {RonS} gm...fwiw hearing max pain spy 1240
[09:14] {Threei}  ron :)
[09:14] {Threei}  looked at that video?
[09:15] {RonS} yes, the brits are stunning in their elocution...and the look of the other guys is pure constipation
[09:15] {Threei}  farage is my hero
[09:19] {Threei}  (EU) Germany's Commerzbank CEO Blessing: Euro zone stability pact has failed in its current form
[09:19] {Threei}  - Sees insufficient investors for the euro zone bonds; has seen this lead to two separate investor classes
[09:19] {Threei}  - Government debt at this time cannot be effectively insured against default
[09:19] {Threei}  - Unlimited ECB bond purchases is 'very problematic'
[09:20] {Threei}  this piece of news from yesterday is absolutely unbelieavable:
[09:20] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/8XlBL
[09:20] {Threei}  this sounds to me like WWIII stuff
[09:21] {jakob} good morning
[09:21] {Threei}  jakob :)
[09:22] {Threei}  btw, dino... I am likely to finally watch Altas Shrugged over the weekend... will report Monday
[09:23] {Threei}  well... Cramer or not, but market still looks like short the bounces to me at this point
[09:24] {dino} let me know
[09:29] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .50 break half lot
[09:30] {Threei}  if stays under .60
[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .50 break
[09:30] {dino} tdg sm l .99
[09:31] {Threei}  FCX 1:1
[09:32] {Threei}  1:2
[09:32] {Threei}  out
[09:32] {dino} gj
[09:32] {Threei}  SLW if stays under .65
[09:34] {Threei}  SLW, trail to .61
[09:34] {pragmatic} anyone in slw? Not in short list for me
[09:34] {Threei}  to .56
[09:35] {swill} not on my list either
[09:36] {Threei}  to .51
[09:37] {Threei}  1;1
[09:38] {Threei} Short Setup: SLV  .95
[09:38] {Threei}  aww, late
[09:38] {Threei}  SLW 1:2, cover in full
[09:39] {RonS} siro sm l .00
[09:39] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  46 break half lot
[09:41] {Threei}  stop .12
[09:43] {Threei}  daily chart OMG looks like it sounds
[09:43] {Threei}  LVS 1:1
[09:46] {Threei} Short Setup: RIMM  .65 break
[09:46] {Threei}  LVS 1:2
[09:46] {Threei}  out in full .65
[09:46] {Threei}  RIMM stop above .70
[09:46] {Threei}  very tight
[09:48] {Threei}  no go
[09:48] {Threei}  wow LVS
[09:48] {Threei}  can I have some back?
[09:51] {pragmatic} tx LVS +.10
[09:51] {Threei}  humble...
[09:51] {Threei}  what do you know, for once Cramer was right
[09:52] {pragmatic} what? isn't he the most knowledgeable man in market ?
[09:54] {dino} pega sm l .75
[09:56] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .05 break
[09:56] {Threei}  if stays above .95
[09:57] {Threei}  still valid
[09:57] {Threei}  target .25
[09:59] {Threei}  lets trail to .99
[09:59] {Threei}  was 1 cent to 1;1
[10:00] {Threei}  1:1
[10:00] {Threei}  half out
[10:01] {Threei}  stop to .04
[10:01] {RonS} Leading Indicators: Prior 0.2%, Market Expects 0.6%, Actual +0.9%
[10:02] {Threei}  out
[10:08] {dino} sohu sm l .30 ave
[10:13] {RonS} out siro 42.00 +1.00
[10:14] {Threei}  wtg
[10:14] {RonS} ty
[10:18] {dino} gj
[10:18] {Threei}  Euro vs US Dollar (GE) German Foreign Ministry said to have confirmed details of leaked memo; confirms it has been considering permitting more euro zone orderly defaults beyond that of Greece - financial press
[10:18] {Threei}  ***Reminder: Overnight the UK Telegraph published a German memo that revealed plans for deeper European integration. The Telegraph reported that, according to the leaked document, a European body with the authority to take over struggling states should be established to deal with the current crisis.
[10:18] {Threei}  - The proposals urge the European Stability Mechanism (ESM) should be changed into an IMF for the EU.
[10:18] {Threei}  - The European Monetary Fund (EMF) would be able to take full fiscal control of a failing nations, incl taking them into receivership.
[10:19] {Threei}  I can hardly believe that
[10:19] {RonS} when did sovereign rights go out the window?
[10:20] {Threei}  on the good news front: Playbook tablet can be had for 199, $300 sale
[10:22] {_jbb2011} EU countries will love hearing about the new German ambitions of control...
[10:22] {Threei}  they already do
[10:22] {RonS} ...and tim tebow stunk it up for 55 minutes, then won the game in the last 5...for the third time in a row
[10:22] {Threei}  saw that video of Nigel's speech?
[10:23] {Threei}  oh the irony worth the Taoist tale: EU was supposed to prevent exactly this, hegemony of any single state, speifically Germany
[10:23] {Threei}  and led right to that
[10:25] {Threei}  I am telling you... either EU falls apart quickly with mutual unhappiness, or they try to keep it together for longer and end up in bloody conflict
[10:26] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .15 break
[10:26] {Threei}  if stays under .25
[10:29] {Threei}  no go
[10:30] {Threei}  we had a nice morning, and I want to go to weekend profitable, so let's apply this to the rest of the day:
[10:30] {Threei}  http://blog.realitytrader.com/2011/10/profit-how-do-you-handle-it.html
[10:36] {pragmatic} guess dino read your blog and quit :)
[10:38] {swill} driving for a bit.  money in trunk
[10:39] {Threei}  hmmm
[10:39] {Threei}  let us know details of your route pls
[10:39] {swill} straight back to market
[10:40] {dino} csh sm l .40
[10:46] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .45 break
[10:46] {dino} dgit sm l .50
[10:46] {Threei}  if stays above .35
[10:48] {Threei}  playing for 1:2, maybe more
[10:48] {Threei}  with normal partials
[10:50] {Threei}  if you look at SPY, you'll see that this FCX play is actually a play for SPY break of 122.50
[10:50] {Threei}  1:1
[10:50] {Threei}  play by the book
[10:50] {Threei}  stop for the balance to .44
[10:51] {Threei}  changing target to 1:3, want to sell 1/4 at 1:2
[10:52] {Threei}  resistance at .60 is powerful enough, if broken - should rpovide great momentum
[10:55] {Threei}  out second half
[10:56] {Threei}  ugh... rinse
[10:57] {Threei}  discipline is a bitch sometimes
[11:00] {dino} out sohu .71, +.41
[11:02] {RonS} gj
[11:03] {Threei}  nice one
[11:03] {dino} ty
[11:08] {RonS} arba breakdown
[11:12] {Threei}  the weirdest headline of the day:
[11:12] {Threei}  77% Have Unfavorable Opinion of Freddie Mac, 73% Say Same of Fannie Mae
[11:12] {Threei}  seriously? in someone's eyes one is preferable over the other?
[11:15] {Threei}  watching TZA for entry on pullback
[11:20] {dino} cpsi drop
[11:22] {dino} cpsi vsm l .24 ave
[11:27] {_nocki} Hello everybody, nocki is here watching and try to find out what criteria do you look for that a trade come in near consideration
[11:27] {Threei}  hi nocki
[11:28] {Threei}  our approasch is simply hunting for the setups we play
[11:28] {Threei}  there are several chart configurations that create foundation of our system,
[11:28] {Threei}  scanner spits out stocks that match those setups,
[11:28] {Threei}  plus we play a few usual suspects
[11:29] {Threei}  behavior of which we know from extended tracking
[11:29] {Threei}  as soon as setup is formed, we have our play,
[11:30] {Threei}  setup comes iwht standard procedure of how it has to be played
[11:30] {Threei}  and we simply follow that procedure, with results that are predictable on average
[11:31] {_nocki} The rules are very clear, but are the setups explained somewhere on your site? Because it looks for me that there are special setups for different marketconditions.
[11:32] {dino} cpsi stop
[11:32] {thomcbell} it takes several days to get in gear with the tempo
[11:32] {Threei}  setups are discussed in great details in books and courses
[11:32] {Threei}  TTR, MPP, video course
[11:33] {thomcbell} highly recommended btw
[11:33] {Threei}  and one more is coming, fully devoted to pattern recognition, with each and every setup analyzed in great details with over a hundred examples taken from actual trades
[11:34] {Threei}  with videos where a viewer will train his eye to recognize the setup as it forms
[11:34] {RonS} http://tinyurl.com/cjdydqc   these guys are worse than bad
[11:35] {Threei}  oh boy
[11:36] {RonS} atw sm l .90
[11:36] {Threei}  also, nocki, whole educational blog contains a lot of details about our trading approach
[11:36] {Threei}  use blog summary for easy navigation
[11:36] {Threei}  http://blog.realitytrader.com/2011/10/blog-summary-updated.html
[11:45] {RonS} atw s/l to .20
[11:46] {cipher} s atw .33
[11:47] {cipher} out .27 +.06 not working
[11:48] {_nocki} Ok, thanks a lot. The blog have great quality. But for my understanding, how much clear defined Setups do you have and are them structured for different marketconditions?
[11:49] {Threei}  about 4-5 setups, with some variations about how exactly to play them depending on various factors
[11:50] {Threei}  JBE, DBI, C&H, DB, DT
[11:50] {RonS} atw stop .21 +.31
[11:51] {dino} gj
[11:53] {RonS} nope, rinsed
[11:55] {thomcbell} slw short setup?
[11:56] {dino} cpsi sm l .33 ave
[11:58] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .55 break
[11:58] {Threei}  which is to say, yes :)
[12:00] {Threei}  .65 stop
[12:04] {Threei}  1:1
[12:04] {Threei}  nocki... that was JBE setup )
[12:04] {Threei}  oops, DBI
[12:04] {Threei}  forgive my Friday-related brain fart
[12:05] {Threei}  1:2
[12:07] {_nocki} JBE+DBI is Jump-Base Explosion + Drop-Base Implosion? So, you are not watching everyday  a special number of stocks, you trade what is coming to the scanner, indifferent low/high price stocks, just a minimum of daily average volume?
[12:07] {Threei}  JBE and DBI, yes
[12:07] {Threei}  watching both, usual suspcets and whatever scanner spits out
[12:08] {Threei}  scanner has certain conditions set, so it doesn't offer me too low volume, too wide sporead etc
[12:08] {thomcbell} 1/3 left on slw 32.34 stop
[12:10] {thomcbell} flat slw
[12:13] {RonS} csh...stb...
[12:14] {_nocki} Thanks a lot. Think i have now an idea how you look at the market. PS: nice call
[12:14] {dino} tdg sm l .25
[12:15] {dino} csh destroyed last few days
[12:17] {cipher} csh l .12 sm
[12:18] {RonS} tried .10  missed
[12:19] {dino} ntap sm l .00
[12:19] {cipher} ibm l .95
[12:20] {RonS} ann sm l .68
[12:22] {Threei}  if I tried to plot the fastest, most effective and cheap way, it would be this:
[12:22] {Threei}  get TTR in the library,
[12:22] {Threei}  get Best Value Offer, using free two months room access
[12:22] {Threei}  while on that, get the new course with 50% discount as room member,
[12:22] {cipher} ibm stop -.15
[12:23] {Threei}  and then down the road, in a few months, when practical things become clear, get Taoist Trader, as an ultimate jewel in your educational crown
[12:26] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .40 break
[12:26] {Threei}  risky one
[12:26] {Threei}  let's do half lot
[12:26] {Threei}  this is play for SPY break of .50
[12:27] {Threei}  invalidated for now
[12:30] {RonS} out ann .89  +.21
[12:32] {cipher} l tza 00
[12:38] {_nocki} TTR cannot find, what means that? Why you determine stops in most cases with 10 cent?  Why not 5, 20 or 30? You don't get in problems because of HFT-trading?
[12:38] {Threei}  TTR = Techniques of Tape Reading
[12:38] {dino} out tdg .32, +1.07
[12:39] {Threei}  I don't determine them in 10 cents, I determine stop location by the chart - it's just that I try to pick mostly charts that offer such stop placement
[12:39] {RonS} wtg
[12:39] {dino} thx
[12:40] {Threei}  and no, HFT has zero bearing on our or anyone else's trading
[12:40] {cipher} nice dino
[12:40] {dino} ty
[12:40] {Threei}  but it serves as a great excuse for those who can't trade
[12:40] {RonS} i.e. hft ate my lunch?
[12:41] {Threei}  uhhu
[12:41] {Threei}  and my homework
[12:42] {Threei}  it's also great promotional vehicle for those who seek cheap popularity
[12:42] {Threei}  start swearing about HFT, and your popularity grows exponentially
[12:42] {Threei}  thousands of followers flock in and love your every word
[12:43] {Threei}  say that HFT is harmless to one's trading, and they hate you with scorching passion
[12:44] {Threei}  guess what kind of hate mail this article earned me:
[12:44] {Threei}  http://blog.realitytrader.com/2010/07/culprits-and-scapegoats.html
[12:45] {Threei}  this too btw: http://blog.realitytrader.com/2009/08/manipulation-myth-and-reality.html
[12:48] {cipher} tza stop -.08
[13:05] {dino} dds sm l .01
[13:06] {Threei}  (EU) CNBC's Liseman (citing sources): The idea of having the ECB lend money to the IMF in order to fund euro zone bailouts is "long dead"
[13:06] {Threei}  it was stillborn, you idiots
[13:07] {Threei}  (IA) White House: Will continue pressure on Iran unilaterally or otherwise through sanctions
[13:07] {Threei}  Iran: sanctions? sanctions?? oh no!! anything but that!!
[13:08] {dino} csh sm l .03
[13:11] {RonS} csh...no pulp today...
[13:11] {dino} nope
[13:12] {dino} scanners not moving
[13:13] {Threei}  i just poked mine
[13:13] {Threei}  like poking an amoeba
[13:20] {_nocki} intersting point of view in your blog. sounds logical to me.
[13:22] {Threei}  15 years of trading... one thing never changes:
[13:22] {Threei}  no matter what kind of market we have, people complain that it's impossible to tarde
[13:22] {RonS} nemo?
[13:22] {Threei}  lol
[13:22] {Threei}  lolthere is always new thing to blame
[13:23] {Threei}  program trading ruining the markets - hear that from about 2001
[13:23] {Threei}  yet my setups are still the same
[13:23] {Threei}  and work the same
[13:24] {Threei}  it used to be "darn market makers"
[13:24] {dino} sm l sohu .75
[13:25] {Threei}  mantra of 1998: ah, GS is at the offer, everyone sell faster
[13:25] {RonS} lol...nemo pronounces name a la "name-o"...first time i heard i thought oh sh*t he's eastern european too
[13:26] {RonS} dang...like pulling teeth got csh .87 to 48.12
[13:27] {dino} better than i
[13:29] {RonS} way to end housing glut?...Reno fire update: 9,500 evacuated, at least 20 homes destroyed
[13:32] {Threei}  (IR) Ireland Fin Min Noonan: Would prefer not to raise the income tax, sees no further VAT tax increases after planned 2012 hik
[13:32] {Threei}  - Tax policy will focus on indirect methods of taxation.
[13:32] {Threei}  everyone is tax-happy
[13:32] {Threei}  direct or indirect, it's a tax
[13:32] {Threei}  and you tax population that barely makes ends meet
[13:42] {Threei}  B.C. Supreme Court grants City of Victoria injunction to clear Occupy Victoria protesters from Centennial Square
[13:42] {Threei}  haleluja
[13:45] {dino} out csh +.30
[13:46] {RonS} gj
[13:47] {dino} ty
[13:49] {dino} out dds .31, +.30
[13:50] {dino} tdg sm l .00 break
[13:56] {swill} going for a little drive
[14:07] {dino} out tdg .38 ave, +.37
[14:08] {dino} too soon
[14:09] {Threei}  nice anyway
[14:10] {dino} thx
[14:17] {thomcbell} fcx 37.51 Vad?
[14:18] {thomcbell} im not confused here i was confused 50 handles higher
[14:19] {Threei}  I can't tell
[14:21] {thomcbell} that last sentence was for another box - sorry guys
[14:29] {RonS} qotd:  Twenty or 25 below is tolerable, but past 30 below it’s a whole different ball of wax
[14:29] {RonS} some guy commenting on the -41 f in fairbanks
[14:30] {Threei}  heh
[14:30] {Threei}  reminds me my reaction when I learned that -40 is the point where F and C meet
[14:30] {Threei}  I asekd what about below that
[14:31] {Threei}  and got answer: who cares, it's impossible to tolerate anyway
[14:35] {RonS} holy smokes:  http://tinyurl.com/83fyglx
[14:38] {Threei}  sigh
[14:49] {Threei}  close to eod market should unfreeze...
[14:49] {Threei}  which way is the question
[14:49] {Threei}  I think down...
[14:49] {Threei}  but I always think that, lol
[14:53] {dino} value added, credit suisse cuts cedc to 3 from 12. stock currently trades at 3.23
[14:54] {Threei}  rofl
[14:57] {thomcbell} thnks for the heads up Credit Suisse
[14:57] {thomcbell} nice job
[14:57] {Threei}  I don't get it
[14:57] {Threei}  no one needs vodka anymore?
[14:57] {dino} thats why they get the big bucks
[14:57] {Threei}  you'd think with all these crises this stock should fly
[14:58] {dino} yeah, drink your sorrows away
[15:00] {Threei}  every russian knows, world looks bleak only until you put away frist bottle
[15:00] {Threei}  after second it's a sky encrusted with diamonds
[15:01] {Threei}  after third everyone loves you and you love everyone
[15:01] {Threei}  but be careful not to get a food poisoning from oatmeal cookie... you may feel bad then after fourth bottle
[15:02] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .95 break
[15:03] {Threei}  .06 stop
[15:09] {Threei}  let's trail to .03
[15:10] {Threei}  out
[15:13] {swill} Vad, how is the new coarse coming?
[15:14] {Threei}  1/3 ready
[15:15] {swill} I'm looking forward to it
[15:15] {Threei}  pushing to have it done in a month
[15:15] {swill} fast. wow
[15:16] {Threei}  well... it's execution
[15:16] {dino} sprd drop
[15:16] {Threei}  slow part is gathering material, structuring it, organizing
[15:16] {Threei}  outting together the idea
[15:16] {Threei}  whe it all is ready, execution goes rapidly
[15:16] {dino} sm l .75
[15:20] {swill} true. what for will it be in.
[15:20] {swill} from
[15:20] {swill} form
[15:21] {Threei}  two parts,
[15:21] {dino} out ntap -.03, out dgit +.03, out suhu flat
[15:21] {Threei}  one is screenshots and text with explanations, will be done in the same form as Taoist Trader
[15:21] {Threei}  another is training videos
[15:21] {Threei}  in a form of videos :)
[15:22] {swill} I love those videos
[15:22] {Threei}  these will be diferent a bit
[15:22] {Threei}  no narration,
[15:22] {Threei}  idea is:
[15:22] {Threei}  t show a screenshot where chart formation takes shape, leaving a few soconds for you to see it and identify it
[15:23] {Threei}  then show next one- the same with with arrows and lines and annotations, so you can see whether you identified it correctly
[15:23] {Threei}  move to another pairt
[15:23] {Threei}  pair
[15:23] {Threei}  a few of such videos, with accelerating pace
[15:24] {Threei}  so when you are done with them you can recognize the setup from a single glance
[15:24] {Threei}  which is exactly the purpose... visual recognition
[15:25] {swill} cool
[15:26] {Threei}  eventually, the purpose is to move you from "thinking" part to "seeing"
[15:27] {Threei}  my chess experience with worl class grandmaster, I think I told the story
[15:27] {swill} yes
[15:27] {Threei}  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bronstein
[15:27] {Threei}  he was a hero of it
[15:31] {swill} interesting
[15:35] {swill} thanks for the update.  have you worked out the cost yet?
[15:37] {Threei}  same as Taoist Trader, with the same 50% discount for room members
[15:37] {Threei}  market stays frozen...
[15:42] {RonS} have a good weekend everyone...
[15:42] {Threei}  have a good one ron
[15:42] {Threei}  I am still hoping to catch last short
[15:43] {Threei}  (US) DOE's Chu: Solar market to "explode" in the coming decades - financial press
[15:43] {Threei}  which is why he showers money on various solyndras now
[15:52] {dino}   sprd stop -.30
[15:57] {Threei}  ok, probably too late
[15:57] {Threei}  no decisive movwe, everything remained locked in narrow range
[15:57] {Threei}  thank you all, have a great weekend
[15:57] {Threei}  see you Monday
[15:57] {swill} thank you
[16:03] {_nocki} thank you
[16:04] {Threei}  welcome, see you monday

Thursday, November 17, 2011

Nemo's midweek(?) findings

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Oy vay...O.K!  I tried uploading to YouTube to see if I could get better quality video.  That one has to do this makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine!  Anyway....here it is...

http://youtu.be/yy1AnAkdi8g

Hopefully it is better...

Nov 17 2011

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As expected, as soon as market stopped wobbling and elected direction, we got our favorite trading environment. Very active day with a lot of winning trades of all kinds. Most were of course on a short side, with FCX and TZA being main actors.


Session Time: Thu Nov 17 00:00:00 2011
[09:03] {swill} :)Good Morning
[09:03] {Threei}  good morning swill
[09:03] {Threei}  is it really time to wake up?
[09:03] {Threei}  I hoped for 10 more min
[09:03] {swill} Its yours for the asking
[09:04] {Threei}  the rest are asleep yet... so we can afford a few more min
[09:04] {swill} for sure
[09:12] {Threei}  heh
[09:12] {Threei}  (EU) Some discussions have occured on idea of ECB lending money to the IMF for lending to euro zone states - financial press
[09:12] {Threei}  - Seen as a potential way to get around rules that restrict ECB from lending directly.
[09:13] {Threei}  get this? restrictive rules is the problem
[09:13] {dino} gm all
[09:13] {Threei}  dino :)
[09:18] {Threei}  improving unemployment numbers boosted market
[09:18] {Threei}  fairly muted reaction though
[09:20] {Threei}  a lot of pundits designated yesteday's Fitch comments as the reason for selling
[09:21] {Threei}  I didn't see direct correlation real time though
[09:21] {jakob} good morning
[09:21] {ese} morning
[09:21] {Threei}  jakob, ese :)
[09:21] {Threei}  selling picked up in a good while after those comments
[09:23] {dino} everybody already knew it anyway
[09:23] {Threei}  yeah, what's the news in some banks aving some exposure to eurobonds
[09:24] {dino} well it could not have been mf holding it all, :D
[09:24] {Threei}  lol
[09:27] {Threei}  no clear opening play yet
[09:28] {Threei}  FCX losing 38 before open took one right out of my hands
[09:29] {Threei}  Protest on the corner of Broadway and Wall St. successfully delayed opening bell
[09:30] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  38 break half lot
[09:30] {Threei}  if stays under .10
[09:30] {Threei}  1:1... wasn't easily obtainable
[09:31] {Threei}  aggressive entry only
[09:31] {Threei}  1:2... if you are in, get out
[09:31] {dino} thx vad +.14
[09:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .85 break
[09:31] {Threei}  grrr late
[09:32] {Threei}  welcome
[09:32] {Threei}  don't even think of using market orders for these plays
[09:32] {Threei}  sure way to get chewed up and spat out
[09:33] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .30 break
[09:33] {pragmatic} can't short
[09:33] {Threei}  1:1 who go it
[09:34] {dino} 2312 gap
[09:34] {dino} filled
[09:34] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  47 break half lot
[09:34] {Threei}  if stays under .10
[09:35] {Threei}  invalidated
[09:36] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  19 break
[09:36] {Threei}  if stays above .90
[09:36] {Threei}  target 1:2, 2 partials
[09:38] {Threei}  1:1
[09:38] {Threei}  play by the book
[09:38] {Threei}  half out, stop to .99
[09:40] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .70 break
[09:40] {Threei}  stop under .60
[09:40] {dino} out rimm +.13, ty vad
[09:40] {Threei}  :)
[09:41] {Threei}  RIMM stop to .05
[09:41] {Threei}  was 1 cent from 1:2
[09:43] {Threei}  FCX no go
[09:44] {dino} stop -.12
[09:44] {dino} dds sm l .55
[09:45] {nemo} unfrickin' believable
[09:45] {Threei}  what is?
[09:45] {nemo} I have to get fingerprinted
[09:45] {nemo} My local police department only does it on weekends AND charges $25 bucks
[09:45] {dino} big brother
[09:46] {Threei}  wow RMBS
[09:46] {nemo} yeah...prop trading
[09:46] {nemo} So, I ask him, "If I smack you will you do it for free?"
[09:47] {nemo} actually dino, the fingerprinting goes back to the 1934 financial services act
[09:48] {dino} 11657, 1218 gaps
[09:48] {ese} ya ..have been following RMBS...interesting
[09:48] {dino} they'll want dna sample next
[09:50] {ese} L RMBS .34
[09:51] {dino} chk sm l .09
[09:52] {Threei}  seems awfully high, ese...
[09:53] {dino} dci beats and raises?
[09:54] {Threei}  beats yes
[09:54] {Threei}  raises no
[09:54] {ese} ya..... were in small.....300shs
[09:54] {ese} sorry 400
[09:54] {dino} sm l .01
[09:55] {ese} was up 70 bucks there .....should have taken it
[09:56] {ese} out .53
[09:56] {ese} +.19
[09:56] {ese} got my 70 bucks
[09:59] {Threei}  *(US) NOV PHILADELPHIA FED: 3.6 V 9.0E
[09:59] {Threei}  wow
[10:02] {dino} opnt sm l ave .50
[10:03] {dino} dsw strong
[10:03] {Threei} Long Setup:  YOKU  .50 break half lot
[10:04] {Threei}  if holding .40
[10:06] {Threei}  1:1
[10:07] {ese} damn...missed that
[10:08] {Threei}  1:2, out
[10:08] {Threei}  nice morning so far, 1 stop
[10:08] {dino} dji green
[10:08] {RonS} got yoku .46 to .66 ese size thanks 3i
[10:08] {Threei}  :)
[10:10] {ese} nice one ron
[10:11] {cipher} sorry for my ignorance but what amount qualifies for ese size?
[10:12] {Threei}  think of really big shares, then multiply it by 2
[10:12] {Threei}  that'll be it :)
[10:12] {dino} out dci .66, +.65
[10:12] {cipher} got it, thx :-)
[10:13] {RonS} wtg dci...
[10:13] {cipher} wtg dino
[10:13] {dino} ty
[10:16] {cipher} l ibm .50
[10:16] {cipher} out .77 +.27
[10:16] {Threei}  wtg
[10:16] {cipher} wow
[10:18] {dino} gj
[10:18] {cipher} ty
[10:19] {dino} markets are trading gappy
[10:20] {dino} dds stop -.30
[10:21] {ese} I think thats a moniker that i'm never going to shake cipher.....was young and stupid about 4 years ago......10k to 15k was the norm.......i'm in preserve mode these days unless i've got a gut feeling about something
[10:22] {dino} -20 to flat to -26 in 30 seconds
[10:22] {dino} f'ing w/my hard stops
[10:22] {ese} speaking of that though DNDN....flash from the past is looking like a good take off candidate some day
[10:23] {cipher} thx for clearing it up for me ese :-)
[10:25] {ese} am loving dinos approach to things............don't tell him that though.......it's a secret between you and me
[10:25] {RonS} bromance, eh?
[10:26] {ese} well..........i didn't want to say anything.....but.........
[10:26] {dino} yuk, lol
[10:26] {Threei}  lol
[10:26] {cipher} i can relate to dinos style too
[10:26] {ese} definitely not..........
[10:27] {RonS} better than nemo's rabbmance...
[10:27] {dino} cipher i notice you play some of the capits and euphoric trades i post
[10:27] {RonS} :D
[10:28] {dino} ipgp sm l .00
[10:29] {dino} 07 green
[10:30] {dino} wtf -20 to +8 to -13 10 seconds
[10:30] {dino} seems the fear is about missing a rally
[10:30] {_nocki} Hello everyone, I am searching the site, if there is an acustic alarm, when a call is made.
[10:31] {Threei}  hi nocki
[10:31] {Threei}  not per se but if you are using mirc you can set it yourself
[10:31] {dino} welcome to the jungle nocki
[10:32] {_nocki} Thanks.
[10:33] {ese} indeed
[10:33] {dino} dds rinsed
[10:34] {ese} L RMBS .17
[10:34] {dino} chk to .49
[10:37] {dino} chk to .59
[10:37] {Threei}  watch SKW for long entry on pullback to 34
[10:37] {Threei}  SLW
[10:37] {dino} out chk .60, +.51
[10:38] {ese} nice one dino
[10:38] {Threei}  wtg
[10:39] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  34 break
[10:39] {dino} ty
[10:39] {Threei}  stop under .90
[10:41] {ese} vad give me an opinion on RMBS....... it's holding 8.....should be strong enough to take a run at the highs again
[10:41] {Threei}  trail stop to .94
[10:41] {ese} ?
[10:41] {Threei}  1:1
[10:42] {Threei}  really can't tell ese... this stock is seriously wounded
[10:42] {Threei}  this bounce is most likely nothing more than short covering
[10:42] {ese} hmmmmmmm ya true
[10:44] {Threei}  easy money has been made... for a while all calls become scalps only unless noted otherwise
[10:46] {ese} top to break even RMBS .18
[10:46] {ese} stop
[10:48] {ese} out  RMBS .34 +.17
[10:49] {dino} gj
[10:50] {ese} tks
[10:52] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .85 break
[10:53] {Threei}  just a scalp
[10:53] {Threei}  look to exit into spike over .90
[10:55] {Threei}  if holding still, stop .79
[10:57] {RonS} 3i, some ruminations from one of the most interesting bloggers i have found on the net: http://tinyurl.com/76kzkg9
[11:02] {Threei}  really good one
[11:02] {Threei}  thanks Ron
[11:03] {Threei}  ok, feels like short bounces time
[11:04] {Threei}  let's see if we can find short entry on FCX
[11:04] {Threei}  bounce above .80 should provide us with entry
[11:06] {Threei}  (US) House minority leader Pelosi (D): any Congressional supercommittee debt deal is not likely to be big or bold
[11:08] {Threei}  House minority leader Pelosi, whispering to aid: short the hell out of SPY couple days before the deadline
[11:08] {dino} dds sm l .98
[11:08] {dino} country would be better off w/the across the budget cuts
[11:09] {Threei}  including cutting out pelosi
[11:11] {dino} yes
[11:11] {Threei}  another short play: TZA long on pullback to or just under .50
[11:14] {Threei}  FCX bounce stiopped short just a few cents
[11:17] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .60 break half lot
[11:18] {Threei}  if stays above .50
[11:18] {Threei}  if loses it, will look for another trigger
[11:19] {Threei}  .55 break now
[11:19] {Threei}  if hoklding .45
[11:20] {Threei}  1:1
[11:25] {Threei}  one more by him I like, Ron: http://goo.gl/QgZSh
[11:26] {Threei}  FCX just won't bounce
[11:27] {dino} dgit sm l .16
[11:27] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .75 break
[11:27] {Threei}  if stays under .80
[11:28] {Threei}  very tight stop
[11:28] {Threei}  invalidated
[11:29] {Threei}  ugh... old idea of using .80 was right
[11:29] {Threei}  should have stayed with it
[11:29] {Threei}  doesn't matter much though, llittle scalps anyway
[11:33] {RonS} 3i, when have time pm...
[11:41] {ese} am outta here.....cya tomorrow
[11:41] {RonS} cya ese
[11:41] {Threei}  take care ese
[11:42] {Threei}  let the games begin
[11:42] {Threei}  (US) House Speaker Boehner: Not expecting Democrats to support enough spending cuts
[11:42] {Threei}  - Supercommittee member Senator Murray (D): Reiterates Republicans must still compromise on revenue (new taxes).
[11:43] {dino} i don't get it, what is so hard about a 2% across the board cut
[11:45] {RonS} come on dino, it's all about the election...dems want cover by raising taxes...if repubs agree they cannot use the issue
[11:48] {Threei} Long Setup:  TNA  45 break half lot
[11:48] {Threei}  stop under .90
[11:48] {Threei}  target 1:2, 2 partials
[11:49] {Threei}  no go
[11:49] {RonS} long standing dem hat trick:  "gee, repubs, if you just become dems for just this time, we won't criticize you and call you obstuctionist"...repeat ad nauseum
[11:50] {Threei}  morning was nice and easy... now we are locked in a range
[11:56] {thomcbell} klac no longer considering Italian bailout
[11:56] {Threei}  lol
[11:56] {Threei}  iin
[11:56] {Threei}  wrong window, never mind
[12:06] {Threei}  FCX Union strikes will impact Q4 results
[12:06] {Threei}  feels to me, selling is about to resume for real
[12:07] {Threei}  and FCX won't be sopared
[12:07] {Threei}  spared
[12:07] {Threei}  back to my earlier TZA/FCX idea
[12:08] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .40 break
[12:08] {Threei}  if stays under .50
[12:08] {Threei}  not a scalp
[12:09] {Threei}  this one should give more
[12:09] {Threei}  1:3 target
[12:09] {Threei}  3 partials
[12:12] {Threei}  1:1
[12:12] {Threei}  play by the book
[12:12] {Threei}  partial, trail
[12:13] {Threei}  1:2
[12:13] {Threei}  today is a perfect reward for the teeth-pulling of last few days
[12:13] {Threei}  things just work
[12:14] {Threei}  stop for the last piece is at .35 now
[12:17] {dino} ipgp sm l .55
[12:17] {Threei}  done with FCX
[12:26] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .90 break
[12:26] {Threei}  half lot
[12:26] {dino} ipgp stop -.17
[12:26] {Threei}  if stays above .80
[12:27] {Threei}  valid
[12:29] {Threei}  not a scalp either
[12:29] {Threei}  1:1
[12:29] {Threei}  half out .05
[12:29] {Threei}  stop to .88
[12:30] {Threei}  1:2
[12:30] {Threei}  out .15
[12:31] {Threei}  too soon
[12:31] {Threei}  but astill, no complaining
[12:31] {Threei}  yesterday at the close:
[12:31] {Threei}  16:00] {Threei} looking forward to tomorrow's trading
[12:31] {Threei}  for a good reason, eh?
[12:32] {dino} 1218
[12:33] {Threei}  wow
[12:33] {Threei}  may I have my TZA and FCX back?
[12:33] {dino} filleed
[12:33] {dino} filled
[12:34] {Threei}  see how mucxh easier trading became as soon as direction got determined
[12:35] {thomcbell} yy
[12:37] {Threei}  interesting that this selling that has total poanic look and feel happens with no news
[12:42] {dino} -4% 2 days
[12:50] {dino} chk l .80
[13:02] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .85 break
[13:02] {Threei}  half lot
[13:03] {Threei}  1:1
[13:07] {Threei}  (IT) Italy PM Monti and German Chancellor Merkel said to be holding conference call, discussed situation in the euro zone
[13:07] {Threei}  oh good
[13:07] {Threei}  saviors to the rescue
[13:08] {Threei}  chip and dale
[13:08] {Threei}  what do you know... Gingrich takes solid lead over Romney
[13:09] {Threei}  - Leaders agreed that debt measures must be accellerated, Merkel and Sarkozy offered Monti their full support.
[13:09] {Threei}  they are not getting tired of making empty sounds... amazing
[13:10] {RonS} ...sent him a jock strap?...
[13:10] {Threei}  lol
[13:24] {Threei}  OK you guys are too quiet today, considering the performance
[13:25] {Threei}  I am not talking to you lot anymore... sitting in the corner, minding my own business
[13:33] {Threei}  http://pointsandfigures.com/2011/11/17/european-bond-yields-upno-inflation-yet/
[13:41] {dino}  bks spike
[14:05] {dino} tdg sm l .50
[14:16] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  32 break
[14:17] {Threei}  1:1
[14:18] {dino} 11657
[14:26] {Threei} Short Setup: FCX  .20 break
[14:26] {Threei}  .70 sorry
[14:26] {Threei}  stop above .80
[14:31] {Threei}  no go
[14:31] {Threei}  coming to a well one too many times? :)
[14:40] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .30 break
[14:40] {Threei}  invalidated
[14:44] {Threei}  reversal into eod or continuation down?
[14:46] {RonS} small recovery...
[14:46] {dino} reversal, big time 100+ pts
[14:51] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .80 break
[14:51] {Threei}  cancel that
[14:54] {Threei}  OK, valid again
[14:54] {Threei}  .80 break
[14:55] {Threei}  if stays above .65
[14:57] {Threei}  changing to .65 break
[14:57] {Threei}  .55 stop
[14:58] {Threei}  some unusual resistance here
[14:59] {Threei}  almost like a lid kept in place artificially
[14:59] {Threei}  once lifted should explode
[14:59] {Threei}  1:1
[15:03] {Threei}  be back in 15 min
[15:04] {dino} away drop
[15:13] {RonS} qotd:  Hey everyone, let's all step on a dog's tail to name our websites! #yelp
[15:14] {RonS} lol...Sample Yelp Review: "I found the Chalupa to be dry and overcooked, the Diet Mountain Dew was pedestrian at best
[15:19] {Threei}  lol
[15:22] {dino}  dgit to .39
[15:24] {dino} out .40, +.23
[15:26] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  37 break
[15:29] {Threei}  invalidated
[15:33] {dino} back in ten
[15:36] {Threei}  a litle buit jellyfishy closing
[15:36] {Threei}  can't see direction
[15:36] {Threei}  sin to complain really, great trading day
[15:41] {Threei}  new low
[15:53] {dino} out tdg .45, +.95
[15:54] {dino} too soon
[15:55] {Threei}  Ok guys, thank you all
[15:55] {Threei}  have a great evening, see you tomorrow
[15:59] {dino} gn all



Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Nov 16 2011

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Not an easy day - win some, lose some, as market couldn't decide what to do. Reversal to the downside provided us with some plays, and finished slightly positive, but we need market to determine direction to provide us with real opportunities. Luckily it seems to do just that.


  Session Time: Wed Nov 16 00:00:00 2011
[09:04] {dino} gm all
[09:05] {Threei}  morning dino
[09:06] {swill} morning
[09:07] {Threei}  swill :)
[09:12] {Threei}  oh good
[09:13] {Threei}  (EU) EU Commissioner Barnier: Working on possible tools to provide resolution to current Euro crisis; To be presented in the coming weeks
[09:13] {Threei}  finally
[09:13] {Threei}  what's got into RIMM?
[09:14] {Threei}  ah, GS upgrade
[09:14] {Threei}  with target 18, lol
[09:15] {Threei}  *(US) OCT INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION: 0.7% V 0.4%E
[09:20] {Threei}  first feel is, this number is not going to produce much enthusiasm, and will be used to sell ionto
[09:22] {Threei}  (EU) Ireland PM Kenny: EFSF leverage plan has not convinced markets- Insists that Greece and Ireland are headed in totally different directions
[09:24] {jakob} good morning
[09:24] {Threei}  jakob :)
[09:26] {Threei}  FCX
[09:27] {Threei}  39 is support during poremarket
[09:27] {Threei}  premarket
[09:27] {Threei}  breakdown, half lot short
[09:27] {Threei}  stop above .15 - .20
[09:27] {Threei}  risky trade
[09:32] {Threei}  1:1
[09:35] {Threei} Long Setup:  LVS  .20 break
[09:35] {Threei}  if stays above .10
[09:36] {Threei}  1:1trail stop to .14
[09:37] {Threei}  1:1
[09:37] {dino} cov fcx .90, +.10
[09:37] {Threei}  1:2
[09:37] {Threei}  out in full here
[09:37] {Threei}  easy money
[09:38] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  39 break
[09:38] {Threei}  still half lot for this one
[09:38] {Threei}  if stays above .90
[09:39] {Threei}  target 1:2, 2 partials
[09:39] {Threei}  1:1
[09:40] {Threei}  half out, stop to .98
[09:40] {Threei}  play by the book
[09:40] {Threei}  no creativity on this kind of plays, cookie-cutter
[09:40] {Threei}  (NV) Netherlands Fin Min: Non-EU contries want to invest in EFSF facility via the IMF
[09:40] {Threei}  Netherlands Fin Min is delirious
[09:41] {Threei}  1:2, over and out
[09:43] {Threei}  ese... missed two and half winning plays
[09:43] {ese} rats
[09:43] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .35 break
[09:43] {Threei}  if stays under .45
[09:45] {dino} showing lots of green stocks
[09:48] {Threei}  .41 stop now, was too close to 1:1
[09:48] {Threei}  out
[09:50] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .10 break
[09:51] {Threei}  if stays above 35
[09:54] {Threei}  market is hesitant here
[09:55] {Threei}  no go SLW
[09:55] {Threei} Long Setup:  RIMM  .90 break
[09:55] {Threei}  if holding above .80
[09:58] {Threei}  (EU) ECB said to be buying almost no other sovereign debt besides Spanish and Italian bonds - financial presss
[09:59] {Threei}  no need? or no money?
[09:59] {dino} no money, no presses
[09:59] {dino} yet
[10:00] {Threei}  hood NAHB number
[10:00] {Threei}  20 vs 18
[10:00] {dino} opnt sm l .50
[10:02] {Threei}  no go RIMM
[10:02] {Threei}  market sharp drop
[10:03] {Threei}  let's see if we can get TZA entry
[10:03] {Threei}  pullback under .70
[10:04] {Threei}  and entry on recross if holding .60
[10:07] {Threei}  not pulling back
[10:09] {dino} che sm l .00 break gappy
[10:09] {Threei} Long Setup:  FAZ  43.05 break
[10:10] {Threei}  TZA touched .69 and crossed .70, just as needed... happend way too fast for a call
[10:10] {Threei}  if you caught it, you got nice bounce
[10:12] {dino} dds sm l .01
[10:12] {dino} che stop -.30
[10:14] {Threei}  ok FAZ
[10:14] {Threei}  let's see what you can do
[10:15] {Threei}  not much eh...
[10:16] {patience} good morning
[10:16] {Threei}  patience :)
[10:17] {Threei}  watching TZA again, but want it lower this time
[10:17] {Threei}  (EU) Lithuania's Snoras bank said to be insolvent and in need of govt capital infusion; Lithuania will NOTneed to request IMF aid for this bank - financial press
[10:18] {Threei}  amazing how it became understood by default that every failed bank must have govt help
[10:19] {Threei} Long Setup:  TZA  .60 break
[10:19] {Threei}  stop under .50
[10:21] {Threei}  very chaotic morning
[10:22] {Threei}  1:1
[10:23] {dino} yes
[10:24] {Threei}  1:2, out
[10:28] {thomcbell} sndk and mu very strong
[10:28] {thomcbell} need market cooperation
[10:28] {thomcbell} from here
[10:30] {Threei}  *(US) DOE CRUDE: -1.06M V -1ME; GASOLINE: +1.0M V -1ME; DISTILLATE: -2.14M V -3ME;
[10:32] {Threei}  (US) Natural gas lines have exploded in Souteastern Ohio - local press- The Athens County Sheriff's Department reports that there may be multiple gas line explosions in southeast Ohio near Glouster.
[10:38] {Threei} Short Setup: GME  .75 break
[10:38] {Threei}  if stays under .85
[10:42] {Threei}  stop to .81
[10:42] {Threei}  thing is so slow, I was tempted to just cover it under .70
[10:42] {RonS} joyg pop
[10:42] {swill} unfortunatly must drive.  back soon
[10:42] {Threei}  was probably the right way to go
[10:43] {Threei}  JOYG takeover rumors
[10:46] {RonS} hearing fcx ceo on cnbc now
[10:46] {Threei}  yeah
[10:46] {cipher} .50 joyg short thx!
[10:46] {dino}  gj
[10:46] {Threei}  nice cipher
[10:47] {cipher} +.78 ibm
[10:47] {dino} sweet
[10:47] {cipher} sorry too many pos to post entry
[10:47] {cipher} need another monitor :-)
[10:48] {Threei}  GME 1:1
[10:48] {dino} dds to .40
[10:48] {cipher} gme nice vad
[10:48] {Threei}  out in full
[10:48] {cipher} me too
[10:48] {Threei}  not hanging around this one
[10:49] {cipher} +.11
[10:49] {dino} out dds .39
[10:50] {Threei} Short Setup: LVS  .60 break
[10:51] {Threei}  stop .67
[10:51] {Threei}  out
[10:55] {dino} opnt to .60
[10:58] {dino} out +.10
[11:00] {RonS} joyg v sm s .00
[11:02] {RonS} out -.20
[11:03] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  .05
[11:03] {Threei}  stop under .95
[11:04] {Threei}  spiked a bit too sharply, let's trail to .99
[11:07] {Threei}  starting to think, taking scakps before even 1:1 is the way to go today, lol
[11:08] {dino} igpg sm l .54
[11:09] {RonS} ?
[11:10] {Threei} Short Setup: AGP  .40 break
[11:10] {Threei}  half lot
[11:11] {Threei}  stop .55, target .10
[11:11] {pragmatic} hmm, not shortable
[11:11] {cipher} not shortable here too
[11:11] {Threei}  ok... moving on
[11:13] {Threei} Short Setup: WNR  .95
[11:13] {Threei}  if stays under .005
[11:14] {Threei}  .05
[11:16] {Threei}  invalidated
[11:16] {dino} these are pipeline issues/changeswnr, cvi, hfc, etc
[11:17] {Threei}  Canadian pipeline?
[11:17] {dino} no
[11:17] {Threei}  ok... 'cause we are this close to tell you guys off and send our oil to China :)
[11:22] {dino} i know, and obama is an idiot for stalling
[11:22] {dino} same w/nat gas bill vote today, you watch them kill it
[11:22] {RonS} mountie monti...if mario was rmcp...
[11:23] {Threei}  http://www.thestreet.com/story/11312866/1/cramer-this-natgas-act-wont-pass.html
[11:24] {dino} coo to .47
[11:24] {dino} out +2.47
[11:24] {dino} from yesterday
[11:24] {Threei}  wtg
[11:26] {dino} ty
[11:26] {Threei}  lol, read this
[11:26] {Threei}  (GR) International Institute of Finance (IIF)'s Dallara: Evaluating two options on Greece swap deal; bondholders should keep net present value loss contained in order to maintain voluntary nature
[11:26] {Threei}  bondholders are presented with two options parctically: lose voluntarily or involuntarily
[11:27] {Threei}  put a gun to one's temple and tell him: I am going to pull the trigger in any case, but you have a choice: ask me to do it or don't
[11:27] {dino} lol
[11:28] {Threei}  now, the last line of this one deserves a minute of solemn silence
[11:28] {Threei}  US) Fed's Lacker: Concerned that extraordinary policies have politicized the Fed, political conflicts threaten monetary policy and Fed independence
[11:28] {Threei}  - Fed may need to restrict itself to only holding US Treasuries [vs MBS].
[11:28] {Threei}  - Concerned that giving aid to financial firms created moral hazard expectation of future rescues.
[11:29] {Threei}  haleluja... wasn't it major concern of anyone with brain when they just began those "rescues"?
[11:30] {Threei}  incredible... any decision-maker in this country looks beyonf this very day?
[11:31] {Threei}  and finally, if you want a last dose of optimism for this morning:
[11:31] {Threei}  (EU) EU's Juncker: Debt levels in Germany are concerning, has higher levels than Spain but it is not being discussed - newspaper interview
[11:31] {RonS} ng rippin
[11:32] {dino} situation starting to sound like "when money dies"
[11:32] {Threei}  you know guys
[11:32] {Threei}  less and less do I believe in EU printing
[11:33] {Threei}  morfe and more looks to me like they'll have to let single currency collapse
[11:33] {RonS} incy halt
[11:33] {Threei}  kicking and screaming of course, but they won't be able to pull it off
[11:33] {dino} the collapse will occur when greece says f' it, and defaults
[11:34] {dino} because then the other piigs will follow
[11:34] {Threei}  or Italy... or Spain... or a few smaller ones start demanding similar treatment to Greece
[11:34] {Threei}  there are few scenarios that can lead to it
[11:34] {_jbb2011} incy to resume 5:45pm
[11:35] {Threei}  but I just can't see the unity necessary to put the grand "print our way out of it" plan together
[11:35] {Threei}  you know ICY news, right?
[11:36] {Threei}  INCY
[11:36] {Threei}  or want me to post?
[11:36] {_jbb2011} meant 1145am ET
[11:36] {dino} my gut says the printing happens first, but in any case default occurs
[11:36] {Threei}  short version:
[11:36] {Threei}  Incyte Corporation FDA approves Jakafi (ruxolitinib) in treatment for bone marrow disease (myelofibrosis)
[11:36] {Threei}  yes, 11:45, jbb, ty
[11:37] {Threei}  AGP collapse
[11:37] {Threei}  my gut disagrees dino :)
[11:38] {Threei}  or to be exact, it says:
[11:38] {Threei}  they'll try, they'll do small portion of it,
[11:38] {Threei}  it won't be enough,
[11:38] {Threei}  and when it comes to prnting a lot, they'll fail
[11:38] {RonS} uh oh...incy 30 mil sh short...12% of float...this is gonna be fun...
[11:38] {Threei}  momo candidate?
[11:39] {dino} i feel they start printing first, but in the end it does not matter
[11:39] {Threei}  the scale of debt is just too great
[11:40] {Threei}  they need anywhere from 4 to 6 T to solve it all
[11:40] {Threei}  no way they can pull it off
[11:40] {dino} i know, the 1t talk is a joke
[11:40] {Threei}  yup... "instilling confidence" silly talk
[11:44] {Threei}  INCY trading
[11:47] {Threei}  ABIO
[11:48] {Threei}  small bios are hot
[11:48] {Threei}  ABIO Gencaro Demonstrated 74% Risk Reduction for New Onset Atrial Fibrillation in Heart Failure Patients with Genotype Believed to Be Found in Nearly 50% of Population
[11:48] {Threei}  if you want to try and catch INCY bounce, let it drop to about 13.30
[11:49] {Threei}  small shares
[11:49] {Threei}  Italian yield above 7% again
[11:56] {Threei}  here comes INCY
[11:56] {Threei}  one more leg down
[12:18] {dino} csh sm l .34 thin
[12:22] {Threei} Long Setup:  SLW  .30 break
[12:22] {Threei}  just a scalp
[12:30] {RonS} wow rmbs
[12:30] {Threei}  well, RMBS
[12:31] {Threei}  remember that antitrust trial verdict expected for, umm, forever
[12:31] {Threei}  should be anounced today
[12:31] {RonS} ah so...
[12:31] {Threei}  ABIO halt, curcuit breaker
[12:31] {Threei}  anyone found a play in it?
[12:31] {Threei}  was about a dollar lower when mentioned
[12:34] {thomcbell} Vad - this action is so artificial no?
[12:34] {Threei}  in what?
[12:34] {Threei}  out SLW with scalp
[12:34] {Threei}  1:1
[12:37] {thomcbell} indexes
[12:37] {Threei}  well... I'd put it this way:
[12:37] {Threei}  wow SLW, 1:2
[12:37] {Threei}  just when i decide to limit myself to scalp
[12:37] {Threei}  sorry, got distracted
[12:38] {dino} tbell, if it happens it is real bro
[12:38] {Threei}  it feels artificial in a sense that thewre is no natural flow to it
[12:38] {Threei}  no this normal "bulls, bears, who wins"
[12:38] {Threei}  and the reason there is no such flow is:
[12:39] {Threei}  neither side is convinced,
[12:39] {Threei}  neither wants to committ
[12:39] {thomcbell} god forbid there was resolution - 1450 spx
[12:39] {Threei}  everyone feels the earth is very shaky under their feet,
[12:39] {Threei}  bears know they will get pummeled if some kind of ephemeric solution is offered,
[12:40] {Threei}  no matter how ephemeric it is - immediate reation will be huge
[12:40] {Threei}  bulls know they will get destroyed if something bad happenes,
[12:40] {Threei}  and there are so many things that can go wrong, no way to tell which one of them hapens first
[12:41] {Threei}  so it's not tgrading - it's testing waters,
[12:41] {Threei}  dipping one's toe, ready to jump out on a moment notice
[12:41] {Threei}  thus these low volumes,
[12:41] {Threei}  thus these sharp and sudden reversals
[12:42] {Threei}  follow my drift?
[12:42] {Threei}  that's why we are staying so nimble
[12:42] {Threei}  grabbing our little 10 cets here, 20 cents there
[12:42] {Threei}  or they grab them from us
[12:43] {Threei}  the moment some kind of resolution comes, whichever way it is - trading will change drastically
[12:43] {Threei}  now... who played that SLW break?
[12:44] {swill} I got a scalp
[12:44] {Threei}  :)
[12:44] {swill} :)
[12:45] {RonS} 3i is larisa ok?
[12:46] {Threei}  she mentioned vacation in Mexico coming, but I haven't marked the dates
[12:46] {Threei}  I assume that's where she is
[12:46] {RonS} k
[12:46] {Threei}  no one tells me anything
[12:47] {Threei}  I am so frustrated about this - imagine, Berlusconi had aucdacity not to invite me to his good buy bunga bunga party
[12:47] {Threei}  good bye too
[12:56] {Threei}  http://goo.gl/WL47t
[12:56] {Threei}  want to have it in writing
[13:02] {Threei}  what, did I scare the living daylight out of you?
[13:02] {Threei}  someone breathe please
[13:03] {RonS} good .
[13:04] {Threei}  ok... Ron breathes... I know dino does too - he doesn';t give a flying sneeze about what transpires, beyond passing interest
[13:04] {Threei}  oh and btw dino, on a matter of greater interest:
[13:05] {Threei}  Two and half men ratings drop dramatically
[13:05] {Threei}  RMBS spike again
[13:05] {Threei}  no verdict yet on wires
[13:05] {swill} I will read later but scalpers win
[13:05] {Threei}  lol
[13:06] {dino} its not as good w/o charlie
[13:06] {Threei}  not as good?
[13:06] {Threei}  man, you are polite one
[13:06] {Threei}  it's absolute cr*p
[13:07] {Threei}  ONTY
[13:07] {dino} lol
[13:07] {Threei}  Wedbush gave it 31 target
[13:07] {dino} now modern family is funny
[13:08] {Threei}  DNDN halt
[13:08] {Threei}  what's with small bios today
[13:11] {Threei} Short Setup: SLW  .20 break
[13:11] {Threei}  if dtays under .30
[13:12] {Threei}  just a scalp
[13:21] {dino} 125.86 pivot
[13:23] {RonS} rmbs halt news
[13:23] {Threei}  both, RBMS and MU
[13:23] {Threei}  decision is expected to be read at 2
[13:31] {Threei} Long Setup:  FCX  39 break
[13:32] {Threei}  stop under .90
[13:34] {dino} out half ipgp +.28
[13:34] {Threei}  nice
[13:35] {dino} thx
[13:38] {dino} wall at .84
[13:38] {dino} through
06[13:40] * Threei kicks FCX in the rear
[13:43] {Threei}  that's a lot of distribution on FCX at this level
[13:44] {Threei}  won't move with market
[13:44] {Threei}  maybe let's scratch it
[13:44] {Threei}  or at least trail to .94
[13:46] {dino} ipgp to .03
[13:48] {dino} to .09
[13:51] {dino} stop, slipped to .06, +.52
[13:52] {Threei}  next region of tesions is being outlined:
[13:52] {Threei}  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-16/u-s-marines-to-be-stationed-in-australia-under-obama-gillard-defense-pact.html
[13:52] {RonS} ...lock up the women...
[13:53] {dino} csh to b/e, stuck
[13:54] {dino} out
[13:54] {Threei}  morning was so active and readable, then everything turned into toal jellyfish
[13:54] {Threei}  where is ese, I want hin to read this article
[13:55] {Threei}  and tell us how president wants to demilitarize USA
[13:55] {RonS} lol
[13:56] {RonS} oh but the spell of O is strong...besides everyone know that bush is making him do it
[13:57] {dino} roflol, and he still blames "w" for everything
[13:57] {RonS} ...and the weak, lazy populace...like he has ever has a real job
[13:57] {RonS} had
[13:58] {dino} wow, community organizer and 1 term voter of "present"
[14:00] {swill} back soon
[14:02] {dino} whers that rmbs verdict
[14:02] {Threei}  Rambus Inc Hearing JP Morgan comments on pending lawsuit ruling (timing uncertain)- A win over $2B will increase stock price to as high as $50/shr depending on the size of the verdict, while a verdict below $2B could send the stock lower. - Firm recommends buying RMBS under $10 if it loses the case.
[14:03] {RonS} it's a court, not a track race start...
[14:03] {RonS} :D
[14:03] {dino} so 1.99 b kills it but 2.1 b doubles it
[14:03] {Threei}  see? value added
[14:03] {dino} value added, lol
[14:03] {RonS} lol
[14:08] {dino} out chk .99, +.24
[14:14] {RonS} California jury rejects Rambus $RMBS price-fixing claims against Hynix, Micron $MU
[14:15] {Threei}  RMBS *JURY REJECTS PRICE FIXING CLAIMS GAINST HYNIX AND MICRON; JURY AWARDS NO DAMAGES TO RMBS (18.37, +0.33, 1.83%) (related 000660.KS MU 660.KS )
[14:15] {Threei}  poor RMBS
[14:15] {Threei}  is this all? no more appeals?
[14:15] {Threei}  this case existed for alost as long as RMBS, lol
[14:23] {dino} wow
[14:34] {RonS} ...had big salad and crackers for lunch...was still hungry and bummin out...then bamm...remembered have halloween candy bars...prob solved
[14:35] {Threei}  lol
[14:36] {dino} lol, eating a snickers from halloween myself
[14:40] {patience} ok, you east coat people...hawaiin air has just started jfk to honolulu direct flights, opening special is $212     I want to go.....
[14:40] {patience} coast
[14:40] {RonS} wow...need a ticket like that
[14:41] {patience} it is cold in victoria
[14:41] {RonS} 40 here and windy
[14:43] {RonS} get this...wife's aunt lives in san marino ca, old money rich...the poor cities bus in kids for halloween...they had 800 kids that came in groups of 20...
[14:44] {patience} sends the wrong message
[14:46] {RonS} dsw at 200 sma -3.37
[14:49] {Threei}  RMBS reviewing options for appeal
[14:49] {Threei}  it'll never end
[14:51] {dino} any news dsw?
[14:51] {RonS} ...epa outlaws shoes?
[14:52] {dino} lol, maybe shoe laces
[14:53] {dino} option ex games perhaps
[14:54] {RonS} dammit...unreal...from bloomberg:  U.S. stocks pared losses amid speculation the Federal Reserve may help the European Central Bank fight the region’s debt crisis.
[14:55] {dino} just great, we'll get stuck w/worthless debt
[14:55] {swill} back for the day. who's going to ware that
[14:58] {Threei}  no way
[14:58] {Threei}  not going to happen
[14:58] {Threei}  OWS raging on the streets is nothing comparing to what is going to happlen is they try to pull it off
[15:00] {dino} dsw sm l .11, stop lod
[15:02] {Threei}  I don't see resumption time for RMBS
[15:02] {dino} nor i
[15:12] {Threei} Short Setup: USO  .50 break
[15:13] {Threei}  stop above .60, target 1:2
[15:22] {Threei}  1:1 close enough for a first partial
[15:25] {Threei}  scalpers of course are out
06[15:25] * Threei slants at swill
[15:26] {swill} I was more happy about the past.  the broker said not on th e list
[15:30] {dino} going for 1239 gap
[15:30] {RonS} downside break in the triangle everyone has been talking about
[15:32] {Threei}  omn increasing volume too
[15:33] {dino} filled
[15:34] {Threei}  no news for this selloff
[15:34] {Threei}  quite imporessive
[15:34] {Threei}  USO 1:2
[15:34] {Threei}  out
[15:35] {thomcbell}     Fitch comments pushing mkts lower.... Fitch issues report on Eurozone contagion; US banks have manageable exposure but could be affected - U.S. banks have manageable direct exposures to the stressed European markets (Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal and Spain), but further contagion poses a serious risk, - Fitch believes that unless the Eurozone debt cris
[15:36] {Threei}  I saw that one... didn't think it was causing selling
[15:37] {dino} 11894, 2312 next
[15:37] {dino} they say the same junk every day
[15:40] {Threei}  rofl
[15:40] {Threei}  Congress will hold 4pm conference call to discuss trading strategies around the super-committee deadline
[15:40] {dino} lol
[15:41] {dino} opnt l .56
[15:45] {dino} fio drop
[15:46] {Threei}  RMBS
[15:46] {Threei}  mama
[15:46] {dino} wow
[15:47] {dino} again tho, thx for the halt, no chance short or getting out
[15:48] {Threei}  no kidding
[15:51] {thomcbell} curious strength MU earlier
[15:51] {thomcbell} i am very skeptical today
[15:52] {Threei}  today?
[15:52] {Threei}  nemo will be proud of you only when you drop this kind of elaborations
[15:52] {thomcbell} haha
[15:53] {Threei}  as if yesterday presented any reasons for different outloook :)
[15:53] {thomcbell} nice close - lol
[15:54] {Threei}  we may get a better market...
[15:54] {dino} 11894 just missed
[15:54] {Threei}  hopefully direction finbally appears
[15:55] {dino} what we've been doing is filling gaps every few days
[15:56] {patience} down $100 bucks today, but only one trade....need some common sense back in the market
[15:56] {Threei}  common sense?
[15:56] {dino} up 600 but it was tough
[15:56] {Threei}  common sense isn't
[15:58] {Threei}  I like the way market sold off
[15:58] {Threei}  decisively
[15:58] {dino} c'mon fill those gaps
[15:59] {Threei}  look at SPY daily
[15:59] {Threei}  no support till 120
[15:59] {dino} 11894 filled
[16:00] {dino} 2312 left, at open my guess
[16:00] {Threei}  looking forward to tomorrow's trading
[16:00] {Threei}  thank you all, have a good evening
[16:00] {Threei}  see you tomorrow
[16:00] {thomcbell} thanks guys
[16:00] {thomcbell} good night
[16:00] {swill} thank you. night
[16:01] {dino} gaps down 11657, 2400, 1254 , 1215
[16:01] {dino} 2312
[16:01] {patience} ty all
[16:02] {dino} ntap blood